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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Herman Cain on November 06, 2023, 06:47:30 PM
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Oakland in a dog fight with Buckeyes first half
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Badgers look good.
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Badgers offense is tight
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Its Arkansas state lol chill
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Badgers up 15 at half scoring 56 with no 3-pointers
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Princeton Beats Rutgers
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Badgers up 25 and starting to rain 3’s. Look like the early Big Ten favorite
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James Madison up 4 on Mich St.
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James Madison up 4 on Mich St.
Tom Izzo might need to jack off on phone calls if he loses this game
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Tom Izzo might need to jack off on phone calls if he loses this game
They miss Joey badly
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They miss Joey badly
They’re so used to playing around a guy falling down, I can see why they’ll have an adjustment period
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They’re so used to playing around a guy falling down, I can see why they’ll have an adjustment period
Great analysis
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Badgers look good.
They're going to kick MU's butt
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They're going to kick MU's butt
I marked that as an “L”. Shaka can’t beat Big Ten teams
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I marked that as an “L”. Shaka can’t beat Big Ten teams
So true
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Wisconsin hits the century mark with 3 plus minutes left. Shooting 66% from the field.
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Wisconsin hits the century mark with 3 plus minutes left. Shooting 66% from the field.
Crown them. No point showing up 12/9
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Crown them. No point showing up 12/9
We're getting our a$$e$ kicked
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Refa screwing over JMU.
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Wisconsin hits the century mark with 3 plus minutes left. Shooting 66% from the field.
Extend Gard!
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It is a Gard's game.
(let's see how many long time posters get that one)
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Tyson Walker has saved Mich St. tonight. Heck of a ballplayer.
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Why are u all talking about UW ?
Who gives a $hit ?
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JMU/Mich St. going to overtime.
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Wisconsin hits the century mark with 3 plus minutes left. Shooting 66% from the field.
Did Fickell accidentally install the high flying offense with the basketball team?
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Wisconsin hits the century mark with 3 plus minutes left. Shooting 66% from the field.
Wisky gave up 76 to Arkansas St.?!?! :o
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Oh......yes!!!! JMU!!!
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Oh......yes!!!! JMU!!!
MSU missing Joey
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MSU missing Joey
Old news
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Why are u all talking about UW ?
Who gives a $hit ?
Because MU sucks, didn't cover
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Sparty 1-21 from 3 in their loss. Joey should have stuck around.
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MSU missing Joey
BAM!!!
Herman,
James Madison waa listed at 5'4 but was really 5'3. :)
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James Madison hadn't beaten a top 25 team since 1992. Wow.... just wow.
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Izzo was 74-0 at home in November.
First home loss ever in November 😂
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Most amazing thing I learned tonight - St Mary's played Stanislaus State, who are the Warriors...
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Sparty 1-21 from 3 in their loss. Joey should have stuck around.
Tough loss for MSU but at least Sparty is better in football................... oh wait, never mind.
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This USC team as usual has some serious athletes.
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James Madison hadn't beaten a top 25 team since 1992. Wow.... just wow.
Love ...
Izzo was 74-0 at home in November.
First home loss even in November 😂
... it!
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The Tommies lost by 5 at Cal
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James Madison hadn't beaten a top 25 team since 1992. Wow.... just wow.
And even then, it was a No. 19 Cal team (with Jason Kidd). They've never beaten a team in the top 18 - much less the top five.
Fantastic win for JMU.
And this is why even though I wanted to to see MU beat the spread, I'll "settle" for a 22 point win.
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Have to think cell phones and social media are what caused Michigan State to lose last night.
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In addition to the the Izzo-first-ever-home-loss-in-November stat, here's some fun facts from Yahoo Sports:
++ Entering Monday, JMU was 1-42 all-time vs. ranked opponents.
++ MSU shot 1-for-20 from behind the arc.
++ Michigan State is the first top-5 team to lose its opener against an unranked opponent since 2005. In '05 it also was Sparty with that distinction; they lost to Hawaii.
++ Family ties... JMU assistant coach Matt Bucklin is Izzo's nephew. Thanksgiving could get awkward.
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Video of the Purdue-Samford center tip. LOL
https://sports.yahoo.com/purdue-basketball-vs-samford-zach-003141206.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
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Video of the Purdue-Samford center tip. LOL
https://sports.yahoo.com/purdue-basketball-vs-samford-zach-003141206.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
So instead of making a futile attempt at winning the jump, they went for lolz. I think i respect it
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Just saw Bucky's schedule over the next 8 games. Absolutely brutal. #9 Tennessee, #5 Marquette, Virginia, West Virginia, #5 Michigan St, #12 Arizona. Honestly this is what a non conference schedule should look like.
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Just saw Bucky's schedule over the next 8 games. Absolutely brutal. #9 Tennessee, #5 Marquette, Virginia, West Virginia, #5 Michigan St, #12 Arizona. Honestly this is what a non conference schedule should look like.
I think they win all 6
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I think they win all 6
Crown Em
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Just saw Bucky's schedule over the next 8 games. Absolutely brutal. #9 Tennessee, #5 Marquette, Virginia, West Virginia, #5 Michigan St, #12 Arizona. Honestly this is what a non conference schedule should look like.
*Western Illinois
Will be interested to see how they do with Providence next week.
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Crown them. No point showing up 12/9
This is unquestionably true. In fact, I can say with certainty Marquette will not show up to play Wisconsin on 12/9.
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Video of the Purdue-Samford center tip. LOL
https://sports.yahoo.com/purdue-basketball-vs-samford-zach-003141206.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
1957 NCAA Championship game, 5'11 Tommy Kearns was sent out to jump center against Wilt Chamberlain by his coach, Frank McGuire.
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This is unquestionably true. In fact, I can say with certainty Marquette will not show up to play Wisconsin on 12/9.
If we could trick Shaka into playing the Wisconsin game (big IF), I'd be very happy to have Bucky try and go up and down the court with MU. I'd roll the dice on a positive outcome if both teams are in the 80s.
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This is unquestionably true. In fact, I can say with certainty Marquette will not show up to play Wisconsin on 12/9.
ND is so bad we probably could beat them at Fiserv if our starters accidentally went to Madison that day.
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I think they win all 6
After which of the 6 wins does Kon switch his verbal?
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After which of the 6 wins does Kon switch his verbal?
I’m pretty sure he’s the one Duke is losing now that his test scores match Madison’s requirements
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I’m pretty sure he’s the one Duke is losing now that his test scores match Madison’s requirements
More like Kon's losing Duke, aina?
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Hoosiers struggling through the first half against FGCU.
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St. Johns appears to have less "dudes" than last year.
Alexander
Addae-Wusu
King
Stanley
Storr
Keita
is a lot to lose. They'll probably be better because of coaching but the roster they had last year was scarier.
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Hoosiers struggling through the first half against FGCU.
Hoosiers struggling through the second half against FGCU.
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St. Thomas (TX) up big early on Rice, 7-4 with 16 minutes left in the first half
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Hoosiers struggling through the second half against FGCU.
Alas, it now looks like one of those cliche 'underdog-makes-it-interesting-for-30-but- fades -down-the-stretch' games.
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St. Johns appears to have less "dudes" than last year.
Alexander
Addae-Wusu
King
Stanley
Storr
Keita
is a lot to lose. They'll probably be better because of coaching but the roster they had last year was scarier.
Storr, maybe. But Keita and King barely played. Addae-Wusu and Stanley were mediocre role-players and Alexander had a worse turnover rate than Curbelo.
If you're going to line those six up against Jenkins, Dingle, Ledlum, Alleyne, Taylor, and Wilcher, this new group is the one you take every time.
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Boise State up 16 early on Vanguard
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Boise State up 16 early on Vanguard
Please keep us updated.
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Please keep us updated.
19-point lead with 7:52 left in the first half
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With 3:25 left, Presbyterian leads Vandy by 12
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Weber State up by 18 at half over Benedictine at Mesa
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If we could trick Shaka into playing the Wisconsin game (big IF), I'd be very happy to have Bucky try and go up and down the court with MU. I'd roll the dice on a positive outcome if both teams are in the 80s.
Wisconsin scored 105 points in their opener.
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Storr, maybe. But Keita and King barely played. Addae-Wusu and Stanley were mediocre role-players and Alexander had a worse turnover rate than Curbelo.
If you're going to line those six up against Jenkins, Dingle, Ledlum, Alleyne, Taylor, and Wilcher, this new group is the one you take every time.
Forgot about David Jones too!
This was pulled from Twitter
Alexander - 13pts, 8asst
Addae-Wusu - 10pts
Jones - 15pts (5-of-12)
AJ Storr - 15pts (6-of-13)
Pinzon - 5pts (1-of-7)
King - 22pts (8-of-11)
Keita - 2pts
Curbelo - Ineligible
Gardner - DNP (ankle)
Reede - DNP
Stanley - (Tues. 9pm)
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Loyola Marymount up early on Westcliff, 4-2 with 17:58 left in the first half
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Loyola Marymount up early on Westcliff, 4-2 with 17:58 left in the first half
Westcliff now leads 13-7
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Forgot about David Jones too!
This was pulled from Twitter
Alexander - 13pts, 8asst
Addae-Wusu - 10pts
Jones - 15pts (5-of-12)
AJ Storr - 15pts (6-of-13)
Pinzon - 5pts (1-of-7)
King - 22pts (8-of-11)
Keita - 2pts
Curbelo - Ineligible
Gardner - DNP (ankle)
Reede - DNP
Stanley - (Tues. 9pm)
A round of first night buy games isn't much to go by but I'm still taking Pitino's haul. Especially as so far, going to class is still a part of being a student athlete.
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A round of first night buy games isn't much to go by but I'm still taking Pitino's haul. Especially as so far, going to class is still a part of being a student athlete.
I’ll take Pitino with that group against Anderson and his group. No contest
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Cleveland State up 39-15 over Defiance with 5:49 left in the first half
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Wisconsin scored 105 points in their opener.
We're doomed
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Loyola Marymount up early on Westcliff, 4-2 with 17:58 left in the first half
Easy win for LMU. Good job Stan!!!
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New Hampshire up 59-19 at half over Curry College
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New Hampshire up 59-19 at half over Curry College
Hope MU don't get New Hampshire bracket @ NCAA
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Hope MU don't get New Hampshire bracket @ NCAA
It’ll be ok if we don’t see them til the Elite Eight.
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FAU is drumming the Ramblers pretty good.
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We can’t overlook New Hampshire like we did Vermont so we don’t ruin the tourney vibes around here.
Hope MU don't get New Hampshire bracket @ NCAA
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We can’t overlook New Hampshire like we did Vermont so we don’t ruin the tourney vibes around here.
And we always will need to remember the Maine.
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Sorry, too lazy to check the previous posts…DePaul vs PUFW…WTH???
Delist DU…
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FAU overrated af tbh
Also, Gus the Bus holla at me wit da weed b4 tha MU game homie
uw Madison lets their players get hit a low level infractions. At times. Pathetic.
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FAU overrated af tbh
Tbh this happens every year based on prior year results. Does anyone honestly think they even make the sweet 16 this year. They have 3 actual challenging games in Arizona Illinois and butler . They lose those and they are a 8 seed at best even running the table. Their run last year was great but chances or repeating that is almost 0.
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Portland beat Lewis & Clark 89-72
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Portland beat Lewis & Clark 89-72
Another team to be worried about @ NCAAT
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Portland beat Lewis & Clark 89-72
Still haven't forgiven them.
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Early tip for John Brown at Baylor today at 11AM on ESPN+
Christendom takes on Virginia Military Institute, aka VMI, at 6PM on ESPN+, answering the age-old question of whether God can beat the military.
The Apprentice School takes on Norfolk State at 6PM on ESPN+
Mary St. Catherine’s of Roanoke takes on Marist at 6PM on ESPN+
University of Health Sciences and Pharmacy in St. Louis Eutectics travels to Evansville for an early season tilt at 7PM on ESPN+
University of Science and Arts of Oklahoma Drovers plays UTEP at 8PM on ESPN+
One of these games isn’t real. Do you know which one?
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FAU overrated af tbh
Also, Gus the Bus holla at me wit da weed b4 tha MU game homie
uw Madison lets their players get hit a low level infractions. At times. Pathetic.
Gotta be difficult to successfully execute the fake ID caper when you're 6'9" 230 and a scholarship athlete. If you're going to be John Smith from Cudahy, you gotta sell it.
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Early tip for John Brown at Baylor today at 11AM on ESPN+
Christendom takes on Virginia Military Institute, aka VMI, at 6PM on ESPN+, answering the age-old question of whether God can beat the military.
The Apprentice School takes on Norfolk State at 6PM on ESPN+
Mary St. Catherine’s of Roanoke takes on Marist at 6PM on ESPN+
University of Health Sciences and Pharmacy in St. Louis Eutectics travels to Evansville for an early season tilt at 7PM on ESPN+
University of Science and Arts of Oklahoma Drovers plays UTEP at 8PM on ESPN+
One of these games isn’t real. Do you know which one?
How’s Lunardi gonna be able to keep track of all these games?
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Gotta be difficult to successfully execute the fake ID caper when you're 6'9" 230 and a scholarship athlete. If you're going to be John Smith from Cudahy, you gotta sell it.
Lol. While an underclassman at MU I had a fake ID from Alaska that said i was 5'8" and 130lbs. I was 6'4" and about 180 (generous) at the time. Worked like a charm.
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Southern won at UNLV 85-71 on Wednesday night. Southern is at Fiserv on 11/28.
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Southern won at UNLV 85-71 on Wednesday night. Southern is at Fiserv on 11/28.
Another loss
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McNeese State leads College of Biblical Studies Ambassadors 82-44 with 5:33 left in the game
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Love having our very own Jonny Rothstien on scoop
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McNeese State leads College of Biblical Studies Ambassadors 82-44 with 5:33 left in the game
Always amusing when schools that will struggle to break 80 all year throw up 95-100+ on random NAIA schools early on
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Bethune-Cookman up 30-4 on Trinity (Fla) with 10:33 left in the first half
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Eastern Kentucky up 37-19 over Wilberforce with 9:10 left in the first half. Game is available on ESPN+
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Watching the Arizona/Duke game. How is the San Diego St transfer on Arizona allowed to wear number 16? I thought you had to be 0-5 for every number. Did they change the rules?
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Watching the Arizona/Duke game. How is the San Diego St transfer on Arizona allowed to wear number 16? I thought you had to be 0-5 for every number. Did they change the rules?
Yep. They can wear 0-99.
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Watching the Arizona/Duke game. How is the San Diego St transfer on Arizona allowed to wear number 16? I thought you had to be 0-5 for every number. Did they change the rules?
Major and important rule change for this year. Thankfully the NCAA has been fairly “stern” on the two time transfer revised rules
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Florida Gulf Coast up 43-41 on the Ava Maria Gyrenes with 2:43 left in the first half
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Central Arkansas leads Hendrix 38-22 with :20 left in the first half
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Watching the Arizona/Duke game. How is the San Diego St transfer on Arizona allowed to wear number 16? I thought you had to be 0-5 for every number. Did they change the rules?
Arizona upset Duke.
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Duke can’t wait to get into ACC play.
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Central Arkansas leads Hendrix 38-22 with :20 left in the first half
Jimi back from the dead? Massive bong hits..
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Duke can’t wait to get into ACC play.
Scheyer continuing to get the most out of his 5-stars.
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Badgers lose.
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Badgers lose.
I don’t think Storr will work out for them. That’s an odd fit.
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I don’t think Storr will work out for them. That’s an odd fit.
Not your father's Badgers; gave up 80 at home.
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Louisville lost by 10 to Chattanoogaat at home.
Not surprising these days.
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Watching the Arizona/Duke game. How is the San Diego St transfer on Arizona allowed to wear number 16? I thought you had to be 0-5 for every number. Did they change the rules?
New this year
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Louisville lost by 10 to Chattanoogaat at home.
Not surprising these days.
I struggle to find something as comparable of a fall as Louisville. Its only been 5 years since Pitino left. In his last 5 seasons, they had a Natty, an E8, a S16, and finished 15/16 as a top 3 seed when they self banned themselves from the NCAA.
The Mack years were disappointing by Ville standards, but even with the sanctions/scandals they weren't catastrophic. But my god. They were abysmal last year and somehow got even worse.
They lost to a D2 school a few weeks ago, and not just any D2 school, one that has went .500 the last 2 seasons and was projected middle of their conference at best and who got PELTED by 30 by WKU. Now they barely squeak by a middling low major team and then get beat by double digits at home to a team thats projected middle to bottom of the SoCon. Probably gonna be hard pressed to top their 2 ACC wins of last year.
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I struggle to find something as comparable of a fall as Louisville. Its only been 5 years since Pitino left. In his last 5 seasons, they had a Natty, an E8, a S16, and finished 15/16 as a top 3 seed when they self banned themselves from the NCAA.
The Mack years were disappointing by Ville standards, but even with the sanctions/scandals they weren't catastrophic. But my god. They were abysmal last year and somehow got even worse.
They lost to a D2 school a few weeks ago, and not just any D2 school, one that has went .500 the last 2 seasons and was projected middle of their conference at best and who got PELTED by 30 by WKU. Now they barely squeak by a middling low major team and then get beat by double digits at home to a team thats projected middle to bottom of the SoCon. Probably gonna be hard pressed to top their 2 ACC wins of last year.
That program went to hell as soon as they de-emphasized the use of strippers and hookers as part of their high school recruiting formula under Pitino.
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Kids today!
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/uw/2023/11/09/freshman-gus-yalden-cited-twice-this-year-by-uw-madison-police/71502604007/?itm_medium=recirc&itm_source=taboola&itm_campaign=internal&itm_content=RightRailArticleThumbnails-Redesign
MADISON -- Freshman forward Gus Yalden, who took a leave of absence from the Wisconsin men's basketball team last week, has been cited twice this fall by UW-Madison Police.
Yalden was cited for underage drinking during the football team's opener on Sept. 2.
He was cited for marijuana possession in his dorm on Oct. 29.
UW officials announced Nov. 1 that Yalden was taking a leave of absence to address a personal family matter.
Yalden returned to practice Wednesday.
"Today is his first day back," coach Greg Gard said. "Getting him back to practice was step one of what he is going through."
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Kids today!
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/uw/2023/11/09/freshman-gus-yalden-cited-twice-this-year-by-uw-madison-police/71502604007/?itm_medium=recirc&itm_source=taboola&itm_campaign=internal&itm_content=RightRailArticleThumbnails-Redesign
MADISON -- Freshman forward Gus Yalden, who took a leave of absence from the Wisconsin men's basketball team last week, has been cited twice this fall by UW-Madison Police.
Yalden was cited for underage drinking during the football team's opener on Sept. 2.
He was cited for marijuana possession in his dorm on Oct. 29.
UW officials announced Nov. 1 that Yalden was taking a leave of absence to address a personal family matter.
Yalden returned to practice Wednesday.
"Today is his first day back," coach Greg Gard said. "Getting him back to practice was step one of what he is going through."
Finally, a Badgers player worth liking
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Finally, a Badgers player worth liking
Not to mention his name is Gus and he’s portly. Fat people are funny!
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I don’t think Storr will work out for them. That’s an odd fit.
I actually think they can effectively use a guy like that. Johnny Davis was great there because he added a level of dynamism and ability to play at a faster tempo that they typically don't have. If they end up being the top 15 team some think they can be Storr will be the reason. I still think they're more 30-40, but I can see him changing their ceiling.
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I actually think they can effectively use a guy like that. Johnny Davis was great there because he added a level of dynamism and ability to play at a faster tempo that they typically don't have. If they end up being the top 15 team some think they can be Storr will be the reason. I still think they're more 30-40, but I can see him changing their ceiling.
Giving up 80 to Tennessee at home is an eye-opener for me. Vols are a good team that typically plays slower tempo. Game was a 71-possession game at Troll and looking at the highlights, sure seemed like they didn’t have any issues getting to the rim and had a lot of good looks against Madison.
Think they’ll have nights where baskets fall and they blow some teams out but competent defensive teams like Tennessee will make them look ugly on offense
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Central Arkansas leads Hendrix 38-22 with :20 left in the first half
Thanks for all the hard work you are putting in on this Rico. I don’t even need to go to my Fox sports app for scores anymore. All your effort is appreciated.
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Top Games of the Day:
Cairn at Maryland-Eastern Shore at 2:00PM on ESPN+
Asbury College at Lipscomb at 4:00PM on ESPN+
Southwestern Christian at Arkansas-Pine Bluff at 8:00PM on ESPN+
La Sierra at Cal State-Fullerton at 9:30 PM on ESPN+
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Top Games of the Day:
Cairn at Maryland-Eastern Shore at 2:00PM on ESPN+
Asbury College at Lipscomb at 4:00PM on ESPN+
Southwestern Christian at Arkansas-Pine Bluff at 8:00PM on ESPN+
La Sierra at Cal State-Fullerton at 9:30 PM on ESPN+
Nice!
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Top Games of the Day:
Cairn at Maryland-Eastern Shore at 2:00PM on ESPN+
Asbury College at Lipscomb at 4:00PM on ESPN+
Southwestern Christian at Arkansas-Pine Bluff at 8:00PM on ESPN+
La Sierra at Cal State-Fullerton at 9:30 PM on ESPN+
You forgot the UNC-Wilmington at Wofford women's game at 3 p.m. (2 CT) on ESPN+
Believe it or not, I will be checking that one out (though probably later on demand) because a player I coached starts for UNCW.
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Top Games of the Day:
Cairn at Maryland-Eastern Shore at 2:00PM on ESPN+
Asbury College at Lipscomb at 4:00PM on ESPN+
Southwestern Christian at Arkansas-Pine Bluff at 8:00PM on ESPN+
La Sierra at Cal State-Fullerton at 9:30 PM on ESPN+
Wow what a slate. To think I was going to clip my toenails today.
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Symir Torrence’s 10 points weren’t enough for Binghamton as they fell 89-60 to Pittsburgh last nite.
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Top Games of the Day:
Cairn at Maryland-Eastern Shore at 2:00PM on ESPN+
Asbury College at Lipscomb at 4:00PM on ESPN+
Southwestern Christian at Arkansas-Pine Bluff at 8:00PM on ESPN+
La Sierra at Cal State-Fullerton at 9:30 PM on ESPN+
Will be high out of my mind, thanks!
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Symir Torrence’s 10 points weren’t enough for Binghamton as they fell 89-60 to Pittsburgh last nite.
He’s still in college? Is he in the same Creative Writing PHD program Joey Hauser was in?
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Giving up 80 to Tennessee at home is an eye-opener for me. Vols are a good team that typically plays slower tempo. Game was a 71-possession game at Troll and looking at the highlights, sure seemed like they didn’t have any issues getting to the rim and had a lot of good looks against Madison.
Think they’ll have nights where baskets fall and they blow some teams out but competent defensive teams like Tennessee will make them look ugly on offense
Dalton knecht completely changes their offensive philosophy. They’re a dangerous team if they play their usual level of d.
It also helps that the goin uros plasvic is gone. He had no interest in playing basketball.
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WCU is up 13 at the half in South Bend.
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ND's unis are indescribably hideous. Including their warm-ups.
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no 5 second delay on the michigan penn st post game
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ND's unis are indescribably hideous. Including their warm-ups.
ND is hideous, period
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Dalton knecht completely changes their offensive philosophy. They’re a dangerous team if they play their usual level of d.
It also helps that the goin uros plasvic is gone. He had no interest in playing basketball.
What’s Knecht’s story? I’m not familiar with him. He was very active in the highlights I saw
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What’s Knecht’s story? I’m not familiar with him. He was very active in the highlights I saw
Owns a bong.
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What’s Knecht’s story? I’m not familiar with him. He was very active in the highlights I saw
Big time scorer who played 2 years at Northern Colorado. He changes the Tennessee outlook. They might be the best team in college basketball this year.
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Big time scorer who played 2 years at Northern Colorado. He changes the Tennessee outlook. They might be the best team in college basketball this year.
You're not in the Shaka team? Pathetic!
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ND is hideous, period
Ha! Well played!
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What’s Knecht’s story? I’m not familiar with him. He was very active in the highlights I saw
Super bouncy wing played in a high tempo offfense at northern Arizona last two years. Defense optional so we’ll see how that works out at tennessee
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Super bouncy wing played in a high tempo offfense at northern Arizona last two years. Defense optional so we’ll see how that works out at tennessee
Northern Colorado. TN can afford one poor defender on their roster.
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Northern Colorado. TN can afford one poor defender on their roster.
That’s what they call a Freudian slip in the biz Duane.
Common logic says yes, but Barnes is the type of coach that may cap playing time to a guy who doesn’t give it on d. Not saying I expect that from Dalton but it’s on the table if he doesn’t perform on both ends.
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NIU beat App State by 13 today. App State had been a top 150 team per KenPom
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Interesting. NIU looked good to me. Kept expecting them to fade and they didn’t. Hope they keep winning. My mother’s alma mater.
For betting purposes, WCU really looked good yesterday against a probably really bad Irish team. But something to look out for if their future lines look good.
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Top games of the day:
Penn State-Wilkes Barre @ Morgan State at 11AM on ESPN+
Friends @ Wichita State at 1PM on ESPN+
Eastern Mennonite @ Radford at 3:30PM on ESPN+
North Central (MN) @ St. Thomas (MN) at 4PM on ESPN+
Bard @ Columbia at 5PM on ESPN+
Keystone @ Binghamton at 5:07PM on ESPN+
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I am skipping the Lions game to watch a couple of those early season extravaganzas.
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Tuesday actually has a great slate of games from 5 pm on.
Badgers vs providence
Duke vs Michigan state
Marquette vs Illinois
Kansas vs Kentucky
Iowa vs Creighton
This is a nice little transition into preseason tournament week next week.
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Today’s Top Games:
Ohio Christian @ Youngstown State at 5PM on ESPN+
Framingham St. @ Central Connecticut State at 6PM on ESPN+
Lyon @ Louisiana Tech at 6PM on ESPN+
Brescia @ UT-Martin at 6PM on ESPN+
Champion Baptist @ McNeese State at 7PM on ESPN+
Illinois Tech @ Northern Illinois at 7PM on ESPN+
Hannibal-LaGrange @ Lindenwood at 7PM on ESPN+
Dallas Christian @ Texas A&M-Chorpus Christi at 7:30PM on ESPN+
La Verne @ UC-San Diego at 9PM on ESPN+
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Charleston Southern is up 50-28 over Johnson & Wales (NC)
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Today’s Top Games:
Ohio Christian @ Youngstown State at 5PM on ESPN+
Framingham St. @ Central Connecticut State at 6PM on ESPN+
Lyon @ Louisiana Tech at 6PM on ESPN+
Brescia @ UT-Martin at 6PM on ESPN+
Champion Baptist @ McNeese State at 7PM on ESPN+
Illinois Tech @ Northern Illinois at 7PM on ESPN+
Hannibal-LaGrange @ Lindenwood at 7PM on ESPN+
Dallas Christian @ Texas A&M-Chorpus Christi at 7:30PM on ESPN+
La Verne @ UC-San Diego at 9PM on ESPN+
God bless ESPN plus.
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Arizona is up 12-10 on Southern with 12:52 left in the first half. Available on the PAC-12 Network
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Northern Illinois up 104-50 on Illinois Tech with 2:22 left
Nebraska 60 Rider 46 with 3:35 left
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What channel is tomorrow's game on vs. Illinois
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PENN just beat Nova ….
Good for them
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What channel is tomorrow's game on vs. Illinois
FS1
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Purdue starting to pull away. 5 left. Up 12. Xavier hanging in there. Edey is a beast. Puts his shoulder into everyone and doesn’t get called
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Top games today:
Schreiner @ Incarnate Word at 5PM on ESPN+
Oglethorpe @ Alabama State at 6PM, no TV
Oakland City @ Ball State at 6PM on ESPN+
Columbia International @ UNC-Wilmington at 6PM on ESPN+
Mid-Atlantic Christian @ NC Central at 6PM on ESPN+
Heidelberg @ Akron at 6:30, no TV
Fisk @ Austin Peay at 7PM on ESPN+
Reinhardt @ Troy at 7:30PM on ESPN+
Pacific Union at Sacramento State at 8:30PM on ESPN+
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Top games today:
Schreiner @ Incarnate Word at 5PM on ESPN+
Oglethorpe @ Alabama State at 6PM, no TV
Oakland City @ Ball State at 6PM on ESPN+
Columbia International @ UNC-Wilmington at 6PM on ESPN+
Mid-Atlantic Christian @ NC Central at 6PM on ESPN+
Heidelberg @ Akron at 6:30, no TV
Fisk @ Austin Peay at 7PM on ESPN+
Reinhardt @ Troy at 7:30PM on ESPN+
Pacific Union at Sacramento State at 8:30PM on ESPN+
Is the Heidelberg game an international friendly?
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Purdue starting to pull away. 5 left. Up 12. Xavier hanging in there. Edey is a beast. Puts his shoulder into everyone and doesn’t get called
I just looked up his height. 7 ft 4 300 lbs lol. That’s almost impossible to stop.
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Is the Heidelberg game an international friendly?
I just provide the game times and tv.
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Xavier picked his pocket a couple of times with a well timed double team as he put the ball on the floor.
Remember last year when Gold said Edey looked slow before the Purdue game? I still think there was extra emphasis by Edey on his dunks over Ben.
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I just looked up his height. 7 ft 4 300 lbs lol. That’s almost impossible to stop.
I've seen him in person and it's really hard to convey just how big that kid is. I've heard announcers say the same. Somehow, he seems bigger than "just" 7'4" and 300. He's massive. The kid was just born 30 years too late. He would have been a force in the 90s NBA. He's improved an awful lot since his freshman year and he's a much better player that he was -- he had a number of nice moves last night that he would have tripped while attempting a couple years ago -- but I still don't know if his skill set will transfer to the next level. But damn, he's huge.
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I think the best way to try to handle Edey is just to mitigate the damage he does. Try to deny him the ball, force them to shoot threes so you hopefully get some odd careens on rebounds, and on the other end beat him with ball screens, pick and roll, and misdirection. The other issue is refs don't whistle him for a ton of fouls. He's only fouled out once in his career and that was as a freshman on the road at Miami in 2020. Since then, he's only been hit for 4 fouls in 6/98 games.
The key to beating them is not giving them a chance to get him the ball. Pressure their guards into turnovers before they have a chance to establish the offense. Last year, in their 6 losses, they lost the turnover rate battle 5 times. In addition, you need to be patient on offense. Don't let Edey get easy blocks. They won't turn opponents over, so you get the chance to run your offense and they count on limiting you to one shot. You have to make the first shot count. Pressure and efficiency to mitigate his impact and they can be beat.
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I think the best way to try to handle Edey is just to mitigate the damage he does. Try to deny him the ball, force them to shoot threes so you hopefully get some odd careens on rebounds, and on the other end beat him with ball screens, pick and roll, and misdirection. The other issue is refs don't whistle him for a ton of fouls. He's only fouled out once in his career and that was as a freshman on the road at Miami in 2020. Since then, he's only been hit for 4 fouls in 6/98 games.
The key to beating them is not giving them a chance to get him the ball. Pressure their guards into turnovers before they have a chance to establish the offense. Last year, in their 6 losses, they lost the turnover rate battle 5 times. In addition, you need to be patient on offense. Don't let Edey get easy blocks. They won't turn opponents over, so you get the chance to run your offense and they count on limiting you to one shot. You have to make the first shot count. Pressure and efficiency to mitigate his impact and they can be beat.
That all sounds good to me, brew. I look forward to watching it work to perfection when we beat Purdue for the Hawaii tourney title next week!
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That all sounds good to me, brew. I look forward to watching it work to perfection when we beat Purdue for the Hawaii tourney title next week!
My daughter graduated from Purdue this spring and we watch a lot of basketball together. I really liked everything about Purdue while she was there, so Purdue has unofficially become my second favorite team. We are both really looking forward to the Hawaii tourney and would soooo enjoy that matchup.
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Colgate up 43-27 on Syracuse.
:)
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Calling the Bagder's offense putrid would be far too kind
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Calling the Bagder's offense putrid would be far too kind
I have to give them credit for their discipline. They used the entire shot clock and executed down 23 with under 3 mins to play.
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GO COLGATE!!! :)
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Colgate up 43-27 on Syracuse.
:)
Brushing the Orange all over.
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Northern Iowa beat Loras 90-50
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Oregon State 9 Appalachian State 5 with 15:38 left in the first half on PAC-12 Network
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Oregon State 9 Appalachian State 5 with 15:38 left in the first half on PAC-12 Network
Guess the scoring only applies to football
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Iowa and creighton in an absolute track meet
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Gonzaga up 106-48 on Eastern Oregon with 7:54 left. Available on ROOT and ESPN+
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Gonzaga up 106-48 on Eastern Oregon with 7:54 left.
As someone said in another thread, it would be great if Gonzaga could get into the top 10 for next week. I’m not sure there has ever been five top 10 teams in an in-season tournament.
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Zags edging them on the boards 55-19
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At the Champions Classic, and eye test wise, I think MU matches up very well with a potential game against the Jayhawks. KU is going to have problems guarding Kam and Kolek (obviously most teams will). Oso can matchup well with Dickinson.
Kentucky is blasting KU as I type this.
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Impressive first half for Kentucky.
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As someone said in another thread, it would be great if Gonzaga could get into the top 10 for next week. I’m not sure there has ever been five top 10 teams in an in-season tournament.
There never have been 3 top-10 teams in an MTE before. This is by far the best MTE field in NCAA history. It's not even close.
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At the Champions Classic, and eye test wise, I think MU matches up very well with a potential game against the Jayhawks. KU is going to have problems guarding Kam and Kolek (obviously most teams will). Oso can matchup well with Dickinson.
Kentucky is blasting KU as I type this.
There's a chance but MU has to hit the open looks at a much higher clip than they did tonight. I can envision a matching where Dickinson registers approximately eleventy billion offensive rebounds
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At the Champions Classic, and eye test wise, I think MU matches up very well with a potential game against the Jayhawks. KU is going to have problems guarding Kam and Kolek (obviously most teams will). Oso can matchup well with Dickinson.
Kentucky is blasting KU as I type this.
Well KU has to get past Chaminade.
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Heck of a 1st half between Creighton/Iowa.
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At the Champions Classic, and eye test wise, I think MU matches up very well with a potential game against the Jayhawks. KU is going to have problems guarding Kam and Kolek (obviously most teams will). Oso can matchup well with Dickinson.
Kentucky is blasting KU as I type this.
I take it back, Dish, I think you are right. A disciplined but handsy MU team could take Kansas
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Surprised how reckless KU has been with the ball. They’re playing like they all just met (which isn’t necessarily false). I really think MU’s cohesiveness will be a huge benefit.
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Surprised how reckless KU has been with the ball. They’re playing like they all just met (which isn’t necessarily false). I really think MU’s cohesiveness will be a huge benefit.
That's once I've definitely had circled since the schedule came out. Purdue is the team that most worries me in Maui, and after them I think Tennessee looks better than Kansas so far. Still hoping the Jayhawks pull it off tonight.
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If we match up with Kansas Dickinson is a problem. Let me see what I can come up with by next week. :)
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That's once I've definitely had circled since the schedule came out. Purdue is the team that most worries me in Maui, and after them I think Tennessee looks better than Kansas so far. Still hoping the Jayhawks pull it off tonight.
Totally agree on all this.
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Kansas looks like they woke up.
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Kansas looks like they woke up.
That was a swing. Kentucky has also airballed at least 3 threes in that time.
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Dickinson's shoes look ridiculous.
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When McCullar & Dickinson both came out, I said out loud “this lineup won’t last two possessions”, and sure enough, Kentucky took advantage.
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When McCullar & Dickinson both came out, I said out loud “this lineup won’t last two possessions”, and sure enough, Kentucky took advantage.
Who's less likable Self or Cal?
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Kansas doesn't seem to have great shooters.
Except for Harris.
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Who's less likable Self or Cal?
I’ve met Self multiple times, he’s extremely personable and unselfish with his time.
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Who's less likable Self or Cal?
Self is as sleazy as it gets and is at the perfect school for that.
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Self is as sleazy as it gets and is at the perfect school for that.
Agreed.
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How would Jokic do against Dickinson?
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KU working hard to keep that #1- will be more satisfying to beat them that way
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KU working hard to keep that #1- will be more satisfying to beat them that way
Exactly.
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There's a real chance all four 1-seeds will be in Hawaii next week.
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There's a real chance all four 1-seeds will be in Hawaii next week.
Has there ever been 5 top 10 teans in any TG tournament before?
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I’ve met Self multiple times, he’s extremely personable and unselfish with his time.
Totally agree about Self. Just a good guy.
I don't know Calipari at all, but he seems OK, too.
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Has there ever been 5 top 10 teans in any TG tournament before?
No, this is the best MTE field ever.
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Apparently someone either on USC or in the media disparaged the Anteaters?
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Apparently someone either on USC or in the media disparaged the Anteaters?
UCI wins by 10. :)
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UCI wins by 10. :)
:)
Why isn't there an anteater emoji? :(
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Who's less likable Self or Cal?
Self, by far.
How would Jokic do against Dickinson?
I think the 2 time NBA MVP, 1 time Finals MVP would do just fine against the college kid whose game doesn’t translate to the NBA and can’t defend in space.
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Oregon State 9 Appalachian State 5 with 15:38 left in the first half on PAC-12 Network
Favorite network of uncle geeko
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Favorite network of uncle geeko
Thanks, Golden Eagle Jay Bee
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Games of the Day:
Roberts Wesleyan @ Buffalo at 6PM on ESPN+
Westfield State @ Dartmouth at 6PM on ESPN+
Keiser @ Kennesaw St. at 6PM on ESPN+
Louisiana Christian @ Louisiana at 7PM on ESPN+
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Texas' Dylan Disu (foot) is "definitely making positive progress", but still has no timetable for a return, per a school spokesman.
Has yet to play this season.
Averaged 22.5 PPG and 10 RPG in two NCAA Tournament games last March.
Longhorns host Rice tonight in Austin.
-Rothstein
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Nebraska up big on Stony Brook early, 25-22 with 4:37 left in the first half
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Georgetown down 6 at half to Rutgers. We’re down 13 at one point.
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Watching UCLA. Bona looks like a lot to handle.
Mara seems pretty weak with the ball. When running the Golden Bear, Ben would have his way with him
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Watching UCLA. Bona looks like a lot to handle.
Mara seems pretty weak with the ball. When running the Golden Bear, Ben would have his way with him
Bona is going to destroy us on the glass. Their defensive length really makes the court look small. Going to have to get their bigs moving out on the perimeter when we are on offense. Should be a close one.
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Watching UCLA. Bona looks like a lot to handle.
Mara seems pretty weak with the ball. When running the Golden Bear, Ben would have his way with him
My favorite part of today's UCLA game was that former Badger Tai Stickland was on LIU's roster. Tai Strickland is famous because Buckyville once declared that the reason DJ Carton choose Marquette was because he was scared that he couldn't get playing time over Stickland.
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UCLA went 0/6 from 3 tonight for the entire game and only 2 guys even shot them.
We need to pressure the bigs, force UCLA to shoot like Illinois and hope they dont randomly get hot and we will be just fine.
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Bona is going to destroy us on the glass. Their defensive length really makes the court look small. Going to have to get their bigs moving out on the perimeter when we are on offense. Should be a close one.
UCLA has played of worst teams in college basketball so far. Over that stretch they have dropped double digit spots in KenPom because of how poorly they played against garbage competition. I think we spank them.
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UCLA went 0/6 from 3 tonight for the entire game and only 2 guys even shot them.
We need to pressure the bigs, force UCLA to shoot like Illinois and hope they dont randomly get hot and we will be just fine.
They were missing their starting PG, Dylan Andrews who is the closest thing they have to a good 3P shooter. When asked why he didn't play, Cronin said "Coach's decision". No idea what that means or if he'll be available for Maui. They're PG play is shaky enough with him.
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Games of the Day:
St. Katherine’s @ CSU Bakersfield at 1PM on ESPN+
Oneonta St. @ Lehigh at 6PM on ESPN+
Felician College @ Manhattan at 6PM on ESPN+
Valley City St. @ North Dakota at 7PM on ESPN+
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UCLA has played of worst teams in college basketball so far. Over that stretch they have dropped double digit spots in KenPom because of how poorly they played against garbage competition. I think we spank them.
I wish it were at Maui. For whatever reason, small gyms always seem to favor teams with good 3 point shooting. The close backdrop always seems to bode well for those teams. I think there is a scenario where we blow them out, but they have some real mismatches. Should be a fun one.
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St. Louis going to 4-0. So jealous.
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I wish it were at Maui. For whatever reason, small gyms always seem to favor teams with good 3 point shooting. The close backdrop always seems to bode well for those teams. I think there is a scenario where we blow them out, but they have some real mismatches. Should be a fun one.
I wouldn't classify 10,300 seating capacity small for this year's Maui invitational.
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I wouldn't classify 10,300 seating capacity small for this year's Maui invitational.
I think that's his point
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I think that's his point
Yes I knew that. I was just reinforcing the point.
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A Radford or GT type destroying?
Bona is going to destroy us on the glass. Their defensive length really makes the court look small. Going to have to get their bigs moving out on the perimeter when we are on offense. Should be a close one.
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I wish it were at Maui. For whatever reason, small gyms always seem to favor teams with good 3 point shooting. The close backdrop always seems to bode well for those teams. I think there is a scenario where we blow them out, but they have some real mismatches. Should be a fun one.
The rims at Lahaina are ridiculously soft as well. Would have been fun for our team to get play there but oh well.
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UMass-Lowell? Really ASU?
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Notre Lame is awful.
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Pretty entertaining Missouri-Minnesota game. Dawson Garcia and the gophers blew a 20 point lead to lose in the final seconds. Big 10 stinks
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Ben Johnson makes Wojo look like a strategic mastermind.
Im not even being hyperbolic when I saw that final 10 minutes and most importantly final 2 possessions was the worst coaching in at least the last 20 years of college basketball
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So bad. Absolutely disgraceful play calling and execution. Coach and players. All bad. Has Dawson standing in the corner, staying out of the play, intentionally. Just brutal
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That second to last MN possession where they were up 1 and dribbled out the entire shot clock and then chucked a contested jumper 6 inches inside the 3 point line was crafty
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So bad. Absolutely disgraceful play calling and execution. Coach and players. All bad. Has Dawson standing in the corner, staying out of the play, intentionally. Just brutal
Dawson getting a chance to try the Oso point forward role and immediately getting 10 second violation'd was laughable.
But i was flabbergast at having Christie the freshman that was 0fer up 1 in front of our own bench dribble down the whole clock to launch from Curry range. Then down 2 final possession call timeout to let Christie take the longest 2 possible at the horn.
Crazy stuff. Felt legit terrible for my diehard gopher pals.
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Games of the Day:
Life Pacific College @ Cal State Northridge at 3:00PM on ESPN+
Herm’s Badgers host Robert Morris at 6PM on B1G Ten+
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Vermont annihilates St. Louis, 78-68
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Hope we don't play them in the tourney first round or some on here will lose their crap...
Vermont annihilates St. Louis, 78-68
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Vermont annihilates St. Louis, 78-68
Well, for Vermont it is the season of the sticks.
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Winthrop smoking Holy Cross 10-1 with 15:59 left in the first half
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Winthrop smoking Holy Cross 10-1 with 15:59 left in the first half
Mercy rule!
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Long Beach State up on Michigan?
Robert Morris hanging with Wisconsin?
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Long Beach State up on Michigan?
Robert Morris hanging with Wisconsin?
Does not reflect well on The Badgers to be in a tight game with Bob Morris.
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PC doesn't have better players than K St, so K St likely going to win this game in OT, but encouraged English has had a better idea what to do at the end of a close game than Tang has.
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Does not reflect well on The Badgers to be in a tight game with Bob Morris.
Hurts Marquette’s cause
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Bucky pulling away.
Michigan finally up.
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Bucky pulling away.
Kenpom ranking skyrockets.
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My favorite part of today's UCLA game was that former Badger Tai Stickland was on LIU's roster. Tai Strickland is famous because Buckyville once declared that the reason DJ Carton choose Marquette was because he was scared that he couldn't get playing time over Stickland.
IIRC, he was ranked something last 352nd in that recruiting class and Buckyville treated him like the next coming of Rod Strickland
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Well, for Vermont it is the season of the sticks.
No worries. Sap will be running come tournament time and Vermont will be distracted.
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very likely...
Kenpom ranking skyrockets.
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#14 Arkansas just lost at home to UNC-Greensboro.
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Solid rebound win for Illini. Hawkins did not play. Illini performing well is helpful to MUs cause.
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Solid rebound win for Illini. Hawkins did not play. Illini performing well is helpful to MUs cause.
If you needed anymore evidence at how difficult Marquette is to gameplan for... Dain Dainja had 16 points and 7 rebounds tonight after a nothing-ball on Tuesday.
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JMU (now #24) took out Radford 76-73.
Looks like JMU did not take Radford seriously despite the deep concern from scoopers about Radford.
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If you needed anymore evidence at how difficult Marquette is to gameplan for... Dain Dainja had 16 points and 7 rebounds tonight after a nothing-ball on Tuesday.
Or play a stat padding game against Valpo…
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very likely...
Actually, they dropped ten spots because they were heavy favorites
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Games of the Day:
Virginia-Lynchburg @ UNC-Asheville at 1:00PM on ESPN+
Lake Erie @ Utah Tech at 1:00PM on ESPN+
Kentucky State @ Western Kentucky at 7:00PM on ESPN+
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JMU (now #24) took out Radford 76-73.
Looks like JMU did not take Radford seriously despite the deep concern from scoopers about Radford.
Obviously, the game was close because JMU fans had the temerity to go on a fansite and discuss next week's game against Southern.
I mean, that's just science!
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Congratulations to Long Beach State. With the transitive property of scores and the real game vs scrimmage conversion factor, LBS is 12 points better than MU?
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Games of the Day:
Virginia-Lynchburg @ UNC-Asheville at 1:00PM on ESPN+
Lake Erie @ Utah Tech at 1:00PM on ESPN+
Kentucky State @ Western Kentucky at 7:00PM on ESPN+
Lake Erie is getting close to the ‘first four out’ group in Lunardi’s bracketology.
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Games of the Day:
Kentucky State @ Western Kentucky at 7:00PM on ESPN+
Anxiously awaiting the big battle for Kentucky
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yep, totally ruined the vibe.
Obviously, the game was close because JMU fans had the temerity to go on a fansite and discuss next week's game against Southern.
I mean, that's just science!
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Bryant dominates FAU. Get them out of the top 25.
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Bryant dominates FAU. Get them out of the top 25.
That should get Gonzaga into the top 10. So, the final tally should be 5 of the top 10 in Hawaii.
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Well, for Vermont it is the season of the sticks.
I see what you did here, Noah!
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I see what you did here, Noah!
I dream each night of a version of MU
Where they may not jam
But they do not lose.
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Bryant dominates FAU. Get them out of the top 25.
Just an incredibly reactionary ranking. Never understood all the love they were getting.
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Games of the Day:
Wilkes @ Lafayette at Noon on Espn+
Aurora @ UIC at 4PM on ESPN+
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Just an incredibly reactionary ranking. Never understood all the love they were getting.
To be fair, they returned everyone from a team that went 35-4 and made it to the Final Four last year. If FAU was ever going to be ranked as a top 10 team, this was the year to do it.
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Games of the Day:
Wilkes @ Lafayette at Noon on Espn+
Aurora @ UIC at 4PM on ESPN+
Painfully unfunny.
Eliminate this bit from your shtick.
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Painfully unfunny.
Eliminate this bit from your shtick.
No, I won’t
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No, I won’t
Suit yourself but I’m only trying to help. Don’t blame me when the crowd heckles you at open mic Tuesday.
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Suit yourself but I’m only trying to help. Don’t blame me when the crowd heckles you at open mic Tuesday.
Crean sucks
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No, I won’t
Yeah if there’s one guy I’m not going to for comedic advice it’s Lenny’s.
Now if I wanted advice on how to be a cranky, old turd otoh…
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Hopefully UCONN takes care of business vs the Hoosiers.
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I would prefer UConn to win today and lose to Texas. I want Texas as a top 10 when the come to the fiserv in December.
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This Indiana team stinks. UConn should roll them
2 fouls on Johnson does not help IU
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This Indiana team stinks. UConn should roll them
2 fouls on Johnson does not help IU
Huskies look brutal early.
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How good is Castle? J. Williams said before the game he has "a chance to be the best UCONN guard ever." Perhaps he's never heard of Ray Allen or Richard Hamilton.
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Very physical first half. UCONN looks slow to me on tbe perimeter.
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Having watched IU three times this season, their guard play is weak and they have frequently played like strangers.
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Having watched IU three times this season, their guard play is weak and they have frequently played like strangers.
Did someone ground you Tower? How unfortunate you have watched IU three times. :(
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Married to a Hoosier.
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Married to a Hoosier.
Hang in there Tower. They have some talent.
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Emotionally detached. (My default as an older Gen X) An opportunity to watch other teams, see what they are doing, compare it to what MU is doing, etc. Wins all around.
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I can't say I've been overly impressed with Clingan today. Although.....he's been more impressive than Myron Metcalf as a sideline reporter. The guy literally made up something he heard in the IU huddle during a time-out.
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Yeah if there’s one guy I’m not going to for comedic advice it’s Lenny’s.
Now if I wanted advice on how to be a cranky, old turd otoh…
You’re already a cranky turd, no advice needed there. If you want to get old, I’d advise you to get out of your basement. More exercise, less Scoop.
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Texas with a brutal first half against hapless Louisville.
Would be key for us if Texas can destroy them in half two.
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Texas with a brutal first half against hapless Louisville.
Would be key for us if Texas can destroy them in half two.
Very surprising score.
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Texas losing would kind of suck. Hopefully they luck out because they look awful.
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Yeah this is brutal by Texas
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woof pulled it out.
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Yeah this is brutal by Texas
Whew.
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Painfully unfunny.
Eliminate this bit from your shtick.
Lol this is the only part of his schtick that’s unfunny ?
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Texas losing would kind of suck. Hopefully they luck out because they look awful.
They really need Disu back. But, a big guy with lingering foot problems probably doesn't bode well for him.
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UT-Arlington is only down 6 at the half to Zona.
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UT-Arlington is only down 6 at the half to Zona.
Only to give up 14 straight points to start the 2nd half, now down 20.
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Only to give up 14 straight points to start the 2nd half, now down 20.
Whoops. :(
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Games of the Day, now sponsored by Lenny’s Tap:
Pittsburgh-Greensburg @ St. Francis (PA) at 6PM on NEC
D’Youville @ Canisius at 6:30PM on ESPN+
Ecclesia @ Louisiana-Monroe at 6:30PM on ESPN+
UW-Stout at North Dakota State at 7:00PM on ESPN+
Kansas @ Chaminade at 8PM on ESPNU
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Games of the Day, now sponsored by Lenny’s Tap:
Pittsburgh-Greensburg @ St. Francis (PA) at 6PM on NEC
D’Youville @ Canisius at 6:30PM on ESPN+
Ecclesia @ Louisiana-Monroe at 6:30PM on ESPN+
UW-Stout at North Dakota State at 7:00PM on ESPN+
Kansas @ Chaminade at 8PM on ESPN
KU-Chaminade is on ESPNU. We pay good money for our subscription to your must-see-games listings, Unk. If you're not gonna be accurate, you need to lower your fee.
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Games of the Day, now sponsored by Lenny’s Tap:
Pittsburgh-Greensburg @ St. Francis (PA) at 6PM on NEC
D’Youville @ Canisius at 6:30PM on ESPN+
Ecclesia @ Louisiana-Monroe at 6:30PM on ESPN+
UW-Stout at North Dakota State at 7:00PM on ESPN+
Kansas @ Chaminade at 8PM on ESPN
You could be making up college names at this point and no one would really know. D'Youville?
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KU-Chaminade is on ESPNU. We pay good money for our subscription to your must-see-games listings, Unk. If you're not gonna be accurate, you need to lower your fee.
Correction noted. I’ve taken that sweet sponsorship money and gotten lazy
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You could be making up college names at this point and no one would really know. D'Youville?
Only reason I do this, tbh. I’m fascinated by the schools on the daily schedule such as D’Youville.
I guess I miss the days of Athletes in Action
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Google it. DII in Buffalo. A new thing to learn for the day.
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Games of the Day, now sponsored by Lenny’s Tap:
LOL
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Games of the Day, now sponsored by Lenny’s Tap:
Pittsburgh-Greensburg @ St. Francis (PA) at 6PM on NEC
D’Youville @ Canisius at 6:30PM on ESPN+
Ecclesia @ Louisiana-Monroe at 6:30PM on ESPN+
UW-Stout at North Dakota State at 7:00PM on ESPN+
Kansas @ Chaminade at 8PM on ESPNU
Fantastic.
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Correction noted. I’ve taken that sweet sponsorship money and gotten lazy
Don’t forget boring.
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It's from the Suess book: D'Yorton Hears D'Youville!
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Long Beach State just got done posting 94 points in a win against Michigan.
They currently have 38 and trail Illinois State with 7:50 left.
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Long Beach State just got done posting 94 points in a win against Michigan.
They currently have 38 and trail Illinois State with 7:50 left.
Marquette sucks
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So, by the transitive property.....
Never mind. Too many numbers.
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Is it that time of year when we get to reminisce about Ralph Sampson and #1 Virginia losing to Chaminade? (1982)
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Badgers blowing out Virginia
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Badgers blowing out Virginia
It's what I imagine hell to look like.
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22 to 14 3 mins left first half, man that’s painful
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Indiana turns the game around playing zone. RMK rolls over in his grave.
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Badgers smoking Virginia by 10 at halftime
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Badgers smoking Virginia by 10 at halftime
Good grief! 28-18? You're right though. A 10 point lead vs UVA is closer to 25. Extremely disappointing. :(
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Badgers smoking Virginia Slims by 10 at halftime
Fify
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Impressive Badgers win
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Marquette should forfeit...
Impressive Badgers win
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Marquette should forfeit...
And I'm feeling a Kon decommit coming. Sorry Duke.
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Marquette should forfeit...
Maybe they should just cancel the series altogether?
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St. Joe's going to overtime vs Kentucky.
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Only reason I do this, tbh. I’m fascinated by the schools on the daily schedule such as D’Youville.
Honestly fascinated? Seriously? Now THAT’S funny. Funny as in sad.
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Honestly fascinated? Seriously? Now THAT’S funny. Funny as in sad.
You’re trying too hard.
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You’re trying too hard.
Nah, Rico (and you with your weird need to butt in) make it easy.
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Nah, Rico (and you with your weird need to butt in) make it easy.
Make what easy?
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Badgers blowing out Virginia
Out rebounded Virginia 48-21. Wow.
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Karaban is a load as well as Johnson, very tall and athletic team!
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Nah, Rico (and you with your weird need to butt in) make it easy.
Yeah real strange I post on a public message board. 🙄🙄🙄
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Games of the Day brought to you by our friends at Lenny’s Tap and Corby’s Canadian Whiskey:
UCLA @ Chaminade at 4:00PM on ESPN+
Blue Mountain @ Nicholls at 6:30PM on ESPN+
Lynn @ South Alabama at 7PM on ESPN+
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Games of the Day brought to you by our friends at Lenny’s Tap and Corby’s Canadian Whiskey:
UCLA @ Chaminade at 4:00PM on ESPN+
Blue Mountain @ Nicholls at 6:30PM on ESPN+
Lynn @ South Alabama at 7PM on ESPN+
Brought to you by Lenny's tap.
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I take it back, Dish, I think you are right. A disciplined but handsy MU team could take Kansas
Hopefully 20 basketball minutes from now, you & I will look like Nostradamus’s.
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Games of the Day brought to you by our friends at Lenny’s Tap:
Johnson & Wales @ Rhode Island at 1PM on ESPN+
Franciscan @ St. Francis (PA) at 6PM on NEC
Vermont State-Johnson @ Vermont at 6PM on ESPN+
Colorado Christian @ Denver at 8PM on ESPN+
Walla Walla @ Eastern Washington at 8PM on ESPN+
Syracuse @ Chaminade at 8:30PM on EspnU
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Games of the Day brought to you by our friends at Lenny’s Tap:
Johnson & Wales @ Rhode Island at 1PM on ESPN+
Franciscan @ St. Francis (PA) at 6PM on NEC
Vermont State-Johnson @ Vermont at 6PM on ESPN+
Colorado Christian @ Denver at 8PM on ESPN+
Walla Walla @ Eastern Washington at 8PM on ESPN+
Syracuse @ Chaminade at 8:30PM on EspnU
Love that last game
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Some here are going to be really excited about that Vermont State-Johnson game.
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Some here are going to be really excited about that Vermont State-Johnson game.
For the Green Weenie trophy.
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Different vibe to 'Stick Season.'
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I'm really glad Bill Self can get a win against a team that's more in his talent bracket
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UCLA is not looking good early vs the Zags.
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There are no games worth watching today. Thanks
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There are no games worth watching today. Thanks, Lenny
Fify
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Games of the Day Brought to you by Lenny’s Tap:
Western Colorado State at Utah Tech at 7PM on ESPN+
Le Moyne at Pacific at 9PM on ESPN+
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FAU beats Texas A&M at the ESPN Events tourney in Orlando a day after beating Butler.
Good win for the Owls or bad loss for the Aggies?
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FAU beats Texas A&M at the ESPN Events tourney in Orlando a day after beating Butler.
Good win for the Owls or bad loss for the Aggies?
Do not dispararage our🦉🦉🦉population. Neither is your answer. FAU obviously had a dud game but have a very good squad.
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Duke trails Southern Indiana 35-31 at halftime. Southern Indiana became D1 last season and is currently 1-5.
They have 1 win vs. a Power 6 opponent. They beat UW-Madison in 1991 as a D2 school.
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Duke trails Southern Indiana 35-31 at halftime. Southern Indiana became D1 last season and is currently 1-5.
They have 1 win vs. a Power 6 opponent. They beat UW-Madison in 1991 as a D2 school.
Only 6personal.fouls against USI in the first half. Lets see what it ends up being
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The Screaming Eagles beat Tiflin so you know Duke had some concerns.
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Games of the Day brought to you by our friends at Lenny’s Tap:
Clark’s Summit at VMI at Noon on ESPN+
Limestone at Gardner-Webb at Noon on ESPN+
Cleary at IUPUI at 1PM on ESPN+
Eureka at Eastern Illinois at 2PM on ESPN+
Dillard at Louisiana Tech at 2PM on ESPN+
Voorhees at South Carolina Upstate at 3PM on ESPN+
Paul Quinn at San Houston State at 6:30PM on ESPN+
Willamette at Portland at 7PM on ESPN+
Vanguard at California Baptist at 7PM on ESPN+
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It does amaze me that so many D1 schools now regularly schedule D3 schools as part of their regular season these days.
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It does amaze me that so many D1 schools now regularly schedule D3 schools as part of their regular season these days.
I bet brew or TAMU would know but I wonder if there are less buy game opportunities for some of these schools and they have to full their schedule this way
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I bet brew or TAMU would know but I wonder if there are less buy game opportunities for some of these schools and they have to full their schedule this way
Right. This is their version of a "buy game." And they don't care about any negative scheduling consequences because these programs know the only way they get to the NCAAs is by winning their conference tournament.
It just seems much more prevalent than it used to be. Or maybe I just didn't see it until Lenny's Tap stepped up to sponsor such a valuable service!
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Right … it’s a “ buy game “ … and a win.
But when Clark’s Summit or Paul Quinn needs a buy game who do they schedule?
The St Anthony 7th grade boys B team ? ?
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Right … it’s a “ buy game “ … and a win.
But when Clark’s Summit or Paul Quinn needs a buy game who do they schedule?
The St Anthony 7th grade boys B team ? ?
D3 schools don't schedule buy games because the crowds aren't big enough to cut a check.
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Right … it’s a “ buy game “ … and a win.
But when Clark’s Summit or Paul Quinn needs a buy game who do they schedule?
The St Anthony 7th grade boys B team ? ?
Probably DePaul
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I bet brew or TAMU would know but I wonder if there are less buy game opportunities for some of these schools and they have to full their schedule this way
I think this is it. Many of these teams are almost exclusively playing road games in non-con because that's where they make their money, and paying another D1 to come in would be far more expensive (and risky) than paying the D3 down the street.
They aren't playing for seeding or a bid, it's just giving their fans wins (hopefully) to cheer for at home while building the bank account on the road.
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/wild-brawl-between-robert-morris-and-jacksonville-causes-refs-to-eject-all-but-10-players-010809263.html
This is why Uncle Rico posts his schedule of under the radar games, brought to you by Lenny's tap (tm). You never know when you will see something like this.
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You missed Wittenberg vs Purdue-Fort Wayne
Games of the Day brought to you by our friends at Lenny’s Tap:
Clark’s Summit at VMI at Noon on ESPN+
Limestone at Gardner-Webb at Noon on ESPN+
Cleary at IUPUI at 1PM on ESPN+
Eureka at Eastern Illinois at 2PM on ESPN+
Dillard at Louisiana Tech at 2PM on ESPN+
Voorhees at South Carolina Upstate at 3PM on ESPN+
Paul Quinn at San Houston State at 6:30PM on ESPN+
Willamette at Portland at 7PM on ESPN+
Vanguard at California Baptist at 7PM on ESPN+
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Huge crowd at Wintrust to watch DePaul/NIU.
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Huge crowd at Wintrust to watch DePaul/NIU.
It's a Saturday night and Muggs is watching DePaul basketball.
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It's a Saturday night and Muggs is watching DePaul basketball.
I have a 6am flight but keep track of BEast games when I can.
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It's a Saturday night and Muggs is watching DePaul basketball.
Yep. And it's a Saturday night and Sultan and Snoop are posting on Scoop. ;D
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Yep. And it's a Saturday night and Sultan and Snoop are posting on Scoop. ;D
Yeah...but DePaul...
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Just checked in …
Duh Paul getting boat raced by NIU, down 50 to 31 early in 2d half ! lol
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Games of the Day brought to you by our good friends at Lenny’s Tap:
Vermont State-Johnson at Boston at 1PM on ESPN+
Angelo State at North Texas at 2PM on ESPN+
Hood at American at 3PM on ESPN+
Bethesda at UC-Riverside at 4PM on ESPN+
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You are obsessed with that Vermont State- Johnson.
On a side note, is that an official thing?
Like state bird, state flower, state tree?
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Just checked in …
Duh Paul getting boat raced by NIU, down 50 to 31 early in 2d half ! lol
Maybe they should the name of the University from DePaul to ApPauled.
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Maybe they should the name of the University from DePaul to ApPauled.
DePaul - Johnson
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Maybe they should the name of the University from DePaul to ApPauled.
Deplorable?
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Games of the Day brought to you by our friends at Lenny’s Tap:
Springfield (MA) at Bryant at 6PM on ESPN+
Arkansas Baptist at Arkansas-Pine Bluff at 7PM, no TV
York College (NE) at Nebraska-Omaha at 7:30PM on ESPN+
Navajo Tech at Weber State at 8PM on ESPN+
Point Loma Nazarene at San Diego State at 9PM on MWN
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Point Loma Nazarene is one of the prettiest campuses in the country.
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Defense optional at the Cintas tonight.
Xavier trails Oakland 49-48 with about 17 minutes left in the game.
Defensive clinic being put on by Madison.
They lead Western Illinois 35-19 at half.
UConn up 10 late in the 1st half vs. New Hampshire.
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Defense optional at the Cintas tonight.
Xavier trails Oakland 49-48 with about 17 minutes left in the game.
Defensive clinic being put on by Madison.
They lead Western Illinois 35-19 at half.
UConn up 10 late in the 1st half vs. New Hampshire.
Bucky up 16 - now I’m really nervous about Saturday’s game. 😳
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I thought X was OK. They look horrible right now.
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Northern Illinois plays Northwestern tonight.
NIU is 5-1 on the year after blasting DePaul. Their lone loss was obviously to Marquette on opening night so that game might be one to have interest in.
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I thought X was OK. They look horrible right now.
Enormous probs for the Muskies.
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Enormous probs for the Muskies.
They are getting an insanely friendly whistle too.
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Greg Kampe is so cool. Great interview.
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They are getting an insanely friendly whistle too.
I just saw the last 9 mins but it seems to me they were outplayed. And yes, they got a bunch of calls.
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Games of the Day brought to you by our good friends at Lenny’s Tap:
Bob Jones at Winthrop at 5:30PM on ESPN+
Spalding at Miami (OH) a 6PM on ESPN+
Southern University at New Orleans at SE Louisiana at 6PM on ESPN+
Concordia-Morehead at North Dakota at 7PM on Summ
Waldorf at South Dakota at 7PM on Summ
University of the Southwest at New Mexico State at 8PM on ESPN+
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Spalding at Miami (OH) a 6PM on ESPN+
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Any day with a Caddyshack reference is a good day.
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Shepard for Kentucky has impressed me.
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Games of the Day brought to you by our good friends at Lenny’s Tap:
Bob Jones at Winthrop at 5:30PM on ESPN+
Spalding at Miami (OH) a 6PM on ESPN+
Southern University at New Orleans at SE Louisiana at 6PM on ESPN+
Concordia-Morehead at North Dakota at 7PM on Summ
Waldorf at South Dakota at 7PM on Summ
University of the Southwest at New Mexico State at 8PM on ESPN+
Top notch games, hopefully they all play hard and respect each other.
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Kansas only up 44-40 on Eastern Kentucky.
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Kansas only up 44-40 on Eastern Kentucky.
Eastern Illinois
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Really funny that for a brief moment about a week ago basketball fans(not just Kansas ones) acted like it was at least a open discussion for who is a better PG between TK and Harris.
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Eastern Illinois
My bad. Ty.
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Games of the Day brought to you by our good friends at Lenny’s Tap that remind you to drive irresponsibly:
Albany St. (GA) at Florida A&M at 6PM on RATT
Coastal Georgia at Stetson at 6PM on ESPN+
SUNY-Fredonia at LeMoyne at 6PM on NEC
Campbellsville at Western Kentucky at 7PM on ESPN+
Dallas Christian at Texas A&M-Commerce at 7PM on ESPN+
Menlo at Santa Clara at 9PM on ESPN+
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that remind you to drive irresponsibly:
Only on tight doglegs.
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Buzz sporting a chin beard?
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I see Tennessee decided not to show up in Chapel Hill.
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I see Tennessee decided not to show up in Chapel Hill.
Threw in the towel after watching the big boys play on Oahu
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Is giving up 61 points in the first half bad?
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Nova pooping the bed again is not helpful.
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Nova pooping the bed again is not helpful.
Not at all. WTF???
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Virginia is up 11 on A&M.
I wonder how Buzz feels looking up at Marquette at #3 and seeing the Big East have more National Champions than any other conference since the realignment.
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Is the only good game tonight Colorado/Colorado St.?
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Virginia is up 11 on A&M.
I wonder how Buzz feels looking up at Marquette at #3 and seeing the Big East have more National Champions than any other conference since the realignment.
He doesn't seem like a guy that looks in the rearview much, especially if he's wrong.
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He doesn't seem like a guy that looks in the rearview much, especially if he's wrong.
He’ll just get Goodman to write a story about how he never wanted to leave Marquette.
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Not at all. WTF???
No worries Muggsy, they're still a very fine institution. Good for student athletes, good for BE.
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He doesn't seem like a guy that looks in the rearview much, especially if he's wrong.
That could mess with his happy.
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He’ll just get Goodman to write a story about how he never wanted to leave Marquette.
Lol. "Buzz would walk to UCLA if he was offered the job.," Jeff Goodman in Buzz' 4th year at MU.
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That could mess with his happy.
Say what you will about Buzz, but not many are as good at covering up sexual assault as him
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Georgetown v Merrimack in front of a
“ crowd “ of 500 (?) ….
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Georgetown v Merrimack in front of a
“ crowd “ of 500 (?) ….
Get rid of Gtown and DePaul and add which teams to the BEast?
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Get rid of Gtown and DePaul and add which teams to the BEast?
St Louis & Dayton
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Georgetown v Merrimack in front of a
“ crowd “ of 500 (?) ….
Talk about fs1 having literally nothing else to broadcast lmao.
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Say what you will about Buzz, but not many are as good at covering up sexual assault as him
This is absolutely true.
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St Louis & Dayton
In light of the Cali teams and Oregon &Wash heading to the B18 can we not add Gonzaga and perhaps SMC?
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In light of the Cali teams and Oregon &Wash heading to the B18 can we not add Gonzaga and perhaps SMC?
Gonzaga? Sure. St. Mary’s? Hard pass.
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In light of the Cali teams and Oregon &Wash heading to the B18 can we not add Gonzaga and perhaps SMC?
I go St Thomas, easier to schedule
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I go St Thomas, easier to schedule
I’d add Holy Cross and UNLV
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Tennessee with an impressive comeback at Carolina - got it down to 10.
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I’d add Holy Cross and UNLV
Solid
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Georgetown v Merrimack in front of a
“ crowd “ of 500 (?) ….
Plenty of good seats still available!
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A sweet little school and its name is Merrimack
Make no mistake the teams wanna attack
Lots of other players try to put them on their back
I'm thinking they will have to get up early
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St Louis & Dayton
How about Dayton wins an abysmal Atlantic 10 consistently first. As far as SLU, we should try to be more like them, not vice versa!
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Tenn's season is over of that's a serious injury.
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Georgetown v Merrimack in front of a
“ crowd “ of 500 (?) ….
This is what happens when you burn out a fan base.
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Why exactly is Tex A&M ranked 14th?
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Duke doesn't look particularly good.
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Is the only good game tonight Colorado/Colorado St.?
You're not enjoying the Razorbacks smacking Duke around despite not having their best player available?
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You're not enjoying the Razorbacks smacking Duke around despite not having their best player available?
I just saw that their best player is out. This is enjoyable.
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A sweet little school and its name is Merrimack
Make no mistake the teams wanna attack
Lots of other players try to put them on their back
I'm thinking they will have to get up early
Merrimack's AD is making Merrimack play Cooley
Cooleys' AD is making Cooley play Merrimack
Well Cooley's gonna play Merri cause Merri taking care of Cooley
We'll all be feeling merry if Cooley beats Merrimack
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I said it weeks ago and Ill still say it
Duke has end of the year potential. But they were a 5 seed that played in a brutal ACC last year.
Absolutely laughable that they started the year ranked 2nd. When teams right behind them lost similar/retained similar talent and were objectively significantly better last year
IE us, Houston, Uconn, Creighton
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Complete meltdown from Arkansas!! Hopefully they hold on.
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I don't get this court storming.
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College kids having fun after their team beats the big, bad Dookies.
What don't you get?
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Funny, but MU is now in position to see a court storming if we lose an away game…and I think our guys will do everything in their power to avoid that happening.
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Duke is perhaps the most egregiously overrated team in years. They have no business in the top 10, let alone top 5.
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Funny, but MU is now in position to see a court storming if we lose an away game…and I think our guys will do everything in their power to avoid that happening.
In the unlikely event we lose Saturday, there will be no court storming in Madison.
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Duke is perhaps the most egregiously overrated team in years. They have no business in the top 10, let alone top 5.
You’re forgetting about Michigan State already.
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You’re forgetting about Michigan State already.
Highly overrated, but not gilded in the preseason like Duke was this offseason. Sports media just can't get away from them. I've probably posted this here before, but I think the jury is still way out on Jon Scheyer. He has a better chance of being fired this decade than winning a NC.
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This is a night when it really sucks to be ranked so high in the AP poll: 4 top 20 teams lost. Definite opportunity for others to move up.
Marquette unfortunately only has two teams it can benefit from screwing up.
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Merrimack's AD is making Merrimack play Cooley
Cooleys' AD is making Cooley play Merrimack
Well Cooley's gonna play Merri cause Merri taking care of Cooley
We'll all be feeling merry if Cooley beats Merrimack
There it is. I am glad somebody got it.
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Games of the Day brought to you by the ghost of Henry Kissinger who reminds you, illegal wars aren’t illegal if you believe they aren’t:
Warren Wilson at Elon at 6PM on FloH
Shawnee State at Kent State at 6PM on ESPN+
The Apprentice School at Longwood at 6PM on ESPN+
Hannibal-LaGrange at Western Illinois at 7PM on ESPN+
Rocky Mountain at Montana State at 8PM on ESPN+
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Games of the Day brought to you by the ghost of Henry Kissinger who reminds you, illegal wars aren’t illegal if you believe they aren’t:
Warren Wilson at Elon at 6PM on FloH
Shawnee State at Kent State at 6PM on ESPN+
The Apprentice School at Longwood at 6PM on ESPN+
Hannibal-LaGrange at Western Illinois at 7PM on ESPN+
Rocky Mountain at Montana State at 8PM on ESPN+
Elon’s gonna play against one guy?
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In the unlikely event we lose Saturday, there will be no court storming in Madison.
How about if we win? Can our fanbase storm the Madison court?
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The only teams that have truly good wins as of now are Marquette and Purdue. IMO you cannot include Duke Zona in the mix yet as they haven't beaten anyone. Dukes best win is a natural site win to 3-3 MSU who has beaten no one yet and Zonas best win is Duke. I honestly think this is the year the Big East can get two one seeds.
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Elon’s gonna play against one guy?
It's 1 v. 1 and Musk is going to start with a Davison nutpunch and then call it blackmail when Warren refuses to give him all their baskets.
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The only teams that have truly good wins as of now are Marquette and Purdue. IMO you cannot include Duke Zona in the mix yet as they haven't beaten anyone. Dukes best win is a natural site win to 3-3 MSU who has beaten no one yet and Zonas best win is Duke. I honestly think this is the year the Big East can get two one seeds.
You may be right on that. Arkansas is not particularly good this year.
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You may be right on that. Arkansas is not particularly good this year.
They were also missing their best player. I think court storms should be for major upsets, just my take.
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They were also missing their best player. I think court storms should be for major upsets, just my take.
Agreed. A P6 school (except DePaul) should not rush the court after beating #7. Kind of takes the luster off a court storming. Oh well, not a very important issue and the kids had fun.
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Highly overrated, but not gilded in the preseason like Duke was this offseason. Sports media just can't get away from them. I've probably posted this here before, but I think the jury is still way out on Jon Scheyer. He has a better chance of being fired this decade than winning a NC.
Scheyer has done a good job of capitalizing off of the Coach K aura in regards to recruiting, but once that wears off, he will be seen as an average coach at best.
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Scheyer has done a good job of capitalizing off of the Coach K aura in regards to recruiting, but once that wears off, he will be seen as an average coach at best.
Well, he gets Flagg and like 4 other top 10 recruits next year. By all accounts CF is the real deal. It's going to be hard for Scheyer to completely screw next year up.
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They were also missing their best player. I think court storms should be for major upsets, just my take.
If you were an Arkansas undergrad, rather than an older guy posting on the interwebs, you'd have gleefully stormed the court.
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Elon’s gonna play against one guy?
We may not get the cage match we were promised but I'm glad Elon is finally going to fight somebody
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Well, he gets Flagg and like 4 other top 10 recruits next year. By all accounts CF is the real deal. It's going to be hard for Scheyer to completely screw next year up.
It will be interesting to see how the NIL strategies play out. Shaka and Izzo are leaning more toward culture and development. Duke more one and done. UCLA more international. Kansas more pay for top transfers blended in with high recruits mix. Purdue development within system with players who fit the system. Huggy went more toward pay for play transfers before his drunken meanderings.
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If you were an Arkansas undergrad, rather than an older guy posting on the interwebs, you'd have gleefully stormed the court.
As has been mentioned here before, in 1989 we stormed the court following a win against an ND team that had a losing record at the time. I'm not proud of that fact, but it was a hell of a lot of fun. College kids are looking for an excuse to storm the court...sometimes their criteria don't quite live up to the august standards set by Scoopers.
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As has been mentioned here before, in 1989 we stormed the court following a win against an ND team that had a losing record at the time. I'm not proud of that fact, but it was a hell of a lot of fun. College kids are looking for an excuse to storm the court...sometimes their criteria don't quite live up to the august standards set by Scoopers.
Oh I am completely proud of storming the court against ND in 1989.
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Oh I am completely proud of storming the court against ND in 1989.
Sounds ridiculous now, and perhaps it was, but it demonstrates the depth of where the program was at the time; hard to fathom now. Thank God for Kevin O'Neill on the heels of the Dukiet Debacle. Watershed hire for the program.
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Sounds ridiculous now, and perhaps it was, but it demonstrates the depth of where the program was at the time; hard to fathom now. Thank God for Kevin O'Neill on the heels of the Dukiet Debacle. Watershed hire for the program.
I believe MU was something like 1-10 against UW, ND and DePaul the two prior seasons. Getting the Piano Man out of there and getting O'Neill's in the door, with his energy and his early recruiting wins, was very cathartic. And then they whomped up on the Domers the Saturday before finals. The court storming was a release.
Hell the next week they gave top 10, defending champion Michigan a decent game and the post-game parties around campus were insane.
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I believe MU was something like 1-10 against UW, ND and DePaul the two prior seasons. Getting the Piano Man out of there and getting O'Neill's in the door, with his energy and his early recruiting wins, was very cathartic. And then they whomped up on the Domers the Saturday before finals. The court storming was a release.
Hell the next week they gave top 10, defending champion Michigan a decent game and the post-game parties around campus were insane.
Good times!
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Sounds ridiculous now, and perhaps it was, but it demonstrates the depth of where the program was at the time; hard to fathom now. Thank God for Kevin O'Neill on the heels of the Dukiet Debacle. Watershed hire for the program.
I’m still slightly traumatized from the Dukeit era. One of my buddies made ‘Dukiet Farewell Tour” t-shirts that I proudly wore around campus.
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I’m still slightly traumatized from the Dukeit era. One of my buddies made ‘Dukiet Farewell Tour” t-shirts that I proudly wore around campus.
I view that time as formative of the detached cynicism that is older Gen X.
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I’m still slightly traumatized from the Dukeit era. One of my buddies made ‘Dukiet Farewell Tour” t-shirts that I proudly wore around campus.
I'm fairly sure that my four years at MU (87-91) were the worst four-year stretch of MU basketball since at least at the 1940s. They were 49-65 (0.430). Ugh!
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Notwithstanding their loss to Bryant, FAU is pretty damn good. I see that Liberty was given death.
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Whoooàahhhh. Muggsy just made a joke.
Bravo.
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I view that time as formative of the detached cynicism that is older Gen X.
You had me at cynicism.
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Games of the Day brought to you by our good friends Lenny’s Tap:
Carolina Christian at Queens University at 11AM on ESPN+
SUNY-Maritime at Army at 5PM on ESPN+
Johnson University at UNC-Asheville at 5:30PM on ESPN+
Lake Superior at Eastern Michigan at 6PM on ESPN+
Peace at UNC-Greensboro at 6PM on ESPN+
Iowa State at DePaul at 7:30PM on FS1
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I am surprised that fill in the blank Christian would associate with Queens.
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Games of the Day brought to you by our good friends Lenny’s Tap:
Carolina Christian at Queens University at 11AM on ESPN+
SUNY-Maritime at Army at 5PM on ESPN+
Johnson University at UNC-Asheville at 5:30PM on ESPN+
Lake Superior at Eastern Michigan at 6PM on ESPN+
Peace at UNC-Greensboro at 6PM on ESPN+
Iowa State at DePaul at 7:30PM on FS1
Nice try. You expect me to believe there's an actual college named "DePaul?"
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And good for UNC-Greensboro for finding Peace. Something we should all strive for.
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And good for UNC-Greensboro for finding Peace. Something we should all strive for.
Scoop is the wrong place to look for peace.
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We cheering for Uconn or Kansas tonight?
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You could make an argument for either. For me, UConn. I want our 3 wins against them to look stellar on selection Sunday
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No. ;D
Clingan vs Dickinson should be fun. UConn has depth.
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We cheering for Uconn or Kansas tonight?
Definitely UConn. Big 12 refs will hand KU that league so that win is going to age like fine wine regardless of tonight.
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True. And it will be awesome to say Kansas would no better than the third best team in the Big East.
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UCONN…
Tho I hate both teams and their coaches
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Definitely UConn. Big 12 refs will hand KU that league so that win is going to age like fine wine regardless of tonight.
Ah, yes. The refs will hand it to them
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We cheering for Uconn or Kansas tonight?
100% rooting for UCONN. I don't know if Castle is playing tonight but he will be when we play them in Feb & March.
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Ah, yes. The refs will hand it to them
Even Bill knows: https://x.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1714697819787771989?s=20
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Even Bill knows: https://x.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1714697819787771989?s=20
The other teams should be better
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No. ;D
Clingan vs Dickinson should be fun. UConn has depth.
Clingan vs Dickinson will be fun, but I am more intrigued of Samson Johnson vs Dickinson to be honest. Johnson is uber athletic and will give Hunter tons of problems.
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Jump around guy has competition from FAU and Boca Raton's mayor.
https://x.com/FAUAthletics/status/1730382408485122483?s=20
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Not exactly a riveting performance by UCLA yesterday.
