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Title: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 03, 2009, 03:30:56 PM
Since burgers should be left to the burger thread, how about a new one?

Good beer deserves its own discussion.

Anyone try a new one lately or have a recommendation?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 03, 2009, 03:48:09 PM
Thanks for starting this thread. I have been participating in one on the Brewers board that has been going for a over a year and it is fun. Anyway, this is what I have my in fridge right now:

Dogfish Head 60 min IPA – Love this beer. Bold hops. Like 90 min more though.
Three Floyds Gumballhead – My current favorite beer. Hoppy wheat beer. Awesome!
Three Floyds Alpha King – Big strong APA.
Three Floyds Robert the Bruce – A really nice malty beer with a good hop balance. It is there version of a Scotch Ale.
Three Floyds Pride & Joy – A mild ale with strong hops.
Bells Two Hearted – a staple in my fridge. The quintessential American IPA along with Dogfish Head 90 min.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2009, 04:04:47 PM
Did someone say Beer?

Luckily I've liven in two of the greatest states for beer (Wisconsin, and Colorado - need to spend some time in Oregon I guess...).

Anyhow, I just finished off a keg of Lefthand Milk Stout - awesome beer if you like smooth stouts.  Also great for car bombs - not that I'd know...

Also recently tried a Rouge Double Dead Guy ale (2007 I think).  Just a touch smoother than the normal Dead Guy ale because of the aging.

Another of my favorites (and probably my next Keg), is Abita Turbo Dog, from Louisiana. 

Tommyknocker Maple Nut Brown ale is a very easy to drink beer from Idaho Springs, CO.  Good flavor, though not very complex.  (If you want complex, go with the Imperial Nut Brown).

My workplace is just down the street from Oscar Blue's (new) main brewery - stopped in their tasting room last night.  They typically go overboard on hops (which I like), but their Gordon Imperial IPA is a very tasty beer, certain to give you a sensory overload. (Technically, they describe it as a "hybrid version of strong ale, somewhere between an Imperial Red and a Double IPA").

Whew - I could go on.  But those are some good starting points :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 03, 2009, 04:10:14 PM
Had Sprecher's Scotch Ale the other night, not my favorite style but not bad at all.

Far and away the favorite new beer I've tried is Founder's Kentucky Breakfast Stout. Jet black, pours a thin head, has a very strong coffee flavor and packs a punch at 10% ABV. Aged in bourbon barrels for a year. Really outstanding stuff.

Another good stout I've had recently is Rogue Chocolate Stout. Full flavored stout with a hint of chocolate, although the aroma would say otherwise. Very drinkable.

Love a good wheat, so I'll have to try the Gumballhead. Dancing Man from New Glarus should be out soon. Time to transition to the spring and summer beer.

I have to put this out there as well- for anyone wanting to try a wide variety of American craft beer, Sugar Maple in Bay View is a must. 60 beers on tap, including many that are next to impossible to find in WI.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on April 03, 2009, 04:12:54 PM
Lakefront's Riverwest
Goose Island's 312


Miller Lite
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mosarsour on April 03, 2009, 04:21:23 PM
<------- Sticks to Miller Lite with the occassional Pacifico.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MilTown on April 03, 2009, 04:23:05 PM
Goose Island Bourbon County Stout. I think they refer to this as an Imperial Stout. This stuff is high octane and complex, a sipper for sure. It's a seasonal and probably hard to find on tap, but you will find bottles floating around at bars around chicago and for sale at Binny's and Sam's. You can age for about 5 years too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on April 03, 2009, 04:25:32 PM
Brewing some great beer here.  Available in parts of WI, Chicago and all of MN.

http://www.surlybrewing.com/beers.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: drewm88 on April 03, 2009, 04:34:27 PM
Recently tried Belhaven Scottish Ale. Absolutely incredible. A little similar to Smithwick's. Has a bit of a smoky flavor. I loved this beer. I know they sell it at Discount Liquor, haven't found it anywhere else around here yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on April 03, 2009, 04:42:11 PM
I have been enjoying the Yazoo collection lately.
Brewed in Nashville, TN the Hefe, Sly Rye Porter, and Dos Perros are my favorites.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: nyg on April 03, 2009, 04:58:44 PM
Key West Ale.  Best with Category 3 wings with raspberry chipotle sauce from the Hurricane Grill. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on April 03, 2009, 05:01:01 PM
I'm partial to Wittekerke for a good Belgium Wheat and Bell's Porter for a darker beer.

Though going through MU with the Bud House a half a block away and being able to get a half barrel of Bud for our Lighthouse fridge for $23, we drank an awful lot of Bud, so I still prefer Bud if I'm drinking domestic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 03, 2009, 05:37:09 PM
Bell's Oberon.   So popular regionally they have a party to celebrate the tapping of the new year's vintage.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 03, 2009, 05:39:25 PM
Do Gin and Vodka count as beer?

If not, Miller Lite and the occasional Heineken.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 03, 2009, 05:47:52 PM
Bell's Oberon.   So popular regionally they have a party to celebrate the tapping of the new year's vintage.   

just came out this week. going to get a 6 pack this weekend. still not as popular as Dark Lord by Three Floyds where they have a festival for the one day a year you can purchase it. You need tickets and the tickets sell out fast. You buy tickets to buy beer. It is nuts.

http://www.darklordday.com/ (http://www.darklordday.com/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on April 03, 2009, 06:53:42 PM
I'm enjoying some Sam Adams White Ale right now, and looking forward to Sam Summer coming out in a few weeks.

Also a big fan of Boulder Beer Company, their MoJo is amazing.

And I just discovered Bluepoint Brewing Company out of Long Island, their Hoptical Illusion IPA is fantastic!

Any other IPA suggestions would be welcomed.  Shame no decent IPA's coming out of MKE.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on April 03, 2009, 07:38:28 PM
IT'S SHANDY SEASON!!!

(http://csupueblotoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/leinies_032407_125x232.jpg)

You sure you don't want to call change this threads name to "Beyond Busch Light" MUFan?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: muwarrior87 on April 03, 2009, 07:43:31 PM
I have to put this out there as well- for anyone wanting to try a wide variety of American craft beer, Sugar Maple in Bay View is a must. 60 beers on tap, including many that are next to impossible to find in WI.

wonder how you found out about that place... ;) right around the corner from a certain weekend morning home away from home...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2009, 07:46:03 PM
Tonight's beverage of choice:

(http://www.thedrinkshop.com/images/products/main/4390/4390.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 03, 2009, 08:17:53 PM
Having a Furthermore Fatty Boombalatty. Pretty darn tasty. It is just a hodge podge of styles which doesn't surprise me coming from them. It is Belgium White crossed with a Pale Ale. Damn this is good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 03, 2009, 09:39:45 PM
too poor for good beer this week, knocking back a 20 pack of the bullet!

it is nice to live w/in 35 mins of New Glarus and 15 mins from Capital brewery.   ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Pakuni on April 04, 2009, 12:14:06 AM
too poor for good beer this week, knocking back a 20 pack of the bullet!

it is nice to live w/in 35 mins of New Glarus and 15 mins from Capital brewery.   ;D

Did you just refer to the Bullet as beer?
Hmmmm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ATWizJr on April 04, 2009, 07:40:22 AM
zivic!  available at Crocus on South 13th street between Morgan and Haward.  also, great authentic Polish food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 04, 2009, 09:09:07 AM
Capital Brewery does a very good job. Their Maibock is one of the best I've ever had in that style. I have the Blonde Dopplebock in my fridge right now, another excellent beer.

Thinking of picking up some Oberon tonight.
Title: The Beer Thread
Post by: creanh8r on April 04, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
For those of you that love an awesome IPA try Bell's Hopslam. It has 100+ IBU's and is delicious. 10% alcohol to boot. It's only available for a limited time and is out right now. It is IMO one of the best beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on April 04, 2009, 10:07:44 AM
Favorite Breweries:
Stone Brewery (San Diego) http://www.stonebrew.com/
Ale Asylum (Madison) http://www.aleasylum.com/

Favorite Beers:
Stone Ruination (Stone Brewery)  Best IPA hands down... better than the 90 min Dog... 100+ IBU... though it runs around $15 a 6pack. http://www.stonebrew.com/ruin/
Ale Asylum Ambergeddon (Ale Asylum) My go to beer, a hoppy amber beer that always puts me in a great mood.
Ale Asylum Hoppilicious (Ale Asylum) another great IPA... and was just put on tap in a few places in MKE
Stone OAKED Arrogant Bastard Ale (Stone Brewery) again, delicious... all of their beer is grade A

other random favorites:
anything by the big 6
Lake Louie's Coon Rock Cream Ale http://www.lakelouie.com/
Schlitz using their old recipe
Victory HopDevil http://www.victorybeer.com/home.html

Basically, I love all beer, and it was pretty hard to make a short list... but rather than type an anthology about beer, I tried to be concise.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on April 04, 2009, 10:09:39 AM
Capital Brewery does a very good job. Their Maibock is one of the best I've ever had in that style. I have the Blonde Dopplebock in my fridge right now, another excellent beer.

Thinking of picking up some Oberon tonight.

Capital is going to totally ruin themselves.  They think that the swill they brew is worth over $9 for a six pack.

IMHO Leinie's has a similar Mai and is $6 a 6 pack.  If Capital doesn't drop their prices, other breweries in the state will grab their share.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: greenman on April 04, 2009, 09:49:19 PM

Three Floyds Gumballhead – My current favorite beer. Hoppy wheat beer. Awesome!


This has quickly moved into my top three. Love the citrus flavor, grapefruit gives it an awesome finish. Its pretty hard to get in the CHI area in my experience. althought I bought a case of it at a Whole Foods in Glenview. Ive kept a 6 pack over the winter and plan on enjoying on opening day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 05, 2009, 04:51:27 PM
Where can I get Three Floyds in the Milwaukee area? I'd be interested to try some.

EDIT- Saw some at Discount and Whole Foods, but no Gumballhead. Is it out yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 08, 2009, 09:38:04 AM
Having a Furthermore Fatty Boombalatty. Pretty darn tasty. It is just a hodge podge of styles which doesn't surprise me coming from them. It is Belgium White crossed with a Pale Ale. Damn this is good.

That's real good stuff. I'm also a fan of their Knot Stock, a Pale Ale brewed with cracked pepper. They do some pretty interesting stuff up in Spring Green.

http://www.furthermorebeer.com/ourbeer.html

Also picked up some of the Breckenridge Oatmeal Stout, pretty solid stout. But it won't be unseating the Founder's Breakfast Stout any time soon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on April 08, 2009, 09:49:01 AM
Where can I get Three Floyds in the Milwaukee area? I'd be interested to try some.

EDIT- Saw some at Discount and Whole Foods, but no Gumballhead. Is it out yet?

I'm also very interested in this Gumballhead, any info would be great.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Mobot on April 08, 2009, 10:06:47 AM

Dogfish Head 60 min IPA – Love this beer. Bold hops. Like 90 min more though.


Otto's in Cedarburg has Dogfish 120 min IPA in stock for only $8 per 12oz bottle.

21% ABV!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 08, 2009, 10:39:07 AM
I'm also very interested in this Gumballhead, any info would be great.

I bring it up or have it brought up from Chicago about once a month. The only Three Floyds available in bottles in Milwaukee, or Wisconsin for that matter, are the 22oz Bombers. That means no Gumball Head, Alpha King, Pride & Joy or Robert the Bruce.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 08, 2009, 10:49:08 AM
Had two new beers and an old one last night:

Magic Hat #9 - Interesting beer that is very smooth. It could have used more hops IMO.
Boulder Brewing Mojo IPA - This was a very drinkable yet dry IPA. Not as citrusy as I like my hops but really freaking good

Also had a New Glarus Crack'd Wheat - love this wheat beer. Hoppy yet wheaty. It is good!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 08, 2009, 10:50:13 AM
I'm enjoying some Sam Adams White Ale right now, and looking forward to Sam Summer coming out in a few weeks.

Also a big fan of Boulder Beer Company, their MoJo is amazing.

And I just discovered Bluepoint Brewing Company out of Long Island, their Hoptical Illusion IPA is fantastic!

Any other IPA suggestions would be welcomed.  Shame no decent IPA's coming out of MKE.

re: BBC - they hosted a beer tasting party (Beer Rave) a couple months ago where they scoured the US for hard to find micros - excellent event.  Anyhow, I assume you've had their Hazed & Infused?  They also had a keg of Hazed that had been aged in a whiskey barrel - one of the best beers I've ever had.

Do you only like true IPA's or are you just a hop-head in general?  If the latter, try to get your hands on Oscar Blues "Dale's Pale Ale".  Comes in a red white & blue can, but don't let the can fool you. It's a big beer.

(http://www.oskarblues.com/images/New%20can_r2_c2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 08, 2009, 11:07:53 AM
I bring it up or have it brought up from Chicago about once a month. The only Three Floyds available in bottles in Milwaukee, or Wisconsin for that matter, are the 22oz Bombers. That means no Gumball Head, Alpha King, Pride & Joy or Robert the Bruce.

Damn. I found this link... is this even legal? I didn't know you could ship alcohol like that. Might be worth a shot.

http://www.samswine.com/Three%20Floyds%20Gumball%20Head%20Bottle/10049164,default,pd.html?cgid=THREEFLOYDS
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 08, 2009, 11:13:21 AM
Damn. I found this link... is this even legal? I didn't know you could ship alcohol like that. Might be worth a shot.

http://www.samswine.com/Three%20Floyds%20Gumball%20Head%20Bottle/10049164,default,pd.html?cgid=THREEFLOYDS

100% legal to most states - I want to say like 38 of them. Always weird hold outs in those born again states - but for most of America you can. Or just make the 3 hr drive to Chicago and stock up - it's not too bad.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: muarmy81 on April 08, 2009, 11:16:57 AM
I've always been a fan of Leinie's Red as well as their Sunset Wheat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 08, 2009, 11:22:57 AM
100% legal to most states - I want to say like 38 of them. Always weird hold outs in those born again states - but for most of America you can. Or just make the 3 hr drive to Chicago and stock up - it's not too bad.

Yikes, at $16 shipping, I'm better off driving down there!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on April 08, 2009, 11:39:44 AM
re: BBC - they hosted a beer tasting party (Beer Rave) a couple months ago where they scoured the US for hard to find micros - excellent event.  Anyhow, I assume you've had their Hazed & Infused?  They also had a keg of Hazed that had been aged in a whiskey barrel - one of the best beers I've ever had.

Do you only like true IPA's or are you just a hop-head in general?  If the latter, try to get your hands on Oscar Blues "Dale's Pale Ale".  Comes in a red white & blue can, but don't let the can fool you. It's a big beer.

(http://www.oskarblues.com/images/New%20can_r2_c2.jpg)

I have seen that canned IPA at my local packy, but never thought about buying it.  Tonight I will.

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WalterSobchak on April 08, 2009, 11:41:21 AM
For those of you that love an awesome IPA try Bell's Hopslam. It has 100+ IBU's and is delicious. 10% alcohol to boot. It's only available for a limited time and is out right now. It is IMO one of the best beers.
Hopslam is money.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 08, 2009, 11:46:15 AM
Hopslam is money.

Anyone know of a store that still has some in stock in the Milwaukee Area? All of my local places I go to are out until next winter.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 08, 2009, 11:47:49 AM
Anyone know of a store that still has some in stock in the Milwaukee Area? All of my local places I go to are out until next winter.

I saw some last week at Whole Foods on Prospect and North.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GGGG on April 08, 2009, 12:17:40 PM
Anything from Sierra Nevada is good.  Their Pale Ale can be found anywhere, but their Porter and Stout are also very good.

A new one that popped up recently is Central Waters Brewing out of Amherst, WI.  Not a huge fans of their Red, but their Porter is about as good a porter as I have had.

http://centralwaters.com/beer/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on April 09, 2009, 10:03:07 AM
re: BBC - they hosted a beer tasting party (Beer Rave) a couple months ago where they scoured the US for hard to find micros - excellent event.  Anyhow, I assume you've had their Hazed & Infused?  They also had a keg of Hazed that had been aged in a whiskey barrel - one of the best beers I've ever had.

Do you only like true IPA's or are you just a hop-head in general?  If the latter, try to get your hands on Oscar Blues "Dale's Pale Ale".  Comes in a red white & blue can, but don't let the can fool you. It's a big beer.

(http://www.oskarblues.com/images/New%20can_r2_c2.jpg)

An enthusiastic +1

Had a few of these pops last night during the game, and they were great.

Thanks for the suggestion!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jficke13 on April 09, 2009, 10:20:27 AM
I had the Satin Solstice Imperial Stout from the Central Waters Brewery; damn good.

If you ever feel like getting international I would recommend just about anything from Belgium. Try Rochefort 10, Westmalle Dubbel, or anything from Chimay. A great place for these in the MKE area is the Palm Tavern in Bay View. It's actually pretty close to the Sugar Maple.

Personally I think that anything the major-brewers puts out is tolerable at best, but since I brew my own I'm definitely a beer snob.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on April 09, 2009, 12:52:43 PM
Also brew my own, and I agree, Chimay is great.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on April 09, 2009, 01:49:41 PM
I had the Satin Solstice Imperial Stout from the Central Waters Brewery; damn good.

If you ever feel like getting international I would recommend just about anything from Belgium. Try Rochefort 10, Westmalle Dubbel, or anything from Chimay. A great place for these in the MKE area is the Palm Tavern in Bay View. It's actually pretty close to the Sugar Maple.

Personally I think that anything the major-brewers puts out is tolerable at best, but since I brew my own I'm definitely a beer snob.

Centraal on KK has a good selection of Belgian beers on tap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 09, 2009, 03:23:50 PM
Centraal on KK has a good selection of Belgian beers on tap.

Cafe Centraal is part of the Diablo Rojos group in Milwaukee and all of their places have great Belgium selections. And they are going smoke free now for brunch. http://onmilwaukee.com/dining/articles/diablossmokefree.html (http://onmilwaukee.com/dining/articles/diablossmokefree.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GGGG on April 09, 2009, 04:19:13 PM
It's too bad that Zur Krone closed down on 2nd Street about ten years ago.  Talk about a fantastic selection of imports.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on April 13, 2009, 12:30:54 PM
Get that Shandy crap off this board...might as well be drinking Berry Weiss.


New Glarus puts out some great beers every year. Besides their usually great beers (Spotted Cow, Fat Squirrel, Totally Naked)....check out Stone Soup, Uffda Bock, Crack'd Wheat, and Hearty Hop IPA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 16, 2009, 12:37:57 AM
Really looking forward to New Glarus Dancing Man Wheat in May.

Finally got a hold of Three Floyd's Gumballhead via some "interstate commerce." Phenomenal. In fact, I'm enjoying one right now. I have a feeling I'll be stocking up on this as the summer goes on. Props to those who recommended this one!

Had a few new brews this week. Had the Belgian White from Horny Goat Brewing Co. Pretty run of the mill, decent Witbier. Not as sweet as others in this style, which was a plus in my book.

A friend of mine picked up a sampler pack from Abita Brewing Co. out of Louisiana. Had the Turbodog, which was their English Brown Ale. Similar to a Newcastle, but much more complex and full-flavored. Had their Amber, which was pretty average, nothing terribly special about it compared to other Ambers.

Also had Abita Purple Haze, a Raspberry Wheat. For a fruit beer, it's very good. Think Berry Weiss, except good. Pours a golden color, the tartness and flavor of the Raspberry are there, but it's very balanced. Great summer beer. I'll be looking for some more of this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on April 16, 2009, 11:18:29 AM
The Dancing Man is great, but it is dangerous.

As for the Horny Goat... were you at the Brewers/Cubs game on Sunday?  They were giving out free tastes of it then...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 16, 2009, 11:28:12 AM
Breckenridge Porter is tasty.   Vanilla, enough to soften the porter and actually leave a slight aftertaste. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on April 16, 2009, 11:37:15 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123976316293519743.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123976316293519743.html)

Make sure to snatch up any Oregon Microbrews now before they either disappear or cost too much to make it worth drinking.

Sadness...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on April 17, 2009, 09:55:18 PM

the one and only - Three Floyds Dreadnaught

& Romans is supposed to have it on tap next week...

http://www.romanspub.com/beersel.htm  (http://www.romanspub.com/beersel.htm)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 18, 2009, 08:25:29 AM
Dreadnaught is unnatural carnal knowledgeing amazing IPA but watch out or it will kick you square in the dick. I have a case of Gumball Head coming up for the NFL draft next Sunday which is pretty tits if you ask me. I think I am still drunk from last night. Time to go golfing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 18, 2009, 08:58:49 AM
the one and only - Three Floyds Dreadnaught

& Romans is supposed to have it on tap next week...

http://www.romanspub.com/beersel.htm  (http://www.romanspub.com/beersel.htm)

Hooligan's has Alpha King on tap. Had some last night while watching the Brewers game. Very tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: wfboy on April 20, 2009, 03:50:22 PM
 :)
Carlsberg on tap is mother's milk!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WalterSobchak on April 21, 2009, 12:18:40 PM
(http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/media/beer_profiles/BurningRiver_BottleGlass.jpg)
I'm a fan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Avenue Commons on April 21, 2009, 04:22:27 PM
Goose Island Bourbon County Stout. I think they refer to this as an Imperial Stout. This stuff is high octane and complex, a sipper for sure. It's a seasonal and probably hard to find on tap, but you will find bottles floating around at bars around chicago and for sale at Binny's and Sam's. You can age for about 5 years too.

Haven't tried that. Thanks for the head's up.

I'm a big fan of 312s and the Goose Island seasonal brews.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 21, 2009, 04:48:23 PM
Haven't tried that. Thanks for the head's up.

I'm a big fan of 312s and the Goose Island seasonal brews.

Goose Island is Budweiser now. A macro micro.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: soloWarrior on April 21, 2009, 04:56:31 PM
+1 Great Lakes.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MilTown on April 21, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
It's still Goose Island. From what I remember Anheuser Busch bought about 30-35%. In the end its about distribution. With Anheuser on board, Goose's distribution expanded greatly. Besides, does it really matter if its a micro, marcro, micro/macro or craft brewery? Good beer is good beer, period.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 21, 2009, 05:49:50 PM
It's still Goose Island. From what I remember Anheuser Busch bought about 30-35%. In the end its about distribution. With Anheuser on board, Goose's distribution expanded greatly. Besides, does it really matter if its a micro, marcro, micro/macro or craft brewery? Good beer is good beer, period.

Bud owns them entirely. They have a similar agreement as the Leinenkugel Brewery does with Miller. The only odd one is the Blue Moon Brewing Company that was started by Coors.

Personally all three of the above are pedestrian at best for breweries. They are the entry level micro beers for people who are trying to experiment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Rollout-the-Barrel on April 21, 2009, 09:46:38 PM
Lived in the state of Washington for awhile and was able to enjoy the best beer I've ever had.  The pacific northwest produces most of the hops in the US and the breweries out there use that to their advantage.  Since I've moved back to the midwest I've started brewing my own and highly recommend it if you like more exotic or tough to get beer.  Made a Belgium triple recently that would temper any bad day.
Currently I have a quadruple hopped IPA in the fridge with high life diesel to cleanse the pallet.
If you live in Wisconsin you really can't miss the Great Taste of Midwest in Madison in August.  Best tasting I've ever been too with over 100 different brewers from the Midwest.  Had a hot pepper beer there last year which was perfect after sampling 20+ beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 21, 2009, 10:01:11 PM
Had a Sierra Nevada Torpedo IPA tonight. Not bad for a beer from SN who I usually thinks produces way overrated beers. Good bit to the hoppyness. Like a poor mans Two Hearted.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MilTown on April 21, 2009, 10:23:06 PM
Goose Island is NOT fully owned by Anheuser Busch/InBev. AB through an affiliate owns a minority interest in Goose. Goose operates indepentenly but utilizes the Anheuser Busch distribution system.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 21, 2009, 11:36:50 PM
Had a hot pepper beer there last year which was perfect after sampling 20+ beers.

We get quite a few green chili beers out in CO.  I've only seen a couple in bottles (bombers), usually just on tap at brewpubs.  Had one last weekend while visiting Ft. Collins and eating at Coopersmiths (http://www.coopersmithspub.com/beer.pl). 

Smells like green chilli.  Tastes like beer.  Burns your throat like green chilli.  Ahh  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jaybilaswho? on April 22, 2009, 10:53:57 AM
New Belguim Brewing Company's Fat Tire is my favorite beer, which will finally be available in Wisconsin (to Madison and Milwaukee) in early May. The rest of the state will have to wait until early July for full distribution.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on April 22, 2009, 11:11:11 AM
New Belguim Brewing Company's Fat Tire is my favorite beer, which will finally be available in Wisconsin (to Madison and Milwaukee) in early May. The rest of the state will have to wait until early July for full distribution.


This has recently become available in Tennessee as well.  Their wit beer is very good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on April 22, 2009, 12:11:44 PM
http://77square.com/food/salud/story_447823
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 22, 2009, 12:19:06 PM
New Belguim Brewing Company's Fat Tire is my favorite beer, which will finally be available in Wisconsin (to Madison and Milwaukee) in early May. The rest of the state will have to wait until early July for full distribution.

Funny, obviously you get a lot of Fat Tire out here (in CO), and unfortunately it's not my favorite (though I do love most of their other beers.  1554 Belgium Black ale is awesome!  Tripple is good too.).  Nonetheless, if you get a chance to drink Fat Tire on Tap - it's 10x better than out of the bottle.  I can't drink it out of the bottle anymore - tastes skunky compared to draft. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on April 22, 2009, 12:24:43 PM
.  1554 Belgium Black ale is awesome! 


Any other beers you would compare to the 1554?  I have had a lot of Belgian beers, but can't remember any of them being referred to as a Black Ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on April 22, 2009, 12:50:05 PM
Fat Tire on Tap - it's 10x better than out of the bottle.  I can't drink it out of the bottle anymore - tastes skunky compared to draft. 

100% agreed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUDish on April 22, 2009, 01:12:11 PM
Anyone else a fan of Kilkenny? Can't get it here in the US, but it's available nearly everywhere else in the world.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 22, 2009, 01:21:12 PM
Anyone else a fan of Kilkenny? Can't get it here in the US, but it's available nearly everywhere else in the world.

I enjoyed it when I was over in Ireland but had more Smithwick's with Guiness head than anything. That was a long few years waiting for Smithwick's to get to the states.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 23, 2009, 01:39:32 AM
Any other beers you would compare to the 1554?  I have had a lot of Belgian beers, but can't remember any of them being referred to as a Black Ale.

Honestly....no.  I attended a New Belgium tasting event in Boulder a couple years ago, and got the very interesting story on it.  The "Belgium black" is a recipe that they had heard of, but didn't know how to brew.  They took a trip to Belgium, lied to a few librarians, and eventually found out how to brew it from some text of the city market from the year 1554!  It had disappeared for a few centuries!  Here's the story on their website, which doesn't include the lying to librarians part :)

http://www.newbelgium.com/beer/1554

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 24, 2009, 11:11:56 AM
Tried a few at Sugar Maple last night.

Central Waters Honey Blonde- Solid Cream Ale, very smooth. Subtle honey with a malty taste. I could drink this again, very drinkable beer.

Rogue Chocolate Stout- Outstanding. Beer of the night for me. Pours a thin cinnamon colored head, and has a strong chocolate aroma, which makes you think you'll be drinking a candy bar. Very balanced chocolate flavor with the traditional stout flavors. A subtle sweetness from the chocolate is there. This beer gets better as it warms as well.  Had it on tap, it's available at Blatz Liquor in Milwaukee in 22 oz bombers.

Bear Republic Racer 5 IPA- Saw this on the list and had to try it after hearing some great things. If IPA's are your thing, this is a perfect beer. Pours a great copper color with a good head. Strong citrus aroma, and a very hoppy taste with a nice bitter finish. One of the better IPA's I've had.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: DomJamesToTheBasket on April 25, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
Bells Two Hearted – a staple in my fridge.


Hell yeah!

Add Riverwest Stein as an accessable tap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 28, 2009, 09:35:36 PM
Built a six pack of Rogue Dead Guy and 5 beers I haven't had yet.

Left Hand Milk Stout- Saw this mentioned early in the thread, very smooth, tasty stout. Subtle sweet chocolate flavor with the traditional roasted malts. Overall a good stout to add to the rotation.

New Glarus Alt- Very unique beer. Pours an amber color with a solid head that stays with the beer. Very malty, with some oak and vanilla flavors that come out more as the beer warms. Full flavored, and deceptively heavy. New Glarus put an interesting twist on the style. One that I'm glad I tried before it goes away.

Magic Hat #9- Pale ale with apricot, which comes through right away in the aroma. I actually really like this one as a summer beer. Light and very easy to drink. Has a nice clean finish, which isn't the easiest in a fruity beer. But I can definitely see how pale ale fans would want more hops out of this one.

Bell's Kalamazoo Stout- Pretty decent stout, nothing really to write home about. Could do worse, but there are a lot of other stouts that are better.

Dogfish Head 60 min IPA- This one took me by surprise. Seeing IPA I thought it would be more citrusy with the hops. Instead, it drank more like a traditional pale ale. Interesting, and pretty good. I'd drink it again, but if I were going for an IPA I'd go Two Hearted or Racer 5.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 12, 2009, 09:53:47 PM
So I'm sitting here watching the ballgame with my first Dancing Man Wheat of the season, and figured it was time to revive this thread!

Anyone had the New Belgium stuff yet? I know its new to WI, and many have had Fat Tire, but I was curious as to other people's thoughts.

I'd never had any New Belgium stuff, but bought some 22 oz. bombers of each when they were released. I loved the Fat Tire, it's one of the best, if not the best Amber I've had. It's not their best beer though.

Really liked the Mothership Wit, that could be a summer staple for me. Light, very carbonated, but drinkable with a strong citrus flavor. Yet it avoids stepping into the "orange juice and beer" trap that some other Belgian Wheats fall into. My favorite was the 1554 by a long shot. Great Belgian dark ale, had a strong roasted malt flavor, but was balanced by some sweetness and a hint of cocoa. Very drinkable for how complex it is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on May 12, 2009, 10:16:53 PM
I had the dancing man recently. not my choice actually. It has a strong flavor but not anything I like. I can't totally remember what it was but it wasn't that great IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: drewm88 on May 19, 2009, 11:25:20 PM
Recently went to Colorado and tried a handful of stuff I'd never had before. Most was mediocre at best.

Don't bother with the Breckenridge Brewery at all. Got a sampler pack of their signature Avalanche Ale (red), IPA, Agave Wheat, and Vanilla Porter. Avalanche and IPA were as generic as those two types can get, the porter was decent, and the best was the wheat, which was solid, not special. Overall, a disappointment.

Also had O'dell's Easy Street Wheat. Again, disappointment. Average tasting.

Had what according to the waitress was New Belgium's seasonal wheat, but the name she gave us is not on their website (nor do they claim a seasonal wheat), so I'm not sure what it really was. Either way, it was merely decent.

Brought home a 6 pack of Boulder's Singletrack Copper Ale. That stuff is good. Not spectacular, but by far the best of the 7 CO beers I tried.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on May 20, 2009, 11:58:59 AM
sobelman's now carries more exclusive beers like a few I had at VOX up around north ave or at The Abby. I can't remember the name I think it was Magic Gumball er something (a good beer whatever the name but tough to drink more than a few in one sitting). Another one they added was a 24?oz Tall Boy That Tom Crean's Tanning Bed was telling me about last week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 20, 2009, 12:42:21 PM
sobelman's now carries more exclusive beers like a few I had at VOX up around north ave or at The Abby. I can't remember the name I think it was Magic Gumball er something (a good beer whatever the name but tough to drink more than a few in one sitting). Another one they added was a 24?oz Tall Boy That Tom Crean's Tanning Bed was telling me about last week.

Magic Hat? I know I have been seeing Magic Hat #9 around lately on tap. Great beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on May 20, 2009, 04:40:52 PM
yes magic hat!

I swear there was a gumball one too
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 21, 2009, 12:28:39 PM
recently tried beers

1554 - not sure who recommended it, but it was sub par.  sorry.
Ale Asylum Ballistic - more taste than Hoppilicious, but the differences were mild at best.
Left hand Brewery Milk Stout - great, much better than I expected.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on May 21, 2009, 12:44:54 PM
recently tried beers
1554 - not sure who recommended it, but it was sub par.  sorry.

Damn you...blasphemy! 

Nah - I don't expect everyone to like the same beers - otherwise we wouldn't have all these wonderful beers to try.  Glad you like the milk stout though - if you ever get a chance to try it on tap - it's even better!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Mobot on May 21, 2009, 12:52:39 PM
Bell's Oberon is a great summer brew.  I have heard that it is better with a slice of orange although I haven't tried it yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 21, 2009, 01:05:52 PM
Bell's Oberon is a great summer brew.  I have heard that it is better with a slice of orange although I haven't tried it yet.

You don't fruit the beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 21, 2009, 03:34:45 PM
agreed...

the 1554 was just nothing spectacular... Honestly, I thought it tasted a lot like a milder version of my home brewed Russian Imperial Stout.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MilTown on May 21, 2009, 03:39:51 PM
Big fan of anything Bells, including Oberon (sans orange). If you enjoy the milk stouts, you should try Bells Double Cream Stout. Very good beer.

I just recently tried Dogfish Head Indian Brown Ale. Very solid. 

Anyone have any recomendations for Oatmeal Stouts? I'm impartial to Samuel Smith and Goose Island, but I would love to expand my horizons as they say.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on May 21, 2009, 03:43:33 PM
sobelman's now carries more exclusive beers like a few I had at VOX up around north ave or at The Abby. I can't remember the name I think it was Magic Gumball er something (a good beer whatever the name but tough to drink more than a few in one sitting). Another one they added was a 24?oz Tall Boy That Tom Crean's Tanning Bed was telling me about last week.

Let me translate for Ari, ye of developing beer tastes:

1)  Magic Gumball=Three Floyd's Gumballhead.  White ale infused with hops.  Kind of a cross between Lakefront White and an IPA.
2)  The 24 oz. Tall Boy=New Belgium Fat Tire.  Only sold/served out of 22 oz. bottles.  Medium ale, exceptionally smooth. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 21, 2009, 03:45:40 PM
Anyone have any recomendations for Oatmeal Stouts? I'm impartial to Samuel Smith and Goose Island, but I would love to expand my horizons as they say.

For a straight Oatmeal Stout, Breckenridge makes a pretty good one. If you like some coffee and chocolate with your oatmeal, try Founder's Breakfast Stout (one of my favorites).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 21, 2009, 03:50:38 PM
Big fan of anything Bells, including Oberon (sans orange). If you enjoy the milk stouts, you should try Bells Double Cream Stout. Very good beer.

I just recently tried Dogfish Head Indian Brown Ale. Very solid. 

Anyone have any recomendations for Oatmeal Stouts? I'm impartial to Samuel Smith and Goose Island, but I would love to expand my horizons as they say.

I prefer Lake Louie Milk Stout to any other I have tried. :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MilTown on May 21, 2009, 04:05:33 PM
Thanks for the information. Looks like I'm heading to Binny's tonight after work!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 21, 2009, 05:03:07 PM
Let me translate for Ari, ye of developing beer tastes:

1)  Magic Gumball=Three Floyd's Gumballhead.  White ale infused with hops.  Kind of a cross between Lakefront White and an IPA.
2)  The 24 oz. Tall Boy=New Belgium Fat Tire.  Only sold/served out of 22 oz. bottles.  Medium ale, exceptionally smooth. 

Gumball is more of an APA than IPA. More citrus hops than bittering. Hense it is part of the American Pale Wheat Ale class. And it is damn fine beer to drink a lot of.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on May 21, 2009, 05:57:53 PM
Gumball is more of an APA than IPA. More citrus hops than bittering. Hense it is part of the American Pale Wheat Ale class. And it is damn fine beer to drink a lot of.

Thanks for clarifying.  Heard the APA term tossed around before, but couldn't remember it at that particular moment.

And yes, it's one of the finest beers out there without a doubt.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jaybilaswho? on May 21, 2009, 06:37:33 PM
Had what according to the waitress was New Belgium's seasonal wheat, but the name she gave us is not on their website (nor do they claim a seasonal wheat), so I'm not sure what it really was. Either way, it was merely decent.

Was it the Skinny Dip? I had a case, or two, of that last summer. I dont remember if it was their summer or spring seasonal. I think it was the summer. It was good not mind blowing great, but i did like it more than their winter seasonal 2 below.

New Belgium's other beers that are great: Mothership Wit, Blue Paddle and sunset wheat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on May 22, 2009, 08:09:14 AM


New Belgium's other beers that are great: Mothership Wit, Blue Paddle and sunset wheat.


I thought sunset wheat was a Leinenkugel's beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jaybilaswho? on May 22, 2009, 12:17:32 PM
sorry, Sunshine Wheat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on May 22, 2009, 12:36:08 PM
Anyone try any good Hef's lately?  Looking for a good sipper for my back deck this afternoon.

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on May 22, 2009, 12:40:14 PM
Anyone try any good Hef's lately?  Looking for a good sipper for my back deck this afternoon.

Thanks!


New Belgium - Mothership Wit
Yazoo - Hefe

or the classic Belgian treat Hooegaarden.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: drewm88 on May 22, 2009, 01:54:42 PM
Was it the Skinny Dip? I had a case, or two, of that last summer. I dont remember if it was their summer or spring seasonal. I think it was the summer. It was good not mind blowing great, but i did like it more than their winter seasonal 2 below.


I don't believe so. The name the waitress gave us was something with the word Earl in it I believe. I only had a small sample of it, but it was a decent wheat with a strong taste of something unusual that I couldn't identify. Which is probably the most useful beer description ever.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 22, 2009, 02:30:09 PM

New Belgium - Mothership Wit
Yazoo - Hefe

or the classic Belgian treat Hooegaarden.

Hooegaarden is the best.  hands down.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 22, 2009, 02:38:47 PM
Anyone try any good Hef's lately?  Looking for a good sipper for my back deck this afternoon.

Thanks!

New Glarus Dancing Man Wheat. A summer staple of mine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Murffieus on May 25, 2009, 06:55:55 PM
IMO the best beer is from Germany-----my favorite is Spaten Lager. I drink 3 half Liters on tap twice a week at my favorite watering hole!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MilTown on May 26, 2009, 12:11:38 PM
Good call on Spaten Lager. It's a great beer. Best enjoyed with a giant pretzel and sausage platter! I tried a Spaten Optimator at a bar in Chicago over the winter. Very strong and flavorful. If you like double bocks, its worth a try.

MUfan12, good call on the Breckenridge Oatmeal Stout! I really enjoyed it. I didn't try the Founder's Breakfast, but they had it in stock, so I will at some point in the future.

   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Silky on May 26, 2009, 08:24:10 PM
Bud owns them entirely. They have a similar agreement as the Leinenkugel Brewery does with Miller. The only odd one is the Blue Moon Brewing Company that was started by Coors.

Personally all three of the above are pedestrian at best for breweries. They are the entry level micro beers for people who are trying to experiment.

You have all of this wrong.  Leinny's is brewed and owned entirely by Miller and has for like 20 years.  They still brew a little bit in Chippewa Falls. A-B only distributes Goose Island and doesn't brew it, however they have a small ownership in a Craft Alliance group that is invested in Goose.  And there is no Blue Moon Company.  It's just a marketing ploy like Michelob Brewing Company or Plank Road Brewery.  Blue Moon is a Coors creation and brewed by Miller Coors.  Of the 3. Goose Island is the closest to still being a craft. 

Where can you find Magic Hat #9 in Chicago?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MilTown on May 27, 2009, 08:32:13 AM
A nice article on Goose Island for those that are interested:

http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/news.aspx?id=129571
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on May 27, 2009, 11:49:32 AM

I stopped in the Tap Room at the Central Waters Brewery in Amherst, WI this weekend.    A must visit if you are a beerlover and are ever in the area (only open on Fridays and Saturdays though).    The Bourbon Barrel Stout, the Brewhouse Coffee Stout and the Mudpuppy Porter (on Nitro) were outstanding.   Also - the bartender (not sure if he is an owner) was a great host.

Check them out - you can get thier beers at Discount and other places...

http://centralwaters.com/ (http://centralwaters.com/)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MARQKC on May 29, 2009, 02:09:33 AM
When ya'll come to Kansas City in November 2010, be sure to try Boulevard Pale Ale, or any of the other flavors of Boulevard Brewing Co. in Kansas City, http://www.blvdbeer.com. This brewery is only 20 years old but has distinguished itself by growing like a weed and creating some great standards and seasonals.

Best beer in Missouri. Lots better than the stuff spewed out by the Belgian-owned water bottler across the state, http://budweiser.com/.

Indeed, we should have a reception at Boulevard during the 2010 CBE. I'll talk it up amongst the powers that be at the Marquette Club of KC.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on June 02, 2009, 10:23:41 PM
drinking original sin hard cider from Vermont right now. Almost too light. Lighter tast than strongbow with an interesting after taste
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 02, 2009, 10:31:19 PM
drinking original sin hard cider from Vermont right now. Almost too light. Lighter tast than strongbow with an interesting after taste

are you a male admitting to drinking hard cider and actually discussing that sweet stuff in a beer thread?

got back from comet's beer school tonight. 10 different Pilsner beers. Great time had by all. some really interesting Pilsners including one that tasted like bacon.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on June 03, 2009, 09:52:45 AM
Hey Ari, try the new flavor of Zima? 

It's awesome.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on June 03, 2009, 10:09:22 AM
Had the Micelob(sp) wheat last night for the first time, Shocktop I believe it is called.  Was good, not my favorite, but better than others I have tried.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on June 03, 2009, 01:30:41 PM
hey now!

I was down at Sugar Maple in Bay View, tried out a bunch of different beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on June 03, 2009, 01:38:39 PM
hey now!

I was down at Sugar Maple in Bay View, tried out a bunch of different beers.

Sorry a man card has been taken.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 03, 2009, 01:43:52 PM
Sorry a man card has been taken.

Exactly - this is the beer thread. Not knockoff chick beer stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MDMU04 on June 03, 2009, 02:23:33 PM
My favorite is a Belgian Trappist Ale.  It's brewed by Trappist monks at Rochefort Brewery in the Abbey of Notre-Dame de Saint-Rémy in Belgium.

The beer is called Trappistes Rochefort 10.  It'll run you $6 or $7 for an 11 oz bottle, but you will not be disappointed in either taste or potency (11.5% ABV).  If that's a little rich for your blood, the Rochefort 8 is pretty solid.  There's a big fall off in quality once you get to the Rochefort 6 though, stick with the 8 or 10.

Other recommended brews:
Dogfish Head - Indian Brown Ale.
Lagunitas - Brown Shugga'
Lagunitas - Sneak Release Undercover Investigation Shut-Down Ale

Good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on June 03, 2009, 02:40:03 PM
sounds a lot like Chimay.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on June 03, 2009, 02:43:26 PM
Hey Ari, if you made out with 25 chicks in one night, but also kissed a guy, no matter you made out with the girls, because you kissed a guy, it would still make you a little gay.

:)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on June 03, 2009, 02:49:33 PM
sounds a lot like Chimay.


Not a bad beer to be compared to.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on June 03, 2009, 07:16:57 PM
got back from comet's beer school tonight. 10 different Pilsner beers. Great time had by all. some really interesting Pilsners including one that tasted like bacon.

Bacon flavored beer?  Do tell. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 03, 2009, 07:24:22 PM
Bacon flavored beer?  Do tell. 

The beer I had was Aecht Schlenkerla Helles Lagerbier from Germany.

“Schlenkerla Helles” is brewed with fine Bavarian aroma hops from the area around the city of Nürnberg. It's lagered in century old caves underneath the historic Schlenkerla brewery and maltings. Schlenkerla Helles is boiled in the same copper kettles and bottom fermented by the same yeast as the historic Schlenkerla Smokebeer. Its subtle smokiness without using smoke malt makes “Helles Schlenkerla Lager” a unique representative of the classic lager beer style “Bavarian Helles”.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/263/29145
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on June 03, 2009, 07:42:19 PM
oh yeah?

well I'm going to Oktoberfest for my honeymoon!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on June 03, 2009, 09:21:35 PM
Hey Ari, if you made out with 25 chicks in one night, but also kissed a guy, no matter you made out with the girls, because you kissed a guy, it would still make you a little gay.

:)

It'll still 25 more girls than you and no you can't count what you do with your dog and a fistful of peanut butter.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 04, 2009, 08:51:42 AM
It'll still 25 more girls than you and no you can't count what you do with your dog and a fistful of peanut butter.

But you still would have kissed a dude. Trump card. Game over.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LON on June 04, 2009, 03:50:02 PM
It'll still 25 more girls than you and no you can't count what you do with your dog and a fistful of peanut butter.

But what if it's not your dog?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: 77ncaachamps on June 04, 2009, 07:03:23 PM
Since this is the Beer thread...

Anyone want a belt buckle bottle opener?

(http://images.footballfanatics.com/productImages/_289000/altImages/FF_289256ALT1_xl.jpg)

Initially, I thought it was cool...then I imagined myself doing it 5-6 times at a party. Not cool.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on June 11, 2009, 03:00:28 PM
If anyone can find it,I would recommend trying De Koninck.  It is a Belgian Pale ale that is very tasty.  Had to have a buddy ship it from Texas, but it was worth it.

www.dekoninck.be/ 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 11, 2009, 03:06:17 PM
If anyone can find it,I would recommend trying De Koninck.  It is a Belgian Pale ale that is very tasty.  Had to have a buddy ship it from Texas, but it was worth it.

www.dekoninck.be/ 

Had that at Cafe Centraal a few weekends back on the sampler. It was quite tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on June 12, 2009, 08:01:49 AM
Was sampler night yesterday for my poker game...


New Belgium Skinny Dip - Not bad.  Have yet to have a New Belgium product I didn't enjoy.
Hebrew - Very good, similar to New Castle. (If I am remembering New Castle correctly)

Kitzstriker Schwarzbier(sp) - eh, wouldn't recommend it.  Too many over whelming flavors took away from the beer.  But then again maybe that's what Schwarzbier is known for...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on June 12, 2009, 08:18:28 AM
Was sampler night yesterday for my poker game...


New Belgium Skinny Dip - Not bad.  Have yet to have a New Belgium product I didn't enjoy.
Hebrew - Very good, similar to New Castle. (If I am remembering New Castle correctly)

Kitzstriker Schwarzbier(sp) - eh, wouldn't recommend it.  Too many over whelming flavors took away from the beer.  But then again maybe that's what Schwarzbier is known for...

Kostritzer is delicious.  blasphemy!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on June 12, 2009, 08:23:56 AM
I may have just caught a bad bottle, which is always a risk with an import.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 12, 2009, 08:59:43 AM
I may have just caught a bad bottle, which is always a risk with an import.

why drink imports when there are so many fantastic american craft beers. that's my motto. especially bc almost all beer (outside aged cask beers) is best when fresh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on June 12, 2009, 02:33:02 PM
Went to the lakefront debut of Wheat Monkey last night at a few north ave bars.

Decent beer pale ale with a hint of fruit. based off the taste I almost thought they'd be putting an orange in it to start. not that I'm so much for fruit in beer but it seemed like it'd be proper. Overall taste was decent, granted I thought it tasted very close to Sunset. logo is cool as hell.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on June 12, 2009, 02:46:36 PM
why drink imports when there are so many fantastic american craft beers. that's my motto. especially bc almost all beer (outside aged cask beers) is best when fresh.

fresh ingredients make better beer.  shipping ingredients over to the US from bavaria or where ever means they aren't as fresh.

limiting yourself to only american made beers is... restrictive, at best.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 19, 2009, 03:38:23 PM
Just heard through the Interwebs that Three Floyds will begin (again) distributing six packs in Wisconsin (Milwaukee I know of) beginning in September. Alpha King and Gumball Head are the two they will start with. Giddy up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on June 22, 2009, 08:30:55 AM

Discount was fully stocked with Three Floyds this past weekend.

Also - had a Alpha King Dreadnaught on tap at Romans this past week - outstanding!   probably my favorite hoppy ale of all time...



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 22, 2009, 09:23:31 AM
Discount was fully stocked with Three Floyds this past weekend.

Just bombers or six packs? And the woman who does the beer buying for discount is a really great resource. She has recommended many a great beer to me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on June 22, 2009, 11:26:44 AM
Had a few new ones recently-

Tyranena's Rocky's Revenge- A Brown ale part aged in bourbon barrels. A really nice subtle bourbon finish, pretty dry with a little bit of sweetness. Interesting take on a nut brown ale.

New Glarus Black Wheat- This one pours like a stout, and has some stoutish characteristics with roasted malt and burnt grain flavors, yet still has the banana/clove of a traditional wheat. Pretty complex beer, another good New Glarus offering.

Lakefront Wheat Monkey- Let me preface this by saying Lakefront doesn't really have a beer I seek out. Occasionally I'll be in the mood for a Riverwest or Eastside Dark, but nothing I keep in the fridge at all times.

Hazy, golden color. Very light, drinkable beer. Has the fruitiness of an Oberon, but has a bread-like finish. I have a feeling I'll be drinking a lot of it this summer. They did a great job with this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on June 22, 2009, 12:16:55 PM
only saw the bombers, didn't look for 6 packs...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on July 01, 2009, 04:29:39 PM
just found this thread on one of my favorite subjects...

anything from Founders in MI, especially Double Trouble (DIPA), Old Carmudgeon and if you ever see it-buy everyone: KBS, one of the top rated beers on beeradvocate

many of the New Glarus Unplugged beers are top notch, I have a case of the Iced Barleywine in my basement and am compiling another case of the Imperial Saison; last years Bourbon Barrel Bock was also incredible

I agree that Goose Island Bourbon County Stout is very tasty

Central Waters Paradise by the Dashboard Lights is also very good IMO ( a cherry double porter)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on July 03, 2009, 02:36:25 PM
I know this is a beer discussion but I have to bring up Summer Shandy.  I had it for the 1st time last night.  What the F*** is that supposed to be, because it sure isn't beer?  It tasted like someone poured tang in a blue moon. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on July 03, 2009, 02:41:58 PM
I had a Fat Tire Amber on tap last night here in Seattle, good lord was that bad.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: pillardean on July 03, 2009, 03:21:50 PM
I know this is a beer discussion but I have to bring up Summer Shandy.  I had it for the 1st time last night.  What the F*** is that supposed to be, because it sure isn't beer?  It tasted like someone poured tang in a blue moon. 

It's what you buy girls that don't like beer but want to be tough and drink beer rather than mixed drinks.  Tastes like a lemon drop or something.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: muwarrior87 on July 05, 2009, 11:19:03 PM
I had a Fat Tire Amber on tap last night here in Seattle, good lord was that bad.

BLASPHEMY!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on July 05, 2009, 11:37:30 PM
Had a few recently I haven't had yet.

-Capital Brewery Wild Rice: The Summer Seasonal, the fine folks at the Brewery in Middleton raved about this one, so I picked up a 6 pack of it. Very drinkable, flavorful summer beer. Subtly sweet with a malty flavor. Mildly bitter, but well balanced. Definitely in my summer rotation.

-Sierra Nevada Summerfest Lager- Good crisp summer lager, very refreshing actually. Light, malty with some spice from the hops. Had a few while grilling on the 4th.

-Founders Red Rye Ale- Whoever recommended Founders earlier is spot on. This is one of the better beers I've had, period. Pours a dark, reddish amber with a good  head that stays with the beer. Has a malty and nutty flavor, which plays with some citrus notes. Finishes with some spice and bitterness from the rye. Just a tremendously complex and balanced beer. I'm going to have to check out more of their offerings.

-New Glarus Imperial Saison- Part of their unplugged series, and a style I've never had before. Pours a hazy copper color with a strong head. The flavors are really interesting. It has a strong citrus flavor, and I get some orange, apricot, and peach. It's definitely got a tartness to it, as well as a little bit of spice. It was almost like a lambic. One I'm glad I tried, but wasn't quite my style I think.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: muwarrior87 on July 05, 2009, 11:43:04 PM
I was actually looking for something for this coming weekend as I'm throwing a little shindig and wanted something summery to have available. Might have to grab some Wild Rice as I was actually just looking into that.  Great post timing MUfan12.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on July 15, 2009, 12:51:33 PM
Was up in Seattle this past weekend and had a couple great IPA's. Mack n Jack's was great - a little more bitter than fav's but damn tastey. Then I had Manny's. This beer freaking rocks. Bitter, citrusy, big huge hops - it was awesome. Also went to Pikes Brewery and Pyramid and they good. Pyramid Thunderhead is a pretty good IPA. The Hefe was weak in taste and reminded me of Miller Lite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on July 15, 2009, 01:06:49 PM
The Hefe was weak in taste and reminded me of Miller Lite.


I second this, as Pyramid's Hefe is one of my least favorites.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SoCalwarrior on July 15, 2009, 02:07:43 PM
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on July 16, 2009, 07:08:34 PM


Interesting list of high octane beers that I stumbled upon....

http://www.mybadpad.com/fun-stuff/55-beers-that-will-knock-you-flat-on-your-ass
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GGGG on July 17, 2009, 07:40:11 AM
I had Central Water's Mudpuppy Porter on tap last weekend.

Very, very good stuff.  Highly recommended!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on July 29, 2009, 11:53:03 PM
Let's bring this bad boy back! First, for the folks in Milwaukee some news. New Belgium will be making more varities available in August, as well as Fat Tire in 6 packs.

Also toured the new brewery in New Glarus a couple weeks back. The place is unreal. They don't have guided tours, but you're able to walk around and sample after. The facility is beautiful, especially the landscaping outside of it.

Had a couple new beers this week as well.

Tyranena Three Beaches Honey Blonde- Nice, refreshing Summer beer. Pours a golden color with a thin head, has a good amount of carbonation. Strong honey aroma, but the sweetness is countered by the hops coming through. Pretty easy to drink. I'm going to check out their brewery in Lake Mills one of these days.

Anderson Valley Summer Solstice- Picked up a six pack on a recommendation. It's definitely not what you'd think of in a summer beer. It's a dark copper colored cream ale, very malty with some vanilla and subtle spice notes. Almost a cream soda aftertaste. So, so smooth. A really good beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on July 31, 2009, 04:50:10 PM
ok ok, I'll admit it... usually when people hype beer up and I have it, I find it to be pretty mediocre...

but this Three Floyd's Dreadnaught is pretty damn good.

so... thanks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on August 01, 2009, 07:59:12 AM
ok ok, I'll admit it... usually when people hype beer up and I have it, I find it to be pretty mediocre...

but this Three Floyd's Dreadnaught is pretty damn good.

so... thanks.

Three Floyds is one of the top breweries in America - especially if you like hops. And since you Dreadnaught - you obviously do. Even living in WI where they are not fully distributed, I still find my fridge with at min 2 different Three Floyds at all times. You need try Alpha King and Gumball Head. I am also a huge fan of the Scotch Ale called Robert The Bruce. You really can't go wrong with any of their beers. Thank the lord six packs are rumored to show in September.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on August 02, 2009, 09:55:49 PM
love Dreadnaught - it's up to $9.99 a bottle at Discount, the wife sees this and ups her wine budget accordingly....

on tap at Roman's for a very short time - i was in heaven...

has anyone tried Three Floyd's Oatgoop?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on August 03, 2009, 10:22:36 PM
Had Three Floyds Omeganaught this past weekend. It was pretty good. Straight hopwater - no malt backing - which is fine by me. A little watery in texture but not a bad beer for breakfast - which is when I had it instead of OJ with my coffee.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mu-rara on August 04, 2009, 09:36:54 AM
I was in Central PA visiting friends......

Straub Beer brewed in St. Mary's PA.  Nothing fancy, just a great lager beer.   Took a brewery tour with the CEO.....4 minutes.   The Eternal Tap at the end of the tour is priceless.  Only distributed in PA and NE Ohio.  I brought 2 cases home. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on August 10, 2009, 02:16:18 PM
I tried the Founder's Devil Dancer, labeled a triple IPA. This was afantastic beer although also not cheap, $18.99 for a 4 pack. I'm sure it's not cheap to make either, there's got to be alot of malt and hops in these.

Also tried the Tyranena (Brewer's gone wild series) Bitter woman in the Rye during a tour of the brewery, another very good beer I heartily recommend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MilTown on August 10, 2009, 02:29:49 PM
Speaking of Tyranena, I tried a Tyranea Scurvy at a recent beer festival and had a few on tap at a bar. Very enjoyable. It's an IPA brewed with orange peel. The orange adds great flavor but isn't overpowering. A very nice brew. And there is no need to fruit the beer!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on August 10, 2009, 03:01:26 PM
Props to whoever recommended Central Waters Muddpuppy Porter.

Had it at a bar last week and really enjoyed it. I'm not a huge Porter fan but really liked it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: muhoosier260 on August 10, 2009, 10:15:57 PM
For the Three Floyds enthusiasts here, you haven't lived until you've had dark lord. 13% alcohol. You'll have to travel to Indiana to get it, it is only sold at the brewery and sells out in a day or two i believe. Wonderful beer though
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on August 10, 2009, 10:56:05 PM
For the Three Floyds enthusiasts here, you haven't lived until you've had dark lord. 13% alcohol. You'll have to travel to Indiana to get it, it is only sold at the brewery and sells out in a day or two i believe. Wonderful beer though

you need tickets to get it at the Dark Lord Day festival and you can then get 2 cases of 20oz bombers. I had to turn down tickets this year. It is a Russian Imperial Stout. It has been called one of the worlds greatest beers and people travel the nation to go.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MilTown on August 11, 2009, 09:28:42 AM
I haven't tried the Dark Lord yet, mainly because I refuse to waste a whole day in Munster Indiana and will not pay $20 a bottle on ebay.

I'm sure the beer is fantastic, but is it worth all the hoops you have to jump through to get it? I know Dark Lord Day is overflowing with people every year, so that says something right there.

I just think you can walk into Sam's Wines or Binny's in Chicago and get a number of high quality Imperial Stouts that rival Dark Lord. Convenience is key for me.

As I said above, I haven't tried Dark Lord and maybe that is my problem. I guess I might have a different opinion if I did. So, want to share a bottle with me? Ha ha.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on August 11, 2009, 10:31:59 AM
Dark Lord is for true beer geeks who make it their hobby so jumping through hoops is not an issue. It is almost like mini beer festival where everyone brings beers to share and try while waiting in line. It's not for everyone, but for some it will be. One day of drinking all day still is a good day in my mind.

A friend of mine has a few bottles at his restaurant that I need to get down to and hopefully try.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MilTown on August 11, 2009, 03:51:38 PM
I'm hoping to get lucky and and run across some Dark Lord one of these days. Until then, its Bourbon County Stout, or Founders Breakfast Stout when I need a giant imperial fix. 

Any other imperial stout suggestions?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 11, 2009, 08:56:03 PM
sprecher's specialty fire brewed Russian Imperial isn't too bad...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on August 20, 2009, 12:21:11 PM
I have to say that mostly because of this thread, Three Floyds became a "must try" on my list.  Even drove a decent bit out of my way to pick up some bottles.  Got a bomber of the Dreadnaught and of the Blackheart Ale.  (I can't tell you how disappointed I was that there was no Gumballhead.)  Both were fantastic.

Plus, much to my delight, last weekend I found out that my local Whole Foods is now stocking six-packs of Alpha King (and one other variety). 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on August 20, 2009, 01:06:29 PM
I have to say that mostly because of this thread, Three Floyds became a "must try" on my list.  Even drove a decent bit out of my way to pick up some bottles.  Got a bomber of the Dreadnaught and of the Blackheart Ale.  (I can't tell you how disappointed I was that there was no Gumballhead.)  Both were fantastic.

Plus, much to my delight, last weekend I found out that my local Whole Foods is now stocking six-packs of Alpha King (and one other variety). 

I try and pick up a case of Gumball Head every time I in Chicago. It is hard to find outside of Chicago or Indiana bc it is not distributed very far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on August 21, 2009, 01:34:26 AM
Picked up some Alpha King and Pride and Joy today. Had a Gumballhead on tap at lunch.

Beer and DWade, all the reason I need to go to Chicago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on August 21, 2009, 07:27:14 AM
I try and pick up a case of Gumball Head every time I in Chicago. It is hard to find outside of Chicago or Indiana bc it is not distributed very far.

FYI, if you are in Wisconsin still, Three Floyds getting distribution in WI starting in September I believe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on August 21, 2009, 08:33:47 AM
FYI, if you are in Wisconsin still, Three Floyds getting distribution in WI starting in September I believe.

That is the rumor - and has been for a few years now - but six packs of Alpha King and probably Pride and Joy are supposed to show up mid September.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on August 21, 2009, 11:06:09 AM
a friend / beer enthusiast is having a party tomorrow - he sent the beer list out in advance, it will be like a kid in a candy store, I claimed dibs on all the Dreadnaught ahead of time

Old Rasputin - Russian Imperial Stout
Stone - Smoked Porter
Stone - Arrogant Bastard
Moylan's - Scotch Style Ale
Moylan's - Hopsickle Imperial Ale
Three Floyd's - Dreagnaught
Three Floyd's - Black Sun Stout
Meantime - India Pale Ale
Lagunitas - Hop Stoopid Ale
Steamworks - Ale Diablo
Farmhouse - Robust Porter
Southern Tier - Uber Sun
New Belgium - Fat Tire
Ommegang - Abbey Ale
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on August 21, 2009, 12:18:41 PM
a buddy of mine and i split a bomber of the Stone - Smoked Porter on the recommendation of another friends from HS & MU. My buddies reaction "tastes like a sweat sock the has soaked up chew spit". It is interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on August 25, 2009, 01:41:57 PM
I'm hoping to get lucky and and run across some Dark Lord one of these days. Until then, its Bourbon County Stout, or Founders Breakfast Stout when I need a giant imperial fix. 

Any other imperial stout suggestions?

If you like Founder's Breakfast Stout, try and get ahold of their KBS (Kentucky Breakfast Stout), the BS aged in oak bourbon barrels.

It's only out around February and sells out quick. Discount Liquor put a limit of maximum of 4 bottles per person, although I still ended up with a case somehow  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on August 31, 2009, 02:14:24 PM
Had a New Belgium 1554 last weekend, and was very impressed.  I am not sure if I can get it anywhere locally on tap, but was quite tasty out of the bottle.  The "chocolate finish" as they describe was noticeable, but not overpowering.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 31, 2009, 03:35:29 PM
Had a New Belgium 1554 last weekend, and was very impressed.  I am not sure if I can get it anywhere locally on tap, but was quite tasty out of the bottle.  The "chocolate finish" as they describe was noticeable, but not overpowering.



honestly, its garbage.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on August 31, 2009, 03:49:51 PM
honestly, its garbage.

Can you recommend a similar style beer for me to compare?  It could be garbage, but never having a "belgian black ale", I have no basis for comparison.  I did question the "belgian black ale" statement since I lived in Belgium, and had not seen another beer called a black ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on August 31, 2009, 03:53:07 PM
I quite liked the 1554 when I had it. Also had New Belgium's Blue Paddle Pilsner this weekend, thought it was pretty good for a domestic Pilsner. Haven't had a bad beer from them yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 01, 2009, 08:23:34 AM
black wheat from new glarus is much better.

I just don't think that the fat tire brewery stuff is all that great.

its all hype... put it by other beers on sheer taste and I think it is pretty clear.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on September 02, 2009, 06:44:18 PM
Hards - you're really beating this anti-New Belgium drum hard.

I know you didn't like 1554, but to compare it to a black wheat is unfair.  They are two different styles.

Fat tire (the beer) is crap if you ask me.  But you shouldn't write off New Belgium so fast.  Stop by their brewery in Ft. Collins, try all their beers in the tasting room (free! no liquor license), and talk with the brewers.  If you still think it's all crap macro-brew hiding behind a micro-brew name, I'll leave you alone.  But just trying 1 or 2 of their beers and calling it all crap is painting with a pretty wide brush.

Yes other breweries have some better options, but most of new belgiums stuff is very drinkable, without too many defects (unless you drink fat tire out of a bottle - blech).  That's better than I can say for a lot of micro brewers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on September 02, 2009, 06:56:36 PM
Now back to the beer reviews, tried a Belgica from Great Divide last week.

Described as a Belgian IPA, it certainly had plenty of alcohol content, but I can't say I enjoyed the taste of the hops and spices together.  First Belgian IPA I've tried, but based on my experience, I'll probably limit further attempts at this category to a single bottle (mix & match) before jumping into a whole 6-pack commitment.

I wouldn't say it's a bad beer, just not my style.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: drewm88 on September 02, 2009, 08:51:15 PM
Had some Massachusetts beer lately and was impressed.
Offshore Brewery is from Martha's Vineyard. Their Amber Ale was quite good.
Also had 3 from Harpoon Brewery out of Boston- the IPA, UFO (Unfiltered Offering) Hefeweizen, and UFO White. All were very good.

I don't think any of these are available outside of New England, but Harpoon's easy to find out there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on September 02, 2009, 10:47:16 PM
Had a few newbies after a trip to Sugar Maple and the Sprecher Brewery.

Rogue Juniper Pale Ale- Earthy hops, with a bright citrus flavor complimented by the Juniper berries. Definitely an interesting take on a Pale Ale. Pretty light color, dry in taste, overall a nice beer. I'd drink it again, but it doesn't stack up to an Alpha King IMO.

Sprecher Generation Porter- I had to try this one when I built my 4 pack at the brewery. Brewed with cocoa, caramel malts, and raspberry extract. At first sip, was not a fan. The beer got exponentially better as it warmed. Not one I'd drink at a bar, but for a dessert beer it's top notch. Smooth, sweet, and very drinkable.

Also had the Sprecher Oktoberfest. Solid Octoberfest offering, perhaps a bit heavy on the sweetness, especially on the finish. My first foray into this season's fall offerings. Looking forward to sampling some more at Blatz Liquor tomorrow (1121 N. Broadway).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 03, 2009, 08:06:38 AM
Hards - you're really beating this anti-New Belgium drum hard.

I know you didn't like 1554, but to compare it to a black wheat is unfair.  They are two different styles.

