Tiger Woods 2023 Schedule is out
The Big Cat will be the playing 6 events . On a month starting February .
Genesis Open
Players Championship
Masters
PGA
US Open
The Open Championship
Padraig Harrington thinks Tiger still has one more major in him. Tigers body is bad for sure . However , If the Weather is good all 4 days and Tiger has a good putting week it could happen.
https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/tiger-woods-schedule-2023-more-events-expected-but-competitiveness-questionable-amid-ongoing-recovery/amp/
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 28, 2022, 08:09:10 AM
Tiger Woods 2023 Schedule is out
The Big Cat will be the playing 6 events . On a month starting February .
Genesis Open
Players Championship
Masters
PGA
US Open
The Open Championship
Padraig Harrington thinks Tiger still has one more major in him. Tigers body is bad for sure . However , If the Weather is good all 4 days and Tiger has a good putting week it could happen.
https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/tiger-woods-schedule-2023-more-events-expected-but-competitiveness-questionable-amid-ongoing-recovery/amp/
O/U on events played is 2.5
I watched him walk at the PNC. He still has miles to go before he can string together multiple competitive rounds together while walking the course.
I think it's time to celebrate him just making the cut.
Such a fun career to watch. Second best player ever in my book. Personal crap aside, he was awesome.
The 2019 Masters win was magical and we shouldn't diminish it by looking for the next one.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 28, 2022, 08:56:39 AM
I think it's time to celebrate him just making the cut.
Such a fun career to watch. Second best player ever in my book. Personal crap aside, he was awesome.
He won't catch Jack on majors because of his injuries, but in his prime he was the best ever and imo it't not even close.
Comparing athletes across generations is a silly exercise but seeing the struggles of Woods to handle daily life activities should bring more people to learn about the ridiculous accomplishments of William Ben Hogan.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on December 28, 2022, 10:58:22 AM
Comparing athletes across generations is a silly exercise but seeing the struggles of Woods to handle daily life activities should bring more people to learn about the ridiculous accomplishments of William Ben Hogan.
Agreed.
And Jack, by his own choice, placed more emphasis on his family compared to his golf game than Tiger did.
I'm not saying one is right and the other is wrong.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 28, 2022, 12:53:58 PM
Agreed.
And Jack, by his own choice, placed more emphasis on his family compared to his golf game than Tiger did.
I'm not saying one is right and the other is wrong.
Lol. Jack anything.
Young Tom Morris would have kicked everyone's ass.
Doing the Scotland trip with pops for his 60th this year.
Any recommendations for courses, ideally looking for a good mix of cheaper (£50-£100) courses and the obvious Open Championship caliber places.
Extremely open ended question. Where are you basing yourself in Scotland?
Quote from: Retire0 on December 28, 2022, 01:03:21 PM
Extremely open ended question. Where are you basing yourself in Scotland?
It's all very preliminary planning. The only thing I know forsure is it'll be September-ish and we're going to rent a car.
Happy to fly into Aberdeen, Glasgow, or Edinburgh, whichever gets the most bang for our buck. Obviously would love to play The Old Course but also realize that it's highly unlikely.
My recommendation, home base yourself in St. Andrews. Check with hotels for tee times, might be lucky there if you stay there. After that the ballot process, then walk-ups the morning of are possible if you're in town. Even if you're not in town, walk the Old Course on Sunday. Of course Eden/Jubilee is a bit easier to get on as well, if you can't play the Old Course, play next to it.
From St. Andrews, other courses that are easily reachable on my list are Crail, Carnoustie, Elie, Panmure, maybe Kingsbarns.
Wife setup trip to The Open for my 40th back in 2006 when Tiger won at Royal Liverpool. Audibled and skipped Open but played New Course at St Andrews, walked Old Course on Sunday, ate lunch at Tom Morris Bar and Grill overlooking the Old Course, and hit the Jigger Inn next to the Road hole where you can watch folks play Road Hole. St. Andrews is great but two days is plenty.
Decided to skip Rotunda courses because figured there would be time in future for guys trip. We drove coast counterclockwise and stopped in Carnoustie, Aberdeen, and a few other spots. Golfed at Cruden Bay twice which was great and a couple other courses. Highlight was playing Royal Dornoch up north which is where Donald Ross learned his trade. You can hit the Whiskey trail along the way as well. In the north you can also see the Culloden Battlefields and William Wallace Monument....
Also hit Edinburgh which has a lot of great history as well.
Lots of great choices no matter what routes you take.
https://www.news9live.com/sports/golf/jon-rahm-expects-tense-masters-champions-dinner-amid-liv-golf-feud-218004
Got an email saying the Lido is open for guests at Sand Valley starting at the end of June
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 05, 2023, 11:28:35 AM
Got an email saying the Lido is open for guests at Sand Valley starting at the end of June
Guests with 2023 reservations
Rico
That is a very nice invite. Like many on here, I have heard fantastic reviews.
Quote from: Goose on January 05, 2023, 05:05:39 PM
Rico
That is a very nice invite. Like many on here, I have heard fantastic reviews.
Hoping to get on it. Waiting for a call back
I've a good friend mine that thinks he is going to get a firm invite to Jordan's track. I think he might be victim of wishful thinking, but pulling for him.
Quote from: Goose on January 05, 2023, 05:11:20 PM
I've a good friend mine that thinks he is going to get a firm invite to Jordan's track. I think he might be victim of wishful thinking, but pulling for him.
I love that he built a course because he wanted more privacy and less slow play
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 05, 2023, 05:17:14 PM
I love that he built a course because he wanted more privacy and less slow play
I'm just stunned he didn't built it on/near/adjacent to Native American land so he could also include a personal private casino.
Quote from: JWags85 on January 05, 2023, 05:28:01 PM
I'm just stunned he didn't built it on/near/adjacent to Native American land so he could also include a personal private casino.
I'm sure the level of gambling taking place their is on the scale of Vegas
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 05, 2023, 03:18:55 PM
That's me!
Nice! I'm planning a big 2024 trip to include Sedge.
I did just get an invite to join a group on 7/30, but we will see. After the Chicago Finance Bro incident over the summer, I do not want to get on the Keiser's bad side and show up as a non-resort guest.
Goose
Awesome on Grove XXIII. 35 MPH carts and food/bev drones has to be an experience. There's a podcast out there that detailed how the clubhouse was built too low due to a grade bust and Bobby Weed has to redesign a lot of the course to figure out drainage.
Retire
Unfortunately it is not me hoping for the Grove invite, but hoping my buddy lands the invite. I love everything I have heard about it and I am a long time Jordan groupie which adds to the mystique.
Big golf trip for me and some MU buddies. Going to Bandon Dunes March 29-April 2nd and then flying straight from Eugene on the 2nd to Augusta for the Monday practice round. Gonna be a hell of a week
Oh, it's also final four weekend and championship Monday so it could get even sweeter!!
Quote from: swoopem on January 06, 2023, 07:23:30 AM
Big golf trip for me and some MU buddies. Going to Bandon Dunes March 29-April 2nd and then flying straight from Eugene on the 2nd to Augusta for the Monday practice round. Gonna be a hell of a week
Oh, it's also final four weekend and championship Monday so it could get even sweeter!!
I can't wait to get out to Bandon. Tentatively on the agenda in '24
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 06, 2023, 07:39:04 AM
I can't wait to get out to Bandon. Tentatively on the agenda in '24
One of the guys on the trip (Nova grad, my enemy) lived in Portland for 5 years and swears this is the best time to go. We saved major bucks by going March/April rather than peak summer
I'm still a little nervous it'll be in the 40s with rain and wind but that's the Midwesterner in me
Quote from: swoopem on January 06, 2023, 07:44:27 AM
One of the guys on the trip (Nova grad, my enemy) lived in Portland for 5 years and swears this is the best time to go. We saved major bucks by going March/April rather than peak summer
I'm still a little nervous it'll be in the 40s with rain and wind but that's the Midwesterner in me
I've had multiple people tell me early spring, too.
Gots me a tee time on The Lido
Anyone do club fittings in the Milwaukee area have any recommendations for fitting services?
PM Nads. Pretty sure he was fitted at one of them PGA stores like in the MKE airport, hey?
Orr check out Dicks. Dey karry all sizes, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 08, 2023, 10:19:50 AM
PM Nads. Pretty sure he was fitted at one of them PGA stores like in the MKE airport, hey?
Wut?
Morikawa with a collapse at the Sentry. Kapalua is not a course you expect to see someone cough up a big lead.
Quote from: RJax55 on January 08, 2023, 06:49:54 PM
Morikawa with a collapse at the Sentry. Kapalua is not a course you expect to see someone cough up a big lead.
+3 on 14-16 at Kapalua is Mickelson-esque on a Sunday at the US Open. Helps Team Europe's Ryder Cup cause
Good for Rahm. Rough for Morikawa.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 08, 2023, 09:51:00 AM
Anyone do club fittings in the Milwaukee area have any recommendations for fitting services?
I've heard good things about Jeff Kaiser out of Madison, but haven't heard much in the Milwaukee area. I'll reach out to a couple guys.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 06, 2023, 07:39:04 AM
I can't wait to get out to Bandon. Tentatively on the agenda in '24
Sounds like you have to.
Morikawa 9 shots up with 17 to play, loses by 2 or 3 to Rahm. Epic collapse.
First round in. 35 degrees, breezy.... glorious.
https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1613204217656741889?t=z9KrXJdr_d5qPc7UUGToJw&s=19
LIV golf is paying the CW to show their tournaments. That deal was not done in a Flash. And it is hardly showcasing the Legends of Tomorrow.
Quote from: tower912 on January 17, 2023, 04:27:16 PM
LIV golf is paying the CW to show their tournaments. That deal was not done in a Flash. And it is hardly showcasing the Legends of Tomorrow.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/2023/01/17/liv-golf-david-feherty-teases-potential-tv-deal-with-cw-network/69813369007/
Golfweek's Eamon Lynch's column on the LIV/CW deal:
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/01/20/eamon-lynch-liv-golf-tv-contract-cw-network-desperation/?env=
Given his talent for recasting excruciating humiliations as bold victories, it's surprising that Greg Norman doesn't present himself annually at the gate of Augusta National wearing a green jacket and insisting that what happened in 1996 — or '86, '87, '89 and '99 — was actually a triumph worthy of a place setting at the Champions Dinner.
"A momentous day for LIV Golf," is how Norman described his league's just-announced broadcast deal with The CW, the nation's 25th most-watched network, or 29th if you're chasing the 18-49 demographic who might be drawn to "golf, but louder." (To be fair, the CW's average viewer is 58, so they watch every show louder).
Alert to an opportunity to impress his boss, LIV's chief media officer, Will Staeger, conjured a version of events that would have even George Santos calling for narrative restraint.
"Following a competitive bidding window with multiple U.S. networks and streaming platforms, the sports story of 2022 has just moved into pole position for the top story of 2023," he wrote in a social media post.
Staeger's comment raises two questions for those among us predisposed to cynicism: did autocorrect change "begging" to "bidding," and how does a competitive process among multiple parties result in giving away the product for free to the worst-case option? ...
Just another golfer lying about his handicap.
Quote from: MU82 on January 23, 2023, 07:14:09 AM
Golfweek's Eamon Lynch's column on the LIV/CW deal:
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/01/20/eamon-lynch-liv-golf-tv-contract-cw-network-desperation/?env=
Given his talent for recasting excruciating humiliations as bold victories, it's surprising that Greg Norman doesn't present himself annually at the gate of Augusta National wearing a green jacket and insisting that what happened in 1996 — or '86, '87, '89 and '99 — was actually a triumph worthy of a place setting at the Champions Dinner.
"A momentous day for LIV Golf," is how Norman described his league's just-announced broadcast deal with The CW, the nation's 25th most-watched network, or 29th if you're chasing the 18-49 demographic who might be drawn to "golf, but louder." (To be fair, the CW's average viewer is 58, so they watch every show louder).
Alert to an opportunity to impress his boss, LIV's chief media officer, Will Staeger, conjured a version of events that would have even George Santos calling for narrative restraint.
"Following a competitive bidding window with multiple U.S. networks and streaming platforms, the sports story of 2022 has just moved into pole position for the top story of 2023," he wrote in a social media post.
Staeger's comment raises two questions for those among us predisposed to cynicism: did autocorrect change "begging" to "bidding," and how does a competitive process among multiple parties result in giving away the product for free to the worst-case option? ...
Here is another analysis on this media contract. Seems like a deal that helps both CW and LIV. Like a couple of homely people at bar closing time....
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-tv-deal-beall-2023
https://nypost.com/2023/01/24/liv-golfs-patrick-reed-throws-tee-at-rory-mcilroy-in-disgust-after-being-ignored/
Oh, Karen
https://www.aol.com/rory-mcilroy-defends-not-acknowledging-125440471.html
You can tell Rory is Irish.
Quote from: tower912 on January 25, 2023, 07:09:53 AM
https://nypost.com/2023/01/24/liv-golfs-patrick-reed-throws-tee-at-rory-mcilroy-in-disgust-after-being-ignored/
Oh, Karen
https://www.aol.com/rory-mcilroy-defends-not-acknowledging-125440471.html
You can tell Rory is Irish.
That's another lawsuit
I appreciate Patrick loudly and proudly confirming that he is indeed who he has been telling us he is.
Quote from: tower912 on January 23, 2023, 08:10:11 AM
Just another golfer lying about his handicap.
People who lie about their handicap these days are crazy. If you don't have the GHIN app or some other handicap tracking app what the hell are you doing? And it's always people trying to reverse sandbag themselves. Oh yeah I'm an 8, goes out and shoots 95
Quote from: swoopem on January 25, 2023, 07:42:26 AM
People who lie about their handicap these days are crazy. If you don't have the GHIN app or some other handicap tracking app what the hell are you doing? And it's always people trying to reverse sandbag themselves. Oh yeah I'm an 8, goes out and shoots 95
Can't sandbag if you stink anyway
McIlroy is great for golf (as is a little rancor between players occasionally), and I'll be rooting for him in every major this season.
The only thing in those articles that surprised me was McIlroy saying he was surprised him ignoring Reed was a story. By now, Rory surely knows how all this works.
Quote from: MU82 on January 25, 2023, 08:17:29 AM
McIlroy is great for golf (as is a little rancor between players occasionally), and I'll be rooting for him in every major this season.
The only thing in those articles that surprised me was McIlroy saying he was surprised him ignoring Reed was a story. By now, Rory surely knows how all this works.
Totallly agree. Just came here to say that non-LIV golf is very fortunate to have Rory right now. There would be a huge influence vaccuum without him.
I doubt that Faldo and Norman will be sitting down over a bottle of wine any time soon. Maybe at the Masters Champions dinner. Oh, wait...
Quote from: tower912 on January 27, 2023, 07:12:29 AM
I doubt that Faldo and Norman will be sitting down over a bottle of wine any time soon. Maybe at the Masters Champions dinner. Oh, wait...
Of all my favorite golf Sundays through the year, Faldo eviscerating Norman on that fateful April Sunday in 1996 remains my favorite
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 27, 2023, 08:26:03 AM
Of all my favorite golf Sundays through the year, Faldo eviscerating Norman on that fateful April Sunday in 1996 remains my favorite
One of my favorite memories of that Sunday was Faldo on 13. He took a long time to set up and then drilled a beautiful approach shot on the green.
What many forget , in all the hype about Norman collapse , is that Faldo put up a very strong final round 67 , which was the best round of the day . Faldo not backing down contributed in part to Norman blowing up .
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 27, 2023, 06:30:21 PM
One of my favorite memories of that Sunday was Faldo on 13. He took a long time to set up and then drilled a beautiful approach shot on the green.
What many forget , in all the hype about Norman collapse , is that Faldo put up a very strong final round 67 , which was the best round of the day . Faldo not backing down contributed in part to Norman blowing up .
Yup. He was a machine that day
aaron rodgers-ben silverman win the pebble beach pro-am
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 05, 2023, 02:42:37 PM
aaron rodgers-ben silverman win the pebble beach pro-am
https://www.wbal.com/article/602865/159/rodgers-takes-pro-am-at-pebble-as-rose-grabs-54-hole-lead/amp
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 05, 2023, 02:42:37 PM
aaron rodgers-ben silverman win the pebble beach pro-am
Let's hope this helps his trade value. Finally performed when it mattered.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 05, 2023, 03:21:35 PM
Let's hope this helps his trade value. Finally performed when it mattered.
Spent the year sandbagging.
I stand corrected. He's registered with the WSGA as a 3.0. Playing as a 10-handicap is outrageous
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 05, 2023, 03:29:55 PM
Spent the year sandbagging.
I stand corrected. He's registered with the WSGA as a 3.0. Playing as a 10-handicap is outrageous
Maybe the tournament adjusts all the amateur handicaps for the difficulty of a pro course set up
Thaw is coming this week. Need to get out in the next couple of weeks to run my streak to 12 straight months in Michigan.
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 05, 2023, 04:01:41 PM
Maybe the tournament adjusts all the amateur handicaps for the difficulty of a pro course set up
Please
Is Denny McCarthy the guy Lenny wanted us to pull for at the open?
nm. Nick Hardy.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 05, 2023, 03:29:55 PM
Spent the year sandbagging.
I stand corrected. He's registered with the WSGA as a 3.0. Playing as a 10-handicap is outrageous
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 05, 2023, 04:01:41 PM
Maybe the tournament adjusts all the amateur handicaps for the difficulty of a pro course set up
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 05, 2023, 04:04:01 PM
Please
Keith Mitchell calling out 12 for sandbagging .....
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/keith-mitchell-aaron-rodgers-crap-handicap-comment
Add Keith Mitchell to the group of haters that #12 will surely address next time he's on McAfee.
heading out to wigwam-gold course today, waste management pro-am wednesday, verrado founders and sterling grove booked so far. tough out here as super bowl revelers are crowding up the courses. also they really jacked up the prices...holy mulligans!! courses that would normally go for $60-70 are trying to get $150-175. crazy!! then next week they drop back down to reality
my home is about 10 miles from state farm dome, curious what i could have gotten to rent it out for the week but not enough money letting a bunch of drunk golfing football fans pee and puke in my pool for a week
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 07, 2023, 08:40:40 AM
heading out to wigwam-gold course today, waste management pro-am wednesday, verrado founders and sterling grove booked so far. tough out here as super bowl revelers are crowding up the courses. also they really jacked up the prices...holy mulligans!! courses that would normally go for $60-70 are trying to get $150-175. crazy!! then next week they drop back down to reality
my home is about 10 miles from state farm dome, curious what i could have gotten to rent it out for the week but not enough money letting a bunch of drunk golfing football fans pee and puke in my pool for a week
Yeah, sorry about last time. I told them peeing was OK (everybody does it), but no puking!
Let Herman's giddy Tiger predictions commence. Eldrick is teeing it up next week at Riviera.
Quote from: tower912 on February 10, 2023, 01:47:25 PM
Let Herman's giddy Tiger predictions commence. Eldrick is teeing it up next week at Riviera.
Insert post of Tiger Tour Buddy saying he's striking the ball well.
Definitely can contend for the Masters this year.
Anyone here ever gone to the Phoenix Open? Is it as much fun as it looks?
Quote from: MUBurrow on February 10, 2023, 03:18:26 PM
Anyone here ever gone to the Phoenix Open? Is it as much fun as it looks?
Its extremely fun. And not just from a rager party on 16 perspective. Its just a much more laid back and non-uptight take on golf.
Delighted to hear Tiger teeing it up at Rivieria . Tough course that requires lots of different golf shots , so Tiger has a chance to do well if he can get around the course with no pain.
Haven't heard any comments from his fellow tour members yet . Will be sure to post if any of his peers can give some insights as to how he is striking the ball.
https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/tiger-woods-returning-to-pga-tour-at-genesis-invitational/amp/
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 10, 2023, 04:03:13 PM
Haven't heard any comments from his fellow tour members yet . Will be sure to post if any of his peers can give some insights as to how he is striking the ball.
Thanks 9-9-9. I'm sure they'll be accurate, unbiased appraisals like all the ones last year from his buddies predicting he had a great chance to win several majors.
Quote from: MUBurrow on February 10, 2023, 03:18:26 PM
Anyone here ever gone to the Phoenix Open? Is it as much fun as it looks?
The mrs and I have gone for the past 5 years. This year we went to wednesday pro am to beat some of the crowd as the Super Bowl is down here as well and it's crazy. They said this year pro am was the busiest it's ever been. They will attract upwards of 200,000 or more per day wouldn't doubt if today they have closer to 300k
We usually get the clubhouse tix- great seats above 18th green. Easy to get to right as you enter the grounds, out of the crowds way, players exit off bridge right past us, your own bathrooms and spreads of food and drink makes it all more than worth the price which can range from $250-$500 or more per ticket run into the greatest people, have a blast every year!
Tour Players excited for Tiger return. They say "It's like Jesus is walking around "
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-return-riviera-pros-reaction?utm_medium=email&utm_source=021123&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM36516&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Scottie returns to #1.
Quote from: tower912 on February 12, 2023, 06:32:32 PM
Scottie returns to #1.
He played well. Looks like he is getting ready to peak at the Majors.
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 12, 2023, 06:40:47 PM
He played well. Looks like he is getting ready to peak at the Majors.
Interesting day. Struggled a bit off the tee but iron play was flawless and made a couple big putts
Nobody really made a push. Taylor made a couple little errors he could not afford. So Scottie was more than good enough today.
Fowler had so many chances starting in round 3. He shot 4 under with 4 penalty shots...who does that? Then round 4 he missed multiple chance to contend with too many bogies(and a double) to counter his ace and 4 birds
Dustin Johnson tweaked back; Paulina still in good shape though
https://www.golfmagic.com/liv-golf/paulina-gretzky-bares-all-liv-golf-hubby-dustin-johnson-sinks-13-year-low
Easy ta figure out how he tweaked his back, hey?
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 13, 2023, 07:23:37 AM
Dustin Johnson tweaked back; Paulina still in good shape though
https://www.golfmagic.com/liv-golf/paulina-gretzky-bares-all-liv-golf-hubby-dustin-johnson-sinks-13-year-low
well...no pics??
doc you dog you-someone tell him to use more legs eyn'a?
Tiger says Masters Dinner should honor Scheffler
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-masters-champions-dinner-liv-golf-phil-mickelson-fred-couples-rory-mcilroy?utm_medium=email&utm_source=021423&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM36624&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Yes, that is what usually happens. The champions' dinner honors the previous champion.
Cat shoots a nice 69, with birdies on his last 3
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 16, 2023, 07:09:38 PM
Cat shoots a nice 69, with birdies on his last 3
In good position to be there Sunday afternoon .
Big Cat did not disappoint. MU last night and a Tiger today, I am a happy guy!!!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 16, 2023, 07:09:38 PM
Cat shoots a nice 69, with birdies on his last 3
Is der a bad 69, hey?
Tiger with sense of humor
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/us-sport/tiger-woods-tampon-paige-spiranac-29240036.amp
I hope Lenny is out watching the comparatively young guys in Naples.
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 16, 2023, 07:36:04 PM
In good position to be there Sunday afternoon .
Looks like he will be in Jupiter tonight, watching Sunday on the couch.
Quote from: nyg on February 17, 2023, 02:36:11 PM
Looks like he will be in Jupiter tonight, watching Sunday on the couch.
Well, he's the host
Need to tamp down expectations.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 17, 2023, 02:46:52 PM
Well, he's the host
Right, forgot that. Probably wishes he was back in Jupiter.
As of now, he is missing cut. Least he can hand out the trophy on Sunday after few days of rest.
Expectations are way too high, well for some posters. Always like Tiger, but he is just too beat up physically. Wish him well.
Quote from: nyg on February 17, 2023, 02:59:45 PM
Right, forgot that. Probably wishes he was back in Jupiter.
As of now, he is missing cut. Least he can hand out the trophy on Sunday after few days of rest.
Expectations are way too high, well for some posters. Always like Tiger, but he is just too beat up physically. Wish him well.
I agree. Not surprised he "struggled" today. Actually hit the ball better than I anticipated both days but not playing regularly and the physical limitations of his body simply limit what he can do. Still wild he'll basically better half the field, though
Quote from: tower912 on February 17, 2023, 02:51:01 PM
Need to tamp down expectations.
I wish I could say I was surprised by the number of people
OFFENDED by the gag joke, but I'm not. I'm not a huge Tiger fan and I wasn't ground breakingly clever, but people need to lighten up.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 17, 2023, 03:12:02 PM
I agree. Not surprised he "struggled" today. Actually hit the ball better than I anticipated both days but not playing regularly and the physical limitations of his body simply limit what he can do. Still wild he'll basically better half the field, though
For beating half the field and making cuts is a great living for any PGA tour professional. Look at Charles Howell who has made like 45 million dollars on tour with three wins scattered around. That doesn't account for endorsement money.
The elite players need the wins and hate just barely making cuts. Tiger playing on one leg is a miracle for professional golf, but has to accept reality soon.
Side note, Netflix just released the PGA Tour series and it was great. Eight episodes and you can observe what I discussed above. Thomas, Speith, Scheffler, Damlin and others fantastic. Koepka just a lost cause and can't root for the guy. Enjoy
Annika Sorenstam gave a skirt to Fred Funk when she outdrove him during one of those goofy golf events.
It doesn't offend me. I question the timing and the self awareness. Funny in Jupiter when they are having a casual round. There is no way this could have been missed. Ah, well.
Quote from: nyg on February 17, 2023, 03:33:49 PM
For beating half the field and making cuts is a great living for any PGA tour professional. Look at Charles Howell who has made like 45 million dollars on tour with three wins scattered around. That doesn't account for endorsement money.
The elite players need the wins and hate just barely making cuts. Tiger playing on one leg is a miracle for professional golf, but has to accept reality soon.
Side note, Netflix just released the PGA Tour series and it was great. Eight episodes and you can observe what I discussed above. Thomas, Speith, Scheffler, Damlin and others fantastic. Koepka just a lost cause and can't root for the guy. Enjoy
I think Tiger knows his limitations and that's why he's playing here and the majors. I could see him play Jack's place.
Tiger still has a chance to make the cut.
Would help his cause if he did.
Why?
Quote from: tower912 on February 17, 2023, 05:31:01 PM
Why?
Makes the cut, has a chance to a win a tournament at course he never won a professional tournament on .
He'll be fine.
Quote from: tower912 on February 17, 2023, 06:19:46 PM
He'll be fine.
Of course he is going to be fine.
Tiger is out there competing to win.
Quote from: nyg on February 17, 2023, 03:33:49 PM
For beating half the field and making cuts is a great living for any PGA tour professional. Look at Charles Howell who has made like 45 million dollars on tour with three wins scattered around. That doesn't account for endorsement money.
The elite players need the wins and hate just barely making cuts. Tiger playing on one leg is a miracle for professional golf, but has to accept reality soon.
Side note, Netflix just released the PGA Tour series and it was great. Eight episodes and you can observe what I discussed above. Thomas, Speith, Scheffler, Damlin and others fantastic. Koepka just a lost cause and can't root for the guy. Enjoy
only half way thru the netflix documentary-it is fantastic!!
saw a side of humility in koepka that he hasn't shown
excellent take on joel dahmen and his quest to be the 70th best golfer- lots of behind the scene info
ian poulter is still a putz but another pov
jordie and justin was just fun
btw, tiger handing a tampon to JT at the genesis was just fun. those who found something to get riled up over?? get a life. we've lost all perspective on people just trying to laugh. if you're offended, look the other way. funny seeing someone "past his prime" showing up a dude still "in his prime" right mr lemon?
and they juxtapose all this with the LIV.
Is anybody playing with new sticks this year? I am messing around with some 3 woods. Also thinking about getting a 7 wood to replace my 3 hybrid.
Quote from: tower912 on February 17, 2023, 03:36:41 PM
Annika Sorenstam gave a skirt to Fred Funk when she outdrove him during one of those goofy golf events.
It doesn't offend me. I question the timing and the self awareness. Funny in Jupiter when they are having a casual round. There is no way this could have been missed. Ah, well.
Totally agree. Like I said, it wasn't all that funny, but it was just a lack of self awareness and eye roll at worst. I saw a golf blogger say that it as "more offensive to woman than all of his misdeeds while married" which is just a wild take.
Quote from: tower912 on February 18, 2023, 10:04:15 AM
Is anybody playing with new sticks this year? I am messing around with some 3 woods. Also thinking about getting a 7 wood to replace my 3 hybrid.
What type of 3 wood do you prefer? Aesthetically while lining up I like the thinner head, flatter bottom, but I just can't seem to hit them for anything compared to a beefier one.
I am gaming a 6 year old Tour Edge Exotic 4 wood. I have been flirting with a Ping G 425. Selling them out because they are last year's model. At the standard 14.5 setting, it launches higher than the 16.5 TEE.
We are always looking for distance. I am equally interested in point-and-shoot ease of use. I have that with my TSi2 driver.
All a long way of saying that I am not monogomous to a brand or a look. I want something that flies the same (good) way 8 times out of 10.
If all things are equal, I would probably choose the lower profile face.
I'm officially done with fairway woods. Dumped my 4 wood for a used 18 degree TaylorMade hybrid. Getting my putter regripped.. Going with a Traxion Pistol oversize grip. First time for an oversize grip for me.
Thomas Pieters joins LIV. Was disgruntled he could not get an invite to Tigers Genesis tournament at Rivieria. Won 2012 NCAA tournament at Rivieria
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/thomas-pieters-liv-golf-2023?utm_medium=email&utm_source=021823&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM36731&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Herman
My guess is LIV is why he did not get an invite. Likely was passed over with the LIV rumor swirling.
Tiger -4 today. Looking very good .
He's back .
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 18, 2023, 05:16:55 PM
Tiger -4 today. Looking very good .
He's back .
I've come to cherish Herm's blind consistency. And Tiger is absolutely back...11 shots back of the leaders
Quote from: JWags85 on February 18, 2023, 05:20:06 PM
I've come to cherish Herm's blind consistency. And Tiger is absolutely back...11 shots back of the leaders
For now. Tiger's essence on Sunday will make those guys forget if they are righty or lefty. 12 shots is nothing.
Herman
I am with you 100%. Tiger is back!! Not as back as MU basketball, but back.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 18, 2023, 05:25:49 PM
For now. Tiger's essence on Sunday will make those guys forget if they are righty or lefty. 12 shots is nothing.
Being top half of the field at the moment is impressive considering he hasn't played competetively since July.
But Rahm is damn impressive at the moment
And the number I'd set for Rahm majors is 1.5 in 2023
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 18, 2023, 05:52:03 PM
Being top half of the field at the moment is impressive considering he hasn't played competetively since July.
But Rahm is damn impressive at the moment
For sure. The fact he's having a great third round is encouraging since usually the weekend is when his body can't keep up.
It's amazing he's playing any competitive golf at all. I'm a big Tiger fan and would love to see him win another tournament. 4 high quality rounds seems a little out of reach for him physically.
Rico
Rahm is playing fantastic golf. While I am an admitted Tiger groupie, if he finishes in Top 20, it will be an incredible accomplishment. I saw when he tee'd it up on Thursday it had been 844 days since he played in a non major.
Quote from: Goose on February 18, 2023, 06:02:53 PM
Rico
Rahm is playing fantastic golf. While I am an admitted Tiger groupie, if he finishes in Top 20, it will be an incredible accomplishment. I saw when he tee'd it up on Thursday it had been 844 days since he played in a non major.
If he finishes top-20, I wonder where his odds for Augusta go to
Rico
Trust me, this sucker will be buying Tiger at Augusta.
Quote from: Goose on February 18, 2023, 06:15:23 PM
Rico
Trust me, this sucker will be buying Tiger at Augusta.
Get him now! 60 to 1
All that money you'd think Tiger would take care of that bald spot somehow.
When I was young and watching golf, long before I started playing golf, I remember Arnie. Mid 70's. In his 40's, and he had no real shot at winning, but the broadcasts always showed him even when he was 15 shots back.
I don't know if he will ever have the stamina to walk 4 straight days on a hilly course. But he will always move the needle.
Tiger had a tough day today shot 73 . Finished -1 for tournament .
Pretty good for his first PGA Tour event in many months
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 19, 2023, 03:02:52 PM
Tiger had a tough day today shot 73 . Finished -1 for tournament .
Pretty good for his first PGA Tour event in many months
From what we all saw over these four days, it'll be a mild surprise if he can win more than 3 majors this year.
Excellent post round interview with Tiger. Seems like he is going to try and play all 4 majors if his body will allow it .
tower
Like you, I have been a golf fan my entire life and I always loved to see Arnie, even in 15 back. What Arnie and Tiger have done for the sport is remarkable. I'll admit, watching Tiger is still a thrill for me. I get why people do not understand all the coverage he gets, but I still love it.
I guess, when the tour players stop getting a thrill of Tiger playing I'll follow suit. It seems to me that the young guys still love having a chance to play with Tiger.
Back to Arnie, the last time when he was at St. Andrews and was interviewed about being there still makes me tear up. A lifetime of giving to his profession and he felt like the lucky one. I miss Arnie.
Quote from: Goose on February 19, 2023, 03:53:05 PM
tower
Like you, I have been a golf fan my entire life and I always loved to see Arnie, even in 15 back. What Arnie and Tiger have done for the sport is remarkable. I'll admit, watching Tiger is still a thrill for me. I get why people do not understand all the coverage he gets, but I still love it.
I guess, when the tour players stop getting a thrill of Tiger playing I'll follow suit. It seems to me that the young guys still love having a chance to play with Tiger.
Back to Arnie, the last time when he was at St. Andrews and was interviewed about being there still makes me tear up. A lifetime of giving to his profession and he felt like the lucky one. I miss Arnie.
Golf missed Arnie
I think Tiger Woods has been great for professional golf. I think he has been a HUGE missed opportunity for the sport of golf. Arnie's popularity brought golf to the people - corresponding with an explosion of interest in the sport at the same time municipalities were opening up courses. My dad used to tell me of the lines he had to deal with at Currie Park on a Saturday morning.
Tiger's emergence caused a lot of courses to be developed, but they were largely private or high-end public courses. Millennial and GenZ participation rates in the sport aren't great. Will they eventually pick it up? Who knows. Tiger should have been the guy to get people to the game - and that didn't really happen.
Sultan,
Serious question, are you a golfer? I ask because I do believe that Tiger did bring people into the game in his prime. That said, I believe what your Dad told you to be true and Arnie changed the game. He was that damn cool.
Again, my question was more curiosity and if you ever felt that Tiger moved the needle on new golfers getting into the game.
Quote from: tower912 on February 19, 2023, 02:58:47 PM
When I was young and watching golf, long before I started playing golf, I remember Arnie. Mid 70's. In his 40's, and he had no real shot at winning, but the broadcasts always showed him even when he was 15 shots back.
I don't know if he will ever have the stamina to walk 4 straight days on a hilly course. But he will always move the needle.
I vividly remember Arnies last major that he was in contention in.
The 74 US Open at Winged Foot was a brutal set up . The Massacre at Winged Foot. The ABC broadcast focused on Arnie to the bitter end, even as the wheels had come off the Wagon many holes before the 18th. I was rooting hard for Arnie, but the course was just too extreme for him at that stage in his career .
The winner, Hale Irwin , shot 7 over par . Which I believe is still the highest over par a winner has shot in The Modern era of The US Open.
Quote from: Goose on February 19, 2023, 04:30:52 PM
Sultan,
Serious question, are you a golfer? I ask because I do believe that Tiger did bring people into the game in his prime. That said, I believe what your Dad told you to be true and Arnie changed the game. He was that damn cool.
Again, my question was more curiosity and if you ever felt that Tiger moved the needle on new golfers getting into the game.
Tiger absolutely brought people to the game. I worked with people who took up golf because of Tiger.
It's hard to grow the game. It's not cheap and where it is cheap, pace of play is often a slog on weekends. Covid actually caused a massive boom. Will it sustain? We shall see
Rico
Covid did create a boom, but I think it slowed down a bit last year. It seemed like getting a tee time was easier and rounds a bit quicker. The quicker rounds made me think there were less newer golfers playing. During Covid, it was a death match on our home track.
Quote from: Goose on February 19, 2023, 04:46:40 PM
Rico
Covid did create a boom, but I think it slowed down a bit last year. It seemed like getting a tee time was easier and rounds a bit quicker. The quicker rounds made me think there were less newer golfers playing. During Covid, it was a death match on our home track.
State of Wisconsin set a record for rounds played last year. Simulator golf business is booming, too.
I am a proponent of shrinking the game, tbh 😬
Rico,
Simulators are jumping. I will say, we adjusted our normal tee times a bit last season. We enjoy playing one weekday after work and adjusted to early tee off on Thursday or Friday and got to work by 10:30. Adjusted weekend to mid morning instead of early morning. That might explain our quicker rounds.
Speaking of simulator, they are crazy expensive. I try to give my buddy business, but he is in the process of moving. The top joints are expensive.