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Nor exactly a riveting performance by UCLA yesterday.
Agree - beating UC Riverside by 1 is not ideal. It will be interesting to see how UCLA plays at Villanova on Dec 9th.
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UCLA has some real good talent, but they're very young. That's a recipe for lack of consistent performance - they'll have some great wins (and good losses, such as to MU), and some head-scratchin' bad results too.
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There's something called the "Maui Hangover" for a reason. It's real. Kansas, UCLA, Tennessee all looked bad in their first game back after the Maui Invite.
The good news is we don't need UCLA to get MU into the NCAA Tournament. We'll be fine regardless of how they are.
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Fun fact:
Not only are Kansas and UConn the last two national champs, but both can say that their last loss was to Marquette!
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Clingan vs Dickinson will be fun, but I am more intrigued of Samson Johnson vs Dickinson to be honest. Johnson is uber athletic and will give Hunter tons of problems.
Sounds like a sword fight
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Purdue and Northwestern tied. I wish they were 4-15 from three vs us.
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Tristen Newton is a problem. That kid is ballin’ out of his mind tonight.
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Purdue and Northwestern tied. I wish they were 4-15 from three vs us.
Purdue’s got their hands full tonite. It they shot threes like that against us, we boat-race them.
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Wow. OT in Evanston.
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Edey is a cheat code.
Purude down 2 with 3.9 left inbounding under their own hoop.
Chuck it deep to Edey. Call time out.
2.7 left throw an inbounds lob to Edey. Go to OT.
Unreal.
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Buie is a terrific college player. They can't guard the guy at all.
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Purdue guards turning it over horribly in OT. You have a 7'4 guy. Cant throw it away.
Now NU fouls the 3 point shooter up 4.
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NW does it again.
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Purdue guards turning it over horribly in OT. You have a 7'4 guy. Cant throw it away.
Now NU fouls the 3 point shooter up 4.
I know this is a new year but I don't trust Purdue come tournament time.
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Southern as the only matchup in the 11 days between Maui and Wisconsin was a very nice piece of scheduling for MU.
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I know this is a new year but I don't trust Purdue come tournament time.
You pressure their guards and they’re toast.
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You pressure their guards and they’re toast.
That's definitely part of it. Also, against good teams if they don't make 3's they have major probs. Smith and Loyer played great against MU but I just don't see them having 4, 5, or 6 great games in a row. Lastly, I don't think they're great defensively.
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The truth is, like last year, there isn't a dominant team. UCONN dominated the tournament but remember they were a 4 seed. Having now watched all the top teams I'm not so sure that our A game isn't the best in tbe country.
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I was flipping back and forth between UConn-Kansas and Pac-12 championship. Didn't even know Purdue and NW were playing until I saw it on the bottom line of one of those games. So then I had to watch all 3. Really fun night of sports television.
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MU's top 3 is the most dangerous in the country. I'm very confident saying that and wouldn't trade them for the word. What we need is consistency from guys 4-8 or 9. I also like that we take care of the basketball and are experienced. When it's all said and done, if we're healthy and Oso can stay on the floor, the opportunity will be there to get back to the promised land. Whether we stay on the 1 line or not in mid March.
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MU's top 3 is the most dangerous in the country. I'm very confident saying that and wouldn't trade them for the word. What we need is consistency from guys 4-8 or 9. I also like that we take care of the basketball and are experienced. When it's all said and done, if we're healthy and Oso can stay on the floor, the opportunity will be there to get back to the promised land. Whether we stay on the 1 line or not in mid March.
The ceiling for this team is extremely high.
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NW does it again.
3 point shooting was flipped and the opposite in the NW vs Purdue game. NW 10/20 from 3 Purdue 5/19 from 3.
Purdue shot 10/21 from 3 against MU and MU shot 5/17 from 3 and we only lost by 3 points. Provides hope.
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The ceiling for this team is extremely high.
Agreed. Of course I remember the Wade 3 phantom fouls (in like 7 mins) in 2001 so I'm a little nervous about tomorrow.
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The ceiling for this team is extremely high.
Will get bounced early again because they can't shoot
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Will get bounced early again because they can't shoot
We may get bounced, but if facts matter it won’t be because we “can’t shoot”. We return all but one player from last year. That team was a better shooting team than UCONN, much better than San Diego St. And a little better overall than Florida Atlantic and Miami - last year’s final four.
By the numbers, MU shot .582 from 2, .353 from 3. UCONN was .536 and .353, San Diego St. Was .485 and .348 (really bad), Fl Atlantic was.545 and .366 and Miami was.538 and .368.
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MU wins today and they move up to
No. 2 …
Tho I pray I’m wrong… I honestly have bad feeling about today’s game.
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MU wins today and they move up to
No. 2 …
Tho I pray I’m wrong… I honestly have bad feeling about today’s game.
Not me
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Southern Virginia at Campbell at 1PM on FloH
University of Health and Sciences and Pharmacy in St. Louis Eutectics at Eastern Illinois at 2PM on ESPN+
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I like the new sponsor. Are they paying you more?
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I like the new sponsor. Are they paying you more?
No, dentists are cheap
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Dentists are the sponsors at Wando’s today. Big thanks to all the MU dentists out there!
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Southern Virginia at Campbell at 1PM on FloH
University of Health and Sciences and Pharmacy in St. Louis Eutectics at Eastern Illinois at 2PM on ESPN+
MU should merge with U HSP St. Louis and bring med school back
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Not me
Looking forward to stumping of rodents
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Looking forward to stumping of rodents
By asking them what a fast break is?
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By asking them what a fast break is?
;D
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By asking them what a fast break is?
Score
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Why Jop??? Move the fking basketball!! And we must rebound.
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Could be the weekend of upsets. Duke down 2 to gt with 22 secs left
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Illinois blew out Rutgers in NJ.
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UNCW!!! They're on the verge of beating Kentucky!
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UNCW!!! They're on the verge of beating Kentucky!
Its over
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Its over
The Seahawks lost by 30 to App. St.
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See guy crap happens. Good teams lose all the time to teams they shouldn’t. We have waited way too long for this season to be sour over a game that frankly doesn’t matter.
Let’s stay positive and beat Texas
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MU should merge with U HSP St. Louis and bring med school back
The story there is the pharmacy school changed their name from their well known previous name.
From 1864-2020, they were previously called: Saint Louis College of Pharmacy, or,
much better known as…STLCOP.
They decided to change their name a few years back to something no one knows or remembers. They are still the Eutectics.
Their big controversy in recent years was adding an additional year to their program. It’s one of those schools where you can complete the coursework in less years than doing a separate bachelors and pharmacy program…like a 6 year combined dental/medical program. UMKC Kangaroos are well known for those two programs.
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The story there is the pharmacy school changed their name from their well known previous name.
From 1864-2020, they were previously called: Saint Louis College of Pharmacy, or,
much better known as…STLCOP.
They decided to change their name a few years back to something no one knows or remembers. They are still the Eutectics.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cvyrps5WEAIgxB2.jpg)
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I liked how Anonymous Eagle compared Badger fans to St. Louis fans.
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I liked how Anonymous Eagle compared Badger fans to St. Louis fans.
Did they have a “Sparty” reference too?
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I don't recall.
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Virginia-Lynchburg at Hampton at 2PM on FloH
Mississippi University for Women at Alabama State at 3PM on YT
Alice Lloyd at Tennessee Tech at 3PM on ESPN+
Stanton at Cal-State Fullerton at 4PM on ESPN+
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Navy up 12-6 over Coppin State with 12:32 left in the first half
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Tulane beats Fordham 89-81
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Southern 60, #21 Mississippi State 59 final.
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Southern 60, #21 Mississippi State 59 final.
Nice.
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Southern 60, #21 Mississippi State 59 final.
FWIW
11/8/23
Southern 85
UNLV. 71
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Southern 60, #21 Mississippi State 59 final.
Just absolutely wild..
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Sam Houston State up by 30 over Lamar
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Sam Houston State up by 30 over Lamar
Jeffrey Anderson doing that game, too?
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St. Andrews Presbyterian at Coastal Carolina at 6PM on ESPN+
Western New Mexico at UTEP at 8PM on ESPN+
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Go, Chanticleers.
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My buddy, an App State alum, was at App's win over Auburn yesterday ... but he didn't storm the court with the students.
Always nice seeing Bruce Pearl lose, though Auburn does get credit for being willing to play at App State. This kind of result is why P6 schools would rather not go on the road for these kinds of games.
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My buddy, an App State alum, was at App's win over Auburn yesterday ... but he didn't storm the court with the students.
Always nice seeing Bruce Pearl lose, though Auburn does get credit for being willing to play at App State. This kind of result is why P6 schools would rather not go on the road for these kinds of games.
I live in Blowing Rock. Watched the App win and court storming on TV. App's got a pretty good athletic program in both football and basketball. Seem to give the big boys trouble in both sports. May have to get over to their arena to watch a game. It's a pretty nice facility. And yah, liked seeing Bruce's team go down.
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I live in Blowing Rock. Watched the App win and court storming on TV. App's got a pretty good athletic program in both football and basketball. Seem to give the big boys trouble in both sports. May have to get over to their arena to watch a game. It's a pretty nice facility. And yah, liked seeing Bruce's team go down.
More of a football school, as you well know, but I think the hoops program has come on more recently.
Boone is such a great setting for a college.
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Purdue up 21 over Iowa at the half.
Coastal Carolina is poleaxing St. Andrews Presbyterian by 24 at half
East Carolina picked up a huge win for the AAC by beating Maryland-Eastern Shore
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Purdue up 21 over Iowa at the half.
Coastal Carolina is poleaxing St. Andrews Presbyterian by 24 at half
East Carolina picked up a huge win for the AAC by beating Maryland-Eastern Shore
Chanticleers must be respected.
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Purdue up 21 over Iowa at the half.
Coastal Carolina is poleaxing St. Andrews Presbyterian by 24 at half
East Carolina picked up a huge win for the AAC by beating Maryland-Eastern Shore
Was expecting a much better effort from Iowa.
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New College of Florida at Florida Gulf Coast at 6PM on ESPN+
Champion Baptist at Louisiana-Monroe at 6:30PM on ESPN+
Central Penn College at Appalachian State at 7PM on ESPN+
Mississippi University for Women at McNeese State at 7PM on ESPN+
South Dakota Mines at Wyoming at 7:30 on MWN
Occidental at UC-San Diego at 8PM on ESPN+
Whittier at Cal State-Bakersfield at 9PM on ESPN+
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Badgers rolling Michigan State in East Lansing.
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A bad joke putting that on Peacock. What is the point of having a network if you are going to show games on Peacock while showing a football rerun?
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Badgers rolling Michigan State in East Lansing.
Michigan St. is not good despite their preseason ranking.
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A bad joke putting that on Peacock. What is the point of having a network if you are going to show games on Peacock while showing a football rerun?
It’s part of the deal the Big 10 made when they sold their soul to NBC.
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Shooting 3's poorly so far this season.
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Michigan St. is not good despite their preseason ranking.
They’ll always be ranked every preseason because of Izzo.
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Michigan St. is not good despite their preseason ranking.
Joey Hauser is a program killer
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Joey Hauser is a program killer
Did he write another letter? 🧐
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Joey Hauser is a program killer
Izzo to the G-League?
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Izzo to the G-League?
Just didn’t buy the Spartans hype heading into the year
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Illinois up 4 on FAU with 1:30 to go.
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Aj storr of the badgers is a stud. Single handedly winning the game for them.
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Klesmit with 0 in that one...classic.
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Klesmit with 0 in that one...classic.
Michigan St probably guarded him.
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Illinois up 4 on FAU with 1:30 to go.
The Illinois win is gonna look better and better as the season moves along.
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Michigan St probably guarded him.
Mich St. may sneak into the NIT.
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Mich St. may sneak into the NIT.
They just need to win 15 games max and committee will put them in. Nice win for badgers. Hate to say it, but they are very good this year.
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They just need to win 15 games max and committee will put them in. Nice win for badgers. Hate to say it, but they are very good this year.
I said before the debacle on Saturday that they're a pretty solid team. But the truth is Mich St. hasn't been remotely impressive.
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Will be interesting to see how they play against Arizona. I think they are solid as well but might crack top 10?
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Porter Moser, AKA "Mike Deane 2.0", is now coaching an 8-0 ranked team.
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A bad joke putting that on Peacock. What is the point of having a network if you are going to show games on Peacock while showing a football rerun?
Well, NBC paid 350 million for the Big Ten rights. On the basketball side. 47 regular-season men’s basketball games (32 conference and 15 non-conference) and 30 regular-season women’s basketball games (20 conference and 10 non-conference).
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Connor Essegian is barely playing. 4 minutes tonight vs Sparty. What’s going on?
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Connor Essegian is barely playing. 4 minutes tonight vs Sparty. What’s going on?
I think he’s been hurt?
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Storr was a perfect addition for Wisconsin. Single-handedly adds another dimension to their offense.
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I think he’s been hurt?
Based on Gard's comments, I think it's something else.
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Connor Essegian is barely playing. 4 minutes tonight vs Sparty. What’s going on?
They’re moving away from traditionals
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The Illinois win is gonna look better and better as the season moves along.
Holy Domask
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Porter Moser, AKA "Mike Deane 2.0", is now coaching an 8-0 ranked team.
I admit Moser has Oklahoma off to a great start. Let's see how the year plays out.
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Connor Essegian is barely playing. 4 minutes tonight vs Sparty. What’s going on?
He’s been a little hurt but Blackwell and Storr are muchbetter and he is soft and a poor defender.
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Mich St. may sneak into the NIT.
They’re lost without Joey.
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I admit Moser has Oklahoma off to a great start. Let's see how the year plays out.
8-0 is 8-0...but...they've beaten three bubble teams, Texas State, and four sub-300 teams. To their credit, they've smoked every team they've played except USC. But I'd wait until they are winning conference games before crowning them.
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They’re lost without Joey.
So, you're saying that they are falling down?
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Harris Stowe at SE Missouri State at 6:30PM on ESPN+
Southwestern Adventist at Houston Baptist at 7PM on ESPN+
Coe College at Western Illinois at 7:00PM on ESPN+
DePaul at Texas A&M on SECN at 8PM
Life Pacific College at Long Beach State at 9PM on ESPN+
Lewis and Clark at Portland State at 9PM on ESPN+
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Harris Teeter vs Publix?
DePaul....and Buzz...
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Harris Stowe at SE Missouri State at 6:30PM on ESPN+
Southwestern Adventist at Houston Baptist at 7PM on ESPN+
Coe College at Western Illinois at 7:00PM on ESPN+
DePaul at Texas A&M on SECN at 8PM
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Lewis and Clark at Portland State at 9PM on ESPN+
Got a 20% discount on my scanner by mentioning Rico and MU Crime Report
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Got a 20% discount on my scanner by mentioning Rico and MU Crime Report
Awesome! Glad to hear it.
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Dayton's game tonight postponed.
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Rust College at North Alabama at 11AM on ESPN+
Must be a really old under the radar university.
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Dayton's game tonight postponed.
If only everyone in Las Vegas owned 100 guns, it would have never happened.
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If only everyone in Las Vegas owned 100 guns, it would have never happened.
Save it for the other board
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Save it for the other board
Or another site entirely.
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Hunter Dickinson is apparently still a colossal prick. Suspended 3 games.
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Hunter Dickinson is apparently still a colossal prick. Suspended 3 games.
Cmon mugs
Gotta research a bit before falling for bait
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Cmon mugs
Gotta research a bit before falling for bait
You sure about that?
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Hunter Dickinson is apparently still a colossal prick. Suspended 3 games.
Wow - the NCAA actually ruled against Kansas for something? The nerve…
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Hunter Dickinson is apparently still a colossal prick. Suspended 3 games.
Muggs fell for the fake John Rothstein account!
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I'm confused....he wasn't suspended?
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I'm confused....he wasn't suspended?
I mean like I said did you verify it anywhere?
A quick search of his name. ESPN. The actual real jon rothstein account or any other college bball insider
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I mean like I said did you verify it anywhere?
A quick search of his name. ESPN. The actual real jon rothstein account or any other college bball insider
lol, facts
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What a colossal prick ... for not being suspended.
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Colby-Sawyer at Yale at 6PM on ESPN+
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Colby-Sawyer at Yale at 6PM on ESPN+
Slow day, will have to get totally wasted.
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Colby-Sawyer at Yale at 6PM on ESPN+
Waiting for the famous alumni thread for Colby-Sawyer.
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UW vs Arizona at 3:15/2:15 on ESPN. I know the rivalry is much more intense for those of you who live in Wisconsin/Illinois than me here in Jersey, but I'm routing for UW to pull the upset.
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Waiting for the famous alumni thread for Colby-Sawyer.
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Bob Jones at Furman at 1PM on ESPN+
Cairn at Lehigh at 1PM on ESPN+
Louisville at DePaul at 1PM on FS1
Western Oregon at Boise State at 3PM on MWC
Elizabeth City State at Nicholls at 3PM on ESPN+
Spring Hill at South Alabama at 3PM on ESPN+
George Fox at Portland State at 4PM on ESPN+
Goshen at Loyola Chitown at 5PM on NBCS
Felician College at Merrimack at 6PM on ESPN+
Ozark Christian College at Oral Bob at 7PM on ESPN+
Northwest University at Seattle at 7PM on ESPN+
NW Nazarene at Utah State at 8PM on MWN
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UW vs Arizona at 3:15/2:15 on ESPN. I know the rivalry is much more intense for those of you who live in Wisconsin/Illinois than me here in Jersey, but I'm routing for UW to pull the upset.
Same here. Unlikely upset, but hope UW does well the remaining of the season for the sole purpose of helping mark down the L when the Selection Committee weighs in on Marquette. Otherwise, screw UW. Getting a #1 seed is far more important to me than the rivalry.
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MU doesn’t need any help. They control their own destiny. I hope Arizona wins by 50.
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Western Oregon at Boise State at 3PM on MWC
Elizabeth City State at Nicholls at 3PM on ESPN+
Spring Hill at South Alabama at 3PM on ESPN+
George Fox at Portland State at 4PM on ESPN+
Goshen at Loyola Chitown at 5PM on NBCS
Felician College at Merrimack at 6PM on ESPN+
Ozark Christian College at Oral Bob at 7PM on ESPN+
Northwest University at Seattle at 7PM on ESPN+
NW Nazarene at Utah State at 8PM on MWN
Wow extremely busy day!
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Wow extremely busy day!
Going to need the octo-box. Glad the new sponsor is giving away free ice cream to all scoopers. DM for the promotional code
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I look at it as win-win. If Arizona wins, cool, Madison sucks. If Madison wins, that can help MU.
As for other games, quite a clash of the titans at Wintrust. DePaul is actually favored.
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Western Oregon at Boise State at 3PM on MWC
Elizabeth City State at Nicholls at 3PM on ESPN+
Spring Hill at South Alabama at 3PM on ESPN+
George Fox at Portland State at 4PM on ESPN+
Goshen at Loyola Chitown at 5PM on NBCS
Felician College at Merrimack at 6PM on ESPN+
Ozark Christian College at Oral Bob at 7PM on ESPN+
Northwest University at Seattle at 7PM on ESPN+
NW Nazarene at Utah State at 8PM on MWN
How bored can someone be yikes
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Going to need the octo-box. Glad the new sponsor is giving away free ice cream to all scoopers. DM for the promotional code
Will do, thanks! Will help once I get the munchies.
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Dainja is listed at 269 lbs? More like 290 lbs?
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Illinois has talent but something is missing.
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Purdue getting smoked
By Alabama. Down 10 5 mins in
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Purdue getting smoked
By Alabama. Down 10 5 mins in
We should have beaten Purdue imo.
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MU doesn’t need any help. They control their own destiny. I hope Arizona wins by 50.
This
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We should have beaten Purdue imo.
March 31, 2024. Detroit, MI. That’s when we’ll beat them.
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Tennessee wins. Good result for the Badgers cause
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I will bet 1 million dollars that purdue doesnt win a title
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I will bet 1 million dollars that purdue doesnt win a title
They look bad defensively and one dimensional offensively.
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They look bad defensively and one dimensional offensively.
They aint good. They have a moutain thats a near cheat code in addition to the weak fouls he absorbs and his feet shuffling.
If Eddey is forced to dribble or anyone else has to make a play they are a disaster.
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They aint good. They have a moutain thats a near cheat code in addition to the weak fouls he absorbs and his feet shuffling.
If Eddey is forced to dribble or anyone else has to make a play they are a disaster.
I'm not sure I'd go that far but I don't trust that team in the tournament. Their guards are inconsistent and marginal defenders.
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Purdue will be fine.
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I'm not sure I'd go that far but I don't trust that team in the tournament. Their guards are inconsistent and marginal defenders.
I would go as far as to say take Eddey off that team and they get boat raced by the gophers.
Even the announcers on 3 occaisions have been befuddled by 3 fouls hes drawn.
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I would go as far as to say take Eddey off that team and they get boat raced by the gophers.
Even the announcers on 3 occaisions have been befuddled by 3 fouls hes drawn.
Maybe. 22-8 disparity in fouls. Oats looks extremely unhappy.
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Very frustrating that Purdue shot out of their ass vs us as well Klesmit's absurd 1st half.
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Purdue up now
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Purdue up now
I just read on scoop they’re not that good
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Purdue is good.
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Purdue is good.
No
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Purdue is good.
I’ve been told they’re overrated
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I’ve been told they’re overrated
"Look who told you"
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"Look who told you"
I don’t check sources
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I don’t check sources
"You do your own research?"
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Edey so used to not being called for anything hes shocked he gets called for a foul that should be a hook and hold
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This place is hilarious. Reading without knowing what is happening in the game, I would’ve thought Purdue was losing by what Texas was on Wednesday. Then I look at the score and they’re winning?
Purdue is a very, very good basketball team. Like a lot of teams, how far they go in March largely depends on their matchups.
Their guards are good but not great, and they have the best player in college basketball down low. And a very good coach.
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Yes.
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This place is hilarious. Reading without knowing what is happening in the game, I would’ve thought Purdue was losing by what Texas was on Wednesday. Then I look at the score and they’re winning?
Purdue is a very, very good basketball team. Like a lot of teams, how far they go in March largely depends on their matchups.
Their guards are good but not great, and they have the best player in college basketball down low. And a very good coach.
Yes on everything.
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This place is hilarious. Reading without knowing what is happening in the game, I would’ve thought Purdue was losing by what Texas was on Wednesday. Then I look at the score and they’re winning?
Purdue is a very, very good basketball team. Like a lot of teams, how far they go in March largely depends on their matchups.
They have been losing almost all game to a team that literally does not have a post presence(even before the foul trouble).
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This place is hilarious. Reading without knowing what is happening in the game, I would’ve thought Purdue was losing by what Texas was on Wednesday. Then I look at the score and they’re winning?
Purdue is a very, very good basketball team. Like a lot of teams, how far they go in March largely depends on their matchups.
Their guards are good but not great, and they have the best player in college basketball down low. And a very good coach.
Purdue and Painter have to win it all for people to appreciate how good they’ve been and how good of a coach he is.
He’s basically the new Jay Wright prior to 2016. He’s been to 4 Sweet 16’s in the last 7 years. Purdue has been to 13 in their history. They’ve been to 2 Final 4’s and none since 1980.
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Purdue and Painter have to win it all for people to appreciate how good they’ve been and how good of a coach he is.
He’s basically the new Jay Wright prior to 2016. He’s been to 4 Sweet 16’s in the last 7 years. Purdue has been to 13 in their history. They’ve been to 2 Final 4’s and none since 1980.
Yup. We think we have the second coming of Al on our bench yet outside of a miracle 5 game run in a Tourney they didn’t even deserve to make, Painter has been inarguably a far better coach than Shaka in their careers.
And we’re saying if anything outside of an Edey catch at the rim is a disaster while Braden Smith has 25 points, 8 assists, and 5 rebounds in the game lol.
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Will Edey play in the NBA? I'm having a hard time seeing it.
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Yup. We think we have the second coming of Al on our bench yet outside of a miracle 5 game run in a Tourney they didn’t even deserve to make, Painter has been inarguably a far better coach than Shaka in their careers.
And we’re saying if anything outside of an Edey catch at the rim is a disaster while Braden Smith has 25 points, 8 assists, and 5 rebounds in the game lol.
And the rest of the team has a collective 29 pts against an unrakned team that cant defend anyone.
But as you said, youre not even watching
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That crowd in Arizona is absolutely nuts right now
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Yup. We think we have the second coming of Al on our bench yet outside of a miracle 5 game run in a Tourney they didn’t even deserve to make, Painter has been inarguably a far better coach than Shaka in their careers.
And we’re saying if anything outside of an Edey catch at the rim is a disaster while Braden Smith has 25 points, 8 assists, and 5 rebounds in the game lol.
Painter and Purdue are a borderline miracle play away from a final 4 in 2019, too
Listen, I’ll laugh if they bomb out again in March and aren’t cheering for them by any stretch but this a good team that can cut the nets down
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Painter and Purdue are a borderline miracle play away from a final 4 in 2019, too
Listen, I’ll laugh if they bomb out again in March and aren’t cheering for them by any stretch but this a good team that can cut the nets down
That was one of the best games I’ve ever seen in my life.
And the rest of the team has a collective 29 pts against an unrakned team that cant defend anyone.
But as you said, youre not even watching
Right. And going to break 90 as a team.
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And the rest of the team has a collective 29 pts against an unrakned team that cant defend anyone.
But as you said, youre not even watching
"Time to forfeit your Knower of Ball card."
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Painter and Purdue are a borderline miracle play away from a final 4 in 2019, too
Listen, I’ll laugh if they bomb out again in March and aren’t cheering for them by any stretch but this a good team that can cut the nets down
I agree that they're good but I have major doubts they're a title contender. They don't defend particularly well and can be pressured and kick the ball away. Also, if Edey gets into foul trouble once they're not beating the best teams.
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That was one of the best games I’ve ever seen in my life.
Right. And going to break 90 as a team.
Against a D that has allowed over 80 4 times already coming into today.
With their only good performance against South Alabama
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I agree that they're good but I have major doubts they're a title contender. They don't defend particularly well and can be pressured and kick the ball away. Also, if Edey gets into four trouble once they're not beating the best teams.
If they aren’t a title contender then who is?
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Only 48 1st half points for Zona.
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"Time to forfeit your Knower of Ball card."
So the rest of Purdue did not have 29 pts? Or Alabama has a good defense? Alabama isnt unranked?
Curious what part of what I said is incorrect
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I agree that they're good but I have major doubts they're a title contender. They don't defend particularly well and can be pressured and kick the ball away. Also, if Edey gets into four trouble once they're not beating the best teams.
Yeah, they’re average at protecting the ball. However, they’re 21st (early in the season caveat) in defensive effective fg%. They can defend
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So the rest of Purdue did not have 29 pts? Or Alabama has a good defense? Alabama isnt unranked?
Curious what part of what I said is incorrect
That Purdue is not good. As bad a serious basketball take as has been posted on scoop.
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Against a D that has allowed over 80 4 times already coming into today.
With their only good performance against South Alabama
Marquette got 45 points from anyone not named Kam Jones (or 34 from anyone not named Kam Jones or Tyler Kolek) a week ago against an unranked team that gave up 75 to Arkansas State and 80 to Tennessee.
What’s your point? They’ve now beat Gonzaga, Tennessee, Marquette, and Alabama on neutral courts. The idea that they aren’t a good college basketball team is absolutely wild.
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That Purdue is not good. As bad a serious basketball take as has been posted on scoop.
But what you quoted was exactly what I said
Good try though
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I’ve heard Purdue would lose 9 out of 10 to DePaul. And they’d have cheated to win the one.
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But what you quoted was exactly what I said
Good try though
That is all you have? Sad.
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That is all you have? Sad.
Huh?
All I have is to say that what you quoted was all factually correct??
If we are saying things are "serious". You were serious in quoting that
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Yeah, they’re average at protecting the ball. However, they’re 21st (early in the season caveat) in defensive effective fg%. They can defend
On paper Purdue is absolutely a F4 threat and have been the last 2 seasons. That said I don't trust them when it matters. As far as "if they're aren't a threat, who is"? That's a tough one to answer. No one expected FAU and the Aztecs to be there last year. My contention is that UCONN has the most overall talent and a chance to be dominant. After them I don't see a team with that potential right now. I haven't really watched Houston much or Baylor but among the top teams I think probably Zona and then MU have the highest ceilings after UCONN. But my gut feeling is we could similarly have two surprise teams make the F4 like last year.
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That crowd in Arizona is absolutely nuts right now
Best home court out West. Fan base love their hoops.
They are a solid team. Tough matchup
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Badgers = Bad Loss
Best home court out West. Fan base love their hoops.
They are a solid team. Tough matchup
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Arizona is really good!
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On paper Purdue is absolutely a F4 threat and have been the last 2 seasons. That said I don't trust them when it matters. As far as "if they're aren't a threat, who is"? That's a tough one to answer. No one expected FAU and the Aztecs to be there last year. My contention is that UCONN has the most overall talent and a chance to be dominant. After them I don't see a team with that potential right now. I haven't really watched Houston much or Baylor but among the top teams I think probably Zona and then MU have the highest ceilings after UCONN. But my gut feeling is we could similarly have two surprise teams make the F4 like last year.
I don’t think it’s unfair to not trust Purdue. Whole lotta season to go to find out. I’m sure Purdue fans don’t trust Purdue, lol
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I hate to admit it but Blackwell has a ton of potential for the Rodents. Hopefully he transfers.
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Wiscy is phoning it in on defense. They know they are beaten.
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Wiscy is phoning it in on defense. They know they are beaten.
I’m so mad. Hurts our NET. Go Bucky
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Wiscy is phoning it in on defense. They know they are beaten.
I disagree Arizona has lots of firepower
Offensively
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Arizona is really good. All credit to them and they do have a ton of firepower. IMO, Wiscy looks like they know they are beaten on defense.
Arizona vs Purdue next weekend.
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Auburn hamblasted Indiana.
https://x.com/garyparrishcbs/status/1733608618841325975?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Wiscy is phoning it in on defense. They know they are beaten.
it’s beautiful (remember, hate over logic)
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Wiscy is phoning it in on defense. They know they are beaten.
Classic let down after playing their Super Bowl.
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I don’t think it’s unfair to not trust Purdue. Whole lotta season to go to find out. I’m sure Purdue fans don’t trust Purdue, lol
I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is just something that I don't love about watching Purdue, like this feeling that Painter constantly holds the reins too tightly. They are a very good team and he's a great coach who is gonna win 800+ games in West Lafayette unless he has health issues. But I just don't ever find myself rooting for them in neutral games.
I think it comes down to pace. They don't broadcast/scream slow tempo like UW or UVA, but they are pretty consistently averaging under 70 possessions a game. So you have a bunch of offensive talent that could get up and down and easily average 80+ a game, but Painter is content to keep that around 70 PPG. They are the quintessential score 55-60 by the under 12 TO in the second half, and then finish at 72 points if they are leading by 5-10 and just burn the end of games in boring fashion. Its inflated this year cause of the OT game and the high scoring/low defense opponents over the last few games, but it will creep down all year, especially in the B10, to that level again
Its not fun to watch, IMO, and is the sort of style that is susceptible in March as we've seen many times with them and other similar teams.
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I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is just something that I don't love about watching Purdue, like this feeling that Painter constantly holds the reins too tightly. They are a very good team and he's a great coach who is gonna win 800+ games in West Lafayette unless he has health issues. But I just don't ever find myself rooting for them in neutral games.
I think it is the puke gold color of their uniforms.
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8 Ts through 10 games for Musselman
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No
MU very bad....
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Gonzaga just lost. MU could conceivably move up to #6 but at worst will be #7.
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Gonzaga just lost. MU could conceivably move up to #6 but at worst will be #7.
MU didn't cover, no way
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Can you please include D 3 games thx
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Can you please include D 3 games thx
No
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That Purdue is not good. As bad a serious basketball take as has been posted on scoop.
lol agree - Purdue has been one of the best if not the best team in the country the last two seasons. That’s not some fluke because they have a really tall guy.
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I’ll get over it, but I admit I’m slightly sad to walk past the sports-themed gift shop at MKE and see a Madison section but not a single Marquette item.
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I’ll get over it, but I admit I’m slightly sad to walk past the sports-themed gift shop at MKE and see a Madison section but not a single Marquette item.
you were within the borders of Badger Nation. The people prefer RED.
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Badgers = Bad Loss
I rewatched our game vs RED last night after the ND game. I agree with your assessment.
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https://twitter.com/NDSUmbb/status/1733948763234787421/photo/1
https://twitter.com/ethanbecker21/status/1733956192404226363/photo/1
NDSU couldnt schedule anyone else?
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https://twitter.com/NDSUmbb/status/1733948763234787421/photo/1
https://twitter.com/ethanbecker21/status/1733956192404226363/photo/1
NDSU couldnt schedule anyone else?
Not even a NAIA school.
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I rewatched our game vs RED last night after the ND game. I agree with your assessment.
Completely agree - Storr gives Bucky a dimension they normally don’t have, but otherwise there are a slightly above average team at best. It was not a good loss.
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Its over a week later, with a top 20 win in between, and we're still debating the Wisconsin loss? Good lord people...move on.
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Memphis up a dozen over Texas A&M with 4 minutes left in College Station
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Memphis with a nice road win. Long Beach State continues its bizarro season with an overtime win over USC and Bronny
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Brutal non con for USC. MIght be tough to recover in Pac 12 play.
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Memphis with a nice road win. Long Beach State continues its bizarro season with an overtime win over USC and Bronny
As long as all players had fun, it's all good.
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Thank you Nebraska.
Sincerely,
Everyone.
Keep in mind Creighton won at Nebraska by 29. :)
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Thank you Nebraska.
Sincerely,
Everyone.
Keep in mind Creighton won at Nebraska by 29. :)
Sparty on life support
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No bueno.
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Sparty on life support
Has there been a top 5 preseason team that didn't make the tournament?
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Has there been a top 5 preseason team that didn't make the tournament?
Last year’s preseason number one. UNC.
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Has there been a top 5 preseason team that didn't make the tournament?
UNC was number 1 last year....
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UNC was number 1 last year....
Ty. But this is more surprising in light of Izzo's career.
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Izzo has plenty of slow starts. Most of his teams take early losses and come on strong late. This year I have yet to see a reason for optimism.
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Ty. But this is more surprising in light of Izzo's career.
UNC beat us in the tournament 2 years ago,didnt make the tourney the following year. Sparty beat us last year, look whats happening. I think teams will let us win the tourney this year.
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Who's the 2nd best B18 team? Illinois, Northwestern, or the rodents? Ty.
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Who's the 2nd best B18 team? Illinois, Northwestern, or the rodents? Ty.
Illinois?
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UNC beat us in the tournament 2 years ago,didnt make the tourney the following year. Sparty beat us last year, look whats happening. I think teams will let us win the tourney this year.
Nice.
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Has there been a top 5 preseason team that didn't make the tournament?
They miss hauser bad. He did a lot of little things for them and also was able to knock down the 3.
Also I wasn’t in love with their pre season hype. They were a 7 seed in the tournament who beat a Marquette w a clearly banged up Kolek to get to the s16.
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Illinois?
Maybe....but could it be NW?
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Has there been a top 5 preseason team that didn't make the tournament?
UNC was number 1 last year....
Ty. But this is more surprising in light of Izzo's career.
"OMG, that's amazing!!!1! Has that ever happened before?!!"
"Yeah. Last season."
"But it's a lot more amazing this year!!"
Gotta love Muggsy. Such an unusual mix of enthusiasm and cluelessness. I'll admit that I'd watch if a documentary crew followed him around for a few days. I imagine him opening his shades in the morning, "Wow! Look at that glowing yellow ball in the sky!!! It's hard to look at. Have you ever seen anything like that before?!!"
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Yeah I am not sure how the defending national runner-up, who was returning pretty much all but one of their contributors, and was the pre-season #1, is less shocking than this year's MSU team, but I guess its just Muggsy being Muggsy.
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Yeah I am not sure how the defending national runner-up, who was returning pretty much all but one of their contributors, and was the pre-season #1, is less shocking than this year's MSU team, but I guess its just Muggsy being Muggsy.
My thoughts exactly.
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Yeah I am not sure how the defending national runner-up, who was returning pretty much all but one of their contributors, and was the pre-season #1, is less shocking than this year's MSU team, but I guess its just Muggsy being Muggsy.
It's called a complete analysis. UNC is coached by Hubert Davis, Mich St. by Tom Izzo. Night and day pedigree.
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The same Hubert Davis that lead them to the Final Four the year prior.
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The same Hubert Davis that lead them to the Final Four the year prior.
Hell, the title game that they also had a big lead in.
that UNC team had much more business being ranked where they were
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The same Hubert Davis that lead virtually the exact same teamthem to the Final Four the year prior.
Fixed that for you.
Night and day...
I agree. UNC not making the tournament after making it to the final game with almost the exact same team is far more surprising that the fighting Izzos potentially not making the tournament.
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https://twitter.com/roundballpod/status/1733984088443220099
First time Im seeing this kid. What the hell.
Got some sick stats so far this year and was nice last year.
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https://twitter.com/roundballpod/status/1733984088443220099
First time Im seeing this kid. What the hell.
Got some sick stats so far this year and was nice last year.
Surprised a Wardle-coached defense is letting him abuse them
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https://twitter.com/roundballpod/status/1733984088443220099
First time Im seeing this kid. What the hell.
Got some sick stats so far this year and was nice last year.
Averaging 16.6 points, 6 rebounds, and 3.8 assists per game with 40% 3P shooting. Basically Oso three point shooting
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When's the Sterling @ Waldorf match-up for a really high class game.
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Least shocking news ever
Tomlin the dude kicked off Kstate ends up at Memphis
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Least shocking news ever
Tomlin the dude kicked off Kstate ends up at Memphis
Alabama was my second guess, Kansas third. But Memphis checks out as well.
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Was just looking at the Net Ranking and T-Rank. Surprisingly enough the Big 10 has every team in the top 100 in both except for Penn St who is at 111 I believe. This causes almost every game to fall into a quad 1 or quad 2 game. Very interesting as it seems the top few teams can pack there resumes and even middle of the road teams can secure wins worth more than other conferences. Most likely see 8-9 teams in even with a down year.
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Least shocking news ever
Tomlin the dude kicked off Kstate ends up at Memphis
If he assimilates into that team well, Memphis is going to be a tough out in March.
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Was just looking at the Net Ranking and T-Rank. Surprisingly enough the Big 10 has every team in the top 100 in both except for Penn St who is at 111 I believe. This causes almost every game to fall into a quad 1 or quad 2 game. Very interesting as it seems the top few teams can pack there resumes and even middle of the road teams can secure wins worth more than other conferences. Most likely see 8-9 teams in even with a down year.
Do you mean Kenpom instead of NET?
Because the current NET rankings include:
123 Indiana
135 Penn St
153 Maryland
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If he assimilates into that team well, Memphis is going to be a tough out in March.
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Yes they will hes a nice player. And they are an old experienced team.
Wild cause they also tried to have a damn 27 year old be eligible for another year too
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Do you mean Kenpom instead of NET?
Because the current NET rankings include:
123 Indiana
135 Penn St
153 Maryland
Yes, Kenpom and T-Rank. Not sure why I typed Net
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When's the Sterling @ Waldorf match-up for a really high class game.
Yes, they could write Astoria bout it.
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How a Milwaukee native ended up at Marquette, teaching the team's freshmen about his hometown (https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2023/12/13/marquette-golden-eagles-basketball-assistant-chris-howell-shares-milwaukee-city-knowledge/71897184007/)
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Yes, they could write Astoria bout it.
I mean that’s just clever
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When's the Sterling @ Waldorf match-up for a really high class game.
(https://media.tenor.com/AzZrT_IWqSoAAAAC/muppet-show-statler-and-waldorf.gif)
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Another stellar day for the Louisville basketball program.
https://twitter.com/KoronDavis/status/1735041567113584943
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Mark it down now, Louisville will fire Payne and hire Chris Beard. Back to elite status in 2, at most 3 years.
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Hannibal Lector’s shelf life would be short, even in the cess pool that is Louisville.
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Northwestern struggling at home against Chicago State.
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Mississippi St leads Murray St. 75-73 with under 4 minutes to go.
Edit: Mississippi wins 85-81 final.
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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a0/66/62/a0666248a5db457a736a8957258859fd.jpg)
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Abysmal half for Creighton.
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Abysmal half for Creighton.
CU sure likes to jack up threes, not working out so far.
UNLV point guard, Deban Thomas, 2023 former top 40 recruit is a stud.
Pete Gillen, without a doubt, to include Steve Lappas, is the worst color analyst in basketball. Just annoying, repetitive comments.
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Oh Northwestern…
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Wow just wow. Chi St pulls off a stunner!
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That's why we don't play UWM.
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That's why we don't play UWM.
I thought it was because UWM couldn't afford the travel costs due to budget cuts.
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Oh Northwestern…
The Hoffman Estates Bulls may have an opening.
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I thought it was because UWM couldn't afford the travel costs due to budget cuts.
No, Marquette is afraid of losing to them
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Mark it down now, Louisville will fire Payne and hire Chris Beard. Back to elite status in 2, at most 3 years.
I saw on Twitter, I forget which account, that it’s Mick Cronin’s job if he wants it. The same account said Tang from K-State would be considered an option if Cronin declines. Although I think a guy who was an assistant for 20 years will show more loyalty than bailing after 2 at K St
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I know a couple of guys who are big KSU fans and know Tang. They say there is no way he leaves and has a very, very good thing at KSU. They describe it as similar to MU and Shaka. I can definitely see Beard at Louisville.
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I saw on Twitter, I forget which account, that it’s Mick Cronin’s job if he wants it. The same account said Tang from K-State would be considered an option if Cronin declines. Although I think a guy who was an assistant for 20 years will show more loyalty than bailing after 2 at K St
i know he's got a real good thing going at grand canyon state, but ya gotta think some of these schools be looking at bryce drew. plus it gets him back closer to home. just sayin, cuz i know he's having the time of his life growing gcu from nothing into the new witchita st
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Northwestern dropped 36 spots in the NET
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After losing at home to arguably the worst D1 basketball program of the last half-century, I guess we should hold off on crowning Northwestern's azz and putting up a statue of Chris Collins.
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So STU > CSU > NW > PU > MU
Marquette is worse than the team that's worse than the team that's worse than the team that lost to STU.
Muggy's right, better throw in the towel.
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Where does Radford fit in the equation - then we will know for sure...
So STU > CSU > NW > PU > MU
Marquette is worse than the team that's worse than the team that's worse than the team that lost to STU.
Muggy's right, better throw in the towel.
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I saw on Twitter, I forget which account, that it’s Mick Cronin’s job if he wants it. The same account said Tang from K-State would be considered an option if Cronin declines. Although I think a guy who was an assistant for 20 years will show more loyalty than bailing after 2 at K St
Why would Cronin leave UCLA, now that they'll be in the B1G next season? I'm sure UCLA would match L'ville if it was just money.
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Why would Cronin leave UCLA, now that they'll be in the B1G next season? I'm sure UCLA would match L'ville if it was just money.
Louisville will be a significantly better job next year. UCLA will get lost in the quagmire the Big Ten is about to become and the travel is going to be brutal no matter how nice it is versus regular Joe’s traveling.
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IU up 11 on Kansas. Wow.
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Texas up 12 on LSU
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IU up 11 on Kansas. Wow.
Kansas's first true road game of the year. Assembly Hall is rough.
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Texas up 12 on LSU
LSU is bad. And I mean really, really, bad.
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Kansas's first true road game of the year. Assembly Hall is rough.
True but they did lose to Auburn last week by like 30.
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True but they did lose to Auburn last week by like 30.
A + B doesn’t equal C
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True but they did lose to Auburn last week by like 30.
Yes, Indiana is better at Assembly Hall than they are on a neutral floor in Atlanta.
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Do we want Kansas to win, so our win is as good as possible, or lose to drop behind us?
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Providence looking really uninspired.
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Do we want Kansas to win, so our win is as good as possible, or lose to drop behind us?
It's hard to root for Kansas. I honestly don't know....it's a good question.
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Do we want Kansas to win, so our win is as good as possible, or lose to drop behind us?
Root for who you want. Marquette controls its destiny
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Yes, the outcome of this game will have miniscule affect on MU's season.
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Baylor not exactly shredding the nets early.
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It's hard to root for Kansas. I honestly don't know....it's a good question.
We don’t need to worry about the Kansas win losing its value. I prefer the teams ranked ahead of us to lose. That’s the only way MU will move up.
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We don’t need to worry about the Kansas win losing its value. I prefer the teams ranked ahead of us to lose. That’s the only way MU will move up.
Fair enough.
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We've just moved up at least one spot. Although Baylor had no biz being #6.
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Nice 75-71 Kansas win over Indiana
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Nice 96-85 Texas win over LSU too
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Baylor is taking a whooping reminiscent of the one MU put on them last year.
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Will A&M/Buzz take out Houston?
Do we want Zona or Purdue?
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Baylor is taking a whooping reminiscent of the one MU put on them last year.
Yes, I think Scott Drew will no longer schedule December games in Michigan. This years game vs MSU, and last year's game at Marquette.
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Baylor is taking a whooping reminiscent of the one MU put on them last year.
Looking forward to seeing which clueless voters use this game as an excuse to put Michigan St back in the top 25.
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Is cheering for teams we've played and lost to (Purdue, Wisconsin) and/or played and beaten (Kansas, Texas) even relevant? Like, these teams are going pretty assuredly going to be Q1 wins or losses. Saying we beat a probably 1-seed is cool, saying we lost to a 1-seed is fine.
But with MU where its at, does it even matter?
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Is cheering for teams we've played and lost to (Purdue, Wisconsin) and/or played and beaten (Kansas, Texas) even relevant? Like, these teams are going pretty assuredly going to be Q1 wins or losses. Saying we beat a probably 1-seed is cool, saying we lost to a 1-seed is fine.
I think it's mostly about moving up in the T25 even though it doesn't mean all that much with seeding in March.
But with MU where its at, does it even matter?
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Baylor lol
Again. Resumes matter.
Overrated as sh it
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Baylor lol
Again. Resumes matter.
Overrated as sh it
Damn straight. I mentioned this a few times weeks ago.
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Is cheering for teams we've played and lost to (Purdue, Wisconsin) and/or played and beaten (Kansas, Texas) even relevant? Like, these teams are going pretty assuredly going to be Q1 wins or losses. Saying we beat a probably 1-seed is cool, saying we lost to a 1-seed is fine.
But with MU where its at, does it even matter?
It doesn’t make much difference but it’s always fun to take a rooting interest in games that I wouldn’t care about otherwise.
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Yes, I think Scott Drew will no longer schedule December games in Michigan. This years game vs MSU, and last year's game at Marquette.
Well played.
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Yes, I think Scott Drew will no longer schedule December games in Michigan. This years game vs MSU, and last year's game at Marquette.
That was a long drive getting to that game in the UP last year.
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I would like to see UCLA improve their resume.
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I would like to see UCLA improve their resume.
Ugly ugly game.
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I’d love for Buzz to do us a solid and beat Houston.
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Ugly ugly game.
True dat.
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Sending condolences to anyone else who tuned in and experienced Buzz's goatee for the first time.
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Really surprised Purdue has put up 46 in the 1H on Zona.
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Why? Purdue is a good team.
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Is cheering for teams we've played and lost to (Purdue, Wisconsin) and/or played and beaten (Kansas, Texas) even relevant? Like, these teams are going pretty assuredly going to be Q1 wins or losses. Saying we beat a probably 1-seed is cool, saying we lost to a 1-seed is fine.
But with MU where its at, does it even matter?
So like others said, not a big deal. And I don't root for UW. But as someone else said, it gives me a rooting interest. I especially don't like OSU so want UCLA...doesn't look too promising right now. Rooted for Kansas but then I thought, will we compete with them for a 1? Georgetown over ND because BE resume helps us more I think in long run. Always want to be thought of as a better conference than not.
But biggest game is Tuesday @PV. We have to win all of these away games against even the decent teams.
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Why? Purdue is a good team.
They're really good when Loyer has 18 at the half. If I was Zona I would ball pressure much more.
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You've gotta hand it to Purdue but I'm totally lost about what Lloyd is trying to do defensively.
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Wow. This game has completely flipped. Somewhat reminiscent of our game vs Purdue in Hawaii.
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It doesn’t make much difference but it’s always fun to take a rooting interest in games that I wouldn’t care about otherwise.
Doesn't really matter but my heuristic is root against any team ranked/NET above us and for any team below
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Purdue might be good
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Purdue might be good
Those two guards were outstanding today!
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Those two guards were outstanding today!
4 wins over KenPom top-10 teams. Pretty good team
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Virginia down 6 to Northeastern at the half. Pure panic at Virginia Scoop
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Sending condolences to anyone else who tuned in and experienced Buzz's goatee for the first time.
I appreciate that Buzz has leaned more and more into looking like a scumbag over the years. It’s like he is evolving before our very eyes.
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He's like that one Star Trek episode with evil, parallel-universe Spock wearing a goatee.
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Purdue probably returns to #1. Good.team.
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As KenPom says, the gulf between teams 4&5 is greater than 5&26.
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4 wins over KenPom top-10 teams. Pretty good team
Still need to see more.
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As KenPom says, the gulf between teams 4&5 is greater than 5&26.
Ken Pom also says BYU is the 5th best team in the country and Kansas is No. 11.
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Ken Pom also says BYU is the 5th best team in the country and Kansas is No. 11.
And Bama is 9th, Creighton 11h, Iowa St. 17th, etc, etc. Kenpom has some issues frankly. Way too much emphasis on margin of victory. Iowa St. has literally beaten no one. Not a single tournament team.
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BYU is awesome, probably a lock for the final four. And ridiculous that Kenpom does not have the Badgers in the top 10...
Ken Pom also says BYU is the 5th best team in the country and Kansas is No. 11.
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Is cheering for teams we've played and lost to (Purdue, Wisconsin) and/or played and beaten (Kansas, Texas) even relevant? Like, these teams are going pretty assuredly going to be Q1 wins or losses. Saying we beat a probably 1-seed is cool, saying we lost to a 1-seed is fine.
But with MU where its at, does it even matter?
Relevant? Yes. Does each individual game matter much by itself? No.
There could be a situation where we are one of five teams good enough for a 1-seed. One of those 5 will end up getting 2-seed instead. How each team's opponents performed could be the difference between a 1 and a 2 seed.
BTW, Texas is currently a Q2 game. And not even a Q2A. They will need to step it up a ton for them to become a Q1 win.
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And Bama is 9th, Creighton 11h, Iowa St. 17th, etc, etc. Kenpom has some issues frankly. Way too much emphasis on margin of victory. Iowa St. has literally beaten no one. Not a single tournament team.
KenPom isn't about ranking the best resumes. Just how efficient a team is. Margin of victory actually isn't a factor considered by KenPom (though you can generally use margin of victory to tell if Kenpom classified a performance as positive or negative.
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KenPom isn't about ranking the best resumes. Just how efficient a team is. Margin of victory actually isn't a factor considered by KenPom (though you can generally use margin of victory to tell if Kenpom classified a performance as positive or negative.
It certainly helps to efficiently blow out a team !
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And Bama is 9th, Creighton 11h, Iowa St. 17th, etc, etc. Kenpom has some issues frankly. Way too much emphasis on margin of victory. Iowa St. has literally beaten no one. Not a single tournament team.
No, it doesn’t.
Some people can’t or won’t understand how these sites work. That’s ok. Point Warrior is a perfect example. He’s so worried about it and the Badgers he can’t take a second to understand it’s simply a tool to use in evaluating teams
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Games of the Day brought to you by KenPom:
Washington College at Navy at Noon on ESPN+
Miami-Hamilton at Akron at 1PM, no Tv
Saint Vincent at Robert Morris at 1PM on ESPN+
Kentucky Christian at Wofford at 1PM on ESPN+
Blackburn at Eastern Illinois at 2PM on ESPN+
Crown at St. Thomas at 2PM on Summit (Willie - don’t watch this game. Might trigger PTSD from Thursday’s loss)
Lindsey Wilson at SE Missouri St at 3PM on ESPN+
Southern Colorado at Colorado State at 5PM on MWN
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Games of the Day brought to you by KenPom:
Washington College at Navy at Noon on ESPN+
Miami-Hamilton at Akron at 1PM, no Tv
Saint Vincent at Robert Morris at 1PM on ESPN+
Kentucky Christian at Wofford at 1PM on ESPN+
Blackburn at Eastern Illinois at 2PM on ESPN+
Crown at St. Thomas at 2PM on Summit (Willie - don’t watch this game. Might trigger PTSD from Thursday’s loss)
Lindsey Wilson at SE Missouri St at 3PM on ESPN+
Southern Colorado at Colorado State at 5PM on MWN
Full schedule! No NFL for me
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You gotta love the ESPN analyst on the Auburn/USC telecast. "Auburn already has some huge wins. They blew out Notre Dame." LOL.
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Great 2nd half for Kstate today
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Great 2nd half for Kstate today
Woof
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12 freaking points??
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12 freaking points??
And Nebraska’s not exactly a defensive juggernaut.
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And Nebraska’s not exactly a defensive juggernaut.
They were also playing on their home floor. Point Shaving?
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They were also playing on their home floor. Point Shaving?
Probably
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Probably
Fine student athletes?
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Fine student athletes?
'Fine' the adjective, or 'fine' the verb?
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'Fine' the adjective, or 'fine' the verb?
Fined
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Games of the Day brought to you by My Pillow:
Penn State-Greater Allegheny at Drexel at 10AM on FloH
Texas Lutheran at Texas A&M-Chorpus Christi at 11AM on ESPN+
Arlington Baptist at Texas A&M-Commerce at 11AM on ESPN+
North American at Prairie View A&M at 3PM on Stre
Westminster (PA) at Youngstown State at 5:30PM on ESPN+
Thomas at Dartmouth at 6PM on ESPN+
Bluefield College at Marshall at 6PM on ESPN+
Defiance at Ohio at 6PM on ESPN+
Central Christian College of the Bible at SIU-Edwardsville at 7PM on ESPN+
Calumet College of St. Joseph at NIU at 7PM on ESPN+
Eureka at Western Illinois at 7PM on ESPN+
LeTourneau at Texas St. at 7PM on ESPN+
CSU Stanislaus at Pacific at 9PM on ESPN+
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Defiance @ Ohio sounds like trouble
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James Madison's seed if they go undefeated? Ty.
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Not this crap again, are they as good as their 11-1 football team?
They are #68 in Kenpom - so play-in game?
James Madison's seed if they go undefeated? Ty.
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James Madison's seed if they go undefeated? Ty.
My gut says 4/5. The MSU win is devalued and there's only so far you can go without many good wins.
My question is how many games they can lose and still get an at-large. My guess is 3 total (2 regular season, then 1 conference tourney).
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Defiance @ Ohio sounds like trouble
I believe Neil Young wrote about this decades ago.
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James Madison's seed if they go undefeated? Ty.
I vaguely remember Wichita States undefeated season they didn't beat anyone ranked and their SOS was above 100 (not sure how far above). They got a 1 seed. I think they lost the first weekend. I could be remembering wrong. But it was a bone of contention in the media as I recall
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I vaguely remember Wichita States undefeated season they didn't beat anyone ranked and their SOS was above 100 (not sure how far above). They got a 1 seed. I think they lost the first weekend. I could be remembering wrong. But it was a bone of contention in the media as I recall
2014 WSU was a one seed and lost to an eight seed Kentucky in the second round.
They would likely be more like a six seed Murray State from 2012. Probably a four or five IMO.
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Games of the Day brought to you by the Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund:
Toccoa Falls at Georgia State at 10AM on ESPN +
Wiley at Southern at 2PM, no TV
Davenport at Central Michigan at 6PM on ESPN+
Bridgewater at George Mason at 6PM on ESPN+
Brescia at Kennesaw State at 6PM on ESPN+
John Brown at Oral Roberta at 7PM on Summit
CSU Dominguez Hills at LBSU at 9PM on ESPN+
Saint Katherine at SDSU at 9PM on MWN
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I appreciate you trying to LIV a little.
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I appreciate you trying to LIV a little.
Pays to be friends with Jared Kushner!
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Pays to be friends with Jared Kushner!
Seems like you are better friends with Kush
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Seems like you are better friends with Kush
Uncle don't have 2 billion to be his friend
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I believe Neil Young wrote about this decades ago.
Don't count he is a fake US citizen
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Uncle don't have 2 billion to be his friend
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kush_(cannabis)#:~:text=Kush%20generally%20refers%20to%20a,Kush%20and%20Golden%20Jamaican%20Kush. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kush_(cannabis)#:~:text=Kush%20generally%20refers%20to%20a,Kush%20and%20Golden%20Jamaican%20Kush.)
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I vaguely remember Wichita States undefeated season they didn't beat anyone ranked and their SOS was above 100 (not sure how far above). They got a 1 seed. I think they lost the first weekend. I could be remembering wrong. But it was a bone of contention in the media as I recall
Wichita was a top-5 team in kenpom, and by this point of the season they were #12. JMU is currently #68. If they win out they'll likely be top-50, maybe even top-30, but no one will confuse them for 2014 WSU.
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2014 Wichita also beat a lot more quality teams than James Madison could this season. Looking at the top KenPom games of each:
WICH:
#10 Tennessee
@#35 Saint Louis
vs.#49 BYU
@#82 Tulsa
@#86 Alabama
@#95 Northern Iowa
JMU:
@#23 Michigan State
@#79 App State
#79 App State
@#103 Kent State
vs.#106 SIU
@#151 UL-Lafayette
Even if JMU does go undefeated, the schedule isn't remotely on the same level as Wichita States was
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Hypothetical first round match up Morehead State blowing the doors off of Indiana at halftime at Assembly Hall.
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The Citadel 65
Notre Dame 45
Final
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The Citadel 65
Notre Dame 45
Final
Crap - Citadel is better than us?
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Hypothetical first round match up Morehead State blowing the doors off of Indiana at halftime at Assembly Hall.
You jinxed Morehead.
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Morehead started standing around.
And life is so much more peaceful here if IU wins.
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https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3497720/if-you-dont-play-hard-youll-rot-on-the-bench.-ill-help-you-transfer-nd-coach-micah-shrewsberry-destroyed-his-team-after-losing-by-20-to-the-citadel
Must watch one minute video attached.
Shrewsberry going nuclear on his players after brutal loss. Don't know how players will react, but MU going to need a point guard next year, maybe that Burton would like to leave.
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https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3497720/if-you-dont-play-hard-youll-rot-on-the-bench.-ill-help-you-transfer-nd-coach-micah-shrewsberry-destroyed-his-team-after-losing-by-20-to-the-citadel
Must watch one minute video attached.
Shrewsberry going nuclear on his players after brutal loss. Don't know how players will react, but MU going to need a point guard next year, maybe that Burton would like to leave.
Really puts things into perspective. Remember last year - MU loss at PC, then we go 16-2 in next 18 games. I know last years team is different, but we beat #1 over Thanksgiving and lost to #2 by 3. The team has it in them.
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And screw Izzo, the only reason anyone is even discussing JMU at this time is because of their win over a crappity MSU team.
2014 Wichita also beat a lot more quality teams than James Madison could this season. Looking at the top KenPom games of each:
WICH:
#10 Tennessee
@#35 Saint Louis
vs.#49 BYU
@#82 Tulsa
@#86 Alabama
@#95 Northern Iowa
JMU:
@#23 Michigan State
@#79 App State
#79 App State
@#103 Kent State
vs.#106 SIU
@#151 UL-Lafayette
Even if JMU does go undefeated, the schedule isn't remotely on the same level as Wichita States was
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https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3497720/if-you-dont-play-hard-youll-rot-on-the-bench.-ill-help-you-transfer-nd-coach-micah-shrewsberry-destroyed-his-team-after-losing-by-20-to-the-citadel
Must watch one minute video attached.
Shrewsberry going nuclear on his players after brutal loss. Don't know how players will react, but MU going to need a point guard next year, maybe that Burton would like to leave.
So he says no energy at practice? Who the heck is running practice if not the coaching staff, talk about a coach sh!t show.
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Playing in Phoenix, Arizona State has 13 points at the half against Northwestern. And I thought MU had a bad night offensively last night.
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Playing in Phoenix, Arizona State has 13 points at the half against Northwestern. And I thought MU had a bad night offensively last night.
I guess they'd only have had 10 against Chicago State!
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Radford beats WVU tonight. Sure glad we did not play them this year.
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What a Big East night! Down goes UCONN to Seton Hall, and Creighton to Villanova!
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Pretty good game between Bama and Zona. Although Bama at one point was 1-15 from distance.
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Bama is 6-41 from downtown.
Ballo is a load.....do we have a Malian Scout?
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Bama will probably wind up a 9-12 sees and they have top 10 talent.
That's not a team the 1's or 2's will want to see in the 2nd rd.
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Bama will probably wind up a 9-12 sees and they have top 10 talent.
That's not a team the 1's or 2's will want to see in the 2nd rd.
Top 10 talent based on? They lost a TON. 2 first round picks, an experienced talented guard in Quinerly, a talented 5 year guy in Gurley, and then also the presumed next guys up in Burnett and Bradley.
They didn’t have any stud recruits (nobody in the top 50) and their best transfers were from ND State and Hofstra, and we know mid major transfer ups are always a crapshoot.
Are they better than their record? Probably. Do they have top 10 talent and/or should be a top 5 seed if they didn’t underperform? No I definitely don’t think so
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The Fightin’ Mosers finally faced a real opponent.
Unbeaten no more.
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The Fightin’ Mosers finally faced a real opponent.
Unbeaten no more.
I know you are day drinking at the pool bar, but I also know you are provincial, but can't we just be happy that Porter is also having success? I mean the Sooners did beat Providence by 21.
Porter is a great guy. What a difference in coaching candidates after Wojo. Two Final Four coaches and an up and comer in Dennis Gates. Compare that to the Wojo hire candidates and process. Let's be happy for him and not write a Smith is better than Jones post every time he loses like you did for Texas Shaka.
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While I agree with your sentiment, it is pretty clear MU82 is posting directly at nolongerwarriors, who has made it abundantly clear that he wanted Moser instead of Shaka, why he prefers Moser, and pointed out Moser's record this season.
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While I agree with your sentiment, it is pretty clear MU82 is posting directly at nolongerwarriors, who has made it abundantly clear that he wanted Moser instead of Shaka, why he prefers Moser, and pointed out Moser's record this season.
I heartily apologize then as I use the ignore option liberally.
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A wise choice.
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I heartily apologize then as I use the ignore option liberally.
No worries, Dr. B.
And you’re right about the day-drinking. L’Chaim!
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No worries, Dr. B.
And you’re right about the day-drinking. L’Chaim!
Enjoy the trip!
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Yale with a 1 point lead at halftime over Kansas.
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Sad week in college hoops for those that were fans of 90’s ball. First Eric Montross at 51 passing away from cancer, now Ryan Minor at 49.
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Sad week in college hoops for those that were fans of 90’s ball. First Eric Montross at 51 passing away from cancer, now Ryan Minor at 49.
Both gone way too soon.
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Illinois making MU's win look even better.
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UCLA has not gotten better. They stink
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UCLA has not gotten better. They stink
They're bad. That's why we can't forget how big that shot was by JTY.
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Illinois making MU's win look even better.
Missouri hasn't beaten anyone. They looked pretty good against Kansas but they're seemingly not a threat to do much in the B12
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UCLA has not gotten better. They stink
COLE
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Missouri hasn't beaten anyone. They looked pretty good against Kansas but they're seemingly not a threat to do much in the B12
Missouri lost a lot of players. But Gates has a top 5 class (5 players) next year for 2024 and a recent top 20 recruit for 2025 who committed two weeks ago.
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UCLA has cut a 20 point deficit to 4 against Maryland with 6 minutes left.
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UCLA has cut a 20 point deficit to 4 against Maryland with 6 minutes left.
They're not good Blue.
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Missouri hasn't beaten anyone. They looked pretty good against Kansas but they're seemingly not a threat to do much in the B12
Definitely not a threat to do anything in the B12. I’d imagine they won’t win a single Big Twelve conference game.
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Definitely not a threat to do anything in the B12. I’d imagine they won’t win a single Big Twelve conference game.
WVU is in that conference...
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Definitely not a threat to do anything in the B12. I’d imagine they won’t win a single Big Twelve conference game.
I didn't write that. But let's be fair and realistic.
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Definitely not a threat to do anything in the B12. I’d imagine they won’t win a single Big Twelve conference game.
I knew Kim English looked young to be coaching Providence. But winning 30 games this season playing at Mizzou, and still finding time to coach the Friars, is quite the feat. He must have football team energy.
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I didn't write that. But let's be fair and realistic.
Wades is right. Not only will Mizzou not win a single B12 conference game, they won’t even participate in the B12 tournament.
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Wades is right. Not only will Mizzou not win a single B12 conference game, they won’t even participate in the B12 tournament.
Oh...the SEC. Everyone knew what I meant.
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LOL Muggsy error tricked my mind too.
Oh well, WVU is about the only team I think I would bet on Mizzou against so at least that part stands.
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LOL Muggsy error tricked my mind too.
Oh well, WVU is about the only team I think I would bet on Mizzou against so at least that part stands.
I still remember Huggy Bear getting tossed in a game after a temper tantrum that resulted in T#2, going into the tunnel and then coming back out to rant some more before leaving for good. He was lucky the cops did not cuff him. ;D
Oh wait! They did, but for DWI.
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LOL Muggsy error tricked my mind too.
Oh well, WVU is about the only team I think I would bet on Mizzou against so at least that part stands.
They won’t have a great team this year but they will win some games.
Bryce Drew recently only lasted only 3 seasons at Vandy after going 0-18 in SEC play. He had some injuries to key players like Garland etc…and the new AD didn’t help with the quick hook. He wasn’t as bad of a coach as his record that season.
But Drew underestimated the importance of competing later in a down season to keep his job. He wrongly thought he would get a pass for that season. People there still discuss it. And most agreed with the decision.
So I would expect Gates to find a way to win a some league games until they reload the next few seasons with strong classes.
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They won’t have a great team this year but they will win some games.
Bryce Drew recently only lasted only 3 seasons at Vandy after going 0-18 in SEC play. He had some injuries to key players like Garland etc…and the new AD didn’t help with the quick hook. He wasn’t as bad of a coach as his record that season.
But Drew underestimated the importance of competing later in a down season to keep his job. He wrongly thought he would get a pass for that season. People there still discuss it. And most agreed with the decision.
So I would expect Gates to find a way to win a some league games until they reload the next few seasons with strong classes.
You missed the point. Muggs said they’ll struggle in the Big 12. Mizzou hasn’t played a Big 12 conference game for over a decade. They could be the best team or program in the history of college basketball and they would not win a single Big 12 conference game this year.
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You missed the point. Muggs said they’ll struggle in the Big 12. Mizzou hasn’t played a Big 12 conference game for over a decade. They could be the best team or program in the history of college basketball and they would not win a single Big 12 conference game this year.
Missing the point is his schtick
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You missed the point. Muggs said they’ll struggle in the Big 12. Mizzou hasn’t played a Big 12 conference game for over a decade. They could be the best team or program in the history of college basketball and they would not win a single Big 12 conference game this year.
Actually, no I didn’t miss the point. You missed mine.
I understood your joke to Muggsy. That’s why I referenced Kim English. The last year Mizzou played in the Big 12 was 11 years ago when, wait for it, Kim English played on that 30 win team.
A different poster posted about something entirely different which was about whether or not Mizzou would win any league games in the SEC. So I responded to that separately.
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🫡
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Zona is throttling FAU early. I'd like to get a guy like Ballo in an MU uni.
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FAU showing a lot of grit.
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Zona is throttling FAU early. I'd like to get a guy like Ballo in an MU uni.
FAU with a Marquette-esque 16 to 4 run to start the 2nd half.
Ballo now 3-9 FG. Oso is better.
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FAU with a Marquette-esque 16 to 4 run to start the 2nd half.
Ballo now 3-9 FG. Oso is better.
Ballo clearly let my post get to his head!
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FAU gagging a bit.
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Reading Twitter and there are Louisville fans (a lot of them) dead set on Shaka and think they have a realistic shot to hire him.
😂😂😂
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Reading Twitter and there are Louisville fans (a lot of them) dead set on Shaka and think they have a realistic shot to hire him.
😂😂😂
Lol.
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Reading Twitter and there are Louisville fans (a lot of them) dead set on Shaka and think they have a realistic shot to hire him.
😂😂😂
Raise at Marquette looms
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Reading Twitter and there are Louisville fans (a lot of them) dead set on Shaka and think they have a realistic shot to hire him.
😂😂😂
They could afford him if they gave him the deed to all UoL real estate
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What a game AZ v FAU
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This game is nuts
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Reading Twitter and there are Louisville fans (a lot of them) dead set on Shaka and think they have a realistic shot to hire him.
😂😂😂
He’ll kill it at Louisville and I think Wardle will do fine here
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What a brutal foul by FAU there
Also, Caleb Loves scrotum is firmly in the mouth of these announcers. Never heard so much love(no pun intended) for a guy who typically needs 22 shots for 22 pts
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Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue
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Big time win for FAU.
Love lol
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Arizona outrebounded FAU 50-32, 22-6 on the offensive end but shot 25% from 3 and 39% from 2.
Miss or make game
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🦉 🦉 🦉
:)
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Arizona outrebounded FAU 50-32, 22-6 on the offensive end but shot 25% from 3 and 39% from 2.
Miss or make game
FAU following the Shaka blueprint.
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Hope this young Spartan recovers soon.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39180290/michigan-state-jeremy-fears-jr-hospital-getting-shot
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Arizona outrebounded FAU 50-32, 22-6 on the offensive end but shot 25% from 3 and 39% from 2.
Miss or make game
High defensivFAU following the Shaka blueprint.
High defensive rebounds means not enough turnovers.
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https://twitter.com/GaryParrishCBS/status/1740450474111758441?t=9tA58QhjFnCLxGUCHWnm6g&s=19
GEEZUS. Terrence Shannon Jr. charged with rape.
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https://twitter.com/GaryParrishCBS/status/1740450474111758441?t=9tA58QhjFnCLxGUCHWnm6g&s=19
GEEZUS. Terrence Shannon Jr. charged with rape.
Goodman has more detail on dates, etc.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1740450630949343347
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Goodman has more detail on dates, etc.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1740450630949343347
They knew since September!?!?!?
Good grief.
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They knew since September!?!?!?
Good grief.
Where are you getting that from?
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They knew since September!?!?!?
Good grief.
It doesn't say that, does it? It says the alleged incident happened in September, not that they knew since then. Unless I'm missing something.
For the record, I acknowledge that it doesn't say that recently found out.
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Coach Beard thinks it’s no big deal
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It doesn't say that, does it? It says the alleged incident happened in September, not that they knew since then. Unless I'm missing something.
For the record, I acknowledge that it doesn't say that recently found out.
Illinois All America candidate Terrence Shannon Jr has been suspended from the program following an arrest on rape charges, per release from the school. The school has been aware of a police investigation that began in late September.
https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1740451674991571146?t=SC1fcRxwqzt1JljhVgMkfg&s=19
I guess it doesn't. I just read this Tweet to fast.
Not great wording from Seth.
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Illinois All America candidate Terrence Shannon Jr has been suspended from the program following an arrest on rape charges, per release from the school. The school has been aware of a police investigation that began in late September.
https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1740451674991571146?t=SC1fcRxwqzt1JljhVgMkfg&s=19
I guess it doesn't. I just read this Tweet to fast.
Not great wording from Seth.
Well...maybe they were aware...I don't really know.
per Illinois' release: "DIA and Urbana campus officials have been aware of a Lawrence police investigation into Shannon since late September but, until Wednesday, had yet to receive actionable information."
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Well...maybe they were aware...I don't really know.
per Illinois' release: "DIA and Urbana campus officials have been aware of a Lawrence police investigation into Shannon since late September but, until Wednesday, had yet to receive actionable information."
Yeah...it's not the picture of clarity. It certainly does sound like they've been aware for quite a while.
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Yeah...it's not the picture of clarity. It certainly does sound like they've been aware for quite a while.
If they were...I wonder if the staff or school alerted the team.
How do you as a player even go out and play with that cloud over your head knowing the info will come out soon enough. Same from the coaches perspective.
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Buzz Underwood
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Unless they literally posted that in the last 2-3 hours, it's meaningless and just some assholes trying to stir up controversy.
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Goodman has more detail on dates, etc.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1740450630949343347
Hard to believe he didn’t end up at Michigan State
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Sweet Jesus.
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Illinois All America candidate Terrence Shannon Jr has been suspended from the program following an arrest on rape charges, per release from the school. The school has been aware of a police investigation that began in late September.
https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1740451674991571146?t=SC1fcRxwqzt1JljhVgMkfg&s=19
I guess it doesn't. I just read this Tweet to fast.
Not great wording from Seth.
Gotta hear both sides
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If they were...I wonder if the staff or school alerted the team.
How do you as a player even go out and play with that cloud over your head knowing the info will come out soon enough. Same from the coaches perspective.
He's a professional.
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Gotta hear both sides
I agree.
I bet UofI felt the same and that is why it took them until now to act.
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Hard to believe he didn’t end up at Michigan State
Right?
Personally, this does not reflect poorly on UofI. How they handle it is how I will judge UofI. If they go all Michigan State and Baylor, then to hell with them.
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Unless they literally posted that in the last 2-3 hours, it's meaningless and just some assholes trying to stir up controversy.
It was posted yesterday.
According to the Illinois board it sounds like the school did know too and they still were Tweeting using TSJ as the focus and just promoted a day in the life featuring him as well. They are displeased at that.
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It was posted yesterday.
According to the Illinois board it sounds like the school did know too and they still were Tweeting using TSJ as the focus and just promoted a day in the life featuring him as well. They are displeased at that.
The news broke after 1:00. You posted that before 2:00. My point stands.
And knowing he was being investigated as opposed to knowing the details, circumstances, and timing of the charges being announced are two totally different things. If it turns out the social media people knew this was happening and still went ahead with it, that's one thing. Otherwise, it's still just asshol/color]es trying to stir up controversy and nothing more.
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Borzello might want to change his second round pick
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39187206/men-college-basketball-midseason-2023-24-fantasy-draft-edey-vs-filipowski (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39187206/men-college-basketball-midseason-2023-24-fantasy-draft-edey-vs-filipowski)
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Zags getting rolled at home by San Diego St. Yikes.
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Zags getting rolled at home by San Diego St. Yikes.
If they lose this one and against Kentucky in February that’s not an at large resume.
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If they lose this one and against Kentucky in February that’s not an at large resume.
Crazy to think they might need to win the WCC tournament to get in.
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Crazy to think they might need to win the WCC tournament to get in.
They will have zero Q1 wins if they lose to Kentucky, so it's definitely probable they will have to win the WCC conference tournament to get in.
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St. Thomas rolled North Dakota to open up Summitt League play. Not as impressive as their win in Milwaukee but a win still
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Gonzaga is a pile of 💩. Every year they are overrated. Kentucky is going to smoke them. Given their name even if they lose in the conference tournament they will most likely be in the play in game at minimum. 0 quad 1 wins would be awfully impressive
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I love to be so overrated to have two national championship game appearances in the last decade.
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I love to be so overrated to have two national championship game appearances in the last decade.
8 Sweet 16’s since 2015 overrated. Marquette has been to 5 since the tournament expanded to 64.
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Let's be real they play in a joke of a conference and get overseeded every year because of their overall record not quality of wins. Also, there championship runs they didn't play higher than a 4 seed before the championship when they lost both. My point was they are overseeded every year maybe not overrated.
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Let's be real they play in a joke of a conference and get overseeded every year because of their overall record not quality of wins. Also, there championship runs they didn't play higher than a 4 seed before the championship when they lost both. My point was they are overseeded every year maybe not overrated.
I would be happy with it.
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Let's be real they play in a joke of a conference and get overseeded every year because of their overall record not quality of wins. Also, there championship runs they didn't play higher than a 4 seed before the championship when they lost both. My point was they are overseeded every year maybe not overrated.
I am real. You’re wrong
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I am real. You’re wrong
You doxxed yourself
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You doxxed yourself
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Wow
btw, I kind of want to try a THC beer
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Gonzaga is a pile of 💩. Every year they are overrated. Kentucky is going to smoke them. Given their name even if they lose in the conference tournament they will most likely be in the play in game at minimum. 0 quad 1 wins would be awfully impressive
They're not having a great year but SDSU is good Howard.
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Kentucky is going to smoke them.
Said everyone about UNC-Wilmington before UNCW's game at Rupp.
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Notre Dame, who played even with Marquette for the final 30 minutes, leads Virginia by 18 with 3:34 left in the first half. Cavs have 16 points.
Tony Bennett the new Gary Williams? Many are saying this
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Notre Dame, who played even with Marquette for the final 30 minutes, leads Virginia by 18 with 3:34 left in the first half. Cavs have 16 points.
Tony Bennett the new Gary Williams? Many are saying this
It’s very difficult for a program to get back on track after losing a Hauser
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It’s very difficult for a program to get back on track after losing a Hauser
Their arrivals are usually an impetus to disaster
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I forgot Lipscomb is in Nashville.
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Notre Dame throttling Virginia
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In a typical year, Gonzaga wins 4-5 elite nonconference games.
Going 0-fer like this year is the exception, not the rule.
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Congrats to the 🦬 🦬 🦬 🦬 🦬.
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Brennan and Bond probably should’ve stayed home.
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What’s worse for FSU fans - your pretend national championship football team getting absolutely blasted by Georgia or your hoops team getting beat by Lipscomb?
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FAU down 4 with 3 mins to go against Florida gulf coast
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Fau loses by 4. Should drop like a rock in the rankings.
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Crazy loss for FAU.
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Crazy loss for FAU.
That win for FGCU (288 NET) should be enough to pass #282 DePaul.
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What’s worse for FSU fans - your pretend national championship football team getting absolutely blasted by Georgia or your hoops team getting beat by Lipscomb?
Hoops team
Football lost 24 players to portal/draft sit out, number one QB hurt, number 2 QB to portal five days before game, number 3 QB a true freshman going against an unhappy Georgia team. Should have been 30 point underdogs today. No pretenders prior to CFB playoffs, after not selected, program deflated and busted.
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Hoops team
Football lost 24 players to portal/draft sit out, number one QB hurt, number 2 QB to portal five days before game, number 3 QB a true freshman going against an unhappy Georgia team. Should have been 30 point underdogs today. No pretenders prior to CFB playoffs, after not selected, program deflated and busted.
Agreed. Losing an exhibition football game is no big deal.
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Crazy loss for FAU.
Fraud Atlantic University
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Wow
btw, I kind of want to try a THC beer
Bad idea to mix. Just do some of those funny waters or an eddie.
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Fraud Atlantic University
Yes but they beat Arizona.
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People are asking if Lebron James ruined basketball in Los Angeles.
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Stanford up 17 on Zona.
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SAT points?
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Yes but they beat Arizona.
Unclear if Arizona is good?
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Stanford 100 Az 82 final
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MU just clicked up another spot.
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There seriously is no great team in college basketball this season, at least none that has emerged yet.
Marquette is just as likely to win the title as any team in the country.
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There seriously is no great team in college basketball this season, at least none that has emerged yet.
Marquette is just as likely to win the title as any team in the country.
Looks around….🫣…..Houston
Not a great schedule and the offense will be an issue but they good
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There seriously is no great team in college basketball this season, at least none that has emerged yet.
Marquette is just as likely to win the title as any team in the country.
Old King Cole was a jolly old soul.... ;D
Disagree "as any team...." but yeah, agree that there is no team dominating college bball as of yet. It could be Marquette if (that all important word) the offense we showcased vs. Kansas resurfaces and we play defense like we did on Saturday.
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Looks around….🫣…..Houston
Not a great schedule and the offense will be an issue but they good
Maybe. They have whooped inferior teams, but they had trouble with Texas A&M, Utah, and Xavier, none of whom are top-20 teams. Might they win the most B12 games since 2020 Kansas like kenpom projects? Possibly. But there are 4 B12 teams better than anyone they've faced so far (top-20) and 4 more in the top-40 that won't be easy outs.
If they treat the B12 like they did the American, I'll start to believe, but their non-con resume is weak, even if the results are decisive.
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Looks around….🫣…..Houston
Not a great schedule and the offense will be an issue but they good
Sure, Houston’s good. Lots of teams are good. Marquette’s good.
There’s not a team I look at and say, “It would be a big upset for us to beat them on a neutral court in March.”
And I think I’m a realist.
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Yup. It may not happen. But MU doesn't need to fear anyone.
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Stanford helped MU’s cause with their big win.
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Stanford did no such thing. Sure, MU may move higher in the top 10 next week thanks to Arizona losing. But MU's 'cause' is not next week's ranking. MU's cause is wins in March.
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Stanford did no such thing. Sure, MU may move higher in the top 10 next week thanks to Arizona losing. But MU's 'cause' is not next week's ranking. MU's cause is wins in March.