Fat tire (the beer) is crap if you ask me.  But you shouldn't write off New Belgium so fast.  Stop by their brewery in Ft. Collins, try all their beers in the tasting room (free! no liquor license), and talk with the brewers.  If you still think it's all crap macro-brew hiding behind a micro-brew name, I'll leave you alone.  But just trying 1 or 2 of their beers and calling it all crap is painting with a pretty wide brush.

Yes other breweries have some better options, but most of new belgiums stuff is very drinkable, without too many defects (unless you drink fat tire out of a bottle - blech).  That's better than I can say for a lot of micro brewers.

I realize they aren't the same style.

I have had Fat Tire, Mothership Whit, and 1554.  I found the Mothership to be the most drinkable of the 3.

The reason I call it crap is because it gets far too much hype for what it really is; mediocre beer.

I don't plan to make a trip all the way out to Fort Collins, CO to taste some mediocre beer when I can just go down the street here in Madison and have some mediocre Crapital Brewery beer.   ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on September 03, 2009, 08:08:20 AM
black wheat from new glarus is much better.


But is it available outside of Wisconsin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 03, 2009, 08:21:09 AM
But is it available outside of Wisconsin.

being from Wisconsin, I am not sure :)

you can easily find out yourself though!!!

http://www.newglarusbrewing.com/BeerFinder.cfm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on September 03, 2009, 08:28:53 AM
I must confess I had already checked out the website and discovered it is only available in Wisconsin.

I guess I will have to wait until my next visit to the MKE. 


Also, the Andrew Zimmerman clip where he is at the Old German Beerhall... Is this a new place?  I can't believe I was in Milwaukee for 4.5 years and had never seen or heard of this place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on September 08, 2009, 09:24:16 AM
I have been told that 1554 is similar to Shiner Black.

Can anyone confirm or deny this before I buy a 6 pack and decide for myself.

FWIW
The gentleman working at the beer store also scoffed at the notion that 1554 has anything to do with Belgium.  He actually seemed put off by the fact that New Belgium makes the connection on the 1554 label.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: T-Bone on September 08, 2009, 10:20:39 AM
Duchesse de Bourgogne

Ridiculous. 

Smells initially like PAAS easter egg coloring tablets.  Strong vinegar aroma. 
Taste is crisp, sweet-balsamic, but smooth with a fine carbonation. 

I have had it twice.  It was better from a bottle.  On tap, it looses some of the effervescence and crispness.

Great with fatty meats - pork especially.  The acidity cuts through the fat nicely.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GGGG on September 08, 2009, 10:39:48 AM
I would be remiss if I didn't put in another plug for one of my new favorite microbreweries - Central Waters out of Amherst, WI.  I had a number of their porters over the weekend, as well as their Pale Ale.  Very good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: bma725 on September 08, 2009, 11:51:42 AM
Also, the Andrew Zimmerman clip where he is at the Old German Beerhall... Is this a new place?  I can't believe I was in Milwaukee for 4.5 years and had never seen or heard of this place.

It opened in late 2005.  Prior to that it was Guse's City Hall. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on September 09, 2009, 12:32:06 PM
Duchesse de Bourgogne -  a Flemish Red Ale (aka Sour Ale)  - a very unique beer but very drinkable,  had a similar beer this weekend  - Monk's Cafe, very tasty....

Romans has Duchesse on tap all the time...

If one gets past the distinct smell, people usually like it...

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on September 14, 2009, 11:20:09 PM
Has anyone had New Belgium's Hoptober? Saw it at the grocery store tonight, was going to ask for a review first...


And I know you don't like it Hards.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 15, 2009, 09:02:30 AM
Has anyone had New Belgium's Hoptober? Saw it at the grocery store tonight, was going to ask for a review first...


And I know you don't like it Hards.  ;)

I haven't had it... I didn't say all their beer was crap, The Mothership Wit is actually pretty decent.  I just think they are totally overrated as a brewery, and the 1554 is not as good as everyone thinks.

that said, This weekend, I attended the Thirsty Troll Brew Fest in Mount Horeb, WI.  There were 30 breweries in attendance... mostly beer I have tried before... but a few notables were:

Magic Hat Brewery (VT)
Magic Hat had a Saki Lager... It was VERY strange, but not too bad... maybe a little vinegary.

Grumpy Troll (WI) the host brewery out of Mt. Horeb
The Grumpy Troll had my favorite beer of the competition and got my vote.  The beer was a jalapeno beer which I had never had before.  It had the aroma and flavor of jalapenos without any of the spice... strange indeed, but delightful.  Unfortunately, The Grumpy Troll doesn't bottle their beer, so the only way to try it is to haul all the way down to Mt. Horeb for a taste.  Also had a beer called Erik the Red... which was also fantastic.

other attending breweries were Flying Dog, Ale Asylum, Great Dane, Oso? (ran out, lots of people LOVED their beer), New Glarus, Esser's, etc etc... I'm sure the names are on the website.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on September 15, 2009, 09:11:04 AM
Just giving you a hard time.  I also enjoy the Mothership Wit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on September 15, 2009, 09:37:54 AM
Mostly thanks to this thread, I've been inspired to drink better beer.  I started with a run on anything sold by Three Floyds at local establishments, and have then branched out.  Usually, my beer request is for either "something new and/or preferably local".

From Three Floyds - everything from Three Floyds has been delicious.  Really, really good beer.

Dreadnaught
Blackheart Ale
Gumball head
Alpha King
Rabid Rabbit Saison Ale - Evidently, one of the items they include while brewing are pop rocks.
Barley Wine - This comes with a wax covering.  I thought the first taste was repulsive.  The second taste was much better.  Halfway through I found it delicious.  Weird experience.

London Pride English Pale Ale - I have a friend from England that talks this beer up.  It was okay, but I had it the same weekend as the Blackheart English Pale Ale and it didn't compare.

Goose Island Naughty Goose Brown Ale - For a brown ale, I wasn't expecting this beer to be as dark as it was.  It was pretty good after I got over the surprise.

Bells Two-Hearted Ale - I couldn't stop drinking this beer.  It was so good. 

Great Lakes Burning River - Evidently, this beer has won a few gold medals.  It was smooth and potent, but not as hoppy as the Two-Hearted Ale.  It's the kind of beer one could easily drink a six-pack of without even realizing it.  I don't know if that's a compliment or not.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mupbp09 on September 17, 2009, 05:57:52 PM
For some really good beer one should look to the Pacific Northwest and more specifically Oregon.  There is a brewery in Bend, OR called "Deschutes Brewery".  Their most popular beer is the Mirror Pond Pale Ale.  You can order it online at bottletrek.com.

More locally - Lakefront Brewery's IPA is amazing!!!

YAY BEER!!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on September 19, 2009, 04:01:17 PM
For some really good beer one should look to the Pacific Northwest and more specifically Oregon.  There is a brewery in Bend, OR called "Deschutes Brewery".  Their most popular beer is the Mirror Pond Pale Ale.  You can order it online at bottletrek.com.

Deschutes does make some good stuff.  I guess I'm lucky it's sold locally here in CO. 

Also, a reminder, the Great American Beer Fest will be in Denver this coming weekend (starting Thursday).  2100 beers in one convention hall can't be beat!
http://www.greatamericanbeerfestival.com/
So, if you're not busy next weekend, and are up for a trip to CO, it's at least a once-in-a-lifetime must for any beer lover.  Tickets are sold out, but I'm sure you can scrounge some up.  Unfortunately I'm traveling out of the country next weekend, otherwise I would have made plans to go too  :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on September 21, 2009, 11:03:48 PM
I have to sing the praises of New Glarus Staghorn Oktoberfest. It's absolutely fantastic. Smooth, malty, without being overly sweet. I'm not a huge Oktoberfest guy, but I could drink this one all day. Definitely recommend it!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on September 25, 2009, 08:49:59 PM
Wife wanted to hit a good fish fry tonight - we went to Nite Cap in Palmyra (excellent fish fry) and the bonus - Central Waters Mud Puppy Porter on tap.    Rare a little hole in the wall place has a beer this good....

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on September 25, 2009, 08:54:28 PM
just saw this - http://coedmagazine.com/2009/09/25/7-beers-to-try-before-you-die/ (http://coedmagazine.com/2009/09/25/7-beers-to-try-before-you-die/)

Of the 7 - Founders Breakfast Stout, great beer

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on September 29, 2009, 01:55:38 PM
just saw this - http://coedmagazine.com/2009/09/25/7-beers-to-try-before-you-die/ (http://coedmagazine.com/2009/09/25/7-beers-to-try-before-you-die/)

Of the 7 - Founders Breakfast Stout, great beer



that's kind of funny to me because Founders makes an even better version of that same beer, the Kentucky Breakfast Stout or shortened to just KBS in 2009
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on September 29, 2009, 03:10:14 PM
Founders is my local beer.   Made about 10 minutes from my house.    They really don't make a bad one.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on September 30, 2009, 09:18:11 PM
Tried some new ones recently. First, I toured the Schlafly Brewery in St. Louis this weekend. They make a bunch of different styles, and their beers were pretty solid on the whole. Really enjoyed the Oatmeal Stout and their APA. The one complaint I had is they definitely took some liberties with classifying their beers. For instance, their Hefeweizen was a 4%, and lacked much of the spice and depth of a traditional hef. Their Saison was more of a Belgian Double than a Saison, had very little fruit notes to it.

Also had Hop Hazard from Riverhorse Brewery in NJ. It's a dry-hopped APA, pours a cloudy amber with a fluffy head. Light citrus notes, more of a toasted malt taste. Nicely bittered with light caramel notes. I enjoyed it, the hopheads on here would probably want more hops.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on October 01, 2009, 07:32:20 PM
On the way for Sushi tonight, stopped into the Wine Cellar in Elm Grove (on Bluemound).  They have added a very nice beer section.   The finds...

Alpha King in 6 packs (guess they started shipping in Wis 2 weeks ago)

and

Central Waters - all 6 packs for 6.49 - I went with the Mud Puppy Porter and the Imperial Stout....

nice place, nice owners...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on October 02, 2009, 10:18:42 AM
On the way for Sushi tonight, stopped into the Wine Cellar in Elm Grove (on Bluemound).  They have added a very nice beer section.   The finds...

Alpha King in 6 packs (guess they started shipping in Wis 2 weeks ago)

and

Central Waters - all 6 packs for 6.49 - I went with the Mud Puppy Porter and the Imperial Stout....

nice place, nice owners...

Alpha King and Gumball Head 6pk's are both now distributed in SE Wisconsin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: yellow chickens on October 03, 2009, 02:24:19 PM
So i went and picked up some Gumballhead due to some of the posts on this board... and i hated it. First of all, i really don't like any wheat beers, they are much to sweet i think, and this one was no better. I was super sweet and citrus-y, with an almost sour-mango aftertaste... not what i want in a beer.

all of my roommates agree this tastes pretty terrible. as far as wheat beers go, i would ever prefer a new glarus crack'd wheat to this. give me a spotted cow/high life/banquet beer over Gumballhead any day
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on October 04, 2009, 10:07:29 PM
Picked up Capital Brewery's Autumnal Fire this weekend. For a chilly fall night, it is the perfect beer. A little spice, heavy malt presence, with a sweet finish. They took an Oktoberfest, put it on steroids, and made it bock strength. At roughly 7.5% its got something behind it. Really wonderful stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on October 05, 2009, 06:00:34 AM
So i went and picked up some Gumballhead due to some of the posts on this board... and i hated it. First of all, i really don't like any wheat beers, they are much to sweet i think, and this one was no better. I was super sweet and citrus-y, with an almost sour-mango aftertaste... not what i want in a beer.

all of my roommates agree this tastes pretty terrible. as far as wheat beers go, i would ever prefer a new glarus crack'd wheat to this. give me a spotted cow/high life/banquet beer over Gumballhead any day

That is because Gumball Head is an American PALE Wheat Ale and it has a ton of hops in it. It is pretty much a wheat base beer that is then turned into am American Pale Ale. So, am I guessing you are not a big hop fan either. And with Gumball you need like hops as that is what those little chunks were floating in the glass - hops.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on October 05, 2009, 09:58:22 AM
I found Lakefront's Wheat Monkey this weekend, and I'm generally a big fan of American Wheats, but Wheat Monkey didn't quite do it for me. I haven't found the Gumball Head yet, but I'm a big fan of Goose's 312 and Sam Adams' Summer Ale. The Lakefront effort just seemed too heavy, and the trademark Lakefront taste did not translate well into a Wheat.

Anyone know where to get Gumball Head around Kenosha/Far Northern Illinois?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on October 05, 2009, 10:00:16 AM
Anyone try the new Bud Light Wheat yet?  I am guessing it is so-so, but that is simply based on 75% of their product line falling into that category.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on October 05, 2009, 10:15:42 AM
Founders Breakfast Stout was delicious.  DELICIOUS!  This weekend I was really, really disappointed that it wasn't in stock at the grocery store.

Have also tried the Southern Tier Pumking Beer.  It has been my favorite pumpkin beer so far, enough to go back for seconds (after realizing there was no Breakfast Stout dammit).  However, I saw that Dogfish Head has a pumpkin ale out now.  Hooray October!

A few weeks ago I was back in Milwaukee.  Had a bomber of Lakefront's Bridge Burner.  It was pretty tasty (I liked it more than Riverwest Stein), and a fun excuse to dig into a little bit of MKE history.

Also tried a beer from a brewery in the third ward (I think).  Buffalo Water Brewery's Autumn Beer.  This brewery is so small they didn't even make a new label for their autumn beer.  They just put a small yellow sticker on the top that said "Autumn".  It was /okay/. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on October 09, 2009, 09:40:13 AM
Founders Breakfast Stout was delicious.  DELICIOUS! 

Eagerly awaiting my first taste of this beer.  Had to pull some strings to get it to TN, but will be arriving next week along with some 3 floyds.  I really they are both as good as this thread has built them up to be...


On a cheap note, I got a 6 pack of Black Toad dark ale from trader joes last week.  It tastes a lot like 1554, only a fraction of the price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on October 13, 2009, 08:57:44 AM
Eagerly awaiting my first taste of this beer.  Had to pull some strings to get it to TN, but will be arriving next week along with some 3 floyds.  I really they are both as good as this thread has built them up to be...


On a cheap note, I got a 6 pack of Black Toad dark ale from trader joes last week.  It tastes a lot like 1554, only a fraction of the price.

get some Kolstritzer.  Its schwarzbier (black beer) from Germany, and about 100x better than the 1554 crap. :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: muphan on October 13, 2009, 01:06:50 PM
There is a really good beer out the west called fat tire. I am not sure if this has been posted yet but it is worth trying out if your looking for a good new beer. Also bells brewrey out of michigan makes some pretty solid beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: drewm88 on October 13, 2009, 01:17:33 PM
Recently had a bottle of Sweet George's Brown Ale from Dillon Dam Brewery in CO. Quite good. Nice and creamy with a decent amount of hops and a nice, full flavor without getting too heavy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on October 13, 2009, 03:58:28 PM
There is a really good beer out the west called fat tire. I am not sure if this has been posted yet but it is worth trying out if your looking for a good new beer.

Never heard of it.  Hards, you ever had Fat Tire beer?  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 13, 2009, 04:02:23 PM
Never heard of it.  Hards, you ever had Fat Tire beer?  ;)

Too funny.  muphan - thanks for the input, but Fat Tire, and New Belgium beers in general have been discussed a lot in this thread.  It's a long thread, but worth the read if you like beer!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on October 13, 2009, 07:13:56 PM
I need to try out that Fat Tire sometime.....   

nah, just had an Alpha King to wash down a great Ribeye.  IMHO, best of the hoppy ales - just slightly ahead of Bells Two Hearted Ale.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on October 13, 2009, 07:24:17 PM
too good... too good
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on October 13, 2009, 10:13:28 PM
I'm out in San Diego for work.  Little known fact... San Diego is one of the great American spots for beer.  Despite being a big believer in drinking local, SD has the goods when it comes to good beer.

Last night - had a Stone Ruination IPA.  waaaaayyyyy hoppy.  Probably the most hoppy beer I've had.  Ever.  It took some serious getting used to, and might have been too much for me.

Tonight - went to Pizza Port (winner of the 2009 Great American Beer Festival Large BrewPub of the year).  Had a wet hop IPA and their Swami's IPA.  Their wet hop was /okay/, but the Swami's IPA was delicious.  The pizza wasn't bad either.  Also picked up some Red Barn Ale from The Lost Abbey, which is also by Port Brewing Company.  It's a summer-Ale with spices.

Despite recommendations from friends, there was no Pliny the Elder to be had, though.  it was all sold out at the local pubs and there was none at BevMo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on October 13, 2009, 10:26:33 PM
I'm out in San Diego for work.  Little known fact... San Diego is one of the great American spots for beer.  Despite being a big believer in drinking local, SD has the goods when it comes to good beer.

It's not the little of a fact, Men's Journal just voted San Diego America's Best Beer Town.  :P http://www.mensjournal.com/top-five-beer-towns (http://www.mensjournal.com/top-five-beer-towns)

Though I still think Portland is the tops, it does have some good places.

Was the Ruination hoppier than say Hopslam by Bell's?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on October 13, 2009, 10:45:36 PM
It's not the little of a fact, Men's Journal just voted San Diego America's Best Beer Town.  :P http://www.mensjournal.com/top-five-beer-towns (http://www.mensjournal.com/top-five-beer-towns)

Though I still think Portland is the tops, it does have some good places.

Was the Ruination hoppier than say Hopslam by Bell's?

I've had the Ruination, I don't think it's hoppier than Hopslam. Damn good IPA though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on October 13, 2009, 11:03:12 PM
okay.... well known fact.  San Diego has good beer and lots of it.  Stone is fairly well available even back in the Midwest.  I guess that my only two gripes are:
*It's better to drink local
*They didn't have squat for seasonals, considering the temperature is always 72 degrees.  Where's the pumpkin beer, the harvest beer, the oktoberfest?

I've not had the Hopslam yet so no comparison.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 13, 2009, 11:24:19 PM
There are really people in this thread that haven't had Ruination and/or Arrogant Bastard?  Those are a couple staples for me from Stone.  I guess I'm lucky their bombers are sold all over the place here.  Mighty fine brews if you like things over the top.

Funny you mention Pliny the Elder.  My town just had a new brew-pub open.  It's actually owned by Oskar Blues, but they have 43 taps, including about 30+ guest taps.  Pliny the Elder was one of them, and it was an amazingly smooth drinking double IPA, despite some worthy hops, and high alcohol content.

Of course, I should note that I drank a Gordon double IPA first (8.7% ABV, 85 IBU), so following it with the 'Elder (8% ABV, 100 IBU) wasn't exactly a shock to my taste buds.   Both are excellent brews, IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on October 14, 2009, 10:57:25 AM
I LOVE Ruination... I don't love that it is $15 for a 6 pack though.

it is easily the hoppiest beer I have had... but I haven't had the Hopslam either... its hoppier than the 120 infused hop beer from Dogfish head?... I'm probably thinking of the wrong brewery here though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 14, 2009, 12:23:32 PM
I LOVE Ruination... I don't love that it is $15 for a 6 pack though.

On tap it's even better :)  Had it the Breckenridge brew fest a couple years ago.  11,000ft + all you can drink Ruination = near Ruination :)   Luckily I survived to drink another day.

The brewpub/tap house I mentioned in the above post had Arrogant Bastard on tap, but I can't remember if ruination was there.  Nonetheless, I'll be spending a lot more time there in the near future to figure out all their taps.  Life is such a chore...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on October 14, 2009, 01:14:23 PM
total ruination = 3 Liters of Augustaner at Oktoberfest last week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on October 17, 2009, 05:01:37 PM
Enjoying Leinie's Oktoberfest beer these days.  It's great for the fall season - not too heavy, not too light.  I'm a Honey Weiss guy in the summer.

Speaking of Oktoberfest, I remember being in Munich back in 1983 and loving - OK, overimbibing on - Paulaner.  Still amazed at how those tiny waitresses could carry so many steins!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyBIToldYa on October 17, 2009, 05:15:38 PM
Enjoying Leinie's Oktoberfest beer these days.  It's great for the fall season - not too heavy, not too light.  I'm a Honey Weiss guy in the summer.

Speaking of Oktoberfest, I remember being in Munich back in 1983 and loving - OK, overimbibing on - Paulaner.  Still amazed at how those tiny waitresses could carry so many steins!

If your an oktoberfest guy you need to check out summit's oktoberfest. its nearly 8% ABV and imo much more delicious than leinie's version.

Another great option is staghorn by new glarus.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on October 18, 2009, 08:32:57 AM
Had Stone Ruination yesterday - very hoppy, very good  but not as "drinkable" as Two-Hearted or Alpha King...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on October 18, 2009, 10:50:39 AM
Enjoying Leinie's Oktoberfest beer these days.  It's great for the fall season - not too heavy, not too light.  I'm a Honey Weiss guy in the summer.

Speaking of Oktoberfest, I remember being in Munich back in 1983 and loving - OK, overimbibing on - Paulaner.  Still amazed at how those tiny waitresses could carry so many steins!

I so utterly disgusted by Leinies Oktoberfest now. They changed the recipe 3 yrs ago to make the base of the beer the same as Honey Weiss and it has over sweetened the beer. I was talking to Jake about it and he said that they did it to lower overhead. I was floored. This is also why Red is sweeter now than it was a few years ago.

Paulaner is my absolute favorite traditional Marzen. Whomever said Staghorn above is right on. One of the best American Oktoberfest's.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GGGG on October 18, 2009, 10:57:35 AM
I so utterly disgusted by Leinies Oktoberfest now. They changed the recipe 3 yrs ago to make the base of the beer the same as Honey Weiss and it has over sweetened the beer. I was talking to Jake about it and he said that they did it to lower overhead. I was floored. This is also why Red is sweeter now than it was a few years ago.


OK...thanks for this.  I was wondering what was different about Red.  I thought it was just because I had been drinking a lot of Stouts lately so the Red just tasted sweeter.

BTW, last night was Sierra Nevada Stout.  Yum...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Wareagle on October 18, 2009, 11:41:33 AM
I so utterly disgusted by Leinies Oktoberfest now. They changed the recipe 3 yrs ago to make the base of the beer the same as Honey Weiss and it has over sweetened the beer. I was talking to Jake about it and he said that they did it to lower overhead. I was floored. This is also why Red is sweeter now than it was a few years ago.

Amazing how Leinie's went from beer I would splurge for in college (2000-04) to beer I wouldn't even consider now.  New Glarus should send Miller a Christmas card every year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on October 18, 2009, 12:00:16 PM
Great point, Wareagle.   When I was in college, (84-88),  Leinie's and Point were exotics.   Special Ex was a splurge and a really good beer with the recipe at the time.   Lowenbrau Dark at a Miller tour was an extreme reach.   For flavor, you would go to import night at the Ardmore where some people were trying this crazy thing of putting a lemon or lime in a Corona.    Ooooooooooo.  We are truly spoiled by the microbrew explosion of the last 20 years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on October 18, 2009, 12:26:22 PM
Amazing how Leinie's went from beer I would splurge for in college (2000-04) to beer I wouldn't even consider now.  New Glarus should send Miller a Christmas card every year.

So true. The only beer of theirs I'd actually buy now is Creamy Dark. Seems like the only one they haven't touched.

On a side note, I really wish they'd bring back Apple Spice. A lot of good memories drinking that stuff around the holidays.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on October 22, 2009, 10:45:35 PM
believe it or not, 7 years after graduation, i just had my first lenie's original.  I must say, it may be my favorite leine.  Seems like it would be a good drink all day beer. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyBIToldYa on October 23, 2009, 06:56:32 PM
flying dog's in-heat wheat is very good. finally someone was able to make a wheat beer without polluting it with too many hops
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: chapman on October 25, 2009, 05:40:27 PM
believe it or not, 7 years after graduation, i just had my first lenie's original.  I must say, it may be my favorite leine.  Seems like it would be a good drink all day beer. 

Definitely not something to drink all day...it's easily one of the worst hangover beers there is.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on October 26, 2009, 10:11:49 PM
Tried a few new beers last week-

Ale Asylum Satisfaction Jacksin- Their Double IPA, packs a punch at 8% I believe. Pours a copper color with a strong hoppy aroma. Definitely the classic bitterness you'd expect, but they balance it out nicely with the malts. Has a bit of sweetness, but a definite bitter finish. Expensive though, $15 for a sixer. Great beer though, especially for the hopheads.

Furthermore Fallen Apple- Had this one on tap. An interesting take, a cream ale brewed with apple juice. Definitely tart, and a little sweet. Drinks more like a cider than a beer. It was decent, had nothing on the Apple Ale New Glarus put out last year though.

Tyranena Imperial Chocolate Porter- Fantastic beer. Poured a very dark brown with a tan head. Had a lot of the roasted notes you'd expect, but the chocolate balances everything. Also some subtle nutty flavor as well. Not as sweet as other chocolate beers. They really nailed it with this one.

Three Floyd's Moloko Milk Stout- When I saw this on tap I had to get it. Really delicious. Not as bitter as some stouts can be, the coffee notes are more of an undertone. Sweet, somewhat chocolatey. Very, very smooth and creamy. Dangerously drinkable. This was the first beer I've had from them that wasn't part of the pale ale family, and I'm impressed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on October 29, 2009, 09:19:58 AM
I totally agree with ^ on the Ale Asylum Satisfaction Jackson. My brother gave me a bottle to try over the weekend and it was very tasty. I'm not buying at $15 though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on October 30, 2009, 10:57:13 AM
Has anyone had 2 Below by New Belgium?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on October 30, 2009, 11:01:39 AM
no, but I bet it is overrated :-D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on October 30, 2009, 11:07:40 AM
no, but I bet it is overrated :-D

Actually I was just reading ratings on Beer Advocate, and they seem mixed at best. I just asked here because the people that provide ratings on BA go into tremendous detail that means nothing to me. 

For example, is there really a big difference between serving a beer at 38.1 degrees and 37 degrees?

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 02, 2009, 12:39:23 PM
Has anyone had 2 Below by New Belgium?

It's decent, nothing special.  If I'm in the mood for a winter beer, and it it's the only choice, I'd definitely drink it.  I'd probably choose it over a few others too.  However, not the cream of the crop.

So yeah, probably overrated  ;D  But worth a try.

On the other hand, I had the New Belgium "Fall Wild" yesterday.  An absolutely horrid beer.  Decent base, but the spices are over the top.  Felt like I was drinking a can of Libby's Pumpkin Pie Mix, mixed with some decent Belgium beer.  If you ever run across it, try a sample before you buy.  I didn't and wish I would have.

While I'm at it, I did try the Stone Smoked Porter (on tap) last week too.  I didn't get the "sweat sock" taste after a sample, so got a whole pint.  I thought it was a decent brew, however it is very smoky.  I couldn't drink more than one, but went with BBQ pizza fairly well :)  Won't be added to my all time favorite list, but I'd say it has it's place in the beer world.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on November 06, 2009, 10:50:03 PM
just had my first Founders Breakfast Stout, clap clap clap.  Would write more, but i have to go get my second.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 07, 2009, 10:31:01 AM
I am off to the The Seventh Annual Festival of Wood and Barrel Aged Beer tonight in Chicago. Needless to say I will be trying a bunch of random crap. Tons of great breweries will be in attendance. Anyone ever been to this?


http://www.illinoisbeer.com/ (http://www.illinoisbeer.com/)


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on November 12, 2009, 07:26:15 PM

Had to try Ale Ayslum "Satisfaction Jackson" Double IPA after many strong recommendations.    Very good - compared it to a known favorite Three Floyds Alpha King - very similar in taste / hop level.   At $15 / six pack - I would opt for Alpha King or Bells Two Hearted.     Want to support the local brewery though (even though it's in the People's Republic of Madison).  Also need to try it on tap before final verdict...





Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Aughnanure on November 13, 2009, 10:05:38 PM
This might not get up to Milwaukee/Chicago....but Boulevard in Kansas City is the best overall Midwest beer Ive had, their are so many different types but their Pale Ale, Wheat and Lunar are fantastic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on November 13, 2009, 11:54:42 PM
tonight it was Founders Breakfast Stout after the MU win - great beer....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on November 14, 2009, 12:43:04 AM
tonight it was Founders Breakfast Stout after the MU win - great beer....


Enjoying the same right now while playing some online poker.  I am very excited to try the Kentucky Breakfast Stout next year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 14, 2009, 01:29:29 AM
Boulevard in Kansas City is the best overall Midwest beer Ive had

When Spiral and I were in KC in 2006 for the CBE (passing out MUScoop business cards for the first time, I might add....) I think we split a case or two of Boulevard's brews.  I didn't have anything bad to say about it, but I think there are several Wisconsin breweries with better selections.

Of course that's exactly why I hardly every claim a brew is bad (except for stuff in bottles - lol) because taste is in the eye of the taster. (er, bud of the taster?)

Nonetheless, if in the KC area, you need to try Boulevard brews.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 22, 2009, 12:11:17 PM
This weekend tried three new beers.

Three Floyds Alpha Klaus: It is a real good porter, very chocolaty but with bitter hops note. It is like Alpha King with a lot of chocolate malt.

Three Floyds Broo Doo: AMAZING beer. It is their harvest ale and it is "wet hoped". It is really hoppy in a good way but has some malt back so it is not just a hopbomb. But it is freaking awesome.

Lakefront Local Acre Lager: I was able to get three sample bombers of this from my guy. I was not a fan. No one in our group liked it. Thought it had a really funky flavor that was not enjoyable. I will try full production bottle once it comes out in three weeks. I hope it is better than preproduction samples.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on November 23, 2009, 11:47:29 AM
I tried a few new ones this weekend.
Tyranena Dirty Old Man - a rye porter aged in rye whiskey barrels, I really liked this one, alot of chocolate flavor along with the rye
Three Floyds Dreadnaught - very good DIPA, more fruit flavors than being a hopbomb like other DIPA's
Goose Island 2009 Bourbon County Stout - wow, strong taste of alcohol (12.4%) but a good sipper
Capitol Brewing Autumnal Fire - was described as basically Dopplecock meets Oktoberfest (7.4%ABV) quite a sweet malt flavor, OK, not real impressive to me, nothing from Capitol has ever done much for me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on November 24, 2009, 11:17:50 PM
Tried a bunch of new ones lately-

Had the 2 Below from New Belgium. It was solid, but unspectacular. It was almost like they had spiced up some Fat Tire and called it a winter seasonal.

Furthermore Proper- Their English style ale. Has some toasted malt and bready tones. Bittered by the English hops, slightly sweet finish. A pretty decent beer. Not as adventurous as some of their other offerings.

Bell’s Double Cream Stout- Hot damn this is a great beer. Will definitely be in my winter rotation, right up there with the Founders Breakfast Stout. Really creamy, malty beer. All the right stout flavors, and very drinkable. Love it, can't recommend it enough.

Magic Hat Howl- Dark winter lager. Very roasty up front, but finishes pretty smooth. Not much hops to it. Not bad, but it wouldn’t be my first choice for a winter brew.

Left Hand Juju Ginger Ale- A friend bought a sampler of Left Hand stuff, and this was the first we sampled. Pours a nice golden color, very drinkable, with the taste of fresh ginger present, but not overpowering. I really liked it, would be a great light beer for the summer.

Left Hand Sawtooth Ale- Their ESB, pours Amber with a nice head to it. This one almost reminded me of Pride and Joy, as the citrus hops are very present. A pretty solid beer.

And then there’s the Imperial Stout. Jet black, pours like friggin motor oil. The standard stout flavors, but there was some fruity notes to it. Real heavy beer, and at 10% it will definitely warm you up. For the style, it was excellent.

New Glarus Cranbic Ale- I wasn’t sure how I felt about this at first. I bought it last night, and the first bottle I had was kinda funky. It had a nice cranberry tartness, but an oaky finish that was overwhelming. I’m having one now and it’s much, much more balanced. Enjoying this one much more, perhaps the first was just a bad bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Aughnanure on November 25, 2009, 02:28:35 PM
When Spiral and I were in KC in 2006 for the CBE (passing out MUScoop business cards for the first time, I might add....) I think we split a case or two of Boulevard's brews.  I didn't have anything bad to say about it, but I think there are several Wisconsin breweries with better selections.

Of course that's exactly why I hardly every claim a brew is bad (except for stuff in bottles - lol) because taste is in the eye of the taster. (er, bud of the taster?)

Nonetheless, if in the KC area, you need to try Boulevard brews.

I know we are all bias in our hometown brews, but you must have only tried the Pale Ale or Wheat which is just their standard. There are around 12-15 different boulevard beers depending on the season and its growing constantly (only 20 years old and now the biggest Missouri brewery- Bud now doesnt count cause it was bought, haha i love that part).

I have tried many different beers in Milwaukee, I cant always remember their names a lot, but just wondering which ones you think are easily better than Boulevard. The only one with many different brews that I can compare it to personally is Lienenkugels and Lakefront. I would personally take Boulevard over either's (again, I am biased) but I really dont think Leinenkugel's can even hold a candle to Boulevard. Lakefront I liked very much though from the few times I had it and on the brew tour.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on November 25, 2009, 03:08:58 PM
Does anyone know of the a website where you trade beers with others around the world? 

Someone once told me that you can trade a beer to someone say in India who has access to a beer over there that you would like to try and maybe they would like to try spotted cow or something that is only sold in wisconsin. Is this made up or has anyone heard of it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on November 26, 2009, 04:21:06 PM
Bell’s Double Cream Stout- Hot damn this is a great beer. Will definitely be in my winter rotation, right up there with the Founders Breakfast Stout. Really creamy, malty beer. All the right stout flavors, and very drinkable. Love it, can't recommend it enough.



mmm, Bell's Double Cream Stout -  it would be hard to pick between Bell;'s DC, Founders Breakfast and Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout as my favorite...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Rollout-the-Barrel on November 27, 2009, 03:32:49 PM
Any recommendations on home brew shops in Madison or Milwaukee?  I've purchased from the wine and hop shop in madison, but heard there was a few in the milwaukee area that I could stop at before a MU game.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on November 27, 2009, 07:01:05 PM
Any recommendations on home brew shops in Madison or Milwaukee?  I've purchased from the wine and hop shop in madison, but heard there was a few in the milwaukee area that I could stop at before a MU game.

There's one just south of Bluemound Rd. on Janacek Rd. in Brookfield. Stopped in there once, they seem to have a lot of stuff. Forgot what the name of it was.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on November 30, 2009, 09:15:29 AM
Any recommendations on home brew shops in Madison or Milwaukee?  I've purchased from the wine and hop shop in madison, but heard there was a few in the milwaukee area that I could stop at before a MU game.

I go to the Frugal Homebrewer in downtown Waukesha for supplies www.frugalhomebrewer.com

I tried the Lupulin Maximus from O-so this weekend. It's 9%, heavily hopped (there's actually a Fuggles hop cone in every bottle). For as many hops that are in this, it's actually offset by the sweet malt flavors. very enjoyable taste IMO


I agree with the above on Bell's Double Cream stout, really like that one also
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 30, 2009, 09:38:06 AM
As for homebrew places in Milwaukee... I think a HUGE place just opened... though I don't know the name of it, my cousin goes there and says it is awesome... maybe its in 'stallis?

also, tried some beer from VA... Star Hill... it was okay.  nothing great.  probably wouldn't try it again.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: GoldenWarrior on November 30, 2009, 04:35:55 PM
Great Lakes Brewery Christmas Ale... I LOVE IT!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Rollout-the-Barrel on December 03, 2009, 04:29:18 PM
I go to the Frugal Homebrewer in downtown Waukesha for supplies www.frugalhomebrewer.com
Thanks for the recommendation.  I'm looking to convert to kegs from bottles as I'm getting too lazy to bottle all the time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: drewm88 on December 05, 2009, 06:23:09 PM
Great Lakes Brewery Christmas Ale... I LOVE IT!!!

I also just had one these. Very good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on December 06, 2009, 09:54:31 PM
I've become a pretty big fan of Two Brothers Brewing Company.  They brew out of Warrenville, IL.

Their Heavy Handed IPA (Wet Hop) and their Heav-ier Handed IPA (Oak Foudre Aged - bomber only) were dynamite.  This weekend, I tried their Northwind Imperial Stout, and it was fantastic.  A few weeks ago, I had their Cain and Ebel Red Rye Ale.  All were great.  Two Brothers are worth checking out if you think in terms of breweries, especially if you roll in the Chicago Burbs.

+1 on the Goose Island Bourbon County Stout, and the Three Floyds Alpha Klaus and Broo-Doo.

I am now on the hunt for Bells Double Cream Stout.  Also, since it's officially the Holiday season, any other recommendations for Holiday/Christmas Beers? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on December 06, 2009, 10:56:01 PM
Had the Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale. Pretty tasty. Not a bad Holiday offering.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 11, 2009, 06:19:23 PM
favorite Colorado Brewery:  Left Hand.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 11, 2009, 06:24:27 PM
favorite Colorado Brewery:  Left Hand.

Heh heh heh, that's in walking distance from my house :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: muwarrior87 on December 11, 2009, 07:51:32 PM
Heh heh heh, that's in walking distance from my house :)

Just had their Milk Stout last week. Damn good beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 16, 2009, 07:55:52 PM
Quote
Tentative NG Unplugged schedule for 2010

So the word from Dan the Man is that they have their Unplugged beers pretty well decided for 2010. Their distro meeting is tomorrow I believe, so they have to have it somewhat decided by then. A lot of this is based off the voting from a few months ago, so they are bringing back a few old favorites. The unofficial list is:

Enigma
Apple Ale
Cherry Stout
Abt (think Westy/Bernardus 12)

Also, they are "thinking" of replacing Hop Hearty w/ a "paler, West Coast type aromatic" ale. There was some dissent to this idea in the tour group I was in, so if you are in favor of this change, please please please flood their mailboxes with your support!

The Good likes the sound of this very much! Especially the Apple Ale (delicious) and the Abt (very excited to try)


One big disappointment is the word that they are discontinuing the Yokel, one of their best imo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 16, 2009, 08:11:07 PM
I had the Great Lake Christmas Beer on tap this past weekend. Damn good choice for a holiday beer if you can find it. Spicy, malty with some hop balance.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 16, 2009, 08:17:01 PM
I had the Great Lake Christmas Beer on tap this past weekend. Damn good choice for a holiday beer if you can find it. Spicy, malty with some hop balance.

they have it at campus foods.

they are actually growing quite a nice stock of craft beer at campus foods due to the request of a couple students
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 16, 2009, 08:35:47 PM
they have it at campus foods.

they are actually growing quite a nice stock of craft beer at campus foods due to the request of a couple students

do they still turn their coolers off at night like they used to?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 16, 2009, 08:38:11 PM
do they still turn their coolers off at night like they used to?

no idea, i usually go in wednesday when they are getting their new shipments and grab whatever they just got in
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 18, 2009, 10:08:57 AM
I managed to score a 24oz. bottle of Life & Limb at Discount last night, only one on the shelf. This is a 10.5%ABV collaboration between Dogfish Head and Sierra NV and is in extremely limited supply. A touch of maple syrup but not at all sweet. An Excellent beer if you can find it but it was pricy at $13 for the bottle.

also picked up 2 more 4-packs of the O'so Lupulin Maximus, I love this beer and plan to hoard as much as I can get.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: drewm88 on December 18, 2009, 04:17:53 PM
Recently had Oscar's Chocolate Oatmeal Stout out of Black River Falls, WI and Shipwrecked Peninsula Porter out of Door County. The stout was excellent, and the porter was solid, if a little sweet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on December 19, 2009, 05:19:38 PM
Had the Sierra Neveda Celebration, great beer!  Not spicy like other seasonals.  Also, right now enjoying a bomber of Weyerbacher Insanity.  Coming in 11.5%, but the smoothest thing I have ever had over 10%.  Dark red, pours really nice.  Highly reccomend it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on December 19, 2009, 06:11:07 PM
I have a half barrel of Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale tapped on my beermeister in the garage....has been very tasty for about a 10 days now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on December 19, 2009, 07:23:07 PM
Had the Sierra Neveda Celebration, great beer!  Not spicy like other seasonals.  Also, right now enjoying a bomber of Weyerbacher Insanity.  Coming in 11.5%, but the smoothest thing I have ever had over 10%.  Dark red, pours really nice.  Highly reccomend it.


Damn it.  Passed up the Celebration last week in favor of some Gentlemen Jack at my company xmas party.

Where was this info a week ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 19, 2009, 08:14:42 PM
I have a half barrel of Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale tapped on my beermeister in the garage....has been very tasty for about a 10 days now.

Is celebration an IPA?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on December 19, 2009, 08:52:37 PM
Is celebration an IPA?

The long, cold nights of winter are a little brighter with Celebration Ale. Wonderfully robust and rich, Celebration Ale is dry-hopped for a lively, intense aroma. Brewed especially for the holidays, it is perfect for a festive gathering or for a quiet evening at home.

“…best beer ever made in America.”
– Stan Sessor, San Francisco Chronicle


alcohol content 6.8% by volume                 bittering hops Chinook 
beginning gravity 16.0 Plato                       finishing hops Cascade & Centennial 
ending gravity 4.0 Plato                            dry hopping Cascade & Centennial
bitterness units 65                                   malts Two-row Pale & English Caramel
yeast Top-fermenting Ale Yeast
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on December 19, 2009, 09:40:58 PM
Is celebration an IPA?

Not quite hoppy enough to be a full IPA, but you get a little tinge of hop while drinking it.  Very very nice brew.  About to crack numero tres of the night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 22, 2009, 08:41:09 AM
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091221/twl-large-blaze-at-guinness-factory-site-3fd0ae9.html

A day of great concern.    Guinness was my first non-ale, non-lager beer.  My introduction to the stouts of the world.    A great and worthy beer, though I prefer others now.   Thankfully, it looks like production won't be affected.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 22, 2009, 12:24:32 PM
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091221/twl-large-blaze-at-guinness-factory-site-3fd0ae9.html

A day of great concern.    Guinness was my first non-ale, non-lager beer.  My introduction to the stouts of the world.    A great and worthy beer, though I prefer others now.   Thankfully, it looks like production won't be affected.

Guinness is an ale as it uses ale yeast but it also a stout.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 22, 2009, 01:46:59 PM
Fair point.   To be more accurate, it was my first Stout.   Should have said that in the first place. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 22, 2009, 01:49:56 PM
Fair point.   To be more accurate, it was my first Stout.   Should have said that in the first place. 

True dat. Because one may not have beer if they didn't have an ale or a lager - only wort.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on December 23, 2009, 12:52:04 PM
Tried the O-so Lupulin Maximus (with the hop in the bottle). They are located in my old neck of the woods so I made the trip to Discount specifically for that beer.    It was okay - no match for TF's Alpha King / Dreadnaught or Bell's Two-Hearted Ale.   The difference is that the Lupulin tasked like hops rather than being a "hoppy ale" with the bitterness/crispness of a heavily hopped ale.

Not bad but much better out there.    


Also - had a Dogfish Head 90 that was a remnant in the beer fridge - damn, that's good beer ...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on December 23, 2009, 10:51:47 PM
revisited the O-so Lupulin - still an average hoppy ale but the hop in the bottle thing annoys me.   Does not add to the flavor, if you drink out of the bottle you get a wet leafy thing hitting your mouth, if you try to pour it in a pint glass, the hop blocks your pour....

annoying beer....

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 23, 2009, 10:59:43 PM
I am not a big stout fan, much more of a hop head, but had Bell's Special Double Cream stout. This is a very drinkable stout. Not to bitter - just really damn good. Great winter beer.

Also had 2 bombers of Three Floyds Broo Doo - the beer is just awesome. It's a wet hopped harvest ale. Awesome! Great hop flavors, slightly bitter, but hoppy as hell.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 24, 2009, 12:22:38 AM
Had New Glarus Imperial Saison and Black Wheat tonight.

The Imperial Saison was very good, very apricoty and peachy, and hides the 10% abv very well. My only complaint was I thought it was much too carbonated. I was burping the entire time. Will hopefully improve with some age. I would recommend it if you want to try the style, as it is very unique, but i probably wouldn't go looking for it again.

The black wheat was amazing.  It starts off with the sweet dunkel taste, and finishes with a nutty, fat squirrel-like taste. So delicious. This is not a wheat beer, very dark and nutty, but not dark as in a porter, dark like a dunkel. I strongly recommend this great brew, especially since I believe New Glarus is not making it next year. Try it while you can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on December 24, 2009, 07:53:01 PM
If this brew has been mentioned before, I apologize, but after this progression:  1. Tripel Karmeliet;  2.  Chimay Ale; I just had a "Brother David's Double Abbey Style Ale" from Anderson Valley Brewing Company, of (sic) Boonville, California.  Unless the ghost of Christmas present has totally messed me up, this is one fine brew.  Very malty.  Best of the three.                                                                              
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on December 24, 2009, 07:57:13 PM
Just took down a few Sierra Neveda Extra IPA.  Solid beer.  Doesn't blow your socks off, but a nice beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on December 24, 2009, 08:00:52 PM
Just took down a few Sierra Neveda Extra IPA.  Solid beer.  Doesn't blow your socks off, but a nice beer.

Torpedo?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on December 24, 2009, 08:15:34 PM
Yup!  I'm on my 4th :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 29, 2009, 04:06:32 PM
revisited the O-so Lupulin - still an average hoppy ale but the hop in the bottle thing annoys me.   Does not add to the flavor, if you drink out of the bottle you get a wet leafy thing hitting your mouth, if you try to pour it in a pint glass, the hop blocks your pour....

annoying beer....

I respectfully disagree, I have shared this brew with a few friends and we are all in awe of this beer


why are you drinking it out of the bottle anyway? I've only had 1 bottle (out of a dozen) where the hop blocked the pour and all I had to do was tip it back upright to drop the hop back down

no worries though, I've been stockpiling this as I doubt that O'so will brew it regularly so more for me if you pass it by  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on December 29, 2009, 05:34:56 PM
drank it out of the bottle after my attempt to pour got blocked 6 or 7 times by the hop...

it's pretty good beer but is not in the same class as Alpha King or Two-Hearted Ale (and I want them to succeed as they are located where I grew up - want to see them do well, just they don't stack up with kings of hoppy ales)...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on December 31, 2009, 08:13:25 AM
Tried 2 "Bohemian Black" style beers recently, Shiner Black (Texas) and Black Art Black (Ohio/Germany).  Both were very tasty at a lower price point ($7.99) for a 6 pack.  I think this the style that 1554 from New Belgium is going for, but both of the previously mentioned beers do it cheaper and with a smoother finish.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 31, 2009, 04:51:21 PM
Picked up:

Three Floyd's Alpha King:  Honestly, I'm not all that impressed.  It's good, but not the world changer I expected.
Lake Louie Milk Stout: Easily the best Milk Stout I have ever had... Nothing compares... maybe Left Hand's is close
Lake Louie Mr. Mephisto Imperial Stout:  Will update after a bottle
Great Lakes Brewery Christmas Ale: Will update after a bottle

Happy New Year!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: akmarq on December 31, 2009, 05:55:24 PM
Would def. like to try some of the stouts listed above.  We get a different selection of beers in the Northwest, but I've been digging Deschutes Brewery's Black Butte Porter lately.  Their Obsidian Stout is also very tasty.  Both feature that good, sweetish malty flavor that makes Porters and Stouts so great.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on January 04, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
Based on the recommendation of the Whole Foods beer guy, I tried Lagunitas Brown Shugga.  It's a holiday-ish beer.  Delicious, sweet, hoppy, high ABV.

I've seen Lagunitas beers lots but have never tried any of their stuff (really try to drink local beers first), but this one was very good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 04, 2010, 12:30:22 PM
Tried 2 "Bohemian Black" style beers recently, Shiner Black (Texas) and Black Art Black (Ohio/Germany).  Both were very tasty at a lower price point ($7.99) for a 6 pack.  I think this the style that 1554 from New Belgium is going for, but both of the previously mentioned beers do it cheaper and with a smoother finish.

In the "black" theme, In December I accidentally discovered Session Black from Full Sail in Oregon.  Excellent beer! But I only picked it up because a 12 stubbies were on sale for $9.99. 

Nonetheless, I went back and picked up two more cases while it was on sale :)  BTW, after I got my poker group to fall in love with it, I looked it up more, apparently trained beer judges agree cuz it won Gold at the GABF last year.

Find some if you can!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 04, 2010, 12:55:11 PM
Based on the recommendation of the Whole Foods beer guy, I tried Lagunitas Brown Shugga.  It's a holiday-ish beer.  Delicious, sweet, hoppy, high ABV.

I've seen Lagunitas beers lots but have never tried any of their stuff (really try to drink local beers first), but this one was very good.

I have had this twice and hated it both times. Way too sugary to increase the alcohol content in my opinion. The booze is too upfront. I have tried so many Lagunitas beers that so many people love and but I just tend to dislike everything they produce, kind of like Sierra Nevada.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on January 04, 2010, 02:05:37 PM
I have tried so many Lagunitas beers that so many people love and but I just tend to dislike everything they produce, kind of like Sierra Nevada.


Never had the Laguntis, but have you had the Torpedo Extra IPA by Sierra Nevada?  Very nice, especially for around $7 for a sixer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 04, 2010, 07:24:12 PM
Never had the Laguntis, but have you had the Torpedo Extra IPA by Sierra Nevada?  Very nice, especially for around $7 for a sixer.

I have. I am just not a fan of the types of hops Sierra Nevada uses. Just not a mix I prefer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on January 16, 2010, 09:35:59 PM
have to bump up the Beer Thread - revisited the O-so Lupulin AGAIN.     Slightly better this time - maybe this time it's because the bottle did not have the hop in it and it poured nicely.   It;s pretty good but Alpha King and Two-Hearted is better...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on January 16, 2010, 10:59:33 PM
Great article on a beer joint in Maine, looking forward to driving up there soon!


Nowhere like here for beer
Interest became expertise; now the world points to Lovell if you want a best of brew

By Steve Greenlee, Globe Staff  |  January 17, 2010

LOVELL - Once you get through the town of Fryeburg, you keep heading north on Route 5, through several miles of dense white pines and ramshackle houses with RVs parked out front, past The Wicked Good Store (breakfast, lunch, take-out pizza, 12-packs of Miller and Coors Light), past the local self-storage facility, past Lovell Hardware and not much else, and there it is - whoops, you passed it - down a dirt road but barely visible from the main drag: Ebenezer’s Restaurant & Pub.

Ebenezer’s is a world-renowned bar, but it looks like any other house in the area. If not for the carved wooden sign hanging from the tree out front, you would think it was just a house. Once you step inside, you can hardly believe you’re deep in the woods of western Maine.

The restaurant seats a few dozen people, and the bar is so tiny it would be crowded with 20. But this is beer heaven. Ebenezer’s has 35 Belgian ales on tap and several hundred varieties in bottles, most of them stored in an astonishing beer cellar.

Belgian glasses - tulips and goblets, each tailored to a specific beer - glisten from racks above the gleaming copper-top bar. Behind the bartender is the huge array of tap handles. Dozens and dozens of bottles sit on shelves in the glass case to the right. The iconic pink elephant that is synonymous with the Delirium Tremens strong pale ale, one of the finest beers in the world, sits on a tap at the front of the bar, there in a class by itself.

People come from all over, even from the West Coast, just to sample the selection here. Devotees have been known to plan vacations around a trip to Ebenezer’s. It is no wonder the place has been named the No. 1 bar, beer restaurant, and beer destination in the world by the likes of Beer Advocate magazine and RateBeer.com. (A sign over the entrance boasts about these superlatives.)

So what is the world’s greatest bar doing in the middle of nowhere? Chris and Jen Lively bought the place precisely because of its location. They were living in Los Angeles - a trained chef, Chris was a food and beverage consultant for a hotel chain - and they decided to get out. They came to Maine, where Jen’s parents lived, to have a go at running a restaurant. In 2001, they stumbled across Ebenezer’s, which was up for sale.

“My wife found this place, this restaurant that had this house attached to it, with 3 acres of land, and it was basically the same price as a two-bedroom house in the ghetto of Los Angeles,’’ said Chris Lively, 36. “We took this over, and we never expected it to become what it did. It had Coors, Bud - it was a redneck bar. . . . We wanted to build a restaurant. That was the dream, the restaurant. We wanted to have a few nice beers, too; we brought in Westmalle, Chimay, whatever we could get our hands on.’’

But Lively’s interest in fine beer was growing, and it didn’t take long for word to spread that a bar with A-class beers had popped up in tiny Lovell (population 974), far, far from any city. Lively got more Belgian beers, rare ones that can be difficult to find in this country.

The Boston area’s finest pubs can’t match Ebenezer’s offerings. The selection is said to exceed even those of Belgium’s best bars. On a recent Saturday night, I tried a De Ranke XX Bitter Belgian IPA, a rare Pannepot Grand Reserva quadrupel, a Gulden Draak dark ale, and a Struise Tsjeeses pale ale, which is nearly impossible to find in the United States. The beers on tap included such unusual ones as Balthazar, a strong ale brewed with coriander, ginger, and cardamom; and Cantillon Rose Grambinus, a sour ale made with raspberries. Unfortunately, on the night I went, Ebenezer’s was out of one beer for which it has become famous: Black Albert, a Belgian royal stout brewed specially for Lively by De Struise Brouwers.

Some people come here for the low-key atmosphere, some come for the amazing selection of brews, and some come for both.

“They have a better beer selection than anyplace I can think of in a 200-mile radius,’’ said Anna McGreavy, 26, of Brownfield, who was seated at one of the eight stools at the bar and drinking a dark Belgian ale. “And it’s a nice, mellow, local scene.’’ The lack of pretense is important to people here. Drinking a Trappist ale or a Coors Light, you are equally welcome.

The food impresses just as much. This is no run-of-the-mill pub grub. There are salads and burgers, sure, but the menu also features appetizers like lobster quesadilla and coconut shrimp in sweet chili sauce and such entrees as mussels cooked in Belgian beer as well as a gourmet version of seafood scampi.

Some months, getting a table in the dining room or a seat at the bar is not much of a problem. The Saturday night in December when I visited, maybe 20 people came through the doors between 6 and 11 p.m. Several stayed by the bar, but others had come for the food - a family with a 3-year-old boy, a pair of elderly couples, another couple in their 20s. Other times of the year, the wait can exceed two hours. At the height of summer and especially in snowmobile season (the pub is on a popular trail), the place is often packed. During the pub’s Belgian beer festival in August, visitors camp out in tents on the adjacent golf course - despite the $250 per person prix fixe menu. (“It’s the greatest beer dinner in the history of mankind,’’ Lively said, laughing, though seeming not to be joking.)

Lively’s timing was fortuitous. Ebenezer’s rise has coincided with an explosion in the craft beer movement in the United States, which has in turn generated a surge of interest in Belgian ales, which are widely regarded as the gold standard. Websites run by beer aficionados point readers to Ebenezer’s. And Lively is building on his success: Last year he opened a second pub, the Lion’s Pride, in Brunswick, which has just as many beers but a more upscale menu. He says he’d like to expand further.

Yet Ebenezer’s doesn’t owe its success exclusively to beer geeks. The pub may be making its name by drawing people from all over the country, but something just as interesting has happened in Lovell itself. The locals were stopping by Ebenezer’s for an American lager and ended up sampling the Belgian ales.

“I was so pigheaded,’’ said Joe Davis, who lives in town and says he comes to Ebenezer’s every weekend. He drank Budweiser for two years here before Lively could persuade him to try a Belgian brew. Now that’s all he wants. “It took a long time, but it’s better quality - all these different flavors and everything.’’

Stephen Glasgow, who lives nearby, said he drinks at Ebenezer’s every weekend. He’s here so much that he and Lively have become good friends. But he, like the others, is only a recent convert to Belgian ales. He was drinking Guinness stout and American microbrews before Lively came to town.

“I don’t like beer, I love beer,’’ Glasgow said. “Where else can you find beer like this? Find me one bar.’’

Steve Greenlee can be reached at greenlee@globe.com. 


© Copyright 2010 The New York Times Company
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 18, 2010, 05:24:54 PM
Beer Rave is back, Jan 30!  If you're in the denver/boulder area (or will be in the area), I highly recommend this.  Went last year, and it's exceptional.  About 50 hard to find microbrews available.  And even some special kegs from Boulder brewing available (loved the whiskey barrel oaked hazed & infused last year)

http://boulderbeer.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=101&osCsid=3d6cb635cf37216cb4fcd06912330c26
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 18, 2010, 06:34:26 PM
This weekend had quite a few Avery New World Porters. Man this beer is fantastic. It is nice porter that has a surprising amount of hops in it. It is not a super hoppy beer, but has a good amount that lends to a perfect balance.

Great beer.

Also, Hopslam is back.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on February 05, 2010, 06:08:10 PM
Had my first Gumball Head this week, visiting from the East Coast.

And it didn't disappoint.  Top notch.  Now I just have to get Three Floyds to distribute in Boston.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on February 05, 2010, 07:04:47 PM
Got my Hopslam fix last weekend. Have had a few new ones since.

Helped a friend with a sampler from Tyranena. I've had, and loved a couple of their beers (Rocky's Revenge, Chocolate Porter) and had a few others for the first time. Their Stone Tepee Pale Ale was very good, and I was really impressed with the Bitter Woman IPA. The hopheads on here should try it, it was excellent. I stopped at their brewery on the way back from Madison awhile back, small operation but they make some great beer.

Really enjoyed the Founders Centennial IPA. One of the better IPA's out there, good citrus and bitterness with a strong malty backbone. Very drinkable for the ABV.

Also had Left Hand Haystack Wheat. A decent Hefeweizen, but couldn't hold a candle to Dancing Man.

The last newbie was the Winter Solstice from Anderson Valley. Very good beer. High enough alcohol to warm you up a bit but still drinkable. Had a nice caramel sweetness to it, balanced by some roasted malt. Really enjoyed it.

Has anyone had the New Glarus Honey Bock? I'm intrigued to see how it stacks up to Capital, who make some very solid Bocks IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on February 05, 2010, 07:15:41 PM
Got my Hopslam fix last weekend. Have had a few new ones since.

Really enjoyed the Founders Centennial IPA. One of the better IPA's out there, good citrus and bitterness with a strong malty backbone. Very drinkable for the ABV.

Also had Left Hand Haystack Wheat. A decent Hefeweizen, but couldn't hold a candle to Dancing Man.

The last newbie was the Winter Solstice from Anderson Valley. Very good beer. High enough alcohol to warm you up a bit but still drinkable. Had a nice caramel sweetness to it, balanced by some roasted malt. Really enjoyed it.

Has anyone had the New Glarus Honey Bock? I'm intrigued to see how it stacks up to Capital, who make some very solid Bocks IMO.

I was somewhat dissapointed by the honey bock. Not a traditional "bock" like I was expecting, because it was a maibock. It was very light, almost like a honey pilsner. Very drinkable, just nothing special. And I am usually a huge fan of NG.

Right now I am enjoying bells two hearted. Amazing beer. I am pretty depressed now that SN Celebration isn't available again till next November. However, I think that after discovering this beer I will make it, they are quite similar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on February 05, 2010, 09:46:41 PM
Tried out Sam Adams new spring offering; Coastal Wheat...not bad, but not awesome.  Probably pass on it again.

But right, enjoying very much an Otter Creek Imperial IPA.  Very hoppy, smooooooth too.  Reinko likey.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on February 06, 2010, 12:01:12 AM
I was somewhat dissapointed by the honey bock. Not a traditional "bock" like I was expecting, because it was a maibock. It was very light, almost like a honey pilsner. Very drinkable, just nothing special. And I am usually a huge fan of NG.

Right now I am enjoying bells two hearted. Amazing beer. I am pretty depressed now that SN Celebration isn't available again till next November. However, I think that after discovering this beer I will make it, they are quite similar.

Interesting to hear about the Honey Bock. New Glarus hasn't really gone that direction in the past, so that was my concern. They're introducing some new beer this year, including another bock. Looking forward to trying their Cherry Stout though. If it's anywhere near Bell's it'll be a treat.

Two Hearted is a great beer. If you like that one, try Founders Red's Rye IPA. One of the best beers I've had, in any style.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 06, 2010, 01:34:34 AM
I am pretty depressed now that SN Celebration isn't available again till next November.

Be aware, that the 2009 Celebration was very good right away.  Previous years have been good, but are usually better after about a couple (2) years of bottle aging.  If you can stand to keep from drinking a 6 pack of Celebration for a coupe years (kept semi-cool at least) it will be well worth your time.

No, I've never done it.  But in 2007 (I think) I was gifted a flight of Celebration from 2002-2007, and the 2004 was the "best" at that time. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ohyahhey on February 06, 2010, 09:33:23 AM
Generally, I'm more of a red wine guy, but when I do have beer, I favor Miller Chill (the poor man's Corona w/lime).  I'm a little depressed, though, because my local (St. Paul) liquor store told me that it's being discontinued?!?!?  Maybe you Milwaukee locals know more about that than they seem to around here.  Sometimes I have to cross the St. Croix and drive to Hudson to get some.

But in a pinch, I do like Magic Hat #9 (clean, and very little hoppy-ness), and for an all-night sipping beer, John Henry 3 Lick Spiker Ale does the trick.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 06, 2010, 04:44:12 PM
I favor Miller Chill (the poor man's Corona w/lime). 

Well, go out and get a case of miller lite, buy a couple limes, pop open the miller lite, squeeze a bit of lime into it.  Viola!  Beer with lime :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on February 06, 2010, 05:34:04 PM
It gets worse than corona w/ lime??? oh, boy
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on February 06, 2010, 09:40:13 PM
or if its cheap lime beer you like...  Bud light lime, or take a 4 pack of steel reserve, a plastic bottle of lime juice and go to town. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ohyahhey on February 06, 2010, 09:46:48 PM
Okay, okay, I get it!  :)  There are alternatives to Miller Chill.  Heck, before it came out, I used the Miller Lite with lime juice method (plus a little salt), for a poor man's Corona.  It's just nice to have the prep work done all done for you, right? 

So, has anyone else tried the Magic Hat #9 or the John Henry 3 Lick Spiker Ale I mentioned earlier?  I plan to toss back one of each during the Super Bowl tomorrow, chased by some homemade artichoke and spinach dip spread over bruchetta.  mmm..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on February 06, 2010, 10:24:40 PM
is #9 the hefe?  If so it wasnt my favorite, but one of their darker varieties is not to bad, but the number escapes me at the moment.  I myself am currently sitting down to with a black art black. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on February 07, 2010, 10:33:43 AM
I have had #9 a ton. Great beer. One of the few beers made with fruit I really like. The apricot taste is weird at first til you find out what it is. In fact, #9 is one of my session beers as you put down a ton.

I was out at a fundraiser at Lakefront last night and I forgot how good their Big Easy is. It is nice to have a Maibock out of season and the beer was just fantastic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on February 07, 2010, 02:58:32 PM
are any of you guys on beeradvocate.com? its a really cool site
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on February 14, 2010, 03:19:05 AM
I went to three cellars for the first time. It is an awesome place. All craft beer, and laid out by section, domestic, imported, and wisconsin for the mix-your-own sixer. Along with many other beers and wines.

Also they had 4 or 5 beers on tap including, amazingly, St. Bernerdus Abt. 12, which was absolutely incredible on tap. By far the best beer ive ever had on tap, and top two ever for me along with Rochefort 8.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on February 14, 2010, 10:18:55 AM
I went to three cellars for the first time. It is an awesome place. All craft beer, and laid out by section, domestic, imported, and wisconsin for the mix-your-own sixer. Along with many other beers and wines.

Also they had 4 or 5 beers on tap including, amazingly, St. Bernerdus Abt. 12, which was absolutely incredible on tap. By far the best beer ive ever had on tap, and top two ever for me along with Rochefort 8.

That is a very nice liquor store. The have a great selection. By far the best on the south side. I always find Discount to be a crap shoot of beer age.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on February 15, 2010, 08:20:41 AM
Tried a sampler of all the "Shipwrecked" beers that they brew in house in Door County.

Simply terrible.  Their water must be loaded with iron, because every beer and the water tasted like it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on February 15, 2010, 09:16:46 AM
Tried a sampler of all the "Shipwrecked" beers that they brew in house in Door County.

Simply terrible.  Their water must be loaded with iron, because every beer and the water tasted like it.

I concur.  and yes, the ground water in Door County has very high iron content.  Most homes have an iron filter system, or put up with the sulphur smell.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on February 16, 2010, 12:02:08 PM
Who's gonna stone up, and try to get some of this.

41%  :o  :o  :o  :o

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/16/worlds-strongest-beer-sco_n_463975.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: McMARQthy on February 16, 2010, 03:46:24 PM
Who's gonna stone up, and try to get some of this.

41%  :o  :o  :o  :o

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/16/worlds-strongest-beer-sco_n_463975.html

I have to stay away from high ABV beers, I'm used to drinking keystone light and such so when I drink higher ABV beers I initially take it slow and steady but once I'm drunk natural habit kicks in and the next thing I know I'm waking up at 4 AM on my couch not remembering past leaving for the USF game.  With all my cash gone and a huge bar tab to boot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Steve Buscemi on February 16, 2010, 03:50:37 PM
 Just had a lunchbox at Moes for the first time.

Not a beer, but very, very tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on March 02, 2010, 01:32:39 PM
[bump]

Went to the Nice Ash in waukesha. had some good CAO cigars and paired them with 3 Floyds Alpha King and Robert the Bruce on various nights. both great beers. Alpha king is a good pale ale. Robert the Bruce is a scotch ale and drinks like a meal. Pairs well with a mid to dark wrapped cigar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on March 02, 2010, 01:34:53 PM
[bump]

Went to the Nice Ash in waukesha. had some good CAO cigars and paired them with 3 Floyds Alpha King and Robert the Bruce on various nights. both great beers. Alpha king is a good pale ale. Robert the Bruce is a scotch ale and drinks like a meal. Pairs well with a mid to dark wrapped cigar.

I have never met a Scotch Ale that I liked.  I find them all to be, well... terrible.

Probably the only style of beer I intentionally avoid... well aside from berry/cherry/honey style beers.  They are far worse.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 02, 2010, 02:01:50 PM
I have never met a Scotch Ale that I liked.  I find them all to be, well... terrible.

Probably the only style of beer I intentionally avoid... well aside from berry/cherry/honey style beers.  They are far worse.