Quote from: Goose on February 19, 2023, 04:50:48 PM
Rico,
Simulators are jumping. I will say, we adjusted our normal tee times a bit last season. We enjoy playing one weekday after work and adjusted to early tee off on Thursday or Friday and got to work by 10:30. Adjusted weekend to mid morning instead of early morning. That might explain our quicker rounds.
Speaking of simulator, they are crazy expensive. I try to give my buddy business, but he is in the process of moving. The top joints are expensive.
Afternoon/work rounds the last three years have been harder to find. I tend to play late on weekends, so my rounds usually moved fairly quick. Still, pace of play has increased quite a bit since covid.
I do a simulator once a week and between the "golf" and drinks, it ain't a cheap night
Quote from: Goose on February 19, 2023, 04:30:52 PM
Sultan,
Serious question, are you a golfer? I ask because I do believe that Tiger did bring people into the game in his prime. That said, I believe what your Dad told you to be true and Arnie changed the game. He was that damn cool.
Again, my question was more curiosity and if you ever felt that Tiger moved the needle on new golfers getting into the game.
I am one of the few people who used to golf, but dropped it during peak Tiger. I had too much going on as a parent of young kids that I just didn't want to devote the time. Never really had the desire to return.
Tiger definitely brought people to the game. But the people he brought to the game weren't exactly reflective of society at large and didn't really meet the expectations that some had at the beginning of his career. But maybe that's unfair. And Rico is right - it's hard to grow a game like golf.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 19, 2023, 04:54:52 PM
I do a simulator once a week and between the "golf" and drinks, it ain't a cheap night
My experience was that nothing that ended with "and drinks" was.
Arnie was good for golf. So was Tiger. Know what was better than either? Covid.
Golf simulators are a big bubble ready to pop
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 19, 2023, 07:36:30 PM
Arnie was good for golf. So was Tiger. Know what was better than either? Covid.
Not really.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191907/participants-in-golf-in-the-us-since-2006/
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 19, 2023, 05:30:34 PM
I am one of the few people who used to golf, but dropped it during peak Tiger. I had too much going on as a parent of young kids that I just didn't want to devote the time. Never really had the desire to return.
Tiger definitely brought people to the game. But the people he brought to the game weren't exactly reflective of society at large and didn't really meet the expectations that some had at the beginning of his career. But maybe that's unfair. And Rico is right - it's hard to grow a game like golf.
I think the problem with Tiger was so many people that he brought to the game were Tiger fans, not golf/PGA fans.
That was great in his peak and prime, but didn't do much enduring. Same reason they lose their mind over any little thing he does these days or him in majors, cause they wouldn't be paying attention otherwise.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 20, 2023, 08:05:54 AM
Not really.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191907/participants-in-golf-in-the-us-since-2006/
Try getting a membership at any decent country club these days. There are long waiting lists. Wasn't that way before Covid.
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 20, 2023, 03:44:16 PM
Try getting a membership at any decent country club these days. There are long waiting lists. Wasn't that way before Covid.
Lots of high caliber clubs in Chicagoland looking for members.
Quote from: 🏀 on February 20, 2023, 03:45:26 PM
Lots of high caliber clubs in Chicagoland looking for members.
In Florida it is tough. Maybe in Chicago cause every one is leaving.
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 20, 2023, 04:06:12 PM
In Florida it is tough. Maybe in Chicago cause every one is leaving.
The crime. It's unsustainable, uncontainable.
Can't believe the amount of people leaving golf clubs in Illinois that are significantly better then almost everything in Florida.
It's a true shame, vote Republican to save Chicago.
Bryson "DeCharcuterie" body has been repaired
https://www.livgolf.com/news/after-surgery-solve-his-vertigo-bryson-dechambeau-back-to-2018-self
Does that solve his gallery rope problem?
First round in for the year. Shipyard Golf in Hilton Head. 39-46. Wish I could say the beer did me in on the back, but not a beer cart to be seen. Good weather, but pretty brown fairways. Beats the office though!
Your year is off to a solid start.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 21, 2023, 05:43:25 PM
First round in for the year. Shipyard Golf in Hilton Head. 39-46. Wish I could say the beer did me in on the back, but not a beer cart to be seen. Good weather, but pretty brown fairways. Beats the office though!
Solid round . Hilton Head is a great place .
Haven't been to Hilton Head, but jealous. I'm biding my time with sim golf, which is okay but I can't wait to play outside. Fingers crossed the MU somehow ends up in Orlando....would be good for my fandom and my golf game.
Is anyone watching Full Swing?
Just watched episode 1. I will be watching the rest.
LIV Golf starting season today on Mexico. Friday rounds on CW App. Saturday and Sunday on CW Broadcast
Same production values and announcers as last year . They show a lot of shots .
Seems like the Players are all enjoying themselves .
A lot of money in hand and not much competition. Plus, they have been told to act like they are enjoying themselves.
Watching LIV CW Broadcast. They have a few advertisers , mostly local but a few National . Promoting Prime time shows on their network.
Greg Norman riding around course on a Bicycle......
I am watching professional golf. Admittedly partial to stocky Irish guys. Go Shane!
So, I flip to LIV for 10 seconds. Feherty is clearly telling a hell of a story. No sound. A sign from the universe.
LIV Golfers aren't independent contractors
https://twitter.com/jnucci23/status/1629547910047178752?s=46&t=XgOYU8P_kCbS0ve8pQFBEA
Maybe I couldn't hear the announcers over the crowd noise.
https://twitter.com/PGATOUR/status/1629584965842407424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1629584965842407424%7Ctwgr%5Edaee33a0207e013cb1166b7003ca9bfb7fff42d8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fsports%2Fgolfer-akshay-bhatia-strips-down-two-shots-mud-honda-classic
for beer money
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 25, 2023, 02:29:15 PM
LIV Golfers aren't independent contractors
https://twitter.com/jnucci23/status/1629547910047178752?s=46&t=XgOYU8P_kCbS0ve8pQFBEA
It looks like this is more restrictive than the PGA Tour. I chuckle at the mandatory events because of how many made that a big point when they left.
https://twitter.com/ourand_sbj/status/1629895774870855680?s=46&t=poCSbnUB6g5YBFCm8GbhqA
David Feherty is unedited on LIV Broadcast, having a good time.
Charles Howell III , who was known as a Human ATM for his consistent money making on PGA Tour, has won the first event of the 2023 LIV season, his team won also. He Picks up winnings of $4,750,000.
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 26, 2023, 04:51:08 PM
Charles Howell III , who was known as a Human ATM for his consistent money making on PGA Tour, has won the first event of the 2023 LIV season, his team won also. He Picks up winnings of $4,750,000.
Riveting
Chris Kirk wins for the first time in 8-years, holding off Eric Cole, a 34 year-old rookie whose mother is Laura Baugh.
If you know the Kirk story, this is a great win. Crowd into it despite the weak field.
Happy for Kirk. I was pulling for Cole because I was Laura Baugh was dream girl back in the day. I watched her for a couple of days at the Dinah Shore in the late '70's. When I say watched, borderline stalker is better description.
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 26, 2023, 04:51:08 PM
Charles Howell III , who was known as a Human ATM for his consistent money making on PGA Tour, has won the first event of the 2023 LIV season, his team won also. He Picks up winnings of $4,750,000.
A showcase of the stars.
Quote from: Goose on February 26, 2023, 05:35:04 PM
Happy for Kirk. I was pulling for Cole because I was Laura Baugh was dream girl back in the day. I watched her for a couple of days at the Dinah Shore in the late '70's. When I say watched, borderline stalker is better description.
Her story is something else, too.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/myshot_gd0401/amp
Rico
I never stopped following her, and yes, her story is something else. I have promised myself I would get a golf lesson from her prior to her retiring. She was looking pretty damn good on TV today for being 67y.
Quote from: Goose on February 26, 2023, 05:35:04 PM
Happy for Kirk. I was pulling for Cole because I was Laura Baugh was dream girl back in the day. I watched her for a couple of days at the Dinah Shore in the late '70's. When I say watched, borderline stalker is better description.
Laura Baugh created a lot of interest in the woman's tour back in the day. Is still a teaching pro
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sports/pga/2015/12/14/laura-baugh-begins-next-chapter-golf-life-sawgrass-cc/15692272007/
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 26, 2023, 05:16:41 PM
Chris Kirk wins for the first time in 8-years, holding off Eric Cole, a 34 year-old rookie whose mother is Laura Baugh.
If you know the Kirk story, this is a great win. Crowd into it despite the weak field.
i'm familiar with the chris kirk story and it's a helluva testament to the Big Guy in the sky and the PGA to allow him to get better and return to a great game. the win also gave him a ticket into the masters-double bonus!!
shoot, just read about laura baugh, her story and eric cole. what an interesting dynamic between him and chris kirk' story. always great to hear good stuff
Went to the golf expo today in Rosemont. Kinda interesting, actually lots of great deals on clubs, just no place to hit them.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 26, 2023, 07:30:31 PM
Went to the golf expo today in Rosemont. Kinda interesting, actually lots of great deals on clubs, just no place to hit them.
A cesspool unlike any other.
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 26, 2023, 04:51:08 PM
Charles Howell III , who was known as a Human ATM for his consistent money making on PGA Tour, has won the first event of the 2023 LIV season, his team won also. He Picks up winnings of $4,750,000.
LIV continues to push the idea that fans care how much money these guys are playing for. Sports fans don't care. I continue to be stunned by just how terrible the LIV product is and my expectations for LIV were basement-level to start with.
RJax
I agree on the size of purse and LIV sucks. I love golf and put it on several times this weekend and turned it off within minutes both times. I do not understand why they believe the purse size will add to the excitement. Not that I care, but the constant money/purse hype could be a turn off for some fans.
Think I saw that the LIV ratings for the weekend were like 0.1
Not exactly getting eyes...
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 27, 2023, 01:59:59 PM
Think I saw that the LIV ratings for the weekend were like 0.1
Not exactly getting eyes...
Many of the CW affiliates in major markets - Chicago, Philadelphia, Atlanta, San Francisco, Tampa, Seattle, Detroit and Pittsburgh included - aren't even showing it.
Quote from: Goose on February 27, 2023, 01:59:08 PM
RJax
I agree on the size of purse and LIV sucks. I love golf and put it on several times this weekend and turned it off within minutes both times. I do not understand why they believe the purse size will add to the excitement. Not that I care, but the constant money/purse hype could be a turn off for some fans.
If anything, the obscenity of the money turns people off. Guys are getting guaranteed money and playing for whatever the purses are.
The appeal of the "matches" was never Tiger and FIGJAM playing for whatever dollars, but the golf matchup.
They think team golf is a drawing point, too. It simply isn't and certainly won't be if the teams keep changing.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 27, 2023, 03:45:07 PM
If anything, the obscenity of the money turns people off. Guys are getting guaranteed money and playing for whatever the purses are.
The appeal of the "matches" was never Tiger and FIGJAM playing for whatever dollars, but the golf matchup.
They think team golf is a drawing point, too. It simply isn't and certainly won't be if the teams keep changing.
LIV needs to keep emphasizing Paulina....
https://nypost.com/2023/02/27/paulina-gretzky-models-bold-bikini-as-liv-golf-mexico-wraps/
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 27, 2023, 04:22:59 PM
LIV needs to keep emphasizing Paulina....
https://nypost.com/2023/02/27/paulina-gretzky-models-bold-bikini-as-liv-golf-mexico-wraps/
Why? So old perverts can masterbate?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 27, 2023, 04:48:51 PM
Why? So old perverts can masterbate?
Come on, it's Hermie.
In last month alone he posted:
Gina Lolabrigada
Rachel Welsh
Suzanne Summers
Creighton cheerleaders
Laura Baugh
Paulina
Dick Van Dykes young wife
Like that for years, Playboy bunnies, cheerleaders, Gilligan Island woman, etc.
Quote from: nyg on February 27, 2023, 06:21:41 PM
Come on, it's Hermie.
In last month alone he posted:
Gina Lolabrigada
Rachel Welsh
Suzanne Summers
Creighton cheerleaders
Laura Baugh
Paulina
Dick Van Dykes young wife
Like that for years, Playboy bunnies, cheerleaders, Gilligan Island woman, etc.
He needs to get laid
Gross. Necrophilia. He's dead.
Quote from: nyg on February 27, 2023, 06:21:41 PM
Come on, it's Hermie.
In last month alone he posted:
Gina Lolabrigada
Rachel Welsh
Suzanne Summers
Creighton cheerleaders
Laura Baugh
Paulina
Dick Van Dykes young wife
Like that for years, Playboy bunnies, cheerleaders, Gilligan Island woman, etc.
Quite the list.
i have a feeling both are going to suffer in their own ways-
LIV for lack of ratings because the fans won't feel the competive juice
PGA for lack of ratings/no real star power to relate to, no real magnate to draw people in
conclusion-seth waugh and jay monahan are going to have to hold their noses and maybe a few other appendages and get together with stormin norman and figure something out for the good of the game
Rocket
I believe that the PGA will bury Liv before they need to come together. I believe Liv will ultimately cave from within when Uber rich stars get tired of the format. At this moment, there really is nothing appealing to me coming from Liv and I will watch any golf on TV.
Quote from: nyg on February 27, 2023, 06:21:41 PM
Come on, it's Hermie.
In last month alone he posted:
Gina Lolabrigada
Rachel Welsh
Suzanne Summers
Creighton cheerleaders
Laura Baugh
Paulina
Dick Van Dykes young wife
Like that for years, Playboy bunnies, cheerleaders, Gilligan Island woman, etc.
Not to mention he's the guy who said it's a good idea to intentionally get young womren drunk so he can have unprotected sex with them
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 27, 2023, 07:36:11 PM
i have a feeling both are going to suffer in their own ways-
LIV for lack of ratings because the fans won't feel the competive juice
PGA for lack of ratings/no real star power to relate to, no real magnate to draw people in
conclusion-seth waugh and jay monahan are going to have to hold their noses and maybe a few other appendages and get together with stormin norman and figure something out for the good of the game
The Tour pulled in over two million viewers for a Sunday finish in a tournament that was billed as "second rate" since the big guys were playing at Seminole for a pro-am.
Bizarre thing to write that the Tour lacks ratings and star power.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on February 28, 2023, 10:45:20 AM
The Tour pulled in over two million viewers for a Sunday finish in a tournament that was billed as "second rate" since the big guys were playing at Seminole for a pro-am.
Bizarre thing to write that the Tour lacks ratings and star power.
I also think a player is much more likely to develop into a star on the PGA than LIV.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 28, 2023, 11:07:13 AM
I also think a player is much more likely to develop into a star on the PGA than LIV.
Hard to be a star when no one is watching you
LIV.... where players on the tail end of their relevancy go to play. Surprised Duffner and Fowler haven't joined. Unless the talent pool increases, I wont' watch. Norman is also an insufferable prick so between he and Phil, i'm almost rooting for the LIV downfall
CW Network pleased with LIV debut . CE Affiliates who elected to carry The Broadcast were able to sell ads . Ratings are roughly equal to an FS1 Big East lower tier game.
https://golf.com/news/how-liv-golf-ratings-fared-network-tv-debut-cw/?amp=1
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 01, 2023, 12:38:06 PM
CW Network pleased with LIV debut . CE Affiliates who elected to carry The Broadcast were able to sell ads . Ratings are roughly equal to an FS1 Big East lower tier game.
https://golf.com/news/how-liv-golf-ratings-fared-network-tv-debut-cw/?amp=1
Huge win
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 01, 2023, 01:37:48 PM
Huge win
Yep. When this all started, Greg Norman was dreaming of the day that they could get DePaul v. Butler-like ratings.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 01, 2023, 01:37:48 PM
Huge win
Gigantic.....
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3458086/liv-golfs-tv-ratings-last-weekend-fell-85percent-short-of-the-pga-tours-honda-classic-draw-with-more-people-watching-worlds-funniest-animals
Quote from: nyg on March 01, 2023, 03:09:41 PM
Gigantic.....
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3458086/liv-golfs-tv-ratings-last-weekend-fell-85percent-short-of-the-pga-tours-honda-classic-draw-with-more-people-watching-worlds-funniest-animals
To be fair, Greg Norman and Sundays have always had a complicated relationship
Rahm is a menace
LIV had a relegation system this year similar to Soccer .
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/liv-golf-league-promotion-relegation-plans/
Yup. Building golf.
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 03, 2023, 06:40:20 AM
LIV had a relegation system this year similar to Soccer .
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/liv-golf-league-promotion-relegation-plans/
Well, it's relegation if you don't have a guranteed contract.
Sounds like the Saudi's aren't too happy with the returns on investment and lawsuit results.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 02, 2023, 04:22:04 PM
Rahm is a menace
Uncle Rico jinx. ;D
I think he will be ok.
Quote from: tower912 on March 03, 2023, 03:54:12 PM
Uncle Rico jinx. ;D
I think he will be ok.
This is a Ludvig Aberg fan account
this was kind of weird...while LSU player was putting a long putt, the opposing player walked thru her line after the ball had passed, but before it had finished rolling in which it went in. either the opposing player was ignorant of the "unwritten rule" or just downright rude.
you make the call...
https://thecomeback.com/golf/college-golfer-walking-putters-line.html
on another note, it's pretty cool darius rucker has a tournament named after him. he's a great guy and a pretty good golfer too
No Tiger in The Players. Too bad , we have tickets for The Final round . Was hoping to see a shootout with him and Rory down the stretch.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/03/03/2023-players-championship-tiger-woods-not-playing/
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 03, 2023, 05:32:36 PM
No Tiger in The Players. Too bad , we have tickets for The Final round . Was hoping to see a shootout with him and Rory down the stretch.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/03/03/2023-players-championship-tiger-woods-not-playing/
For what? 57th place?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 03, 2023, 09:42:18 PM
For what? 57th place?
It's performance theater by 9-9-9 ... and not bad performance theater, either.
Loss for the Wisconsin golf community
https://www.wisconsin.golf/19th_hole/gary_d_amato/swing-instructor-david-rasmussen-whose-students-comprised-a-whos-who-of-wisconsin-golf-dies-after/article_416e61f6-b9d6-11ed-8e75-eb541b25d6f0.html
Dave Rasmussen was a great teacher and ahead of his time in the MKE area. Getting to see him was extremely tough and his fee was well beyond any local pro. I remember having to cancel an "appointment" on short notice and was charged and put on probation for further lessons. Sad to hear of his passing. I have some good memories of spending time with Dave.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 04, 2023, 09:48:12 AM
Loss for the Wisconsin golf community
https://www.wisconsin.golf/19th_hole/gary_d_amato/swing-instructor-david-rasmussen-whose-students-comprised-a-whos-who-of-wisconsin-golf-dies-after/article_416e61f6-b9d6-11ed-8e75-eb541b25d6f0.html
I never knew much of Rasmussen when I was younger, but I remember my BIL saying, in one of our first convos, in the golf pro community, when it came to Wisconsin, everyone knew 2 names. Manuel de la Torre and Dave Rasmussen.
Interesting interview with James Piot , former MSU Golfer who won US Amateur, and why he chose LIV.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/journeys-james-piot-no-sponsors-liv-golf-michigan-state?utm_medium=email&utm_source=030423&utm_campaign=gdplus&utm_content=DM37154&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 04, 2023, 11:27:17 AM
Interesting interview with James Piot , former MSU Golfer who won US Amateur, and why he chose LIV.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/journeys-james-piot-no-sponsors-liv-golf-michigan-state?utm_medium=email&utm_source=030423&utm_campaign=gdplus&utm_content=DM37154&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Bit of an odd article. A lot of "I thinks" about specifics in the contract. He could have just said, "it's nice to have a guaranteed paycheck right away."
Bay Hill gone wild
Going to be a good finish. Although everyone seems to be going backwards
Putting like scoopers.
Kurt Kitayama has as many titles on American soil as his fellow Chico, CA native Aaron Rodgers. Is he the best athlete to ever come out of Chico? Many people are saying
Kitayama was All-State in basketball. Pretty impressive for a guy that's 5'7". Impressed how he hung in there after a triple bogey on 9 in the face of Spieth, McIlroy, and Schefler.
Quote from: Judge Smails on March 05, 2023, 05:19:11 PM
Kitayama was All-State in basketball. Pretty impressive for a guy that's 5'7". Impressed how he hung in there after a triple bogey on 9 in the face of Spieth, McIlroy, and Schefler.
https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/2023-arnold-palmer-invitational-leaderboard-kurt-kitayama-outlasts-rory-mcilroy-for-first-pga-tour-win/live/
Muggy should be excited and inspired.
Any Scoopers going to The Players Championship this week? weather is looking good so I am thinking about going Sunday. Hopefully rooting Rory on to Victory .
LIV Golf gets first sponsor .
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-tournament-sponsor-2023#:~:text=LIV%20Golf%20has%20announced%20its,the%20LIV%20Golf%20Singapore%20event.
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 07, 2023, 08:03:12 PM
LIV Golf gets first sponsor .
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-tournament-sponsor-2023#:~:text=LIV%20Golf%20has%20announced%20its,the%20LIV%20Golf%20Singapore%20event.
🤣
Tiger breaks up with girlfriend Erica Herman. Herman files a palimony type lawsuit .
https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/tiger-woods-and-erica-herman-what-went-wrong/
took spieth, horschel, bradley, hovland, zalatoris, and fowler in my fanduel. would love to see rickie break thru and rise to the top. bradley's been flirting
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 08, 2023, 07:57:05 PM
Tiger breaks up with girlfriend Erica Herman. Herman files a palimony type lawsuit .
https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/tiger-woods-and-erica-herman-what-went-wrong/
She wants out of the NDA.
https://apnews.com/article/tiger-woods-girlfriend-nda-harassment-lawsuit-bd048e8fcc6981e3c67cdb6ae91a0a36?user_email=6647dfa7189f748384d7389910f7b584c6fcfc35ae990102964c7e826d4175c7&utm_medium=Morning_Wire&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_campaign=March9a_MorningWire&utm_term=Morning%20Wire%20Subscribers
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 08, 2023, 07:57:05 PM
Tiger breaks up with girlfriend Erica Herman. Herman files a palimony type lawsuit .
https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/tiger-woods-and-erica-herman-what-went-wrong/
Perhaps there can be a new Page Six thread where these types of posts can be funneled.
It's in the Superbar. What more do you want?
Quote from: MU_B on March 09, 2023, 09:22:26 AM
It's in the Superbar. What more do you want?
This is the golf thread. I have zero problem with anyone starting a Page Six thread.
7 rounds in already this year in Michigan. God bless global warming.
The tours new strategy may have some unintended consequences . Players not making the upper tier may be encouraged to go to LIV
Players had meeting to discuss.
https://golf.com/news/pga-tour-players-control-meeting-changes/?amp=1
Comments about potential exodus
https://golf.com/news/theyve-opened-themselves-up-tour-changes-liv-exodus/?amp=1
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 09, 2023, 10:16:40 AM
The tours new strategy may have some unintended consequences . Players not making the upper tier may be encouraged to go to LIV
Players had meeting to discuss.
https://golf.com/news/pga-tour-players-control-meeting-changes/?amp=1
Comments about potential exodus
https://golf.com/news/theyve-opened-themselves-up-tour-changes-liv-exodus/?amp=1
LIV is a good spot for players afraid of getting better
Rory sucked wind today. Pisses me off , cause I am going to The Players on Sunday and was hoping to see him in contention.
Now He may not make the cut .
Morikowa had an excellent opening round. I enjoy watching him strike the ball.
https://golf.com/news/collin-morikawa-sentence-competition-afraid/?amp=1
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 09, 2023, 04:31:16 PM
Rory sucked wind today. Pisses me off , cause I am going to The Players on Sunday and was hoping to see him in contention.
Now He may not make the cut .
Worse than that, I took Rory in my one and done pool.
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 09, 2023, 04:31:16 PM
Rory sucked wind today. Pisses me off , cause I am going to The Players on Sunday and was hoping to see him in contention.
Now He may not make the cut .
I'll be out there today, i pass along your encouragement.
Chad Ramey got it to -9 and then dunked 2 on 17. Has Zalatoris old caddie on the bag
The wind is picking up. Potential carnage this afternoon.
Quote from: tower912 on March 10, 2023, 02:58:12 PM
The wind is picking up. Potential carnage this afternoon.
Damn
Thunderstorms. Course will be soaked.
https://golf.com/news/10-golfers-missed-cut-2023-players-championship/?amp=1
Was that on the CW?
So....in the event that Marquette makes it to the Final Four in Houston, does anyone want to meet and play a couple rounds of golf down there in between games??
At The Players . Wind starting to come in. Watched a bit in a box at 17 now heading to the course to follow my guy Morikowa a bit
Follow Hatton around. The self loathing commentary is wildly entertaining.
Quote from: tower912 on March 12, 2023, 01:56:16 PM
Follow Hatton around. The self loathing commentary is wildly entertaining.
Followed a couple of Scheffler holes. The guy is a machine
Watched Scheffler step up to the 17th with the wind blowing and put it close . A very talented player who will continue to b a factor in all the majors.
Was a fun day , but the event this year seemed more like a regular tour event than in years past .
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 12, 2023, 06:05:23 PM
Watched Scheffler step up to the 17th with the wind blowing and put it close . A very talented player who will continue to b a factor in all the majors.
Was a fun day , but the event this year seemed more like a regular tour event than in years past .
Scheffler sucked the air out of the arena
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/fred-couples-calls-phil-mickelson-nutbag-sergio-garcia-clown-speech-for-the-ages/amp
Phil's team in Second Place in LIV after second round. Should be a fun final day in Tucson.
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 18, 2023, 04:59:26 PM
Phil's team in Second Place in LIV after second round. Should be a fun final day in Tucson.
Far better golf at Valspar.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 18, 2023, 05:07:51 PM
Far better golf at Valspar.
Innisbrook Copperhead Course always one of the tougher layouts on The PGA Tour.
Just picked up a set of JPX923 hot metal irons today, can't wait to use them.
Going to La Quinta/Palm Springs in September. What courses should I try to book?
My BIL is good friends with and de-facto swing coach for Cody Gribble. Gribble was on the UT team with Spieth that won the NCAA in 2012, but not much since then. Very much a journeyman, won a tourney in 2017 but hasn't had a card since 2017-2018. Had some major shoulder injuries and surgeries so he missed most of 2019-2021. He's back playing Korn Ferry and PGA events here and there. He finished top 10 in a weak Puerto Rico Open two weeks ago but now he's sitting 2 back at the Valspar and shouted out my BIL by name in his interview after his round on Friday for helping him with his swing.
He also owes my BIL a bunch of deferred money from services rendered so my sister has been updating us nearly hole by hole ;D ;D
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on March 18, 2023, 06:10:05 PM
Just picked up a set of JPX923 hot metal irons today, can't wait to use them.
Going to La Quinta/Palm Springs in September. What courses should I try to book?
Here is a good list. I like to try the courses the Pros play on tour just to see what they are up against.
https://www.golfdigest.com/places-to-play/collections/best-public-golf-courses-palm-springs
If you have some golfing connections, try to play Thunderbird Country Club. Club and Course has a lot of history. Ford named The Thunderbird after the Club.
https://www.thunderbirdcc.org/
I have played many beautiful golf courses in this country over the years and took a trip to Palm Springs some years ago.
I can honestly say that besides Oakmont (history/difficulty), the most beautiful course was the Mountain Course at LaQuinta. It runs through the mountains and everything was perfection.
Stayed at LaQuinta Resort onsite and that was also first class. Played all the courses at PGA West and they were great also. PGA West course was a beast.
Enjoy your trip, myself and friends had wonderful time there.
Quote from: nyg on March 18, 2023, 08:09:22 PM
I have played many beautiful golf courses in this country over the years and took a trip to Palm Springs some years ago.
I can honestly say that besides Oakmont (history/difficulty), the most beautiful course was the Mountain Course at LaQuinta. It runs through the mountains and everything was perfection.
Stayed at LaQuinta Resort onsite and that was also first class. Played all the courses at PGA West and they were great also. PGA West course was a beast.
Enjoy your trip, myself and friends had wonderful time there.
Based on pictures the mountain course looks like it needs to be at the top of my list. Staying at an Airbnb in la Quinta just south of the resort. Only question is how many mornings the wife lets me golf but I have at least 2 mornings. She might ride along on the mountain course to take in the views.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on March 18, 2023, 08:42:51 PM
Based on pictures the mountain course looks like it needs to be at the top of my list. Staying at an Airbnb in la Quinta just south of the resort. Only question is how many mornings the wife lets me golf but I have at least 2 mornings. She might ride along on the mountain course to take in the views.
Can't go wrong with Mountain or Nicklaus at PGA West.
Only two days, then mandatory PGA West Stadium Course. That's the famous one and a beast. PGA West is huge complex and clubhouse.
On side note, if interested, at LaQuinta Resort is a fantastic Mexican restaurant called Adobe Grill, has indoor as well as outdoor balcony seating, overlooking the courtyard. Terrific food and Resort is nice and quaint.
Enjoy
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on March 18, 2023, 06:10:05 PM
Just picked up a set of JPX923 hot metal irons today, can't wait to use them.
Going to La Quinta/Palm Springs in September. What courses should I try to book?
Looking forward to your report. I play a set of JPX 825s which I like very much. I was poking around at the golf store while getting my putter regripped and saw the 923s. Good looking irons. Definitely looked like something I could move up to some day. Since I'm 2 degrees upright it's kind of a pain to buy new irons.
Danny Lee wins LIV Golf event , putted in from off the green to win Playoff
https://twitter.com/livgolf_league/status/1637595517298556928
Sergio Garcia's Fireballs GC team won the Team Event
https://twitter.com/livgolf_league/status/1637602173252169728?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
I was waiting for Tower's report! :)
I would rather watch a season package of Wisconsin basketball highlights than LIV golf.
I hope Herm is collecting a check from Norman to pimp LIV golf here. Something for the effort.
CH III and Danny Lee. My gosh, these are exactly the exciting winners that LIV promised us. The stars are shining.
Quote from: RJax55 on March 20, 2023, 07:41:12 AM
I hope Herm is collecting a check from Norman to pimp LIV golf here. Something for the effort.
CH III and Danny Lee. My gosh, these are exactly the exciting winners that LIV promised us. The stars are shining.
Guys that couldn't buy wins on the tour. Huh
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 19, 2023, 07:04:49 PM
Danny Lee wins LIV Golf event , putted in from off the green to win Playoff
https://twitter.com/livgolf_league/status/1637595517298556928
Sergio Garcia's Fireballs GC team won the Team Event
https://twitter.com/livgolf_league/status/1637602173252169728?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
It's a huge hit with the people.
According to a report from Kevin Van Valkenburg of the golf site No Laying Up, LIV posted a dismal 0.14 rating for second round coverage of its event in Tucson on Saturday across 33 metered markets on the CW network. That's down even from the 0.2 LIV reportedly notched for its season-opening event in Mexico three weeks ago.https://www.mediaite.com/sports/saudi-backed-liv-golf-reportedly-tanks-in-the-nielsens-again-notching-abysmal-14-rating/
Just wait. LIV heads overseas in April for events in Australia and Singapore. The ratings for those events will be something.
LIV really needs their stars to perform well at the Masters.
It feels like Hermie is financially invested in LIV's success.
Quote from: tower912 on March 20, 2023, 10:26:01 AM
It feels like Hermie is financially invested in LIV's success.
I have a flamethrower if he wants to waste it faster
Freddie did just call Sergio a clown....
https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/ (https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/)
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on March 20, 2023, 12:16:50 PM
Freddie did just call Sergio a clown....
https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/ (https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/)
Doesn't sound like Sergio. He's a world class gentleman on the golf course
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on March 20, 2023, 12:16:50 PM
Freddie did just call Sergio a clown....
https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/ (https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/)
Fred has not been holding back.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on March 20, 2023, 12:16:50 PM
Freddie did just call Sergio a clown....
https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/ (https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/)
They say All PR is good PR even if it pisses some people off........
Quote from: tower912 on March 19, 2023, 08:38:00 PM
I would rather watch a season package of Wisconsin basketball highlights than LIV golf.
No big sacrifice on your part. The highlights only take up about 2 minutes. Or in Pitino's case...a New York minute, aina?
Pure filth
https://twitter.com/actiongolfhq/status/1639052448261353472?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2023, 07:22:30 PM
Pure filth
https://twitter.com/actiongolfhq/status/1639052448261353472?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
It is drives like this that prompted,Tiger t0 train his son Charlie to replicate Rory's swing.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on March 20, 2023, 12:16:50 PM
Freddie did just call Sergio a clown....
https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/ (https://www.golfwrx.com/709693/is-that-guy-peeing-sergio-garcia-caught-taking-a-leak-on-liv-broadcast-while-playing-partner-tees-off/)
must be another one of those "perks" of LIV come on man! who hasn't done this ;)
Brooks Koepka wins LIV event in Orlando. Second LIV win. Seems healthy and in good form heading into Masters.
Cantlay with an 82-esque chip on 14 at Harbour Town.
Heck of a finish in Sea Pines.
Rory not missed.
Cantlay needs to sign with LIV so I don't have to watch him
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 16, 2023, 04:35:47 PM
Cantlay needs to sign with LIV so I don't have to watch him
LOL. He isn't exactly Speedy Gonzales. At some point it gets annoying for sure.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 16, 2023, 04:37:37 PM
LOL. He isn't exactly Speedy Gonzales. At some point it gets annoying for sure.
Billy Foster thinks so
https://twitter.com/pemulroe/status/1647714706591735809?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Clutch shot by Fitz on 17.
Not a clutch putt by Spieth.
Not a clutch putt by Fitzmagic
Spieth gacked in the save.
Overtime.
Can't keep missing putts. Happy for Matt. If nothing else, to silence the clowns.
Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2023, 05:59:33 PM
Can't keep missing putts. Happy for Matt. If nothing else, to silence the clowns.
Big Ten legend
Great win for Fitzpatrick. I thought there were a few fans that behaved like morons frankly.
We agree.
Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2023, 06:52:19 PM
We agree.
I love the club head speed Fitz generates. He's also fast in his overall play which is refreshing. He seemed a bit annoyed with Cantlay's molasses pace.
He wasn't impressed with Spieth's existential angst, either.
Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2023, 07:10:33 PM
He wasn't impressed with Spieth's existential angst, either.
Good point.
Happy to see Fitzpatrick win . Seems like a solid young guy.
Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2023, 03:55:44 PM
Cantlay with an 82-esque chip on 14 at Harbour Town.
Um ... memorable?
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 16, 2023, 09:15:30 PM
Happy to see Fitzpatrick win . Seems like a solid young guy.
he was featured in episode 5 netflix full swing-seemed younger than his age, although only 28, but seemed younger-seems like a fine bloke
former MU golfer standout, hunter eichhorn made the cut in his first korn ferry tour event T60 and shot a 5 under par 66-69-74-70 at veritex bank championship at texas rangers golf club in arlington, texas
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-announces-ankle-fusion-surgery-likely-to-miss-rest-of-2023-majors/amp
Tiger has yet another surgery, this one almost certainly ending any likelihood of playing again in 2023. We may have reached the end game on his career
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2023, 08:08:47 PM
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-announces-ankle-fusion-surgery-likely-to-miss-rest-of-2023-majors/amp
Tiger has yet another surgery, this one almost certainly ending any likelihood of playing again in 2023. We may have reached the end game on his career
I am thinking it may revive his greatness. Just like the back fusion did. Although maybe all it does is make day to day living easier .
I'm thinking Tiger beats Jack's record for majors by the end of the 2024 season, and then goes on to put it out of reach.
30 is a nice, round number.
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 19, 2023, 09:29:01 PM
I am thinking it may revive his greatness. Just like the back fusion did. Although maybe all it does is make day to day living easier .
I mean, he won't be able to bend or twist his right ankle, but sure, it'll revive his greatness
Is part of the LIV allure guys going low? Seeing a guy like Talor Gooch go 20 under in 2 rounds for a 10 shot lead doesn't seem super entertaining to me.
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 22, 2023, 01:23:48 PM
Is part of the LIV allure guys going low? Seeing a guy like Talor Gooch go 20 under in 2 rounds for a 10 shot lead doesn't seem super entertaining to me.
The LIV Courses have generally been set up like a regular PGA Tour event . I haven't watched any of this weeks event in Australia, where wind , or lack thereof,is usually a big element . I think Gooch is just having a very good tournament .
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 22, 2023, 03:58:44 PM
The LIV Courses have generally been set up like a regular PGA Tour event . I haven't watched any of this weeks event in Australia, where wind , or lack thereof,is usually a big element . I think Gooch is just having a very good tournament .
They're playing garbage courses. Like Greg Norman, the tour is a joke. It's a place for Trumpers to watch golf
Gooch cooled off shot one over today, won by 3 .
And nobody watched or cared.
