2023-2024 College Basketball Thread

[FairWeatherEagle]

Kansas Dickenson hurt. Not sure prognosis but they would be a nice 3 to our 2 in a region.

[Uncle Rico]

With Baylor's loss to Texas Tech, I suspect they'll move ahead of Marquette for seeding purposes

[HowardsWorld]

Kansas Dickenson hurt. Not sure prognosis but they would be a nice 3 to our 2 in a region.

They are a 4 seed at best

[wisblue]

Princeton won the regular season Ivy title with a 105-83 win over Penn.

They are 24-3 on the season and, if they win the 4 team conference tournament (which is no given), they could be a first round challenge for a 4 or 5 seed. I don't think they would be seeded 15 again this year. They have a Ken Pom rating of 52 and Yale and Cornell (2 of the teams they lost to on the road) are in the top 100.

I think the Ivies are benefitting from some of the transfer chaos because their players don't transfer. So, they get teams with players who play together for several years.

[Uncle Rico]

Drake knocks off Bradley.  Brian Wardle is now free to take the DePaul job

[CountryRoads]

Drake knocks off Bradley.  Brian Wardle is now free to take the DePaul job

Home run hire.

[mugrad_89]

Home run hire.

Maybe we can encourage Shaka to move on and pounce?  🤔

[Zog from Margo]

Filipowski got some practice in when Wake fans rushed the court. https://twitter.com/RossUglem/status/1766618643490594825

[MU1in77]

Filipowski looks pretty good considering he broke a leg and fractured a hip in the court storming at Wake

[cheebs09]

Filipowski looks pretty good considering he broke a leg and fractured a hip in the court storming at Wake

That leg was in good enough shape to try and trip someone.

[wisblue]

Iowa State, Baylor, Duke, and Kansas all lose. If Creighton had lost it would have been a near perfect day.

[Zog from Margo]

Filipowski looks pretty good considering he broke a leg and fractured a hip in the court storming at Wake

Don't forget the concussion he got from sobbing so hard.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

So the top 6 seem pretty clear, right?

Houston
Uconn
Purdue
TN
UNC
AZ

Then a jumble of Marquette, Iowa St., Duke, Baylor, and Creighton.  (After Kansas getting blown out and Dickinson getting hurt I can't imagine they can still get a 2).  As wisblue said, a lot of losses in our favor today. 

Curious to see what the updated brackets look like after this weekend.  Also seems pretty clear there's no chance Marquette falls any lower than a 3 seed. 

[DoctorV]

Iowa State, Baylor, Duke, and Kansas all lose. If Creighton had lost it would have been a near perfect day.

Yup. Already did a quick scrub.

So that leaves
1. Houston, 2. Purdue 3. UConn (whoever wins their conf tourney gets the overall 1, if 2 win who knows?) 4. UNC. 5. Arizona, 6. Tennessee, 7. Marquette, 8. Creighton, 9. Iowa St, 10. Duke, 11. Baylor, 12. Kentucky.

Feels like those final 3 seeds are up for grabs. Kansas and Bama still in play there.

That second spot in Indy still in play with MU v Creighton. Could come down to the BET.

That said, is it better to lose game 1 to Providence or lose again to Creighton to stay ahead of them on the S Curve?
Weird question, I know, but it's actually debatable if Tyler doesn't play in the BET.

I saw Creighton coming strong for that Indy spot and Marquette might actually still get a 2 but lose Indy, odd end of the season

[cheebs09]

Duke students throwing stuff at UNC players after the game. I look forward to Jay Bilas calling for all concessions to be banned.

[Herman Cain]

Duke students throwing stuff at UNC players after the game. I look forward to Jay Bilas calling for all concessions to be banned.

Saw people wearing UNC Gear at the Beach and at Costco today. May be a sign they are building momentum

[tower912]

Duke students throwing stuff at UNC players after the game. I look forward to Jay Bilas calling for all concessions to be banned.

MU did that in 1986.  Kids.

[DoctorV]

Arizona in big trouble. Bronnys Trojans up 11 at the under 8, LeBron in the house

[MuggsyB]

Arizona in big trouble. Bronnys Trojans up 11 at the under 8, LeBron in the house

USC just punked Zona.  This should give the committee something to think about. 