MU’s Cause is to get a high Seed
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Fraud Atlantic University
Final Four team last year.
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Final Four team last year.
The team just beat AZ in a double OT classic. Now FAU loses and it’s a fraudulent program?
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Stanford did no such thing. Sure, MU may move higher in the top 10 next week thanks to Arizona losing. But MU's 'cause' is not next week's ranking. MU's cause is wins in March.
Give him a break, he is dead, the dead get easily confused.
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Final Four team last year.
Last year no matta. George Mason wasn't even close to being an NCAAT team in 2006-07. Neither was Loyola in 2018-19. St. Peter's sucked last season. We'll see where FAU is at the end of this season.
The team just beat AZ in a double OT classic. Now FAU loses and it’s a fraudulent program?
Well, they also lost at home to mighty Bryant. So which was/were the fluke(s), the losses to shyte Bryant and FGCU, or the win over AZ? Maybe none was a fluke, and FAU is just another decent but flawed team. We'll see!
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Trying to figure out why Gonzaga is still ranked and the Aztecs are not?
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Trying to figure out why Gonzaga is still ranked and the Aztecs are not?
Preconcieved notions about which team is better.
Gonzaga has not done anything this season worthy of being ranked
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I'm interested in how long ole miss and James Madison can stay undefeated. MS has TN away this weekend so it could end real soon but James Madison plays nobody...doubt they'll last but interesting to see.
With college basketball it's not about Frauds or not but emotion and fandom and hope and dreams and pain. Let FAU have their ride. The season has a way of sorting things out. And if some team over achieves, so be it.
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Edey with a pedestrian 23 and 12 in a double digit win at Maryland.
UW scores 83 in a win against Iowa where they shot nearly 40 free throws.
The 2 clear best in the B1G.
Baylor approaching 50 points against Cornell in the 1st half in Game 1 in their new arena.
FAU struggled with ECU but pulled away late.
UNC handling Pitt.
A ton of Top25 action tonight.
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Classic Trohl Center refs
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Grambling State 84 College of Biblical Studies 72
Our Lady of the Lake down 11 to Incarnate Word late
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Illinois is really good. Too bad what is happening with Shannon or they would be a real threat in the B1G.
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Illinois is really good. Too bad what is happening with Shannon or they would be a real threat in the B1G.
Yes, that is too bad
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Yes, that is too bad
Is he officially out for the season or is it possible an investigation will be completed relatively soon?
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Is he officially out for the season or is it possible an investigation will be completed relatively soon?
I don't think anything is official. No idea how long something like this takes to sort through. They aren't going to rush it, I know that much. Just a brutal situation.
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I don't think anything is official. No idea how long something like this takes to sort through. They aren't going to rush it, I know that much. Just a brutal situation.
It's strange to me that they apparently knew about this incident in Sept.
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Edey with a pedestrian 23 and 12 in a double digit win at Maryland.
UW scores 83 in a win against Iowa where they shot nearly 40 free throws.
The 2 clear best in the B1G.
Baylor approaching 50 points against Cornell in the 1st half in Game 1 in their new arena.
FAU struggled with ECU but pulled away late.
UNC handling Pitt.
A ton of Top25 action tonight.
I will bet the top 2 teams in the Big Ten will not end up being Purdue and Wisconsin.
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I will bet the top 2 teams in the Big Ten will not end up being Purdue and Wisconsin.
I'd be shocked if Purdue loses more than 3 games in league play.
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I'd be shocked if Purdue loses more than 3 games in league play.
So that takes care of one of the top 2 spots.
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Illinois absolutely destroying NW even without Shannon.
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Speaking of fraud teams ... Northwestern.
That was a great win over Purdue, though. Very Fairleigh Dickensonian.
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So that takes care of one of the top 2 spots.
The other is just by default with the TSJ news.
The BIG Ten is very bad outside those 3.
Ohio State is ok. Michigan State is ok. That's about it.
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Is he officially out for the season or is it possible an investigation will be completed relatively soon?
Because charges have officially been brought, he will be suspended from play until he's found not guilty or the charges are dropped. Not guilty will likely take awhile. Charges being dropped could happen tomorrow or never. Without knowing the details, impossible to say.
It's strange to me that they apparently knew about this incident in Sept.
Iirc, the school released a statement claiming they didnt know. Even if they did, there was likely nothing they could have done until now.
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Iirc, the school released a statement claiming they didnt know. Even if they did, there was likely nothing they could have done until now.
That is incorrect. They did know of the incident but because no charges had been filed, he was allowed to play. Once charges were filed, he was immediately suspended.
There was an ongoing investigation by local police and U of I went to Shannon and asked for his side, and he likely said it was consensual. Can't fault the University for doing nothing when there is no evidence out there.
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My recollection was they knew of AN incident, but they weren't aware of the nature of the incident.
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Because charges have officially been brought, he will be suspended from play until he's found not guilty or the charges are dropped. Not guilty will likely take awhile. Charges being dropped could happen tomorrow or never. Without knowing the details, impossible to say.
Iirc, the school released a statement claiming they didnt know. Even if they did, there was likely nothing they could have done until now.
Well clearly the school knew something happened and their statement was incorrect.
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Classic Trohl Center refs
They must alternate between the Kohl Center and the Dunk or whatever they call it these days.
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They must alternate between the Kohl Center and the Dunk or whatever they call it these days.
Last night was amazing. Iowa isn’t a good defensive team by any stretch but they haven’t been prone to heavy fouling. Not seeing a Frantrum from that game where he nears explosion is a miracle
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Chucky Hepburn shooting a blistering 44.1% eFG%. Bum. Good news for uw-Madison is the last time he scored double digits was in November. Usage & %shots way down this year. Storr with some nice comps; bummer they got him to go to their extension
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Well clearly the school knew something happened and their statement was incorrect.
Why is it clear the school knew something? My experience is that police almost never share things with universities unless they have to. Usually schools find out about these things because the complainant tells the school. Since the complainant in this case is likely a kansas native, it seems likely that they wouldn't have thought to report it to the university of Illinois.
If they did know something, what would you have expected the school to do?
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I think school had limited options while waiting for any further info. Process had to play out. However, school also made the decision after knowing there was an investigation/allegation to make him front and center face of the program. If UofI made a mistake, that was it.
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I think school had limited options while waiting for any further info. Process had to play out. However, school also made the decision after knowing there was an investigation/allegation to make him front and center face of the program. If UofI made a mistake, that was it.
I think you're spot-on here.
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I think you're spot-on here.
Oh boy, you're going to get a huge invoice
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My guess is that the people who made the decision to make him front and center of the program probably had no idea that any investigation was taking place.
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My guess is that the people who made the decision to make him front and center of the program probably had no idea that any investigation was taking place.
So their marketing department sucks as well!
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Oh boy, you're going to get a huge invoice
;D
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LA Tech up 30 against Dallas Christian at half.
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LA Tech up 30 against Dallas Christian at half.
Jesus not helping Dallas?
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Jesus not helping Dallas?
He got better NIL money at Notre Dame for his TD billboard by the football stadium.
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Chicago St. played their 20th game of the season last night.
They are playing their 21st tonight at Oklahoma State.
What a schedule!!!
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Chicago St. played their 20th game of the season last night.
They are playing their 21st tonight at Oklahoma State.
What a schedule!!!
As an independent, they only have three games scheduled in all of February.
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Bryce Hopkins left game with what looked like a potentially serious knee injury.
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Notre Dame woooooooooooof
Have been looking at some how pulling off back to back ACC wins
But just had possibly the most inept final 3 minutes you will ever see from a basketball team
Just lost at the buzzer
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Notre Dame woooooooooooof
Have been looking at some how pulling off back to back ACC wins
But just had possibly the most inept final 3 minutes you will ever see from a basketball team
Just lost at the buzzer
UCLA's opening 11 minutes against Stanford would like to have a word
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UCLA's opening 11 minutes against Stanford would like to have a word
Believe me I saw the first 7 minutes of us vs ND, I know how bad they can be.
But this was incredible especially given situation. I think the least embarrassing play was Burton tripping and face planting with the ball on the base line for a TO.
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Well
According to the goof on the left we are "good" but already have 2 elite wins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mfMYN5zMMc
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Well
According to the goof on the left we are "good" but already have 2 elite wins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mfMYN5zMMc
After putting Kansas in Elite and Illinois in Great. Lol.
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Well
According to the goof on the left we are "good" but already have 2 elite wins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mfMYN5zMMc
He's a pretty huge B1G fan iirc specifically MSU. The guy on the right is more objective about things. Also if you really want to cringe watch the clip where the left guy makes them do a white vs black draft. Painfully cringeworthy.
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After putting Kansas in Elite and Illinois in Great. Lol.
I even agree with Wadell on the Kansas remark that a team starting Emarko Jackson is questionable to be elite. KU keeps winning tho so not a terrible move, I just still dont think this is close to a usual Bill Self top 5 team.
But Illinois "with redacted" being elite is down right hilarious.
Its a win that will age well for us and they are good-great. But elite?? they dont have a damn PG. They lost to the two best teams they played.
Boat racing teams is good but I mean Mizzou is trash. Northwestern was Q3 their metrics are that bad. Rutgers? LOL. When your best win is FAU a mid major with two Q4 losses, you cant be called elite. Anyone who does should be banned from commenting for a week on hoops.
Illinois has gotten a lot of hype lately on power rankings and its been wild.
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I even agree with Wadell on the Kansas remark that a team starting Emarko Jackson is questionable to be elite. KU keeps winning tho so not a terrible move, I just still dont think this is close to a usual Bill Self top 5 team.
But Illinois "with redacted" being elite is down right hilarious.
Its a win that will age well for us and they are good-great. But elite?? they dont have a damn PG. They lost to the two best teams they played.
Boat racing teams is good but I mean Mizzou is trash. Northwestern was Q3 their metrics are that bad. Rutgers? LOL. When your best win is FAU a mid major with two Q4 losses, you cant be called elite. Anyone who does should be banned from commenting for a week on hoops.
Illinois has gotten a lot of hype lately on power rankings and its been wild.
At the end of the day these shows are nothing but entertainment while we wait for our teams to play each week.
Field of 68 had Marquette as Title Contenders each of the past 2 seasons and they won 1 Tournament game.
All I know is that we are deep and if we are playing to our peak potential there isn't anyone this team can't beat.
That's all that matters.
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He's a pretty huge B1G fan iirc specifically MSU. The guy on the right is more objective about things. Also if you really want to cringe watch the clip where the left guy makes them do a white vs black draft. Painfully cringeworthy.
How old is that? Michigan State in the Top 20? That must be from November.
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How old is that? Michigan State in the Top 20? That must be from November.
No I think it was from after the Baylor win.
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I'm I the only one that didn't realize the Big Ten has 5 teams that have zero Q1 wins and 5 teams that only have 1??
Wow they are having a down year...
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No I think it was from after the Baylor win.
An yet the title bar across the bottom is "Are The Top 20 Teams Elite, Great...."
MSU was tied for 32nd by votes after Baylor.
I guess that sums up the level of sophistication and intelligence we are viewing.
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https://twitter.com/GoHFUTigers/status/1742756255993630786?t=-4oo28SIpI1oNRCS-CfxFA&s=19
Hell of a statline. 2nd quadruple double in D2 history. I think theres only been two (one men's, one women's) in D1 history.
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I'm not saying Shaka could had him.
But Nkhamoua from Michigan is a perfect example of why Shaka should try and fill holes through the Portal sometimes.
With him as a Omax replacement we are the run away best team in the country
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I'm not saying Shaka could had him.
But Nkhamoua from Michigan is a perfect example of why Shaka should try and fill holes through the Portal sometimes.
With him as a Omax replacement we are the run away best team in the country
Is that the transfer from Tennessee? That’s who I was really hoping Shaka would at least talk to (and maybe they did)
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Curious what people are thinking about the Purdue/Illinois game tonight. Should be a better game than Purdue has had in a while. I was a little surprised by the double-digit spread.
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Curious what people are thinking about the Purdue/Illinois game tonight. Should be a better game than Purdue has had in a while. I was a little surprised by the double-digit spread.
Home court and no Shannon...I get the double digit spread and I think Purdue will handle Illinois fairly easily. If the game was a little later in the season so that Illinois had time to adjust/retool, Purdue could have had their hands full.
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Couple great games on tonight on FS1. Uconn @ Butler followed by Illinois @ Purdue. Ill be cheering for Butler and Illinois. Not sure how much this moves the needle for us having Illinois beat a team we lost to but that road win continues to look better.
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I'm I the only one that didn't realize the Big Ten has 5 teams that have zero Q1 wins and 5 teams that only have 1??
Wow they are having a down year...
...and 2 of our losses are to a league having a down year.
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...and 2 of our losses are to a league having a down year.
I look at it this way- a furious rally to come back vs. the current #1 team but coming up just short of OT and a huge road win vs. Illinois. Now the UW loss? Yeah, that was bad but at least it was not on our home court.
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...and 2 of our losses are to a league having a down year.
The two teams we lost to have 4 Q1 wins apiece. Neither are included in the 10 UWW2MU mentioned. We've played the top three teams from the conference (none @ home btw), all of which are in the top 15 NET. The conference only has 2 other teams in the top 50 (MSU at 23 and OSU at 36, each of which are in the list that only has 1 Q1 win). The conference as a whole is down, but we've faced the absolute best it has to offer.
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The two teams we lost to have 4 Q1 wins apiece. Neither are included in the 10 UWW2MU mentioned. We've played the top three teams from the conference (none @ home btw), all of which are in the top 15 NET. The conference only has 2 other teams in the top 50 (MSU at 23 and OSU at 36, each of which are in the list that only has 1 Q1 win). The conference as a whole is down, but we've faced the absolute best it has to offer.
Yup. Marquette’s results up to this point are fine when it comes to obsessing over seeding come March.
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The two teams we lost to have 4 Q1 wins apiece. Neither are included in the 10 UWW2MU mentioned. We've played the top three teams from the conference (none @ home btw), all of which are in the top 15 NET. The conference only has 2 other teams in the top 50 (MSU at 23 and OSU at 36, each of which are in the list that only has 1 Q1 win). The conference as a whole is down, but we've faced the absolute best it has to offer.
This! ::)
I wasn't going to go there... but there are basically 4 teams in their conference who have performed this year (very roughly speaking). Of those, we played 3. We won one on the road, took the best one down to the wire w/in one possession, and then of course we lost to the other. I'm not losing sleep over that.
But the whole point was just surprise at what is going on. Very much under performed as a whole in the non-conference this year. Maybe we won't see them get an egregious number of teams in the tournament finally?
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The two teams we lost to have 4 Q1 wins apiece. Neither are included in the 10 UWW2MU mentioned. We've played the top three teams from the conference (none @ home btw), all of which are in the top 15 NET. The conference only has 2 other teams in the top 50 (MSU at 23 and OSU at 36, each of which are in the list that only has 1 Q1 win). The conference as a whole is down, but we've faced the absolute best it has to offer.
Right. Our three losses are Q1 games away from home. And we have two great wins away from home already. On paper, that Illinois win is one of the best for any CBB team all year. Top 10 road wins are not all that frequent.
Only three Kenpom top ten teams have lost at home. Illinois to MU. Duke to AZ. Alabama to Clemson.
That's an excellent win.
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Completely forgot that Curbelo transferred down from SJ to Southern Miss.
https://x.com/robdauster/status/1743108653408755736?s=46
Good to see he still can’t shoot, even in the Sun Belt. Remember when people were saying he was a first team All-B10 lock going into our first matchup with U of I two years ago and then got completely locked up
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I found the stat about MU and KY interesting. This is from an article @ NCAA.com (https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2024-01-04/why-one-these-top-11-teams-2024s-first-ap-poll-will-be-title-threat-come-march) about the top 11 teams in the latest AP poll.
No. 7 Marquette. Mark this down if the Golden Eagles and Kentucky last long enough in March to play. They have faced one another 10 times in the NCAA tournament, more than any other pairing.
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6 point favorites on the road!
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Sy is 5th in the nation in assists at 7.2/gm, including 10 against a school Rico has probably mentioned on his daily schedule-Marywood
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Sy is 5th in the nation in assists at 7.2/gm, including 10 against a school Rico has probably mentioned on his daily schedule-Marywood
Turnover rate down to just… 25%. Belllccchhhhhh
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Turnover rate down to just… 25%. Belllccchhhhhh
Cant ypu just be happy for a former player?
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I think MU being a 6 pt favorite is too high
I think it’s a toss up
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I think MU being a 6 pt favorite is too high
I think it’s a toss up
I don't and it shouldn't be a toss-uo. Attack and take care of business.
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Illinois crapping the bed early.
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Missing a star player while on the road against #1? Weird.
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Missing a star player while on the road against #1? Weird.
It's more than that.
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Missing a star player while on the road against #1? Weird.
Illinois fans were claiming that they look just as good or better without Shannon because the ball moves more.
Im guessing they probably shoulda considered the strength of opponent a bit more
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Edey getting called for two fouls in a minute is an interesting development.
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Edey getting called for two fouls in a minute is an interesting development.
It's a good development.
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Illinois fans were claiming that they look just as good or better without Shannon because the ball moves more.
Im guessing they probably shoulda considered the strength of opponent a bit more
Sort of like Stevie shouldn't start?
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Illinois not attacking the basket with Edey out. Seems like a missed opportunity.
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Illinois not attacking the basket with Edey out. Seems like a missed opportunity.
Getting obliterated on the glass and from the trifecta line.
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Purdue got blitzed without Edey in for a while there
But have settled down and played well without him since
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Showing they are not a one man team.
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Showing they are not a one man team.
Showing they are about even on their home floor with a team also missing a star player
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Not a bright foul by Coleman Hawkins.
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Not a bright foul by Coleman Hawkins.
That guy complains about literally everything
Although he was extremely correct on the out of bounds call that went against Ill
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So Purdue without Edey isn’t a sub .500 team then?
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Renn is having a career night.
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Hummel just said Edey is the 2nd best player to ever play at Purdue behind G. Robinson. How good was Rick Mount?
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Jimmer Fredette mixed with Andrew Rowsey. All time great shooter. Slow, couldn't get his own shot at the pro level, bad defense.
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Hummel just said Edey is the 2nd best player to ever play at Purdue behind G. Robinson. How good was Rick Mount?
Internet is your friend. Google and read his wiki page.
First high school player to make it on Sports Illustrated cover. Legend in Indiana hs basketball.
Two time first team and one time second team All American. Played 3 years, no freshman at the time. Mainly played in ABA and nothing outstanding, but college, yes. No three point line during his time, probably would have averaged close to 40 ppg if it was in place.
How he is not the best player ever at Purdue is mind blowing. But, everyone has their opinion.
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I saw something on Twitter implying that Edey has made such improvements that he’s now viewed as a first round pick if not a lottery pick. I haven’t seen any mocks that bear that out but still seems crazy watching him. He’s just so unbelievably slow. Multiple Illini have blown by him as soon as he steps out at all. His offensive game will be far from unstoppable and his lack of quickness on both ends will make him unplayable. Nothing to negate his greatness in college but I just cant see him being a high pick.
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So Purdue without Edey isn’t a sub .500 team then?
Has someone said that??
Sub .500 wihtout him no.
Extremely mid and like mid Big 10?? Id say yeah.
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I thought KAT was the most punchable complainer about calls.
Coleman Hawkins makes KAT look front line supporter of refs.
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I thought KAT was the most punchable complainer about calls.
Coleman Hawkins makes KAT look front line supporter of refs.
He's beyond ridiculous.
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Internet is your friend. Google and read his wiki page.
First high school player to make it on Sports Illustrated cover. Legend in Indiana hs basketball.
Two time first team and one time second team All American. Played 3 years, no freshman at the time. Mainly played in ABA and nothing outstanding, but college, yes. No three point line during his time, probably would have averaged close to 40 ppg if it was in place.
How he is not the best player ever at Purdue is mind blowing. But, everyone has their opinion.
I'm just surprised an announcer that went to Purdue didn't mention him.
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Impressive resolve from the Illini on the road without Shannon.
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I'm just surprised an announcer that went to Purdue didn't mention him.
He took 29 shots per game as a Senior.
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He took 29 shots per game as a Senior.
Didn't they go-to the Final 4?
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Impressive resolve from the Illini on the road without Shannon.
It’s the danger with how Purdue plays late in games with big leads. They start stalling and concern more with using 25 seconds per possession instead of looking for shots. Leaves them vulnerable if the opponent makes any sort of an extended
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It’s the danger with how Purdue plays late in games with big leads. They start stalling and concern more with using 25 seconds per possession instead of looking for shots. Leaves them vulnerable if the opponent makes any sort of an extended
Yep. I don't trust them come tournament time JWags.
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I thought that would be a flagrant. Same thing they did to Chase last year.
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Hawkins lol
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That was crazy.
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Do we want TCU to beat Kansas?
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Do we want TCU to beat Kansas?
I personally don't have a problem with it.
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Do we want TCU to beat Kansas?
This morning, I would've said yes. Now I'd say no. My hope was that we would eventually get to #1 this year. It became unlikely when we lost at Providence and today it probably became impossible. So let the Jayhawks keep winning because it's the biggest feather in our resume cap.
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This morning, I would've said yes. Now I'd say no. My hope was that we would eventually get to #1 this year. It became unlikely when we lost at Providence and today it probably became impossible. So let the Jayhawks keep winning because it's the biggest feather in our resume cap.
Agree, and I loathe Kansas.
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This morning, I would've said yes. Now I'd say no. My hope was that we would eventually get to #1 this year. It became unlikely when we lost at Providence and today it probably became impossible. So let the Jayhawks keep winning because it's the biggest feather in our resume cap.
I think it will have minimal impact on our seeding.
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Wow. I'm surprised they stopped play there.
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Kansas about to get 2 and the ball for a cheapie win at phog allen.
We’re down 2 under a min.
Clear flagrant by the rules.
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Kansas about to get 2 and the ball for a cheapie win at phog allen.
We’re down 2 under a min.
Clear flagrant by the rules.
2, and the ball, plus TCU had a 5 on 4.
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Nebraska shoots 50% from three and loses by 16 at Wisconsin. That’s pretty impressive l.
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I think it will have minimal impact on our seeding.
The four teams on the 1-line last year took a combined 20 losses prior to Selection Sunday. 11/20 came to teams that were protected seeds in the NCAA Tournament. Just 3 of those losses came to teams that were not single digit seeds. Those are the best wins you can have in the country. It will absolutely matter to our seeding.
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Oklahoma is #11? They lost to the best team they played and their best win is Providence I guess? They just getting benefit of being a big name school with 1 loss? Cause their computer numbers aren’t any good
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Texas down 6 to TTU in Austin.
UGHHH.
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In a completely normal move, Juwan Howard names Phil martelli head coach for the Michigan game today.
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Emarion Ellis has left the team at Bradley.
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Wardled.
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Thank you Northwestern basketball.
Sincerely,
Everyone.
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I'm just surprised an announcer that went to Purdue didn't mention him.
rick mount was so B & W tv ago...??
rick mount was money!
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Was not expecting to see us as -10.5 favorites against a really good Butler team that is on a 3 game losing streak.
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Vegas has more faith in MU than the average scooper does.
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Was not expecting to see us as -10.5 favorites against a really good Butler team that is on a 3 game losing streak.
Please define "really good."
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Please define "really good."
Right? They're not that good. Maybe they go on a heater and spring the upset, but after watching them this week I'm not sold they're anything but average.
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Please define "really good."
Good enough to take a full strength Providence to overtime in Rhode Island.
Good enough to have a lead against UConn with about 10 minutes remaining in the 2nd half.
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Good enough to take a full strength Providence to overtime in Rhode Island.
Good enough to have a lead against UConn with about 10 minutes remaining in the 2nd half.
Still lost
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Golden
Seriously? I think your guy Zaide gets nice minutes in a blowout win.
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Xavier Johnson ejected for a flagrant 2, pulling a Davidson against Rutgers.
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Texas won at Cincy. Iowa St. up 2 on Houston late.
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We already knew this but there just isn't a dominant team.
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Milan Momcilovic for Iowa St great shot and free throws to win game! Would have been a nice get for MU, oh well
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Doubt #22 ever had MU high on his list, hey?
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Texas won at Cincy. Iowa St. up 2 on Houston late.
MU West beat what some consider all mighty HU here
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After getting boat raced in Madison, Nebraska has a free throw after the timeout to tie Purdue at the U4 in the 1st half.
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Boise State leads Colorado State 28-20 approaching halftime.
Marquette would take over the nation's longest home winning streak with a Boise State loss.
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After getting boat raced in Madison, Nebraska has a free throw after the timeout to tie Purdue at the U4 in the 1st half.
11 POINT HALFTIME LEAD FOR NEBRASKA. What a run they went on to close the half on the Boilermakers.
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11 POINT HALFTIME LEAD FOR NEBRASKA. What a run they went on to close the half on the Boilermakers.
There just isn't a dominant team.
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There just isn't a dominant team.
Greg Gard and the Badgers do not agree with your statement
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Greg Gard and the Badgers do not agree with your statement
Neither did Tommy Lloyd/Zona before they played FAU and Stanford.
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Greg Gard and the Badgers do not agree with your statement
Inside track to win the Big Ten if Purdue loses again, but I wouldn't say they are dominant. Just really good.
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Nebraska up 12 over Purdue with 1:08 left.
Edit-Final: N 88 P 72
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Purdue blown out by Nebraska. Houston loses to Iowa State.
We need to relax about that Seton Hall game.
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Zero great teams.
Zero.
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Good enough to take a full strength Providence to overtime in Rhode Island.
Good enough to have a lead against UConn with about 10 minutes remaining in the 2nd half.
So … pretty good.
But I agree that 10.5 seems like a lot. Unless MU is on. Then it’s too little.
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So … pretty good.
But I agree that 10.5 seems like a lot. Unless MU is on. Then it’s too little.
Up to -12 just before the calendar turns over to GameDay.
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Up to -12 just before the calendar turns over to GameDay.
It’s a ton of points, yes. Even if Marquette is a real good team with the longest home winning streak in Big East history.
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Zero great teams.
Zero.
Maybe getting punched in the mouth will help MU? This team has every opportunity to make some noise if our top 3 get back to shredding dudes and hammer dropping. I really hope tonight we break out.
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Maybe getting punched in the mouth will help MU? This team has every opportunity to make some noise if our top 3 get back to shredding dudes and hammer dropping. I really hope tonight we break out.
What should the spread be Muggsy? 5 points?
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Idk - butler plays zero defense and we’re a wagon at home. Only issue w 12 points is butler won’t foul at the end of the game if it’s remotely close and we miss out on those freebies.
The over is the play here tonight folks.
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Maybe getting punched in the mouth will help MU?
Teams that face adversity and are able to overcome it can go on to have very successful seasons. UConn 2023 is an obvious example, but there are dozens of others. Including Marquette 2023.
I don't know that Marquette "needed" to be punched in the mouth, and none of us knows if the punching is over, but sure, it could be something that makes our guys stronger. Or not. We'll see!
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What should the spread be Muggsy? 5 points?
The home team gets 5 points. On a neutral court, MU is five points better than Butler. Seems justified.
#justmakebaby
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The home team gets 5 points. On a neutral court, MU is five points better than Butler. Seems justified.
#justmakebaby
I really don't pay much attention to the spread. If you're asking me do I think we're 10 points better than Butler in Milwaukee? I would say yes 100/100 times Dr. B.
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Teams that face adversity and are able to overcome it can go on to have very successful seasons. UConn 2023 is an obvious example, but there are dozens of others. Including Marquette 2023.
I don't know that Marquette "needed" to be punched in the mouth, and none of us knows if the punching is over, but sure, it could be something that makes our guys stronger. Or not. We'll see!
We know that we could play better going forward or we could play worse going forward, and that we'll get to see. You constantly make fun of GE03 for his double sided predictions so he can't be wrong. But you're absolutely no better.
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The home team gets 5 points. On a neutral court, MU is five points better than Butler. Seems justified.
#justmakebaby
My joke fell flat. Sad Trombone
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We know that we could play better going forward or we could play worse going forward, and that we'll get to see. You constantly make fun of GE03 for his double sided predictions so he can't be wrong. But you're absolutely no better.
I don't make predictions, he does. And he crows about the ones he gets right, I don't. And again, he's a big boy who can defend himself (and does).
Again though, thanks for being the Scoop Police.
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Maybe getting punched in the mouth will help MU? This team has every opportunity to make some noise if our top 3 get back to shredding dudes and hammer dropping. I really hope tonight we break out.
I don’t remember, did the nut punch help long term, hey?
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Good teams don’t lose to unranked teams. It just never happens to good teams. Period.
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Badgers get the win. Crisp, composed and clutch. Playing like a team that could get to Phoenix.
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UCLA has fired Mick Cronin.
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UCLA lol
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Badgers get the win. Crisp, composed and clutch. Playing like a team that could get to Phoenix.
I said when Marquette lost that it was not a bad loss and more than likely top 15 team. Their schedule is actually on the easier side for the big ten. I’m could see them winning it outright. Wisconsin already has a 2 game lead over Purdue and looking at the schedule Wisconsin could start out 9-0 before heading to Nebraska.
Phoenix though is laughable
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Izzo seemed upset last night by the officiating.
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Badgers get the win. Crisp, composed and clutch. Playing like a team that could get to Phoenix.
Storr has been excellent for them. But the B18 hasn't impressed me at all.
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Badgers get the win. Crisp, composed and clutch. Playing like a team that could get to Phoenix.
Not laughable. There is constant discussion here about there being no great teams this season. If Wiscy can keep on keeping on, why shouldn't they have a high seed? If they are playing well, why not them?
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Not laughable. There is constant discussion here about there being no great teams this season. If Wiscy can keep on keeping on, why shouldn't they have a high seed? If they are playing well, why not them?
Who's laughing?? It's disturbing and I wish them misery and failure. :)
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Always. But objectively, with the way this season is going, it would not surprise me.
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Not laughable. There is constant discussion here about there being no great teams this season. If Wiscy can keep on keeping on, why shouldn't they have a high seed? If they are playing well, why not them?
You're gonna pay for this honest opinion Tower.
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UCLA has fired Mick Cronin.
Cronin has a $20 million reciprocal buyout, which is down from $24 million. It decreases annually.
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Not laughable. There is constant discussion here about there being no great teams this season. If Wiscy can keep on keeping on, why shouldn't they have a high seed? If they are playing well, why not them?
I said they'd finish as a 2 or 3 seed and maybe not lose a Big Ten game until February and basically got laughed at.
It was clear as day as the season progressed and they beat up on us and some others that they are really good with a real shot to advance far in March. Sucks but it is what it is. Also the Big Ten stinks after the top 3.
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You're gonna pay for this honest opinion Tower.
Meh.
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Cronin has a $20 million reciprocal buyout, which is down from $24 million. It decreases annually.
Kind of. There’s a requirement for him to try to find other employment… and such employment will reduce what UCLA shall pay
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Kind of. There’s a requirement for him to try to find other employment… and such employment will reduce what UCLA shall pay
???
Cronin’s buyout decreases annually:
$24 million
$20 million
$16 million
$10 million
$6 million
$2 million
(His contract also includes 7 figure retention bonuses plus camp bonuses)
If Cronin is fired UCLA has to pay the buyout. (number depends on the year) If Cronin leaves on his own, Cronin has to pay the buyout number depending on the year.
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???
If Cronin is fired UCLA has to pay the buyout.
This is false. Read the offset provisions.
Excluding certain tax obligations that may arise early, the school pays out monthly over the original term. Amounts paid are offset/reduced by $$ he makes at another job.
See Item 12 in the contract. Don’t just read nonsense on the internet.
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This is false. Read the offset provisions.
Excluding certain tax obligations that may arise early, the school pays out monthly over the original term. Amounts paid are offset/reduced by $$ he makes at another job.
See Item 12 in the contract. Don’t just read nonsense on the internet.
First, let’s not make incorrect assumptions.
2nd, I think you are arguing pedantically with yourself.
3rd post a link to the contract or item 12 in the contract since you are suggesting you have access to the contract.
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First, let’s not make incorrect assumptions.
2nd, I think you are arguing pedantically with yourself.
3rd post a link to the contract or item 12 in the contract since you are suggesting you have access to the contract.
I read coaching contracts as a hobby and have for years. Respect the craft!
https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/7d/fa/56435b2f41b28b5f3575b651cf8b/micks-2022-contract.pdf
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I read coaching contracts as a hobby and have for years. Respect the craft!
https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/7d/fa/56435b2f41b28b5f3575b651cf8b/micks-2022-contract.pdf
Lol. Really?
You are going to pedantically argue that Cronin would receive a reduction difference of the buyout based on new compensation elsewhere over the period of time of his original UCLA contract?
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I read coaching contracts as a hobby and have for years. Respect the craft!
https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/7d/fa/56435b2f41b28b5f3575b651cf8b/micks-2022-contract.pdf
Truly JB Truly
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I read coaching contracts as a hobby and have for years. Respect the craft!
https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/7d/fa/56435b2f41b28b5f3575b651cf8b/micks-2022-contract.pdf
JB is correct. This is a fairly standard provision in coaching contracts as well.
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JB is correct. This is a fairly standard provision in coaching contracts as well.
As I recall, MU had a similar provision with Mike Deane. Lamar hired him and MU still paid most of his salary.
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JB is correct. This is a fairly standard provision in coaching contracts as well.
it’s also why posting 3 times about something fairly standard and understood is pedantic. It’s not seeing the forest for the trees about a very large buyout.
This is after all the same school that refused to pay an $8 million buyout for Rick Barnes and a $5 million buyout for Jamie Dixon 4 years ago during their 100 day search for Cronin.
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it’s also why posting 3 times about something fairly standard and understood is pedantic. It’s not seeing the forest for the trees about a very large buyout.
This is after all the same school that refused to pay an $8 million buyout for Rick Barnes and a $5 million buyout for Jamie Dixon 4 years ago during their 100 day search for Cronin.
If posting three times about it is pedantic, what does constantly responding make uou ?
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If posting three times about it is pedantic, what does constantly responding make uou ?
Unsurprisingly you always seem to have things backwards.
My question marks to better understand the point he as trying to make wasn’t being pedantic. My reading a copy of the contract he posted wasn’t being pedantic.
Responding isn’t the same thing as initiating.
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it’s also why posting 3 times about something fairly standard and understood is pedantic. It’s not seeing the forest for the trees about a very large buyout.
This is after all the same school that refused to pay an $8 million buyout for Rick Barnes and a $5 million buyout for Jamie Dixon 4 years ago during their 100 day search for Cronin.
I think you really believe UCLA is going to pay $20M. They’re not.
There are plenty of coaching contracts that do not have such an offset.
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Unsurprisingly you always seem to have things backwards.
My question marks to better understand the point he as trying to make wasn’t being pedantic. My reading a copy of the contract he posted wasn’t being pedantic.
Responding isn’t the same thing as initiating.
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Trolling will always be on the troll.
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I think you really believe UCLA is going to pay $20M. They’re not.
There are plenty of coaching contracts that do not have such an offset.
The question is what is "reasonable compensation consistent with the coach's experience" in light of being fired with a 6-10 record capped with his former team's second worse loss of all time.
Who would hire him at this point?
He's not going to get another high-major offer. Let's face it--Wojo and Crean are more employable than Cronin right now, and neither of them are working. If he wants to move into broadcasting, a network will give him a lowball offer on the basis that he's never been a broadcaster before, and UCLA will have to make good on most of the buyout.
Maybe he's a fit at DePaul--probably the only program in the country that would consider UCLA's performance this year a step in the right direction.
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I said they'd finish as a 2 or 3 seed and maybe not lose a Big Ten game until February and basically got laughed at.
It was clear as day as the season progressed and they beat up on us and some others that they are really good with a real shot to advance far in March. Sucks but it is what it is. Also the Big Ten stinks after the top 3.
My man ... you also talked up Madison's prospects last season, saying they were real good and that they "always find a way." But they weren't real good. And the only thing they found a way to was the NIT.
We get it, you like Bucky. And every year, you predict that they're gonna be real good. So sometimes you'll be right, and sometimes you'll be wrong.
It looks like your guys will do pretty well this season. Congrats.
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I think you really believe UCLA is going to pay $20M. They’re not.
There are plenty of coaching contracts that do not have such an offset.
The very large buyout is the forest. The reduced amounts of $24 million annually are the trees.
If Cronin is terminated without cause, and he decides to sit on the beach, UCLA will have to pay him the amount owed to him at the time. That amount began at $24 million and is now at $20 million.
If Cronin does not get fired, and he leaves for another school, that school will have to pay UCLA whatever the buyout amount is at the time.
If Cronin gets fired without cause, and he coaches elsewhere, the amount owed to him depends on his new deal. And yes, this is common.
Anything else?
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Trolling will always be on the troll.
Enquiring minds are asking - are you even a Marquette basketball fan or do you simply enjoy posting and arguing minutiae on a Marquette message board?
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Enquiring minds are asking - are you even a Marquette basketball fan or do you simply enjoy posting and arguing minutiae on a Marquette message board?
Projection is alive and well as you follow me around the board.
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Projection is alive and well as you follow me around the board.
Odd way to answer a yes or no question…
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Villanova is going to be a handful on Monday. That Hauser kid hot 5 threes I. The first half vs DePaul. They are playing very well . Need out A game. Go Marquette!
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Villanova is going to be a handful on Monday. That Hauser kid hot 5 threes I. The first half vs DePaul. They are playing very well . Need out A game. Go Marquette!
This is a make or break game for me. we’re in big trouble if we come out flat in a pivotal game at home against a good team, after such a poor performance. Need to win emphatically.
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This is a make or break game for me. we’re in big trouble if we come out flat in a pivotal game at home against a good team, after such a poor performance. Need to win emphatically.
Agree we need a win! Dixon is a hand ful as well. We need our A game. VN tied for first in BEast at 4-1
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This is a make or break game for me. we’re in big trouble if we come out flat in a pivotal game at home against a good team, after such a poor performance. Need to win emphatically.
I couldn't agree more. I think it's a game that we absolutely have to get and potentially a barometer for the rest of the BEast schedule.
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I agree… Monday is a must win.
If they can’t right the ship ( even with lots of adversity) … then this season may really be in the tank. A loss makes them 2 - 4 going to SJU. And right now one has to assume that’s a loss …
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Could be another day of upsets. Tennessee down with few mins left. I have Houston losing to TCU and wouldn’t be surprised if Oklahoma beat Kansas
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I will bet the top 2 teams in the Big Ten will not end up being Purdue and Wisconsin.
I still think Purdue finishes Top 2.
I have been impressed with Illinois without TSJ though. They have solid depth.
UW picks up their 6th consecutive win, 12 of 13.
Michigan State and Michigan are each 1-4 in league. Nebraska lost at Iowa after beating Purdue.
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UW picks up their 6th consecutive win, 12 of 13.
Congrats!
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I still think Purdue finishes Top 2.
I have been impressed with Illinois without TSJ though. They have solid depth.
UW picks up their 6th consecutive win, 12 of 13.
Michigan State and Michigan are each 1-4 in league. Nebraska lost at Iowa after beating Purdue.
Purdue plays at Indiana on Tuesday. If they lose that game and go down 3 games to Wisconsin I don’t see them crawling out of it.
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Congrats!
I'm certainly not one to congratulate. Grinds my gears. Just how they operate in the regular season.
I also cannot believe Lunardi has Michigan State as an 8 seed. That is unbelievable.
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Purdue plays at Indiana on Tuesday. If they lose that game and go down 3 games to Wisconsin I don’t see them crawling out of it.
Purdue and Wisconsin play twice, so still a pretty clear path for Purdue to make up their deficit. And considering Indiana this year, I would be very surprised if they beat Purdue.
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Purdue and Wisconsin play twice, so still a pretty clear path for Purdue to make up their deficit. And considering Indiana this year, I would be very surprised if they beat Purdue.
Brew, why do you think Lunardi has MSU as an 8 and you an 11? 8 seems incredibly lazy by him.
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Brew, why do you think Lunardi has MSU as an 8 and you an 11? 8 seems incredibly lazy by him.
I think it's probably laziness and brand name recognition. Personally I think Gonzaga as a 9-seed non-autobid is even lazier. The Zags have no Q1 wins nor wins against the field.
But at this point, it gets really muddy around the 9 line. I was discussing with some other bracketologists today and there are teams you can argue being anywhere from the 6 line to completely out of the field depending on what you value. Looking at Michigan State, if you put a lot of emphasis on the Baylor, Butler, and Indiana State wins along with putting an emphasis on predictive metrics, I can see moving them up. For me, the overall record and quantity of losses is too egregious to have them that high.
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I think it's probably laziness and brand name recognition. Personally I think Gonzaga as a 9-seed non-autobid is even lazier. The Zags have no Q1 wins nor wins against the field.
But at this point, it gets really muddy around the 9 line. I was discussing with some other bracketologists today and there are teams you can argue being anywhere from the 6 line to completely out of the field depending on what you value. Looking at Michigan State, if you put a lot of emphasis on the Baylor, Butler, and Indiana State wins along with putting an emphasis on predictive metrics, I can see moving them up. For me, the overall record and quantity of losses is too egregious to have them that high.
I kinda have that worry with us. Losses getting up there fast. Thank goodness for those 3 Q1A's.
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2 clutch free throws by Sheppard of Kentucky.
.5 seconds left in the game, down 2. He went to the line laughing and sunk em both.
OT.
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2 clutch free throws by Sheppard of Kentucky.
.5 seconds left in the game, down 2. He went to the line laughing and sunk em both.
OT.
Kentucky sucks
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Afternoon action: Losses by #6 Kentucky, #9 Oklahoma, #19 San Diego State and #20 Utah State.
What a week.
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Afternoon action: Losses by #6 Kentucky, #9 Oklahoma, #19 San Diego State and #20 Utah State.
What a week.
Utah State won (although I checked ESPN earlier and it said they lost) but your point still stands
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2 clutch free throws by Sheppard of Kentucky.
.5 seconds left in the game, down 2. He went to the line laughing and sunk em both.
OT.
That was egregious reffing. If Sheppard was fouled, it was on the rebound and there should've been another full second on the clock. But putting the clock at 0.6 shows the "foul" was while he was in the act of shooting based on when it left his fingers and there wasn't anything remotely resembling contact on the shot.
Served Kentucky right that they lost by more in OT than they would've had Sheppard just missed the second FT.
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Could be another day of upsets. Tennessee down with few mins left. I have Houston losing to TCU and wouldn’t be surprised if Oklahoma beat Kansas
Or maybe you were off on all of these??
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Or maybe you were off on all of these??
One can hope
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Utah State won (although I checked ESPN earlier and it said they lost) but your point still stands
Wild final sequence. Down 4, USU made a three and the refs whistled a foul elsewhere on the floor after the shot was off, so they gave two free throws. 5-point trip to give them the win. Danny Sprinkle is doing a hell of a job.
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Wild final sequence. Down 4, USU made a three and the refs whistled a foul elsewhere on the floor after the shot was off, so they gave two free throws. 5-point trip to give them the win. Danny Sprinkle is doing a hell of a job.
That foul was…questionable.
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Utah State won (although I checked ESPN earlier and it said they lost) but your point still stands
Damn ESPN! That's where I got the final from, too.
We regret the error, even if dooooomed, Emmy-lying ESPN doesn't.
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Well Texas is hot garbage
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Arizona loses to Washington State.
Texas loses to a pretty horrible West Virginia. That win is not aging like we hoped. Better than a loss I suppose.
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TCU takes down #9 Oklahoma and #2 Houston this week.
Houston goes 0-2 on the week after being the last undefeated in the country.
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Arizona loses to Washington State.
Texas loses to a pretty horrible West Virginia. That win is not aging like we hoped. Better than a loss I suppose.
I suppose.
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Arizona loses to Washington State.
Texas loses to a pretty horrible West Virginia. That win is not aging like we hoped. Better than a loss I suppose.
Ya think?
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If we beat Butler, we would have been near top 5 with all the upsets…. Might be out of top 20 on Monday, but hopefully still ranked.
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Thanks to the other losses …
MU will still be ranked … but the loss to Butler is a REALLY bad loss
Monday is a must win
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Agree.
Just need the shots to drop.
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Jonas Aidoo with 10 points, 15 rebounds and 5 blocks.
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Illinois on upset alert vs Maryland. At home.
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A much, much worse than MU had to Butler.
Butler (62 net) and Maryland (118).
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The Badgers waltz to the Big 10 title just got easier.
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The Badgers waltz to the Big 10 title just got easier.
At some point you just have to tip your hat to them. They put themselves in the position they are in.
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Long season.
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From The Athletic:
North Carolina has gone from 46th in adjusted defense last season to fifth this year. During its six-game winning streak, the Heels have the best defense in college hoops, per Bart Torvik’s sorting tool, allowing only 0.836 points per possession during that stretch. UNC’s defense is also 8.8 points per 100 possessions better than the second-best defense (Notre Dame) during ACC play.
First thing that jumped out on me was the ND has the second-best defense in the ACC.
But those are impressive numbers for Hubert Davis' defense.
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From The Athletic:
North Carolina has gone from 46th in adjusted defense last season to fifth this year. During its six-game winning streak, the Heels have the best defense in college hoops, per Bart Torvik’s sorting tool, allowing only 0.836 points per possession during that stretch. UNC’s defense is also 8.8 points per 100 possessions better than the second-best defense (Notre Dame) during ACC play.
First thing that jumped out on me was the ND has the second-best defense in the ACC.
But those are impressive numbers for Hubert Davis' defense.
But their numbers weren't as impressive vs Nova, Kentucky, and UCONN. Aren't the stats a bit skewed based on their recent competition?
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But their numbers weren't as impressive vs Nova, Kentucky, and UCONN. Aren't the stats a bit skewed based on their recent competition?
Oklahoma, Clemson and NC State aren't bad teams. And like most teams, UNC has a tougher time against the best opponents on its schedule. Time will tell on all of this. For a program like UNC, March is everything.
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Oklahoma, Clemson and NC State aren't bad teams. And like most teams, UNC has a tougher time against the best opponents on its schedule. Time will tell on all of this. For a program like UNC, March is everything.
Nc state definitely bad.
Clemson frauds. Exciting frauds, but frauds.
Oklahoma most likely frauds.
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From The Athletic:
North Carolina has gone from 46th in adjusted defense last season to fifth this year. During its six-game winning streak, the Heels have the best defense in college hoops, per Bart Torvik’s sorting tool, allowing only 0.836 points per possession during that stretch. UNC’s defense is also 8.8 points per 100 possessions better than the second-best defense (Notre Dame) during ACC play.
First thing that jumped out on me was the ND has the second-best defense in the ACC.
But those are impressive numbers for Hubert Davis' defense.
I love shrew. There is so little talent on that ND team, but he is just scheming/willing them to be competitive.
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Clemson frauds. Exciting frauds, but frauds.
The fact that Brad Brownell has made it 14 seasons at Clemson is kind of amazing. He hasn't really done anything, but every so often puts together a good enough season to keep them happy. He probably gets another contract extension after this season even though they'll stumble to a 7 or 8 seed and lose in the first round.
It helps that there are zero expectations there but still...the guy's made millions being just above average.
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When he told them after the citadel game he would help them transfer to another school that was incredible. They apparently got the message. They still aren’t good but at least they are giving it their all. Seems like a good guy.
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The fact that Brad Brownell has made it 14 seasons at Clemson is kind of amazing. He hasn't really done anything, but every so often puts together a good enough season to keep them happy. He probably gets another contract extension after this season even though they'll stumble to a 7 or 8 seed and lose in the first round.
It helps that there are zero expectations there but still...the guy's made millions being just above average.
Would have been MU's destiny if they hired him. Good enough but not great enough.
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Would have been MU's destiny if they hired him. Good enough but not great enough.
Was he on MU's list one of the times the job became open? I don't remember. Do you think he was ever a serious candidate?
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Was he on MU's list one of the times the job became open? I don't remember. Do you think he was ever a serious candidate?
When Buzz was hired
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The fact that Brad Brownell has made it 14 seasons at Clemson is kind of amazing. He hasn't really done anything, but every so often puts together a good enough season to keep them happy. He probably gets another contract extension after this season even though they'll stumble to a 7 or 8 seed and lose in the first round.
It helps that there are zero expectations there but still...the guy's made millions being just above average.
It's funny because its become an inside joke in the industry too. Bang average and never leaves. Just like a cockroach.
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Please God don't let the Mich/Ohio St. game go to overtime. Both of these teams are garbage btw.
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Please God don't let the Mich/Ohio St. game go to overtime. Both of these teams are garbage btw.
Woof. Bad loss for the Buckeyes.
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The fact that Brad Brownell has made it 14 seasons at Clemson is kind of amazing. He hasn't really done anything, but every so often puts together a good enough season to keep them happy. He probably gets another contract extension after this season even though they'll stumble to a 7 or 8 seed and lose in the first round.
It helps that there are zero expectations there but still...the guy's made millions being just above average.
I mean they hired him off of 3 straight years of finishing 3rd in the Horizon and no postseason berths after a good first year. Almost like they knew they were getting a guy who would not be terrible but won’t be good enough to leave.
But he’s absolutely had the blessing of no/low expectations. Before they made that random S16, Clemson hadn’t won a round of 64 game in the NCAAs since 97.
Purnell set that ceiling of regular NCAA berths and never winning a game. Couple that with Clemson becoming a football monster at the same time and Brownell has had the perfect cover for mediocrity. Especially when he periodically gets them into the top 25.
What’s more surprising to me is their random offense exploding. Clemson averaged more than 71 points once. In the last 10 seasons. Normally around 66-67 PPG, B10 style slogs. His WSU teams scored even less….now they are averaging over 80 this year. Panda is not wrong calling them exciting but it’s so out of character
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It's funny because its become an inside joke in the industry too. Bang average and never leaves. Just like a cockroach.
He's on the hot seat every time his contract is close to being up, then has a better than expected season and earns an extension. They just need to put him on year-to-year and he'll have Clemson putting a national championship in basketball next to the football one in no time.
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Storr looks like a 1st round pick to me. Hopefully he goes pro in June.
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Thank you Penn St.
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Odd court storm. Wow.
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Storr looks like a 1st round pick to me. Hopefully he goes pro in June.
He's not on any mocks I've seen. Do they have any Seniors or are they all back?
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Thank you Penn St.
Losing to an absolute shyte Penn State team ... gotta love it. Now if only some folks will tell us again how Madison is a total lock for the B26 title.
Gard has obviously lost his team. They don't have any players other than their top 3.
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60+ free throws in this A&M/Arkansas game. Gross.
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He's not on any mocks I've seen. Do they have any Seniors or are they all back?
Wahl, who is using his covid bonus year this year.
Crowl and Klesmit use their covid bonus year next year.
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Losing to an absolute shyte Penn State team ... gotta love it. Now if only some folks will tell us again how Madison is a total lock for the B26 title.
Gard has obviously lost his team. They don't have any players other than their top 3.
Whisky couldn't guard at all.
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He's not on any mocks I've seen. Do they have any Seniors or are they all back?
He can't defend right now but his offensive ceiling is high imo.
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He's not on any mocks I've seen. Do they have any Seniors or are they all back?
Pretty sure Wahl is in his Covid year, so he’ll be done.
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Can someone explain the Storr love to me? I've seen it from a couple of people on and off scoop. Averaging 15/3/1 while shooting 31% from three I would put in the "very good" category, not the "great" category.
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Can someone explain the Storr love to me? I've seen it from a couple of people on and off scoop. Averaging 15/3/1 while shooting 31% from three I would put in the "very good" category, not the "great" category.
He's 6'7 and has an explosive first step. He's not an elite shooter but he's capable. I think his overall athleticism makes him a likely first rounder but I could be wrong.
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What a ridiculous finish in Arkansas. Wow.
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For those who would like specifics regarding tonight's games, Penn State 87, Wisconsin 83 Final.
Arkansas took down Texas A&M with a last second basket, 78-77.
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Watched a good amount of games tonight and most were so choppy. Fouls, timeouts and reviews.
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He's 6'7 and has an explosive first step. He's not an elite shooter but he's capable. I think his overall athleticism makes him a likely first rounder but I could be wrong.
Agreed, his athleticism is really good, explosive to the rim, not a great shooter but will improve as he gets older. He could be a first rounder this year.
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Can someone explain the Storr love to me? I've seen it from a couple of people on and off scoop. Averaging 15/3/1 while shooting 31% from three I would put in the "very good" category, not the "great" category.
Same, I was hearing NPOY buzz for him the other day and he doesn't even have third team All-American numbers. He's maybe second or third team in league, but that's about it.
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AJ Storr sucks
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Good game, Chucky. What a bum
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Can someone explain the Storr love to me? I've seen it from a couple of people on and off scoop. Averaging 15/3/1 while shooting 31% from three I would put in the "very good" category, not the "great" category.
Madison brought in a starter and solid contributor from the transfer portal; Marquette didn't. Madison is moving up in the rankings; Marquette is falling.
To answer your question, at least as it pertains to Scoop: Madison envy.
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Madison shot more free throws than PSU and made a higher percentage of 3s, but all I see is how bad the refs were and how lucky PSU got from 3.
Nothing about the 60% 2 point percentage they gave up though…
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Ole Miss gonna collect a lot of Ls in SEC play
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Texas stinks
Might be regretting the Terry hire right about now
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Texas stinks
Might be regretting the Terry hire right about now
They really didn’t have much choice. They’ll make a change after this year.
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Texas is quickly becoming one of those teams that starts the season highly regarded and misses the NCAA tournament completely.
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Texas is quickly becoming one of those teams that starts the season highly regarded and misses the NCAA tournament completely.
That happens when "horns down" is more important than playing basketball.
"Horns down" should be like #105 on the top 100 issues Texas basketball should be concerned about and not #1.
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Texas is quickly becoming one of those teams that starts the season highly regarded and misses the NCAA tournament completely.
Apparently Terry had to have a conversation with a couple of the UCF players in the handshake line because they did "horns down" symbols to the crowd. A couple of observations...
1. UT just created this mess with "horns down" went they went over the top about it when opposing players started to do it a few years ago. They should have just let it go. Now its like blood in the water.
2. They are going to get eaten alive in the SEC.
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Apparently Terry had to have a conversation with a couple of the UCF players in the handshake line because they did "horns down" symbols to the crowd. A couple of observations...
1. UT just created this mess with "horns down" went they went over the top about it when opposing players started to do it a few years ago. They should have just let it go. Now its like blood in the water.
2. They are going to get eaten alive in the SEC.
Calling student athletes classless while cursing them is the epitome of lack of self awareness.
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No idea what happened with such a similar roster, but MSU is hilariously bad.
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Too many mid range jumpers and missed free throws tonight.
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No idea what happened with such a similar roster, but MSU is hilariously bad.
They don’t do anything terribly or anything great.
Except free throws. They don’t get to the line and when they do, they don’t make them.
Metrics still like them a lot. Boom or bust come March. Can see it going either way.
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Too many mid range jumpers and missed free throws tonight.
That, too. Don’t shoot many 3’s even though they’re a decent 3-point shooting team. Not entirely sure what they’re doing on offense most nights
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Tie ball game between South Florida and Memphis 11 seconds
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South Florida comes from behind, was down 20 points in the first half to beat Memphis by one.
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South Florida comes from behind, was down 20 points in the first half to beat Memphis by one.
Excellent.
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Memphis can't make it easy. Always doing things the Hard a way.
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Memphis can't make it easy. Always doing things the Hard a way.
Lol
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Is Shannon on Illinois essentially out for the year?
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They don’t do anything terribly or anything great.
Except free throws. They don’t get to the line and when they do, they don’t make them.
Metrics still like them a lot. Boom or bust come March. Can see it going either way.
Walker is still really good. Last 4 min they just let him do his thing. But they did a lot of bozo stuff
Hoggard was throwing skip passes to spots that only had gophers. Hall was forcing turn around shots barely hitting rim. Couldnt hit free throws. Bizarre team
And it was a game where gophers had no PG like 20 Tos and massive foul trouble. Plus gophers are not good.
Will be interesting to see if Sparty can make the dance.
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Michigan is not a good basketball team.
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No idea what happened with such a similar roster, but MSU is hilariously bad.
No Joey
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No Joey
Sure. The worst era of Michigan State under Izzo coincided with Joey. Probably trying to get that Hauser stink out of the arena
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Is Shannon on Illinois essentially out for the year?
(https://i.giphy.com/ChmEWOL7Vaz5u.webp)
Probably?
Unknown at this time. I think that's the general assumption, but he's appealing the decision to suspend him from the team and no one knows the timetable of his trial. If charges were dropped or he were acquitted, he would probably be back eligible, but that seems like a big if to have either of those happen between now and March.
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Was looking at how the other in-state teams are doing and saw that Keeyan had a nice game against UWM- 14 pts 7 rebounds.
Also UWGB is tied for first at 7-2 in the Horizon. Bo's kid must have been a truly awful coach.
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Was looking at how the other in-state teams are doing and saw that Keeyan had a nice game against UWM- 14 pts 7 rebounds.
Also UWGB is tied for first at 7-2 in the Horizon. Bo's kid must have been a truly awful coach.
He’s probably good at murder, though
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A court says Shannon can play.
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A court says Shannon can play.
I’m guessing Illinois will not, though.
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I’m guessing Illinois will not, though.
Are they still able to not play him? My reading is that the TRO was granted against Illinois suspending him. I guess they can’t force Underwood to play him even if he’s eligible, but that’s a pretty brutal position to put Underwood in. I’m lighting the TAMU beacon to explain it like I’m an idiot.
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No idea what happened with such a similar roster, but MSU is hilariously bad.
Izzo called a play against Minnesota's 3-2 zone that may have been the best zone breaker I have seen recently. And if everybody starts doing it, it could end the 3-2 zone.
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Are they still able to not play him? My reading is that the TRO was granted against Illinois suspending him. I guess they can’t force Underwood to play him even if he’s eligible, but that’s a pretty brutal position to put Underwood in. I’m lighting the TAMU beacon to explain it like I’m an idiot.
What a weird and uncomfortable situation for everyone. The university clearly does not want him there; and "are continuing to review the court order", to possibly appeal?
I would have thought if UofI wanted him back but had their hands tied by university policies, they would have been excited by the TRO and accept it as a final determination.
I wonder if he ultimately steps away due to lack of support by appealing the TRO, Underwood not playing him if Brad is privy to evidence and/or women's groups pressuring and protesting.
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I wouldn't assume that the university does not want him there. U of I was pretty much obligated to put on some sort of defense to its decision to suspend Shannon. As was pointed out earlier, U of I was in bind on this one. I had been convinced that Shannon was going to lose his TRO. I was surprised to learn from the opinion that there are separate policies for athletes and regular students, and the regular student process has due process components that are not present in the athlete policy. The judge noted that Shannon may still end up suspended but he is entitled to the due process components that regular students are entitled to because, after all, he is a student first (theoretically). The U of I just started the investigative part of the student due process policy on January 6. How fast that proceeds will be a clue as to the university position on whether it wants him there or not. My guess is Underwood is pretty much obligated to play him close to the same amount of minutes he was being played prior to the suspension or Shannon will be back before the judge forcing Underwood's hand.
I will defer to TAMU's read if he decides to jump in here.
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Can walk ons sue schools for not playing them?
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He is not obligated to play him. He isn't even obligated to put him on the roster. Illinois will likely be obligated to honor his scholarship if he continues to be enrolled.
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I wouldn't assume that the university does not want him there. U of I was pretty much obligated to put on some sort of defense to its decision to suspend Shannon. As was pointed out earlier, U of I was in bind on this one. I had been convinced that Shannon was going to lose his TRO. I was surprised to learn from the opinion that there are separate policies for athletes and regular students, and the regular student process has due process components that are not present in the athlete policy. The judge noted that Shannon may still end up suspended but he is entitled to the due process components that regular students are entitled to because, after all, he is a student first (theoretically). The U of I just started the investigative part of the student due process policy on January 6. How fast that proceeds will be a clue as to the university position on whether it wants him there or not. My guess is Underwood is pretty much obligated to play him close to the same amount of minutes he was being played prior to the suspension or Shannon will be back before the judge forcing Underwood's hand.
I will defer to TAMU's read if he decides to jump in here.
Fair enough. I just found it interesting that the university is continuing to review the TRO decision and not just accepting the decision and moving forward.
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Texas beats Baylor.
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Texas beats Baylor.
WILD finish.
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Texas beats Baylor.
Baylor’s second loss of the week. Lots of teams lost this week including the badgers to an abysmal Penn State. MU should be moving up.
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Never been so annoyed with a player that dominates like Edey. The guy throws elbows constantly, has guys get called constantly for fouls on him and yet he has 0 fouls at halftime. It’s literally impossible to be that big and never get called for a foul.
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Texas beats Baylor.
I like that result, and would like to see Texas put it together over the next month.
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Only 10 min in
But UCLA punching Zona in the mouth
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Only 10 min in
But UCLA punching Zona in the mouth
Update:
UCLA up 11 with 10 minutes left.
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Kansas down 5 at West Virginia with 6 minutes left.
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Uodate:
UCLA up 11 with 10 minutes left.
Zona won the stretch run
Cronin def does seem to have been big issue tho
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Kansas loses at West Virginia.
Zona won the stretch run
Cronin def does seem to have been big issue tho
Impressive comeback by Arizona.
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Thank you Pitt.
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Thank you Pitt.
https://diddukewin.com/
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Thank you Pitt.
Duke is a weak team playing a Mickey Mouse schedule. Their resume is a joke compared to MU’s. No business being #7.
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Duke is a weak team playing a Mickey Mouse schedule. Their resume is a joke compared to MU’s. No business being #7.
They're 11th on Kenpom for some reason. The only team they have beaten is Baylor.
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Duke is a weak team playing a Mickey Mouse schedule. Their resume is a joke compared to MU’s. No business being #7.
ACC is a joke
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Are they still able to not play him? My reading is that the TRO was granted against Illinois suspending him. I guess they can’t force Underwood to play him even if he’s eligible, but that’s a pretty brutal position to put Underwood in. I’m lighting the TAMU beacon to explain it like I’m an idiot.
Regarding playing time for Shannon, as of now, they can continue to not play him. The TRO means that he must be allowed to attend classes and receive any other educational benefit that he was previously receiving. Playing time, hell even practice time, is not an educational benefit.
All that being said, lawsuits have been attempted before in similar situations trying to force schools to play players. To my knowledge, none have been successful. I mean, imagine the logistics of that. Judge issues a court order saying a player must play X number of minutes a game. What if the player has a bad night? Or picks up 3 fouls in the first half? I don't think any judge would be eager to intervene....But....I'm not aware of a similar situation with this high profile of an athlete. Shannon may have an easier time arguing the damage a lack of playing time is having on him. Draw the right judge and convince them that not playing Shannon is a punishment without due process....I've seen crazier decisions.
I don't know what Illinois will do here. I thought they might just play the "well we tried to do the right thing but that darn judge says we have to play him" card. But their initial reaction leads me to think that they'll continue to sit him. It shouldn't be this way, but I imagine the details of the criminal case will play a role in the decision. Not all DAs are the same, but my experience with most DAs is that they will not issue an arrest warrant on a sexual assault case unless they think it is a winner. Criminal sexual assault is very difficult to prove. If the DA thinks they could win, I doubt the details are good.
I wouldn't assume that the university does not want him there. U of I was pretty much obligated to put on some sort of defense to its decision to suspend Shannon. As was pointed out earlier, U of I was in bind on this one. I had been convinced that Shannon was going to lose his TRO. I was surprised to learn from the opinion that there are separate policies for athletes and regular students, and the regular student process has due process components that are not present in the athlete policy. The judge noted that Shannon may still end up suspended but he is entitled to the due process components that regular students are entitled to because, after all, he is a student first (theoretically). The U of I just started the investigative part of the student due process policy on January 6. How fast that proceeds will be a clue as to the university position on whether it wants him there or not. My guess is Underwood is pretty much obligated to play him close to the same amount of minutes he was being played prior to the suspension or Shannon will be back before the judge forcing Underwood's hand.
I will defer to TAMU's read if he decides to jump in here.
I was floored when I read that piece. It is incredibly stupid to have separate processes for athletes and non-athletes. For more reasons than just this. That was a common practice 10-15 years ago, but the vast majority of universities have moved away from that. Irresponsible on U of I's part.
There are very clear requirements for suspending a student for a Title IX violation prior to a finding that are detailed in the Trump-era regulations (which are still in effect now). Without going into the weeds too much, universities are required to a do a hearing that both the complainant and respondent have the right to participate in and make a decision on the necessity of punishing the respondent prior the respondent being found responsible and a certain standard needs to be met. If Illinois skipped this because of his status as an athlete, than the TRO is absolutely warranted.
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Well, hes currently playing immediately
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Well, hes currently playing immediately
…therefore…hopefully he’ll hit the game winner to beat Wisconsin
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The Athletic has quite an article about Kentucky's new in-season addition, a 7-2 Croatian sensation who apparently is part Dirk, part Wemby and part Kukoc.
https://theathletic.com/5216285/2024/01/20/kentucky-zvonimir-ivisic-debut-georgia/?source=pulsenewsletter&campaign=8750829
A little snippet:
John Calipari already had the most potent offense in America, and now the Wildcats add a 7-foot-2 center who protects the rim, passes with aplomb and splashes 3-pointers? Oh, come on. Kentucky ranked No. 1 nationally in scoring, No. 3 in turnover percentage, No. 5 in offensive efficiency, No. 7 in effective field-goal percentage and No. 9 in 3-point percentage — even before Zvonimir Ivisic jumped onto that moving train midseason and did his best Dirk Nowitzki impression Saturday in a 105-96 victory.
Throw tempered expectations out the window after this. In a surreal scene, Ivisic checked in with 16 minutes to go in the first half against Georgia and had a block, assist, steal and another assist in his first two and a half minutes of college basketball. The second assist sent the Rupp Arena crowd into convulsions of delirium as he zipped a behind-the-back pass to Antonio Reeves for a 3 that capped an 11-0 UK run with Ivisic on the court. But he was just getting started.
Ivisic became an instant Croatian sensation when he checked back in with 8:20 to go in the half and swished a 3, blocked another shot, snared a rebound, splashed a long 2-pointer, then another 3, then another. Four straight jumpers, nothing but net. He scored 11 points in less than three minutes. Ivisic blew the game open for Kentucky — the Cats were plus-20 in his eight first-half minutes — and the crowd nearly blew the roof off the building.
Is the rest of college basketball doomed this season? Or could they still lose to UNC-Wilmington even with this freak on the team?
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I guess Shannon is playing for Illinois.
Weird.
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FAU might be the most egregiously overrated team of the last like decade
Even if they come back to win this game. They are in a absolute dog fight or losing to garbage every single game.
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What an embarrassing week for Memphis losing to South Florida and Tulane this week.
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What an embarrassing week for Memphis losing to South Florida and Tulane this week.
It’s pretty incredible how consistently terrible Penny is as a coach. They scored 28 points in the first 8 min of the second half. Then Hunter made a few adjustments that naturally Penny had no answer for and they scored 17 the rest of the way and got completely handled the last 5 min of the game. They made 2 actual baskets the last 8 min of the game.
And then, down 2 with a full 15 seconds left, Penny chooses a minimal motion set with a single high screen for a contested 25 footer despite having superior inside talent and his team being ice cold from deep for 10 min. They are a dream tourney matchup for anyone
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What an embarrassing week for Memphis losing to South Florida and Tulane this week.
Many thanks to the mighty Green Wave.
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It’s pretty incredible how consistently terrible Penny is as a coach. They scored 28 points in the first 8 min of the second half. Then Hunter made a few adjustments that naturally Penny had no answer for and they scored 17 the rest of the way and got completely handled the last 5 min of the game. They made 2 actual baskets the last 8 min of the game.
And then, down 2 with a full 15 seconds left, Penny chooses a minimal motion set with a single high screen for a contested 25 footer despite having superior inside talent and his team being ice cold from deep for 10 min. They are a dream tourney matchup for anyone
Average age of Memphis - 23.2; Average age of San Antonio Spurs - 23.5.
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It’s pretty incredible how consistently terrible Penny is as a coach. They scored 28 points in the first 8 min of the second half. Then Hunter made a few adjustments that naturally Penny had no answer for and they scored 17 the rest of the way and got completely handled the last 5 min of the game. They made 2 actual baskets the last 8 min of the game.
And then, down 2 with a full 15 seconds left, Penny chooses a minimal motion set with a single high screen for a contested 25 footer despite having superior inside talent and his team being ice cold from deep for 10 min. They are a dream tourney matchup for anyone
Like MU yesterday, in the last 6:20, they scored two points. Both free throws by Kolek. Not one field goal made. MU got the win, Memphis got the loss.
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Average age of Memphis - 23.2; Average age of San Antonio Spurs - 23.5.
avg age of the Wisconsin Badgers, 38.
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Like MU yesterday, in the last 6:20, they scored two points. Both free throws by Kolek. Not one field goal made. MU got the win, Memphis got the loss.
I don’t follow Memphis well enough to know, but Wags seems to be saying this kind of thing is a pattern for Penny’s team.
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It’s pretty incredible how consistently terrible Penny is as a coach. They scored 28 points in the first 8 min of the second half. Then Hunter made a few adjustments that naturally Penny had no answer for and they scored 17 the rest of the way and got completely handled the last 5 min of the game. They made 2 actual baskets the last 8 min of the game.
And then, down 2 with a full 15 seconds left, Penny chooses a minimal motion set with a single high screen for a contested 25 footer despite having superior inside talent and his team being ice cold from deep for 10 min. They are a dream tourney matchup for anyone
Marquette is way way better, but I think both teams fall into my category of, could win or lose a second round tournament game by 20.
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I don’t follow Memphis well enough to know, but Wags seems to be saying this kind of thing is a pattern for Penny’s team.
Yep. Memphis is a glorified AAU team. Lot of talent, fun to watch when they are shooting well, but absolutely miserable at times cause Penny easily gets out coached they are are TERRIBLE end of game in close match ups.
MU was REALLY frustrating yesterday. But it happening against a greatly improved SJ team led by an absolute legend is different than the frequent failings by Memphis against very inferior teams
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I guess Shannon is playing for Illinois.
Weird.
Returning to a thunderous applause no less. This could age very very poorly.
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What an embarrassing week for Memphis losing to South Florida and Tulane this week.
Felt to me like water finding its level. They rose to #10 in large part because they got lucky to win two games in overtime, two games on buzzer-beaters, and generally winning by less impressive margins than their ranking would indicate. They were never as good as their ranking appeared and it caught up with them.
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MU ‘82 thanks for posting the Athletic article on the debut of the 7’ 2” Croatian. Maybe on the way to our NCAA Championship, Marquette and Kentucky can play a game that supplants the Laettner shot game with our Warriors winning 264-263. 🤣
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FAU might be the most egregiously overrated team of the last like decade
Even if they come back to win this game. They are in a absolute dog fight or losing to garbage every single game.
FAU has completed an extraordinary achievement in college basketball. Hitting for the CBB cycle, if you will.
Quad 1 Win
Quad 2 Win
Quad 3 Win
Quad 4 Win
Home Win
Road Win
Neutral Court Win
Quad 1 Loss
Quad 2 Loss
Quad 3 Loss
Quad 4 Loss
Home Loss
Road Loss
Neutral Court Loss
https://x.com/madeformarch/status/1749285241628344357?s=20
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Minnesota is so stationary on offense that it looks like Wisconsin is playing zone.
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Minnesota is so stationary on offense that it looks like Wisconsin is playing zone.
At least they have the Vikings
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Garcia isn't exactly lighting it up for the Gophers.
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Cant call myself a Gopher fan but as the local squad I obviously watch em and would like to see them do well if it doesnt impact MU
So that said, its lovely watching Klesmit nail big shots again.
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#6 Kentucky currently getting trucked by South Carolina in Columbia, 5 to play.
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It would be nice if Minnesota could make a freaking free throw.
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Fts no matta in Minnesota.
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Fts no matta in Minnesota.
Sad
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Texas up by 11 just under 5 to play at #11 Oklahoma
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Gard fouled up 3. Barely worked. But it worked.
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Fts no matta in Minnesota.
Cost them the game.
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Tell jb
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Minnesota is terrible btw.
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Minnesota is terrible btw.
Like I said, I watch them a lot around here when doesnt overlap our games.
They actually are not terrible. Johnson is just a horrible coach. They have talented players unlike the last two years. So he cant hide from it.
That play outta the last time out if you can call it that was hilarious.
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Texas up by 11 just under 5 to play at #11 Oklahoma
Big for us. Texas started off so horribly that i dont think they can ever get to a Q1 but still helps our win.
Also helps us jump OU(overrated as hell) in the rankings that dont matter. And keep them away from us in seeding.
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Big for us. Texas started off so horribly that i dont think they can ever get to a Q1 but still helps our win.
Also helps us jump OU(overrated as hell) in the rankings that dont matter. And keep them away from us in seeding.
The fighting Mosers in trouble. To be fair, I have no idea why they are ranked 11th.
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Big for us. Texas started off so horribly that i dont think they can ever get to a Q1 but still helps our win.
Also helps us jump OU(overrated as hell) in the rankings that dont matter. And keep them away from us in seeding.
Absolutely a net positive for MU.
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Like I said, I watch them a lot around here when doesnt overlap our games.
They actually are not terrible. Johnson is just a horrible coach. They have talented players unlike the last two years. So he cant hide from it.
That play outta the last time out if you can call it that was hilarious.
I don't see it. But I agree they're horribly coached.
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It would be nice if Minnesota could make a freaking free throw.
5-13 for 38% might be the worst I’ve seen
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There is so much parity this year no one is safe at home or the road. The tournament is going to be a blast like last year. Would not be surprised if a non top 3 seed won it again.
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Minnesota is terrible btw.
yet played UW better than MU did.
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5-13 for 38% might be the worst I’ve seen
We were just 3/9 a couple games ago
*edit days.
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yet played UW better than MU did.
That doesn't mean anything.
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We were just 3/9 a couple games ago
I took my son to monster truck at the fiserv on Saturday and didn’t see the game. 3-9 is sad wow
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I took my son to monster truck at the fiserv on Saturday and didn’t see the game. 3-9 is sad wow
Almost cost us the game. Inexcusable.
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Nice to see Fraudklahoma get crushed at home by scream we beat by 100.
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Nice to see Fraudklahoma get crushed at home by scream we beat by 100.
Wonder if their fans were saying the same thing about MU when MU lost by 100 to the Providence team they beat by 100.
Sports don’t really work like that.
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Wonder if their fans were saying the same thing about MU when MU lost by 100 to the Providence team they beat by 100.
Sports don’t really work like that.
Let us play Providence at home for a legit comp first
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Wonder if their fans were saying the same thing about MU when MU lost by 100 to the Providence team they beat by 100.
Sports don’t really work like that.
I know there's no "transitive property" to sports, but as a fan it's just fun to see something like that, especially since it would be nice if Texas could climb in the NET.
And we didn't lose to Providence at home by 1 or 100 or any count in between.
We did lose to Butler at home, and that sucked.
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You can take the asshat coach out of the hillbilly team, but they’re still asshats.
West Virginia’s RaeQuan Battle grabbing a #UCF cheerleader’s pom pom and tossing it on the ground moments before being ejected 😳
https://x.com/daniellanmedina/status/1749980841516712352?s=61&t=jsIZllSIAp6Fe-FmvZNVnw
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Nice to see Fraudklahoma get crushed at home by scream we beat by 100.
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/YvbCbjqFy7oAAAAC/omg-wtf.gif)
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(https://media1.tenor.com/m/YvbCbjqFy7oAAAAC/omg-wtf.gif)
Why the hell would autocorrect change team to scream? That's effen hilarious, and I'm not even gonna bother changing it now.
We Are Marquette! Go Scream!
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Why the hell would autocorrect change team to scream? That's effen hilarious, and I'm not even gonna bother changing it now.
We Are Marquette! Go Scream!
AI has observed the in game threads.
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Why the hell would autocorrect change team to scream? That's effen hilarious, and I'm not even gonna bother changing it now.
We Are Marquette! Go Scream!
Autocorrect can go straight to He'll!
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Cost them the game.
You can say that about the shots they missed too
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Almost cost us the game. Inexcusable.
Frankly I blame the easy an open shots missed for almost costing MU the game
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It’s been awhile since I’ve seen refs swallow the whistle like the have in this Bama-Auburn game. Guys getting DRILLED in the lane on both sides with no call
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Congrats to the fighting Wardles.
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Congrats to the fighting Wardles.
DePaul awaits
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Bama beat Auburn.
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It’s been awhile since I’ve seen refs swallow the whistle like the have in this Bama-Auburn game. Guys getting DRILLED in the lane on both sides with no call
What I saw of the Providence-Seton Hall game, it was like rugby out there.
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Not sure I saw this posted anywhere on here, sorry if I missed it.
Northwestern chants "NO MEANS NO" while Terrance Shannon Jr. shoots free throws.
https://twitter.com/AudreyPachuta/status/1750350576599105842?t=tmFDpvqevh3UrGo3TTS_cw&s=19
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That Oregon State step back 3 put the Kam moon ball to shame
Ball briefly left my tv screen it was so high
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That Oregon State step back 3 put the Kam moon ball to shame
Ball briefly left my tv screen it was so high
The result is good for MU in the t-25. :)
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More importantly, resume-wise, that's a Q3 loss for Arizona.
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More importantly, resume-wise, that's a Q3 loss for Arizona.
The bottom fell out of their NET ranking. Going from 3 to 4
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The bottom fell out of their NET ranking. Going from 3 to 4
https://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2024/01/bracketology-forget-about-net.html
NET doesn't matter, Q3 losses hurt resumes.
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https://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2024/01/bracketology-forget-about-net.html
NET doesn't matter, Q3 losses hurt resumes.
This is correct. Arizona is certainly off the 1-line for now and not even very comfortable as a 2-seed. Because of the Pac-12's weakness, their only opportunities to move the needle are at Oregon tomorrow and the Mountain road trip. They are probably looking at a 3-4 seed in the tournament considering their resume and remaining schedule.
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This is correct. Arizona is certainly off the 1-line for now and not even very comfortable as a 2-seed. Because of the Pac-12's weakness, their only opportunities to move the needle are at Oregon tomorrow and the Mountain road trip. They are probably looking at a 3-4 seed in the tournament considering their resume and remaining schedule.
Would you still have them ahead of us on your S-Curve right now?
I would think so, but just barely. The 6 Q1 wins is still really good, but I haven't looked at their schedule to see what chances they have to add to it, and we'll certainly have our opportunities.
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Would you still have them ahead of us on your S-Curve right now?
I would think so, but just barely. The 6 Q1 wins is still really good, but I haven't looked at their schedule to see what chances they have to add to it, and we'll certainly have our opportunities.
With luck I'll have an answer later today. At a quick glance, I'd lean Arizona, but it's close. The Q3 loss stands out as a blemish, but as you said, the 6-3 Q1 record is very good. I prefer their win column but our loss column. When it comes to NCAA seeding, wins usually trump losses.
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With luck I'll have an answer later today. At a quick glance, I'd lean Arizona, but it's close. The Q3 loss stands out as a blemish, but as you said, the 6-3 Q1 record is very good. I prefer their win column but our loss column. When it comes to NCAA seeding, wins usually trump losses.
Thanks, looking forward to the new bracket.
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Would you still have them ahead of us on your S-Curve right now?
I would think so, but just barely. The 6 Q1 wins is still really good, but I haven't looked at their schedule to see what chances they have to add to it, and we'll certainly have our opportunities.
FOr now, but with the way they are playing they may pick up more bad losses, with as Brew said minimal chances for more good wins.
They are very fortunate they pulled out that UCLA win last week.
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This year is college basketball is just weird. Winning on the road has never been an easy task but this year it seems almost impossible if you play on the road against a team with a pulse. Over the last 3 weeks there had to have been at minimum 15 upsets on the road. I don't think anyone is safe come NCAA tournament time.
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Hilarious that the same people that were crying about not being allowed to go out and "live their life" during the pandemic are the same ones that stay couped up in the suburbs because of the big scary city and the fact that if they come anywhere close to it they'll surely be gunned down.
But also, guns aren't a problem in this country.
🥨
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The James Harden travel that never gets called somehow. Markus did it a decent amount too.
Arizona has some clean uniforms.
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Hilarious that the same people that were crying about not being allowed to go out and "live their life" during the pandemic are the same ones that stay couped up in the suburbs because of the big scary city and the fact that if they come anywhere close to it they'll surely be gunned down.
But also, guns aren't a problem in this country.
🥨
Can someone please provide this Scooper with a map to the Superbar? It would seem he is lost.
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Can someone please provide this Scooper with a map to the Superbar? It would seem he is lost.
apparently I’m ‘lost’ too, at least according to junior boy Newsdreams.
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Hilarious that the same people that were crying about not being allowed to go out and "live their life" during the pandemic are the same ones that stay couped up in the suburbs because of the big scary city and the fact that if they come anywhere close to it they'll surely be gunned down.
But also, guns aren't a problem in this country.