Quote from: tower912 on April 23, 2023, 01:36:46 PM
And nobody watched or cared.
Big crowds in Australia
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/golf/liv-golf-adelaide-insane-queue-29777714.amp
Lenny should be pleased.
Quote from: tower912 on April 23, 2023, 08:46:02 PM
Lenny should be pleased.
I couldn't care less. Did it make you angry?
I assumed Nick Hardy getting a win would please you. But you do you. Thanks for the laugh.
Quote from: tower912 on April 24, 2023, 05:17:02 AM
I assumed Nick Hardy getting a win would please you. But you do you. Thanks for the laugh.
My apologies, Tower. I thought you were implying I was a pro LIV guy.
Very excited for Nick. Thanks for the shout out!
All good. I did not specifically include a reference to your guy in my post. I assumed it was a given due to timing and circumstance. Oops. Moving on.
Crazy Scene , at the watering hole,after Hole in one at LIV golf in Australia
https://twitter.com/LIVGolfUpdates/status/1649981131469488128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1649981131469488128%7Ctwgr%5E4c0173fdf5433d0c064ab328ca9e532c2350efca%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-34326701541786741892.ampproject.net%2F2304062309000%2Fframe.html
So, Bob Parsons opinion on LIV golf. Cannotforget 9/11. Did not renew PXG contracts with golfers who jumped to LiV.
Quote from: tower912 on April 28, 2023, 05:31:17 PM
So, Bob Parsons opinion on LIV golf. Cannotforget 9/11. Did not renew PXG contracts with golfers who jumped to LiV.
Pat Perez in shambles. Literally. He's like 71% plastic
Quote from: tower912 on April 28, 2023, 05:31:17 PM
So, Bob Parsons opinion on LIV golf. Cannotforget 9/11. Did not renew PXG contracts with golfers who jumped to LiV.
https://sports.yahoo.com/founder-bob-parsons-says-pxg-151514300.html
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 28, 2023, 06:38:04 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/founder-bob-parsons-says-pxg-151514300.html
creates a vacuum for anheuser-busch eyn'a?
Gooch and Garcia lead packed LIV leaderboard in Singapore . Tape delay action on CWNetwork between 1 and 6 pm eastern
https://sports.yahoo.com/leaderboard-liv-golf-singapore-remains-112427237.html
I have toenail lint to alphabetize.
Quote from: tower912 on April 29, 2023, 08:54:01 AM
I have toenail lint to alphabetize.
Taped delay on the CW. No world ranking points. Not eligible for majors. Washed up fields with guys that are never was and never will bes and players who would be limping to the senior tour. Greg Norman lied to all these players. The league is playing second rate dumps or places where the Saudi's have business relationships
You could watch that or watch the ladies play Wilshire. Easy choice.
Yeah, it's not great that the Saudis helped pay for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. But at least they didn't do something REALLY horrible and anti-American like use a trans person in an ad.
Quote from: MU82 on April 29, 2023, 12:03:45 PM
Yeah, it's not great that the Saudis helped pay for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. But at least they didn't do something REALLY horrible and anti-American like use a trans person in an ad.
No, the Saudi's just kill them
Quote from: tower912 on April 28, 2023, 05:31:17 PM
So, Bob Parsons opinion on LIV golf. Cannotforget 9/11. Did not renew PXG contracts with golfers who jumped to LiV.
Anyone play PXGs? My current set of Sub70s are great. My driver shaft just broke and considering trying out the PXG Gen5 driver.
Quote from: Snowman on April 29, 2023, 11:38:50 PM
Anyone play PXGs? My current set of Sub70s are great. My driver shaft just broke and considering trying out the PXG Gen5 driver.
Their drivers are notoriously bad.
Talor Gooch wins second straight LIV event. Birdies playoff hole to beat Sergio Garcia. Gooch has earned a little over $9 million the last two weeks. Good work if you can get it
https://www.livgolf.com/news/liv-golf-singapore-gooch-goes-back-to-back-rangegoats-win-team-title
Can't believe most of the golf-watching world is missing the rise of The Great Taylor Gooch.
Quote from: MU82 on April 30, 2023, 09:55:00 AM
The Great Taylor Gooch.
The Great Talor Gooch
It's Tah-lore.
He was making a name for himself prior to LIV, won RSM, T5 at the Players, top 20s at the Masters and PGA.
Too bad.
Quote from: 🏀 on April 30, 2023, 10:03:23 AM
The Great Talor Gooch
It's Tah-lore.
He was making a name for himself prior to LIV, won RSM, T5 at the Players, top 20s at the Masters and PGA.
Too bad.
He's also one of the dumbest golfers in the world. He believed the lies peddled by Norman and has on more than one occasion been surprised his choice has had negative consequences.
So Gooch really tainted his legacy?
Quote from: Snowman on April 29, 2023, 11:38:50 PM
Anyone play PXGs? My current set of Sub70s are great. My driver shaft just broke and considering trying out the PXG Gen5 driver.
I bought one last year when they were having a fire sale. Think I paid something like $229. Figured even if I didn't like it I'd give it to my nephew. Also bought a driving iron.
The driver is super light. Makes a very weird sound on contact. Almost tinny. So far I've been pleased. Keep in mind I hadn't bought a new driver for probably 5/6 years so I'm not sure how it would compare to the other drivers. The driving iron is great. The only con is that it is quite heavy so unless your swing speed is pretty significant it could be problematic. There was definitely a learning curve with it.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 30, 2023, 10:53:57 AM
He's also one of the dumbest golfers in the world. He believed the lies peddled by Norman and has on more than one occasion been surprised his choice has had negative consequences.
"Yeah absolutely I haven't played a Ryder Cup or Presidents Cup, but I can't imagine there's a whole hell of a lot of difference.' - Talor Gooch
Quote from: Jables1604 on April 30, 2023, 11:42:12 AM
I bought one last year when they were having a fire sale. Think I paid something like $229. Figured even if I didn't like it I'd give it to my nephew. Also bought a driving iron.
The driver is super light. Makes a very weird sound on contact. Almost tinny. So far I've been pleased. Keep in mind I hadn't bought a new driver for probably 5/6 years so I'm not sure how it would compare to the other drivers. The driving iron is great. The only con is that it is quite heavy so unless your swing speed is pretty significant it could be problematic. There was definitely a learning curve with it.
Awesome thanks
My new Ping 7-wood is awesome. I recommend anyone not young and scratch try one.
PGA has to be ecstatic. Finau and Rahm in the final group with two young ethnically diverse players chasing in Mexico. Talk about growing the game.
Quote from: tower912 on April 30, 2023, 04:03:42 PM
My new Ping 7-wood is awesome. I recommend anyone not young and scratch try one.
PGA has to be ecstatic. Finau and Rahm in the final group with two young ethnically diverse players chasing in Mexico. Talk about growing the game.
Is the golf on CW?
Quote from: tower912 on April 30, 2023, 04:03:42 PM
My new Ping 7-wood is awesome. I recommend anyone not young and scratch try one.
PGA has to be ecstatic. Finau and Rahm in the final group with two young ethnically diverse players chasing in Mexico. Talk about growing the game.
Been a big fan of driving irons lately. Have a 2 and 4. Hitting them well indoors... on course not so much.
love the rogue hybrids. swung the ping and rogue together out on the range and the rogue just felt more balanced to me
Quote from: tower912 on April 30, 2023, 04:03:42 PM
My new Ping 7-wood is awesome. I recommend anyone not young and scratch try one.
PGA has to be ecstatic. Finau and Rahm in the final group with two young ethnically diverse players chasing in Mexico. Talk about growing the game.
Let me know when that 7 wood gets ya down ta 22 putts/rd, hey?
Never been that low. And the point of 7 wood is to hit greens from 200-210 (2 putts) instead of missing greens but getting up and down. (1putt) So, hopefully 1-2 more putts.
heheh
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 30, 2023, 06:08:13 PM
love the rogue hybrids. swung the ping and rogue together out on the range and the rogue just felt more balanced to me
My rogue 4 hybrid is my favorite club.
LPGA at Harding Park with a team event. Great match play course. Played it in 2019. Interesting history for the course
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 06, 2023, 06:15:27 PM
LPGA at Harding Park with a team event. Great match play course. Played it in 2019. Interesting history for the course
Ladies playing some historic courses the last few weeks. That's a good thing.
Tiger beat Daly in a playoff at Harding many years ago when both were bombing the ball. Was fun watching them down the stretch.
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 06, 2023, 06:19:47 PM
Ladies playing some historic courses the last few weeks. That's a good thing.
Tiger beat Daly in a playoff at Harding many years ago when both were bombing the ball. Was fun watching them down the stretch.
Was that at Harding Park? Didn't realize that.
Can't wait to see them at Baltusrol, Pebble and Walton Heath this year. They're coming to Erin Hills in 2025. Looking forward to that
5th year illinois golfer, tommy kuhl, after shooting a 62 at local us open qualifier, disqualified himself for fixing aerated marks on the green.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/college-golf-star-disqualifies-himself-us-open-qualifier-felt-sick-my-stomach?dicbo=v2-oaPR0VL
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 11, 2023, 08:03:00 PM
5th year illinois golfer, tommy kuhl, after shooting a 62 at local us open qualifier, disqualified himself for fixing aerated marks on the green.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/college-golf-star-disqualifies-himself-us-open-qualifier-felt-sick-my-stomach?dicbo=v2-oaPR0VL
That honor system is the beauty of high level golf.
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 11, 2023, 09:05:46 PM
That honor system is the beauty of high level golf.
Brooks Koepka could learn something from this kid
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 11, 2023, 09:08:23 PM
Brooks Koepka could learn something from this kid
Psh.
Patrick Reed shakes his head and counts his money.
14,000 at LIV in Tulsa today. More expected on Weekend.
https://twitter.com/LIVGolfNation/status/1657145514557579264/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1657145514557579264¤tTweetUser=LIVGolfNation
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 12, 2023, 06:09:02 PM
14,000 at LIV in Tulsa today. More expected on Weekend.
https://twitter.com/LIVGolfNation/status/1657145514557579264/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1657145514557579264¤tTweetUser=LIVGolfNation
Congrats 9-9-9. You sure do love your Blood Money Tour!
this is just nasty-el campeon golf course in florida-div III tournament had to cancel due to difficulty of hole-almost like a sick joke-
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ncaa-cancels-third-round-division-iii-womens-golf-championship-over-unplayable-hole
Pins were set by the NCAA, not the club. Poor thought process.
Quote from: MU82 on May 12, 2023, 06:10:12 PM
Congrats 9-9-9. You sure do love your Blood Money Tour!
Also, those numbers aren't real
Jason Day ends drought and wins ATT Byron Nelson. Fantastic win for Jason.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/jason-day-att-byron-nelson-win-ends-five-year-winless-streak/amp
Dustin Johnson wins LIV Tulsa in playoff.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/05/14/dustin-johnson-wins-2023-liv-golf-tulsa-in-playoff-cameron-smith/
LIV Oops CW switched the show right in middle of playoff....
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-cw-switched-off-liv-golf-big-sunday-finish-incredible-list-tv-programs-seen-instead?utm_medium=email&utm_source=051523&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM39805&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Local channels wanted to boost their ratings.
Heidi revisited!
Quote from: MU82 on May 15, 2023, 10:35:31 PM
Heidi revisited!
AFL was the LIV of its day.....
A rival that ultimately that ultimately folded after a short run.
Quote from: tower912 on May 16, 2023, 07:40:04 AM
A rival that ultimately that ultimately folded after a short run.
AFL merged with NFL. Owners of those franchises made out very well.
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 16, 2023, 08:29:46 AM
AFL merged with NFL. Owners of those franchises made out very well.
The NFL won. Al Davis spent the rest of his life fighting the NFL after his fellow owners negotiated behind his back.
Huh
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 16, 2023, 07:38:45 AM
AFL was the LIV of its day.....
More like the USFL (except that the USFL had games televised on a real network).
Maybe LIV will sue successfully and get treble damages -- 3 whole dollars! -- just like the USFL did before it goes under.
Quote from: MU82 on May 16, 2023, 10:13:40 AM
More like the USFL.
Maybe LIV will sue successfully and get treble damages -- 3 whole dollars! -- just like the USFL did before it goes under.
I think calling it the USFL is giving LIV too much credit. Maybe the World Football League is more apt.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on May 16, 2023, 10:16:22 AM
I think calling it the USFL is giving LIV too much credit. Maybe the World Football League is more apt.
Is Pat Perez the
Toronto Northmen Memphis Southmen?
Sergio Garcia final qualified for The US Open at Los Angeles Country Club . Had to birdie last hole to avoid playoff.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/05/22/sergio-garcia-qualified-2023-u-s-open-via-final-qualifying/
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 23, 2023, 09:19:55 PM
Sergio Garcia final qualified for The US Open at Los Angeles Country Club . Had to birdie last hole to avoid playoff.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/05/22/sergio-garcia-qualified-2023-u-s-open-via-final-qualifying/
Bad news for the greenskeeper at LACC
Hopefully he has finally outgrown hocking loogies into the cups.
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 23, 2023, 09:19:55 PM
Sergio Garcia final qualified for The US Open at Los Angeles Country Club . Had to birdie last hole to avoid playoff.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/05/22/sergio-garcia-qualified-2023-u-s-open-via-final-qualifying/
Some commentary from Sergio on his round and vocabulary.
https://golf.com/news/sergio-garcia-qualifies-us-open/?amp=1
It'll be inspiring to watch Sergio finish tied for 48th (if he makes the cut).
Quote from: MU82 on May 24, 2023, 09:56:03 AM
It'll be inspiring to watch Sergio finish tied for 48th (if he makes the cut).
He's a loser
Excellent interview with Claude Harmon III
Gives his perspective on LIV , PGA Tour and the Media
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/liv-golf-brooks-koepka-coach-blasts-media/
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 24, 2023, 12:09:16 PM
Excellent interview with Claude Harmon III
Gives his perspective on LIV , PGA Tour and the Media
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/liv-golf-brooks-koepka-coach-blasts-media/
He's an idiot and proved it in this interview
That's enough Michael Block airtime
Harrington attributes Double Bogey to pee break
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/Padraig-harrington-costly-bathroom-break-senior-pga-championship?utm_medium=email&utm_source=051423&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM39703&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
They can't just find a tree. Particularly on a course with few trees.
That hole is bad luck for Padraig. Brained a spectator today.
The commercial for Harbor Shores golf course (is that a network commercial or a local commercial? Anyway...) has an egregious error in it. It says Harbor Shores is on the southWEST shore of Lake Michigan. It is on the SouthEAST shore of Lake Michigan. It is on the southwest shore of Michigan.
Beautiful course. Amazing back story.
Harrington screwed up the playoff, although made a nice attempt on the fourth shot
Quote from: tower912 on May 28, 2023, 05:10:02 PM
The commercial for Harbor Shores golf course (is that a network commercial or a local commercial? Anyway...) has an egregious error in it. It says Harbor Shores is on the southWEST shore of Lake Michigan. It is on the SouthEAST shore of Lake Michigan. It is on the southwest shore of Michigan.
Beautiful course. Amazing back story.
Routing always looks questionable, what's the story?
Quote from: 🏀 on May 28, 2023, 07:57:41 PM
Routing always looks questionable, what's the story?
https://www.harborshoresresort.com/golf/our-story
This is a flowery version. Short version is that there is massive brownfield reclamation on the site of a huge old factory. Part 2 is doing it in an economically depressed town in the height of the great recession.
The routing is not convenient. Carts are mandatory, even when the PGA Champions is played there. A few spots where there is a half mile gap from a green to the next tee that involves going under a major thoroughfare. Also not a fan of the two different greens on 6. The green on 10 is as difficult as any green anywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUPPnVo0CII
Harold Varner III won LIV this week. Next LIV after US Open. So those who qualify should be well rested and ready to go.
Grillo earned that win through karma. To treat those kids that well while waiting to see about the playoff..... man. Well done.
Quote from: tower912 on May 28, 2023, 08:17:14 PM
https://www.harborshoresresort.com/golf/our-story
This is a flowery version. Short version is that there is massive brownfield reclamation on the site of a huge old factory. Part 2 is doing it in an economically depressed town in the height of the great recession.
The routing is not convenient. Carts are mandatory, even when the PGA Champions is played there. A few spots where there is a half mile gap from a green to the next tee that involves going under a major thoroughfare. Also not a fan of the two different greens on 6. The green on 10 is as difficult as any green anywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUPPnVo0CII
Usually turn my nose up at mandatory carts, but the back story is worth it. Thanks tower.
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 28, 2023, 10:42:21 PM
Harold Varner III won LIV this week. Next LIV after US Open. So those who qualify should be well rested and ready to go.
love harry! pga tour is missing a great guy. got to meet him at wastemanagment along with darius rucker. what a pair they made. just sat back and listened. went out their way to sign and talk to the fans. i picked harry on my fanduel contests 9/10 times. sneaky good
90 holes in 3 days. I need a break.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2023, 06:39:23 PM
love harry! pga tour is missing a great guy. got to meet him at wastemanagment along with darius rucker. what a pair they made. just sat back and listened. went out their way to sign and talk to the fans. i picked harry on my fanduel contests 9/10 times. sneaky good
How will the PGA Tour survive without Harold Varner III? Can they send Darius Rucker to Saudi Golf, too?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 01, 2023, 03:52:18 PM
How will the PGA Tour survive without Harold Varner III? Can they send Darius Rucker to Saudi Golf prison, too?
FIFY
Rose Zhang, arguably the most successful amateur women's golfer ever, with a very solid 70 in her LPGA debut.
Quote from: tower912 on June 01, 2023, 03:49:10 PM
90 holes in 3 days. I need a break.
Is that golf or sexual exploits, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 03, 2023, 03:55:34 AM
Is that golf or sexual exploits, hey?
yeah, might depend on which ones, hey??
Rose Zhang enters the third round of her professional debut two strokes off the lead. She needs to win a tournament to make the Solheim Cup team since she can't technically be a LPGA member until next year.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 03, 2023, 08:48:10 AM
Rose Zhang enters the third round of her professional debut two strokes off the lead. She needs to win a tournament to make the Solheim Cup team since she can't technically be a LPGA member until next year.
The real #teamrose
Quote from: 🏀 on June 03, 2023, 12:01:26 PM
The real #teamrose
Rose having a great 3rd round. Would love to see her win this weekend. Cheyenne Knight has also been playing a lot of good golf
Moving backward day at the Memorial.
Rose shoots a 6-under that could have been easily 8 or 9 under. Currently in the lead
Tom McKibbin wins the Porsche Open on the DP World Tour
https://twitter.com/dpworldtour/status/1665376356308336644?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Only 20 years-old and from the same hometown and club as Rory McIlroy. Could be a fun day for golf with Rose Zhang chasing history and a packed leaderboard at Jack's place
Go, Keegan. Go, Ricky.
Quote from: tower912 on June 04, 2023, 12:46:23 PM
Go, Keegan. Go, Ricky.
Need Rickie on the Ryder Cup team to help Team Europe
Hah.
Hovland was overdue for a win this season.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on June 04, 2023, 05:24:52 PM
Hovland was overdue for a win this season.
Yeah, it was just a matter of time the way he has been playing.
Impressive how mentally strong Zhang is. Great lag putts and gutsy 3-4 footers to hold onto a 1-stroke lead. Rooting for her!
Played Pinehurst #4 today
Tough course kicked my butt
Always rooting for history.
Nice! Nerves of freakin' steel!!
Darn ... time for a playoff.
Pace of play is appalling. So is the course.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 04, 2023, 06:48:53 PM
Pace of play is appalling. So is the course.
Awesome view of the city, though.
The course looks like fun. Slow play saps the joy from the game.
Two impressive putts. Back to the 18th tee!
So cool.
That approach was the stuff of legends, and Rose Zhang is now part of history!
Quote from: MU82 on June 04, 2023, 07:16:26 PM
So cool.
That approach was the stuff of legends, and Rose Zhang is now part of history!
Incredible stuff. What a shot. Too bad her first win is on a landfill but that will get her on the Solheim Cup team. First of many
Why the issue with reclaimed brownfield?
They did a parallel thing in Chicago.
Harbor Shores, too.
Quote from: tower912 on June 04, 2023, 07:19:33 PM
Why the issue with reclaimed brownfield?
They did a parallel thing in Chicago.
Harbor Shores, too.
The course gets roasted by those that know. The views save it
Roasted how?
Quote from: tower912 on June 04, 2023, 07:23:43 PM
Roasted how?
The layout is bad, the design is bad and boring
We are reading different reviews.
Quote from: tower912 on June 04, 2023, 07:30:53 PM
We are reading different reviews.
They spend their money wisely
Watching the replay of The Memorial. Major set up and conditions on the course . Unfortunate that Rory could not close . Big win for Hovland.
It's that time of year again — time to apply for (and not get) Masters tickets. My oldest daughter has developed an interest in golf (thanks, Netflix) and also wants to apply for tickets. She got a response saying someone else at her address — an apartment building — already applied. Well, of course they did. It's an apartment building. Hundreds of people live there. I can understand the "one application per household" rule, but do they really apply that to apartment buildings? Does anyone know if she can call and get a workaround?
Quote from: StillAWarrior on June 05, 2023, 06:18:57 AM
It's that time of year again — time to apply for (and not get) Masters tickets. My oldest daughter has developed an interest in golf (thanks, Netflix) and also wants to apply for tickets. She got a response saying someone else at her address — an apartment building — already applied. Well, of course they did. It's an apartment building. Hundreds of people live there. I can understand the "one application per household" rule, but do they really apply that to apartment buildings? Does anyone know if she can call and get a workaround?
That's strange. There's a space for an apartment number to be entered on the address form.
From the site, maybe someone can help-
For additional information regarding ticketing please contact the Masters Tournament Ticket Office at (706) 667-6700.
Quote from: MUfan12 on June 05, 2023, 09:10:21 AM
That's strange. There's a space for an apartment number to be entered on the address form.
From the site, maybe someone can help- For additional information regarding ticketing please contact the Masters Tournament Ticket Office at (706) 667-6700.
Thank you. She did include her apartment number. Actually the response that she received gave her that number to call and I suggested she call them. I don't think she called yet (she just tried to apply yesterday evening). Hopefully they will do something that will allow her to apply so she can be disappointed when she does not get tickets.
Here's a cool story ...
Just hours after winning the Memorial, Hovland is caddying for college buddy Zach Bauchou at a U.S. Open qualifier in Columbus. Hovland will be carrying Bauchou's bag for 36 holes.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/06/05/viktor-hovland-caddies-college-teammate-us-open-final-qualifying/
Played Pinehurst Number 2 today. Green complexes are brutal. Can hit what looks like an excellent approach and the shot doesn't hold the ball will roll off the green and go 30 yards down a slope .
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 28, 2023, 10:42:21 PM
Harold Varner III won LIV this week. Next LIV after US Open. So those who qualify should be well rested and ready to go.
He's gonna be REALLY well-rested for the next LIV event because he won't have to play in that pesky U.S. Open after failing to qualify.
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/article276122731.html?ac_cid=DM807869&ac_bid=-1187699606
Harold Varner III was unambiguous about his financial reasons for jumping to the LIV Tour, but having to qualify for the U.S. Open after top-30 finishes at the Masters and PGA was one of the consequences.
LOL...what?
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/06/pga-tour-agrees-to-merge-with-saudi-backed-rival-liv-golf.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar
Wow, that's a stunner -- not necessarily that it happened, but that it happened so soon.
Need a lot more details to form any opinion and to know who "won." Just from the little bit I've read about it so far, though, the golfers have won for sure in the form of more $$$.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on June 06, 2023, 08:59:25 AM
LOL...what?
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/06/pga-tour-agrees-to-merge-with-saudi-backed-rival-liv-golf.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar
Wow
Did the Saudis just buy-out the PGA? Love to get the financial details here
Players finding out via Twitter is something.
Golf is entirely run by the PIF, very cool.
Being absolutely ripped on Twitter
https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/1666090435033595910
https://twitter.com/JoeMcCann3/status/1666091602341928960
Imaging not taking a crap-ton of money to not play for the Saudis to only wake up one morning to find out you're playing for the Saudis.
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 06, 2023, 09:39:29 AM
Being absolutely ripped on Twitter
https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/1666090435033595910
https://twitter.com/JoeMcCann3/status/1666091602341928960
I love following Joe, but I wouldn't exactly use a tweet from him for the pulse of the sports media world. Although, it seems in line with many.
I'm pretty shocked by this. For it being For Profit and Yasir as the top person, this means that LIV is taking on the PGA? I thought for sure LIV would be more desperate for a deal with the lack of TV deal.
A lesson in he who talks most ends up the biggest ass. No one has been honest in all of this, but I'm not sure anyone really cares.
https://twitter.com/BKoepka/status/1666087935190663170?t=kxYZc7z2VWhS-eHaFY3jZg&s=19
https://twitter.com/MacHughesGolf/status/1666094467903012866?t=EUc2qDhcNWa2rGLS7-it4w&s=19
https://twitter.com/collin_morikawa/status/1666085967105773574?t=EpNCs8BIMn0tEb-0QJicEw&s=19
I just hope the PGA can maintain their tax exempt status
Ugh. I don't want to be hyperbolic pending details, but I may have just had a lot of my summer sports following time open up. The PGA must have been pretty confident it was going to lose the antitrust suit.
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 06, 2023, 09:53:58 AM
I just hope the PGA can maintain their tax exempt status
They've already announced the merger is for-profit.
i believe i mentioned something along these lines during conversations regarding LIV & PGA. i will look for it but coming to some kind of agreement makes too much sense. no, i haven't read the specifics yet and will, but i had to puff out my chest a little bit first ;D
makes one wonder if any of the PGA guys who were on the fence, but turned down BIG money to join LIV and now...they're SOL on that deal
Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 06, 2023, 09:59:28 AM
makes one wonder if any of the PGA guys who were on the fence, but turned down BIG money to join LIV and now...they're SOL on that deal
"the PGA sportocrats who ran their organizing game convincing pro golfers to turn down literally hundreds of millions of dollars to stick with the Association and then stabbed them all the back, took the money and ran
honestly incredible stuff, hall of fame shitbags"
I want Rory's real-time reaction to finding out
I thought the PGA was supposedly a player run organization?
Excellent deal for all parties
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1666098829421314048?t=18GTYuqnQXx-zCrqYvGd_w&s=19
https://twitter.com/notthefakeSVP/status/1666100382160879617
Quote from: 🏀 on June 06, 2023, 09:55:07 AM
They've already announced the merger is for-profit.
From the CNBC article:
"Separately, PGA TOUR Inc. will remain in place as a 501(c)(6) tax exempt organization"
MU Burrow
I have been a golfer, and a golf fan, my entirely life and love golf more than MU basketball and my weekends just got a lot more flexible. There is not one thing that the PGA has done that I approve of over the past 18 months, and this is horrible for the game, IMO. I am not boycotting watching, but there will be a lot less hours sitting in front of the TV watching some of my favorite tournaments.
I cannot say it is a sad day for golf but it is a sad day in my golf world.
Quote from: Goose on June 06, 2023, 10:34:51 AM
MU Burrow
I have been a golfer, and a golf fan, my entirely life and love golf more than MU basketball and my weekends just got a lot more flexible. There is not one thing that the PGA has done that I approve of over the past 18 months, and this is horrible for the game, IMO. I am not boycotting watching, but there will be a lot less hours sitting in front of the TV watching some of my favorite tournaments.
I cannot say it is a sad day for golf but it is a sad day in my golf world.
I'm stunned Goose. This is a sad day for me as well.
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 06, 2023, 10:00:33 AM
I want Rory's real-time reaction to finding out
I thought the PGA was supposedly a player run organization?
That was exactly my first thought.
Quote from: Goose on June 06, 2023, 10:34:51 AM
MU Burrow
I have been a golfer, and a golf fan, my entirely life and love golf more than MU basketball and my weekends just got a lot more flexible. There is not one thing that the PGA has done that I approve of over the past 18 months, and this is horrible for the game, IMO. I am not boycotting watching, but there will be a lot less hours sitting in front of the TV watching some of my favorite tournaments.
I cannot say it is a sad day for golf but it is a sad day in my golf world.
I
will be boycotting, which is a sad state of affairs over a game I love so much.
I wonder how long it will take before a Wall of Fame featuring the 9/11 terrorists and the bone saw murderers starts popping up at PGA events.
Quote from: Jockey on June 06, 2023, 11:00:11 AM
I will be boycotting, which is a sad state of affairs over a game I love so much.
I wonder how long it will take before a Wall of Fame featuring the 9/11 terrorists and the bone saw murderers starts popping up at PGA events.
i'm assuming you have boycotted anything Chinese too? even the underbritches you wear are made in china. unless torturing and butchering muslims are ok in your world
rocket
In my world golf is a gentlemen's game. It is a game of honor, tradition and integrity. In my golf world there is no #16 at the Waste Management, music on golf course and pro's wearing shorts. I am an old school guy in regard to golf and professional golf will never be the sport I love again.
I don't care about the Saudi's, Chinese, UFO's or any other group that was associated with Liv. It prostituted the sport and I think it is a sad day for old school golf fans. That being said, that is my opinion and my love the game diminished a tad today.
Michael Scott Paper Company and LIV golf have much more in common than first glance.
Quote from: Goose on June 06, 2023, 11:16:05 AM
rocket
In my world golf is a gentlemen's game. It is a game of honor, tradition and integrity. In my golf world there is no #16 at the Waste Management, music on golf course and pro's wearing shorts. I am an old school guy in regard to golf and professional golf will never be the sport I love again.
I don't care about the Saudi's, Chinese, UFO's or any other group that was associated with Liv. It prostituted the sport and I think it is a sad day for old school golf fans. That being said, that is my opinion and my love the game diminished a tad today.
Goose,
Whose to say this won't have a major impact on other sports? Even college sports? I think this is beyond terrible and I'm a bit dumbfounded some people cannot see it.
Quote from: Goose on June 06, 2023, 11:16:05 AM
rocket
In my world golf is a gentlemen's game. It is a game of honor, tradition and integrity. In my golf world there is no #16 at the Waste Management, music on golf course and pro's wearing shorts. I am an old school guy in regard to golf and professional golf will never be the sport I love again.
I don't care about the Saudi's, Chinese, UFO's or any other group that was associated with Liv. It prostituted the sport and I think it is a sad day for old school golf fans. That being said, that is my opinion and my love the game diminished a tad today.
Rocket has made it clear he doesn't believe golf is gentlemanly
Terrible day for the sport.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 06, 2023, 10:13:06 AM
Excellent deal for all parties
The details haven't been released yet
Nothin's official 'til 29 putts chimes in, aina?
https://twitter.com/jameshesky/status/1666112128703406081?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 06, 2023, 11:54:25 AM
https://twitter.com/jameshesky/status/1666112128703406081?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
This is the one, shut it down. All other analysis need not apply.
Quote from: MUBurrow on June 06, 2023, 11:56:20 AM
This is the one, shut it down. All other analysis need not apply.
Today is the 79yr anniversary of D-Day. All of this stinks to high heaven imo.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 06, 2023, 12:01:21 PM
Today is the 79yr anniversary of D-Day. All of this stinks to high heaven imo.
Muggs-
The PGA represents the wealthy of America and they'll always sellout anyone and country
The real clown in this equation is Monaghan. He shouldn't earn a penny from this starting with his 9/11 comments to selling out.
Quote from: Goose on June 06, 2023, 11:16:05 AM
rocket
In my world golf is a gentlemen's game. It is a game of honor, tradition and integrity. In my golf world there is no #16 at the Waste Management, music on golf course and pro's wearing shorts. I am an old school guy in regard to golf and professional golf will never be the sport I love again.
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Quote from: panda on June 06, 2023, 12:09:56 PM
The real clown in this equation is Monaghan. He shouldn't earn a penny from this starting with his 9/11 comments to selling out.
I forgot exactly what he said but wasn't it more or less that the players that left have been living under a rock if they don't understand the impact of 9/11? I recall Nantz asking him about it and Monaghan was seemingly very forceful with his disgust of those bolting for LIV as well as LIV in general.
Monaghan's comments were always about protecting his own turf against a threat rather than any moral issues over 9/11. That's why it looks so silly now.
...but it looks good on you....
I'm as surprised as anyone and waiting for the details. Don't want to rush to judgment. (If there's anything I've learned from Scoop it's 5 years to judge.) I did see some blurb about the team concept being part of this deal. That's a head scratcher.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 06, 2023, 12:24:17 PM
I forgot exactly what he said but wasn't it more or less that the players that left have been living under a rock if they don't understand the impact of 9/11? I recall Nantz asking him about it and Monaghan was seemingly very forceful with his disgust of those bolting for LIV as well as LIV in general.
https://twitter.com/joshacarpenter/status/1666130243931844624?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Selling out is easy when you're rich
I am generally optimistic, glass half full, etc. I feel somewhere between Joey Hauser setting a screen against Brad Davison and Joey playing help defense against Ja Morant.
I rarely watch "regular" PGA Tour events, so this won't change anything for me in that regard. But I love the majors, especially on the Sunday of a closely contested one. It's too early for me to figure out what this all means as far as whether I'll continue watching those; need more details.
I really enjoyed watching this past Sunday's LPGA finish, with Rose Zhang winning her debut event. She could be golf's next Tiger Woods, and that's pretty exciting.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 06, 2023, 11:08:38 AM
i'm assuming you have boycotted anything Chinese too? even the underbritches you wear are made in china. unless torturing and butchering muslims are ok in your world
Bruh. The USA has been doing this for decades
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 06, 2023, 01:11:04 PM
Bruh. The USA has been doing this for decades
Now, if the tour has Budweiser or Target as a sponsor, well, that's different
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 06, 2023, 01:13:37 PM
Now, if the tour has Budweiser or Target as a sponsor, well, that's different
Or Chik-fil-A now, apparently.
New logo
The Shark was blinsided, too. OK, that makes me laugh.
How will this affect the CW?
Quote from: tower912 on June 06, 2023, 01:57:51 PM
The Shark was blinsided, too. OK, that makes me laugh.
I told my son that hopefully the only good that comes out of this is that Greg Norman is told to go to hell.
Quote from: MU82 on June 06, 2023, 02:23:07 PM
I told my son that hopefully the only good that comes out of this is that Greg Norman is told to go to hell.
LIV is dead. Saudi's don't need it anymore. They're in the game
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 06, 2023, 11:32:22 AM
Rocket has made it clear he doesn't believe golf is gentlemanly
you're such a loser-you don't know a damn thing about me and my attitude toward golf
Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 06, 2023, 02:50:55 PM
you're such a loser-you don't know a damn thing about me and my attitude toward golf
No, you've made it abundantly clear
This sucks on so many levels. Monaghan is such a hypocrite, Sauidis can continue their global sports washing.
Monahan being trashed by players and media.
On the other hand, LIV is out of business and the defectors are not immediately back on tour. How much $ do the defectors have to return?
Quote from: tower912 on June 06, 2023, 05:06:55 PM
Monahan being trashed by players and media.
Will the LIV guys even come back? One of the reasons they left was so they could have more family time. Cam Smith was pretty adamant about how great it was to spend more time with his mates in Australia. Can't imagine he'll want to grind on tour again
Initial reports are that the European LIV players will not be eligible for the Ryder Cup.
Quote from: tower912 on June 06, 2023, 05:20:51 PM
Initial reports are that the European LIV players will not be eligible for the Ryder Cup.
Off the top of my head, so? Sergio, I guess? Casey?
Yeah, not a huge loss. Long term, captaincies?
Quote from: tower912 on June 06, 2023, 05:26:31 PM
Yeah, not a huge loss. Long term, captaincies?
They'll get them now. Ryder Cup in Jeddha will be amazing
Quote from: tower912 on June 06, 2023, 05:06:55 PM
Monahan being trashed by players and media.
On the other hand, LIV is out of business and the defectors are not immediately back on tour. How much $ do the defectors have to return?
I'd guess they will return about $0.
Could PGA membership dismiss Monaghan?
I heard about a minute snippet of the guy and was not remotely impressed by anything he said.
I think so. But to what end? Could a new commissioner undo the deal? Then what?
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 06, 2023, 06:02:50 PM
Could PGA membership dismiss Monaghan?
I heard about a minute snippet of the guy and was not remotely impressed by anything he said.
Maybe the Saudis bought up all of his debts too?
Quote from: MUBurrow on June 06, 2023, 06:18:54 PM
Maybe the Saudis bought up all of his debts too?
I've gotta tell you....and I've just caught bits on pga radio today but I think I'm done watching the sport. Obviously Monaghan is a hypocritical scumbag but I'm also astounded at some of the media remarks that I've heard. Other than someone I've never heard of, Eamon Lynch?, you would think these people were just handed a million dollars in cash? Freaking crazy. It's as if I'm listening to an SNL satire! "it's not about the short-term, it's about 10 years from now" uttered Monaghan. Does he even fking realize that's EXACTLY the freaking point of sportswashing????? You can't make this stuff up!!