I am the same way EXCEPT for Robert the Bruce. I find almost all wood aged beers to be vile and it destroys perfectly good beer. Robert the Bruce is a little sweet but damn good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on March 02, 2010, 03:58:46 PM
I am the same way EXCEPT for Robert the Bruce. I find almost all wood aged beers to be vile and it destroys perfectly good beer. Robert the Bruce is a little sweet but damn good.

with me, im not sure it is the barrel that ruins it for me... I love Rocky's Revenge by Tyranena... and that is in Bourbon bottles.

granted I can only have about 2 or 3 before its too sweet... but I do like those.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 02, 2010, 04:40:12 PM
I'm the same way with Scotch Ales... I think they're just too malty for me. I had Robert the Bruce and it was tolerable, but it's just not my style of beer.

Had the O'So Lupulin Maximus over the weekend... holy hell. Fantastic stuff. Also had my first Blonde Doppelbock from Capital. That beer is phenomenal. Best one they make, IMO.

Ranger IPA from New Belgium was a surprise to me. I didn't think they'd make a hop bomb, but it was incredibly hoppy from start to finish. Not a Hopslam, but it had some balls.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 02, 2010, 04:51:12 PM
Ranger IPA from New Belgium was a surprise to me. I didn't think they'd make a hop bomb, but it was incredibly hoppy from start to finish. Not a Hopslam, but it had some balls.

To me it is a muted Two Hearted - which isn't a bad thing. Had the same hop characteristics but wasn't quite as biting. I liked it. I believe you can get it in cans too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on March 02, 2010, 05:04:42 PM
I am the same way EXCEPT for Robert the Bruce. I find almost all wood aged beers to be vile and it destroys perfectly good beer. Robert the Bruce is a little sweet but damn good.

Agree. I didn't like Water street's Scotch Ale which I think they just debuted this season, but that Robert the Bruce and a CAO American just mixed perfectly
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 10, 2010, 09:32:38 AM
I made a beer trade with a friend in Spokane and have recently enjoyed:

Beer Valley's Leafer Madness
Green Flash's West Coast IPA
Green Flash's Hop Head Red Ale
Midnight Sun's Meltdown Double IPA

still to open:
Midnight Sun Obliteration VI
Green Flash Barleywine
Moylan's Moylander Double IPA
Pliny the Elder (need to compare to a batch I brewed of this)

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j293/Homebrew101/TTD%20linked%20pics/Picture114.jpg)

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j293/Homebrew101/TTD%20linked%20pics/Picture111.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on March 10, 2010, 08:53:13 PM
I am so jealous right now
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 11, 2010, 09:43:28 AM
Had Lakefront's Fixed Gear on tap at Wolski's this past weekend. Not too shabby. Decent malty backbone you'd expect in a Red, but had more hops/flowery notes to it. I'll have to give this one it's proper attention one night.

Also tried Magic Hat Vinyl, their Spring lager. Not a high ABV beer, but it had a pretty deep toasty flavor to it, and finished with some light fruity notes. For a "spring" beer I expected something a little bit lighter, but this one had a really nice depth to it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on March 11, 2010, 10:46:45 AM
I've heard rumors that New Glarus is releasing an IPA or Pale Ale soon. I'm not a huge fan of them in princple, but I also think spotted cow is a bit overrated. Tasty? yes and I'm happy to drink it but I don't draw wood over it. I was never a fan of fat squirrel or dancing man either. but I digress. I'm a HUGE IPA fan so I'm going to try it. tough to top Lakefront's IPA, or Alpha King

on a different note: I always get tricked into a fat tire. It's a good beer but i feel like I'm drinking pollen and have to run it through a filter. I am also afraid I will have an allergy attack from it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on March 11, 2010, 10:59:01 AM
Had Lakefront's Fixed Gear on tap at Wolski's this past weekend. Not too shabby. Decent malty backbone you'd expect in a Red, but had more hops/flowery notes to it. I'll have to give this one it's proper attention one night.

Also tried Magic Hat Vinyl, their Spring lager. Not a high ABV beer, but it had a pretty deep toasty flavor to it, and finished with some light fruity notes. For a "spring" beer I expected something a little bit lighter, but this one had a really nice depth to it.

If you can find it, get Lakefront's BURNING BRIDGE.

delicious and potent.  I 'like' a lot of Lakefront's beer, but this was one I LOVED.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 11, 2010, 12:45:26 PM
I've heard rumors that New Glarus is releasing an IPA or Pale Ale soon.

Moon Man

http://www.newglarusbrewing.com/Headlines.cfm?NewsID=155

Paws for Reflection with New Glarus Brewing Company's 'Moon Man' No Coast Pale Ale.

New Glarus, WI
March 9th, 2010:

Daniel Carey (Diploma Master Brewer, New Glarus Brewing Company) is adept at expanding what we know (or think we know) about beer. He continues to challenge flavor possibilities unveiling "Moon Man" No-Coast Pale Ale. Dan is a huge fan of 'big' IPA's and their powerful intense aromatics. It is thought that the popularity of the poignant aromas in big IPA's are a reaction to the all too prevalent bland beers. However, these same large flavors and aromas make this particular style too intense for many. Some months ago, in well known Daniel Carey fashion, he set out to brew an idea in his head, hoping to pack all the wonderful and powerful aromatics and flavors that he loves in big IPA's into a sessionable brew that all can enjoy. New Glarus Brewing Company takes one small step, and helps all their friends take one giant leap toward bridging the gap between these two extremes. As Daniel Carey says, "If big IPA's were a reaction to bland beer, Moon Man is a reaction to extremism."

True to style, Daniel took his time ensuring this ground breaking brew is exactly what it should be. He personally oversaw the hop harvest in the fields of Washington. He spent over 6 months painstakingly perfecting the hop blend alone. Finally utilizing 5 varieties of hops, of which three are not commonly used in American style ales. "Moon Man" is dry hopped 2 and a 1/2 times as much as is commonly practiced in dry hopped beer (2.25 pounds per barrel). It is powerfully aromatic, and pale golden in color. Like most of New Glarus Brewing Company's brews, it is bottle fermented the old fashioned way, meaning there is no artificial carbonation. Don't let this one lay around, it is brewed to be enjoyed today. Bold and engaging without pretense, because in Wisconsin you do not have to be extreme to be real. Just be.

This beer is named after a seriously cool cat, who found his 'forever' home with Jared, a brewer at New Glarus Brewing Company. Moon Man-the-Cat is so easygoing and confident that even 'dog' people love him and this love is genuinely reciprocated. While the lineage of Moon Man-the-Cat is unknown due to his 'alley' origins, Moon Man-the-Cat is a friend to all. He takes no heed of the background of his new companions (or even whether they walk on two, or four feet). Jared oftentimes revels the brewery with tales of cat adventures. Moon Man-the-Cat is especially well known for being comfortable in his own skin, taking things as they come, and above all else, not trying too hard to impress. Perhaps this relaxed nature is what makes such a great impression on all those that he meets. It is in appreciation of the special bond that these two share, and in honor of all those that share an easygoing affection with their four legged friends, that New Glarus Brewing Company's "Moon Man" No Coast IPA found its name. Thankfully, "Moon Man" No Coast Pale Ale shares it's namesake's roaming nature, and may be found throughout Wisconsin for the remainder of this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 12, 2010, 03:57:10 PM
I thought about not sharing this as my chances of scoring some increases the less people know but wth, for the beer lovers at muscoop why not.

March 13 is the release date of Founders KBS this year. I have a friend that lives near Founders and is picking up 2 cases tomorrow. It won't hit the shelves here until Monday or later but get it quick cuz it won't last long if last year is any example.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on March 12, 2010, 04:11:56 PM
I thought about not sharing this as my chances of scoring some increases the less people know but wth, for the beer lovers at muscoop why not.

March 13 is the release date of Founders KBS this year. I have a friend that lives near Founders and is picking up 2 cases tomorrow. It won't hit the shelves here until Monday or later but get it quick cuz it won't last long if last year is any example.


Thanks for the heads up.  Placing my order now with my connection.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on March 12, 2010, 05:02:27 PM
I thought about not sharing this as my chances of scoring some increases the less people know but wth, for the beer lovers at muscoop why not.

March 13 is the release date of Founders KBS this year. I have a friend that lives near Founders and is picking up 2 cases tomorrow. It won't hit the shelves here until Monday or later but get it quick cuz it won't last long if last year is any example.

Is that the one brewed in maple barrels? I love the breakfast stout and this one sounds amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on March 13, 2010, 12:15:05 AM
bourbon barrels.  I havent had it yet either only the BS but am quite anxious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 13, 2010, 10:17:34 AM
Is that the one brewed in maple barrels? I love the breakfast stout and this one sounds amazing.

Maple barrels is the Canadian Breakfast Stout which I believe is only available on draft at the brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on March 13, 2010, 01:34:40 PM
and sounds amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 15, 2010, 09:13:51 AM
from a friend that went to Founders Brewery on Saturday to pick up 2 cases of KBS:

Got to Founders at 9:30 am and was 79th in line. People started lining up at 6 am. By the time the doors opened at 11 am, there were about 100-150 people behind me. They doubled the amount of cases from last year so there were about 280 cases. Got mine just before noon and sat down for lunch and a beer or four. Had people from all over the midwest that drove up to the brewery. Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin and more I'm sure. They were serving 2009 and 2010 KBS on regular draft and nitro. Since I had 2 cases of KBS, I opted for the Canadian Breakfast Stout (maple and bourbon aged), The Chronic (a double dry hopped pale ale), Hand of Doom (DIPA aged in bourbon barrels) and finished off with a Spite Pepper Ale (very hot and spicy!). The line was still out the door when they sold out. A 40 foot wide, 6 foot high wall of KBS annihilated in under 2 hours. Over $30,000. WOW! When I left around 2, there were still hoardes of people still there eating and drinking with there stacks of KBS cases. Place was a mad house. But what fun it was.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 16, 2010, 01:03:42 PM
picked up 12 bottles of Founders KBS and 2 bottles of Founders Nemesis yesterday at Discount

the Nemesis was OK but I wouldn't buy it again ($6/bottle)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 16, 2010, 01:16:08 PM
picked up 12 bottles of Founders KBS and 2 bottles of Founders Nemesis yesterday at Discount

the Nemesis was OK but I wouldn't buy it again ($6/bottle)

I still don't get why they ruin all that great Breakfast Stout by sticking it in Bourbon barrels. And the weird thing is, I am a HUGE whiskey fan (including bourbon) and love it neat - but not with my beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on March 18, 2010, 04:57:54 PM
Anybody who is in St. Paul this weekend should check out the cask conditioned Firkin Fest.

http://thehappygnome.com/2010/01/catherines-birthday/

Breweries currently preparing firkins for the event:

Avery Maharaja Imperial IPA
Avery Überschwein Barley Wine
Bell’s Expedition Stout
Bell’s Hop Slam Imperial IPA
Big Sky Stone Thrower Scotch Ale
Boulder Beer Flashback India Brown Ale
Boulder Beer Mojo Risin’ Double IPA
Brau Brothers Double Dry Hopped Sheephead Ale
Brau Brothers Elisha’s Old Ale
Breckenridge Lucky U IPA
Crispin Clyde: the Original
Dark Horse Double Crooked Tree IPA
Dark Horse Plead the 5th Russian Imperial Stout
Flat Earth Big Money: Oak Aged Cygnus Porter
Flat Earth Double Dry Hopped Angry Planet
Flat Earth Northwest Passage IPA
Flying Dog Doggy Style Pale Ale
Flying Dog Gonzo Imperial Porter
Founder’s Double Dry Hopped Red’s Rye P.A.
Fox Barrel Cidery Bonnie: Spicy Ginger & Black Currant.
Fulton Sweet Child of Vine IPA
Fulton War and Peace Russian Imperial Stout with Peace Coffee
Fulton Worthy Adversary Imperial Stout
Furthermore Knot Stock Black Pepper Pale Ale
Goose Island Citra Hop IPA
Goose Island Nightstalker Imperial Stout
Grand Tetons Lost Continent Double IPA
Great Divide Hercules Double IPA
Great Divide Oak Aged Yeti Stout Infused with Espresso
Harviestoun Ola Dubh 18 yr
Harviestoun Ola Dubh 30 yr
Lagunitas New Dogtown Pale Ale
Lake Superior Minnesota Special
Lake Superior Sir Duluth Cocoa Oatmeal Stout
Lake Superior Strong, Dark, and Handsome
Left Hand 400 Pound Monkey IPA
Lift Bridge Chestnut Hill: “A La Nutsack”
Lift Bridge Crosscut Pale Ale: “Ol’ Pine Box”
Lift Bridge Farm Girl Saison: “Honey Ginger Girl”
New Belgium “Shadow of the Foerder” blend of 1554 and La Folie
New Holland Pilgrim’s Dole
Rogue Amarillo Dry Hopped American Amber Ale
Rogue Chocolate Stout
Rogue Shakespeare Stout
Rush River Bubblejack IPA
Rush River Chocolate Oatmeal Stout
Rush River Winter Warmer
Schell’s Hopfenmalz Kellerbier
Schell’s Oak Aged Stout
Southern Tier Unearthly IPA
Sprecher Abbey Tripel Witbier with coriander and orange peel
Summit EPA dry hopped with Chinook
Summit Oatmeal Stout with East Kent Goldings
Summit Winter dry hopped with Ahtanum
Surly Cynic: Oak Aged, Dry Hopped
Surly 2010 Darkness: Oak Aged, Dry Hopped
Surly Mild
Surly Tea-bagged Furious
Two Brothers Bare Tree Weiss Wine
Two Brothers Cane and Ebel
Tyranena Benji’s Smoked Imperial Chipotle Porter
Victory Hop Wallop
Victory Storm King Imperial Stout
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 22, 2010, 09:46:21 AM
I tried a 3 Floyds Behemoth last night. I really liked it except for the $14/bottle price.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: paddyquakes on March 22, 2010, 03:38:24 PM
I'm new to this beer taste testing thing.  Don't you simply enter a pub, start on the left and work your way across the tappers?  Just asking  hic !   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on March 24, 2010, 09:31:30 PM
I tried a 3 Floyds Behemoth last night. I really liked it except for the $14/bottle price.

Have you had the Central Waters Y2K barleywine? If so, how would you say they compare?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 25, 2010, 11:23:13 AM
Have you had the Central Waters Y2K barleywine? If so, how would you say they compare?

I haven't tried that one
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on March 25, 2010, 11:33:27 AM
I am going to this event this weekend.  Jealous?  You should be.

http://nerax.org/nerax/

   
NERAX is organized by CASC, the Cask-Conditioned Ale Support Campaign. CASC is an all-volunteer organization dedicated to boosting awareness of and demand for Real Ale in New England.

The New England Real Ale Exhibition, benefiting the VFW, is held each spring at the George Dilboy Post, Davis Square, Somerville, MA.

NERAX 2010 is our 14th Festival. As in 2009, we plan on offering over 80 firkins of Real Ale. Half U.K. beers from England, Scotland, and Wales; and half American beers from New England. All the beers are cask-conditioned, served by gravity or hand-pump.

Link to all the American Casks:  http://nerax.org/nerax/cgi-bin/american.asp

And the UK ones: http://nerax.org/nerax/cgi-bin/british.asp

And the German Ones: http://nerax.org/nerax/cgi-bin/german.asp
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on March 25, 2010, 12:11:56 PM
I am very jealous.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on March 29, 2010, 12:44:02 PM
 Went to a place called the Beer Bistro in Chicago this weekend, tried many beers but I had a Goose Island Country Bourbon Stout that is aged in bourbon barrels. It was 13% alcohol and was a sipping beer, good and actually reasonable. Reasonable meaning you get fairly drunk off of it for the price. I think it was $9, I recommend the Beer Bistro to anyone in the Chicago area they have a rotating list of approximatly 100-120 beers.

World Beer Cup Recognition:
Judging Category: Barrel Aged Beer
2006: Gold Medal
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 29, 2010, 06:43:07 PM
Had a couple bottles of the KBS... I think it was more bourbony than I remembered last year, but still damn tasty. Love how the aging brings out the vanilla notes along with chocolate and coffee. Delicious.

Had a few first-timers this weekend:

Tyranena Smoked Imperial Porter w/Chipotle Pepper- Went the single bottle route since the chipotle was a bit unsettling. But I had to try it. And I am so glad I did. Really delicious porter. Smokiness was subtle, sweet chocolate notes, incredibly smooth texture, and just a hint of spice at the finish. Incredibly balanced for the complexity. One of those beers that is a work of art.

Furthermore Makeweight- Described as "a mashup of English, American, and Beligian Pale Ales" and that was about right. Didn't particularly care for it, the styles didn't particularly play well, IMO. Not very drinkable, and had a funky finish. Love their creativity, but this one was a swing and a miss I think.

New Glarus Cherry Stout- Had high hopes for this beer, and was a bit disappointed. The cherry was there, pretty sweet with some oaky tones to it. But it really lacked in the stout characteristics, almost nothing there. You could put down a few of these, but ultimately it was too sweet for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on March 29, 2010, 07:09:36 PM

New Glarus Cherry Stout- Had high hopes for this beer, and was a bit disappointed. The cherry was there, pretty sweet with some oaky tones to it. But it really lacked in the stout characteristics, almost nothing there. You could put down a few of these, but ultimately it was too sweet for me.

I agree, this was all cherry - no stout. Way too sweet for my tastes. I have very high hopes for the Alt. and Apple Ale that they are releasing later this year though. Also, the road slush porter was a very good oatmeal stout imo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 31, 2010, 08:08:26 AM
I also have tried a NG Cherry stout and thought it was too sweet. I make my own cherry stout every winter using 5 lbs. of Door County unsweetened cherries and am used to a much more subtle cherry flavor.

Stopped in the Sugar Maple last night and they currently have KBS and Dog Fish Head Burton Baton on tap. The DFH is an oak aged IIPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUFC9295 on April 02, 2010, 11:07:33 AM
Beer Fest in the Chicago burbs... great chance to taste a number of varieties from brewers near and some far.

http://www.durtynellies.com/beerfest.asp
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on April 02, 2010, 02:11:57 PM
Dark Horse Brewery

Their Scotty Karate scotch ale is better than Robert The Bruce (and I really like Robert the Bruce)

Their Crooked Tree IPA has a bunch of flavor

Every winter they release five different stouts.  I don't know all of them, but there is at least a Cream, and Imperial, a Smoked, and a Blueberry Stout.  The Blueberry Stout is not a fruity beer at all, and the Cream Stout is really smooth.

I'll keep checking out their beers based on this.  Also, they don't like Nickelback.

http://www.fermentationnation.com/2010/03/dark-horse-brewing-courted-by-canadian.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on April 03, 2010, 08:08:09 PM
had my first KBS, was fantastic.  Was a little irritated that the store i purchased from only allowed 2 bottles per person.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on April 05, 2010, 08:56:05 PM
I visited the New Glarus brewery this morning. It is an amazing facility and a really cool location up in the hills of New Glarus. You drive up a long dirt road, and the brewery has a pretty good view of the city. They have a free "self guided" tour, which basically allows you to walk around the brewery and look at everything. Also, for $3.50 you get three fills of beer, and you get to keep the glass. All of the employees were very nice and quick to answer questions. I recommend stopping by if you're in the area. Its amazing how you can detect the unique smells of  different NG beers as you move throughout the brewery.

On-tap they had Belgian Red, Road Slush, Golden Ale, Moon Man, Spotted Cow, and Two Women.

Two Women is a Bohemian Lager, and it is only available at the brewery. Basically, Dan said that he brewed it for him to drink because it is his favorite style, it just became available last week. I had it on tap and it was amazing, very creamy and smooth, easily the best lager I've ever had. He said that he used "a small run of a straight up Czech Style Pilsner made with Bohemian Floor Malt + 100% Hallertau Mittlefrueh Hops". This doesn't mean very much to me, but it might to someone who knows more about brewing.  I bought a couple bottles to take home as well ($5 per 16 ounce bottle). "Two Women Lager will be sold in the 500 ml German Euro Bottle same as the R&D simply because that's the traditional way in German". The bottles have cool hand-written labels.

Btw those quotes are all straight from Dan

Edit: forgot to mention that they have a beer cellar type of thing with just about every NG beer you could want, including 4-5 of the unplugged series.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on April 08, 2010, 09:37:18 AM
had my first KBS, was fantastic.  Was a little irritated that the store i purchased from only allowed 2 bottles per person.

that does suck but when there are probably less than a dozen cases available for the entire state of WI what can you expect?

when it first went on sale, Discount allowed a 4 pack/person limit - it's now down to a single bottle limit but they still had some last week

also, it helps to develope a relationship with the 'beer guy/girl' at a good liquor store and you might be able to score 3 or 4 four packs, don't ask me how I know if this really happens  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 11, 2010, 03:54:18 PM
Enjoying a few New Glarus Moon Man's while I watch The Masters. Damn good beer from them. Pours a hazy gold color, due to the bottle fermentation. Heavy hop aroma, but an easy drinking pale ale. Hop bitterness comes through a bit at the finish, but the main characteristics are citrus and malty notes. Lighter than an IPA, but really tasty.

This will be a perfect summer session beer. Clean, refreshing, and very drinkable. NG did good work with this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on April 14, 2010, 07:15:48 PM
I visited the New Glarus brewery this morning. It is an amazing facility and a really cool location up in the hills of New Glarus. You drive up a long dirt road, and the brewery has a pretty good view of the city. They have a free "self guided" tour, which basically allows you to walk around the brewery and look at everything. Also, for $3.50 you get three fills of beer, and you get to keep the glass. All of the employees were very nice and quick to answer questions. I recommend stopping by if you're in the area. Its amazing how you can detect the unique smells of  different NG beers as you move throughout the brewery.

On-tap they had Belgian Red, Road Slush, Golden Ale, Moon Man, Spotted Cow, and Two Women.

Two Women is a Bohemian Lager, and it is only available at the brewery. Basically, Dan said that he brewed it for him to drink because it is his favorite style, it just became available last week. I had it on tap and it was amazing, very creamy and smooth, easily the best lager I've ever had. He said that he used "a small run of a straight up Czech Style Pilsner made with Bohemian Floor Malt + 100% Hallertau Mittlefrueh Hops". This doesn't mean very much to me, but it might to someone who knows more about brewing.  I bought a couple bottles to take home as well ($5 per 16 ounce bottle). "Two Women Lager will be sold in the 500 ml German Euro Bottle same as the R&D simply because that's the traditional way in German". The bottles have cool hand-written labels.

Btw those quotes are all straight from Dan

Edit: forgot to mention that they have a beer cellar type of thing with just about every NG beer you could want, including 4-5 of the unplugged series.

I have to give a disclaimer. Two women is not nearly as good out of the bottle as it was on tap. With that said... DAMN moon man is good!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 14, 2010, 08:14:21 PM
New season for Oberon.    Always a cause for celebration.   New Holland Sun Dog Amber almost as good. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on April 15, 2010, 05:28:37 PM
Its not about beer per se, and a lot of you will probably say that Miller Lite is piss water, but those Aluminum Can radio commercials I heard during the brewers games are AWESOME
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 15, 2010, 06:28:29 PM
Its not about beer per se, and a lot of you will probably say that Miller Lite is piss water, but those Aluminum Can radio commercials I heard during the brewers games are AWESOME

"Are you less than friends with a girl? Then she's a stranger. Stop staring, creepo."

That line makes me laugh every time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on April 15, 2010, 08:11:24 PM
New season for Oberon.    Always a cause for celebration.   New Holland Sun Dog Amber almost as good. 
Yes, Oberon is the absolute bomb diggity dog in the summer...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 15, 2010, 11:35:33 PM
Yes, Oberon is the absolute bomb diggity dog in the summer...

Oberon is overrated IMO. Just like Spotted Cow. Fatty Boomblatty is a great summer beer though. So is Three Floyds Drunken Monk which I had last weekend.

Only 9 days til Dark Lord Day!!!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on April 22, 2010, 11:21:13 AM
Had a Captial Brewery "Supper Club"

Tastes like Miller.

Good to sip one while grilling, but I won't be buying another 6 pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on April 23, 2010, 09:32:33 AM
Fort Collins Brewery:
Any recommendations from their line of beers, as my local grocery store just started carrying it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on April 23, 2010, 09:48:11 AM
Oberon has never done much for me, it's OK but nothing I'll write home about...

I tried the Central Waters Bourbon Barrel Stout last night, very tasty, strong bourbon flavor but it doesn't have the wonderful complexity of flavors Founders KBS does although it is cheaper, going by memory I thought it was similar to how I remember Goose Island Bourbon County stout was.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 23, 2010, 10:49:53 AM
Anyone one else going to Dark Lord Days tomorrow at Three Floyds?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on April 23, 2010, 11:51:38 AM
Anyone one else going to Dark Lord Days tomorrow at Three Floyds?

I would love too, but sadly not this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on April 30, 2010, 04:48:37 PM
Drinking a Lagunitas Wilco Tango Foxtrot (WTF).

pretty good.  Its a limited release Ale.  Not hoppy, just lots of malty taste.  Nothing too special.  Just a good overall beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on May 01, 2010, 01:37:14 PM
12 oz. Can of Miller Lite, on the beach in 80* weather.  They taste like Jesus.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 02, 2010, 10:12:24 PM
Had a Captial Brewery "Supper Club"

Tastes like Miller.

Good to sip one while grilling, but I won't be buying another 6 pack.

Kind of a micro-macro. I bought a six pack yesterday of this. My thought was it tasted like a High Life, but from better ingredients. For a session beer, I think it serves it's purpose well. I enjoyed it.

I can see an issue though. It's their best selling beer at the brewery, but I can see that being a result of people wanting a familiar, more approachable beer than the other styles. But, if I'm looking at a $3 difference between a six pack of High Life and Supper Club, I'm probably going with the High Life.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 05, 2010, 12:02:16 AM
Was in the mood for something summerish the other night after golf, and picked up a six pack of Flying Dog's In Heat Wheat. Pretty solid hefeweizen. Has all the right flavors, light, fairly carbonated. A good summer session beer, and one to help pass the time until Dancing Man comes out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on May 06, 2010, 10:53:12 AM
I picked up a four pack of Dark Horse Brewing's special Double Crooked Tree IPA.  They literally double everything in the recipe but the water, and the end result is a kickass 13% ABV beer.  However, unlike the GI Bourbon County Stout, it doesn't have that overwhelming alcohol taste.  This is a big, bold beer with huge flavor, and one of them is going in the cellar for next year.  The only downside is that it's a premium price ($15 / 4 pack).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 06, 2010, 10:55:09 AM
mmmm I need to find this beer in the Madison area...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on May 06, 2010, 11:00:12 AM
mmmm I need to find this beer in the Madison area...

http://www.darkhorsebrewery.com/content.asp?PageName=Distributors
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 06, 2010, 11:23:43 AM
so basically, drive to Milwaukee.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: State Street Warrior on May 06, 2010, 10:36:05 PM
This just seems like overkill but some Scottish guys are now brewing 41% alcohol beer, (sink the Bismark).  Although their 32% Tactical Nuclear Penguin has one of the greatest beer names.

http://www.latimes.com/features/food/la-fo-coldbeer-20100506,0,2547965,full.story

Anyone up for a month long case race?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on May 07, 2010, 01:45:00 PM
I looked at these last week and it piqued my interest and I might pick these up. Ola Dubh, they have a 12,16,30 and a 40. These are ole ales aged in casks that contained scotch. For instance the 30 is aged in casks once containing 30YO Highland single malt.

Anyone ever try these?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on May 09, 2010, 03:34:17 PM
Just had the new New Glarus Enigma. Just a heads up, enigma is at discount, along with a little iced barleywine. They haven't had iced barleywine in about three months, so i'm not sure where they got it, but as of yesterday they had two 4 packs.

Back to the Enigma, this is an awesome, awesome beer. It is everything the cherry stout should have been and more. It starts as a cherry beer, and it is then aged in vanilla oak barrels. You can really pick up on the oak/vanilla/cherry/and some brown ale characteristics without any one part overpowering. I am definitely buying more of this masterpiece, Dan struck gold with this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: State Street Warrior on May 10, 2010, 11:41:24 AM
Fort Collins Brewery:
Any recommendations from their line of beers, as my local grocery store just started carrying it.

Do you mean New Belgium Brewery?  It is a brewery in Fort Collins that just expanded in the past year or so to WI and some other midwest areas.  They have some good ones, if you go to the brewery you can have a free beer tasting, they give you 4 beers of your choice about 6-8oz each, and they are free.  Also, they are big into the renewable energy kick, their entire brewery is run on wind power.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on May 10, 2010, 12:05:00 PM
Do you mean New Belgium Brewery?  ....

No, I do not. 

I am familar with New Belgium, after a recommendation from Hards.  ;)

Fort Collins Brewery is an entirely different company.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 10, 2010, 12:07:58 PM
No, I do not. 

I am familar with New Belgium, after a recommendation from Hards.  ;)

Fort Collins Brewery is an entirely different company.



swill.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on May 11, 2010, 08:50:36 AM
Just had the new New Glarus Enigma. Just a heads up, enigma is at discount, along with a little iced barleywine. They haven't had iced barleywine in about three months, so i'm not sure where they got it, but as of yesterday they had two 4 packs.
Back to the Enigma, this is an awesome, awesome beer. It is everything the cherry stout should have been and more. It starts as a cherry beer, and it is then aged in vanilla oak barrels. You can really pick up on the oak/vanilla/cherry/and some brown ale characteristics without any one part overpowering. I am definitely buying more of this masterpiece, Dan struck gold with this one.

thanks for the heads up, I cleaned out their iced barleywines last nite  ;)(have about 15 left in the cellar)


did try an Enigma, that will be great on a hot day IMO
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on May 17, 2010, 10:55:50 AM
Had some Two Brothers Domaine DuPage this weekend.  As stated before, Two Brothers is the local brewery out here in the western burbs of Chicagoland.  They have tried to focus on making lesser known styles of beer.  For example, Two Bros only released a standard IPA in April, and even that is oak-aged.

Anyways, Domaine DuPage is a French Countryside Ale.  Higher in malt, low bitterness, but still enough hops to make it crisp.  It was great with food.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on May 17, 2010, 11:26:00 AM
2010 Milwaukee Brewfest

http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=100778959968255&ref=ts

Just saw this. Seems a bit steep, but a decent amount of breweries. Think they'll let designated drivers in for free?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 17, 2010, 11:44:00 AM
Had two new ones this weekend.

First was the Magic Hat Wacko. Very interesting beer, pours a bright red color with a white head. Kind of thin mouthfeel with dry, grainy flavors. Sweetened a bit by beet sugar, which gave it the unique color. It's not a bad summer drinker, as it's pretty light and not terribly bitter.

Then I had Great Lakes Holy Moses. It's ther summer witbier, and not what I expected at all. It was typical of a belgian wheat in many ways, except very spicy. Apparently they added chamomile to it, which gave it kind of a funky taste. Didn't enjoy this one all that much.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on May 20, 2010, 08:02:42 AM
Beer related story.

I own some stock in Black Art Beer(BLVI), and recently a buddy (also a shareholder) called the company to ask where we could buy a shirt...


6 days later he received a box in the mail with 23 shirts and 4 hats.

I was impressed, as I could never imagine a major beer company doing this for a couple guys that collectively own a very small number of shares.



As for their beer: the Black Lager is good and would compare it to a Shiner Black or 1554.  The Gold Lager is marginal at best and I would not recommend it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 20, 2010, 10:02:44 PM
Got a free bottle of Grain Belt tonight. Still trying to figure out why you crazy Minnesotans rave about it so. I mean it's not bad, but nothin to write home about.

Also had the Madtown Nutbrown from Ale Asylum for the first time. Very, very good. Full flavored, smooth finish, very drinkable and not the least bit bitter. I've yet to have a bad beer from them yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 20, 2010, 10:24:37 PM
Got a free bottle of Grain Belt tonight. Still trying to figure out why you crazy Minnesotans rave about it so. I mean it's not bad, but nothin to write home about.

Also had the Madtown Nutbrown from Ale Asylum for the first time. Very, very good. Full flavored, smooth finish, very drinkable and not the least bit bitter. I've yet to have a bad beer from them yet.

Its a sweeter High Life, that is all. It's a good summer beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on May 24, 2010, 09:21:29 AM
Avery Brewing's Salvation Ale - Their Belgian-style Ale.  Meh.

More Two Brothers! - Their Dog Days Dortmunder Style Lager.  It's a seasonal release.  I really liked this one, and think it's a great summer beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PBRme on May 25, 2010, 02:30:16 PM
Had the Brewery Ommegang Triple on draft at Sugar Maple - delish
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on May 25, 2010, 03:14:17 PM
Got a free bottle of Grain Belt tonight. Still trying to figure out why you crazy Minnesotans rave about it so.

I have lived here for 15 years and I have never heard anyone who lives here rave about it or even say it is very good.  I would compare GB's loyal drinkers here to Old Style drinkers in Chicago, where I am from.  Nothing special at all.

Its a sweeter High Life, that is all. It's a good summer beer.

It is sweeter and has a hint of caramel.  A good summer beer for some but not for me.

Grain Belt is being brewed by the Schell's Brewery in New Ulm, MN after almost going out of business about 8 years ago. Schell's saved it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 25, 2010, 04:59:42 PM
I have lived here for 15 years and I have never heard anyone who lives here rave about it or even say it is very good.  I would compare GB's loyal drinkers here to Old Style drinkers in Chicago, where I am from.  Nothing special at all. It is sweeter and has a hint of caramel.  A good summer beer for some but not for me.

Grain Belt is being brewed by the Schell's Brewery in New Ulm, MN after almost going out of business about 8 years ago. Schell's saved it.

Fair enough. To be honest the people I've heard talk about it were people from MN who were in Milwaukee. Must be like me and Yuengling. Tastes better when you only get it every now and then.

Had Surly's IPA when I was up there this past weekend. Pretty good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on May 25, 2010, 05:15:33 PM
Fair enough. To be honest the people I've heard talk about it were people from MN who were in Milwaukee. Must be like me and Yuengling. Tastes better when you only get it every now and then.

Had Surly's IPA when I was up there this past weekend. Pretty good stuff.

Surly Abrasive (9.7% ABV) is a pretty good beer also.  Seasonal that comes out in April and is gone by the beginning of May.  I am betting you had the Furious...also good stuff...and their most popular beer.

I have a handful of friends who own bars here and some have Surly and some don't.  They actually have a 3-6 month wait list for a tavern/liquor store to be able to stock their beer, sometimes longer.

http://www.surlybrewing.com/beer/surly-beer-find-bars.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 28, 2010, 04:07:18 PM
I know it isn't new, and I realize I am eating crow on this one, but New Belgium's "Mighty Arrow" is actually really good.

Ale Asylum's Trappist IPA, "Bedlam" is a cant miss.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on May 29, 2010, 08:35:42 AM
Looking for a good Summer Ale, any suggestions?  I have had the Sam Adams version and enjoy it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on May 29, 2010, 09:18:39 AM
Looking for a good Summer Ale, any suggestions?  I have had the Sam Adams version and enjoy it.

Shipyard makes a great one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on May 29, 2010, 09:20:27 AM
Shipyard makes a great one.
available nationally?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on May 30, 2010, 05:16:50 AM
I was just lucky enough to snag two bottles of Pliny the Elder, one bottle of Supplication, and one bottle of Iron Horse Quilter's Irish Death.

For those of you who don't know, pliny and supplication are two of the most sought after beers in america, and they are rated 7 and 14 respectively in the world.

I drank one of the pliny's, and while it is a great beer I think it is slightly overrated. I mean, it is not THAT much better than other ipa's such as celebration, two-hearted, etc. That said, it is definitely a world class beer, amazingly hopy and smooth. For such a strong beer, you could really drink these all day.

I am very excited to finally get my hands on supplication, and I will be saving that one for a special occasion.

The Irish Death is an imperial stout that is supposed to be quite sweet almost like an oatmeal/milk stout.


http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/863/7971

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/863/22227/?sort=latest&start=0

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/11212/38703
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on May 30, 2010, 05:19:19 AM
Looking for a good Summer Ale, any suggestions?  I have had the Sam Adams version and enjoy it.

Sierra Nevada makes a pretty good one too. You should be able to find it no problem.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on May 31, 2010, 07:11:12 PM
Surly Abrasive (9.7% ABV) is a pretty good beer also.  Seasonal that comes out in April and is gone by the beginning of May.  I am betting you had the Furious...also good stuff...and their most popular beer.

I don't know about MUfan12, but my workplace just recently acquired both some Abrasive and Furious (yeah, I know...cool).  Only tried the Abrasive so far, and it was very good.  Not nearly as harsh as the name might imply.

I was just lucky enough to snag two bottles of Pliny the Elder, one bottle of Supplication, and one bottle of Iron Horse Quilter's Irish Death.

In Colorado we're blessed to have quite a few places that serve a number of highly sought after brews on tap - Falling rock Tap House in Denver is phenomenal.    However, oskar blues homemade liquids & solids in my hometown of Longmont has 43 awesome guest taps including Pliny the Elder (here's their full beer list  (http://www.oskarblues.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/HMLS_beer_Oct2009.pdf?phpMyAdmin=e5MPP6G9p%2CcSfTh0arpUC2DJc9a)).  Anyhow, if you ever get a chance to drink out this way, I highly suggest stopping at a couple of these places - with a designated driver of course!

Can't beat having some of these beers on tap.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on June 07, 2010, 01:19:55 AM
Just picked up a bottle of The Abyss. Has anyone tried this beast? I'm debating whether to drink it now or cellar it for a year or so.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on June 08, 2010, 10:26:32 AM
Anyone try the new Bud Light Wheat yet?  I am guessing it is so-so, but that is simply based on 75% of their product line falling into that category.

I was wrong about this beer.  To call it so-so would be an insult to mediocre beers everywhere.
 :-\

I guess "clever" commercials do not equal good beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 21, 2010, 02:48:44 PM
I was saddened Friday night at the Sugar Maple to learn the DFH Palo Santo was gone but then I tried Upland's Double Dragonfly DIPA - I liked that one quite a bit, had not tried any Upland brews before
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on June 21, 2010, 02:55:57 PM
Surly Brewing's owner won the region's Ernst and Young award.

Omar Ansari won the E&Y award in the Consumer Products category in the Upper Midwest Category (MN, WI and the Dakotas). This makes him eligible to compete for the national awards, which will be handed out in November.

http://mnbeer.com/2010/06/10/entrepreneur-of-the-year/

http://www.surlybrewing.com/index.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 21, 2010, 03:56:29 PM
I was saddened Friday night at the Sugar Maple to learn the DFH Palo Santo was gone but then I tried Upland's Double Dragonfly DIPA - I liked that one quite a bit, had not tried any Upland brews before

Upland has quite a few really quality beers even though it comes from the land of Hoosiers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on June 28, 2010, 03:49:46 PM
Forgot to mention that I tried 2 of Ale Asylum's seasonals... a Trappist IPA called "Bedlam" and a Double IPA called "Satisfaction Jacksin"

Bedlam was great, Jacksin was so-so... nothing really stuck out about it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 28, 2010, 04:05:32 PM
I'm not a fan of New Holand's Dragons Milk but the oak aged/high gravity version that I had last night was very good IMO
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on July 03, 2010, 05:52:37 PM
What are you guys drinking for the 4th? I picked up some Sierra Nevada Torpedo and Pale Ale, Old Rasputin 4 pack, and a Widmer Brothers Mixed 12er.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on July 03, 2010, 07:20:06 PM
Just finished some Harpoon UFO (unfiltered weiss beer) and it seems a bit boring, but some old fashion PBR's out of the 16 oz., ice cold just hit the spot sometimes.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on July 04, 2010, 10:20:51 AM
sam adams summer ale and miller high life for the 4th.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on July 06, 2010, 01:48:43 PM
the Mrs. wanted to have lunch at Hooligan's yesterday so I managed to put a few Ale Asylum Bedlams down the hatch  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on July 06, 2010, 02:12:50 PM
happened upon some Magic Hat Wacko, and echoing what MUFan had said I guess it was fine.  theres not a lot there, the sweetness from the beets isnt overwhelming, which is good. but nothing really stands out from it other than its red-pink color and typical-for-Magic Hat extreme packaging and self aggrandizing.  not a bad choice though if your forced to encourage the wife/girlfriend/high priced prostitute to have a couple with you, thus preventing you from thinking too much about drinking alone for the third day in a row.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on July 12, 2010, 04:07:42 PM
I picked up a few bottles of Founders Devil Dancer (triple IPA @ 12%). $5/bottle at Discount makes this the same price as KBS. Although this is a very tasty brew, while the KBS is a unique style so I don't mind stocking up as much as possible (2 more bottles there Saturday!) the Devil Dancer is not what I would consider unique and it makes Hopslam look affordable.

I also talked to Discount's beer rep for Founders (and many brands), seems like he's always there Friday evenings, he said that Founders expanded 2 years ago by doubling capacity and they are doubling it again now but since they are also expanding their distribution territory supply is worse now than before. Last year he got 120 cases of Devil Dancer and this year only 40 cases, that's for the entire state of WI. Each Discount location got 1 case.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on July 12, 2010, 04:27:46 PM
Had New Belgium's Skinny Dip. Tasted like a watered down Fat Tire. Was supposed to be "light and citrusy" but had next to none of that.

I'm beginning to see the issues some had here with their beers. Unless they are making a certain style, their beers have a similar taste profile. That toasty, bready malt is great in Fat Tire, but not in the Blue Paddle Pilsner or Skinny Dip.

The beers I've liked from them all are kind of niche beers. 1554, Mothership Wit, and the Ranger IPA were all very good. But their styles didn't call for that bready malt characteristic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on July 12, 2010, 04:31:28 PM
Had a few Schell Zommerfest beers this weekend.  It was ok, but the bartender had told me if I liked summer ale style I would enjoy it.  It seemed to be missing the citrus component.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on July 12, 2010, 04:38:43 PM
I picked up a few bottles of Founders Devil Dancer (triple IPA @ 12%). $5/bottle at Discount makes this the same price as KBS. Although this is a very tasty brew, while the KBS is a unique style so I don't mind stocking up as much as possible (2 more bottles there Saturday!) the Devil Dancer is not what I would consider unique and it makes Hopslam look affordable.

I also talked to Discount's beer rep for Founders (and many brands), seems like he's always there Friday evenings, he said that Founders expanded 2 years ago by doubling capacity and they are doubling it again now but since they are also expanding their distribution territory supply is worse now than before. Last year he got 120 cases of Devil Dancer and this year only 40 cases, that's for the entire state of WI. Each Discount location got 1 case.

have you heard anything about them possibly distributing CBS in the future?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on July 13, 2010, 09:50:28 AM
have you heard anything about them possibly distributing CBS in the future?

no, the only of CBS I've ever heard is from a friend that lives near the brewery and has it on tap there like this Special Agent IPA last week

Tap Room BRAND NEW BEER: The Special Agent IPA (crafted by our very own, Johnny
Utah)...4 malts, 3 hops (Magnum, Simcoe, Centennial)...7.4% ABV and
secretly delicious, deceptively crisp...get after it! ONLY available in
the Founders Taproom...



(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q178/possessedbymetal/beer/IMG_2671.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on July 17, 2010, 01:34:23 AM
Awesome taps at Captain Mikes in kenosha friday night! If you are around and free tomorrow definitely worth the trip.

Their tap list includes (but not limited to)

Canadian Breakfast Stout (that is not a typo)
Founders Breakfast stout
Kentucky breakfast stout (not sure if it was tap or bottle - but someone had one in a glass)
Goose Island Night Stalker
Great Divide 16th Anniversary Wood Aged double IPA
Three Floyds Gumballhead
Robert the Bruce
Oaked Yeti
Mikkeller Amarillo Single Hop IPA

I know I am missing some great one's (there are over 30 beers on tap + over 100 in bottle). Get there quick if you want to try the CBS, it will be gone very soon they said. Also, they make some great burgers using kobe beef.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 06, 2010, 07:01:16 PM
Just had my first bottle of New Glarus' Enigma.

very strange.  Sour beer... almost a cider beer... but with cherries.

I can understand why there is a lot of demand for this beer, but I am only so so about it.

my wife loved it...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on August 06, 2010, 07:21:28 PM
Hards, where you been all summer!  You get married on us?

Disclaimer: I'm getting married a month from today ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 07, 2010, 08:17:51 AM
ha funny story, i worked underneath a different boss who was a slave driver for the last two months.

so basically no time for scoop!

congrats reinko!.. and I got married last year in sept. :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on August 30, 2010, 04:28:36 PM
Victory Brewing - brewery out of PA

Picked up their "Prima Pils" as a last gasp for summer brew.  Really a good crisp Pils. 

Also, I note that the beer fridges are now being filled with Octoberfest brews.  I am not ready for Octoberfest beer until after Labor Day.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on August 30, 2010, 04:29:21 PM
Separate question

If I were interested in doing some home brewing, any tips or pointers out there?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on September 01, 2010, 07:52:56 PM
friend of mine tried to the New Glarus Belgian Red Cherry Ale...awful. kind of like Cold medicine and berry weiss
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on September 01, 2010, 10:11:46 PM
friend of mine tried to the New Glarus Belgian Red Cherry Ale...awful. kind of like Cold medicine and berry weiss

If your talking about the belgian red thats funny because its one of the highest rated fruit beers in the world (might be # 1 actually). Its a sour brown ale aged in giant oak vats with over a pound of real Wisconsin cherries per bottle... anything but mediciney. And comparing it to the fake tasting berry weiss is a joke.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on September 01, 2010, 10:37:34 PM
If your talking about the belgian red thats funny because its one of the highest rated fruit beers in the world (might be # 1 actually). Its a sour brown ale aged in giant oak vats with over a pound of real Wisconsin cherries per bottle... anything but mediciney. And comparing it to the fake tasting berry weiss is a joke.

nope sorry, staying with my opinion. that beer is awful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 01, 2010, 11:31:54 PM
nope sorry, staying with my opinion. that beer is awful.

you also called cider beer once too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 02, 2010, 07:00:06 PM
Victory Brewing - brewery out of PA

Picked up their "Prima Pils" as a last gasp for summer brew.  Really a good crisp Pils. 

Also, I note that the beer fridges are now being filled with Octoberfest brews.  I am not ready for Octoberfest beer until after Labor Day.

Hopwollop by Victory is great also.

I wish I could remember the different beers I have had over the last month...

If you are starting to homebrew, I think the most important thing is to be patient, and make sure to NOT let the pot boil over... even if it takes forever, dont walk away for 2 min... I did. :)

also, start with something dark, the darker the beer the easier it is for it to turn out decent.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on September 03, 2010, 08:56:49 PM

also, start with something dark, the darker the beer the easier it is for it to turn out decent.


Yup, much easier to hide 'off' flavors in the beer.

There are a lot of great sites with a ton of info online. Just do a quick google search for home brewing and you will be on your way.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on September 03, 2010, 10:57:28 PM
Been away from this thread too long! Had a couple first timers since.

Tyranena Scurvy IPA- Pours a very nice orangey-copper color with a decent head. Aroma is pure hops and orange/lime citrus. The orange peel gives it an interesting dynamic, but this is a hop bomb at heart. Pretty bitter, but the citrus gives it a nice finish. Not a session beer for me, but a nice twist on a traditional IPA.

Hinterland Cherry Wheat- Bought a 4 pack of this on a whim. Glad I did. A very smooth wheat beer, with a perfect balance of cherry. The aroma is more wheat, with a hint of cherry. The tartness of the cherry really plays well with this beer. One of the better cherry beers I've had.

Bell's Poolside Ale- Really enjoyed this one, had it on tap at Sugar Maple. It's a pale wheat ale, again with a hint of cherry. Between the mild bitterness of the hops, the bready wheat, and the brightness of the cherry, it was very refreshing. Wish I would have found this beer earlier this summer!

Also had Dreadnaught on tap. Unbelievable, as some have said here before. Glad I finally got around to trying it. Since it got cold tonight, I enjoyed a couple Staghorn Octoberfest's from New Glarus. Still one of the best American Marzen's I've had, can't recommend it enough.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: WildBill77RT on September 06, 2010, 09:22:28 PM
For those of you still in the mke area, in Racine (30 min south) there is the Great Lakes Brew Fest in 2 weekends.

Linky: http://www.greatlakesbrewfest.com/main.html (http://www.greatlakesbrewfest.com/main.html)

Friday night is Wisconsin Brews only, and Saturday is over 350 brews.

$39 for all you can drink.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on September 07, 2010, 06:52:16 AM
Picked up a six pack of Leffe Blonde this past weekend.  I wish I still lived in Belgium.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on September 07, 2010, 08:01:58 AM
recent new beers (to me)

Founders 2010 Nemesis barleywine, good but not great, disappointed at $6/bottle

New Glarus Unplugged Abt - label mentions aging these, drinking them fresh was unimpressive, although tasty I expected more, will cellar a few 4 packs

Sierra Nevada 30th Anniversary Black barleywine, this one I really liked
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on September 07, 2010, 10:12:01 AM

Founders 2010 Nemesis barleywine, good but not great, disappointed at $6/bottle


I really enjoyed this beer. It was like a hoppy barleywine/imperial red/porter mix. It was so complex, and very balanced considering it was 100 IBU's, and I loved the dark chocolate aftertaste mixed with the hops.

But, at $6/bottle, that is out of my price point for buying more than one (if that was even an option - one bottle limit), so I have to agree with you there.

The ABT I thought was a good american attempt at a great style. I did a tasting with that and a few legit Belgians, and comparatively, the ABT was less 'flavorful', but more drinkable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 07, 2010, 05:22:15 PM
For those in the Madison area, this weekend is the the Thirsty Troll brew fest in Mount Horeb.

Great time, lots of tasty local beer... had a jalapeno beer last year, which got my pebble (vote) for best at the fest.

I'll be there again... 3rd year in a row.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 10, 2010, 04:37:49 PM
Sipping an "Apocalypse Cow" from FFF.

This beer is perfect.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on September 11, 2010, 01:19:14 AM
Sipping an "Apocalypse Cow" from FFF.

This beer is perfect.

And the bottle is badass looking
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on September 14, 2010, 07:43:56 PM
As the season is almost upon us...  ANy recommendations on a solid Octoberfest beer?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 14, 2010, 07:55:52 PM
I suggest a 2L mug of Augustseiner in Munich.  3 of them and you may have trouble finding your hotel room... Not me though, found mine :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on September 14, 2010, 07:59:51 PM
As the season is almost upon us...  ANy recommendations on a solid Octoberfest beer?

staghorn, summit oktoberfest, ayinger oktoberfest, brooklyn oktoberfest

avoid bells, becks, and hofbrau imo
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on September 14, 2010, 10:58:18 PM
thanks for the support Hards.  I hope you wake up to a fridge full of fat tire this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 15, 2010, 06:46:19 PM
staghorn, summit oktoberfest, ayinger oktoberfest, brooklyn oktoberfest

avoid bells, becks, and hofbrau imo

I would add to the try list Spatten and Upland.

To the avoid list add Three Floyds (Musterfest is just a 100% DISAPPOINTMENT)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on September 15, 2010, 06:59:35 PM

To the avoid list add Three Floyds (Musterfest is just a 100% DISAPPOINTMENT)

Good thing i passed over this one last week at the store, i was considering buying it. Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on September 15, 2010, 07:23:49 PM
I would add to the try list Spatten and Upland.

To the avoid list add Three Floyds (Musterfest is just a 100% DISAPPOINTMENT)

I don't think I've ever been disappointed by a Three Floyds beer.  Any particular reason you're not a fan?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 15, 2010, 08:08:53 PM
I don't think I've ever been disappointed by a Three Floyds beer.  Any particular reason you're not a fan?

Oh no, I am a self processed Three Floyds fanboy. I was just super disappointed by Munsterfest. It was just a meh beer - seemed like a Hauf Brau house style Oktoberfest which I also dislike. I brought a few bottles of Munsterfest down to Dark Lord Days this past year just get rid of them and the people I shared them with thought the same thing.

Now next months seasonal Broo Doo is one of three favorite beers on the planet. I have my case already ordered.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on September 15, 2010, 08:18:27 PM
I really need to take the trip down to dark lord day one of these years, did you have a good time?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on September 16, 2010, 03:51:32 PM
I know some of you must be BA members... what are your usernames over there? Just curious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on September 18, 2010, 11:15:27 PM

Now next months seasonal Broo Doo is one of three favorite beers on the planet. I have my case already ordered.

Just picked up broo doo from three cellars, where they told me it was as fresh as possible. Holy S*** it this a good beer! Perfect color for an IPA, and great, clean taste. Thanks for the recommendation!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 25, 2010, 04:54:35 PM
As a preface, I HATE flying dog brewery (an IPA mixed with a wheat is a travesty, "Flying Bitch"). But DOGToberfest is pretty good.  As a side, I hate most oktoberfest beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on September 27, 2010, 09:59:34 AM
I've been drinking several of the Oktoberfests out there and think I've liked the Wurzburger best of all. Years ago I thought Sprecher made an excellent example but then they started pastuerizing all of their brews and now none are what they used to be: good beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: NYWarrior on September 27, 2010, 10:30:22 AM
Dogfish Head is now distributing Bitches Brew -- a special beer to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the legendary Miles Davis album of the same name.  I had a bottle of it this weekend (7 more in the fridge) ..... fantastic beer - a rich, smooth malt, somewhat chocolatey, with a smooth finish.  Outstanding beer -- as per usual from the guys at DFH

http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/bitches-brew.htm

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on October 07, 2010, 06:16:06 PM
Sitting at suds o hannah's in Beloit drinking a couple of Sierra Nevada torpedoes. I'm a big fan of IPas.  Tastes better than their regular ipa. On par with lakefront Which I believe to have the best ipa. However i noticed new Glarus has a moon man no coast ipa on tap here. Has anyone tried it? As seen from every beer post I've made I'm no new glarus fan. (something about being a dbag fan boy follower turns me off see: aj bombers, new glarus, soccer, the "fear the deer" movement, Spanish ods) but I'll give that up to enjoy a good ipa if people think it's good

 I've got time for one more. I'll give it a shot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on October 07, 2010, 08:41:02 PM
Moon Man is fantastic. Has the big hop aroma of an IPA, but is very drinkable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on October 07, 2010, 09:54:50 PM
Sitting at suds o hannah's in Beloit drinking a couple of Sierra Nevada torpedoes. I'm a big fan of IPas.  Tastes better than their regular ipa. On par with lakefront Which I believe to have the best ipa. However i noticed new Glarus has a moon man no coast ipa on tap here. Has anyone tried it? As seen from every beer post I've made I'm no new glarus fan. (something about being a dbag fan boy follower turns me off see: aj bombers, new glarus, soccer, the "fear the deer" movement, Spanish ods) but I'll give that up to enjoy a good ipa if people think it's good

 I've got time for one more. I'll give it a shot.

Moon man is a pale ale, not an IPA. But, incredible on tap IMO. Awesome beer.

Also, torpedo is Sierra Nevada's "regular" IPA. What else are you thinking of? Celebration is a seasonal IPA they make, and Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is an American pale ale, and a decent/average beer. They don't really make any other widely distributed IPA's... except for maybe harvest ale... which was a one time release.

I agree Lakefront's IPA is awesome, but not quite my favorite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on October 07, 2010, 09:56:17 PM
Let us know how you like the moon man.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on October 11, 2010, 08:53:21 AM
Just discovered that my local grocery store in Ponte Vedra, FL stocks several Lake Front beers. Any recommendations?  I really can't remember much about the beer from a couple hazy brewery tours back in the day.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on October 11, 2010, 09:54:13 AM
Let us know how you like the moon man.

Moon man was ok (IPA or Pale ale... whatever). not as good as the torpedo or lakefront IPA. but after my 3rd-4th IPA I lose my taste for them.  I'll have to try it again
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on October 11, 2010, 10:01:23 AM
We stopped at a bar Saturday that had a sign up Top of the Hops for $2/bottle. I'd never heard of it, turns out it's Chameleon Brewing which is Randy Sprecher's new business. I was not impressed at all, it did not seem like a finished/professional offering, semi-flat, reminded me of a rookie homebrew batch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on October 28, 2010, 04:04:29 PM
Just picked the new New Glarus beer - Back Forty Bock.
 
IMO a very good beer, on the light side for a bock but very tasty and drinkable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on November 03, 2010, 12:25:58 AM
Toasting tonight's events with a Broo Doo. First time I've had it. Holy balls. Possibly the perfect IPA.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 03, 2010, 09:21:14 AM
Toasting tonight's events with a Broo Doo. First time I've had it. Holy balls. Possibly the perfect IPA.

I told you. Though, it does not age well so drink up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on November 11, 2010, 10:06:20 AM
one of the beers I always love to drink when we go to Jamaica but could never buy here is finally available in the USA - Guiness Foreign Extra Stout. It's the best stout Guiness makes IMO and definitely different from their others at 7.5% ABV

now only if Dragon stout would be sold here (again)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on November 11, 2010, 11:06:53 AM
one of the beers I always love to drink when we go to Jamaica but could never buy here is finally available in the USA - Guiness Foreign Extra Stout. It's the best stout Guiness makes IMO and definitely different from their others at 7.5% ABV



Tuesday, September 28th is National Drink Beer Day! As if you didn't already have reason to raise a pint, GUINNESS(r) Irish Stout is proud to announce its U.S. launch of GUINNESS(r) Foreign Extra Stout (FES) on October 1st. The fullest in flavor of the GUINNESS brand variants, GUINNESS FES is carbonated unlike the nitrogenated GUINNESS Draught with which most Americans are familiar. The specialty beer is 7.5% ABV and possesses strong, roasted aromas followed by a unique bittersweet taste. Foreign Extra Stout is already a favorite of many around the world, making up 45% of GUINNESS sales globally, and is sure to be a favorite of beer aficionados here in the U.S.

http://beeradvocate.com/news/3055116

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on November 11, 2010, 12:27:25 PM
I tried Moon Man. First three went down real good, but the remainder of the six pack got boring for me. I've yet to be overly impressed with anything out of New Glarus.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: RudeDude on November 14, 2010, 10:47:35 PM
3 Beers I must immediately purchase and put in my face upon their availability....   

1.  Furthermore Knotstock

2.  Central Waters Ouisconsing Red Ale

3.  Big Sky's Moose Drool Brown Ale

Not a lot of bars and/or liquor stores carry these products.  However if and when they do I usually (attempt to) clean them out. 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on November 14, 2010, 11:08:34 PM
3 Beers I must immediately purchase and put in my face upon their availability....   

1.  Furthermore Knotstock

2.  Central Waters Ouisconsing Red Ale

3.  Big Sky's Moose Drool Brown Ale

Not a lot of bars and/or liquor stores carry these products.  However if and when they do I usually (attempt to) clean them out. 



Every time I've been to Sugar Maple they've had Moose Drool on tap. And, since its a year-round beer discount pretty much always has some. Good beer.

I'm not a big fan of Ouisconsing, but it is also a year round - and should be at discount pretty much all the time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 15, 2010, 04:35:43 AM
3 Beers I must immediately purchase and put in my face upon their availability....   

1.  Furthermore Knotstock

2.  Central Waters Ouisconsing Red Ale

3.  Big Sky's Moose Drool Brown Ale

Not a lot of bars and/or liquor stores carry these products.  However if and when they do I usually (attempt to) clean them out. 



no offense, but.

1. yuck.
2. yuck.
3. meh.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on November 15, 2010, 10:59:44 AM
I talked to a guy from NC at Rock Bottom on Saturday. He was here taking Master Brewer Assoc. classes at UW-Madison and plans to open a brewpub in NC. He mentioned they had a field trip to New Glarus and Capitol's breweries.

He was extremely impressed with the new NG brewery, so clean you could eat off the floor. Was also blown away with their 100% weldless stainless piping throughout. He thought they took them to see Capitol afterwards to show them what NOT to do. He mentioned mold and when pressed said he would not drink their beer after seeing their brewery.

He said there were folks from MillerCoors, Modelo, Corona and a few other breweries and Breiss Malting also taking the class.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on November 15, 2010, 11:31:31 AM
I talked to a guy from NC at Rock Bottom on Saturday. He was here taking Master Brewer Assoc. classes at UW-Madison and plans to open a brewpub in NC. He mentioned they had a field trip to New Glarus and Capitol's breweries.

He was extremely impressed with the new NG brewery, so clean you could eat off the floor. Was also blown away with their 100% weldless stainless piping throughout. He thought they took them to see Capitol afterwards to show them what NOT to do. He mentioned mold and when pressed said he would not drink their beer after seeing their brewery.

He said there were folks from MillerCoors, Modelo, Corona and a few other breweries and Breiss Malting also taking the class.

Very interesting stuff, thanks for posting.

Kinda funny thinking about millercoors guys touring NG, "What?, not all beers are triple hops brewed/pasteurized/use rice? Outrageous!"

Or,

"Dan, what kind of food coloring do you use to make the beer look this good?"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 15, 2010, 01:04:38 PM
If anyone cares, Three Floyds & Dogfish Head will be hosting a tapping party at Romans' on Wednesday @ 7pm for their new joint brew Poppaskull. I will be heading over for one before heading to the BC. I believe the one in Chicago is tonight at Hopleaf and in Madison on Tuesday at The Haze.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on November 15, 2010, 01:08:32 PM
If anyone cares, Three Floyds & Dogfish Head will be hosting a tapping party at Romans' on Wednesday @ 7pm for their new joint brew Poppaskull. I will be heading over for one before heading to the BC. I believe the one in Chicago is tonight at Hopleaf and in Madison on Tuesday at The Haze.

Now that is intriguing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on November 17, 2010, 03:37:31 PM
If anyone cares, Three Floyds & Dogfish Head will be hosting a tapping party at Romans' on Wednesday @ 7pm for their new joint brew Poppaskull. I will be heading over for one before heading to the BC. I believe the one in Chicago is tonight at Hopleaf and in Madison on Tuesday at The Haze.

Is anyone else going? I'm thinking about heading down.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 17, 2010, 03:50:25 PM
Romans' just announced they are also tapping a barrel of Hell's Black Intelligencer Oatmeal Stout as well.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/26/62891
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on November 17, 2010, 10:03:21 PM
Romans' just announced they are also tapping a barrel of Hell's Black Intelligencer Oatmeal Stout as well.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/26/62891

That beer was incredible.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Steve Buscemi on November 17, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Anyone ever gone to Y-Not II?   Craziest bar ever.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 18, 2010, 08:25:02 AM
Anyone ever gone to Y-Not II?   Craziest bar ever.

Been there multiple times. Not a crazy bar, just can do laundry. Why would you think that?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on November 18, 2010, 12:21:33 PM
Is anyone else going? I'm thinking about heading down.

we went after the game and the keg was gone already  :(

did have some DFH Worldwide stout, holy cow, 18% ABV

also found the Sierra Nevada Grand Cru tasty

barrels on deck include Founders CBS, Nemesis and Backwoods Bastard all of which I'd like to try, the CBS is extremely hard to find outside of the brewery itself
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 18, 2010, 12:31:56 PM
we went after the game and the keg was gone already  :(

did have some DFH Worldwide stout, holy cow, 18% ABV

also found the Sierra Nevada Grand Cru tasty

barrels on deck include Founders CBS, Nemesis and Backwoods Bastard all of which I'd like to try, the CBS is extremely hard to find outside of the brewery itself

were you there with someone who ordered an alpha klaus? if so, i was sitting right next to you at the bar.

anyway, i talked the guys at romans' and they are planning to do a Founders Brewery Day in mid-January where they will release CBS. My guess that goes in one hour.

I went with the Three Floyds Hell's Black Intelligencer which was outstanding and the Dogfish Head Burton Buton which was also really good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on November 18, 2010, 02:34:47 PM
we went after the game and the keg was gone already  :(

did have some DFH Worldwide stout, holy cow, 18% ABV

also found the Sierra Nevada Grand Cru tasty

barrels on deck include Founders CBS, Nemesis and Backwoods Bastard all of which I'd like to try, the CBS is extremely hard to find outside of the brewery itself

I was there before the game, and got a taster of the poppa skull, I wasn't a big fan, that spice they used really dominated the taste.

The Intelligencer was awesome, it went down easier than any beer I've ever had.

The World Wide Stout was pretty good as well. It was a year old at this point, and had almost wine-like characteristics.

I also tried the '08 Foghorn Barleywine, oh man, that was good. Really smooth and tasty.

And, as always, celebration on tap was outstanding.

BTW, backwoods bastard was on at Sugar Maple last time I was there, so if you want to try it check them out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on November 18, 2010, 04:22:09 PM
were you there with someone who ordered an alpha klaus? if so, i was sitting right next to you at the bar.

anyway, i talked the guys at romans' and they are planning to do a Founders Brewery Day in mid-January where they will release CBS. My guess that goes in one hour.

I went with the Three Floyds Hell's Black Intelligencer which was outstanding and the Dogfish Head Burton Buton which was also really good.

yeah that was the Mrs. ordering the klaus

btw, Sunday at 5pm the Sugar Maple lists some sort of Founders thing going on, no details but I 1st read about it in an email from Founders, my guess  is a few special treats might be on hand, I've already cleared my schedule after the Packers beat the Vikings <snicker> to make a run there and check it out
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 18, 2010, 04:59:29 PM
yeah that was the Mrs. ordering the klaus

btw, Sunday at 5pm the Sugar Maple lists some sort of Founders thing going on, no details but I 1st read about it in an email from Founders, my guess  is a few special treats might be on hand, I've already cleared my schedule after the Packers beat the Vikings <snicker> to make a run there and check it out

nice to sort of meet you then. i would note that Sugar Maple already tapped their one beer of CBS earlier this year and went through it in about 3 hrs. needless to say that could be a fun sunday afternoon trip.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on November 22, 2010, 01:30:57 AM


btw, Sunday at 5pm the Sugar Maple lists some sort of Founders thing going on, no details but I 1st read about it in an email from Founders, my guess  is a few special treats might be on hand, I've already cleared my schedule after the Packers beat the Vikings <snicker> to make a run there and check it out


Did anyone make it to this? I'm curious what they tapped.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on November 22, 2010, 09:02:41 AM
Did anyone make it to this? I'm curious what they tapped.

we were there, Bruno had tapped Backwoods Bastard too early, the keg blew on Saturday so last night was only Red RyePA, Dirty Bastard and Harvest Ale

the only thing special was food, it was actually literally, a sausage fest with elk, pheasant, boar, duck, some sort of brat I forgot (apple maybe) and potato sausages, buy a Founders tap and get a plate of sausage
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 26, 2010, 08:16:11 PM
About to take a trip into the unknown here with a 1L bottle of Sprecher IPA2 Double IPA.  Better be good since it cost $16.00...