🥨
so says triple vax Withoutbias. Wear your mask, stay 6’ apart. Please. Yours truly, Unvaxed and polishing my guns out here in the sticks.
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If I were not going to be at the Seton Hall game tomorrow, I'd be watching the Providence vs Georgetown game. Cooleys first game back in Providence,
Atmosphere before tipoff will be wild.
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With luck I'll have an answer later today. At a quick glance, I'd lean Arizona, but it's close. The Q3 loss stands out as a blemish, but as you said, the 6-3 Q1 record is very good. I prefer their win column but our loss column. When it comes to NCAA seeding, wins usually trump losses.
I did a quick scrub this morning. I feel pretty sure through the top 9. Then it gets trickier. My S-Curve so far:
1. Purdue
2. Houston
3. UConn
4. UNC
5. Tennessee (but very close to a 1)
6. Arizona (more likely to move down than up)
7. Kansas
8. Wisconsin
9. Marquette
Then it drops off. Got 7 teams in the next tier to sort through.
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If I were not going to be at the Seton Hall game tomorrow, I'd be watching the Providence vs Georgetown game. Cooleys first game back in Providence,
Atmosphere before tipoff will be wild.
Yeah im pumped that game starts a half hour earlier than ours
Thatll be a nice 30 min to kill watching the beginning of that.
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A bit of me wants Cooley to win in Providence just to see those fans absolutely lose their $hit. Did anyone watch the documentary divine Providence? They've got a blogger comparing Cooley to hitler for crying out loud.
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I did a quick scrub this morning. I feel pretty sure through the top 9. Then it gets trickier. My S-Curve so far:
1. Purdue
2. Houston
3. UConn
4. UNC
5. Tennessee (but very close to a 1)
6. Arizona (more likely to move down than up)
7. Kansas
8. Wisconsin
9. Marquette
Then it drops off. Got 7 teams in the next tier to sort through.
That illustrates - once again - what a great non-conference schedule Marquette had.
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A bit of me wants Cooley to win in Providence just to see those fans absolutely lose their $hit. Did anyone watch the documentary divine Providence? They've got a blogger comparing Cooley to hitler for crying out loud.
Friar Scoop has more nut jobs than MUScoop?
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I did a quick scrub this morning. I feel pretty sure through the top 9. Then it gets trickier. My S-Curve so far:
1. Purdue
2. Houston
3. UConn
4. UNC
5. Tennessee (but very close to a 1)
6. Arizona (more likely to move down than up)
7. Kansas
8. Wisconsin
9. Marquette
Then it drops off. Got 7 teams in the next tier to sort through.
The masses agree with you. Switch UConn and Houston and that's what bracket matrix has for the top 9
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Oregon State's head coach is Wayne Tinkle. He is the son of MU's former Dean of Men in the 1960's--also Wayne Tinkle.
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Oregon State's head coach is Wayne Tinkle. He is the son of MU's former Dean of Men in the 1960's--also Wayne Tinkle.
Aka Little Tinkle
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Oregon State's head coach is Wayne Tinkle. He is the son of MU's former Dean of Men in the 1960's--also Wayne Tinkle.
Any relation to NASCAR's Dick Trickle?
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The masses agree with you. Switch UConn and Houston and that's what bracket matrix has for the top 9
I slightly favor Houston based on their superior metrics. But both Houston and UConn are comfortable 1 seeds.
Purdue is a pretty clear #1 overall. 4-6 are pretty close, but like I said, Arizona has few chances to move up and is much more likely to move down in the long run.
Kansas, Wisconsin, and Marquette each have 2 games remaining vs projected 1 seeds. Great opportunities to climb the S-Curve.
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Friar Scoop has more nut jobs than MUScoop?
I think you may have briefly forgotten about one of our frequent posters Doc.
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Arizona is going to have a very interesting case. Yes, they have 6 quad 1 wins but it's evident they are not playing good basketball and have not for the last month. If I were to seed them right now, they would probably be the last 3 seed. They have lost 3 road games in the Pac-12 that were all mediocre teams at best. It took a 19-point come back Saturday to beat UCLA at home. They Play at Oregon Saturday which they will more than likely lose. The Pac-12 is so bad that even the wins they are compiling are all sub 100 RPIs so the schedule does nothing but hurt them. I think they ultimately finish as a 4 seed.
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I slightly favor Houston based on their superior metrics. But both Houston and UConn are comfortable 1 seeds.
Purdue is a pretty clear #1 overall. 4-6 are pretty close, but like I said, Arizona has few chances to move up and is much more likely to move down in the long run.
Kansas, Wisconsin, and Marquette each have 2 games remaining vs projected 1 seeds. Great opportunities to climb the S-Curve.
I think Marquette ultimately ends up as a 2 seed. I think the losses to Seton Hall and especially Butler at home ended any change of them getting the 1. I am still not sold on Uconn. IMO they are not playing great ball just playing well enough to win. I think at minimum Marquette beats Uconn and home and unlike the blowout @Uconn last year, it will be a last minute type game.
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I wish we could have played "just well enough to win" 7 Q1 games.
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Updating my S-Curve:
10. Dayton
11. Baylor
12. Creighton
13. Alabama
14. Auburn
15. Iowa State
16. BYU
17. Illinois
There's not a lot of separation here though. Very fluid. Things get mucky after that. I'm going to stop there for now and let the weekend games play out.
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This year is college basketball is just weird. Winning on the road has never been an easy task but this year it seems almost impossible if you play on the road against a team with a pulse. Over the last 3 weeks there had to have been at minimum 15 upsets on the road. I don't think anyone is safe come NCAA tournament time.
You eyes are correct - winning on the road has been incredibly hard this year. https://twitter.com/j_sportscast/status/1750783019873599769
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You eyes are correct - winning on the road has been incredibly hard this year. https://twitter.com/j_sportscast/status/1750783019873599769
We get back in the top 10 and we can drop that percentage even more!
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You eyes are correct - winning on the road has been incredibly hard this year. https://twitter.com/j_sportscast/status/1750783019873599769
FIeld of 68 said that top 10 teams are 17-27 on the road vs unranked teams this year
We are 1-3 in those
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apparently I’m ‘lost’ too, at least according to junior boy Newsdreams.
Still lost
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Any relation to NASCAR's Dick Trickle?
Unlikely, sir. They spell and pronounce their names differently.
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I am watching the Wisconsin versus Michigan State game, actually, watching Wisconsin is kind of fun, played really well. Their offense is really quite good.
Just give kudos worth deserved
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I am watching the Wisconsin versus Michigan State game, actually, watching Wisconsin is kind of fun, played really well. Their offense is really quite good.
Just give kudos worth deserved
Wisconsin blows
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I am watching the Wisconsin versus Michigan State game, actually, watching Wisconsin is kind of fun, played really well. Their offense is really quite good.
Just give kudos worth deserved
Yes. But it's worth noting that Wahl and Crowl constantly hook with their left hand. Why it isn't called is a mystery to me. It's clear as Waterford.
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I am watching the Wisconsin versus Michigan State game, actually, watching Wisconsin is kind of fun, played really well. Their offense is really quite good.
Just give kudos worth deserved
Ban dis guy ^^^
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Yes. But it's worth noting that Wahl and Crowl constantly hook with their left hand. Why it isn't called is a mystery to me. It's clear as Waterford.
Michigan State sucks, too. Izzo needs to retire. Joey killed him and his legacy and the program
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Hey, I just give credit for credit is due.
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I am watching the Wisconsin versus Michigan State game, actually, watching Wisconsin is kind of fun, played really well. Their offense is really quite good.
Just give kudos worth deserved
Didn't realize how horrible Hepburn has been this year.
Averaging 7 points and 4 assists on the season.
He's a major transfer candidate with Frietag coming in next year for them.
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We are wisconsins bitches till something changes. It’s frustrating but they are just always good. Not great but just always good ish. What is it 22 of 23 tournaments made. Looks like a casual big 10 champ here. Sucks but oh well:
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Hey, I just give credit for credit is due.
is Mich St. a tournament team?
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is Mich St. a tournament team?
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I am not an expert, but I believe they’re on the bubble, at least
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is Mich St. a tournament team?
I'm sure they'll be. Committee has to get to 8 Big Ten teams somehow.
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Didn't realize how horrible Hepburn has been this year.
Averaging 7 points and 4 assists on the season.
He's a major transfer candidate with Frietag coming in next year for them.
This couldn’t be more false. He stated multiple times how he hated being the one who took all the shots on offensive especially the last second shots with the game on the line. His position now is where he is the most comfortable and that’s running the offense and not shooting.
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We are wisconsins bitches till something changes. It’s frustrating but they are just always good. Not great but just always good ish. What is it 22 of 23 tournaments made. Looks like a casual big 10 champ here. Sucks but oh well:
Why does it suck?
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Why does it suck?
Lol I don’t really care that much about the rivalry or how they do in any season but a lot do so that’s why said. Really don’t care myself
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is Mich St. a tournament team?
They could lose 15 games and still be safely in because “they play a tough schedule.”
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Hey, more often than not lately they beat us.
I give credit when credit is due.
I would put them on the three line right now.
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Hey, more often than not lately they beat us.
I give credit when credit is due.
I would put them on the three line right now.
They suck
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They suck
Actually, I agree that they suck, they also swallow, but they’re a good team
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Storr looks like a first rounder. If he was on MU, nobody would be confident he would be back.
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Storr looks like a first rounder. If he was on MU, nobody would be confident he would be back.
He sucks
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Storr looks like a first rounder. If he was on MU, nobody would be confident he would be back.
Have yet to see him on a single draft board. If he starts popping up on them UW will probably try and open the pocketbook to keep him.
As someone mentioned on here a while back, they don't lose anyone aside from Wahl which might make them better.
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Have yet to see him on a single draft board. If he starts popping up on them UW will probably try and open the pocketbook to keep him.
As someone mentioned on here a while back, they don't lose anyone aside from Wahl which might make them better.
They suck
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Mich St is auditioning for the CBI?
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They suck
Redundancy, is a sign of a mental midget.
Just having a little fun.
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Have yet to see him on a single draft board. If he starts popping up on them UW will probably try and open the pocketbook to keep him.
As someone mentioned on here a while back, they don't lose anyone aside from Wahl which might make them better.
Didn’t you just say Chuckie is a major transfer candidate?
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Didn’t you just say Chuckie is a major transfer candidate?
I did, doesn't mean he's guaranteed to leave.
A candidate means he would be regarded as suitable to fit the transfer bill. His choice. With a nice class incoming and Frietag being as touted as he is that makes him a candidate. They'll be a title contender in all likelihood anyways.
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I did, doesn't mean he's guaranteed to leave.
A candidate means he would be regarded as suitable to fit the transfer bill. His choice. With a nice class incoming and Frietag being as touted as he is that makes him a candidate. They'll be a title contender in all likelihood anyways.
They will be good. They won’t be a real threat to win a national title.
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They will be good. They won’t be a real threat to win a national title.
Maybe, maybe not.
Title contenders don't always contend for a title. I considered Marquette a major Title Contender last year. Just didn't quite work out that way. I consider Marquette a contender yet again. Hopefully this go around is better for us!
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I did, doesn't mean he's guaranteed to leave.
A candidate means he would be regarded as suitable to fit the transfer bill. His choice. With a nice class incoming and Frietag being as touted as he is that makes him a candidate. They'll be a title contender in all likelihood anyways.
Title?!?!? Stop
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Fiserv forum is hosting the 1st and 2nd rounds next year. Have no doubt they will be there playing. Although that did nothing two years ago for them.
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I'd be surprised if they were a true title threat, but either way next year is gonna suck. They'll be really good, and MU will likely struggle a bunch.
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They have as much chance as anybody to win the NCAA. There deep and can score 80 points on any night with not one fastbreak. Storr has the talent to be a first round pick. Next year they will be even more talented.
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They have as much chance as anybody to win the NCAA. There deep and can score 80 points on any night with not one fastbreak. Storr has the talent to be a first round pick. Next year they will be even more talented.
No they won’t
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I'd be surprised if they were a true title threat, but either way next year is gonna suck. They'll be really good, and MU will likely struggle a bunch.
Idk man.
Stevie
Kam
Joplin
Gold
has a lot of potential with or without Kolek. If he stays their offense could be dangerous with Gold at the 5.
I'll just enjoy this year for now. Later is so far away!
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Idk man.
Stevie
Kam
Joplin
Gold
has a lot of potential with or without Kolek. If he stays their offense could be dangerous with Gold at the 5.
I'll just enjoy this year for now. Later is so far away!
Marquette sucks
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Marquette sucks
So do you. The life outta every thread.
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So do you. The life outta every thread.
Rider
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Wisconsin is an experienced system team.
Marquette is an experienced team that improvises a lot
So far this year, Wisconsin system is working better than our improvising.
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Wisconsin is an experienced system team.
Marquette is an experienced team that improvises a lot
So far this year, Wisconsin system is working better than our improvising.
🙄
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Marquette sucks
dung
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dung
Stevie Mitchell
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Wisconsin is an experienced system team.
Marquette is an experienced team that improvises a lot
So far this year, Wisconsin system is working better than our improvising.
We are both right around the 2 line. Marquette is 43-12 since the start of last season. Everything they are doing is working...And they are just off a loss to Penn St..soooooo...
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Marquette will be fine next year. Probably make it out of the first weekend of the dance. Book it.
Scoop ion the other hand will always underperform.
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So do you. The life outta every thread.
Lost
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dung
Stevie!!!!
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Lost
Never seen a single episode.
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Storr looks like a first rounder. If he was on MU, nobody would be confident he would be back.
Eh. He scores, sometimes a lot. He doesnt rebound, doesn't get assists, doesn't shoot well, is a fine defender but not elite. Smells like a great college scorer and very good college player. Doesnt smell like an association member
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Eh. He scores, sometimes a lot. He doesnt rebound, doesn't get assists, doesn't shoot well, is a fine defender but not elite. Smells like a great college scorer and very good college player. Doesnt smell like an association member
Bingo. He's good enough to be an alpha scorer in college but not the NBA. The rest of his skillset doesn't lend itself to being a valuable role player.
Meanwhile, someone like Oso has a chance because he's a great defender and monster finisher in the pick and roll, both as a dunker and with his floater.
Add in solid rebounding, and above average dribbling and passing, and you have the makings of a nice prospect.
Even Kolek has a chance at being a backup NBA PG due to his elite passing, good enough shooting, and underrated defense.
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Eh. He scores, sometimes a lot. He doesnt rebound, doesn't get assists, doesn't shoot well, is a fine defender but not elite. Smells like a great college scorer and very good college player. Doesnt smell like an association member
That's not really what scouts are looking at. Omax didn't really rebound or drop dimes either. What they might see with Storr is potential because of his size and athletic ability. They might see that in the open floor and in transition he can find a different gear.
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Never seen a single episode.
Extremely lost
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is Mich St. a tournament team?
At this point, yes. I don't love their resume and I'm lower on them than most (11-seed in Dayton) but the metrics are great, none of the losses are that bad (even JMU), and the Baylor win is great for a team on the bubble.
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That's not really what scouts are looking at. Omax didn't really rebound or drop dimes either. What they might see with Storr is potential because of his size and athletic ability. They might see that in the open floor and in transition he can find a different gear.
Omax did just about everything better than Storr
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Omax did just about everything better than Storr
O-Max was worlds better as a defender. O-Max made his mark guarding NBA prospects like Keyonte George, Jordan Hawkins, and Colby Jones last year.
Storr is not anywhere close to that level of a defender. If you're not good enough to be a star, the NBA really wants specialists. Storr's not a shooter, not a creator, and not a defender.
O-Max at least had enough defense to get drafted. The Mavs have to hope his offense develops enough to be a rotation piece. That will determine if O-Max sticks in the NBA or ends up playing internationally.
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Don’t think Omax would thrive in one of the better leagues overseas.
The game is a lot different and elite athleticism without a ton of other elite skills doesn’t play as well in Europe.
His passing/dribbling/vision and in game intelligence isn’t elite imo.
The shooting isn’t elite either.
Someone like TyKo would be way better suited for the high end European leagues, which are the next best with regards to income if I’m not mistaken.
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Players already slipping around in Providence.
Get your sh!t together with this court/arena. This is the big leagues. If you’re putting players’ health at risk every time you play a home game you should go to playing games in an empty practice gym.
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Players already slipping around in Providence.
Get your sh!t together with this court/arena. This is the big leagues. If you’re putting players’ health at risk every time you play a home game you should go to playing games in an empty practice gym.
Was going to post the same. What a joke.
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Was going to post the same. What a joke.
Every whistle they have staff running out onto the court to wipe it up. Just insane that they haven’t figured out a solution. This has been going on for years.
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Of course Providence turns on slippery floors for the Cooley return game!
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Of course Providence turns on slippery floors for the Cooley return game!
It was unseasonably warm thur/fri.
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It was unseasonably warm thur/fri.
Which is why they play basketball inside a covered, indoor gym.
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Georgetown- Providence tied at 66 just under 4 left
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Is a Kansas win or loss better for Marquette? Coming down to the wire at Iowa St.
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Is a Kansas win or loss better for Marquette? Coming down to the wire at Iowa St.
Kansas losing is always a good thing.
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Kansas losing is always a good thing.
In a vacuum, yes. But for seeding can we pass them? Will that win continue to be amazing if they lose a few?
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Going to be another day of top 15 teams going down.
7 Kansas lost
11 Oklahoma lost
I can’t see 9 Arizona and 6 Kentucky losing and possibly 12 Duke at home
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Going to be another day of top 15 teams going down.
7 Kansas lost
11 Oklahoma lost
I can’t see 9 Arizona and 6 Kentucky losing and possibly 12 Duke at home
Indiana putting up a fight against Illinois as well
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Second straight loss for The Oklahoma Fighting Mosers should help MUs cause
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Every whistle they have staff running out onto the court to wipe it up. Just insane that they haven’t figured out a solution. This has been going on for years.
Did the referees decide to institute the no traveling rule again?
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Duke bailed out by the refs again what a shocker.
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Boise st home winning streak snapped to Utah st
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Duke bailed out by the refs again what a shocker.
In other breaking news, water is wet. What a joke.
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Duke bailed out by the refs again what a shocker.
And they'll probably move up 5+ spots. What a joke.
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MU should move up at least 5 spots?
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Jerry Palm, not to mention Brew, has MU as a 2 seed. R-E-L-A-X. MU could be anywhere from 7-12. It doesn't matter.
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Baylor lost in 3OT at home to TCU.
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Not as many upsets as I hoped for today. Possibly means UConn or Purdue goes down tomorrow
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My Spidey Sense told me that Richmond would beat Dayton.
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Duke bailed out by the refs again what a shocker.
End of game officiating was questionable, but Duke was also getting plenty of help from Clemson's Ian Shieffelin.
With 2:06 remaining and Clemson holding a 4 point lead, Shieffelin grabbed a defensive rebound. The next 1:51 went like this:
CLEMSON: Shieffelin turnover (2:02)
DUKE: Filipowski missed jumper (1:56)
CLEMSON: Shieffelin turnover (1:37)
DUKE: McCain made layup (1:32, Clemson leads 69-67)
CLEMSON: Shieffelin turnover (1:06)
DUKE: McCain missed 3 (0:53)
CLEMSON: Shieffelin turnover (0:25)
DUKE: Filipowski made layup, fouled by Shieffelin, made free throw (0:15, Duke leads 70-69)
That's 4 consecutive turnovers, punctuated by fouling to create a 3 point play to give up the lead. Some of the turnovers were absolutely mind-numbingly dumb.
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Oklahoma is #11? They lost to the best team they played and their best win is Providence I guess? They just getting benefit of being a big name school with 1 loss? Cause their computer numbers aren’t any good
This aged well. But what’s crazy is how much it shows what a joke polls can be.
Since this post on Jan 6, they were 2-4 with losses to TCU, Texas, KU, and now TT. They obviously will drop like a rock after going 0-2 this week. But the fact that they were still 11 this week after going 2-2 since that post and losing comfortably to the only good teams they played is a joke
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This aged well. But what’s crazy is how much it shows what a joke polls can be.
Since this post on Jan 6, they were 2-4 with losses to TCU, Texas, KU, and now TT. They obviously will drop like a rock after going 0-2 this week. But the fact that they were still 11 this week after going 2-2 since that post and losing comfortably to the only good teams they played is a joke
Imagine buying season tickets and making your annual donation only to see 8 buy games on the schedule. Brutal.
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End of game officiating was questionable, but Duke was also getting plenty of help from Clemson's Ian Shieffelin.
With 2:06 remaining and Clemson holding a 4 point lead, Shieffelin grabbed a defensive rebound. The next 1:51 went like this:
CLEMSON: Shieffelin turnover (2:02)
DUKE: Filipowski missed jumper (1:56)
CLEMSON: Shieffelin turnover (1:37)
DUKE: McCain made layup (1:32, Clemson leads 69-67)
CLEMSON: Shieffelin turnover (1:06)
DUKE: McCain missed 3 (0:53)
CLEMSON: Shieffelin turnover (0:25)
DUKE: Filipowski made layup, fouled by Shieffelin, made free throw (0:15, Duke leads 70-69)
That's 4 consecutive turnovers, punctuated by fouling to create a 3 point play to give up the lead. Some of the turnovers were absolutely mind-numbingly dumb.
This is a great post and it illustrates why most whining about the refs is dopey.
Yes, the foul call that sent Roach to the line at the end was questionable at best and more likely horrible.
But had Shieffelin made even one good play down the stretch - heck, if he had avoided making even one of those bad plays down the stretch - Clemson would not have been in that position in the final seconds.
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My Spidey Sense told me that Richmond would beat Dayton.
The reffing in that game was so different from current Big East games. Holmes for UD saddled with an awful 4th foul with about 14 minutes left, and the whole game had no flow because of constant whistles.
I have enjoyed the flow of Big East games this year, but stunned at the lack of calls with big contact on drives to the hoop. Kolek in particular has been getting hammered all year on drives, but really it has been called that way consistently across the league. Beats the free throw parades of a few years ago, but it does seem fouls on shots should still be called when they occur.
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End of game officiating was questionable, but Duke was also getting plenty of help from Clemson's Ian Shieffelin.
With 2:06 remaining and Clemson holding a 4 point lead, Shieffelin grabbed a defensive rebound. The next 1:51 went like this:
CLEMSON: Shieffelin turnover (2:02)
DUKE: Filipowski missed jumper (1:56)
CLEMSON: Shieffelin turnover (1:37)
DUKE: McCain made layup (1:32, Clemson leads 69-67)
CLEMSON: Shieffelin turnover (1:06)
DUKE: McCain missed 3 (0:53)
CLEMSON: Shieffelin turnover (0:25)
DUKE: Filipowski made layup, fouled by Shieffelin, made free throw (0:15, Duke leads 70-69)
That's 4 consecutive turnovers, punctuated by fouling to create a 3 point play to give up the lead. Some of the turnovers were absolutely mind-numbingly dumb.
Wow, Shieffelin must have had Duke money line.
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Memphis hit the trifecta.
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Forgot about David Jones too!
This was pulled from Twitter
Alexander - 13pts, 8asst
Addae-Wusu - 10pts
Jones - 15pts (5-of-12)
AJ Storr - 15pts (6-of-13)
Pinzon - 5pts (1-of-7)
King - 22pts (8-of-11)
Keita - 2pts
Curbelo - Ineligible
Gardner - DNP (ankle)
Reede - DNP
Stanley - (Tues. 9pm)
Numbers stolen from a St. John's Twitter Fan Account post.
"What have they been up to? 🧐
David Jones: 21.7 PTS (ranked team)
AJ Storr: 15.9 PTS (ranked team)
O’mar Stanley: 13.2 PTS
Posh Alexander: 11.4 PTS
Dylan Addae-Wusu: 8.4 PTS
Kolby King: 13.1 PTS
Rafael Pinzon: 12.3 PTS
Andre Curbelo: 12 PTS
Keep working fellas!"
**Stanely was also a name that Shaka contacted in the portal before he ultimately chose to go to Boise St.***
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Would be nice if Texas could beat Houston tonight. Good for Texas' NET (and theoretically ours by extension), and also would knock Houston down a peg (probably not in ratings, but maybe a little in stature).
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Would be nice if Texas could beat Houston tonight. Good for Texas' NET (and theoretically ours by extension), and also would knock Houston down a peg (probably not in ratings, but maybe a little in stature).
Agreed. About the only game I have any interest in watching tonight.
Some light Monday and Thursday slates the last few weeks.
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Texas looks a lot better tonight than they have at many points throughout the season.
Would be nice for MU if Texas can finish off this game against Houston.
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Texas looks a lot better tonight than they have at many points throughout the season.
Would be nice for MU if Texas can finish off this game against Houston.
Absolutely. I have no idea who the best team is in tbe B12.
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That didn't help.
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Absolutely. I have no idea who the best team is in tbe B12.
And of course talking about it prompted the fastest 9-0 run in the history of basketball 😅😂
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And of course talking about it prompted the fastest 9-0 run in the history of basketball 😅😂
Right! WTF??
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Brutal TO by Hunter there
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No idea why Hunter was put back into the game after cramping.
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Ya. No idea what he was doing. Would've probably had the last shot.
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Ya. No idea what he was doing. Would've probably had the last shot.
He looked lost and like he couldn't go laterally the possession before that.
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Texas got to get a 5th foul on Shead
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Get Hunter off the floor.
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Houston under Sampson always plays D. But Texas is making it easy on them.
Weaver cant dribble. Hunter looks borderline D3 tonight. And they keep having those two handle the ball up top over Abmas. Then they had Disu whose a beast in the paint dribbling on the perimiter throwing fast balls to weaver.
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Texas just out toughed.
Cryer tried to shoot Houston out of the game. But Houston got every rebound off his misses.
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Houston under Sampson always plays D. But Texas is making it easy on them.
Weaver cant dribble. Hunter looks borderline D3 tonight. And they keep having those two handle the ball up top over Abmas. Then they had Disu whose a beast in the paint dribbling on the perimiter throwing fast balls to weaver.
Hunter has been awful the entire game. Bad decision by Perry.
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If I was filling out my bracket today, I'd pick Houston to win it all.
They have guys that can take over, but most importantly...it feels like every single rebound is theirs. They are everywhere on the glass.
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https://twitter.com/andreweatherman/status/1752098095494471966?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
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If I was filling out my bracket today, I'd pick Houston to win it all.
They have guys that can take over, but most importantly...it feels like every single rebound is theirs. They are everywhere on the glass.
Dont get me wrong, they can win it. But usually the issue for them is putting the ball in the basket in March. Eventually catches up to them it seems.
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Dont get me wrong, they can win it. But usually the issue for them is putting the ball in the basket in March. Eventually catches up to them it seems.
Agreed, but it seems like a year where toughness could win. I'm sure I'll change my Champion 10 times before now and March, but there just isn't an overpowering team this year. Maybe their toughness finally pulls through.
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Toughness could win, and Houston is tough, but I'm not overly impressed with their offensive game. I thought, relative to the field, Houston was better last year ... and that didn't work out for them even though they could have had a relatively easy path with all the tourney upsets. We'll see about this time. It still looks WIDE open to me; I see no reason to believe that Marquette (if healthy) doesn't have just about as good a chance.
As a coach whose players often aren't very good at executing things seconds after I draw them up, I was heartened to see Houston's All-America candidate completely ignore the instructions of a Hall of Fame-worthy coach and chuck up an airball at the end of regulation. Man, was Sampson pizzed!
Of course, my kids are middle-schoolers who just forget what they're supposed to do. Jamal Shead is a few years out of middle school, so I'm not sure what his excuse was.
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Tenn lost to South C at home. GA Tech up 1 late vs Carolina.
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G.Tech wins!!!
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UNC goes down to GT.
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UNC goes down to GT.
UNC is NOT a 1seed.
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I am good with Davis at UNC. I think he'll be just good enough not to get fired.
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Was keeping my eye on that unc game (don't like them anyway) but a lot has to happen for 5-6 teams to come back to us. So that GT win is good. But l'm thinking we have to win BE and tourney no more than 1 more loss to get a 1. High 2 ok too.
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TN loses at home to South Carolina as well.
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Pretty good game on CBSSN. Although it's with Gillen. CSU/SDSU.
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I know it's early but I think two #1 seeds are wide open. I would be surprised if UCONN and Purdue fall off that line.
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Pretty good game on CBSSN. Although it's with Gillen. CSU/SDSU.
Gillen + MWC basketball = Hard Pass.
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Hopefully there's some love for MU hoops on Inside College Basketball coming up on CBSSN.
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UNC is NOT a 1seed.
They probably still are. Even with the loss, Tennessee also lost and there's a gap between UNC and Arizona/Wisconsin/Marquette right now.
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They probably still are. Even with the loss, Tennessee also lost and there's a gap between UNC and Arizona/Wisconsin/Marquette right now.
Tennessee lost to a much better team even though it was on their home floor.
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Izzo wins 700th of his career versus The Wolverines
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2024/01/30/michigan-state-basketball-tom-izzo-700th-career-win-birthday-michigan-game-recap-rivalry/72417495007/
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I know it's early but I think two #1 seeds are wide open. I would be surprised if UCONN and Purdue fall off that line.
It would also take a lot for Houston to fall off the 1 line. The top 3 teams have separated from the field.
The 2nd tier is from 4-9. UNC, Arizona, Tennessee, Wisconsin, Marquette, and Kansas.
That's the group competing for the last 1 seed, all of the 2 seeds, and the top 3 seed.
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Northwestern up 1 with 5:28 to go at Purdue.
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Purdue with 28 free throw attempts
Northwestern has 2
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But Purdue keeps missing free throws. Empty possessions.
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But Purdue keeps missing free throws. Empty possessions.
Edey putting some massive arc on his and they struggled to even make it to the rim
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Purdue with 28 free throw attempts
Northwestern has 2
30 to 2?????? That's freaking insane.
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It is, but since I put this on, Northwestern has done just about nothing but launch 3s.
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It is, but since I put this on, Northwestern has done just about nothing but launch 3s.
I just got home abd turned it on but I've never heard a stat like that.
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Providence, MU, last year.
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Obviously Edey is run away player of the year.
But mean mugging a guy a foot shorter than him because he dunked over his back doesnt deserve the praise he thinks he does.
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SJU - Xavier game tied with little time left. Wow
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NW fouled on a 3. LOL.
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This march is Edeys superbowl
Wilting at the line.
7'4 and still in college for a reason. Probably should learn how to shoot the ball.
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Damn Buie rushed that
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Damn Buie rushed that
Gonna be tough for NW to win in ot.
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How is NW not ranked? They are a ncaa tournament team imo
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Since halftime, Purdue has missed more FTs than it had made.
Luckily for NW, they’re only playing Purdue on the road and not Chicago State at home!
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Xavier beats SJU wow
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I won't miss Edey being gone from college hoops.
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I appreciate greatness. Subpar and accidentally gets 30 plus.
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Edey setting that screen.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b151ab51965979338792f0af5dcf8ddb/tenor.gif?itemid=10746151)
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Edey setting that screen.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b151ab51965979338792f0af5dcf8ddb/tenor.gif?itemid=10746151)
LOL!
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If Purdue can win in Madison this weekend…and we take care of biz in DC, should be back to top 5 for us come Monday
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Chris Collins gets ejected as the game ends. Glorious.
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Chris Collins…my man!!
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Always James Breeding. Always.
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Chris Collins gets ejected as the game ends. Glorious.
NW got screwed on the previous play. Was offensive foul on Purdue.
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Purdue outshot Northwestern 42-8 on freethrows. That is criminally bad. Purdue is not winning in Madison this weekend.
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Agreed. I understand the T.
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If Purdue can win in Madison this weekend…and we take care of biz in DC, should be back to top 5 for us come Monday
It's very important for Nebraska and Purdue to beat Wisky.
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Purdue outshot Northwestern 42-8. That is criminally bad. Purdue is not winning in Madison this weekend.
I think you are right (winning in Mad), unfortunately
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Purdue outshot Northwestern 42-8 on freethrows. That is criminally bad. Purdue is not winning in Madison this weekend.
it's concerning but they definitely can win there.
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Always James Breeding. Always.
What a coincidence
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it's concerning but they definitely can win there.
Northwestern was absolutely screwed tonight. There's no good explanation for that free throw disparity, and Collins was right to be livid at the refs.
It will be interesting to see how the next game is called. Wisconsin always gets crazy home cooking. Edey gets the reverse Theo John treatment: he is usually allowed to throw opponents around with impunity, but breathing on him sends him to the line. Which side will the refs choose in Madison?
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Northwestern was absolutely screwed tonight. There's no good explanation for that free throw disparity, and Collins was right to be livid at the refs.
It will be interesting to see how the next game is called. Wisconsin always gets crazy home cooking. Edey gets the reverse Theo John treatment: he is usually allowed to throw opponents around with impunity, but breathing on him sends him to the line. Which side will the refs choose in Madison?
I didn't see most of the game but I have to agree about that FT disparity. If Wisky gets crazy home cooking Purdue will have some probs for sure. That team doesn't have much depth.
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I didn't see most of the game but I have to agree about that FT disparity. If Wisky gets crazy home cooking Purdue will have some probs for sure. That team doesn't have much depth.
Hate to say it, but if Providence somehow pulls off the upset and Badgers win Sunday they would have my vote for #1.
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Hate to say it, but if Providence somehow pulls off the upset and Badgers win Sunday they would have my vote for #1.
They're unfortunately good. I think there are 7 teams that can win it, including Marquette and Wisconsin. If Houston beats Kansas they'll be #1.
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Beat Georgetown and Kentucky will not be ahead of us in either poll
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Is there any ranking higher than #1. If so, I'm so concerned that Madison will get it! It's so worrisome! All I can think about, day and night, is what Madison is ranked!
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Is there any ranking higher than #1. If so, I'm so concerned that Madison will get it! It's so worrisome! All I can think about, day and night, is what Madison is ranked!
They'll lose to Nebraska.
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They'll lose to Nebraska.
I would say there’s a greater chance they lose tomorrow than Sunday. For some reason Nebraska shoots almost 50% from 3 at home. Would not be shocked if they won tomorrow. According to the spread the line is actually a pick ‘em
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UCONN is completely out of sorts.
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UCONN is completely out of sorts.
they will win
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46 fouls. Jeesh.
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46 fouls. Jeesh.
I believe 48 by the end.
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Chris Collins…my man!!
loved the guy as a player! hope we don't somehow run into them in the dance.
his exit spoke volumes! 46-8 free throw gap?? largest in big ten over the past 25 years?? ya mean that was beat this year nonetheless? yup NE 51-9 over old dominion last december. was that breeder guy there too? buie never got to line??
hope those refs ain't in the tourney any where
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I would say there’s a greater chance they lose tomorrow than Sunday. For some reason Nebraska shoots almost 50% from 3 at home. Would not be shocked if they won tomorrow. According to the spread the line is actually a pick ‘em
I want UW to be good - very good - but I just want us to beat them always and everywhere.
No badger tears would be sweeter than those rolling down the eyes that watch us cut down the nets in front of them. True disappointment can only stem from true hope. You'll never see a DePaul fan cry.
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I want UW to be good - very good - but I just want us to beat them always and everywhere.
No badger tears would be sweeter than those rolling down the eyes that watch us cut down the nets in front of them. True disappointment can only stem from true hope. You'll never see a the DePaul fan cry.
FIFY
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Beat Georgetown and Kentucky will not be ahead of us in either poll
In the ranking that really matters (the NCAA seed list) Marquette is already ahead of Kentucky in the opinions of the bracketologists that I follow and trust, such as brewcity and Bracketville Dave.
If MU can win the 7 remaining games in which they should be favored they will be in great position for a solid NCAA seed.
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From Yahoo Sports, a pretty incredible story about a guy coaching both the men's team and the women's team at his NAIA school:
Only a few months ago, LSU Shreveport athletic director Lucas Morgan approached his men's basketball coach with an audacious plea. Morgan asked Kyle Blankenship if he'd be willing to take on the challenge of also coaching the school's women's basketball team this season.
That wasn't a request Morgan ever expected to make, but these were desperate circumstances. LSU Shreveport's previous women's basketball coach had just abruptly resigned a little over two weeks before the team's Oct. 27 season opener to tend to a family situation.
Morgan didn't think he had time to conduct an external search for a replacement, nor did he feel the team's 27-year-old assistant coach was ready to take over. As a result, he turned to Blankenship, the trusted men's coach who had guided LSU Shreveport to the NAIA national tournament in each of his first 11 seasons.
At first, Blankenship was hesitant. He wanted to help the women's players whose coach had just abandoned them, but he worried that he'd miss too many practices and games as a result of scheduling conflicts. He didn't see how he could coach two teams at the same time without leaving at least one feeling shortchanged.
Blankenship began to reconsider after Morgan returned with printouts of both teams' 2023-24 schedules. Morgan showed him there was only one day when the men's and women's teams played simultaneously in different states and an assistant would have to coach the women in Blankenship's absence.
Blankenship, 40, called his wife Alexis to get her opinion. "Let's do it," she told him. "I trust you, and I know you're capable."
The three-and-a-half months since Blankenship took on double duty have been some of the most taxing yet rewarding of his coaching career. Fueled by a mix of stubborn determination, encouragement from loved ones and excessive caffeine, Blankenship is thriving in a dual role few other college coaches have ever attempted.
The results so far: The women's team is 17-2 and sits atop the Red River Athletic Conference. The men's team is 15-4 and one of four teams still in striking distance of an RRAC title.
What he's saying: "I had a lot of people tell me I was crazy when I did this, and I would say they're probably right," Blankenship told Yahoo Sports. "But any challenge that is put in front of me, I want to always try to do my best, have fun while I'm doing it and never quit. That's the mindset I've tried to take."
I love the first part of that quote. All in all, an awesome accomplishment by this coach.
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I did a minor league version of that when my daughter was in 8th grade. My friend and I co-coached the boys and girls teams. Held practices back to back. During games, I was the boss for the girls games, he ran the boys games. Fun year.
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I don't know what it is but I am not sold on Purdue. I still think they are a sweet 16 team at best. If the refs actually call a fair game they can be beaten by a lot of teams. Just going based on ESPN Bracketology I would pick #4 Auburn to beat them in the sweet 16.
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I don't know what it is but I am not sold on Purdue. I still think they are a sweet 16 team at best. If the refs actually call a fair game they can be beaten by a lot of teams. Just going based on ESPN Bracketology I would pick #4 Auburn to beat them in the sweet 16.
It truly does come down to how the game is called. If Purdue gets the free throw disparity we saw last nite, they’ll always be in their games. Conversely, if Edey gets called for his constant elbows, they’re in trouble.
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Kentucky laid an egg last night. The "great" Ivisic with 1 point in 6 minutes. :o
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11 straight (NAIA) tourneys and he's still at the same school? That's impressive / interesting / unusual...
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Tennessee lost to a much better team even though it was on their home floor.
Ehh, one night sample size. Did Marquette lose to a much better team when Butler got us on our home floor? Tennessee has a much better resume than South Carolina, regardless of the events of a single game in a 30-34 game pre-NCAA season.
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Ehh, one night sample size. Did Marquette lose to a much better team when Butler got us on our home floor? Tennessee has a much better resume than South Carolina, regardless of the events of a single game in a 30-34 game pre-NCAA season.
I think they were saying that Tennessee lost to a better team (South Carolina) than UNC did (Georgia Tech). Having not seen either before last night, I don't really have an opinion.
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I think they were saying that Tennessee lost to a better team (South Carolina) than UNC did (Georgia Tech). Having not seen either before last night, I don't really have an opinion.
USC is clearly a better team, but their record is inflated cause they played a really weak non con. Until the last week beating UK and UT (which is incredibly impressive don’t get me wrong) they hadn’t had single notable win and lost by 25+ to Bama 2 weeks ago. There was a reason they weren’t ranked this week before the UT game despite being 17-3 and just beating #6 UK.
That being said, record aside, pretty impressive what Damon Stoudamire has done so far at GT. Pastner left a middling mess that hadn’t won more than 6 ACC games in a few years. Stoudamire only returned 1 of the top 5 min getters from last year. The other 3 main contributors are a transfer who couldn’t get min for an NIT Florida team and 2 freshman, one who was barely top 200 and the other whose other offer was from Sam Houston State.
And still they’ve already beaten Duke and UNC and have a road win at Clemson.
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Is there any ranking higher than #1. If so, I'm so concerned that Madison will get it! It's so worrisome! All I can think about, day and night, is what Madison is ranked!
if you lived in WI, you’d feel differently. UW is gum on the sole of your new shoes.
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if you lived in WI, you’d feel differently. UW is gum on the sole of your new shoes.
I get that Viper. Friends, family, coworkers, neighbors who are UW alum or just UW fans who act as if it was a pro team love to remind you that their team beat Marquette. There's not much you can do to fight back unless, like last year, UW goes to the NIT. Even then, it's not the same as being able to remind them "we won!" because we didn't.
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Bucky is laughing in Nebraskas faces
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I wonder if Badger fans will storm the court when they beat Purdue.
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AJ Storr has been single handedly winning games on the offensive end lately for UW. They are solid defensively but he has really taken over for them on the offensive end.
15 of their 31 so far in the 1st half.
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AJ Storr has been single handedly winning games on the offensive end lately for UW. They are solid defensively but he has really taken over for them on the offensive end.
15 of their 31 so far in the 1st half.
Hes good
But hed also be in foul trouble if the refs called his blatant push offs on offense that magically get called on the D every time.
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Storr is a beast and probably the number 1 transfer from last years transfer portal. No idea what St. John’s was thinking letting him go.
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Sweet Jesus. WTH were the Nebraska players doing all day to prepare for this game? Very disappointing.
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Sweet Jesus. WTH were the Nebraska players doing all day to prepare for this game? Very disappointing.
My sources told me pregame acid
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Storr is a beast and probably the number 1 transfer from last years transfer portal. No idea what St. John’s was thinking letting him go.
HA. No.
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My sources told me pregame acid
Storr will be a 1st round pick. I said this a few weeks ago.
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I despise it …. To my core …
But, UW is really damn good. I think they will beat Purdue this week end … and it may not even be that close
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Lookin like a replay of the Nova game
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So, wait. A ranked team has a big lead on the road and the home team makes a huge run. What is this devilry?
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The Huskers charge
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And Badgers swinging right back
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We should start a thread on how Wisconsin became so good so fast after missing the dance…
It’ll be a good one
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I despise it …. To my core …
But, UW is really damn good. I think they will beat Purdue this week end … and it may not even be that close
Of course they are...but also very beatable.
They key is to not let them jump out to a significant lead early because even when you make a run they are typically better than any team around at winning close games. Easier said than done because they know how to play their style and win but the opponent will always have comparable or better talent.
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Let's go Huskers!
What a shot.
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I give Nebraska huge props for the comeback, but Wiscy almost always wins these close ones. Similar to RED at Minnesota last week.
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Bucky is laughing in Nebraskas faces
Bucky isn’t laughing now. You don’t just walk into Pinnacle Bank…
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Let's go Huskers!
What a shot.
bring it home, cornmen, bring it home!!!
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Get a stop now!!
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I despise it …. To my core …
But, UW is really damn good. I think they will beat Purdue this week end … and it may not even be that close
I don’t think Purdue will get the 40 free throw advantage they needed to squeak by mighty Northwestern at home.
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Brutal final shot
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2nd time tonight Nebraska has been called for a foul on all ball blocks.
Just inexcusable officiating.
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Is Chucky from Mars or Pluto?
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How was that not Husker ball on that miss before Storr's 3?
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Storr is good but boy is it easy to get him into chuck mode.
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Whoa, just turned on the Nebraska game, what a come back.
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This is kind of fun isn’t it?
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Thank you Nebraska.
Sincerely,
Everyone.
:)
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Made my night to have UW lose …
I thought it was over at half time
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I give Nebraska huge props for the comeback, but Wiscy almost always wins these close ones. Similar to RED at Minnesota last week.
Almost always. ;D
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Nice loss.
Would be good to jump those guys on the S Curve
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Thank you Nebraska.
Sincerely,
Everyone.
:)
#3, #5 and #6 all have taken mid week losses. Would be real nice to get a win Saturday.
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I think we should find out what type of blackmail Carter Gilmore has on Greg Gard that allows him to still play
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I think we should find out what type of blackmail Carter Gilmore has on Greg Gard that allows him to still play
They already announced both him and Crowl as Grad returnees for next season too.
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Court storming. ::)
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…you’ve said it all…
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I think we should find out what type of blackmail Carter Gilmore has on Greg Gard that allows him to still play
Walk-on caliber talent. Complete stiff.
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Bucky gets corn…..
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Wait what? I read Scoop and didn’t bother turning it on. I thought the game was over by 7:40 PM central time.
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Almost always. ;D
why am I so happy?😁
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Unbelievable. Exact same thing happened last year at Nebraska, with Bucky blowing a big lead and losing in OT.
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We play Wisconsin next December. Hopefully Shaka was scouting tonight’s game. Haha
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I hope Shaka is concerned with the full season and not a single game.
I used to obsess over Wisconsin. The game means very little though. We aren’t often losing recruits to UW, and they aren’t often losing them to us. I can’t think of a case where Wisconsin caused Marquette to miss the Tourney, or even cost MU a seed line.
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Back into the Top 5 by Monday with a win on Saturday?
#3 UNC lost
#5 Tennessee lost
#6 UW lost
**#10 Kentucky lost too for good measure
This weekend
#3 UNC plays #7 Duke
#4 Houston plays #8 Kansas
#2 Purdue plays #6 UW
#5 Tennessee plays #10 Kentucky
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Nice loss.
Would be good to jump those guys on the S Curve
#takebackindy
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Nice loss.
Would be good to jump those guys on the S Curve
They have to play Edey on Sunday too. We should be on the 2 line come next week.
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I think UW was 150 or 200 and 0 in games where they led by 15+ at the half.
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Was Wisky up like 20 in the 1H?
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I hope we avoid Nebraska in the brackets for no other reason than the fact that they have never won an NCAA Tournament game. The basketball World will be rooting for them.
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Wait what? I read Scoop and didn’t bother turning it on. I thought the game was over by 7:40 PM central time.
BADgers were 120-0 since2002 when leading by 15+ at halftime. They led by 16. I can't recall the Nebraska stat but they were 0-60 or something like that when down by 15 at half.
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BADgers were 120-0 since2002 when leading by 15+ at halftime. They led by 16. I can't recall the Nebraska stat but they were 0-60 or something like that when down by 15 at half.
No one beats Nebraska 61 times in a row when they're down 15 at the half.
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I hope we avoid Nebraska in the brackets for no other reason than the fact that they have never won an NCAA Tournament game. The basketball World will be rooting for them.
What some dude wants to happen from his couch in El Paso will have zero bearing on us vs Nebraska.
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What some dude wants to happen from his couch in El Paso will have zero bearing on us vs Nebraska.
The vibes in the arena will be heavy for Nebraska wherever they play. We wouldn't matchup with them until Rd. 2 anyways so they'd have that 1st win out of the way already, but even still...
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The vibes in the arena will be heavy for Nebraska wherever they play. We wouldn't matchup with them until Rd. 2 anyways so they'd have that 1st win out of the way already, but even still...
If MU gets a top 2 seed, their second round game is guaranteed to be against a high quality opponent anyway.
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If MU gets a top 2 seed, their second round game is guaranteed to be against a high quality opponent anyway.
For sure, but like always, there will be preferences.
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The vibes in the arena will be heavy for Nebraska wherever they play. We wouldn't matchup with them until Rd. 2 anyways so they'd have that 1st win out of the way already, but even still...
If you are afraid of Nebraska in round 2 of the tourney.
We might as well not even accept the bid.
Anything is possible, but good lord thats about as good as you can get.
A non top 32 team in the final 32. A team that to date has 1 road win vs Kstate. And a neutral court win against freaking Oregon State. Thats it away from home.
And as good as they have been at home, they still lost by about a million to Creighton there as well.
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No one beats Nebraska 61 times in a row when they're down 15 at the half.
Nice!
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Marquette is squarely in play for that Final 1 seed.
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I’m pretty certain I’d really like to see Wisconsin on the 3 line if Marquette gets a 2, or on the 2 line if Marquette gets a 3.
Would be a really cool game if both teams got there.
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Marquette is squarely in play for that Final 1 seed.
9-1 or better should do it.
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If MU gets a top 2 seed, their second round game is guaranteed to be against a high quality opponent anyway.
If MU gets a 2 seed, their second round game is guaranteed to be against the 7/10 winner.
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If you are afraid of Nebraska in round 2 of the tourney.
We might as well not even accept the bid.
Anything is possible, but good lord thats about as good as you can get.
A non top 32 team in the final 32. A team that to date has 1 road win vs Kstate. And a neutral court win against freaking Oregon State. Thats it away from home.
And as good as they have been at home, they still lost by about a million to Creighton there as well.
Come on, we all know MU can’t beat Big 10 teams!
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I’m pretty certain I’d really like to see Wisconsin on the 3 line if Marquette gets a 2, or on the 2 line if Marquette gets a 3.
Would be a really cool game if both teams got there.
I will be cheering for UW to lose in the first round no matter where they are in the bracket.
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Oh, No! How will this affect Marquette's NET and other computer rankings?!
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What is this bullchit with punching an opposing player on the court...and then getting high fived by your coach and teammates as you head to the locker room after ejection, hey?
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Flagrant 2, ejected, likely suspended. I can picture a misdemeanor assault charge thrown in. Wait and see how it plays out.
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That program has been problematic for the last couple of years.
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That program has been problematic for the last couple of years.
Understatement of the year.
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I hope Shaka is concerned with the full season and not a single game.
I used to obsess over Wisconsin. The game means very little though. We aren’t often losing recruits to UW, and they aren’t often losing them to us. I can’t think of a case where Wisconsin caused Marquette to miss the Tourney, or even cost MU a seed line.
…however, I think you’ll agree, gotta beat your rivals. ND, UW, whoever. Gotta beat your rivals.
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…however, I think you’ll agree, gotta beat your rivals. ND, UW, whoever. Gotta beat your rivals.
Well no. If by "gotta" you mean its the end of your season otherwise, you don't. That's wade's point.
If you mean its fun to have bragging rights, then sure.
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I hope we avoid Nebraska in the brackets for no other reason than the fact that they have never won an NCAA Tournament game. The basketball World will be rooting for them.
I would love to see MU play Nebraska in the second round.
For starters that would mean MU won its first round game, which is never a given. Then they would be playing a middling team from a major conference (which describes most of the teams in the 6-11 seed range) that hasn’t yet won a conference road game.
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Well no. If by "gotta" you mean its the end of your season otherwise, you don't. That's wade's point.
If you mean its fun to have bragging rights, then sure.
took your contrarian pill again today.
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took your contrarian pill again today.
It's not really contrarian. You obsess about Wisconsin more than anyone here. It seems like most view it as a game you want to win, but there are plenty of ways to have a successful season if you don't.
Last year was great even though we lost to them.
The one year with Henry was largely a disappointment even though we beat them.
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Justin Lewis beat them and the coach got fired. It matters more if you are surrounded by badger fans. If you don't care about them, it is just another data point, another step on the journey.
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took your contrarian pill again today.
It wasn't contrarian at all.
The only game we "gotta" win is our first-round NCAAT game. And then our second-round game. And then our third. Etc. Not sure how that's contrarian.
I strongly dislike Madison, and I really want Marquette to beat them, but I'd rank its importance well behind games against UConn, Creighton and other conference rivals. Not sure how that's contrarian, either.
But we know ... your BIL bags on you if Madison beats MU, so it's the game you circle on your calendar. Well, you earned bragging rights 4 times while Wojo was here ... how did that work out for Marquette's big picture in any of those years?
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Justin Lewis beat them and the coach got fired. It matters more if you are surrounded by badger fans. If you don't care about them, it is just another data point, another step on the journey.
I strongly dislike the Badgers. That game happened a month ago. Marquette plays in the Big East. The Badgers don’t.
If the Badgers games are still as important to you than the Marquette games, you really need to get high
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Hook viper up.
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Hook viper up.
Imagine what Marquette fans would say about Badger fans if they dedicated 3 pages talking about a random February Marquette game against someone like Nebraska on their message boards. The Wisconsin game thread inside this topic was a solid 4🫏 out of 5
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To be fair, if MU was in bubble watch mode it would matter more.
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Imagine what Marquette fans would say about Badger fans if they dedicated 3 pages talking about a random February Marquette game against someone like Nebraska on their message boards. The Wisconsin game thread inside this topic was a solid 4🫏 out of 5
Exactly. We truly are little brother, unfortunately.
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We're not the ones who rushed the court...
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I strongly dislike the Badgers. That game happened a month ago. Marquette plays in the Big East. The Badgers don’t.
If the Badgers games are still as important to you than the Marquette games, you really need to get high
1) they are our # 1 rival. Obsessed to beat them, yes. I know a lot of/married in to a lot of Walmart Badgers that talk more ridiculous shiit than Sultan & 82 combined. BE? I suppose you’ll tell me the Butler matchups get you stoked. 2) high? Hmm. drug free, brah. My body is a temple. Say your prayers. Take your vitamins. Never go light on leg day. With me, brah?
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We're not the ones who rushed the court...
100%. Weak sauce on them.
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1) they are our # 1 rival. Obsessed to beat them, yes. I know a lot of/married in to a lot of Walmart Badgers that talk more ridiculous shiit than Sultan & 82 combined. BE? I suppose you’ll tell me the Butler matchups get you stoked. 2) high? Hmm. drug free, brah. My body is a temple. Say your prayers. Take your vitamins. Never go light on leg day. With me, brah?
It's "ridiculous shiit" to say I'd rather beat UConn and Creighton - the teams that stand between us and a Big East title - than a non-conference opponent that affects only bragging rights? OK then.
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Exactly. We truly are little brother, unfortunately.
Big brother, little brother - as long as we’re brothers….
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1) they are our # 1 rival. Obsessed to beat them, yes. I know a lot of/married in to a lot of Walmart Badgers that talk more ridiculous shiit than Sultan & 82 combined. BE? I suppose you’ll tell me the Butler matchups get you stoked. 2) high? Hmm. drug free, brah. My body is a temple. Say your prayers. Take your vitamins. Never go light on leg day. With me, brah?
A lot of people consider Notre Dame a bigger rival. A lot of people would have said that about DePaul at one time, too.
And yeah, the Big East games me more to me. Beating Creighton last year was lots of fun. League will always be bigger than a non-con game
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Right now none of this should be on our minds whatsoever. All we should be thinking about is getting healthy, attacking Gtown tomorrow, and peaking at the right time.
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Exactly. We truly are little brother, unfortunately.
I'll take being the younger, better looking and more successful brother.
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Right now none of this should be on our minds whatsoever. All we should be thinking about is getting healthy, attacking Gtown tomorrow, and peaking at the right time.
True. If fans don't think those exact thoughts, Marquette players won't get healthy, the team won't attack Georgetown, and there's not a chance in hell of MU peaking at the right time.
WE are the ones in control!
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Right now none of this should be on our minds whatsoever. All we should be thinking about is getting healthy, attacking Gtown tomorrow, and peaking at the right time.
This is great stuff!
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True. If fans don't think those exact thoughts, Marquette players won't get healthy, the team won't attack Georgetown, and there's not a chance in hell of MU peaking at the right time.
WE are the ones in control!
Exactly!
turns on Brain Games season 4, episode 6 "Superstitions"
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Right now none of this should be on our minds whatsoever. All we should be thinking about is getting healthy, attacking Gtown tomorrow, and peaking at the right time.
So why in hell are you on Scoop and not in the gym?
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Take your vitamins. Never go light on leg day. With me, brah?
I went big on leg day 2 days ago.
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Right now none of this should be on our minds whatsoever. All we should be thinking about is getting healthy, attacking Gtown tomorrow, and peaking at the right time.
I'm drunk, will have a hangover and will not be able to play tomorrow.
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I'm drunk, will have a hangover and will not be able to play tomorrow.
Keep drinking. Avoid the hangover. Then you can play.
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Exactly. We truly are little brother, unfortunately.
Michael Jordan is/was a little brother.
Dwyane Wade is/was a little brother.
The little brother is often better!
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I'm drunk, will have a hangover and will not be able to play tomorrow.
Dungover
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Legal trouble for Boots at A&M, Buzzer mention
https://247sports.com/college/texas-am/article/texas-a-m-aggies-mens-basketball-coach-buzz-williams-addresses-news-of-tyrece-radford-friday-arrest-226555252/amp/
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Keep drinking. Avoid the hangover. Then you can play.
This was our motto when playing intramural indoor soccer on Sunday mornings at MU.
We didn’t win many games.
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It's "ridiculous shiit" to say I'd rather beat UConn and Creighton - the teams that stand between us and a Big East title - than a non-conference opponent that affects only bragging rights? OK then.
Army Navy . I should add, I never cared about a conference. I loved it when we were a bad ass independent. Great days gone by. I care about beating two schools…Notre Dame and Wisconsin, and at one time a long time ago, DePaul. Finish 2-28 but beat ND and RED. I can live with that. Yeah, I know…i’m lost. But, it’s how I roll. Beat ND and RED.
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What is this bullchit with punching an opposing player on the court...and then getting high fived by your coach and teammates as you head to the locker room after ejection, hey?
A little Kermit Washington-esque eyna? Remember that one on Rudy (on a train to no-where) tomjonovich
That was the brutal - Washington was fined $10k and suspended 60 days/26 games
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This was our motto when playing intramural indoor soccer on Sunday mornings at MU.
We didn’t win many games.
What year? The fancy footjobs probably beat you.
Unless you were on the fancy footjobs?
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What year? The fancy footjobs probably beat you.
Unless you were on the fancy footjobs?
1986-87…or 87-88. Maybe both?
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Robert Parrish on Laimbeer is a closer comp.
Carpenter suspended indefinitely, as he should be.
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Robert Parrish on Laimbeer is a closer comp.
Carpenter suspended indefinitely, as he should be.
Soft
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IU has fired Mike Woodson.
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IU has fired Mike Woodson.
Did they? I'm not seeing it anywhere.0
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Source?
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Source?
Maybe he meant that’s the kind of loss that will get him fired?
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Texas on the verge of a win at TCU.
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Really nice road win for Texas at TCU.
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Kansas as a home dog is something.
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That Texas win is looking better by the day.
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That Texas win is looking better by the day.
They would have been top 20 again if they didn’t choke Monday vs Houston
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They would have been top 20 again if they didn’t choke Monday vs Houston
Three home losses including that one was bad.
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Kansas letting everyone know they still own the big 12
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Speaking of the B12, after inexplicably failing upwards to just outside the Top 10, OU about to lose their 3rd in 4 games, including 2 at home. Won’t be in the top 25 come Monday
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Speaking of the B12, after inexplicably failing upwards to just outside the Top 10, OU about to lose their 3rd in 4 games, including 2 at home. Won’t be in the top 25 come Monday
Tough break for the Mosers
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Kansas letting everyone know they still own the big 12
A lot of games left.
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Kansas missed 14 shots all game
Turned it over 18 times to Houston’s 3 to keep it remotely interesting
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Trimble of UNC. Sweet spin move early vs Duke. Yet another outstanding Milwaukee area product. (Menomonee Falls)
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Kansas letting everyone know they still own the big 12
The only thing Kansas has shown is that they are tough to beat at home.
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Duke not competitive with UNC.
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Cincy won at TTU.
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Legal trouble for Boots at A&M, Buzzer mention
https://247sports.com/college/texas-am/article/texas-a-m-aggies-mens-basketball-coach-buzz-williams-addresses-news-of-tyrece-radford-friday-arrest-226555252/amp/
Buzz: “I’m not supposed to talk about anything legal but he’s innocent, eff the law”
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Duke not competitive with UNC.
That is helpful to MU’s Cause
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Scheyer has shown he can recruit off the Duke mystic, but I’m still not convinced he’s a good coach.
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Buzz: “I’m not supposed to talk about anything legal but he’s innocent, eff the law”
Nothing a “life lesson” won’t fix.
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Nothing a “life lesson” won’t fix.
"I have learned a lot from it.”
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Nothing a “life lesson” won’t fix.
Time for another Jeff Goodman article. 👀
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The rankings will be interesting on Mon
3,4,5,6,7,10,13 and 15 all lost. And 12 is down double digits early.
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The rankings will be interesting on Mon
3,4,5,6,7,10,13 and 15 all lost. And 12 is down double digits early.
It was a great week to get 2 wins.
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This could get really ugly in Waco if Iowa St. wins this game. Drew ejected, then a bench tech, and the crowd is in full meltdown mode.
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This could get really ugly in Waco if Iowa St. wins this game. Drew ejected, then a bench tech, and the crowd is in full meltdown mode.
Insane ending.
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Insane ending.
Absolutely nuts.
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Where will MU land in the t-25?
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Where will MU land in the t-25?
My guess is 7. Pass Wisconsin and Duke.
Tennessee and UNC had 1-1 weeks but also had good wins. Houston likely doesn’t get penalized for losing to KU on the road. But we should get closer to Houston, Tennessee and UNC from in points.
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I’ve lost count of how many games the officials have lost control of today. Gonzaga/St Mary’s is the cherry on top.
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I’ve lost count of how many games the officials have lost control of today. Gonzaga/St Mary’s is the cherry on top.
I would say they lost control in the Gonzaga game. Just idiot fans throwing things onto the court.
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I have to laugh at this take. Duke is absolute trash. The ACC might be the worst of the power 5 conferences and to solidify the 4th one seed with a home win over Duke after losing to 10-11 Tech is laughable.
Joe Lunardi's bracket impact: North Carolina strongly affirmed its No. 1 seed status. The Tar Heels remain fourth among those on the top line of the projected bracket, but took a big step toward collecting what would be the ACC's first 1-seed in five years. Perhaps more importantly, it's now quite likely Carolina will open its NCAA tournament run-regardless of seed-in nearby Charlotte. This huge in-state advantage has been enjoyed frequently by ACC teams over the years. Duke, on the other hand, continues to live in the 3/4 seed range, but could obviously improve on that with a victory in the teams' rematch next month.
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I have to laugh at this take. Duke is absolute trash. The ACC might be the worst of the power 5 conferences and to solidify the 4th one seed with a home win over Duke after losing to 10-11 Tech is laughable.
Joe Lunardi's bracket impact: North Carolina strongly affirmed its No. 1 seed status. The Tar Heels remain fourth among those on the top line of the projected bracket, but took a big step toward collecting what would be the ACC's first 1-seed in five years. Perhaps more importantly, it's now quite likely Carolina will open its NCAA tournament run-regardless of seed-in nearby Charlotte. This huge in-state advantage has been enjoyed frequently by ACC teams over the years. Duke, on the other hand, continues to live in the 3/4 seed range, but could obviously improve on that with a victory in the teams' rematch next month.
Exactly Howard. This is a ridiculous take. The ACC may not be as good as the Mountain West.
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Maybe he meant that’s the kind of loss that will get him fired?
Indeed, you got what I was getting at.
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I have to compare closer, but I think Kansas might've skipped ahead of UNC yesterday. Only team with two wins over clear 1-seeds.
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I have to laugh at this take. Duke is absolute trash. The ACC might be the worst of the power 5 conferences and to solidify the 4th one seed with a home win over Duke after losing to 10-11 Tech is laughable.
Joe Lunardi's bracket impact: North Carolina strongly affirmed its No. 1 seed status. The Tar Heels remain fourth among those on the top line of the projected bracket, but took a big step toward collecting what would be the ACC's first 1-seed in five years. Perhaps more importantly, it's now quite likely Carolina will open its NCAA tournament run-regardless of seed-in nearby Charlotte. This huge in-state advantage has been enjoyed frequently by ACC teams over the years. Duke, on the other hand, continues to live in the 3/4 seed range, but could obviously improve on that with a victory in the teams' rematch next month.
I do think Carolina has a legit case for a 1 seed, but to your point, basing it off a win over an average Duke team is laughable.
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I'm sorry but there's no way I can root for Wisconsin in this game.
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I'm sorry but there's no way I can root for Wisconsin in this game.
Agreed. I'd like to solidify our Tourney seed ahead of them and a Purdue win helps.
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Badgers are dominating Purdue
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Badgers are dominating Purdue
Refs have left their whistles at the hotel.
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Purdue with a terrible start. No offensive flow, poor discipline in general.
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Refs have left their whistles at the hotel.
They were worn out in the NU/Purdue game.
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Purdue with a terrible start. No offensive flow, poor discipline in general.
Dung
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I don't think Edey has taken a shot.
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I don't think Edey has taken a shot.
They are doing a great job on him. Not letting him catch, and when he does they are swarming. Some of the swarms would probably be fouls on the road, but hey...it's working.
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They are doing a great job on him. Not letting him catch, and when he does they are swarming. Some of the swarms would probably be fouls on the road, but hey...it's working.
Fair point.
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I obviously dont watch the badgers play often
But I honestly am not sure I have seen Klesmit miss a single shot this year
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I simply do not trust Purdue come tourney time.
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I obviously dont watch the badgers play often
But I honestly am not sure I have seen Klesmit miss a single shot this year
He's been very solid.
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I obviously dont watch the badgers play often
But I honestly am not sure I have seen Klesmit miss a single shot this year
He’s good at the Kohl Center and trash on the road. I think he only has 1 game in double digits away from home this season
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Reading these last several comments I went looking for he Purdue-UW score expecting Purdue to be losing…only to see they are up by 2 at the half. Guess I should know better.
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Reading these last several comments I went looking for he Purdue-UW score expecting Purdue to be losing…only to see they are up by 2 at the half. Guess I should know better.
Apparently COLE is transitory.
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Reading these last several comments I went looking for he Purdue-UW score expecting Purdue to be losing…only to see they are up by 2 at the half. Guess I should know better.
Wisconsin was shooting significantly better than them. Other than FT attempts, just looking at the stats you’d have expected UW to be up decently. Purdue started slow but water is finding its level
Wisconsin won’t fall apart as bad as someone like OU has, but I expect them to be closer to the 5 seed line than a 2 come mid March
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Wisconsin was shooting significantly better than them. Other than FT attempts, just looking at the stats you’d have expected UW to be up decently. Purdue started slow but water is finding its level
Wisconsin won’t fall apart as bad as someone like OU has, but I expect them to be closer to the 5 seed line than a 2 come mid March
This game is far from over. I'm afraid Purdue won't finish.....hope I'm wrong.
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Purdue had some chances to get some real separation and couldn't cash in.
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For a guy who does all his work in the post it is amazing how bad Wahl is in the paint.
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For a guy who does all his work in the post it is amazing how bad Wahl is in the paint.
He also constantly travels and fouls with his off arm.
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Refs taking over
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What a horrible call that was. The home cooking in Madison is second to none in America.
Fun game though.
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Refs taking over
Wow....wth was that call??
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Painter seems furious.
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Refs taking over
There's been some interesting calls in the last few minutes.
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This is a nice lead-in to the Providence/Nova game later on.
Huge implications in that one. Neither can really afford to lose and someone's gotta!
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Thought Purdue was losing, this is like an MU game thread
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Dung
Stevie!
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I simply do not trust Purdue come tourney time.
I trust them as much as anyone other than UConn this year, honestly.
Edey has missed a lot of bunnies in this game and they are finding a way to keep the lead on the road vs. a good Wisconsin team. They can beat you in a lot more ways this year than last year. They have a nice mix of guys. Will they win a title? I don't know. Probably not. But I'd be very surprised if they bowed out early this year. They are undefeated on home and neutral courts and have beat Gonzaga, Tennesee, Marquette, Alabama, Arizona, and Illinois. That's a crazy set of wins against five of the top ten non-Purdue KenPom teams.
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Brick FT from Edey. Very costly.
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Purdue is simply trying to survive right now.
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Purdue is simply trying to survive right now.
It looks that way to me. Very upsetting PG.
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It looks that way to me. Very upsetting PG.
Jones has been huge for Purude.
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Jones has been huge for Purude.
Smith hasn't done anything in the 2H.
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Make a few throw Edey.
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Brick FT from Edey. Very costly.
Up 7 with 2:30 left I'ml take it
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how is that not an and one for Eady? he got fouled on the dunk.
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Up 7 with 2:30 left I'ml take it
Was that a foul on Edey? Ughh.
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Was that a foul on Edey? Ughh.
If standing there is a foul, then yes it was a foul on him
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Wow.....no foul on Chucky????
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That was nothing. If they call anything on Edey there then the fix is in
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hit these FTs and ice it
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Bucky out of the top 10
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hit these FTs and ice it
Yes.
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Sweet Jesus.
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What was Smith thinking?
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Chuckie's reaction "You know you're not supposed to call fouls on us at home???"
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Gard and rodent/weasel fans have lost their minds.
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Purdue inbounding is an adventure.
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This is absolutely insane.
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Purdue is a disaster under pressure.
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Purdue inbounding is an adventure.
They are getting held all over the floor.
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You have the most unstoppable force in college basketball. Throw a freaking lob for the inbounds. Jim McIlvane is still open.
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Klesmit threw his head into the Purdue playrs arm
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Looked like Klesmit grabbed Gillis so he could ram his face into Gillis's elbow looking for a flagrant.
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This is absolutely insane.
Purdue will still go down earlier than expected in the tournament because of their inability to handle pressure.
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Will this game ever end
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Nice to see the flop is still part of BADgers game. Klesmit ran into his elbow
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You have the most unstoppable force in college basketball. Throw a freaking lob for the inbounds. Jim McIlvane is still open.
Plus he's a 70% FT shooter.
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Purdue is a disaster under pressure.
Yes. Part of the reason I don't trust them in the tournament.
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Looked like Klesmit grabbed Gillis so he could ram his face into Gillis's elbow looking for a flagrant.
That's exactly what happened.
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Loss (blew a huge lead)
Loss
Weasels should fall 5 spots min.
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This was very entertaining, I'm going to be drunk all week.
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So what's the tally for top 15 team's records this week? A lot of losses again this week.
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The final minute in college basketball is an assortment of ineptitude, unwatchability and WAY too long
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So what's the tally for top 15 team's records this week? A lot of losses again this week.
3,4,5,6,7,10,12,13, and 15 all had losses this week.
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The final minute in college basketball is an assortment of ineptitude, unwatchability and WAY too long
The Elam Ending may have a new Exhibit A.
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The final minute in college basketball is an assortment of ineptitude, unwatchability and WAY too long
dung
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Very instructive game.
++ Scoopers who lamented a few weeks back that Madison had a clear path to the Big 27 title ... well yeah ... if they could beat Purdue twice and avoid road upsets to bad teams. I mean, we have a clear path to the BEast title as long as we beat UConn twice and avoid any more upsets.
++ It was fun to watch Madison experience the kind of shooting woes we did in our losses. I think they were 0-for-10-ish from 3 in the second half.
++ What a bunch of whiners and floppers. Some things never change.
++ Madison is a good team. There are dozens of good teams. They are light years from great. They could win a few games in March or go out in the first weekend. The same can be said about Marquette. I doubt we'll play Madison in the NCAAT, but I'd prefer a game against them on a neutral court to a game against any number of other teams.
++ Purdue has obvious strengths but also glaring weaknesses, continuing the trend of there being no truly great teams in college basketball this season.
++ It would be A-OK for me if we're the #2 seed in the region where Purdue is #1 (or even better, vice versa). I'd expect us to beat them. Take them away from their friendly home refs, and they're just another good to very good team.
++ It will be lovely to see the polls tomorrow showing us ahead of Madison again. As it should be.
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Very instructive game.
++ Scoopers who lamented a few weeks back that Madison had a clear path to the Big 27 title ... well yeah ... if they could beat Purdue twice and avoid road upsets to bad teams. I mean, we have a clear path to the BEast title as long as we beat UConn twice and avoid any more upsets.
++ It was fun to watch Madison experience the kind of shooting woes we did in our losses. I think they were 0-for-10-ish from 3 in the second half.
++ What a bunch of whiners and floppers. Some things never change.
++ Madison is a good team. There are dozens of good teams. They are light years from great. They could win a few games in March or go out in the first weekend. The same can be said about Marquette. I doubt we'll play Madison in the NCAAT, but I'd prefer a game against them on a neutral court to a game against any number of other teams.
++ Purdue has obvious strengths but also glaring weaknesses, continuing the trend of there being no truly great teams in college basketball this season.
++ It would be A-OK for me if we're the #2 seed in the region where Purdue is #1 (or even better, vice versa). I'd expect us to beat them. Take them away from their friendly home refs, and they're just another good to very good team.
++ It will be lovely to see the polls tomorrow showing us ahead of Madison again. As it should be.
Marquette will never recover from that loss in Madison
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How the hell is Wisconsin rated #6 and beat us this year? Supposedly we have a better coach, better recruiting, and better talent. Yet we are sucking their hind tit.
Tired of Wisconsin Vadgers.
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uw-Madison has a lot of experience and were able to bring in a transfer from a better conference.
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How the hell is Wisconsin rated #6 and beat us this year? Supposedly we have a better coach, better recruiting, and better talent. Yet we are sucking their hind tit.
Tired of Wisconsin Vadgers.
Marquette is in the top ten, 17-5, 8-3 in league and won 6 in a row
Thanks, Willie
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Very instructive game.
++ Scoopers who lamented a few weeks back that Madison had a clear path to the Big 27 title ... well yeah ... if they could beat Purdue twice and avoid road upsets to bad teams. I mean, we have a clear path to the BEast title as long as we beat UConn twice and avoid any more upsets.
++ It was fun to watch Madison experience the kind of shooting woes we did in our losses. I think they were 0-for-10-ish from 3 in the second half.
++ What a bunch of whiners and floppers. Some things never change.
++ Madison is a good team. There are dozens of good teams. They are light years from great. They could win a few games in March or go out in the first weekend. The same can be said about Marquette. I doubt we'll play Madison in the NCAAT, but I'd prefer a game against them on a neutral court to a game against any number of other teams.
++ Purdue has obvious strengths but also glaring weaknesses, continuing the trend of there being no truly great teams in college basketball this season.
++ It would be A-OK for me if we're the #2 seed in the region where Purdue is #1 (or even better, vice versa). I'd expect us to beat them. Take them away from their friendly home refs, and they're just another good to very good team.
++ It will be lovely to see the polls tomorrow showing us ahead of Madison again. As it should be.
We won’t be favored at Creighton. So if we win 2 against UCONN and avoid any other upset we’d still need UCONN to lose another game to win the BE.
We already got Purdue away from their friendly confines. They just beat a very good Wisconsin team on the road. They’re a great team. Home, away, or neutral.
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How the hell is Wisconsin rated #6 and beat us this year? Supposedly we have a better coach, better recruiting, and better talent. Yet we are sucking their hind tit.
Tired of Wisconsin Vadgers.
ya and they had more wins in their postseason tournament last year than we had in ours.
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Kentucky couldn't have lost at home to UNC-Wilmington because Kentucky supposedly has a better coach, better recruiting and better talent.
There never ever ever are any inexplicable upsets in college basketball. Any time one team beats another, it's because the winning team has a better coach, better recruiting and better talent and the losing team is sucking their hind tit.
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Very instructive game.
++ Scoopers who lamented a few weeks back that Madison had a clear path to the Big 27 title ... well yeah ... if they could beat Purdue twice and avoid road upsets to bad teams. I mean, we have a clear path to the BEast title as long as we beat UConn twice and avoid any more upsets.
++ It was fun to watch Madison experience the kind of shooting woes we did in our losses. I think they were 0-for-10-ish from 3 in the second half.
++ What a bunch of whiners and floppers. Some things never change.
++ Madison is a good team. There are dozens of good teams. They are light years from great. They could win a few games in March or go out in the first weekend. The same can be said about Marquette. I doubt we'll play Madison in the NCAAT, but I'd prefer a game against them on a neutral court to a game against any number of other teams.
++ Purdue has obvious strengths but also glaring weaknesses, continuing the trend of there being no truly great teams in college basketball this season.
++ It would be A-OK for me if we're the #2 seed in the region where Purdue is #1 (or even better, vice versa). I'd expect us to beat them. Take them away from their friendly home refs, and they're just another good to very good team.
++ It will be lovely to see the polls tomorrow showing us ahead of Madison again. As it should be.
I can't fking stand them. I thought the end of the game WAS very instructive in amplifying their colossal douchebaggery on a number of levels.
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We won’t be favored at Creighton. So if we win 2 against UCONN and avoid any other upset we’d still need UCONN to lose another game to win the BE.
Long ways away. Could be favored at CU
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We won’t be favored at Creighton. So if we win 2 against UCONN and avoid any other upset we’d still need UCONN to lose another game to win the BE.
We already got Purdue away from their friendly confines. They just beat a very good Wisconsin team on the road. They’re a great team. Home, away, or neutral.
Good point about Creighton, though we'll see what happens between now and our game there.
Purdue is a very good team. Their best player can't make FTs, they are loose with the basketball late in close games, etc. They lost to a 16-seed last year, and certainly could lose in the first weekend again ... or they could go to the Final Four. In other words, they're like many other very good teams.
I'd say they are no better than we are ... but if you would counter by saying they are 1 possession better than we are, I wouldn't argue with you.
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Good point about Creighton, though we'll see what happens between now and our game there.
Purdue is a very good team. Their best player can't make FTs, they are loose with the basketball late in close games, etc. They lost to a 16-seed last year, and certainly could lose in the first weekend again ... or they could go to the Final Four. In other words, they're like many other very good teams.
I'd say they are no better than we are ... but if you would counter by saying they are 1 possession better than we are, I wouldn't argue with you.
Pretty much every metric says they are better than us. I’d love to see them because it’d be an Elite 8 or Final 4 game. But I’d rather see a number of other teams that far into the Tourney than Purdue.
Every year we hear there are no great teams. Then every year someone winds up looking pretty great.
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UConn is pretty darn good. That doesn't mean they won't lose another conference road game or two. But if they are healthy at tourney time, I think they repeat.
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Pretty much every metric says they are better than us. I’d love to see them because it’d be an Elite 8 or Final 4 game. But I’d rather see a number of other teams that far into the Tourney than Purdue.
Every year we hear there are no great teams. Then every year someone winds up looking pretty great.
Every year? How about last year, when a 4-seed wound up looking pretty great ... because none of the 12 top seeds was a great team.
It's gonna be a fun March to see what's what, wades!
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Every year? How about last year, when a 4-seed wound up looking pretty great ... because none of the 12 top seeds was a great team.
It's gonna be a fun March to see what's what, wades!
UConn was a great team that had a bad month. They were very clearly the best team in the country.
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How the hell is Wisconsin rated #6 and beat us this year? Supposedly we have a better coach, better recruiting, and better talent. Yet we are sucking their hind tit.
Tired of Wisconsin Vadgers.
Is this the first use of the term “hind tit” in Scoop history?
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Willie gotta willie.
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UConn was a great team that had a bad month. They were very clearly the best team in the country.
Did you pick them to win it all before the NCAAT started? I know a few folks did, so if you did too, wades, good on you. Seriously.
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Is this the first use of the term “hind tit” in Scoop history?
I haven’t heard any within the Badger fandom come up to me and say..hey, Marquette guy, your team sucks my hind tit…but it wouldn’t be beneath them to say it, imo.
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Very instructive game.
++ Scoopers who lamented a few weeks back that Madison had a clear path to the Big 27 title ... well yeah ... if they could beat Purdue twice and avoid road upsets to bad teams. I mean, we have a clear path to the BEast title as long as we beat UConn twice and avoid any more upsets.
They did have a clear path and I was lamenting it. They were undefeated in the conference (5-0) and Purdue had two losses (3-2). They only needed to avoid having more road losses than Purdue, and/or split with Purdue. They did not have to sweep Purdue. Purdue also is a prime candidate to lose another game or two as they probably should have against Northwestern last week.
By losing 3 of their first 5 conference games MU has not been in position to control its own destiny without sweeping UConn. They’ve had to win 6 in a row just to claw their way into second place, but still 2 games behind UConn.
The Badgers blew a golden opportunity to win the conference by losing to a pretty mediocre Penn State team and blowing the huge lead at Nebraska.
Because their other remaining road games are against the dregs of the Big 10 there is still a good chance that they can gain at least a share of the conference title in their final game at Purdue.
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They did have a clear path and I was lamenting it. They were undefeated in the conference (5-0) and Purdue had two losses (3-2). They only needed to avoid having more road losses than Purdue, and/or split with Purdue. They did not have to sweep Purdue. Purdue also is a prime candidate to lose another game or two as they probably should have against Northwestern last week.
By losing 3 of their first 5 conference games MU has not been in position to control its own destiny without sweeping UConn. They’ve had to win 6 in a row just to claw their way into second place, but still 2 games behind UConn.
The Badgers blew a golden opportunity to win the conference by losing to a pretty mediocre Penn State team and blowing the huge lead at Nebraska.
Because their other remaining road games are against the dregs of the Big 10 there is still a good chance that they can gain at least a share of the conference title in their final game at Purdue.
I guess it depends on how one defines "clear path." It was no more realistic to expect Madison to avoid upsets than it is for any other team. After only 5 games, I'd argue that nobody has a "clear path." You apparently feel differently, and that's your right.