[LloydsLegs]

MU did that in 1986.  Kids.

I remember that game too well.  And I think it was coins that were thrown at UNC players. 

[DoctorV]

USC just punked Zona.  This should give the committee something to think about.

Not much to think about Muggsy, 2 seed out west.

They looked brutal tonight, like really bad.

Wish Marquette had them in their path, but won't happen. They will be lined up with the last 1 seed probably, unless they lose in game 1 in the conference tourney and fall behind teams like Marquette and Creighton and end up in the Midwest.
Seems unlikely though, as the bracketologists and the committee to follow are creatures of habit and stick with what's been said in the past month.

They are so engrained in people's mind as a 1/2 that I think it's hard to move to a back end 3 and end up in the Midwest or out east.
Kansas might be a bit different because it's been a longer problem and there's injury stuff.

Arizonas top end wins and numbers are too good to not be out west barring an early loss in Vegas and a Creighton or Marquette BET win over UConn plus some B12 magic from the other 2s

[MuggsyB]

Not much to think about Muggsy, 2 seed out west.

They looked brutal tonight, like really bad.

Wish Marquette had them in their path, but won't happen. They will be lined up with the last 1 seed probably, unless they lose in game 1 in the conference tourney and fall behind teams like Marquette and Creighton and end up in the Midwest.
Seems unlikely though, as the bracketologists and the committee to follow are creatures of habit and stick with what's been said in the past month.

They are so engrained in people's mind as a 1/2 that I think it's hard to move to a back end 3 and end up in the Midwest or out east.
Kansas might be a bit different because it's been a longer problem and there's injury stuff.

Arizonas top end wins and numbers are too good to not be out west barring an early loss in Vegas and a Creighton or Marquette BET win over UConn plus some B12 magic from the other 2s

I think we're a 2 right now and can't slip past a 3. 

[1SE]

Yup. Already did a quick scrub.

So that leaves
1. Houston, 2. Purdue 3. UConn (whoever wins their conf tourney gets the overall 1, if 2 win who knows?) 4. UNC. 5. Arizona, 6. Tennessee, 7. Marquette, 8. Creighton, 9. Iowa St, 10. Duke, 11. Baylor, 12. Kentucky.

Feels like those final 3 seeds are up for grabs. Kansas and Bama still in play there.

That second spot in Indy still in play with MU v Creighton. Could come down to the BET.

That said, is it better to lose game 1 to Providence or lose again to Creighton to stay ahead of them on the S Curve?
Weird question, I know, but it's actually debatable if Tyler doesn't play in the BET.

I saw Creighton coming strong for that Indy spot and Marquette might actually still get a 2 but lose Indy, odd end of the season

This looks right, but I think the BET semi final will determine who gets the 2 - assuming both teams make it.

If we getvtherr, and Tyler hadn't played in quarters - do you maybe go w him even if he's not 100% w a 2 seed on the line?

[GB Warrior]

I remember that game too well.  And I think it was coins that were thrown at UNC players.

So MU was just progressive on the NIL front?

[wisblue]

This looks right, but I think the BET semi final will determine who gets the 2 - assuming both teams make it.

If we getvtherr, and Tyler hadn't played in quarters - do you maybe go w him even if he's not 100% w a 2 seed on the line?

I agree that the BET will decide the relative seeding between MU and Creighton.

I also agree that MU is slightly ahead of CU now but, if CU beats MU in the semifinal,that would flip them ahead. I also think they go ahead if MU loses to Nova and CU advances to the final. It would be a closer call if Nova would also beat CU in the semifinal.

I would absolutely not play Kolek if he is not completely ready just to try to improve NCAA seeding. I don't think having one of the last number 2 seeds as opposed to one of the top 3 seeds makes enough difference in the team's prospects for advancement in the NCAA (if it makes any difference at all) to warrant rushing Kolek into action.

We should have some discussion over the next few days about the advantage of having a 2 seed vs a 3 seed. Maybe I'll start a separate thread for that.

BTW, I don't necessarily agree that MU and CU are currently in consecutive positions on the NCAA seed list, or that they are ahead of all of Iowa State, Baylor, and Duke. I think those teams are pretty tightly bunched.