Hand numbered 9258.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 26, 2010, 08:24:44 PM
I had a Lagunitas Sonoma Farmhouse Hop Stoopid Double IPA this afternoon (ironically, while we were wine tasting in Sonoma, but I needed something different for lunch).

Very good.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/lagunitas-sonoma-farmhouse-hop-stoopid/69933/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on November 26, 2010, 08:35:34 PM
What's the verdict Hards?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 27, 2010, 05:03:04 AM
What's the verdict Hards?

subpar as usual for sprecher

what a joke.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 06, 2010, 01:10:40 PM
I tried a bottle of Bell's Batch 10,000, the last batch beer they say they are making. This one has 100 types of malt and 60 types of hops in it FWIW. I did not care for Batch 9000 at all but this Batch 10,000 was fantastic IMO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 06, 2010, 02:48:54 PM
I tried a bottle of Bell's Batch 10,000, the last batch beer they say they are making. This one has 100 types of malt and 60 types of hops in it FWIW. I did not care for Batch 9000 at all but this Batch 10,000 was fantastic IMO.

i have heard the exact same things about 10k vs. 9k. Roman's has a barrel which he is going to age for a bit. Cannot wait.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 08, 2010, 06:15:59 AM
I tried a bottle of Bell's Batch 10,000, the last batch beer they say they are making. This one has 100 types of malt and 60 types of hops in it FWIW. I did not care for Batch 9000 at all but this Batch 10,000 was fantastic IMO.

Just picked up a bottle at discount. Interesting beer, obviously with a lot going on. I never tried the 9,000 but I did enjoy the 10,000. It just didn't blow me away. If it were a regular beer sold in six-packs or bombers I probably wouldn't buy it consistently considering what else is out there, but I'm glad I tried it once. I'd be very interested in trying it again with a year or two on it.

Also, in regards to Romans, rumor is he's tapping CBS around new years eve. Can't wait!

Unrelated: why does it say you only have 19 posts, when it seems that you have many more than that?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on December 08, 2010, 06:46:48 AM
Superbar posts are like exhibition games.  Nice practice, but they don't count
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 08, 2010, 10:41:43 AM
Unrelated: why does it say you only have 19 posts, when it seems that you have many more than that?

probably because my posts are so meaningful they make a bigger impression  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 08, 2010, 11:24:48 AM
Also, in regards to Romans, rumor is he's tapping CBS around new years eve. Can't wait!


I spoke with Mike and Brian last week and it will be tapped on NYE. The party will probably start around 3pm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on December 11, 2010, 12:10:03 PM
Anyone watch the Brewmasters show on Discovery?  Just watched an episode on Dogfishhead where they had to dump 20k gallons of 120min IPA.  Yikes, that's a lot of cash.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 11, 2010, 12:16:56 PM
Anyone watch the Brewmasters show on Discovery?  Just watched an episode on Dogfishhead where they had to dump 20k gallons of 120min IPA.  Yikes, that's a lot of cash.

Ya I've been watching it. That was my favorite episode so far. I felt terrible watching that beer float down the drain.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 13, 2010, 10:08:58 AM
I thought they'd mix those 20,000 gallons with another beer and call it their 2010 Anniversary beer or something like that

for the record, I've never dumped a batch out in close to 20 years of brewing  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on December 13, 2010, 10:17:42 AM
They discussed, but were committed to maintaining the quality/integrity of their product.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on December 17, 2010, 02:33:43 PM
Had three good ones in the past month

Two Brothers Heavier Handed - this is one of my favorite beers, and it was a lot of fun.  It's their seasonal wet hop IPA (Heavy Handed) that is then aged in Oak Foudres.  Frankly, I like it more than 3F BrooDoo, and I really like BrooDoo.  The fun part is that this year it only comes in 3 liter bottles.  Yes, a 3L bottle is even bigger than you would think.  Great beer to bring to a party.

Goose Island Vanilla BCS - I liked it a lot more than the regular BCS.  The vanilla notes are a very nice touch that help smooth out the alcoholy taste.

Stone Double Bastard - Also very good.

Also, saw my first episode of Brewmasters last night.  loved.  it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 19, 2010, 05:12:00 PM
Had a couple new one's recently.

Three Floyds Alpha Klaus. Really really good beer. A christmas porter, and pretty heavy on the hops. Not as good as the intelligencer I had a few weeks ago, but definitely a world class porter. Pick this up if you are into winter warmers or porters.

Bruery 3 French Hens on tap at Sugar Maple. Wow, this was a great beer. It is a belgian quad, but had some great fruity flavors in there. Real easy to drink. I haven't tried it from the bottle, but I loved it on tap.

Goose Island Bourbon Country Stout on tap at Sugar Maple. At 13% this was pretty boozy, but good. I actually liked it more than the Coffee version I had. I'd really like the try the Vanilla and Rare.

And, as always, celebration is drinking great again this year.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on December 19, 2010, 06:18:53 PM
Live out in Boston, so most Sam Adams to me are fairly pedestrian, but have enjoyed a handful of Sam Adams "Boston Ale".  Smooth, good flavor, not a huge bite.  Reccomend!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 19, 2010, 10:49:59 PM
Live out in Boston, so most Sam Adams to me are fairly pedestrian, but have enjoyed a handful of Sam Adams "Boston Ale".  Smooth, good flavor, not a huge bite.  Reccomend!

I have not had that one. The only sam adams I typically buy is the winter pack, I like the chocolate bock and old fezziwig.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 20, 2010, 12:16:04 PM
Stone Double Bastard - Also very good.

that's my favorite Bastard, haven't found it in months, hope your post is evidence that it's available again
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on December 20, 2010, 01:10:10 PM
that's my favorite Bastard, haven't found it in months, hope your post is evidence that it's available again

They've had it consistently at my local (western Chicago burbs) Whole Foods for about three weeks.  Lucky Bastard is also being carried.  There is even a 3L bottle available of the Double.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on December 20, 2010, 11:39:21 PM
Been awhile since I've contributed to this thread, and since then I've tried a few. So here goes...

Central Waters Peruvian Morning- Had this on tap from a barrel that had been cellared for a year. Unbelievable. The best coffee stout I've had. It's an imperial that is aged in bourbon barrels, and carries a nice ABV. Coffee backbone, with vanilla/caramel notes, and a surprisingly smooth finish for a higher alcohol beer. Really tasty.

Bells Batch 10,000- Picked up a single of this one, and echo a lot of the sentiments here. I could tell there was a lot going on, but was impressed with the fact that the beer had a direction. Some beers are a hodge-podge and taste like one. This was a flavorful, complex, cohesive beer.

Capital Tett Doppelbock- I have a soft spot for Capital since I know a few people over there from a prior job, so I may be a bit biased. But they do bocks really, really well.  This one was beautiful. 8% ABV, but there's no way you could have known that. Poured a beautiful dark amber, had the signature caramel and toasted maltiness, balanced by mild hop bitterness. Drinks way too easy for the style.

Three Floyd's Alpha Klaus- FINALLY got a bottle of this. One of the most unique beers I've had. At first smell and sip, you think it's a traditional porter. Then the hops come up. It was unexpected, but I really liked the complexity and balance of this one. Not too heavy, not too roasty, and not too hoppy. Could sip this one all night.

A couple other notes-

-After watching Brewmasters, I realized I haven't sampled enough Dogfish beers. Picked up bottles of Palo Santo Marron, Midas Touch, and Chicory Stout. The Palo Santo was delicious. A brown ale on PED's. Loved the caramel notes, but I had the feeling that they kinda jacked up the ABV unnecessarily. It was almost too boozy, if possible. The Midas Touch I liked once it warmed a bit. Right out of the fridge it was alright, but as it warmed I got more of the grain, citrus, and alcohol notes. Complex, but a fairly easy drinking beer. The Chicory Stout was good, nothing terribly spectacular about it, but a solid addition to the winter stout rotation.

-When in KC for the CBE, I was able to tour the Boulevard Brewery with a group of alums. Beautiful facility, and the beer was pretty solid as well. Drank quite a bit of the Pale Ale, but the highlight was the Dry Stout on nitro. So, so good. Could down that beer all night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 20, 2010, 11:49:59 PM
that's my favorite Bastard, haven't found it in months, hope your post is evidence that it's available again

Stone has pulled out of Wisconsin... get it while you can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: parkerj on December 21, 2010, 06:39:38 PM
Capital Tett Doppelbock- I have a soft spot for Capital since I know a few people over there from a prior job, so I may be a bit biased. But they do bocks really, really well.  This one was beautiful. 8% ABV, but there's no way you could have known that. Poured a beautiful dark amber, had the signature caramel and toasted maltiness, balanced by mild hop bitterness. Drinks way too easy for the style.

i don't see any bias, totally agree (though maybe i'm biased too :P)...Capital's doppelbocks are great
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 26, 2010, 01:41:27 AM
Just picked up Central Waters Cherry Bourbon Stout. After drinking one, I'm still not really sure what to think of this beer. It is very thin compared to your typical stout. It was weird, some sips tasted like a bourbon bomb mess; other sips tasted like a delicious bourbon soaked cherry covered in chocolate. I am glad I bought 4 because I really don't have a feel for this beer after just the one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: muwarrior87 on December 26, 2010, 11:04:39 AM
I have not had that one. The only sam adams I typically buy is the winter pack, I like the chocolate bock and old fezziwig.

Had a chocolate bock last night and it wasn't my favorite. Not awful but average at best.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 27, 2010, 11:49:50 PM
Just picked up Central Waters Cherry Bourbon Stout. After drinking one, I'm still not really sure what to think of this beer. It is very thin compared to your typical stout. It was weird, some sips tasted like a bourbon bomb mess; other sips tasted like a delicious bourbon soaked cherry covered in chocolate. I am glad I bought 4 because I really don't have a feel for this beer after just the one.

Just had the normal Central Waters Bourbon Barrel Stout. I thought this was much better than the cherry version. Not quite on par with the Goose Island offerings, but still a very good beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on December 28, 2010, 10:01:21 PM
how is this for a stout taste test?

Old Rasputin 12th anniversary (100 pts on rate beer)
Nøgne Ø Imperial Stout (100 pts on rate beer)
Dogfish Head World Wide Stout (99 pts on rate beer)
Founders Oatmeal Stout - one of my favorites but only 92 pts on rate beer
Rogue Imperial Stout (100 pts on rate beer)

I was in love with all of them - but the Old Rasputin was the best of the bunch, all were great...

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/11219895@N05/5301820087/)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 28, 2010, 10:52:37 PM
how is this for a stout taste test?

Old Rasputin 12th anniversary (100 pts on rate beer)
Nøgne Ø Imperial Stout (100 pts on rate beer)
Dogfish Head World Wide Stout (99 pts on rate beer)
Founders Oatmeal Stout - one of my favorites but only 92 pts on rate beer
Rogue Imperial Stout (100 pts on rate beer)

I was in love with all of them - but the Old Rasputin was the best of the bunch, all were great...

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/11219895@N05/5301820087/)




Nice, where was this? I really liked the world wide stout I had on tap a couple weeks ago. I'd love to try that Founders Oatmeal, they do a great job with stouts.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on December 29, 2010, 07:32:33 AM

I assembled the tasting myself after a trip to Ray's - they had some very nice high-end beers...


Nice, where was this? I really liked the world wide stout I had on tap a couple weeks ago. I'd love to try that Founders Oatmeal, they do a great job with stouts.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on December 29, 2010, 09:43:39 AM
Found a fantastic stout over the weekend. Limited quantities, so good luck stocking up on it.

I can't pronounce the brewery, but the beer is called "Godless"
http://beernews.org/2010/05/godless-beer-makes-long-awaited-journey-to-the-states/

99 rating on RateBeer.
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/djaevlebryg-gudelos/92580/1/11/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 29, 2010, 10:13:17 AM
we stopped at Romans to celebrate the big 5-O last night, Dark Horse Scotty Karate and Ayinger Celebrator on tap are both excellent IMO
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on December 30, 2010, 07:49:38 AM
Special Holiday Ale - collaboration between Nøgne Ø, Jolly Pumpkin, and Stone Brewing.  I think the prime is Nøgne Ø on brewing.  This was well worth drinking if you're into the holiday ales.  Very rich, spicy and good for Christmas.

Thanks to this thread, I had some of the Bells Batch 10000 last night.  I'll probably pick up some more.  Very enjoyable.

we stopped at Romans to celebrate the big 5-O last night, Dark Horse Scotty Karate and Ayinger Celebrator on tap are both excellent IMO

Congratulations.  And, Scotty Karate is my favorite Scotch Ale.  That beer rocks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 30, 2010, 03:25:59 PM
Is anyone heading to Roman's on New Years Eve? I believe they are tapping a keg of Canadian Breakfast Stout.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 30, 2010, 05:48:54 PM
Is anyone heading to Roman's on New Years Eve? I believe they are tapping a keg of Canadian Breakfast Stout.

Since it is 4 blocks from house I will swinging over to see Mike. He is tapping CBS along with Bell's Batch 10,000 & 9,000 as well as Goose Island Sofie and some other stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 30, 2010, 08:11:40 PM
Since it is 4 blocks from house I will swinging over to see Mike. He is tapping CBS along with Bell's Batch 10,000 & 9,000 as well as Goose Island Sofie and some other stuff.

Awesome, do you know what time he will be tapping them? Specifically the CBS.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 31, 2010, 02:38:43 PM
Awesome, do you know what time he will be tapping them? Specifically the CBS.

opens at 6pm. i would think he would tap it around 2pm to let it settle and pressurize properly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on January 03, 2011, 04:21:53 PM
a group of 6 of us stopped in early, the CBS & 10000were on tap when the place opened

I didn't care for the maple in the CBS just like I didn't like the 2009 Nemesis with maple, no more maple in beers for me. I'm not as fond of the 10000 as I was at first, too much going on in that beer I think.

My favorite beer on tap at Romans right now is the Ayinger Celebrator, I 've always liked bottles of that and on tap it's really good, one of the best doppels IMO

my brother brought me a bottle of the Central Waters bourbon barrel stout Saturday, I can't anything anything to not like about that unless it's price, the sticker on it read $5.99 I believe, pretty pricey for any beer at retail


does anyone watch Drinking Made Easy with Zane Lamprey on HDNet? Last week featured Milwaukee with visits to Wolski's, the Holler House, Safe House, Bomb Shelter, Bryants and some east side bar with dead scorpions in shots. Very interesting/funny stuff. According to the bartender at Wolski's, serving beer backs with a Bloody Mary is really just a local Milwaukee thing - is that right? I never thought about it before.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on January 03, 2011, 09:21:45 PM

My favorite beer on tap at Romans right now is the Ayinger Celebrator, I 've always liked bottles of that and on tap it's really good, one of the best doppels IMO

my brother brought me a bottle of the Central Waters bourbon barrel stout Saturday, I can't anything anything to not like about that unless it's price, the sticker on it read $5.99 I believe, pretty pricey for any beer at retail


I love the Celebrator too, great beer.

I wonder where he bought the Central Waters? I spent 10.50 for a 4 pack...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jfmu on January 03, 2011, 10:53:21 PM
a group of 6 of us stopped in early, the CBS & 10000were on tap when the place opened

I didn't care for the maple in the CBS just like I didn't like the 2009 Nemesis with maple, no more maple in beers for me. I'm not as fond of the 10000 as I was at first, too much going on in that beer I think.

My favorite beer on tap at Romans right now is the Ayinger Celebrator, I 've always liked bottles of that and on tap it's really good, one of the best doppels IMO

my brother brought me a bottle of the Central Waters bourbon barrel stout Saturday, I can't anything anything to not like about that unless it's price, the sticker on it read $5.99 I believe, pretty pricey for any beer at retail


does anyone watch Drinking Made Easy with Zane Lamprey on HDNet? Last week featured Milwaukee with visits to Wolski's, the Holler House, Safe House, Bomb Shelter, Bryants and some east side bar with dead scorpions in shots. Very interesting/funny stuff. According to the bartender at Wolski's, serving beer backs with a Bloody Mary is really just a local Milwaukee thing - is that right? I never thought about it before.

how is that show? i enjoyed three sheets (same host)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on January 04, 2011, 09:16:56 AM
how is that show? i enjoyed three sheets (same host)

it's good but I liked 3 Sheets better because of the international flavor it offered; this one was filmed throughout the US while he was doing a comedy tour last summer, it does have Steve McKenna in every episode which is a plus

btw, according to Zane's website, he just inked a deal to make another season of 3 Sheets episodes with an unnamed network
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 04, 2011, 09:41:16 AM
it's good but I liked 3 Sheets better because of the international flavor it offered; this one was filmed throughout the US while he was doing a comedy tour last summer, it does have Steve McKenna in every episode which is a plus

btw, according to Zane's website, he just inked a deal to make another season of 3 Sheets episodes with an unnamed network

Network is Spike. As of right now they are just reruns of old Three Sheets episodes.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on January 04, 2011, 09:58:42 AM
Network is Spike. As of right now they are just reruns of old Three Sheets episodes.

I think Spike only will have reruns - from his site and dated 12/26:
Quote
Also  "Three Sheets" will be premiering in February on a new network and we'll be shooting 24 more episodes of "Drinking Made Easy" across the US!

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 04, 2011, 10:05:03 AM
I think Spike only will have reruns - from his site and dated 12/26:

it's spike. he sent out hints to the network via twitter a few weeks back. now for drinking made easy....that is still on hd net and will be the new show for the next year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on January 10, 2011, 02:10:23 PM
Went to "Beer Class" last night (which is really just a glorified tasting and that's no problem).  The subject last night was "winter warmers", so we had plenty of stouts, doppelbocks, barleywines.

Aventinus - wheat doppelbock (2003)
Lagunitas - Cappucino Stout
Dark Horse - Too Cream Stout
Two Brothers - Northwinds Imperial Stout
Stone - Double Bastard
Great Divide - Old Ruffian
Kulmbacher - Eisbock
Anchor Steam - Old Foghorn Barleywine
North Coast - Old Rasputin
North Coast - Old Ale
====
Might be missing one or two.  I'd already had and enjoyed the Too Cream Stout, Double Bastard, and Northwinds Imperial Stout.  All great.

Consensus with our group was that the Aventinus and the North Coast beers were the best.  My personal favorite was Old Ruffian. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 10, 2011, 02:22:38 PM
Oh yeah - had a "Lucky Bastard" on tap at the local Cheeky Monk a couple nights ago.  Great beer - better than any of the other Bastards I've had (and I like those too...).

"Lukcy Basartd is a dry-hopped meeting-of-the-Bastards in a in-the-fermenter-blend of Arrogant Bastard Ale and Double Bastard Ale…with a perfect balance of the essence of OAKED Arrogant Bastard Ale."

edit: Oh - it really is spelled "Lukcy" - damn this page is hard to read...
http://www.arrogantbastard.com/lukcybasartd/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on January 10, 2011, 02:27:18 PM
Going to the St. Paul Winter Carnival Beer Dabbler on 1/29.....$25.

http://www.thebeerdabbler.com/winter/list.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 10, 2011, 02:27:38 PM
Oh...and...for anyone in or getting to Colorado soon...

Get ready for the next installment of Boulder Beer Company's BEER RAVE! Featuring only high-quality, out-of-state brews that are EXTREMELY hard to find here in Colorado, this is not your standard beer tasting event. $30 admission includes all samples of these hard-to-find craft beers, plus a commemorative tasting cup. Also on tap will be 9 small-batch and specialty brews from Boulder Beer Company. SATURDAY, JANUARY 29th, 6-9pm. Hosted by the mysterious Brewmaster DMZ.

http://boulderbeer.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=116&osCsid=55fb7a843b0462468f3b72ba992dc455
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 10, 2011, 02:28:30 PM
Going to the St. Paul Winter Carnival Beer Dabbler on 1/29.....$25.

http://www.thebeerdabbler.com/winter/list.html

Hah! You just beat my Beer Rave post.  1/29 is a great day for Beer I guess.   The Beer Dabbler looks like a great event!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on January 10, 2011, 02:35:00 PM
Hah! You just beat my Beer Rave post.  1/29 is a great day for Beer I guess.   The Beer Dabbler looks like a great event!

It is hooked up with the St. Paul Winter Carnival which goes from 1/27 - 2/6.

http://www.winter-carnival.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on January 15, 2011, 01:40:33 PM
Well, definitely need some beers after today's loss. What are you guys drinking?

I have some of the Russian River "tion" beers, Lost Abbey Deliverance, and The Abyss that I brought home from Seattle.

It's also hopslam season! One of the best beers in the known universe. FWI Stubby's has hopslam on firkin next Friday, I will not be missing that for anything.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on January 20, 2011, 11:22:01 AM
Anyone know a good beer store on the East Side?  I'm in the Capital and Oakland are.

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on January 20, 2011, 11:33:10 AM
Otto's on Oakland had a pretty decent selection the one time I was there. Whole Foods has a pretty good selection as well.

Ever since Blatz Liquor closed, Ray's in Tosa has been my go-to.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 20, 2011, 12:21:42 PM
Anyone know a good beer store on the East Side?  I'm in the Capital and Oakland are.

Thanks!

Like mufan12 said, Rays is your best bet. You can also check out Downer Ave Liquor if you are in a pinch on the east side.

I am just happy I picked up my Hopslam minikeg yesterday. Will make for great weekend drinking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on January 20, 2011, 01:05:32 PM
Rays is OK, but for beer, how can you not love Discount Liquor on Oklahoma?  Worth the drive, even from the east side. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: NYWarrior on January 20, 2011, 01:21:45 PM
Bad beer alert

http://www.esquire.com/features/drinking/worst-beer-051710
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rugbydrummer on January 20, 2011, 01:32:41 PM
Rays is OK, but for beer, how can you not love Discount Liquor on Oklahoma?  Worth the drive, even from the east side. 

+1  hands down.  The beer aisle is a wonderland!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on January 20, 2011, 01:45:49 PM
Rays is OK, but for beer, how can you not love Discount Liquor on Oklahoma?  Worth the drive, even from the east side. 

Discount is a crapshoot. They have a bunch of beer, but they don't rotate stock at all, or very often. For craft beer, unless you are cellaring it, you probably don't want it getting much older than 6 mos. Seen some 6 packs there that were a year old.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on January 20, 2011, 02:00:23 PM
Rays has always seemed to have a good selection but almost everything is more expensive there especially compared to Discount (except for Discount likes to inflate prices of single bottles of brews like Batch 10000 or KBS at $6/bottle)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 21, 2011, 11:36:55 AM
Discounts stock isnt always fresh. I have routinely seen beers 9 months old still on the shelf. Or even seasonal's from the previous year on the shelf. I would rather pay the extra dollar just to get fresh product rather than old stuff.

Also, I just picked up some mini kegs of Hopslam for $35, can't wait for this weekend. Also, last night Romans' did a tapping of this years version which is smoother than last. I think there may be a more honey it. It is dangerously smooth.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: muwarrior87 on January 24, 2011, 05:12:30 PM
Had a St. Bernardus Abt 12 the other night and this is absolutely delicious. A dark ale, ridiculously smooth and sweet. Also packs a punch at 10.5% ABV.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Josey Wales on January 26, 2011, 05:37:13 PM
Had a St. Bernardus Abt 12 the other night and this is absolutely delicious. A dark ale, ridiculously smooth and sweet. Also packs a punch at 10.5% ABV.

Those monks sure know what they're doing, thats for sure.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on January 28, 2011, 09:39:11 AM
Any recommendations?

http://www.thebeerdabbler.com/images/BeerDabbler-Downloadable-List.pdf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on January 28, 2011, 10:11:42 AM
I'd try the SN Stung Rye IPa, love rye beers, the Grand Teton beers I've tried were all good, Celebrator is one of the best doppels IMO, Bells Double Cream Stout is a personal favorite, the Redhook Eisbock 23 is crap

where is this?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on January 28, 2011, 10:13:33 AM
I'd try the SN Stung Rye IPa, love rye beers, the Grand Teton beers I've tried were all good, Celebrator is one of the best doppels IMO, Bells Double Cream Stout is a personal favorite, the Redhook Eisbock 23 is crap

where is this?

Part of the Winter Carnival in downtown St. Paul tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on February 01, 2011, 10:37:05 AM
I've tried the new black IPAs from both Lakefront and Sprecher, both are OK but I preferred the cascade hoppiness of Lakefront's version

also tried the latest New Glarus Unplugged, Smoked Rye ale, I really like rye beers but I don't much care for the smoked flavor in this release, still have a few more, maybe it will grow on me
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on February 01, 2011, 02:44:57 PM
In case anyone is wondering, Nomad has KBS on tap right now. Stopped in last Saturday for a beer before the MU game and was pleasantly surprised to see it on tap. So I had three. Good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on February 01, 2011, 05:47:03 PM
Had a St. Bernardus Abt 12 the other night and this is absolutely delicious. A dark ale, ridiculously smooth and sweet. Also packs a punch at 10.5% ABV.

The Prior 8 is also very good.

Has anyone had Deus from Brouwerij Bosteels (same crew who does Tripel Karmeliet)?

Had it on Saturday night after the Cuse win. Um, orgasmic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on February 01, 2011, 06:02:13 PM
Something I hadn't seen before from a Keweenaw brewing company from the UP of Michigan.    A 6-pack sampler of cans.      Two cans each of three different kinds. So weird I had to buy some.    Beer is fairly generic but tasty.    I just had never seen a microbrew in a can before.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jfmu on February 01, 2011, 07:13:02 PM
Something I hadn't seen before from a Keweenaw brewing company from the UP of Michigan.    A 6-pack sampler of cans.      Two cans each of three different kinds. So weird I had to buy some.    Beer is fairly generic but tasty.    I just had never seen a microbrew in a can before.  

a lot of oscar blues are in cans. i seem to always taste the aluminum of the can that turned be off. ive always wanted to try their stuff tho
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on February 03, 2011, 02:22:22 PM
all of Oscar blues brews are canned not bottled; I've tried a few and really liked one: GUBNA Imperial IPA, the others I tried were the Ten Fidy and Dales Pale ale and thought they were just so-so
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jfmu on February 03, 2011, 02:40:39 PM
all of Oscar blues brews are canned not bottled; I've tried a few and really liked one: GUBNA Imperial IPA, the others I tried were the Ten Fidy and Dales Pale ale and thought they were just so-so

ill echo you on the dales pale, its just so so. id say the yella pils one is the same. ill have to try the gubna next time im home
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on February 03, 2011, 04:08:49 PM
I just had never seen a microbrew in a can before.  

Great beer and winner of many awards.

http://surlybrewing.com/beer/year-round-beers.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on February 03, 2011, 09:16:19 PM
If you haven't taken the "Milwaukee Brewing Company" tour, they can all of their beer.  Its a great tour... Cuz its all you can drink!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on February 07, 2011, 09:30:39 AM
If you haven't taken the "Milwaukee Brewing Company" tour, they can all of their beer.  Its a great tour... Cuz its all you can drink!

thanks to this post, we took the tour on Saturday, played some bag toss, drank beer, took the tour, drank beer, played more bag toss after tour and drank beer, took our tokens to Stennies and drank more beer

they make many more styles of beer than I knew about, definitely have a higher appreciation for MBC than previously based on product and their efforts as a business to be as 'green' as they can

I wish they would can more than just their most popular brews but I realize printing labels vs. whole cans is more practical for smaller seasonal beers
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on February 07, 2011, 12:24:06 PM
Glad to hear you checked out the tour!  I really liked the one HUGE fan that replaced something like 66 small fans throughout.

I was surprised at their array of beers, and willingness to experiment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: drewm88 on February 19, 2011, 10:49:49 PM
Drank R.J. King Wingwalker Amber Ale while I watched the game tonight.

Blech. Not good. Tastes way too watery for an amber ale and leaves a nasty aftertaste.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on February 28, 2011, 09:39:55 AM
I had the Central Waters Peruvian Morning, a bourbon barrel aged coffee stout, on tap at Roman's Friday. This is an excellent beer IMO, great bourbon flavor, not too strong of a coffee flavor (a plus IMO).

A bit pricey at $7.50/tap; checked it out at Discount and they are only selling individual bottles at $5 although beer advocate reviews show this is typically about $12/4 pack.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 15, 2011, 11:13:34 PM
Have sampled a bunch since my last post. Probably will split this one up.

New Glarus Smoked Rye- Had it on tap at Sugar Maple. It was... interesting. Can't say I was a fan. Had a smoked meat aroma, the taste up front was alright, had some malt and a bit of spice. The finish is all smokey. Just not my style.

Lakefront IBA- Picked up a bomber of this, and it was a really interesting beer. Very dark, but not terribly heavy. IPA flavors hit you right away, with a roasty finish. Pretty smooth and surprisingly, two contrasting tastes worked pretty well.

Capital Weizen Doppelbock- I'm always drawn to Kirby's creations, so I tried one of these. It's more or less an amped up hefeweizen. All the right tastes, just stronger. Pretty delicious beer. The closest comparison I'd have would be Dancing Man, but heavier.

O'So Night Train- Had this one for the first time a couple weekends ago, and not sure why I waited. A delicious, roasty porter. A lot of chocolate, oat, and coffee notes with some nice bitterness to finish. Pretty complex beer, once that could end up being a go-to porter.

Tyranena Down 'N Dirty Chocolate Oatmeal Stout- The best way to describe this is Founders Breakfast Stout without the espresso. Wonderful chocolate flavor, sweet, but balanced by the oats. Really creamy, easy drinking stout. Surprisingly full bodied for a lower ABV.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 15, 2011, 11:41:23 PM
The rest of this post is dedicated to the Dark Lord. Shared a bottle of that with friends last month and it was remarkable.

Hinterland Maple Bock- This one was too intriguing for me to pass up. Poured a deep, clear brown with a good amount of head. Very roasty at first, followed by more coffee notes than you'd expect in a bock. The maple sweetness comes through at the end. Was almost hoping for more maple, but it was pretty good.

Milwaukee Brewing Baltic Porter- Sampled this on tour, then had it on tap later on. And kudos to those who recommended the tour, it was fantastic. Right up there with Lakefront. Anyway, I really liked this beer. Had good porter characteristics with barrel aging. The nice thing about it was the bourbon taste complimented the roasted notes of the porter rather than dominate the taste. A bit thinner than other porters I've had, but it worked.

Dark Horse Amber- Hadn't had much from them, so I figured the amber was a good place to start. It's not your run of the mill amber, and I'm cool with that. It's unfiltered, with a Belgian yeast used. This gave the beer some interesting flavors. The standard amber malts were still there, but it had some fruity/spicy/funkiness from the yeast. Ambers can get boring, but this one was far from it. Will buy it again.

Dogfish Head Aprihop- This beer makes me sad that they are pulling out of WI. I love their product, and this might be my favorite, since it is the closest to sessionable I've had from them. Had similar tastes to Magic Hat #9, but the hops are much bolder. The apricot balanced it out wonderfully. Never been a big fruit beer guy, but I enjoyed this a ton.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 16, 2011, 09:20:31 AM
Dogfish Head Aprihop- This beer makes me sad that they are pulling out of WI. I love their product, and this might be my favorite, since it is the closest to sessionable I've had from them. Had similar tastes to Magic Hat #9, but the hops are much bolder. The apricot balanced it out wonderfully. Never been a big fruit beer guy, but I enjoyed this a ton.

DFH is pulling out too? Crap, hadn't heard that, Stone and now DFH, argh!

nice reviews btw, interesting to read other people's likes/dislikes
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 16, 2011, 12:33:02 PM
DFH is pulling out too? Crap, hadn't heard that, Stone and now DFH, argh!

nice reviews btw, interesting to read other people's likes/dislikes

Yeah, they are pulling out of four states, and we didn't make the cut. I've been to three places looking for 90 Minute and all are sold out already. It's a shame.

Happy to do the reviews! I've tried some really good beers based on posts from this thread, hope it helps others find some new ones.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on March 16, 2011, 12:50:12 PM
Had the FOunders Imperial Stout this weekend, and was very good.  Very anxious to get my KBS, order was placed yesterday. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jaybilaswho? on March 16, 2011, 01:26:13 PM
If you haven't taken the "Milwaukee Brewing Company" tour, they can all of their beer.  Its a great tour... Cuz its all you can drink!

Is it really all you can drink? I just checked out their website and it doesn't mention this. It also doesn't mention any limit on beers but I would think they would market it as all you can drink- or maybe they wouldn't as the word would spread like wildfire and they be overrun with people looking to get free beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 16, 2011, 02:10:22 PM
Is it really all you can drink? I just checked out their website and it doesn't mention this. It also doesn't mention any limit on beers but I would think they would market it as all you can drink- or maybe they wouldn't as the word would spread like wildfire and they be overrun with people looking to get free beer.

it was definitely all you can drink last month when we took it, they even encouraged us to hang around and drink more after the tour but I'd already had probably 9 beers and had a token for another at a local bar they gave us (like Lakefront does as well)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 16, 2011, 02:15:58 PM
For those going to Cleveland to see MU check out the Great Lakes beer pretty much sold everywhere.  I recomend the Dortmunder Gold.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on March 16, 2011, 03:07:24 PM
Is it really all you can drink? I just checked out their website and it doesn't mention this. It also doesn't mention any limit on beers but I would think they would market it as all you can drink- or maybe they wouldn't as the word would spread like wildfire and they be overrun with people looking to get free beer.

Definitely, went again last weekend and had another great time.  The guys are all really knowledgeable and are willing to talk about anything.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jaybilaswho? on March 16, 2011, 03:15:23 PM
Definitely, went again last weekend and had another great time.  The guys are all really knowledgeable and are willing to talk about anything.

swwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeetttttttt. Looks like i know where my next saturday booze fest will take place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on March 16, 2011, 09:08:05 PM
Dark Horse Amber- Hadn't had much from them, so I figured the amber was a good place to start.

I'm a big Dark Horse fan and have mentioned some of their other beers in this thread.  Everything I've had from them is good... and their Blueberry Stout (one of five stouts they release each year) is delish.  My point?  Try some of their other beers.

If you haven't taken the "Milwaukee Brewing Company" tour, they can all of their beer.  Its a great tour... Cuz its all you can drink!

Thanks to your recommendation, some friends of mine took this tour.  They were thinking about a Lakefront tour and I said, "hey, I've heard good things about Milwaukee Brewing Company.  Try that one instead".  One is a pretty big beer nerd and he spoke very highly.

Had the FOunders Imperial Stout this weekend, and was very good.  Very anxious to get my KBS, order was placed yesterday. 

Got the call yesterday.  I can pick up my four-pack of KBS on Friday... and I'm thinking it'll be picked up before 6:30.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on March 16, 2011, 09:50:04 PM
For those going to Cleveland to see MU check out the Great Lakes beer pretty much sold everywhere.  I recomend the Dortmunder Gold.

I've had many of the Edmund Fitzgerald's while visiting friends in the lower peninsula of Michigan.  Good stuff. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 18, 2011, 03:57:39 PM
scored 2 four packs of KBS today - woot!

make that 5, I'm up for trades if anyone is interested


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I agree on FES, the best Guiness has to offer IMO, always wondered when they'd finally sell that in the US
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 19, 2011, 02:02:24 AM
For the St. Paddy's Day Hoops Marathon I picked up a bomber of Three Floyd's Brian Boru and a 4 pack of the Guinness Foreign Extra Stout.

The Brian Boru didn't make it to Thursday. It was delicious. Poured a copper color with a citrus hop aroma. The taste had some hops, but balanced with a good deal of toasty malt and fruit notes. Have yet to have a beer from there that I haven't liked.

I was pleasantly surprised by the Foreign Extra. It was like a Guinness, but amped up. It was really good. I wish they'd have that on nitro at bars instead of the original.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on March 19, 2011, 02:34:51 PM
scored 2 four packs of KBS today - woot!

make that 5, I'm up for trades if anyone is interested


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I agree on FES, the best Guiness has to offer IMO, always wondered when they'd finally sell that in the US

PM sent. This post made me come out of lurking mode.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on March 24, 2011, 07:43:47 AM
  Anyone every been to Dark Lord Day at Three Floyds?

 I got tickets for it but have heard mixed reviews.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on March 24, 2011, 08:01:22 AM
  Anyone every been to Dark Lord Day at Three Floyds?

 I got tickets for it but have heard mixed reviews.

I'll buy your tickets.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on March 24, 2011, 08:02:13 AM
I'll buy your tickets.

If he doesn't I will.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on March 24, 2011, 08:36:45 AM
I picked up a four pack of KBS, and this was the first time I'd ever had it.  It was really good, but I'm not sure that it lives up to the hype.  Of course, the hype may have been just too much in my mind.

I drank one during the Xavier game and then one during the Syracuse game.  There is a bottle of KBS in the fridge now, pulled up from the beer cellar (okay - really a shelf in the basement) for tomorrow's game.

My apologies, but it looks like the Final Four is as far as we will go this year. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on March 24, 2011, 08:39:30 AM
I picked up a four pack of KBS, and this was the first time I'd ever had it.  It was really good, but I'm not sure that it lives up to the hype.  Of course, the hype may have been just too much in my mind.

I drank one during the Xavier game and then one during the Syracuse game.  There is a bottle of KBS in the fridge now, pulled up from the beer cellar (okay - really a shelf in the basement) for tomorrow's game.

My apologies, but it looks like the Final Four is as far as we will go this year. 

I like your idea of good luck beers.  In solidarity, I will be once again picking up a growler of Berkshire Brewing Company (BBC) Lost Sailor IPA. 

Not sure if BBC ships outside of this area (New England), but if you kind find, very good local stuf.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 24, 2011, 10:49:58 AM
I picked up a four pack of KBS, and this was the first time I'd ever had it.  It was really good, but I'm not sure that it lives up to the hype.  Of course, the hype may have been just too much in my mind.

I drank one during the Xavier game and then one during the Syracuse game.  There is a bottle of KBS in the fridge now, pulled up from the beer cellar (okay - really a shelf in the basement) for tomorrow's game.

My apologies, but it looks like the Final Four is as far as we will go this year. 

that KBS will taste alot better if you let it warm up some after taking it out of the fridge, I'm sure you do that anyway but thought I'd mention just in case

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I'll gladly trade KBS for Dark Lord if anyone gets any
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on March 24, 2011, 10:52:31 AM
  They don't say how many each person is alotted that has tickets. I've heard is usually 2-3 bottles per person. Should be a drunk fest, but looking forward to it outside of the fact that it is in Munster, IN.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 24, 2011, 12:05:23 PM
  They don't say how many each person is alotted that has tickets. I've heard is usually 2-3 bottles per person. Should be a drunk fest, but looking forward to it outside of the fact that it is in Munster, IN.

Last year we got 4 bottles per ticket and I believe this year is the same. Though last year we were allowed to purchase 1 bottle of 2009 if you wanted to - which I did.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on March 25, 2011, 09:50:30 AM
that KBS will taste alot better if you let it warm up some after taking it out of the fridge, I'm sure you do that anyway but thought I'd mention just in case


I had not been doing that.  My ignorance is exposed and now I hang my head in shame.  But you have helped teach me something new.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 25, 2011, 10:34:37 AM
I had not been doing that.  My ignorance is exposed and now I hang my head in shame.  But you have helped teach me something new.

Had some KBS last night at a local watering hole - outstanding as usual. I actually prefer it to Dark Lord.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 25, 2011, 11:40:58 AM
I drank one during the Xavier game and then one during the Syracuse game.  There is a bottle of KBS in the fridge now, pulled up from the beer cellar (okay - really a shelf in the basement) for tomorrow's game.

My apologies, but it looks like the Final Four is as far as we will go this year. 

Somebody get HS some more KBS!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on March 25, 2011, 12:00:25 PM
Had some KBS last night at a local watering hole - outstanding as usual. I actually prefer it to Dark Lord.

Headed out to Roman's? I was thinking about it, but it's like a 45 minute bus ride for me... and I don't enjoy riding the bus very much.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 25, 2011, 12:52:22 PM
Headed out to Roman's? I was thinking about it, but it's like a 45 minute bus ride for me... and I don't enjoy riding the bus very much.

it's a 6 minute walk for me. bruno at the palms also has/had a barrel too. the only 2 the city got. was talking with brian about it last night and mike is trying to get a 2nd barrel.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 25, 2011, 02:09:41 PM
it's a 6 minute walk for me. bruno at the palms also has/had a barrel too. the only 2 the city got. was talking with brian about it last night and mike is trying to get a 2nd barrel.

you must practically be my brother's neighbor, he can walk to Romans also (lives on E. Cora)


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUFC9295 on March 25, 2011, 05:06:44 PM
Good luck beers for the game?  I always have a Milwaukee product during.  High life, as a rule of thumb.  Suggestions?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 01, 2011, 11:03:11 PM
Made a trip to Discount tonight, and got some interesting info. First of all, they still had plenty of Dogfish still on  the shelves, because apparently Beechwood is still getting product from DFH. So anyone looking to stock up, there's still time.

Here's the interesting part. Beechwood is looking into legal action against DFH because of a contract that was in place. So we might not be cut off quite yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on April 01, 2011, 11:06:29 PM
Made a trip to Discount tonight, and got some interesting info. First of all, they still had plenty of Dogfish still on  the shelves, because apparently Beechwood is still getting product from DFH. So anyone looking to stock up, there's still time.

Here's the interesting part. Beechwood is looking into legal action against DFH because of a contract that was in place. So we might not be cut off quite yet.


Did you notice if they had the new New Glarus in yet... the IIPA?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on April 01, 2011, 11:06:30 PM
Had some Chimay Blue last night, still wonderful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 01, 2011, 11:24:27 PM
Did you notice if they had the new New Glarus in yet... the IIPA?

I wasn't looking for it, so I'm not sure.

Just checked the website, they're doing a tasting of NG beers tomorrow and it was on the list. So I'm guessing they'll have it there for sale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 02, 2011, 08:15:51 AM
Here's the interesting part. Beechwood is looking into legal action against DFH because of a contract that was in place. So we might not be cut off quite yet.


Mike Roman said the exact same thing.

Took a trip to Three Floyds on Friday for lunch and got to try both Zombie Dust and Topless Wytch.

Zombie Dust is an IPA featuring just Cirta hops. Hit was good with a strong a orange / grapefruit flavor - but not as good as Gumball Head IMO.

Topless Wytch is a porter they made which was FANTASTIC. Lots of chocolate and coffee flavors in it and 9.0% to boot. Loved it.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on April 02, 2011, 08:32:46 AM
Off to NERAX, a Cask Beer Festival in a bit here in Somerville, MA.  60-70 casks flowing at any one time.


Here is the American List.
http://www.nerax.org/nerax/us-beers.html

And ones from the UK.
http://www.nerax.org/nerax/uk-beers.html

Boo yah.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 11, 2011, 03:45:17 PM
Tried the New Glarus IIPA this weekend on tap at Romans'. I hated. Didn't even finish the glass. The beer was obnoxiously sweet with not enough hop flavor to balance it out. Complete failure.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on April 11, 2011, 05:09:56 PM
Tried the New Glarus IIPA this weekend on tap at Romans'. I hated. Didn't even finish the glass. The beer was obnoxiously sweet with not enough hop flavor to balance it out. Complete failure.

Got kicked out of Romans this week, guess he doesn't really like young college-aged kids. Can't really say I blame him.

We walked in, ordered beers, and sat in the corner. We weren't doing anything wrong except my friend was pretty visibly drunk. When my friend went to order his second beer, Roman told him, "Nope, when your buddy(me) finishes his beer you guys are out the door." Then someone came out and wrote down our license plate when we left, luckily we had a DD. Weird experience to say the least, the bar definitely had a towny 'we don't take kindly to strangers' feel to it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 11, 2011, 05:33:55 PM
Got kicked out of Romans this week, guess he doesn't really like young college-aged kids. Can't really say I blame him.

We walked in, ordered beers, and sat in the corner. We weren't doing anything wrong except my friend was pretty visibly drunk. When my friend went to order his second beer, Roman told him, "Nope, when your buddy(me) finishes his beer you guys are out the door." Then someone came out and wrote down our license plate when we left, luckily we had a DD. Weird experience to say the least, the bar definitely had a towny 'we don't take kindly to strangers' feel to it.

You got to meet Mike. You have to act like an adult or he will boot you out unless he knows you. It is a neighborhood tavern not Murphs. Also, if you have a lot of people ordering "ball wash" aka any domestic macro beer you are to be made example of.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on April 11, 2011, 06:10:02 PM
UGH.  Don't live in MKE anymore, but was excited to visit Roman's next time I was home.  Chili, make it sound kinda hipster in-crowd, too cool for school kinda place.  If I order a Miller Lite in that place (not that I would), I will be made an example of?  I would hope anyone that comes in there, who orders something off their menu will be treated with respect. I don't need some beer jockey with a chain wallet telling me what to drink.

Now drunken college kids, that's another story.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 11, 2011, 10:19:01 PM
Tried the New Glarus IIPA this weekend on tap at Romans'. I hated. Didn't even finish the glass. The beer was obnoxiously sweet with not enough hop flavor to balance it out. Complete failure.

Hmmm. I had a sample of it last weekend and thought it was pretty good. I'll have to have a full glass soon to check it out.

Did buy a sixer of the Two Women lager. Very solid pilsner, a bit more full bodied than I expected but still very drinkable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 12, 2011, 09:47:01 AM
UGH.  Don't live in MKE anymore, but was excited to visit Roman's next time I was home.  Chili, make it sound kinda hipster in-crowd, too cool for school kinda place.  If I order a Miller Lite in that place (not that I would), I will be made an example of?  I would hope anyone that comes in there, who orders something off their menu will be treated with respect. I don't need some beer jockey with a chain wallet telling me what to drink.

Now drunken college kids, that's another story.

This is not a hipster spot Mike Roman is FAR from a hipster. He actually just has a huge ego. I mean Kelvin Sampson and his wife are regulars. I think it's a perfect bar. 3 big HD TV's, great cigar collection, best tap beer selection in Milwaukee, great whiskey collect.....but it can be a big beer snob bar. But that is the point, the reason people go there is to drink the good beers. The bar has been there for about 70 years and has been a craft beer bar now like 20+.,...hell I got tossed the first time I went bc my friends were too hammered after the MU vs. ND game two years ago. You live and you learn and either you love the bar or you dont.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on April 12, 2011, 10:15:15 AM
This is not a hipster spot Mike Roman is FAR from a hipster. He actually just has a huge ego. I mean Kelvin Sampson and his wife are regulars. I think it's a perfect bar. 3 big HD TV's, great cigar collection, best tap beer selection in Milwaukee, great whiskey collect.....but it can be a big beer snob bar. But that is the point, the reason people go there is to drink the good beers. The bar has been there for about 70 years and has been a craft beer bar now like 20+.,...hell I got tossed the first time I went bc my friends were too hammered after the MU vs. ND game two years ago. You live and you learn and either you love the bar or you dont.

How many handles do they typically have at Romans?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 12, 2011, 10:16:40 AM
How many handles do they typically have at Romans?

http://www.romanspub.com/ (http://www.romanspub.com/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on April 12, 2011, 10:17:36 AM
I like Romans but Mike has his days that he can be moody. Mrs. HB often will drink Miller Lite at Romans, not a problem for the little lady from Mike.

I also tried the NG IIPA but need to have more to judge, kind of a bad time for the first bottle.

I picked up a bottle of DFH Squall and the DFH 90 minute IPA and honestly like the Squall more
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on April 12, 2011, 02:58:30 PM
http://www.romanspub.com/ (http://www.romanspub.com/)

Thanks for the link.

My buddy (a fellow Scooper) and I will be popping our Romans cherry this weekend. Being from out of town it's always good to hit unique spots back in Milwaukee. Looking forward to my pints.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 29, 2011, 02:20:02 PM
Are any other Scoopers heading to Dark Lord Day tomorrow? I have "A" Group tickets. I am personally looking forward to the new set up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on April 29, 2011, 02:22:12 PM
Are any other Scoopers heading to Dark Lord Day tomorrow? I have "A" Group tickets. I am personally looking forward to the new set up.

no but I wouldn't mind trading for a bottle to see what it's like

have fun and don't drink too much while in line  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BallBoy on April 29, 2011, 02:47:01 PM
Are any other Scoopers heading to Dark Lord Day tomorrow? I have "A" Group tickets. I am personally looking forward to the new set up.

I will be there with two A and two C tickets.  I am looking forward to tasting it as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on April 29, 2011, 05:46:20 PM
Ill be there 8ppl all with C tickets. How packed is it? I've never been.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on April 29, 2011, 06:09:06 PM
Let me know in anyone wants to trade me a bottle of Dark Lord. I have '09 and '10 Abyss, and other stuff you may be interested in.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on May 01, 2011, 08:00:10 PM
Sam Adams Millenium is solid...more port style than beer.  Wax sealed, etc.

Fuller's Vintage Ale is about $25/bottle, but Y U M M Y!

Left Hand Milk Stout is the BOMB....coffee and chocolate in a delicious American Stout.

Bell's Oberon is a solid American White Ale.

Bear Republic Racer V if you like hoppy IPAs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on May 01, 2011, 08:19:09 PM
Sam Adams Millenium is solid...more port style than beer.  Wax sealed, etc.


How'd you manage to get Millenium? I think that stuff is super rare, and supposedly tastes great.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on May 02, 2011, 01:03:47 AM
Left Hand Milk Stout is the BOMB....coffee and chocolate in a delicious American Stout.

I've probably said it elsewhere in this thread, but since I drive by left hand twice a day, and it's in stumbling distance from my house...milk stout on tap is so much better than the bottled form...if you've got a bunch of it around, try a car bomb with MS instead of the usual Guinness...and if you happen to get by left hand's tap house they frequently have MS on nitro as a special treat.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 02, 2011, 08:24:19 AM
I've probably said it elsewhere in this thread, but since I drive by left hand twice a day, and it's in stumbling distance from my house...milk stout on tap is so much better than the bottled form...if you've got a bunch of it around, try a car bomb with MS instead of the usual Guinness...and if you happen to get by left hand's tap house they frequently have MS on nitro as a special treat.

Nitro MS is the best. In Milwaukee both Comet Cafe and Roman's pour it this way. I know Comet tried to replace Guiness full time on nitro with MS but couldn't because the Milwaukee distributor is such a POS and couldn't make deliveries on time. But yes, it is a fantastic brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on May 02, 2011, 10:08:53 AM
I've tried both of the recent New Glarus Unplugged, er, Thumbprint series, the IIPA was OK but not that special IMO but I do like the Imperial Weizen quite a bit, very hoppy for a weizen, maybe too much so for what some expect in a wheat but I love hops!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on May 02, 2011, 10:55:23 AM
I worked for a distributor that sold Sam Adams until 2003.  Millennium was the only thing they produced ever really worth drinking.

Left Hand Milk Stout is amazing on draft.  Especially nitro pour.  They make some great hop beers too.  Mix it as a black and tan or with the sacrilegious berry weiss (or Fruili) and get a chocolate covered strawberry.  Much better than Young's too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on May 02, 2011, 11:21:54 AM
Through a Beer School event, I discovered Wild Onion's Paddy Pale Ale.  Wild Onion is a pub and brewery in Lake Barrington, IL.  Their beers are sold in cans, and the Pale Ale is well worth checking out.  Just a solid, solid beer.

http://onionpub.com/Ill%20and%20Wis%20Retailers.pdf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 02, 2011, 12:54:38 PM
I picked up a bottle of DFH Squall and the DFH 90 minute IPA and honestly like the Squall more

I'd agree with this. Tried the Squall last month and it was wonderful. Also had a bottle of the IIPA, and had some mixed feelings. I know New Glarus is all about sessionability, but I think they sacrificed some of what makes the style good. Was a little too sweet for my liking. Also tried a few others-

Victory Golden Monkey- Not a bad tripel. Needed more of that belgian spice to it though. Hides the 9.5% pretty well though.

Bell's Oarsman- A light wheat ale, with some distinct tartness. Not a bad summer option. Light and drinkable, but nothing terribly remarkable about it.

O'so Big O- Another lighter wheat ale. Decent wheat presence with some citrusy notes. Compares a bit to the Wheat Monkey from Lakefront.

O'so Dank- Imperial Red. Very interesting beer. Not barrel aged, but had some of those flavors in it. Strong hop presence, but then a heavy malty sweetness to balance. Not one you can drink all night, but enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 03, 2011, 11:35:31 PM
Sipping on a Special Reserve Black Ale from Dark Horse Brewing right now. Kind of a portery-stouty monstrosity. But it's delicious. Pours pitch black, with a tan head. Lots of roasted malt and coffee up front, smoothed out by some chocolate notes. This beer hides its 7.5% ABV very well. This is the third beer I've had from Dark Horse, and I've really liked all of them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on May 04, 2011, 10:23:07 AM
Left Hand "Fade To Black" is a stout that pours like a porter too, I LOVE IT!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 10, 2011, 08:45:08 AM
Left Hand "Fade To Black" is a stout that pours like a porter too, I LOVE IT!

Agreed, their Milk Stout is even better, imo.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on May 10, 2011, 10:14:26 AM
Agreed, their Milk Stout is even better, imo.

My absolute favorite beer.  But what is this nitro pour/tap that people are referring to?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on May 10, 2011, 11:37:49 AM
My absolute favorite beer.  But what is this nitro pour/tap that people are referring to?

They tap the beer with nitrogen rather than CO2. It makes the beer really creamy and smooth.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ari Gold on May 10, 2011, 12:53:26 PM
Had a tripel karmeliet the other day. Amazing flavor absolutely delicious
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on May 11, 2011, 10:06:46 AM
had a few at the Sugar Maple last night

O'so dominator Doppel, meh, just OK IMO
Southern Tier 2X-IPA, liked this one quite a bit, very hoppy (Cascade hops?)
Adrienne mentioned that Avery was pulling out of WI now and recomended their DuganA IIPA especially since it was their last keg of Avery, also was very good but no where near as hopped up as I am accustomed to for an Imperial IPA, more like a normal IPA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUHoopsfan6 on May 12, 2011, 12:18:45 PM
Leinenkugels Creamy Dark is my personal favorite at this moment.  Here are some reviews http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/710/2940

If I have to drink something else I grab a Miller High Life.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on May 13, 2011, 12:34:57 AM
Leinenkugels Creamy Dark is my personal favorite at this moment.  Here are some reviews http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/710/2940

If I have to drink something else I grab a Miller High Life.

You've got a pretty tough crowd here with those.  Folks on this thread (myself included) tend to go with some pretty unique craft beers.  Of all the Leinie's beers, I'd say that Creamy Dark is my favorite, but given the choice there are a ton of other beers I'd try. 

If you want another great, local, dark lager from people that know their beer, try the Furthermore Oscura (Spring Green, WI), or Stone's Bombastic (not local, but Stone is a fantastic brewery).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 13, 2011, 01:05:18 AM
Folks on this thread (myself included) tend to go with some pretty unique craft beers.  Of all the Leinie's beers, I'd say that Creamy Dark is my favorite, but given the choice there are a ton of other beers I'd try.

Agreed that Creamy Dark is the only Leinie I'd drink. Seems to be the only one that they haven't screwed with.

To MUHoopsfan6- If you're interested in trying some new styles/breweries, take a read through this thread. I've given my thoughts on a lot of beers in here, and also have tried a lot based on others recommendations. Leinie's is a decent starting point, but there's a lot out there to explore if you want. Cheers!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on May 13, 2011, 02:48:49 AM
Leinie's Big Eddy was pretty good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on May 13, 2011, 09:43:51 AM
finally got my hands on a Left Hand Milk Stout - holy hell. believe the hype. its remarkably smooth the whole way, almost like the entire beer is made of a foamy head. unreal.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 13, 2011, 07:44:18 PM
finally got my hands on a Left Hand Milk Stout - holy hell. believe the hype. its remarkably smooth the whole way, almost like the entire beer is made of a foamy head. unreal.

Now, if you like Left Hand's Milk Stout, try to find a place with Lake Louie's Milk Stout on tap.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on May 17, 2011, 02:03:09 PM
Now, if you like Left Hand's Milk Stout, try to find a place with Lake Louie's Milk Stout on tap.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamazing.

any info on where to get into this kind of thing in mke? im moving back for the summer after a faaar too long 2 year hiatus. i plan on losing my Romans virginity shortly after getting back. any other similar spots i should be looking into but wouldnt have known about as an undergrad?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on May 17, 2011, 02:13:13 PM
any info on where to get into this kind of thing in mke? im moving back for the summer after a faaar too long 2 year hiatus. i plan on losing my Romans virginity shortly after getting back. any other similar spots i should be looking into but wouldnt have known about as an undergrad?

The Sugar Maple keeps an updated list of American craft brewst:  http://mysugarmaple.com/
Bomb Shelter is slightly closer to downtown: http://www.bombshelterbar.com/
Comet cafe isn't as prolific but still good over on the near east side: http://www.thecometcafe.com/COMETdrinks.html
Finally if you're out in the Tosa/Stallis area you can try Benno's (don't let the 1990's era Tripod site fool you, Benno's has a very solid draft selection):  http://bennosbar.tripod.com/ 

Each place has it's own unique ambiance and I'd say try them all and see what you like the best.  For pure selection, I'd say Roman's and Sugar Maple are the best, but sometimes not the most convenient selections.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 17, 2011, 03:56:42 PM
Romans and Sugar Maple are both excellent for tap selections. Both can be a bit pricey, Roman's is usually more expensive.

I love the Bomb Shelter. They keep a small selection on tap, but their bottled beer selection is huge, and usually kept pretty current. Reasonable prices as well.

Stubby's on Humboldt has a decent selection of taps as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on May 17, 2011, 04:07:51 PM
It's been my experience that the beer list is not updated much at mysugarmaple.com, Romans does a much better job keeping his site current but I love going to both
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on May 17, 2011, 04:17:34 PM
Been out a lot since last Saturday for Minnesota Craft Beer Week which runs through Friday.  Any recommendations at all, especially for Thursday and Friday?

http://mncraftbeerweek.com/eventcalendar.aspx

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 17, 2011, 05:07:54 PM
Romans and Sugar Maple are both excellent for tap selections. Both can be a bit pricey, Roman's is usually more expensive.

I love the Bomb Shelter. They keep a small selection on tap, but their bottled beer selection is huge, and usually kept pretty current. Reasonable prices as well.

Stubby's on Humboldt has a decent selection of taps as well.

One major difference between Sugar Maple and Romans is atmosphere. Sugar Maple is like a sterile dentist office devoid of anything (no tv's and an odd feel). Romans (while Mike can be an ass until you get to know him) has 3 large flat screens with sports and usually has good music like the Stones or Springsteen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on May 17, 2011, 08:09:14 PM
One major difference between Sugar Maple and Romans is atmosphere. Sugar Maple is like a sterile dentist office devoid of anything (no tv's and an odd feel). Romans (while Mike can be an ass until you get to know him) has 3 large flat screens with sports and usually has good music like the Stones or Springsteen.

True.  Unless you are at Sugar Maple when the live music is playing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 18, 2011, 05:20:32 AM
any info on where to get into this kind of thing in mke? im moving back for the summer after a faaar too long 2 year hiatus. i plan on losing my Romans virginity shortly after getting back. any other similar spots i should be looking into but wouldnt have known about as an undergrad?

Seasonals:
MILK STOUT ~ Released in November to March
A ‘sweet’ style of English Stout made with Lactose from Cow’s Milk. Possessing high amounts
of rich, creamy flavors. Unfiltered. Originally produced by English brewers in the late 1800’s..

I'm not sure they have it in Milwaukee... I can name two places in Madison that have it.

http://www.lakelouie.com/lakelouie2008_003.htm
also, if you go to their "Beer Styles" page, I have 6 Dino's sitting in my fridge right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on May 19, 2011, 09:30:42 AM
  Had 2 Left Hand Milk Stouts last night and its a light stout, goes down smooth, session beer. If anyone is interested in Dark Lord Russian Imperial Stout 2011 PM me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on May 19, 2011, 01:06:43 PM
  Had 2 Left Hand Milk Stouts last night and its a light stout, goes down smooth, session beer. If anyone is interested in Dark Lord Russian Imperial Stout 2011 PM me.

PM sent
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on May 19, 2011, 09:46:50 PM
If you're in Kenosha, all three http://www.mikelikesbeer.com/ (http://www.mikelikesbeer.com/) are amazing pubs with a ginormous beer menu.  Captain Mike's also has EXCELLENT burgers, while Highway Mikes (94 and hwy 50) has great food as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Skatastrophy on May 26, 2011, 01:47:00 PM
I thought you guys might like this:  The many types of beer. (http://popchartlab.com/collections/prints/products/the-very-many-varieties-of-beer)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: muwarrior87 on June 02, 2011, 09:30:15 PM
Went on Sprecher's brewery tour last Saturday and had a couple good beers. Their Summer Pils reminded me of Bitburger. Had a good flavor and strong finish for a pilsner. Also a big fan of the Pub Brown Ale. The only thing I can compare it to from experience is Newcastle but was a lot smoother and more balanced.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on June 06, 2011, 11:37:16 PM
finally got my hands on a Left Hand Milk Stout - holy hell. believe the hype. its remarkably smooth the whole way, almost like the entire beer is made of a foamy head. unreal.

Had this on nitro at Sheffield's in Chicago this past weekend for the first time.  Beer lives up to the hype, really creamy and definitely a stout you can drink as a session beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 10, 2011, 10:43:23 AM
the owner of Tyranena is a bit upset about some shenanigans in Madison, and rightly so

http://www.tyranena.com/BadNewsMotion414.pdf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on June 10, 2011, 10:52:41 AM
Had the Tyranena Imperial Rye Porter Aged in Rye Whiskey Barrels. I hadn't drank in about a month as I prepared for a test I was taking June 4th, and this was my first beer after the test was over. Holy hell, it reminded me why I got into craft in the first place. This beer was so smooth, creamy, and delicious. It probably helps that I am a huge fan of rye beers to begin with. I definitely recommend if you are in to barrel aged beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on June 10, 2011, 10:58:57 AM
the owner of Tyranena is a bit upset about some shenanigans in Madison, and rightly so

http://www.tyranena.com/BadNewsMotion414.pdf


Interesting... this post reminds me of a similar petition I received regarding Illinois.  On the surface, it appears to be the same type of shenanigans.

http://maildogmanager.com/page.html?client=aobhtml%3A%3Acid%3D3026%3A%3Adrct%3D1

/puts on tinfoil hat... CONSPIRACY!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 10, 2011, 11:07:42 AM
Interesting... this post reminds me of a similar petition I received regarding Illinois.  On the surface, it appears to be the same type of shenanigans.

http://maildogmanager.com/page.html?client=aobhtml%3A%3Acid%3D3026%3A%3Adrct%3D1

/puts on tinfoil hat... CONSPIRACY!

They are almost the same bill but here MC is using Bud as the scapegoat. Wisconsin Brewing Laws already suck nuts, if anything they should become less restrictive like Michigan to spurn more growth. Now only if Wisconsin craft breweries were as good as those in Michigan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on June 10, 2011, 05:18:08 PM
They are almost the same bill but here MC is using Bud as the scapegoat. Wisconsin Brewing Laws already suck nuts, if anything they should become less restrictive like Michigan to spurn more growth. Now only if Wisconsin craft breweries were as good as those in Michigan.

+1, horrible
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MelissaDaisy99 on June 10, 2011, 08:17:33 PM
I have to put this out there as well- for anyone wanting to try a wide variety of American craft beer, Sugar Maple in Bay View is a must. 60 beers on tap, including many that are next to impossible to find in WI.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on June 10, 2011, 08:42:10 PM
I have to put this out there as well- for anyone wanting to try a wide variety of American craft beer, Sugar Maple in Bay View is a must. 60 beers on tap, including many that are next to impossible to find in WI.

Yup that place has been widely discussed in this thread. It's a pretty neat bar.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 10, 2011, 09:18:47 PM
I have to put this out there as well- for anyone wanting to try a wide variety of American craft beer, Sugar Maple in Bay View is a must. 60 beers on tap, including many that are next to impossible to find in WI.

Sugar Maple, while having a lot of taps, has the atmosphere of a dentists office. I will continue to take my business down KK to Roman's - which while having less taps, usually has a better selection. Mike has better relationships than Bruno does.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on June 10, 2011, 11:27:49 PM
Tried a few beers recently-

Capital Imperial Dopplebock- Caught this on sale at Ray's as it was going out of season. The cold spring weather has kept it relevant. I'm drawn to any bock from Capital, and this was very good. Deep reddish-brown color, light head, with a sweet malt nose. Very deep sweet toffee flavor, with some spice and light bitterness near the end. It's a big, boozy beer, but still very nice.

Milw. Brewing Pressing 78 Porter- Had this on tap, and was a little disappointed. Pretty thin, not a whole lot of depth to it. Easy enough to drink, but expected more robust flavor in a porter. The Baltic Porter of theirs is much better.

Ommegang Belgian Pale Ale- This is the first beer of this style I've had and I really enjoyed it. Poured a wonderful golden color with a nice head. A great mix of fruitiness, a little of the funky spicy notes from the Belgian yeast, and then the hops balanced it out perfectly. Very crisp and clean.

Ommegang Rare Vos- After the pale ale, I had to go with another one of their beers. This one was just as good, and I'm not typically a big fan of the Belgian style. Beautiful hazy copper color, with a big fruit aroma. Again, perfectly balanced sweetness and bitterness. It was outstanding.

Dark Horse Crooked Tree IPA- Thanks again to Henry Sugar who recommended them, I can safely say that Dark Horse is shooting up my favorite brewery list. This was the perfect IPA. Enough hops, sessionable at 6.0%, and wonderfully balanced. Can't believe it took me this long to try this beer. Definitely my new go-to IPA.