Madison almost surely will lose more games this season before the conference tournament, perhaps even to a dreg. Purdue very well might, too. And Marquette probably will as well, and we've already blown a golden opportunity by losing at home to Butler and on the road to Seton Hall, both teams better than Penn State IMHO.
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They did have a clear path and I was lamenting it. They were undefeated in the conference (5-0) and Purdue had two losses (3-2). They only needed to avoid having more road losses than Purdue, and/or split with Purdue. They did not have to sweep Purdue. Purdue also is a prime candidate to lose another game or two as they probably should have against Northwestern last week.
By losing 3 of their first 5 conference games MU has not been in position to control its own destiny without sweeping UConn. They’ve had to win 6 in a row just to claw their way into second place, but still 2 games behind UConn.
The Badgers blew a golden opportunity to win the conference by losing to a pretty mediocre Penn State team and blowing the huge lead at Nebraska.
Because their other remaining road games are against the dregs of the Big 10 there is still a good chance that they can gain at least a share of the conference title in their final game at Purdue.
You don't have a "clear path" 5 games into the season Blue. A lot can happen and still happen. You can also make an argument that we blew two games. The final score is the final score. The only thing that is apparent is the top of the BEast and B18 appear to have three teams that are better than the pack, and the bottom 2 of both conferences pretty much suck.
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You don't have a "clear path" 5 games into the season Blue. A lot can happen and still happen. You can also make an argument that we blew two games. The final score is the final score. The only thing that is apparent is the top of the BEast and B18 appear to have three teams that are better than the pack, and the bottom 2 of both conferences pretty much suck.
The Butler loss mostly kills the dream of a second big east title. Needed that one.
Im not too worried about it though. Winning either of the BE titles again this year would be awesome but the NCCAT is what truly matters.
We just need to keep stock piling wins from here on out and get another great seed and hopefully a nice draw.
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Is this the first use of the term “hind tit” in Scoop history?
i think i've used the term hind titty here somewhere on scoop, so technically speaking-yes
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The Great AJ Storr - 4-for-15 shooting (0-4 from 3), 2 rebs, 1 assist.
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The Great AJ Storr - 4-for-15 shooting (0-4 from 3), 2 rebs, 1 assist.
Storr takes 34% of the shots when he’s on the court. 14th highest rate in the nation. 49% effective fg%, 32% from 3. Let him shoot
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We can quibble about what is a “clear path” just like we can quibble about “must win” games.
But the statement that the Badgers, who were two games ahead of Purdue at the time, needed to sweep Purdue to win the league title is factually inaccurate.
That two game lead, which included a road win over MSU, put them in a plum position.
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The Butler loss mostly kills the dream of a second big east title. Needed that one.
Im not too worried about it though. Winning either of the BE titles again this year would be awesome but the NCCAT is what truly matters.
We just need to keep stock piling wins from here on out and get another great seed and hopefully a nice draw.
There's no question that was a terrible loss and an unmitigated disaster/meltdown. Because we clearly lost our poise and beat ourselves. That said while it's going to be extremely difficult to finish 1st in the BEast, or get a #1 tourney seed, a #2 seed is right there for us.
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We can quibble about what is a “clear path” just like we can quibble about “must win” games.
But the statement that the Badgers, who were two games ahead of Purdue at the time, needed to sweep Purdue to win the league title is factually inaccurate.
That two game lead, which included a road win over MSU, put them in a plum position.
I think you're just way off with this "clear path" narrative after 5 games.
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Storr takes 34% of the shots when he’s on the court. 14th highest rate in the nation. 49% effective fg%, 32% from 3. Let him shoot
The Great AJ Storr - 4-for-15 shooting (0-4 from 3), 2 rebs, 1 assist.
Yeah, he totally sucks. He’s only made them virtually by himself from an NIT team to an NCAA lock and potential high seed.
I have no love for the Badgers either, but give me a break with your silly cheap shots after an off game. We’d all be thrilled if he were in the blue and gold and praise on this board would be effusive to put it mildly.
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Yeah, he totally sucks. He’s only made them virtually by himself from an NIT team to an NCAA lock and potential high seed.
I have no love for the Badgers either, but give me a break with your silly cheap shots after an off game. We’d all be thrilled if he were in the blue and gold and praise on this board would be effusive to put it mildly.
They’d be better if he shot less
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Yeah, he totally sucks. He’s only made them virtually by himself from an NIT team to an NCAA lock and potential high seed.
I have no love for the Badgers either, but give me a break with your silly cheap shots after an off game. We’d all be thrilled if he were in the blue and gold and praise on this board would be effusive to put it mildly.
Storr is very and a huge addition
But to say he has virtually by himself brought them from NIT to high seed is just an insane comment. Development is a thing, you know for every player on that team the same way he developed from last year?
Also, Rico isnt exactly wrong. As good as Storr is, he does chuck a lot and in crunch time it isnt exactly a bad thing to force the opponent into playing basically 1 guy against your 5 options.
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Storr is very and a huge addition
But to say he has virtually by himself brought them from NIT to high seed is just an insane comment. Development is a thing, you know for every player on that team the same way he developed from last year?
Also, Rico isnt exactly wrong. As good as Storr is, he does chuck a lot and in crunch time it isnt exactly a bad thing to force the opponent into playing basically 1 guy against your 5 options.
They’re a better team with Storr playing much more than Essegian. He’s more explosive and creative and gets to the free throw line. I won’t comment on his defense. I don’t think they’re anything special on defense across the board.
Wisconsin is much better when the ball moves and it gets stuck with him in the game too often.
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i think i've used the term hind titty here somewhere on scoop, so technically speaking-yes
Shocking.
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Storr is very and a huge addition
But to say he has virtually by himself brought them from NIT to high seed is just an insane comment. Development is a thing, you know for every player on that team the same way he developed from last year?
Also, Rico isnt exactly wrong. As good as Storr is, he does chuck a lot and in crunch time it isnt exactly a bad thing to force the opponent into playing basically 1 guy against your 5 options.
The only other addition from last year of any significance is Blackwell. The returning guys are virtually the same as last year, with Essegian and Hepburn worse. Their offensive team efficiency has improved dramatically over last year which is obviously almost entirely thanks to Storr. They were in the 100’s last year and recently were in the top 10.
The fact is they were an NIT team last year and are a top 10 team today. So to say my take is “insane” is hyperbolic sh$$. Same coach, returnees producing about the same and worse in a couple cases, and Blackwell the only other new guy contributing. So I have no idea what you’re basing your argument on except wanting to argue.
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The only other addition from last year of any significance is Blackwell. The returning guys are virtually the same as last year, with Essegian and Hepburn worse. Their offensive team efficiency has improved dramatically over last year which is obviously almost entirely thanks to Storr. They were in the 100’s last year and recently were in the top 10.
The fact is they were an NIT team last year and are a top 10 team today. So to say my take is “insane” is hyperbolic sh$$. Same coach, returnees producing about the same and worse in a couple cases, and Blackwell the only other new guy contributing. So I have no idea what you’re basing your argument on except wanting to argue.
Storr's advanced stats are not good
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The only other addition from last year of any significance is Blackwell. The returning guys are virtually the same as last year, with Essegian and Hepburn worse. Their offensive team efficiency has improved dramatically over last year which is obviously almost entirely thanks to Storr. They were in the 100’s last year and recently were in the top 10.
The fact is they were an NIT team last year and are a top 10 team today. So to say my take is “insane” is hyperbolic sh$$. Same coach, returnees producing about the same and worse in a couple cases, and Blackwell the only other new guy contributing. So I have no idea what you’re basing your argument on except wanting to argue.
No its insane. And youre doubling down.
Players get better year to year. Teams grow year to year. You saying they literally only improved because of Storr is batsh it. Are they way worse defensively this year because of Storr then? All his fault?
Again, Storr himself got better from last year. Crowl is much better this year. Entered the game with a eFG% of 62. His career is 55%.
Klesmit? Much better
Wahl? Easily his best season
You made a dumb comment, move on.
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The only other addition from last year of any significance is Blackwell. The returning guys are virtually the same as last year, with Essegian and Hepburn worse. Their offensive team efficiency has improved dramatically over last year which is obviously almost entirely thanks to Storr. They were in the 100’s last year and recently were in the top 10.
The fact is they were an NIT team last year and are a top 10 team today. So to say my take is “insane” is hyperbolic sh$$. Same coach, returnees producing about the same and worse in a couple cases, and Blackwell the only other new guy contributing. So I have no idea what you’re basing your argument on except wanting to argue.
Crowl offensive rating this year versus last: 124.9 vs. 109, doubling his offensive rebounding from last year
Wahl offensive rating this year versus last: 117 vs. 93, effective fg% of 56.5 vs. 43.9 last year
Hepburn offensive rating this year versus last: 106.2 vs 98.3, can’t shoot but is shooting less. He still stinks
Klesmit offensive rating this year versus last: 120 vs. 106, effective fg% is 61.9 vs. 53
Team is better offensively across the board. It isn’t just Storr
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They struggled after Wahl’s injury last year. He seemed limited when he returned.
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Crowl offensive rating this year versus last: 124.9 vs. 109, doubling his offensive rebounding from last year
Wahl offensive rating this year versus last: 117 vs. 93, effective fg% of 56.5 vs. 43.9 last year
Hepburn offensive rating this year versus last: 106.2 vs 98.3, can’t shoot but is shooting less. He still stinks
Klesmit offensive rating this year versus last: 120 vs. 106, effective fg% is 61.9 vs. 53
Team is better offensively across the board. It isn’t just Storr
Take the L, Hutch.
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Illinois just pissed away a 10 point lead with about 3 mins to go.
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Fun ending. Off to OT
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Illinois just pissed away a 10 point lead with about 3 mins to go.
At home
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Tominaga is fun to watch when he's feeling it.
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Rebounding is killing the Huskers.
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All night. Feels like a bad MU rebounding game.
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You have to take that open look in that situation.
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"Do you try to miss this on purpose" up 3 with 1.7 secs to go?? WTF?
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Mast has got to shoot that.
Missed multiple bunnies in OT too.
Tough loss for Nebraska. Still without a big 10 road win.
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"Do you try to miss this on purpose" up 3 with 1.7 secs to go?? WTF?
The Jason Kidd school of coaching.
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I simply do not trust Purdue come tourney time.
Given the massive help they get from the refs, it’s a done deal I fear.
https://x.com/benscottstevens/status/1754236652330107372?s=46&t=wj-kQtLCLPNb9xDTKbHRvQ
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Given the massive help they get from the refs, it’s a done deal I fear.
https://x.com/benscottstevens/status/1754236652330107372?s=46&t=wj-kQtLCLPNb9xDTKbHRvQ
Hepburn literally bumped into him.
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Given the massive help they get from the refs, it’s a done deal I fear.
https://x.com/benscottstevens/status/1754236652330107372?s=46&t=wj-kQtLCLPNb9xDTKbHRvQ
LOL.
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We can quibble about what is a “clear path” just like we can quibble about “must win” games.
But the statement that the Badgers, who were two games ahead of Purdue at the time, needed to sweep Purdue to win the league title is factually inaccurate.
That two game lead, which included a road win over MSU, put them in a plum position.
You’re right about the 2-game lead. I think I’m right about 5 games being far too early to set up any team for anything.
Anyhoo, glad they choked on the plum.
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Hepburn literally bumped into him.
After he moved his pivot foot, twice.
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Torvik has UW at 23.6% chance of sharing the B10 championship. Before they lost to Nebraska they were 34%.
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Does the committee actually look at head to head match-ups come seed time? Assuming similar overall resumes? Ty.
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Yeah, he totally sucks. He’s only made them virtually by himself from an NIT team to an NCAA lock and potential high seed.
The fact is they were an NIT team last year and are a top 10 team today. ... Same coach, returnees producing about the same and worse in a couple cases, and Blackwell the only other new guy contributing.
In 2021-22, Marquette was a middle-of-the-pack Big East team. We lost our only two double-figure scorers, our top two rebounders, our best shot-blocker and our second-best 3-point shooter. The only additions were not-5-star freshmen Chase Ross, Sean Jones and Ben Gold.
Did Ross, Jones and Gold make them virtually by themselves the 2022-23 Big East regular-season and tournament champions?
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We won’t be favored at Creighton.
If they keep giving up 99 points to teams like Butler, we will be. KenPom currently has them only favored by 1. If we win our next 6 (which includes at UConn) and they go 4-3 in that stretch (what they're currently projected to do per KenPom), we will likely be favored.
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Does the committee actually look at head to head match-ups come seed time? Assuming similar overall resumes? Ty.
Yes, the most obvious recent example being Alabama over Houston for the overall top seed last year. The Cougars had the metric advantages, but Alabama had a H2H win on Houston's court and landed the top seed.
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If they keep giving up 99 points to teams like Butler, we will be. KenPom currently has them only favored by 1. If we win our next 6 (which includes at UConn) and they go 4-3 in that stretch (what they're currently projected to do per KenPom), we will likely be favored.
Sadly, Shaka is owned by McDermott
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Sadly, Shaka is owned by McDermott
Marquette is 3-3 against CU under Shaka. Winning the last 3.
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Marquette is 3-3 against CU under Shaka. Winning the last 3.
Sorry, I get my analysis from Willie
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Sadly, Shaka is owned by McDermott
er, Gard. Shaka is owned by Gard.
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Sorry, I get my analysis from Willie
If that were really true, you wouldn't have just called our coach "Shaka."
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Miami has 23 points with just 10 minutes left against Virginia. Will they score 30 this game?
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Miami has 23 points with just 10 minutes left against Virginia. Will they score 30 this game?
Virginia is good again. That’s unfortunate
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Congrats to Jim Larranaga and Miami for lighting it up and getting to 38 pts to close the game.
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Congrats to Jim Larranaga and Miami for lighting it up and getting to 38 pts to close the game.
Wow. I didn’t realize Miami was so bad this season…
What happened to that squad?
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Wow. I didn’t realize Miami was so bad this season…
What happened to that squad?
Players fighting.over NIL deals
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Wasn't Miami preseason top 15?
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Virginia is good again. That’s unfortunate
Sam lit that program on fire. Took Bennett a few years to find himself again.
National champion. Sam hops on the bandwagon immediately. Missed the Tourney with Sam sitting out a year. Upset round 1 with Sam starting. Misses the Tournament the year after Sam leaves. Then ACC Champions once again.
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https://www.si.com/college/tamu/basketball/hes-been-through-alot-buzz-williams-praises-tamu-aggies-star-tyrece-radford-following-florida-win
Buzz saying what’s been said about Radford online isn’t true. Wonder if he got the entire team together at his house to get everyone on the same page on what is “true.”
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How the hell is Wisconsin rated #6 and beat us this year? Supposedly we have a better coach, better recruiting, and better talent. Yet we are sucking their hind tit.
Tired of Wisconsin Vadgers.
AP poll is dung
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Anyone watching Kansas KState? "one quarter" left and a one point game. Come on Wildcats.
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Virginia is good again.
No they’re not. Pomeroy has them at #47. They’ve finished the season ranked lower than that one time in the last 13 years.
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Anyone watching Kansas KState? "one quarter" left and a one point game. Come on Wildcats.
Big triple there. Self looks very upset.
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Hope the Jayhawks lose. Can’t stand Self.
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Virginia was pretty much a consensus first 4 team before todays game. And Miami has been trash.
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Two ugly turnovers from K.Stare.
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Two ugly turnovers from K.Stare.
K St is just brutal offensively.
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if they could take care of ball they would be in front
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K St is just brutal offensively.
A bucket here might be enough Hutch?
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Two ugly turnovers from K.Stare.
That pass off the backboard, don’t see that too often 😳
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Kaluma still a totally blah player
NBA not exactly salvating for a inconsistent shooter who doesnt pass or protect the ball
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Fk. What the H was that????
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Fk. What the H was that????
Oof, that was terrible.
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No they’re not. Pomeroy has them at #47. They’ve finished the season ranked lower than that one time in the last 13 years.
Three weeks ago they were 69. Advancing 22 spots in that time frame, this late in the season requires playing very well.... which is why I assume Rico said "again"
Per Bart Torvik (similar to KenPom) since January 16, Virginia has been the fifth best team in the country. If this is a new normal, they might be "good"
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That should have been a moving screen foul on Dickindouche.
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Count that!
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Miami was trash tonight. But they beat K State earlier this year. And K State is about to beat Kansas.
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K.State ball?
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Miami was trash tonight. But they beat K State earlier this year. And K State is about to beat Kansas.
Nah.
They are 62 in NET and 72 in Kenpom. They have been a massive disappointment. 1 Q1 win. They have been good in Q2 but their resume is not good. And tonight will kill that even more.
Also, Kstate just lost to Ok State if we are gonna play that game.
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Self looks extremely upset.
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Omg. That was ridiculous! Pass the ball!!
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What the F is Self complaining about there?
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Self is going to have heart attack
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big ft s by kahluma
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Ty Kansas St!!
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are they gonna storm?
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Ty Kansas St!!
Amen. That crowd is storming the court for sure.
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MU creeping closer to the 1 line.
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So if Kansa beats Baylor on the weekend will the polls even move them down? A good test of the weight they put on an early week loss
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That doesn't even look like Tyler Perry. Of course I haven't seen M'adea in a while
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Who is the best team in the B12?
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Kstate 11-0 in OT under Tang
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Can’t stand Self.
Don't be so hard on yourself. You're a tremendous slouch.
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Who is the best team in the B12?
Field of 68 pushing the disinformation that B12 is the best conference
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Three weeks ago they were 69. Advancing 22 spots in that time frame, this late in the season requires playing very well.... which is why I assume Rico said "again"
Per Bart Torvik (similar to KenPom) since January 16, Virginia has been the fifth best team in the country. If this is a new normal, they might be "good"
Correct. 7 straight wins.
I would prefer they were not good again
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Field of 68 pushing the disinformation that B12 is the best conference
Which league is better? The worst team is West Virginia who is 135 in KenPom. That ain’t good, but the top 12 teams are 72 or better. From a depth standpoint, no league is better.
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Which league is better? The worst team is West Virginia who is 135 in KenPom. That ain’t good, but the top 12 teams are 72 or better. From a depth standpoint, no league is better.
The argument is that systems like kenpom and the NET are gamed by the B12 blowing out Q4 cupcakes but being mediocre against non-con opponents. Teams like BYU, Iowa State, Cincinnati, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech, and TCU are all top-40 NET and in the mix for bids, but largely because they played 8+ Q4 games to get there and now are able to build up their Q1/2 resume in conference because everyone is overrated.
Does it have merit? Maybe. But they did have to beat those cupcakes in metrically efficient fashion that other leagues did not match. Ultimately, March will be what decides if they're overrated or not.
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The argument is that systems like kenpom and the NET are gamed by the B12 blowing out Q4 cupcakes but being mediocre against non-con opponents. Teams like BYU, Iowa State, Cincinnati, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech, and TCU are all top-40 NET and in the mix for bids, but largely because they played 8+ Q4 games to get there and now are able to build up their Q1/2 resume in conference because everyone is overrated.
Does it have merit? Maybe. But they did have to beat those cupcakes in metrically efficient fashion that other leagues did not match. Ultimately, March will be what decides if they're overrated or not.
Forget the metrics for a moment, but this is one instance where the eye test makes me believe this is the best league.
Could they flame out in March? Sure. The SEC could put 5 teams in the Sweet 16. Wouldn’t make them the best league for the season.
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I'm really hoping Houston and Kansas continue to rack up losses. It's still early but it looks like two #1 seeds are in play. UNC plays in a awful conf (which may help them) but if tbe B12 stays bunched up I think that could help our cause. Our battles with UCONN coming up have a chance of being absolutely epic. Believe me the intensity will be there from our guys.
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Virginia was pretty much a consensus first 4 team before todays game. And Miami has been trash.
And Virginia lost to ND which is almost impossible to do if you are a good team.
But teams get better over the course of a season. So who knows?
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And Virginia lost to ND which is almost impossible to do if you are a good team.
Yeah, when I saw that score that night, I just assumed that Bennett had one of his worst (if not the worst) teams.
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Yeah, when I saw that score that night, I just assumed that Bennett had one of his worst (if not the worst) teams.
Teams can improve dramatically as a season goes along
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Teams can improve dramatically as a season goes along
Oh definitely. And in this case, Virginia obviously has.
I mean, Kentucky lost at home to UNC-Wilmington, which means nothing today.
But at that moment, when I saw that score, I was like, "Whaaaaat?"
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Yeah, when I saw that score that night, I just assumed that Bennett had one of his worst (if not the worst) teams.
I loved the MU fans boos when MU gave up that first ND basket this year. Pretty funny.
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Teams can improve dramatically as a season goes along
I did edit my original post to say that Rico. It was just such a bad loss though.
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I did edit my original post to say that Rico. It was just such a bad loss though.
It was. Virginia was bad to start the year. Let’s see how they finish
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I loved the MU fans boos when MU gave up that first ND basket this year. Pretty funny.
That was a fun game to go to ... though it actually became a little boring in the second half because MU started playing down to ND's very, very, very low level.
Looking forward to Saturday. Fiserv will be rockin'!
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Forget the metrics for a moment, but this is one instance where the eye test makes me believe this is the best league.
Could they flame out in March? Sure. The SEC could put 5 teams in the Sweet 16. Wouldn’t make them the best league for the season.
And this is basically the age-old debate. Is the Big 12 gaming the metrics and their teams are just close enough to each other that they're always competitive games (fueling the eye test), even if the teams aren't actually as good as the metrics indicate? What if they end up with one team in the Sweet 16 and none beyond that while the ACC gets 3 in the Elite 8 and a team in the Final Four, with those ACC teams accounting for 4 eliminations of B12 teams along the way? We'll get back to the "Big 12 did it when it didn't matter, ACC proved it when it did" that always drives these debates.
I think the best measure is non-conference high-major vs high-major records. But I haven't found a site that has that broken down (I'm sure it's somewhere), and I don't have the time or inclination to calculate it myself.
Ultimately, I'm just looking at it as data points from a bracketology perspective, but it's easy to be skeptical of some of those B12 teams when you look at how they did in non-con play factoring out the Q4 opposition.
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I think the best measure is non-conference high-major vs high-major records. But I haven't found a site that has that broken down (I'm sure it's somewhere), and I don't have the time or inclination to calculate it myself.
I got you fam
https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurconf.html
Big 12 dominated the SEC, had winning records against the B1G and P12, split with BEast, and got dominated by the ACC. But the ACC got dominated by the SEC who got dominated byv the B12 so it depends on matchups.
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I think getting a top 4 seed definitely improves you chances of advancing in the tournament. Especially in the rd of 64. That said the parity is truly amazing right now. No one basically picked FAU or SDSU to make the F4 last year. We could have another year where a few teams come out of nowhere.
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I got you fam
https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurconf.html
Big 12 dominated the SEC, had winning records against the B1G and P12, split with BEast, and got dominated by the ACC. But the ACC got dominated by the SEC who got dominated byv the B12 so it depends on matchups.
Nice site, but I think his percentages may be off
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I think getting a top 4 seed definitely improves you chances of advancing in the tournament. Especially in the rd of 64. That said the parity is truly amazing right now. No one basically picked FAU or SDSU to make the F4 last year. We could have another year where a few teams come out of nowhere.
Part of me says, "Forget about everything that happened in last year's NCAAT. It was such an outlier." But then part of me says, "Maybe that's just the way things are gonna be more times than not in this transfer portal and NIL era."
The NCAAT is always fascinating and fun for numerous reasons, but seeing if we have a real trend going will be one of the more fascinating things this year.
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Part of me says, "Forget about everything that happened in last year's NCAAT. It was such an outlier." But then part of me says, "Maybe that's just the way things are gonna be more times than not in this transfer portal and NIL era."
The NCAAT is always fascinating and fun for numerous reasons, but seeing if we have a real trend going will be one of the more fascinating things this year.
I'm a little worried the powers that be are gonna fk up the tournament at some point. The truth is (outside of rooting for MU) the smaller schools and early upsets play a huge role in the fun of the event. If the super conferences insist on changing things because of money it's going to be a horrible day and future for true college hoop fans.
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And this is basically the age-old debate. Is the Big 12 gaming the metrics and their teams are just close enough to each other that they're always competitive games (fueling the eye test), even if the teams aren't actually as good as the metrics indicate? What if they end up with one team in the Sweet 16 and none beyond that while the ACC gets 3 in the Elite 8 and a team in the Final Four, with those ACC teams accounting for 4 eliminations of B12 teams along the way? We'll get back to the "Big 12 did it when it didn't matter, ACC proved it when it did" that always drives these debates.
I think the best measure is non-conference high-major vs high-major records. But I haven't found a site that has that broken down (I'm sure it's somewhere), and I don't have the time or inclination to calculate it myself.
Ultimately, I'm just looking at it as data points from a bracketology perspective, but it's easy to be skeptical of some of those B12 teams when you look at how they did in non-con play factoring out the Q4 opposition.
I think that’s all fair.
Think the Big XII has the best collection of coaches outside maybe the Big East. Bullish on Texas Tech because I think Grant McCasland is the real deal. Same with Wes Miller at Cincinnati.
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I got you fam
https://www.colleyrankings.com/hcurconf.html
Big 12 dominated the SEC, had winning records against the B1G and P12, split with BEast, and got dominated by the ACC. But the ACC got dominated by the SEC who got dominated byv the B12 so it depends on matchups.
Thanks! I think the five leagues worth considering are the Big 12, Big East, SEC, Big 10, and ACC. The Pac-12 just isn't that good this year and the Mountain West has some nice teams but aren't on that level. Using that site, the cumulative between these five...
Big 12: 25-22
Winning Percentage: 0.532
Average Games/Team: 3.36
Big East: 23-21
Winning Percentage: 0.523
Average Games/Team: 4.00
SEC: 31-29
Winning Percentage: 0.517
Average Games/Team: 4.29
ACC: 26-28
Winning Percentage: 0.481
Average Games/Team: 3.60
Big 10: 18-23
Winning Percentage: 0.439
Average Games/Team: 2.93
The margin between the Big 12, Big East, and SEC is minimal. For instance, had the Big East or SEC won just one more game, they would be at the top of the WP% instead of the Big 12. But the question comes in where the Big 12 scheduled so few of these games (and the Big 10, which Field of 68 ranked ahead of the Big East yesterday).
Also, everyone has their dogs, but there is only one sub-225 NET team in all of these leagues, and that is #314 DePaul. If you removed DePaul, the Big East would go to 22-17, easily the best WP% at .564, with the Big 12 the only other league that had a winning record at 0.522, so it's safe to say the Blue Demons are a drag on the league in this regard.
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That was a fun game to go to ... though it actually became a little boring in the second half because MU started playing down to ND's very, very, very low level.
Looking forward to Saturday. Fiserv will be rockin'!
I actually think that second half is what put us into our funk. Played very sloppy and I think some bad habits creeped in. Nothing catastrophic, but we definitely needed to recalibrate. We got a little loose for a few games.
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Are there any mid majors that jump out as having a chance to win a game or two in the tournament. I would honestly rather see them get a shot than a team like Steon Hall or Butler get a 9/10 seed and bounced right away.
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Are there any mid majors that jump out as having a chance to win a game or two in the tournament. I would honestly rather see them get a shot than a team like Steon Hall or Butler get a 9/10 seed and bounced right away.
Indiana State for sure, maybe Drake out of the Valley.
Mountain West is deep this year
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Are there any mid majors that jump out as having a chance to win a game or two in the tournament. I would honestly rather see them get a shot than a team like Steon Hall or Butler get a 9/10 seed and bounced right away.
I get what you are saying, but I would always want a BE team in the tourney in lieu of a team from another conference, even if the BE one gets bounced in the opening round. My dream FF has at least 2 BE teams in it.
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I get what you are saying, but I would always want a BE team in the tourney in lieu of a team from another conference, even if the BE one gets bounced in the opening round. My dream FF has at least 2 BE teams in it.
Well, I can promise you its not going to be Butler or Seton Hall. This year more than ever it could be Marquette/Uconn
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I'm a little worried the powers that be are gonna fk up the tournament at some point. The truth is (outside of rooting for MU) the smaller schools and early upsets play a huge role in the fun of the event. If the super conferences insist on changing things because of money it's going to be a horrible day and future for true college hoop fans.
This is the gorilla in the corner of the room that people are not acknowledging. I hope the Big East and the teams in it are considered valuable enough to be a major part of any new iteration of the tournament.
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Are there any mid majors that jump out as having a chance to win a game or two in the tournament. I would honestly rather see them get a shot than a team like Steon Hall or Butler get a 9/10 seed and bounced right away.
The most obvious ones are the aforementioned Indiana State and the Mountain West schools. If the A-10 gets a second bid (Richmond, most likely) they could have a shot. St. Mary's is one to watch.
As far as the one-bid leagues, I think Grand Canyon, Samford, and McNeese all look like potential first weekend darlings.
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Are there any mid majors that jump out as having a chance to win a game or two in the tournament. I would honestly rather see them get a shot than a team like Steon Hall or Butler get a 9/10 seed and bounced right away.
grand canyon, san diego state, colorado state, new mexico are dangerous. is memphis considered a mid major?
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grand canyon, san diego state, colorado state, new mexico are dangerous. is memphis considered a mid major?
Memphis is more of a mid-major than SDSU.
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grand canyon, san diego state, colorado state, new mexico are dangerous. is memphis considered a mid major?
Memphis is cooked. They have not been the same team in 6 weeks.
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Memphis is cooked. They have not been the same team in 6 weeks.
Alternately, maybe they were never that good in the first place. Their wins over Mizzou, Michigan, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Clemson and Virginia don't look nearly as good now as they did in December. Four of those were ranked wins when they happened, none are ranked now. The first three aren't even in NCAA contention. Maybe just a case of a team getting overrated before they were truly tested.
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UNC losing by 9 at the half at home to Clemson
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UNC losing by 9 at the half at home to Clemson
Will be stunned if Clemson holds on
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Texas on the miami scoring pace
So much for them being Q1 if they dont pick it up quickly
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Texas on the miami scoring pace
So much for them being Q1 if they dont pick it up quickly
Sweet Jesus.
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Really good unc Clemson game. High level
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PJ Hall needs to get his ass in the paint. He keeps jacking up jumpers
Bacot has 4 fouls
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Home cookin for UNC.....classic
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Home cookin for UNC.....classic
Brutal call. Not sure how the ref missed the slap on his arm. No one around those two players. Clear view and just blew it
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Home cookin for UNC.....classic
UNC will stay in the T-5 regardless. Their 1pt loss vs the Rambiling Wreck looks much better tonight.
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Another great call there.
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Haha another call.
Unreal
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C'mon Clemson.
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Scheifflin for Clemson is an animal
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Focus!!!
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Slam the door!!!!
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NC has made 3 free throws in last 4 minutes, that's their whole scoring!
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What a waste of time to look at this replay.
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HAHAHA!!!!!
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No one beats Clemson on their home floor 61/62 times! :)
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Beat the Johnnies and we are top 5
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Setting up for a Saturday College Gameday top 5 matchup in Storrs vs the reigning champs. Doesn’t get much bigger that that in February
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Setting up for a Saturday College Gameday top 5 matchup in Storrs vs the reigning champs. Doesn’t get much bigger that that in February
Agreed. Will be fun. Hope MUs defense suffocates them. And they hit a couple threes.
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Setting up for a Saturday College Gameday top 5 matchup in Storrs vs the reigning champs. Doesn’t get much bigger that that in February
Would Game Day go to a Fox game?
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Would Game Day go to a Fox game?
No. But Fox should have an hour pre-game with the right group of people.
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Got a couple games to get through.
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Got a couple games to get through.
Just one. There won't be time for polls to adjust if we drop a game at Butler, so we would (for the time being) still be top 5 even with a loss.
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Just one. There won't be time for polls to adjust if we drop a game at Butler, so we would (for the time being) still be top 5 even with a loss.
Of course. But that a loss a couple days ahead of the matchup, which would basically wrap up the BE regular season title for UCONN already (assuming they don't lose to Georgetown or DePaul ahead of our game), would take quite a bit of the energy out of that game, regardless of ranking.
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https://nypost.com/2024/02/07/sports/houstons-kelvin-sampson-storms-court-screams-in-referees-faces/
I did not see the game, but I might have done the same thing if one of my players were in danger of getting hurt.
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Just one. There won't be time for polls to adjust if we drop a game at Butler, so we would (for the time being) still be top 5 even with a loss.
It is a trap game, expect a loss
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I think of their 9 big 10 losses michigan has lead at half in like 7 of them so we know how this will end
But michigan currently up 31-22 on Bucky
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I think of their 9 big 10 losses michigan has lead at half in like 7 of them so we know how this will end
But michigan currently up 31-22 on Bucky
They might be the worst second half team in college basketball
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I think of their 9 big 10 losses michigan has lead at half in like 7 of them so we know how this will end
But michigan currently up 31-22 on Bucky
I wouldn’t get my hopes up for a Badger loss.
Michigan is statistically, literally, the worst second half team in college basketball.
Using win probability they are a negative 5.35 games in the second half.
In their 11 Big 10 games they are + 27 in the first half and minus 113 in the second.
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So, Auburn, huh
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I wouldn’t get my hopes up for a Badger loss.
Michigan is statistically, literally, the worst second half team in college basketball.
Using win probability they are a negative 5.35 games in the second half.
In their 11 Big 10 games they are + 27 in the first half and minus 113 in the second.
I mean the post you quoted acknowledged all of that
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Crowl picks up his 4th with 11:23 to go. Uncharacteristic.
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Michigan up 6 at the under 8
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Bucky in danger of losing 3 in a row. But I think they’ll pull it out.
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I mean the post you quoted acknowledged all of that
That post said “might be” and I was providing additional data.
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Michgian is so bad. They are trying to give this one away
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THANKS TO MICHIGAN!!!!!! :)
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NLW on suicide watch!!
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Damn shame
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THANKS TO MICHIGAN!!!!!! :)
1 seed talk was just total nonsense.
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Lets goooo
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Gard with another February Fade.
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Poor Bucky. 😜
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Free NLW. Let him take his lumps like a man.
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1 seed talk was just total nonsense.
Michigan is a TERRIBLE basketball team. They have been awful for most of the year. That should be -2 seed line loss at minimum. :)
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Michigan is a TERRIBLE basketball team. They have been awful for most of the year. That should be -2 seed line loss at minimum. :)
Just a Q2 loss in terms of the resume
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Just a Q2 loss in terms of the resume
Fk them PG. Drop them to a 5 immediately. :)
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Nice win for Michigan!
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Nice win for Michigan!
Madison always finds a way to get it done.
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Nice win for Michigan!
Are Michigan fans happy or sad about the outcome?
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Poor Bucky. 😜
🍻 I’ll toast to that!
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Madison always finds a way to get it done.
Not always. But certainly a lot of the time. Regardless...Nice win for Michigan!
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That clear path to a B1G title, undefeated through early February, and 1 seed in the NCAA Tourney sure got blurry quick.
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That clear path to a B1G title, undefeated through early February, and 1 seed in the NCAA Tourney sure got blurry quick.
Great point ww. Remind me who spewed that bulllllshhhhitte?
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Are Michigan fans happy or sad about the outcome?
I think indifferent would describe it.
The incompetent AD won’t fire Howard, and even if he does he would screw up hiring a replacement.
Michigan is woefully behind on NIL. With Harbaugh leaving for the Chargers (taking several assistants with him) and dozens of their key players from the championship team moving on, the football program will be the next casualty. They won’t match the six figure salaries the Alabamas and Ohio States are throwing around.
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I think indifferent would describe it.
The incompetent AD won’t fire Howard, and even if he does he would screw up hiring a replacement.
Michigan is woefully behind on NIL. With Harbaugh leaving for the Chargers (taking several assistants with him) and dozens of their key players from the championship team moving on, the football program will be the next casualty. They won’t match the six figure salaries the Alabamas and Ohio States are throwing around.
Their AD seems to be doing fine at the only sport that matters there.
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I think indifferent would describe it.
The incompetent AD won’t fire Howard, and even if he does he would screw up hiring a replacement.
Michigan is woefully behind on NIL. With Harbaugh leaving for the Chargers (taking several assistants with him) and dozens of their key players from the championship team moving on, the football program will be the next casualty. They won’t match the six figure salaries the Alabamas and Ohio States are throwing around.
Congrats Blue.
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Their AD seems to be doing fine at the only sport that matters there.
That was Harbaugh’s doing.
The AD was largely responsible for Beilein’s departure and his lack of support for Harbaugh with some of the frivolous NCAA issues made his decision to return to the NFL a lot easier.
Note the difference in how places like Kansas and Tennessee respond to NCAA allegations that are a lot more serious than being in contact with some recruits during the COVID dead period.
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Congrats Blue.
I do not deserve congratulations for things I have nothing to do with.
But the football championship was a lot of fun.
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That was Harbaugh’s doing.
The AD was largely responsible for Beilein’s departure and his lack of support for Harbaugh with some of the frivolous NCAA issues made his decision to return to the NFL a lot easier.
Note the difference in how places like Kansas and Tennessee respond to NCAA allegations that are a lot more serious than being in contact with some recruits during the COVID dead period.
Who kept Harbaugh around when the football program wasn’t producing the results the fanbase wanted?
My BIL’s best family friend is Ward. He hasn’t provided details, but he said before the Stallions thing ever took off that Harbaugh was getting out before the NCAA came calling. He said for many months that this was the year to do it, because Harbaugh was out after this year.
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Who kept Harbaugh around when the football program wasn’t producing the results the fanbase wanted?
My BIL’s best family friend is Ward. He hasn’t provided details, but he said before the Stallions thing ever took off that Harbaugh was getting out before the NCAA came calling. He said for many months that this was the year to do it, because Harbaugh was out after this year.
Warde had the opportunity to help keep some of the people that helped turn the program around, the strength coach for example, but let him walk. Same with DL coach.
He screwed up the hockey program with the fiasco last year with the coach and investigation.
And Blue is correct, they’re WAY behind compared to other similar programs with regard to NIL.
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Path to MU playing in Indy in the round of 64 just got a little wider…
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Who kept Harbaugh around when the football program wasn’t producing the results the fanbase wanted?
My BIL’s best family friend is Ward. He hasn’t provided details, but he said before the Stallions thing ever took off that Harbaugh was getting out before the NCAA came calling. He said for many months that this was the year to do it, because Harbaugh was out after this year.
I don’t give Manuel credit for NOT firing Harbaugh when he didn’t immediately surpass Ohio State after the disastrous Rodriguez/Hoke era. He didn’t exactly create good feelings when he slashed Harbaugh’s pay after the COVID year.
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Madison always finds a way to get it done.
Gard owns Shaka
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UCLA continuing their slow climb out of the depths of hell to potentially be a Q2 win for us.
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Nebraska loses to Northwestern to stay winless on the road in conference play.
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#ClearPath
Juwan a nugget?
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3434 …
Yes. I think spot No 2 in INDY may come down to us or UW. The more they lose the better
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Gard owns Shaka
But February (and March) own Gard!
UCLA continuing their slow climb out of the depths of hell to potentially be a Q2 win for us.
It took UCLA a long time to recover from the way they lost to MU.
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Real good article in The Athletic about Gonzaga.
https://theathletic.com/5256331/2024/02/08/gonzaga-basketball-ncaa-tournament-2024-mark-few/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail&userId=3738391
Items of note:
Few lamented that today's Gonzaga student body is spoiled by his program's quarter-century of success. He had to record a video begging them not to throw things on the court in frustration.
Few talking openly about Gonzaga looking to go to another conference. No specific league was mentioned.
Discussion about a former 5-star recruit (Hunter Sallis) transferring to Wake Forest, where he has become a standout. That kind of thing just never happened to Few's program.
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3434 …
Yes. I think spot No 2 in INDY may come down to us or UW. The more they lose the better
The more they (the Badgers) lose the better is always true.
Looking at teams currently around the top 15-20, the other main challenger for that second spot in Indy seems to be Illinois. Like MU, they have several potential Quad 1 games remaining and the results of those games, plus the conference tournaments, could decide who is seeded higher.
Dayton would also have Indy as its preferred spot, but their schedule doesn't provide opportunities for Quad 1 wins to make a big move up.
MU has the inside track today, but the opportunities are there for Illinois and/or Wisconsin to bypass them.
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Real good article in The Athletic about Gonzaga.
https://theathletic.com/5256331/2024/02/08/gonzaga-basketball-ncaa-tournament-2024-mark-few/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail&userId=3738391
Items of note:
Few lamented that today's Gonzaga student body is spoiled by his program's quarter-century of success. He had to record a video begging them not to throw things on the court in frustration.
Few talking openly about Gonzaga looking to go to another conference. No specific league was mentioned.
Discussion about a former 5-star recruit (Hunter Sallis) transferring to Wake Forest, where he has become a standout. That kind of thing just never happened to Few's program.
Few messed it up with Sallis, only using him occasionally last year. That doesn’t sit well with 5 star recruits in today’s portal and NIL world.
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The more they (the Badgers) lose the better is always true.
Looking at teams currently around the top 15-20, the other main challenger for that second spot in Indy seems to be Illinois. Like MU, they have several potential Quad 1 games remaining and the results of those games, plus the conference tournaments, could decide who is seeded higher.
Dayton would also have Indy as its preferred spot, but their schedule doesn't provide opportunities for Quad 1 wins to make a big move up.
MU has the inside track today, but the opportunities are there for Illinois and/or Wisconsin to bypass them.
I know it's a body-of-work thing, but it would be pretty sucky if the teams are close to each other in most metrics and Illinois - which we beat on their home court - somehow got a more favorable seed/placement.
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In 2003 they were both in Indy, different pods of course. Went down to see both play, as I have degrees from both, and how often would I have that chance? The Illini lost to I believe Notre Dame (ugh) and for awhile I was fearful that I was going to have made the trip down there only to see both my teams lose, but luckily we came through in the end. I was wearing my Illini shirt over my MU shirt for the first game, with my MU hat on, so I had orange with a bit of gold peeking out until the first game ended.
It would be nice to be in Indy, but we at this point need to take care of things on our end.
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In 2003 they were both in Indy, different pods of course. Went down to see both play, as I have degrees from both, and how often would I have that chance? The Illini lost to I believe Notre Dame (ugh) and for awhile I was fearful that I was going to have made the trip down there only to see both my teams lose, but luckily we came through in the end. I was wearing my Illini shirt over my MU shirt for the first game, with my MU hat on, so I had orange with a bit of gold peeking out until the first game ended.
It would be nice to be in Indy, but we at this point need to take care of things on our end.
Two exciting MU games in Indy. Diener totally bailed out MU vs Holy Cross ... making WADE! possible in later rounds. At one point, I was in such disbelief that we were losing to Holy Cross that I had to get up from my seat and go out into the corridor so my head didn't explode. Then came the Mizzou game, which was an unbelievably thrilling OT game in which the world got to meet Steve Novak.
Notre Dame barely beat UWM in their first game but then, as you said, defeated Illinois in the second round before getting crushed by Arizona in the Sweet 16 round.
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Had Arizona -5.5 in that one. What a wild ride and lucky cover
Edit: not a response to the previous post. Was referring to AZ’s triple OT game at Utah that just ended, which they led by 16 at half. Awesome game
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Had Arizona -5.5 in that one. What a wild ride and lucky cover
Edit: not a response to the previous post. Was referring to AZ’s triple OT game at Utah that just ended, which they led by 16 at half. Awesome game
I wish that Utah won that game, as I want a cushion between us and Zona in the AP rankings just in case we do not run the table the rest of the season. Never should have gone into OT, but Utah made only 40% of their FTs vs, Zona's 88% in regulation.
Nice OT win by UAB over FAU.
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Dayton vs VCU is horrendous basketball
People like Fanta love to hype Dayton. Wed blitz this team. Ive watched them many times this year. Holmes is good but he isnt enough.
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Dayton vs VCU is horrendous basketball
People like Fanta love to hype Dayton. Wed blitz this team. Ive watched them many times this year. Holmes is good but he isnt enough.
I tuned into the final ten minutes and it was unwatchable basketball
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SDSU @ Nevada is another really fun bball game. Marquette would seem to have to play very poorly to lose either of these teams
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I'm not sure what to make of the MWC. I think they could get 5 teams but should they?
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I tuned into the final ten minutes and it was unwatchable basketball
Yeah some might look at the score and assume good D
It was mostly just horrendous play. Guys running out of bounds. Missing front ends. Throw ball directly the defender. Traveling.
Was not fun.
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I'm not sure what to make of the MWC. I think they could get 5 teams but should they?
If the tourney started today, they'd get 6 in. This is just what happens when leagues like the ACC and Pac-12 fall on hard times. Someone has to get those bids to fill out 68 teams, and the Mountain West has done a good job of having a clear line between the top and bottom of the league. There are 6 top teams and 5 bottom teams. As long as the top teams share wins and beat the bottom, they'll be fine. That's the problem the Big East has had. You have what's been a pretty clear three at the top, then teams 4-9 are pretty hard to distinguish. If a couple of those bottomed out, it would likely clear up the picture and you could end up with 7-8 bids in the Big East, but the muddier it gets between St. John's, Butler, Villanova, Seton Hall, Providence, and Xavier, the more likely it is they all end up near the cut line and more teams get left out.
The Mountain West top-6 are a combined 24-4 against the bottom 5. 3 of the 4 losses came on the road, so they don't hurt you as much. Two were to UNLV, who is a decent team that might be a good conference tourney dark horse (wins over Creighton, New Mexico, Boise this year). If you start to see teams like Wyoming, Fresno, Air Force, or San Diego State start reeling off wins over the top-6, then they'll lose bids. But as long as they take care of business, the league is in good shape for 5-6 bids.
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Just looking at the spreads for todays games for teams close to Marquette for seeding purposes. Few games have some very questionable lines.
UNC - 3.5 @ Miami
Tennessee -1.5 @ A&M
Arizona +1.5 @ Colorado
Could be some possible upset of top 8 teams here.
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If the tourney started today, they'd get 6 in. This is just what happens when leagues like the ACC and Pac-12 fall on hard times. Someone has to get those bids to fill out 68 teams, and the Mountain West has done a good job of having a clear line between the top and bottom of the league. There are 6 top teams and 5 bottom teams. As long as the top teams share wins and beat the bottom, they'll be fine. That's the problem the Big East has had. You have what's been a pretty clear three at the top, then teams 4-9 are pretty hard to distinguish. If a couple of those bottomed out, it would likely clear up the picture and you could end up with 7-8 bids in the Big East, but the muddier it gets between St. John's, Butler, Villanova, Seton Hall, Providence, and Xavier, the more likely it is they all end up near the cut line and more teams get left out.
The Mountain West top-6 are a combined 24-4 against the bottom 5. 3 of the 4 losses came on the road, so they don't hurt you as much. Two were to UNLV, who is a decent team that might be a good conference tourney dark horse (wins over Creighton, New Mexico, Boise this year). If you start to see teams like Wyoming, Fresno, Air Force, or San Diego State start reeling off wins over the top-6, then they'll lose bids. But as long as they take care of business, the league is in good shape for 5-6 bids.
Doing the national runners up dirty
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Just looking at the spreads for todays games for teams close to Marquette for seeding purposes. Few games have some very questionable lines.
UNC - 3.5 @ Miami
Tennessee -1.5 @ A&M
Arizona +1.5 @ Colorado
Could be some possible upset of top 8 teams here.
Strongly dislike MSU, but we could use another Illinois loss. Would love to get Indianapolis, but Selection Committee loves giving BigTen teams favorable locations so it’s still an uphill battle to overcome that.
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Doing the national runners up dirty
I saw that and assumed he meant San Jose State.
I always get my saints mixed up.
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Doing the national runners up dirty
They never belonged there...if Tyler doesn't hurt his hand that's us and I'll never forgive them for that.
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Strongly dislike MSU, but we could use another Illinois loss. Would love to get Indianapolis, but Selection Committee loves giving BigTen teams favorable locations so it’s still an uphill battle to overcome that.
The committee uses software to make the bracket. When Marquette comes up for site placement, the software will tell them the closest available site.
As long as Marquette is higher on the S-Curve, nothing to worry about.
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Rutgers currently keeping Wiconsin's streak alive.
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Rutgers currently keeping Wiconsin's streak alive.
Wish Shaka could recruit studs like Gilmore, Ilver, and Lindsey.
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Maybe it's me but Chucky fouls a lot on the perimeter. Hopefully Rutgers finds a way to win this game. :)
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What a garbage call on that Rutgers kid as Wahl tumbles across the floor.
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Beating Marquette basically Wisconsin's entire tourney resumé for the 2nd year in a row.
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At half, UW-Madison has 3 assists and 10 turnovers.
Of their 27 shots, AJ Storr has 12 and is 0-4 from 3.
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That path to Indy is getting more boulder strewn and foggy.
#bringbacknlw
Let him face the blowback like an adult.
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I didn't know Tomy Soprano went to Rutgers.
Hopefully they hold on. I'm not sure I trust them.
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They will be fine. Wisconsin is currently in a lull. Most teams have them from time to time. When, oh, say, MU is in a rough patch, the fans typically respond with patience, helpful ideas, and support. I am sure badger fans are equally uplifting at the moment.
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They will be fine. Wisconsin is currently in a lull. Most teams have them from time to time. When, oh, say, MU is in a rough patch, the fans typically respond with patience, helpful ideas, and support. I am sure badger fans are equally uplifting at the moment.
I certainly hope you're correct Tower.
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Gard’s team just wants it less!
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They’re hardly even visible in our rear view mirror anymore. Whether they come back or not doesn’t worry me one bit.
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Badgers still flop all over the place.
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Concerned Rutgers is gonna fk this up.
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Although that helps. :)
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Gard needs to tell Sucky Hepburn that he’s not James Harden.
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I'm a fan of Mawot Mag.
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Gard needs to tell Sucky Hepburn that he’s not James Harden.
I think he doesnt
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So much for Wisky having a clear path to the B18 title.
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Bucky on the Wojo swoon??
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Satisfying to watch Wisconsin go through their slump at this point in the season.
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Satisfying to watch Wisconsin go through their slump at this point in the season.
They benefited from a very soft schedule and a win against us.
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Bucky on the Wojo swoon??
Nope … for the second straight year it’s the GGFF.
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Satisfying to watch Wisconsin go through their slump at this point in the season.
Nm
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Is Bucky still at in line for a 1 or 2 seed? 👀🙄
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They benefited from a very soft schedule and a win against us.
So Mich and Rutgers weren't part of their soft schedule?
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So Mich and Rutgers weren't part of their soft schedule?
Awful week. Couldn’t happen to a nicer fanbase.
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Rutgers is 3-0 with Williams in their back court.
Will be interesting to see how they finish
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Awful week. Couldn’t happen to a nicer fanbase.
cannot believe Shaka can’t beat Gard. R U Serious??!!!!!!
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Is Bucky still at in line for a 1 or 2 seed? 👀🙄
NIT maybe. Obviously they aren't in danger of missing the tourney yet, but they are racking up some very bad losses.
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Awful week. Couldn’t happen to a nicer fanbase.
3 of their next 4 are unfortunately against sht teams and Maryland isn't exactly a juggernaut.
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NIT maybe. Obviously they aren't in danger of missing the tourney yet, but they are racking up some very bad losses.
Walmart Badgers gone quiet. Life around these parts is good these days.
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3 of their next 4 are unfortunately against sht teams and Maryland isn't exactly a juggernaut.
Thats life in the big 10 most of the teams are trash
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It will be interesting to see if Izzo hangs it up after this year. Lots of rumblings it may happen.
Marquette is the only other school Tre Holloman took an official visit to, our staff loved him and we could use a veteran backup PG option for the next couple of years...
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It will be interesting to see if Izzo hangs it up after this year. Lots of rumbilings it may happen.
Marquette is the only other school Tre Holloman took an official visit to, our staff loved him and we could use a veteran backup PG option for the next couple of years...
Good call. Exactly the type of player I think we’d be able to get in the portal.
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Good call. Exactly the type of player I think we’d be able to get in the portal.
I may be wrong but I thought Holloman was our top PG priority that class too and then moved onto Sean Jones after Holloman committed to Mich St.
If we bring in a transfer I can see Shaka going after someone like this who the staff already has a relationship with.
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NIT maybe. Obviously they aren't in danger of missing the tourney yet, but they are racking up some very bad losses.
Honest question. If the Badgers didn’t beat MU, do they have a tournament resume as of today? I don’t see it personally, but I don’t research as much as some on this board.
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Honest question. If the Badgers didn’t beat MU, do they have a tournament resume as of today? I don’t see it personally, but I don’t research as much as some on this board.
I'm not sure CR.....they did beat Chicago St.
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Interesting slate today. Possible we could gain in the whatareweranked thread. Of course we have to win win win
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Honest question. If the Badgers didn’t beat MU, do they have a tournament resume as of today? I don’t see it personally, but I don’t research as much as some on this board.
Others study it much more than I do. I think they would. You don't get above a 4 seed just on one win. I think up until their skid, they racked up enough wins to justify a spot without the MU win.
I think if this keeps up, that win will be doing a lot of heavy lifting as they get compared against other bubble teams. It didn't save them last year.
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There is no way I could be an Illinois fan and watch coleman hawkins every game
His whining every single game every single call or no call is pathetic. He just sat and slammed the floor like a baby as MSU ran down and hit a transition 3 to cut the lead to 3.
Its every single play with this guy
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Will Mich St. storm the floor if they win this game?
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There is no way I could be an Illinois fan and watch coleman hawkins every game
His whining every single game every single call or no call is pathetic. He just sat and slammed the floor like a baby as MSU ran down and hit a transition 3 to cut the lead to 3.
Its every single play with this guy
Won't disagree but Im watching the same game and wish Oso had as confident stroke from 3 as that guy.. but yeah, Hawkins needs Oso's paint game.
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Honest question. If the Badgers didn’t beat MU, do they have a tournament resume as of today? I don’t see it personally, but I don’t research as much as some on this board.
Yes, and it wouldn’t be close. They have 5 other Quad 1 wins and a very strong SOS and metrics.
The resumes of teams that are near the bubble are typically pretty weak.
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Total meltdown from Illinois.
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Texas helping their metrics today.
Too bad they keep choking big games at home or theyd be Q1
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Kentucky might be the worst defensive team in all of basketball
Gonzaga has 42 on them at half and they are 3/14 from 3 with like 7 wide open misses
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Kentucky might be the worst defensive team in all of basketball
Gonzaga has 42 on them at half and they are 3/14 from 3 with like 7 wide open misses
They play defense like people who don't watch NBA think they play defense in the NBA.
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So much for Wisky having a clear path to the B18 title.
That's a shame
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Kentucky might be the worst defensive team in all of basketball
Gonzaga has 42 on them at half and they are 3/14 from 3 with like 7 wide open misses
Callipari still going with the freshman heavy model and it shows on the defensive end.
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Got a couple games to get through.
Bump.
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Wisky should fall out of the T25.
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Wisky should fall out of the T25.
Would love to get Indy. Bucky and Illinois both took losses today to help the cause.
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Did you just see Buzz walk to half-court??
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Did you just see Buzz walk to half-court??
https://x.com/treywallace_/status/1756517028431557115?s=46
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https://x.com/treywallace_/status/1756517028431557115?s=46
He got a warning. LOL.
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Awful officiating in the New Mexico/UNLV game. Rebels are getting hosed.
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This Tenn loss is just a continuation of a really great night for Marquette right? Let’s just one up the few teams ahead of us on the S curve 1 at a time. I’m a simpleton and consider our team superior to Tenn just because of Maui, but that tournament was so awesome a lot of great teams didn’t even get to see each other
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Good to see some of the old Buzz quirkiness back.
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This Tenn loss is just a continuation of a really great night for Marquette right? Let’s just one up the few teams ahead of us on the S curve 1 at a time. I’m a simpleton and consider our team superior to Tenn just because of Maui, but that tournament was so awesome a lot of great teams didn’t even get to see each other
I believe MU should be #4 Monday. Fk Kansas.
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Then use your vote wisely.
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Then use your vote wisely.
Tower, we essentially destroyed them head to head. Maybe I'm biased but I think we have a strong case.
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This Tenn loss is just a continuation of a really great night for Marquette right? Let’s just one up the few teams ahead of us on the S curve 1 at a time. I’m a simpleton and consider our team superior to Tenn just because of Maui, but that tournament was so awesome a lot of great teams didn’t even get to see each other
We also want Colorado to beat Zona.
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Tower, we essentially destroyed them head to head. Maybe I'm biased but I think we have a strong case.
Text or email as many voters as you can to make the case.
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Buzz helping MU’s Cause tonight
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Does anyone know where we are on the
S-Curve?
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Does anyone know where we are on the
S-Curve?
We should know in a week from today.
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We should know in a week from today.
Oh....cool. Ty.
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Does anyone know where we are on the
S-Curve?
Somewhere between 4-8. Marquette, Tennessee, Arizona, North Carolina, and Kansas are essentially equal.
If I had to guess the current order, it would be:
4. Arizona
5. Kansas
6. Marquette
7. North Carolina
8. Tennessee
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Somewhere between 4-8. Marquette, Tennessee, Arizona, North Carolina, and Kansas are essentially equal.
If I had to guess the current order, it would be:
4. Arizona
5. Kansas
6. Marquette
7. North Carolina
8. Tennessee
Is Bracket Matrix used by anyone? I was just curious. Ty. We're 7th right now.
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Is Bracket Matrix used by anyone? I was just curious. Ty. We're 7th right now.
Bracket Matrix is a good tool to use to get "the wisdom of the masses". But it lags. The current version incorporates brackets as old as 2/4. A lot has happened since 2/4. For example, Wisconsin is still listed as the top 3 seed despite their huge skid. This is at least partially due to several brackets from 2/4 and and 2/5 having them as a 2 seed. Take those away and Bucky falls
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Caitlin Clark should return to Iowa next year. She'll probably make 10-15 mill.
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Caitlin Clark should return to Iowa next year. She'll probably make 10-15 mill.
"Traditional" bigs and super star women both worth way more in CBB. She's so "fortunate" to be doing this in today's NIL world...obviously well deserved.
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"Traditional" bigs and super star women both worth way more in CBB. She's so "fortunate" to be doing this in today's NIL world...obviously well deserved.
She's incredibly skilled and a lot of fun to watch. I think she'll pump some juice into the WNBA but not like she would if she came back for another year.
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Is Bracket Matrix used by anyone? I was just curious. Ty. We're 7th right now.
I look at the Bracket Matrix but, in addition to the time lag issue mentioned by TAMU, it’s hard to distinguish entries from people who are good at it from those who might just be copying Lunardi or someone else and tinkering with it to put in their own opinions instead of trying to predict what the Selection Committee will do.
I look more at sites like Bracketville and the brackets posted by Brewcity77 on the Paint Touches site. They both include seed lists, not just seeds or a bracket.
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I look at the Bracket Matrix but, in addition to the time lag issue mentioned by TAMU, it’s hard to distinguish entries from people who are food at it from those who might just be copying Lunardi or someone else and tinkering with it to put in their own opinions instead of trying to predict what the Selection Committee will do.
I look more at sites like Bracketville and the brackets posted by Brewcity77 on the Paint Touches site. They both include seed lists, not just seeds or a bracket.
Bracketvlle has been very good the last couple years and it’s updated daily. And, Brew does well too.
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Bracket Matrix is great when you get to the end of the season. The problem is it always has too much old data in there. The way wins and losses impact the bracket, anything more than 2-3 days old is outdated, and that's usually about half the matrix.
This time of year, it's best to give you an idea of who should be on the radar. If you're looking for brackets to really hone in on, I'd say Bauertology, Bracketometry, T3, 801, and Graham Doeren are all really worth following. Delphi Brackets is another good one. And I agree on Bracketville, Dave Ommen does a great job.
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Wake needs to wake up. Make Muggsy proud.
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Kansas going to be in a dogfight at Texas Tech without McCullar
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Kansas going to be in a dogfight at Texas Tech without McCullar
Kansas is getting whooped.
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Kansas is a very ordinary team on the road.
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Kansas is a very ordinary team on the road.
Most teams are when their best player isn’t playing.
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Anything can happen in the B12 the next 3 weeks.
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Kansas going to be in a dogfight at Texas Tech without McCullar
I see their roster experienced McCullar degeneration.
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Bravo
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Andy Katz posted his top 10 match ups of the week
We got #1 and #5
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From Yahoo Sports:
No. 23 Indiana State is ranked for the first time since 1979, when Larry Bird led the top-ranked Sycamores from Terre Haute, Indiana, all the way to the national championship game, where they lost to Magic Johnson and Michigan State.
45 years later, Indiana State is back on the national stage, led by guard Isaiah Swope (17.7 ppg) and goggle-wearing big man Robbie Avila (aka, "The College Jokić").
The Sycamores rank fifth nationally in scoring (85.6 ppg), ninth in 3-point percentage (39%) and No. 1 in adjusted field goal percentage, per KenPom.
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Most teams are when their best player isn’t playing.
Even when healthy, they are very ordinary on the road. And McCullers doesn’t change the outcome of last nite’s beatdown.
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UNC down 7 to Syracuse with 3 mins left
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Indiana State 7-37 from 3 and down 13 late to a bad Illinois State team at home
Illinois State is 220 in KenPom. Sycamores were 18-point KenPom favorites. Goodbye, top-25
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Indiana State 7-37 from 3 and down 13 late to a bad Illinois State team at home
Illinois State is 220 in KenPom. Sycamores were 18-point KenPom favorites. Goodbye, top-25
Ranked for the first time since Bird.
Immediately lose that ranking while also taking a blow torch to their at large resume. Q4 loss. Donezo
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Ranked for the first time since Bird.
Immediately lose that ranking while also taking a blow torch to their at large resume. Q4 loss. Donezo
Even if no auto-bid, rather they make it than some crappy 6th place Big East team or crappy 8th place Big 14 team
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Syracuse about to take out UNC.
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Vandy beats A&M at the buzzer
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Even if no auto-bid, rather they make it than some crappy 6th place Big East team or crappy 8th place Big 14 team
Testify.
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Michigan was down at one point by almost 40, then lose by 29. Howard has to be in big trouble.
And it's Michigan-Michigan State on the Fox Primetime Game Saturday night. Not a Number one, Number 4 showdown.
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Michigan was down at one point by almost 40, then lose by 29. Howard has to be in big trouble.
And it's Michigan-Michigan State on the Fox Primetime Game Saturday night. Not a Number one, Number 4 showdown.
tbh I think 2 pm is a way better Saturday game time anyways. So F em
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Syracuse fans rush the court. Didn't think I'd see 'Cuse fans do that after beating the #7 team in my life time. Times have changed.
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Michigan was down at one point by almost 40, then lose by 29. Howard has to be in big trouble.
And it's Michigan-Michigan State on the Fox Primetime Game Saturday night. Not a Number one, Number 4 showdown.
Michigan is a terrible basketball team.
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Syracuse fans rush the court. Didn't think I'd see 'Cuse fans do that after beating the #7 team in my life time. Times have changed.
Lame.
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Michigan was down at one point by almost 40, then lose by 29. Howard has to be in big trouble.
I understand from some of my Michigan friends that they have the Patrick Ewing issue - it's going to be hella awkward to fire a legend.
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I understand from some of my Michigan friends that they have the Patrick Ewing issue - it's going to be hella awkward to fire a legend.
He’s not that big a legend
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Syracuse fans rush the court. Didn't think I'd see 'Cuse fans do that after beating the #7 team in my life time. Times have changed.
Storming the court after beating #7 as a power conference team is sad. Have some dignity.
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Storming the court after beating #7 as a power conference team is sad. Have some dignity.
Kinda like the Badgers when they beat MU this season.
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Badgers looking to get that Indy spot back
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Badgers looking to get that Indy spot back
Ohio St. = abomination.
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Badgers looking to get that Indy spot back
Underestimate Gard at your own risk. 👀
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At some point Pete Gillen needs to be dismissed. And by some point I mean tomorrow.
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Colarado State got beat 41-11 in the second half to SDSU today.
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At some point Pete Gillen needs to be dismissed. And by some point I mean tomorrow.
I agree with this analysis. He's said "it's a big country" about 3 times already. I can't stand how he goes "woah!" And talks over the color guy every single time a decent play is made.
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Holtmann out at Ohio State
Could see him take DePaul if he wants to coach
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Holtmann out at Ohio State
Could see him take DePaul if he wants to coach
Trade him to Creighton for Mr Candie.
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Holtmann out at Ohio State
Could see him take DePaul if he wants to coach
I could see that but I still think Peevy wants to shock the world with this hire
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Holtmann out at Ohio State
Could see him take DePaul if he wants to coach
I thought that was a perfect fit when he left Butler, and for awhile it looked like it was, but the bottom really fell out fast.
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Holtmann out at Ohio State
Could see him take DePaul if he wants to coach
McDermott is a name Trilly has thrown around. Wonder if Sean Miller will put his name in the ring
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I thought that was a perfect fit when he left Butler, and for awhile it looked like it was, but the bottom really fell out fast.
My question was if he could recruit B10 talent. He can't.
And if DePaul is looking at BIG retreads, John Groce would be a better choice.
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McDermott is a name Trilly has thrown around. Wonder if Sean Miller will put his name in the ring
I'm not sure I would be all that interested in McD if I were OSU, but apparently he's getting restless.
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I'm not sure I would be all that interested in McD if I were OSU, but apparently he's getting restless.
Agreed. His name has been thrown around with too many jobs over the past few seasons for me to think he's sticking around Omaha much longer.
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My question was if he could recruit B10 talent. He can't.
And if DePaul is looking at BIG retreads, John Groce would be a better choice.
Why do you think Groce is a better choice than Holtmann?
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Agreed. His name has been thrown around with too many jobs over the past few seasons for me to think he's sticking around Omaha much longer.
Maybe he's waiting for an opening in the South. There are some beautiful plantations just up the road from where we live.
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Why do you think Groce is a better choice than Holtmann?
He can recruit. Knows Illinois. Was Matta's key recruiter at Ohio State.
Holtmann was never a high major recruiter as an assistant. And flamed out as a B1G head coach when he was on the clock.
Now is he a top prospect at DU? No but he would be the better retread.
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The Athletic with an article about the parity in college basketball.
https://theathletic.com/5270083/2024/02/13/college-basketball-upsets-parity-ncaa-tournament-2024-recruits/?source=pulsenewsletter&campaign=8999336&userId=3738391
A few passages (including two with MU mentions) that I found particularly interesting:
Already, 47 different teams have appeared in the AP poll, with over a month until Selection Sunday. And perhaps most notably, top-10 teams are just 32-33 on the road against unranked foes, easily the worst win percentage in those scenarios in the modern era. (That dates back to the 1984-85 season, when the NCAA Tournament expanded to 64 teams.) Marquette, Arizona and Kansas — the No. 4, 5, and 6 teams in this week’s poll — have lost three such games each. And after last weekend, when Illinois and Tennessee became the latest top-10 teams to join the trend, those 33 losses already stand as the most ever in a season in those situations.
And ...
Not long ago, teams like Kentucky and Duke were dominating with star one-and-done freshmen. But that’s not happening as often anymore.
Last season, for the first time since 1998, no Final Four team started a single true freshman. (Connecticut’s Alex Karaban, a redshirt freshman, was the closest thing.) It’s the same trend this season. Seven of KenPom’s top-10 teams on Feb. 1 were amongst the 100 oldest squads in the nation — and Houston, at 102nd, barely missed the cut. Of the 50 starters on those 10 teams, only two are freshmen: Connecticut’s Stephon Castle, and North Carolina’s Elliot Cadeau. (And both guards, in addition to being top-12 recruits, are already 19 years old.) On the flip side, of the 10 youngest high-major teams in America, only Duke — which starts one senior, three sophomores, and one freshman — is expected to make the NCAA Tournament.
And ...
But will that season-long parity extend to March? Those in the college basketball space are split. On one hand, the data speaks for itself. On the other, though, a handful of teams at the top have started to separate themselves. This week marked the fifth straight that Purdue and Connecticut, both 22-2, were ranked first and second in the AP poll. Houston (21-3), despite some offensive question marks, has ranked No. 1 in most computer rankings for months and has put together one of the best adjusted-efficiency margins in recent history. Those three teams will almost certainly be the top three overall seeds when the selection committee reveals its late-season top 16 on Saturday. There’s also a group of very-good-but-perhaps-flawed teams — UNC, Tennessee, Kansas, Arizona, Marquette — right behind them.
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tonight South Carolina v Auburn - keep an eye on this. If SC wins they have a path to a 1. 3-2 Q1 with 6 regular season Q1s that they can win. But lose tonight defuses all that.
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tonight South Carolina v Auburn - keep an eye on this. If SC wins they have a path to a 1. 3-2 Q1 with 6 regular season Q1s that they can win. But lose tonight defuses all that.
South Carolina is not getting a 1
They will need a minor miracle to get a 3
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tonight South Carolina v Auburn - keep an eye on this. If SC wins they have a path to a 1. 3-2 Q1 with 6 regular season Q1s that they can win. But lose tonight defuses all that.
SC down by 22 at the half.
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A lot of empty seats at some of these big ten games the last few days.
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SC down by 22 at the half.
Yeah I was laughing at the “If SC wins out” talk…come on.
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tonight South Carolina v Auburn - keep an eye on this. If SC wins they have a path to a 1. 3-2 Q1 with 6 regular season Q1s that they can win. But lose tonight defuses all that.
And they lose by 40.
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If SC manages to lose the rest of its games by fewer than 40 points each, what seed will it get?
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I agree with this analysis. He's said "it's a big country" about 3 times already. I can't stand how he goes "woah!" And talks over the color guy every single time a decent play is made.
He is the color guy.
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That Arkansas job could open up soon.
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Marquette isn’t visibly flawed. If they are, every team including Purdue is. The physicality of the Big East has these guys prepared for that supposed Achilles heel. Marquette had a short stretch where they got slightly bored and unfocused after a monster opening portion of the schedule. It ended up being the best thing that could’ve happened to these guys.
Listening to these UCONN fans jaw and spew arrogant nonsense as if a repeat championship is a mere formality, I’m officially not tolerating the COLE around here anymore.
It’s time we see this MU team for what it is, and that’s a team fully capable of hoisting the hardware while playing the most exciting brand of basketball 🏀 going right now.
I’m terms of swagger and expectations, we are generally a humble, measured fan base, and 90% of the time that’s a good thing. With obnoxious UCONN on the horizon, however, it’s time to fight fire with fire. We are every bit on a par with them, and I expect us to bury them in their smack talk on Saturday. If on the slim chance we don’t prevail, the upcoming schedule favors nursing a protected seed.
I’m all-in on touting this amazing group from here until Shaka’s birthday. The sky is the goddamn limit for them! I suggest the rest of you come along for the ride.
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Marquette isn’t visibly flawed. If they are, every team including Purdue is. The physicality of the Big East has these guys prepared for that supposed Achilles heel. Marquette had a short stretch where they got slightly bored and unfocused after a monster opening portion of the schedule. It ended up being the best thing that could’ve happened to these guys.
Listening to these UCONN fans jaw and spew arrogant nonsense as if a repeat championship is a mere formality, I’m officially not tolerating the COLE around here anymore.
It’s time we see this MU team for what it is, and that’s a team fully capable of hoisting the hardware while playing the most exciting brand of basketball 🏀 going right now.
I’m terms of swagger and expectations, we are generally a humble, measured fan base, and 90% of the time that’s a good thing. With obnoxious UCONN on the horizon, however, it’s time to fight fire with fire. We are every bit on a par with them, and I expect us to bury them in their smack talk on Saturday. If on the slim chance we don’t prevail, the upcoming schedule favors nursing a protected seed.
I’m all-in on touting this amazing group from here until Shaka’s birthday. The sky is the goddamn limit for them! I suggest the rest of you come along for the ride.
Outstanding post and analysis!!! LFG!!!
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GFAW, I love it! Preach!
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And they lose by 40.
Fools' gold.
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If SC manages to lose the rest of its games by fewer than 40 points each, what seed will it get?
OK,OK everyone's a comedian 😁.
As I mentioned in the other thread, I'm an irrational SC fan from 30 years ago. Like with MU, always hoping they can do something. So any team in a power conference with only 3 losses at this point, (now 4), the fans have got to be feeling it. Yeah 40 after that post, I deserve it 😁😁.
But just like with MU Saturday. I'm feeling a win! Right! Head says no. The road excuse in back pocket. Forget that! Let's beat these MFs!! (to quote an MU player of days gone by).
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OK,OK everyone's a comedian 😁.
As I mentioned in the other thread, I'm an irrational SC fan from 30 years ago. Like with MU, always hoping they can do something. So any team in a power conference with only 3 losses at this point, (now 4), the fans have got to be feeling it. Yeah 40 after that post, I deserve it 😁😁.
But just like with MU Saturday. I'm feeling a win! Right! Head says no. The road excuse in back pocket. Forget that! Let's beat these MFs!! (to quote an MU player of days gone by).
Its easy for everyone to be a monday morning quarterback. The fact is that S.C had the best road win out of any college team to date @Tennessee which many people are picking for the final four. Its not like we were saying Butler has a chance for a 1 seed.
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Congrats to Detroit Mercy on their first win of the year over IUPUI. They’re now 1-26 and 1-15 in conference.
IUPUI is 361st in KenPom and Detroit Mercy is 357. Talk about dragging a league down
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“The fact is that S.C had the best road win out of any college team to date @Tennessee which many people are picking for the final four. Its not like we were saying Butler has a chance for a 1 seed.
Actually, Butler has the best road win of any college team to date! That will change Saturday!
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Congrats to Detroit Mercy on their first win of the year over IUPUI. They’re now 1-26 and 1-15 in conference.
IUPUI is 361st in KenPom and Detroit Mercy is 357. Talk about dragging a league down
(Last post today..got to get to work 😜)
Detroit is another team from days gone by. DM used to be just UD. Dad would take us down to his alma mater to watch Vitale and his crew fight MU and others...the whole place was rocking. So mercy on Detroit Mercy.
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Congrats to Detroit Mercy on their first win of the year over IUPUI. They’re now 1-26 and 1-15 in conference.
IUPUI is 361st in KenPom and Detroit Mercy is 357. Talk about dragging a league down
I'd pay to see a DePaul v. Mercy game
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Congrats to Detroit Mercy on their first win of the year over IUPUI. They’re now 1-26 and 1-15 in conference.
IUPUI is 361st in KenPom and Detroit Mercy is 357. Talk about dragging a league down
I never know what low-major teams are playing since you stopped posting those schedules. Did you get bored with that?
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(Last post today..got to get to work 😜)
Detroit is another team from days gone by. DM used to be just UD. Dad would take us down to his alma mater to watch Vitale and his crew fight MU and others...the whole place was rocking. So mercy on Detroit Mercy.
They are the only school left in the Horizon from the days when Marquette was in the conference. They are a surprisingly poor institution, with an endowment of less than $100 million, and just have never been able to sustain any sort of success on the basketball court.
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I never know what low-major teams are playing since you stopped posting those schedules. Did you get bored with that?
Once conference play began, you didn’t see many non-D1 schools getting games.
However, missing this titanic matchup was my bad
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Congrats to Detroit Mercy on their first win of the year over IUPUI. They’re now 1-26 and 1-15 in conference.
IUPUI is 361st in KenPom and Detroit Mercy is 357. Talk about dragging a league down
Great video here, as a single fan "storms the court" to celebrate!
https://twitter.com/detroitmercymbb/status/1757952053706727797?s=46&t=o_YcooE_NLDk6nCdvDo7Hw&.tsrc=1317
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Its easy for everyone to be a monday morning quarterback. The fact is that S.C had the best road win out of any college team to date @Tennessee which many people are picking for the final four. Its not like we were saying Butler has a chance for a 1 seed.
Nobody was Monday morning quarterbacking. I posted during the day yesterday that they were underdogs in 5 of their 7 games remaining, and 1 of the 2 games they were favored in was by less than 1 point. The idea that SC could go 7-0 and then win 2+ SEC Tournament games was absurd. Someone correctly pointed out that they were far more likely to go 0-7 than 7-0.
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As of today, is Auburn the best team in the nation?
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So a perfect Saturday would be MU beating UC and Texas beating Houston. Texas would surely become Q1, MU would cruise past everyone but Purdue to #2 and we'll be able to enjoy that for a couple weeks at least.
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As of today, is Auburn the best team in the nation?
I think Auburn is really good, and a team I would like MU to avoid. They are LONG and athletic, and they go have good rotation of 8 guys.
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I think Auburn is really good, and a team I would like MU to avoid. They are LONG and athletic, and they go have good rotation of 8 guys.
Unfortunately, they can't play NCAA games at home. Their best win away from home is Ole Miss, who's a bubble team. They haven't beat anyone else who's remotely close to the field.
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Berry is out for the year for Northwestern. That hurts.
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Rutgers 4-0 with Williams
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Minnesota looking like they might give Purdue a game.
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Unfortunately, they can't play NCAA games at home. Their best win away from home is Ole Miss, who's a bubble team. They haven't beat anyone else who's remotely close to the field.
Auburn and Kansas are similar - very tough at home and so-so on the road.
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Minnesota looking like they might give Purdue a game.
Is it International Gopher Day or something? 8pt lead at Purdue??
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s it International Gopher Day or something? 8pt lead at Purdue??
9 3s.
And I told you this gopher team is better than you think.
Collapsed vs Iowa. But they have been playing really well in big10 play.
Purdue still probably wins by double digits. Edey was in foul trouble.
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9 3s.
And I told you this gopher team is better than you think.
Collapsed vs Iowa. But they have been playing really well in big10 play.
Purdue still probably wins by double digits. Edey was in foul trouble.
Yes. But maybe the Gophers are mad.
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Yes. But maybe the Gophers are mad.
(https://i.gifer.com/Cft.gif)
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UCLA rolling at half. Hoping they double it up in 2nd. Get to Q2
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Is it International Gopher Day or something? 8pt lead at Purdue??
Let’s go Dawson!
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Let’s go Dawson!
Honestly I’m happy Dawson finally found a home - going to NC was a bad idea.
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Minnesota only down 4 with less than 4 to go.
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UCLA not having the half I desired
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Caitlin Clark needing 8 points to break the NCAA scoring record and scoring Iowa’s first 8 points, with the last being a pull-up off the dribble 3 from 40 feet with 25 on the shot clock, is awesome.
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UCLA not having the half I desired
But it looks like they'll snag the win.
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Big win for UCLA. Won’t be too 100 yet but still climbing
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Mick Cronin opted not to foul up 3. There were 8 seconds or so left when the Colorado player started driving, though, so maybe he would have if there had been less time on the clock and Colorado had the ball outside the arc.
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Caitlin Clark needing 8 points to break the NCAA scoring record and scoring Iowa’s first 8 points, with the last being a pull-up off the dribble 3 from 40 feet with 25 on the shot clock, is awesome.
Yeah, that was pretty cool. Icing on the cake to score 49. She’s within 100 of Maravich.
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Yeah, that was pretty cool. Icing on the cake to score 49. She’s within 100 of Maravich.
Amazing what she has done. But I feel like John McEnroe on this. That is really a separate record.
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Amazing what she has done. But I feel like John McEnroe on this. That is really a separate record.
She's awesome. And I agree, the women's doesn't need to be compared to the men's game. It's two separate sports and the women don't need to be compared to men to validate their accomplishments.
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Big win for UCLA. Won’t be too 100 yet but still climbing
Yep, clicked on their schedule and they are capable in any and all of them. They could even be a tourney team if they hit 20 wins and the committee keeps a blind eye to the NET. in any case Q2
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Yep, clicked on their schedule and they are capable in any and all of them. They could even be a tourney team if they hit 20 wins and the committee keeps a blind eye to the NET. in any case Q2
Yeah they have to keep winning. Only jumped 3 spots to 106. Honestly thought it would be 5 or 6 spots.
Losing that Zona game still looms large.
Need them to boat race Utah Saturday.
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She's awesome. And I agree, the women's doesn't need to be compared to the men's game. It's two separate sports and the women don't need to be compared to men to validate their accomplishments.
Why not? What’s the difference between a man and a woman?
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Why not? What’s the difference between a man and a woman?
Caitlyn Clark could get minutes for Depaul
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Yeah they have to keep winning. Only jumped 3 spots to 106. Honestly thought it would be 5 or 6 spots.
Losing that Zona game still looms large.
Need them to boat race Utah Saturday.
Its very likely that there entire season will come down to the Arizona game.
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Why not? What’s the difference between a man and a woman?
;D
Listen to us Neanderthals using terms like 'man' and 'woman'. We both need to be more enlightened.
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She's awesome. And I agree, the women's doesn't need to be compared to the men's game. It's two separate sports and the women don't need to be compared to men to validate their accomplishments.
If nothing else, the number of games each has played is significantly different.
Clark has played in 126 games in 4 years. Maravich played 83 games in 3 years.
There was no 3 point shot then either.
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Why not? What’s the difference between a man and a woman?
In God's love for us, not a thing.
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Yep, clicked on their schedule and they are capable in any and all of them. They could even be a tourney team if they hit 20 wins and the committee keeps a blind eye to the NET. in any case Q2
Unless you're a sadist, maybe lay off the hot takes for a while.