Shocked that an organization run by wealthy elitists to benefit wealtty elitists wasn't sincere in its stance on human rights.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 06, 2023, 06:47:23 PM
I've gotta tell you....and I've just caught bits on pga radio today but I think I'm done watching the sport. Obviously Monaghan is a hypocritical scumbag but I'm also astounded at some of the media remarks that I've heard. Other than someone I've never heard of, Eamon Lynch?, you would think these people were just handed a million dollars in cash? Freaking crazy. It's as if I'm listening to an SNL satire! "it's not about the short-term, it's about 10 years from now" uttered Monaghan. Does he even fking realize that's EXACTLY the freaking point of sportswashing????? You can't make this stuff up!!
It's ok. You buy sneakers from China
I live near lots of PGA Tour top brass. These guys have had a highly compensated personal fiefdom with no accountability for many years . Excellent work if you can get it.This was always about the money from all sides .
PGA tour players should be kissing Greg Norman's gluteus . They are all better off.
DP World Tour also getting a big upgrade.
Just finished several days at Pinehurst and everyone there is pumped that this is settled before 2024 US Open
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 06, 2023, 07:01:12 PM
It's ok. You buy sneakers from China
That's not the same thing.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 06, 2023, 07:12:38 PM
I live near lots of PGA Tour top brass. These guys have had a highly compensated personal fiefdom with no accountability for many years . Excellent work if you can get it.This was always about the money from all sides .
PGA tour players should be kissing Greg Norman's gluteus . They are all better off.
DP World Tour also getting a big upgrade.
Just finished several days at Pinehurst and everyone there is pumped that this is settled before 2024 US Open
What are the upgrades for the DP World Tour? What are the specific upgrades? Please share the details.
It will be interesting to see now many gazillionaire CEOs continue to have their companies sponsor tournaments.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 06, 2023, 07:12:38 PM
I live near lots of PGA Tour top brass.
Of course you do.
Bob Parsons is in a fix.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 06, 2023, 06:47:23 PM
I've gotta tell you....and I've just caught bits on pga radio today but I think I'm done watching the sport. Obviously Monaghan is a hypocritical scumbag but I'm also astounded at some of the media remarks that I've heard. Other than someone I've never heard of, Eamon Lynch?, you would think these people were just handed a million dollars in cash? Freaking crazy. It's as if I'm listening to an SNL satire! "it's not about the short-term, it's about 10 years from now" uttered Monaghan. Does he even fking realize that's EXACTLY the freaking point of sportswashing????? You can't make this stuff up!!
I totally respect you position and it is completely understandable, as long as you have not been a fan or supporter of the PGA or NBA who have relationships with China. And I assume you have spoke out about the Democrats and Republicans who have supported the relationship, including selling arms, with Saudi Arabia.
If you are that consistent in your ethical standards, great for you. I know someone else who is and he is no fan of the NBA and PGA. He likes the sports but dislikes the professional organizations due to their tolerance of the China government and its practice of 'sportswashing'.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on June 06, 2023, 08:44:23 PM
I totally respect you position and it is completely understandable, as long as you have not been a fan or supporter of the PGA or NBA who have relationships with China. And I assume you have spoke out about the Democrats and Republicans who have supported the relationship, including selling arms, with Saudi Arabia.
If you are that consistent in your ethical standards, great for you. I know someone else who is and he is no fan of the NBA and PGA. He likes the sports but dislikes the professional organizations due to their tolerance of the China government and its practice of 'sportswashing'.
I love basketball and watch the NBA. I understand their hypocrisy as well and am no fan of their leadership. But in this particular situation with golf I think it's more nuanced when individuals and the entire sport are being funded by the House of Saud.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 06, 2023, 07:12:38 PM
PGA tour players should be kissing Greg Norman's gluteus . They are all better off.
This is only true if you assume they are all craven whores. Every significant PGA tour player that did not jump to LIV made that decision at personal, financial expense. I think it is fair to assume that they made that decision at least in part for moral reasons - LIV was willing to pay whoever would jump. To now call them "better off" because they're getting more money from the Saudis, despite their previous decision to forego that, is pretty demeaning.
Quote from: MUBurrow on June 06, 2023, 08:58:54 PM
This is only true if you assume they are all craven whores. Every significant PGA tour player that did not jump to LIV made that decision at personal, financial expense. I think it is fair to assume that they made that decision at least in part for moral reasons - LIV was willing to pay whoever would jump. To now call them "better off" because they're getting more money from the Saudis, despite their previous decision to forego that, is pretty demeaning.
Greg Norman wanted to destroy the PGA Tour but in the end, destroyed his reputation and place in the game. There's no place left for him.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 06, 2023, 09:05:26 PM
Greg Norman wanted to destroy the PGA Tour but in the end, destroyed his reputation and place in the game. There's no place left for him.
He also destroyed the PGA tour.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 06, 2023, 08:52:23 PM
I love basketball and watch the NBA. I understand their hypocrisy as well and am no fan of their leadership. . But in this particular situation with golf I think it's more nuanced when individuals and the entire sport are being funded by the House of Saud.
I get it. IMHO, there were enough reasons to dislike LIV without painting ourselves into a corner on the ethical issues.
Personally, I was enjoying watching LIV wither on the vine and looking forward to its failure. I don't like Monaghan for doing this deal and mismanaging the PGA for years. I have a gut feeling it will come to light the Monaghan and the PGA brass are pocketing huge money.
To be fully honest, I give the LIV credit for forcing some changes and giving PGA players a more equitable share of the pie, but that's the only silver lining I see.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 06, 2023, 09:05:26 PM
Greg Norman wanted to destroy the PGA Tour but in the end, destroyed his reputation and place in the game. There's no place left for him.
The guy is a putz........... a putz with $300 million. >:(
That written statement by Monahan specifically about his hypocrisy is literally the most pathetic thing I've ever heard.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 06, 2023, 06:54:20 PM
Shocked that an organization run by wealthy elitists to benefit wealtty elitists wasn't sincere in its stance on human rights.
I am amazed that so many are surprised, honestly.
Everyone has a price. Literally, everyone.
Welp
Making SMU proud
https://twitter.com/troncarternlu/status/1666405114490286080?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 06, 2023, 07:24:35 PM
What are the upgrades for the DP World Tour? What are the specific upgrades? Please share the details.
DP was losing lots of its high profile talent to LIV, had become a feeder tour to PGA Tour. Their Ryder Cup team , which is a big deal on their tour, was withering. The DP had almost had become a Korn Ferry Tour 2.0. All that reduces value to Sponsors.
Now they will regain access to their talent, with coordinated schedules will have an equal footing with PGA Tour and LIV and as result will most likely gain sponsors.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 07, 2023, 07:44:15 AM
Making SMU proud
https://twitter.com/troncarternlu/status/1666405114490286080?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Oof...
But how does "the game of golf" win here? How does it "grow the game?" (I don't think he knows the answers to these question either BTW.)
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 07, 2023, 07:55:48 AM
DP was losing lots of its high profile talent to LIV, had become a feeder tour to PGA Tour. Their Ryder Cup team , which is a big deal on their tour, was withering. The DP had almost had become a Korn Ferry Tour 2.0. All that reduces value to Sponsors.
Now they will regain access to their talent, with coordinated schedules will have an equal footing with PGA Tour and LIV and as result will most likely gain sponsors.
None of that has been reported as to happening. The only hinted scheduling is there will no longer be LIV events going up against either.
What young players did they lose to LIV hurt the Ryder Cup? Horsfeld? The rest were aging out.
The top players had long ago left the DP World Tour to play in the US. How is that going to change? Where are the specifics that even hint at this changing?
Also, LIV is dead, so it probably doesn't want to have equal footing.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on June 07, 2023, 07:56:32 AM
Oof...
But how does "the game of golf" win here? How does it "grow the game?" (I don't think he knows the answers to these question either BTW.)
He's an idiot.
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 07, 2023, 07:39:31 AM
Welp
Yep.
This is why comparisons to the NBA/China fail.
This isn't hosting an exhibition tournament in Riyadh. It isn't broadcasting tournaments in the kingdom. It's not even entering commercial relationships with Saudi entities.
This is closer to selling the NBA to the CCP.
The Saudi government and their PIF will essentially own the sport of golf. Keep in mind they offered Matsuyama 300m, Rickie Fowler turned down 75m, and Rory and Tiger probably could have gotten what close to 2B? They have unlimited funds. They could set up tournaments with prize money and their stupid 54 hole set-up with purses will make the Masters look like a skins payout among recreational golfers. Will there even be cuts anymore? What exactly happens to the non-stars and those trying to make tbe Tour? And how about this partnership between the PGA and LPGA? I'm sure that's going to be fine and dandy.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 07, 2023, 08:56:59 AM
The Saudi government and their PIF will essentially own the sport of golf. Keep in mind they offered Matsuyama 300m, Rickie Fowler turned down 75m, and Rory and Tiger probably could have gotten what close to 2B? They have unlimited funds. They could set up tournaments with prize money and their stupid 54 hole set-up with purses will make the Masters look like a skins payout among recreational golfers. Will there even be cuts anymore? What exactly happens to the non-stars and those trying to make tbe Tour? And how about this partnership between the PGA and LPGA? I'm sure that's going to be fine and dandy.
That's the whole point of this. The dream of a top players series that works within the framework of the PGA and DP World Tours.
My guess is that there will be a series of 8-10 events worldwide for the top 50 players. Perhaps it will still be branded LIV or it could have a new name. I think it will look like the old WGC events, 72 holes, but no cut. The money will be huge and funded from PIF. The old sponsor worries that the Tour had with old WGC events is now gone.
I wonder how many wealthy Wall St guys are looking at this as opportunity to challenge the new tour. It was reported a wealthy hedge fun guy was willing to invest a billion to start a Liv type tour and backed out because of a friendship with Monahan. Right now, the PGA has a long list of angry golfers and some angry fans. IMO, the PGA brand has lost a lot of value over the past 24 hours, and I hope someone out there gives them a run for their money.
I never was a guy that upset over the money paid to the Liv guys or where the money came from. My gripe was that Liv diminished the legacy of the PGA tour. I would not have disliked Liv any less if a hedge fund guy had started it and had the same format.
As we sit here today, I would love to see someone take this an opportunity to challenge the PGA tour. It is obvious the PGA has made a lot of money over the years, even with being run by idiots. Smart money guys could make a fortune with a new tour. I could come up with a nice list of great ideas to market a new league.
Quote from: Goose on June 07, 2023, 10:43:04 AM
I wonder how many wealthy Wall St guys are looking at this as opportunity to challenge the new tour. It was reported a wealthy hedge fun guy was willing to invest a billion to start a Liv type tour and backed out because of a friendship with Monahan. Right now, the PGA has a long list of angry golfers and some angry fans. IMO, the PGA brand has lost a lot of value over the past 24 hours, and I hope someone out there gives them a run for their money.
I never was a guy that upset over the money paid to the Liv guys or where the money came from. My gripe was that Liv diminished the legacy of the PGA tour. I would not have disliked Liv any less if a hedge fund guy had started it and had the same format.
As we sit here today, I would love to see someone take this an opportunity to challenge the PGA tour. It is obvious the PGA has made a lot of money over the years, even with being run by idiots. Smart money guys could make a fortune with a new tour. I could come up with a nice list of great ideas to market a new league.
See: Andy Gardiner and the PGL
Quote from: Goose on June 07, 2023, 10:43:04 AM
I wonder how many wealthy Wall St guys are looking at this as opportunity to challenge the new tour. It was reported a wealthy hedge fun guy was willing to invest a billion to start a Liv type tour and backed out because of a friendship with Monahan. Right now, the PGA has a long list of angry golfers and some angry fans. IMO, the PGA brand has lost a lot of value over the past 24 hours, and I hope someone out there gives them a run for their money.
I never was a guy that upset over the money paid to the Liv guys or where the money came from. My gripe was that Liv diminished the legacy of the PGA tour. I would not have disliked Liv any less if a hedge fund guy had started it and had the same format.
As we sit here today, I would love to see someone take this an opportunity to challenge the PGA tour. It is obvious the PGA has made a lot of money over the years, even with being run by idiots. Smart money guys could make a fortune with a new tour. I could come up with a nice list of great ideas to market a new league.
Would be a bad bet, Goose. With the Saudi's funds, the Tour basically now has unlimited capital to pour into their top players. Sure, some players are pissed today, but I doubt that lasts. And, even if it does, it only matters what the top guys that stayed loyal to the Tour think. The McKenzie Hughes of the world can be as mad as they want, but they don't matter. Just see Rory's positive reaction today to the news.
The only way an alternative league would have a chance is if the Tour's long-time sponsors and media partners were to now back away after this Saudi deal. That could provide an opening. However, I don't see that happening.
RJax55
I do not completely disagree with you, but the world has changed a great deal over the past few years. Ask BudLight, Target and others about pissing people off. IMO, one of the biggest mistakes made by the clown at the PGA was taking the 9/11 path as a selling point for the PGA. As I mentioned, the Saudi money was not my issue with Liv because blood money is everywhere in all of our lives. But using the 9/11 families and then taking the money is beyond a very bad look.
I think as fans digest the news, we are going to see more pissed off fans and potentially sponsors. Add that with the complete money grab and they might face more heat in the media and from fans. IMO, this is going to turn into a media nightmare for the PGA as more is learned about the deal. One other point going against them, there are people that feel badly that very wealthy guys turned down billions of dollars to be loyal and then were sold out. It is not often you will see average people feeling badly someone turned down $300m or $75m or $20m for the sake of being loyal.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 07, 2023, 08:11:40 AM
None of that has been reported as to happening. The only hinted scheduling is there will no longer be LIV events going up against either.
What young players did they lose to LIV hurt the Ryder Cup? Horsfeld? The rest were aging out.
The top players had long ago left the DP World Tour to play in the US. How is that going to change? Where are the specifics that even hint at this changing?
Also, LIV is dead, so it probably doesn't want to have equal footing.
Scheduling is the heart of the deal. New entity will optimize all brands PGA Tour, DP World Tour and whatever they call the Team Brand. Better logistically to maximize ad dollars
My guess is bottom half of PGA Tour players will be moved onto DP Tour and DP Tour will have events in US .
The aging Europe Ryder Cup players contributed the majority of their points at Whistling Straights . The PR value of a future Ryder Cup with America captained by Tiger versus Euro Villain Sergio is incalculable . Poulter will also be a great captain for them. Euros have a whole system of Captains and Vice Captains and they need the Westwoods and Caseys of the world for that
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 07, 2023, 02:32:40 PM
Scheduling is the heart of the deal. New entity will optimize all brands PGA Tour, DP World Tour and whatever they call the Team Brand. Better logistically to maximize ad dollars
My guess is bottom half of PGA Tour players will be moved onto DP Tour and DP Tour will have events in US .
The aging Europe Ryder Cup players contributed the majority of their points at Whistling Straights . The PR value of a future Ryder Cup with America captained by Tiger versus Euro Villain Sergio is incalculable . Poulter will also be a great captain for them. Euros have a whole system of Captains and Vice Captains and they need the Westwoods and Caseys of the world for that
So, you're guessing is what you're saying and have no facts about the sponsors or schedule. Current sponsors may not re-up, other sponsors may not want the negative publicity of a Saudi-backed league. Again, there are ZERO details of a schedule either.
Secondly, the DOJ may very well not let this "merger" happen.
Sergio and Poults ain't gonna be captains as long as Rory is on the team. That ship sailed a long time ago. And if you think Tiger is going to be captain and glad hand with Sergio as his opponent, you haven't been paying attention at all. None of the Saudi boys will be on the 2023 Team Europe Ryder Cup team.
If this is allowable, where's the line for foreign entities owning an entire US industry? Is it based on the industry type? Or which foreign entity?
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 07, 2023, 04:25:28 PM
If this is allowable, where's the line for foreign entities owning an entire US industry? Is it based on the industry type? Or which foreign entity?
Technically, the PIF is independent of the Saudi Government
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 07, 2023, 02:42:05 PM
So, you're guessing is what you're saying and have no facts about the sponsors or schedule. Current sponsors may not re-up, other sponsors may not want the negative publicity of a Saudi-backed league. Again, there are ZERO details of a schedule either.
Secondly, the DOJ may very well not let this "merger" happen.
Sergio and Poults ain't gonna be captains as long as Rory is on the team. That ship sailed a long time ago. And if you think Tiger is going to be captain and glad hand with Sergio as his opponent, you haven't been paying attention at all. None of the Saudi boys will be on the 2023 Team Europe Ryder Cup team.
Of course I am guessing. However DP World which is a big sponsor clearly does not care about Saudi Arabia , neither does others like Emirates Air or Rolex who sells a lot of watches to Saudi Royals
I am also saying the opposite about Tiger and Sergio in that it will be nasty and that is great reality TV.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 07, 2023, 06:01:30 PM
Of course I am guessing. However DP World which is a big sponsor clearly does not care about Saudi Arabia , neither does others like Emirates Air or Rolex who sells a lot of watches to Saudi Royals
I am also saying the opposite about Tiger and Sergio in that it will be nasty and that is great reality TV.
So you don't know if the deal is good. Got it.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 07, 2023, 06:12:52 PM
So you don't know if the deal is good. Got it.
I think this deal is based on the concept of not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
I think this is an excellent deal for all parties involved . All the Tours , The Players , The Majors, The Charities and The Public.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 07, 2023, 06:37:40 PM
I think this deal is based on the concept of not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
I think this is an excellent deal for all parties involved . All the Tours , The Players , The Majors, The Charities and The Public.
No details, no schedule, no idea where guys can play, no idea what events will be kept, no idea who still has jobs, no idea about who is really in charge. But excellent for everyone.
To me, it looks like Monahan and the rest of the PGA pooh-bahs thought they might get crushed in court. Not only could they have lost some expensive -- and perhaps catastrophic -- litigation, but the tour's private communications and financials would have gotten a public airing.
As for McIlroy, in the interview I saw, he used the word "resigned." He sounded way more beaten down than angry, felt he was used and duped. I'm wondering if he was tipped off in advance that something was going down. Maybe he wasn't given all the info, but some. Because his reaction sure seemed muted for a guy who spent most of the last year angry as hell about all things LIV.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 07, 2023, 06:45:12 PM
No details, no schedule, no idea where guys can play, no idea what events will be kept, no idea who still has jobs, no idea about who is really in charge. But excellent for everyone.
The guys who put this deal together for The PGA Tour are as bright as they come. The details don't matter at this point . The litigation is over , The PGA Tour got a lot of new capital and that will solve any temporarily bruised feelings . Saudi guys get to own a whole league which is all they care about. They are more than happy to let PGA Tour run it.
The average sports fan only follows The Majors and they will all be fine . Players Championship ,which is a big money maker for PGA Tour ,will be able to get back to a full field. All the over the hill LIV guys over 50 will be able to go back to Champions Tour.
My guess is Greg Norman will be thrown under the bus , but will be compensated well for his efforts .
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 07, 2023, 07:21:16 PM
The guys who put this deal together for The PGA Tour are as bright as they come. The details don't matter at this point . The litigation is over , The PGA Tour got a lot of new capital and that will solve any temporarily bruised feelings . Saudi guys get to own a whole league which is all they care about. They are more than happy to let PGA Tour run it.
The average sports fan only follows The Majors and they will all be fine . Players Championship ,which is a big money maker for PGA Tour ,will be able to get back to a full field. All the over the hill LIV guys over 50 will be able to go back to Champions Tour.
My guess is Greg Norman will be thrown under the bus , but will be compensated well for his efforts .
Details matter to the DOJ
You should ask your neighbors and give us the details.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 07, 2023, 08:13:56 PM
You should ask your neighbors and give us the details.
When I hear something you will be first to know.
i can't believe so many people had so much faith in monahan! the pga had a HUGE cash flow. i guess because many of the players have been able to swing their own "NIL" type deals, they didn't seem to pay much attention.
the pga is a 1.5 billion dollar business whose non profit status has been questioned as it has been reported that they donate less than 20% to charity
it will be interesting to see who takes over monahan's position but they will need a new bed as he completely chit all over his.
jack nicklaus, who is widely respected says this PGA-LIV relationship is "good for the game of golf". he is obviously a jay monahan slurper trying to salvage what respect he can. brave man as he is putting his entire golf career on the line.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 08, 2023, 05:48:29 AM
i can't believe so many people had so much faith in monahan! the pga had a HUGE cash flow. i guess because many of the players have been able to swing their own "NIL" type deals, they didn't seem to pay much attention.
the pga is a 1.5 billion dollar business whose non profit status has been questioned as it has been reported that they donate less than 20% to charity
it will be interesting to see who takes over monahan's position but they will need a new bed as he completely chit all over his.
jack nicklaus, who is widely respected says this PGA-LIV relationship is "good for the game of golf". he is obviously a jay monahan slurper trying to salvage what respect he can. brave man as he is putting his entire golf career on the line.
Yes, Jack Nicklaus has put his entire golf career on the line.
Of all the idiotic, stupid, asinine things you've typed on this board, this might be your Mona Lisa. Good lord
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 08, 2023, 07:33:20 AM
Yes, Jack Nicklaus has put his entire golf career on the line.
Of all the idiotic, stupid, asinine things you've typed on this board, this might be your Mona Lisa. Good lord
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63934.msg1555383#msg1555383
Interesting read about Saudi finances. A lot to digest but a different perspective
https://chiefexecutive.net/the-rest-of-the-story-the-overlooked-saudi-sand-trap-behind-the-golf-treaty/
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 08, 2023, 07:33:20 AM
Yes, Jack Nicklaus has put his entire golf career on the line.
Of all the idiotic, stupid, asinine things you've typed on this board, this might be your Mona Lisa. Good lord
keep forgetting, reeko is the bellwether of the board. pass everything thru him and is it Good lord or good Lord or Good Lord? regardless, you ain't all you think you is dude
Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 08, 2023, 08:58:35 AM
keep forgetting, reeko is the bellwether of the board. pass everything thru him and is it Good lord or good Lord or Good Lord? regardless, you ain't all you think you is dude
Actually, I am
I'm a little jealous.
rocket
Jack was my golfing idol growing up and I love/loved everything about his golfing career. To be honest, his statement on the merger the other day pissed me off. Only a week ago he was chirping about not caring the Liv guys were not in Dublin and for the most part he had written them off as not being PGA players any longer. Of all that has happened this week in golf the statement by Jack was the most disappointing to me.
I remember when Jack came to the GMO in the 1980's (left with a nice check from Jane Pettit) and I watched him play every hole over the weekend. I drove 100's of miles to watch him play in US Open in Chicago, at Arnie's tournament and elsewhere because I thought he changed the game. As I sit here today, I will say my opinion of Jack slipped this week and that disappoints me.
Again, I am an old school golf guy and love the history and tradition of the sport far more than I care about how much money these guys get paid. IMO, the world of professional golf will never be the same and I think that sucks. I realize I very likely in the minority on two points, #1 I do not care where the Liv money came from and #2 I think Liv is great for the players and bad for folks that love the history and tradition of the game.
Quote from: Goose on June 08, 2023, 09:57:40 AM
rocket
Jack was my golfing idol growing up and I love/loved everything about his golfing career. To be honest, his statement on the merger the other day pissed me off. Only a week ago he was chirping about not caring the Liv guys were not in Dublin and for the most part he had written them off as not being PGA players any longer. Of all that has happened this week in golf the statement by Jack was the most disappointing to me.
I remember when Jack came to the GMO in the 1980's (left with a nice check from Jane Pettit) and I watched him play every hole over the weekend. I drove 100's of miles to watch him play in US Open in Chicago, at Arnie's tournament and elsewhere because I thought he changed the game. As I sit here today, I will say my opinion of Jack slipped this week and that disappoints me.
Again, I am an old school golf guy and love the history and tradition of the sport far more than I care about how much money these guys get paid. IMO, the world of professional golf will never be the same and I think that sucks. I realize I very likely in the minority on two points, #1 I do not care where the Liv money came from and #2 I think Liv is great for the players and bad for folks that love the history and tradition of the game.
If Arnie were still here...
Rico
If Arnie was still here and said what Jack said I probably would be closer to buyer of the idea. I'll take Arnie the businessman over Jack seven days week. Plus, every time I saw Arnie tear up talking about what golf meant to him was a big influence in my golfing life.
Quote from: Goose on June 08, 2023, 10:30:34 AM
Rico
If Arnie was still here and said what Jack said I probably would be closer to buyer of the idea. I'll take Arnie the businessman over Jack seven days week. Plus, every time I saw Arnie tear up talking about what golf meant to him was a big influence in my golfing life.
A big reason this started gathering steam a few years back was the lack of Arnie. Arnie had warts but I believed him being a steward of the game. His voice carried a lot of weight.
I think that could have been Tom Watson or Ben Crenshaw's role to inherit had they chosen to. Crenshaw and his role at Augusta and golf course design have a lot of respect and ears. Watson was done after FIGJAM drove the bus over him in 2014.
Jack has always been about Jack and that's part of what made him great but he's always chased the dollar bills. He'd have taken an active role in LIV had he not been talked out of it. His place in golf is secure and will always be admired as a player. His charitable work is second to none as well, but I think most inside the game realize Jack was no Arnie
Rico
No doubt Arnie had plenty of warts, but it sure seemed he tried his best to give back to the game until the day he died. there has been a big void on top since Arnie went off the air and this is why Liv came to life.
I miss Arnie. I just watched the other day the last time he was interviewed at St. Andrews and I always love seeing that video. I also drove, and flew, many times to see Arnie in person and loved every minute of it. Shook his hands maybe ten times and remember him kissing my Mom at the airport in Palm Springs. He was one cool dude.
More interesting reading
https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/the-saudi-pga-golf-deal-isnt-going?utm_medium=email
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 08, 2023, 11:50:57 AM
More interesting reading
https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/the-saudi-pga-golf-deal-isnt-going?utm_medium=email
Ever since a few details started to emerge about the merger, I also have wondered if regulators would gonna let one monopoly be replaced by an even larger one -- one funded by a foreign country interested mainly in sportswashing. It will be interesting to see what happens.
Quote from: MU82 on June 08, 2023, 01:17:03 PM
Ever since a few details started to emerge about the merger, I also have wondered if regulators would gonna let one monopoly be replaced by an even larger one -- one funded by a foreign country interested mainly in sportswashing. It will be interesting to see what happens.
Do you trust the attorneys and investment bankers LIV and the PGA can afford or The Big Newsletter?
My heart says The Big Newsletter; my head, not so much.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on June 08, 2023, 01:58:50 PM
Do you trust the attorneys and investment bankers LIV and the PGA can afford or The Big Newsletter?
My heart says The Big Newsletter; my head, not so much.
Given the past two years and the haphazard way golf has been run professionally, asking how well thought out this is, is a fair question.
Given how the rollout has gone, yes, I have my doubts
Quote from: WhiteTrash on June 08, 2023, 01:58:50 PM
Do you trust the attorneys and investment bankers LIV and the PGA can afford or The Big Newsletter?
My heart says The Big Newsletter; my head, not so much.
Given the ridiculous amount of lobbying the Saudis have done in the last decade? I'm gonna go ahead and say the DOJ will let this one slide
Quote from: MU82 on June 08, 2023, 01:17:03 PM
Ever since a few details started to emerge about the merger, I also have wondered if regulators would gonna let one monopoly be replaced by an even larger one -- one funded by a foreign country interested mainly in sportswashing. It will be interesting to see what happens.
This deal is unwinding the present restraint of trade that the PGA Tour has fully imposed on its players . So now players can play on any tour they qualify for .
Jack's a respected golf authority?
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 08, 2023, 02:41:56 PM
This deal is unwinding the present restraint of trade that the PGA Tour has fully imposed on its players . So now players can play on any tour they qualify for .
Lol
Greg Norman apparently stated: "LIV isn't going anywhere." LOL. Was this quote a year ago or today? Norman was played like a violin. He reminds me of Carlo in the Godfather. He's probably checking to see if Clemenza is in the back seat of his car.
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3470167/hell-of-a-break-producer-of-full-swing-confirms-cameras-were-rolling-in-players-cars-and-houses-when-the-liv-merger-was-announced
Quote from: Goose on June 08, 2023, 09:57:40 AM
rocket
Jack was my golfing idol growing up and I love/loved everything about his golfing career. To be honest, his statement on the merger the other day pissed me off. Only a week ago he was chirping about not caring the Liv guys were not in Dublin and for the most part he had written them off as not being PGA players any longer. Of all that has happened this week in golf the statement by Jack was the most disappointing to me.
I remember when Jack came to the GMO in the 1980's (left with a nice check from Jane Pettit) and I watched him play every hole over the weekend. I drove 100's of miles to watch him play in US Open in Chicago, at Arnie's tournament and elsewhere because I thought he changed the game. As I sit here today, I will say my opinion of Jack slipped this week and that disappoints me.
Again, I am an old school golf guy and love the history and tradition of the sport far more than I care about how much money these guys get paid. IMO, the world of professional golf will never be the same and I think that sucks. I realize I very likely in the minority on two points, #1 I do not care where the Liv money came from and #2 I think Liv is great for the players and bad for folks that love the history and tradition of the game.
great stuff goose! let's go hit the mashie and have a slab of meat!
Raucous crowd at the RBC Canadian Open. Rory having a good round . Rory trying for a Canadian three peat
Monahan saying that the lawsuits were bleeding the tour dry.
Quote from: tower912 on June 10, 2023, 05:30:29 PM
Monahan saying that the lawsuits were bleeding the tour dry.
Sort of believe that. Think that's an excuse to a certain degree.
Also know Saudi's didn't want to have to go under oath. Know Kushner family didn't want a look at the books.
Lot of parties terrified
After some research, my early analysis is that PIF realized LIV had no chance of ever making a profit. This deal is a way to stop the bleeding after this season. PIF saves face by getting Chairmanship of a Board controlled by PGA Tour
No actual money is changing hands . PGA Tour is valued and what ever properties PIF has are valued . LIV probably worth nothing and their Asian Tour events worth very little . Monahan and non defecting players get equity in new venture. LIV is eliminated . LIV golfers come back with tail between legs paying fines and being treated like Germans after World War I. Norman becomes Persona Non Grata
PIF may or may not put new capital in the venture.
DOJ will investigate . PGA Tour Charity beneficiaries will lobby heavily for the deal. PIF may have to put capital in LPGA Tour as a political fig leaf
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 10, 2023, 09:07:50 PM
After some research, my early analysis is that PIF realized LIV had no chance of ever making a profit. This deal is a way to stop the bleeding after this season. PIF saves face by getting Chairmanship of a Board controlled by PGA Tour
No actual money is changing hands . PGA Tour is valued and what ever properties PIF has are valued . LIV probably worth nothing and their Asian Tour events worth very little . Monahan and non defecting players get equity in new venture. LIV is eliminated . LIV golfers come back with tail between legs paying fines and being treated like Germans after World War I. Norman becomes Persona Non Grata
PIF may or may not put new capital in the venture.
DOJ will investigate . PGA Tour Charity beneficiaries will lobby heavily for the deal. PIF may have to put capital in LPGA Tour as a political fig leaf
I think you should keep researching, or maybe do less, the answer is glaring.
Canadian Nick Taylor leading Canadian Open by 2. If Nick wins he would be the first Canadian to win their National Open since 1954.
to make the putt taylor just did takes some stones and a little bit of talent ;D
Fairway Jesus and Taylor heading to second playoff hole . Incredible birdies on the first.
Heading to fourth playoff hole. Love how the Canadian and Euro teammates ate supporting their respective guys
Wow
72 feet of HELLO-good night
Sergio crawling back to PGA Tour/DP World Tour.....
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/golf/12901334/sergio-garcia-eyes-pga-tour-return-if-theres-no-liv-golf-i-have-to-go-somewhere
Jay Monahan medical situation
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/jay-monahan-medical-situation
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/phil-mickelson-accused-showing-pat-perezs-wife-offensive-picture-dinner
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 21, 2023, 11:53:03 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/phil-mickelson-accused-showing-pat-perezs-wife-offensive-picture-dinner
Phil and Amy are swingers. The People's Champ and famous family man loves getting young pros to join the fun
Pat Perez ain't young.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 21, 2023, 12:01:49 PM
Phil and Amy are swingers. The People's Champ and famous family man loves getting young pros to join the fun
Since Phil and Perz are on the same tour this should be their theme song
LIVing Loving.....
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-8MCijoQpfA&feature=share9
Quote from: tower912 on June 21, 2023, 12:06:15 PM
Pat Perez ain't young.
Nope, but Phil needs some loving, too. Amy gets most of the action while he watches
Any of you going to the US Senior Open in Point the last week of June? Had planned to go but got stuck having to stay in Seattle. Will be cool to see a course (and likely many locals in the crowd) I know pretty well on TV.
Have to admit is was weird seeing advertisements for the US Senior open with Stevens Point / Sentryworld superimposed on the screen next to the LA skyline during the US open telecast.
Damn. Forgot to sign up.
Rose Zhang just hit a missile into 18 at Baltusrol (terrible Championship course), setting up an eagle putt to try and get to -2 at the KPMG Ladies PGA
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 22, 2023, 01:15:43 PM
Rose Zhang just hit a missile into 18 at Baltusrol (terrible Championship course), setting up an eagle putt to try and get to -2 at the KPMG Ladies PGA
They restored Baltusrol lower for this Championship
https://twitter.com/bigrandynlu/status/1672312038314618881?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Can't wait to see her on the Solheim Cup Team 🤢
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 23, 2023, 02:03:00 PM
https://twitter.com/bigrandynlu/status/1672312038314618881?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Way to hit the cut-off man.......
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 23, 2023, 02:03:00 PM
https://twitter.com/bigrandynlu/status/1672312038314618881?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Can't wait to see her on the Solheim Cup Team 🤢
Ughhhhhhh....
She has been putting like that all year.
Quote from: tower912 on June 23, 2023, 04:19:57 PM
She has been putting like that all year.
No lead for her will ever be safe
Quote from: tower912 on June 23, 2023, 04:19:57 PM
She has been putting like that all year.
Unfortunate for someone so talented.
Lexi made the cur with a rally
https://www.si.com/golf/news/lexi-thompson-kpmg-womens-pga-championship-2023-birdie-train
Zhang appears to be the real deal.
Sergio and Rory Bromance back together
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/-i-have-that-friend-back---sergio-garcia-and-rory-mcilroy-s-feud/amp
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 28, 2023, 12:59:18 PM
Sergio and Rory Bromance back together
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/-i-have-that-friend-back---sergio-garcia-and-rory-mcilroy-s-feud/amp
Given Sergio's history, give it a week
Looks like they set up Sentry World to be a pain in the butt US Senior Open test. Are there still COVID restrictions in Wisconsin? No fans on site.
Quote from: tower912 on June 30, 2023, 06:26:47 PM
Looks like they set up Sentry World to be a pain in the butt US Senior Open test. Are there still COVID restrictions in Wisconsin? No fans on site.
Quite different than the usual Champions Tour hit and giggle.
Langer in the lead. Incredible at 65.
Quote from: tower912 on June 30, 2023, 06:26:47 PM
Looks like they set up Sentry World to be a pain in the butt US Senior Open test. Are there still COVID restrictions in Wisconsin? No fans on site.
Not sure how much infrastructure they can put out there. Was surprised they chose that venue. Not that it isn't capable of being a championship course, just that its location and space is, well, Stevens Point.
Also, not a destination venue to see. I'm a golf nut but I'm not traveling to see the old farts play SentryWorld. Pebble? Oakmont? Sure
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 01, 2023, 07:24:20 AM
Not sure how much infrastructure they can put out there. Was surprised they chose that venue. Not that it isn't capable of being a championship course, just that its location and space is, well, Stevens Point.
Also, not a destination venue to see. I'm a golf nut but I'm not traveling to see the old farts play SentryWorld. Pebble? Oakmont? Sure
pretty short sighted here reeko. the state of wisconsin has become a golf destination. when sand valley started to take shape, my biggest complaint was infrastructure. now look at it. they are building infrastructure around a complex of world class golf courses. not to mention the other courses they already have in the vicinity-lake arrowhead, northern bay, among others. this is all on the way from blackwolf run and whistling straights. then there are the courses at wisconsin dells-wild rock, trappers turn and cold water canyon.
for golf crazies going to the senior open can very easily be planned around trips to any number of the courses mentioned
having the event during summerfest (yes ,i know that's 2 hours away) is another draw.
sentry world is a great/unique course. i have to agree however, it may not be set up very well for spectator events.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 01, 2023, 07:24:20 AM
Not sure how much infrastructure they can put out there. Was surprised they chose that venue. Not that it isn't capable of being a championship course, just that its location and space is, well, Stevens Point.
Also, not a destination venue to see. I'm a golf nut but I'm not traveling to see the old farts play SentryWorld. Pebble? Oakmont? Sure
Yeah it's weird because when Sentry first opened it was probably the course that people thought would host the next major in Wisconsin. But that was 35 years ago.