Dark Horse Raspberry Ale- Picked up a single of it because it seemed intriguing. I'm not a huge fruit beer guy, but based on how good their other beers were, I had to try it. Hazy orange color, with a very nice fruit aroma. Bready, malty, and accented nicely with the fruit. The raspberry notes were dead on, not too sweet and not too tart. Good summer beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 13, 2011, 01:48:37 PM
we were drinking beer for Jesus at St. John Vianney yesterday and I was once again reminded of my dislike for MGD  :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on June 14, 2011, 10:02:33 PM
Milwaukee Brewing Company tour - where is it? Their website strangely does not give out the GD address.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on June 14, 2011, 11:59:49 PM
613 S. Second St.

I forget what the cross street is, but it's across the street from the gas station/gyro joint.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 15, 2011, 09:01:13 AM
Milwaukee Brewing Company tour - where is it? Their website strangely does not give out the GD address.

Might want to get your eyes checked, the address is at the bottom of the webpage.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 15, 2011, 09:58:11 AM
Milwaukee Brewing Company tour - where is it? Their website strangely does not give out the GD address.

have fun and maybe also a designated driver because their beer really flows freely  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on June 15, 2011, 11:45:23 AM
Might want to get your eyes checked, the address is at the bottom of the webpage.



Sonnofabitch, you're right.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on June 15, 2011, 11:45:40 AM
have fun and maybe also a designated driver because their beer really flows freely  ;)

It'll be a short drive to Summerfest afterwards.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on June 15, 2011, 02:26:11 PM
I suggest a short walk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on June 15, 2011, 09:55:45 PM
Built a six pack this weekend, and had a few of them already-

Victory Yakima Glory- I don't know if I got an old bottle, but the one I had wasn't like the reviews I read. Hops were there, but a little more muted. Aroma was nothing special. It was a decent beer. Would like to try it fresh to see if there's any difference.

Ale Asylum Bedlam!- Their Belgian IPA. It was fantastic. All the right flavors, and hid the 7.5% very well. Perfectly balanced, nice fruit/spice notes with bright hops. Really enjoyed this one, definitely recommend it.

Central Waters Illumination- Their DIPA, definitely a beer for hopheads. Big hop aroma, and big hop flavor. Pretty sweet for a double, and the booze was a bit harsh. It got better as it warmed, though. Not bad for the style, but there are better ones out there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on June 15, 2011, 10:20:38 PM
I suggest a short walk.

I'll just hail for a rickshaw then.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on June 21, 2011, 09:01:27 AM
FYI>>>


Per their Facebook Page

Founders Brewing Co. (Official)
Tomorrow night (6/22, 7:30pm) meet us at the Bomb Shelter in Milwaukee for a tasting!
Check the link for the beer list.
Bomb Shelter Tasting | Founders Brewing Company http://www.foundersbrewing.com/?event=bomb-shelter-tasting (http://www.foundersbrewing.com/?event=bomb-shelter-tasting)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 21, 2011, 01:05:37 PM
^ thanks for the alert - looking at the Bomb Shelter's site it looks like it would be a minimum $17 in fees to participate although that does include beer and an annual Suds club membership

me and a bud or two might make it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: karavotsos on July 15, 2011, 10:03:34 PM
Lagunitas Lucky 13.  Lagunitas knows what its doing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on July 21, 2011, 11:41:37 PM
Tried some summery beers lately-

Milwaukee Brewing Co. Saison- Not a bad representation of the style. A little lighter than most saisons, could have used a bit more of that fruity/yeasty taste to it.

Sprecher Summer Pils- Really solid Pilsner. Nice, grainy malt taste, but it had more hops than most domestic pilsners. I'd buy this again.

Victory Summer Love- Nice blonde ale. Had some pilsner characteristics but some bright, citrusy notes. Good summer beer on a hot day.

Pyramid Apricot Ale- Was on special at the bar, and I can see why they were trying to move it. Very, very sweet. Needed more wheat to balance the fruit. I'd much rather have a Magic Hat #9.

New Belgium Somersault- Pleasantly surprised by this beer. Light, but not lacking in complexity. Fruity, citrusy, but balanced with a nice grainy malt taste. Excellent.

Abita Andygator- Decent Helles Bock. Lots of malt, but the hops balanced it out pretty well. Hides the 8% ABV nicely.

Southern Tier Hopsun- Love this beer. Taste profile is similar to Gumballhead, but a little bit lighter. Big hop aroma, but it played well with the wheat. Looking forward to knocking a few of these back this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU7703 on July 25, 2011, 05:57:07 PM
Did anyone go to the Milwaukee Brewfest last year?  It is coming up this weekend (July 30) and I was wondering if anyone had any impressions from last year?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on July 25, 2011, 07:37:34 PM
Did anyone go to the Milwaukee Brewfest last year?  It is coming up this weekend (July 30) and I was wondering if anyone had any impressions from last year?

i will be attending again this year. last year wasnt bad for a first year. they had way to few bathrooms but i am told they will have 10x more this year. also, they started to run out of beer early so dont come fashionably late.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on July 25, 2011, 07:38:15 PM
i will be attending again this year. last year wasnt bad for a first year. they had way to few bathrooms but i am told they will have 10x more this year. also, they started to run out of beer early so dont come fashionably late.

website?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU7703 on July 25, 2011, 07:42:02 PM
i will be attending again this year. last year wasnt bad for a first year. they had way to few bathrooms but i am told they will have 10x more this year. also, they started to run out of beer early so dont come fashionably late.

Thanks for the advice.  I'm planning on getting in a full 4 hours.

Website is...http://milwaukeebrewfest.com/welcome.html (http://milwaukeebrewfest.com/welcome.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on July 26, 2011, 09:11:08 AM
Thanks for the advice.  I'm planning on getting in a full 4 hours.

Website is...http://milwaukeebrewfest.com/welcome.html (http://milwaukeebrewfest.com/welcome.html)

Rats, I have a Brewers game on Saturday, so I won't be able to make it :( x100
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on August 01, 2011, 01:30:05 PM
Looking forward to trying this...anyone ever have any?

(http://www.stonebrew.com/media/homepage_slideshow/slides/beers/greenteaipa/homepage_slide.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: g0lden3agle on August 02, 2011, 04:05:35 PM
What were people's thoughts on BrewFest? Besides having the humungous line to get into the actual event I had a very good experience.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on August 02, 2011, 05:29:59 PM
What were people's thoughts on BrewFest? Besides having the humungous line to get into the actual event I had a very good experience.

I had a good time....and it was run infinitely better than last  year. Long lines at the beginning of beerfests are just something you have to deal with. This line was better than the ones you will see in Madison or Racine - so no complaints here, only had to wait like 15 minutes.

The bathroom issue and the amount of beer issue both fixed over last year. Longest wait I had to pee was like 2 minutes. This was fantastic.

I was also happy with most breweries. A little disappointed with Bells only having Oberon (which I do not like) and Two Hearted (which is always in my fridge). I really wanted to try the Oarsman. Loved seeing Bear Republic there because, well, they make fantastic beer. Racer 5 is in my top 5 beers to drink period. Southern Tiers main beers are nothing to write home about - their strong seasonal ales are much better. North Coasts Old Rasputin was a VERY pleasant surprise to see. It's not stout season in my mind, but was damn happy to see this beer. Tried some Lefthand IPA - it was disgusting. Will stick to their Milk Stout. Upland had Dragonfly there - and like I always say about Upland, "it's the only good thing to come out of Bloomington".

Breweries I wish were there are Three Floyds, Goose and Founders. And I was also surprised to not see New Glarus even though I am not a fan.

All in all, a great day of beer. I am looking forward to next year again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 13, 2011, 04:39:36 PM
Sipping on a Unibroue - Maudite

Fan-freaking-tastic.  Malty, full of alcohol, slightly citrus.  just great overall.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on August 18, 2011, 11:49:02 AM
I'm playing hookie from my job tomorrow to take the hard hat tour at New Glarus brewery with the wife, really looking forward to this since I had to reserve our spot (only 15 people/week) several months ago. I'm hoping they have a little something different at the R&D brewery for us to sample.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: BubbaWilliams on August 18, 2011, 01:01:41 PM
I'm playing hookie from my job tomorrow to take the hard hat tour at New Glarus brewery with the wife, really looking forward to this since I had to reserve our spot (only 15 people/week) several months ago. I'm hoping they have a little something different at the R&D brewery for us to sample.
How does one go about reserving a spot?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on August 18, 2011, 04:02:25 PM
How does one go about reserving a spot?

AFAIK the only way is on their website here: http://www.newglarusbrewing.com/index.cfm/hht/tour/

the next openings are Sept. 9 from the looks of it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on August 21, 2011, 04:17:23 PM
Had a summer solstice from Anderson Valley Brewing Company yesterday.  I really really liked it. Its predictably a summer beer, but is velvety smooth with a huge toasted marshmallow aftertaste. I know, that sounds kind of like wine-o BS, but you've got to try it to believe it. The damn thing tastes like a campfire mallow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on September 16, 2011, 07:03:47 PM
Grand Rapids, Michigan, September 1, 2011—Founders Brewing Co. Vice President/Director of Marketing Dave Engbers announced last month that the highly anticipated Canadian Breakfast Stout (CBS) will be the second release in the company’s 750mL “Backstage Series”. It will be released to the market on October 3, 2011, with a taproom release party on October 1.

The taproom release at 235 Grandville Ave SE in downtown Grand Rapids will begin at 11 a.m. on October 1. There will be about 1700 bottles available for purchase at $18 each. A strict limit of two (2) bottles per person will apply, and all bottles will be available on a first-come, first-served basis. Because a line is expected to form before 11 a.m., numbers will be handed out so that the line can remain intact once the taproom doors open. CBS will be featured on draft, and CBS merchandise will be available in the Founders company store, which is on the north end of the taproom. As with all Founders specialty products, growler fills will not be available for CBS.

There has been a great deal of anticipation and speculation regarding the upcoming release after the success of Blushing Monk, the series’ debut, earlier this year. Canadian Breakfast Stout is the epitome of why Founders launched the Backstage Series: it brings some of the brewery’s most sought-after beers, which have been available primarily at the taproom or at a few select events, to a much larger audience.

Canadian Breakfast Stout is an Imperial Stout brewed with a blend of coffees and imported chocolates, then aged in spent bourbon barrels that have most recently been aging pure Michigan maple syrup. The final product has had stellar reviews and is currently the fifth highest rated beer in the world on www.BeerAdvocate.com.

“Releasing small specialty batches is a great way for us to connect to our core beer enthusiast,” Engbers explains. “Fundamentally, we are a small brewery, and we love to do things our own way. This isn’t about flooding the shelves with a beer that we hope people will try; it’s about producing the best damn beer we can brew and offering it to those enthusiasts who have supported our passion for great beer.”

The company is not revealing any additional releases in the series, but Engbers says they will consist of many of the “popular one-offs” that have been offered in the taproom over the years and have become favorites among patrons and brewery staff. “I think part of what people love about Founders, besides our beer, is that we listen to what they are saying,” says President Mike Stevens. “With our new line, now we can offer them more of what they’ve been asking for.”

The company expects to release one more product in the 2011 Backstage Series later this year.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 18, 2011, 06:27:59 PM
Grand Rapids, Michigan, September 1, 2011—Founders Brewing Co. Vice President/Director of Marketing Dave Engbers announced last month that the highly anticipated Canadian Breakfast Stout (CBS) will be the second release in the company’s 750mL “Backstage Series”. It will be released to the market on October 3, 2011, with a taproom release party on October 1.

The taproom release at 235 Grandville Ave SE in downtown Grand Rapids will begin at 11 a.m. on October 1. There will be about 1700 bottles available for purchase at $18 each. A strict limit of two (2) bottles per person will apply, and all bottles will be available on a first-come, first-served basis. Because a line is expected to form before 11 a.m., numbers will be handed out so that the line can remain intact once the taproom doors open. CBS will be featured on draft, and CBS merchandise will be available in the Founders company store, which is on the north end of the taproom. As with all Founders specialty products, growler fills will not be available for CBS.

There has been a great deal of anticipation and speculation regarding the upcoming release after the success of Blushing Monk, the series’ debut, earlier this year. Canadian Breakfast Stout is the epitome of why Founders launched the Backstage Series: it brings some of the brewery’s most sought-after beers, which have been available primarily at the taproom or at a few select events, to a much larger audience.

Canadian Breakfast Stout is an Imperial Stout brewed with a blend of coffees and imported chocolates, then aged in spent bourbon barrels that have most recently been aging pure Michigan maple syrup. The final product has had stellar reviews and is currently the fifth highest rated beer in the world on www.BeerAdvocate.com.

“Releasing small specialty batches is a great way for us to connect to our core beer enthusiast,” Engbers explains. “Fundamentally, we are a small brewery, and we love to do things our own way. This isn’t about flooding the shelves with a beer that we hope people will try; it’s about producing the best damn beer we can brew and offering it to those enthusiasts who have supported our passion for great beer.”

The company is not revealing any additional releases in the series, but Engbers says they will consist of many of the “popular one-offs” that have been offered in the taproom over the years and have become favorites among patrons and brewery staff. “I think part of what people love about Founders, besides our beer, is that we listen to what they are saying,” says President Mike Stevens. “With our new line, now we can offer them more of what they’ve been asking for.”

The company expects to release one more product in the 2011 Backstage Series later this year.



pipe down about this...some of us are trying to get our hands on it...shhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on September 19, 2011, 07:40:48 AM
meh, CBS doesn't do it for me - I have yet to try a beer with maple flavors that I liked - I'll take KBS over CBS everytime  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on October 07, 2011, 10:22:53 PM
Was anyone able to land some CBS? It was crazy around here, most of it sold before it even got off the trucks.

The Palm tapped a keg of it last night. I went down for a few glasses. Pretty damn good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 08, 2011, 12:59:40 AM
Had this on nitro at Sheffield's in Chicago this past weekend for the first time.  Beer lives up to the hype, really creamy and definitely a stout you can drink as a session beer.

Holy hell, the world is in trouble, technology is letting them bottle the Nitro stuff now...

www.lefthandbrewing.com/beers/milk-stout-nitro

Had one tonight - doesn't disappoint.  Here's a blog about it (not mine):
http://blogs.westword.com/cafesociety/2011/09/milk_stout_nitro_left_hand_bre.php
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on October 08, 2011, 09:26:32 AM
Rocky, where are you located.  The articles I've read on this say it's only going to be available in CO through the end of the year, and then they'll distribute to the rest of their states.

I might have to drive to Sheffield's today to get one on draft if they don't have it in Chi/Mke yet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on October 08, 2011, 09:33:52 AM
Holy hell, the world is in trouble, technology is letting them bottle the Nitro stuff now...

www.lefthandbrewing.com/beers/milk-stout-nitro

Had one tonight - doesn't disappoint.  Here's a blog about it (not mine):
http://blogs.westword.com/cafesociety/2011/09/milk_stout_nitro_left_hand_bre.php

Was gone at the restaurant I went to last night... I was disappointed that I had to settle for some FFF Dreadnaught.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on October 09, 2011, 12:34:03 AM
Holy hell, the world is in trouble, technology is letting them bottle the Nitro stuff now...

www.lefthandbrewing.com/beers/milk-stout-nitro

Had one tonight - doesn't disappoint.  Here's a blog about it (not mine):
http://blogs.westword.com/cafesociety/2011/09/milk_stout_nitro_left_hand_bre.php

oh. my. god.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on October 15, 2011, 02:56:41 PM
As it combines two of my favorite things (not the island) I picked up a 6-er of Arbor Brewing Company's Mackinac Island Fudge Stout the other day. It was... okay I guess. For the relatively hefty price tag and the promise of pounds upon pounds of fudge, I was pretty underwhelmed.  Its possible I was expecting too much, but it seemed like a pretty run of the mill stout out of a bottle to me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on October 15, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
Had a bomber of this last night...

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/16866/72975

MEH.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on October 17, 2011, 08:51:49 AM
I tried Guiness Black lager and New Glarus' Chocolate Abbey this weekend. Liked the black lager but the chocolate abbey not so much, just too much chocolate in there for my taste but I like to see New Glarus continue to mix it up with their Thumbprint series of brews.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on October 17, 2011, 03:53:03 PM
Had a bomber of this last night...

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/16866/72975

MEH.

This on draught is much, much better then the bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 17, 2011, 05:01:57 PM
Rocky, where are you located.  The articles I've read on this say it's only going to be available in CO through the end of the year, and then they'll distribute to the rest of their states.

Yes, I'm in CO, and worse, I have a 2 mile commute, which includes passing by Left Hand brewery to get between work and home.  So, I'm in Left Hand ground zero, and it sounds like the rest of the states are safe for another month or two.

They are selling the Nitro bottles for a premium, so it's more of a special treat, unless you're an addict.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on October 17, 2011, 05:06:19 PM
Yes, I'm in CO, and worse, I have a 2 mile commute, which includes passing by Left Hand brewery to get between work and home.  So, I'm in Left Hand ground zero, and it sounds like the rest of the states are safe for another month or two.

They are selling the Nitro bottles for a premium, so it's more of a special treat, unless you're an addict.

What's the premium? Also, could you include shipping to Northern Illinois into that premium? Also, could you include your time spent getting to the post office and sending said premium beer to me?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 18, 2011, 03:44:58 PM
What's the premium? Also, could you include shipping to Northern Illinois into that premium? Also, could you include your time spent getting to the post office and sending said premium beer to me?

If your in New Hampshire or North Dakota, you're all set.  But this is the only local place I found that can ship beer, and even then, two states isn't a very long list.  Probably time to make a road trip to CO!

http://www.liquormart.com/left-hand-milk-stout-nitro.html

p.s. - I should note that it's been a long time since i shopped liquor stores in other states, but often micro brew is cheaper here than Bud/Miller/Coors products.  So, $10 for a 6 pack is a premium to me, but might not be for you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on October 18, 2011, 03:46:55 PM
If your in New Hampshire or North Dakota, you're all set.  But this is the only local place I found that can ship beer, and even then, two states isn't a very long list.  Probably time to make a road trip to CO!

http://www.liquormart.com/left-hand-milk-stout-nitro.html

Maybe it's time for this Mpretty boy to set up a PO Box in NH.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on October 18, 2011, 04:39:56 PM
If your in New Hampshire or North Dakota, you're all set.  But this is the only local place I found that can ship beer, and even then, two states isn't a very long list.  Probably time to make a road trip to CO!

http://www.liquormart.com/left-hand-milk-stout-nitro.html

p.s. - I should note that it's been a long time since i shopped liquor stores in other states, but often micro brew is cheaper here than Bud/Miller/Coors products.  So, $10 for a 6 pack is a premium to me, but might not be for you.

$10 for a 6 pack of nitro stout is probably about $2-3 bucks cheaper than what it will sell for here in Chicago.  Most 6 packs of Founders/3 Floyds/Left Hand are at the $10-11 price point.  That's before the Cook County liquor tax nails you.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on October 18, 2011, 05:02:02 PM
$10 for a 6 pack of nitro stout is probably about $2-3 bucks cheaper than what it will sell for here in Chicago.  Most 6 packs of Founders/3 Floyds/Left Hand are at the $10-11 price point.  That's before the Cook County liquor tax nails you.



that would be a great deal here in madison.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on October 20, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
anyone know anything about this joint?

http://www.bigbaybrewing.com/ (http://www.bigbaybrewing.com/)

There's a groupon for $20 that gets you a beer tasting for two, two pint glasses, and a sixer.  Worth it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: copious1218 on October 20, 2011, 12:28:33 PM
anyone know anything about this joint?

http://www.bigbaybrewing.com/ (http://www.bigbaybrewing.com/)

There's a groupon for $20 that gets you a beer tasting for two, two pint glasses, and a sixer.  Worth it?

Never been to the brewery but have had both the Boatilla and Wavehopper - good, but nothing special.  I'd be interested to check out the brewery though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on October 20, 2011, 12:50:56 PM
I read that they do all of their brewing at Milwaukee Brew Co.

I'm all for entrepreneurial purveyors of suds, but I think I'm going to start avoiding these "virtual" breweries... if you can't so much as operate an extract system in-house, calling yourself a brewery just seems dishonest.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on October 20, 2011, 01:05:24 PM
I read that they do all of their brewing at Milwaukee Brew Co.

I'm all for entrepreneurial purveyors of suds, but I think I'm going to start avoiding these "virtual" breweries... if you can't so much as operate an extract system in-house, calling yourself a brewery just seems dishonest.

So no contract brewing like Sam Adams? (Miller brews the majority of Sam Adams beer) Futhermore contracts almost everything at Central Waters. Hell, PBR and Old Style are brewed by Miller.

Contract brewing is part of the industry that keeps it profitable. If every brewery just brewed their own their own beer their would be a lot of wasted brewing time. Trust me, contract brewing is needed - it's how small breweries get their start. They are just using brewing capacity that would go unused.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on October 20, 2011, 01:18:27 PM
Local brewery Lift Bridge contracted out "down time" at the Fulton Brewery until they could earn/raise enough money to build their own brewery which they have now.  Boycotting their great beer could have nixed their plans to open their own brewery. 

http://www.liftbridgebrewery.com/home.aspx
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on October 20, 2011, 03:14:38 PM
So no contract brewing like Sam Adams? (Miller brews the majority of Sam Adams beer) Futhermore contracts almost everything at Central Waters. Hell, PBR and Old Style are brewed by Miller.

Contract brewing is part of the industry that keeps it profitable. If every brewery just brewed their own their own beer their would be a lot of wasted brewing time. Trust me, contract brewing is needed - it's how small breweries get their start. They are just using brewing capacity that would go unused.

I'm talking contract brewing at the "Brew-Pub" level, not the commercial or craft level.  If you want to call yourself a brewery, at least buy a 5 gallon starter bucket and make a batch once in a while.  I'll give credit to Lift Bridge because I suspect they were the ones controlling the process and at least had the intent of building their own brewery.  I don't get that impression with Big Bay, but I could be wrong.

Call me Darwinistic when it comes to beer... one of the things that bothers me is that if you're simply giving a recipe to someone else and picking up your kegs a few weeks later, there's no evolution, no experimentation, and no furthering of the art or science.  You're serving the same stuff over and over again, and unless you got it perfect the first time, it's never going to improve.  I suppose I just have slightly higher expectations when I go to a place that advertises itself as a brew-pub or brewery... I don't want the same old beer, I want something new, different and at some stage of refining.  I like to talk to the brewmaster when I can and offer my feedback if asked.  I'm just doing my part to make society happier (if beer makes us happy, better beer makes us happier).

Sorry... this just touched a stray nerve today.  It's been a craptacular day at the office and all I want to do is go home to rack & dry-hop my IPA tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on October 20, 2011, 05:12:29 PM
I see your point clearly now and I wholeheartedly agree with you.  Your assumption about Lift Bridge is also 100% accurate.

I'm talking contract brewing at the "Brew-Pub" level, not the commercial or craft level.  If you want to call yourself a brewery, at least buy a 5 gallon starter bucket and make a batch once in a while.  I'll give credit to Lift Bridge because I suspect they were the ones controlling the process and at least had the intent of building their own brewery.  I don't get that impression with Big Bay, but I could be wrong.

Call me Darwinistic when it comes to beer... one of the things that bothers me is that if you're simply giving a recipe to someone else and picking up your kegs a few weeks later, there's no evolution, no experimentation, and no furthering of the art or science.  You're serving the same stuff over and over again, and unless you got it perfect the first time, it's never going to improve.  I suppose I just have slightly higher expectations when I go to a place that advertises itself as a brew-pub or brewery... I don't want the same old beer, I want something new, different and at some stage of refining.  I like to talk to the brewmaster when I can and offer my feedback if asked.  I'm just doing my part to make society happier (if beer makes us happy, better beer makes us happier).

Sorry... this just touched a stray nerve today.  It's been a craptacular day at the office and all I want to do is go home to rack & dry-hop my IPA tonight.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on October 26, 2011, 11:57:04 AM
http://www.mainstreet.com/article/lifestyle/food-drink/10-best-beer-states-2011?page=5 (http://www.mainstreet.com/article/lifestyle/food-drink/10-best-beer-states-2011?page=5)

Open for business.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on October 26, 2011, 01:12:24 PM
http://www.mainstreet.com/article/lifestyle/food-drink/10-best-beer-states-2011?page=5 (http://www.mainstreet.com/article/lifestyle/food-drink/10-best-beer-states-2011?page=5)

Open for business.

That list is bogus for one reason, doesn't include Michigan which has a much better craft brewers than almost any state, including Wisconsin. Hell, Michigan has 3 breweries which are far superior to any Wisconsin brewery in Founders, Short's and Bells.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on October 26, 2011, 03:58:04 PM
That list is bogus for one reason, doesn't include Michigan which has a much better craft brewers than almost any state, including Wisconsin. Hell, Michigan has 3 breweries which are far superior to any Wisconsin brewery in Founders, Short's and Bells.

from that article:
Quote
We took a close look at stats provided by the Brewers Association and Beer Institute and, based on four key criteria -- production, consumption, breweries and breweries per capita -- came up with the 10 top beer states in America.

apparently MI still falls short under that criteria, now where did I put that KBS and Nemesis in the cellar?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on October 26, 2011, 03:59:25 PM
That list is bogus for one reason, doesn't include Michigan which has a much better craft brewers than almost any state, including Wisconsin. Hell, Michigan has 3 breweries which are far superior to any Wisconsin brewery in Founders, Short's and Bells.

I would counter that the fine northern Wisconsin establishment, Thirsty Pagan, is more "superior" than anything Michigan has to offer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on October 26, 2011, 04:40:44 PM
I would counter that the fine northern Wisconsin establishment, Thirsty Pagan, is more "superior" than anything Michigan has to offer.

I will have to try and find some time to get one of their beers. Always looking for a good WI Craft Brewer that isn't built on hype *cough - New Glarus - cough*.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on October 27, 2011, 06:08:48 PM
I will have to try and find some time to get one of their beers. Always looking for a good WI Craft Brewer that isn't built on hype *cough - New Glarus - cough*.



Have you ever been to the New Glarus brewery? Beyond spectacular. And how is New Glarus build on hype? Between bells, founders (my favorite brewery), and new glarus, NG is by far the least hyped. Did you pay any attention to the CBS release?

I won't say their stuff is perfect, but everything they make is at least solid, and sometimes incredible. Dancing Man, Gueuze, IIPA, Golden Ale, Moon Man, Iced Barleywine, Enigma, Yokel, Alt, Abt, and Olde Enlgish Porter are all top notch, and I'm sure I'm missing some of my favorites.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on October 27, 2011, 06:16:51 PM
Have you ever been to the New Glarus brewery? Beyond spectacular. And how is New Glarus build on hype? Between bells, founders (my favorite brewery), and new glarus, NG is by far the least hyped. Did you pay any attention to the CBS release?

I won't say their stuff is perfect, but everything they make is at least solid, and sometimes incredible. Dancing Man, Gueuze, IIPA, Golden Ale, Moon Man, Iced Barleywine, Enigma, Yokel, Alt, Abt, and Olde Enlgish Porter are all top notch, and I'm sure I'm missing some of my favorites.

Moon Man is weak....and doesn't compare to any strong IPA. And I know they were going for a No Coast but still, come on.

The DIPA is WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY too sweet. The two I tried last year, one bottle and one on draft at Roman's, I didn't even finish. They were disgusting.

I do like Alt and I like Dancing Man - quality beers.

Their best beer, and in fact is my favorite Oktoberfest, is Staghorn. That beer is perfect for it's style.

By being built on hype I speak of the Spotted Cow (vomit), Chubby Squirrel, etc.

And yes, I am very aware of the CBS hype. But what do you expect from a beer that is only going bottled once every 3 years? But that is just one of their beers. The KBS, regular BS, Devil Dancer, IPA, Backwoods Bastard...oh man - just awesome.....

And yes, many beers don't live to the hype. I mean is FFF DL worth the time, not really. But the trip to DLD every April is a blast and half the fun. Is driving up to MN in October for Darkness worth it - probably not, but the beer is damn good and then you pick some Surley up just to have. Hell, I contemplate driving to StL just to get some Schlafly every once in a while, so there is always hype. It's just the NG is built on Spotted Bovine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on October 27, 2011, 06:25:40 PM
Moon Man is weak....and doesn't compare to any strong IPA. And I know they were going for a No Coast but still, come on.

The DIPA is WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY too sweet. The two I tried last year, one bottle and one on draft at Roman's, I didn't even finish. They were disgusting.

I do like Alt and I like Dancing Man - quality beers.

Their best beer, and in fact is my favorite Oktoberfest, is Staghorn. That beer is perfect for it's style.

By being built on hype I speak of the Spotted Cow (vomit), Chubby Squirrel, etc.

And yes, I am very aware of the CBS hype. But what do you expect from a beer that is only going bottled once every 3 years? But that is just one of their beers. The KBS, regular BS, Devil Dancer, IPA, Backwoods Bastard...oh man - just awesome.....

And yes, many beers don't live to the hype. I mean is FFF DL worth the time, not really. But the trip to DLD every April is a blast and half the fun. Is driving up to MN in October for Darkness worth it - probably not, but the beer is damn good and then you pick some Surley up just to have. Hell, I contemplate driving to StL just to get some Schlafly every once in a while, so there is always hype. It's just the NG is built on Spotted Bovine.

Spotted Cow is the beer the pays the bills, nothing more. It is the beer for the light beer drinker, simple as that.

Moon Man isn't an IPA, its a pale ale. Compare it to sierra nevada pale ale, not an IPA. As a pale ale it is spot on, and a delicious beer.

I also love staghorn. In fact I just returned an empty keg of it last week.

Something is to be said for a brewery that honors its home state and stays local. They could easily distribute to the entire midwest, but then we would see the same shortages as we see with every founders release in the last 3+ years.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on October 27, 2011, 07:05:51 PM
Is driving up to MN in October for Darkness worth it - probably not, but the beer is damn good and then you pick some Surley up just to have. 

Drinking a Surly Darkness right now and I am in heaven.....will be getting it at my bar on Oct 29th and my customers cannot wait.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jay Bee on October 27, 2011, 08:49:41 PM
Drinking a Surly Darkness right now and I am in heaven.....will be getting it at my bar on Oct 29th and my customers cannot wait.

Your bar? What the dilly... you talkin Alary's or elsewhere?  If I drank, I'd love to try a Surly Darkness.  You don't know of any bars in the Twin Cities that cater to Michigan or Michigan State fans do you? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on October 28, 2011, 10:04:13 AM
Your bar? What the dilly... you talkin Alary's or elsewhere?  If I drank, I'd love to try a Surly Darkness.  You don't know of any bars in the Twin Cities that cater to Michigan or Michigan State fans do you?  

WTF? It's gotta be one or the other you can't root for both. That's like being a Cubs fan and a White Sox fan, oh wait, we have one of those here in the office.  ::)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on October 28, 2011, 10:59:37 AM
I will have to try and find some time to get one of their beers. Always looking for a good WI Craft Brewer that isn't built on hype *cough - New Glarus - cough*.

A successful craft brewery is always built on hype.  You can have the best beer in the world, but without any hype, you'd be lucky to sell 10 bbls a year.   If it weren't for hype, most of us would have never heard of Shorts, New Glarus, Surley, etc.

You can push a bad beer with hype, but the results will be temporary (see: Red Dog c. 1995).  For a craft brewery to having staying power, it needs to be a quality beer as much as it needs to be hyped.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on October 28, 2011, 11:06:35 AM
A successful craft brewery is always built on hype.  You can have the best beer in the world, but without any hype, you'd be lucky to sell 10 bbls a year.   If it weren't for hype, most of us would have never heard of Shorts, New Glarus, Surley, etc.

You can push a bad beer with hype, but the results will be temporary (see: Red Dog c. 1995).  For a craft brewery to having staying power, it needs to be a quality beer as much as it needs to be hyped.

Really? Marketing works? You're kidding...

there are some breweries built on hype alone...that is the point....hell, look at horny goat in mke, quite possibly the worst beer ever produced but they market the crap out of it and make money hand over fist at their brew pub.

i personally put NG in here. i think their beers for the most part are average at best but people in wisconsin put them on this pedestal that they belong in the pantheon of great american craft breweries - where they do not belong.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on October 28, 2011, 11:37:24 AM
Really? Marketing works? You're kidding...

there are some breweries built on hype alone...that is the point....hell, look at horny goat in mke, quite possibly the worst beer ever produced but they market the crap out of it and make money hand over fist at their brew pub.

i personally put NG in here. i think their beers for the most part are average at best but people in wisconsin put them on this pedestal that they belong in the pantheon of great american craft breweries - where they do not belong.

Mostly agree, but with the caveat that a few NG beers are pretty good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on October 28, 2011, 11:55:56 AM
A successful craft brewery is always built on hype.  You can have the best beer in the world, but without any hype, you'd be lucky to sell 10 bbls a year.   If it weren't for hype, most of us would have never heard of Shorts, New Glarus, Surley, etc.

How do you define "success"? Same with "hype." To me those are blanket statements because given technology today it is easier than ever to make your presence known. A micro brewery might be so "successful" that they are unable to meet demand or that they would be unable to consistently distribute their product because they only have a limited supply. Does that mean a micro brewery in IL, WI, or MN are unsuccessful because they are not present on the east or west coast? No.

Personally I am most concerned with the quality of the product first.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on October 28, 2011, 12:02:01 PM
A micro brewery might be so "successful" that they are unable to meet demand or that they would be unable to consistently distribute their product because they only have a limited supply.

that sounds like it fits brewers like Dogfish Head and several of the Founders beers...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on October 28, 2011, 12:11:58 PM
that sounds like it fits brewers like Dogfish Head and several of the Founders beers...

I think it fits a lot of micro breweries. Unfortunately the name of the game is limited distribution. In regard to Founders, I love their porter and could go for one right now.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on October 28, 2011, 01:37:02 PM
Really? Marketing works? You're kidding...

there are some breweries built on hype alone...that is the point....hell, look at horny goat in mke, quite possibly the worst beer ever produced but they market the crap out of it and make money hand over fist at their brew pub.

i personally put NG in here. i think their beers for the most part are average at best but people in wisconsin put them on this pedestal that they belong in the pantheon of great american craft breweries - where they do not belong.

I'd think it has more to do with home-town pride and regional preferences than it does a belief that NG belongs in the Pantheon.  I'm sure people in the NW would say the same thing about how people from Michigan put Bells and Shorts on a pedestal.  Heck... have you ever tried some of the "beer" made in former Soviet states?  Most of it tastes like manure run-off, but tell that to a Ukrainian, and he'll sick his 7'2" aunt from Chernobyl on you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on October 28, 2011, 03:40:13 PM
that sounds like it fits brewers like Dogfish Head and several of the Founders beers...

Dogfish overshot its distribution to the point where the liquor store down the road from their Milton brewery couldn't even get some product.

They just strong-armed Milton into re-zoning the land around the brewery so look for them to expand what they have and try to jump up a spot in terms of craft distribution.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on October 28, 2011, 03:55:30 PM
Your bar? What the dilly... you talkin Alary's or elsewhere?  If I drank, I'd love to try a Surly Darkness.  You don't know of any bars in the Twin Cities that cater to Michigan or Michigan State fans do you? 

Yes Alary's.....long story.....Have the NCAA ticket or whatever they call it and get a lot of guys from the different small St. Paul colleges coming in to watch them.  Darkness this year is as good as it gets and is officially released tomorrow.  Will not be at the bar tomorrow...going to see the Hutchinson/Marshall football game.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on October 28, 2011, 04:59:06 PM
I'd think it has more to do with home-town pride and regional preferences than it does a belief that NG belongs in the Pantheon.  I'm sure people in the NW would say the same thing about how people from Michigan put Bells and Shorts on a pedestal.  Heck... have you ever tried some of the "beer" made in former Soviet states?  Most of it tastes like manure run-off, but tell that to a Ukrainian, and he'll sick his 7'2" aunt from Chernobyl on you.

the thing i have NG being local is that I can drive from Bay View to Three Floyds quicker than I can to NG, so what is local? I try and stick to great lakes and midwest beers, but until a WI brewer can make a beer with the hop profile of a Racer 5, Gumball Head, etc - I am not going to be impressed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on October 28, 2011, 10:21:51 PM
Really? Marketing works? You're kidding...

there are some breweries built on hype alone...that is the point....hell, look at horny goat in mke, quite possibly the worst beer ever produced but they market the crap out of it and make money hand over fist at their brew pub.

i personally put NG in here. i think their beers for the most part are average at best but people in wisconsin put them on this pedestal that they belong in the pantheon of great american craft breweries - where they do not belong.

the thing i have NG being local is that I can drive from Bay View to Three Floyds quicker than I can to NG, so what is local? I try and stick to great lakes and midwest beers, but until a WI brewer can make a beer with the hop profile of a Racer 5, Gumball Head, etc - I am not going to be impressed.

Marketing? Are you kidding? Do you realize that New Glarus spends exactly zero dollars on marketing and advertising. Name the last time you have ever seen a New Glarus advertisement anywhere...

It sounds like you don't like New Glarus because they DON'T make super hopped up, overly hyped beers. The brewmaster, Dan Carey, spent years in Germany in an apprenticeship. He learned brewing by making lagers and dark ales. He makes what he likes to drink, he doesn't give in to the hop and imperial stout craze to make a quick buck. This is why you don't think they are on the pedestal with other craft breweries. For the style, New Glarus makes everything just about perfectly.

What to try a world class wheat beer? Dancing Man Wheat is as good as anything you will find in Germany. Want to drink a quality lager? Two Women and Laughing Fox are spot on. Looking for a pale ale? Moon Man is the best pale I've ever had, better than Gumballhead in my opinion (which is actually a hoppy wheat ale). Are fruit beers your thing? New Glarus does fruit better than anyone in America, hands down. You enjoy sours? Their Bourbon Barrel Kriek, Gueuze, Enigma, and Old English Porter are as excellent and authentic as anything found in Europe. Want an oktoberfest? The Staghorn is the best example available in Wisconsin. And I'm not even mentioning their world class Alt, IIPA, Eisbock (who the hell else makes an eisbock?), berliner weisse, black ipa, barleywine, abt, yokel, uff-da, back 40 bock, or stone soup, all great beers.

I spoke with a New Glarus brewer recently, and he let me in on a few secrets. You heard it here first. (1) They are currently working on a barleywine that they are very excited about. (2) Expect another Gueuze in the summer of 2012, this time as authentic as anything in Belgium. 100%  spontaneous fermented, and a blend of 1 and 3 year old lambic. (3) They are currently in the planning phase of an expansion to their old brewery to include a barrel room used exclusively for a lambic program.

You may not like the styles that New Glarus chooses to focus on, but you cannot deny that they brew their styles excellently.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on October 28, 2011, 11:17:37 PM
Some of the "hype" feelings about NG comes from stuff like reading about Spotted Cow in Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback column as a brew he must try from Wisconsin.  Put me squarely in the "I cannot drink Spotted Cow" camp.  Not a big fan of the fruit beers that NG makes either. 

I do appreciate Uff-da, and plan on trying the Staghorn tomorrow, based on JimmyB's article.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on October 30, 2011, 01:54:53 PM
Some of the "hype" feelings about NG comes from stuff like reading about Spotted Cow in Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback column as a brew he must try from Wisconsin.  Put me squarely in the "I cannot drink Spotted Cow" camp.  Not a big fan of the fruit beers that NG makes either. 

I do appreciate Uff-da, and plan on trying the Staghorn tomorrow, based on JimmyB's article.

It's funny to see the gulf in perception of New Glarus from inside/outside the state.

There are people at beer palaces here in the east that consider NG to be a different level. Perhaps the marketing has gotten to them because the product certainly hasn't.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 16, 2011, 05:02:18 PM
Burnhearts announced today that they tapped a barrel of 2010 Goose Island Bourbon County Stout...I will be stopping in tonight for a glass...should be nicely aged now at about a year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on November 16, 2011, 11:09:45 PM
Have a bunch that I tried, been awhile since I've posted.

The good-

Great Lakes Octoberfest- Very solid, but no Staghorn.
New Holland Mad Hatter- Excellent. Not sure why it took me so long to try it.
Lake Louie Tommy's Porter- Nice, smooth porter. Could add a little more roastiness, but delicious.
Southern Tier Porter and 2XIPA- Enjoyed both of these a lot. Especially the 2XIPA.
Dark Horse Boffo Brown and Sapient Tripale- Dark Horse has yet to let me down. Can't wait to try the coffee dopplebock.
Capital Eternal Flame- Complex, but easy drinking for so much alcohol. Fascinating back story as well.
New Glarus Chocolate Abbey- This beer surprised me. Let it warm up a little and it's a great after dinner brew.
New Glarus Blacktop- Admittedly new to black IPAs, but this was really good.

The okay-

Southern Tier Phin & Matt's- Not bad, would take a Moon Man over it though.
Alaskan Amber- Pretty standard Amber, nothing spectacular about it.
Milwaukee Brewing Hoptoberfest- Could have used more hop in hoptober.
Left Hand 400 lb Monkey- Maybe the English Style IPA isn't my thing, but this didn't wow me at all.
Upland Rad Red- Decent, but nothing I'd have repeatedly.
New Glarus Laughing Fox- Again, might just be the style, but it didn't do much for me.
Central Waters Brewhouse Coffee Stout- Not bad, but there are better options with this style.

The not so good-

Upland Wheat- Too sweet. Too carbonated. Not a fan.
Lake Louie Coon Rock Cream Ale- Had kind of a funky taste to it.
Central Waters Belgian Blonde and Great Lakes Holy Moses- Like a belgian style, but way too heavy on the spices.

And the horrible- Lost Coast Tangerine Wheat. Like drinking orange candy. Gross.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 17, 2011, 07:10:43 AM
I'm thinking you got an old 6er of LL CRCA.

I like all of their beers except the "Arena Premium"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 18, 2011, 09:00:32 PM
http://graydonscrossing.com/menus/drink.pdf

If anyone is ever in Grand Rapids, I've got the first round at this place.    The most unbelievable beer selection I have found.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 18, 2011, 09:04:50 PM
Currently enjoying a FFF Munsterfest bomber
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on November 18, 2011, 09:46:03 PM
Currently enjoying a FFF Munsterfest bomber

Great choice with the Munsterfest.  Have you had the Arctic Panzer Wolf yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 18, 2011, 10:16:45 PM
Great choice with the Munsterfest.  Have you had the Arctic Panzer Wolf yet?

Yes, but funny you mention that, there is one sitting in my fridge right now. :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 18, 2011, 10:17:34 PM
Currently enjoying a FFF Munsterfest bomber

Really? I was thoroughly disappointed with this offering by FFF. I expect more from them and thought this just came out flat. Now I am just trying to hold off from opening a Baller Stout.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 19, 2011, 08:12:00 AM
Really? I was thoroughly disappointed with this offering by FFF. I expect more from them and thought this just came out flat. Now I am just trying to hold off from opening a Baller Stout.

Their idea was to make it as true to the Oktoberfest tradition as they could.  It wasn't perfect, but it was a nice smooth, highly drinkable beer.

IMHO no one does Oktoberfest like the Germans themselves, and even then Augustiner is easily my favorite... and having a L or 3 in the 'tent' at Oktoberfest can't be matched.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: The Process on November 22, 2011, 09:25:24 PM
one of my favorite parts of the week is to wander the beer aisles at Woodmans and decide what beer to try next. You can find virtually any beer there and cheaper than just about anywhere else. I usually find a beer that sounds interesting, plug it into beeradvocate.com and read reviews. If its scored decently (B+ or above) I usually get it.

now woodmans has a section where beers that score at or above a 95 are prominently displayed.  While this takes some of the fun out of it, I now don't have to hear about it when I've spent 45 minutes trying to decide on what beer to try next.

tonight I have two delights:

1. Capitol Brewerys Autumnal Fire. A very very good dopplebock. An outstanding representation of the type.
2. La Fin du Monde. Its like when Bruce Willis was dead at the end of Sixth Sense. Just amazing. Wow.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 23, 2011, 04:52:53 PM
Thanksgiving Beer, what do you all have? I picked up the following from Groppi's (which by the way has one of the smartest beer buyers I have met)..

Three Floyds Gumball Head
Three Floyds Pride & Joy
Founders Breakfast Stout
Goose Island Sofie
Goose Island Fluer

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 23, 2011, 05:58:07 PM
Thanksgiving Beer, what do you all have? I picked up the following from Groppi's (which by the way has one of the smartest beer buyers I have met)..

Three Floyds Gumball Head
Three Floyds Pride & Joy
Founders Breakfast Stout
Goose Island Sofie
Goose Island Fluer



Haven't picked mine up yet, but those are pretty solid choices.

And Groppi's is awesome for meat AND beer.

And I just cracked my Arctic Panzer Wolf
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: The Process on November 23, 2011, 11:29:12 PM
I live literally just down the street from there.  While I agree about their selection, for most  beers they are 2-4 dollars above woodmans. I will, however, buy from their clearance section, which is more in line with woodmans or even berts, as good beer is available.

so I'm cheap. Such is life.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 24, 2011, 08:28:00 AM
I live literally just down the street from there.  While I agree about their selection, for most  beers they are 2-4 dollars above woodmans. I will, however, buy from their clearance section, which is more in line with woodmans or even berts, as good beer is available.

so I'm cheap. Such is life.

Woodmans is just out of the way and Groppi's, well, is a 10 minutes bike ride or 1 minute drive. I do think Woodman's has a great selection, but Groppi's is on par with Ray's in terms of price. Plus, they have good beers on tap too while you shop for meat and beer. Good times.

I never knew we had so many Bay View residents that were Marquette fans. I know in the past I have gotten Mike Roman to put the games on with sound at Roman's if people ever wanted to watch.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 24, 2011, 08:57:49 AM
Woodmans is just out of the way and Groppi's, well, is a 10 minutes bike ride or 1 minute drive. I do think Woodman's has a great selection, but Groppi's is on par with Ray's in terms of price. Plus, they have good beers on tap too while you shop for meat and beer. Good times.

I never knew we had so many Bay View residents that were Marquette fans. I know in the past I have gotten Mike Roman to put the games on with sound at Roman's if people ever wanted to watch.

My mom grew up down the street from Groppi's back in the 50-60's on Delaware street.  As a child, I remember her stopping in and getting some salsiccia sausages... which I LOVED... and then they shut down for a while when the old man died... but obviously they are back open now. :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on November 24, 2011, 09:21:11 AM
Thanksgiving Beer, what do you all have? I picked up the following from Groppi's (which by the way has one of the smartest beer buyers I have met)..

Three Floyds Gumball Head
Three Floyds Pride & Joy
Founders Breakfast Stout
Goose Island Sofie
Goose Island Fluer




I have yet to find a store with a selection this solid in FL.  No FOunders, No Three Floyds.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: The Process on November 24, 2011, 09:48:31 AM
Woodmans is just out of the way and Groppi's, well, is a 10 minutes bike ride or 1 minute drive. I do think Woodman's has a great selection, but Groppi's is on par with Ray's in terms of price. Plus, they have good beers on tap too while you shop for meat and beer. Good times.

I never knew we had so many Bay View residents that were Marquette fans. I know in the past I have gotten Mike Roman to put the games on with sound at Roman's if people ever wanted to watch.

we should all go drink at a bar and watch games. Brilliant!

woodmans for me is on  the way home from work so it definitely worthwhile.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: parkerj on November 24, 2011, 08:47:46 PM
one of my favorite parts of the week is to wander the beer aisles at Woodmans and decide what beer to try next. You can find virtually any beer there and cheaper than just about anywhere else. I usually find a beer that sounds interesting, plug it into beeradvocate.com and read reviews. If its scored decently (B+ or above) I usually get it.

now woodmans has a section where beers that score at or above a 95 are prominently displayed.  While this takes some of the fun out of it, I now don't have to hear about it when I've spent 45 minutes trying to decide on what beer to try next.

tonight I have two delights:

1. Capitol Brewerys Autumnal Fire. A very very good dopplebock. An outstanding representation of the type.
2. La Fin du Monde. Its like when Bruce Willis was dead at the end of Sixth Sense. Just amazing. Wow.

LOVE woodman's...a couple weeks ago i went to the singles section and plucked up a racer 5 and a hop rod rye from bear republic...i'm not a huge hophead, but the hop rod has been one of my go-to beers lately
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: AlienWarrior on November 27, 2011, 05:27:42 PM
Here in NYC at the Blind Tiger, my favorite brewery is featured on Wed, list of beers at the end

Dieu du Ciel

Wednesday, November 30 at 3PM


A year ago, when Dieu du Ciel agreed to do an event at the Tiger I was very excited. I had already been to their Montreal brewpub a couple of times, and was very impressed by their wide range of beers, the interesting ingredients they like to use - this year it’s peppers, yuzu, mangos, and smoked malt - and the incredible quality. They manage to combine French Canadian style with American brashness, creating a voice that’s uniquely their own.                                                                                                           

 I got so excited in fact, that I ran up a step ladder in my barn in Vermont, knocked it over, jumped for the loft above me like some sort of trapeze artist, allowed my momentum to carry my legs up in the air so I was parallel with the ground, and then, just as I was wondering if I was actually a gymnast, felt gravity take over as it ripped my hands loose, causing me to fall nine feet, crashing flat on my back on the hardwood floor, completely forgetting to break my landing with my arms as I had learned in sixth grade judo.                                             

 

The worst part of this experience wasn’t the four broken ribs and three cracked vertebrae, or the fact that I had a cold at the time causing me to cough/scream every thirty seconds. No, the worst part was having to tell Stephane Ostiguey, Dieu du Ciel’s co-founder, that I would be missing their first event at the Tiger, and the 30 plus beers they had brought across the border. A bottle of Oxycontin only softened the blow slightly.

 

This year I’ve managed to contain my excitement, even when Stephane sent us the list and I saw the keg of Peche Mortel aged in bourbon barrels. I didn’t jump up in the air like I wanted to. I simply looked skyward and said ah, “Dieu du Ciel,” which roughly translates to “God in heaven!” I’m playing it safe until Weds, November 30th at 3pm, so I can finally enjoy the 16 special beers made by a brewery that stopped playing it safe the day they opened their doors.

 

For those of you who like to plan ahead, you might want to consider making a reservation for our Vintage New Year’s Eve Party. We’ll be putting together a special list of aged beers, including some year old holiday ales, as well as some special kegs from some of our favorite breweries. Chef Tommy will be putting on an incredible buffet, and there will be the usual hats and party favors to ring in 2012. Call the Blind Tiger for details at 212-462-4682 or email us at blindtigeralehouse@gmail.com.

 

Also, Sunday, December 4th at 3PM Tom Baker will be making a special appearance as part of our fundraiser for Randy Marcott.  More information on this soon!

 

Dave Brodrick

 

The Dieu du Ciel List:

 

 

Revenante - Smoked Porter

Aphrodite Mechant - Cocoa and Vanilla Stout with Smoked Hot Peppers

Solstice aux Mangues - Sour Wheat Beer with Mangos

Mea Culpa - India Cream Ale

Libre Echange - Foreign Export Stout

Vaisseau des Songes - British IPA

Equinoxe d’Automne - Rauch Bock

Voyageur des Brumes - E.S.B

Penombre - Black IPA

13e Etage - Porter/Black IPA with Yuzu and mild hot peppers

Rigor Mortis de Table - Abbey-style Light Blond Ale

Peche Mortel - Imperial Coffee Stout

Derniere Volonte - Dry Hopped Belgian Blond Ale

Peche Mortel Bourbon - Imperial Coffee Stout Aged in Bourbon Barrels

Cask 1 Libre Echange - Foreign Export Stout

Cask 2 Solstice d’Hiver - Barleywine
 
 
 
 
 


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 27, 2011, 05:52:57 PM

I have yet to find a store with a selection this solid in FL.  No FOunders, No Three Floyds.

neither are distributed down there. I think Three Floyds is just Indiana, Illinois and Wisconsin (Madison and Milwaukee only).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on November 29, 2011, 08:29:41 AM
Just had this monstrosity:  http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/13307/56842

Mikkeler 1000 IBU.  Just as hoppy as you'd expect, and then some.  Can't drink anything else after, your taste buds are shot.  Not sure I'd ever drink it again, but it was definitely an experience. 

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on November 29, 2011, 10:34:16 AM
Here in NYC at the Blind Tiger, my favorite brewery is featured on Wed, list of beers at the end

Dieu du Ciel

Wednesday, November 30 at 3PM


A year ago, when Dieu du Ciel agreed to do an event at the Tiger I was very excited. I had already been to their Montreal brewpub a couple of times, and was very impressed by their wide range of beers, the interesting ingredients they like to use - this year it’s peppers, yuzu, mangos, and smoked malt - and the incredible quality. They manage to combine French Canadian style with American brashness, creating a voice that’s uniquely their own.                                                                                                           

 I got so excited in fact, that I ran up a step ladder in my barn in Vermont, knocked it over, jumped for the loft above me like some sort of trapeze artist, allowed my momentum to carry my legs up in the air so I was parallel with the ground, and then, just as I was wondering if I was actually a gymnast, felt gravity take over as it ripped my hands loose, causing me to fall nine feet, crashing flat on my back on the hardwood floor, completely forgetting to break my landing with my arms as I had learned in sixth grade judo.                                             

 

The worst part of this experience wasn’t the four broken ribs and three cracked vertebrae, or the fact that I had a cold at the time causing me to cough/scream every thirty seconds. No, the worst part was having to tell Stephane Ostiguey, Dieu du Ciel’s co-founder, that I would be missing their first event at the Tiger, and the 30 plus beers they had brought across the border. A bottle of Oxycontin only softened the blow slightly.

 

This year I’ve managed to contain my excitement, even when Stephane sent us the list and I saw the keg of Peche Mortel aged in bourbon barrels. I didn’t jump up in the air like I wanted to. I simply looked skyward and said ah, “Dieu du Ciel,” which roughly translates to “God in heaven!” I’m playing it safe until Weds, November 30th at 3pm, so I can finally enjoy the 16 special beers made by a brewery that stopped playing it safe the day they opened their doors.

 

For those of you who like to plan ahead, you might want to consider making a reservation for our Vintage New Year’s Eve Party. We’ll be putting together a special list of aged beers, including some year old holiday ales, as well as some special kegs from some of our favorite breweries. Chef Tommy will be putting on an incredible buffet, and there will be the usual hats and party favors to ring in 2012. Call the Blind Tiger for details at 212-462-4682 or email us at blindtigeralehouse@gmail.com.

 

Also, Sunday, December 4th at 3PM Tom Baker will be making a special appearance as part of our fundraiser for Randy Marcott.  More information on this soon!

 

Dave Brodrick

 

The Dieu du Ciel List:

 

 

Revenante - Smoked Porter

Aphrodite Mechant - Cocoa and Vanilla Stout with Smoked Hot Peppers

Solstice aux Mangues - Sour Wheat Beer with Mangos

Mea Culpa - India Cream Ale

Libre Echange - Foreign Export Stout

Vaisseau des Songes - British IPA

Equinoxe d’Automne - Rauch Bock

Voyageur des Brumes - E.S.B

Penombre - Black IPA

13e Etage - Porter/Black IPA with Yuzu and mild hot peppers

Rigor Mortis de Table - Abbey-style Light Blond Ale

Peche Mortel - Imperial Coffee Stout

Derniere Volonte - Dry Hopped Belgian Blond Ale

Peche Mortel Bourbon - Imperial Coffee Stout Aged in Bourbon Barrels

Cask 1 Libre Echange - Foreign Export Stout

Cask 2 Solstice d’Hiver - Barleywine
 

The Blind Tiger is friggin' choice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on November 29, 2011, 12:40:50 PM
Have any of you New York area folks been to this place?:

http://www.captainlawrencebrewing.com/

Besides the awesome name, my nephew tells me the brew is pretty good, and he insists we visit when I attend the BE tourney........
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUFC9295 on December 03, 2011, 07:39:42 PM
Case of Spotted Cow from Woodman's and a sampler to boot now cooling in the west loop.  After today's win, it's the good luck beer of the 2011-2012 season!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 03, 2011, 09:01:38 PM
Before the game at the Kohl Hole tonight tried this place called Brickhouse BBQ on University. Good joint. Really good food and great tap list. Tried a Lake Louie Reserve Scotch Ale - damn fine beer. Might have to try more form this brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on December 03, 2011, 09:04:10 PM
Before the game at the Kohl Hole tonight tried this place called Brickhouse BBQ on University. Good joint. Really good food and great tap list. Tried a Lake Louie Reserve Scotch Ale - damn fine beer. Might have to try more form this brewery.

Had the same at the Avenue Bar.  It is very good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on December 05, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
Spotted Cow is piss.  Mind you, if drinking that swill ensures MU goes without a loss this season, I'd drink it till I puked every game day!

Anyone have any good suggestions for holiday brews?  I don't care for beers with a lot of hop flavor, I prefer the spicy/chocolate/carmel of porters/reds/etc. 

Fruit beers/lambics aren't horrible either.  I love Fruili, although it's $6 for a 7oz bottle, and not available in draught here any more.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 06, 2011, 12:47:04 AM
Spotted Cow is piss.  Mind you, if drinking that swill ensures MU goes without a loss this season, I'd drink it till I puked every game day!

Anyone have any good suggestions for holiday brews?  I don't care for beers with a lot of hop flavor, I prefer the spicy/chocolate/carmel of porters/reds/etc. 

Fruit beers/lambics aren't horrible either.  I love Fruili, although it's $6 for a 7oz bottle, and not available in draught here any more.



Great Lakes Christmas Ale is my personal favorite.
Goose Island makes a good Christmas Ale.
I am waiting on a six pack Schlafly Christmas.

Also, it is rolling into big hearty stout season. As for good stouts out right now you can't get much better than Founders Breakfast Stout. Just a damn near perfect beer IMO.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 06, 2011, 09:36:12 AM
Get it while you can! Goose Island Bourbon County stout has been hitting the shelves in the last few days.

Discount Liquor says they got 2 cases and is selling by the bottle - limit 1 per person. Consumer Beverage also had 2 cases but my brother & I got the last 2 four packs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on December 06, 2011, 09:38:26 AM
Spotted Cow is piss.  Mind you, if drinking that swill ensures MU goes without a loss this season, I'd drink it till I puked every game day!

Anyone have any good suggestions for holiday brews?  I don't care for beers with a lot of hop flavor, I prefer the spicy/chocolate/carmel of porters/reds/etc. 

Fruit beers/lambics aren't horrible either.  I love Fruili, although it's $6 for a 7oz bottle, and not available in draught here any more.



See if you can find anything by De Struise of Belgium. Under the name Tsjeeses or Tsjeeses Reserva. Nice, spicy, hearty, Holiday brew.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ohbie on December 06, 2011, 01:35:19 PM
Get it while you can! Goose Island Bourbon County stout has been hitting the shelves in the last few days.

Discount Liquor says they got 2 cases and is selling by the bottle - limit 1 per person. Consumer Beverage also had 2 cases but my brother & I got the last 2 four packs.

Might have to get my brother to go pick some up.  I went to the Binny's in Downer's Grove today and they're all out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on December 06, 2011, 02:04:41 PM
 Goose Island Mild Winter Ale, my favorite winter beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 06, 2011, 02:31:20 PM
Anyone have any good suggestions for holiday brews?  I don't care for beers with a lot of hop flavor, I prefer the spicy/chocolate/carmel of porters/reds/etc. 

Fruit beers/lambics aren't horrible either.  I love Fruili, although it's $6 for a 7oz bottle, and not available in draught here any more.



You might try Delirium Noel
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on December 08, 2011, 09:27:28 PM
working on a 6-er of Atwater Brewery Vanilla Java Porter. I like it. A little lighter/thinner than I expected from a coffee porter, and its still got a real sweetness to it. Probably doesn't stand up to other really thick type porters, and I would compare it more to a Leine's Fireside Nut than a real smoky porter. I don't hate it, but don't expect to drink more than one or two.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on December 10, 2011, 08:21:42 AM
Tried New Glarus Snow Day yesterday... A W F U L.

Went back to Founder's Breakfast.  Yes indeed, that is some gooooo-oooood stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on December 10, 2011, 09:33:21 AM
Tried New Glarus Snow Day yesterday... A W F U L.

Went back to Founder's Breakfast.  Yes indeed, that is some gooooo-oooood stuff.

You mean New BELGIUM Snow Day???

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/74123
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on December 11, 2011, 03:48:28 PM
You mean New BELGIUM Snow Day???

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/74123

Thanks, regardless of brewer, it was awful.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on December 11, 2011, 11:15:41 PM
So this weekend, I'm drinking Two Hearted Ale and Left Hand Milk Stout. My wife, an MU grad also who could drink her share back in the day, asks me, where's the good light beer?  Other than the obvious (there is no good light beer) what is a good light beer that she can drink when I'm drinking good stuff?  oh, and she could drink whole if she wanted to...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on December 12, 2011, 09:08:42 AM
So this weekend, I'm drinking Two Hearted Ale and Left Hand Milk Stout. My wife, an MU grad also who could drink her share back in the day, asks me, where's the good light beer?  Other than the obvious (there is no good light beer) what is a good light beer that she can drink when I'm drinking good stuff?  oh, and she could drink whole if she wanted to...

Amstel Light is not terribly bad. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on December 12, 2011, 09:20:48 AM
Had "Double Wide IPA" by Boulevard Brewing this weekend.  750 mL corked bottle... part of their Smokestack (?) series. 

I never did like the Wheat beer, but it definitely seems like Boulevard has been stepping up their game the past few years.  This one is worth trying.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on December 12, 2011, 11:21:17 AM
Get it while you can! Goose Island Bourbon County stout has been hitting the shelves in the last few days.

Discount Liquor says they got 2 cases and is selling by the bottle - limit 1 per person. Consumer Beverage also had 2 cases but my brother & I got the last 2 four packs.

Thanks for the heads up.  Picked up one bottle at Discount last week. 

Been a good couple of weeks for beer on this end.  Made it to Roman's Pub (2007 Sierra Nevada Barleywine, Southern Tier Old Man, and a Founders Breakfast Stout , all on tap) We did a mix and match, tough to drink each of those on your own.  Also got a bottle of Delirium Nocturnum as a gift.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 12, 2011, 11:57:34 AM
Based on a bit in AlcoholManiacs that I picked up at the Sugar Maple I tried some New (to me) X-mas beers.

I liked the Gouden Carolous and Insanely Bad Elf, the Bad Elf not so much
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on December 12, 2011, 05:07:35 PM
I hope this pic works. Some beers I just received from a VERY generous MU grad out on the west coast.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 12, 2011, 05:33:47 PM
So this weekend, I'm drinking Two Hearted Ale and Left Hand Milk Stout. My wife, an MU grad also who could drink her share back in the day, asks me, where's the good light beer?  Other than the obvious (there is no good light beer) what is a good light beer that she can drink when I'm drinking good stuff?  oh, and she could drink whole if she wanted to...

Light on flavor or light on calories?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on December 12, 2011, 06:19:43 PM
I hope this pic works. Some beers I just received from a VERY generous MU grad out on the west coast.

Wow.

I'm wondering what you had to give up for that haul?  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 12, 2011, 06:35:12 PM
working on a 6-er of Atwater Brewery Vanilla Java Porter. I like it. A little lighter/thinner than I expected from a coffee porter, and its still got a real sweetness to it. Probably doesn't stand up to other really thick type porters, and I would compare it more to a Leine's Fireside Nut than a real smoky porter. I don't hate it, but don't expect to drink more than one or two.

Just picked up a holiday variety pack (6 types, two of each) from Atwater.   Agree the porter was perhaps a little lighter than, say, Breckenridge Porter, but it was still drinkable.    I also tried the double Bock and found it a little less intense than expected.    Still tasty, though.   Still 4 more to try.   The cherry stout intrigues me. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on December 13, 2011, 08:11:47 PM
Light on flavor or light on calories?
Light on calories.  I know Guinness is fairly light but my wife won't drink it.  What else is there that's good flavor, with not a lot of calories?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 14, 2011, 04:22:07 PM
Light on calories.  I know Guinness is fairly light but my wife won't drink it.  What else is there that's good flavor, with not a lot of calories?

Goose Island 312 is only 135 calories.

I took that from this article: http://thebeersessions.com/recommendations/a-lighter-option-five-great-tasting-low-calorie-beers/ (http://thebeersessions.com/recommendations/a-lighter-option-five-great-tasting-low-calorie-beers/)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on December 14, 2011, 06:46:32 PM
Goose Island 312 is only 135 calories.

I took that from this article: http://thebeersessions.com/recommendations/a-lighter-option-five-great-tasting-low-calorie-beers/ (http://thebeersessions.com/recommendations/a-lighter-option-five-great-tasting-low-calorie-beers/)
  Thanks for the article.  I like 312, just didn't know it was relatively low in calories.  I'll have to hunt down the Anchor Summer beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on December 14, 2011, 08:15:55 PM
  Thanks for the article.  I like 312, just didn't know it was relatively low in calories.  I'll have to hunt down the Anchor Summer beer.

I love Anchor, but I've had all those beers and personally would go with the Scrimshaw.  If your wife is looking for a 'traditional beer' in the sense of something familiar, it's the choice of the list and should be found at most well stocked liquor stores.  I can get a great selection of North Coast here in Chicago. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on December 15, 2011, 07:03:05 AM
Light on calories.  I know Guinness is fairly light but my wife won't drink it.  What else is there that's good flavor, with not a lot of calories?

Sam Adams Light clocks in around 124 calories
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on December 15, 2011, 09:31:43 AM
Sam Adams Light clocks in around 124 calories

(http://dontwannahearit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/532641646_22a686a6cd.jpg)
SO MANY F*CKIN' HAWPS!!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on December 22, 2011, 03:48:39 PM
Delerium Noel..... YUM!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on December 22, 2011, 04:25:21 PM
Delerium Noel..... YUM!

On this note, has anyone had De Struise Tsjeeses or Tsjeeses Reserva?

Both are excellent as is the Kerkom Winterkoniske.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on December 23, 2011, 07:01:38 AM
Went to great beer bar in NYC, Valhalla on 54th and 9th.  Awesome selection, settled in with a few Southern Tier Old Man Winter, and Smuttynose IPA on cask.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on December 27, 2011, 09:34:56 PM
Santa Claus is apparently a brewer in my family.  Nice German selection including Paulaner Salvatore Dopplebock and Spaten Optimator. Craft beers include 3 Floyds Dreadnaught and a Dark Lord, Central Waters 2011 Barleywine (been trying to get a four pack of their barleywines for a few years now, they age them for a year before bottling), and a couple bottles of Goose Island Bourbon Stout.