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If nothing else, the number of games each has played is significantly different.
Clark has played in 126 games in 4 years. Maravich played 83 games in 3 years.
There was no 3 point shot then either.
Who cares? The game’s different in all sorts of ways.
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Unless you're a sadist, maybe lay off the hot takes for a while.
Every informed Scooper knew the Gamecock's season was over with their Secret Scrimmage loss to VCU.
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UCLA is only going to make the tournament by winning out the regular season and probably beating arizona again in the conference tournament. There NET is currently 102. I believe it would crack the top 75 if they were to win out which includes beating Arizona at home. Anything other than winning out there NET will not crack 90.
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Every informed Scooper knew the Gamecock's season was over with their Secret Scrimmage loss to VCU.
Same for Marquette losing to Michigan.
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Who cares? The game’s different in all sorts of ways.
Thus the words “if nothing else”.
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Ever since the Beasley debacle, scoop has known that closed door scrimmages always cost MU a seed line. In fact, I think MU is still paying for being unable to stop Beasley.
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Stan Johnson’s LMU team has lost 5 in a row after getting pasted by Gonzaga.
His upperclassmen heavy team have massively underperformed this season
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Stan Johnson’s LMU team has lost 5 in a row after getting pasted by Gonzaga.
His upperclassmen heavy team have massively underperformed this season
Good thing we didn’t hire him like our deceased presidential candidate suggested.
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Good thing we didn’t hire him like our deceased presidential candidate suggested.
His choices always fall on their faces.
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His choices always fall on their excellent faces.
FIFY
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Stan Johnson’s LMU team has lost 5 in a row after getting pasted by Gonzaga.
His upperclassmen heavy team have massively underperformed this season
They had 6 scholarship players last night
And zags let them hang around a while.
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Amazing what she has done. But I feel like John McEnroe on this. That is really a separate record.
Of course it's a separate record. But I'm sure she'll be very happy to be able to say, "I'm the highest scoring DI basketball player of all time." And I have little doubt that the networks airing her games will play up that angle as well.
If nothing else, the number of games each has played is significantly different.
Clark has played in 126 games in 4 years. Maravich played 83 games in 3 years.
There was no 3 point shot then either.
This reminds me of one of my favorite tweets ever (https://x.com/JaredBerson/status/1630752690018893824?s=20) that popped up last year when Antoine Davis was chasing Maravich's record.
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Stan Johnson’s LMU team has lost 5 in a row after getting pasted by Gonzaga.
His upperclassmen heavy team have massively underperformed this season
I blame Woj
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Who cares? The game’s different in all sorts of ways.
plus, the women's balls are smaller of course
"The regulation WNBA ball is a minimum 28.5 inches (72.4 cm) in circumference, which is one inch (2.54 cm) smaller than the NBA ball. This is a standard size 6 ball. As of 2008, this size is used for all senior-level women's competitions worldwide."
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Houston is dismantling Texas right now. They are really good.
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plus, the women's balls are smaller of course
"The regulation WNBA ball is a minimum 28.5 inches (72.4 cm) in circumference, which is one inch (2.54 cm) smaller than the NBA ball. This is a standard size 6 ball. As of 2008, this size is used for all senior-level women's competitions worldwide."
But I bet even if you were her age she would beat you up badly one on one
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Houston backing up their rank and seed.
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Lot of blow outs this morning.
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Wisconsin looks like a 2-seed, imo
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Wisconsin looks like a 2-seed, imo
Iowa?? Please.
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Iowa?? Please.
An Iowa team with zero quad 1 wins.
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An Iowa team with zero quad 1 wins.
Time to move on from Fran.
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Having the last name Brauns and naming your kid Evens is a choice
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Wisconsin looks like a 2-seed, imo
And Iowa looking like a 15 upset!
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Poor Badgers!
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Some consolation on a dismal day.
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South Carolina’s road to the number 1 seed got a little rockier with a 1 point home loss to unranked LSU.
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Poor Badgers!
Gard owns Shaka
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Congrats to Iowa for their 1st Quad 1 win of the season.
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Oklahoma had Kansas ... until they didn't. On the road, KU outscores the Fightin' Mosers by 15 in the second half.
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UCLA is only going to make the tournament by winning out the regular season and probably beating arizona again in the conference tournament. There NET is currently 102. I believe it would crack the top 75 if they were to win out which includes beating Arizona at home. Anything other than winning out there NET will not crack 90.
Maybe, maybe if they win out and get to the Pac-12 title game they could get an at-large, but UCLA's best hope of making the NCAA Tournament is winning the Pac-12 tourney. None of the wins they've had in this 8/9 winning streak move the needle significantly, and those losses to Cal State Northridge, Stanford, and California at home aren't going anywhere from their resume.
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FAU at South Florida 😳
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Due down 5 at half in Columbust
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This is just the regular season for FAU, they don’t really care until the playoffs.
Johnell “Jihad” Davis knows that the eyes that matter will only be watching in the big dance, and he’s been there done that before.
So, in that sense, that’s a mid range seeded team that I would want nothing to do with
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I don’t know why people think college basketball is the NBA.
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Due down 5 at half in Columbust
It is funny to see the Boilers fall apart when Edey has to go,to the bench for a few minutes with two fouls.
Some commentators (Bilas leads the charge) love to fawn over Edey as the “best” player in college basketball.
I prefer to think of him as the most “impactful” player. In my book the “best” player has skills beyond being way taller than everyone else.
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He’s the best player in college basketball. And it’s not even that close.
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Due down 7 with 3:38 left in Clambus
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Holtmann was clearly the issue.
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It is funny to see the Boilers fall apart when Edey has to go,to the bench for a few minutes with two fouls.
Some commentators (Bilas leads the charge) love to fawn over Edey as the “best” player in college basketball.
I prefer to think of him as the most “impactful” player. In my book the “best” player has skills beyond being way taller than everyone else.
Edey does have skills beyond being way taller than everyone else. If height was all it took, Jamarion Sharp and Tacko Fall would've been NPOYs too. Edey is skilled and savvy. He's a generational player.
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I would enjoy seeing Edey and Clingan matched up in the national semifinal. With the winner to face MU.
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He’s the best player in college basketball. And it’s not even that close.
https://twitter.com/EvanMiya/status/1759291275122237560?t=Daww65LLkfkmx-cNtfougA&s=19
Fwiw
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https://twitter.com/EvanMiya/status/1759291275122237560?t=Daww65LLkfkmx-cNtfougA&s=19
Fwiw
Ok, nerd
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Edey does have skills beyond being way taller than everyone else. If height was all it took, Jamarion Sharp and Tacko Fall would've been NPOYs too. Edey is skilled and savvy. He's a generational player.
You should know what I mean.
Sure, he has skills beyond just being tall, but there are a lot of players whose skills are much greater.
That’s why I prefer the word “impactful”.
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https://twitter.com/EvanMiya/status/1759291275122237560?t=Daww65LLkfkmx-cNtfougA&s=19
Fwiw
Looks like a stat that measures impact.
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Purdue loses at Ohio State
Commence Boilermaker nation meltdown
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And the obligatory court storming.
Some real crocodile tears from the Boilers about calls in the last minute.
I guess when you’re used to 45-5 edges in free throws it must be frustrating to only have four times as many FTs as the opponent until you start fouling intentionally.
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You should know what I mean.
Sure, he has skills beyond just being tall, but there are a lot of players whose skills are much greater.
That’s why I prefer the word “impactful”.
I know that people constantly use stuff like this to underrate Edey and try to discredit him as a player. He's awesome. He puts pressure on opposing offenses like no other player because of his interior dominance and his ability to draw fouls. He's a great defender who has improved markedly not just at protecting the rim but being able to move and defend without fouling. We constantly see college offenses trying to be more and more like the NBA, and the NBA is going away from players like Edey, yet he continues to dominate like no one in 40 years. He's going to be the first NPOY to repeat since Sampson and is doing so in runaway fashion both times. And it's not just because he's taller than everyone else.
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Northern Iowa beats Bradley. Bradley’s lineup next year is being discussed amongst Bradley fans
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There is no doubt in my mind that UConn would win a best-of-7 series against Purdue - and it wouldn't go 7. Simply a better team, top to bottom.
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Ohio St. is on a roll! Oh.....wait. They had lost 9 of their last 11 before today.
I still don't trust Purdue or think the B18 is good prep for the dance.
UCONN may just be that much better than everyone? I think Houston and Iowa St are really good. I think Tennessee and Zona certainly are dangerous. After that it could be a complete crap shoot come tournament time.
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Ohio St. is on a roll! Oh.....wait. They had lost 9 of their last 11 before today.
I still don't trust Purdue or think the B18 is good prep for the dance.
UCONN may just be that much better than everyone? I think Houston and Iowa St are really good. I think Tennessee and Zona certainly are dangerous. After that it could be a complete crap shoot come tournament time.
That’s why we all love the big tournament. You can expect the unexpected to happen, it’s almost guaranteed. If you would have told anyone last year Kansas, Purdue, Alabama and Houston would all lose before the site 8 we would have laughed.
It happens every year. Purdue beats FDU 99/100 times except the 1 time it mattered they lost. It will happen again this year
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That’s why we all love the big tournament. You can expect the unexpected to happen, it’s almost guaranteed. If you would have told anyone last year Kansas, Purdue, Alabama and Houston would all lose before the site 8 we would have laughed.
It happens every year. Purdue beats FDU 99/100 times except the 1 time it mattered they lost. It will happen again this year
Absolutely. It's even possible we'll have two teams in the F4 (like last year) no one is even imagining. Tons of parity. That USF team today had a guy in tbe first half that went bananas fron distance, off the dribble mind you, and the shots were contested. Anything can happen in the tourney.
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Time for some wind sprints for the Braves.
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Nailbiter at Pauley.
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Ouch. That sucked.
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Muggsy
We have learned over the recent past that the FF is seldom chalk. There is one, maybe two, very good teams this year followed by a nice group of 8-10 teams. After that, it really is a large group of teams that could get hot at the right time. If I had to place a bet, UConn is the only team I would take for making the FF and it would not be a crazy big wager. That is why I am still optimistic for MU having a deep a run. I am hoping that the experience they have gained over the past two years is a deciding factor in a close NCAA game.
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Muggsy
We have learned over the recent past that the FF is seldom chalk. There is one, maybe two, very good teams this year followed by a nice group of 8-10 teams. After that, it really is a large group of teams that could get hot at the right time. If I had to place a bet, UConn is the only team I would take for making the FF and it would not be a crazy big wager. That is why I am still optimistic for MU having a deep a run. I am hoping that the experience they have gained over the past two years is a deciding factor in a close NCAA game.
Agree. Although, someone on MU has to step up and be the #3 stud each game. Stating the obvious here though, but MU is a lot easier to defend if its only TK and Oso.
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Muggsy
We have learned over the recent past that the FF is seldom chalk. There is one, maybe two, very good teams this year followed by a nice group of 8-10 teams. After that, it really is a large group of teams that could get hot at the right time. If I had to place a bet, UConn is the only team I would take for making the FF and it would not be a crazy big wager. That is why I am still optimistic for MU having a deep a run. I am hoping that the experience they have gained over the past two years is a deciding factor in a close NCAA game.
The NCAA tournament shifted imo when UMBC beat Virginia. It showed that no matter what seed you were, there was no bye game anymore. Since then you have seen multiple 15 seeds beat 2 and even advance further than just the 2nd round. Purdue lost to FDU last year as the 1/16 matchup. It is not easy to even get to the sweet 16 anymore let alone the final four. I don't know if this is because of the NIL or changes in mindset where 3/4/5 star players would rather be on a lesser team if it means more playing time but something shifted recently.
Someone had mentioned in another thread not wanting to match up with Michigan St again in the 2nd round. MSU is not a great team by an measure, but if the Fans and or MU has a doubt in their mind about playing MSU in the 2nd round they might as well wave the white flag. You can get away with underperforming in the 1st round and still winning 99% of the time. Once you get to the second round you are playing a team that deserves to be there. Keep in mind for all the lower seeds especially the mid majors, this is the pinacle of their college career. They are going to give everything they have to pull an memorable upset.
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Crapshoot
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Crapshoot
Indeed
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Crapshoot
Would be nice to get a little shoot this year instead of the usual crap.
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Would be nice to get a little shoot this year instead of the usual crap.
Do you mean dung?
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Chicago St. has wrapped up their season. Lol
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The NCAA tournament shifted imo when UMBC beat Virginia. It showed that no matter what seed you were, there was no bye game anymore. Since then you have seen multiple 15 seeds beat 2 and even advance further than just the 2nd round. Purdue lost to FDU last year as the 1/16 matchup. It is not easy to even get to the sweet 16 anymore let alone the final four. I don't know if this is because of the NIL or changes in mindset where 3/4/5 star players would rather be on a lesser team if it means more playing time but something shifted recently.
Someone had mentioned in another thread not wanting to match up with Michigan St again in the 2nd round. MSU is not a great team by an measure, but if the Fans and or MU has a doubt in their mind about playing MSU in the 2nd round they might as well wave the white flag. You can get away with underperforming in the 1st round and still winning 99% of the time. Once you get to the second round you are playing a team that deserves to be there. Keep in mind for all the lower seeds especially the mid majors, this is the pinacle of their college career. They are going to give everything they have to pull an memorable upset.
…which is why opponent matchups are so important. I mentioned not wanting to play Sparty again. Why? They are a bad matchup for MU. Back in 2015, or thereabouts when Wisconsin made the F4, they had incredibly favorable matchups in that tournament….not to mention they had help with upsets in the other brackets. WI was good, no doubt, but the opponents were tailor made for that particular Badger team. I hope MU gets that type of draw. If not, man-up and ball, but a favorable match-up, especially-so in a second rd game is really important in swinging the pendulum toward a deep run.
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Virginia down 32 to VaTech? …might be lucky to break 40 pts? Yikes. I know Bennett won a Nat…and lots of people in WI would love to see him replace Gard, but man, that style of ball is an acquired taste imo
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Congrats to the 3rd place team in the ACC.
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Congrats to the 3rd place team in the ACC.
Amazingly, they had won 9 of 10 entering tonight. Thought they had turned a corner but woof.
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Amazingly, they had won 9 of 10 entering tonight. Thought they had turned a corner but woof.
Running through the gauntlet that is the ACC no less.
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Running through the gauntlet that is the ACC no less.
Still gotta win the games.
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Do we want Houston or Iowa St?
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Do we want Houston or Iowa St?
Houston
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Still gotta win the games.
Nothing amazing about beating up on those bums in the acc
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Houston is a 1. Keep Iowa St from creeping up.
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Amazingly, they had won 9 of 10 entering tonight. Thought they had turned a corner but woof.
VT 75 Virginia 41
UVA sucks.
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Nothing amazing about beating up on those bums.
I said it was amazing. Should have used a better word. They were still a bubble team. But it’s better to win 9 out of 10 than go 5-5 like seemingly the rest of the league.
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VT 75 Virginia 41
UVA sucks.
Glad to see it. Not a fan
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Do we want Houston or Iowa St?
Houston is better for us but Iowa St still has some equity with me due to their win over the UW in Milwaukee a few years back. I was at the game and they caused a lot of Walmart badger tears which is never a bad thing to see.
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Watching Houston rebound is a thing of beauty.
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These two teams are pretty similar. They foul a lot.
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4pts in 10mins of playing time is a problem.
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These two teams are pretty similar. They foul a lot.
Houston is a physical team. Only flaw on defense is fouling. Probably best defensive team in the land.
If they could shoot, they’d have a case as the favorite but they can’t
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Houston is a physical team. Only flaw on defense is fouling. Probably best defensive team in the land.
If they could shoot, they’d have a case as the favorite but they can’t
How they are officiated in the tournament will be interesting. They're a very good defensive and rebounding team but I see a lot of contact on and off the ball.
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How they are officiated in the tournament will be interesting. They're a very good defensive and rebounding team but I see a lot of contact on and off the ball.
They get so many extra possessions because they’re such a great rebounding team. Has to be frustrating playing them and the backcourt is fantastic. Capable of winning it all but I’d be more concerned about a bad shooting night knocking them out than how the officials call a game.
Iowa State isn’t a great offense. Can’t see them hanging around tonight if they get too far behind
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They get so many extra possessions because they’re such a great rebounding team. Has to be frustrating playing them and the backcourt is fantastic. Capable of winning it all but I’d be more concerned about a bad shooting night knocking them out than how the officials call a game.
Iowa State isn’t a great offense. Can’t see them hanging around tonight if they get too far behind
I could see both teams frustrating us.
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I could see MU frustrating both teams.
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I could see both teams frustrating us.
I think Marquette would handle Iowa State. Houston is a different animal. Would take a really good game but doable.
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I could see MU frustrating both teams.
True.
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MU is 48-13 over the last two seasons. Taken down some big names and competed toe to toe with others. MU is not a scrappy underdog, team bubble watch, or a feel good story. MU may not win, but MU has to fear very few on a neutral floor.
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That Pewaukee kid has some game.
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tower
I find it disappointing that you need to point out the MU resume over the past two seasons. I have used that logic to multiple people over the past two months and have given up. For the record, MU will be difficult out for far more teams than I am concerned about them playing.
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How did we miss out on that Slavic star from Pewaukee?
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How did we miss out on that Slavic star from Pewaukee?
Our last coach put us over the limit on consonants.
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Having to fear St Thomas put many of us over the edge....
tower
I find it disappointing that you need to point out the MU resume over the past two seasons. I have used that logic to multiple people over the past two months and have given up. For the record, MU will be difficult out for far more teams than I am concerned about them playing.
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VT 75 Virginia 41
UVA sucks.
When they lost to ND, I knew this wasn't one of Bennett's better teams.
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I find it disappointing that you need to point out the MU resume over the past two seasons. I have used that logic to multiple people over the past two months and have given up. For the record, MU will be difficult out for far more teams than I am concerned about them playing.
Yep, it gets tiresome. The Eeyore Quotient is strong here.
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tower
I find it disappointing that you need to point out the MU resume over the past two seasons. I have used that logic to multiple people over the past two months and have given up. For the record, MU will be difficult out for far more teams than I am concerned about them playing.
I don’t think there was a “need” to point out the MU resume.
I didn’t see any recent comments that said that there were multiple teams MU couldn’t beat. Any statement that there are a lot of teams that could give MU trouble or “frustrate” them is simply a statement of fact. They are more realistic than any statement that MU “should” make the Final Four (and there was one of those a few days ago).
Maybe the Eeyore Radar is a little too sensitive.
Take a look back at the predictions made in December for MU’s Big East record, and it should be obvious that the “Eeyores” are a distinct minority.
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I am hurt you are expressing an opinion criticizing my opinion.
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I am hurt you are expressing an opinion criticizing my opinion.
Actually I was not disagreeing with your opinion.
I was disagreeing with Goose’s opinion that you “needed” to post it. :)
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;)
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Missouri leads Tennessee 1-0 at the first media timeout.
Update: second media timeout, Tennessee 6, Missouri 2.
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Missouri leads Tennessee 1-0 at the first media timeout.
Update: second media timeout, Tennessee 6, Missouri 2.
I’m at the game. It’s ugly. Still wouldn’t love matching up with TN. They have a lot of beef down low.
Edit: TN came out of the locker room with about 130 seconds left in halftime. Mizzou not a ton earlier. No wonder neither can score.
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Michigan State lowering their seed.
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Michigan State lowering their seed.
Seth Davis not pleased.
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Ty Iowa on Saturday. Ty Iowa on Tuesday.
Sincerely,
Everyone.
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Buzz about to lose to Arkansas at home.
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Is the Buzzard's seat getting warm?
Might need another binder in a few weeks.
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Texas A&M is 15-11 with 5 Q3 losses
Lundardi didnt even have them on his last 4 in.
Thats absurd.
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Texas A&M is 15-11 with 5 Q3 losses
Lundardi didnt even have them on his last 4 in.
Thats absurd.
They have 6 Q1 wins to offset that (and it was 4 before tonight). They are a really difficult team to place. All the metrics have indicated inclusion and they have great top-of-the-resume wins, but those Q3 losses are starting to stack up like cordwood. They're really tough to evaluate right now.
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Shaka repped MU well on sports center. Van pelt loves college hoops.
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They have 6 Q1 wins to offset that (and it was 4 before tonight). They are a really difficult team to place. All the metrics have indicated inclusion and they have great top-of-the-resume wins, but those Q3 losses are starting to stack up like cordwood. They're really tough to evaluate right now.
Good luck 😂
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Illini with an epic collapse.
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Illinois totally gacked away a win at Penn State. 8-0 run in the last 35 seconds.
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Complete meltdown by Illinos at Penn St.
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Wow crazy finish in hppy valley. Never foul a 3 point shooter with 3 secs left
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Hawkins isn’t just supremely unlikeable, he’s also an idiot
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I assume we want Florida to punk Bama?
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Hawkins isn’t just supremely unlikeable, he’s also an idiot
Well said JWags.
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Yea Hawkins is the worst
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still scratching my head about cooley taking hoya job
watch out for grand canyon university as they should make the dance...i wouldn't want to play them. yes, WAC but they'd be tough match-ups for a lot of teams
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LSU just beat Kentucky.
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LSU just beat Kentucky.
Crazy end
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Storming a court over number 17 is a bit much even if it is kentucky.
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Storming a court over number 17 is a bit much even if it is kentucky.
I have hated Kentucky going back to Al McGuire's time. Storm the court no matter what Calamari's slimy team is ranked.
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Mason stormed for beating Dayton
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All the teams behind us doing whatever it takes to help ensure we get a 2 seed no matter how we close out.
With that Ill loss we have to be pretty much locked into Indy.
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Complete meltdown by Illinos at Penn St.
Penn State down 7 with 40 seconds left.
Unlike St. John's against Marquette, PSU didn't quit.
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Hope Kentucky doesn’t fall to the 7 line and end up there.
Nightmare scenario imo
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Indiana is a terrible basketball team.
What do you make of the MWC teams?
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Indiana is a terrible basketball team.
What do you make of the MWC teams?
Don't care
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Don't care
Why the hostility?
The Aztecs made the title game last year.
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Why the hostility?
The Aztecs made the title game last year.
Aztecs is a very racist name, shame
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Don't care
My attention span can't keep up. All I know is that the Swingin' Door is full of MU fans!
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GCU's undefeated Quad 3 and Quad 4 records are impressive...
still scratching my head about cooley taking hoya job
watch out for grand canyon university as they should make the dance...i wouldn't want to play them. yes, WAC but they'd be tough match-ups for a lot of teams
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My attention span can't keep up. All I know is that the Swingin' Door is full of MU fans!
Get ready to sin and go to darkness this weekend.
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My attention span can't keep up. All I know is that the Swingin' Door is full of MU fans!
Does that place still exist? Used to be one of our favorite downtown bars.
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Indiana is a terrible basketball team.
What do you make of the MWC teams?
Hard to say Muggs, I haven’t seen enough of them but they will have a decent contingent in the dance so maybe I need to start watching.
Results wise, the problem is that they collectively as a group have only 1 impressive win- Colorado States beat down of Creighton.
Otherwise, they’ve beaten StMarys/Gonzaga and each other for the most part, so kind of hard to judge.
I probably wouldn’t hate if Marquette drew one in the second game but I hope it’s not SDSU- they are tough defensively and have challenged themselves, plus they’ve tasted victory so shouldn’t be in awe of the moment.
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they are tough defensively and have challenged themselves
Of all the "second weekend" discussion here. I hope Marquette can avoid a top #25 defensive team the first weekend. They've proven they can prevail... But not consistently.
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Does that place still exist? Used to be one of our favorite downtown bars.
As I sit at their bar sipping a Riverwest, it exists!
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Hard to say Muggs, I haven’t seen enough of them but they will have a decent contingent in the dance so maybe I need to start watching.
Results wise, the problem is that they collectively as a group have only 1 impressive win- Colorado States beat down of Creighton.
Otherwise, they’ve beaten StMarys/Gonzaga and each other for the most part, so kind of hard to judge.
I probably wouldn’t hate if Marquette drew one in the second game but I hope it’s not SDSU- they are tough defensively and have challenged themselves, plus they’ve tasted victory so shouldn’t be in awe of the moment.
I could easily see us matching up with a MWC in the tournament so perhaps I will watch a few of these teams the next 3 weeks.
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From Yahoo Sports, the feel-good story of the season:
Less than a year removed from his final chemo treatment, redshirt freshman Myles Rice is powering Washington State to its best season in 16 years.
The former three-star recruit out of Georgia leads the Cougars in points (15.9), assists (3.7) and steals (1.7), making the most of his first season on the court and third year in college.
After redshirting his first year, Rice appeared set to join the rotation last season before his world flipped upside down: He had Hodgkin's lymphoma.
The cancer diagnosis caused him to miss another season while undergoing twice-a-month chemotherapy from October until March 2023.
Last June, Rice got the call that his cancer was in remission. Now he's the team's unquestioned star, earning Pac-12 Freshman of the Week honors a record-tying seven times.
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Mason stormed for beating Dayton
They were celebrating TK's assist record.
That was their first home win over a ranked opponent. Likely because they rarely play ranked teams at their place.
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https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2024/2/21/24079289/college-basketball-teams-national-championship-contenders-ranked-ncaa-march-madness
Fire shaka
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https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2024/2/21/24079289/college-basketball-teams-national-championship-contenders-ranked-ncaa-march-madness
Fire shaka
Wow what a list. Taking the top teams from the poll. You should have to pay for content like this.
Not a chance in hell Duke is winning anything.
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https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2024/2/21/24079289/college-basketball-teams-national-championship-contenders-ranked-ncaa-march-madness
Fire shaka
Real bold of SB Nation to go out on a limb and list UConn, UNC, Duke, Kansas.
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Purdue-Rutgers, officials are technical happy. Players make 3s in front of the opposing benches, chat with the opposi g benches, and get t'd up. Two weak sauce calls.
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Really enjoying how awful IU is. Never liked the program and then developed some close friendships with a couple of fans that are delusional enough to still think it’s a blue blood.
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Jose Perez is at Arizona State…same guy that had been with MU? Dude gets around.
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Wazzu knocks off Zona in Tuscon to take 1st place in the PAC 12. Door to the one seed stays cracked open
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Wazzu knocks off Zona in Tuscon to take 1st place in the PAC 12. Door to the one seed stays cracked open
Probably still need a bit of help even if we win out incl BET.
Not to beat the horse, but it irks me so much that the computer like AZ so much more than us - those losses at Stanford and OrStae are so bad. A Q3 loss should really matter in a head to head comparison for a 1 seed.
That said, AZ isn't the only team we need to pass and we probably need each of those teams (UNC/Tenn/KU?) to lose another as well - but they all have some pretty tough road. If KU or Tenn win out their regular season (a tough task!) I think either on the 1 line going into championship week. KU finishing with wins @UH and UNC doesn't deserve to be there, but if they win out (likely beating Dooook two more time in the process) I can see the committee putting them ahead of a MU team that runs the table.
But, overall, if we take care of business (also a tall order) we probably would be sitting with a fighting chance on selection Sunday.
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Wazzu knocks off Zona in Tuscon to take 1st place in the PAC 12. Door to the one seed stays cracked open
Kyle Smith can really coach.
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I think if they redid the seeding now Arizona would be off the 1 line. You can't give a team a 1 seed who doesn't win their conference and with the PAC 12 being as bad as it is. I know its a long shot but I still believe Marquette controls there destiny on the 1 line and that's not even talking Big East Tournament. If they just win out the regular season they will be a 1 seed.
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The loss to St. Thomas probably keeps Marquette off the 1-seed
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Jose Perez is at Arizona State…same guy that had been with MU? Dude gets around.
Wow, it is him. And he’s started all but 3 games, averaging 13 a game, 41% from 3. Not bad.
Weird his worst college season by far came under Wojo 🙄
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Wow, it is him. And he’s started all but 3 games, averaging 13 a game, 41% from 3. Not bad.
Weird his worst college season by far came under Wojo 🙄
I mean, he’s 40 now. Those YMCA moves confound younger players
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Wow, it is him. And he’s started all but 3 games, averaging 13 a game, 41% from 3. Not bad.
Weird his worst college season by far came under Wojo 🙄
Yeah, intending to red shirt and then getting pressed into action as the first big off the bench (6'5). Plus, so many other things. Hard to believe he didn't stick around. Good for him.
https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2024/02/22/asu-basketball-journeyman-jose-perez/
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Wow, it is him. And he’s started all but 3 games, averaging 13 a game, 41% from 3. Not bad.
Weird his worst college season by far came under Wojo 🙄
He intended to redshirt, got Covid and was pressed into playing due to injuries elsewhere. But sure...it was on Wojo.
Anyway, a complete non-fit for Shaka.
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Wow, it is him. And he’s started all but 3 games, averaging 13 a game, 41% from 3. Not bad.
Weird his worst college season by far came under Wojo 🙄
He’s also in like year 6 and putting these numbers up on a team that blows
Good for him.
But Jose Perez 3 years later is not high on the list of things to hold against Wojo
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My still such sensitive feelings about Wojo. No, it sure doesn’t make the top 50 reasons of what incompetence he showed here as coach. Nor was that even remotely my point of course.
This is a decent player who could have contributed if Wojo wouldn’t have been such an idiot. And his parting remarks from MU pointed out only his teammates as a positive from the season. Glaring omission about his coach.
But please take an off hand comment and completely overreact.
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Probably still need a bit of help even if we win out incl BET.
Not to beat the horse, but it irks me so much that the computer like AZ so much more than us - those losses at Stanford and OrStae are so bad. A Q3 loss should really matter in a head to head comparison for a 1 seed.
That said, AZ isn't the only team we need to pass and we probably need each of those teams (UNC/Tenn/KU?) to lose another as well - but they all have some pretty tough road. If KU or Tenn win out their regular season (a tough task!) I think either on the 1 line going into championship week. KU finishing with wins @UH and UNC doesn't deserve to be there, but if they win out (likely beating Dooook two more time in the process) I can see the committee putting them ahead of a MU team that runs the table.
But, overall, if we take care of business (also a tall order) we probably would be sitting with a fighting chance on selection Sunday.
Arizona isn't they're because "the computers love them". They are there because they've amassed 7 Q1 wins, 4th most this season. Including two wins away from home at projected 3 seeds. Those are two of the best wins any team has this season. They have an ugly Q3 loss which is why they are vulnerable and the other 1 seeds aren't. North Carolina and Kansas, two of the 2 seeds also have Q3 losses.
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Perez was not ready to play from a physical standpoint at all that year. He was completely out of shape. Credit to him for working hard and correcting that. No issue with Shaka parting ways with him though as we replaced him with better fits.
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Perez was not ready to play from a physical standpoint at all that year. He was completely out of shape. Credit to him for working hard and correcting that. No issue with Shaka parting ways with him though as we replaced him with better fits.
Yes, clearly not a fit for Shaka.
I can buy the playing shape argument to an extent. But you’d have to be inside the program to have a truly solid read about his conditioning that year.
But for a guy whose coaching seat was clearly hot that whole season, you’d think approach would have been all hands on deck to who can potentially contribute.
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My still such sensitive feelings about Wojo. No, it sure doesn’t make the top 50 reasons of what incompetence he showed here as coach. Nor was that even remotely my point of course.
This is a decent player who could have contributed if Wojo wouldn’t have been such an idiot. And his parting remarks from MU pointed out only his teammates as a positive from the season. Glaring omission about his coach.
But please take an off hand comment and completely overreact.
You are calling Wojo an "idiot" for not getting more out of Jose Perez, and then complain that OTHERS are overreacting? ::)
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My still such sensitive feelings about Wojo. No, it sure doesn’t make the top 50 reasons of what incompetence he showed here as coach. Nor was that even remotely my point of course.
This is a decent player who could have contributed if Wojo wouldn’t have been such an idiot. And his parting remarks from MU pointed out only his teammates as a positive from the season. Glaring omission about his coach.
But please take an off hand comment and completely overreact.
Ummm I think we have the overreaction
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Probably still need a bit of help even if we win out incl BET.
Not to beat the horse, but it irks me so much that the computer like AZ so much more than us - those losses at Stanford and OrStae are so bad. A Q3 loss should really matter in a head to head comparison for a 1 seed.
That said, AZ isn't the only team we need to pass and we probably need each of those teams (UNC/Tenn/KU?) to lose another as well - but they all have some pretty tough road. If KU or Tenn win out their regular season (a tough task!) I think either on the 1 line going into championship week. KU finishing with wins @UH and UNC doesn't deserve to be there, but if they win out (likely beating Dooook two more time in the process) I can see the committee putting them ahead of a MU team that runs the table.
But, overall, if we take care of business (also a tall order) we probably would be sitting with a fighting chance on selection Sunday.
I have absolutely zero doubt that if we add wins @Creighton, home against UCONN, @Xavier, neutral against Creighton, neutral against UCONN, and neutral against one of Nova/Xavier/Butler/St. John's we will be a 1 seed.
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I have absolutely zero doubt that if we add wins @Creight, home against UCONN, @Xavier, neutral against Creighton, neutral against UCONN, and neutral against one of Nova/Xavier/Butler/St. John's we will be a 1 seed.
Counting out DePaul & Georgetown already?
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I have absolutely zero doubt that if we add wins @Creight, home against UCONN, @Xavier, neutral against Creighton, neutral against UCONN, and neutral against one of Nova/Xavier/Butler/St. John's we will be a 1 seed.
Absolutely agree. At that point, we'd have won 17 of our last 18.
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Counting out DePaul & Georgetown already?
Lol, yes.
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Sorry, but I don't get the fascination with being a 1 seed for the tournament - which is highly, highly unlikely to happen. Yes, being a 1 seed is better than being a 16. But, any seeding from 1 - 4 is a strong seed and gives you a manageable first round game. After the first round, any team you play is a good team or a team on a hot streak and you have to be on your A game. Beating Creighton in Omaha is a lot harder than beating them in Milwaukee, and Creighton has started to play really well lately. Beating UConn anywhere is a tall order. If MU is a 2 seed, it's ok. If they are a 3 seed, that's not the end of the world either. I am really more concerned about which region they are in and who else is there. I would rather see the team placed in a region headed by Purdue than a region with Houston.
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I have absolutely zero doubt that if we add wins @Creighton, home against UCONN, @Xavier, neutral against Creighton, neutral against UCONN, and neutral against one of Nova/Xavier/Butler/St. John's we will be a 1 seed.
It would be hard to imagine us not getting a one seed in that admittedly unlikely scenario. Only way I think we wouldn't is if Kansas also won out and Houstons only remaining losses were to Kansas
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I have absolutely zero doubt that if we add wins @Creighton, home against UCONN, @Xavier, neutral against Creighton, neutral against UCONN, and neutral against one of Nova/Xavier/Butler/St. John's we will be a 1 seed.
The opportunity is there for sure. The only thing I will say is that Houston is going to be difficult to pass if they win the B12 outright.
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Sorry, but I don't get the fascination with being a 1 seed for the tournament - which is highly, highly unlikely to happen. Yes, being a 1 seed is better than being a 16. But, any seeding from 1 - 4 is a strong seed and gives you a manageable first round game. After the first round, any team you play is a good team or a team on a hot streak and you have to be on your A game. Beating Creighton in Omaha is a lot harder than beating them in Milwaukee, and Creighton has started to play really well lately. Beating UConn anywhere is a tall order. If MU is a 2 seed, it's ok. If they are a 3 seed, that's not the end of the world either. I am really more concerned about which region they are in and who else is there. I would rather see the team placed in a region headed by Purdue than a region with Houston.
Were fascinated because it's never happened before. We're fascinated because it would mean a dominant run of Marquette basketball to finish the season. And yes 1 seeds have the easier path, that's undebatable.
It's not just OK if we earn a 2 seed, it's great. Tied for highest seed in program history. But that doesnt mean we can't speculate about what it would take to earn a 1 seed. I'm sure the team wants a 1 seed. Not as much as a deep run in March but the great thing is you can have both
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The opportunity is there for sure. The only thing I will say is that Houston is going to be difficult to pass if they win the B12 outright.
Arizona would be passed, not Houston
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Arizona would be passed, not Houston
Zona will not be a #1. I'm more concerned with Tennessee.
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Zona will not be a #1. I'm more concerned with Tennessee.
Tennessee has an absolute brutal schedule to end the year so it’s possible they will end up with it. The play vs Auburn, at Alabama , at South Carolina and home to Kentucky. Every team there is top 20. They go 4-0 they clinch the 1.
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Sorry, but I don't get the fascination with being a 1 seed for the tournament - which is highly, highly unlikely to happen. Yes, being a 1 seed is better than being a 16. But, any seeding from 1 - 4 is a strong seed and gives you a manageable first round game. After the first round, any team you play is a good team or a team on a hot streak and you have to be on your A game. Beating Creighton in Omaha is a lot harder than beating them in Milwaukee, and Creighton has started to play really well lately. Beating UConn anywhere is a tall order. If MU is a 2 seed, it's ok. If they are a 3 seed, that's not the end of the world either. I am really more concerned about which region they are in and who else is there. I would rather see the team placed in a region headed by Purdue than a region with Houston.
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Arizona isn't they're because "the computers love them". They are there because they've amassed 7 Q1 wins, 4th most this season. Including two wins away from home at projected 3 seeds. Those are two of the best wins any team has this season. They have an ugly Q3 loss which is why they are vulnerable and the other 1 seeds aren't. North Carolina and Kansas, two of the 2 seeds also have Q3 losses.
I mean, the computers do love them - that's pretty objective - 3rd in NET, 5 in Torvik, 4 in Kenpom. By contrast we're 13, 14, 13.
And the Q1 win fetish - you're telling me we'd have a stronger profile if we'd won @SH and @Prov but lost @Georgetown and vs SH? Because that's basically the difference in our profiles. I mean if that's why they're "there" - I guess...
As we've already discussed - their top wins - @Duke, vs UW, N Alabama are certainly no better, and arguably worse than ours - @ILL, vs. CU, N KU
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Tennessee has an absolute brutal schedule to end the year so it’s possible they will end up with it. The play vs Auburn, at Alabama , at South Carolina and home to Kentucky. Every team there is top 20. They go 4-0 they clinch the 1.
Yeah - it's a tough road but they're probably the only outsider whose fate is completely in their own hands.
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I mean, the computers do love them - that's pretty objective - 3rd in NET, 5 in Torvik, 4 in Kenpom. By contrast we're 13, 14, 13.
And the Q1 win fetish - you're telling me we'd have a stronger profile if we'd won @SH and @Prov but lost @Georgetown and vs SH? Because that's basically the difference in our profiles. I mean if that's why they're "there" - I guess...
As we've already discussed - their top wins - @Duke, vs UW, N Alabama are certainly no better, and arguably worse than ours - @ILL, vs. CU, N KU
My gripe is that you seem to imply that Arizona hasn't beaten anyone when they are alone in fourth in the country in Q1 wins, behind only the three other 1 seeds. They are also 11th in NET Non-Con SOS and 2nd in RPI SOS. KenPom has them as 12th best SOS. In the same rankings, we're 19, 25, and 15. They've played a tough schedule and did very well. I think that stems from you thinking Alabama and Duke are overrated when they are just as good of teams as Kansas and Illinois. Creighton is better than Wisconsin but we just got by them and they pounded the everliving snot out of the Badgers, that matters. And it's not like they got these numbers by beating up on a bunch of Q4 teams. The've only played 3 Q4 games all season and if UT-Arlington moves up 1 spot it will only be 2 Q4 games. By contrast, we've played 7 Q4 games this season (thanks DePaul/Georgetown).
The Big East is better than the PAC 12, but our conference schedule so far may not be as strong as you might think compared to Zona's. The Big East is better because we have three elite teams at the top whereas the PAC 12 only has Zona. And because we're one of those elite teams, we only got 4 games against elite teams in conference and we've only played 2 of them so far. We squeaked by in one and got taken behind the woodshed in the other. We'll see how the last two go. Otherwise, us beating the likes of Villanova, St. John's, Butler, and Seton Hall six times is not really any better than Zona beating the likes of Colorado, Utah, and Oregon five times. Throw in their wins against UCLA, USC, and Cal being much better than beating Georgetown and DePaul, you can see how the conference schedules so far are more equal than you might think.
Zona has played as tough of a schedule as us so far and has done slightly better than we have. The difference however is that when it is all said and done, we will have played the much tougher schedule. Not including the BET, we have 2 Q1A, 1 Q1B, and 2 Q2B games remaining. Arizona has 4 Q2B and 1 Q3 game remaining. They can only hurt their resume going forward whereas we have 3 opportunities to improve ours. The path is there.
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My still such sensitive feelings about Wojo. No, it sure doesn’t make the top 50 reasons of what incompetence he showed here as coach. Nor was that even remotely my point of course.
This is a decent player who could have contributed if Wojo wouldn’t have been such an idiot. And his parting remarks from MU pointed out only his teammates as a positive from the season. Glaring omission about his coach.
But please take an off hand comment and completely overreact.
trust me…overreaction to a post is the name of the game in these parts
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My gripe is that you seem to imply that Arizona hasn't beaten anyone when they are alone in fourth in the country in Q1 wins, behind only the three other 1 seeds. They are also 11th in NET Non-Con SOS and 2nd in RPI SOS. KenPom has them as 12th best SOS. In the same rankings, we're 19, 25, and 15. They've played a tough schedule and did very well. I think that stems from you thinking Alabama and Duke are overrated when they are just as good of teams as Kansas and Illinois. Creighton is better than Wisconsin but we just got by them and they pounded the everliving snot out of the Badgers, that matters. And it's not like they got these numbers by beating up on a bunch of Q4 teams. The've only played 3 Q4 games all season and if UT-Arlington moves up 1 spot it will only be 2 Q4 games. By contrast, we've played 7 Q4 games this season (thanks DePaul/Georgetown).
The Big East is better than the PAC 12, but our conference schedule so far may not be as strong as you might think compared to Zona's. The Big East is better because we have three elite teams at the top whereas the PAC 12 only has Zona. And because we're one of those elite teams, we only got 4 games against elite teams in conference and we've only played 2 of them so far. We squeaked by in one and got taken behind the woodshed in the other. We'll see how the last two go. Otherwise, us beating the likes of Villanova, St. John's, Butler, and Seton Hall six times is not really any better than Zona beating the likes of Colorado, Utah, and Oregon five times. Throw in their wins against UCLA, USC, and Cal being much better than beating Georgetown and DePaul, you can see how the conference schedules so far are more equal than you might think.
Zona has played as tough of a schedule as us so far and has done slightly better than we have. The difference however is that when it is all said and done, we will have played the much tougher schedule. Not including the BET, we have 2 Q1A, 1 Q1B, and 2 Q2B games remaining. Arizona has 4 Q2B and 1 Q3 game remaining. They can only hurt their resume going forward whereas we have 3 opportunities to improve ours. The path is there.
And they've also lost to Oregon state. That would be like us losing to Georgetown. And Stanford.
My point is our and their winning profiles are pretty similar - im not saying they dont have good wins - BUT WE DO TOO. Where we differ most obviously is that they have one REALLY BAD and one pretty bad loss. Whereas our worst loss mind of but not really that bad loss. But yet they are unanimously ahead of us in brackets and computers.
A Q3 loss should DQ you as a 1 seed.
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A Q3 loss should DQ you as a 1 seed.
What a ridiculous idea.
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And they've also lost to Oregon state. That would be like us losing to Georgetown. And Stanford.
My point is our and their winning profiles are pretty similar - im not saying they dont have good wins - BUT WE DO TOO. Where we differ most obviously is that they have one REALLY BAD and one pretty bad loss. Whereas our worst loss mind of but not really that bad loss. But yet they are unanimously ahead of us in brackets and computers.
A Q3 loss should DQ you as a 1 seed.
No one's forgetting that they lost to Oregon State and Stanford. And no one's arguing that we don't have good wins. The argument that is universally accepted by all but Marquette fans is that despite that, Arizona still has a better overall resume and while the gap isn't large, it is clear. I think you overestimate how much value the committee places on bad losses. They matter, but the committee has always cared more about who you beat, where you beat them, and how you beat them.
Teams don't get love from the computers for no reason. I understand those who don't like teams getting rewarded for obliterating a bunch of Q4 opponents, I think that's a flaw too. That's not what's happening with Arizona. They are decimating quality teams: Alabama (N) by 13, Wisconsin (H) by 25, Colorado (A/H) by 20 and 47, Utah (H) by 19. Compare that to us we have Kansas (N) by 14, Villanova (H) by 13, Texas (H w/o their leading scorer) by 21, Seton Hall (H w/o their leading scorer) by 18. Being able to not just beat but dominate good teams matters.
Good news is, they're in striking distance and they only have Q2B and Q3 games left. Win our Q1 games and we will pass them.
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What a ridiculous idea.
I agree.
But I'm sure we all agree a Q4 loss should relegate you to DII. Right?
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No one's forgetting that they lost to Oregon State and Stanford. And no one's arguing that we don't have good wins. The argument that is universally accepted by all but Marquette fans is that despite that, Arizona still has a better overall resume and while the gap isn't large, it is clear. I think you overestimate how much value the committee places on bad losses. They matter, but the committee has always cared more about who you beat, where you beat them, and how you beat them.
Teams don't get love from the computers for no reason. I understand those who don't like teams getting rewarded for obliterating a bunch of Q4 opponents, I think that's a flaw too. That's not what's happening with Arizona. They are decimating quality teams: Alabama (N) by 13, Wisconsin (H) by 25, Colorado (A/H) by 20 and 47, Utah (H) by 19. Compare that to us we have Kansas (N) by 14, Villanova (H) by 13, Texas (H w/o their leading scorer) by 21, Seton Hall (H w/o their leading scorer) by 18. Being able to not just beat but dominate good teams matters.
Good news is, they're in striking distance and they only have Q2B and Q3 games left. Win our Q1 games and we will pass them.
100%. People also forget that just because they are ahead of them now does not mean they will finish ahead even if they both win out from. Arizona plays virtually no one to close the season, even in their conference tournament they play no one. MU on the other hand has a minimum of 3-4 Q1 games and could go to 5. If they win all of them, they would surely move ahead of Arizona. As it stands now Arizona's numbers are just slightly better.
If I had to guess the final 1 seed isnt going to come down to Arizona at all. I think its going to come down to Marquette or Tennessee.
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100%. People also forget that just because they are ahead of them now does not mean they will finish ahead even if they both win out from. Arizona plays virtually no one to close the season, even in their conference tournament they play no one. MU on the other hand has a minimum of 3-4 Q1 games and could go to 5. If they win all of them, they would surely move ahead of Arizona. As it stands now Arizona's numbers are just slightly better.
If I had to guess the final 1 seed isnt going to come down to Arizona at all. I think its going to come down to Marquette or Tennessee.
Howard,
We control our own destiny. In the meantime let's hope UVA punks UNC, Tenn loses a few, and UCLA beats Zona. I will be happy with a 2 seed regardless. It's time to play our A game the next few weeks and throughout the NCAA tournament.
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Howard,
We control our own destiny. In the meantime let's hope UVA punks UNC, Tenn loses a few, and UCLA beats Zona. I will be happy with a 2 seed regardless. It's time to play our A game the next few weeks and throughout the NCAA tournament.
I agree. To be honest, I don't really care what our seed is as long as we are playing well. For me its about seeing Marquette on the 1 line for the first time in my life but I'm certainly not going to complain with a 2 seed either.
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No one's forgetting that they lost to Oregon State and Stanford. And no one's arguing that we don't have good wins. The argument that is universally accepted by all but Marquette fans is that despite that, Arizona still has a better overall resume and while the gap isn't large, it is clear. I think you overestimate how much value the committee places on bad losses. They matter, but the committee has always cared more about who you beat, where you beat them, and how you beat them.
Teams don't get love from the computers for no reason. I understand those who don't like teams getting rewarded for obliterating a bunch of Q4 opponents, I think that's a flaw too. That's not what's happening with Arizona. They are decimating quality teams: Alabama (N) by 13, Wisconsin (H) by 25, Colorado (A/H) by 20 and 47, Utah (H) by 19. Compare that to us we have Kansas (N) by 14, Villanova (H) by 13, Texas (H w/o their leading scorer) by 21, Seton Hall (H w/o their leading scorer) by 18. Being able to not just beat but dominate good teams matters.
Good news is, they're in striking distance and they only have Q2B and Q3 games left. Win our Q1 games and we will pass them.
I agree with you that Zona has the resume
Not sure why you are using the leading scoreer thing for us though
1. It probably applies to games that zona played as well with guys being out
2. Its irrelevent to resumes
3. We were missing guys vs Hall
4. We absolutely eviscerated Texas the parenthesis should be it was ONLY 21 when Shaka envoked the mercy rule
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I blame DePaul
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Teams to cheer for today.
Baylor over Houston
St. Johns over Creighton
Washington over Arizona
Wake Forest over Duke
Iowa over Illinois
Virginia Over N.Carolina
Kentucky over Alabama
Nova over Uconn
Texas AM over Tennessee
Realistically I only see Baylor, St Johns, Wake Forest, Virginia and Kentucky winning.
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Teams to cheer for today.
Baylor over Houston
St. Johns over Creighton
Washington over Arizona
Wake Forest over Duke
Iowa over Illinois
Virginia Over N.Carolina
Kentucky over Alabama
Nova over Uconn
Texas AM over Tennessee
Realistically I only see Baylor, St Johns, Wake Forest, Virginia and Kentucky winning.
Don't think I agree about Baylor over Houston. When people speculate about our potential path to a 1 its to replace AZ not Houston. They're pretty well locked into a 1 right now. Baylor's looking like a 3, but if you add a win of that quality to their resume, they'd be getting closer to that 2 line. I'd rather all the currently project 3's and 4's rack up a few more losses to continue to give us a little breathing room on the 2 line.
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If NOVA can somehow pull a win out today we would control our destiny for the Big East Title.
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Texas AM over Tennessee
buzz owes us and if anyone can do this-he wants to dance on the checker board
wake forest giving 2.5 at home to duke-this is going to be a battle
Az will NOT lose 2nd straight home game...to washington of all teams
take iowa getting 9.5 but they will not win at illinois
baylor's new arena is a mega phone of fans volume funneled to floor-houston could pee themselves
big game for kentucky to define themselves at home
kansas is a paper #9
i like the johnnies at home over creighton-take the points at least, rick has rallied the troops
feel sorry for nova-uconn coming off their butt-hurt loss to creighton are going to throttle nova at home
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rocket
It looks like you have some winners there. I like Baylor and SJU today.
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Teams to cheer for today.
Baylor over Houston
St. Johns over Creighton
Washington over Arizona
Wake Forest over Duke
Iowa over Illinois
Virginia Over N.Carolina
Kentucky over Alabama
Nova over Uconn
Texas AM over Tennessee
Realistically I only see Baylor, St Johns, Wake Forest, Virginia and Kentucky winning.
I agree with DJO about Baylor. I think we want those teams on the 3 line to lose.
The most important result today imo is UVA beating UNC. I have no idea why UNC is 5 in the top 16, but the Cavs beating them would be helpful.
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I guarantee you St. John’s will not beat Creighton today, because they play tomorrow.
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Maybe it's my bias, and I haven’t watched it for some time, but College GameDay on ESPN is horrible television.
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Maybe it's my bias, and I haven’t watched it for some time, but College GameDay on ESPN is horrible television.
Can't remember the last time I've watched it. I feel like I haven't been missing out.
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Can't remember the last time I've watched it. I feel like I haven't been missing out.
You're not Cheebs. I mean Rece Davis and Bilas are fine but the rest of these people are terrible.
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Maybe it's my bias, and I haven’t watched it for some time, but College GameDay on ESPN is horrible television.
It’s mostly empty minded hype. I haven’t watched any pregame show in about 30 years. They’re all terrible. Bunch of chuckleheads.
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It’s mostly empty minded hype. I haven’t watched any pregame show in about 30 years. They’re all terrible. Bunch of chuckleheads.
Jay Williams in particular really bothers me Hutch.
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Jay Williams in particular really bothers me Hutch.
He was on the Kentucky/LSU game the other night and didn’t care for him doing game analysis.
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Surprised that Baylor’s new arena only seat 7,000.
When you take a step back, it’s remarkable how important basketball is at Marquette.
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Damn, Houston is really good.
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Damn, Houston is really good.
They have major shooting droughts. This zone is weak from Baylor and Houston can get a wide open corner three at will. They missed a few and are now a bit hesitant. If Houston's guards shoot relatively well they're a very dangerous team.
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That Frosh on Baylor is a stud.
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Houston is getting a bit rattled.
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Wow. Didn't get it off.
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Houston is getting a bit rattled.
Heckuva a comeback by Baylor. Fun game
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You knew the big Baylor kid was gonna miss. What a shot by Shead ... but .1 too late - OT.
Regardless of the result, what we've seen this week is that Houston is not some unbeatable juggernaut ... UConn is not some unbeatable juggernaut ... Purdue is not some unbeatable juggernaut.
They are really good teams, maybe even great teams. But although any or all of them could get to the Final Four, any or all of them definitely could have the same kind of result last year's #1 seeds had.
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That Frosh on Baylor is a stud.
Lottery pick.
Jalen Bridges, a top Wojo target, who went to West Virginia with big half.
Houston’s roster makeup is real good. Top 30, 70, 100, 135 and a top portal guy. Sampson develops players. Especially defense.
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Was that a gtend?
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Was that a gtend?
Yeah
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I don't mind this result. I think we want the 3 seeds to lose.
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St. Thomas at South Dakota State today. A loss eliminates the Tommies from a chance at a conference title.
Important game for Marquette’s cause.
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St. Thomas at South Dakota State today. A loss eliminates the Tommies from a chance at a conference title.
Important game for Marquette’s cause.
They only care about a Big East title.
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They only care about a Big East title.
Tommies up 7 at half.
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You knew the big Baylor kid was gonna miss. What a shot by Shead ... but .1 too late - OT.
Regardless of the result, what we've seen this week is that Houston is not some unbeatable juggernaut ... UConn is not some unbeatable juggernaut ... Purdue is not some unbeatable juggernaut.
They are really good teams, maybe even great teams. But although any or all of them could get to the Final Four, any or all of them definitely could have the same kind of result last year's #1 seeds had.
There hasn’t been an unbeatable team in college basketball in almost 50 years. And parity in the sport is only growing.
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Let's go Wake!!!!!
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Omg what an idiotic pass! Muggsy must be extremely unhappy.
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Ty Wake and Scheyer. No time outs for Duke to finish the game. :)
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Ty Wake and Scheyer. No time outs for Duke to finish the game. :)
More good in game coaching from Scheyer. 👀
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That is why court storming needs to stop
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Oh....boy. Fillipowski may have gotten hurt on the court storm.
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Oh....boy. Fillipowski may have gotten hurt on the court storm.
And there goes the last court storm we’ll ever see
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now you're going to hear about fans rushing the floor-did the fans contribute to filipowski injury?
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And there goes the last court storm we’ll ever see
Yeah this is gonna be a headline in a few hours
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That is why court storming needs to stop
I agree.
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I guess one way to stop court storming would be to implement a new rule that it’s an auto two shot technical even after the game is over.
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now you're going to hear about fans rushing the floor-did the fans contribute to filipowski injury?
100%. Wake student direct collision and then he needed help getting off the court in the mayhem. I’m not joking, would not be surprised if court storms get fully banned. Duke ruins everything
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If he was truly hurt during the court storming you might see the school get the largest fine in court storming history
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I don't recall this many court storms in any other year. Seemed like a rarity now it's every day and not necessarily against great teams. Too much of it with two big time players getting hit seems like a recipe for the powers that be getting upset.
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Already got the push notification on my phone from ESPN about him getting hurt during the court storming
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I guess one way to stop court storming would be to implement a new rule that it’s an auto two shot technical even after the game is over.
I think it can be done with huge fines. Or the easiest thing would be forfeiting two home games?
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Congrats to UVA for having 4 total points on their home floor in almost 10 mins.
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Congrats to UVA for having 4 total points on their home floor in almost 10 mins.
6 through 12
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I think it can be done with huge fines. Or the easiest thing would be forfeiting two home games?
Players should be able to use chairs to bash fans over the head that storm the court
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St. Thomas down 4 with 6 minutes left
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Players should be able to use chairs to bash fans over the head that storm the court
Just turn it into wwf royal rumble
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Congrats to UVA for having 4 total points on their home floor in almost 10 mins.
Working hard to make court-storming unnecessary.
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Players should be able to use chairs to bash fans over the head that storm the court
That sounds reasonable. :)
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St. Thomas hurting Marquette’s chances
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Yeah this is gonna be a headline in a few hours
Literally got the headline push from CBS Sports App as I read this post.
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I think it can be done with huge fines. Or the easiest thing would be forfeiting two home games?
Just implement the FiFo SWAT team approach
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Just implement the FiFo SWAT team approach
Does that involve rubber bullets or tear gas ?
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Does that involve rubber bullets or tear gas ?
They were packing for the BE celebration last year.
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Just said on ESPN Kyle filipowski sprained his ankle.
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St. Thomas with a devastating loss
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Just said on ESPN Kyle filipowski sprained his ankle.
That was just dumb luck that it wasn't a lot worse.
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That was just dumb luck that it wasn't a lot worse.
Yea glad it wasn’t anything worse. When they showed the overhead view you have to wonder how he even managed to get out and not stomped on like a stampede
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Yea glad it wasn’t anything worse. When they showed the overhead view you have to wonder how he even managed to get out and not stomped on like a stampede
ACC officials are going to make Louisville pay dearly for this.
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Zona will not be a #1. I'm more concerned with Tennessee.
Lost
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Should ban court storming but Scheyer did a poor job protecting his team. The only thing he should have told them in the timeout with 1 second down 4 is to stay by the sideline and get off the floor quickly.
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St. Thomas with a devastating loss
Effen Tommies just cost us a 1 seed.
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Players should be able to use chairs to bash fans over the head that storm the court
I agree with this assessment.
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I agree with this assessment.
So does Bob Knight
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Should ban court storming but Scheyer did a poor job protecting his team. The only thing he should have told them in the timeout with 1 second down 4 is to stay by the sideline and get off the floor quickly.
The fault is 100% on WF and their fans. They should have to forfeit a game for any game that Filipowski misses.
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Kentucky up 33 on Bama. Another good result for MU?
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Should ban court storming but Scheyer did a poor job protecting his team. The only thing he should have told them in the timeout with 1 second down 4 is to stay by the sideline and get off the floor quickly.
I agree with this. If Wake was going to win today, there was a 100% chance of a court storm happening. They’re down 4 with 1.8 left, ball out of bounds under their own basket.
Duke is not going to win that game, the students are about to erupt, anyone and everyone knew it was coming. Why put your starters in a difficult spot there? WF isn’t obviously blameless here, but sitting watching from my couch, I knew it was going to be a mad rush by the students.
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Rather pour bleach in my eyes than ever watch Virginia again
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Kentucky up 33 on Bama. Another good result for MU?
Yes…….impressive defensive performance by Alabama……I think they got at least 1 stop at some point……but I could be wrong.
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Yes…….impressive defensive performance by Alabama……I think they got at least 1 stop at some point……but I could be wrong.
Virginia offense vs. Alabama defense
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The fault is 100% on WF and their fans. They should have to forfeit a game for any game that Filipowski misses.
Fault 100% sits with Duke. Win the game and no one is on the floor..
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Fault 100% sits with Duke. Win the game and no one is on the floor..
Well done!
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The fault is 100% on WF and their fans. They should have to forfeit a game for any game that Filipowski misses.
::)
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Well done!
Honestly I put this on Duke.
1 - don’t lose
2 - get off the floor like basically every other team
3 - don’t shove a fan
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Honestly I put this on Duke.
1 - don’t lose
2 - get off the floor like basically every other team
3 - don’t shove a fan
Not condoning what happened, but Fillipowski is a big whiner.
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Rather pour bleach in my eyes than ever watch Virginia again
Don't do that. Instead, just watch the clothes go back and forth during the wash cycle of your washing machine. It's a lot more interesting than UVA bball.
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Not condoning what happened, but Fillipowski is a big whiner.
He’s the villain college basketball needs now. Getting carried off the floor was prime comedy.
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ASU about to beat Wash St. Lol.
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Rather pour bleach in my eyes than ever watch Virginia again
It’s root canal without anesthesia. Got hot down the stretch to get into the 40s.
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Heckuva effort from Buzz’s team
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Heckuva effort from Buzz’s team
Lol.
Buzz to DePaul?
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Lol.
Buzz to DePaul?
Year 5 at College Station. Looking at a missed tourney. No tourney wins in his time there. Don’t mess with happy and flush your own turds
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Year 5 at College Station. Looking at a missed tourney. No tourney wins in his time there. Don’t mess with happy and flush your own turds
Jeff Goodman article on Buzz in the works…
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Not condoning what happened, but Fillipowski is a big whiner.
Yeah “targeted” please!
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The fault is 100% on WF and their fans. They should have to forfeit a game for any game that Filipowski misses.
Lots of Scoopers defend court storming and consider it an essential part of the college experience. Silly, yes, but there it is.
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Year 5 at College Station. Looking at a missed tourney. No tourney wins in his time there. Don’t mess with happy and flush your own turds
I would think there will be a lot of job openings next year.
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Lots of Scoopers defend court storming and consider it an essential part of the college experience. Silly, yes, but there it is.
Court stormings are cool. Sorry you are such a joyless dimwit.
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That was just dumb luck that it wasn't a lot worse.
Really it’s too bad he wasn’t permanently maimed. That would have been the best outcome for all involved.
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Court stormings are cool. Sorry you are such a joyless dimwit.
I’m sure it made you feel (momentarily) like one of the “cool” guys when you did it. Waking up the next morning still a hopeless dork must have been difficult for you.
It was equal parts fun, stupid and potentially dangerous- like a lot of things we all did in college. That it still personifies “joy” to you is as sad as it is shallow.
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Calling me a dork because I think court stormings are fun says way more about you and your joyless soul than it does about anything else. Might as well just shrivel up and drop yourself in the Gulf by this point. You no longer serve a purpose.
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Lots of Scoopers defend court storming and consider it an essential part of the college experience. Silly, yes, but there it is.
I’m sure these people would support a thousand people charging into their workplace, bowling over anything in site.
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Calling me a dork because I think court stormings are fun says way more about you and your joyless soul than it does about anything else. Might as well just shrivel up and drop yourself in the Gulf by this point. You no longer serve a purpose.
Do you support 🦬 🦬 🦬 🦬 🦬 🦬 stampeding at your family gatherings?
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I can't figure out why there would be a court storm in a game with like a 2pt spread.
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Calling me a dork because I think court stormings are fun says way more about you and your joyless soul than it does about anything else. Might as well just shrivel up and drop yourself in the Gulf by this point. You no longer serve a purpose.
I call you a dork because tens of thousands of posts here prove that you are. That a court storming was a high point of your college experience only adds to volumes of evidence.
Now go drink 20 beers and puke all over yourself. After you clean up the mess you made in your basement you can reminisce about how “cool” the experience was.
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I can't figure out why there would be a court storm in a game with like a 2pt spread.
A big reason is because of the (useless, doesn’t matter, should get rid of it) AP poll.
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I’m sure these people would support a thousand people charging into their workplace, bowling over anything in site.
Sultan would be happy to finally have some company.
They could hang out, have fun and be cool together.
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A big reason is because of the (useless, doesn’t matter, should get rid of it) AP poll.
I understand what you're saying but it does generate interest. I don't see them getting rid of the polls any time soon.
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I can't figure out why there would be a court storm in a game with like a 2pt spread.
These days a bubble team or worse knocking off a top 10 team at home is a near auto court storm. Virtual lock when the upset team is a program as hated as Duke
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Do you support 🦬 🦬 🦬 🦬 🦬 🦬 stampeding at your family gatherings?
No because I shoot them for sport, fun to watch them fall on their side.
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I call you a dork because tens of thousands of posts here prove that you are. That a court storming was a high point of your college experience only adds to volumes of evidence.
Now go drink 20 beers and puke all over yourself. After you clean up the mess you made in your basement you can reminisce about how “cool” the experience was.
Wow! Lenny on fire.
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I call you a dork because tens of thousands of posts here prove that you are. That a court storming was a high point of your college experience only adds to volumes of evidence.
Now go drink 20 beers and puke all over yourself. After you clean up the mess you made in your basement you can reminisce about how “cool” the experience was.
lol. What are you even talking about?
Court stormings are fun. That is how they are treated by the schools and the media networks. Now dimwits like you are all up in arms about them because a poor Dookie got hurt.
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Wow! Lenny on fire.
😂😂😂 Bitter ole mope thinks another bitter ole mope is “on fire.”
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Do you support 🦬 🦬 🦬 🦬 🦬 🦬 stampeding at your family gatherings?
Yes
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Did MU have a court storm when they beat #1 Villanova? When MU beats UConn, should there be a court storm or should the students act as if they have been there before?
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I call you a dork because tens of thousands of posts here prove that you are. That a court storming was a high point of your college experience only adds to volumes of evidence.
Now go drink 20 beers and puke all over yourself. After you clean up the mess you made in your basement you can reminisce about how “cool” the experience was.
This is a case where 2 things can be true. Sultan is in fact a dork and also, court storming are fun.
The fans are the game. Without that atmosphere, college basketball loses so much luster.
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This is a case where 2 things can be true. Sultan is in fact a dork and also, court storming are fun.
The fans are the game. Without that atmosphere, college basketball loses so much luster.
Exactly. I’m a dork and court stormings are fun.
Unless you are a grumpy ole mope like Lenny.
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Did MU have a court storm when they beat #1 Villanova? When MU beats UConn, should there be a court storm or should the students act as if they have been there before?
We did storm the court against Nova. I doubt we'd do it against UCONN.
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Did MU have a court storm when they beat #1 Villanova? When MU beats UConn, should there be a court storm or should the students act as if they have been there before?
I think MU is at a level where beating UConn, if they are not number one or MU does not tie them for a regular season title, does not warrant a court storm.
Wake Forest court storming Duke indicates an inferior basketball program beating a better one. Number 17 Kentucky getting stormed by LSU indicates the same thing.
Fortunately MU is in a better position than that and acts like they have been there unless something truly special happens.
In 89 it was fun and stupid all at the same time. But it indicated who was the inferior program at the time more than anything.
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I think MU is at a level where beating UConn, if they are not number one or MU does not tie them for a regular season title, does not warrant a court storm.
Wake Forest court storming Duke indicates an inferior basketball program beating a better one. Number 17 Kentucky getting stormed by LSU indicates the same thing.
Fortunately MU is in a better position than that and acts like they have been there unless something truly special happens.
In 89 it was fun and stupid all at the same time. But it indicated who was the inferior program at the time more than anything.
You are assuming way too much rational thinking is involved here.
It all depends on how the game plays out. If the UConn game is emotional, with a close last minute win, I could see it. But likely not. The '89 one was dumb, but it was more cathartic with the promise of the O'Neill era.
But apparently I had 20 beers and puked all over myself, so what do I know.
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UCLA back to dead
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I can't figure out why there would be a court storm in a game with like a 2pt spread.
Because the schools are close in proximity and Wake Forest has generally stunk since the Duncan days of the mid 90’s, while Duke has been going to Final Fours and winning championships during that time. Plus, it’s Duke. Universally disliked if you’re not for them.
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While a player getting injured from a court storm is not good, I think there’s an overreaction to this one incident. There’s lots of court storms every year and very few, if any opposing coaches or players ever injured because of them.
I saw ACC is the only major conference without any sanction when one happens.
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You are assuming way too much rational thinking is involved here.
It all depends on how the game plays out. If the UConn game is emotional, with a close last minute win, I could see it. But likely not. The '89 one was dumb, but it was more cathartic with the promise of the O'Neill era.
But apparently I had 20 beers and puked all over myself, so what do I know.
I think you nailed it about 89. It was cathartic. And that’s what a lot of these court storms are. Schools get beat downs for years by some programs and finally beating them causes a euphoria that leads to a court storm. They are a part of the game for sure. But it does seem a little to frequent now.
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Why isn’t anyone concerned about the student filipowski intentionally tripped?
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I think you nailed it about 89. It was cathartic. And that’s what a lot of these court storms are. Schools get beat downs for years by some programs and finally beating them causes a euphoria that leads to a court storm. They are a part of the game for sure. But it does seem a little to frequent now.
Likely because the way they are covered by the media, and even by the schools themselves, promotes them.
For instance...
https://x.com/WakeForestSP/status/1761502125090079006?s=20
And this is even after they have their athletic director's statement of apology posted on the same timeline!
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You are assuming way too much rational thinking is involved here.
It all depends on how the game plays out. If the UConn game is emotional, with a close last minute win, I could see it. But likely not. The '89 one was dumb, but it was more cathartic with the promise of the O'Neill era.
But apparently I had 20 beers and puked all over myself, so qwhat do I know.
If you made it to 20 beers before you puked, mad respect.
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Likely because the way they are covered by the media, and even by the schools themselves, promotes them.
For instance...
https://x.com/WakeForestSP/status/1761502125090079006?s=20
And this is even after they have their athletic director's statement of apology posted on the same timeline!
No doubt. The court storm in 89 was the advertisement for season tickets the next year. I have a picture of it.
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Court stormings are fun. That is how they are treated by the schools and the media networks. Now dimwits like you are all up in arms about them because a poor Dookie got hurt.
Yeah, it’s OK because the guy who was hurt was from Duke. Talk about a dimwit.
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Yeah, it’s OK because the guy who was hurt was from Duke. Talk about a dimwit.
It actually is too bad he wasn't killed.
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If you made it to 20 beers before you puked, mad respect.
Especially since it was an afternoon game.
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Especially since it was an afternoon game.
Day-umm
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Court stormings are cool. Sorry you are such a joyless dimwit.
really?
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really?
Yes.
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I didn't watch the end if the game but did Creighton court storm when they beat UCONN?
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Did MU have a court storm when they beat #1 Villanova? When MU beats UConn, should there be a court storm or should the students act as if they have been there before?
I say no…we’ve been there before. Let someone storm us…but not us on them.
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I didn't watch the end if the game but did Creighton court storm when they beat UCONN?
Yes
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Yes
Yeah, it was pathetic. Thought Creighton was a better program than that.
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Regardless of yesterday at Wake, I've always thought a court storm should be for a huge upset. if we do it on March 6th I think that's stupid. Just my take.
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I stormed the field when ND beat Florida State in 1993. I was there to see 1 vs 2 and bet big on FSU, which I lost. Figured it likely be the only time I would see 1 vs 2 and storm the field at ND. I would have preferred winning my bet, but a memory nonetheless.
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Regardless of yesterday at Wake, I've always thought a court storm should be for a huge upset. if we do it on March 6th I think that's stupid. Just my take.
If Marquette students storm the court on March 6, it’d be embarrassing
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If Marquette students storm the court on March 6, it’d be embarrassing
If we win, you can count on a court storming by Marquette students. They will act just like other students when their team upsets a highly ranked team. And yes, it would be an upset, even though not a huge one.
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If we win, you can count on a court storming by Marquette students. They will act just like other students when their team upsets a highly ranked team. And yes, it would be an upset, even though not a huge one.
Pathetic, really. Beating UConn and not storming the court would say more about where Marquette is
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If you made it to 20 beers before you puked, mad respect.
Disagree, if you only drink 20 beers during a Marquette game, you may as well sit at Mecca bar and cheer for Bucky. ;D Lightweights. /s
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Pathetic, really. Beating UConn and not storming the court would say more about where Marquette is
Ha! Stirring the pot!
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Important games for Marquette’s cause today:
Quinnipiac at Rider: A Rider win helps Marquette’s cause
PFW at UWM: A PFW win justifies Marquette ducking UWM
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Ha! Stirring the pot!
Is it? They beat UConn twice last year. I don’t care if they’re 1 or 2 when they play them. If you’re a national title contender, you don’t rush the court when you beat another good team.
Do Kansas fans rush the court when they beat good teams?
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Pathetic, really. Beating UConn and not storming the court would say more about where Marquette is
Oh, I agree. Just saying that I expect it to happen if we win. I would be very happy if we won and there was no court storming.
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Pathetic, really. Beating UConn and not storming the court would say more about where Marquette is
Whether kids storm the court or don't storm the court really says nothing about where Marquette is.
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Whether kids storm the court or don't storm the court really says nothing about where Marquette is.
Perception is reality.
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Why isn’t anyone concerned about the student filipowski intentionally tripped?
I noticed that too. 👀
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Here is the take in The Athletic's morning e-newsletter:
We're all for fun, and we'll always defend fans who celebrate a victory however they want — as long as it's safe for everybody. On that last note:
Yesterday, we saw a Duke star injured when fans of Wake Forest (the favored team, actually) stormed the court. Kyle Filipowski, the injured Blue Devil, called for change.
This comes a few weeks after none other than Caitlin Clark got trucked by an Ohio State fan rushing the court in Columbus.
And social media clout-chasers have even taken to taunting football players to their faces immediately after heated upsets. Deeply unwise.
We get it. Storming the court is a blast, no matter whether some grinch thinks the victory was monumental enough or not.
But when college athletes are getting knocked over and harassed, it's time to reassess. (Maybe we accept it's gonna happen, but add a dramatic countdown so players can get outta there first?)
I'm not sure about the possible solution at the end, but the tone of this is pretty much where I'm at. I'm one who has defended court-storming as a fun thing that college kids get to do (and only fairly rarely, really). But I am also about keeping the athletes and coaches safe, so maybe something has to be done. I haven't thought enough about a potential solution.
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Is it? They beat UConn twice last year. I don’t care if they’re 1 or 2 when they play them. If you’re a national title contender, you don’t rush the court when you beat another good team.
Do Kansas fans rush the court when they beat good teams?
Oh, I’m on your side on this one. I’ve stated it’s something inferior programs do too often. I’m more arrogant about MU than that. But we are not Kansas either.
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I'm not sure about the possible solution at the end, but the tone of this is pretty much where I'm at. I'm one who has defended court-storming as a fun thing that college kids get to do (and only fairly rarely, really). But I am also about keeping the athletes and coaches safe, so maybe something has to be done. I haven't thought enough about a potential solution.
Electrified fencing does a great job at keeping livestock from leaving the farms around here. Once they bump into it, they carefully avoid it. I've bumped into it myself. JEEZUS!
Seriously...how can storming be prevented? Pumped up college students are not known for following rules or guidelines.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=agrQLfKcDhw
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Situation should have never happened. Period.
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I blame Duke. Don’t lose and it won’t happen.
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Electrified fencing does a great job at keeping livestock from leaving the farms around here. Once they bump into it, they carefully avoid it. I've bumped into it myself. JEEZUS!
Seriously...how can storming be prevented? Pumped up college students are not known for following rules or guidelines.
Someone posted here that it should be an automatic tech with 2 FTs awarded to the road team. An interesting idea that would only help in games decided by 1or 2 points.
Otherwise i think the only option is requiring schools to hire a massive amount of security and put up barricades any time a top 10 team comes to town.
I'm not sure theres a way to allow it with zero risk. Maybe making an announcement at the last dead ball or as the home team is dribbling it out (if it's not a close game) that security will be blocking people from entering the court at the buzzer but will allow them through after the other team is off the court. Honestly doesn't seem logistically sound
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It’s not enforceable that’s why nothing can be done. Even if you have a perimeter of security linked arms you are trying to stop literally thousands of college kids, most that have been drinking from rushing the court.
Nothings been done because it’s impossible to stop it kids choose to rush, once there is a chink in the armor it’s going to break
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=agrQLfKcDhw
Can’t blame Filipkowski. There are thousands of people sprinting towards to not caring about where you are. Have to have some kind of self defense there.
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Someone posted here that it should be an automatic tech with 2 FTs awarded to the road team. An interesting idea that would only help in games decided by 1or 2 points.
Otherwise i think the only option is requiring schools to hire a massive amount of security and put up barricades any time a top 10 team comes to town.
I'm not sure theres a way to allow it with zero risk. Maybe making an announcement at the last dead ball or as the home team is dribbling it out (if it's not a close game) that security will be blocking people from entering the court at the buzzer but will allow them through after the other team is off the court. Honestly doesn't seem logistically sound
Honestly that's probably close to the best option. My friends and I were courtside in the student section against Cinci in '02. It was clear we were going to win and the buzz was going around that we were going to storm - we told the ushers and everyone was really conscientious about making sure no one got knocked down - although a few idiots from the other side of the student section did run on while the clock was still ticking. If you watch the video (1:31:00) the players were also pretty into it - although a few of them did get grabbed/pushed around a bit (including D-wade who kind of had to make an escape). I don't remember anyone caring about the cinci players at all - everyone rushed to the center and their bench was away from the student section.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh1p8BAhVtQ
But - the problem I suppose is that if it is officially "sanctioned" (even after players who want to have cleared the court) then that probably implies some additional liability.
It's a real conundrum - court storming is one of the last few spontaneous-fan-led-non-corporatized-monetized-aspects of the sport. Because it happens rarely and spontaneously it is really special when it happens.
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Can’t blame Filipkowski. There are thousands of people sprinting towards to not caring about where you are. Have to have some kind of self defense there.
I agree. I just posted since it was a good look at what happened. It does disprove Filipowski’s claim that the kid intentionally hit him.
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The first kid, the one who hit his knee, taunted him. After Filipowski was knocked off balance, a second WF student clearly pushed/punched him in the back.
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The first kid, the one who hit his knee, taunted him. After Filipowski was knocked off balance, a second WF student clearly pushed/punched him in the back.
*the first kid who filipowski tripped.
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The first kid who Filipiwski fended off.
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The first kid who Filipiwski fended off.
https://x.com/boogiewoogie690/status/1761512411113099513?s=46&t=el-XnIMOEDcxAw3lmg3L5A
Tripped and pushed
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Stood his ground against the taunting kid running up on him.
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Stood his ground against the taunting kid running up on him.
Extended his arm and leg as kid ran past him.
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Yes, he did. Fended him off. I will not change your mind, you shan't change mine.
Peace, out.
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Yes, he did. Fended him off. I will not change your mind, you shan't change mine.
Peace, out.
I guess someone fends off a non aggressor by pushing and tripping them.
He lingers on the floor when everything and their mother knows wake kids will be on the floor, intentionally trips a kid, gets “hurt”, and crybaby coach complains after the game. Supposedly morally superior fans defend him. Duke is so, so back!
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The first kid, the one who hit his knee, taunted him. After Filipowski was knocked off balance, a second WF student clearly pushed/punched him in the back.
Taunted him? Not sure how you can tell. Besides, Filipowski said he intentionally collided with him. He didn’t. The push in the back was intentional.
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Taunted him? Not sure how you can tell. Besides, Filipowski said he intentionally collided with him. He didn’t. The push in the back was intentional.
They come on the court, players should clock them. Too bad he didn’t injure the fan
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They come on the court, players should clock them. Too bad he didn’t injure the fan
Filipowski agrees with you - too bad he channeled his inner Grayson Allen
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Filipowski agrees with you - too bad he channeled his inner Grayson Allen
Yeah, it was weak. He should have done a Kermit Washington to the kid instead. Maybe next time
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Yeah, it was weak. He should have done a Kermit Washington to the kid instead. Maybe next time
I really have no problem with what filipowski did. I do have a problem with the clowns who claim he’s a victim with clear video evidence proving otherwise.
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Yeah, it was weak. He should have done a Kermit Washington to the kid instead. Maybe next time
North Carolina is a Stand Your Ground state.
Just sayin'
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North Carolina is a Stand Your Ground state.
Just sayin'
Probably a gun free zone
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Probably a gun free zone
Definitely a fun free zone. SMH
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They come on the court, players should clock them. Too bad he didn’t injure the fan
Doesn’t seem like a prudent move outnumbered 5,000 to 12, but to each his own. My point is simply that Filipowski claimed it was an intentional collision. It wasn’t.
The fault here is in Wake and the ACC.
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If you made it to 20 beers before you puked, mad respect.
Seriously?? With the day drinking that the weekend brought 20 was no big deal. You ran with a different crew.
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The USF coach should be considered for NCOY. That's a pretty good team btw.
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FAU should be firmly on the bubble. Their resume is terrible.
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PFW up 8 on UWM
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There was a game this week - I think it was LSU over Kentucky - where the winning basket was scored on a rebound after a blocked shot. The ball went in, the buzzer sounded and the fans stormed the court.
I'm quite certain that there were fractions of a second left after the ball cleared the net - maybe .2 to .4 - and had the fans not stormed the court, the game would not have been over. But with fans everywhere, the refs didn't even think about resuming the game. So I guess congrats to the fans for clinching the win!
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Someone posted here that it should be an automatic tech with 2 FTs awarded to the road team. An interesting idea that would only help in games decided by 1or 2 points.
Otherwise i think the only option is requiring schools to hire a massive amount of security and put up barricades any time a top 10 team comes to town.
I'm not sure theres a way to allow it with zero risk. Maybe making an announcement at the last dead ball or as the home team is dribbling it out (if it's not a close game) that security will be blocking people from entering the court at the buzzer but will allow them through after the other team is off the court. Honestly doesn't seem logistically sound
As soon as a post game court storming causes a technical foul, and a subsequent loss, the rule is going to be roasted all over the place.