Having been exposed to some of the leadership at Sentry Insurance over the years, I wouldn't doubt that they threw a real good deal in front of the USGA to land it though.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on July 02, 2023, 10:38:45 AM
Yeah it's weird because when Sentry first opened it was probably the course that people thought would host the next major in Wisconsin. But that was 35 years ago.
Having been exposed to some of the leadership at Sentry Insurance over the years, I wouldn't doubt that they threw a real good deal in front of the USGA to land it though.
They're very involved in golf and will only continue to be more aggressive in trying to land more events at SentryWorld.
Hard to work with the current leadership at the USGA who are anchoring their premium events at designated sites, though.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 02, 2023, 10:16:25 AM
pretty short sighted here reeko. the state of wisconsin has become a golf destination. when sand valley started to take shape, my biggest complaint was infrastructure. now look at it. they are building infrastructure around a complex of world class golf courses. not to mention the other courses they already have in the vicinity-lake arrowhead, northern bay, among others. this is all on the way from blackwolf run and whistling straights. then there are the courses at wisconsin dells-wild rock, trappers turn and cold water canyon.
for golf crazies going to the senior open can very easily be planned around trips to any number of the courses mentioned
having the event during summerfest (yes ,i know that's 2 hours away) is another draw.
sentry world is a great/unique course. i have to agree however, it may not be set up very well for spectator events.
I'm well aware Wisconsin is now a golf destination. That includes SentryWorld, though I'd put it well behind Sand Valley, Destination Kohler, Erin Hills and Lawsonia.
SentryWorld has a very unique setup with regards to pricing and tee times. They're not overbooking the course and really catering to the crowd looking for a full experience. It's just not a course people see as a destination to watch golf or see the course, even for the junkies. The geriatric tour isn't moving the needle with its current lineup.
Taylor Gooch wins 3rd LIV Golf of the year . $12 million for those wins.
Looks LIV going to be around for sometime according to this article
https://golf.com/news/is-liv-golf-surviving-2023-players-answer/?amp=1
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 02, 2023, 11:08:45 AM
I'm well aware Wisconsin is now a golf destination. That includes SentryWorld, though I'd put it well behind Sand Valley, Destination Kohler, Erin Hills and Lawsonia.
SentryWorld has a very unique setup with regards to pricing and tee times. They're not overbooking the course and really catering to the crowd looking for a full experience. It's just not a course people see as a destination to watch golf or see the course, even for the junkies. The geriatric tour isn't moving the needle with its current lineup.
just saying with you p!ssing all over the fact that they are holding the senior us open at sentry world...like it ain't worthy and who's going to go?
golf destination! taking in the seniors, preempted or followed by a few rounds at any of our other esteemed courses making a guys week out of it
oh, and btw, rickie is playing pretty well AGAIN. he's on a mission!
Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 02, 2023, 01:15:15 PM
just saying with you p!ssing all over the fact that they are holding the senior us open at sentry world...like it ain't worthy and who's going to go?
golf destination! taking in the seniors, preempted or followed by a few rounds at any of our other esteemed courses making a guys week out of it
oh, and btw, rickie is playing pretty well AGAIN. he's on a mission!
Great afternoon for Team Europe
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 02, 2023, 01:09:55 PM
Taylor Gooch wins 3rd LIV Golf of the year . $12 million for those wins.
Looks LIV going to be around for sometime according to this article
https://golf.com/news/is-liv-golf-surviving-2023-players-answer/?amp=1
LIV is dead
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 02, 2023, 01:09:55 PM
Taylor Gooch wins 3rd LIV Golf of the year . $12 million for those wins.
Looks LIV going to be around for sometime according to this article
https://golf.com/news/is-liv-golf-surviving-2023-players-answer/?amp=1
I'm not sure a dominant Taylor Gooch is the excitement LIV is going for.
Langer apparently decoded to go medieval against the local Wisco boys.
Ricky Fowler with a much needed win
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 02, 2023, 02:31:03 PM
Langer apparently decoded to go medieval against the local Wisco boys.
Looks like Bernhard is going to break Hale Irwins Champions tour record for most wins
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 02, 2023, 02:35:53 PM
Looks like Bernhard is going to break Hale Irwins Champions tour record for most wins
Any Hauser sightings in the crowd?
Not sure Langer's place in golf history but his achievements after 50 are incredible.
The good news is, Jerry Kelly didn't win.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 02, 2023, 07:37:38 PM
Not sure Langer's place in golf history but his achievements after 50 are incredible.
The good news is, Jerry Kelly didn't win.
Langer is still 2nd all time in wins on the Euro Tour. Only Seve has more. He had a great career even pre-50.
In my mind, he's pro golf's ironman.
Quote from: RJax55 on July 02, 2023, 07:49:16 PM
Langer is still 2nd all time in wins on the Euro Tour. Only Seve has more. He had a great career even pre-50.
In my mind, he's pro golf's ironman.
First pro win was in 1980. Remarkable to win a Senior US Open 43 years later
Women play the US Open at Pebble this week. Ought to be a fascinating and fun watch
Rooting for Amy Olson. If you love great stories..... winning a US Open 7 months pregnant would be just about the best.
That is a great story, tower. I'll also be real interested to see how Rose Zhang does; she'll be playing on a special exemption.
Quote from: tower912 on July 03, 2023, 07:40:18 AM
Rooting for Amy Olson. If you love great stories..... winning a US Open 7 months pregnant would be just about the best.
No man has ever done it - that we know about, anyway.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 03, 2023, 10:16:34 AM
No man has ever done it - that we know about, anyway.
Only because this guy never took up golf.
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Quote from: MU82 on July 03, 2023, 02:24:46 PM
Only because this guy never took up golf.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/511Y8S1HXTL.jpg)
The proper reference was Arnold in Junior.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 03, 2023, 10:16:34 AM
No man has ever done it - that we know about, anyway.
Which makes it a great story.
After bogeying 17 and 18 to end up at even, I am proud that my 16 year old mocked the sh!t out of me for getting grumpy. I raised him right.
So Fahrenheit, 31 putts, hey?
29.
Women's Open at Pebble. In Prime time on the weekend. I hope the weather cooperates.
Quote from: tower912 on July 06, 2023, 07:00:26 AM
29.
Women's Open at Pebble. In Prime time on the weekend. I hope the weather cooperates.
I'm going tomorrow! Very excited!! :)
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 06, 2023, 07:38:56 AM
I'm going tomorrow! Very excited!! :)
Awesome! It's a great venue
Quote from: tower912 on July 06, 2023, 07:00:26 AM
29.
Women's Open at Pebble. In Prime time on the weekend. I hope the weather cooperates.
I played it yesterday with Annika. It's in good shape. Rough is up
Pebble looks fantastic as always. Cool, overcast and great crowds
The tee shot Lydia Ko hit on 5 was one of the worst tee shots in major championship history
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 06, 2023, 07:42:06 AM
I played it yesterday with Annika. It's in good shape. Rough is up
Which simulator did you go to, hey?
Rose needs to close strong 15-18.
Sweet Jesus. Focus!
Zhang channeling Gary Woodland.
Quote from: tower912 on July 06, 2023, 09:35:47 PM
Zhang channeling Gary Woodland.
She should at minimum birdie 18 with that aggressive drive.
Muggsy, watch course management, tempo, and how they almost always hit the ball in the center of the club face.
Enjoy your trip to Pebble.
Quote from: tower912 on July 06, 2023, 09:46:58 PM
Muggsy, watch course management, tempo, and how they almost always hit the ball in the center of the club face.
Enjoy your trip to Pebble.
Ty. There's barely any wind in tbe forecast. Surprised Zhang and Ko were both way off on their approach there.
Both have been a little off today. Ko has been off for months.
Quote from: tower912 on July 06, 2023, 09:58:26 PM
Both have been a little off today. Ko has been off for months.
How have the greens been speed wise?
Lexi and Danielle Kang no-show Pebble. Nelly not in contention. Big guns for Team USA disappoint.
Rose Zhang hanging in there at +1. Two Americans on top. Not sure Bailey Tardy holds up over the weekend but she can wallop the golf ball and has eagled 6 the first two rounds.
Kind of like Leona Maguire or Nasa Hataoka
Michelle Wie West ends her career at Pebble on Friday
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/uswomensopen2023-michelle-wie-west-last-tournament-retirement-annika-sorenstam-pebble-beach
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 08, 2023, 07:29:28 AM
Michelle Wie West ends her career at Pebble on Friday
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/uswomensopen2023-michelle-wie-west-last-tournament-retirement-annika-sorenstam-pebble-beach
she is definitely going to be missed in more ways than one, eyn'a eyn'a?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 08, 2023, 07:30:48 AM
she is definitely going to be missed in more ways than one, eyn'a eyn'a?
Why? Do you masterbate when thinking about her? That's a sin. Lusting after your neighbors wife is a big no-no.
Leona Maguire is always a solid bet. If the wind really is howling this evening, her experience playing Irish links land courses will be helpful.
Corpuz was in the Friday group with Maguire that I followed three weeks ago. That day she was super solid but did not have the closing run that Maguire had. Shot 67ish, but nobody noticed.
Quote from: tower912 on July 08, 2023, 07:32:26 AM
Leona Maguire is always a solid bet. If the wind really is howling this evening, her experience playing Irish links land courses will be helpful.
Corpuz was in the Friday group with Maguire that I followed three weeks ago. That day she was super solid but did not have the closing run that Maguire had. Shot 67ish, but nobody noticed.
Furue has been playing well this year, too. Wonder what the leader is at after today?
Having fun in LIV London
https://twitter.com/thegolfeditor/status/1677307925025501184/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1677307925025501184¤tTweetUser=thegolfeditor
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 08, 2023, 07:47:43 AM
Having fun in LIV London
https://twitter.com/thegolfeditor/status/1677307925025501184/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1677307925025501184¤tTweetUser=thegolfeditor
This got absolutely roasted across social media showing how out of touch they are with the general public. Flash mobs? What is this? 2013?
What a fun day watching these women at Pebble! Zhang is absolutely amazing but I must say Farue was my favorite player to watch. She's really little but pops the ball with tremendous consistency! The way she shallows the club is phenomenal and her balance is perfect.
This is the first time I've watched the LPGA in person, they're incredibly impressive .Min-Jee-Lee's swing is an absolute thing of beauty. Technically I think they're better than the men from an overall standpoint. I'll be rooting for Ayaka....I think she like 4'11. :)
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 08, 2023, 09:16:03 AM
What a fun day watching these women at Pebble! Zhang is absolutely amazing but I must say Farue was my favorite player to watch. She's really little but pops the ball with tremendous consistency! The way she shallows the club is phenomenal and her balance is perfect.
This is the first time I've watched the LPGA in person, they're incredibly impressive .Min-Jee-Lee's swing is an absolute thing of beauty. Technically I think they're better than the men from an overall standpoint. I'll be rooting for Ayaka....I think she like 4'11. :)
Glad you enjoyed it! The ladies are fun to watch.
Nasa Hataoka is 5'2. She really gets the most out of her lack of leverage, too.
Glad you had fun, Muggsy.
Quote from: tower912 on July 08, 2023, 09:27:09 AM
Nasa Hataoka is 5'2. She really gets the most out of her lack of leverage, too.
Glad you had fun, Muggsy.
Yes!! Nasa was awesome as well. These women have beautiful tempo and transition. I also really enjoyed watching Brooke Henderson. She holds the club so loose and has that wicked hinge. Zhang is going to be a huge, huge, star imo. The total package.
Because you and I cannot hit it 350 yards, in many ways we can learn more about the golf swing watching the women professionals.
They are almost never out of balance. They can't just fire at pins and put tour juice on it, so they play for the bounce and roll out. More realistic short games.
Don't get me wrong. I admire Rory and Rahm and Finau and Sceffler. But I cannot generate that much club speed. So I learn more watching the ladies or Langer.
Quote from: tower912 on July 08, 2023, 09:54:27 AM
Because you and I cannot hit it 350 yards, in many ways we can learn more about the golf swing watching the women professionals.
They are almost never out of balance. They can't just fire at pins and put tour juice on it, so they play for the bounce and roll out. More realistic short games.
Don't get me wrong. I admire Rory and Rahm and Finau and Sceffler. But I cannot generate that much club speed. So I learn more watching the ladies or Langer.
I completely agree Tower. Farue doesn't look she's going full throttle at all and was still popping drives and long irons. I was most impressed with their balance . They rarely try to muscle the ball. And let's be real, they can still hit it pretty damn far and would wipe the floor vs very good male golfers.
Playing the Lido on Thursday
Enjoy setting the course record.
Tardy would be a pretty cool story. I literally never heard of her until yesterday.
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 08, 2023, 11:16:49 AM
Tardy would be a pretty cool story. I literally never heard of her until yesterday.
What you're saying is that you're late hearing about Tardy?
Quote from: MU82 on July 08, 2023, 01:27:20 PM
What you're saying is that you're late hearing about Tardy?
Touche.
Nasa!! Let's go now!!
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 08, 2023, 08:08:24 PM
Superb round of golf.
She was 8.7 strokes better than the field. Shooting a 66 today is incredible golf and one of the best rounds of golf you'll ever see. She has to finish for it to matter
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 08, 2023, 08:14:29 PM
She was 8.7 strokes better than the field. Shooting a 66 today is incredible golf and one of the best rounds of golf you'll ever see. She has to finish for it to matter
Absolutely. She must slam the door tomorrow.
Hull with a 32 on the Front 9. It's time for Nasa to focus and play with pinpoint precision. :)
Hull is officially on 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥!!!!!
Cam Smith wins LIV London , has a couple weeks to prep for his Open defense. Says his game is peaking
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/cam-smith-wins-liv-golf-london-2023-sets-sights-open-championship-title-defense/amp
Yikes! Nasa is a bit too amped. :(
Corpuz earned it.
It turns out she was warned about slow play. Was one more warning away from a penalty. She is very deliberate. I would hate to play with or behind her.
Quote from: tower912 on July 10, 2023, 07:41:34 AM
It turns out she was warned about slow play. Was one more warning away from a penalty. She is very deliberate. I would hate to play with or behind her.
It's something that plagues the woman's game
And the men's game. She is noticeably deliberate.
Quote from: tower912 on July 10, 2023, 07:52:40 AM
And the men's game. She is noticeably deliberate.
It's bad in general with the younger generations getting worse and worse
Poor parenting and mentoring.
Quote from: tower912 on July 10, 2023, 08:22:56 AM
Poor parenting and mentoring.
I blame the teachers union
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 10, 2023, 08:10:07 AM
It's bad in general with the younger generations getting worse and worse
Slow play is an abomination in the college game. It really starts there and carries on.
Golf teachers. Though, to be fair, she Claud her way to the top so what is the Harmon slow play?
Not quitting the dad jokes.
Men's professional golf is a colossal embarrassment
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/takeaways-congressional-hearing-pga-tour-saudi-liv-2023?utm_medium=email&utm_source=071123&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM41939&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 11, 2023, 04:37:06 PM
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/takeaways-congressional-hearing-pga-tour-saudi-liv-2023?utm_medium=email&utm_source=071123&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM41939&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Congrats to the LIV Golfers who sold the game to the devil
the AJGA is currently holding big event at merrill hills, waukesha all week. great to see kids from all over the world coming here to learn and to compete on a challenging course.
https://www.ajga.org/tournaments/2022/future-legends-junior-championship/schedule-of-events
Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 12, 2023, 06:21:30 AM
the AJGA is currently holding big event at merrill hills, waukesha all week. great to see kids from all over the world coming here to learn and to compete on a challenging course.
https://www.ajga.org/tournaments/2022/future-legends-junior-championship/schedule-of-events
Too bad they're playing a dump
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 12, 2023, 06:33:02 AM
Too bad they're playing a dump
you a stalker??
btw, i'm sure you're probably trying to be funny as usual ::) but are you familiar with the course?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 12, 2023, 07:36:45 AM
you a stalker??
btw, i'm sure you're probably trying to be funny as usual ::) but are you familiar with the course?
Yeah, it's a dump. I can't imagine paying membership fees to those places. But when you can't afford the good places, that's where you dumpster dive
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-tour-liv-golf-pif-abandoning-provision-prohibiting-recruiting-players-new-york-times-report?utm_medium=email&utm_source=071323&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM42028&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
From The Athletic:
There was a tantalizing proposition hidden inside the PGA Tour's 276-page dossier submitted to the Senate: As part of golf's mega-merger, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods would own LIV teams and play in a number of LIV events each year. It honestly sounded amazing, right? Asked about the idea yesterday, McIlroy said plainly: "If LIV Golf was the last place on Earth to play golf, I would retire."
Quote from: MU82 on July 14, 2023, 08:05:17 AM
From The Athletic:
There was a tantalizing proposition hidden inside the PGA Tour's 276-page dossier submitted to the Senate: As part of golf's mega-merger, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods would own LIV teams and play in a number of LIV events each year. It honestly sounded amazing, right? Asked about the idea yesterday, McIlroy said plainly: "If LIV Golf was the last place on Earth to play golf, I would retire."
The whole thing is a colossal mess.
The Lido.
Incredible.
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 15, 2023, 06:28:43 PM
Is that Sand Valley?
Yes. Needs some time to grow in. Caddies still learning the place. Look forward to playing it in a year or two again after the caddies have some experience and it's grown in. Still, the layout and play is incredible.
They can't recreate the ocean presence but the holes themselves are still amazing
Get up early tomorrow. Gusts to 50 forecast for the final round of the Scottish Open.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 12, 2023, 07:36:45 AM
you a stalker??
btw, i'm sure you're probably trying to be funny as usual ::) but are you familiar with the course?
Rico is a member at Augusta.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on July 15, 2023, 07:37:21 PM
Rico is a member at Augusta.
He was invited but turned it down. Dump, a'ina?
Hellofva golf course, hey?
He had his pick between Augusta and Pine Valley. He chose Pine Valley because too many people played Augusta.
Clutch putt for the win by Rory. Great to see.
I was worried that Tom Kim playing #18 like a 15 capper was going to ice him.
Quote from: tower912 on July 16, 2023, 06:59:29 AM
He had his pick between Augusta and Pine Valley. He chose Pine Valley because too many people played Augusta.
I rescinded my Augusta membership after they went woke
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-owgr-delay/amp
LIV is doomed.
PGA Tour does not want to roll back ball distance
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-tour-jay-monahan-memo-july-2023
https://www.wisconsin.golf/19th_hole/gary_d_amato/holy-you-know-what-purdue-golfer-plays-final-15-holes-in-14-under-to-shoot/article_941c7464-2caf-11ee-96cd-b35ba669b0ae.html
Please put JT on the Ryder Cup team, Zach
🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 26, 2023, 09:11:45 PM
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-owgr-delay/amp
cue in steve miller...go on, take the money and run
Anybody playing any golf this year? Besides Rico at Augusta, Pine Valley, the Lido, Crystal Downs, etc. How are the games coming along? Any tips working for you? Any new sticks paying off?
got a new titleist tsr-2 and i'm hitting some of the longest drives of my life-seriously! most in the 240-260 range, a few 270-280 but unleashed a 319 bomb in a match play 2 weeks ago- took a pic of the gps to prove to my son the old man still has it...goodbye king cobra. tried the paradym, but it just didn't feel right and i love callaway. fav club in the bag is a rogue 3 hybrid with a pured shaft
remember the equipment we grew up with-woods were real woods.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 28, 2023, 08:13:48 PM
got a new titleist tsr-2 and i'm hitting some of the longest drives of my life-seriously! most in the 240-260 range, a few 270-280 but unleashed a 319 bomb in a match play 2 weeks ago- took a pic of the gps to prove to my son the old man still has it...goodbye king cobra. tried the paradym, but it just didn't feel right and i love callaway. fav club in the bag is a rogue 3 hybrid with a pured shaft
remember the equipment we grew up with-woods were real woods.
I only play with hickory shafts and persimmon woods. Still dominate the competition. Pity the men that need to use frying pan drivers and hybrids. Some are men, some are boys, I guess but that's America going soft
Quote from: tower912 on July 28, 2023, 07:44:26 PM
Anybody playing any golf this year? Besides Rico at Augusta, Pine Valley, the Lido, Crystal Downs, etc. How are the games coming along? Any tips working for you? Any new sticks paying off?
I play 2/3 times a week and practice my short game about 40 mins 2/3 times a week. Usually I alternate between Stanford, Baylands, Shotlreline, and Sharon Heights but recently I've hit Cinnabar which is a fantastic course closer to San Jose. I also try to go to Half Moon Bay about once a month.
The one club I have picked up recently ithat has completely replaced my 3-Wood is an old 2-Hybrid Taylor Made (18 d). I cannot consistently hit the 3 Wood from the deck. It frustrated me on end. I can hammer my 4 hy but thought I'd give the 2 hy a whirl. The results have really helped me on long par 4's and par 5's. I'm hitting a nice little stinging low draw with it and it's giving me some extra umph. I've still kinda plateaued and am about a +7 but I do think I can shed a stroke in due time. I'm extremely confident and consistent around the greens. If I could just find a little more pop and carry with my long i's look the f out. :)
I am enjoying the carnage at the Senior Open in Wales.
Considering there were 88's and 89's out there, I doubt any scoopers (other than Rico) break 110.
Quote from: tower912 on July 30, 2023, 04:21:57 PM
Considering there were 88's and 89's out there, I doubt any scoopers (other than Rico) break 110.
Love real links golf. Best part of the year on the golf calendar. Purist form of golf where players have to be creative and disciplined when the weather bucks unlike most of the cookie cutter trash we get on tour like TPC Sod Farm this week. Women are at Walton Heath in two weeks ought to be lots of fun.
It's too bad they won't host Ryder Cups because of the lack of infrastructure. Would be awesome
One of the best times I ever had on a golf course was at the Gailes Course at Lakewood Shores in Oscoda, Michigan. A links style course about a mile inland from Lake Huron. 2006.
On the morning of the last day of the golf trip, we woke up to 30 mph winds and rain. Everybody else left and went home. I asked the pro shop if I was dumb enough to play, were they dumb enough to let me? They said the course drained really well, have at it. I put on all my rain gear, went out and had a blast. 4-5 club winds. Inventing shots I had never tried. 100 yard 8 irons. Punch 3 woods. I had the course to myself. The rain let up after 16 holes and I saw the next group coming out #1 as I was going in #18. 17 years later and I can still picture a few of the most fun shots I have ever hit in my life from that day.
tower
I have played halfway decent this year. Scoring a bit lower than last year and have enjoyed some fun days. Had a very nice time playing with a couple of scoopers and almost every family member over the past month. I have Erin Hills coming up in a few weeks and looking forward to it.
I have been streaky. Instead of shooting a 77 with 1 birdie, 6 bogies, and 11 pars, I am shooting it with 3 birdies, 13 pars, and two 8's. 73,75, 77, 79, 88, 78. Normal short game for me for 3-4 rounds, then inexplicably getting the chipping shanks for 3 holes before going back to normal. No one thing, just streaks where my game completely leaves me.
I am the proverbial little girl with the little curl right in the middle of my forehead. My good is as good as it ever been. My bad is random and pathetic. And those weird things that gut a round. Reaching a pond off of a tee that I haven't reached in 20 years. Yay, I'm bombing it. Boo, it is a double bogey. That kind of stuff.
Ah, well. The adventure is the journey.
Quote from: tower912 on July 31, 2023, 09:29:01 AM
I have been streaky. Instead of shooting a 77 with 1 birdie, 6 bogies, and 11 pars, I am shooting it with 3 birdies, 13 pars, and two 8's. 73,75, 77, 79, 88, 78. Normal short game for me for 3-4 rounds, then inexplicably getting the chipping shanks for 3 holes before going back to normal. No one thing, just streaks where my game completely leaves me.
I am the proverbial little girl with the little curl right in the middle of my forehead. My good is as good as it ever been. My bad is random and pathetic. And those weird things that gut a round. Reaching a pond off of a tee that I haven't reached in 20 years. Yay, I'm bombing it. Boo, it is a double bogey. That kind of stuff.
Ah, well. The adventure is the journey.
Tower, you must eliminate the abominable snowman. That simply cannot happen for a player at your level. It's analogous to Rowsey missing 4 consecutive free throws.
That is the goal. Right now, it is the goal for JT, too. In my case, sometimes a hack hacks.
Quote from: tower912 on July 31, 2023, 09:29:01 AM
I have been streaky. Instead of shooting a 77 with 1 birdie, 6 bogies, and 11 pars, I am shooting it with 3 birdies, 13 pars, and two 8's. 73,75, 77, 79, 88, 78. Normal short game for me for 3-4 rounds, then inexplicably getting the chipping shanks for 3 holes before going back to normal. No one thing, just streaks where my game completely leaves me.
Been dealing with this same thing all summer, though at 8-10 strokes/round more than you.
Need to decide if I really wanna get good at this or not. With all the family activities it's hard to carve out the time to practice enough to make regular lessons worth the investment.
Quote from: tower912 on July 31, 2023, 09:29:01 AM
I have been streaky. Instead of shooting a 77 with 1 birdie, 6 bogies, and 11 pars, I am shooting it with 3 birdies, 13 pars, and two 8's. 73,75, 77, 79, 88, 78. Normal short game for me for 3-4 rounds, then inexplicably getting the chipping shanks for 3 holes before going back to normal. No one thing, just streaks where my game completely leaves me.
I am the proverbial little girl with the little curl right in the middle of my forehead. My good is as good as it ever been. My bad is random and pathetic. And those weird things that gut a round. Reaching a pond off of a tee that I haven't reached in 20 years. Yay, I'm bombing it. Boo, it is a double bogey. That kind of stuff.
Ah, well. The adventure is the journey.
Dude, ya know why they call it golf?
All the other 4 letter words are taken, hey?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 29, 2023, 05:53:17 AM
I only play with hickory shafts and persimmon woods. Still dominate the competition. Pity the men that need to use frying pan drivers and hybrids. Some are men, some are boys, I guess but that's America going soft
that's because you are just such an amazing guy making the most interesting man in the world wear shirts with your picture on them
America's best golf property is getting better in 2024. This beaut is expected to be the toughest 18 on the property
https://twitter.com/the_fried_egg/status/1686475890715394049?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Sorry, no waterfalls or water fountains to be found
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 01, 2023, 04:13:50 PM
America's best golf property is getting better in 2024. This beaut is expected to be the toughest 18 on the property
https://twitter.com/the_fried_egg/status/1686475890715394049?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Sorry, no waterfalls or water fountains to be found
Do you know if Sand Valley and Cabot are the same people? If you haven't been to Cabot Cliffs and NS I'd highly recommend it. I thought there was some connection.
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 01, 2023, 07:04:17 PM
They are owned by the same group. They also own Bandon Dunes are opening a property in Colorado in the next year or two
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 01, 2023, 07:06:27 PM
They are owned by the same group. They also own Bandon Dunes are opening a property in Colorado in the next year or two
And they own something in Oregon I think.
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 01, 2023, 07:07:37 PM
And they own something in Oregon I think.
That's Bandon Dunes. That's on the 2024 agenda
I did Bandon this year. It was awesome. I went final four weekend (last weekend of March/first weekend of April) to save some money and so the weather was, I'll say decent. It was high 40s/low 50s the whole time and really the only time it was raining sideways and howling wind was when we played sheep ranch. I still played well enough to have my opponents quit after 12 holes but I finished with the group behind us. One of the caddies said top 5 worst conditions he's been in.
Other than that round we lucked out big time. The courses were beautiful, lodging worked out perfectly, and everyone had a blast. There were 16 of us. This is how I ranked the courses. Also, I'm currently a 10.5 handicap and these were my scores.
Bandon dunes- 82
Bandon trails- 84
Pacific dunes- 90
Old McDonald- 86
Sheep ranch- probably low 90s. Weather was brutal and I didn't add them up
Also, flew into Eugene, spent then night there, and took Byron's old caddies bus company there and back. Highly recommend. It was very smooth
Great trip. Hope you guys enjoy it also
Quote from: swoopem on August 02, 2023, 07:47:32 AM
I did Bandon this year. It was awesome. I went final four weekend (last weekend of March/first weekend of April) to save some money and so the weather was, I'll say decent. It was high 40s/low 50s the whole time and really the only time it was raining sideways and howling wind was when we played sheep ranch. I still played well enough to have my opponents quit after 12 holes but I finished with the group behind us. One of the caddies said top 5 worst conditions he's been in.
Other than that round we lucked out big time. The courses were beautiful, lodging worked out perfectly, and everyone had a blast. There were 16 of us. This is how I ranked the courses. Also, I'm currently a 10.5 handicap and these were my scores.
Bandon dunes- 82
Bandon trails- 84
Pacific dunes- 90
Old McDonald- 86
Sheep ranch- probably low 90s. Weather was brutal and I didn't add them up
Also, flew into Eugene, spent then night there, and took Byron's old caddies bus company there and back. Highly recommend. It was very smooth
Great trip. Hope you guys enjoy it also
How far in advance did you book?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 02, 2023, 07:50:35 AM
How far in advance did you book?
We put our deposits down in October 2021 so roughly 18 months
Played Harbortown last week. Beautiful course, but wouldn't put it as worth the price of admission. I'd rather jump on Heron Point if I really wanted to play a Pete Dye while on Hilton Head Island.
Quote from: swoopem on August 02, 2023, 07:47:32 AM
I did Bandon this year. It was awesome. I went final four weekend (last weekend of March/first weekend of April) to save some money and so the weather was, I'll say decent. It was high 40s/low 50s the whole time and really the only time it was raining sideways and howling wind was when we played sheep ranch. I still played well enough to have my opponents quit after 12 holes but I finished with the group behind us. One of the caddies said top 5 worst conditions he's been in.
Other than that round we lucked out big time. The courses were beautiful, lodging worked out perfectly, and everyone had a blast. There were 16 of us. This is how I ranked the courses. Also, I'm currently a 10.5 handicap and these were my scores.
Bandon dunes- 82
Bandon trails- 84
Pacific dunes- 90
Old McDonald- 86
Sheep ranch- probably low 90s. Weather was brutal and I didn't add them up
Also, flew into Eugene, spent then night there, and took Byron's old caddies bus company there and back. Highly recommend. It was very smooth
Great trip. Hope you guys enjoy it also
Swoop
I just signed up for the same "event" at Bandon in '24. Trying to decide whether to fly into Eugene or get to San Francisco and take the flight (I think there one a day) that gets you to the small airport near Bandon. Was leaning to the latter but you make it sound pretty easy going through Eugene - thanks for the tip.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 02, 2023, 03:48:44 PM
Swoop
I just signed up for the same "event" at Bandon in '24. Trying to decide whether to fly into Eugene or get to San Francisco and take the flight (I think there one a day) that gets you to the small airport near Bandon. Was leaning to the latter but you make it sound pretty easy going through Eugene - thanks for the tip.
The shuttle services are supposed to be top notch for Bandon. I thought of going to the US AM in '20 and read a lot of positive things about the services
Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 02, 2023, 03:48:44 PM
Swoop
I just signed up for the same "event" at Bandon in '24. Trying to decide whether to fly into Eugene or get to San Francisco and take the flight (I think there one a day) that gets you to the small airport near Bandon. Was leaning to the latter but you make it sound pretty easy going through Eugene - thanks for the tip.
Flying into Eugene and taking the shuttle was super easy. We stayed at this really cool hotel called the graduate- pretty much all Nike and Oregon themed. We arrived early evening 4-5pm so got to check out the town, hit the pot shop, have dinner, then go to a couple a bars which was fun. Oregon was on spring break which was fine, kinda would've liked more action though.
The shuttle was sweet. They had it fully stocked with booze so we got a nice buzz and they stopped at a store for us to load up on the way. Once we got there we played the par 3 and then Old Mac and then the next two days were 36 each.
I would absolutely do the Eugene/shuttle route if I went again
Any course recommendations in the la Quinta, CA area?
Golf is getting too dangerous.
https://globalnews.ca/news/9871471/bear-video-golf-bag-course/
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/bear-ripping-golf-bag-off-cart-and-taking-it-into-the-woods-wildest-horror-movie-of-summer-video
Quote from: JakeBarnes on August 02, 2023, 11:42:56 AM
Played Harbortown last week. Beautiful course, but wouldn't put it as worth the price of admission. I'd rather jump on Heron Point if I really wanted to play a Pete Dye while on Hilton Head Island.
The Trent Jones Ocean Course at Palmetto Dunes is a great track as well.
Quote from: swoopem on August 02, 2023, 06:44:09 PM
Flying into Eugene and taking the shuttle was super easy. We stayed at this really cool hotel called the graduate- pretty much all Nike and Oregon themed. We arrived early evening 4-5pm so got to check out the town, hit the pot shop, have dinner, then go to a couple a bars which was fun. Oregon was on spring break which was fine, kinda would've liked more action though.
The shuttle was sweet. They had it fully stocked with booze so we got a nice buzz and they stopped at a store for us to load up on the way. Once we got there we played the par 3 and then Old Mac and then the next two days were 36 each.
I would absolutely do the Eugene/shuttle route if I went again
Thanks, Swoop - very helpful.
Thanks to Rico also.
Quote from: swoopem on August 02, 2023, 06:44:09 PM
Flying into Eugene and taking the shuttle was super easy. We stayed at this really cool hotel called the graduate- pretty much all Nike and Oregon themed. We arrived early evening 4-5pm so got to check out the town, hit the pot shop, have dinner, then go to a couple a bars which was fun. Oregon was on spring break which was fine, kinda would've liked more action though.
The shuttle was sweet. They had it fully stocked with booze so we got a nice buzz and they stopped at a store for us to load up on the way. Once we got there we played the par 3 and then Old Mac and then the next two days were 36 each.
I would absolutely do the Eugene/shuttle route if I went again
One more question - did you use a caddy on all of the courses? How helpful/necessary was it?
Thanks in advance.
Muggys favorite golfer, DeCharcuterie, shoots a 58 to win LIV
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/38145490/bryson-dechambeau-shoots-liv-golf-first-58-take-victory
Quote from: Herman Cain on August 06, 2023, 01:49:43 PM
Muggys favorite golfer, DeCharcuterie, shoots a 58 to win LIV
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/38145490/bryson-dechambeau-shoots-liv-golf-first-58-take-victory
Do we count this Herman? I'm not sure we can.
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 06, 2023, 03:51:59 PM
Do we count this Herman? I'm not sure we can.
How does it not count? He shot a 58 in a professional tournament at a course that used to host PGA events and at a club that hosted a Ryder Cup. Not like he played some joke course with special rules. A 58 in a tournament is insane and taking anything away from it cause you don't like the guy and its on the LIV tour is silly.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 06, 2023, 04:48:49 PM
How does it not count? He shot a 58 in a professional tournament at a course that used to host PGA events and at a club that hosted a Ryder Cup. Not like he played some joke course with special rules. A 58 in a tournament is insane and taking anything away from it cause you don't like the guy and its on the LIV tour is silly.
Does this mean he's on the Ryder Cup team?
No.
Quote from: tower912 on August 06, 2023, 05:40:07 PM
No.
I noticed the scores were on the low, low, low side for the LIV people.
Tower,
Who would you choose for the RC if you were the Cpt?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 03, 2023, 05:49:02 PM
One more question - did you use a caddy on all of the courses? How helpful/necessary was it?
Thanks in advance.
I took a caddy 2 out of the 5 rounds but there was always a caddy in the group because some of the guys took one every round. They were helpful, especially with the wind and them knowing the yardage to play with the wind. They also have free push carts which I used the other 3 rounds so I wasn't carrying my bag.
Overall I'd recommend taking one or at least making sure there's one in the group
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 28, 2023, 04:30:29 PM
Please put JT on the Ryder Cup team, Zach
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Did you see your boy's final attempt to qualify for the playoffs yesterday? Wow.
Quote from: swoopem on August 06, 2023, 05:51:17 PM
I took a caddy 2 out of the 5 rounds but there was always a caddy in the group because some of the guys took one every round. They were helpful, especially with the wind and them knowing the yardage to play with the wind. They also have free push carts which I used the other 3 rounds so I wasn't carrying my bag.
Overall I'd recommend taking one or at least making sure there's one in the group
Much obliged
Wow. Ally Ewing is obliterating this course. Up 7 at the Women's Open.
Bogied the last. She's doomed.
Quote from: tower912 on August 11, 2023, 07:47:29 AM
Bogied the last. She's doomed.
I apparently jinxed her!
LIV teams gaining sponsors
https://www.livgolf.com/news/fireballs-gc-and-mexico-infrastructure-partners-announce-multi-year
Phil's team picking up all the betting sites?