Happy beer fiend right here.



Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 28, 2011, 07:53:57 AM
Just bottled one of my dark ales yesterday... let the waiting game begin...

Hopefully the 5 gallon keg I got for xmas from the wife shows up soon. :(
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on December 28, 2011, 02:13:18 PM
I've thought of trying some home brewing.  How difficult is it?  $$$$?  Ingredients vs. Flavor?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 28, 2011, 02:24:16 PM
I've thought of trying some home brewing.  How difficult is it?  $$$$?  Ingredients vs. Flavor?


I think my start up kit cost about $100  (2 5 gallon pails, one with a spigot, caps, capper, tubing, bottling wand, one way valve, and siphon attachment).  If you get a beer kit they run about $50 give or take.  They will include malt, hops, priming sugar, and your grains... plus anything else you may need to create your brew (usually they provide additional bottle caps)

Personally, I am using 16oz EZCAP bottles... then I don't have to save bottles, and I don't have to cap all the beer.  For Xmas I have coming a 5 gallon keg.

Brewing is extremely easy.  If you are new I suggest starting with a dark beer and following the directions EXACTLY.  The beer should taste pretty good (mine have :brag:) and if something went wrong you will probably be able to figure out what the problem was.

If you really aren't sure you want to do 5 gallons, and want to 'test' out the idea, you can get a Mr. Beer kit (http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Beer-Deluxe-Microbrewery-System/dp/B00005O68L/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325103749&sr=8-2) for under $30.

I highly recommend it... lots of fun, plus you get better at it and you can pretend that someday you will open up a brewery of your own... oh, maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on December 28, 2011, 08:04:45 PM
I think my start up kit cost about $100  (2 5 gallon pails, one with a spigot, caps, capper, tubing, bottling wand, one way valve, and siphon attachment).  If you get a beer kit they run about $50 give or take.  They will include malt, hops, priming sugar, and your grains... plus anything else you may need to create your brew (usually they provide additional bottle caps)

Personally, I am using 16oz EZCAP bottles... then I don't have to save bottles, and I don't have to cap all the beer.  For Xmas I have coming a 5 gallon keg.

Brewing is extremely easy.  If you are new I suggest starting with a dark beer and following the directions EXACTLY.  The beer should taste pretty good (mine have :brag:) and if something went wrong you will probably be able to figure out what the problem was.

If you really aren't sure you want to do 5 gallons, and want to 'test' out the idea, you can get a Mr. Beer kit (http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Beer-Deluxe-Microbrewery-System/dp/B00005O68L/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325103749&sr=8-2) for under $30.

I highly recommend it... lots of fun, plus you get better at it and you can pretend that someday you will open up a brewery of your own... oh, maybe that's just me.

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on December 30, 2011, 12:22:19 PM
Just got a brewers starting kit for Xmas, going to do it tonight for the first time. Also we bought Three Philosophers, Smuttynose Old Brown Dog Ale, Three Floyds Black Sun Stout and Duvel Golden Ale while we brew.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: karavotsos on December 30, 2011, 09:19:54 PM
I've been drinking the Lagunitas Cappuccino stout lately.  I think its great.  I like Lagunitas beers generally.  However, I have heard them described as 'obvious' and 'over-the-top.'  I feel like I'm drinking Shocktop or Horny Goat.  Is Lagunitas that bad?  Where would people put it on a scale of beers they drink?  I just feel like I have horrible taste or I'm missing something.  If the former, that's fine.  The latter, I would prefer not. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on December 30, 2011, 11:17:52 PM
I've been drinking the Lagunitas Cappuccino stout lately.  I think its great.  I like Lagunitas beers generally.  However, I have heard them described as 'obvious' and 'over-the-top.'  I feel like I'm drinking Shocktop or Horny Goat.  Is Lagunitas that bad?  Where would people put it on a scale of beers they drink?  I just feel like I have horrible taste or I'm missing something.  If the former, that's fine.  The latter, I would prefer not. 

They make good stuff. I think they are a very solid brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on December 31, 2011, 11:55:23 AM
 Would have to say the ommegang three philosophers has a very pronounced alcohol taste and was a dissapointment yet the smuttynose old brown dog ale was very good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on January 03, 2012, 10:04:44 AM
I had a Dogfather bourbon barrel Russian Imperial stout, very noticeable chocolate malt flavor along with the bourbon taste, really enjoyed it but a bit pricy IMO ($11/22 oz. bomber)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 15, 2012, 09:26:38 AM
Pretty cool event for Milwaukee people: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/137219003.html (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/137219003.html)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ron Paul on January 15, 2012, 09:57:38 PM
Pretty cool event for Milwaukee people: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/137219003.html (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/137219003.html)

Also it was put together by a Marquette alum.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 21, 2012, 05:24:14 PM
Just came back from an event called the Brew Ha Ha, combining a gathering of microbrewers with stand up comedians.    New favorite beer...Mt Pleasant Brewing Company's Crazy Train.    A dark India Pale Ale.   Nectar.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on January 25, 2012, 11:02:33 AM
Was traveling for work and got to try a collaboration beer from Stone, The Alchemist, and Ninkasi called "More Brown than Black".  It's a Black IPA.  Solid, and just interesting to drink.

Also, finally got to enjoy Hopslam last night.  Restaurant I went to had it on draft.  It lives up to the hype.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 25, 2012, 11:26:37 AM
FYI for those looking for it, Goose Island Bourbon County Coffee Stout started shipping earlier this week. Should be hitting retailers late this week or early next week.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on January 25, 2012, 10:05:25 PM
FYI for those looking for it, Goose Island Bourbon County Coffee Stout started shipping earlier this week. Should be hitting retailers late this week or early next week.

Spammer.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 25, 2012, 10:44:31 PM
Spammer.  ;)

Shut it....anyway, the first cases hit the stores in Chicago today and most sold out of the allotment in under 2 hours. And this years tastes freaking amazing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on January 26, 2012, 12:04:53 PM
I picked up some New Glarus Barleywine Friday, not everyone likes barleywines but I enjoy them and this one I really like, gonna grab a case and cellar half of it for a few years
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on January 31, 2012, 08:26:43 AM
Heading to Three Floyds later in February for the tour and lunch at the pub.  Any experiences?  Also hitting up Round Barn, and possibly Bell's, and finishing up at Four Winds Casino for a little bachelor party day-o-fun. 

For anyone near by, any place we are missing, any suggestions, places we should go to, or skip?

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 31, 2012, 08:37:07 AM
If you are going to Bell's, swing an hour north to Grand Rapids and check out Founder's, as well as Brewery Vivant, and bars called Hopcat and Graydon's Crossing.   And call me.  
   Or, go another 20 minutes east to Battle Creek and hit Arcadia.   Not as great as Bell's, but pretty good. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on February 20, 2012, 04:53:28 PM
If anybody lives in the area and is thirsty for some good beer brewed in St. Paul......

Summit Brewing Company
Wisconsin fans: Join us this Thursday, February 23 at Sentry Liquor in Wauwatosa, WI for some delicious Summit samples from 4-6pm!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 20, 2012, 05:05:34 PM
Speaking of MSP, at Ike's enjoying a Surly Bender.....solid
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on February 20, 2012, 06:16:31 PM
Speaking of MSP, at Ike's enjoying a Surly Bender.....solid

Surly ranked as 11th best brewery in the world....some pretty good company as rated by  http://www.ratebeer.com/RateBeerBest/bestbrewers_012012.asp

 1  Three Floyds Brewing Company    Munster   Indiana    USA   
 2  Founders Brewing Company    Grand Rapids   Michigan    USA   
 3  Bells Brewery    Kalamazoo   Michigan    USA   
 4  AleSmith Brewing Company    San Diego   California    USA   
 5  Cigar City Brewing    Tampa   Florida    USA   
 6  Hill Farmstead Brewery    Greensboro   Vermont    USA   
 7  Stone Brewing Co.    Escondido   California    USA   
 8  Russian River Brewing    Santa Rosa   California    USA   
 9  De Struise Brouwers    Oostvleteren   -    Belgium   
 10  Kuhnhenn Brewing    Warren   Michigan    USA   
 11  Surly Brewing Company    Brooklyn Center   Minnesota    USA
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on February 22, 2012, 08:46:19 AM
Surly ranked as 11th best brewery in the world....some pretty good company as rated by  http://www.ratebeer.com/RateBeerBest/bestbrewers_012012.asp

 1  Three Floyds Brewing Company    Munster   Indiana    USA   
 2  Founders Brewing Company    Grand Rapids   Michigan    USA   
 3  Bells Brewery    Kalamazoo   Michigan    USA   
 4  AleSmith Brewing Company    San Diego   California    USA   
 5  Cigar City Brewing    Tampa   Florida    USA   
 6  Hill Farmstead Brewery    Greensboro   Vermont    USA   
 7  Stone Brewing Co.    Escondido   California    USA   
 8  Russian River Brewing    Santa Rosa   California    USA   
 9  De Struise Brouwers    Oostvleteren   -    Belgium   
 10  Kuhnhenn Brewing    Warren   Michigan    USA   
 11  Surly Brewing Company    Brooklyn Center   Minnesota    USA


Some of those rankings in link are flat out clownish.

But that's the beauty of a beauty beautifying contest. It's all about beauty for the ones who like certain beauty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 10, 2012, 03:22:54 PM
Barley wine Fest is on at the Sugar Maple, I counted 12 on the list last night

I tried the Moylans Blarney Wine and the New Glarus, the Moylans was good but the NG is very good
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 11, 2012, 12:36:51 PM
Barley wine Fest is on at the Sugar Maple, I counted 12 on the list last night

I tried the Moylans Blarney Wine and the New Glarus, the Moylans was good but the NG is very good

Speaking of Fest's...anyone going to Stoutfest in Chicago next Saturday?

At BW Fest was Central Waters present? What they did this year (well last year brewing) is pretty spectacular, probably my 2nd favorite after King Henry.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on March 11, 2012, 01:01:53 PM
Barley wine Fest is on at the Sugar Maple, I counted 12 on the list last night

I tried the Moylans Blarney Wine and the New Glarus, the Moylans was good but the NG is very good

I'm a huge Barley Wine nerd, and it's tough to find good selections as a lot of breweries don't brew them every year or they only sell a limited amount.  Will be up in MKE this week, gonna have to find time to get down to Sugar Maple for a couple samples.  What's the name of the NG barley wine? 

I've had a chance to get Central Waters 2010 and 2011, both were pretty fantastic.  Southern Tier Back Burner continues to be my favorite but I haven't seen it at all this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 11, 2012, 01:16:13 PM
I'm a huge Barley Wine nerd, and it's tough to find good selections as a lot of breweries don't brew them every year or they only sell a limited amount.  Will be up in MKE this week, gonna have to find time to get down to Sugar Maple for a couple samples.  What's the name of the NG barley wine? 

I've had a chance to get Central Waters 2010 and 2011, both were pretty fantastic.  Southern Tier Back Burner continues to be my favorite but I haven't seen it at all this year.

Have you tried the Barrel Aged CW BW? It's pretty tits.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on March 11, 2012, 01:26:53 PM
Have you tried the Barrel Aged CW BW? It's pretty tits.

Yeah, I was in Milwaukee and made my pilgrimage to Discount Liquors (which I do every time I go up because it's better than most anything here in Chicago) and they were selling single bottles.  Bought the two they allowed.  Positively delicious. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 12, 2012, 12:05:46 PM
What's the name of the NG barley wine? 

No name, it's their latest Thumbprint formerly Unplugged" series - just Barley wine

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Our 2012 Barley Wine bridges continents of style, a harmonious creation of Diploma Master Brewer Daniel Carey. He personally chose the hop fields that were harvested for this powerful beast of a brew. Styrian Golding, Willamette, Columbia, and Sterling with bold citrus and resin notes. All perfectly balanced with toasty graham cracker flavors of floor malted barley. Savor this very big beer at 45° F and it will reward you with an open embrace.
http://www.newglarusbrewing.com/index.cfm/beers/ourbeers/beer/barley-wine

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on March 12, 2012, 12:07:03 PM
No name, it's their latest Thumbprint formerly Unplugged" series - just Barley wine


Thanks. Will look for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on March 12, 2012, 12:28:02 PM
Quote
Yeah, I was in Milwaukee and made my pilgrimage to Discount Liquors (which I do every time I go up because it's better than most anything here in Chicago) and they were selling single bottles.  Bought the two they allowed.  Positively delicious.
 

  When I go up to Milwaukee I also stop by at DicLiq but only to get New Glarus and Alaskan Brewing Co. beers, stuff I can't get in Chicago. Where in Chicago do you buy beer? There are plenty of places.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on March 12, 2012, 12:46:08 PM
 

  When I go up to Milwaukee I also stop by at DicLiq but only to get New Glarus and Alaskan Brewing Co. beers, stuff I can't get in Chicago. Where in Chicago do you buy beer? There are plenty of places.

Typically Binny's.  I'm up in the North shore area.  It's not that Binny's doesn't have a good selection, I just find that Discount has better selection on the harder to find beers (i.e. last time up I was able to get this year's Hopslam and the CW Barrel Aged Barleywine).  They tend to have a better handle on their selection as well as what's coming up that's exciting. Binny's always seems to have less of a feel on what brewery's are up to unless their specific beer guy is in the store.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 12, 2012, 02:03:46 PM
I shouldn't post this because it will make the supply that much harder to find but Founders KBS is on it's way to stores now. A friend of mine hit KBS day at Founders on Saturday and for the 1st time in 5 years he was too late to get in the case line even though he showed up at the same time as before.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on March 12, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
I shouldn't post this because it will make the supply that much harder to find but Founders KBS is on it's way to stores now. A friend of mine hit KBS day at Founders on Saturday and for the 1st time in 5 years he was too late to get in the case line even though he showed up at the same time as before.

Great reminder.  Thanks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 12, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
 

  When I go up to Milwaukee I also stop by at DicLiq but only to get New Glarus and Alaskan Brewing Co. beers, stuff I can't get in Chicago. Where in Chicago do you buy beer? There are plenty of places.

I would go to Woodman's in Oak Creek now instead of Discount. Same if not better selection plus better prices.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on March 12, 2012, 05:59:36 PM
I would go to Woodman's in Oak Creek now instead of Discount. Same if not better selection plus better prices.

With you on the prices, I used to live just down the street from that Woodman's.  But there's nobody to talk beer with, and I personally like trying out new beers based on someone's knowledgeable recommendation.  I'd also disagree with the better selection.  May be on par for your typical craft beers and carrying most good breweries, but the limited release seasonals (i.e. CW barleywine, KBS, hopslam) won't typically be found there.

Edit:  Woodman's is a great place to buy beer and worth a trip for those who might have taken my comments as an indictment of their selection.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on March 12, 2012, 06:40:36 PM
I shouldn't post this because it will make the supply that much harder to find but Founders KBS is on it's way to stores now. A friend of mine hit KBS day at Founders on Saturday and for the 1st time in 5 years he was too late to get in the case line even though he showed up at the same time as before.


Thanks.  I doubt I will decrease your chances as I will be trying to secure some in Southeast Georgia.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 13, 2012, 12:08:45 AM
With you on the prices, I used to live just down the street from that Woodman's.  But there's nobody to talk beer with, and I personally like trying out new beers based on someone's knowledgeable recommendation.  I'd also disagree with the better selection.  May be on par for your typical craft beers and carrying most good breweries, but the limited release seasonals (i.e. CW barleywine, KBS, hopslam) won't typically be found there.

Edit:  Woodman's is a great place to buy beer and worth a trip for those who might have taken my comments as an indictment of their selection.

Woodman's gets the rare beers and I don't consider CWBW or Hopslam rare - I mean they both were heavily distributed. Woodman's GIBCS 2 years ago. When going to Discount, be VERY careful with ages. Also, you could go to Groppi's in Bay View. The buyers there (in conjunction with Downer Ave) do an AWESOME job of getting things plus they have 2 beers on tap. One of the first in the state to get Zombie Dust on tap last year. And CW Barleywine is easy as sin to get. They still have a ton at Binny's LP on Clybourn. And the Barrelaged BW too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on March 13, 2012, 07:36:52 AM
 Anyone tried Pipeworks Brewery's Ninja vs. Unicorn. They just started bottling as are many of the Chicago area breweries in the near future.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/food/stew/chi-pipeworks-brewing-pipeworks-brewing-launches-20120309,0,5985130.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/food/stew/chi-pipeworks-brewing-pipeworks-brewing-launches-20120309,0,5985130.story)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 13, 2012, 10:42:46 AM
Anyone tried Pipeworks Brewery's Ninja vs. Unicorn. They just started bottling as are many of the Chicago area breweries in the near future.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/food/stew/chi-pipeworks-brewing-pipeworks-brewing-launches-20120309,0,5985130.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/food/stew/chi-pipeworks-brewing-pipeworks-brewing-launches-20120309,0,5985130.story)

It's a solid dipa....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUFC9295 on March 13, 2012, 10:44:08 AM

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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: brewcity'77 on March 19, 2012, 01:19:45 PM
well since it looks like I'm gonna be shutout of any KBS this year I pulled out some 2009 vintage Founders Nemesis to share with my brother during the game against Murray St.

I had tried a bottle of this back when I bought it in '09 and I couldn't stand the dominant maple flavor so I hoped aging would improve it, WOW! what adifference a couple of years made. there was barely a hint of maple, instead there was a subtle chocolate with just a suggestion of mint among a very well balanced taste.

now, how long should I hold onto the 2010 Nemesis :hmmm:
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on April 04, 2012, 10:11:58 AM
Sierra Nevada is releasing there Hoptimum again this Spring, anyone ever had it?  Generally like a lot of SN, even if it is a larger scale micro beer.  The SN Celebration Ale is one of my go to's around the X-Mas holiday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 05, 2012, 12:17:12 AM
Sierra Nevada is releasing there Hoptimum again this Spring, anyone ever had it?  Generally like a lot of SN, even if it is a larger scale micro beer.  The SN Celebration Ale is one of my go to's around the X-Mas holiday.


It's a solid beer. I enjoy it. Tho I am currently drinking a Zombie Dust after a night of Goose Island Bramble and Marisol and Black Xanus.

As for the larger scale craft brewery - that's a crap thing. If the beer is good, drink it. If it sucks, don't drink it. Full disclosure I work for Goose Island and this ticks me off. I won't into here but the beer we make kicks ass (for the most part - hell, I know we are not even immune certain things but our Belgian Style and Bourbon / Aged beers are world unnatural carnal knowledgeing class) but there are other small breweries people keep going to which don't turn out nearly as good of beer as Goose, Sierra, Deschutes, Bell's, etc. End Rant.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on April 05, 2012, 06:45:58 AM

It's a solid beer. I enjoy it. Tho I am currently drinking a Zombie Dust after a night of Goose Island Bramble and Marisol and Black Xanus.

As for the larger scale craft brewery - that's a crap thing. If the beer is good, drink it. If it sucks, don't drink it. Full disclosure I work for Goose Island and this ticks me off. I won't into here but the beer we make kicks ass (for the most part - hell, I know we are not even immune certain things but our Belgian Style and Bourbon / Aged beers are world fracking class) but there are other small breweries people keep going to which don't turn out nearly as good of beer as Goose, Sierra, Deschutes, Bell's, etc. End Rant.

Damn, any chance of hooking some fellow alums up with a bottle of bramble?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on April 05, 2012, 07:36:57 AM
Damn, any chance of hooking some fellow alums up with a bottle of bramble?

If I could, I would. Contrary to what many people think, we don't get any special allocations. We have to go fight with everyone else to get bottles. The only special thing we have is that we know some of the store owners who give us a heads up when they get their AB delivery, but that's it. They don't hold bottles back, it's still a free for all.

I would highly suggest looking for a trade for it, it is quite good. Not King Henry good (which is by far the best beer we have made since Rare) but still damn tasty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on April 05, 2012, 12:31:11 PM
I been trying to hoard all of the remaining Central Waters Peruvian Breakfast all week, almost done, love this one, perhaps even more than KBS or Goose Island Bourbon County not to mention easier to get since not everyone knows about this one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 05, 2012, 11:13:33 PM
Had been quite awhile since I put together some tasting notes, so here goes. And my sampling has taken a big hit since The Bomb Shelter closed.

Left Hand Fade to Black 3- Fascinating beer. Silky smooth chocolate taste, with a smokiness followed by a touch of heat from some pepper. Heat intensified as it warmed.
Dark Horse Perkulator- Not bad. Billed as a coffee dopplebock, was a little on the thin side. Coffee was there in the aroma, but not as pronounced in the flavor.
Lakefront “Dan” Baltic Porter- Love the idea behind this series, and the beer was pretty damn good, too. Hid the alcohol well, very big, robust flavor. Would like to see them brew a porter again.

New Glarus Hop Hearty- Was surprised by this. After their disappointing DIPA I half expected this to be light on hops. It wasn’t. Very solid IPA.
Flossmoor Station Rail Hopper- Not sure what the hell this one was. Hopped like an IPA with the malt of a double made it undrinkably sweet. Didn’t finish it.
Lagunitas Wilco Tango Foxtrot- Cheap for a 22 oz, which was nice. Very hoppy, not much malt there. Similar in style to Bridge Burner, but with not as much going on.
Abita Honey Rye- Big honey sweetness up front, some faint spice from the rye. Good drinkability, I’d almost like a little more bitterness to balance out the sweet, though.
Boulevard Sixth Glass- Out of this world. A big Belgian Quad at 10.5% but is still oddly drinkable. Nice malty sweetness with some spice from the yeast. Cloudy amber color, pours beautifully. I wish they’d distribute in MKE.

Boulevard Dark Truth- Big imperial stout, over 9%, but goes down almost dangerously easy. Perfect stout flavor, with some fruit and creaminess. Outstanding.
New Glarus Road Slush- Decent. Smooth, but lacked the body I expected for an oatmeal stout.
Dark Horse Tres Blueberry Stout- Didn’t know what to expect when I opened it. Heavy fruit aroma, but it was pretty well balanced. Another interesting one to try.
Dark Horse Too Cream Stout- Phenomenal. Like it better than Bell’s Double Cream, and that’s saying something. Hides the 8% exceptionally well.
Founders Imperial Stout- Exactly what you’d want in an imperial stout. Big, complex, brilliant. Expected nothing less from Founders, though.
Lake Louie Milk Stout- Very nice balance, not too sweet, not too roasty. Gives Left Hand a run for it’s money. Would love to try this on nitro.
Milw. Brewing Polish Moon- Not bad, but nothing I’d write home about. Would be a decent entry point for the style, but there are better milk stouts out there.

Southern Tier Old Man Winter- Not a big “winter warmer” guy but I liked this one. Lot of body and nice hoppiness. Enough alcohol to warm you up a bit with out tasting like pie seasoning.
Great Lakes Christmas- Good, for the style. A nice dessert beer more than anything. Lots of caramel/cinnamon/nutmeg taste to it. Not sure I could drink more than one or two, though.
New Belgium Snow Day- Mediocre. Tasted like a little darker version of Fat Tire. Nothing remarkable about it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on April 07, 2012, 12:11:35 PM
Had been quite awhile since I put together some tasting notes, so here goes. And my sampling has taken a big hit since The Bomb Shelter closed.


Firstly, your notes are impressive and well appreciated.

Secondly, when did the above happen? Was there just about a month ago. Great spot.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on April 07, 2012, 08:53:45 PM
Firstly, your notes are impressive and well appreciated.

Secondly, when did the above happen? Was there just about a month ago. Great spot.

The owner passed away in March, had a heart attack before opening the bar one day. He had a heart condition, only 46 years old. Very sad.

I drove by there the other day, and the sign on the door says it's closed until further notice. I hope they can find a buyer, that place is on my short list of favorite bars in Milwaukee.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on April 08, 2012, 12:26:23 PM
The owner passed away in March, had a heart attack before opening the bar one day. He had a heart condition, only 46 years old. Very sad.

I drove by there the other day, and the sign on the door says it's closed until further notice. I hope they can find a buyer, that place is on my short list of favorite bars in Milwaukee.

That's terrible to hear. Must have been just after I was there. Was in town for Georgetown game and stopped by after hearing so much about it. Walking out the door I was already looking forward to my return visit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on April 28, 2012, 07:56:17 PM
If anyone is traveling from Chicago to Milwaukee for games (or on their way back)... http://www.mikelikesbeer.com/UMhwy.htm (http://www.mikelikesbeer.com/UMhwy.htm) is a great place that almost always has on solid micros, seasonal brews, and your status quo Wisconsin fare.  The food is pretty stellar as well. 

Some good friends of mine own the three of them, Uncle Mike's down by the lake has made to order burgers that are un-friggin-believable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on April 30, 2012, 09:53:08 AM
If anyone is traveling from Chicago to Milwaukee for games (or on their way back)... http://www.mikelikesbeer.com/UMhwy.htm (http://www.mikelikesbeer.com/UMhwy.htm) is a great place that almost always has on solid micros, seasonal brews, and your status quo Wisconsin fare.  The food is pretty stellar as well. 

Some good friends of mine own the three of them, Uncle Mike's down by the lake has made to order burgers that are un-friggin-believable.

that'b Captain Mikes down by the lake, just in there last weekend - try the bacon wrapped shrimp appetizer, friggin' incredible for only $6

there are deals on restaurant.com all the time for all three locations
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on May 01, 2012, 03:32:29 PM
I enjoyed the new Session IPA from Founders (All Day IPA).  Really enjoyable beer... perfect for a post lawn-mowing refreshment.  

Learned about it from Steve Dolinsky, who has a regular "Beer of the Week" feature presented by the owner of Hopleaf.  There's also a nod to Two Brothers Domaine DuPage, which has been my favorite beer to pair with food for years.

http://stevedolinsky.com/?cat=50
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on May 01, 2012, 03:46:51 PM
I love Founders Brewery. Their Porter is one of my all time favorite beers and is available all year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 02, 2012, 12:22:56 PM
I love Founders Brewery. Their Porter is one of my all time favorite beers and is available all year.

Loved their "Old Curmudgeon" a little too much this weekend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: warthog-driver on May 02, 2012, 07:17:50 PM
Best Beer Region outside of Germany? The Pacific Northwest. No debate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on May 02, 2012, 07:30:01 PM
Best Beer Region outside of Germany? The Pacific Northwest. No debate.
I know some Belgian Monks that might take issue with that proposition.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: warthog-driver on May 02, 2012, 07:33:41 PM
I know some Belgian Monks that might take issue with that proposition.

Or Czech burghers. I like a Belgo style Abbey beers as much as the next guy but the beers in Oregon and Washington are stupendous.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 02, 2012, 10:16:23 PM
Or Czech burghers. I like a Belgo style Abbey beers as much as the next guy but the beers in Oregon and Washington are stupendous.

Abbey is just a small part....sours, lambic, pales, saison, farmhouse, single, dubble, triple, quad, strong ales, blondes.....Belgian produces the greatest variety and styles with the most complex flavors.....until someone out west starts messing with Brettanomyces or using lactic acid bacteria this discussion isn't really fair.

The PNW makes wonderful and some of the best APA and American IPA's in the world, but they are a lot like Novak...they only do that one thing world class.....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on May 03, 2012, 09:14:05 AM
Best Beer Region outside of Germany? The Pacific Northwest. No debate.

Opinions are like pretty boys.......

I'll take the centuries of perfecting a craft over the comparatively flash in a pan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on May 03, 2012, 09:17:50 AM
.....until someone out west starts messing with Brettanomyces or using lactic acid bacteria this discussion isn't really fair.

Think about what you're saying.  People in the PNW take to fads like flies to a horse's pretty boy... cut off the APA/IPA faucet and start importing aged nobles... my God, there would be a civil war in the PNW between the hop growers and brewers if someone started messing with sours out there.


EDIT --- Hmmm.... maybe I'm on to something.  Perhaps I'll go home tonight and see what happens when I mix lambic with Soviet stout (a hyper-hopped imperial).  Hopefully, I'll live to tell.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on May 03, 2012, 11:50:03 AM
Dark Horse Too Cream Stout- Phenomenal. Like it better than Bell’s Double Cream, and that’s saying something. Hides the 8% exceptionally well.


Tried on your recommendation - very good but like Bells Double Cream better....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Strokin 3s on May 04, 2012, 01:24:33 PM
I know some Belgian Monks that might take issue with that proposition.

Westmalle Trappist Dubbel any day for me. mmmmmm
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on May 04, 2012, 04:57:55 PM
Dark Horse Too Cream Stout- Phenomenal. Like it better than Bell’s Double Cream, and that’s saying something. Hides the 8% exceptionally well.


Tried on your recommendation - very good but like Bells Double Cream better....

So which is it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on May 07, 2012, 02:43:04 PM
MUfan12 say  "Like it better than Bell’s Double Cream"

I say "very good but like Bells Double Cream better...."


So which is it
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 07, 2012, 03:44:42 PM
Have been able to try three new things lately......

Six Point Bengali Tiger - IPA, 16oz can poured into a shaker pint....pretty good, but a typical hopped up IPA. It's not as good Two Hearted but it was a pretty good beer.
Six Point Resin - American Imperial / Double IPA, 16oz can poured into a tulip....it's a good beer, but again not great. Nice bitterness but still floral. It's a thick beer - which I really enjoyed. The taste does linger a bit, but I am a fan of that.

Not beer, but still really worth trying...

Virtue Cider's RedStreak - English Style Cider, draft, shaker pint - I finally saw this on draft and wanted to try this as I have only been able to have some samples in the office in the past. It's easily one of the top ciders I have ever tried. It's not sweet at all like Crispin or 99% of the others out on the market, but rather very dry and almost champagne like. It's extremely refreshing and clean. It's worth a try or at least ask for a taste if you see it.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on May 07, 2012, 04:08:03 PM
I stopped in Three Cellars in Franklin for the 1st time, neat set-up but wtf? their website states 'over 500 beers' - where? No way they offer even close to 500 beers as far as I could tell but they do have a great selection of midwest micros and the ability to buy single bottles is a plus
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on May 07, 2012, 04:53:36 PM
MUfan12 say  "Like it better than Bell’s Double Cream"

I say "very good but like Bells Double Cream better...."



Oh I see, first sentence was supposed to be quoted. Gotcha.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 07, 2012, 08:00:43 PM
Have been able to try three new things lately......

Six Point Bengali Tiger - IPA, 16oz can poured into a shaker pint....pretty good, but a typical hopped up IPA. It's not as good Two Hearted but it was a pretty good beer.
Six Point Resin - American Imperial / Double IPA, 16oz can poured into a tulip....it's a good beer, but again not great. Nice bitterness but still floral. It's a thick beer - which I really enjoyed. The taste does linger a bit, but I am a fan of that.

Not beer, but still really worth trying...

Virtue Cider's RedStreak - English Style Cider, draft, shaker pint - I finally saw this on draft and wanted to try this as I have only been able to have some samples in the office in the past. It's easily one of the top ciders I have ever tried. It's not sweet at all like Crispin or 99% of the others out on the market, but rather very dry and almost champagne like. It's extremely refreshing and clean. It's worth a try or at least ask for a taste if you see it.



Along the lines of 'not beer', I highly recommend "Zombie Killer" if you can find it.

http://www.bnektar.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on May 08, 2012, 11:44:58 AM
My summer list was recently released:

http://www.worldbeercup.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/WBC12-Winners-List1.pdf

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 08, 2012, 11:50:26 AM
My summer list was recently released:

http://www.worldbeercup.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/WBC12-Winners-List1.pdf



Michelob Ultra???
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on May 08, 2012, 11:50:51 AM
Quote
My summer list was recently released:

http://www.worldbeercup.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/WBC12-Winners-List1.pdf

  Same. I was amazed at the amount of breweries that won that I have not heard of compared to years past. I believe they said entrants for this year's WBC were up about 20% from last year.

  Revolution Brewery in Chicago has some amazing food, bacon covered popcorn..mmmmm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on May 08, 2012, 12:03:24 PM
Does it make me a bitch if I like Summer Shandy?  Also, anyone make their own shandy, rather than buying it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 08, 2012, 12:10:35 PM
Does it make me a bitch if I like Summer Shandy?  Also, anyone make their own shandy, rather than buying it?

It makes you a bitch, yes. :)

But everyone likes what they like.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on May 08, 2012, 12:35:39 PM
Category 44: American-Style Premium Lager or Specialty Lager, 37 Entries
Gold: Steel Reserve, Miller Brewing Co., Golden, CO
Silver: Evans Original, Cervecería Mexicana, Corona, CA


I refuse to recognize any beer governing body as legitimate if they award a gold medal, in any category, to Steel Reserve.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bocephys on May 08, 2012, 12:56:53 PM
Category 44: American-Style Premium Lager or Specialty Lager, 37 Entries
Gold: Steel Reserve, Miller Brewing Co., Golden, CO
Silver: Evans Original, Cervecería Mexicana, Corona, CA


I refuse to recognize any beer governing body as legitimate if they award a gold medal, in any category, to Steel Reserve.

They should at least change the category name to "Best way to get drunk cheap if you're in college or homeless".
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: JimmyB! on May 09, 2012, 06:17:42 PM
Does it make me a bitch if I like Summer Shandy?  Also, anyone make their own shandy, rather than buying it?

Oh man that stuff is awful. Leiny's makes some good beer (Big Eddy), but that is not one of them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on May 09, 2012, 07:11:51 PM
Had some Furthermore Knot Stock yesterday. It opened up ok, but nothing REALLY exciting.  Some pepper hints, the rest was kinda nondescript.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 10, 2012, 09:15:57 AM
Had some Furthermore Knot Stock yesterday. It opened up ok, but nothing REALLY exciting.  Some pepper hints, the rest was kinda nondescript.

I do knot like that beer.  It is right up there with juniper and smoke infused beers with ones that I hate.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on May 10, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
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It is right up there with juniper and smoke infused beers with ones that I hate.

 
+1, I don't want to drink a campfire when I have a beer
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: TheButlerDidIt on May 10, 2012, 02:10:46 PM
Speaking of Furthermore, how's the Makeweight?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: TheButlerDidIt on May 10, 2012, 02:31:12 PM
I stopped in Three Cellars in Franklin for the 1st time, neat set-up but wtf? their website states 'over 500 beers' - where? No way they offer even close to 500 beers as far as I could tell but they do have a great selection of midwest micros and the ability to buy single bottles is a plus

They just recently cut out a lot of their imports-probably about 90% of them. They kept the ones that actually sold. They're still expanding their regional/national selection in order to fill the spaces the imports left behind.

I'm actually going there today, they've got Vintage Jinja Ninja and Saison DuPont on tap. They also have that Nebraska IPA (I think it was call Romancing the Cone) on tap-it is REEEALLY delicious.

If anyone is in the Wind Lake direction, definitely check out B&B Beverage. Very good selection (Probably Groppi-size) and the owner, Ahman, is really knowledgeable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 10, 2012, 06:21:39 PM
Speaking of Furthermore, how's the Makeweight?

I like it. Very complex. Blend of American, British and Belgian IPA's. Has some good funk to it which I like. Kind of barnyardy but still has some smooth hops bitterness. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on May 14, 2012, 01:10:42 PM
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/your_money/business_news/bells-brewery-opens-new-brewhouse

For all of you Bell's fans out there......
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on May 15, 2012, 07:59:06 PM
Can Beer Save America?

Interesting read:

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/07/can_beer_save_america/singleton/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: john31 on May 15, 2012, 08:23:00 PM
Have been able to try three new things lately......

Six Point Bengali Tiger - IPA, 16oz can poured into a shaker pint....pretty good, but a typical hopped up IPA. It's not as good Two Hearted but it was a pretty good beer.
Six Point Resin - American Imperial / Double IPA, 16oz can poured into a tulip....it's a good beer, but again not great. Nice bitterness but still floral. It's a thick beer - which I really enjoyed. The taste does linger a bit, but I am a fan of that.

Not beer, but still really worth trying...

Virtue Cider's RedStreak - English Style Cider, draft, shaker pint - I finally saw this on draft and wanted to try this as I have only been able to have some samples in the office in the past. It's easily one of the top ciders I have ever tried. It's not sweet at all like Crispin or 99% of the others out on the market, but rather very dry and almost champagne like. It's extremely refreshing and clean. It's worth a try or at least ask for a taste if you see it.



Has anyone else tried RedStreak? I had it at the Hideout and was really impressed. Really hard to describe, neither a beer nor a wine but really good. A little dry and smelled like real apples with a little Autumn thrown in. I would be interested in hearing what others think.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on May 16, 2012, 12:35:40 PM
Has anyone had their hands on Lakefront's Wisconsinite yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU7703 on May 16, 2012, 01:03:24 PM
Has anyone had their hands on Lakefront's Wisconsinite yet?

Yes.  I picked up a six pack this weekend.  I'd say it is pretty similar to Hacker Pschorr but a little sweeter.  Adding a lemon makes it quite a bit more bitter.  As usual, it's a solid beer from Lakefront but nothing earth shattering.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on May 16, 2012, 03:18:43 PM
Any takes on more craft brewers using cans?  I liken the switch, easier to carry, I own a bunch of can coozies...so yeah, pro can.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on May 16, 2012, 03:24:22 PM
I'm all for the can esp. since I pour it into a glass anyway.

Off the top of my head, now Sierra Nevada, Oskar blues and Milwaukee Brewing are canning besides some UK beers that have been for a while.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on May 16, 2012, 03:33:12 PM
The last time I had a microbrew out of a can it tasted like the can.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on May 16, 2012, 03:44:14 PM
The last time I had a microbrew out of a can it tasted like the can.   

+1

I bought some Island Wheat once for a Metra ride into Chicago. Here I was trying to be cool with a micro in a can and everyone agreed it tasted like ass.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on May 16, 2012, 04:36:37 PM
You don't actually taste the can because the cans are lined but when it's up by your nose you smell the aluminum and that fools your senses into tasting it

if you pour the can contents into a glass you won't 'taste' the can
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 16, 2012, 06:20:12 PM
You don't actually taste the can because the cans are lined but when it's up by your nose you smell the aluminum and that fools your senses into tasting it

if you pour the can contents into a glass you won't 'taste' the can

right, and that is what they intend for you to do... same with bottles.

pour into a glass.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on May 16, 2012, 06:22:30 PM
right, and that is what they intend for you to do... same with bottles.

pour into a glass.

Well that doesn't really work on a train ride now does it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on May 16, 2012, 06:35:09 PM
Well that doesn't really work on a train ride now does it?

sure, one of the drinky thermos things people put coffee in would work just fine!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on May 16, 2012, 06:39:45 PM
I'm all for the can esp. since I pour it into a glass anyway.

Off the top of my head, now Sierra Nevada, Oskar blues and Milwaukee Brewing are canning besides some UK beers that have been for a while.

I'm a big fan of Oskar Blues.  Their Old Chub is my favorite Scotch Ale out there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 17, 2012, 10:45:52 AM
Other breweries that are doing cans include: New Belgium (Shift is solid), Sulry (Furious and Coffee Bender are both tastey), Half Acre, Goose, Six Point (I just had The Crisp and it was by far my favorite from them so far. Better than Resin and Bengali Tiger)...Also Revolution is about to launch it's production brewery in cans as well.

The nice thing about cans is they way more stable than bottles in the completely protect from light damage. They are also nice as you can bring them to beaches and places where glass often isn't allowed.

And if you're drinking a craft beer you should always try and pour it into a glass since so much of the flavor is from the aroma.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on May 17, 2012, 11:11:50 AM
Surly says that they use cans to be "green".  That is what the owner claims.  The head brewer claims this.

Why did Surly go with cans instead of bottles for most of the lineup? I've been a fan of beer in cans forever; Omar was receptive to my idea eventually. My wife Linda contributed the 16-ounce size idea. We brew with a high percentage of finishing hops and cans do not allow any light-struck off flavors to develop.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 17, 2012, 11:14:32 AM
Surly says that they use cans to be "green".

There is a lot of debate on how green cans really are. Yes, they cost much less to ship than bottles and therefore use less fuel but the mining process to extract aluminum has a huge impact on the environment. The only true green beers are draft only and sold locally only. Otherwise, it's really a horse a piece.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on May 17, 2012, 12:03:32 PM
the guys at Milwaukee Brewing also stress green and mentioned the percentage of cans that end up being recycled vs. glass bottles
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on May 17, 2012, 12:37:56 PM
Chicago Craft Beer Week starts today, anyone heading out to any events?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 24, 2012, 12:04:00 PM
Does it make me a bitch if I like Summer Shandy?  Also, anyone make their own shandy, rather than buying it?

I like the Leiney's Summer Shandy and Farson's Shandy (a brewer from the island of Malta).   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 24, 2012, 12:06:55 PM
Other breweries that are doing cans include: New Belgium (Shift is solid), Sulry (Furious and Coffee Bender are both tastey), Half Acre, Goose, Six Point (I just had The Crisp and it was by far my favorite from them so far. Better than Resin and Bengali Tiger)...Also Revolution is about to launch it's production brewery in cans as well.

The nice thing about cans is they way more stable than bottles in the completely protect from light damage. They are also nice as you can bring them to beaches and places where glass often isn't allowed.

And if you're drinking a craft beer you should always try and pour it into a glass since so much of the flavor is from the aroma.

There's a microbrewery out here called the New England Brewery and they've used cans for awhile because they said it's less expensive to can beer than bottle it and it allows them to be more competitive price-wise.  FWIW
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on May 24, 2012, 01:21:57 PM
A shot in the dark but does anyone have good information on what will become of the Bomb Shelter?

I wonder how that would be handled whether they try and keep it in the family; look for new owner; or even look to sell off stock to us nerds.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 24, 2012, 01:47:54 PM
A shot in the dark but does anyone have good information on what will become of the Bomb Shelter?

I wonder how that would be handled whether they try and keep it in the family; look for new owner; or even look to sell off stock to us nerds.

They cleaned out the place, which will become another bar I guess. The landlord has been awful to deal with during this process, including trying to steal and sell off some of the memorabilia in there after the owner died.

At this point, I have heard the former manager and a few other people are looking for a new location. Nothing imminent, though.

Gotta say, it was sad driving by there last week and seeing the place boarded up, and the signs no longer there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on May 24, 2012, 08:07:27 PM
They cleaned out the place, which will become another bar I guess. The landlord has been awful to deal with during this process, including trying to steal and sell off some of the memorabilia in there after the owner died.

At this point, I have heard the former manager and a few other people are looking for a new location. Nothing imminent, though.

Gotta say, it was sad driving by there last week and seeing the place boarded up, and the signs no longer there.

Thanks, man. I kind of figured it would be a torch job whether by a new owner or the landlord.

Really, really sucks for Milwaukee to lose that place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 13, 2012, 08:54:46 AM
This past weekend I traveled down to Indy to visit some friends and had the pleasure of trying some new beers from Sun King as well as one from Flat 12 - both local breweries.

Sun King Osirus Pale Ale - damn this is a tasty beer. clean, refreshing with just a balanced hop bitterness. really good.
Sun King Wee Mac Brown Ale - a good beer, body a bit thin but I liked it.
Flat 12 Half Cycle IPA - meh, didn't care for this. tasted like home brew ipa, and not a good one.

Then on Monday I got to try Black Mission, the 3rd beer in our Goose Island Fulton and Wood innovation beers. It's an Abby Style Ale, close to a triple, that is brewed with Vienna Malts and then secondarily fermented with Black Mission figs as well as having lactose sugar added to boost the abv and add creaminess. It comes in at 8% and is great. A nice, easy fruit sweetness on the front that doesn't linger but finishes really dry due to the traditional lager malts. http://youtu.be/KMsgSuMoBZ0 (http://youtu.be/KMsgSuMoBZ0)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: TheButlerDidIt on June 13, 2012, 09:25:00 AM
Thanks, man. I kind of figured it would be a torch job whether by a new owner or the landlord.

Really, really sucks for Milwaukee to lose that place.


I recently read somewhere (I think a Beer Advocate thread) that the former bar manager and another partner have secured a place near Stubby's by Lakefront Brewery.

It'd be nice if it was kept on the southside, but beggars (me) can't be choosers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on June 13, 2012, 12:33:31 PM
Checked out the new O'So brewhouse in Plover a few weekends ago.   Very cool - all of the O'So brews on tap (many on nitro) and many, many other Wisconsin-originated micro-brews and specialty beers all on tap...

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on June 14, 2012, 09:10:23 AM
OK.  Summer brews... I'm an Oberon fan, and I actually like the Lakefront Wheat Monkey.  I believe we had this going last summer as well, but there is always a chance for a new brew, or changes to an old brew.

Fade to Black by Lefthand is again amazing.... on tap at Uncle Mike's on Highway 94 in Kenosha.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: TheButlerDidIt on June 14, 2012, 09:58:01 AM
OK.  Summer brews... I'm an Oberon fan, and I actually like the Lakefront Wheat Monkey.  I believe we had this going last summer as well, but there is always a chance for a new brew, or changes to an old brew.

Fade to Black by Lefthand is again amazing.... on tap at Uncle Mike's on Highway 94 in Kenosha.

New Glarus Dancing Man is a great summer beer. It's pretty big for a wheat beer coming in over 7% ABV.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 14, 2012, 10:38:20 AM
New Glarus Dancing Man is a great summer beer. It's pretty big for a wheat beer coming in over 7% ABV.

Summer specific beers I like:

NG Dancing Man
Futhermore Fattyboomblatty
Goose Summertime

I also drink may more citrus hop beers in the summer like Gumball Head, Zombie Dust, Racer 5.....
Also this year Red Streak by Virtue Cider has been a solid choice.

For some reason I cannot get into Oberon, too sweet for my taste. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on June 14, 2012, 11:25:00 AM
Summer specific beers I like:

NG Dancing Man
Futhermore Fattyboomblatty
Goose Summertime

I also drink may more citrus hop beers in the summer like Gumball Head, Zombie Dust, Racer 5.....
Also this year Red Streak by Virtue Cider has been a solid choice.

I'd also toss Ale Asylum Bedlam on there, as well as Sweet Action from Sixpoint.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on June 14, 2012, 11:59:15 AM
Alright... gotta get some tasting notes out there.

Goose Island Marisol- Loved this complex beer. Belgian base with coriander, citrus, and almost some green tea notes. Very tasty.

Goose Island Pepe Nero- Rich, dark, and spicy. A lot going on but still kept its balance, really liked it.

Tallgrass Velvet Rooster- Sweeter than your average tripel, and more carbonated. Not bad, but was wanting more of that yeasty funk and spice to it.

Anderson Valley Boont Oude Bruijn- Sour brown ale, really not my thing.

Boulder Mojo IPA (nitro)- Very interesting, loved the balance between the hoppiness and the smoothness off the the nitro pour.

Sprecher Maibock- Good, but unremarkable. Pretty standard Maibock.

Sixpoint Sweet Action- As I mentioned before, one of my new go-to beers. It's a hopped up cream ale, very easy drinking with enough hops to keep things interesting.

Capital Hop Cream- Similar in theory to the Sweet Action, but not as good. It drinks more like a pale ale than anything else. Wouldn't throw it out of my fridge.

Sixpoint Crisp- I think Chili mentioned this one earlier, and I was a fan as well. Flavor wise, it reminded me of Carlsberg, except fresh and well made. Very nice beer.

Dark Horse Double Crooked Tree- Was able to snag a bottle, and it's remarkable. I've never had a hoppy beer with that high of an ABV have no noticeable bite. Best I've had in that style.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on June 14, 2012, 12:04:38 PM
Flying Dog Raging Bitch- Wasn't crazy about this one, too bitter and not enough Belgian. Ended up tasting like a weird IPA.

New Belgium Shift- Didn't know what to expect from a pale lager, but it's a really nice beer. The hops are there, but I think the lagering took a lot of their bite out. There's still some bitterness present, but the mellow hops add a nice floral note.

New Belgium Belgo- Decent Belgian style IPA. Prefer Bedlam to this one, though.

New Belgium Lychee Wild Ale- Went out on a limb and tried this one. It's tart, but had a nice sweetness from the lychee. And then out of nowhere came some cinnamon flavors, which helped round it out.

New Holland Golden Cap- Very good saison, enough spice notes to balance it out but not overwhelming. Good summer beer.

Lagunitas Censored- Great session beer, caramely aroma and a lot of malt up front, but the hops hit at the end.

Lagunitas Doppleweizen- Drank a lot like Dancing Man, but stronger. Huge wheat flavor and some warmth from the alcohol.

Lakefront Brad- Part of their "My Turn" series. Usually not a Scottish ale guy, but this one was very nice. Instead of a malt bomb, they actually hopped it up a bit.

Lakefront Wisconsinite- The story of this beer is awesome, the execution is alright. Easy enough drinking Weiss, but something was a bit off. Usually an ardent "don't fruit the beer" guy, but a lemon really helped brighten this one up.

Also... had an 15 month old bottle of 90 Minute that I aged. I know, I know, you're not supposed to age IPA's. But this beer was fantastic. The aging really transformed the beer and gave it more strength and balance.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 14, 2012, 12:20:09 PM
After scoring over a case of the 2012 Central Waters Peruvian Morning I was disapointed to read this today on their website
Quote
To Our Valued Fans:

After much scrutiny and tastings, we are announcing a voluntary recall of the 2012 batches of Peruvian Morning. The beer has begun to take on a distinct off flavor that is not our intention, and as we stand behind the quality of our beer, we are offering our customers the opportunity to exchange the product they feel is bad for something else.

We would like to clarify that this beer will not hurt you by drinking it, but the flavor profile is undesirable for the style. The nature of our barrel aging program, specifically Peruvian Morning, carries many variables, and a certain level of risk. We have implemented, and will continue to implement strategies to keep this from happening again.

We at Central Waters care very deeply about the quality of our beers, and as a small company every customer is important to us. As such, if you have Peruvian Morning that you feel has gone bad and would like an exchange, please send an email to peruvian@centralwaters.com and we will be in touch with you on a case by case basis.

Again, we apologize for the problem, it is unfortunately a nature of this business sometimes, we intend to make it right by everyone.

Thank you for your support, now and in the future.

Sincerely,
Central Waters Brewing Company

The 2011 batch was soo good, I drank one of the 2012 bottles so far and it was a bit 'off' but I hoped aging it some would help, guess it won't, waiting to see how CW replies to my email.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on June 14, 2012, 12:44:51 PM
Boulevard issued a very similar one for their Chocolate Ale. Wonder if there's a connection, or common ingredient at all.

http://www.boulevard.com/beers/chocolate-ale-refund-announcement/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 14, 2012, 01:21:34 PM
Boulevard issued a very similar one for their Chocolate Ale. Wonder if there's a connection, or common ingredient at all.

http://www.boulevard.com/beers/chocolate-ale-refund-announcement/

Nope, just them learning about how to properly barrel age. It's really really hard as the really good barrel aged programs know how to blend the best. So all of the programs are going to have bumps and even the top programs will have issues every once in a while.

Hopefully it is something like oxidation where they can reprop the beer into something else and not a bad infection. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: The Process on June 22, 2012, 08:16:10 PM
I'm going to Palm Tavern tonight in Bay View.  I haven't been there in several years (although I live well within stumbling distance).

I'm sure I'm going to find some awesome beers that I haven't had before.  Mmm... beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on July 01, 2012, 09:05:32 PM
Tried the bier garten at Estabrook park this afternoon.  Very pleasant.  Hoffbrau Dunkel, weissbier and  original, on tap, in proper 1/2 liter and full liter glass mugs.  I will be back.  Enough shade, and very friendly patrons.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bocephys on July 01, 2012, 10:14:31 PM
Tried the bier garten at Estabrook park this afternoon.  Very pleasant.  Hoffbrau Dunkel, weissbier and  original, on tap, in proper 1/2 liter and full liter glass mugs.  I will be back.  Enough shade, and very friendly patrons.

And you can bring your own Stein!  Their pretzels looked big and tasty too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on July 01, 2012, 10:23:38 PM
Had the Founders Red Rye P.A. Tonight, not usually an IPA guy, but this wad tastey.  (if that's even a word.)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on July 09, 2012, 01:00:04 PM
I saw that the Sugar Maple will be named best beer bar in the country in the upcoming issue of Playboy

of course I doubt that every beer bar was judged but a nice PR boost for them anyway
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on July 10, 2012, 04:52:41 PM
I saw that the Sugar Maple will be named best beer bar in the country in the upcoming issue of Playboy

of course I doubt that every beer bar was judged but a nice PR boost for them anyway

It's a good one. Bay View is fortunate to have three of the best in the country with Sugar Maple, The Palm and Roman's - which is my personal favorite. That doesn't even count Burnheart's which has gone from Hipster dungeon to a great beer bar. PJ has done great things there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on July 16, 2012, 09:47:07 AM
Mrs. Red Stripe & I stopped in at the Horny Goat Sunday afternoon. We haven't been there since the early years, last time they had brewing equipment delivered but not yet operational.

Holy crap did they make some improvements outside!

Really love the outdoor set-up, we got a tour from the manager who mentioned they bought the marina across the river and will keep it a marina (I suspect so no one else could build condos there and have noise complaints) they bought land to the south and have plans to build a 4 story parking ramp and a larger brewery. Point still makes their packaged beer and they aren't totally satisfied with the product so want to bring it inhouse to control the process.

I suspect they do have issues with having such a small kitchen especially considering the large crowds they can handle outside.

I was disapointed that several beers were not available: Double IPA, Bock and the vanilla brown ale but I did really like the 2011 barley wine.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on July 16, 2012, 09:48:35 AM
Mrs. Red Stripe & I stopped in at the Horny Goat Sunday afternoon. We haven't been there since the early years, last time they had brewing equipment delivered but not yet operational.

Holy crap did they make some improvements outside!

Really love the outdoor set-up, we got a tour from the manager who mentioned they bought the marina across the river and will keep it a marina (I suspect so no one else could build condos there and have noise complaints) they bought land to the south and have plans to build a 4 story parking ramp and a larger brewery. Point still makes their packaged beer and they aren't totally satisfied with the product so want to bring it inhouse to control the process.

I suspect they do have issues with having such a small kitchen especially considering the large crowds they can handle outside.

I was disapointed that several beers were not available: Double IPA, Bock and the vanilla brown ale but I did really like the 2011 barley wine.

The brewery is a great place, I will agree.  The beer is just okay though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on July 16, 2012, 10:05:20 AM
I agree and that's why we hadn't been there in a few years. I hope as they bring more brewing inhouse that the product improves.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on July 16, 2012, 11:35:13 AM
The brewery is a great place, I will agree.  The beer is just okay though.

Their beer sucks. I would rather stay sober than drink it - even if it's free. It's the worst beer I have almost ever had - I would rather drink Camo Ice. Also, the whole premise and marketing scheme is a disgrace and beyond stupid.

The physical bar is nice to play vball at however they refuse to hire enough waitstaff to ever work their.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on July 16, 2012, 01:06:27 PM
Their beer sucks. I would rather stay sober than drink it - even if it's free. It's the worst beer I have almost ever had - I would rather drink Camo Ice. Also, the whole premise and marketing scheme is a disgrace and beyond stupid.

The physical bar is nice to play vball at however they refuse to hire enough waitstaff to ever work their.

IDK, there were waitbabes everywhere you looked yesterday - now we were seated at the bar, table service might have been slower but that's one of the reasons we like to 'belly-up'
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on July 16, 2012, 01:39:25 PM
Their beer sucks. I would rather stay sober than drink it - even if it's free. It's the worst beer I have almost ever had - I would rather drink Camo Ice.


I concur.  Except I've never had Camo Ice. 
The beer is just awful. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on July 16, 2012, 03:19:02 PM
I concur.  Except I've never had Camo Ice. 
The beer is just awful. 

+1,000,000 Awful is a complement IMHO.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on July 26, 2012, 05:20:59 PM
First time in Benelux.  Their menu of beer is too long. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on July 26, 2012, 10:46:01 PM
Heading to the Milwaukee Brewfest on Saturday... anyone been there? Any tips/things I should know?

In the meantime... I sampled a few recently-

Hinterland Saison- Pretty decent saison, nice spice notes. Pretty easy drinker.

Hinterland Whiteout- Didn't care for it... Double IPA with not enough of the citrus notes.

Boulevard Boss Tom's Golden Bock- Solid spring beer. Smooth, with just enough hops and a kiss of sweetness at the end.

O'so Spike's- Interesting beer. It's either a thin bock or an amber brewed with maple. That flavor added a nice subtle sweetness, without making you think you're drinking maple syrup.

Capital Weizen- Their summer seasonal this year. Did a nice job with it. Actually prefer it to Wisconsinite.

Milwaukee Brewing O-Gii- Fascinating beer. It's an imperial wit brewed with local tea. High alcohol, but hidden very well. I really liked it.

Milwaukee Brewing Black Iron- Their take on a black IPA. Heavier on the roasted notes than others I've had in the style. Hops were there, but not overpowering.

Milwaukee Brewing Outboard- Nice cream ale. Nothing spectacular, but a good summer beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU7703 on July 26, 2012, 11:28:58 PM
Heading to the Milwaukee Brewfest on Saturday... anyone been there? Any tips/things I should know?

Get there early because you will have to wait a long time in line to get in.  Last year, I waited in line for an hour or so before we got in.  Very frustrating.  After that, it was a good time with plenty of great beers on hand.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on July 27, 2012, 09:43:17 AM
First time in Benelux.  Their menu of beer is too long. 

Have you been to Centraal or Hollander? Is the menu that much different?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on July 27, 2012, 03:09:57 PM
No.  Live in Florida, and first time back in Mke in 4 yrs.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on July 28, 2012, 08:23:04 PM
Im currently enjoying a Sierra Nevada Bigfoot Barleywine, wowsa!

Never been one to drink barleywines...at all, but I recommend this one. Better suited for the winter
time given its alcohol content and body.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 04, 2012, 09:09:44 AM
Was in KC last week and had a glass of Tank 7 from Boulevard Brewery.  Nummy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on August 04, 2012, 09:59:41 AM
Here is a quick look at some of what we are bringing to Great Taste next weekend in Madison....

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/muspe02/BlendingClasses.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on August 08, 2012, 07:45:28 AM
Anyone going to the Great Taste this weekend in the Peoples Republic?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mugrad2006 on August 08, 2012, 08:43:28 AM
Have you been to Centraal or Hollander? Is the menu that much different?

It's pretty much the same at all three places, given the times I've been there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 08, 2012, 10:14:57 AM
I know it isn't beer, but if you can get your hands on some Zombie Killer, you should.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 10, 2012, 01:11:36 PM
Anyone going to the Great Taste this weekend in the Peoples Republic?

I will be there tomorrow!  Just snuck a ticket off my friend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 12, 2012, 10:21:39 AM
Well the beer was great.  I had some of the Darklord aged in Cognac barrels, a KBS, and a King Henry.

And also, I have a hangover.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: karavotsos on September 07, 2012, 11:10:14 PM
Has anyone seen the Lagunitas Daytime Fractional IPA in Milwaukee yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 08, 2012, 09:48:38 AM
I'll be at the Thirsty Troll Brewfest today in Mt Horeb WI... anyone else going?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 13, 2012, 10:18:47 AM
Thought I would post this link...big release day for us: Goose Island Bourbon County Stout released today http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/food/stew/chi-goose-island-312-20120911,0,941586.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/food/stew/chi-goose-island-312-20120911,0,941586.story)

For Milwaukee, call the usual suspects for distribution methods (Ray's, Discount, Three Cellars, etc.).
Chicago, it should be everywhere.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 13, 2012, 04:12:21 PM
Madison area?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 13, 2012, 04:33:31 PM
Madison area?

Pretty sure they will get some I just don't know the stores yet. Might want to call your favorite craft beer joint to see if they got some.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on September 14, 2012, 07:46:56 AM
For any New York City / Fairfield Co. alums.  Harbor Yard is two blocks from the Bridgeport train station.

http://www.harborbrewfest.com/festival-info/

About the Harbor Brew Fest
The Harbor Light Foundation has planned an unforgettable beer festival for all of our attendees. Please join us Saturday, September 22, 2012 from 12pm – 5pm in the ball park at Harbor Yard for Fairfield County’s first beer festival. The event will tap off with a limited attendance Brewers Special from 12pm – 1pm. General Admission will begin at 1pm and we will pour until 5pm. General Admission ($35 per ticket) will get you an unforgettable day of beer tasting, great music from talented local bands, delicious food from CT’s favorite food trucks and a fun-filled day to enjoy with friends. Brewer’s Special ($50 per ticket) includes all of the above plus samples of reserve & specialty brews from participating breweries an hour before general admission.  A portion of the proceeds from the event will benefit the Harbor Light Foundation
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mueagle84 on September 20, 2012, 08:08:51 PM
Have any of you taken a stroll to the Milwaukee Brewing Company?  I highly reccomend you visiting this hidden gem in Milwaukee.  I visited there several weeks ago and definitely got more than a $7 buck tour.  In my opinion, it's better than Lake Front.  Support your local brewery!

Check out these brewery tours
-Anchor Steam Brewery - San Francisco, CA.  Make sure you get your reservation a couple months in advance.  Great tour/tasting.  Unique story behind the history of their beer.
-Sam Adams Brewery - Boston, MA.  Short tour, however, great tasting afterwards.  Pitchers of beer.  Even better when kids are on tour = more beer for adults.
-Harpoon Brewery - Boston, MA.  Just went to the tasting.  It was ok.  Kind of snooty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on September 20, 2012, 09:13:58 PM
Big fan of the MKE Brewing Co. tour. Their goal is to get you drunk, and they aren't ashamed to admit it. Plus the beers are pretty good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on September 20, 2012, 09:30:50 PM
My apologies if I've told this story already.....

Speaking of great brewery tours.

Back in 1980something, the then future Mrs. Chili and I are visiting an old 10 south Schroeder pal, and his UWM bride.  Sh1tty weekend, raining. My pal,  the dearly departed Greg Raffensperger suggests we go to this new brewery in Milwaukee, Sprecher.

We pay the $1.50 for the tour.  Tour takes about 30 min.  Tour guide pours us a few brews.  Then he says "I gotta leave, someone at the brewery is getting married.  Here's how you work the taps."

Sooooo, two hours later, an employee says "folks, I gotta head home in a while.  Have a few more, and let's think about heading out.".

About an hour later, we left.... On to Zur Krones for a boot.

That was a good day.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 21, 2012, 08:48:41 AM
Pretty sure they will get some I just don't know the stores yet. Might want to call your favorite craft beer joint to see if they got some.

Well, I've been searching for about two weeks now, and nothing in the Madison area yet.  I shall not give up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on September 21, 2012, 09:55:07 AM
Quote
Well, I've been searching for about two weeks now, and nothing in the Madison area yet.  I shall not give up.

  Bought the Bourbon County Stout at Binny's in the suburbs of Chicago, could not get it downtown. Great beer, flavor explosion and will knock you on your ass. Every bit of 15%.

  Went to Hopleaf last night for a couple brewskis. Metropolitan Oktoberfest disappointing, actually overall I find there beers to be dissapointing. Given that it was on tap and the brewery is around the corner from Hopleaf makes it moreso. Belgium beer Dekoninck very good highly recommend.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on September 21, 2012, 10:53:25 AM
my buds & I used to tour the original Sprecher brewery several times a year just because it was like that, now days, their beer pretty much sucks and that warehouse they call a brewery has no character/charm

remember buying Sprecher when it only came in 1 liter flip-top bottles with a deposit?



My apologies if I've told this story already.....

Speaking of great brewery tours.

Back in 1980something, the then future Mrs. Chili and I are visiting an old 10 south Schroeder pal, and his UWM bride.  Sh1tty weekend, raining. My pal,  the dearly departed Greg Raffensperger suggests we go to this new brewery in Milwaukee, Sprecher.

We pay the $1.50 for the tour.  Tour takes about 30 min.  Tour guide pours us a few brews.  Then he says "I gotta leave, someone at the brewery is getting married.  Here's how you work the taps."

Sooooo, two hours later, an employee says "folks, I gotta head home in a while.  Have a few more, and let's think about heading out.".

About an hour later, we left.... On to Zur Krones for a boot.

That was a good day.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on September 21, 2012, 10:58:42 AM
I tried a bottle of Nebraska Brewing Black Betty, a bourbon barrel aged Imperial stout, OK but really about the same as a BCS or KBS and not worth the $20 they charge for the champagne size bottle

Got on a waiting list at Woodmans in Oak Creek for the BCS, so far it doesn't look like it's hit the stores in Milwaukee.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 21, 2012, 03:46:22 PM
  Bought the Bourbon County Stout at Binny's in the suburbs of Chicago, could not get it downtown. Great beer, flavor explosion and will knock you on your ass. Every bit of 15%.

  Went to Hopleaf last night for a couple brewskis. Metropolitan Oktoberfest disappointing, actually overall I find there beers to be dissapointing. Given that it was on tap and the brewery is around the corner from Hopleaf makes it moreso. Belgium beer Dekoninck very good highly recommend.

I got Breakfast Stout as my backup so I will be just fine.... Also picked up some Autumn Maple from the Bruery... I figured I may as well give it a shot.  Got the wife some NG Enigma as she is a sour beer fan.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on September 27, 2012, 11:15:56 AM
Consumer Beverage got 8 cases of Bourbon County yesterday, still had 3 left when I got mine last night.

Rays said they have it and will put it out on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on September 27, 2012, 11:35:08 AM
. Belgium beer Dekoninck very good highly recommend.


This was one of my favorites while going to school in Belgium.  Have had a very hard time finding it in the states.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 27, 2012, 05:55:01 PM
Locked up some Bourbon County by getting on a list in Madison.  Very excite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 27, 2012, 06:50:33 PM
Looks like BCBS is all over Milwaukee right now - and for prices far lower than Chicago (even before tax). Let me know what you all think. Personally, I think it's great right now. Just a tad hot but at 15% it's fantastic.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: TheButlerDidIt on October 22, 2012, 02:33:30 PM
Looks like BCBS is all over Milwaukee right now - and for prices far lower than Chicago (even before tax). Let me know what you all think. Personally, I think it's great right now. Just a tad hot but at 15% it's fantastic.