Its hard to hire enough security staff to keep a crowd off the floor, and I certainly don't think those people should be empowered to use any violence to enforce the rule.
How about an agreement by broadcasters not to cover it, schools not to promote it, and schools fining and/or rescinding the tickets of those who do it.
Anyway, it doesn't happen in the NBA or NFL so it can be enforced.
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How much longer does Memphis stick with Penny? https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39590076/memphis-malcolm-dandridge-tigers-look-eligibility (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39590076/memphis-malcolm-dandridge-tigers-look-eligibility)
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UWM on their way to a big win. Definitely have a chance to win the Horizon tourney and make the dance.
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Big win for UWM
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Izzo loses Heartbreakers at buzzer!!! Lol
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Izzo loses Heartbreakers at buzzer!!! Lol
Seth Davis not pleased.
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Seth Davis not pleased.
He’ll move them up in the rankings because that kind of loss is good for adversity
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He’ll move them up in the rankings because that kind of loss is good for adversity
😆
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After Purdue and Illinois, the big ten sucks!
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Sounds like Izzo didn’t play the frosh big man to close the game and he had a good game going
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Buzz to Mich. St!!!
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Buzz to Mich. St!!!
I didn’t think so but that job might open. Rumblings out there he might be ready to retire. Don’t believe them but they sure would be a frustrating team to coach
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Thanks Ohio St. Basketball.
Sincerely,
Everyone
Nice week for Izzo and Mich St. :)
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I didn’t think so but that job might open. Rumblings out there he might be ready to retire. Don’t believe them but they sure would be a frustrating team to coach
I heard a reporter (can't remember who) that spoke to Izzo this week and he confirmed he will be back.
Obviously, he has reached the point where this will be a conversation every year going forward. The end is near but not this year.
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https://x.com/boogiewoogie690/status/1761512411113099513?s=46&t=el-XnIMOEDcxAw3lmg3L5A
Tripped and pushed
Listen to Tower. Your video was in slow motion. In real time, the kid was coming at him and he was defending himself. I commend Filipowski for not taking the kid out.
I can only imagine what the reaction would be if Creighton upsets MU and a student runs into Oso and Oso tears up his knee. All these people defending these idiotic students would be calling for the DA in Omaha to charge the guilty party with assault.
The floor belongs to the players. Anyone running on the floor without permission is putting themselves in harm's way and bears 100% responsibility.
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There is a really interesting case happening in the AAC. You have South Florida 21-5 ranked #25, you have FAU 21-7, make last years final four, unranked.
South Florida Net of 100
FAU Net of 58.
There is a good chance both teams win out bringing the records to 24-5 and 24-7 respectively. Neither net is even close to worthy of making the tournament. One team will more than likely be left out if they do not win the conference tournament. So you are either leaving out a team that could push top 20 ranking or leave out a team that made last years final four with basically the same team. Yes, I know last years team means nothing but it does make this scenario very interesting.
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There is a really interesting case happening in the AAC. You have South Florida 21-5 ranked #25, you have FAU 21-7, make last years final four, unranked.
South Florida Net of 100
FAU Net of 58.
There is a good chance both teams win out bringing the records to 24-5 and 24-7 respectively. Neither net is even close to worthy of making the tournament. One team will more than likely be left out if they do not win the conference tournament. So you are either leaving out a team that could push top 20 ranking or leave out a team that made last years final four with basically the same team. Yes, I know last years team means nothing but it does make this scenario very interesting.
FAU Net is 37
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There is a really interesting case happening in the AAC. You have South Florida 21-5 ranked #25, you have FAU 21-7, make last years final four, unranked.
South Florida Net of 100
FAU Net of 58.
There is a good chance both teams win out bringing the records to 24-5 and 24-7 respectively. Neither net is even close to worthy of making the tournament. One team will more than likely be left out if they do not win the conference tournament. So you are either leaving out a team that could push top 20 ranking or leave out a team that made last years final four with basically the same team. Yes, I know last years team means nothing but it does make this scenario very interesting.
AP rankings no matta
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Bilas is usually smart and insightful, but this is an incredibly dumb idea.
Curious to hear his thoughts on the logistics of arresting a few hundred people (or more) all at once. Will arenas need holding cells? A few dozen cops patrolling the sidelines?
https://awfulannouncing.com/college-basketball/jay-bilas-espn-arrest-court-stormers.html
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Yes. I am sure there will be no outrage whatsoever when a university helps to detain and cite a few hundred of its students.
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Yes. I am sure there will be no outrage whatsoever when a university helps to detain and cite a few hundred of its students.
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A few hundred lol more like a few thousand. There's not a chance they don't run. I know its been a few years since Bilas played but did he forget how college kids act?
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Let's just face it. This didn't become an issue for Bilas until it became an issue for Duke.
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Yes. I am sure there will be no outrage whatsoever when a university helps to detain and cite a few hundred of its students.
And I'm sure police departments would be eager to get involved. They've got nothing more important to deal with.
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Let's just face it. This didn't become an issue for Bilas until it became an issue for Duke.
Lets also face the fact that both Clarke and Filipowski initialed the contact in both instances and sold it like a flop.
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And I'm sure police departments would be eager to get involved. They've got nothing more important to deal with.
Cops usually turn a blind eye to crimes committed by basketball players
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Kam on how to stop court storming
https://twitter.com/csgkam/status/1762276377112232229?t=GjbPGyt8h2WMbDPMMK-Pcw&s=19
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Kam on how to stop court storming
https://twitter.com/csgkam/status/1762276377112232229?t=GjbPGyt8h2WMbDPMMK-Pcw&s=19
Love it. Smart and 100% accurate.
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North Carolina is so bad it’s a disgrace they are even close to a 1 seed.
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Kstate lead 48-26 at the half
They are losing the 2nd half 53-29
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North Carolina is so bad it’s a disgrace they are even close to a 1 seed.
Ridiculous. Congrats to them for holding on and beating Miami.
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Ridiculous. Congrats to them for holding on and beating Miami.
At least they didn’t lose to St. Thomas
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At least they didn’t lose to St. Thomas
That game’s gonna cost us two seed lines.
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Let's just face it. This didn't become an issue for Bilas until it became an issue for Duke.
Like his solution or not (and I don't), Bilas has spoken against storming the court for quite some time - including a few weeks ago when Caitlin Clark got run into by a fan ... which obviously had nothing to do with Duke.
https://www.si.com/college/2024/01/27/jay-bilas-college-basketball-fans-shouldnt-be-allowed-storm-courts
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Like his solution or not (and I don't), Bilas has spoken against storming the court for quite some time - including a few weeks ago when Caitlin Clark got run into by a fan ... which obviously had nothing to do with Duke.
https://www.si.com/college/2024/01/27/jay-bilas-college-basketball-fans-shouldnt-be-allowed-storm-courts
You’re wasting your time, Mike. Sultan doesn’t believe in letting the facts interfere with his prejudices.
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Like his solution or not (and I don't), Bilas has spoken against storming the court for quite some time - including a few weeks ago when Caitlin Clark got run into by a fan ... which obviously had nothing to do with Duke.
https://www.si.com/college/2024/01/27/jay-bilas-college-basketball-fans-shouldnt-be-allowed-storm-courts
Well thank you for that. Although his mass arrest solution wasn’t brought up until after the Duke mess.
You’re wasting your time, Mike. Sultan doesn’t believe in letting the facts interfere with his prejudices.
Grumpy ole Lenny with his usual contribution…
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It's not a perfect comparison, but I kind of equate the court-storming thing similar to injuries suffered due to line drives into the stands at MLB games.
Injuries from flying baseballs were quite rare given the number of fans who attended games and the very few injuries those baseballs caused. But there were a few serious instances, including a death IIRC, and MLB mandated that nets be extended all the way to the foul poles. Plenty of people (including our resident uber-troll chicos) protested the decision, calling it unnecessary and saying it would take some away from the ballpark experience.
But the nets went up, and fairly quickly the objections went away, and now the nets are just there.
Few people get hurt in court-stormings, but what's it gonna take to get the stormings stopped? A great player suffering a season-ending injury? A fan getting trampled to death?
Whatever unfortunate incidents were to bring about the ban, it would be met with grumbles and objections at first ... and then the idea of the practice would just fade away.
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So how do you ban court stormings? Its way easier to do with professional leagues - just take their season tickets away. And those closest to the action are usually in corporate seats or have a lot of money, and they aren't going to risk it.
Court stormings and football field stormings are primarily by the students. Are schools going to ban those who enter the court or the field? I just don't see that as realistic.
The efforts should concentrate on protecting the players and coaches.
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It's not a perfect comparison, but I kind of equate the court-storming thing similar to injuries suffered due to line drives into the stands at MLB games.
Injuries from flying baseballs were quite rare given the number of fans who attended games and the very few injuries those baseballs caused. But there were a few serious instances, including a death IIRC, and MLB mandated that nets be extended all the way to the foul poles. Plenty of people (including our resident uber-troll chicos) protested the decision, calling it unnecessary and saying it would take some away from the ballpark experience.
But the nets went up, and fairly quickly the objections went away, and now the nets are just there.
Few people get hurt in court-stormings, but what's it gonna take to get the stormings stopped? A great player suffering a season-ending injury? A fan getting trampled to death?
Whatever unfortunate incidents were to bring about the ban, it would be met with grumbles and objections at first ... and then the idea of the practice would just fade away.
I understand what you're saying but there are wildly different levels of risk involved. I can give you a list of people who literally died because of baseballs in the stands. I'm not sure I can name anyone significantly injured during a court storming before Filipowski (and we don't know how serious his injury is yet). I'm sure injuries have happened before and the risk is there, but I think it's a different level of risk
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So how do you ban court stormings?
Just like the border. When the court is entered, arrest and/or throw out. Maybe the Czar can help out
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I understand what you're saying but there are wildly different levels of risk involved. I can give you a list of people who literally died because of baseballs in the stands. I'm not sure I can name anyone significantly injured during a court storming before Filipowski (and we don't know how serious his injury is yet). I'm sure injuries have happened before and the risk is there, but I think it's a different level of risk
He’s not even injured. Last night the bottom line on ESPN said he was sore and icing it. He’s fine
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It's my understanding that if you run onto a field or court during a game you get a ticket. I'm not aware of many instances where someone has been injured in that situation (Monica Seles is the only one that comes to mind...but that wasn't just someone running on the court -- it was an intentional attack). If it's typical to give someone a ticket for entering the field/court of play in that situation, why is it so ridiculous to suggest ticketing people who run onto the court at the end of the game. I'm not advocating for that position, but I don't think it's a ridiculous proposal.
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For you old school, historian types, the now outdated term 'cagers' in reference to basketball players comes from a time when the game was played inside a virtual cage to protect the players from unruly crowds.
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Some ideas I've heard in the last few days:
-fines, tickets, suspensions, with the most extreme being...
-...If you storm, you get kicked out of school. This would put a stop to a lot of it pretty quickly. Seems a bit extra though.
-Build in a 30 second waiting period after the game. Make announcements before the end of the game and have another post-game countdown clock. Let the other team off the court, then let the fans on. This would help with the scary injuries but would take away some of the spontaneity and anticipation.
Or, just do what Kam Jones said. If you don't want to get court stormed, don't lose.
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It's my understanding that if you run onto a field or court during a game you get a ticket. I'm not aware of many instances where someone has been injured in that situation (Monica Seles is the only one that comes to mind...but that wasn't just someone running on the court -- it was an intentional attack). If it's typical to give someone a ticket for entering the field/court of play in that situation, why is it so ridiculous to suggest ticketing people who run onto the court at the end of the game. I'm not advocating for that position, but I don't think it's a ridiculous proposal.
So when thousands of students rush the court, they should have a bunch of Police sitting there ready to hand out tickets? What if they just run on the court and jump around a bit and exit? Are we going to treat those people the same way as those who harass or assault a player or coach?
Now deal with the parents who inevitably call...and the students who decide not to buy tickets the next year.
And how do you manage this?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkRAfi3qp14k3xESpSdNTiPwlpiqsDWnRgTw&usqp=CAU)
Anyway, here is my solution FWIW.
1. Develop plans to protect the players, coaches and officials.
2. Ticket and arrest those who conduct violent offenses.
3. Stop promoting them. (The image above was from this game. CBS seems pretty fired up about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bscYWk_QRtg)
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I sure don’t have a sure-fire solution. Obviously, you can’t ticket thousands of college students. Putting in some kind of countdown clock to delay storming sounds good … as long as the students obey it.
It’s an interesting topic for discussion.
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Allow coaches to carry weapons designed to kill as many people as possible.
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Allow coaches to carry weapons designed to kill as many people as possible.
Once they cross the baseline, they really aren’t even people anymore. Sub-human, celebrating scum.
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I sure don’t have a sure-fire solution. Obviously, you can’t ticket thousands of college students. Putting in some kind of countdown clock to delay storming sounds good … as long as the students obey it.
It’s an interesting topic for discussion.
Kind of defeats the whole "storming" process if there is a time delay. I say let them storm, and let the Covid microchip identify any bad behavior.
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This seems very much like one of those things that's a hot topic for a few weeks, then everybody forgets about it come Championship week, then nobody thinks about it at all until next winter. By then Clark and Filipowski will be playing professionally and won't care, and Bilis will still have his "old man shouts at clouds" tag and nothing will change.
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Wow! How times have changed. I was at the '67 NFL Championship game when the Packers beat the Cowboys. I have Lambeau Field turf growing my Dad's backyard here in Jersey.
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So when thousands of students rush the court, they should have a bunch of Police sitting there ready to hand out tickets? What if they just run on the court and jump around a bit and exit? Are we going to treat those people the same way as those who harass or assault a player or coach?
Now deal with the parents who inevitably call...and the students who decide not to buy tickets the next year.
And how do you manage this?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkRAfi3qp14k3xESpSdNTiPwlpiqsDWnRgTw&usqp=CAU)
Anyway, here is my solution FWIW.
1. Develop plans to protect the players, coaches and officials.
2. Ticket and arrest those who conduct violent offenses.
3. Stop promoting them. (The image above was from this game. CBS seems pretty fired up about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bscYWk_QRtg)
I don't think it's a perfect solution...at all. But I also don't think it's ridiculous. If you run out onto the field and jump and dance around during the game, you get a ticket. The intent to injure someone is not the issue. The same conduct after the game has no consequences. It's not unreasonable to suggest that there should be some consequences.
For the record, I think your suggestions are better than Bilas's. I did notice during the Purdue/Northwestern game earlier this year, pretty much all the Purdue players were already on their way to the locker room before the final buzzer. But that's not always possible.
Regarding No. 3 of your suggestions, there is a reason that the networks simply will not show people running onto the field/court during big sporting events. Leading off SportsCenter with last night's court storming certainly does nothing to address the problem. Bilas made that point as well.
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I laugh at the expulsion suggestions that I've seen.
1. Students who are found responsible for violent assaults or sexual assaults often don't get expelled, most get suspensions. But we're going to expel students for court storming.
2. There is legal due process required before you can expel a student. They would have to go through some kind of process for literal thousands of students. That would likely take years and cost hundreds of thousands in man hours, if not millions.
3. How many Marquette students stormed the court back in 2017? 3000? (Honestly don't know just guessing). Marquettes student population is around 11K. Youre going to expel over a quarter of your student population. That's millions in tuition, fees, and future donations that youre lighting on fire.
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For you old school, historian types, the now outdated term 'cagers' in reference to basketball players comes from a time when the game was played inside a virtual cage to protect the players from unruly crowds.
Wojo years
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/DnCr3J8FGVQAAAAC/blues-brothers.gif)
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Once they cross the baseline, they really aren’t even people anymore. Sub-human, celebrating scum.
Agree
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I don't think it's a perfect solution...at all. But I also don't think it's ridiculous. If you run out onto the field and jump and dance around during the game, you get a ticket.
Who issues these tickets? Will, say, the Milwaukee or Winston-Salem police departments assign a couple dozen cops to games just in case? Do you expect hundreds of students, immediately after rushing the court, to politely line up to receive their citations? Do you think students instead might attempt to evade a ticket by fleeing, creating an even more dangerous situation?
It's simply not a practical solution.
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Wojo years
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/DnCr3J8FGVQAAAAC/blues-brothers.gif)
I was saving that for later emphasis. But thanks for putting it up. Always a laugh.
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I laugh at the expulsion suggestions that I've seen.
1. Students who are found responsible for violent assaults or sexual assaults often don't get expelled, most get suspensions. But we're going to expel students for court storming.
2. There is legal due process required before you can expel a student. They would have to go through some kind of process for literal thousands of students. That would likely take years and cost hundreds of thousands in man hours, if not millions.
3. How many Marquette students stormed the court back in 2017? 3000? (Honestly don't know just guessing). Marquettes student population is around 11K. Youre going to expel over a quarter of your student population. That's millions in tuition, fees, and future donations that youre lighting on fire.
Agreed TAMU. That is a really dumb suggestion.
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Isn't this just a crowd control issue that any arena that can host CBB games should be equipped to handle? If you levy gigantic fines on the schools, they will be forced to staff (on campus) or work with their host arenas (off campus) to make sure security staffs games in a way that prevents the crowd from trespassing on the court. Sure there is a culture of celebrating court storming to overcome, but movable barricades in front of student sections and stationing arena personnel should do the trick shouldn't it? its not like these are bread riots, they're drunk and excited college kids positioned around - at most 35% of the court boundaries.
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Court stormings are not going to stop and there are no easy solutions to "managing" them. I think it is possible that if a coach of Shaka's stature pleads with the students during the season to allow time for the opponents, officials, people at the scorekeepers' table etc. to leave safely (about 30 seconds or so) when the home team pulls off a major upset, there is a chance that the enough of the crowd will hold back for a little while. That alone would be enough to lower the chances of injuries.
A "carrot/stick" approach would be that if the crowd waits just a little while, there will be a chance for to hear the players and coach speak to the crowd. If the crowd rushes immediately, the home team should go to their locker room and not come back out.
The trick is to work with super excited college students and get them to buy into this scheme. I have no illusions that it would be simple and easy.
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I've seen schools put ropes up by the handshake line so people didn't go by the teams. Also, I thought the Bradley Center did a good job. They had barricades and security ready to go at the under 4 timeout.
I think it didn't help that Duke really didn't show much urgency getting off the court.
I'm not sure there's a great solution to prevent it, but I would expect it to be something teams start practicing a little bit. Once the buzzer goes off, they should try and head straight to the sideline.
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Creighton security did a good job against UConn. You can see the upper left of photo security took a rope and sectioned off the UConn bench so they had a easy path to tunnel.
https://twitter.com/B_McCarville/status/1760288253800804703
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Apologies if it was shared already, but Kam Jones already found the solution to the court storming issue.
https://twitter.com/csgkam/status/1762276377112232229?t=vXyf0USaGR4sJ622VqOybQ&s=19
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Apologies if it was shared already, but Kam Jones already found the solution to the court storming issue.
https://twitter.com/csgkam/status/1762276377112232229?t=vXyf0USaGR4sJ622VqOybQ&s=19
He is not wrong.
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Creighton security did a good job against UConn. You can see the upper left of photo security took a rope and sectioned off the UConn bench so they had a easy path to tunnel.
https://twitter.com/B_McCarville/status/1760288253800804703
Exactly. That's a great example.
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Creighton security did a good job against UConn. You can see the upper left of photo security took a rope and sectioned off the UConn bench so they had a easy path to tunnel.
https://twitter.com/B_McCarville/status/1760288253800804703
Yes, I had forgotten about that. Seems to be a pretty darn good solution.
The only problem I could foresee: If it's a last-possession game, would they be able to get the ropes up quickly enough before the storming?
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Yes, I had forgotten about that. Seems to be a pretty darn good solution.
The only problem I could foresee: If it's a last-possession game, would they be able to get the ropes up quickly enough before the storming?
That is a great question. I am not an expert in physical security, but I would think the administration would let the facilities know "we might have a court storm tonight" and to have a plan in place to get the security positioned in the correct areas in the last few minutes of the game to make that path towards the tunnels.
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Wonder what number of people qualifies as a court storm. If 10 people stormed the court, they’d be quickly tackled and arrested. If a 1,000 people did, then it’s all good. What about 100?
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Wonder what number of people qualifies as a court storm. If 10 people stormed the court, they’d be quickly tackled and arrested. If a 1,000 people did, then it’s all good. What about 100?
The guy at Detroit Mercy was alone and he walked off unscathed
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Wonder what number of people qualifies as a court storm. If 10 people stormed the court, they’d be quickly tackled and arrested. If a 1,000 people did, then it’s all good. What about 100?
Ratio of students/rowdy fans relative to security is probably the barometer. a storm of 50 may seem small to us and the army of security at the fiserv but on the other hand to the two retirees working part time security at a small school? Well they aren't about to stop those 50 people.
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Marquette is 25-1 in their last 26 conference home games.
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The guy at Detroit Mercy was alone and he walked off unscathed
I think he was given an award and keys to the city.
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Just like the border. When the court is entered, arrest and/or throw out. Maybe the Czar can help out
Build a wall and make the football programs pay for it.
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So when thousands of students rush the court, they should have a bunch of Police sitting there ready to hand out tickets? What if they just run on the court and jump around a bit and exit? Are we going to treat those people the same way as those who harass or assault a player or coach?
Now deal with the parents who inevitably call...and the students who decide not to buy tickets the next year.
And how do you manage this?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkRAfi3qp14k3xESpSdNTiPwlpiqsDWnRgTw&usqp=CAU)
Anyway, here is my solution FWIW.
1. Develop plans to protect the players, coaches and officials.
2. Ticket and arrest those who conduct violent offenses.
3. Stop promoting them. (The image above was from this game. CBS seems pretty fired up about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bscYWk_QRtg)
#2 gets it done by itself. The overwhelming majority of people who storm the floor are fine and having fun. In many instances you can see most of the kids trying to give the other team a wide berth. There are some idiots. There are cameras everywhere. Find the idiots. Punish them.
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Get Greg Abbott on the horn.
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Big games for the Marquette cause tonight:
Wisconsin travels to Indiana and a win helps Marquette unless Mike Woodson gets fired and they hire Shaka and Marquette hires Porter Moser
Northern Illinois travels to Toledo. A Huskies win helps the Golden Eagles cause
Texas goes to Lubbock where a Longhorn win helps for seeding purposes
Notre Dame hosts Wake Forest and an Irish win would catapult Marquette up a seed line
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Assembly Hall being evacuated with 10 minutes to go.
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Assembly Hall being evacuated with 10 minutes to go.
Fire alarms going off from buckys hit shooting.
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Assembly Hall being evacuated with 10 minutes to go.
Tornadoes? No point in finishing that game anyway.
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Tornadoes? No point in finishing that game anyway.
A Wisconsin win helps the Golden Eagles cause
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Tornadoes? No point in finishing that game anyway.
Fire alarms. You wouldn't evacuate a building with tornadoes.
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One way to prevent a court storm.
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Fire alarms. You wouldn't evacuate a building with tornadoes.
So there's a fire in the building or a false alarm?
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False alarm. Everybody returning.
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False alarm. Everybody returning.
Good. Need Bucky to bring this home for us
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I think the greatest storming might’ve been when Chambliss hit his 1976 pennant clinching home run at old Yankee Stadium. Artie Lange tells how he and his dad were at that game and as his dad was jumping on the field he yelled at Artie: "I’ll meet you at shortstop".
I was at that game but safely ensconced in the Uecker seats out in right field.
https://youtu.be/gcRRFy_8Gzw?si=0hhc8kv4kwJblsrU
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Good. Need Bucky to bring this home for us
I'm lost unless you're trying to be humorous.
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I'm lost unless you're trying to be humorous.
It’s good for our SOS and NET if Bucky wins
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Indiana is a terrible basketball team. The head coaching job will be open very soon.
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It’s good for our SOS and NET if Bucky wins
Can’t imagine it moving the needle at all to be honest.
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Indiana is a terrible basketball team. The head coaching job will be open very soon.
It sounds like there’s a culture problem there as well.
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Can’t imagine it moving the needle at all to be honest.
It won't. Reeko is just Reekoing.
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Indiana is a terrible basketball team. The head coaching job will be open very soon.
They have some good forwards but their guards are abysmal.
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My bride, the Hoosier fan, is extremely jealous of MU's guard play, motion, and ball movement.
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It sounds like there’s a culture problem there as well.
Yeah, it’s Indiana.
I’ll never understand the Mike Woodson hire. Hired when he was 63 and hadn’t been in college in forever in any capacity.
Fanbase is a mess. Tough gig
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Reed Sheppard is fun
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Get the badgers off the 5 line.
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Wild ending between Kentucky and MIss State.
Hell of a comeback only to get buzzer beatered.
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Thank you IU.
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Yeah, it’s Indiana.
I’ll never understand the Mike Woodson hire. Hired when he was 63 and hadn’t been in college in forever in any capacity.
Fanbase is a mess. Tough gig
I think they had struck out with some of their top choices. Although, I think the fan base thought Brad Stevens was realistic.
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Thank you IU.
Extend Gard!
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Badgers unreal feb fade
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Badgers unreal feb fade
Very small chance it happens but if they drop the next 4 (including conference tourney) are they in at 18-14?
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BYU about to win at Kansas.
No McCullar but still.
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Texas up 29 at TTU.
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BYU about to win at Kansas.
No McCullar but still.
But still what. He averages 19ppg, 6rpg and 5 assists, best defensive player and probably a first team AA. Him not playing in loss contributed to it.
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Nova and Texas gonna try and make one last metrics push tonight.
Dont think either can ever get to Q1 they get close then flop. But both will rise big tonight(assuming Texas keeps this differential up)
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My bride, the Hoosier fan, is extremely jealous of MU's guard play, motion, and ball movement.
My wife is jealous of their motion and ball movement too, big fan of the fundamentals
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For some reason, Storr thought it was a good idea to fling a 3 at the basket with Madison trailing by 2.
During Gard's classic 2-6 February Fade, Storr is shooting .417 from the floor (including .286 from 3), and he has 15 TO to go with his 6 assists.
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For some reason, Storr thought it was a good idea to fling a 3 at the basket with Madison trailing by 2.
During Gard's classic 2-6 February Fade, Storr is shooting .417 from the floor (including .286 from 3), and he has 15 TO to go with his 6 assists.
Brutal.
That team, and player, have fallen on some hard times.
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He’s a lottery pick. Gard knows ball. Madison always gets it done. They locked up the Big 10 title and a 1 seed before mid January. Just hope MU can meet them in the national title game.
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He’s a lottery pick. Gard knows ball. Madison always gets it done. They locked up the Big 10 title and a 1 seed before mid January. Just hope MU can meet them in the national title game.
Yeah, GE03's "They always get it done" refrain has hit some sour notes the last couple years. And really, in several years before that, too. Frank Kaminsky ain't walkin' through that door.
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Remember Wakes win over Duke??
Well, they just lost to Notre Dame and right back onto the cut line
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Remember Wakes win over Duke??
Well, they just lost to Notre Dame and right back onto the cut line
Further evidence the ACC is a joke.
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For some reason, Storr thought it was a good idea to fling a 3 at the basket with Madison trailing by 2.
During Gard's classic 2-6 February Fade, Storr is shooting .417 from the floor (including .286 from 3), and he has 15 TO to go with his 6 assists.
I could see Blackwell transferring.
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Rumor has it Storr will be looking for a bag this offseason.
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Rumor has it Storr will be looking for a bag this offseason.
Chucky is probably gonzo as well.
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I could see Blackwell transferring.
Would love to see that team implode.
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Arkansas loses at home to Vandy.
Not a great year for the Muss Bus.
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Would love to see that team implode.
Pretty much doing that already.
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Rumor has it Storr will be looking for a bag this offseason.
Is he even allowed to transfer again?
Essegian and Hepburn I could see.
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For some reason, Storr thought it was a good idea to fling a 3 at the basket with Madison trailing by 2.
During Gard's classic 2-6 February Fade, Storr is shooting .417 from the floor (including .286 from 3), and he has 15 TO to go with his 6 assists.
#lotterypick
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It's wild to me that UW doesn't have a Q3 loss yet. The computers seem to love the Big Ten.
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Massive choke by Nevada alloing their game vs CSU to go to OT
Stevens gets another 5 minutes to try and stat pad assists.
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It's wild to me that UW doesn't have a Q3 loss yet. The computers seem to love the Big Ten.
They win at home and lose on the road. For a road loss to be Q3, the team needs to be #136 or lower in NET. Wisconsin only has two home losses, Purdue and Tennessee, a likely 1 seed and 2 seed.
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Massive choke by Nevada alloing their game vs CSU to go to OT
Stevens gets another 5 minutes to try and stat pad assists.
Or they hit the shot of the year lol
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Or they hit the shot of the year lol
Haha holy sh it.
It must have been reviewed cause ESPN told me it was end of regulation. Just went back to check the score in OT.
Wow
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Or they hit the shot of the year lol
My goodness, what a shot! And on the same night, Max Strus hits a halfcourt shot for the Cavs to beat the Mavs.
Unbelievable!
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Further evidence the ACC is a joke.
Further evidence that it’s difficult to win on the road.
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Or they hit the shot of the year lol
WOW!!
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Great results across the board last night for the Golden Eagles cause except from our dear friends just west of us
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The Badgers waltz to the Big 10 title just got easier.
Uhhhhhh....... Whooooooops. :)
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They win at home and lose on the road. For a road loss to be Q3, the team needs to be #136 or lower in NET. Wisconsin only has two home losses, Purdue and Tennessee, a likely 1 seed and 2 seed.
That's true. I think DePaul and Georgetown have skewed my view of conference opponent quadrants.
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That “clear path” for uw-Becky has been covered in manure. What a disgrace. B1G tourney may be interesting. So many teams that just aren’t very good — what will happen?
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My wife is jealous of their motion and ball movement too, big fan of the fundamentals
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That “clear path” for uw-Becky has been covered in manure. What a disgrace. B1G tourney may be interesting. So many teams that just aren’t very good — what will happen?
Huskers
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An SEC team finally reached .500 in Q1 games.-hopefully it doesn't last (for our seeding sake)
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Great game between Auburn and Tennessee
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Loyola just beat Dayton for its first home victory over a ranked team in almost 40 years ...
... and Loyola students didn't storm the court.
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Loyola just beat Dayton for its first home victory over a ranked team in almost 40 years ...
... and Loyola students didn't storm the court.
Weak
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Sister Jean gave them a stern look.
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Wow.
https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1763989619404677617?s=20
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Wow.
https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1763989619404677617?s=20
That’s great to see Moore returning. Can’t imagine what he’s endured. Beyond tragic.
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Absolutely awful and unimaginable. Good to see him back.
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Old Bucky loses again!!
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Number 7 Kansas just lost by 8,with all their players...
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Kansas and Bucky go down - already a good day!
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Kansas and Bucky go down - already a good day!
I assume Bucky needs to win a few(one?) more games to be a lock? If they loose to Rutgers, they could be in trouble.
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Nice to see Madison and Providence get big home Ls today. "Hate" isn't nice, so let's just say I strongly dislike both.
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I assume Bucky needs to win a few(one?) more games to be a lock? If they loose to Rutgers, they could be in trouble.
No. They have enough quality wins in the bank to be a lock.
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My thoughts on UW-Madison are no secret, but if I ever wanted to see them win it would have been today with Howard Moore back at the Kohl Center. What that man has endured is heartbreaking.
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And shout out to Rashard Griffith for helping to raise his son. I believe Howard and him were high school classmates.
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Wisky should be on the 8 line.
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Watching MSU lose the game firing from the mid range.
At this point, the pull up from 15 hurts my eyes.
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Houston with a last second shot to beat the Fighting Porters.
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What would have Maravich averaged in college with a 3pt line? 55 ppg?
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What would have Maravich averaged in college with a 3pt line? 55 ppg?
His career scoring total is almost hard to believe. Plus, think he did it in 3 seasons since freshman weren’t eligible then? I may be wrong on that. But it’s incredible, whether over 3 or 4 years.
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His career scoring total is almost hard to believe. Plus, think he did it in 3 seasons since freshman weren’t eligible then? I may be wrong on that. But it’s incredible, whether over 3 or 4 years.
He definitely did it in 3 seasons.
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His career scoring total is almost hard to believe. Plus, think he did it in 3 seasons since freshman weren’t eligible then? I may be wrong on that. But it’s incredible, whether over 3 or 4 years.
Three years. No three point line and no 30 second clock. 44ppg at like 46% fg, 6 reb and 5 assists.
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LSU went 14-12, 13-13 and 22-10 in Pete's 3 seasons, as his coach (and dad) cared only about his son shooting every time down the court.
Doesn't mean Pete was anything but a great offensive player, just that he probably would have been an extremely valuable player on a better team if he had a coach who emphasized scoring less and winning more.
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LSU went 14-12, 13-13 and 22-10 in Pete's 3 seasons, as his coach (and dad) cared only about his son shooting every time down the court.
Doesn't mean Pete was anything but a great offensive player, just that he probably would have been an extremely valuable player on a better team if he had a coach who emphasized scoring less and winning more.
Was there anyone else on the team that was really good?
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LSU went 14-12, 13-13 and 22-10 in Pete's 3 seasons, as his coach (and dad) cared only about his son shooting every time down the court.
Doesn't mean Pete was anything but a great offensive player, just that he probably would have been an extremely valuable player on a better team if he had a coach who emphasized scoring less and winning more.
The other day I heard Dan Patrick said that a few years back he was interviewing Dale Brown (long time LSU coach after Pet was gone. He said through review of shot charts and game films he pieced together that Pete made 12 three pointers per game, He averaged 44 points a game in three years, if you add 12 points per game to that, it would have been a ridiculous 56 a game. He also scored over 700 points on the freshman team in his first year. And with no shot clock there were fewer possessions per game.
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The other day I heard Dan Patrick said that a few years back he was interviewing Dale Brown (long time LSU coach after Pet was gone. He said through review of shot charts and game films he pieced together that Pete made 12 three pointers per game, He averaged 44 points a game in three years, if you add 12 points per game to that, it would have been a ridiculous 56 a game. He also scored over 700 points on the freshman team in his first year. And with no shot clock there were fewer possessions per game.
That's amazing, cool info.
Was there anyone else on the team that was really good?
I don't know. But that would be the coach's responsibility ... if the coach even wanted other players who would take shots away from his son.
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LSU went 14-12, 13-13 and 22-10 in Pete's 3 seasons, as his coach (and dad) cared only about his son shooting every time down the court.
Doesn't mean Pete was anything but a great offensive player, just that he probably would have been an extremely valuable player on a better team if he had a coach who emphasized scoring less and winning more.
Ah the Wojo/Markus offense
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LSU went 14-12, 13-13 and 22-10 in Pete's 3 seasons, as his coach (and dad) cared only about his son shooting every time down the court.
Doesn't mean Pete was anything but a great offensive player, just that he probably would have been an extremely valuable player on a better team if he had a coach who emphasized scoring less and winning more.
Well, LSU was 3-23 Pete's freshman year, so Pete helped Press win some. If only Pete would have scored a little better on his SAT's, he would have played at NC State.
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Drake beats Bradley and the Braves will finish third in the Valley.
Will Brian Wardle come home to Marquette this off-season after failing to win his league again?
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Only if Shaka craps himself in the tourney.
Will Brian Wardle come home to Marquette this off-season after failing to win his league again?
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Only if Shaka craps himself in the tourney.
If Marquette doesn’t make the second weekend and doesn’t fire Shaka, it sends a bad message
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Well, LSU was 3-23 Pete's freshman year, so Pete helped Press win some. If only Pete would have scored a little better on his SAT's, he would have played at NC State.
In those days SEC basketball was pretty much Kentucky with some competition from Tennessee and nobody else.
Most of the SEC schools were still segregated.
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Ah the Wojo/Markus offense
Pete was a cancer on the team.
Well, LSU was 3-23 Pete's freshman year, so Pete helped Press win some. If only Pete would have scored a little better on his SAT's, he would have played at NC State. Wisconsin.
FIFY
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Great win for Duke at NC State tonight. Top-20 KenPom offense and defense means they’re a legit threat to cut down the nets. Pretty good coaching job by Scheyer.
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Great win for Duke at NC State tonight. Top-20 KenPom offense and defense means they’re a legit threat to cut down the nets. Pretty good coaching job by Scheyer.
Not "great". Excellent. And an excellent coaching job by Scheyer.
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Great win for Duke at NC State tonight. Top-20 KenPom offense and defense means they’re a legit threat to cut down the nets. Pretty good coaching job by Scheyer.
Scheyer is a kitten
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Well, LSU was 3-23 Pete's freshman year, so Pete helped Press win some. If only Pete would have scored a little better on his SAT's, he would have played at NC State.
Maravich’s NBA career pretty much confirms that he was an outstanding player even if his college scoring stats were absurd.
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Maravich’s NBA career pretty much confirms that he was an outstanding player even if his college scoring stats were absurd.
Bad knees and was on a lot of bad teams. The only season he was on a team that won a playoff series was his last with the Celtics. Bird's rookie campaign. They lost in the conference finals to the Sixers who lost in the Finals to the Lakers when Magic scored 40 in Game 6.
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From Yahoo Sports:
The University of Antelope Valley men's basketball team won its conference tournament on Monday night, and the women's team plays in the conference title game tonight — despite their school no longer being in existence.
Wait, what? The Southern California-based university shut down last week amid financial woes*, forcing the basketball teams to raise money through GoFundMe to continue their seasons.
What's next: The men's team has qualified for the NAIA tournament later this month, and the women can do the same tonight. But will they be able to participate?
"We are still working with state agencies and accrediting agencies to try and keep these guys active," UAV's interim president, Tim Campagna, told Sportico.
Don Ott, commissioner of the California Pacific Conference where UAV has been a member since 2015, expressed confidence that the school-less players will be granted waivers.
*Financial woes is an understatement: UAV was acquired in 2022 by Genius Group, a Singapore-based education technology company, which has seen its stock price plummet nearly 100% over the last year. It's currently trading at $0.31 on the NYSE.
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I read about this a week or so ago, there were stories about the coach raising the money. I actually donated, I felt so bad for him and the players, and he sounded like a really good guy. Hopefully they can all land on their feet somewhere.
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Marquette's not the only contender with injury woes.
Houston didn't lose its PG, but it did lose its valuable backup center.
From The Athletic:
Houston freshman JoJo Tugler broke a bone in his right foot and will miss the remainder of the 2023-24 season, coach Kelvin Sampson told reporters Monday. Sampson also confirmed that Tugler will have surgery on Thursday.
“That’s a big hit. Everyone will try to figure out what it means for us,” Sampson said. “But that’s a human being with a broken foot, who’s invested his entire life into this season.”
This is the third season-ending injury for the Cougars this season, who were voted as the No. 1 team in the country in this week’s AP poll, receiving 52 of 60 first-place votes. Sophomore wing Terrance Arceneaux tore his Achilles against Texas A&M in December, and backup guard Ramon Walker tore his meniscus in practice about a week ago.
In 16 minutes per game this season, the 6-foot-7 Tugler averaged 3.8 points and 4.1 rebounds. He posted a season-high 13 points in his lone start against Penn on Dec. 30. But it’s on the defensive end where Tugler’s absence is a definite blow to Houston’s title chances.
https://theathletic.com/5315805/2024/03/04/houston-basketball-jojo-tugler-injury/?source=pulsenewsletter&campaign=9171296&userId=3738391
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Games to watch tonight that may help or hurt Marquette’s cause:
Purdue at Illinois- A Purdue loss hurts Marquette but an Illinois win helps unless they pass Marquette in the brackets. Game available on The Cock.
Notre Dame at UNC - Pull for an Irish win to help SOS and hurt UNC
Central Michigan at Northern Illinois - A Husky win helps the Marquette cause
Detroit at UWM - Pull for Detroit so Marquette doesn’t draw UWM in the tourney and cause Marquette alum to pee themselves in fear of playing their crosstown rivals
Kansas State at Kansas - Need a Jayhawk win to help the cause
St. John’s at DePaul - A DePaul win helps Marquette possible avoid St. John’s in a 4-5 matchup at the Garden. That would help the cause
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I am rooting for Purdue over Illinois tonight just so the Illini don’t get any ideas about launching a charge for that spot in Indy.
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Toledo up 44-15 on Miami (OH)
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Toledo up 44-15 on Miami (OH)
That’s a travis-ty
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I am rooting for Purdue over Illinois tonight just so the Illini don’t get any ideas about launching a charge for that spot in Indy.
You would think the fact that we beat Illinois, on their home floor, would be to our advantage.
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You would think the fact that we beat Illinois, on their home floor, would be to our advantage.
That was before we had weak knees, a tender stomach and exploding diarrhea, bruh
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You would think the fact that we beat Illinois, on their home floor, would be to our advantage.
It might be a factor, but I wouldn’t want to rely on it if Illinois beats Purdue tonight and then goes on to win the Big 10 Tournament while MU loses to Xavier.
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That was before we had weak knees, a tender stomach and exploding diarrhea, bruh
It's still about body of work.
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It might be a factor, but I wouldn’t want to rely on it if Illinois beats Purdue tonight and then goes on to win the Big 10 Tournament while MU loses to Xavier.
It doesn't look like Illinois is winning this game.
Whoops. Purdue can always choke. Anyway I don't see Illinois winning the B18 tournament.
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Alabama is the most egregious example of a team gaming the metrics
They get boat raced by any team with a pulse. I am salivating for that match up.
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Detroit up on 1 on UWM with 5:21 left in the first half
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It doesn't look like Illinois is winning this game.
Its tied
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Its tied
Any time a team takes an insurmountable 4-point lead, Muggsy declares a game over
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UWM 1-13 from 3 so far but up 1 now
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The.muggsy jinx.
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Edey missing a lot of gimmes.
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The.muggsy jinx.
Don't blame me for Purdue gagging Tower.
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Don't blame me for Purdue gagging Tower.
How are they gagging?
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Detroit and UWM tied at half
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How are they gagging?
Like I said, Purdue looks like they'll win this game. :)
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It might be a factor, but I wouldn’t want to rely on it if Illinois beats Purdue tonight and then goes on to win the Big 10 Tournament while MU loses to Xavier.
The ink will be dry on that bracket before the big ten championship. Way too may logistics to swap locations based on one game. Illinois also blew a big lead to Penn State after the reveal, which is, um, not good.
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Purdue got lucky as hell off that ill advised drive by Jones.
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WIll Edey have an NBA career?
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WIll Edey have an NBA career?
Yes
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Detroit and UWM tied at half
Mercy.
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Yes
Do you see him in the league for 10 years? No one really plays like he does.
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Do you see him in the league for 10 years? No one really plays like he does.
Doubtful? Is he strong enough to play in the NBA or quick enough? I have my doubts but he’ll get drafted and have a chance.
I think it’s more likely he’s a 3-4 year type player that doesn’t get a second deal but he’ll get a chance by whoever drafts him
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UWM up 5 with 14 minutes left. Start the bus, this one is over
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Doubtful? Is he strong enough to play in the NBA or quick enough? I have my doubts but he’ll get drafted and have a chance.
I think it’s more likely he’s a 3-4 year type player that doesn’t get a second deal but he’ll get a chance by whoever drafts him
That's pretty much where I'm at.
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Detroit now up 2 on UWM with about 10 minutes left
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Detroit now up 2 on UWM with about 10 minutes left
Just for the Hell of it, I put the game up on the ESPN site. So, Detroit is 1-30 overall, 1-19 in the Horizon? My Gawd!
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Just for the Hell of it, I put the game up on the ESPN site. So, Detroit is 1-30 overall, 1-19 in the Horizon? My Gawd!
These low major conferences always get weird in their tournaments. The top-2 seeds in the ASun might get bounced tonight in the quarterfinals
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Oklahoma losing at home to Cincy.
A loss would be their 5th in the last 6, road game at Texas left.
A loss there and that’s a 19-12, 7-11 team that’s been tumbling in the brackets…
Porter better figure it out in the next 8 minutes before he starts getting those bubblin guts
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Heartbreak for Lipscomb in the ASun. Make a 3 to tie the game but lose at the buzzer to North Alabama
https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1765208287232835898?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Doubtful? Is he strong enough to play in the NBA or quick enough? I have my doubts but he’ll get drafted and have a chance.
I think it’s more likely he’s a 3-4 year type player that doesn’t get a second deal but he’ll get a chance by whoever drafts him
The interesting thing about Edey is if the NBA likely doesn't work out, he won't transition to a long and profitable Euro career either, cause his style doesn't fit there either. He'll probably end up in China or Taiwan (maybe not given his maternal heritage), possibly Japan, where huge centers still play starring roles.
Oklahoma losing at home to Cincy.
A loss would be their 5th in the last 6, road game at Texas left.
A loss there and that’s a 19-12, 7-11 team that’s been tumbling in the brackets…
Porter better figure it out in the next 8 minutes before he starts getting those bubblin guts
I called it out when they were top 10 early in Jan despite having a really soft resume to that point and beating nobody. They've lost 9 out of 15 since then and only beat a decent BYU team at home as a win of any note. Other than the Houston loss, any top 25 team has not only beat them, but smacked them around.
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Looks like UWM will win and Marquette fans will have to sweat out a potential March matchup for a few more days
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Just for the Hell of it, I put the game up on the ESPN site. So, Detroit is 1-30 overall, 1-19 in the Horizon? My Gawd!
Tough basketball year for the city of Detroit.
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Quite happy Purdue won. Hopefully keeps the committee from having any dopey ideas about seeding Illinois higher than Marquette.
Didn't care if Oklahoma won or lost, but the fraud continued to get exposed. Like Wags said, it was fairly easy to see that one coming.
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Heartbreak for Lipscomb in the ASun. Make a 3 to tie the game but lose at the buzzer to North Alabama
https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1765208287232835898?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
That's as good of an ending as you can hope for in a basketball game.
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First home loss for Wake tonight and a bad one at that, to Ga Tech by 1 in the final seconds.
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Alabama is the most egregious example of a team gaming the metrics
They get boat raced by any team with a pulse. I am salivating for that match up.
71 free throws attempted in that game, unreal.
That’s an outrageous number. I did a quick search and it appears the SEC has several games with some absurd FT attempt totals- not sure why or what it means for March madness but I’m guessing it’ll have some significance even though they don’t matta
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71 free throws attempted in that game, unreal.
That’s an outrageous number. I did a quick search and it appears the SEC has several games with some absurd FT attempt totals- not sure why or what it means for March madness but I’m guessing it’ll have some significance even though they don’t matta
130 is the all time record
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1844084-seton-hall-and-niagara-rack-up-73-fouls-102-free-throw-attempts-in-single-game
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Looks like UWM will win and Marquette fans will have to sweat out a potential March matchup for a few more days
At it sets up a quarterfinal with Green Bay that will divide the state in two!
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From Yahoo Sports:
Caitlin Clark's history-making game on Sunday averaged 3.4 million viewers on Fox, the largest audience for a women's regular-season game in 25 years and the second-largest audience for any college hoops game this season, men or women.
Not sure who the other 3,399,998 viewers were, but my wife and I were part of the audience.
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I watched. She’s fun to watch. Fox was over the top as usual.
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From Yahoo Sports:
Caitlin Clark's history-making game on Sunday averaged 3.4 million viewers on Fox, the largest audience for a women's regular-season game in 25 years and the second-largest audience for any college hoops game this season, men or women.
Not sure who the other 3,399,998 viewers were, but my wife and I were part of the audience.
I did too. That atmosphere was electric from start to finish. Will be interesting to see if, or at least how much, that carries over to the WNBA. Even Iowa road games have packed stadiums.
Some of her flopping is annoying, but what an unbelievable talent Clark is.
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I watched. She’s fun to watch. Fox was over the top as usual.
I haven't watched, but only because I can catch all of her highlights on every halftime show ever. Fox & ESPN. Glad she is making some $$, and that will continue.
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I did too. That atmosphere was electric from start to finish. Will be interesting to see if, or at least how much, that carries over to the WNBA. Even Iowa road games have packed stadiums.
It will carry over to the WNBA ... at least at first. Indiana Fever ticket sales have picked up, and reportedly so have sales league-wide.
Ultimately, though, it will depend on if she can be a transcendent talent in the WNBA and if she can win a lot. A big "we'll see" there.
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It will carry over to the WNBA ... at least at first. Indiana Fever ticket sales have picked up, and reportedly so have sales league-wide.
Ultimately, though, it will depend on if she can be a transcendent talent in the WNBA and if she can win a lot. A big "we'll see" there.
does she take a paycut in the WNBA?
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does she take a paycut in the WNBA?
You're thinking of Kansas players going to the NBA. :D
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does she take a paycut in the WNBA?
I saw Rovell's tweet too, and curious why people would think she'd be getting a paycut. If you view NIL as endorsements, I would think that wouldn't dry up when she turns pro. I could see a shoe company trying to capitalize on her for women's basketball shoes.
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Teal/no teal, but I don't know what WNBA contracts are and what she was getting/would get next year in terms of NIL compensation.
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I saw Rovell's tweet too, and curious why people would think she'd be getting a paycut. If you view NIL as endorsements, I would think that wouldn't dry up when she turns pro. I could see a shoe company trying to capitalize on her for women's basketball shoes.
Doesn't make sense to me either. Unless the WNBA has less visibility than college? I believe it has its challenges for revenue. Not sure if it self-sustaining or subsidized by the NBA still.
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Teal/no teal, but I don't know what WNBA contracts are and what she was getting/would get next year in terms of NIL compensation.
It seems like her NIL$$ is what NIL should be used for Name Image and Likeness, unlike what it seems like men's Bball is-pay to play.
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At least at first, she will make a ton of $$$ on endorsements as a pro. She’ll have to stay relevant to continue to do so … but that’s the case with every athlete.
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It'll be interesting to see the transition. This year the following nationally was boosted by 1) top ten NCAA team 2) her pursuit of the scoring record 3) the attraction of college basketball in a P6 conference. She will be on a poor WNBA team in a smallish market. Just my opinion, but how much interest is there in WNBA hoops?
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It'll be interesting to see the transition. This year the following nationally was boosted by 1) top ten NCAA team 2) her pursuit of the scoring record 3) the attraction of college basketball in a P6 conference. She will be on a poor WNBA team in a smallish market. Just my opinion, but how much interest is there in WNBA hoops?
She's will be in a hoops craze state, B1G country, and have Aliyah Boston who is already pretty good as the number 1 draft pick last year. I bet they'll get pretty good pretty quick, and will have a lot of interest.
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She's will be in a hoops craze state, B1G country, and have Aliyah Boston who is already pretty good as the number 1 draft pick last year. I bet they'll get pretty good pretty quick, and will have a lot of interest.
Thanks for that. Again, I'm not up to speed on the WNBA. Old guy here who has never watched a complete WNBA game, but have watched some of Caitlin recently.
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It'll be interesting to see the transition. This year the following nationally was boosted by 1) top ten NCAA team 2) her pursuit of the scoring record 3) the attraction of college basketball in a P6 conference. She will be on a poor WNBA team in a smallish market. Just my opinion, but how much interest is there in WNBA hoops?
As probably the most famous and marketable female team-sports athlete in America right now, Clark will sign a bunch of endorsement deals and make a ton of money before she ever has to step foot on a WNBA court. From what I've read, in the next year she could make 3, 5, even 10 times what she made in NIL.
But again, sustaining that level of endorsement income will require her to excel in the NBA - to remain not just a great player but an iconic one - so what she'll be making 2 or 4 or more years down the line, we'll just have to see.
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Michigan State down 17-9 on Senior Night to Northwestern with 6:58 left in the first half
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Michigan State down 17-9 on Senior Night to Northwestern with 6:58 left in the first half
Game over
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Game over
Sparty has exploded for 11 points in the last 6 minutes
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I just hope we dont rebound like Northwestern tonight
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Needed BYU to not gakk away that game to Iowa State. Wouldn't be surprised to see Iowa State supplant Marquette on the 2 line in a lot of bracketologists' brackets.
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Needed BYU to not gakk away that game to Iowa State. Wouldn't be surprised to see Iowa State supplant Marquette on the 2 line in a lot of bracketologists' brackets.
I think most have Iowa State supplanting Kansas on the 2 line, not Marquette.
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I think most have Iowa State supplanting Kansas on the 2 line, not Marquette.
I know Lunardi is reputably a hack, but he had Marquette on the 2 line for weeks and weeks and weeks ... and now has MU as a 3 and Iowa State as a 2. I've also seen a couple others in which MU is no longer a 2 but ISU is.
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One of the best, Bracketville Press, has dropped Marquette to a 3 seed (9th overall). A 3 seed is very realistic, but as long as Kolek returns that's our floor.
The path back to a 2 seed is pretty clear. Beat Xavier, make BET final. Anything less than that is probably a 3 seed.
But a 2 seed is likely in the South. 3 seed has a good chance to land in the Midwest. Which path is ultimately better is open to debate and likely depends on our draw.
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I know Lunardi is reputably a hack, but he had Marquette on the 2 line for weeks and weeks and weeks ... and now has MU as a 3 and Iowa State as a 2. I've also seen a couple others in which MU is no longer a 2 but ISU is.
Sure they exist. 9 of the 113 brackets currently on bracket matrix have MU as a 3 seed. Itll be a few more after the loss last night but not many.
In the end, only the selection commitees matters
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I'd feel better if there were a true Ball-Knower on the committee.
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Pacific really tryna make their path to winning the WCC difficult
Trailed 56-9 at half
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Pacific really tryna make their path to winning the WCC difficult
Trailed 56-9 at half
Sweet Jesus
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Rutgers off to a hot start.
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Rutgers off to a hot start.
Badgers on a 14-4 run
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Just took the Badgers a few minutes for the Senior Night emotion to kick in.
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Tower jinx.
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Inspired by senior night, Madison is tied 49-49 with mighty Rutgers.
Will the second consecutive late-season collapse continue, or will Madison pull out a thrilling victory?
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Inspired by senior night, Madison is tied 49-49 with mighty Rutgers.
Will the second consecutive late-season collapse continue, or will Madison pull out a thrilling victory?
WTF? I see Rutgers trails by 2? Focus!!
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Badgers look like a 3-seed to me
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Badgers look like a 3-seed to me
MU82 jinxed Rutgers.
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Badgers look like a 3-seed to me
Selection Committee should consider McGee’s absence and give them a protected seed now that he’s back. Difference maker.
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Selection Committee should consider McGee’s absence and give them a protected seed now that he’s back. Difference maker.
Agree. They look like they can win it all.
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I think mugsy mushed Rutgers
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I think mugsy mushed Rutgers
It's my fault they're a disaster??
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It's my fault they're a disaster??
They fell apart once you showed back up on this thread.
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They fell apart once you showed back up on this thread.
Coincidence and jinx are two different things.
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Badgers wins helps the Badgers cause
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Badgers wins helps the Badgers cause
Cause to be off the 8 line?
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Cause to be off the 8 line?
I think they beat Purdue and win the Big Ten tournament. I can see them getting a 2 seed
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I think they beat Purdue and win the Big Ten tournament. I can see them getting a 2 seed
Great. I will have to reconsider everything now.
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I think they beat Purdue and win the Big Ten tournament. I can see them getting a 2 seed
lol thanks for the laugh
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Hatters heroics
https://x.com/madeformarch/status/1765926635528736974?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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I think they beat Purdue and win the Big Ten tournament. I can see them getting a 2 seed
GE03 sez the Weasels always get it done.
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It's my fault they're a disaster??
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Hatters heroics
https://x.com/madeformarch/status/1765926635528736974?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Lots of heroics in the ASun tourney
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Will be interesting to see where this Temple story goes. Tonight wasn’t the only fishy line movement on a Temple game over the last month. I doubt their game this weekend is on any board.
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My biggest takeaway from the UW vs Rutgers game (aside from the fact that Wahl and Crowl are just not very good and miss a lot of bunnies) is that Gavin Griffiths will probably end up at UCONN, maybe as soon as next year. They mentioned on the broadcast that he was recruited by the Huskies, but looking at their roster, he was blocked for playing time this year. He was the No. 20 recruit in the country and he’s from the state. Will be interesting to see if he transfers.
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Not so sure about Griffiths. He had Bama and Creighton offers too that he turned down for Rutgers. Must have liked something about what Pickell was doing in NJ, not so sure he'd jump straight away. And pretty sure UCONN is gonna have incoming replacement talent at his level, probably higher, that is gonna present a similar issue given his slow start to his career.
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Will be interesting to see where this Temple story goes. Tonight wasn’t the only fishy line movement on a Temple game over the last month. I doubt their game this weekend is on any board.
Just came here to see if anyone had mentioned this yet. Just saw while scrolling Twitter. This could be bad for CBB if true.
https://twitter.com/DaveConnellySG/status/1765948637614424292?t=VU5mYc0imG1GitvOlz6x8Q&s=19
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Just came here to see if anyone had mentioned this yet. Just saw while scrolling Twitter. This could be bad for CBB if true.
https://twitter.com/DaveConnellySG/status/1765948637614424292?t=VU5mYc0imG1GitvOlz6x8Q&s=19
Will be interesting to see where this Temple story goes. Tonight wasn’t the only fishy line movement on a Temple game over the last month. I doubt their game this weekend is on any board.
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Bart Lundy and Milwaukee to Horizon semifinals on Monday to face Keeyan and No KY. Happy for both of them.
Lundy can coach. Milwaukee is a very difficult job- almost no local fan base, indifferent alumni, mediocre at best facilities, shadow of MU, etc. He took over a dumpster fire and has made them instantly competitive. Hope they win the tournament.
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Bart Lundy and Milwaukee to Horizon semifinals on Monday to face Keeyan and No KY. Happy for both of them.
Lundy can coach. Milwaukee is a very difficult job- almost no local fan base, indifferent alumni, mediocre at best facilities, shadow of MU, etc. He took over a dumpster fire and has made them instantly competitive. Hope they win the tournament.
Would love to see them draw Marquette in the dance
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Would love to see them draw Marquette in the dance
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Bart Lundy and Milwaukee to Horizon semifinals on Monday to face Keeyan and No KY. Happy for both of them.
Lundy can coach. Milwaukee is a very difficult job- almost no local fan base, indifferent alumni, mediocre at best facilities, shadow of MU, etc. He took over a dumpster fire and has made them instantly competitive. Hope they win the tournament.
northern Kentucky, aside from keeyan, have another pretty decent player from eau Claire, wi. 6'8" forward LJ wells 8.5ppg /5.5 reb shooting 46.7% (40% from 3pt)
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Bart Lundy and Milwaukee to Horizon semifinals on Monday to face Keeyan and No KY. Happy for both of them.
Lundy can coach. Milwaukee is a very difficult job- almost no local fan base, indifferent alumni, mediocre at best facilities, shadow of MU, etc. He took over a dumpster fire and has made them instantly competitive. Hope they win the tournament.
After a pretty rough start to the year, they've gotten hot at the right time.
The opposite of UWGB. Apparently they were playing some games and kept moving UWM's practice time around and the league had to get involved. Their new coach, Sundance Wicks, is a bit of a charlatan who won't last long there.
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After a pretty rough start to the year, they've gotten hot at the right time.
The opposite of UWGB. Apparently they were playing some games and kept moving UWM's practice time around and the league had to get involved. Their new coach, Sundance Wicks, is a bit of a charlatan who won't last long there.
Interesting. I was wondering why there was no handshake line at the end of the game last night.
First time I've heard Wicks described that way though. Seems like he did a heck of a job with very limited talent outside of Reynolds.
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After a pretty rough start to the year, they've gotten hot at the right time.
The opposite of UWGB. Apparently they were playing some games and kept moving UWM's practice time around and the league had to get involved. Their new coach, Sundance Wicks, is a bit of a charlatan who won't last long there.
Good point, they had a poor start and looked like it may be another lost, forgettable season for that program. All about improving and playing your best now.
Didn’t know about league having to step in because of what GB was doing. I agree about Wicks. Thought he seemed like a bit of an oddball. But that was a dumpster fire too he took over and also made them more than competitive right away. Will be interesting how he ends up doing there.
Both programs seem in pretty good hands, which has pretty much never been the case at the same time. I really have no doubt that Lundy is a very solid coach.
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Interesting. I was wondering why there was no handshake line at the end of the game last night.
First time I've heard Wicks described that way though. Seems like he did a heck of a job with very limited talent outside of Reynolds.
Charlatan might be a strong word, but I am still not convinced he is there for the long run. Real Buzzesque vibes.
Reynolds was originally going to transfer to Madison, but backed out and went to GB when Wicks hired his older brother as an assistant. Rumors are that he is going to transfer again but would have to sit out a year.
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Good point, they had a poor start and looked like it may be another lost, forgettable season for that program. All about improving and playing your best now.
Didn’t know about league having to step in because of what GB was doing. I agree about Wicks. Thought he seemed like a bit of an oddball. But that was a dumpster fire too he took over and also made them more than competitive right away. Will be interesting how he ends up doing there.
Both programs seem in pretty good hands, which has pretty much never been the case at the same time. I really have no doubt that Lundy is a very solid coach.
UWGB is saying that they had to juggle times due to the women's team, and that might be the case and it all might be an innocent mistake. And maybe Lundy just used it to fire up his team, but no idea why he would rant on after the game about it if that were the case.
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UWGB is saying that they had to juggle times due to the women's team, and that might be the case and it all might be an innocent mistake. And maybe Lundy just used it to fire up his team, but no idea why he would rant on after the game about it if that were the case.
Hmm, will have to poke into this. Juicy little sidebar. Love it when coaches get on a good rant in postgame comments.
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Hmm, will have to poke into this. Juicy little sidebar. Love it when coaches get on a good rant in postgame comments.
https://x.com/JimmyLemke/status/1766017157219983467?s=20
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https://x.com/JimmyLemke/status/1766017157219983467?s=20
Now I see why Marquette is terrified to schedule UWM
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Bart Lundy and Milwaukee to Horizon semifinals on Monday to face Keeyan and No KY. Happy for both of them.
Lundy can coach. Milwaukee is a very difficult job- almost no local fan base, indifferent alumni, mediocre at best facilities, shadow of MU, etc. He took over a dumpster fire and has made them instantly competitive. Hope they win the tournament.
I know it’s a completely different talent level but they’ve got a kid who named BJ Freeman who has been filling up the stat sheet.
He’s 6’6, I haven’t seen him play, and I’m not sure what the advanced stats say but someone like that seems like a good fit to transfer up in the portal.
Domask is having a massive impact at Illinois this year so I wouldn’t discount someone like Freeman.
Not sure he has a BE body and maybe he’s not for higher end BE programs, but someone like DePaul should be all over a kid like that, and he should relish a move to a major conference if he really thinks he can play.
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Sure they exist. 9 of the 113 brackets currently on bracket matrix have MU as a 3 seed. Itll be a few more after the loss last night but not many.
In the end, only the selection commitees matters
Of the 45 brackets on bracketmatrix that have been updated since the UConn game, 30 of them have MU as a 2, 15 have MU as a 3. The most common team that bracketologists have replacing MU on the 2 line is Baylor. Root for Texas Tech on Saturday.
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I know it’s a completely different talent level but they’ve got a kid who named BJ Freeman who has been filling up the stat sheet.
He’s 6’6, I haven’t seen him play, and I’m not sure what the advanced stats say but someone like that seems like a good fit to transfer up in the portal.
Domask is having a massive impact at Illinois this year so I wouldn’t discount someone like Freeman.
Not sure he has a BE body and maybe he’s not for higher end BE programs, but someone like DePaul should be all over a kid like that, and he should relish a move to a major conference if he really thinks he can play.
Sounds like a fair price
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Instantly competitive? The are 235th Kenpom, beat 1 win Detroit, and dumpster fire UWGB to get to the semis.
Bart Lundy and Milwaukee to Horizon semifinals on Monday to face Keeyan and No KY. Happy for both of them.
Lundy can coach. Milwaukee is a very difficult job- almost no local fan base, indifferent alumni, mediocre at best facilities, shadow of MU, etc. He took over a dumpster fire and has made them instantly competitive. Hope they win the tournament.
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northern Kentucky, aside from keeyan, have another pretty decent player from eau Claire, wi. 6'8" forward LJ wells 8.5ppg /5.5 reb shooting 46.7% (40% from 3pt)
I did a game on radio Wells played in high school. Not surprised to see him having success at next level.
I'd argue on GB being a dumpster fire this year. They've had a decent season. May play in the CIT.
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Good point, they had a poor start and looked like it may be another lost, forgettable season for that program. All about improving and playing your best now.
Didn’t know about league having to step in because of what GB was doing. I agree about Wicks. Thought he seemed like a bit of an oddball. But that was a dumpster fire too he took over and also made them more than competitive right away. Will be interesting how he ends up doing there.
Both programs seem in pretty good hands, which has pretty much never been the case at the same time. I really have no doubt that Lundy is a very solid coach.
my buddy went to that game last night. Forwarded a few pics. Resch Center looks decent as an arena. I agree both GB and MKE are in a good place considering where they were just a season or two ago. I also think both Lundy and Wicks move up soon. Until then, another in state rivalry with some healthy hate is good!! 😊
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It’s hard for me to think of a team that just went to the last minute to beat 1-31 Detroit Mercy to be “hot”.
But, the 2,3, and 4 seeds in the Horizon tournament are already out, so maybe UWM can claim the auto bid.
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Will be interesting to see where this Temple story goes. Tonight wasn’t the only fishy line movement on a Temple game over the last month. I doubt their game this weekend is on any board.
Curious. This doesn't make it sound bad...
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39684848/temple-review-reports-unusual-wagering-uab-game
Westgate Las Vegas, said once the line reached 7, the money was even both sides, typically an indication a game is on the level.
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Kansas State up 13 on Iowa State.
Buzz’s Bunch up big against Ole Miss. could see a deep run from them in a few weeks
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Texas pounding Oklahoma. Helps the Marquette cause
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Iowa State loses, keeping the fight for the last two 2 seeds tight.
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Curious. This doesn't make it sound bad...
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39684848/temple-review-reports-unusual-wagering-uab-game
The Athletic article that came out this afternoon went into detail about what I mentioned. Several games over the last month had wild spread and totals movement.
From the article:
On Feb. 8, Temple hosted Memphis. About four hours before the game, Memphis was favored by 6.5 points, according to BetQL, which tracks point spreads. By game time, so much money had been bet against Temple that the line had expanded to 10.5. Memphis won 84-77.
On Feb. 28, Temple hosted Rice. The game’s point total opened at 144 before being bet up to 145. Then, in the hours before the game, the total was bet down from 145 to 140.5 — an indication that bettors suddenly had reason to believe one or both teams would not score as much as oddsmakers expected. Additionally, after opening at 68, the first-half point total steadily dropped to 66.5 throughout the day — and over the two hours before game time, the total dropped quickly from 66.5 to 64. The score at halftime was 28-19 (47 points), and Temple won the game 65-43 (108 total points).
Then, on March 2, Temple hosted Tulsa. In a two-hour period before tip-off, the game’s betting line for total points dropped drastically from 144 to 136.5, again suggesting that bettors had reason to believe one or both teams would score less than expected. Additionally, the team’s first-half point total betting line dropped from 68.5 to 62.5 in that time period, including a precipitous fall from 66.5 to 62.5 in about a one-hour period. Tulsa led at halftime 32-23 (55 points) and won the game 72-67 (139 points).
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Houston whooping Kansas bad.
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Degenerate-
As a true degenerate what are your thoughts on this?
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Kentucky up 10 early on Tennessee
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Degenerate-
As a true degenerate what are your thoughts on this?
Obvious something fishy is going on.
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Houston up 29 on Kansas
Kentucky up 5 on Tennessee with about 5 minutes left
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Kentucky up 7 at Tennessee with 2 minutes left
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Kentucky’s win at Tennessee might cost the Vols a 1 seed and brings UK into the conversation for a 3 seed.
The NCAA loves those big names.
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Texas Tech up 15 in the first half against Baylor
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He never had possession
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Kansas Dickenson hurt. Not sure prognosis but they would be a nice 3 to our 2 in a region.
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With Baylor’s loss to Texas Tech, I suspect they’ll move ahead of Marquette for seeding purposes
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Kansas Dickenson hurt. Not sure prognosis but they would be a nice 3 to our 2 in a region.
They are a 4 seed at best
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Princeton won the regular season Ivy title with a 105-83 win over Penn.
They are 24-3 on the season and, if they win the 4 team conference tournament (which is no given), they could be a first round challenge for a 4 or 5 seed. I don’t think they would be seeded 15 again this year. They have a Ken Pom rating of 52 and Yale and Cornell (2 of the teams they lost to on the road) are in the top 100.
I think the Ivies are benefitting from some of the transfer chaos because their players don’t transfer. So, they get teams with players who play together for several years.
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Drake knocks off Bradley. Brian Wardle is now free to take the DePaul job
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Drake knocks off Bradley. Brian Wardle is now free to take the DePaul job
Home run hire.
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Home run hire.
Maybe we can encourage Shaka to move on and pounce? 🤔
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Filipowski got some practice in when Wake fans rushed the court. https://twitter.com/RossUglem/status/1766618643490594825
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Filipowski looks pretty good considering he broke a leg and fractured a hip in the court storming at Wake
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Filipowski looks pretty good considering he broke a leg and fractured a hip in the court storming at Wake
That leg was in good enough shape to try and trip someone.
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Iowa State, Baylor, Duke, and Kansas all lose. If Creighton had lost it would have been a near perfect day.
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Filipowski looks pretty good considering he broke a leg and fractured a hip in the court storming at Wake
Don’t forget the concussion he got from sobbing so hard.
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So the top 6 seem pretty clear, right?
Houston
Uconn
Purdue
TN
UNC
AZ
Then a jumble of Marquette, Iowa St., Duke, Baylor, and Creighton. (After Kansas getting blown out and Dickinson getting hurt I can't imagine they can still get a 2). As wisblue said, a lot of losses in our favor today.
Curious to see what the updated brackets look like after this weekend. Also seems pretty clear there's no chance Marquette falls any lower than a 3 seed.
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Iowa State, Baylor, Duke, and Kansas all lose. If Creighton had lost it would have been a near perfect day.
Yup. Already did a quick scrub.
So that leaves
1. Houston, 2. Purdue 3. UConn (whoever wins their conf tourney gets the overall 1, if 2 win who knows?) 4. UNC. 5. Arizona, 6. Tennessee, 7. Marquette, 8. Creighton, 9. Iowa St, 10. Duke, 11. Baylor, 12. Kentucky.
Feels like those final 3 seeds are up for grabs. Kansas and Bama still in play there.
That second spot in Indy still in play with MU v Creighton. Could come down to the BET.
That said, is it better to lose game 1 to Providence or lose again to Creighton to stay ahead of them on the S Curve?
Weird question, I know, but it’s actually debatable if Tyler doesn’t play in the BET.
I saw Creighton coming strong for that Indy spot and Marquette might actually still get a 2 but lose Indy, odd end of the season
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Duke students throwing stuff at UNC players after the game. I look forward to Jay Bilas calling for all concessions to be banned.
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Duke students throwing stuff at UNC players after the game. I look forward to Jay Bilas calling for all concessions to be banned.
Saw people wearing UNC Gear at the Beach and at Costco today. May be a sign they are building momentum
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Duke students throwing stuff at UNC players after the game. I look forward to Jay Bilas calling for all concessions to be banned.
MU did that in 1986. Kids. ::)
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Arizona in big trouble. Bronnys Trojans up 11 at the under 8, LeBron in the house
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Arizona in big trouble. Bronnys Trojans up 11 at the under 8, LeBron in the house
USC just punked Zona. This should give the committee something to think about.
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MU did that in 1986. Kids. ::)
I remember that game too well. And I think it was coins that were thrown at UNC players.
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USC just punked Zona. This should give the committee something to think about.
Not much to think about Muggsy, 2 seed out west.
They looked brutal tonight, like really bad.
Wish Marquette had them in their path, but won’t happen. They will be lined up with the last 1 seed probably, unless they lose in game 1 in the conference tourney and fall behind teams like Marquette and Creighton and end up in the Midwest.
Seems unlikely though, as the bracketologists and the committee to follow are creatures of habit and stick with what’s been said in the past month.
They are so engrained in people’s mind as a 1/2 that I think it’s hard to move to a back end 3 and end up in the Midwest or out east.
Kansas might be a bit different because it’s been a longer problem and there’s injury stuff.
Arizonas top end wins and numbers are too good to not be out west barring an early loss in Vegas and a Creighton or Marquette BET win over UConn plus some B12 magic from the other 2s
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Not much to think about Muggsy, 2 seed out west.
They looked brutal tonight, like really bad.
Wish Marquette had them in their path, but won’t happen. They will be lined up with the last 1 seed probably, unless they lose in game 1 in the conference tourney and fall behind teams like Marquette and Creighton and end up in the Midwest.
Seems unlikely though, as the bracketologists and the committee to follow are creatures of habit and stick with what’s been said in the past month.
They are so engrained in people’s mind as a 1/2 that I think it’s hard to move to a back end 3 and end up in the Midwest or out east.
Kansas might be a bit different because it’s been a longer problem and there’s injury stuff.
Arizonas top end wins and numbers are too good to not be out west barring an early loss in Vegas and a Creighton or Marquette BET win over UConn plus some B12 magic from the other 2s
I think we're a 2 right now and can't slip past a 3.
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Yup. Already did a quick scrub.
So that leaves
1. Houston, 2. Purdue 3. UConn (whoever wins their conf tourney gets the overall 1, if 2 win who knows?) 4. UNC. 5. Arizona, 6. Tennessee, 7. Marquette, 8. Creighton, 9. Iowa St, 10. Duke, 11. Baylor, 12. Kentucky.
Feels like those final 3 seeds are up for grabs. Kansas and Bama still in play there.
That second spot in Indy still in play with MU v Creighton. Could come down to the BET.
That said, is it better to lose game 1 to Providence or lose again to Creighton to stay ahead of them on the S Curve?
Weird question, I know, but it’s actually debatable if Tyler doesn’t play in the BET.
I saw Creighton coming strong for that Indy spot and Marquette might actually still get a 2 but lose Indy, odd end of the season
This looks right, but I think the BET semi final will determine who gets the 2 - assuming both teams make it.
If we getvtherr, and Tyler hadn't played in quarters - do you maybe go w him even if he's not 100% w a 2 seed on the line?
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I remember that game too well. And I think it was coins that were thrown at UNC players.
So MU was just progressive on the NIL front?
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This looks right, but I think the BET semi final will determine who gets the 2 - assuming both teams make it.
If we getvtherr, and Tyler hadn't played in quarters - do you maybe go w him even if he's not 100% w a 2 seed on the line?
I agree that the BET will decide the relative seeding between MU and Creighton.
I also agree that MU is slightly ahead of CU now but, if CU beats MU in the semifinal,that would flip them ahead. I also think they go ahead if MU loses to Nova and CU advances to the final. It would be a closer call if Nova would also beat CU in the semifinal.
I would absolutely not play Kolek if he is not completely ready just to try to improve NCAA seeding. I don’t think having one of the last number 2 seeds as opposed to one of the top 3 seeds makes enough difference in the team’s prospects for advancement in the NCAA (if it makes any difference at all) to warrant rushing Kolek into action.
We should have some discussion over the next few days about the advantage of having a 2 seed vs a 3 seed. Maybe I’ll start a separate thread for that.
BTW, I don’t necessarily agree that MU and CU are currently in consecutive positions on the NCAA seed list, or that they are ahead of all of Iowa State, Baylor, and Duke. I think those teams are pretty tightly bunched.
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I have Marquette on the 5 line if they lose to Creighton
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So the top 6 seem pretty clear, right?
Houston
Uconn
Purdue
TN
UNC
AZ
after Az loss to usc, I don't believe you could keep them in top 6. Tennessee as well.
Then a jumble of Marquette, Iowa St., Duke, Baylor, and Creighton. (After Kansas getting blown out and Dickinson getting hurt I can't imagine they can still get a 2). As wisblue said, a lot of losses in our favor today.
Curious to see what the updated brackets look like after this weekend. Also seems pretty clear there's no chance Marquette falls any lower than a 3 seed.
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So MU was just progressive on the NIL front?
Yeah, but throwing money at UNC rather than giving it to Marquette players?
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I have Marquette on the 5 line if they lose to Creighton
Of the NIT bracket right? 🤔
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Games that will help determine Marquette’s seeding being played today:
Wisconsin at Purdue: Gard just gets it done and a win today could see the Badger steal a 3-seed from Marquette
North Dakota State at St. Thomas: A St. Thomas win helps our SOS
Also:
Arch Madness championship game is today. Brian Wardle has been eliminated but either the Drake or Indiana State coach could be in play if Shaka takes the Louisville or DePaul job. Good chance to watch these coaches operate
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Of the NIT bracket right? 🤔
Depends on how many bid thieves there are. After our loss last night, I am a bit worried about getting on the bubble
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Games that will help determine Marquette’s seeding being played today:
Wisconsin at Purdue: Gard just gets it done and a win today could see the Badger steal a 3-seed from Marquette
North Dakota State at St. Thomas: A St. Thomas win helps our SOS
Also:
Arch Madness championship game is today. Brian Wardle has been eliminated but either the Drake or Indiana State coach could be in play if Shaka takes the Louisville or DePaul job. Good chance to watch these coaches operate
😆
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Depends on how many bid thieves there are. After our loss last night, I am a bit worried about getting on the bubble
I’m not going to be able to sleep for the next week.
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Morehead State gets the autobid for the OVC last night. Potential 15-seed
Longwood up 18 in the Big South final at halftime. They finished 6-12 in league
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Morehead State gets the autobid for the OVC last night. Potential 15-seed
Longwood up 18 in the Big South final at halftime. They finished 6-12 in league
Do we want Morehead or Longwood?
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Do we want Morehead or Longwood?
Yes
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Do we want Morehead or Longwood?
Longwood is a great porn star name, so Longwood it is.
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And Morehead isn’t?
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Do we want Morehead or Longwood?
As an Evangelical Christian, I’ll have to pray for an answer
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Badgers playing great this morning. Have Purdue where they want them.
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And Morehead isn’t?
Longwood with the 27 in, er, point lead
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Badgers within 4 at Purdue. Gard just gets it done
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Longwood with the 27 in, er, point lead
Grandstaff transfer there?
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Badgers within 4 at Purdue. Gard just gets it done
Expect Badgers to jump MU
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Princeton won the regular season Ivy title with a 105-83 win over Penn.
They are 24-3 on the season and, if they win the 4 team conference tournament (which is no given), they could be a first round challenge for a 4 or 5 seed. I don’t think they would be seeded 15 again this year. They have a Ken Pom rating of 52 and Yale and Cornell (2 of the teams they lost to on the road) are in the top 100.
I think the Ivies are benefitting from some of the transfer chaos because their players don’t transfer. So, they get teams with players who play together for several years.
Henderson is a really good coach. Gotta think he’s gonna be in play for some openings unless he wants to be the next Pete Carill.
Arizona in big trouble. Bronnys Trojans up 11 at the under 8, LeBron in the house
Bronny with 5pts and 5 rebounds. Easy to see why he’s a one and done and Lebron said he’s better than multiple guys in the Lakers
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Governors up early on the Hatters
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Expect Badgers to jump MU
I’d think so
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Expect Badgers to jump MU
Lol.
Hopefully Crowl is back and Blackwell transfers.
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Lol.
Hopefully Crowl is back and Blackwell transfers.
Extend Gard!
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Will Wisconsin make it to 20 wins?
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Ending of UW and Purdue is why I won’t bet on sports.
Purdue -9.5
-Purdue up 13 with 1 min. They don’t shoot and take shot clock violation
-Badgers hit 3 with 20 seconds to cut to 10
-Storr steals it from a walk on and dunks to cut it to 8
Badgers cover.
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Storr may get his legs broken by some degenerate gamblers
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Also why everyone hates Badger basketball!
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Ending of UW and Purdue is why I won’t bet on sports.
Purdue -9.5
-Purdue up 13 with 1 min. They don’t shoot and take shot clock violation
-Badgers hit 3 with 20 seconds to cut to 10
-Storr steals it from a walk on and dunks to cut it to 8
Badgers cover.
Counts as a Badger win
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Refs really cooked the Badgers. I count that as a win for them and hope the committee does as well
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Refs really cooked the Badgers. I count that as a win for them and hope the committee does as well
Blackwell and Wahl really look to initiate contact . That may play in the Big 18, but the NCAA tourney seems to call those as offensive fouls. If I were a betting man, I would take whomever the Badgers are playing in R1.
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Refs really cooked the Badgers. I count that as a win for them and hope the committee does as well
Even though there were no Badger injuries, Wisconsin was missing all their athletic players, which the committee should take into account.
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Bucknell looking to pull a huge upset over Colgate in the Patriot League semi’s
Drake up 13 at half on Indiana State
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Indiana st should probably get an at large even if they lose. But they have just the resume the committee likes to first 4 out
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Indiana st should probably get an at large even if they lose. But they have just the resume the committee likes to first 4 out
No they shouldn't. They lost, at home, by 13, to Illinois St. Their best (and only) Q1 win is @ Bradley.