Tiger seen without walking boot.....
https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2023/8/12/23829670/tiger-woods-without-walking-boot-fans-excited
This should be a fun round at the Women's Open. Great looking course.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/deadly-lahaina-wildfires-hit-close-home-for-collin-morikawa-hes-donating-money-to-help/amp
Vu with a dominant win. She's the 1st American to win two majors in the same year since 2000. She seriously dropped the hammer with a 67 and a 6 shot win.
Quite the mercurial year for her.
Quote from: tower912 on August 13, 2023, 02:51:33 PM
Quite the mercurial year for her.
True. She's #1 in the world right now.
Looks like Nick Hardy will just miss making the top 50 - so no coming home to play in Chicago. On Thursday he hit a 360 yard drive through the fairway on 18. It hit the cart path just past it and bounced out of bounds. The 2 stroke penalty that ensued will likely cost him. Bummer.
Just saw Glover mark an 8" putt and clean the ball before tapping in.
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Yelling at a pro to 'pull it' in the middle of their putting stroke over a $3 bet. Pathetic. Homa and his caddie were right to yell at the guy that he was a ( ) clown.
Quote from: tower912 on August 20, 2023, 06:55:07 AM
Yelling at a pro to 'pull it' in the middle of their putting stroke over a $3 bet. Pathetic. Homa and his caddie were right to yell at the guy that he was a ( ) clown.
Huh?? How stupid. I assume he was dismissed from the course?
Hovland the victor.
Quote from: tower912 on August 20, 2023, 04:49:07 PM
Hovland the victor.
A Sunday back 9 that is one for the history books. Hovland has looked like that "next great player" for awhile. Today he took a giant step in that direction.
28 on the back nine is crazy good. 7 birdies. I've played that course a bunch. It is very difficult.
they had that course set up like the us open. the rough was enough to make you write bad checks
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/erik-compton-arrested-pga-tour-2023
He must have had an unfortunate change of heart.
Rory, describing Scheffler's game, how he has all the shots...."he hits those little bunt cuts with his driver".....
That is a phrase I would be terrified to say in public, let alone multiple times in a live interview. Hell, I double checked after typing it.
Quote from: tower912 on August 24, 2023, 07:35:14 AM
Rory, describing Scheffler's game, how he has all the shots...."he hits those little bunt cuts with his driver".....
That is a phrase I would be terrified to say in public, let alone multiple times in a live interview. Hell, I double checked after typing it.
To be fair, C U Next Tuesday has a much different tenor in the UK/Ireland. Toss it around like "idiot". Rory is far more polished and isn't daft enough to say it in an interview, even accidentally, but point being he likely doesn't have the fear of it hardwired like Americans might.
americandunesgolfclub.com
Played it today. Much of the time, it feels like there is more sand than turf. Optical illusion. Very firm greens. Fascinating backstory. The sand in the bunkers is thick and heavy, unlike anything I have played before. I should have spent a moment in a greenside bunker in the practice area. Or more time hitting irons so I missed the bunkers.
Highly recommend it.
When did people start playing golf regularly? I took lessons as a young child and I think I was just interested in more active sports, so I wasn't super interested and my parents weren't pushing me. Now as an adult it'd be a good excuse to be outside when it's nice out, but I'm so bad and so self conscious about slowing people down that actually play, plus it's an expensive hobby to suck at.
13.
Quote from: tower912 on August 24, 2023, 04:16:01 PM
americandunesgolfclub.com
Played it today. Much of the time, it feels like there is more sand than turf. Optical illusion. Very firm greens. Fascinating backstory. The sand in the bunkers is thick and heavy, unlike anything I have played before. I should have spent a moment in a greenside bunker in the practice area. Or more time hitting irons so I missed the bunkers.
Highly recommend it.
I was supposed to play Kent CC, American Dunes, and Pilgrims Run 2 weeks ago. Had it planned for a couple months and at the last minute my buddy's wife made us cancel. They live in GR so we were gonna stay with them. I guess she didn't want us to have fun that weekend
Looking forward to playing it eventually
I am so sick of seeing the Points Bet Paige Spiranac commercial. I'm embarrassed for all involved.
Quote from: swoopem on August 24, 2023, 07:15:31 PM
I was supposed to play Kent CC, American Dunes, and Pilgrims Run 2 weeks ago. Had it planned for a couple months and at the last minute my buddy's wife made us cancel. They live in GR so we were gonna stay with them. I guess she didn't want us to have fun that weekend
Looking forward to playing it eventually
Kent CC is very old school. Beautifully maintained. Landlocked, so not as long as some others. I haven't played it in a few years, but when I did it had the fastest greens I have ever played.
American Dunes, hit it straight. Don't be afraid to judicially lay up off the tee. The ball does not check. Like 20-30 feet of runout from a well struck wedge. Green speeds posted, 10.6 today.
And if you get to GR (or what is left of it after tonight), message me. I love meeting scoopers.
Hail to the Victor.
Quote from: tower912 on August 27, 2023, 05:56:37 PM
Hail to the Victor.
Hovland has played consistently solid golf for quite a while. Nice to see him get the big payday for it.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 20, 2023, 05:00:06 PM
A Sunday back 9 that is one for the history books. Hovland has looked like that "next great player" for awhile. Today he took a giant step in that direction.
And today he made it official.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 27, 2023, 08:26:59 PM
And today he made it official.
The cash is nice, but it's no major.
He'll get one. He learned at the PGA.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtNVtaEtTj3/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Praying for Gary and His Family
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/gary-woodland-undergoing-brain-surgery/amp
Quote from: Herman Cain on August 30, 2023, 10:41:36 AM
Praying for Gary and His Family
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/gary-woodland-undergoing-brain-surgery/amp
DITTOS!! one of the best human beings on tour
Very enjoyable time watching MU golf team at Erin Hills. The level of talent is very impressive. Great field and the good guys still have a chance heading into the back side. Highly recommend any golf fans to attend next year.
I will say it is beyond hot out here. Played here a couple of weeks ago on a 90+ day and even hotter today.
Folds of Honor Collegiate on the Golf Channel right now. Showcasing American Dunes and the namesake cause.
tower
That is great tournament. A golfing friend of mine played in pro am yesterday and his son is coach Army, I believe. I need to check that out.
Goose, you would really enjoy the stories told. The course is really good, too.
Quote from: tower912 on September 05, 2023, 04:32:04 PM
Folds of Honor Collegiate on the Golf Channel right now. Showcasing American Dunes and the namesake cause.
Are there waterfalls on the course?
No.
Quote from: tower912 on September 05, 2023, 05:08:53 PM
No.
That's a good thing. Courses with waterfalls or water fountains are 💯 trash
Quote from: tower912 on September 05, 2023, 04:32:04 PM
Folds of Honor Collegiate on the Golf Channel right now. Showcasing American Dunes and the namesake cause.
Folds of Honor is a fantastic golf course concept. Honoring our fallen and disabled service men and women.
An excellent collegiate event as well.
Trump sells leasehold interest in Bronx Golf Course to Ballys. Ballys want to develop Casino in the city.
https://nypost.com/2023/09/08/donald-trump-unloads-bronx-golf-course-to-ballys-casino-chain-sources/
Quote from: Herman Cain on September 08, 2023, 07:05:56 PM
Trump sells leasehold interest in Vronx Golf Course to Ballys. Ballys want to develop Casino in the city.
https://nypost.com/2023/09/08/donald-trump-unloads-bronx-golf-course-to-ballys-casino-chain-sources/
Course will thrive now it's not associated with a felon
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 08, 2023, 07:13:09 PM
Course will thrive now it's not associated with a felon
Convicted? Never convicted.
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Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on September 09, 2023, 11:19:08 AM
Convicted? Never convicted.
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Fine, getting a rapists name off the course will help
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 08, 2023, 07:13:09 PM
Course will thrive now it's not associated with a felon
Da Buffoon is associated wit da course, hey?
He was. He sold it.
Bryson DeCharcuterie wins LIV Golf Chicago event
https://www.livgolf.com/news/liv-golf-chicago-dechambeau-crushers-sweep-both-titles
I would rather hear about Lenny's round with Rico.
https://x.com/mmccarthyrev/status/1707115738882863488?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Stunning
Karmic
Competition for PGA Tour /LIV merger
https://nypost.com/2023/09/28/pga-investors-emerge-to-rival-liv/amp/
At approximately the same time we were all being zombified, one of my playing companions made a hole-in-one at American Dunes. Always fun.
Quote from: tower912 on October 04, 2023, 03:39:49 PM
At approximately the same time we were all being zombified, one of my playing companions made a hole-in-one at American Dunes. Always fun.
My phone didnt give me an "alert". It's a new phone, too. Guess I'll be the only human left, like I am Legend.
Quote from: tower912 on October 04, 2023, 03:39:49 PM
At approximately the same time we were all being zombified, one of my playing companions made a hole-in-one at American Dunes. Always fun.
I get a few of them a week
Rickie and Lexi pairing up as a team in the Grant Thornton mixed-pairs event in December. Couldn't imagine a better team.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2023, 12:07:12 PM
Rickie and Lexi pairing up as a team in the Grant Thornton mixed-pairs event in December. Couldn't imagine a better team.
Cobra-Puma 4 Life
LIV loses bid for World Golf Ranking points.
Good. I play in outings with shotgun starts and no real drama and I don't get ranking points.
Quote from: MU82 on October 10, 2023, 07:10:28 PM
LIV loses bid for World Golf Ranking points.
LIV golfers probably fine cashing Saudi checks as the Saudi's support Hamas.
Will Trump Golf Properties stand in solidarity with Israel and not allow LIV events on their courses? Will any courses let LIV events play on their courses while the Saudi's support Hamas?
Kids will say the darnedest things
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-shakes-head-in-response-question-from-hole-in-one-kid-video/amp
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 13, 2023, 12:31:45 PM
Kids will say the darnedest things
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-shakes-head-in-response-question-from-hole-in-one-kid-video/amp
Any comment from LIV golfers taking checks from the Saudi government who supports Hamas?
Lexi Thompson strategy at Shriners worked well
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/lexi-thompson-driver-distance-pga-tour-shriners-hospitals-for-children-open?utm_medium=email&utm_source=101423&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM45079&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 14, 2023, 01:02:05 PM
Lexi Thompson strategy at Shriners worked well
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/lexi-thompson-driver-distance-pga-tour-shriners-hospitals-for-children-open?utm_medium=email&utm_source=101423&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM45079&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Any comment from the LIV golfers about Saudi blaming Israel last weekend?
Brooks Koepka rises to top of LIV leaderboard in Saudi Arabia after round two.
https://www.livgolf.com/news/liv-golf-jeddah-presented-by-roshn-koepka-eyes-repeat-gooch-projected-no-1
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 14, 2023, 05:22:07 PM
Brooks Koepka rises to top of LIV leaderboard in Saudi Arabia after round two.
https://www.livgolf.com/news/liv-golf-jeddah-presented-by-roshn-koepka-eyes-repeat-gooch-projected-no-1
Did Brooks comment on the Saudi support for Hamas?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 14, 2023, 05:50:26 PM
Did Brooks comment on the Saudi support for Hamas?
Said he was a Democrat so he also blamed the Israelis.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 14, 2023, 07:36:45 PM
Said he was a Democrat so he also blamed the Israelis.
Wow. Thought he'd give unwavering support like the current administration
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 14, 2023, 07:45:08 PM
Wow. Thought he'd give unwavering support like the current administration
Good one. Love your shtick.
Got a round of golf in at Nicklaus course in Delhi, India yesterday. Drove 1.5 hours on rough roads and poverty to arrive at the club, and it looked like Palm Springs. Really is a tale of two worlds in India.
Course was decent and pretty good condition. Only people playing was about 4-5 foursomes of Koreans. They definitely take the game very seriously.
Wish I could say that played well, but funky grass and rental clubs made for a long day. Giving my caddie a big tip was the highlight of the day.
Quote from: Goose on October 14, 2023, 09:47:23 PM
Got a round of golf in at Nicklaus course in Delhi, India yesterday. Drove 1.5 hours on rough roads and poverty to arrive at the club, and it looked like Palm Springs. Really is a tale of two worlds in India.
Course was decent and pretty good condition. Only people playing was about 4-5 foursomes of Koreans. They definitely take the game very seriously.
Wish I could say that played well, but funky grass and rental clubs made for a long day. Giving my caddie a big tip was the highlight of the day.
What are your thoughts on Nicklaus courses? Not a fan personally of his courses
His work has evolved. I have played three of his courses on the west side of Michigan. The Bear in Traverse City was built in his 80's phase of building courses that only he could play. They played the Michigan PGA there for years and have as many scores around 90 as they did near par. It has been softened over the years.
Harbor Shores near Benton Harbor is actually one of the coolest brownfield reclamation stories ever. Unwalkable because it is built in sections. Not that hard from tee to green. The green complexes are the main defense. Number 10 is the most insane green I have ever seen. And the wind off the lake.
American Dunes has a great back story. Look it up. From an architecture standpoint, he took an existing course, bulldozed it, and started over. Removed 3000 trees from what had been one of the tightest courses in the state in order to expose the dunes. There is one hole listed as a par 4 that you need to play as a par 5. Other than that, manage your tee ball and enjoy the dunes. The green complexes are less severe than Harbor Shores, built 15 years earlier 50 miles away.
Quote from: tower912 on October 15, 2023, 07:47:43 AM
His work has evolved. I have played three of his courses on the west side of Michigan. The Bear in Traverse City was built in his 80's phase of building courses that only he could play. They played the Michigan PGA there for years and have as many scores around 90 as they did near par. It has been softened over the years.
Harbor Shores near Benton Harbor is actually one of the coolest brownfield reclamation stories ever. Unwalkable because it is built in sections. Not that hard from tee to green. The green complexes are the main defense. Number 10 is the most insane green I have ever seen. And the wind off the lake.
American Dunes has a great back story. Look it up. From an architecture standpoint, he took an existing course, bulldozed it, and started over. Removed 3000 trees from what had been one of the tightest courses in the state in order to expose the dunes. There is one hole listed as a par 4 that you need to play as a par 5. Other than that, manage your tee ball and enjoy the dunes. The green complexes are less severe than Harbor Shores, built 15 years earlier 50 miles away.
The Bull in Wisconsin is a terrible course that coasts on his name and the price point. There are so many options in this state for championship style courses, I'd put the Bull way down the list of courses to play. So many of his courses are built with his game in mind than a pure playability for all types of players.
I have heard nothing but good things about the Michigan courses, though
When was The Bull built?
Quote from: tower912 on October 15, 2023, 09:20:12 AM
When was The Bull built?
2003
Right down the road is a Palmer course, the Bog. It's a bad course, too
Quote from: tower912 on October 15, 2023, 07:47:43 AM
His work has evolved. I have played three of his courses on the west side of Michigan. The Bear in Traverse City was built in his 80's phase of building courses that only he could play. They played the Michigan PGA there for years and have as many scores around 90 as they did near par. It has been softened over the years.
Harbor Shores near Benton Harbor is actually one of the coolest brownfield reclamation stories ever. Unwalkable because it is built in sections. Not that hard from tee to green. The green complexes are the main defense. Number 10 is the most insane green I have ever seen. And the wind off the lake.
American Dunes has a great back story. Look it up. From an architecture standpoint, he took an existing course, bulldozed it, and started over. Removed 3000 trees from what had been one of the tightest courses in the state in order to expose the dunes. There is one hole listed as a par 4 that you need to play as a par 5. Other than that, manage your tee ball and enjoy the dunes. The green complexes are less severe than Harbor Shores, built 15 years earlier 50 miles away.
In the early days, the clients requested that Jack design difficult courses . Some with hopes of attracting a professional tournament . The Bear was a classic example. So was The Club at Wynstone in North Barrington, IL An impossible course at the time for the club members .
As time went by, the clients developing golf course communities realized that hard courses were driving away business. A modern flexible design was then adapted y the Nicklaus design company.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 15, 2023, 09:33:59 AM
2003
Right down the road is a Palmer course, the Bog. It's a bad course, too
The two Palmer courses on this side of the state are The Ravines near Saugatuck and Manitou Passage (formerly King's Crossing) on the Leelanau peninsula. Radically different courses due to topography. Both seem to have the ethos of playable for the casual golfer, challenging for a stick trying to post a score from the tips.
Quote from: tower912 on October 15, 2023, 11:37:17 AM
The two Palmer courses on this side of the state are The Ravines near Saugatuck and Manitou Passage (formerly King's Crossing) on the Leelanau peninsula. Radically different courses due to topography. Both seem to have the ethos of playable for the casual golfer, challenging for a stick trying to post a score from the tips.
Palmer has another course in Lake Geneva. More playable but the greens are bad. That's probably on course maintenance, though
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 15, 2023, 09:33:59 AM
2003
Right down the road is a Palmer course, the Bog. It's a bad course, too
Man, the Bog STINKS. I'm always amazed when people in SE WI were amped to play there, if it a first timer
First time I heard anybody say something good about Harbor Shores. Universally panned by our group of not very good golfers.
Quote from: JWags85 on October 15, 2023, 11:46:23 AM
Man, the Bog STINKS. I'm always amazed when people in SE WI were amped to play there, if it a first timer
There's a few good holes on it but generally, it's not good. Save a few bucks and play Washington County
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 15, 2023, 12:44:55 PM
There's a few good holes on it but generally, it's not good. Save a few bucks and play Washington County
The most underrated course in the area for a good 20 years at least
Quote from: tower912 on October 15, 2023, 11:37:17 AM
The two Palmer courses on this side of the state are The Ravines near Saugatuck and Manitou Passage (formerly King's Crossing) on the Leelanau peninsula. Radically different courses due to topography. Both seem to have the ethos of playable for the casual golfer, challenging for a stick trying to post a score from the tips.
Played King's Crossing a lot back in the day when I was a junior golfer. Had a family house on Little Traverse. Our lake neighbor would come with, he always promised to take me to his course down the lakeshore when I got to high school.
He died when I was in 8th grade unfortunately. It wasn't until 6-7 years ago I realized he was talking about Crystal Downs.
I had an in at Crystal Downs for about a year. Co-worker's bil was a greenskeeper there. Just trying to sync the schedule.
Then.......divorce. Noooooooooooo!
Quote from: tower912 on October 15, 2023, 05:43:26 PM
I had an in at Crystal Downs for about a year. Co-worker's bil was a greenskeeper there. Just trying to sync the schedule.
Then.......divorce. Noooooooooooo!
Ugh.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on October 15, 2023, 12:40:29 PM
First time I heard anybody say something good about Harbor Shores. Universally panned by our group of not very good golfers.
Too hard? Too easy? Too gimmicky? Poor conditioning?
RIP Ivor Robeson, the voice of the Open
https://x.com/theopen/status/1714197969681981688?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 17, 2023, 04:32:02 PM
RIP Ivor Robeson, the voice of the Open
https://x.com/theopen/status/1714197969681981688?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
A high class individual. Always looked forward to hearing his announcements .
Talor Gooch, the hottest LIV golfer playing at in the LIV event at Doral in front of the same size crowds I play in front of.
Quote from: tower912 on October 22, 2023, 07:15:48 PM
Talor Gooch, the hottest LIV golfer playing at in the LIV event at Doral in front of the same size crowds I play in front of.
Very disappointing the front runner for the Republican Party presidential race is hosting a Saudi sponsored sporting event when they have publicly blamed Israel for what happened on October 7th and aren't supporting their activities in Gaza. Actions speak louder than words.
Guess some people would rather line their pocketbooks instead of doing the right thing
Quote from: tower912 on October 22, 2023, 07:15:48 PM
Talor Gooch, the hottest LIV golfer playing at in the LIV event at Doral in front of the same size crowds I play in front of.
Bryson Dechambeau team won the team championship. Pocketed $14 million
I think next year no events will be held at Trump Courses and more international where the interest level is strong
How many OWGR points for playing a joke format in front of tiny crowds?
https://golf.com/travel/playboy-fazio-incredible-course-dead/
Read the story. Don't worry, there is nothing NSFW in it. But buried deep in it is a line that will grab your attention.
Does anybody know this guy?
Also, I am a big fan of reopening closed courses. I wish they would do it around here.
Quote from: tower912 on October 25, 2023, 01:27:19 PM
https://golf.com/travel/playboy-fazio-incredible-course-dead/
Read the story. Don't worry, there is nothing NSFW in it. But buried deep in it is a line that will grab your attention.
Does anybody know this guy?
Also, I am a big fan of reopening closed courses. I wish they would do it around here.
Any time MU Basketball, Playboy and Golf are in the same article it is well worth reading 8-)
Quote from: tower912 on October 25, 2023, 01:27:19 PM
https://golf.com/travel/playboy-fazio-incredible-course-dead/
Read the story. Don't worry, there is nothing NSFW in it. But buried deep in it is a line that will grab your attention.
Does anybody know this guy?
Also, I am a big fan of reopening closed courses. I wish they would do it around here.
Sorry. Won't read. As a Christian and family values believer, I won't indulge in anything glorifying filth like Playboy
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 25, 2023, 01:58:46 PM
Sorry. Won't read. As a Christian and family values believer, I won't indulge in anything glorifying filth like Playboy
Won't even step on property at Grand Geneva. Too much history of sin.
Quote from: 🏀 on October 25, 2023, 03:40:29 PM
Won't even step on property at Grand Geneva. Too much history of sin.
Yup. Typical Walworth sleaze.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 25, 2023, 03:41:40 PM
Yup. Typical Walworth sleaze.
I keep a close eye on that Kikkomann factory. Can't just be making soy sauce there, wonder if the Buffon's son visits.
Quote from: 🏀 on October 25, 2023, 03:44:17 PM
I keep a close eye on that Kikkomann factory. Can't just be making soy sauce there, wonder if the Buffon's son visits.
Probably. The crime family has long arms and walworth is a crime-ridden cesspool
LIV Teams are attracting some acquistion interest.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-pros-and-cons-of-investing-in-a-liv-golf-team
Quote from: Herman Cain on October 28, 2023, 04:36:06 PM
LIV Teams are attracting some acquistion interest.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-pros-and-cons-of-investing-in-a-liv-golf-team
Uh, huh
A minor Marquette reference buried in this story. It's a good read.
https://golf.com/travel/playboy-fazio-incredible-course-dead/
PGA Tour rejects outside investor proposal. I guess they like The LIV deal better .
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/endeavor-pulls-bid-pga-tour-2023-pif?utm_medium=email&utm_source=102923&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM45539&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Quote from: tower912 on October 25, 2023, 01:27:19 PM
https://golf.com/travel/playboy-fazio-incredible-course-dead/
Read the story. Don't worry, there is nothing NSFW in it. But buried deep in it is a line that will grab your attention.
Does anybody know this guy?
Also, I am a big fan of reopening closed courses. I wish they would do it around here.
Nice story, Tower - thanks for sharing.
Quote from: tower912 on October 25, 2023, 01:27:19 PM
https://golf.com/travel/playboy-fazio-incredible-course-dead/
Read the story. Don't worry, there is nothing NSFW in it. But buried deep in it is a line that will grab your attention.
Does anybody know this guy?
Also, I am a big fan of reopening closed courses. I wish they would do it around here.
What's related and/or not related was I just went to a wedding (my wife's goddaughter) in Vernon, NJ at The Farm at Glenwood Mountain 4 weeks ago. It's in the same town as the golf course. You would never know you were in New Jersey in that part of the state.
Please feel free to call me stupid after reading this:
I just got done walking the beach along Pebble Beach golf course. I've played and watched golf for over 40 years and never knew that it was located in Carmel. For some reason, I always assumed it was in LA.
Maybe because it's an early season tournament or maybe because of the celebrities but I just never even thought about the location.
Quote from: Jockey on November 03, 2023, 03:25:26 PM
Please feel free to call me stupid after reading this:
I just got done walking the beach along Pebble Beach golf course. I've played and watched golf for over 40 years and never knew that it was located in Carmel. For some reason, I always assumed it was in LA.
Maybe because it's an early season tournament or maybe because of the celebrities but I just never even thought about the location.
Huh
Jockey
That takes balls to admit that in golf thread. Explains a lot.
Quote from: Goose on November 03, 2023, 06:46:14 PM
Jockey
That takes balls to admit that in golf thread. Explains a lot.
People can like what I say or not, but it'll always be the truth.
BTW, you and Unc showed a ton of restraint.
Quote from: Jockey on November 03, 2023, 03:25:26 PM
Please feel free to call me stupid after reading this:
I just got done walking the beach along Pebble Beach golf course. I've played and watched golf for over 40 years and never knew that it was located in Carmel. For some reason, I always assumed it was in LA.
Maybe because it's an early season tournament or maybe because of the celebrities but I just never even thought about the location.
Surprised the weather didn't give it away. Can get wet out there.
did anyone know nick p. back in the day? nice writer
Cam Smith has a modest final round and finishes second in the Hong Kong open. Needs as many high finishes as possible in non LIV events to accumulate OWGR points. Doesn't necessarily matter for him as much as others because he has 5 year major exemption from British Open win. I think British Open gives winners exemption till age 60
www. Waaaaaaahhhhh.com
Quote from: tower912 on November 12, 2023, 11:50:49 AM
www. Waaaaaaahhhhh.com
Max Homa wins the Nedbank on the DP World Tour. Good to see Max take his game on the road and get a win.
Quote from: tower912 on November 12, 2023, 11:50:49 AM
www. Waaaaaaahhhhh.com
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=f_2hpDdBuSb5px43&v=NDVAQE7nplU&feature=youtu.be
Rory resigning from Tour Board. Hopefully this gives him more time to work on his game
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/rory-mcilroy-resigns-pga-tour-board-2023/amp
tiger cub charlie, a freshman on the benjamin school golf team won the florida hs championship shooting 78-76
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tiger-woods-son-accomplishes-feat-father-never-has-high-school
Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 16, 2023, 05:22:19 PM
tiger cub charlie, a freshman on the benjamin school golf team won the florida hs championship shooting 78-76
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tiger-woods-son-accomplishes-feat-father-never-has-high-school
Take home over Fowler at the President's Cup
Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 16, 2023, 05:22:19 PM
tiger cub charlie, a freshman on the benjamin school golf team won the florida hs championship shooting 78-76
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tiger-woods-son-accomplishes-feat-father-never-has-high-school
Pfft, Class 1A, basically beating out Sister Mary's School for the Blind
Zinger out at NBC. He was pretty bad. Wonder who replaces him
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 19, 2023, 08:32:21 AM
Zinger out at NBC. He was pretty bad. Wonder who replaces him
Pretty bad is an understatement. He was the worst color guy providing commentary on any sport on a major network.
Tiger to play in his own tournament.
Quote from: tower912 on November 19, 2023, 11:54:00 AM
Tiger to play in his own tournament.
I think Tiger will win a Tournament in the coming year. He is walking well again, which means he is the best player in Professional Golf again.
Not anymore.
Quote from: Herman Cain on November 19, 2023, 12:03:43 PM
I think Tiger will win a Tournament in the coming year. He is walking well again, which means he is the best player in Professional Golf again.
No one's going to chomp on bait that stinky Herm.
Aberg and Hojgaard double dip weekend
Cantlay and X about to joint the bone saw tour
Team Europe looking pretty good
If Tiger finishes four rounds of a tournament, I'd call that a win.
Burmester qualifies for British Open
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/dean-burmester-joburn-open-liv-golfer-dp-world-tour-british-open-qualifying
rahm being offered $600 million to join LIV
Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 28, 2023, 03:34:23 PM
rahm being offered $600 million to join LIV
Will he sell his soul to join anti-semites?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 28, 2023, 03:42:20 PM
Will he sell his soul to join anti-semites?
Or will he stick with the Islamaphobics?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 28, 2023, 05:22:27 PM
The Saudi's who are funding LIV
The same Saudi Arabia that is working on and close to a peace deal to make Israel an ally?
Quote from: WhiteTrash on November 28, 2023, 07:33:04 PM
The same Saudi Arabia that is working on and close to a peace deal to make Israel an ally?
The same ones who blamed Israel for October 7?
Has anyone ever sent a Scotty Cameron back in for refinishing? I've been kicking it around for a few years, but always worry it will change the putter. And I've had it in the bag for 20+ years.
That is a very gracious host, letting everyone else have a nice head start.
Tiger looked solid for a lot of the round. A lot of rust to get rid of.
Quote from: tower912 on November 30, 2023, 03:44:28 PM
That is a very gracious host, letting everyone else have a nice head start.
Tiger looked solid for a lot of the round. A lot of rust to get rid of.
He even lost to Flower. Embarrassing
He finished. Victory.
He won't win. Walking 72 holes will be a lot of steps forward.
Quote from: tower912 on November 30, 2023, 03:48:43 PM
He finished. Victory.
He won't win. Walking 72 holes will be a lot of steps forward.
I'm just glad he hasn't sold out an is using a cart. Carts are for the old, lazy and fat.
Amen.
Also for the geographically inhospitable.
Quote from: tower912 on November 30, 2023, 06:40:30 PM
Amen.
Also for the geographically inhospitable.
Just call it as it is, bad design.
Some courses, due to the land on which they are built, have a half mile and a couple hundred feet of elevation between holes. I played over 100 rounds of golf, 75% of them walking. There are some courses that you look at and say 'nah, give me the cart.'
Quote from: tower912 on December 01, 2023, 05:32:34 AM
Some courses, due to the land on which they are built, have a half mile and a couple hundred feet of elevation between holes. I played over 100 rounds of golf, 75% of them walking. There are some courses that you look at and say 'nah, give me the cart.'
Not the easiest thing to say, but should a course have been built there then?
I'll concede to special circumstances, such as Harbor Shores utilizing the old industrial corridor, but part of great architecture shouldn't necessitate a cart. If you need a cart, did the course really fit the lay of land or is it overdone and forced?
I understand your point. Then I think of the Northern Michigan courses that I have played that were built on the same topography as the adjoining ski resorts. I am glad the courses are there and it is not practical to walk them.
Plus, the cart noise allows the Bigfoot to get out of sight.
Quote from: tower912 on December 01, 2023, 06:23:47 AM
I understand your point. Then I think of the Northern Michigan courses that I have played that were built on the same topography as the adjoining ski resorts. I am glad the courses are there and it is not practical to walk them.
Plus, the cart noise allows the Bigfoot to get out of sight.
I'm good with those, for the most part. Arnie's course off Sugarfoot was lousy.
Tigers ankle held up. Once he gets back in form he should back to his winning ways.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39015336/tiger-woods-returns-competitive-golf-squirrely-75-soreness
Quote from: tower912 on December 01, 2023, 06:23:47 AM
I understand your point. Then I think of the Northern Michigan courses that I have played that were built on the same topography as the adjoining ski resorts. I am glad the courses are there and it is not practical to walk them.
Plus, the cart noise allows the Bigfoot to get out of sight.
It's why I love Sand Valley so much. Not a golf cart in sight. Pace of play enforced and never an issue.
Go to places that charge $150 or so to play with golf carts parking next to greens, wrong side of greens and on tee boxes and rounds taking 5+ hours.
I am in for Sand Valley.
The Loop was originally walking only. And if ever there was a resort course to walk, it is the Loop. They eventually gave into pressure and allowed carts.
I don't have heroes. The closest I have come recently was a couple of years ago seeing an 80 year old golfer walking and pushing a cart. I walked up to this complete stranger and told him I wanted to be like him when I grew up and that he was an inspiration.
His reply, "I've got to get in as many rounds walking as I can, because I am leaving for Florida soon and those a$$holes down there always make me take a cart."
Quote from: tower912 on December 01, 2023, 08:22:38 AM
I am in for Sand Valley.
The Loop was originally walking only. And if ever there was a resort course to walk, it is the Loop. They eventually gave into pressure and allowed carts.
I don't have heroes. The closest I have come recently was a couple of years ago seeing an 80 year old golfer walking and pushing a cart. I walked up to this complete stranger and told him I wanted to be like him when I grew up and that he was an inspiration.
His reply, "I've got to get in as many rounds walking as I can, because I am leaving for Florida soon and those a$$holes down there always make me take a cart."
I was playing a Milwaukee county course about 15 years ago. It's 95 and humid as hell. I'm hungover as hell and plopped in a cart with a buddy of mine who is in the same predicament. We get a single sent out with us. It's a guy about 80 plus with the bag umbrella and he's walking. I am thinking he'll slow us down.
He not only outplays us, he informs us he was recently released from the hospital after heart surgery and his doctor told him to exercise but take it easy. He walks 18 in the heat on a course with some up and down.
Did I feel like a lazy oaf
Tiger with a solid 70 today including a triple. Shaking off the rust .
Continue to believe it is possible for him to win this year . He is only playing a handful of majors and his event at Riviera .
He alluded to 'once a month'. The majors, Players and Riviera?
Quote from: tower912 on December 01, 2023, 07:40:02 PM
He alluded to 'once a month'. The majors, Players and Riviera?
I think that is his max he said he would play.
Golf ball distance rollback coming. I applaud this. The game was getting too easy.
Quote from: tower912 on December 02, 2023, 07:43:07 AM
Golf ball distance rollback coming. I applaud this. The game was getting too easy.
All the right people are mad. Kudos to the USGA and R & A
Here in Colorado, courses have to mandate carts or risk losing significant tee times (revenue) due to slow play of walking some of these courses. Also, some of you 'flat-landers' cant handle the lack of oxygen 8-).
Tiger with a -1 71 today. Continues to make slow solid progress.
Quote from: MU_B on November 30, 2023, 01:45:53 PM
Has anyone ever sent a Scotty Cameron back in for refinishing? I've been kicking it around for a few years, but always worry it will change the putter. And I've had it in the bag for 20+ years.
great question, sorry no one had an answer for you B. i'm a stroke lab guy and my wife's scotty is only a year old, so too new for refinishing...i hope ;)
As a change, I enjoy watching the men and women play the same course at the same time from different tees.
Quote from: tower912 on December 02, 2023, 08:59:36 PM
As a change, I enjoy watching the men and women play the same course at the same time from different tees.
The Aussie Open deserves more love from the world's top golfers. Tiger's cash grab needs to move weekends. Pretty disgraceful Jason Day is playing that.
Joaquin Niemann wins Australian Open
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/joaquin-niemann-australian-open-playoff-win-top-50-world-ranking-british-open/amp
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 02, 2023, 03:47:33 PM
Tiger with a -1 71 today. Continues to make slow solid progress.
Build his confidence for when he's contending on the Champions Tour
I agree with Chamblee in regards to the ball distance rollback.
Quote from: tower912 on December 03, 2023, 04:47:03 PM
I agree with Chamblee in regards to the ball distance rollback.
His stance solidifies my belief it's the right choice
Your stance convinces me he is right.
Tiger ecstatic about where he is at in his return to golf.
https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2023/12/3/23986618/tiger-woods-ecstatic-golf-return-hero-world-challenge
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 03, 2023, 05:15:38 PM
Tiger ecstatic about where he is at in his return to golf.
https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2023/12/3/23986618/tiger-woods-ecstatic-golf-return-hero-world-challenge
I'm guessing he's ecstatic just to be walking.
The golf ball rollback requires a 15 yard rollback at 127 mph swing speed. Now, how many here have a 127 mph swing speed? Yeah. Me neither. Mr. 95 mph raises his hand sheepishly. However, the technology of golf balls has evolved to where golf ball manufacturers make different golf balls for different swing speeds. Callaway, Wilson, Srixon, Taylor Made, most on-line only brands, etc., have golf balls designed to maximize distance for those with 90 mph swings. They also will tell you that gain is minimized if you swing 105 mph. Fast swingers won't see the same gains with a low compression golf ball as slow swingers do. Or so the manufacturers say.
What I think this means is that manufacturers are still going to be making balls that don't adversely affect slow swingers as much as the players who swing as the professionals. The pros will see a 15 yard drop, I predict that the 95 yard swinger will see a 5 yard drop. And that may be able to be mitigated with loft and shaft choices.
If it goes through. I think the blowback will be too intense and chicks still dig the long ball. (90's MLB reference)
Quote from: tower912 on December 04, 2023, 01:31:09 PM
The golf ball rollback requires a 15 yard rollback at 127 mph swing speed. Now, how many here have a 127 mph ball speed? Yeah. Me neither. Mr. 95 mph raises his hand sheepishly. However, the technology of golf balls has evolved to where golf ball manufacturers make different golf balls for different swing speeds. Callaway, Wilson, Srixon, Taylor Made, most on-line only brands, etc., have golf balls designed to maximize distance for those with 90 mph swings. They also will tell you that gain is minimized if you swing 105 mph. Fast swingers won't see the same gains with a low compression golf ball as slow swingers do. Or so the manufacturers say.
What I think this means is that manufacturers are still going to be making balls that don't adversely affect slow swingers as much as the players who swing as the professionals. The pros will see a 15 yard drop, I predict that the 95 yard swinger will see a 5 yard drop. And that may be able to be mitigated with loft and shaft choices.
If it goes through. I think the blowback will be too intense and chicks still dig the long ball. (90's MLB reference)
Tiger and Rory are for it.
Done deal
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 04, 2023, 01:39:12 PM
Tiger and Rory are for it.