I had it on tap at Erv's Mug right when the barrels were distributed. It is/was hot, but such a great beer. I managed to secure a single bottle so I'll sit on that.

I was at Everett's in South Beloit last Wednesday and the buyer there told me that people in Milwaukee were following beer trucks, waiting for the delivery to be made, and rushing inside to buy their alotments.

I know the beer is fantastic, but it's crazy that people stalk beer trucks.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on October 23, 2012, 10:00:34 AM
I had it on tap at Erv's Mug right when the barrels were distributed. It is/was hot, but such a great beer. I managed to secure a single bottle so I'll sit on that.

I was at Everett's in South Beloit last Wednesday and the buyer there told me that people in Milwaukee were following beer trucks, waiting for the delivery to be made, and rushing inside to buy their alotments.

I know the beer is fantastic, but it's crazy that people stalk beer trucks.

The truck chasing happens in Chicago every year except this year we made enough so you can still find it stores. Part of it how much you can get in trade for BCBS but it's still the best bourbon barrel aged stout on the market. (I have held this opinion even before I worked for GI).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on October 23, 2012, 02:36:05 PM
Central Waters finally responded to my June email last week, had given them up for dead. They said they will contact me when the 2013 batch is released in January about getting a free case of that batch and I can drink the rst of the 2012, good because my buds and I already drank half of it.

After scoring over a case of the 2012 Central Waters Peruvian Morning I was disapointed to read this today on their website
The 2011 batch was soo good, I drank one of the 2012 bottles so far and it was a bit 'off' but I hoped aging it some would help, guess it won't, waiting to see how CW replies to my email.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on November 20, 2012, 04:25:36 PM
My apologies if I've told this story already.....

Speaking of great brewery tours.

Back in 1980something, the then future Mrs. Chili and I are visiting an old 10 south Schroeder pal, and his UWM bride.  Sh1tty weekend, raining. My pal,  the dearly departed Greg Raffensperger suggests we go to this new brewery in Milwaukee, Sprecher.

We pay the $1.50 for the tour.  Tour takes about 30 min.  Tour guide pours us a few brews.  Then he says "I gotta leave, someone at the brewery is getting married.  Here's how you work the taps."

Sooooo, two hours later, an employee says "folks, I gotta head home in a while.  Have a few more, and let's think about heading out.".

About an hour later, we left.... On to Zur Krones for a boot.

That was a good day.  ;D

Never get enough of stories like that - thanks!

Had a Krankshaft at Pinstripes last night. Very enjoyable though seems more of a summer beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 20, 2012, 04:33:59 PM
Founder's Boltcutter.   I had the one and only bottle I am likely to get my hands on.   Unbelievably good.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on November 20, 2012, 06:05:50 PM
this is a great idea: http://blackfridaybeer.com/

http://blackfridaybeer.com/uploads/3/1/6/8/3168628/472252_orig.jpg
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 20, 2012, 08:09:30 PM
this is a great idea: http://blackfridaybeer.com/

http://blackfridaybeer.com/uploads/3/1/6/8/3168628/472252_orig.jpg

We are doing this for the third year in a row at Binny's in Lincoln Park with a special launch. 1st year was Bourbon County Brand Stout Rare, last year was King Henry and this year is Bourbon County Brand Cherry Rye Stout and Bourbon County Brand Coffee Stout. Might as well kickoff big imperial black stouts on Black Friday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 21, 2012, 07:47:30 AM
Founder's Boltcutter.   I had the one and only bottle I am likely to get my hands on.   Unbelievably good.   

I has one of these bottles as well... cost me a pretty penny, but I got one.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on December 03, 2012, 10:53:27 PM
About time I put a summer/fall's worth of tasting notes in, aina?

O'so Third Wheel- Kinda earthy and floral, a wheat beer they called a Belgian. Wasn't terribly impressed with it.

New Holland White Hatter- A cross between a witbier and a pale ale. Nice citrus hops meshed well with the Belgian style spice. Not as good as Bedlam, but a good beer.

Sixpoint Resin- Big, hoppy double IPA. It was pretty run of the mill.

Southern Tier 2X Milk Stout- Fantastic beer. Everything you want from the style, in perfect balance. At 7.5%, it’s the perfect strength. Not too thin, but you can have more than one.

Southern Tier Harvest- My favorite beer of the fall. Malty, sweet, a touch of fruit, and more than enough hops. Wish I would have stocked up.

Southern Tier Crème Brulee Stout- Had it on tap with dessert one night. Loved the caramel and vanilla notes, nice warmth from the alcohol. Fun beer.

Milwaukee Brewing Weekend at Louie’s- An amber infused with blueberry and tea. It was interesting, a bit on the sweet side for my tastes. Aroma was fantastic.

Milwaukee Brewing Louie's Resurrection- Louie’s Demise aged in bourbon barrels. This was really well done. The malt stands up well, and that sweetness with the bourbon flavor is delicious.

Lake Louie Kiss the Lips- They broke away from the American IPA trend with this one. Not as aggressively hopped, nice citrus flavor and aroma. Decent beer.

Finch's Golden Wing- Wasn’t crazy about this one at all. There was a bitter, grassy flavor to it that I didn’t care for.

New Glarus Hometown Blonde- Another version of a pilsner, and I think this was far better than Two Women. It was near perfect for the style.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on December 03, 2012, 10:54:13 PM
New Belgium Red Hoptober- A hoppy red. Reminded me a bit of Fixed Gear, very solid brew.

Titletown Dark Helmet- First beer of theirs I’ve tried, and it was alright. Good schwarzbier, I dig a Kostritzer more though.

Bruery Autumn Maple- Either I got a bad glass, or the description of it was way off. I was expecting some sweet, spicy, vanilla notes. But there was a tartness that was overwhelming. Disappointing.

Kentucky Bourbon Ale- Had this on tap. Heavy bourbon flavor, thinner body than the Louie’s Resurrection. A nice sipper.

Lakefront Luther- A smoked rauchbier. Not sure it’s my style. It wasn’t bad, and the smoke wasn’t overpowering. Would be great with some BBQ/

Sun King Osiris- That growler didn’t last long. The ultimate session pale ale. Assertive hops, but very clean. Little lingering bitterness. Great beer.

Sun King Angle Juice- A touch hoppier than Osiris, this drinks more like an IPA than a pale ale. Not bad, though.

Atwater Vanilla Java Porter- Loved the idea of this beer, but the execution was lacking. Far too thin and watery for me.

Victory Festbier- A well made Marzen, in the top third of American Octoberfests.

New Glarus Serendipity- Their latest fruit beer. Crisp, tart, and a little sweet. Brewed with apples, cranberries, and cherries, then aged in oak. Each component can be picked out, but they all work together.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 03, 2012, 11:02:37 PM
I just had Lakefront Luther this past weekend. Wow, what an awesome Rauchbier. It is spot on to style and really great. Probably the best Lakefront beer I have ever had. Tasted like bacon in a bottle.

Also went to the MKE Brewery Tour. One thing for sure, they need to clean their lines at the brewery. Every beer has diacetyl in them.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on December 03, 2012, 11:10:52 PM
Also went to the MKE Brewery Tour. One thing for sure, they need to clean their lines at the brewery. Every beer has diacetyl in them.

That's disappointing. I have to wonder if they aren't quite prepared for how popular their tour has become.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 04, 2012, 09:34:15 AM
New Belgium Red Hoptober- A hoppy red. Reminded me a bit of Fixed Gear, very solid brew.

Titletown Dark Helmet- First beer of theirs I’ve tried, and it was alright. Good schwarzbier, I dig a Kostritzer more though.

Bruery Autumn Maple- Either I got a bad glass, or the description of it was way off. I was expecting some sweet, spicy, vanilla notes. But there was a tartness that was overwhelming. Disappointing.

Kentucky Bourbon Ale- Had this on tap. Heavy bourbon flavor, thinner body than the Louie’s Resurrection. A nice sipper.

Lakefront Luther- A smoked rauchbier. Not sure it’s my style. It wasn’t bad, and the smoke wasn’t overpowering. Would be great with some BBQ/

Sun King Osiris- That growler didn’t last long. The ultimate session pale ale. Assertive hops, but very clean. Little lingering bitterness. Great beer.

Sun King Angle Juice- A touch hoppier than Osiris, this drinks more like an IPA than a pale ale. Not bad, though.

Atwater Vanilla Java Porter- Loved the idea of this beer, but the execution was lacking. Far too thin and watery for me.

Victory Festbier- A well made Marzen, in the top third of American Octoberfests.

New Glarus Serendipity- Their latest fruit beer. Crisp, tart, and a little sweet. Brewed with apples, cranberries, and cherries, then aged in oak. Each component can be picked out, but they all work together.


You probably got a bad glass, but the yams add some sweetness to it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on December 04, 2012, 10:44:20 AM

Also went to the MKE Brewery Tour. One thing for sure, they need to clean their lines at the brewery. Every beer has diacetyl in them.


It still amazes me how often it is that I go to a high-end restaurant, bar, taproom, etc. and can detect lacto or diacetyl in their tap lines.  I especially enjoy when I don't order a sour and get something pulled from a line through which brett once flowed.

Illinois requires tap lines be cleaned once a week; I believe Wisconsin is once every two weeks.  I've been to places in both states where I'd swear they weren't cleaned in a year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on December 04, 2012, 11:00:04 AM
It still amazes me how often it is that I go to a high-end restaurant, bar, taproom, etc. and can detect lacto or diacetyl in their tap lines.  I especially enjoy when I don't order a sour and get something pulled from a line through which brett once flowed.

Illinois requires tap lines be cleaned once a week; I believe Wisconsin is once every two weeks.  I've been to places in both states where I'd swear they weren't cleaned in a year.

I know a bar in Illinois that has likely never cleaned them. Never good when everything tastes like Beast Ice.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 04, 2012, 12:50:11 PM
It still amazes me how often it is that I go to a high-end restaurant, bar, taproom, etc. and can detect lacto or diacetyl in their tap lines.  I especially enjoy when I don't order a sour and get something pulled from a line through which brett once flowed.

Illinois requires tap lines be cleaned once a week; I believe Wisconsin is once every two weeks.  I've been to places in both states where I'd swear they weren't cleaned in a year.

Well cleaning is a very subjective practice that not everyone does correctly with a caustic solution every time and acid every few cleanings to get the rest. Some just use a regular cleaner and run it through and don't do it long enough. Butter beer is my least favorite flavor and one I am very susceptible to. And much of this isn't the bars fault, they trust their cleaning company who probably is short changing them.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 05, 2012, 09:17:45 AM
Happy 79th Birthday 21st Amendment!!!!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 06, 2012, 07:16:52 AM
Happy 79th Birthday 21st Amendment!!!!!

I think there's a bar in Washington D.C. called The 21st Amendment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 06, 2012, 09:38:10 AM
I think there's a bar in Washington D.C. called The 21st Amendment.


Could be. It's also the name of a chain of liquor stores in Indiana and the law that repealed the 18th Amendment.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: TheButlerDidIt on December 06, 2012, 12:45:11 PM
Has anyone had the Lakefront Black Friday black IPA?

It's supposed to be fantastic, but now unavailable/very hard to get.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on December 06, 2012, 01:06:47 PM
Has anyone had the Lakefront Black Friday black IPA?

It's supposed to be fantastic, but now unavailable/very hard to get.

Heard good things as well, but I was too lazy to stand in line for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on December 06, 2012, 04:35:14 PM

Could be. It's also the name of a chain of liquor stores in Indiana and the law that repealed the 18th Amendment.

Someone confirm a rumor I heard but never bothered to check into... the 21st Amendments in Indy are still state-owned or operated?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: reinko on December 07, 2012, 07:33:14 AM
I think there's a bar in Washington D.C. called The 21st Amendment.

We got one in Boston.

http://www.21stboston.com/

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 07, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
I had a bottle and was disappointed, I was actually glad I didn't have the opportunity to buy more.

I couldn't even tell that it was 10%ABV, the only flavor I got was the cascade hops, nothing else really broke through the hop flavor IMO. It was good but not $10/bottle good.

Has anyone had the Lakefront Black Friday black IPA?

It's supposed to be fantastic, but now unavailable/very hard to get.
Title: 9 beers
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 09, 2012, 11:03:00 PM
9 beers we no longer drink in America


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/nine-beers-americans-no-longer-drink-183045945.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on December 24, 2012, 09:33:20 PM
What is everyone drinking tonight and tomorrow?

So far I have had the following or is in the hopper:

New Glarus Apple Ale
New Glarus Enigma
Goose Island Matilda
Goose Island Christmas Ale

And then some experimental Goose Island beers...

Tomorrow I have a GI Juliet and GI BCBS Coffee as well as some Surly Coffee Bender on tap along with the regular Goose beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 25, 2012, 09:53:12 AM
What is everyone drinking tonight and tomorrow?

So far I have had the following or is in the hopper:

New Glarus Apple Ale
New Glarus Enigma
Goose Island Matilda
Goose Island Christmas Ale

And then some experimental Goose Island beers...

Tomorrow I have a GI Juliet and GI BCBS Coffee as well as some Surly Coffee Bender on tap along with the regular Goose beers.

I cracked the Founder's Bolt Cutter with the old man.  It was strong.  But the warmer it got, the better it tasted.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU31 on December 25, 2012, 11:18:32 AM
Started with 3 Floyd's Zombie Dust, then Leinies Big Eddy Imperial IPA, Founders Breakfast Stout, but then switched gears as we were planning to go to mass a little later.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: akmarq on December 25, 2012, 11:57:38 PM
I'm back home in Alaska so I went with a trifecta of local stuff:

Midnight Sun Sockeye Red IPA
Midnight Sun Soliel Belgian Pale Ale
Broken Tooth Midtown Brown

Finished with some of the stout I brewed for pops.

Is anyone here on Untappd? I'd love you to add you guys. my user name is grizz_wald.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 28, 2012, 07:53:26 AM
I tried Three Floyds Zombie Dust on tap at Romans last night, I'm not great at describing what I tasted but I really loved the spicy hop flavors (Citra?) but after drinking a bit it seemed sort of thin and lackiing other than the hop taste.

After that I treid the O'so bourbon barrel aged Night Train, first I absolutely love the normal NT especially on nitro, well I think bourbon does for beer what bacon does for food = it improves everything, this beer was great, funny that I never heard of this one before.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on December 31, 2012, 05:14:36 PM

drowned the packer loss with Central Waters Bourbon Barrel Stout reserve series - awesome beer, possibly my new favorite or in top 5...

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on January 01, 2013, 11:39:06 PM
Three Floyds Alpha Claus X-mas Porter was outstanding as well....
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on January 02, 2013, 05:21:50 PM
I tried Three Floyds Zombie Dust on tap at Romans last night, I'm not great at describing what I tasted but I really loved the spicy hop flavors (Citra?) but after drinking a bit it seemed sort of thin and lackiing other than the hop taste.


Zombie Dust is a single-hop - lots of Citra and only Citra - and you've just experienced a single hop brew the same way many others have... as either good, great or awful, and sometimes it all three depending on how much you've drank.  The unscientific rationale in homebrew circles is that if your taste buds become accustomed to one dominant taste/flavor/aroma (in this case, the Citra) in a beer, you can be desensitized to that taste after a few "samples" and be left with a very bland background of fermented malt water (which you described as "thin and lacking").

Trying to get my hands on a contract for few pounds of Amarillo, Mosaic and Citra (2013 grow season).  Incidentally, Zombie Dust is one of the beers I've been wanting to clone, but I thought I might add another hop variety (hopback or dryhop) to give it some "complexity" so it doesn't get tired after 3 or 4 mugs.  It's a great beer to sample and share... not so great as a sixer during an MU road game (for reasons mentioned about).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on January 03, 2013, 10:10:29 AM
^ Thanks for the explanation, I know what I like when consuming it but not always the 'why' I like/dislike something
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 03, 2013, 06:17:41 PM
Well, I just managed to homebrew 5 gallons of vinegar.  At least I know how to keg my 'beer' now.  :-\
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 03, 2013, 07:41:25 PM
Well, I just managed to homebrew 5 gallons of vinegar.  At least I know how to keg my 'beer' now.  :-\

What were you trying to make? Did you introduce Aceto or infection?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 04, 2013, 09:24:24 AM
What were you trying to make? Did you introduce Aceto or infection?

A simple brown ale.  It was my first go at kegging my own so I wanted something that I knew was easy.  Turned out that it was probably Aceto... which is a bummer.  But at least I managed to carbonate my vinegar... so... small success?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: akmarq on January 04, 2013, 09:57:35 AM
A simple brown ale.  It was my first go at kegging my own so I wanted something that I knew was easy.  Turned out that it was probably Aceto... which is a bummer.  But at least I managed to carbonate my vinegar... so... small success?

What a shame...sounds like you'll have to brew again this weekend
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on January 04, 2013, 10:19:49 AM
Tried Lakefront's 25th Anniversary Imperial Stout. Really enjoyed it. Well balanced, good flavor, and smooth for a 10% beer.

Also had MKE Brewing's Anodyne Coffee Brown. Solid beer, the coffee adds some depth to the standard brown ale. If they bottled it, I'd buy it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on January 04, 2013, 01:27:57 PM
A simple brown ale.  It was my first go at kegging my own so I wanted something that I knew was easy.  Turned out that it was probably Aceto... which is a bummer.  But at least I managed to carbonate my vinegar... so... small success?

Out of curiosity... what type of keg and where did you get it from?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 04, 2013, 01:50:11 PM
Out of curiosity... what type of keg and where did you get it from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_keg

Corny keg.  Brand new for xmas last year, unsure where my wife got it from... totally unused though.  I've been slacking and didn't make a new batch of beer until early November this year... had to drink up the reserves and then there were some nice seasonals to try.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on January 04, 2013, 02:10:14 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_keg

Corny keg.  Brand new for xmas last year, unsure where my wife got it from... totally unused though.  I've been slacking and didn't make a new batch of beer until early November this year... had to drink up the reserves and then there were some nice seasonals to try.

Yep... got a dozen or so of those in my basement... many years ago I had occasional contamination problems with cornies until I learned to properly (and completely) disassemble/clean/sanitize the things.  But yours was brand new, so you got a mystery on your hands.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 04, 2013, 02:58:36 PM
Yep... got a dozen or so of those in my basement... many years ago I had occasional contamination problems with cornies until I learned to properly (and completely) disassemble/clean/sanitize the things.  But yours was brand new, so you got a mystery on your hands.

I'm quite sure that the problem was my carboy and not the keg.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on January 07, 2013, 04:33:37 PM

Sorry for threadjacking this into a homebrew discussion, but the title doesn't say where you had to get the beer.  The OP simply said good beer deserves its own discussion.


Ever since I overpurchased a few pounds of chocolate malt a few months ago, I've been experimenting with how dark I can make a (palatable) beer.  I've gotten up to two pounds in a double-chocolate imperial I made last year, but the latest batch I only used one pound (all 5-gal batches, by the way, for those of you keeping score at home).  I'm going to try breaking the 3-lb. barrier in a few weeks, but I need some inspiration... so my query:

What was the darkest beer you have ever had, and what do you remember about it?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: mubb34 on January 07, 2013, 04:34:54 PM
Sweaty Betty - Colorado Micro-Brew...Yum
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on January 07, 2013, 09:31:01 PM

Sorry for threadjacking this into a homebrew discussion, but the title doesn't say where you had to get the beer.  The OP simply said good beer deserves its own discussion.


Hey, by all means, talk away.

As someone who doesn't have the room (and likely the patience) for homebrewing, I find this interesting.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 08, 2013, 06:57:24 AM
Hey, by all means, talk away.

As someone who doesn't have the room (and likely the patience) for homebrewing, I find this interesting.

If you have room for two 5 gallon pails and a few cases of bottles you have room to homebrew!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on January 08, 2013, 10:05:22 AM
I currently have five 5 gallon batches lagering in the cellar  ;D

I only do partial mashes, trying to keep it simple so 3 lbs. of any malts is too much for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: TheButlerDidIt on January 10, 2013, 03:49:39 PM
So, as I'm sure many of you know, the Bradley Center has a craft beer bar on the second level. I think it's called the Tap Room. It serves your typical solid crafts (Sierra Nevada PA, Ale Asylum Hopalicious, Lakefront Fixed Gear), your big beer "crafts" (Blue Moon/Shock Top/Leiney Stuff), and your English/Irish imports.

Aside from beer on tap, there's also bottled beer. More of the same usual, but solid craft beers/big beer alternatives/usual imports.

A few weeks ago, something caught my eye-The Tap Room sells bottles of Leiney's Big Eddy Russian Imperial Stout. I don't think I've had a better stadium/arena beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on January 10, 2013, 08:27:38 PM
Hard to pass up Ale Asylum Hopalicious on tap....


So, as I'm sure many of you know, the Bradley Center has a craft beer bar on the second level. I think it's called the Tap Room. It serves your typical solid crafts (Sierra Nevada PA, Ale Asylum Hopalicious, Lakefront Fixed Gear), your big beer "crafts" (Blue Moon/Shock Top/Leiney Stuff), and your English/Irish imports.

Aside from beer on tap, there's also bottled beer. More of the same usual, but solid craft beers/big beer alternatives/usual imports.

A few weeks ago, something caught my eye-The Tap Room sells bottles of Leiney's Big Eddy Russian Imperial Stout. I don't think I've had a better stadium/arena beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 11, 2013, 08:23:02 AM
Hard to pass up Ale Asylum Hopalicious on tap....



Try living 5 miles from the brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on January 11, 2013, 08:47:56 AM
Try living 5 miles from the brewery.

Since your close, does Ale Asylum sell kegs out of the brewery to the public?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 11, 2013, 08:54:18 AM
Since your close, does Ale Asylum sell kegs out of the brewery to the public?

I've never asked, but they are carried at many area liquor stores.  I had Hopalicious at my wedding 3 years ago.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on January 11, 2013, 08:58:13 AM
I've never asked, but they are carried at many area liquor stores.  I had Hopalicious at my wedding 3 years ago.

I'll send them an email.

That's one thing I wish breweries in Wisconsin did a little bit better on. Many of the Chicago guys have keg reservations, sucks to make a trip and come away either empty-handed or without the brew you were really looking for.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 11, 2013, 11:06:23 AM
I'll send them an email.

That's one thing I wish breweries in Wisconsin did a little bit better on. Many of the Chicago guys have keg reservations, sucks to make a trip and come away either empty-handed or without the brew you were really looking for.

Also, their old building (They just opened a new one late last year) was tiny, and now they can produce a ton more... I think what you're suggesting would be a great idea.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 11, 2013, 12:35:45 PM
Since your close, does Ale Asylum sell kegs out of the brewery to the public?

That would be against the law.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 11, 2013, 12:42:30 PM
That would be against the law.

Because of distributor rules?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 11, 2013, 01:28:56 PM
Because of distributor rules?

Lots of three tier rules. Also, brewers in WI can only do 2 of 3 things. 1) Make Beer 2) Sell beer to wholesalers 3) Sell draft beer to consumers (ie brewpubs). The licencing is all wonky. Since they are a production brewery they cannot sell beer directly to consumers - it must to go to a retailer (as I think they may still be small enough to self distribute but I do not know) or the most likely it must go to a wholesaler for sale.

These are all the laws that were put in place after prohibition and it is what we call the three tier system. Though WI mucks it up by not allowing brewpubs to have production licences under the same umbrella. That is why MKE Brewing Co. broke away from the Milwaukee Ale House group. They had to in order to get proper licencing.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 11, 2013, 02:47:11 PM
Lots of three tier rules. Also, brewers in WI can only do 2 of 3 things. 1) Make Beer 2) Sell beer to wholesalers 3) Sell draft beer to consumers (ie brewpubs). The licencing is all wonky. Since they are a production brewery they cannot sell beer directly to consumers - it must to go to a retailer (as I think they may still be small enough to self distribute but I do not know) or the most likely it must go to a wholesaler for sale.

These are all the laws that were put in place after prohibition and it is what we call the three tier system. Though WI mucks it up by not allowing brewpubs to have production licences under the same umbrella. That is why MKE Brewing Co. broke away from the Milwaukee Ale House group. They had to in order to get proper licencing.

So is there a size limit?  Obviously, a lot of brewpubs around here sell growlers of beer that you can take home... Is the law grey in that area?  Or is it fine because its treated as a draft serving?  What if the brewery were to try to subvert the law by dispensing a keg's worth?  These laws are all so strange.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on January 11, 2013, 03:05:57 PM
Lots of three tier rules. Also, brewers in WI can only do 2 of 3 things. 1) Make Beer 2) Sell beer to wholesalers 3) Sell draft beer to consumers (ie brewpubs). The licencing is all wonky. Since they are a production brewery they cannot sell beer directly to consumers - it must to go to a retailer (as I think they may still be small enough to self distribute but I do not know) or the most likely it must go to a wholesaler for sale.

These are all the laws that were put in place after prohibition and it is what we call the three tier system. Though WI mucks it up by not allowing brewpubs to have production licences under the same umbrella. That is why MKE Brewing Co. broke away from the Milwaukee Ale House group. They had to in order to get proper licencing.

In addition to Hards questions, how does Lakefront sell kegs after their tours? I'm assuming that WI laws are different from the IL laws as well then?

Also, I revisited MKE Brewing since their rebranding by getting a six-pack sampler at Woodman's and wow. I completely poured one beer, and was not pleased by the others except for Polish Moon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 11, 2013, 05:53:44 PM
Outside of all this there is a new brewpub that opened in Madison just before the new year... I want to go try it out badly.  It is located in the old Ale Asylum building... Karben4

http://www.madisonmagazine.com/Blogs/The-Chow-Down/January-2013/New-Brew-at-Karben4/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 12, 2013, 05:26:58 PM
Currently enjoying a bomber of Lakefront IBA... nothing special, but it is still enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on January 12, 2013, 05:42:30 PM
Currently enjoying a bomber of Lakefront IBA... nothing special, but it is still enjoyable.

It's decent.

It's no New Glarus Blacktop. That is a tasty IBA.

Have Fixed Gear in my new kegerator right now. Looking for another tall 1/4 barrel to accompany it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 12, 2013, 06:09:56 PM
It's decent.

It's no New Glarus Blacktop. That is a tasty IBA.

Have Fixed Gear in my new kegerator right now. Looking for another tall 1/4 barrel to accompany it.

oooo kegerator... I can't wait to move and have room for one.

Blacktop is great though, you're right.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on January 12, 2013, 06:20:49 PM
oooo kegerator... I can't wait to move and have room for one.

Blacktop is great though, you're right.

My recommendation is to build your own, if you're looking for some direction let me know. I just finished mine and I love it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on January 14, 2013, 12:56:47 PM
Hard to pass up Ale Asylum Hopalicious on tap....



Had my first one at the MU v. G'Town game.  Would have been reason enough to go.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on January 23, 2013, 05:37:28 PM
Probably real late, but I got New Glarus Blacktop and it was fantastic.

I've always shied away from New Glarus because I always thought Spotted Cow was really overhyped. That IBA was very, very good.

Currently enjoying Fixed Gear and Anti-Hero IPA in my kegerator.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 23, 2013, 06:19:32 PM
Probably real late, but I got New Glarus Blacktop and it was fantastic.

I've always shied away from New Glarus because I always thought Spotted Cow was really overhyped. That IBA was very, very good.

Currently enjoying Fixed Gear and Anti-Hero IPA in my kegerator.

NG is great... except for the every day stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 23, 2013, 07:00:31 PM
NG is great... except for the every day stuff.

Agree and disagree. I am not a fan of Spotted Cow or Fat Squirrel, but Moon Man is OUTSTANDING. As is their Thumbprint Series - almost all amazing. However, things like Belgian Red, Serendipity, Etc. are WAY WAY to sweet. Taste almost like cough syrup. Could really use souring bacteria to bring down the overpowering flavor.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on January 23, 2013, 07:48:02 PM
Agree and disagree. I am not a fan of Spotted Cow or Fat Squirrel, but Moon Man is OUTSTANDING. As is their Thumbprint Series - almost all amazing. However, things like Belgian Red, Serendipity, Etc. are WAY WAY to sweet. Taste almost like cough syrup. Could really use souring bacteria to bring down the overpowering flavor.

Chili,

Since I respect your opinion, what's you top 5 non-seasonal, non-speciality brews?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 24, 2013, 06:42:39 AM
Agree and disagree. I am not a fan of Spotted Cow or Fat Squirrel, but Moon Man is OUTSTANDING. As is their Thumbprint Series - almost all amazing. However, things like Belgian Red, Serendipity, Etc. are WAY WAY to sweet. Taste almost like cough syrup. Could really use souring bacteria to bring down the overpowering flavor.

I'll agree that Moon Man is great.  I actually really like Dancing man wheat as well... and I'm not a big wheat fan.  I have a bottle of Serendipity in the fridge I plan to drink tomorrow... Haven't had any yet.  The thumbprint stuff is what I was referring to as really good (they can keep the apple pie or whatever).  My wife is a huge fan of sour beer and of course is madly in love with Enigma.

As for the Red and Lambics etc... They are what they are.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on January 24, 2013, 10:31:42 AM
Agree and disagree. I am not a fan of Spotted Cow or Fat Squirrel, but Moon Man is OUTSTANDING. As is their Thumbprint Series - almost all amazing. However, things like Belgian Red, Serendipity, Etc. are WAY WAY to sweet. Taste almost like cough syrup. Could really use souring bacteria to bring down the overpowering flavor.

+1

One of my favorites
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 24, 2013, 11:13:13 AM
Chili,

Since I respect your opinion, what's you top 5 non-seasonal, non-speciality brews?

Firestone Walker DBA - Easily my favorite session beer and so happy it's now in full time distribution in Chicago
Tripel Karmeliet - Love this beer, though it will kick you square in the balls if you have to many
Maui CoCoNuT Porter - I really wish this was available in the Midwest, but I could have a ton of these a lot. If you're on the WC, bring some home in your suitcase.
Alchemist Heady Topper - Fantastic DIPA
Revolution Anti Hero - Great IPA which doesn't kill you.

Corporate Shill --- but I love these beers:
Goose Island Sofie - I could drink these all day. It just tastes that good. 
Goose Island IPA - It's perfectly balanced and you can have a few without your tongue getting destroyed.


Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: akmarq on January 24, 2013, 11:32:49 AM
Probably real late, but I got New Glarus Blacktop and it was fantastic.

I've always shied away from New Glarus because I always thought Spotted Cow was really overhyped. That IBA was very, very good.

Currently enjoying Fixed Gear and Anti-Hero IPA in my kegerator.

Treated myself to a "refresher" of Black Top on Tuesday - hadn't had it in at least two years and was again impressed with how well balanced it is.

If you're in to the Black IPA/Cascadian Dark Ale style I highly rec. the Alaskan Brewing Company Black IPA. It's their spring seasonal and is still my favorite beer in the category (maybe tied with Firestone's Wookey Jack)

Chili: I'm assuming you work for GI based on what I've read here? Did I hear correctly that BCBS is going year-round?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on January 24, 2013, 09:01:06 PM
Treated myself to a "refresher" of Black Top on Tuesday - hadn't had it in at least two years and was again impressed with how well balanced it is.

If you're in to the Black IPA/Cascadian Dark Ale style I highly rec. the Alaskan Brewing Company Black IPA. It's their spring seasonal and is still my favorite beer in the category (maybe tied with Firestone's Wookey Jack)

Chili: I'm assuming you work for GI based on what I've read here? Did I hear correctly that BCBS is going year-round?

I do. And that would be impossible right now. We require that BCBS spend at least 1 hot cycle and 1 cold cycle (seasons) in the barrels which is typically takes 9-11 months. We are almost at capacity right now in our bourbon warehouse so I don't think we could. Now in the future would we have say a spring and fall release of BCBS - possibly. But right now it's not really in the cards, as much as I know.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on January 24, 2013, 10:35:03 PM
I don't think I've ever picked up GI IPA, not sure why. Sofie is great and I often find myself drinking Green Line often when in the city, especially concerts at the Congress.

Used to enjoy 312 at Hagerty's but drank myself off it. Created a real good chili recipe using 312.

I haven't had a Night stalker in years, loved that at the time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: TheButlerDidIt on January 25, 2013, 12:00:28 PM
Hey Chili,

Is GI ever going to bottle the Imperial IPA, or will that always be tap only?

Maybe it is bottled and I just haven't seen any in the MKE area.

I've had plenty of taps/growlers-great beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU31 on January 25, 2013, 12:35:29 PM
Firestone Walker offerings just showed up in my local liquor store, I've only had the Wookey Jack so far, but it is very nice, I will be going back for more.  I have heard Two Brothers Imperial Stout is on tap nearby so I'm hoping to try that over the weekend, has anyone had that one?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: akmarq on January 25, 2013, 02:25:53 PM
I do. And that would be impossible right now. We require that BCBS spend at least 1 hot cycle and 1 cold cycle (seasons) in the barrels which is typically takes 9-11 months. We are almost at capacity right now in our bourbon warehouse so I don't think we could. Now in the future would we have say a spring and fall release of BCBS - possibly. But right now it's not really in the cards, as much as I know.

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. I think I heard the buzz on Beer Advocate and I take everything I read there with about one million grains of salt. Especially when it comes to anything about Goose Island.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: akmarq on January 28, 2013, 03:26:41 PM
Made the girlfriend open the bottle of Jolly Pumpkin Calabaza Blanca she bought yesterday (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/9897/19306) and was more than impressed.

After binging on stout and porter earlier in the winter (including a not so fabulous homebrew porter) I've been on a wit kick and this might be my favorite of the bunch. I think they have bottles of it at Ray's if anyones interested. Good orange-wheat sweetness while still tasting nice and bright.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gjreda on February 05, 2013, 03:51:37 PM
Agree and disagree. I am not a fan of Spotted Cow or Fat Squirrel, but Moon Man is OUTSTANDING. As is their Thumbprint Series - almost all amazing. However, things like Belgian Red, Serendipity, Etc. are WAY WAY to sweet. Taste almost like cough syrup. Could really use souring bacteria to bring down the overpowering flavor.

Moon Man is a go-to for me.  Every time I'm up for an MU game, stopping at Woodman's in Kenosha and picking up a case of Moon Man is a must.

I really wish they were still selling Engima right now too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on February 05, 2013, 04:37:29 PM
Moon Man is a go-to for me.  Every time I'm up for an MU game, stopping at Woodman's in Kenosha and picking up a case of Moon Man is a must.

I really wish they were still selling Engima right now too.

Do yourself a favor and get off at Drexel Avenue and go east two miles to the Oak Creek Woodman's.

Much better selection and not a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on February 10, 2013, 11:16:38 AM
It's decent.

It's no New Glarus Blacktop. That is a tasty IBA.

Have Fixed Gear in my new kegerator right now. Looking for another tall 1/4 barrel to accompany it.

PTM: Thanks to you and others for the Black Top recommendation. Tried it last night (insincere apology to my brother in law for drinking his last bottle).  Wow.  Just outstanding.   
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on February 15, 2013, 03:13:43 PM
Picked up a bottle of Dreadnaught last week. Cracked it open after a half day at work today, and wow.

I've been up and down on 3Floyds, but this thing lives up to it's reputation.

Not light on the bitter, but not overwhelming. It's a fruity hop explosion with I'm tasting peach, mango, orange, lemon.

A bit pricey, but well-worth it for an occasion.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: akmarq on February 26, 2013, 05:01:04 PM
Picked up a bottle of Dreadnaught last week. Cracked it open after a half day at work today, and wow.

I've been up and down on 3Floyds, but this thing lives up to it's reputation.

Not light on the bitter, but not overwhelming. It's a fruity hop explosion with I'm tasting peach, mango, orange, lemon.

A bit pricey, but well-worth it for an occasion.

I had Dreadnaught both bottled and on tap and didn't think it quite held up to some of 3 Floyd's other beers. I was a much bigger fan of the Rye da Tiger as I thought that Dreadnaught committed the one sin (in my mind) of IIPA - it was too sweet. I know that a lot of malt sweetness is somewhat to style in IIPA, but I thought Dreadnaught overdid it.

Then again, that's just like my opinion, man.

What other beers from FFF have you found good/lacking?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on February 26, 2013, 05:27:02 PM
I had Dreadnaught both bottled and on tap and didn't think it quite held up to some of 3 Floyd's other beers. I was a much bigger fan of the Rye da Tiger as I thought that Dreadnaught committed the one sin (in my mind) of IIPA - it was too sweet. I know that a lot of malt sweetness is somewhat to style in IIPA, but I thought Dreadnaught overdid it.

Then again, that's just like my opinion, man.

What other beers from FFF have you found good/lacking?

I think the Cheese Castle has a bottle of Rye da Tiger on their shelf, I was going to get it but they called my number for lunch.

Alpha King - Really, really good.
Robert the Bruce - Meh
Gumballhead - Overrated? I didn't think it was bad, but I think I was expecting more than I got.
Zombie Dust - Awesome

I've had a few bombers of others, having trouble recalling at this point.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on February 26, 2013, 06:13:52 PM
I think the Cheese Castle has a bottle of Rye da Tiger on their shelf, I was going to get it but they called my number for lunch.

Alpha King - Really, really good.
Robert the Bruce - Meh
Gumballhead - Overrated? I didn't think it was bad, but I think I was expecting more than I got.
Zombie Dust - Awesome

I've had a few bombers of others, having trouble recalling at this point.

Apocalypse Cow is awesome (DIPA with Lactose)
Arctic Panzer... Pretty good IPA.. but pretty boozy.
Rabid Rabbit... meh, but I don't really care for farmhouse ales.
Darklord... GLORIOUS
Moloko... I'm partial to milk stouts, but this one is damn good... really chewy
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on February 26, 2013, 10:01:40 PM
Apocalypse Cow is awesome (DIPA with Lactose)
Arctic Panzer... Pretty good IPA.. but pretty boozy.
Rabid Rabbit... meh, but I don't really care for farmhouse ales.
Darklord... GLORIOUS
Moloko... I'm partial to milk stouts, but this one is damn good... really chewy

Darklord sucks!!!! Most overrated beer in the world. Tastes like hot soy sauce. I am sorry but that beer is just hype and hot garbage. I have bottles I will trade for anything but no one will take them.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on February 27, 2013, 06:53:17 AM
Darklord sucks!!!! Most overrated beer in the world. Tastes like hot soy sauce. I am sorry but that beer is just hype and hot garbage. I have bottles I will trade for anything but no one will take them.


I will trade you.  Anything up here that you are interested in?  (Madison area)

And to be fair, I had Darklord aged in Cognac barrels.  I should have mentioned that above... and it was awesome.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: akmarq on February 27, 2013, 09:40:53 AM
I think the Cheese Castle has a bottle of Rye da Tiger on their shelf, I was going to get it but they called my number for lunch.

Alpha King - Really, really good.
Robert the Bruce - Meh
Gumballhead - Overrated? I didn't think it was bad, but I think I was expecting more than I got.
Zombie Dust - Awesome

I've had a few bombers of others, having trouble recalling at this point.

Agree mostly, though I love Robert the Bruce. Do you not like Scotch Ale or just that particular Scotch Ale?

I also have the Behemoth barley wine aging right now, I'm hoping that is as good as I think it might be.

Side note: I was lucky to get some tickets to Midwinter Brewfest at the Milwaukee Ale House two weekends ago. Leine's was there pouring some of their experimental beers; they had a ghost chili imperial porter that was GREAT. I've had a few chili beers before, and while I would never get a six pack of any of them, this one really had a lot of heat while still tasting like Porter.

Also got to try some 3 Sheeps (new brewery in Sheboygan) and reccomend people give them a look. Their black wheat Ale (Baaaaad Boy) is a cross-over beer like Spotted Cow but with some good roasted malt flavor. Not an award-winner by any means, but it's good to see a new brewery making a beer that might garner them some popularity.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on February 27, 2013, 09:48:18 AM
I will trade you.  Anything up here that you are interested in?  (Madison area)

And to be fair, I had Darklord aged in Cognac barrels.  I should have mentioned that above... and it was awesome.

I have had Vanilla Bean (which is pretty good), Brandy, Cognac and Pappy Van Winkle which were average at best. If you truly like Darklord you have to try other breweries which are doing a much better job.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: akmarq on February 27, 2013, 11:55:39 AM
I will trade you.  Anything up here that you are interested in?  (Madison area)

And to be fair, I had Darklord aged in Cognac barrels.  I should have mentioned that above... and it was awesome.

Have you had any of Karben 4's beer (I think that's their name). New to Madison - moved into the old Ale Asylum facility. I work with a friend of the owners and want to know how soon I should try to make it from MKE to Madison to check them out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on February 27, 2013, 01:29:42 PM
Have you had any of Karben 4's beer (I think that's their name). New to Madison - moved into the old Ale Asylum facility. I work with a friend of the owners and want to know how soon I should try to make it from MKE to Madison to check them out.

Yes, quite delicious.  I tried each of their beers one night.  Worth the trip, and while you are here you can stop buy House of Brews... very small tasting room, but it is something else to try while you are in town.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on February 27, 2013, 02:22:03 PM
Darklord sucks!!!! Most overrated beer in the world. Tastes like hot soy sauce. I am sorry but that beer is just hype and hot garbage. I have bottles I will trade for anything but no one will take them.


I'd like to try it, if you want something the Cheese Castle has a decent eceletic selection.

Agree mostly, though I love Robert the Bruce. Do you not like Scotch Ale or just that particular Scotch Ale?



I'm not a huge fan of Scots mostly, but I can tolerate them. Just wasn't blown away. Seemed overcarbonated and didn't appreciate that toffee taste.

Also got to try some 3 Sheeps (new brewery in Sheboygan) and reccomend people give them a look. Their black wheat Ale (Baaaaad Boy) is a cross-over beer like Spotted Cow but with some good roasted malt flavor. Not an award-winner by any means, but it's good to see a new brewery making a beer that might garner them some popularity.

I've heard hype around 3 Sheeps from some coworkers in that area. Don't they brew some liquor out of there as well? Do they have a Waterslide or Rollercoast beer? That's what the guys were talking about. Need to keep an eye out for them.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: akmarq on February 27, 2013, 03:03:34 PM

I've heard hype around 3 Sheeps from some coworkers in that area. Don't they brew some liquor out of there as well? Do they have a Waterslide or Rollercoast beer? That's what the guys were talking about. Need to keep an eye out for them.



Waterslide is their IPA. Not spectacular but a really solid offering for a new brewery.

If you're MKE based, there is a tasting of their beers at the Puddler's Hall beer club tonight (Bay View). $10 (I think) to try pretty much the whole line-up (and $1 off all beers the rest of the night + free popcorn and ping pong).

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU31 on February 27, 2013, 03:37:43 PM
I had Dreadnaught both bottled and on tap and didn't think it quite held up to some of 3 Floyd's other beers. I was a much bigger fan of the Rye da Tiger as I thought that Dreadnaught committed the one sin (in my mind) of IIPA - it was too sweet. I know that a lot of malt sweetness is somewhat to style in IIPA, but I thought Dreadnaught overdid it.

Then again, that's just like my opinion, man.

What other beers from FFF have you found good/lacking?


3Floyd favorites: Rye'da Tiger (or previously Rye'da Lightning), Zombie Dust, Alpha King, Dreadnaught.
Also very good: Arctic Panzer Wolf, Moloko, Alpha Klaus (seasonal), any other new hoppy creation they have on tap.
Not a big fan of: Robert the Bruce, Blackheart, Jinxproof, Gumballhead.  These are good beers, but I think there are better choices for the styles.
I'm in the camp of liking Darklord, but maybe not to up to the hype.
 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on February 28, 2013, 10:05:49 AM
I like Dreadnaught and must confess I like Alpha King from time to time. Zombie dust not so much in fact did a tasting of that and Hopslam about a week ago at Hooligans and without a doubt I prefe Hopslam. Never had the chance to try Darklord.

I like scottish ales but Robert the Bruce never did it for me, hell, I like Rock Bottom's Naughty Scot better. Try New Glarus Winter Warmer for a scottish ale, I'm liking that one too.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gjreda on February 28, 2013, 06:35:40 PM
I like Dreadnaught and must confess I like Alpha King from time to time. Zombie dust not so much in fact did a tasting of that and Hopslam about a week ago at Hooligans and without a doubt I prefe Hopslam. Never had the chance to try Darklord.

I like scottish ales but Robert the Bruce never did it for me, hell, I like Rock Bottom's Naughty Scot better. Try New Glarus Winter Warmer for a scottish ale, I'm liking that one too.

While I love Hopslam, that wasn't the most fair fight since they're different styles of beer - Zombie Dust being an APA while Hopslam is a DIPA.  Both are fantastic in their own different ways.

I recently had Hopslam and Pliny the Elder back to back and it was nearly impossible to taste the difference between the two since Hopslam really assaults your tastebuds.

And now it's time to grab a Hopslam from my fridge.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: TheButlerDidIt on March 01, 2013, 09:53:58 AM
We've always got Gumballhead in the fridge. That and NG Moon Man are my favorite sessions.

I think Dreadnaught is a fantastic beer and Alpha Klaus could be my favorite winter beer-cannot get enough of it.

I was lucky enough to get a bottle of Risgoop from a buddy who was traveling through. That was truly outstanding and I immediately wished I had another bottle.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on March 05, 2013, 05:04:17 PM

Also got to try some 3 Sheeps (new brewery in Sheboygan) and reccomend people give them a look. Their black wheat Ale (Baaaaad Boy) is a cross-over beer like Spotted Cow but with some good roasted malt flavor. Not an award-winner by any means, but it's good to see a new brewery making a beer that might garner them some popularity.

Dropped into Woodman's yesterday to pick up some essentials for the snow, so I got 6-pack of 3 Sheeps Really Cool Waterslides.

It's surprisingly good.

Like Anti-Hero it is an easy drinking IPA. Not a mouth torcher at all, but still gives nice flavors. Checks in at a light 6.2% for an IPA. Nice caramel flavors to start with a mid-range citrus mouthwash. Follows up with a bold pine bitter aftertaste.

I give it a 3.5/5. Will buy again, especially when mixing beers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: akmarq on March 06, 2013, 04:32:37 PM
Dropped into Woodman's yesterday to pick up some essentials for the snow, so I got 6-pack of 3 Sheeps Really Cool Waterslides.

It's surprisingly good.

Like Anti-Hero it is an easy drinking IPA. Not a mouth torcher at all, but still gives nice flavors. Checks in at a light 6.2% for an IPA. Nice caramel flavors to start with a mid-range citrus mouthwash. Follows up with a bold pine bitter aftertaste.

I give it a 3.5/5. Will buy again, especially when mixing beers.


This. I appreciated that it had a bit more bitter dryness to it then most IPAs in that ABV/price range. I feel like the trend in big IIPAs has led to maltier, sweeter IPAs across the board. I might have to start drinking more ESB to get more bitterness and less hop flavor on top of sweet malt.

AK Brewing Black IPA is still in stores. Still the only BIPA that takes down Black Top in my book.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on March 08, 2013, 07:12:25 PM
First Curmudgeon in a long time.  Forgot how delicious.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 11, 2013, 10:07:28 AM
I bought a 4 pack of Central Waters bourbon barrel barleywine only to find out the next day 1 bottle was 99% empty. The others tasted great IMO.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on March 21, 2013, 06:41:52 PM
I am enjoying the best beer that I have ever had.  In Beaufort, SC, drinking a Seeing Double IPA out of Foothills Brewery in Ashville, NC.  Might have somehting to do with the MU win.  Just might. I think the "Seeing Double" comes from watching Vander Blue close out again.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on March 22, 2013, 10:49:14 AM
Has anyone tried MKE's Hop Happy? 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on March 22, 2013, 10:50:47 AM
Has anyone tried MKE's Hop Happy? 

At the brewery several times.  Nothing crazy.  All of their beer is good, but not great.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 22, 2013, 11:09:34 AM
Has anyone tried MKE's Hop Happy? 

I prefer Lakefront's IPA to that. Hop Happy is alright, but there are better out there.

If you're looking for a hoppy session beer, try Founders All Day IPA. Really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on March 22, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
Anyone got their hands on some KBS yet?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on March 22, 2013, 06:51:36 PM
Anyone got their hands on some KBS yet?

Was at the brewery last week for work and they gave us a few bottles but told us to wait a few weeks before opening it. Should be hitting store shelves soon.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 23, 2013, 08:29:04 AM
Release is set for April (from their website)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: gjreda on March 23, 2013, 02:37:12 PM
Fischman's in Jefferson Park (Chicago) is having a KBS tapping 4/4: http://www.fischmanliquors.com/p/events.html
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on May 09, 2013, 08:52:11 AM
http://www.freep.com/article/20130508/ENT/305080168/Craft-brewing-boom-changes-Grand-Rapids-culture-economy

http://www.freep.com/article/20130509/ent1005/305090051/

If any of you guys are planning a pilgrimage, PM me.   We will toast MU together over GR's finest. 


I had my KBS for the year.   Strong.   Smooth.    You can taste the coffee, taste the chocolate, and feel the bourbon in your sinuses. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on May 09, 2013, 09:19:38 AM
http://www.freep.com/article/20130508/ENT/305080168/Craft-brewing-boom-changes-Grand-Rapids-culture-economy

http://www.freep.com/article/20130509/ent1005/305090051/

If any of you guys are planning a pilgrimage, PM me.   We will toast MU together over GR's finest. 


I had my KBS for the year.   Strong.   Smooth.    You can taste the coffee, taste the chocolate, and feel the bourbon in your sinuses. 

I would like to do this.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: swoopem on May 09, 2013, 12:38:55 PM
Have you guys heard about what's going down at Soldier Field Saturday? http://www.americanbeerclassic.com/  Some other MU alums and I will be attending, looks pretty sweet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 10, 2013, 11:41:53 PM
Sitting down with a beer and some playoff basketball... might as well post some tasting notes I had.

New Holland Night Tripper- Big imperial stout. Jet black, a thin tan head. Very good representation of the style. Would love to try it barrel aged, if they do that.

Pearl Street Stout- Really bad. Overly bitter, too carbonated. Did not care for it.

Tyranena Coffee Imperial Porter- A touch lighter than a stout. On the dry side from the oatmeal, but nice coffee/chocolate notes. Very good.

Lakefront "Chad" Barleywine- Holy balls. A huge, complex beer. Boozy, malty goodness. Bought another bottle to age.

Black Husky Pale Ale- Loved it. Dances on the Pale/IPA line, but really good. Assertively hopped, but balanced.

Black Husky Sproose Joose- Hated it. It's like they put a car air freshener in secondary fermentation. Pine flavors were overwhelming.

Tallgrass Buffalo Sweat- Had the Raspbery/Vanilla bean version from a firkin, and it was perfect. Smooth drinking stout with a touch of sweetness.

Abita Vanilla Double Dog- Had this on tap a few months back, and haven't been able to find it since. It was wonderful. I like Turbodog a lot, and they upped the strength while smoothing it out with Vanilla. Delicious.

New Glarus Edel Pils- Out of Two Women and Hometown Blonde, this was my favorite pilsner. I'm not crazy about the grassy/earthy finish those beers have, but the Edel Pils was smooth, almost creamy. Super easy drinker.

Capital Mutiny IPA- Didn't come in with terribly high expectations, since it's Capital's first IPA. It wasn't terrible, but I wouldn't buy it again. Unremarkable.

New Belgium Heavenly Feijoa- Not sure how much of a trippel this was. Drank more like a wild ale. Tropical sweet/tartness, and a well-hidden ABV. Interesting beer.

3 Sheeps Black Wheat- Was expecting a dunkel. Felt like I was drinking a porter. Not bad, but not one I'd seek out.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on May 10, 2013, 11:49:20 PM
A few more...

Abita Christmas- Disappointed. Usually these types of beers have a nice toffee maltiness, or are on the hoppy side. This was neither. Not sure what it was, to be honest. Mislabeled Turbodog?

Brau Brothers Moo Joos- Run of the mill milk stout. Nothing to write home about.

Boulder Never Summer- Decent winter warmer. Only 6%, so it didn't warm too much.

New Belgium Imperial Coffee Stout- Fantastic. Coffee and chocolate blended perfectly, and no burn despite it being 9%.

Capital Eternal Flame- This year's version was an imperial maibock mixed with Autumnal Fire, and last year's Flame. A big, malty bock with enough booze to spice it up. Love this concept, hope it continues.

Sprecher Hopfuzion- Enjoyed this one a lot. The wet hop addition almost gives it some green apple qualities. Refreshing session beer.

Revolution Fistmas- First beer from them that I've tried. Not bad. Expected more of a hop prescense.

Sierra Nevada Ruthless Rye- Really nice beer. Hops, caramel notes, with some spice from the rye to finish. Enjoyed it.

Alaskan Black IPA- Up there with NG's Black Top at the top of my list for the style. Excellent.

Dark Horse Kmita Kolsch- I love Dark Horse's beer. This one missed the mark. Poured a cloudy, dark caramel color. Not bad, but not a Kolsch.

Southern Tier Choklat- Might be my new dessert beer. Aroma was like chocolate milk, but the stout wasn't overly sweet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on May 22, 2013, 01:28:42 PM
Anyone have an extra bottle of KBS they would like to send/sell/trade me? 
Can't buy it in Florida and my stores in Georgia where I normally buy Breakfast Stout couldnt get their hands on any.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ron Paul on May 22, 2013, 01:32:47 PM
I have an extra KBS I could send your way.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on May 22, 2013, 01:34:50 PM
I have an extra KBS I could send your way.

What a coincidence, I was just downloading your app.


What would you like in return?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Ron Paul on May 22, 2013, 01:41:50 PM
email me at john@thebeerfridge.com
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 03, 2013, 08:53:00 AM
I had a few bottles of the New Glarus 20th Anniversary Belgian Dubbel this weekend - highly recommend it if you can find it while it lasts, it is apparently in very limited quantities of 1/2 liter bottles. Otto's and Discount each have a 2 bottle limit.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on June 03, 2013, 09:09:32 AM
Does anyone else here like Trappists? I did a full tasting of all 7 official Trappist breweries a little while back. They were all great, but to me the clear winners were Chimay Blue and Orval.

Also, I am going to Belgium later this year. Are there any great breweries that are worth checking out in person?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 03, 2013, 11:12:15 AM
Does anyone else here like Trappists? I did a full tasting of all 7 official Trappist breweries a little while back. They were all great, but to me the clear winners were Chimay Blue and Orval.

Also, I am going to Belgium later this year. Are there any great breweries that are worth checking out in person?

Cantillon
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: swoopem on June 03, 2013, 02:41:28 PM

Also, I am going to Belgium later this year. Are there any great breweries that are worth checking out in person?

Riva! It's my Grandpa's cousin's brewery
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 03, 2013, 04:06:41 PM
Does anyone else here like Trappists? I did a full tasting of all 7 official Trappist breweries a little while back. They were all great, but to me the clear winners were Chimay Blue and Orval.

Also, I am going to Belgium later this year. Are there any great breweries that are worth checking out in person?

We used to hit the Belgian breweries when I was stationed at Spangdahlem. Orval is the best but they are only open at certain times and it can be bloody difficult to get in. I recall they had a lottery but the base MWR was always able to get some passes so we were able to visit. Chimay is a bit remote if you are in Brussels but that only adds to the pilgrimage vibe. Achel and Rochefort are also worth visiting. There is enough geographic distribution there to make one of them accessible. Proost! 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 03, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
Riva! It's my Grandpa's cousin's brewery

That is very cool. I am not familiar with Riva but the Belgian breweries are all charming places. I think that would be a wonderful way to spend one's days. Making fine beer is a worthy craft that serves a noble purpose.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on June 04, 2013, 09:39:52 AM
We used to hit the Belgian breweries when I was stationed at Spangdahlem. Orval is the best but they are only open at certain times and it can be bloody difficult to get in. I recall they had a lottery but the base MWR was always able to get some passes so we were able to visit. Chimay is a bit remote if you are in Brussels but that only adds to the pilgrimage vibe. Achel and Rochefort are also worth visiting. There is enough geographic distribution there to make one of them accessible. Proost! 

I have looked into Orval since they are one of the best Trappists, have a guest Chalet and are somewhat accesible via public transit (basically a commuter train and a bus will get you there from Brussels). But I am a little wary because in October it looks like they have no guided tours so you are basically on your own. Orval's monastery also has ruins dating from the 11th century while Chimay was built in the last 200 years, so the history factor leans in Orval's direction.  Also wondering if you can comment on the whole visiting a monastery aspect. We are by no means out of control but we would like to drink and have a good time and wanted to make sure we wouldn't be interrupting someone's retreat or get scolded for downing a few too many.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 04, 2013, 11:38:26 AM
I have looked into Orval since they are one of the best Trappists, have a guest Chalet and are somewhat accesible via public transit (basically a commuter train and a bus will get you there from Brussels). But I am a little wary because in October it looks like they have no guided tours so you are basically on your own. Orval's monastery also has ruins dating from the 11th century while Chimay was built in the last 200 years, so the history factor leans in Orval's direction.  Also wondering if you can comment on the whole visiting a monastery aspect. We are by no means out of control but we would like to drink and have a good time and wanted to make sure we wouldn't be interrupting someone's retreat or get scolded for downing a few too many.

The monks are good guys. They drink their product with every meal though I recall them saying that during the week it is a watered down "3.2" version. On weekends they revert to the real thing. They are evident during the tour and are certainly approachable.

As for environment, between the Flemish, Dutch, Germans, and Brits who will likely be there you will have to shout over their raucous amusements. In the world you have Horton Roe monks and Sebastian Moore monks. The Horton Roe monk is a surly, dour, morose sort while the Sebastian Moore monk is blithe, empathetic, and discerning. The Belgian Trappists are the latter. After all, they make the world's finest beer for God's sake!

Of the four monasteries I mentioned Orval would be the must see. As I mentioned, they are less accessible than the others so find out their hours before making the trek. The tour is definitely worth it as it is far more casual and interactive than the old Pabst/Schlitz/Miller tours we took back at MU. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on June 04, 2013, 08:59:51 PM
I have looked into Orval since they are one of the best Trappists, have a guest Chalet and are somewhat accesible via public transit (basically a commuter train and a bus will get you there from Brussels). But I am a little wary because in October it looks like they have no guided tours so you are basically on your own. Orval's monastery also has ruins dating from the 11th century while Chimay was built in the last 200 years, so the history factor leans in Orval's direction.  Also wondering if you can comment on the whole visiting a monastery aspect. We are by no means out of control but we would like to drink and have a good time and wanted to make sure we wouldn't be interrupting someone's retreat or get scolded for downing a few too many.

Abbaye Notre-Dame d'Orval is one of the most enchanting pieces of land I've visited in my life. Full disclosure, I went in February just after a snowfall and saw four other people over the three hours I spent there. Much different then when most visit in the summer.

Things to know: you will not interact with the Monks; in fact, the old ruins and tutorial area as well as the shop are walled off from the cloister. The Guardian Angel is on premise and serves lighter fare and also the famous "petit" Orval of which keefe wrote about. Down the entry road is the Hotellerie d'Orval which is a smallish chalet that will err on the quieter side as does much of the surrounding area. I drove so not sure on the public transport and how accessible it really is.

As for a brewery suggestion, though in the opposite end of the country in West Flanders, the De Struise Brouwers are one of the finest examples of craftsmanship brewing in the world. Head brewer Urbain is a man of the world, Carlo is gregarious, and young Jay (Urbain's son-in-law and apprentice) loves talking with Americans. They are open only on Saturday from 2-6 in the afternoon but you could always visit St. Sixtus Abbey about four miles away for the (in)famous Westvleteren 12, 8, or Blond that morning.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 05, 2013, 08:16:24 AM
The monks are good guys. They drink their product with every meal though I recall them saying that during the week it is a watered down "3.2" version. On weekends they revert to the real thing. They are evident during the tour and are certainly approachable.


That is why Trappist Ale styles are Single (for every day drinking), Double (for weekends), Triple (for special occasions) and Quads (for very special occasions).

Orval is the sheeet! Love that beer. But if you're in Belgium look up every sour and farmhouse brewery you can. They are everywhere. I am hoping I get to go on our next work trip to Belgium soon, it's been few years since they have done one but it's a beer lovers dream.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on June 05, 2013, 09:16:48 AM
I studied in antwerp for 6 mos while at Marquette.  It ruined me on domestic beers..
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on June 05, 2013, 10:33:53 AM
Thanks for all of the feedback on Orval guys. I am definitely going to try to get there now. It sounds like an amazing place.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 05, 2013, 03:08:13 PM
Thanks for all of the feedback on Orval guys. I am definitely going to try to get there now. It sounds like an amazing place.

We often went there but that was 25 years ago. It is a real gem and the beer is superb. You won't go wrong.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on June 06, 2013, 10:33:41 AM
I had a few bottles of the New Glarus 20th Anniversary Belgian Dubbel this weekend - highly recommend it if you can find it while it lasts, it is apparently in very limited quantities of 1/2 liter bottles. Otto's and Discount each have a 2 bottle limit.

Had a bottle last night... really nice beer. Would be a nice candidate to age as well.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 06, 2013, 11:03:15 AM
Had a bottle last night... really nice beer. Would be a nice candidate to age as well.

I bought 2 cases (12 bottles/case) to cellar for a bit, nice to get a 'case' price no less instead of that darn 2 bottle limit at some places
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 19, 2013, 07:31:05 AM
2 great summer beers I had last weekend with some friends tho not really new things along with a new thing coming out our brewery:

1) New Glarrus Berliner Weiss - hot damn this is a great drinking beer and is so sessionable at 3.5%. Light tartness comes through from the souring brew process but that is ballanced so perfectly with the addition of Riesling grapes. Thank god I am coming back up to Wisconsin this weekend so I can try and find a few cases of it.

2) Steigl Grapefruit Raddler (now in 16oz Tallboys) - Hell to the motherf*cking yes! Always a summer favorite of mine, but this traditional combination of Lager beer and grapefruit soda is just kickass! Beyond refreshing but you need to watch out as too many can make your stomach a little wonky.

3) Goose Island The Illinois IIPA (draft only) - our head brewer Jared knocked it out of the park with this one. It's a very refreshing and drinkable IIPA coming in around 8.5% ABV. Not overly sweet or a tongue scraper like so many IIPA, you can actually enjoy a few glasses of this but it is still right in style spec. It's draft only so I would recommend you watch your favorite watering holes for this one. It's good.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sunbelt15 on June 19, 2013, 03:29:04 PM
Worst beer I ever had, sad to say, was "Milwaukee's Best". Beer so bad it made me quit drinking.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 19, 2013, 04:11:13 PM
Worst beer I ever had, sad to say, was "Milwaukee's Best". Beer so bad it made me quit drinking.

LOL, you actually quit drinking entirely? It is not a good beer but to hold that against every other beer? sorry but I'm almost crying I laughed so hard.



I would never drink MB although my wife loves their MBL (bless her heart, saves me a ton of $$$).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on June 19, 2013, 04:35:21 PM
2 great summer beers I had last weekend with some friends tho not really new things along with a new thing coming out our brewery:

1) New Glarrus Berliner Weiss - hot damn this is a great drinking beer and is so sessionable at 3.5%. Light tartness comes through from the souring brew process but that is ballanced so perfectly with the addition of Riesling grapes. Thank god I am coming back up to Wisconsin this weekend so I can try and find a few cases of it.

2) Steigl Grapefruit Raddler (now in 16oz Tallboys) - Hell to the motherf*cking yes! Always a summer favorite of mine, but this traditional combination of Lager beer and grapefruit soda is just kickass! Beyond refreshing but you need to watch out as too many can make your stomach a little wonky.

3) Goose Island The Illinois IIPA (draft only) - our head brewer Jared knocked it out of the park with this one. It's a very refreshing and drinkable IIPA coming in around 8.5% ABV. Not overly sweet or a tongue scraper like so many IIPA, you can actually enjoy a few glasses of this but it is still right in style spec. It's draft only so I would recommend you watch your favorite watering holes for this one. It's good.


First two sound like fruit juice. No thanks. Third one sounds awesome. Do you work for Goose Island?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on June 19, 2013, 05:41:58 PM

First two sound like fruit juice. No thanks. Third one sounds awesome. Do you work for Goose Island?

He does IIRC
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 20, 2013, 07:35:52 AM

First two sound like fruit juice. No thanks. Third one sounds awesome. Do you work for Goose Island?

First one is definately not Fruit Juice. It's actually a sour, tart beer - and not like the other New Glarus ones such as Belgian Red. The grapes ad a subtle sweetness to the beer overall tartness that balances into something refreshing. But a Berliner Weiss is a traditional style where the mash is allowed to come to room temperature and actually naturally sour a bit. Takes about 24-48 hours for that happen the brewing process is completed. 

The second one is a bit sweet but it's very refreshing and very traditional. Sort of speaks to my German soul. If you ever go to Oktoberfest in Munich, the majority of people will drink Raddlers during the day and Oktoberfest beers at night so they can drink longer due to the low ABV of Raddlers.

Last question, yes I do work for Goose Island. Also, if you see anu Sofie Paradisi in your markets, go drink it. I know Mike Roman had some at Roman's but it may be gone. Beer is the sheeet.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on June 20, 2013, 03:32:41 PM
First one is definately not Fruit Juice. It's actually a sour, tart beer - and not like the other New Glarus ones such as Belgian Red. The grapes ad a subtle sweetness to the beer overall tartness that balances into something refreshing. But a Berliner Weiss is a traditional style where the mash is allowed to come to room temperature and actually naturally sour a bit. Takes about 24-48 hours for that happen the brewing process is completed.  

The second one is a bit sweet but it's very refreshing and very traditional. Sort of speaks to my German soul. If you ever go to Oktoberfest in Munich, the majority of people will drink Raddlers during the day and Oktoberfest beers at night so they can drink longer due to the low ABV of Raddlers.

Last question, yes I do work for Goose Island. Also, if you see anu Sofie Paradisi in your markets, go drink it. I know Mike Roman had some at Roman's but it may be gone. Beer is the sheeet.

Yeah, I've had Raddlers, had one at the Hofbrauhaus in Munich actually. Not my bag, but I get the appeal, especially in summer. I'll give the Berliner Weiss a shot.