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Indiana st should probably get an at large even if they lose. But they have just the resume the committee likes to first 4 out
They showed a graphic during the game IS 1-3 quad 1 and Drake 3-1
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No they shouldn't. They lost, at home, by 13, to Illinois St. Their best (and only) Q1 win is @ Bradley.
T-Rank has Indiana State ranked 21st in Strength of Record, they absolutely should be in.
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T-Rank has Indiana State ranked 21st in Strength of Record, they absolutely should be in.
Yes, they should
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T-Rank has Indiana State ranked 21st in Strength of Record, they absolutely should be in.
Absolutely? Absolutely not.
They might get in and deserve to be in the convo. But they would deservedly be right on the bubble. Either last 4 in or 1st 4 out.
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Bucknell looking to pull a huge upset over Colgate in the Patriot League semi’s
Drake up 13 at half on Indiana State
Scoopers fear Bucknell in Round 1
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Scoopers fear Bucknell in Round 1
Based on your posts yesterday, yes, I do believe you’d fear Bucknell
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Absolutely? Absolutely not.
They might get in and deserve to be in the convo. But they would deservedly be right on the bubble. Either last 4 in or 1st 4 out.
Does Dayton, who is about the same as them in this metric and 10 or so spots ahead of them in Kenpom deserve to be a lock like they are?
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Does Dayton, who is about the same as them in this metric and 10 or so spots ahead of them in Kenpom deserve to be a lock like they are?
Yes because Dayton doesnt have a Q4 loss. Has 2 more Q1 wins. 2 more Q1/Q2 wins. And their lone Q1 win isnt goddamn Bradley
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Yes because Dayton doesnt have a Q4 loss. Has 2 more Q1 wins. 2 more Q1/Q2 wins. And their lone Q1 win isnt goddamn Bradley
They both could deserve it based on the metrics, ya know
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Based on your posts yesterday, yes, I do believe you’d fear Bucknell
No - I fear no one in Round 1 - remember I helped ruin the tourney vibe for FiveDollar contributing to the hubris spewed by the board rightfully looking past Vermont.
Wait to this year, practiced hubris all off-season..
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They both could deserve it based on the metrics, ya know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10XXtoCjk5c
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The MVC game is great on CBS
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Indiana State wow. From down 18 to tied in 5 minutes.
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Indiana State wow. From down 18 to tied in 5 minutes.
Wild game. Patriot League semi came down to the wire, too, with Colgate hanging on.
A-Sun final coming down to the wire.
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Stetson hangs on to win the ASun.
4 teams dancing
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Drake, with their transfer center from Seton Hall, is in.
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Wild game. Patriot League semi came down to the wire, too, with Colgate hanging on.
A-Sun final coming down to the wire.
Don't want MU to face any of these teams, period!
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Drake, with their transfer center from Seton Hall, is in.
Brendan Bailey was in the same freshman class as him. Forgot that name.
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I4 can help Marquette's cause
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Was Hoping Robbie Avila of Indian State could have made the tournament. Would have been a fun story.
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Izzo loses again!!!
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Izzo loses again!!!
I4 helped our cause
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Put Indiana State in over Michigan State
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Put Indiana State in over Michigan State
Let Magic play Bird 1 on 1 to see whose alma mater gets in
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Let Magic play Bird 1 on 1 to see whose alma mater gets in
Magic vs Bird isn't good for basketball. ;D
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Izzo loses again!!!
Outstanding.
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Would you take Essegian He won't be back.
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St. Thomas into the Summit semis. One step closer to the big east invite
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Would you take Essegian He won't be back.
Depends how many spots we have open. If only one, I think we could do better. I think Hepburn is a fit here but also could probably do better there as well.
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Was Hoping Robbie Avila of Indian State could have made the tournament. Would have been a fun story.
They still could sneak in…. ..
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Depends how many spots we have open. If only one, I think we could do better. I think Hepburn is a fit here but also could probably do better there as well.
It's interesting Essegian didn't play in a game where Wisky couldn't make a three. I can't see Hepburn leaving or interested in MU. I tend to agree we could do better but Essegian at one point could shoot. That said I think I would just stick with our guys.
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Would you take Essegian He won't be back.
I don't think Essegian plays defense at the level Shaka wants. Defense is a big reason why Essegian fell out of favor with Gard in the first place.
My hunch is that Essegian stays in the B1G. Nebraska, Iowa, and Indiana are some teams I'd expect to be interested in him.
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It's interesting Essegian didn't play in a game where Wisky couldn't make a three. I can't see Hepburn leaving or interested in MU. I tend to agree we could do better but Essegian at one point could shoot. That said I think I would just stick with our guys.
Nope. He’s buried because of his defense and he hasn’t been particularly good shooting this year either. He’s 29% from 3.
FWIW, I think he had some nagging, early season injuries and just never found a spot or rhythm again
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Depends how many spots we have open. If only one, I think we could do better. I think Hepburn is a fit here but also could probably do better there as well.
Not with that over the top ugly hairdo!
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Pretty interesting answer from Pitino on the state of CBB.
https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1767266202852749569?t=ERMT8_3JO3Y-GIVHils8cQ&s=19
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Pretty interesting answer from Pitino on the state of CBB.
https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1767266202852749569?t=ERMT8_3JO3Y-GIVHils8cQ&s=19
Eh, he can always retire. Someone else will do it instead.
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Eh, he can always retire. Someone else will do it instead.
Of course he could...but that doesn't change the state of College Hoops.
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Eh, he can always retire. Someone else will do it instead.
In sort of paraphrasing his comment here, have the players be employees and sign them to 2,3 or4 year contracts (with a non compete clause) with an out if entering the NBA draft. Div 1 would obviously be different and much smaller. Writing is on the wall, especially given court activity?
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Of course he could...but that doesn't change the state of College Hoops.
College hoops is fine.
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In sort of paraphrasing his comment here, have the players be employees and sign them to 2,3 or4 year contracts (with a non compete clause) with an out if entering the NBA draft. Div 1 would obviously be different and much smaller. Writing is on the wall, especially given court activity?
Pretty much.
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Nope. He’s buried because of his defense and he hasn’t been particularly good shooting this year either. He’s 29% from 3.
FWIW, I think he had some nagging, early season injuries and just never found a spot or rhythm again
It's hard to glean much regarding his shooting percentage when he plays spot minutes. We know he could shoot last year. Maybe he's psychologically broken from the Harvard of the Midwest curriculum?
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In sort of paraphrasing his comment here, have the players be employees and sign them to 2,3 or4 year contracts (with a non compete clause) with an out if entering the NBA draft. Div 1 would obviously be different and much smaller. Writing is on the wall, especially given court activity?
Good luck with the bolded. Courts in many states often side with the defendants challenging non-compete agreements as the courts see it as a restraint on trade. I had some first hand experience as an employer and was able to prevent a competitor from poaching, but the language of my non compete was carefully written so that it did not unduly restrict the former employee.
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It's hard to glean much regarding his shooting percentage when he plays spot minutes. We know he could shoot last year. Maybe he's psychologically broken from the Harvard of the Midwest curriculum?
I don’t think he’s that good.
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Pretty interesting answer from Pitino on the state of CBB.
https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1767266202852749569?t=ERMT8_3JO3Y-GIVHils8cQ&s=19
More interesting was when he gave his 8 title contenders but then spent the whole time focusing on 4 teams
UConn, Purdue, Houston…….us
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Good luck with the bolded. Courts in many states often side with the defendants challenging non-compete agreements as the courts see it as a restraint on trade. I had some first hand experience as an employer and was able to prevent a competitor from poaching, but the language of my non compete was carefully written so that it did not unduly restrict the former employee.
Not all non-competes are created equally. They can be easily enforced if crafted the right way, the employee is considered 'key' and especially if they are tied to an employment contract. Seen it myself many times and personally held to one that a very good law firm could not help me break. I also live in a state that would be considered very pro-employee when it comes to non-competes.
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Not all non-competes are created equally. They can be easily enforced if crafted the right way, the employee is considered 'key' and especially if they are tied to an employment contract. Seen it myself many times and personally held to one that a very good law firm could not help me break. I also live in a state that would be considered very pro-employee when it comes to non-competes.
The state one lives in definitely has a lot to do with the probability of enforcement. Would it not be conceivable that a recruit would take that into account before committing? I think so. And that is assuming that the non-compete clause along with a contractual relationship is a requirement in every team. What would preclude some schools from saying "No contract here!, We'll take our chances."?
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There wouldn't be non-competes. Why would any player sign a contract that binds them to one school?
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There wouldn't be non-competes. Why would any player sign a contract that binds them to one school?
Thank you.
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Charleston hangs on to get to the Coastal finals. RIP Colonial
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James Madison well on their way to the NCAA Tournament for the first time since 2013
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There wouldn't be non-competes. Why would any player sign a contract that binds them to one school?
$$$$
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$$$$
I'm not sure the school has much interest in tying themselves down either.
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South Dakota State about to end the season of St. Thomas. The Tommies will always have their win against Marquette to remember this season
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The Big Sky Tournament is a mess. Montana, the 3-seed is the best team left. They’re also the only team with a winning record of the 5 teams left. Edit: Portland State is 17-14 and playing Montana tonight
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Samford punches their first ticket to the dance since 2000 winning the SoCon tourney. 29-5 record
Great name gets lots of minutes, too. Achor Achor had 25 points, 9 boards and 4 blocks
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College hoops is fine.
Whatever "fine" means. His point is obvious - players don't think they're getting enough playing time, they transfer out. And the timeline for when they can do that makes it difficult to build continuity. Any employer who basically has to manage at MOST a 4 year "staff/team" would have a difficult enough time to run a business. Now if that team was structured so that the staff/team members/employees can leave at anytime, the difficulty to create an effective, successful business or team increases.
So, I'm not sure college basketball is fine. But the reality is, this is where we are now. So, Pitino is not wrong IMO.
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Keeyan on ESPN2 as N. Kentucky is taking on UW-M.
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I believe both of the head coaches are former MU assistants as well. Horn and Lundy
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I believe both of the head coaches are former MU assistants as well. Horn and Lundy
That's right. Their tenures didn't overlap though.
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Whatever "fine" means. His point is obvious - players don't think they're getting enough playing time, they transfer out. And the timeline for when they can do that makes it difficult to build continuity. Any employer who basically has to manage at MOST a 4 year "staff/team" would have a difficult enough time to run a business. Now if that team was structured so that the staff/team members/employees can leave at anytime, the difficulty to create an effective, successful business or team increases.
So, I'm not sure college basketball is fine. But the reality is, this is where we are now. So, Pitino is not wrong IMO.
I get the gist of what you are saying, but just as employees who believe that they are not receiving their just due in terms of income, promotion, input/being listened to should be free to leave, players who believe that they are not getting the playing time or are not being used to their best potential should be free to leave.
It took me a while to learn how to do it, but by hiring people who I knew would fit into the culture of my small manufacturing company and keeping them personally invested in many ways, I had long term employees. They were free to leave, but chose to stay. Turnover was not a problem.
Shaka has brought in players who fit his system and has a culture that, although it is still early with this being his third year, seems to be working well. They have chosen to stay.
Pitino bemoans the ease of transferring yet he kept only one player from last year's team. He brought in many transfers from other teams including some from Iona (right?) and he left Iona with years left on his contract. What's the best word to describe Pitino's bitching? Hypocrisy or irony?
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Keeyan on ESPN2 as N. Kentucky is taking on UW-M.
Big second half for the Panthers.
I'd love a dude like Fields on the glass at MU. Swung the game for them and then Freeman got going.
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More interesting was when he gave his 8 title contenders but then spent the whole time focusing on 4 teams
UConn, Purdue, Houston…….us
Pitino has always spoke fondly of Marquette.
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I get the gist of what you are saying, but just as employees who believe that they are not receiving their just due in terms of income, promotion, input/being listened to should be free to leave, players who believe that they are not getting the playing time or are not being used to their best potential should be free to leave.
It took me a while to learn how to do it, but by hiring people who I knew would fit into the culture of my small manufacturing company and keeping them personally invested in many ways, I had long term employees. They were free to leave, but chose to stay. Turnover was not a problem.
Shaka has brought in players who fit his system and has a culture that, although it is still early with this being his third year, seems to be working well. They have chosen to stay.
Pitino bemoans the ease of transferring yet he kept only one player from last year's team. He brought in many transfers from other teams including some from Iona (right?) and he left Iona with years left on his contract. What's the best word to describe Pitino's bitching? Hypocrisy or irony?
Scoop, excellent points. I just have concerns about how this will all shake out. I grew up in an era when you played on sports teams with your neighbors, then your classmates and community. Then my kids started out the same, but gradually, kids were "recruited" by other high schools and moved into another district to play on a better team, Then AAU ball replaced high school ball in terms of where the best players played. I get it, times change, the game evolves, and college sports are changing. gain, I'm not sure college basketball is "fine."
Thanks for letting an "old school," old guy vent.
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Pitino bemoans the ease of transferring yet he kept only one player from last year's team. He brought in many transfers from other teams including some from Iona (right?) and he left Iona with years left on his contract. What's the best word to describe Pitino's bitching? Hypocrisy or irony?
This same thing happened with Kiffin talking about the portal in CFB. Commentary on the new norm portrayed as sour grapes.
I didn’t view it as bitching at all. He was speaking of the difficulties and challenges that the new NIL/transfer rules world has brought. Especially for guys who have coached for 20+ years in CBB/CFB and enjoyed/preferred aspects of it. He also said he didn’t blame players at all. Bitching would be calling it unfair or moaning that you’re getting screwed. Reasonable pragmatic critique of the current CBB world by a top 10 CBB coach of all time isn’t bitching. But then again, it’s Pitino so I’m sure the bias is dyed in wool for some here. If Jay Wright gave the same interview I wouldn’t be surprised to see it viewed differently here.
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This same thing happened with Kiffin talking about the portal in CFB. Commentary on the new norm portrayed as sour grapes.
I didn’t view it as bitching at all. He was speaking of the difficulties and challenges that the new NIL/transfer rules world has brought. Especially for guys who have coached for 20+ years in CBB/CFB and enjoyed/preferred aspects of it. He also said he didn’t blame players at all. Bitching would be calling it unfair or moaning that you’re getting screwed. Reasonable pragmatic critique of the current CBB world by a top 10 CBB coach of all time isn’t bitching. But then again, it’s Pitino so I’m sure the bias is dyed in wool for some here. If Jay Wright gave the same interview I wouldn’t be surprised to see it viewed differently here.
Didn't see Pitino's comments, but there's been plenty of bitching from coaches on this topic.
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UWM plays for a dance bid tonight. The school Marquette fears most might force their way in. Hope the Golden Eagles don’t draw them
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I believe both of the head coaches are former MU assistants as well. Horn and Lundy
And predictably since this game was played in March the Buzz assistant beat the TC assistant.
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UWM plays for a dance bid tonight. The school Marquette fears most might force their way in. Hope the Golden Eagles don’t draw them
MUvUWM would be the battle for the heart and soul of Milwaukee. EPIC wouldn't even begin to describe it.
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UWM plays for a dance bid tonight. The school Marquette fears most might force their way in. Hope the Golden Eagles don’t draw them
Playing UWM - the hubris is just waiting to burst out…
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Scoop, excellent points. I just have concerns about how this will all shake out. I grew up in an era when you played on sports teams with your neighbors, then your classmates and community. Then my kids started out the same, but gradually, kids were "recruited" by other high schools and moved into another district to play on a better team, Then AAU ball replaced high school ball in terms of where the best players played. I get it, times change, the game evolves, and college sports are changing. gain, I'm not sure college basketball is "fine."
Thanks for letting an "old school," old guy vent.
You're welcome, from another "old school" old guy. I appreciated your drawing an analogy between business and coaching. In the first year (or maybe two) of forming my company, I was in the "old school" mode. Didn't work. It was time to retool myself as an employer.
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I get the gist of what you are saying, but just as employees who believe that they are not receiving their just due in terms of income, promotion, input/being listened to should be free to leave, players who believe that they are not getting the playing time or are not being used to their best potential should be free to leave.
It took me a while to learn how to do it, but by hiring people who I knew would fit into the culture of my small manufacturing company and keeping them personally invested in many ways, I had long term employees. They were free to leave, but chose to stay. Turnover was not a problem.
Shaka has brought in players who fit his system and has a culture that, although it is still early with this being his third year, seems to be working well. They have chosen to stay.
Pitino bemoans the ease of transferring yet he kept only one player from last year's team. He brought in many transfers from other teams including some from Iona (right?) and he left Iona with years left on his contract. What's the best word to describe Pitino's bitching? Hypocrisy or irony?
This is 100% correct. Build a great culture, show how you can progress within that culture, and add some people as others find its not for them or underperform, is going to be the way people can find success long-term.
And again, college basketball is fine. The product is about what it has always been. The TV numbers will be roughly what they have been since the one-and-done era took the multi-year stars out of the game.
And I don't give a rip about what coaches say about this topic. They have enriched themselves exercising a huge degree of control on student athletes who were clearly under-compensated. Of course they are going to bemoan an era where they lose some of that control and have to come up with the $$$ for the student athletes.
If Jay Wright or Roy Williams or Rick Pitino don't like it, they can retire or find something else to do. There will be others to take their place.
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I do get the hand wringing from not just coaches but also fans worrying about transfers. It's just the way it is. Deal with it.
I'm heading out of town shortly for the day, so will not rejoin this discussion for a while.
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I do get the hand wringing from not just coaches but also fans worrying about transfers. It's just the way it is. Deal with it.
I'm heading out of town shortly for the day, so will not rejoin this discussion for a while.
Fans hand-wring about absolutely everything...see Muggsy.
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There wouldn't be non-competes. Why would any player sign a contract that binds them to one school?
That is a separate issue and question than the enforceability of non-competes.
I don't think there will be non-competes either. I think the issue will be handled like is has been for decades in pro sports through collective bargaining terms.
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It could be argued the new landscape has led to more parity in college basketball. Low and mid major stars transferring up, high major recruits transferring down or across. Jumping early to the G League is a pay cut with NIL. The extra COVID year is still playing through as well. One doesn't need to look further than the All Big East team or last year's Final 4.
Roy, K, Jay, Boeheim saw their monopolies threatened. They got out like Al did when their landscapes changed.
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This is 100% correct. Build a great culture, show how you can progress within that culture, and add some people as others find its not for them or underperform, is going to be the way people can find success long-term.
And again, college basketball is fine. The product is about what it has always been. The TV numbers will be roughly what they have been since the one-and-done era took the multi-year stars out of the game.
And I don't give a rip about what coaches say about this topic. They have enriched themselves exercising a huge degree of control on student athletes who were clearly under-compensated. Of course they are going to bemoan an era where they lose some of that control and have to come up with the $$$ for the student athletes.
If Jay Wright or Roy Williams or Rick Pitino don't like it, they can retire or find something else to do. There will be others to take their place.
Yep.
I wish I had $10 for every time someone said (insert change or crisis here) would "ruin" (insert sport here).
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Yep.
I wish I had $10 for every time someone said (insert change or crisis here) would "ruin" (insert sport here).
Not saying you're wrong, but boxing and horse racing used to be the top two sports in America. Nothing impossible.
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Not saying you're wrong, but boxing and horse racing used to be the top two sports in America. Nothing impossible.
Maybe the Eeyores will be right and college basketball will become boxing. It won't happen in my lifetime, but sure, anything's possible.
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Maybe the Eeyores will be right and college basketball will become boxing. It won't happen in my lifetime, but sure, anything's possible.
Some would argue that when Greyson Allen and Brad Davison played it was boxing.
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Some would argue that when Greyson Allen and Brad Davison played it was boxing.
They played something. Not quite boxing, not quite basketball.
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They played something. Not quite boxing, not quite basketball.
;D
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St. Louis taking on Rhode Island today in the A-10 tourney. Big opportunity to solidify their Big East bona fides. Expect millions of St. Louis fans to flood Brooklyn for this game
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St. Louis taking on Rhode Island today in the A-10 tourney. Big opportunity to solidify their Big East bona fides. Expect millions of St. Louis fans to flood Brooklyn for this game
You just going to ignore that UWM is playing for a bid tonight?
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You just going to ignore that UWM is playing for a bid tonight?
Already mentioned it. Huge night for the part of the Marquette fanbase terrified of playing them
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Already mentioned it. Huge night for the part of the Marquette fanbase terrified of playing them
Must have blacked out...
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Huge win for St. Louis. Better win for the city of Brooklyn with million of fans remaining in the city
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Already mentioned it. Huge night for the part of the Marquette fanbase terrified of playing them
I can see why MU is scared, UWM makes midrange shots. The big O up 4 at half thankfully
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I can see why MU is scared, UWM makes midrange shots. The big O up 4 at half thankfully
The tension around tonight is palpable. Marquette fans sweating buckets in fear of UWM going farther in the dance
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Milwaukee tied with Oakland with 8:25 left
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Milwaukee up 4 with 6:00 left. Insert Ron Paul GIF
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Will the winner of this game be a #15 seed?
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Fun game to watch, UWM I like the way they play.
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That Oakland zone will be shredded by a 2 seed.
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Will the winner of this game be a #15 seed?
14-15
Wagner won a bid and they’ll push some teams up a spot
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So sad for UW-M…. So sad for lost hubris.
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Looks like Marquette dodges a bullet as Oakland will defeat UWM.
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14-15
Wagner won a bid and they’ll push some teams up a spot
Doesn't matter. The match up is more important than the seed. ;)
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Some guard on Stony Brook just fired up a hook shot. 73-73 on CBS Sports with 18 seconds left
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It could be argued the new landscape has led to more parity in college basketball. Low and mid major stars transferring up, high major recruits transferring down or across. Jumping early to the G League is a pay cut with NIL. The extra COVID year is still playing through as well. One doesn't need to look further than the All Big East team or last year's Final 4.
Roy, K, Jay, Boeheim saw their monopolies threatened. They got out like Al did when their landscapes changed.
Those guys were pretty freaking old as well. It was time. I believe if they were all 10 years younger they’d be in the game still.
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Those guys were pretty freaking old as well. It was time. I believe if they were all 10 years younger they’d be in the game still.
I assume you mean besides Jay?
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I assume you mean besides Jay?
Correct. Roy, Mike and Jim would have retired regardless most likely.
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Overtime in the Coastal final. 7-seed Stony Brook had a couple chances but didn’t take advantage. Charleston is the 1-seed. League wants Charleston to win. Stony Brook would not be nearly as highly seeded as Charleston
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Charleston or Oakland could possibly be 1st round opponents should Marquette drop to a 3 seed.
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Charleston or Oakland could possibly be 1st round opponents should Marquette drop to a 3 seed.
Don’t have to worry about that
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Who would Jamal Cain cheer for in a Marquette Oakland matchup
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Overtime in the Coastal final. 7-seed Stony Brook had a couple chances but didn’t take advantage. Charleston is the 1-seed. League wants Charleston to win. Stony Brook would not be nearly as highly seeded as Charleston
Was a good game. Probably better that these top seeds are winning as they would have a chance in a first round game.
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Who would Jamal Cain cheer for in a Marquette Oakland matchup
Probably his former coach and teammates at Oakland. He didn’t play for Shaka and I think the only teammate remaining at MU is Oso.
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Was a good game. Probably better that these top seeds are winning as they would have a chance in a first round game.
Conference tourney week is awesome, but I prefer the higher seeds win to make the games next week more interesting. Wagner/Merrimack difference was probably minimal in the grand scheme but had Stony Brook won, Coastal would have been bummed with their seeding.
UC-Irvine, McNeese State and Grand Canyon are others worth keeping an eye on.
Samford and JMU could be a problem for someone, too
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Looks like Marquette dodges a bullet as Oakland will defeat UWM.
I will fast for 72 hours as promised.
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Unk who do we want here Zaga or Mary's?
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Mary's it was
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Mary's it was
Gonzaga is very fortunate they beat UK.
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Looks like Marquette dodges a bullet as Oakland will defeat UWM.
Phew! I am SO relieved!
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14-15
Wagner won a bid and they’ll push some teams up a spot
The last time Wagner was in the tournament, Marquette made the final four.
Stars beginning to align.
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Gonzaga is very fortunate they beat UK.
Does Mary's help our cause?
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Does Mary's help our cause?
It screws the Big East
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It screws the Big East
Santa Maria y Aloysius de Gonzaga se están transfiriendo a al Grande Este
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I get the gist of what you are saying, but just as employees who believe that they are not receiving their just due in terms of income, promotion, input/being listened to should be free to leave, players who believe that they are not getting the playing time or are not being used to their best potential should be free to leave.
It took me a while to learn how to do it, but by hiring people who I knew would fit into the culture of my small manufacturing company and keeping them personally invested in many ways, I had long term employees. They were free to leave, but chose to stay. Turnover was not a problem.
Shaka has brought in players who fit his system and has a culture that, although it is still early with this being his third year, seems to be working well. They have chosen to stay.
Pitino bemoans the ease of transferring yet he kept only one player from last year's team. He brought in many transfers from other teams including some from Iona (right?) and he left Iona with years left on his contract. What's the best word to describe Pitino's bitching? Hypocrisy or irony?
You can understand the game, but not like the way it is played while advocating for a new way to play it.
Pitino is no fool.
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Some would argue that when Greyson Allen and Brad Davison played it was boxing.
Davidson definitely practiced on the speed bag
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St. Louis has a big game tonight against Duquesne in the A-10 tournament. With millions of Billiken fans in Brooklyn, they’ll have a distinct home court advantage.
They should be prohibitive favorites against the Dukes. Rumor has it Yadier Molina will be in attendance
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Tough finish for Oklahoma who lose to TCU.
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Tough finish for Oklahoma who lose to TCU.
2-6 since Feb. 13 ... 5-9 since Jan. 23 ... 7-11 since their 13-1 start against mostly garbage competition.
Went 6-14 after a 9-3 start in 2022-23, too.
Also had a 2-11 stretch in Moser's first season at Oklahoma.
We got the right guy.
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2-6 since Feb. 13 ... 5-9 since Jan. 23 ... 7-11 since their 13-1 start against mostly garbage competition.
Went 6-14 after a 9-3 start in 2022-23, too.
Also had a 2-11 stretch in Moser's first season at Oklahoma.
We got the right guy.
Hes spinnin it
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1768035742247260337
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McNeese State is dancing. 30-3 overall and on an 11-game winning streak. Will Wade with a strong ass team
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St. Louis is down 4 at halftime against Duquesne
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Syracuse has really elevated its program in the ACC.
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Colgate will be punching its ticket shortly
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Colgate will be punching its ticket shortly
Or squeezing the tube.
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The dentists' choice.
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Or squeezing the tube.
So that is what the kids call it nowadays
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Kansas State trying to screw Marquette
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Kansas State trying to screw Marquette
I thought that only happens in scrimmages?
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Texas screwed the Big East
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Ty NC State. What was David Thompson's vert?
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Appears St. Louis bid for the NCAA Tournament will come up short. Save travels home to the millions of Billiken fans that showed up
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Big half for Michigan.
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Appears St. Louis bid for the NCAA Tournament will come up short. Save travels home to the millions of Billiken fans that showed up
Yadi is in mourning.
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2-6 since Feb. 13 ... 5-9 since Jan. 23 ... 7-11 since their 13-1 start against mostly garbage competition.
Went 6-14 after a 9-3 start in 2022-23, too.
Also had a 2-11 stretch in Moser's first season at Oklahoma.
We got the right guy.
Maybe their AA PG got injured??
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Santa Maria y Aloysius de Gonzaga se están transfiriendo a al Grande Este
Lol this was not too good
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Lol this was not too good
醉
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What should we know about the Montana vs Montana St. rivalry?
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Yadi is in mourning.
Can confirm he wasn't in the game, he normally goes to half court to bit$h at refs, that is what he does while attending his pro team here.
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What should we know about the Montana vs Montana St. rivalry?
They're two insignificant schools in an insignificant state that play mediocre basketball and always will.
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What should we know about the Montana vs Montana St. rivalry?
Their annual football game is called "The Brawl of the Wild" and the winner gets the Great Divide Trophy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana%E2%80%93Montana_State_football_rivalry
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They're two insignificant schools in an insignificant state that play mediocre basketball and always will.
Montana is beautiful.
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Montana is beautiful.
Except for the murder, rape and other assorted crimes. I watch Yellowstone, pal. No way I ever go to Montana until they elect officials serious about getting tough on crime
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Except for the murder, rape and other assorted crimes. I watch Yellowstone, pal. No way I ever go to Montana until they elect officials serious about getting tough on crime
This is art.
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Montana is beautiful.
Jud Heathcote coached Montana to the national handball championship.
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In sort of paraphrasing his comment here, have the players be employees and sign them to 2,3 or4 year contracts (with a non compete clause) with an out if entering the NBA draft. Div 1 would obviously be different and much smaller. Writing is on the wall, especially given court activity?
It's as idiotic as the first time he said it, unless you want to destroy the vast majority of the sport. We'd probably lose 40-60% of the programs in the sport. I know there are some that say good riddance, but the more you professionalize it, the more you lose the pageantry. NCAA basketball isn't great because it's the best product, it's great because of the environments and the energy. Cutting out half the sport will send us to the erosion of those environments. Like the NCAA, these are stupid, short-sighted comments.
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It's as idiotic as the first time he said it, unless you want to destroy the vast majority of the sport. We'd probably lose 40-60% of the programs in the sport. I know there are some that say good riddance, but the more you professionalize it, the more you lose the pageantry. NCAA basketball isn't great because it's the best product, it's great because of the environments and the energy. Cutting out half the sport will send us to the erosion of those environments. Like the NCAA, these are stupid, short-sighted comments.
At the event last night it was commented that there is a huge difference between "student-athlete" and "employee". If they becomes "employees", they are no longer "students" then why is the university involved? It immensely changes everything and is a completely different thing.
Now back to my day job.
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Worth keeping an eye on, Kent State up 7 on 1-seed Toledo with 8 and change left in the MAC quarters.
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It's as idiotic as the first time he said it, unless you want to destroy the vast majority of the sport. We'd probably lose 40-60% of the programs in the sport. I know there are some that say good riddance, but the more you professionalize it, the more you lose the pageantry. NCAA basketball isn't great because it's the best product, it's great because of the environments and the energy. Cutting out half the sport will send us to the erosion of those environments. Like the NCAA, these are stupid, short-sighted comments.
Yes, because the one thing professional sports doesn't have is pageantry. ::)
If there is one thing that the NIL era has taught us is should be that people don't care if student athletes aren't amateurs. Student athletes can be employees and receive their scholarship plus a stipend. They can be part of a union where a CBA outlines issues like compensation, transfer policy, that's a negotiation between two parties.
And you're right. I don't care one bit if this move means the entire Northeast Conference goes away.
At the event last night it was commented that there is a huge difference between "student-athlete" and "employee". If they becomes "employees", they are no longer "students" then why is the university involved? It immensely changes everything and is a completely different thing.
Marquette employs a bunch of students. Marquette employs a bunch of students that receive significant scholarships. (teaching assistants, research assistants) I have no idea why this would be fundamentally different.
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Their annual football game is called "The Brawl of the Wild" and the winner gets the Great Divide Trophy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana%E2%80%93Montana_State_football_rivalry
Really? I thought that trophy went to whoever wins in November.
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My understanding is that college football games at Montana or Montana State are just fantastic.
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Kent State takes out Toledo in the MAC. Tod Kowalczyk absolutely cannot get a team to the dance. Just wild.
St. Joe’s and Richmond coming down to the wire. A Richmond loss knocks them out of the dance
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Texas Tech 37, BYU 15!!!
That’s a projected 6 seed pounding on a projected 5 seed.
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If there is one thing that the NIL era has taught us is should be that people don't care if student athletes aren't amateurs. Student athletes can be employees and receive their scholarship plus a stipend. They can be part of a union where a CBA outlines issues like compensation, transfer policy, that's a negotiation between two parties.
Yep. The single most celebrated college basketball player in the country is Caitlin Clark. She sells out every arena she plays in.
She also is one of the highest-compensated athletes in all of college sports. She makes so much $$$ through NIL that one could even call her a professional, not an amateur.
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Richmond loses in the A-10 quarters. No dance for them. Barring a bid thief, the A-10 is a one bid league again.
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Texas Tech 37, BYU 15!!!
That’s a projected 6 seed pounding on a projected 5 seed.
BYU not helping the MU cause.
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BYU not helping the MU cause.
Lots of games hurting the Marquette cause this week.
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Lots of games hurting the Marquette cause this week.
I'm so scared. Good thing that we aren't playing De Paul tonight or I would be completely non-functional.
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I'm so scared. Good thing that we aren't playing De Paul tonight or I would be completely non-functional.
If we lost to DePaul, we’d have ended up a 17-seed
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If we lost to DePaul, we’d have ended up a 17-seed
I never thought to clear my calendar for Tuesday and Wednesday should we play in Dayton.
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I never thought to clear my calendar for Tuesday and Wednesday should we play in Dayton.
NIT starts 3/19
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Yep. The single most celebrated college basketball player in the country is Caitlin Clark. She sells out every arena she plays in.
She also is one of the highest-compensated athletes in all of college sports. She makes so much $$$ through NIL that one could even call her a professional, not an amateur.
Totally straying off topic here (me) but Caitlin is expected to be signed for a base salary of $76,000 with a potential bonus of $5150 if she's the rookie of the year.
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Except for the murder, rape and other assorted crimes. I watch Yellowstone, pal. No way I ever go to Montana until they elect officials serious about getting tough on crime
Montana is going to Helena handbasket.
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Totally straying off topic here (me) but Caitlin is expected to be signed for a base salary of $76,000 with a potential bonus of $5150 if she's the rookie of the year.
Too bad she has zero eligibility left - she'd make more $ at Iowa.
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Gophers remain useless
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NIT starts 3/19
Whatever happened to that Big East, Big 10, Big XII non-NCAA participant 16 team tourney in Vegas?
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Too bad she has zero eligibility left - she'd make more $ at Iowa.
I think she could come back for another year if she wanted. I think she will do just fine with endorsements in the WNBA.
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Too bad she has zero eligibility left - she'd make more $ at Iowa.
Or she could ink those same deals but instead of calling them NIL deals, we just call them sponsorships and product endorsements.
She isn't precluded from making more than her WNBA salary anymore than Lebron James is precluded from making only his NBA contract money.
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Yes, she definitely could have returned for another year. I doubt she could have made more by staying at Iowa.
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I think she could come back for another year if she wanted. I think she will do just fine with endorsements in the WNBA.
State Farm, Nike and Gatorade will be paying her "salary"
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State Farm, Nike and Gatorade will be paying her "salary"
I read somewhere that almost all of her NIL sponsors are going to continue with her after she leaves Iowa. Believe the annual figure was 900K a year.
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Montana is going to Helena handbasket.
Bravo.
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Montana is going to Helena handbasket.
That's a Butte!
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That's a Butte!
Dammit.
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Big game for Marquette’s cause tips-off in a few minutes. Need Wisconsin to introduce Maryland to darkness
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Dammit.
Did my pun Kalispell on you?
(Yeah...that's a stretch.)
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Did my pun Kalispell on you?
(Yeah...that's a stretch.)
I have to Hannah it to you. That was a pretty good Joe-k.
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I have to Hannah it to you. That was a pretty good Joe-k.
I'm always ready, billings and able when it comes to a good pun.
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Carolina looking strong in ACC Tournament
I am thinking The Heels gonna win The Big Dance this season. Seeing their swag everywhere , At The Beach, Costco, Trader Joes and Airports
Bacot and Davis are the kind of players that can lead a team to a Natty
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Sparty guards had one of their best games of the year today. Has the switch been flipped?
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Carolina looking strong in ACC Tournament
I am thinking The Heels gonna win The Big Dance this season. Seeing their swag everywhere , At The Beach, Costco, Trader Joes and Airports
Bacot and Davis are the kind of players that can lead a team to a Natty
Agree
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You know, you two don't Havre do this.
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Carolina looking strong in ACC Tournament
I am thinking The Heels gonna win The Big Dance this season. Seeing their swag everywhere , At The Beach, Costco, Trader Joes and Airports
Bacot and Davis are the kind of players that can lead a team to a Natty
I am with you Hermie. Not saying they will win it all, but have a good chance and I like teams that are on a roll going into the NCAAT. They win ACC and if Tenn/Hou/Purdue happen to falter, UNC gets a #1 seed. Believe they have won 8 in a row now.
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Carolina looking strong in ACC Tournament
I am thinking The Heels gonna win The Big Dance this season. Seeing their swag everywhere , At The Beach, Costco, Trader Joes and Airports
Bacot and Davis are the kind of players that can lead a team to a Natty
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read today
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Badgers look like a Final 4 team. Helps the Marquette cause. Think they coast to a Big Ten title and get a 3-seed. Gard just gets it done
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Badgers look like a Final 4 team. Helps the Marquette cause. Think they coast to a Big Ten title and get a 3-seed. Gard just gets it done
That’s a team nobody wants to face.
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That’s a team nobody wants to face.
Not at all. Won’t be surprised to see 4 Big Ten teams in the Final 4. Them, Purdue, Sparty and Illinois
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Sparty guards had one of their best games of the year today. Has the switch been flipped?
I’m scared.
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I’m scared.
Don’t be. The coach is terrible
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Sparty guards had one of their best games of the year today. Has the switch been flipped?
Hopefully they can move up to an 8 or 9 seed.
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If a team's swag is at Costco, it's pretty much a lock for the national title.
That's why I just placed a huge bet on UNC-Charlotte.
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Wisconsin up 40 lol
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Houston pitching a shut out 8 minutes in
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Wisconsin up 40 lol
Not sure Willard will be long lasting there.
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Not sure Willard will be long lasting there.
I never got that hire from Maryland’s standpoint. Willard did fine at Seton Hall. It was a bad program when he got there and did a lot of good but it sure felt like he had a ceiling. Competitive in the Big East with maybe a few teams that could make a nice March run.
Though, their biggest problem is, they’re miscast in the Big 18. They have no identity. Virginia usurped them as the ACC Tobacco Road foil
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The play before half of the UNLV-SDSU was stupid dumb
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UCLA screwing the Big East
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SDSU missed 3 of 4 FTs in the last :25 and UNLV forces overtime at the buzzer
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SDSU beats UNLV in overtime. Jaedon Lee with 34 points and 16 boards for the Aztecs
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Wonder if Jerry Falwell, Jr. watched Liberty lose to UTEP?
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He had the pool boy watch for him.
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He had the pool boy watch for him.
I thought he was the one watching the pool boy…with his wife
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Variety is the spice of life.
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Duke game bizarre, NC ST breaks press guy goes up to dunk ball,misses and hangs on rim for technical! NC ST up 4 with 30 seconds left
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Cmon NC State!!!
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Kansas State screwing the Big East
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Duke goes down!!
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Ty Wolfpack. :)
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Wonder if Jerry Falwell, Jr. watched Liberty lose to UTEP?
I watched it with him.
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How is Colorado a bubble team with three projected draft picks?
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Yes, because the one thing professional sports doesn't have is pageantry. ::)
If there is one thing that the NIL era has taught us is should be that people don't care if student athletes aren't amateurs. Student athletes can be employees and receive their scholarship plus a stipend. They can be part of a union where a CBA outlines issues like compensation, transfer policy, that's a negotiation between two parties.
And you're right. I don't care one bit if this move means the entire Northeast Conference goes away.
Marquette employs a bunch of students. Marquette employs a bunch of students that receive significant scholarships. (teaching assistants, research assistants) I have no idea why this would be fundamentally different.
Totally ignores the downstream effects. Title IX will make this a crap show. Sports would be slashed. This would be catastrophic for Olympic sports, not because of the professionalism but because our college sports are the pipeline for the USOC.
There are roughly 200,000 scholarship athletes in the country. That would probably be cut by 75%, conservatively.
If you're in the "I only care about my interests" camp, that's you're prerogative. I think it's an pretty boy way to go about life, the people that vote against school referendums as soon as it doesn't impact them, but it sounds like a terrible idea to me.
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Totally ignores the downstream effects. Title IX will make this a crap show. Sports would be slashed. This would be catastrophic for Olympic sports, not because of the professionalism but because our college sports are the pipeline for the USOC.
There are roughly 200,000 scholarship athletes in the country. That would probably be cut by 75%, conservatively.
If you're in the "I only care about my interests" camp, that's you're prerogative. I think it's an pretty boy way to go about life, the people that vote against school referendums as soon as it doesn't impact them, but it sounds like a terrible idea to me.
Why would this be “catastrophic” for Olympic sports? Don’t fall for the narrative that, with all of the money that is being earned by these schools, that athlete employment would be tipping point. That’s nonsense.
Olympic sports are full of partial scholarships. And the reason many of them exist is as a student recruitment tool anyway. If you include the tuition, etc. that many of the student athletes actually DO pay, the financial equation is nowhere near what you are portraying.
It’s just chicken little nonsense.
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A10 is going to steal a bid
Tho most mock brackets have Richmond as the auto bid due to winning league. So as far as those go no change
But Richmond and Dayton both fall. So someone random gonna make it
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A10 is going to steal a bid
Tho most mock brackets have Richmond as the auto bid due to winning league. So as far as those go no change
But Richmond and Dayton both fall. So someone random gonna make it
Think the top-3 seeds are kaput
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Bearcats 26 Bears 24 at half
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BC buzzer-beater sends their game against Virginia into overtime
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Lampkin on Colorado is a load.
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Montana is beautiful.
No it isn't, tough country, cartel like but w/o immigrants. SAD
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Lampkin on Colorado is a load.
He's like a more agile Big Sheesh.
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He's like a more agile Big Sheesh.
He's listed at 265. I'd say more like 285. Maybe he'll match up with Oduro in a play-in game and floor the guy. :)
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I wish Dayton would get snubbed.
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I wish Dayton would get snubbed.
Loyola should win the A-10 tournament.
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Loyola should win the A-10 tournament.
Well they won't.
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Loyola should win the A-10 tournament.
That would be impressive and an incredible story
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That would be impressive and an incredible story
Or very tragic.
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That would be impressive and an incredible story
Oh....whoops. They apparently choked.
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Games to help or hurt the Marquette cause today:
Wisconsin vs. Northwestern - We’ll all be cheering on Bucky to help the Marquette cause and get another W under their belt
Michigan State vs. Purdue - A Purdue win helps the Marquette cause
Ohio State vs. Illinois - An Illinois win helps the Marquette cause
Oregon vs. Arizona - An Oregon win helps the Marquette cause
Baylor vs. Iowa State - A Baylor or Iowa State win hurts the Marquette cause
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I don't know how anyone is ever supposed to beat Purdue when they get every call known to man.
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8 fouls 8 mins into the game. MSU wont have a team left by halftime.
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8 fouls 8 mins into the game. MSU wont have a team left by halftime.
Open up the jails
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He's like a more agile Big Sheesh.
Colorado could be a real interesting second round matchup (disclaimer: I teach there) if they end up on the 10/11 line and make it out of the first round. They've got a lot of interesting pieces and underperformed throughout the year, but have been playing well down the stretch.
Lampkin is a lot like Davante--big guy that plays below the rim but is surprisingly nimble and has soft hands/touch. KJ Simpson is a dangerous scoring PG. Tristan di Silva is a great two-way player. Cody Williams is a likely freshman lottery pick. Lots of length.
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8 fouls 8 mins into the game. MSU wont have a team left by halftime.
Evened up a bit-13 fouls to 10. No fouls on Edey.
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There's a guy on Purdue that somehow flops more than Brad Davidson
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Tough to tell what happened initially
But Braden Smith done for Purdue grabbing the knee in a lot of pain
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Tough to tell what happened initially
But Braden Smith done for Purdue grabbing the knee in a lot of pain
Damn that’s horrible.
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Damn that’s horrible.
Definitely extended weird.
They did just show him in the tunnel area walking on it at least, even if thats far from a guarantee of anything.
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Tough to tell what happened initially
But Braden Smith done for Purdue grabbing the knee in a lot of pain
Damn. I'm also a Purdue fan. I really hope they can have a good run in the tournament this year...until they play Marquette.
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Baylor vs. Iowa State - A Baylor or Iowa State win hurts the Marquette cause
Tie, please tie!
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Damn. I'm also a Purdue fan. I really hope they can have a good run in the tournament this year...until they play Marquette.
Yeah the sideline reporter was back there as he tried walking it off and as he said
Good news is he was able to walk on his own for a bit
Bad news is it wasnt effective and resulted in going back to locker room anyways.
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Do the refs even look at Edey other than to call a foul on the opposing team. They guy travels every time he catches the ball.
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This game is a classic Purdue game. Fouls on every possession.
Absolutely killing the pace.
They call so many fouls when Edey gets the ball that they also feel obligated to call a ton on the other end too.
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Smith back. Was jogging a bit.
They would be insane to put him back in though
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This game is a classic Purdue game. Fouls on every possession.
Absolutely killing the pace.
They call so many fouls when Edey gets the ball that they also feel obligated to call a ton on the other end too.
How would Purdue fair in the Big East? I honestly think they'd have a few more Ls.
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Most "bracketologists" have Michigan State making the tournament, but when I look at their resume, I don't see it:
If they lose today, they would be 3-9 in quad 1 games.
If they lose today, they would have 14 losses.
They would be 2-9 against the upper echelon of the Big 10.
They were 10-10 in conference play, beating Michigan twice, Rutgers, Minnesota, Penn St, twice, and Maryland twice (plus Illinois and Northwestern).
Baylor was their only quad 1 non-conference win.
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Smith back. Was jogging a bit.
They would be insane to put him back in though
Apparently they are insane.
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Smith back. Was jogging a bit.
They would be insane to put him back in though
Guess Painter is insane, hes in the game ha
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Tennessee overslept apparently.
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Most "bracketologists" have Michigan State making the tournament, but when I look at their resume, I don't see it:
If they lose today, they would be 3-9 in quad 1 games.
If they lose today, they would have 14 loses.
They would be 2-9 against the upper echelon of the Big 10.
They were 10-10 in conference play, beating Michigan twice, Rutgers, Minnesota, Penn St, twice, and Maryland twice (plus Illinois and Northwestern).
Baylor was their only quad 1 non-conference win.
Good metrics, no losses outside Q1/2, a not atrocious SOS. Compare that to some of the bubble teams and it's clear they should slide into that 7-10 range.
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Sissoko for MSU has the hand eye coordination of Ray Charles but hes an absolute menace in the paint right now creating second chances for MSU whether he gets the board or his chaos lets another player get it.
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Good metrics, no losses outside Q1/2, a not atrocious SOS. Compare that to some of the bubble teams and it's clear they should slide into that 7-10 range.
They'll slide into 10 or 11, not anywhere near a 7
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Sparty gonna kick themselves on this one.
Missing way too many easy open looks in the paint
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They'll slide into 10 or 11, not anywhere near a 7
Probably a 10 and still in position to be a possible second round opponent for a 2. I want them to get a 9.
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If Michigan state wins this game they will be a 9 seed.
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If Michigan state wins this game they will be a 9 seed.
YOU'RE CRAZY!!!! THEY WILL BE AN 8 SEED WHICH IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!
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YOU'RE CRAZY!!!! THEY WILL BE AN 8 SEED WHICH IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!
Now they should be in the play in game.
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Purdue didn’t screw Marquette. Will Wisconsin?
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I know Purdue is very good. I still really, really, really want to be the 2 seed in the region in which Purdue is the 1.
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Tennessee overslept apparently.
Getting spanked, wow
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I know Purdue is very good. I still really, really, really want to be the 2 seed in the region in which Purdue is the 1.
I don't know about that. Every number 1 seed that lost to a 16 has won the tournament the next year.
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Think the Badgers win this by 30.
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Think the Badgers win this by 30.
Making a late push for the last protected Indy seed?
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Badgers used all there 3s yesterday.
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Making a late push for the last protected Indy seed?
Gard just gets it done in March. They win this comfortably.
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That Wahl tumble was dirty AF
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That Wahl tumble was dirty AF
Gotta take out their best player at any cost.
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Gotta take out their best player at any cost.
That’s literally what it looks like he intended to do
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Marquette has the 5TH Most Quad 1 Wins in the Country by themselves behind Houston UConn Purdue and Baylor
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Brilliant half of ball from the Badgers. Gard has them peaking at the right time.
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That’s literally what it looks like he intended to do
He tried to take Boo out??? What a jkass.
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He tried to take Boo out??? What a jkass.
It was good, clean basketball
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It was good, clean basketball
The Wisconsin way
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The Wisconsin way
They play the right way. They play hard and with joy
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Tyler Whale messed up his knee. Crying on the bench
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I will never be enthused about an injury.
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They play the right way. They play hard and with joy
Word around State street is Wemby couldn't get in so he went pro instead.
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Word around State street is Wemby couldn't get in so he went pro instead.
If I were a Badgers fan, I wouldn’t want him to hurt the culture. Gard just gets it done. They might steal that 2-seed from us
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The Badgers are suddenly 3 point sharpshooters. 24 for 42 in their two conference tournament games.
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The Badgers are suddenly 3 point sharpshooters. 24 for 42 in their two conference tournament games.
Gard always has them peaking in March
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If I were a Badgers fan, I wouldn’t want him to hurt the culture. Gard just gets it done. They might steal that 2-seed from us
Extend Gard!
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Extend Gard!
Hope he takes the Louisville job
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Buckeyes continuing to give the finger to Holtmann.
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Hope he takes the Louisville job
it's Scott drew's for the taking
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Buckeyes continuing to give the finger to Holtmann.
And tOSU is paying his DePaul salary...it all evens out in the end.
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A&M beat Kentucky.
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A&M beat Kentucky.
Well, there’s goes that nonsense of them possibly taking the Indianapolis location from us.
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Nice win for the 🦚 🦚 🦚 🦚.
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Bid thievery afoot in the PAC-12
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Oregon beats Zona
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Continue to think Carolina is going to go a long way in the tournament
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Do we want Baylor or Iowa St.?
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Do we want Baylor or Iowa St.?
Nope.
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Do we want Baylor or Iowa St.?
Does it matter at this point? At all? Aren’t we pretty securely ahead of both teams?
Root for whoever you want to root for.
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Does it matter at this point? At all? Aren’t we pretty securely ahead of both teams?
Root for whoever you want to root for.
I suppose. Good day for MU seed wise.
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North Carolina is probably getting the 1 seed out west now with Zona losing to Oregon. Zona will be the 2 out west.
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Does it matter at this point? At all? Aren’t we pretty securely ahead of both teams?
Root for whoever you want to root for.
I have to admit that after all the reading I did about this the last couple days, I'd feel more comfortable if Baylor wins that game. But I do like to think you're right about us having clinched the 2 and Indy.
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I have to admit that after all the reading I did about this the last couple days, I'd feel more comfortable if Baylor wins that game. But I do like to think you're right about us having clinched the 2 and Indy.
iowa St.has impressed me. T.J could be COY.
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Baylor might be the 3 seed in MU’s region.
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Who saw Virginia’s colossal choke in the last minute of regulation against NC State?
Missed FTs, fouling a 3 point shooter, and declining to foul after missing a FT with a 3 point lead with 5 seconds left opened the door for NC State to send the game to OT with a desperation banked in 3. Virginia even had fouls to give.
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Baylor might be the 3 seed in MU’s region.
That's fine. Unless Duke is a possibility.
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Baylor might be the 3 seed in MU’s region.
I'm counting on having to play real good teams for each of our last 5 wins in the NCAA Tournament.
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Who saw Virginia’s colossal choke in the last minute of regulation against NC State?
Missed FTs, fouling a 3 point shooter, and declining to foul after missing a FT with a 3 point lead with 5 seconds left opened the door for NC State to send the game to OT with a desperation banked in 3. Virginia even had fouls to give.
Very poor coaching from Bennett not fouling after the last missed FT.
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Games that will help determine Marquette’s seeding and pod assignment:
Wisconsin vs. Purdue: A win by either team will not help Marquette’s cause
Nebraska vs. Illinois: Need Illinois to win
Marquette vs. UConn: A Marquette loss will hurt the Marquette cause
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Ivy League stunner:
Brown up 20 with 15 minutes left against Princeton. Princeton is 150 spots better in KenPom. Colossal upset.
Lucky for them, the school will have to close down soon anyway
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Princeton has cut it to 9 with 4 and a half left.
Vermont up 5 on Lowell with 2:30 left.
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Games that will help determine Marquette’s seeding and pod assignment:
Wisconsin vs. Purdue: A win by either team will not help Marquette’s cause
Marquette vs. UConn: A Marquette loss will hurt the Marquette cause
Gotta like our odds to come out ahead
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Expect the Badgers to dominate this game against Purdue. Gard gets it done in March and they are peaking at the right time. Think Crowl goes 30-15 and Klesmit drops 25
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Congrats to the Catamounts of Vermont. 3 straight dances. Good record, not as good as previous iterations but still a great season
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And Brown knocks off Princeton. Stunner in the soon to defunct Ivy League
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Expect the Badgers to dominate this game against Purdue. Gard gets it done in March and they are peaking at the right time. Think Crowl goes 30-15 and Klesmit drops 25
Edey getting 2 fouls in 2 mins helps them.
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Zach Edey with 2 fouls in the first 5 minutes is something I never thought I would see.
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Zach Edey with 2 fouls in the first 5 minutes is something I never thought I would see.
One was a double technical on him and Crowl after Crowl gave him two elbows after the play.
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One was a double technical on him and Crowl after Crowl gave him two elbows after the play.
Thanks, not watching just saw the box score.
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One was a double technical on him and Crowl after Crowl gave him two elbows after the play.
Good strategy on the Badgers part. Get both guys kicked out of the game and the Badgers win.
With Edey out the Badgers have taken control.
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Badgers are really evenly matched once you take out the best player in the sport
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Heels versus Wolfpak that is going to be a fun ACC final.
Continue to think Carolina is very strong and goes a long way in The Tournament
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Good strategy on the Badgers part. Get both guys kicked out of the game and the Badgers win.
With Edey out the Badgers have taken control.
Isn't it tied Blue?
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Good strategy on the Badgers part. Get both guys kicked out of the game and the Badgers win.
With Edey out the Badgers have taken control.
If control means a run culminating in a 2 possession game then sure, they took control.
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Heels versus Wolfpak that is going to be a fun ACC final.
Continue to think Carolina is very strong and goes a long way in The Tournament
Hard to fairly evaluate ACC teams. Kind of like AAC teams of the recent past.
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Terrible call. Hepburn hooked Smith.
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Vermont is in, warming up the hubris for possible matchup.
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Vermont is in, warming up the hubris for possible matchup.
Any concerns about Stetson? They have a guard that dropped 43 in the A-Sun Final. McNeese St could be dangerous as a 13 seed.
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Any concerns about Stetson? They have a guard that dropped 43 in the A-Sun Final. McNeese St could be dangerous as a 13 seed.
PointWarrior thinks he above COLE but wet himself in the game thread last Saturday
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Complaining about a crapty first half performance against a shiit team (expecting better) is not exactly the definition of COLE.
But keep up the shtick.
PointWarrior thinks he above COLE but wet himself in the game thread last Saturday
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Any concerns about Stetson? They have a guard that dropped 43 in the A-Sun Final. McNeese St could be dangerous as a 13 seed.
Stevie would blank him. Kidding but that an impressive, impressive display.
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Purdue hunts long 2's. I'd love to be in their region.
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I really hope once the NCAA tournament starts that Edey will have refs that are deepthroating him constantly. They guy throws elbows constantly and is never called for jack. I hope to hell MU is in there region.
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I really hope once the NCAA tournament starts that Edey will have refs that are deepthroating him constantly. They guy throws elbows constantly and is never called for jack. I hope to hell MU is in there region.
Agreed.
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Purdue hunts long 2's. I'd love to be in their region.
Smith and Loyer have not been good in this game. I still don't trust them in the tournament.
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Chucky hit Edey in the arm and then the head
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Smith and Loyer have not been good in this game. I still don't trust them in the tournament.
They struggle with pressure too.
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Chucky hit Edey in the arm and then the head
The Hack-a-Zach keeps working with the refs
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Bucky got the longest 5 seconds to inbound that ball
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Purdue outsmarted itself on that last play of regulation having Edey guard the in bound pass and not back in the lane.
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The Hack-a-Zach keeps working with the refs
Actually, the call was Wisconsin ball since Edey touched it last...after being fouled twice by Hepburn. ::)
Then Purdon't gives up an uncontested layup at the buzzer.
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So now we are going to fill up other topics on whining about the refs too.
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WTH. Why play Edey to close there if he's not protecting the paint?
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Purdue outsmarted itself on that last play of regulation having Edey guard the in bound pass and not back in the lane.
I was just going to say that. If they wanted to do that don’t they have some otherwise useless tall guy on the bench and leave Edey to protect the rim.
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Wow, whatever Purdue did on that last play cannot be called defense.
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Win or lose I just don’t think Purdue is even close to as good as UConn.
They have big men who can at least contain Edey and their supporting cast is MUCH better.
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Now the Badgers can try to win with the Hack a Shaq strategy.
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Badgers getting screwed here.
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Rough foul call. Edey making FTs .
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Edey gets so many breaks it’s ridiculous.
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I have no problem with Wisky getting screwed but Edey’s whistle is so preposterous. The largest man in CBB gets officiated with kid gloves
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Badgers getting screwed here.
Good!
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Purdue is gagging this game away
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Purdue is gagging this game away
Gag complete - please put us in their region.
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Gag complete - please put us in their region.
PLEASE
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Gard gets it done in March
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Purdue's other players sucked immensely.
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I haven’t watched a lot of Purdue. Are they always that slow on defense?
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How does Purdue blow that one with Bucky having 3 guys foul out. Yikes
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Purdue was not good today.
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Gard gets it done in March
Extend him now!
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Maybe thinking that Wisconsin was going to win the Big 10 when they had a 2 game lead wasn’t so preposterous.
They are trying to repeat the UConn formula. Take a few weeks off in the middle of the season and finish strong.
Hopefully this will get them to a 5 seed.
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Gard gets it done in March
unbeaten by Shaka
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Maybe thinking that Wisconsin was going to win the Big 10 when they had a 2 game lead wasn’t so preposterous.
They are trying to repeat the UConn formula. Take a few weeks off in the middle of the season and finish strong.
Hopefully this will get them to a 5 seed.
Except UConn was a top-10 offense and defense all year or most of the year. Wisconsin has not been that this year
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Maybe thinking that Wisconsin was going to win the Big 10 when they had a 2 game lead wasn’t so preposterous.
They are trying to repeat the UConn formula. Take a few weeks off in the middle of the season and finish strong.
Hopefully this will get them to a 5 seed.
They are pretty good. Would have loved to see them against Creighton in a 3/6 though. That would be a fun matchup.
I don't think Purdue makes it to the FF.
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Maybe thinking that Wisconsin was going to win the Big 10 when they had a 2 game lead wasn’t so preposterous.
They are trying to repeat the UConn formula. Take a few weeks off in the middle of the season and finish strong.
Hopefully this will get them to a 5 seed.
And maybe you should just admit you were wrong Blue, like you were about Villanova. Beating a crappy Maryland team and a depleted Northwestern team doesn't mean anything. They deserve the win today but Purdue and Painter helped a great deal.
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They are pretty good. Would have loved to see them against Creighton in a 3/6 though. That would be a fun matchup.
I don't think Purdue makes it to the FF.
Wisconsin is absolutely dangerous if they hit threes. That said I fully expect Purdue not to make the F4.
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And maybe you should just admit you were wrong Blue, like you were about Villanova. Beating a crappy Maryland team and a depleted Northwestern team doesn't mean anything. They deserve the win today but Purdue and Painter helped a great deal.
Purdue will be the first 1 seed to go out next week. I like Painter, but we’ll see how good of a coach he is next year without Edey.
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Edey refusing to cover the rim all game showing why Purdue is so weak and why Edey isn’t a first round draft choice. Would love for Warriors to be in the same regional.
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Wisconsin is absolutely dangerous if they hit threes. That said I fully expect Purdue not to make the F4.
Storr is really really good. He's a piece to build around there
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Storr is really really good. He's a piece to build around there
Unless they break the bank he won't be there next year.
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Wisconsin is absolutely dangerous if they hit threes. That said I fully expect Purdue not to make the F4.
Except the didn't make 3s tonight.
Purdue will not make the FF.
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And maybe you should just admit you were wrong Blue, like you were about Villanova. Beating a crappy Maryland team and a depleted Northwestern team doesn't mean anything. They deserve the win today but Purdue and Painter helped a great deal.
I guess I was wrong to think that a team that thumped Marquette and then won at MSU had a good chance to win the Big 10 when they had a 2 game lead.
I know you’ve harped on it for 2 months but I have no idea what I said about Villanova that was wrong.
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Unless they break the bank he won't be there next year.
How often do Badger players leave early? They usually find ways to play there until they’re 25.
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How often do Badger players leave early? They usually find ways to play there until they’re 25.
A lot of chatter about him hitting the portal to get more NIL cash.
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I guess I was wrong to think that a team that thumped Marquette and then won at MSU had a good chance to win the Big 10 when they had a 2 game lead.
I know you’ve harped on it for 2 months but I have no idea what I said about Villanova that was wrong.
It was me who said the stuff about Nova, he took it personally I pointed out that despite Neptunes coaching the team still had a high ceiling given they had wins over:
UNC
Maryland
Texas Tech
Memphis
UCLA
Creighton
Top 50 NET
He stated that Nova had no business being in a game with us (they managed it 2/3 times) and that their players having experience didn't matter. I then ignored that.
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A lot of chatter about him hitting the portal to get more NIL cash.
No there isn't? He already transferred once.
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No there isn't? He already transferred once.
No clue on his plans, but any transfer can play next year regardless if they already transferred previously. Think we’ve seen the end of sitting out a year.
https://247sports.com/article/ncaa-memo-clears-way-for-multi-time-transfers-to-play-in-2024-223780692/
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No there isn't? He already transferred once.
He’ll be at Illinois
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Badgers might not lose again in 2024.
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Badgers might not lose again in 2024.
They also might lose tomorrow and/or round 1 of the NCAAs. That is the beauty of CBB.
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They also might lose tomorrow and/or round 1 of the NCAAs. That is the beauty of CBB.
They have the potential to make a run but you can say that about probably 20 teams.
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It was me who said the stuff about Nova, he took it personally I pointed out that despite Neptunes coaching the team still had a high ceiling given they had wins over:
UNC
Maryland
Texas Tech
Memphis
UCLA
Creighton
Top 50 NET
He stated that Nova had no business being in a game with us (they managed it 2/3 times) and that their players having experience didn't matter. I then ignored that.
But Galway, they also had brutal losses. It was pretty apparent to me that they were wildly inconsistent and not going to be much of a factor in the BEast.
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Of Wisconsin wins tomorrow, they’ll get the last 1-seed according to BracketLand
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USF about to go down to UAB in the AAC semifinals.
Think AAC is 1-bid should FAU win the tourney
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But Galway, they also had brutal losses. It waa pretty apparent to me that they were wildly inconsistent and not going to be much of a factor in the BEast.
That's true they did which is irrelevant to a ceiling, saying a team has a high ceiling with proven potential doesn't invalidate a low low floor. by your logic in 2016 we shouldn't have beaten #6 Providence because we lost to Belmont and DePaul. Some teams are scary when things are clicking and should be respected in case that happens whereas some teams are DePaul & Georgetown.
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Duquesne started A-10 season 0-5. Now in the A-10 Finals against VCU. Heckuva turnaround
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That's true they did which is irrelevant to a ceiling, saying a team has a high ceiling with proven potential doesn't invalidate a low low floor. by your logic in 2016 we shouldn't have beaten #6 Providence because we lost to Belmont and DePaul. Some teams are scary when things are clicking and should be respected in case that happens whereas some teams are DePaul & Georgetown.
I don't think being inconsistent is irrelevant to a ceiling.
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You gotta love Tominaga. I wonder if he makes an NBA roster?
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He’ll be at Illinois
He and Blackwell
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I don't think being inconsistent is irrelevant to a ceiling.
And that's why I stopped responding to the argument. Bottom line is it was not Wisblue that you were in disagreement with regarding nova.
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Edey refusing to cover the rim all game showing why Purdue is so weak and why Edey isn’t a first round draft choice. Would love for Warriors to be in the same regional.
Serious question from a guy who hasn't seen all that much of Purdue and who didn't see this loss to the Weasels:
Did Edey "refuse" or was that Painter's defensive system/instructions? Seems odd that if Painter wanted Edey down low on D that Edey would just ignore his coach, but maybe that's the norm.
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Serious question from a guy who hasn't seen all that much of Purdue and who didn't see this loss to the Weasels:
Did Edey "refuse" or was that Painter's defensive system/instructions? Seems odd that if Painter wanted Edey down low on D that Edey would just ignore his coach, but maybe that's the norm.
They were concerned about the three so they put Edey on the inbounder. The thought was that preventing the three was paramount, but they also thought they didn’t have time to drive to the hole. And they almost didn’t.
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And that's why I stopped responding to the argument. Bottom line is it was not Wisblue that you were in disagreement with regarding nova.
Blue made a number of comments during the MU/Nova game at Fiserv that I profusely disagreed with.
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They were concerned about the three so they put Edey on the inbounder. The thought was that preventing the three was paramount, but they also thought they didn’t have time to drive to the hole. And they almost didn’t.
Thanks, that makes sense on that play. But madtown AL said Edey was "refusing to cover the rim all game."
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Thanks, that makes sense on that play. But madtown AL said Edey was "refusing to cover the rim all game."
Yeah I have no idea what that means.
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Temple up 2 with 10:30 left against FAU in AAC semifinals. FAU loss opens the door for a bid thief.
Iowa State up 14 on Houston
New Mexico up 2 on SDSU with 15 minutes left. We’re up as much as 14 early
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Going into the week, Purdue, Tennessee, Houston and UConn were the #1 seeds. The first 2 have already lost, Houston’s down by 20, and UConn is in a close one at halftime with a depleted Marquette team.
It’s gonna be another wide-open NCAAT. Nobody’s close to unbeatable. Marquette might as well win the damn thing!
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Going into the week, Purdue, Tennessee, Houston and UConn were the #1 seeds. The first 2 have already lost, Houston’s down by 20, and UConn is in a close one at halftime with a depleted Marquette team.
It’s gonna be another wide-open NCAAT. Nobody’s close to unbeatable. Marquette might as well win the damn thing!
Eh. I think 3 of those can win it and it wouldn’t be much a surprise
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Going into the week, Purdue, Tennessee, Houston and UConn were the #1 seeds. The first 2 have already lost, Houston’s down by 20, and UConn is in a close one at halftime with a depleted Marquette team.
It’s gonna be another wide-open NCAAT. Nobody’s close to unbeatable. Marquette might as well win the damn thing!
Iowa St. is really solid.
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Eh. I think 3 of those can win it and it wouldn’t be much a surprise
Totally. Nor would it surprise me is any of several other teams win it.
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Totally. Nor would it surprise me is any of several other teams win it.
I think I’ll be (includes Auburn, Zona, UNC, Quette)
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Totally. Nor would it surprise me is any of several other teams win it.
It's pretty wide open.
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Ive heard Illinois and Kentucky as the favorites for Storr next year
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Temple gonna take out FAU. American stealing a bid
Or not
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Wow, FAU Spit the Bit
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Wow, FAU Spit the Bit
Hopefully that knocks Providence out.
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🦚
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The conference tournaments are providing a showcase for how many teams there are that are capable of knocking off teams that will be getting high seeds in the NCAA. And that includes many teams that won’t even make the field, like some that MU has played in the last week.
Making it through the first weekend is not going to be easy for anyone. As a fan I’ll be taking it one game at a time and savoring any victory, including one in the first round if MU is fortunate enough to get it.
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Hopefully that knocks Providence out.
Yep. It won't affect my appreciation of the Big East to see that team of hacks get shut out.
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No way that NC State's DJ Burns is only 275. Taller than and wider than Gardner.
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MAC Championship is off the rails with 4.8 left. 8-seed Kent State took a 1-point lead with 6.7 left and they fouled as Akron was bringing the ball up the court
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MAC Championship is off the rails with 4.8 left. 8-seed Kent State took a 1-point lead with 6.7 left and they fouled as Akron was bringing the ball up the court
Wojo move
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Wojo move
Wasn’t even out of a timeout. Kid was inconsolable on the bench
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Wasn’t even out of a timeout. Kid was inconsolable on the bench
Is Zippy there?
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Wasn’t even out of a timeout. Kid was inconsolable on the bench
Feel for the kid. March is brutal.
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Wojo move
The difference was that it was the Kent State player (Justin Rollins), not the coach, who made the decision to foul. Rollins didn't know the situation. The Akron player he fouled made the FTs, Kent State couldn't score at the buzzer, and Rollins was clearly devastated. They showed him on the bench and he was practically in tears, and he kept saying, "What the bleep was I doing?" I feel for anybody who will be remembered as a goat like that.
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No way that NC State's DJ Burns is only 275. Taller than and wider than Gardner.
The listed weights of Burns and Lampkin are significantly lighter than the truth.
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The difference was that it was the Kent State player (Justin Rollins), not the coach, who made the decision to foul. Rollins didn't know the situation. The Akron player he fouled made the FTs, Kent State couldn't score at the buzzer, and Rollins was clearly devastated. They showed him on the bench and he was practically in tears, and he kept saying, "What the bleep was I doing?" I feel for anybody who will be remembered as a goat like that.
Damn. I feel for that kid.
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Where will UCI be seeded? 16 or 15?
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Where will UCI be seeded? 16 or 15?
UCI?
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UCI?
My bad they showed the women's.
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I think we'll likely see the 🦚 🦚 in the rd of 64.
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I think we'll likely see the 🦚 🦚 in the rd of 64.
I think South Dakota State is more likely
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I think South Dakota State is more likely
Oh....that's certainly possible.
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Hard not to cheer for D.J. Burns. He's exactly the type of player I'd like to see level Oduro. I'm going with 305?
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Oh....that's certainly possible.
Just a matter if we get seeded Midwest or South. Won’t be East or West. UConn has the 1 in the East and think Zona is 2 out west. Iowa State is a 2 in the Midwest or South. Tennessee will be the 2 in the East. If Marquette gets sent south, I’d guess they get Stetson?
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I think Stetson will be in Dayton.
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NC State on the verge of being the first team since 2011 UConn to win 5 games in 5 days.
And I think Burns Jr goes 325, minimum.
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Just a matter if we get seeded Midwest or South. Won’t be East or West. UConn has the 1 in the East and think Zona is 2 out west. Iowa State is a 2 in the Midwest or South. Tennessee will be the 2 in the East. If Marquette gets sent south, I’d guess they get Stetson?
The consensus seems to be a #16 for the Hatters.
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NC State on the verge of being the first team since 2011 UConn to win 5 games in 5 days.
And I think Burns Jr goes 325, minimum.
325???? I love the guy Tower. Very Davantesque but with a bit more athleticism.
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The consensus seems to be a #16 for the Hatters.
I think so, too. Some of the results in the lower leagues muddled things. I guess Western Kentucky?
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325???? I love the guy Tower. Very Davantesque but with a bit more athleticism.
How much did Davante weigh? This guy is thicker than senior year Gardner.
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some one needs to shut up the fan screaming behind the broadcasters in the NC NC sTate Game
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NC State thieving. Oregon possibly thieving. Big East is a 4-bid league.
And I’m sweating if I’m Virginia, TCU, OU, Mississippi State…
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She has a piercing voice
some one needs to shut up the fan screaming behind the broadcasters in the NC NC sTate Game
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How much did Davante weigh? This guy is thicker than senior year Gardner.
Davante clearly snapped his Sr. season Tower. Pizzas, Potato Chips, Cakes, Sleeves of Oreos, or what have you. You could see his lethargy. That said I think DG only weighed about 305. Burns may very well be 315-320.
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She has a piercing voice
i was just gonna ask if anyone else notices this or something is going on with my tv?
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Ah, the portal…
All five NC State starters are portal guys. Two of three bench players are portal also, to include Jayden Taylor from Butler.
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Yes. Every P6 program but 2 had players transfer in. Embrace the iconoclastic nature of MU.
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Congrats to Providence for making the NIT.
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NC State thieving. Oregon possibly thieving. Big East is a 4-bid league.
And I’m sweating if I’m Virginia, TCU, OU, Mississippi State…
I hope the BE is a four bid league. SJU is going to be sweating it out with all the thievery.
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I hope the BE is a four bid league. SJU is going to be sweating it out with all the thievery.
At the worst, they’re in Dayton
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i was just gonna ask if anyone else notices this or something is going on with my tv?
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It was non-stop
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There’s a school with a gambling probe on the verge of making the tournament and a coach who got fired this week on the verge of making it.
God bless the best tournament in sports.
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There’s a school with a gambling probe on the verge of making the tournament and a coach who got fired this week on the verge of making it.
God bless the best tournament in sports.
I would suggest that the Wild West of transfers and NIL have made it even better.
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Yah … BE down to 4 bids … or 3 (?)
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Yah … BE down to 4 bids … or 3 (?)
Alternatively, send Izzo’s ass to the NIT.
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Heck of a performance by the Oregon Center.
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Oregon may have stole Colorado’s bid.
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Why is Colorado "a lock"?
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There’s a school with a gambling probe on the verge of making the tournament and a coach who got fired this week on the verge of making it.
God bless the best tournament in sports.
Also, from many accounts, Kevin Keatts was very much on the chopping block at NC State, 50/50 and at a more demanding program would have been toast…now they win 5 in 5 days and turn an end of season implosion into a tourney bid and he get an extension. Just wild
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Colorado 23 on Ken Pom, Saint John’s 27
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So a brand new athletic director fires Dan Monson on Monday and he ends up winning the Big West. Good for him.
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Ah, the portal…
All five NC State starters are portal guys. Two of three bench players are portal also, to include Jayden Taylor from Butler.
And they stunk this year. Got hot at the right time and won a bad ACC Tourney.
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And they stunk this year. Got hot at the right time and won a bad ACC Tourney.
Got hot and unbelievably lucky in the semifinal.
They were all but beaten down by 6 in the last minute when Virginia kept them alive by fouling a 3 point shooter, missing free throws or their own, and declined to foul when NC State fielded a missed FT with 5 seconds left (even with a foul to give) allowing NC State to connect on a desperation banked in 3 to send the game to OT.
Some times it’s better to be lucky than good.
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Some times it’s better to be lucky than good.
Isn't it always better to be lucky? :D
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Brown, 13-17 overall, up 4 on Yale with a minute left.
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1-point game with 14.3 left. Brown up and in possession
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Brown missed both FTs. Yale wins at the buzzer. Wow. What a finish. Madness, one might say
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Brown missed both FTs. Yale wins at the buzzer. Wow. What a finish. Madness, one might say
Holy Crap.
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Holy Crap.
Missed 3 of 4 FTs in the final :30 did the Brown Bears, proving once again, FTs no matta
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*Brutal* loss for Brown.
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*Brutal* loss for Brown.
Up 6 with :27 left. The epitome of brutality
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Confetti delay at the A-10 title game
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Confetti delay at the A-10 title game
Premature release with 18 min to go in the game. Crowd went wild.
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Premature release with 18 min to go in the game. Crowd went wild.
Kevin Harlan with a great call.
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Missed 3 of 4 FTs in the final :30 did the Brown Bears, proving once again, FTs no matta
Free throws overrated.
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Confetti delay at the A-10 title game
Does that help or hurt the Marquette cause?
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Kevin Harlan is on his A game today. You've gotta hand it to the guy. Good announcers make a huge difference in fan/viewer enjoyment.
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Does that help or hurt the Marquette cause?
It ain’t helping it
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Kevin Harlan is on his A gane today. You've gotta hand it to the guy. Good announcers make a huge difference in fan/viewer enjoyment.
Dan Bonner is good, too, as long as he isn’t stuck with Reggie Miller
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Duquesne with six points since halftime. Seven minutes to play. Still leading VCU. Madness.
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Dan Bonner is good, too, as long as he isn’t stuck with Reggie Miller
You've gotta be really good to make this kind of game exciting. Duquesne is like 1-20 in the 2H. Bonner is solid.
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You've gotta be really good to make this kind of game exciting. Duquesne is like 1-20 in the 2H. Bonner is solid.
I have no idea what Duquesne is doing on offense.
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Wow, Duquesne hasn’t been in the tournament since………..
1977
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Big shot.
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WTH?? Why would you try to dunk that?
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Up 6 with :27 left. The epitome of brutality
If.it were Dartmouth, they could file a grievance with their union rep.
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Quick guess as to the top four seeds and locations:
1: UConn (Brooklyn), Purdue (Indy), Houston (Memphis), North Carolina (Charlotte)
2: ISU (Omaha), Tennessee (Charlotte), Arizona (Salt Lake), Marquette (Indy)
3: Illinois (Omaha), Creighton (Pittsburgh), Baylor (Salt Lake), Duke (Brooklyn)
4: Auburn (Memphis), Kentucky (Pittsburgh). Kansas (Spokane), Alabama (Spokane)
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The crowd at the AAC title game is something
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Terrible call on the charge there
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Just don’t get how Badgers landed someone like Store.
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Just don’t get how Badgers landed someone like Store.
He'll be a first round pick. Does a lot of dumb things, and is inconsistent but I'd be surprised if he doesn't leave after this year.
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Just don’t get how Badgers landed someone like Store.
I'm thinking he was sold on the Johnny Davis role.
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Just don’t get how Badgers landed someone like Store.
I think a lot of it was due to him moving closer to home. He's from Illinois.
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You can't catch your own airball. How on earth do you not see this as a ref?
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He'll be a first round pick. Does a lot of dumb things, and is inconsistent but I'd be surprised if he doesn't leave after this year.
I'd be surprised. I haven't seen a projection with him in the first round.
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You can't catch your own airball. How on earth do you not see this as a ref?
Yes you can. If the refs determine it was a shot attempt, you can rebound it. Different rule than the NBA.
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I'd be surprised. I haven't seen a projection with him in the first round.
That doesn't mean much.
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He'll be a first round pick. Does a lot of dumb things, and is inconsistent but I'd be surprised if he doesn't leave after this year.
High ceiling. The way he moves and his athleticism just seems next level. Doubt he’s back at UW next year. Maybe one year at a blue blood.
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Yes you can. If the refs determine it was a shot attempt, you can rebound it. Different rule than the NBA.
When is an airball not a shot attempt? If that's actually the rule it's pretty stupid.
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If that's actually the rule it's pretty stupid.
Sorry you don't care for it, but it's the rule. Also in high school and middle school.
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When is an airball not a shot attempt? If that's actually the rule it's pretty stupid.
When the referee doesn't think it was one. Its been the rule for a long time now.
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When is an airball not a shot attempt? If that's actually the rule it's pretty stupid.
Write a letter.
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When the referee doesn't think it was one. Its been the rule for a long time now.
I'm confused. Doesn't an airball mean that you're shooting the ball?
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I'm confused. Doesn't an airball mean that you're shooting the ball?
Example. A player picks up his dribble and is quickly closed out by a big man. The player "shoots" an airball, quickly gets around the big to get the "rebound." A ref would rightly judge this to not be an actual shot attempt.
This rule changed probably 30 years ago by the way. You likely didn't notice because its not a common occurrence.
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Example. A player picks up his dribble and is quickly closed out by a big man. The player "shoots" an airball, quickly gets around the big to get the "rebound." A ref would rightly judge this to not be an actual shot attempt.
This rule changed probably 30 years ago by the way. You likely didn't notice because its not a common occurrence.
So the ref determines that shot as a pass?? Like it was an alley oops?
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Why is this so hard to understand? If someone shoots an airball, and the ref considers it a legit shot attempt, they can be the first to touch it. If the refs believes otherwise, then its a travel.
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Why is this so hard to understand? If someone shoots an airball, and the ref considers it a legit shot attempt, they can be the first to touch it. If the refs believes otherwise, then its a travel.
For arguments sake, it.can be considered a dumb rule because it adds subjectivity.
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Why is this so hard to understand? If someone shoots an airball, and the ref considers it a legit shot attempt, they can be the first to touch it. If the refs believes otherwise, then its a travel.
When is an airball not a "legit shot attempt"? None of this makes any sense to me.
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For arguments sake, it.can be considered a dumb rule because it adds subjectivity.
I don't disagree.
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I don't disagree.
Yeah, and it probably is invoked a handful.of times a year.
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When is an airball not a "legit shot attempt"? None of this makes any sense to me.
If someone threw an alley oop but it completely misses the intended target, would you call that an airball?
I think you’re looking at it backward. To me, an airball by definition is a shot that misses everything. A pass that misses everything is neither a shot nor an airball.
At some point there might be a question of whether the player was intending to shoot or pass. But usually it isn’t hard to tell.
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This B10 game is pretty fun.
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Klesmit thinks he's playing us with all these 3s.
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This B10 game is pretty fun.
Feels like a sweet 16 game. High level play and shot making.
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Feels like a sweet 16 game. High level play and shot making.
Also a recipe for how these teams will lose. Neither is good at getting multiple stops
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Neither team is good defensively but that was a high level game.
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Neither team is good defensively but that was a high level game.
I have both on the 9-line