Done deal
Beyond tired of hearing Rory's opinions.
Quote from: RJax55 on December 04, 2023, 02:31:45 PM
Beyond tired of hearing Rory's opinions.
Lot of people feel that way, but his opinion still carries a lot of weight
Quote from: tower912 on December 04, 2023, 01:31:09 PM
The golf ball rollback requires a 15 yard rollback at 127 mph swing speed. Now, how many here have a 127 mph swing speed? Yeah. Me neither. Mr. 95 mph raises his hand sheepishly. However, the technology of golf balls has evolved to where golf ball manufacturers make different golf balls for different swing speeds. Callaway, Wilson, Srixon, Taylor Made, most on-line only brands, etc., have golf balls designed to maximize distance for those with 90 mph swings. They also will tell you that gain is minimized if you swing 105 mph. Fast swingers won't see the same gains with a low compression golf ball as slow swingers do. Or so the manufacturers say.
What I think this means is that manufacturers are still going to be making balls that don't adversely affect slow swingers as much as the players who swing as the professionals. The pros will see a 15 yard drop, I predict that the 95 yard swinger will see a 5 yard drop. And that may be able to be mitigated with loft and shaft choices.
If it goes through. I think the blowback will be too intense and chicks still dig the long ball. (90's MLB reference)
If I remember correctly, you play the Wilson Staff Duo, right? If so, both the past and current models are likely to conform to the new rule without any changes.
I'm no fan of the ruling. In the world of recreation golf (which is played by 98% of all golfers), distance is nowhere near the game's leading issues. Between this ball rollback and the utter cluster occurring with the pro tours, the game's "leaders" seem to be hellbent on significantly denting golf's popularity in the next 5-10 years.
Quote from: RJax55 on December 04, 2023, 02:48:18 PM
If I remember correctly, you play the Wilson Staff Duo, right? If so, both the past and current models are likely to conform to the new rule without any changes.
I'm no fan of the ruling. In the world of recreation golf (which is played by 98% of all golfers), distance is nowhere near the game's leading issues. Between this ball rollback and the utter cluster occurring with the pro tours, the game's "leaders" seem to be hellbent on significantly denting golf's popularity in the next 5-10 years.
Could've just bifurcated, but we can't have nice things.
I have in the past. I played many different balls over the lastcouple of years. And your thoughts parallel mine.
And who knows, maybe the governing bodies ARE trying to get the casual weekend booze hounds out of the game.
My question about bifurcation is where does the line get drawn? High School tournaments? USGA junior tourneys? County amateurs?
Quote from: 🏀 on December 04, 2023, 02:50:50 PM
Could've just bifurcated, but we can't have nice things.
Nope. The stewards of the game seem hell bent on making poor decisions and alienating people. Oh well.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 04, 2023, 02:34:30 PM
Lot of people feel that way, but his opinion still carries a lot of weight
I got a good laugh at him saying that the average guy isn't going to miss 5-10 yards off the tee. I'll remember that when I see his next TaylorMade driver ad, lol.
IMO, you will see more graphite shafts, a little less stiff, with more stable heads/faces, combined with lower compression golf balls. Yup, it will cost you, but I think it will be possible to largely negate it for the average Joe.
Quote from: RJax55 on December 04, 2023, 02:53:46 PM
Nope. The stewards of the game seem hell bent on making poor decisions and alienating people. Oh well.
Which is good. We need to shrink the game
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 04, 2023, 03:32:03 PM
Which is good. We need to shrink the game
Father time was going to do that anyway with the end of the boomers.
Quote from: RJax55 on December 04, 2023, 03:35:33 PM
Father time was going to do that anyway with the end of the boomers.
Thank god
Quote from: cheebs09 on December 03, 2023, 09:04:55 PM
I'm guessing he's ecstatic just to be walking.
He ecstatic his ex wife missed when she swung the 9 iron.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 04, 2023, 06:28:57 PM
He ecstatic his ex wife missed when she swung the 9 iron.
I wonder
Jon Rahm off to LIV in a deal worth $450-$600 million.
Good money, if you can get it.
https://www.wsj.com/sports/golf/jon-rahm-liv-pga-tour-2341016e
Quote from: Pakuni on December 07, 2023, 11:29:14 AM
Jon Rahm off to LIV in a deal worth $450-$600 million.
Good money, if you can get it.
https://www.wsj.com/sports/golf/jon-rahm-liv-pga-tour-2341016e
Men's professional golf outside the majors is going the way of tennis and IRL/Cart before it.
Niche sport going to become an albatross to show on TV. Arnold Palmer, where have you gone?
While.golfing today, I realized that the golf ball rollback will make.my summer.yardages look like my spring and fall yardages. I can manage that.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 07, 2023, 12:04:14 PM
Men's professional golf outside the majors is going the way of tennis and IRL/Cart before it.
Niche sport going to become an albatross to show on TV. Arnold Palmer, where have you gone?
Yep. The majors and the Ryder Cup.
Beyond sad what has happened in the pro game. I haven't watch a second of men's golf since The British Open. Good chance I will not watch until The Masters. How Jay Monahan still has a job is quite something.
Quote from: RJax55 on December 07, 2023, 12:26:46 PM
Yep. The majors and the Ryder Cup.
Beyond sad what has happened in the pro game. I haven't watch a second of men's golf since The British Open. Good chance I will not watch until The Masters. How Jay Monahan still has a job is quite something.
https://x.com/daniel_rapaport/status/1732817218264834443?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Truly incredible.
Quote from: RJax55 on December 07, 2023, 12:26:46 PM
Yep. The majors and the Ryder Cup.
Beyond sad what has happened in the pro game. I haven't watch a second of men's golf since The British Open. Good chance I will not watch until The Masters. How Jay Monahan still has a job is quite something.
https://www.si.com/golf/news/pga-tour-tournament-officials-see-trouble-ahead-as-costs-spiral
Rahm to LIV really is disappointing to me. Sad day in golf, IMO.
It pisses me off and will diminish the PGA tour. It is still not enough to make me watch, or even care about, LIV.
tower
I am pissed off at everyone involved. I will not be watching LIV again this year and likely watching a lot less of the PGA.
Who else do you think is going to take the money and run?
Cantlay.
Quote from: Goose on December 07, 2023, 02:31:50 PM
tower
I am pissed off at everyone involved. I will not be watching LIV again this year and likely watching a lot less of the PGA.
Who else do you think is going to take the money and run?
If Rahm got assurance his Ryder Cup status was safe, a whole lotta European players gunna be gone.
LPGA is better viewing anyway
Rico
Great point. The PGA is in a very difficult position, and I do think they have the leadership to keep up from sinking completely.
I see myself watching golf from Kapalua to the Masters, then majors only.
I used to watch every weekend when I had a moment.
Rahm to LIV is good for CW Sports
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 07, 2023, 03:08:22 PM
If Rahm got assurance his Ryder Cup status was safe, a whole lotta European players gunna be gone.
LPGA is better viewing anyway
You're very right.
You're very wrong.
I like the LPGA because their yardages are way closer to mine. 200 yard 7-irons? GTFO!
Agree with Tower and Goose sentiments. I can't see myself ever getting invested in LIV. Maybe the younger generation will. IDK.
Norman has destroyed golf. I've only been watching the LPGA.
I'll watch the majors, and that's it.
Kolek 'em.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 07, 2023, 10:34:45 PM
Norman has destroyed golf. I've only been watching the LPGA.
sorry to disagree here muggs, but i think jay monahan destroyed PGA golf. monahan sat back smuggly(no pun intended muggs) and dared anyone to crap in his litter box. while he was doing that, they(PGA) sat on a big steaming pile of money short of full disclosure.
many of the players are like...what do ya got down there?? rightly or wrongly, monahan tried to play dictator and picked and chose who were in his "club" tiger, mcllroy, speith?, thomas?, scheffler??, and even with those, once the latest ruling on LIV vs PGA came out, lil rory was royally p!ssed off because of how much $$ he left on the table. what the hell, tiger doesn't need the money so he's just going along to get along.
monahan severely over played his hand here
After the PGA hung its players out to dry and gave up its position of moral superiority by agreeing to merge with LIV in the middle of the night, its hard for me to mad at anyone that flips at this point.
Quote from: MUBurrow on December 08, 2023, 08:38:31 AM
After the PGA hung its players out to dry and gave up its position of moral superiority by agreeing to merge with LIV in the middle of the night, its hard for me to mad at anyone that flips at this point.
I don't disagree but the sport is gross
Outside of the PGA-LIV politics, genuinely happy for Rahm. He's a good dude, entertaining and incredible competitor, and been the most consistent top player in the world for almost 5 years, and now he's getting generational wealth. Vamos Jefe
Quote from: MUBurrow on December 08, 2023, 08:38:31 AM
After the PGA hung its players out to dry and gave up its position of moral superiority by agreeing to merge with LIV in the middle of the night, its hard for me to mad at anyone that flips at this point.
Every time something happens that makes a sport more lucrative for the athletes people boycott and claim that the sport's death knell is around the corner.
Curt Flood and free agency, the AFL, the ABA, the WHA, NIL and now LIV - people stomp their feet, boycott or even whine that they'll become fans of women's versions of the sport. LOL, never happens.
After a bit, the sports end up stronger and more successful as the organizations that govern them become more player friendly.
A few Scoopers can boycott men's golf (or at least say they will) but everything will turn out fine in the end. The Saudi money isn't all that more dirty than the cash that's been fueling the engine forever. But it does give people a chance to jump on a moral high horse - a favorite hobby around here.
Yea, I'm not sure I can really blame Rahm here. I think the PGA lost the moral high ground when agreeing to a deal with PIF. I'm guessing that was the major change for Rahm along with LIV maybe accepting some of his format changes.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 08, 2023, 11:32:31 AM
Every time something happens that makes a sport more lucrative for the athletes people boycott and claim that the sport's death knell is around the corner.
Curt Flood and free agency, the AFL, the ABA, the WHA, NIL and now LIV - people stomp their feet, boycott or even whine that they'll become fans of women's versions of the sport. LOL, never happens.
After a bit, the sports end up stronger and more successful as the organizations that govern them become more player friendly.
A few Scoopers can boycott men's golf (or at least say they will) but everything will turn out fine in the end. The Saudi money isn't all that more dirty than the cash that's been fueling the engine forever. But it does give people a chance to jump on a moral high horse - a favorite hobby around here.
Golf is a niche sport, unlike the major sports. The current split is akin to the IRL/Cart split of the mid-90's and that sport has yet to recover. Golf, unlike the NFL which yields massive ratings and return on investment by advertisers will never be able to function as a sport where individuals are being paid guaranteed money of over $100 million a player.
As far as becoming a fan of the woman's game, my posting history clearly shows my interest in the woman's game has always been real and will continue to be real. Not all sports fans are chauvinistic pigs.
Lenny
My only issue with Liv is not seeing the best payers compete on a regular basis. Don't care where the money is coming from and never fault a guy for hitting score. I feel badly that a sport that I have enjoyed my entire life is very messed up and it pisses me off.
I will not boycott watching the PGA but my interest level for low end tournament probably will be close to zero. Likely will not be watching Liv any time soon.
I watched as much LPGA golf on non-major weekends as I did PGA golf. I spent 100x more time watching either than I did watching college football. I sent zero time watching LIV golf. I do not envision any of those things changing going forward.
Quote from: tower912 on December 08, 2023, 02:42:18 PM
I watched as much LPGA golf on non-major weekends as I did PGA golf.
And some people watch as much WNBA as NBA. But not many.
Their loss.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 08, 2023, 12:00:13 PM
As far as becoming a fan of the woman's game, my posting history clearly shows my interest in the woman's game has always been real and will continue to be real. Not all sports fans are chauvinistic pigs.
LOL. A few women and fewer men prefer watching women's softball to baseball or the LPGA to the PGA. An insignificant number, though.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 08, 2023, 04:31:52 PM
LOL. A few women and fewer men prefer watching women's softball to baseball or the LPGA to the PGA. An insignificant number, though.
And? Who said otherwise?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 08, 2023, 04:31:52 PM
LOL. A few women and fewer men prefer watching women's softball to baseball or the LPGA to the PGA. An insignificant number, though.
Thank you, Archie Bunker.
Proudly.
Wells Fargo dropping its PGA Tour event sponsorship. The tour is not healthy.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39071992/long-pga-tour-host-wells-fargo-renew-deal-2024#
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 07, 2023, 10:30:06 PM
I like the LPGA because their yardages are way closer to mine. 200 yard 7-irons? GTFO!
Agree with Tower and Goose sentiments. I can't see myself ever getting invested in LIV. Maybe the younger generation will. IDK.
The WNBA is closer to your basketball ability than the NBA. The Marquette women's team plays at a level closer to yours than the men's team. Which would you rather watch?
I'm 75 year's old. My 7 iron goes 150 yards and my driver 225-30. If there was a senior women's tour their games would be much closer to mine than Rahm's or Rory's. But I'd rather watch excellence, athletes capable of doing things I could never do, not even in my prime than something that more closely resembles my own game.
I watch women's sports including some LPGA and a lot of Olympic sports. But I watch much, much more men's sports. Tower calls that being Archie Bunker. Fair folks call it being a sports fan.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 08, 2023, 09:50:46 PM
The WNBA is closer to your basketball ability than the NBA. The Marquette women's team plays at a level closer to yours than the men's team. Which would you rather watch?
I'm 75 year's old. My 7 iron goes 150 yards and my driver 225-30. If there was a senior women's tour their games would be much closer to mine than Rahm's or Rory's. But I'd rather watch excellence, athletes capable of doing things I could never do, not even in my prime than something that more closely resembles my own game.
The average LPGA player is way closer to Rahm or Rory than the average male golfer is to the average LPGA player.
As is being shown in this weekend's tournament.
My favorite social media trope is some dude saying he's a scratch golfer saying he could hang with women on the LPGA tour or some random dude saying he could hang with women's tennis players
Quote from: Pakuni on December 08, 2023, 11:01:31 PM
The average LPGA player is way closer to Rahm or Rory than the average male golfer is to the average LPGA player.
Absolutely true - the average male golfer sucks at golf. Elite female athletes in any sport are much closer to their male counterparts than the average guy on the street player is to them. Who's disputed that?
Enjoying the heck out of the Grant Thornton
Quote from: tower912 on December 09, 2023, 01:38:04 PM
Enjoying the heck out of the Grant Thornton
You be you, hey?
Always and proudly.
Finau supposedly the next one going to Liv
#donedeal?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 09, 2023, 05:02:28 PM
What's wrong with the Grant Thornton?
He's a Crowe Horwath loyalist
Quote from: Jables1604 on December 09, 2023, 04:53:21 PM
Finau supposedly the next one going to Liv
#donedeal?
pga was lazy and not proactive. they did nothing to protect their brand while sitting on a mountain of money. they forgot about one minor detail-the players. without them, they are nada
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 08, 2023, 09:50:46 PM
The WNBA is closer to your basketball ability than the NBA. The Marquette women's team plays at a level closer to yours than the men's team. Which would you rather watch?
I'm 75 year's old. My 7 iron goes 150 yards and my driver 225-30. If there was a senior women's tour their games would be much closer to mine than Rahm's or Rory's. But I'd rather watch excellence, athletes capable of doing things I could never do, not even in my prime than something that more closely resembles my own game.
I watch women's sports including some LPGA and a lot of Olympic sports. But I watch much, much more men's sports. Tower calls that being Archie Bunker. Fair folks call it being a sports fan.
You have some gapping issues you might want to look into.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/2023-liv-golf-promotions-event-leaderboard-20-golfers-sunday/
https://twitter.com/dylan_dethier/status/1734045158105387146?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Quote from: Jables1604 on December 09, 2023, 04:53:21 PM
Finau supposedly the next one going to Liv
#donedeal?
Nyet. Nein. Nope. Not this year.
Super cool news for Sand Valley
https://x.com/usga/status/1734604025969131864?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Great news for Sand Valley. Watching top amateur golf in person is very enjoyable imo. We are very lucky to get these events in WI.
Quote from: Goose on December 12, 2023, 11:18:18 AM
Great news for Sand Valley. Watching top amateur golf in person is very enjoyable imo. We are very lucky to get these events in WI.
I'll probably volunteer at the Mid-Am.
Sedge Valley opens in '24. Supposed to be the hardest course on the property. Par-68. Can't wait to get back
Rico
Great call on mid am volunteering. I will likely do the same.
Quote from: Goose on December 12, 2023, 04:12:50 PM
Rico
Great call on mid am volunteering. I will likely do the same.
That one is on the Lido. I can't wait to see how they play it.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 12, 2023, 12:23:40 PM
I'll probably volunteer at the Mid-Am.
Sedge Valley opens in '24. Supposed to be the hardest course on the property. Par-68. Can't wait to get back
Ya sure der gonna want ewe, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2023, 11:35:13 AM
Ya sure der gonna want ewe, hey?
Yup. Proud member and volunteer for the USGA
https://golf.com/news/pga-tour-tax-filings-cost-golf-civil-wa/?amp=1
ya'll see charlie woods over shoots a par 4 hits the green 321 and rolls off
LIV gonna be calling
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tiger-woods-son-outdrives-green-impresses-dad-f-ing-nasty-shot
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 16, 2023, 05:27:02 PM
ya'll see charlie woods over shoots a par 4 hits the green 321 and rolls off
LIV gonna be calling
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tiger-woods-son-outdrives-green-impresses-dad-f-ing-nasty-shot
If he's like his father, he has too much respect for the game of golf to sellout
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 16, 2023, 05:42:32 PM
If he's like his father, he has too much respect for the game of golf to sellout
yes, probably, but never hurts to a$k, plus it's hard to predict where the pga is going. they have some serious PR boo-boos to bs their way out of. as long as you have some pga stalwarts-jack et.al. around, they may weather the storm. once some of these big guns are gone, they better have their "place" in order. do not take them for granted. that was mistake #1, 2 & 3. i will bet you rory with a few hot toddies in him will tell ya he's a little more than "disappointed" with how "things" have played out
PNC Championship is more interesting than football.
Several players who remain behind are benefitting from Jon Rahm heading to LIV
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2023/12/11/rahm-is-suspended-by-the-pga-tour-the-formality-is-a-boon-for-mackenzie-hughes-and-carl-yuan/71886627007/
https://www.si.com/golf/news/the-time-has-come-for-jay-monahan-resign-commissioner-pga-tour
I vote for Rico.
Quote from: tower912 on December 20, 2023, 07:57:00 PM
I vote for Rico.
One of the few people I trust to shrink the game.
Predictions from De Charcuterie
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/golf/bryson-dechambeau-pga-tour-liv-31736793?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
2024 Looking to be a solid to potentially excellent season for Tiger. Working on getting game ready. Looking to play once a month. I think he will be in contention on the back 9 Final round at Augusta .
https://golf.com/news/tiger-woods-2023-return-different/?amp=1
Favorite personal golf moments of the year.
Shooting a no mulligan even par round. Course was too packed to take any. Groups in front and behind watching every shot.
Playing a course new to me. Also with my kid. 9th green. Starting to rain. A ranger leading groups in off the course due to the rain. With him talking smack to me as I get ready to putt. 60 foot putt, 20 feet of break, nothing but jar in front of a bunch of people watching from the covered patio at the clubhouse. The ranger offered to buy me a drink.
Quote from: tower912 on December 28, 2023, 10:34:27 AM
Favorite personal golf moments of the year.
Shooting a no mulligan even par round. Course was too packed to take any. Groups in front and behind watching every shot.
Playing a course new to me. Also with my kid. 9th green. Starting to rain. A ranger leading groups in off the course due to the rain. With him talking smack to me as I get ready to putt. 60 foot putt, 20 feet of break, nothing but jar in front of a bunch of people watching from the covered patio at the clubhouse. The ranger offered to buy me a drink.
Favorite Personal Golf Moments of Year for me are limited. I have been only playing at a Multi Day Corporate Outing at Pinehurst in recent years. In the process of converting to Old Man Style Golf. The highlight this year was I was able to par a hole on my own ball on Pinehurst number 2. Everyone else had a bad drive in that native scrub, so we had to use my old man drive , everyone else went into deep bunker where flag was close to bunker, so we had to use my old man approach far away from the bunker and hole and then I two putted from the fringe.
Quote from: tower912 on December 28, 2023, 10:34:27 AM
Favorite personal golf moments of the year.
Shooting a no mulligan even par round. Course was too packed to take any. Groups in front and behind watching every shot.
Playing a course new to me. Also with my kid. 9th green. Starting to rain. A ranger leading groups in off the course due to the rain. With him talking smack to me as I get ready to putt. 60 foot putt, 20 feet of break, nothing but jar in front of a bunch of people watching from the covered patio at the clubhouse. The ranger offered to buy me a drink.
My highlight was being in the team room with the European Team at the Ryder Cup
Quote from: tower912 on December 28, 2023, 10:34:27 AM
Playing a course new to me. Also with my kid. 9th green. Starting to rain. A ranger leading groups in off the course due to the rain. With him talking smack to me as I get ready to putt. 60 foot putt, 20 feet of break, nothing but jar in front of a bunch of people watching from the covered patio at the clubhouse. The ranger offered to buy me a drink.
Thats amazing.
My friend belonged to a club when I was a teenager. Head pro was really cool, used to let us go off and play a quick 9 towards the end of days. One late afternoon, we go off, get through 6, playing the par 5 7th and the cranky assistant pro comes out to yell at us. Something about needing to evening water or something, probably just annoyed that there were people on the course when he wanted to shut down. Yelling to pick up our balls, threatening some sort of punishment, etc... I had driven into the rough and hacked back into the fairway like 170 out. Being a standard 15 year old in the face of a douche vague authority figure, I just step up and hit the shot anyways...1 hop and the loudest pin smack I'd ever heard as it popped in for my first ever Eagle. The assistant didn't buy me a drink, he actually drove up to the green and grabbed my ball. I wonder what dog track he's wasting away at these days...
Well done Tower. Mine was about 2 weeks ago playing in the mid-40s and windy. One of my buddies suggested moving up a tee to about 5500 yards. Started out 7 over after 5 holes. Finished 18 at 6 over. Shot even par on the back. (Stoopid par putt on 18 curled away at the last 2" or would have been under par.) We all had a blast from the forward tees and it will be interesting to see if we go back to the whites next season.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 28, 2023, 01:53:45 PM
Well done Tower. Mine was about 2 weeks ago playing in the mid-40s and windy. One of my buddies suggested moving up a tee to about 5500 yards. Started out 7 over after 5 holes. Finished 18 at 6 over. Shot even par on the back. (Stoopid par putt on 18 curled away at the last 2" or would have been under par.) We all had a blast from the forward tees and it will be interesting to see if we go back to the whites next season.
As golf czar, I'd make everyone play up a set of tees to where their games belong
That would speed things up.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/harold-varner-iii-arrested-for-dwi-according-to-report?utm_medium=email&utm_source=122923&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM47430&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
https://nypost.com/2023/12/28/sports/liv-pga-tour-expected-to-extend-merger-talks-with-masters-deadline-in-mind/amp/
https://www.si.com/golf/news/negotiation-deadline-extended-pga-tour-liv-golf
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 28, 2023, 10:53:48 AM
My highlight was being in the team room with the European Team at the Ryder Cup
Which player, which stall?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 31, 2023, 09:07:23 PM
Why do you want to know?
No big deal. If you want to keep it on the down low that's cool.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 31, 2023, 09:18:29 PM
No big deal. If you want to keep it on the down low that's cool.
Ask Herm. He'd know
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 31, 2023, 09:21:23 PM
Ask Herm. He'd know
I'd never ask anyone for info you shared with them in confidence.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 31, 2023, 09:33:10 PM
I'd never ask anyone for info you shared with them in confidence.
No, he was there
More detail from PGA Tour on Big Deal
https://golf.com/news/pga-tour-pif-extend-negotiation-deadline-2024/?amp=1
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/scottie-scheffler-beard-the-sentry-kapalua-pga-tour-golf/amp
Rory softens tone on LIV , willing to play if modeled after Indian Cricket League
https://www.foxsports.com.au/golf/mcilroy-performs-shock-uturn-and-concedes-he-would-play-liv-golf-but-on-one-condition/news-story/9c37a288aa8db4df445a5482cb99639a
Scottie Schefler has a couple solid rounds to open PGA Tour season at Kapalua.
Patrick Reed has to pay Brandel Chamblee and other news outlets lawyers fees after a judge threw out his case.
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 03, 2024, 07:13:23 PM
Rory softens tone on LIV , willing to play if modeled after Indian Cricket League
https://www.foxsports.com.au/golf/mcilroy-performs-shock-uturn-and-concedes-he-would-play-liv-golf-but-on-one-condition/news-story/9c37a288aa8db4df445a5482cb99639a
So the leader of the anti LIV crew admits he was too judgmental. Wonder if the leaders of Scoop's anti LIV crew will do likewise?
Lol
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 06, 2024, 07:35:39 AM
So the leader of the anti LIV crew admits he was too judgmental. Wonder if the leaders of Scoop's anti LIV crew will do likewise?
Lol
No, LIV is trash sports washing
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 06, 2024, 08:37:20 AM
No, LIV is trash sports washing
Yep. I don't have millions of reasons to backtrack.
There will always be a Hallmark movie that holds my interest more than watching LIV golf.
Quote from: tower912 on January 06, 2024, 08:42:52 AM
There will always be a Hallmark movie that holds my interest more than watching LIV golf.
Thats sort of what it really boils down to. Beyond the sportswashing, beyond the politics, beyond the noise...its just not an attractive product right now. Both broadcast rights and the current presentation are very lacking.
Quote from: tower912 on January 06, 2024, 06:25:15 AM
Patrick Reed has to pay Brandel Chamblee and other news outlets lawyers fees after a judge threw out his case.
Good. Reed's an idiot and cheat. His wife is an idiot, too.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2024/01/02/liv-golf-cameron-smith-wedding-shanel-naoum-australia/?itm_medium=recirc&itm_source=taboola&itm_campaign=internal&itm_content=MobileBelowArticleFeed-SMG
Fun Match Play Bryson and Sergio using only one club a 7 iron. Guess who won?
https://youtu.be/kZUZI04lC6o?si=EqIMM5fRdP4z7gQM
Just booked a trip down to Big Cedar, MO for a golf trip. Hitting up Payne's Valley, Ozark National, and Buffalo Ridge. Any food recommendations while we're down there?
Arby's
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on January 07, 2024, 05:05:18 PM
Just booked a trip down to Big Cedar, MO for a golf trip. Hitting up Payne's Valley, Ozark National, and Buffalo Ridge. Any food recommendations while we're down there?
This truck stop in Mt Vernon which is on the way has great comfort food. All made fresh on site .
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02zzjhV1B84MZq8VVFk3TNrZs7kibdfXSgJ7b9muLoCt2oAdt98rheAQ3GHwRFhMwql&id=100090567086091
chris kirk wins big both on & off the course-nice story all around
oh, and committing to a 5 iron from a 7, that took a lot of faith too and it won him the sentry
gotta make that decision and trust it as He did
DP World Tour CEO moving on to new job.
https://golf.com/news/as-saudis-pga-tour-deal-euro-tour-ceo-quits/?amp=1
Incredible return to Golf from Gary Woodland after Brain surgery
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/emotional-gary-woodland-returns-has-never-been-so-happy-to-shoot-over-par-2024/amp
Sony Open a test to see how he can endure playing on tour again
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39275462/us-open-champ-woodland-journey-back-brain-surgery
Crazy Carl Yuan making most of his opportunity in lead at Sony Open
https://www.nbcsports.com/golf/news/carl-yuan-taking-advantage-of-gift-given-when-jon-rahm-joined-liv-golf
Golfing Bad Boy has a chance to win Sony Open
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-tour-grayson-murray-sony-open-hawaii-keegan-bradley/amp
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 14, 2024, 07:46:33 AM
Golfing Bad Boy has a chance to win Sony Open
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-tour-grayson-murray-sony-open-hawaii-keegan-bradley/amp
Bad boy is a soft way to say sexual predator
Quote from: 🏀 on January 14, 2024, 04:15:17 PM
Bad boy is a soft way to say sexual predator
Herm thinks men should be able to date teenagers
Rooting for Crazy Carl Yuan
Quote from: 🏀 on January 14, 2024, 04:15:17 PM
Bad boy is a soft way to say sexual predator
Not even that. He's not some renegade bad boy, he's just historically a douche with an attitude.
Jon Rahm's new boss in the news
https://x.com/adamcrafton_/status/1747282929267466694?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Hope Yasir gets into Augusta like he wants
Quote from: 🏀 on January 14, 2024, 04:15:17 PM
Bad boy is a soft way to say sexual predator
if responding to a high school girl in an appropriate manner is a sexual predator, how do you rank that weekend at bernies dude and accused rapist you support?
yes, what grayson did was inappropriate(2017), he apologized and i believe many will say, part of the problem was bad judgement and alcohol related. he has addressed the alcohol issue and is 8 mos sober.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 16, 2024, 12:55:12 PM
if responding to a high school girl in an appropriate manner is a sexual predator, how do you rank that weekend at bernies dude and accused rapist you support?
yes, what grayson did was inappropriate(2017), he apologized and i believe many will say, part of the problem was bad judgement and alcohol related. he has addressed the alcohol issue and is 8 mos sober.
Imagine defending Grayson Murray. Wild
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 16, 2024, 01:43:26 PM
Imagine defending Grayson Murray. Wild
no more so than you guys defending bernie and his esteemed boy
btw, pointing out some facts that have been conveniently left out is not necessarily defending but carry on
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 16, 2024, 06:34:59 PM
no more so than you guys defending bernie and his esteemed boy
btw, pointing out some facts that have been conveniently left out is not necessarily defending but carry on
Imagine defending Grayson Murray. Wild.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 16, 2024, 06:58:56 PM
Imagine defending Grayson Murray. Wild.
no more so than you guys defending bernie and his esteemed boy
btw, pointing out some facts that have been conveniently left out is not necessarily defending but carry on
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 16, 2024, 09:12:07 PM
no more so than you guys defending bernie and his esteemed boy
btw, pointing out some facts that have been conveniently left out is not necessarily defending but carry on
Imagine defending Grayson Murray. Wild.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 17, 2024, 06:27:33 AM
Imagine defending Grayson Murray. Wild.
you musta passed out early last night
Legendary Tour Pro Jack Burke Jr dies at 100. Excellent obituary
https://www.pgatour.com/article/news/latest/2024/01/19/two-time-major-winner-jack-burke-jr-dies-at-100
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 19, 2024, 08:25:52 PM
Legendary Tour Pro Jack Burke Jr dies at 100. Excellent obituary
https://www.pgatour.com/article/news/latest/2024/01/19/two-time-major-winner-jack-burke-jr-dies-at-100
Jackie Burke wouldn't take Saudi money, aina?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 19, 2024, 08:45:30 PM
Jackie Burke wouldn't take Saudi money, aina?
Jackie Burke was a friend of mine at MU. Solid outside shot, got decent minutes off the bench for our Warriors. Helped make life miserable for Pistol Pete in our rout of LSU in the 1970 NIT semifinals. Really good guy, and to my knowledge at least, never took any Saudi dough.
Big day 4 Hailey Davidson aina
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 16, 2024, 12:55:12 PM
if responding to a high school girl in an appropriate manner is a sexual predator, how do you rank that weekend at bernies dude and accused rapist you support?
yes, what grayson did was inappropriate(2017), he apologized and i believe many will say, part of the problem was bad judgement and alcohol related. he has addressed the alcohol issue and is 8 mos sober.
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Amateur in contention at The American Express
https://golf.com/news/nick-dunlap-record-setting-round-pga-tour-history-amateur/?amp=1
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 21, 2024, 11:16:29 AM
Amateur in contention at The American Express
https://golf.com/news/nick-dunlap-record-setting-round-pga-tour-history-amateur/?amp=1
More on Nick Dunlap and list of amateurs to win on Tour
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/american-express-nick-dunlap-justin-thomas-amateur-win-on-pga-tour?utm_medium=email&utm_source=012124&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM48301&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 21, 2024, 12:06:13 PM
More on Nick Dunlap and list of amateurs to win on Tour
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/american-express-nick-dunlap-justin-thomas-amateur-win-on-pga-tour?utm_medium=email&utm_source=012124&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM48301&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39358581/amateur-nick-dunlap-wins-pga-tour-american-express
The amateur won. But because college athletics rules continue to be a stoopid relic of eons gone by, he didn't get the $1.5 million winner's share for doing so.
Quote from: MU82 on January 22, 2024, 08:10:14 AM
The amateur won. But because college athletics rules continue to be a stoopid relic of eons gone by, he didn't get the $1.5 million winner's share for doing so.
I think that the USGA has a big say in this as well. Since Dunlap has to be an amateur to play in the US Amateur.
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 22, 2024, 01:49:47 PM
I think that the USGA has a big say in this as well. Since Dunlap has to be an amateur to play in the US Amateur.
Correct but he also has the opportunity to earn money from endorsements that he didn't once have. The USGA relaxed that rule awhile back.
It's his choice when to decide to become a full professional. The USGA has allowed an avenue for players to earn money from equipment companies but the NCAA has not. The USGA did this largely to allow those that graduate or plan on turning pro to earn money before the US Men's Am is played
Anthony Kim considering a comeback
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39388114/anthony-kim-talks-pga-liv-return
Went to the PGA merch show last week. Always am amazed to walk that show and see all the weird stuff / new products.
First time i have seen the Callaway Paradym Smoke in person
tyrrell hatton joins LIV golf for $64mil
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 30, 2024, 12:16:08 PM
tyrrell hatton joins LIV golf for $64mil
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The PGA Tour is getting a $3 billion investment from Strategic Sports Group in a deal that would give players access to more than $1.5 billion as equity owners in the new PGA Tour Enterprises.
The launching of PGA Tour Enterprises, with SSG as a minority partner, comes eight months after the PGA Tour signed a framework agreement with the Saudi backers of LIV Golf for a commercial venture, and ultimately led to private equity groups wanting to join.
The Associated Press obtained a copy of the announcement expected to be released Wednesday morning. PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan was holding a conference call with players about the deal that was finalized Tuesday night.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-pga-tour-fenway-group-20240131-cqzxss7gnzcldm6ksqmuh67lta-story.html
https://www.pgatour.com/article/news/latest/2024/01/31/pga-tour-launches-pga-tour-enterprises-new-program-that-transforms-players-into-equity-holders
Entirely possible they held off on the announcement until after Hatton left.
LIV golf tournament threatened by food poisoning.
Only having 54 holes is a mistake.
https://nypost.com/2024/01/31/sports/pga-tours-3-billion-windfall-does-nothing-for-golf-fans/amp/
Quote from: tower912 on February 02, 2024, 12:25:53 PM
LIV golf tournament threatened by food poisoning.
Only having 54 holes is a mistake.
which food group is threatening the poisoning
so another 18 holes would prevent the food from poisoning the masses?
The number of holes is a play on the number of necessary bathrooms for that many people with food poisoning.
Joaquin Niemann posts 59 at Mayokaba
https://www.livgolf.com/leaderboard
The sogginess of Pebble, along with the temperature and marine air mass has the pros hitting clubs more relatable distances. Like, 8 irons from 147.
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 02, 2024, 09:38:21 PM
Joaquin Niemann posts 59 at Mayokaba
https://www.livgolf.com/leaderboard
59 watch at Pebble.
Left birdie putts on 16 and 17 one roll short, right in the heart.
Lift, clean, and place, though.
Joaquin Niemann wins LIV beats Sergio in 4th round of Playoff.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39460966/joaquin-niemann-outlasts-sergio-garcia-wins-liv-golf-stop
Rahm Team Wins Team Event
Movistar + entered into agreement to Stream LIV Golf in Spain. Looks like that worked out for them today.
https://www.livgolf.com/news/liv-golf-partners-with-movistar-plus-to-broadcast-tournaments-in-spain
cancelled round 4 pebble beach declare wyndham clark winner thru 54 holes
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 05, 2024, 07:52:44 AM
cancelled round 4 pebble beach declare wyndham clark winner thru 54 holes
LIV is truly taking over.
Sergio Garcia is a garbage human being
Sports washing and growing the game is dangerous business
https://x.com/jordanfabian/status/1755248670939705712?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
It's warmer in Milwaukee right now (54 degrees) than in Phoenix (49 degrees) for the WM Open!
I had an easier time golfing today than the pros did. My daddy would look at the pros playing golf in weather like that and say...
(Grunt) builds character. (Second grunt)
https://nypost.com/2024/02/08/sports/cristobal-del-solar-shoots-57-to-set-new-pga-sanctioned-event-record/
A great accomplishment. But only up 4. The.course.is 6200 , at elevation, has.had rain so the greens are soft and they are playing preferred lies.
Quote from: tower912 on February 09, 2024, 05:24:33 AM
A great accomplishment. But only up 4. The.course.is 6200 , at elevation, has.had rain so the greens are soft and they are playing preferred lies.