Is the Sofie Paradisi different than the regular Sofie? That's my gf's favorite Goose Island beer. I prefer the Pere Jacques. Also love the Green Line and IPA. Did you have something to do with the Pere Jacques naming, Mr. Marquette alum? What do you do at the Goose? I live very near the Clybourn location. Has the A-B buyout changed things a bit?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on June 20, 2013, 04:03:16 PM
Are they distributing Stiegl in WI yet? I'm intrigued.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 21, 2013, 08:22:01 AM
Yeah, I've had Raddlers, had one at the Hofbrauhaus in Munich actually. Not my bag, but I get the appeal, especially in summer. I'll give the Berliner Weiss a shot.

Is the Sofie Paradisi different than the regular Sofie? That's my gf's favorite Goose Island beer. I prefer the Pere Jacques. Also love the Green Line and IPA. Did you have something to do with the Pere Jacques naming, Mr. Marquette alum? What do you do at the Goose? I live very near the Clybourn location. Has the A-B buyout changed things a bit?

Sofie Paradisi uses grapefruit instead of oranges in the barrel aging to give it a different flavor and mouth feel. It's dynamite. I think Clybourn has it on draft right now. Pere Jacques was before my time but it actually has a great naming story. Pere Jacques was actually the Abbott of the Orval Monastery in Belgium and gave our old Brew Master Greg Hall a tour once.

Not much has really changed. We now have the ability to utilize two of the AB breweries to brew some of our beers which has freed up a ton of capacity here in Chicago to make a lot more of the specialty beers like Bourbon County Brand Stout, Matilda, Sofie, Juliet, Madam Rose, etc. We also have the ability to do more kickass things like become the sponsor of the Pitchfork Music Festival again after a two year absence. Goose was the original sponsor so it's sort of like bringing it home. Also, now you can get a Goose IPA or Honkers at Fenway Park, Yankee Stadium and stadium/arena in Philly, LA Forum, etc.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 21, 2013, 10:03:08 AM
Also, if you see anu Sofie Paradisi in your markets, go drink it. I know Mike Roman had some at Roman's but it may be gone. Beer is the sheeet.

lools like he still has it on tap (from his website)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on June 21, 2013, 04:28:21 PM
I haven't had a Sapporo in years, maybe even decades, but their commercial is pretty cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=K-Rs6YEZAt8

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 21, 2013, 06:08:53 PM
I haven't had a Sapporo in years, maybe even decades, but their commercial is pretty cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=K-Rs6YEZAt8



I have lived in Japan more than 20 years. The Japanese lagers are the finest in the world. Sapporo is an outstanding draft. As with many things the Japanese took a western concept and perfected it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on June 24, 2013, 09:49:40 AM
Sapporo is good. I prefer Kirin Ichiban
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on June 24, 2013, 09:59:05 AM
I have lived in Japan more than 20 years. The Japanese lagers are the finest in the world. Sapporo is an outstanding draft. As with many things the Japanese took a western concept and perfected it.

Wow. Japanese over German lagers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on June 24, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
Tsingtao is a pretty solid Chinese lager
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 25, 2013, 04:00:08 AM
Tsingtao is a pretty solid Chinese lager

Qingtao was the HQ of the German concession. The brewery was founded by German brewmeisters during the colonial period and made in accordance with the Reinheitsgebot.  Tsingtao is an outstanding lager.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 25, 2013, 04:01:36 AM
Sapporo is good. I prefer Kirin Ichiban

Kirin, Asahi, and Sapporo are all excellent. The Sapporo sold in N America is brewed by Molson. It ain't the same.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on June 25, 2013, 07:37:24 AM
Qingtao was the HQ of the German concession. The brewery was founded by German brewmeisters during the colonial period and made in accordance with the Reinheitsgebot.  Tsingtao is an outstanding lager.

I had to opportunity to visit the city of Qingdao.   I unfortunately did not have the opportunity to visit the Old Town or see the original Tsingtao brewery.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 25, 2013, 09:44:53 AM
Kirin, Asahi, and Sapporo are all excellent. The Sapporo sold in N America is brewed by Molson. It ain't the same.

Kirin is owned by ABI.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 25, 2013, 10:17:40 AM
Kirin is owned by ABI.

Not sure what you mean by this as Kirin is a key member of the Mitusbishi keiretsu, one of Japan's 5 core Zaibatsu. Kirin is huge, with international holdings in agro, pharma, food, restaurants, logistics, real estate, and beverages. If you live in New England your are drinking Kirin Coca Cola. Kirin brews Bud and Heineken in Japan under license. Why anyone would order Bud in Tokyo is beyond me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sir Lawrence on June 25, 2013, 10:29:23 AM
Why anyone would order Bud in Tokyo anywhere is beyond me.

Fixed it for you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on June 25, 2013, 01:12:33 PM
Wow. Japanese over German lagers.

This is all making me really curious about Italian lagers.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 25, 2013, 01:18:08 PM
Not sure what you mean by this as Kirin is a key member of the Mitusbishi keiretsu, one of Japan's 5 core Zaibatsu. Kirin is huge, with international holdings in agro, pharma, food, restaurants, logistics, real estate, and beverages. If you live in New England your are drinking Kirin Coca Cola. Kirin brews Bud and Heineken in Japan under license. Why anyone would order Bud in Tokyo is beyond me.

You are correct, I am mistaken. ABI and Kirin have a JV agreement for ABI to brew Kirin beers in the US.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 25, 2013, 06:45:21 PM
You are correct, I am mistaken. ABI and Kirin have a JV agreement for ABI to brew Kirin beers in the US.


That’s ok, it’s the beer that counts. It's actually a cross licensing agreement as there is no shared equity but the market effect is the same. Kirin is a major shareholder in another of the world's great beers - San Miguel. San Miguel is really not all that great as a beer but anyone who has served in either the USAF or USN and has spent time at Subic Bay has probably consumed a goodly quantity of this Pale Pilsen nectar. San Miguel ensured a good time would be had by all and provided memories that are far richer than gold.

The Fightin’ Samurai of Misawa AB hung out at The Nipa Hut while the World Famous Iron Claws of NAS Atsugi called The Marmont their home away from home. San Miguel was the beverage of choice in both and through that magical elixir loves were found or lost, courage instilled, battles fought once more, wars waged and ultimately won, cancers cured, baluts consumed, games of smiles enacted, virgins converted, business ventures launched, and the world’s great problems were reduced to manageable proportions.

And while the harsh tropical daybreak and the oily perfume of JP 4 brought one crashing back to a reality that in reflection wasn’t all that bad it was the lubricant of San Miguel that greased the skids of youthful exuberance. Through the passage of time the warriors have come and gone in one long unbroken line of blue but the San Miguel remains. Always the San Miguel…   Ito Ang Beer!




The Nipa Hut, Angeles City, Outside the Main Gate of Clark AB on the MacArthur Highway, Pampanga Province. Probably one of the world's most storied Fighter Bars. The Hut outlasted both the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Empire.
 
(http://zcap.freeyellow.com/dangeles001.jpg)



Flight Suit Patch awarded for earning the coveted Nipa Hut 50 Mission Qual. Paid for in Blood it commanded immediate respect in the Fighter community.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/CLARK-AB-ANGELES-CITY-PHILIPPINES-BAR-RUNNIING-PATCH-50-MISSIONS-NIPA-HUT-Y-/00/s/NzI3WDcwMA==/$(KGrHqJ,!lIE+25kqPC7BQFs11f6h!~~60_35.JPG)



Flight Suit Patch for the World's Greatest F16 Viper Squadron, the Fighting Samurai of the 14th FS, Misawa AB, Aomori Prefecture, Japan. The Samurai were known to frequent the Nipa Hut during Cope Thunder TDYs. They came, they conquered, they drank.

"Where do we get such Men?"

(http://www.ericsusafpatches.nl/Fighter/Squadron/14%20FS%20SAMURAI%20JM001.jpg)




The Bridge Over Sh1t River: Outside the Main Gate of NAS Cubi Point, Gordon Avenue in Olongapo City, Zambales Province, Republic of the Philippines.

The Marmont Bar and Aviator Recreation Center stands like an Oasis in the Desert. A variety of thirsts were slaked within those obliging walls.  

(http://www.pensacolafishingforum.com/attachments/f22/15511d1294768404t-olongapo-city-philippines-crapriverolongapo1972-jpg)



The Mighty Iron Claws on the eve of Desert Storm. First in over Baghdad, they busted Saddam's cherry. Combat Legends were born that day.


(http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/02/31/41/628840/3/628x471.jpg)



Carnival in Olongapo City. San Miguel takes her rightful place as the Queen of Fat Tuesday.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/reyrefran/pakshet%20101/omg5.jpg)



The Cubi Officer's Club: THE finest Fighter Bar anywhere! Serving San Miguel to thirsty aviators since WWII.

(http://www.fighterpilotuniversity.com/files/9813/5277/4519/cubibar2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 26, 2013, 08:34:12 AM
but where are the cartoons?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 26, 2013, 12:39:10 PM
but where are the cartoons?

(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/60/6068/47YD100Z/posters/jack-ziegler-man-surrounded-by-empty-beer-cans-asleep-in-a-chair-with-a-copy-of-beer-new-yorker-cartoon.jpg)

(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/60/6007/KVGB100Z/posters/frank-cotham-i-doubt-that-a-children-s-book-about-beer-would-sell-new-yorker-cartoon.jpg)


(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/60/6057/8O9D100Z/posters/michael-crawford-ann-tells-us-you-experimented-a-little-with-light-beer-in-college-new-yorker-cartoon.jpg)


(http://imgc.artprintimages.com/images/art-print/bernard-schoenbaum--to-motherhood-apple-pie-and-beer--new-yorker-cartoon_i-G-66-6615-2IHE100Z.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on June 26, 2013, 03:34:43 PM
Meanwhile... Dogfish Head will be distributing to WI again by the end of the year. Good news.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 26, 2013, 04:22:50 PM
Meanwhile... Dogfish Head will be distributing to WI again by the end of the year. Good news.

Now that is a genuinely great brewer with some real legs. I compare it with our local Issaquah Rogue Brewhouse. Both make a superb Brown Ale.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 26, 2013, 05:49:54 PM
Meanwhile... Dogfish Head will be distributing to WI again by the end of the year. Good news.

I would put Rogue in the same elite level as Dogfish. I encourage you to sample these beers.

http://rogue.com/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 26, 2013, 06:01:07 PM
Meanwhile... Dogfish Head will be distributing to WI again by the end of the year. Good news.

Outside of 75 min and Festina Peche - meh. The whole constant hopping thing is a marketing gimmick. Also, Sam's use of spices and other filler ingredients is cute and such, but I don't think it makes outstanding beers.

Needless to say, Dogfish is better marketing company IMO than brewery.

Same with Rogue. The fact they even sell that Maple Bacon Beer is a travesty. That is beer is disgusting.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 26, 2013, 07:00:00 PM
Outside of 75 min and Festina Peche - meh. The whole constant hopping thing is a marketing gimmick. Also, Sam's use of spices and other filler ingredients is cute and such, but I don't think it makes outstanding beers.

Needless to say, Dogfish is better marketing company IMO than brewery.

Same with Rogue. The fact they even sell that Maple Bacon Beer is a travesty. That is beer is disgusting.

I have no particular expertise in beer other than a palate hatched in the misty alleys of Georgetown, nurtured in the smoky air of the Lanche and Lenny's then honed in the world's great dive bars. But I did come to recognize then celebrate the differences in regionals from having traveled every continent and time spent living in England, Japan, and Germany. Personally, I like the great micros here in the PNW because that is what is readily available.

Rogue has a fantastic brewhouse in Issaquah offering a prodigious selection of exceptional quality. Are they the best in the world? I couldn't say. But they offer a variety of styles and types of unsurpassed quality in a convivial atmosphere. I have brought German colleagues from T-Mobile/Deutsch Telekom to Rogue and they rate the various Alt and Kolsch styles as being worthy of the names.

For what it's worth, the PNW has been an epicenter of the microbrewery revolution. Elysian, Pike, Red Hook, Rogue, Diamond Knot, Fremont, Naked City, Pyramid, Hale's, Road Dog, Georgetown, Mac and Jack, Schooner, Twisp River, Deschutes, Full Sail, Kettle House, Boundary Bay, Sleeping Giant, Roots, Widmer, etc... all craft world-class gems that beguile, intrigue, and enchant. To suggest that any of these do not make superb beer is both petty and naive.

While I appreciate great beer it cannot compare in complexity, depth, richness, and vitality to wine or single malt. But thank god for great beer, regardless of origin.


Boundary Bay, Bellingham, WA
(http://cdn1.matadornetwork.com/matadortrips.com/docs/wp-content/images/posts/20090424-eric02.jpg)

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 26, 2013, 08:26:16 PM
I have no particular expertise in beer other than a palate hatched in the misty alleys of Georgetown, nurtured in the smoky air of the Lanche and Lenny's then honed in the world's great dive bars. But I did come to recognize then celebrate the differences in regionals from having traveled every continent and time spent living in England, Japan, and Germany. Personally, I like the great micros here in the PNW because that is what is readily available.

Rogue has a fantastic brewhouse in Issaquah offering a prodigious selection of exceptional quality. Are they the best in the world? I couldn't say. But they offer a variety of styles and types of unsurpassed quality in a convivial atmosphere. I have brought German colleagues from T-Mobile/Deutsch Telekom to Rogue and they rate the various Alt and Kolsch styles as being worthy of the names.

For what it's worth, the PNW has been an epicenter of the microbrewery revolution. Elysian, Pike, Red Hook, Rogue, Diamond Knot, Fremont, Naked City, Pyramid, Hale's, Road Dog, Georgetown, Mac and Jack, Schooner, Twisp River, Deschutes, Full Sail, Kettle House, Boundary Bay, Sleeping Giant, Roots, Widmer, etc... all craft world-class gems that beguile, intrigue, and enchant. To suggest that any of these do not make superb beer is both petty and naive.

While I appreciate great beer it cannot compare in complexity, depth, richness, and vitality to wine or single malt. But thank god for great beer, regardless of origin.


Boundary Bay, Bellingham, WA
(http://cdn1.matadornetwork.com/matadortrips.com/docs/wp-content/images/posts/20090424-eric02.jpg)


I am a big fan of Manny's Pale Ale and tried to bring back a growler in my suitcase during my last trip to Seattle. There are a lot of great breweries up in that area tho I think you need to include NoCal too for Russian River, Bear Republic, Etc.

I have also heard Rogue's taproom has a lot of great beers but I need to get to Portland and Oregon soon. But yes, thank god for the expansion of good beer. Problem is, there are a lot of new craft brewers opening up that are making bad beer which I hope doesn't hurt the overall movement.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on June 26, 2013, 08:47:06 PM
I gotta say, Grand Rapids is more of the epicenter of the micro movement than the PNW. Could just be my midwest influence, but it's hard to beat. Founders, Bells, Dark Horse, Grand Rapids, HopCat, New Holland and more all within a 20-30 minutes is incredible.

I also usually pass on Dogfish, it's a trap for rookies.

Rogue has good stuff, like Dead Guy, but anyone who likes the Maple Bacon should be sentenced to drinking Blatz for the rest of eternity.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on June 26, 2013, 09:14:46 PM
I gotta say, Grand Rapids is more of the epicenter of the micro movement than the PNW. Could just be my midwest influence, but it's hard to beat. Founders, Bells, Dark Horse, Grand Rapids, HopCat, New Holland and more all within a 20-30 minutes is incredible.

I also usually pass on Dogfish, it's a trap for rookies.

Rogue has good stuff, like Dead Guy, but anyone who likes the Maple Bacon should be sentenced to drinking Blatz for the rest of eternity.

Founders & Bells yes. Dark Horse has some great hits but some big misses. You forgot Brewery Vivant in Grand Rapids - doing some great stuff. New Holland, meh. If you're ever in Holland, MI skip New Holland and walk three doors down to Our Brewing Co. Great guys and great beer. Don't forget Green Bush as well as new craft Cider companies popping up.

I also think mass in Chicagoland is starting to pick up steam with original Goose Island and now Revolution, Three Floyds, Half Acre, Pipeworks, Two Brothers, etc.

Needless to say, there is a lot of good beer to drink.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 26, 2013, 10:19:46 PM
I am a big fan of Manny's Pale Ale and tried to bring back a growler in my suitcase during my last trip to Seattle. There are a lot of great breweries up in that area tho I think you need to include NoCal too for Russian River, Bear Republic, Etc.

I have also heard Rogue's taproom has a lot of great beers but I need to get to Portland and Oregon soon. But yes, thank god for the expansion of good beer. Problem is, there are a lot of new craft brewers opening up that are making bad beer which I hope doesn't hurt the overall movement.

NorCal has a distinguished roster of brewers offering up a celebrated menu. We often traveled to Napa and Sonoma and I always insisted on stops at both Russian River and Bear Republic. Russian’s Damnation and both Pliny IPA’s are more than noteworthy while Bear’s Stouts are stellar. Healdsburg was one of my bride’s favorite little California wine country towns so I was fortunate to squeeze in an hour or two at the Republic while she hit the local galleries.

Other outstanding NorCal micros beyond Anchor and Sierra I would recommend include Lost Coast in Eureka (Downtown Brown,) Mad River in Blue Lake (Steelhead Extra Pale,) and Moylan’s in Novato (Imperial Stout.)   

Manny’s is a nicely hopped pale ale with a citrus nose and bittersweet tongue. It finishes nicely and pairs well with grilled seafood. Personally, my preference in Seattle is Mac and Jack’s African Amber. It is ubiquitous here and the go-to drink of many. It is unfiltered, has minimal bitterness, nicely spiced with floral and citrus top notes, and a creaminess reminiscent of great English ales.

Oregon boasts Rogue, Full Sail, Widmer, and Deschutes. If you have never been to Bend it is a great town delivering a full meal deal 4 Season outdoor experience. When we skied Mt Bachelor we stayed in Bend and always visited Deschutes. An incredible brewery and the food was actually rather good. If in Portland I recommend Rogue’s distillery in the Pearl. They have tours but more compelling are the 40 some taps.

Let me know if you come through Seattle. I’ll take you out to Rogue’s Issaquah Brewhouse. I am a citizen of Rogue Nation!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 26, 2013, 10:38:59 PM
I gotta say, Grand Rapids is more of the epicenter of the micro movement than the PNW. Could just be my midwest influence, but it's hard to beat. Founders, Bells, Dark Horse, Grand Rapids, HopCat, New Holland and more all within a 20-30 minutes is incredible.

I also usually pass on Dogfish, it's a trap for rookies.

Rogue has good stuff, like Dead Guy, but anyone who likes the Maple Bacon should be sentenced to drinking Blatz for the rest of eternity.

I think one of the big reasons for Micro growth in the PNW is that we grow some of the best hops in the world. A neighbor is a German hops buyer for brewers back in the Fatherland. According to him the best hops are from Hallertau but the Yakima, Willamette, and Canyon hopyards in the PNW are almost the equal.

When I was in Ann Arbor the only beer I recall was Strohs. Yea. Strohs. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on June 27, 2013, 08:41:15 AM
Outside of 75 min and Festina Peche - meh. The whole constant hopping thing is a marketing gimmick. Also, Sam's use of spices and other filler ingredients is cute and such, but I don't think it makes outstanding beers.

Needless to say, Dogfish is better marketing company IMO than brewery.

Same with Rogue. The fact they even sell that Maple Bacon Beer is a travesty. That is beer is disgusting.

I get the stance that Sam (and more Mariah) knew about marketing early on than many breweries ever will but I do think they have enough good beers in a large (perhaps too large) portfolio to be considered one of the more influential brewers in the country. Palo, Burton, Shelter are pretty tasty mainstays. I think Immort, Fort, and Urkontinent are nice occasional brews. The Sierra Nevada collabs have been good, especially Life & Limb version.

I don't drink Rogue.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on June 27, 2013, 08:53:24 AM
I get the stance that Sam (and more Mariah) knew about marketing early on than many breweries ever will but I do think they have enough good beers in a large (perhaps too large) portfolio to be considered one of the more influential brewers in the country. Palo, Burton, Shelter are pretty tasty mainstays. I think Immort, Fort, and Urkontinent are nice occasional brews. The Sierra Nevada collabs have been good, especially Life & Limb version.

Their beers have almost become redundant, especially the hoppy ones. I think calling them "a trap for rookies" is unfair, though. Palo Santo, Festina, and Midas Touch are all very solid.

I'm all about breweries pushing limits and trying new things, even if they come across as gimmicky. I'll look past that if they come up with some good stuff.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on June 27, 2013, 11:18:36 AM
that is good news, only wish Stone would do the same

Meanwhile... Dogfish Head will be distributing to WI again by the end of the year. Good news.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on June 27, 2013, 11:35:15 AM
I gotta say, Grand Rapids is more of the epicenter of the micro movement than the PNW. Could just be my midwest influence, but it's hard to beat. Founders, Bells, Dark Horse, Grand Rapids, HopCat, New Holland and more all within a 20-30 minutes is incredible.

I also usually pass on Dogfish, it's a trap for rookies.

Rogue has good stuff, like Dead Guy, but anyone who likes the Maple Bacon should be sentenced to drinking Blatz for the rest of eternity.

Dark Horse is solid - has some great IPAs
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on June 27, 2013, 11:39:54 AM
Founders & Bells yes. Dark Horse has some great hits but some big misses. You forgot Brewery Vivant in Grand Rapids - doing some great stuff. New Holland, meh. If you're ever in Holland, MI skip New Holland and walk three doors down to Our Brewing Co. Great guys and great beer. Don't forget Green Bush as well as new craft Cider companies popping up.

I also think mass in Chicagoland is starting to pick up steam with original Goose Island and now Revolution, Three Floyds, Half Acre, Pipeworks, Two Brothers, etc.

Needless to say, there is a lot of good beer to drink.

..living in Grand Rapids....I am not a fan of Brewery Vivant.   Love their location, love their atmosphere, not so much their beer.    Founders, of course.   Personal favorite right now is Harmony brewing.   They are more of a brewpub.   Their dining room is about the size of a McCormick triple, but they combine their own beer (decent) with wood-fired pizzas (decadent).   Helluva combo.    Also, the Mitten.   Another brewpub with chairs from the old Tiger stadium and a baseball motif.   If you don't want to be tied down to a particular brewery, I recommend a trip to Graydon's Crossing, which has one of the most incredible beer menu's around  ( http://graydonscrossing.com/drink/   )

And if anybody is making the trip to GR, PM me and we will toast MU hoops and good beer.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on June 28, 2013, 04:54:10 AM

Rogue has good stuff, like Dead Guy, but anyone who likes the Maple Bacon should be sentenced to drinking Blatz for the rest of eternity.

I know Rogue does some funky stuff. But you need to be from the PNW to understand Maple Bacon. There is a genuine story to Maple Bacon which was part of a promotion Rogue did with Voodoo Donuts in Portland. It was entirely tongue in cheek and the reactions expressed here to the very notion of a Maple Bacon Beer is precisely the response the creators of brew and pastry hoped to elicit from outlanders. Celebrating the off-beat is an art form here.

Portlandians have a saying: "Keep Portland Weird." They take this challenge very seriously as a lifestyle marker. Maple Bacon donuts and beer is part of that tradition.

If you haven't spent time in the PNW you probably won't get it. The people are independent to a fault and cherish individualism to an extreme. Gifted with incredible natural beauty Alaska, BC, Washington, Oregon, and NorCal offers an enviable lifestyle that is unique and defies convention. Vancouver is a cultural sister of Portland much more than it is to Toronto and certainly Calgary.

So, yes, Rogue and Voodoo make maple bacon products that are embraced locally and questioned if not reviled on the other side of the Cascades. And the locals wouldn't have it any other way.


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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/24/us/24portlandia.html?_r=0

http://www.ifc.com/shows/portlandia

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on June 28, 2013, 09:13:41 AM
Their beers have almost become redundant, especially the hoppy ones. I think calling them "a trap for rookies" is unfair, though. Palo Santo, Festina, and Midas Touch are all very solid.

I'm all about breweries pushing limits and trying new things, even if they come across as gimmicky. I'll look past that if they come up with some good stuff.

Redundant is an interesting word. A lot of their releases these last two to three years have been in the same vain and have felt like drinking the same beer just with a different color on the label. And that should put people off.

Ironically, for a brewery that can be called out for style over substance, their brewpub always has a few interesting homebrew selections from their workforce. You can still see some legitimate experimentation.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on July 12, 2013, 07:41:33 PM
New Belgium Tour de Fat Update:


http://www.treehugger.com/corporate-responsibility/sometimes-the-combination-of-beer-and-bikes-can-mix.html



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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on July 13, 2013, 08:03:59 AM
New Belgium Tour de Fat Update:


http://www.treehugger.com/corporate-responsibility/sometimes-the-combination-of-beer-and-bikes-can-mix.html



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I will be going today in Chicago. Always a fun time.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on July 13, 2013, 10:37:36 AM
I will be going today in Chicago. Always a fun time.

Do give us an update. These are fun events.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on July 13, 2013, 09:27:33 PM
Do give us an update. These are fun events.

Due to doctors orders I couldn't ride my bike in the parade ride, but it is a good time. Great bands. Good friends. Nice weather.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on July 13, 2013, 11:12:17 PM
Due to doctors orders I couldn't ride my bike in the parade ride, but it is a good time. Great bands. Good friends. Nice weather.

Roger that. These are fun events with some fine beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU82 on July 16, 2013, 08:03:57 AM
Tried a beer for the first time the other day that I absolutely loved.

It's called Weihenstephaner Hefeweiss.

Wow, was it good! Gonna buy some (I hope) at my local beer and wine store today.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on July 16, 2013, 01:51:24 PM
^ that's one of the best and rated as such here:  http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/252/731
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU82 on July 16, 2013, 09:02:27 PM
^ that's one of the best and rated as such here:  http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/252/731

Thanks for the link, Red.

All I know is that I sampled lots of beer during a weekend in Asheville, which calls itself "Beer City," and that easliy was the best I quaffed.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on July 16, 2013, 09:46:20 PM
Tried a beer for the first time the other day that I absolutely loved.

It's called Weihenstephaner Hefeweiss.

Wow, was it good! Gonna buy some (I hope) at my local beer and wine store today.

The Cheese Castle usually has Weihen.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU82 on July 17, 2013, 04:35:54 PM
The Cheese Castle usually has Weihen.

That's good to know. We'll be doing the Chicago-Milwaukee trip very soon. Gotta stop and pick up a sixer!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on July 17, 2013, 06:25:56 PM
Had a New Belgium French Aramis  "IPA"

Holy christ, it was awful.  I wonder if they got a bad keg, but it was terrible.  Not hoppy despite having 3 different kinds of hops.  Flat, watered down.

I don't know what to say about it... I choked it down.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on July 17, 2013, 07:53:32 PM
That's good to know. We'll be doing the Chicago-Milwaukee trip very soon. Gotta stop and pick up a sixer!

That will be 6 different bottles though.

Cheese Castle has a nice selection, but like all tourist traps they charge for it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on July 17, 2013, 09:11:08 PM
That will be 6 different bottles though.

Cheese Castle has a nice selection, but like all tourist traps they charge for it.

Are you talking about that place just over the WI-IL state line? I think it's the Mars Cheese Castle? I thought that was just a tourist trap so I always gave it a miss. Little did I know it had great beer.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on July 17, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
Are you talking about that place just over the WI-IL state line? I think it's the Mars Cheese Castle? I thought that was just a tourist trap so I always gave it a miss. Little did I know it had great beer.

Why wouldn't you just go to Woodman's? Better selection and the best prices. Plus, you get a 10% discount for every case you buy.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU82 on July 17, 2013, 10:49:52 PM
Why wouldn't you just go to Woodman's? Better selection and the best prices. Plus, you get a 10% discount for every case you buy.

Sold!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on July 18, 2013, 09:18:18 AM
Tried a beer for the first time the other day that I absolutely loved.

It's called Weihenstephaner Hefeweiss.

Wow, was it good! Gonna buy some (I hope) at my local beer and wine store today.

I've been making a clone of this beer for years, and it gets better every time.

[Little known fact... one of the best things for nursing mothers is a good hefe.  Wife is now 8-1/2 months pregnant, and there are about a million cells of Wyeast 3068 growing on my stirplate right now.  Some women get jewelry or a vacation as a "push present"... my wife gets a keg of hefeweizen.]
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on July 18, 2013, 12:24:58 PM
I've been making a clone of this beer for years, and it gets better every time.

[Little known fact... one of the best things for nursing mothers is a good hefe.  Wife is now 8-1/2 months pregnant, and there are about a million cells of Wyeast 3068 growing on my stirplate right now.  Some women get jewelry or a vacation as a "push present"... my wife gets a keg of hefeweizen.]

Best wishes, benny, for a smooth landing~!!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on July 18, 2013, 12:38:30 PM
Why wouldn't you just go to Woodman's? Better selection and the best prices. Plus, you get a 10% discount for every case you buy.

The Woodman's in Kenosha is great for your standard craft 6-packs. Large selection, of year-rounds and some seasonals. Anything beyond that and they won't have it.

The Woodman's in Oak Creek will pick up the special runs and crafts though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on July 18, 2013, 03:17:53 PM
Best wishes, benny, for a smooth landing~!!

No worries... even if the beer doesn't turn out to be what I'm expecting, it's still my beer and I'll love it until the day I kick it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on July 18, 2013, 04:01:01 PM
No worries... even if the beer doesn't turn out to be what I'm expecting, it's still my beer and I'll love it until the day I kick it.

Uh, I was referring to your wife delivering
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Benny B on July 18, 2013, 04:55:52 PM
Uh, I was referring to your wife delivering

I would have expected my quip to go mach-mach over your average scooper, but a person such as yourself, having the artistic stranglehold of the English language as you do?  For shame, Keefe.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU82 on July 18, 2013, 05:36:34 PM
I've been making a clone of this beer for years, and it gets better every time.

[Little known fact... one of the best things for nursing mothers is a good hefe.  Wife is now 8-1/2 months pregnant, and there are about a million cells of Wyeast 3068 growing on my stirplate right now.  Some women get jewelry or a vacation as a "push present"... my wife gets a keg of hefeweizen.]

Oh my God ... I know you're having a baby and all, but is there room in your home? I am (mostly) house-trained and I rarely bite.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: keefe on July 18, 2013, 06:45:45 PM
I would have expected my quip to go mach-mach over your average scooper, but a person such as yourself, having the artistic stranglehold of the English language as you do?  For shame, Keefe.

Roger that. Even Ichiro goes O for 5 occasionally!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on July 24, 2013, 09:46:25 AM
I shared a bottle with the MRS. of New Glarus Strawberry Rhubarb last night. From what I've read online this might temporarily replace the Raspberry Tart. This I believe was naturally fermented outdoors in oak vessels similiar to the recent Wild Sour ale.

Mostly strawberry smell and the initial taste is mostly strawberry but then you taste the tartness of the rhubarb. The Mrs. really loved it and I thought it was pretty good especially since I thought I would hate it. Perhaps just a little aging might smooth out the strawberry some? Although this was OK right now. Here's a flier showing how they must have sourced their rhubarb


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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU82 on July 24, 2013, 12:19:44 PM
The Woodman's in Kenosha is great for your standard craft 6-packs. Large selection, of year-rounds and some seasonals. Anything beyond that and they won't have it.

The Woodman's in Oak Creek will pick up the special runs and crafts though.

Ended up getting my beer at someplace called Ray's in Milwaukee that my little brother knew about. Good thing, cuz Woodman's didn't have it. But Woodman's did have 12-packs of Hacker Pschorr's wheat beer at a great price, so that worked out nicely. Gonna have a few tonight at Millennium Park with some buddies. Can't wait!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on July 24, 2013, 03:51:49 PM
I know this may be a strange place to ask, but is there anyone around that has two spare tickets to the Great Taste of the Midwest in Madison on 8/17?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on July 25, 2013, 10:46:09 AM
I know this may be a strange place to ask, but is there anyone around that has two spare tickets to the Great Taste of the Midwest in Madison on 8/17?

There are always tickets available in Madison. Brewers / Breweries almost always order more than they need and will unload them at face day of bc they don't know how many people will show up.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on July 25, 2013, 11:28:36 AM
There are always tickets available in Madison. Brewers / Breweries almost always order more than they need and will unload them at face day of bc they don't know how many people will show up.

I got one last year for $10 over, which is nothing.  To be honest, I just want to make sure I get one.

Pretty sad that I am a member of the group that puts it on, and they don't have preferred tickets available to members.

My problem is that I can't imagine standing in line for 7+ hours to attend a beer tasting. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on July 29, 2013, 08:20:24 AM

Lagunitas is building a big brewery in Chicago:

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130727/ISSUE01/307279977/this-man-soon-will-be-chicagos%20biggest-brewer?r=9997H0364478A8T (http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130727/ISSUE01/307279977/this-man-soon-will-be-chicagos%20biggest-brewer?r=9997H0364478A8T)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on July 29, 2013, 06:07:44 PM
Lagunitas is building a big brewery in Chicago:

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130727/ISSUE01/307279977/this-man-soon-will-be-chicagos%20biggest-brewer?r=9997H0364478A8T (http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130727/ISSUE01/307279977/this-man-soon-will-be-chicagos%20biggest-brewer?r=9997H0364478A8T)

They still don't have any brewing permits yet. They won't be open for quite some time - most likely not for another year or so.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on July 30, 2013, 10:13:05 AM
They still don't have any brewing permits yet. They won't be open for quite some time - most likely not for another year or so.

Knowing Chicago, you're probably right. :)

Chili, do you get to make it to the Great Taste in Madison?  I had a glass of King Henry last year, and it was awesome... I wonder if you know what your group is bringing this year.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on July 30, 2013, 11:17:04 AM
Knowing Chicago, you're probably right. :)

Chili, do you get to make it to the Great Taste in Madison?  I had a glass of King Henry last year, and it was awesome... I wonder if you know what your group is bringing this year.

I will be there again this year working (and enjoying the festival) ... as to what we are bringing ....  8-) 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on July 30, 2013, 11:29:16 AM
I will be there again this year working (and enjoying the festival) ... as to what we are bringing ....  8-) 8-) 8-)

I'll be the dude in the Marquette shirt... assuming I can remember to wear it.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on August 01, 2013, 09:35:38 AM
Any good beer bars in Lake Geneva, WI?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on August 01, 2013, 09:56:03 AM
Any good beer bars in Lake Geneva, WI?


Unfortunately, not really.

Sprecher has a restaurant that will have all their brews available. Pretty good food as well.

Geneva Lake Brewery is a bit outside of town in an industrial park, but not worth a visit. The only 'okay' beer is their No Wake IPA.


Grand Geneva does a tasting the first weekend of November which is pretty good. All the usual Midwest crafts are there.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on August 01, 2013, 03:46:42 PM
I didn't think Lake Geneva had a decent bar, let alone a solid micro serving pub.  I will be there for the week, and was hopeful that had changed since last year.  You'd think all that suburban money would bring one or two decent pubs about.  Oh well.

Being in Kenosha (with the Uncle Mike's franchises and Slice make things easy to come by.  They always have a solid tap/bottle offering for the beer palette. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on August 01, 2013, 05:06:56 PM
I didn't think Lake Geneva had a decent bar, let alone a solid micro serving pub.  I will be there for the week, and was hopeful that had changed since last year.  You'd think all that suburban money would bring one or two decent pubs about.  Oh well.

Being in Kenosha (with the Uncle Mike's franchises and Slice make things easy to come by.  They always have a solid tap/bottle offering for the beer palette. 

They do have a nice homebrew store, so there's that.

Anyway, a craft bar in LG would have to do some bango business if anyone wants to fund a start-up for me.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on August 01, 2013, 06:10:31 PM
They do have a nice homebrew store, so there's that.

Anyway, a craft bar in LG would have to do some bango business if anyone wants to fund a start-up for me.

Sugar Shack
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on August 01, 2013, 06:50:56 PM
Sugar Shack

Yeah, just turn the downstairs into a nice bar with seating. Leave the upstairs alone for when ZFB and 4ever ditch their families and meet for the night.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on August 08, 2013, 06:15:20 AM
Anyone else headed to the Peoples Republic of Madison this weekend?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 08, 2013, 09:17:54 AM
Anyone else headed to the Peoples Republic of Madison this weekend?

Me, if I can manage to find some tickets between now and 1pm Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Funky Cold Medina on August 08, 2013, 04:57:22 PM
Anyone else headed to the Peoples Republic of Madison this weekend?

Ticket in hand for my 1st Great Taste.  Heading there tomorrow evening to catch one or a few of the pre-parties/beer tastings.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 08, 2013, 05:17:07 PM
Ticket in hand for my 1st Great Taste.  Heading there tomorrow evening to catch one or a few of the pre-parties/beer tastings.

Anywhere in particular?  If not, I can recommend a spot...
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 09, 2013, 07:46:50 AM
Chili, what time are you guys going to be opening your stuff at Madison's?  Any idea when the BCS will hit the taps? :-D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Funky Cold Medina on August 09, 2013, 10:00:37 AM
Anywhere in particular?  If not, I can recommend a spot...

Recommendations are always welcomed.  Madison's and Maduro Cigar Bar have been discussed in the group so far.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 09, 2013, 10:19:13 AM
Recommendations are always welcomed.  Madison's and Maduro Cigar Bar have been discussed in the group so far.

Both great choices.  I assume you've been to the greattaste.org website to check out which breweries are going to be at each place.  Madison's won't have food... I think it is just a martini bar.  Maduro is pretty hip.

Personally, I am going to check out the Three Floyd's specialties at Argus (near the square).  Depending on what Chili says regarding the CBS releases I may stop over at Madisons for a beer (I've had most of the others they have listed).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Funky Cold Medina on August 09, 2013, 10:46:42 AM
Both great choices.  I assume you've been to the greattaste.org website to check out which breweries are going to be at each place.  Madison's won't have food... I think it is just a martini bar.  Maduro is pretty hip.

Personally, I am going to check out the Three Floyd's specialties at Argus (near the square).  Depending on what Chili says regarding the CBS releases I may stop over at Madisons for a beer (I've had most of the others they have listed).

Safe assumption to make.  So many choices with so little time.  Argus has been tossed into the ring of potentials. 

This adventure I'll be more of a tourist with my buddy being the guide.  He is the "beer geek" and I drink whatever is in front of me.  I'm learning though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 09, 2013, 06:36:58 PM
I'm at Argus right now.  Having a "in the name of suffering" by 3f.   Its amazing.  Bipa... But would be awesome in a bourbon or brandy barrel for a while.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 09, 2013, 08:58:37 PM
Also I will no longer be wearing an MU t shirt.  I was comped a 6 pack by my liquor store so I am wearing their shirt... Trixies!
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on August 11, 2013, 09:07:09 AM
Well I drank entirely too much.  From Goose I managed (went early) to have a Buffalo Tase (sp?) BCS, and I did a flight of the Haila (sp?) peach barrels and bugs... which was interesting.

I can't say what my favorite beer from yesterday was, but its interesting to note that almost every major brewery had a barrel aged beer.  After a while they all start to taste the same because the flavor from the barrels is so overpowering.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on September 09, 2013, 02:06:10 PM
I received a bottle of Chocolate Covered Beaver Nuts (chocolate peanut butter imperial stout) from a friend that got it from the batch made by this guy in the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpwytsrrkBc&list=TL1skLoTPUmA8

Holy cow was this good and you couldn't taste that it was 9.3%abv, I didn't think it sounded good but was I wrong. I've already ordered the powdered peanut butter online to make my own batch of this.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on September 18, 2013, 07:42:32 PM
http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2013/09/founders_mango_magnifico_wins.html#incart_river_default

Tried it at the brewery, not my thing.   Not a good aroma.   The flavor didn't appeal to me.   Habanero dominated the flavor.  It burned all of the way down.    But to each their own, I guess. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 18, 2013, 10:33:19 PM
http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2013/09/founders_mango_magnifico_wins.html#incart_river_default

Tried it at the brewery, not my thing.   Not a good aroma.   The flavor didn't appeal to me.   Habanero dominated the flavor.  It burned all of the way down.    But to each their own, I guess. 

Had it at Great Taste - not good. Haven't really been impressed with this series from Founders like I thought I would be.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on September 19, 2013, 08:19:37 AM
Spent a bit of time in the City last weekend for Riotfest, got connected with an old love of mine, Daisy Cutter. The only Pale I like more than Daisy Cutter is Sierra Nevada. Also tried out a bunch at Half Acre's tap room. Akari Shogun was a nice taste with a subdued wheat. Space, their IPA was also fantastic. I really hope HC expands outside of Cook County.

In the fridge I have two 1/4 barrels of Fixed Gear and Really Cool Waterslides IPA. Picked up New Glarus' Staghorn, very good Octoberfest. I have Revolution's Octoberfest sitting next to it, not nearly as good. A bit boring actually.

For some reason, I decided to try MKE Brewing again and picked up a 6-pack of Pull Chain. God it sucks, if anyone wants a holiday 5-pack of this crap I'll give it to you.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on September 19, 2013, 03:29:36 PM
By state.

http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/americas-50-best-craft-breweries-state-by-state?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social+&utm_content=pages&utm_campaign=thrillist
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 19, 2013, 06:07:06 PM
By state.

http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/americas-50-best-craft-breweries-state-by-state?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social+&utm_content=pages&utm_campaign=thrillist


Aaaaaand the quest to go to every one of these breweries has begun.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on September 19, 2013, 06:12:49 PM

Aaaaaand the quest to go to every one of these breweries has begun.

I have been to Surly only 49 to go.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on September 19, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
I've been to every brewery in Wisconsin, and they picked correctly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on September 19, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
I would drink Central Waters all day before New Glarus...

I've been to every brewery in Wisconsin, and they picked correctly.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 20, 2013, 07:39:51 AM
Just like I'd drink Lake Louie, and Ale Asylum before New Glarus.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 20, 2013, 08:32:22 AM
Seriously, you think there are other breweries better than New Glarus? Their Thumbprint series on top of Moon Man, Edel Pils, Staghorn are the best beers made in WI. Granted the CW Barrel Aged Program makes some great beers, New Glarus as a whole is tops.

It's also BS they kept us (Goose Island) out bc of our owner. I still firmly say the beers coming out of our Fulton St. Brewery here in Chicago are the best in IL and some of the best in the world.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on September 20, 2013, 09:27:07 AM
Correct, New Glarus puts out some great stuff, most people just know them for Spotted Cow and Fat Squirrel, and while that stuff is good, the Thumbprint series really puts it in a class above the rest.

Plus I interpreted the article as being about the breweries themselves, not just the beer, and if you've ever been to the (new) New Glarus Brewery, built in the last 5 years, its amazing. Its a craft beer mecca. You could literally spend a whole day there.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on September 20, 2013, 09:28:47 AM
Correct, New Glarus puts out some great stuff, most people just know them for Spotted Cow and Fat Squirrel, and while that stuff is good, the Thumbprint series really puts it in a class above the rest.

Plus I interpreted the article as being about the breweries themselves, not just the beer, and if you've ever been to the (new) New Glarus Brewery, built in the last 5 years, its amazing. Its a craft beer mecca. You could literally spend a whole day there.



+1
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on September 20, 2013, 09:35:06 AM
Spent a bit of time in the City last weekend for Riotfest, got connected with an old love of mine, Daisy Cutter. The only Pale I like more than Daisy Cutter is Zombie Dust. Also tried out a bunch at Half Acre's tap room. Akari Shogun was a nice taste with a subdued wheat. Space, their IPA was also fantastic. I really hope HC expands outside of Cook County.

In the fridge I have two 1/4 barrels of Fixed Gear and Really Cool Waterslides IPA. Picked up New Glarus' Staghorn, very good Octoberfest. I have Revolution's Octoberfest sitting next to it, not nearly as good. A bit boring actually.

For some reason, I decided to try MKE Brewing again and picked up a 6-pack of Pull Chain. God it sucks, if anyone wants a holiday 5-pack of this crap I'll give it to you.

I'm a Chi resident, and Daisy Cutter is good stuff, but I hate it out of a can, and they are really pushing that hard in grocery stores. It just tastes metallic to me. But its great on tap. Its one of the few beers whose taste brings me directly to memories of the first times I drank it in grad school. Its like time traveling.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Sunbelt15 on September 20, 2013, 09:49:39 AM
What the hell is in Samuel Adams. My buddy had one and developed a serious BONER! He had it so long, we kicked his a$$ out of the man-cave. Glad I don't drink anymore (Thank you Milwaukee's Best).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: MU B2002 on September 20, 2013, 09:55:27 AM
They are now the US distributor of 3 Penis Wine. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on September 20, 2013, 10:12:22 AM
Correct, New Glarus puts out some great stuff, most people just know them for Spotted Cow and Fat Squirrel, and while that stuff is good, the Thumbprint series really puts it in a class above the rest.

the Fat Squirrel is now extinct
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on September 20, 2013, 10:13:30 AM
the Fat Squirrel is now extinct

Sad.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 20, 2013, 01:41:27 PM
I'm a Chi resident, and Daisy Cutter is good stuff, but I hate it out of a can, and they are really pushing that hard in grocery stores. It just tastes metallic to me. But its great on tap. Its one of the few beers whose taste brings me directly to memories of the first times I drank it in grad school. Its like time traveling.

If you're a beer connoisseur, (I assume you are since you participate in this thread) and you drink from the can or from the bottle, allow me give you this coupon... Of course redeemable if I ever see you in person.  If you do a side by side of bottles vs cans poured into a glass, I doubt you can tell the difference.

(http://forum.maplewoodonline.com/uploads/2008/06/Bitch%20Slap%20Coupon.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on September 20, 2013, 02:27:38 PM


It's also BS they kept us (Goose Island) out bc of our owner. I still firmly say the beers coming out of our Fulton St. Brewery here in Chicago are the best in IL and some of the best in the world.

Just curious, how many barrels do you put out a year?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 20, 2013, 02:31:46 PM
Seriously, you think there are other breweries better than New Glarus? Their Thumbprint series on top of Moon Man, Edel Pils, Staghorn are the best beers made in WI. Granted the CW Barrel Aged Program makes some great beers, New Glarus as a whole is tops.

It's also BS they kept us (Goose Island) out bc of our owner. I still firmly say the beers coming out of our Fulton St. Brewery here in Chicago are the best in IL and some of the best in the world.

While I can appreciate what New Glarus does, it is over saturation for me.  I see it all the time, and everyone has it on tap.  It isn't special.  Sure they make a lot of great beers, but they're established and haven't done a whole lot of experimentation lately.  Their thumbprint stuff was great the first year, but now it is just a seasonal thing rather than one offs.  Their beer is quite good, but its gone stale for me since I live about 20 miles from NG.

http://www.businessinsider.com/experts-pick-best-beers-in-the-world-2013-9

This should make you feel better.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on September 20, 2013, 02:42:53 PM
I'm a Chi resident, and Daisy Cutter is good stuff, but I hate it out of a can, and they are really pushing that hard in grocery stores. It just tastes metallic to me. But its great on tap. Its one of the few beers whose taste brings me directly to memories of the first times I drank it in grad school. Its like time traveling.

Well, the can is just a 1/124th scale model of a 1/2 barrel. Pour that tasty goodness into a glass.

Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on September 20, 2013, 02:51:19 PM


http://www.businessinsider.com/experts-pick-best-beers-in-the-world-2013-9

This should make you feel better.

Surly Fest is tomorrow and cannot wait for Darkness next month.

http://www.surlybrewing.com/eventsblog/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 20, 2013, 07:55:26 PM
Just curious, how many barrels do you put out a year?

Out of our Chicago brewery, about 80k barrels.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on September 20, 2013, 08:06:06 PM
Out of our Chicago brewery, about 80k barrels.

Is anything made at the Wrigleyville brewery? Or is that just for show?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on September 20, 2013, 08:07:35 PM
If you're a beer connoisseur, (I assume you are since you participate in this thread) and you drink from the can or from the bottle, allow me give you this coupon... Of course redeemable if I ever see you in person.  If you do a side by side of bottles vs cans poured into a glass, I doubt you can tell the difference.

(http://forum.maplewoodonline.com/uploads/2008/06/Bitch%20Slap%20Coupon.jpg)

I know you're just messing around, but I'm confused. What's wrong with drinking from a can when its how they serve it at a bar? Am I really supposed to be that guy who asks for a glass?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 20, 2013, 08:46:57 PM
Is anything made at the Wrigleyville brewery? Or is that just for show?

15 Barrel System - it's a brewpub, not a production brewery. The beer brewed their is either sold at Wrigleyville or Clybourn.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 20, 2013, 08:48:56 PM
I know you're just messing around, but I'm confused. What's wrong with drinking from a can when its how they serve it at a bar? Am I really supposed to be that guy who asks for a glass?

When you drink from a can you will smell metal which will give beer a metal taste. Aroma is a HUGE part of beer. Also, beer in a bottle or can is at a higher CO2 than draft and needs to be poured out in order to release some excess carbonation. That is why canned and bottle beer makes you feel more bloated if you drink it without pouring it in a glass.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on September 20, 2013, 09:22:06 PM
When you drink from a can you will smell metal which will give beer a metal taste. Aroma is a HUGE part of beer. Also, beer in a bottle or can is at a higher CO2 than draft and needs to be poured out in order to release some excess carbonation. That is why canned and bottle beer makes you feel more bloated if you drink it without pouring it in a glass.

Interesting. Didn't know all that. Especially the co2 bit
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jimmy B is the Man on September 21, 2013, 12:45:18 AM
While I can appreciate what New Glarus does, it is over saturation for me.  I see it all the time, and everyone has it on tap.  It isn't special.  Sure they make a lot of great beers, but they're established and haven't done a whole lot of experimentation lately.  Their thumbprint stuff was great the first year, but now it is just a seasonal thing rather than one offs.  Their beer is quite good, but its gone stale for me since I live about 20 miles from NG.

http://www.businessinsider.com/experts-pick-best-beers-in-the-world-2013-9

This should make you feel better.

I think their experimentation and quality one-offs have been off the charts lately.  In the last few months their thumbprints have included a Berliner Weiss (best berliner I've ever had) and a Wild Sour Ale (first time New Glarus has made this beer, and fantastic... my favorite american sour outside of Russian River), in addition to the Very Sour Blackberry Ale they just released, and the 20th Anniversary Strong Ale, AND the Strawberry Rhubarb fruit beer. What other breweries have released this many new, diverse products over a few month span?

Their new sour barrel room was recently completed and we are finally starting reap the rewards. The Wild Sour Ale was brewed almost 3 years ago if I recall correctly... so I'm very excited to see what else they having coming down the pipeline. I wouldn't be surprised if they developed into the 'Russian River of the Midwest' in regards to sours.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 21, 2013, 08:20:23 AM
I think their experimentation and quality one-offs have been off the charts lately.  In the last few months their thumbprints have included a Berliner Weiss (best berliner I've ever had) and a Wild Sour Ale (first time New Glarus has made this beer, and fantastic... my favorite american sour outside of Russian River), in addition to the Very Sour Blackberry Ale they just released, and the 20th Anniversary Strong Ale, AND the Strawberry Rhubarb fruit beer. What other breweries have released this many new, diverse products over a few month span?

Their new sour barrel room was recently completed and we are finally starting reap the rewards. The Wild Sour Ale was brewed almost 3 years ago if I recall correctly... so I'm very excited to see what else they having coming down the pipeline. I wouldn't be surprised if they developed into the 'Russian River of the Midwest' in regards to sours.

The Berliner was great and the addition of grape skins was extremely smart but to call them a possible RR of the MW, no way. And if you think their sours are good I would love to invite you try any of the Goose Island 3 current sisters (Lolita, Juliet & Madam Rose) plus we are releasing 2 other new sisters next month too. I would put our sours against anyone's and they can hold their own. We are continuing to grow the nations oldest and largest barrel aging program.

Another brewery to look at is Perennial in St. Louis, their Berliner was ridiculous.

All that said, Russian River sours are still the sheeet! 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Jimmy B is the Man on September 21, 2013, 10:27:03 AM
The Berliner was great and the addition of grape skins was extremely smart but to call them a possible RR of the MW, no way. And if you think their sours are good I would love to invite you try any of the Goose Island 3 current sisters (Lolita, Juliet & Madam Rose) plus we are releasing 2 other new sisters next month too. I would put our sours against anyone's and they can hold their own. We are continuing to grow the nations oldest and largest barrel aging program.

Another brewery to look at is Perennial in St. Louis, their Berliner was ridiculous.

All that said, Russian River sours are still the sheeet!  

You are absolutely correct, I don't believe NG deserves the title of 'RR of the MW' right now. I'm simply hoping their new sour barrel room will develop that reputation for them eventually. The sour wild ale they just released was great and [I hope] a sign of much more to come.

I will have to grab a bottle of those 3 you mentioned. The last GI Belgian I had was Sofie I believe... and I'm not a huge fan of Brett so I've stayed away from the others... but those 3 you mentioned sound great. I wish you guys would put a better description than "Belgian Style Ale" on the front, it makes it hard to distinguish between the Belgian Pale Ale/Farmhouse Ales (which I don't like), and the Sours/Flanders (which I love).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on September 21, 2013, 10:45:16 AM
You are absolutely correct, I don't believe NG deserves the title of 'RR of the MW' right now. I'm simply hoping their new sour barrel room will develop that reputation for them eventually. The sour wild ale they just released was great and [I hope] a sign of much more to come.

I will have to grab a bottle of those 3 you mentioned. The last GI Belgian I had was Sofie I believe... and I'm not a huge fan of Brett so I've stayed away from the others... but those 3 you mentioned sound great. I wish you guys would put a better description than "Belgian Style Ale" on the front, it makes it hard to distinguish between the Belgian Pale Ale/Farmhouse Ales (which I don't like), and the Sours/Flanders (which I love).

We changed the labels last year to say the style.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on September 21, 2013, 12:28:52 PM
We changed the labels last year to say the style.  ;D

It was a nice move as I had the same complaint.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 23, 2013, 10:36:30 AM
When you drink from a can you will smell metal which will give beer a metal taste. Aroma is a HUGE part of beer. Also, beer in a bottle or can is at a higher CO2 than draft and needs to be poured out in order to release some excess carbonation. That is why canned and bottle beer makes you feel more bloated if you drink it without pouring it in a glass.

^ Also, as I've mentioned, the taste profile of a can pour is closer to a draft pour than a bottle.  A good portion of this is because there is no UV degradation in cans, so they can't skunk.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 23, 2013, 10:37:15 AM
We changed the labels last year to say the style.  ;D

The older labels were better looking, but I was never sure what I was getting until I opened it. :)
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on September 26, 2013, 06:41:21 PM
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Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on September 26, 2013, 08:40:37 PM
Chili,
You doing the Chicago Idea Week tour @ Goose?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on October 09, 2013, 04:05:17 PM
Picked up a couple of specials at Binny's last night.

3 Floyds Broodoo and Pipeworks Glaucus.

Never found any Pipeworks this far north, excited for that.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on November 05, 2013, 01:21:42 PM
making a trip to the Stevens Point area to attend the O'so 6th birthday bash Saturday and figured we'd also check out tours at Central Waters and the Point Brewery (might as well we had time to kill)

anything else worth seeing up that-a-way?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on November 05, 2013, 02:22:59 PM
making a trip to the Stevens Point area to attend the O'so 6th birthday bash Saturday and figured we'd also check out tours at Central Waters and the Point Brewery (might as well we had time to kill)

anything else worth seeing up that-a-way?

Point is definitely worth seeing. Its a nice tour.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: damuts222 on November 05, 2013, 02:23:50 PM
Anyone going to Beer Hoptacular in Chicago this weekend?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on November 06, 2013, 08:32:42 AM
On my way to New Orleans for a long wekend.  Any local breweries worth checking out?  (I have an all afternoon "mixology" demo one day which should be interesting, too).
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 06, 2013, 03:20:41 PM
On my way to New Orleans for a long wekend.  Any local breweries worth checking out?  (I have an all afternoon "mixology" demo one day which should be interesting, too).

If you're willing to drive 30 miles, Abita is a possibilty.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on November 07, 2013, 07:46:33 AM
Thanks, Hards.  Won't be able to make that drive, but I'll look for it locally. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on November 08, 2013, 08:16:29 AM
Thanks, Hards.  Won't be able to make that drive, but I'll look for it locally. 

Had an Abita Restoration Ale last night.  Not too distinctive, but much better than the Buffalo Trace, basil and ginger ale concoction I made the mistake of trying (my fault).  The craft cocktail movement has jumped the shark.  Back to Manhattans.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 08, 2013, 05:06:12 PM
Meijer stores in the area now have microbrews priced by the bottle.   You can go pick up 6 microbrews from 6 different brewers, put them in a carton, and pay the combined bottle price.   So, pick a Founders, Breckenridge Porter, New Glarus, Mt. Pleasant, Arcadia, and Bell's.   Take the 6 different flavors home.     Mmmmmmmmmmmm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 08, 2013, 06:12:27 PM
Meijer stores in the area now have microbrews priced by the bottle.   You can go pick up 6 microbrews from 6 different brewers, put them in a carton, and pay the combined bottle price.   So, pick a Founders, Breckenridge Porter, New Glarus, Mt. Pleasant, Arcadia, and Bell's.   Take the 6 different flavors home.     Mmmmmmmmmmmm.


Ooooo I heard they have this new thing coming out called Super Nintendo too!

But for real, they've had these mix and matchers in WI for almost a decade.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 08, 2013, 06:14:53 PM
 I'm jealous.   New to Michigan.   I HAVE mixed and matched at Founder's and Bell's, but doing at a grocery with a wide palette of microbrews is new here. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on November 08, 2013, 11:59:07 PM
I'm jealous.   New to Michigan.   I HAVE mixed and matched at Founder's and Bell's, but doing at a grocery with a wide palette of microbrews is new here.  

They have New Glarus in MI?


Highly recommend Dark Horse Brewery out of Marshall, MI
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on November 11, 2013, 12:28:14 PM
We went to the O’so Brewing 6th birthday bash/fundraiser for Toys for Tots on Saturday. Their taproom has 40 taps and for this they brought out special batches and used all 40. We got through all the ones we wanted to. some of the best IMO were the Barrel aged Spikes, Brett Dank, Hot Train, the Bourbon Night Trains and Barrel aged Kartoffel. The Spikes are interesting as they are not brewed with any water but with maple sap (not syrup) in place of water and they were good, I was surprised I liked them but the barrel one was fantastic.

On Nitro
Vanilla Coffee Night Train – Night Train infused with locally roasted coffee and vanilla beans
Rusty Red

Randall (DFH introduced a device in 2003 called Randall the Enamel Animal, an organoleptic hop transduced module which ‘Randallizes’ a beer by passing through a large plastic tube filled with a flavor enhancer, often raw hops or fruit or coffees beans)

The Big O – wheat ale served though a mystery fruit

Seasonals

Dank 2012 – Winter imperial Red ale aged on a blend of French & American Brandied oak
Spikes Maple 2011 – (Thaw) beer brewed with maple sap in place of water and aged on toasted maple chips

Special (these are beers that we may never brew again

Imperial Black Scotch – Scotch ale brewed big and dark with a hint of smoke
Ya-da-sun Weizen – Decoction mashed, Classic Hefe
Black my eyes, double black IPA
Kartoffel Bock – Potato Maibock brewed for Beer Geeks TV
The Hammer – White cedar aged Imperial Blonde brewed for Aleman in Chicago
Hot Train – Night Train infused with Sweet Datil Peppers
Vanilla Lupulin – 2012 Lupulin Maximus infused with Vanilla beans

Bourbon Aged

Bourbon Night Train 2011 – Straight Night Train aged in Heaven Hill barrels
Bourbon Night Train 2012 – same as above different year
Barrel aged Imperial Scotch Ale – Scotch ale aged in Rye barrels
Barrel aged Kartoffel Bock – Beer Geeks TV Potato Maibock aged in Rye barrels
Barrel aged Dominator – Huge Doppelbock aged in Bernheim Wheat whiskey barrels
Barrel aged Spikes – Spikes Maple aged in Elijah Craig barrels

Funky (These beers all spent time in wood barrels that were inoculated with wild yeasts at different stages of development

Grand Cru – this funky Belgian has been growing at O’so for some time
Brett’n Red – Rusty Red aged on Brett Brux
Brett’n Dinger – Hopdinger refermented with Brett Brux
Rusty Wood – Rusty Red aged in used bourbon barrels
Brett Dank – Dank Imperial Red aged in Brettanomyces barrels
Faster Than Dawn – Night Train aged in our Wee on the Lam barrels
Brett Dominator – Doppelbock aged in, what the hell, why not?
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on November 18, 2013, 04:59:21 PM
Summer Shandy.

https://newblog.beerhunt.com/index.php/the-most-popular-beer-in-each-state-of-the-usa-listed/
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 27, 2013, 07:19:34 PM
First mix n match dream 6 pack.   Atwater Java Porter, New Holland Dragon's Milk, Bell's Winter White, Founder' IPA and Porter, Fat Tire Ale.  Mmmmmmmmmmm.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on November 27, 2013, 08:50:46 PM
Still mesmerized by Three Floyd's Dreadnaught every time I drink it - had one to get over the first half of the ASU game. 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 28, 2013, 01:19:59 PM
I'm doing some shopping on Black Friday...

BCBS, and hopefully I land some Rye, BW, and coffee from the drawing I am in.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on November 28, 2013, 09:09:20 PM
In Wi for Thanksgiving, so get to bring home some New Glarus products.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Bocephys on November 29, 2013, 10:52:59 AM
I grabbed some of the Lakefront Black Friday Ale this morning. Haven't tried it yet, though.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Chili on November 29, 2013, 07:49:09 PM
Had a great day beer hunting today in Chicago picking up a few of all of the Goose Island Black Friday releases. Some regular, coffee, barleywine, backyard rye and coconut. Now time to watch hoops on TV.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: jtrash37 on November 29, 2013, 09:03:30 PM
Uncle Mikes in Kenosha on Highway 50 does a Black Friday brewfest. 

Listed beers (last year they snuck in some extras, which were fantastic):

Founders KBS, Founders Imperial Stout, Bell's Black Note, Goose Island Big John, Goose Island Bourbon County Coffee, and Goose Island Night Stalker 2009 and 2010
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: madtownwarrior on November 29, 2013, 09:28:08 PM
Anybody try Bernies Tap Room in downtown Waukesha?  Nice place, great beer selection on tap.   Founders Oatmeal Stout, Three Floyd's Alpha King, Ale Asylum Action Jackson among many other good stouts and IPA's.  highly recommended... 
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on December 05, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
Enjoying my first Three Floyd's Arctic Panzer Wolf imperial India Pale Ale. Damn.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on December 05, 2013, 07:24:56 PM
Enjoying my first Three Floyd's Arctic Panzer Wolf imperial India Pale Ale. Damn.

Hell of a name
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on December 05, 2013, 08:12:16 PM
Enjoying my first Three Floyd's Arctic Panzer Wolf imperial India Pale Ale. Damn.

I actually have one of those in my fridge, maybe I'll open it for Wisconsin.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on December 05, 2013, 08:49:32 PM
Good call. And I am reminded, again, as this thread demonstrates, that we are so lucky to be living in the golden age if brewing.  Before going to the bull/heat game (I can't tell you how unexcited I am for this game), I wound up at two establishments with phenomenal beer and pub food (Lone Wolf and Haymarket Pub & Brewery, across the street from each other with another dozen places with similar selections within walking distance).  I love me some Rhinelander returnable bottles back in the day, but only b/c I was ignorant if te possibilities.  
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on December 05, 2013, 09:52:30 PM
Well, based on the first half, I couldn't have been more wrong. Miami is currently a one an team.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: PTM on December 06, 2013, 08:49:13 AM
Been awhile since I did a recent beer post.

Threw a 1/2 bbl of Half Acre Daisy Cutter and a 1/4 bbl of Spotted Cow in the kegerator two weeks ago. If you've never had Daisy Cutter, highly recommended when in Chicagoland.

Other tastings:

Green Bullt Triple IPA by Green Flash Brewing. - Had at Uncle Mike's. Lots of fragrance, sweet malt and tart hops, decent carbonation, lots of grapefruit. It's a solid IPA, not a favorite.

Bitter Woman IPA by Tyranena - Also at Uncle Mike's. Coworker said he tried it and wasn't good. I've always heard good things, so tried it. It's not that good.

Pull Chain Pale Ale by MKE Brewing - One of the worst pale's I've ever tried. Just bland and thin.

Serendipity by New Glarus -Not usually my style, but it is very good. All three fruits can be tasted nicely. Little too much carbonation, but goes with the style.

Ninja v. Unicorn by Pipeworks - Outstanding and now one of my favorite IPAs. Great mix of floral and citrus and not a mouth killer.

ESB by Redhook - Meh. It's an alright ESB that's true to the style. Pretty boring.

Celebration Ale by Sierra Nevada - Great seasonal that's perfect for winter.
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Coleman on December 06, 2013, 10:22:05 AM
Discovered a pretty good beer video podcast on iTunes..."The Beer Temple"
Title: Re: The Beer Thread
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on December 06, 2013, 11:37:17 AM
From Dogfish Head's website:
 
We’re happy to share that beer is on the way to our first few wholesalers in the state of Wisconsin! Yesterday, Sam waved goodbye to the first truck to head to the state in more than two years. The truck was stocked with 90 Minute IPA, Indian Brown Ale, Midas Touch, Palo Santo Marron, Burton Baton, Tweason’ale, 75 Minute IPA, Namaste, Hellhound On My Ale, Sah’Tea, Theobroma and Kvasir.
The first wholesalers to be appointed in Wisconsin are Frank Beer in Madison, La Crosse Beverage of La Crosse, Kay Distributing in De Pere/Green Bay and Lee Beverage in Oshkosh and Eau Claire. Additional Wisconsin wholesalers are expected to be finalized in the coming weeks.
In addition to shipping the beer, some of our folks will be shipping out next week for launch events. We’ll be pouring our off-centered ales and sharing our beer-infused brats at events in Lacrosse, De Pere, Madison, Oshkosh and hopefully at least one more happening spot. For details on all our Wisconsin launch events as they are added, keep an eye on the Events page of our website.
- See more at: http://www.dogfish.com/community/