He was driving par-4's.
Roll the ball and equipment back. Shrink the game
we had clubhouse tickets for thursday-glad i bought the insurance-stayed home to watch in between rain/sleet. muddy parking lots were miles away. not worth attempting to trudge around with a wife and her new hip
we've gone every year for the past 6 and this is beyond the worst weather we've ever had down here in 2nd week february
oh, tell auntie reeeeko phoenix has plenty of H2O
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 09, 2024, 08:15:16 AM
we had clubhouse tickets for thursday-glad i bought the insurance-stayed home to watch in between rain/sleet. muddy parking lots were miles away. not worth attempting to trudge around with a wife and her new hip
we've gone every year for the past 6 and this is beyond the worst weather we've ever had down here in 2nd week february
oh, tell auntie reeeeko phoenix has plenty of H2O
You won't in a few years.
Alcohol sales cut off. Has it jumped the shark?
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on February 10, 2024, 06:29:53 PM
Alcohol sales cut off. Has it jumped the shark?
Imagine being in Arizona and having to be sober 😖
Dustin Johnson with a solid LIV win.
Saturday, the WM Open suspended alcohol sales because it had devolved even more so than usual into a drunken frat party. People passed out, people bloodied.
they need to gain control of this thing as it has become...oh, and there's a golf event going on. they've created a monster. general admission tix are too cheap~$35. they need to regain the dignity of golf events which set themselves apart from others...until now.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 11, 2024, 08:30:39 AM
they need to gain control of this thing as it has become...oh, and there's a golf event going on. they've created a monster. general admission tix are too cheap~$35. they need to regain the dignity of golf events which set themselves apart from others...until now.
Dignity at golf events? Huh
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2024, 07:44:36 AM
Saturday, the WM Open suspended alcohol sales because it had devolved even more so than usual into a drunken frat party. People passed out, people bloodied.
Mission accomplished. Congrats to WMO. They have been courting this for years.
Quote from: RJax55 on February 11, 2024, 08:44:20 AM
Mission accomplished. Congrats to WMO. They have been courting this for years.
We need to shrink the game
Yeah it feels like you can make things accessible to the public without turning them into drunken free-for-alls.
Impressive that many got that drunk at those prices.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 11, 2024, 08:53:40 AM
Yeah it feels like you can make things accessible to the public without turning them into drunken free-for-alls.
There's a despotic regime funding a new entity that is returning dignity to golf, thankfully
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 11, 2024, 08:42:34 AM
Dignity at golf events? Huh
don't know how many golf events you've been to, but excessive, prolonged rowdy behavior isn't tolerated at most pga events as it is almost encouraged at phoenix open. i love the wastemanagement open. i've been to the previous 6 or so, missed this one due to weather(way too much water for even reeko) and may even rethink going to future events.
we typically get the clubhouse passes and just watching the activities from above the 18th green is getting cringe-worthy. i cab imagine what's happening on hole 16. think summerfest and frat parties x 10.
if the golf isn't enough to get ya sauced up, they have medium headliner concerts afterwards at the coors light "birds nest" including a duran-duran revival on friday night
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 11, 2024, 08:56:31 AM
if the golf isn't enough to get ya sauced up, they have medium headliner concerts afterwards at the coors light "birds nest" including a duran-duran revival on friday night
You expect people to attend that sober?
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2024, 07:44:36 AM
Saturday, the WM Open suspended alcohol sales because it had devolved even more so than usual into a drunken frat party. People passed out, people bloodied.
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1756487176886358439?t=I5WTcfuOXvhbE3q-yms_mQ&s=19
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 11, 2024, 10:26:39 AM
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1756487176886358439?t=I5WTcfuOXvhbE3q-yms_mQ&s=19
This is why Shooter wanted Happy off the Tour.
A reset is definitely coming next year. Players look fed up.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on February 11, 2024, 01:09:56 PM
A reset is definitely coming next year. Players look fed up.
White people ruin everything
Hoffman wearing a back brace on his way to the playoff hole.
Congratulations to Nick Taylor.
Enjoying the videos of fan interaction with Captain Zach and Billy Ho.
Tiger back on the prowl on PGA Tour
Will be great to see him in contention on Sunday
It will be amazing to watch all the other players get so intimidated that they quit before the weekend. Congrats to Tiger on the victory!
My feelings on Tiger are well known here, but I happen to LOVE the logo for his new apparel brand, post-Nike. I guess a lot of Golf social media doesn't care for it, which seems to track considering how opposite our feelings on Tiger are.
I am intrigued. While never a Tiger fan, I do appreciate clothes that aren't generic. So, for me, it will come down to the style, fabrics, etc.
Quote from: JWags85 on February 15, 2024, 10:59:51 AM
My feelings on Tiger are well known here, but I happen to LOVE the logo for his new apparel brand, post-Nike. I guess a lot of Golf social media doesn't care for it, which seems to track considering how opposite our feelings on Tiger are.
I thought separating Sun and Day was silly, but that's just personal preference and advertising gurus who were paid a ton of money disagree with me. The logo looks A-OK.
Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2024, 02:39:06 PM
I thought separating Sun and Day was silly, but that's just personal preference and advertising gurus who were paid a ton of money disagree with me. The logo looks A-OK.
I minored in marketing and think the separation of Sun and Day is a dumb idea, not a fan.
I do like the logo though
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 15, 2024, 06:47:28 AM
Tiger back on the prowl on PGA Tour
Will be great to see him in contention on Sunday
Shanks his tee shot on 18, promptly blames back spams.
Apparently his glutes were activated but his lumbar spine wasn't.
Quote from: Jables1604 on February 15, 2024, 05:49:49 PM
Shanks his tee shot on 18, promptly blames back spams.
Apparently his glutes were activated but his lumbar spine wasn't.
A tough hole. Shanking doesn't help the cause. Although Pro's do have a rare shank so it is not just a Tiger thing.
https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/39533471
Hopefully The Big Cat can do what it takes tomorrow to make the cut for the weekend.
Had to quit ... and right when he was on the cusp of contending!
Quote from: MU82 on February 16, 2024, 06:42:49 PM
Had to quit ... and right when he was on the cusp of contending!
Took less than 48 hours for the Herman jinx to attack Tiger's body. Shame
Quote from: JWags85 on February 16, 2024, 08:01:28 PM
Took less than 48 hours for the Herman jinx to attack Tiger's body. Shame
I guess We will have to wait for the next tournament for a Tiger win
Allergic reaction to his new clothing line.
Quote from: JWags85 on February 16, 2024, 08:01:28 PM
Took less than 48 hours for the Herman jinx to attack Tiger's body. Shame
More predictable? 4elder jinx or Herm jinx?
spieth dq'd from genesis for signing an incorrect score card marking down a par 3 on hole number 4 instead of a four...
shouldn't a player always review his card with his caddy before submitting?
https://www.nbcsports.com/golf/news/jordan-spieth-disqualified-after-signing-incorrect-scorecard-at-genesis-invitational
https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/cw-dennis-miller-brad-schwartz-liv-golf-1235912317/amp/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/golf/liv-golf-loophole-majors-puig-32154222.amp
https://apnews.com/article/liv-golf-masters-schauffele-mcilroy-pga-majors-1831410463338bf659f18c914bbf30c6
Joaquin Niemann , and two others, receive special Masters invitations.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39568251/liv-golf-joaquin-niemann-3-get-masters-invitations
https://nypost.com/2024/02/22/sports/rory-mcilroys-former-agent-floats-stunning-950m-liv-golf-defection/amp/
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 22, 2024, 07:11:21 PM
https://nypost.com/2024/02/22/sports/rory-mcilroys-former-agent-floats-stunning-950m-liv-golf-defection/amp/
this is precious...lory going over to the "enemy"...would love to review his past comments vs. LIV and the guys that had already defected
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/anthony-kim-return-liv-golf-jeddah-pga-tour/amp
Top 3 players in Asian Tour Event from LIV
https://www.livgolf.com/news/carlos-ortiz-wins-international-series-oman-after-birdie-run
Great week for Wisconsin golf, the golf capital of America. Because of climate change, courses were open through Thanksgiving last year and many courses were open in February this year. With the south destined to be an inhospitable wasteland in a decade or two, Wisconsin will truly be the Golf standard for this country.
Just to prove it, America's #1 golf destination has 10 of the top 100 public courses in the country.
https://www.wisconsin.golf/courses/were-not-surprised-wisconsin-ranked-no-1-with-10-golf-courses-on-golf-digests-list/article_360c82ee-d0d1-11ee-b108-53df61321288.html
Now, a list that has the Bull on it, should have its validity questioned, still a nice shoutout. But with Sedge Valley opening we can replace the Bull with that anyway
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 25, 2024, 09:27:11 AM
Now, a list that has the Bull on it, should have its validity questioned, still a nice shoutout. But with Sedge Valley opening we can replace the Bull with that anyway
Nicklaus design and Golf Digest have mutual benefactors.
LIV signs deal with Caffeine TV
https://golf.com/news/liv-golf-surprising-new-tv-partner-hot-mic/?amp=1
From Yahoo Sports:
Jon Rahm says Tiger Woods won't answer his texts about his LIV Golf move, which he finally admitted was about the money.
Just saw the promo clip for Anthony Kim joining LIV, saying this as someone who was a big AK fan in the late 2000s...Holy HELL he looks awful. I don't mean to speculate, but it looks like he spent the last 12 years skiing, and by that I mean the only kind you can do in Dallas. His nose does not look normal
Quote from: JWags85 on February 28, 2024, 10:18:18 AM
Just saw the promo clip for Anthony Kim joining LIV, saying this as someone who was a big AK fan in the late 2000s...Holy HELL he looks awful. I don't mean to speculate, but it looks like he spent the last 12 years skiing, and by that I mean the only kind you can do in Dallas. His nose does not look normal
Never knew he took the insurance payout because he had the driver yips.
https://www.si.com/golf/2024/02/28/rory-mcilroy-responds-former-agent-liv-golf
detry's 6 putts-
this was painful to watch-ya gotta think, somewhere in there he lost his mind
https://twitter.com/i/status/1763693362907853026
probably muttering something to the effect that he'd rather find his wife in bed with another dude than 6 putt another hole
https://sports.yahoo.com/anthony-kim-posts-best-round-yet-in-return-to-pro-golf-still-finishes-dead-last-123806901.html
76-76-74. Like everything else with LIV, a clown show.
Can someone please remind me why we're supposed to care about Anthony Kim? I'll hang up and listen.
Quote from: MU82 on March 03, 2024, 09:11:15 AM
Can someone please remind me why we're supposed to care about Anthony Kim? I'll hang up and listen.
He took the easy way out and got an insurance policy for an injury that sidelined him for a decade instead of working through driver yips.
Quote from: MU82 on March 03, 2024, 09:11:15 AM
Can someone please remind me why we're supposed to care about Anthony Kim? I'll hang up and listen.
He was fun and popular 12-16 years ago. I followed his group at 2008 Ryder Cup.
Kim has had a lot of injuries and quite a few surgeries . It is an interesting comeback to Professional Golf human interest type story.
PGA Tour also wanted to bring Kim back, but didn't have a method to pay off Kims reported $ 10 million disability contract
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 03, 2024, 11:51:17 AM
He was fun and popular 12-16 years ago. I followed his group at 2008 Ryder Cup.
Kim has had a lot of injuries and quite a few surgeries . It is an interesting comeback to Professional Golf human interest type story.
PGA Tour also wanted to bring Kim back, but didn't have a method to pay off Kims reported $ 10 million disability contract
I caddied for him at that Ryder Cup
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 03, 2024, 09:16:50 AM
He took the easy way out and got an insurance policy for an injury that sidelined him for a decade instead of working through driver yips.
Yeah, that just makes me less interested in him. But if 9-9-9 and others choose to go ga-ga over this human interest story, that's cool.
Zero interest in the AK story. Found it amusing that he was AWOL for a decade and wish he had stayed that way. He had an exciting year of golf and his attitude made him star, but I did not feel cheated as a golf fan that he vanished from the tour.
My three rounds for the year are 76-76-74.
Quote from: Goose on March 03, 2024, 02:34:02 PM
Zero interest in the AK story. Found it amusing that he was AWOL for a decade and wish he had stayed that way. He had an exciting year of golf and his attitude made him star, but I did not feel cheated as a golf fan that he vanished from the tour.
I mean, he quit because he had the driver yips. Would have been a far more interesting story had he fought his way through that and made a comeback, ala Henrik Stenson.
He made his comeback in Saudi Arabia as part of a sportswashing league. Be just fine if he stayed there and looked for women in restaurants
Kim saying he is" playing like A... but encouraged" . Love the perspective.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/04/sport/anthony-kim-liv-golf-return-last-spt-intl/index.html
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 04, 2024, 06:33:15 PM
Kim saying he is" playing like A... but encouraged" . Love the perspective.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/04/sport/anthony-kim-liv-golf-return-last-spt-intl/index.html
He's garbage
Congratulations to the Butler student who jarred a 94 foot putt during one of the media timeouts at last night's game.
Padraig Harrington says he can get recreational golfers to a single digit handicap
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2024/03/07/padraig-harrington-instructional-videos-single-digit-handicap/
His stuff is pretty good, but you still have to do the work.
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 08, 2024, 05:49:09 PM
Padraig Harrington says he can get recreational golfers to a single digit handicap
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2024/03/07/padraig-harrington-instructional-videos-single-digit-handicap/
Sergio Garcia says he can get recreational golfers to disrespect the game, sponsors, fans and the course they play like him
Anthony Kim shot a 72 today. Making a little progress.
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 09, 2024, 08:44:20 PM
Anthony Kim shot a 72 today. Making a little progress.
He's garbage
Anthony Kim continues his comeback shoots a 65 today.
https://www.golfmonthly.com/news/anthony-kim-cards-brilliant-final-round-at-liv-golf-hong-kong-before-his-caddie-reportedly-makes-surprising-admission
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 10, 2024, 08:27:39 AM
Anthony Kim continues his comeback shoots a 65 today.
https://www.golfmonthly.com/news/anthony-kim-cards-brilliant-final-round-at-liv-golf-hong-kong-before-his-caddie-reportedly-makes-surprising-admission
He's garbage
More on Anthony Kim
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/signs-of-life-anthony-kim-surprises-shocking-low-round-liv-golf-hong-kong-2024
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 10, 2024, 10:33:40 AM
More on Anthony Kim
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/signs-of-life-anthony-kim-surprises-shocking-low-round-liv-golf-hong-kong-2024
He's garbage
One time European young star Matteo Manassero finally back in winners circle.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39701033/matteo-manassero-claims-first-european-tour-win-11-years
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 10, 2024, 02:17:54 PM
One time European young star Matteo Manassero finally back in winners circle.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39701033/matteo-manassero-claims-first-european-tour-win-11-years
He should have taken an insurance policy out instead of fighting his way through difficult times
https://www.golfmonthly.com/news/liv-golf-has-ended-the-players-championship-fifth-major-tag
If 9-9-9 could get Tiger, Mr Cooley and Sam to play in an excellent LIV event, he'd be the happiest dead man alive!
God bless global warming
https://www.si.com/golf/2024/03/12/pga-tour-jay-monahan-says-negotiations-liv-golf-saudi-pif-accelerating
Adam Hadwin with an epic club toss into the pond at 18.
Anthony Kim missed cut at Asian Tour Event although he did shoot 70 in second round
David Puig of LIV golf is leading adter 2 rounds . Earlier this year Puig made the British Open as a qualifier by winning an Asian Tour event. If Puig wins this event he may get his OWGR in range of making PGA Championship, US Open amd possibly Masters
Hell of a Sunday for Scottie, everyone else played scared once he came charging.
That putt on 18 for Clark, woof.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on March 17, 2024, 05:09:33 PM
Hell of a Sunday for Scottie, everyone else played scared once he came charging.
That putt on 18 for Clark, woof.
TPC Sawgrass perfect course for a shot maker like Scheffler .
The way he is playing now that he is putting decently, every course is good for him.
Quote from: tower912 on March 18, 2024, 10:18:36 AM
The way he is playing now that he is putting decently, every course is good for him.
Pretty riveting finish from what I've read. Shame they all started on 1, didn't wear shorts, didn't have music and 760 fans in attendance.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on March 17, 2024, 05:09:33 PM
Hell of a Sunday for Scottie, everyone else played scared once he came charging.
That putt on 18 for Clark, woof.
I wanted some "action" on the Sunday. Was looking at Harman and Scheffler due to odds. Thought Scottie was too far back to make a run, so i took Harman.
Whoops.
Malnati shows nice guys can win. Congratulations on a great effort.
https://www.pgatour.com/article/news/daily-wrapup/2024/03/24/peter-malnati-wins-valspar-championship-two-stroke-victory-over-cameron-young-copperhead-course-the-masters-augusta-national
Hit my first perfect shot of the year. 120 directly into a 2 club wind. Knockdown 9. Finished up 8 feet past the hole. Looking for the pitch mark to repair, found it 1 inch short of the cup, slightly impinging on the lip. Thank goodness I made the putt.
Quote from: tower912 on March 29, 2024, 10:18:46 AM
Hit my first perfect shot of the year. 120 directly into a 2 club wind. Knockdown 9. Finished up 8 feet past the hole. Looking for the pitch mark to repair, found it 1 inch short of the cup, slightly impinging on the lip. Thank goodness I made the putt.
You could probably beat half the LIV golfers
Nope. Not long enough. Driver 250, 3 wood 220 just isn't going to get it on 520 yard par 4s.
Quote from: tower912 on March 29, 2024, 10:31:55 AM
Nope. Not long enough. Driver 250, 3 wood 220 just isn't going to get it on 520 yard par 4s.
At LIV it would
Which one of you clowns was golfing in Cudahy?
You'd neva find me in Cudahy, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 02, 2024, 07:41:19 PM
You'd neva find me in Cudahy, hey?
You'd have a leg up on the competition.
Dogleg?
My boys from home (Connecticut) do a yearly golf trip. Been to Scottsdale, Vegas, Crystal Springs to name a few.
Talk this year is Sand Valley.
Curious of people's experiences/opinions on the courses and nightlife (full disclosure: most of my crew are mid to late 50s and lack any type of self awareness of their age and appeal to the opposite sex).
Quote from: tower912 on April 02, 2024, 07:34:04 PM
Which one of you clowns was golfing in Cudahy?
Not since Club Bagdad closed.
Quote from: Jables1604 on April 02, 2024, 08:08:53 PM
My boys from home (Connecticut) do a yearly golf trip. Been to Scottsdale, Vegas, Crystal Springs to name a few.
Talk this year is Sand Valley.
Curious of people's experiences/opinions on the courses and nightlife (full disclosure: most of my crew are mid to late 50s and lack any type of self awareness of their age and appeal to the opposite sex).
If you're talking a 2024 trip, you're about 13 months too late if you want to stay on-site.
Quote from: 🏀 on April 02, 2024, 10:22:39 PM
If you're talking a 2024 trip, you're about 13 months too late if you want to stay on-site.
Air BNB
Closest I've bin to Cudahy is On the Border, hey?
Quote from: Jables1604 on April 02, 2024, 11:09:25 PM
Air BNB
I've been to a couple supper clubs offsite, if you're in need of 'nightlife', probably not the place for the group
Quote from: 🏀 on April 03, 2024, 05:50:34 AM
I've been to a couple supper clubs offsite, if you're in need of 'nightlife', probably not the place for the group
Thanks for the heads up.
One member did make note of a rather humorously named "gentlemen's club" in the area.
Quote from: tower912 on April 02, 2024, 07:34:04 PM
Which one of you clowns was golfing in Cudahy?
Like 4Elder, I only hang around the right kind of people. If my turn to evangelicalism has taught me one thing, it's money, power and the right background > Cudahy.
Nobody is golfing in Wisconsin today.
JT and Bones split.
Any Scoopers going to The Masters?
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 03, 2024, 05:10:38 PM
Any Scoopers going to The Masters?
Yes, I go every year. Staying on property this year.
Didant no dey allow homeless tent city on da grounds, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 03, 2024, 07:49:59 PM
Didant no dey allow homeless tent city on da grounds, hey?
No problem, so long as they keep out the chicks.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 03, 2024, 07:49:59 PM
Didant no dey allow homeless tent city on da grounds, hey?
We don't. Many of our members are fellow evangelicals and we do everything in our power to keep the homeless as far away as possible.
Maybe some year I'll get you a dinner invite.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 03, 2024, 08:01:41 PM
No problem, so long as they keep out the chicks.
Ugh. They made us go woke. Not sure how long we can financially survive
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 03, 2024, 08:27:51 PM
Ugh. They made us go woke. Not sure how long we can financially survive
One of them is Condoleezza Rice at least.
I went last year, it was unbelievable. I had high expectations going in and the course far exceeded them. I didn't know a golf course could be in such good condition.
We went to the Monday practice round which I thought was perfect. All I cared about was seeing the course so I thought the practice round was the best way to do that. We walked the whole thing 3-4 times
Also, I recommend Luigi's in Augusta for a nice Italian dinner. After Luigi's we went to hooters to watch the national championship.
Lastly, Augusta is kind of a sh!thole
Been once - 2008. It was largely a forgettable tournament, as Trevor Immelman won, and none of the big names really ever made a run.
But Augusta National was spectacular.
I walked the entire course for four straight days, and each hole offered something interesting and beautiful. It helped that, aside from one soaker that didn't last all that long, the weather was great all weekend.
I was surprised at how hilly the course was - it was a workout walking it. I also was surprised at how inexpensive the food and soda was.
All in all, Augusta National is one of the few places in America I've ever been to that exceeded the extremely high expectations I had going in. In that respect, it would be on my personal list with the Grand Canyon, Kauai and some stretches of the Pacific Coast Highway.
Every golf fan should try to get there once in his or her life.
Quote from: swoopem on April 03, 2024, 09:02:55 PM
I went last year, it was unbelievable. I had high expectations going in and the course far exceeded them. I didn't know a golf course could be in such good condition.
We went to the Monday practice round which I thought was perfect. All I cared about was seeing the course so I thought the practice round was the best way to do that. We walked the whole thing 3-4 times
Also, I recommend Luigi's in Augusta for a nice Italian dinner. After Luigi's we went to hooters to watch the national championship.
Lastly, Augusta is kind of a sh!thole
It's why I take a helicopter onto the property. Any self-respecting person wouldn't be caught dead in Augusta proper. In fact, 50/50 you'll get murdered in the city
https://golf.com/news/anthony-kim-spoke-about-past-reveal-everything/
The camera work by NBC at ANWA has been incredible this morning. Seeing angles and shots you never see.
Yeah, this is becoming one of the best events in golf.
Quote from: swoopem on April 03, 2024, 09:02:55 PM
I went last year, it was unbelievable. I had high expectations going in and the course far exceeded them. I didn't know a golf course could be in such good condition.
We went to the Monday practice round which I thought was perfect. All I cared about was seeing the course so I thought the practice round was the best way to do that. We walked the whole thing 3-4 times
Also, I recommend Luigi's in Augusta for a nice Italian dinner. After Luigi's we went to hooters to watch the national championship.
Lastly, Augusta is kind of a sh!thole
Heading up to The Masters this year. Looking forward to some healthy walking up those Hills
Have access to Berckmans Place which will be nice way to enjoy the event.
Compelling golf at ANWA this afternoon! What a show!
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 06, 2024, 01:59:11 PM
Heading up to The Masters this year. Looking forward to some healthy walking up those Hills
Have access to Berckmans Place which will be nice way to enjoy the event.
Nice! I'll be in Butler's Cabin this year. It's Sean McManus last event and he invited a few close associates.
Done Berckman's the last few years.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 06, 2024, 02:08:02 PM
Nice! I'll be in Butler's Cabin this year. It's Sean McManus last event and he invited a few close associates.
Done Berckman's the last few years.
Chef's kiss
Sergio in lead heading into final round at LIV Event at Doral. Excellent way to get ready for Masters.
https://www.livgolf.com/leaderboard
I forgot that he could still play there. Crap.
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 06, 2024, 08:00:34 PM
Sergio in lead heading into final round at LIV Event at Doral. Excellent way to get ready for Masters.
https://www.livgolf.com/leaderboard
No, it isn't.
The contrast between LIV and ANWA is staggering. A soulless golf event favored by nitwits versus an event that showcases a great golf course and has quickly become a golfing delight.
But you like Sergio, one of the most disgraceful golfers of his generation and a despicable person. Says quite a bit, no?
Quote from: tower912 on April 06, 2024, 08:04:27 PM
I forgot that he could still play there. Crap.
Sergio always melts like the coward he is when Tiger is around, so he'll be a non-factor, just like in the golf world
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 06, 2024, 08:20:14 PM
Sergio always melts like the coward he is when Tiger is around, so he'll be a non-factor, just like in the golf world
Rico - just curious, why do you hate Sergio?
Quote from: MU1in77 on April 06, 2024, 10:47:13 PM
Rico - just curious, why do you hate Sergio?
Scene: Morgantown National GC
{Masters theme 🎼 and Country Roads 🎶 alternate in background}
Raftery/Lundquist: "Congrats Buzz/Sergio on a short handed win/putt"
Broeker/Rico while approaching the interview: "Buzz/Sergio why are they mad?"
Sergio/Buzz: "My saliva danced. It danced a jig on their hole/court. They got mad."
Broeker/Rico: 🤢 🤮
In a couple years, Buzz was flushed 💩 and Chairman Rico would delete both Gary McCord and Sergio from his GolfContacts list.
Quote from: MU1in77 on April 06, 2024, 10:47:13 PM
Rico - just curious, why do you hate Sergio?
Smashing tee boxes, smashing bunkers, smashing bunker surrounds, spitting into cups
https://youtu.be/pk4kUaJgyAw?si=AiVRkj3Ji9nAjQO2
He's a graceless loser, classless on the course with zero respect for the game. No one exemplifies the mockery of the game LIV is quite like Sergio. He's the perfect LIV poster boy.
Golf will be better when he isn't any longer a part of it
Sergio is a heel. A petulant child.
That video was cringeworthy for sure. As bad as his behavior is, his reaction to it when being interviewed and called out for it is even worse.
Quote from: GoFastAndWin on April 07, 2024, 09:11:39 AM
That video was cringeworthy for sure. As bad as his behavior is, his reaction to it when being interviewed and called out for it is even worse.
His peers don't defend him. They don't like him. He was one of the first to run to the guaranteed money from the Saudi government. He's a piece of trash.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 07, 2024, 07:48:09 AM
Smashing tee boxes, smashing bunkers, smashing bunker surrounds, spitting into cups
https://youtu.be/pk4kUaJgyAw?si=AiVRkj3Ji9nAjQO2
He's a graceless loser, classless on the course with zero respect for the game. No one exemplifies the mockery of the game LIV is quite like Sergio. He's the perfect LIV poster boy.
Wow - try not to sugar coat it next time. Guess I'll be cancelling my membership in the Sergio Fan Club.
Golf will be better when he isn't any longer a part of it
Bhatia was up 6 at the turn, shot -2 on the back nine, and had to bury a 12 footer just to force a playoff.
Incredible finish at the Valero.
Great week on the LPGA as they have The Chevron Championship, the first major of the year. Nelly going for 5 straight wins.
Would be better if the course wasn't a dump. Almost Valhalla bad
Lexi still hitting it sideways.
Nelly with a 68 to start. Good round
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 18, 2024, 06:49:25 PM
Nelly with a 68 to start. Good round
Good gracious score is bodacious
Nelly shoots -3, tied for the lead at the moment. In great shape heading into the weekend regardless.
Lottie Woad, the ANWA champ from 2 weeks ago continues her magical spring and sits -4.
Notables missing the cut include Celine Boutier, Meghan Khang, Leona Maguire, Rose Zhang and Minjee Lee.
Defending champ Lilia Vu withdrew as did Angel Yin, the runner-up from last year. Lexi and Danielle Kang don't sniff the cut line
Hoping for the exciting Sunday finish we didn't get in Augusta.
Haeran Ryu leads by 1 over Nelly and Brooke Henderson who went -8 in the 3rd round. Nelly won't be in the final group
Hataoka is only 5 back.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 21, 2024, 11:15:25 AM
Ko is only 6 back
I will be rooting for Nasa. Disappointed that Ayaka is +1.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 21, 2024, 11:24:01 AM
I will be rooting for Nasa. Disappointed that Ayaka is +1.
I'm rooting for Nelly
Nelly leaking oil, but nobody is pushing her.
Quote from: tower912 on April 21, 2024, 04:49:33 PM
Nelly leaking oil, but nobody is pushing her.
Long time waiting on 18.
That slammed the door.
W
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Her 5 step plan is pretty good.
Whoa Nelly! She's good!
15-year-old Miles Russell becomes the youngest to finish in the top 20 of a professional event, doing so in the Korn Ferry Tour's LECOM Suncoast Classic. He was making his first pro start on a sponsor's exemption.
https://theathletic.com/5433203/2024/04/21/miles-russell-15-korn-ferry-tour-golf/?source=pulsenewsletter&campaign=9606473&userId=3738391
He broke one of Tiger Woods' records last year, becoming the youngest player to be named the AJGA Player of the Year. Russell, who is from Jacksonville Beach, Fla., is a high school freshman who has also won the Junior PGA and Junior Players Championship events. He shot a 66 at TPC Sawgrass in the latter. Russell said that he began playing golf at age 2 and broke par by age 6.
Damn. I didn't break par til I was 7!
https://nypost.com/2024/04/24/sports/greg-norman-open-to-making-a-massive-liv-golf-shakeup/amp/
Rory's got a future if golf doesn't work out.
https://twitter.com/BrodyAMiller/status/1784730916977266727?source=pulsenewsletter&campaign=9694775&userId=3738391
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-adelaide-proves-fan-first-philosophy-can-work-no-matter-who-ends-up-winning?utm_medium=email&utm_source=042824&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM50756&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
Try not to hit caddies in the head with full water bottles.
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 29, 2024, 09:35:04 AM
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-adelaide-proves-fan-first-philosophy-can-work-no-matter-who-ends-up-winning?utm_medium=email&utm_source=042824&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM50756&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
No, it only proves that Aussies are dopes. The only LIV events that have generated any buzz have been in Australia.
LIV going to have their individual championship at Bolingbrook GC in suburban Chicagoland. Good course? How many scoopers have played it? Can it be made challenging enough or will it be a non-stop 59 watch?
Quote from: tower912 on April 30, 2024, 09:04:38 PM
LIV going to have their individual championship at Bolingbrook GC in suburban Chicagoland. Good course? How many scoopers have played it? Can it be made challenging enough or will it be a non-stop 59 watch?
https://x.com/skulledwedge/status/1785426730758341008?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
I see on the website it has a water fountain, so that means it's clearly a terrible golf course
Quote from: tower912 on April 30, 2024, 09:04:38 PM
LIV going to have their individual championship at Bolingbrook GC in suburban Chicagoland. Good course? How many scoopers have played it? Can it be made challenging enough or will it be a non-stop 59 watch?
Last week, I had a friend tell me that LIV was headed to Bolingbrook GC in September. I told him funny joke, however he said the news was true. I was absolutely floored. I'm not sure Bolingbrook is a even a top 15 public course in the Chicagoland area.
The course was not designed nor intended to host a professional golf tournament. I have played it a handful of times. It will be a non-stop 59 watch. There's a solid chance the winning score is 30 under even with just 54 holes.
My friend and I were discussing all the Chicago public and private courses that LIV must have been turned down from to end up at Bolingbrook. The list had to be long. Interesting that LIV only lasted two years at Rich Harvest Farms before Jerry Rich told them to hit the road.
It's not a good course. LIV should be at Bull Valley, but maybe Gary finally played hard to get.
RIP Peter Oosterhuis. Won the Order of Merit 4 times, runner-up twice at The Open. Better known in the states as an announcer. Wasn't afraid to be critical of players but always honest on the call.
Anthony Kim finally has a solid first round
https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2024/5/3/24148183/liv-golf-anthony-kim-round-proud-golf-return
hunter eichhorn finishes T-5 on Korn ferry tour
For Eichhorn, a former Marquette golfer who was co-medalist at one of the two Monday qualifiers to get into the Veritex Bank Championship on the Korn Ferry Tour in Arlington, Texas, his T-5 finish Sunday was a start.
It earned him a start in the next event on the PGA Tour's top developmental tour, in two weeks at the AdventHealth Championship in Kansas City, Mo. It also earned him a spot on the Korn Ferry Tour points list at No. 80, which adds his name to an exemption category that currently feeds the alternate list for each week's event, but could lead to stronger status with each cut made.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 03, 2024, 09:07:00 PM
hunter eichhorn finishes T-5 on Korn ferry tour
For Eichhorn, a former Marquette golfer who was co-medalist at one of the two Monday qualifiers to get into the Veritex Bank Championship on the Korn Ferry Tour in Arlington, Texas, his T-5 finish Sunday was a start.
It earned him a start in the next event on the PGA Tour's top developmental tour, in two weeks at the AdventHealth Championship in Kansas City, Mo. It also earned him a spot on the Korn Ferry Tour points list at No. 80, which adds his name to an exemption category that currently feeds the alternate list for each week's event, but could lead to stronger status with each cut made.
Excellent news for Eichorn. Rooting for continued solid performance
This is fun to watch...
https://nypost.com/2024/05/11/sports/anthony-kim-rips-talentless-fool-brandel-chamblee-in-scathing-post/amp/
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 11, 2024, 02:09:58 PM
This is fun to watch...
https://nypost.com/2024/05/11/sports/anthony-kim-rips-talentless-fool-brandel-chamblee-in-scathing-post/amp/
That's rich coming from a guy who quit the game because he got the shanks and used an injury as an excuse
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 11, 2024, 02:12:43 PM
That's rich coming from a guy who quit the game because he got the shanks and used an injury as an excuse
you are just all over the place...so many seem to crank you up. you act like it's your position to respond to everyone you dislike? why don't you put some of that evangelical bs to practice once
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 11, 2024, 08:56:14 PM
you are just all over the place...so many seem to crank you up. you act like it's your position to respond to everyone you dislike? why don't you put some of that evangelical bs to practice once
Facts don't care about your feelings.
You should try and live your life by embracing the lord and the gospel. The evangelical life is a life lived with great glory and purpose.
Rose Zhang birdies 4 of her last 5 on her way to a victory at the LPGA's Founders Cup. Shoots a 66 and earns her 2nd career victory.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 12, 2024, 06:58:54 PM
Rose Zhang birdies 4 of her last 5 on her way to a victory at the LPGA's Founders Cup. Shoots a 66 and earns her 2nd career victory.
She has superstar written all over her. The LPGA has some tremendous talent.
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 12, 2024, 07:43:59 PM
She has superstar written all over her. The LPGA has some tremendous talent.
Blows the PGA Tour and Saudi Golf out of the water
Jimmy Dunne, one of the architects of the PGA Tour's framework agreement with Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund, resigned from the Tour's policy board Monday, effective immediately. In a letter to the board that was obtained by Sports Illustrated, Dunne wrote that "no meaningful progress has been made towards a transaction with PIF," and that ever since players seized control of the board and cut him out of negotiations, "my vote and my role is utterly superfluous."
Dunne's resignation comes almost a year after PGA Tour commissioner Jay Monahan stunned the golf world with the framework agreement. Initially rolled out as a "merger," the framework agreement was actually the blueprint of a deal that would allow the Tour to determine the future of PIF-funded LIV Golf.
https://www.si.com/golf/jimmy-dunne-resigns-from-pga-tour-board?
Quote from: MU82 on May 14, 2024, 07:17:33 AM
Jimmy Dunne, one of the architects of the PGA Tour's framework agreement with Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund, resigned from the Tour's policy board Monday, effective immediately. In a letter to the board that was obtained by Sports Illustrated, Dunne wrote that "no meaningful progress has been made towards a transaction with PIF," and that ever since players seized control of the board and cut him out of negotiations, "my vote and my role is utterly superfluous."
Dunne's resignation comes almost a year after PGA Tour commissioner Jay Monahan stunned the golf world with the framework agreement. Initially rolled out as a "merger," the framework agreement was actually the blueprint of a deal that would allow the Tour to determine the future of PIF-funded LIV Golf.
https://www.si.com/golf/jimmy-dunne-resigns-from-pga-tour-board?
Men's professional golf is a dumpster fire. Arnold Palmer be a rolling round in his grave
Quote from: MU82 on May 14, 2024, 07:17:33 AM
Jimmy Dunne, one of the architects of the PGA Tour's framework agreement with Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund, resigned from the Tour's policy board Monday, effective immediately. In a letter to the board that was obtained by Sports Illustrated, Dunne wrote that "no meaningful progress has been made towards a transaction with PIF," and that ever since players seized control of the board and cut him out of negotiations, "my vote and my role is utterly superfluous."
Dunne's resignation comes almost a year after PGA Tour commissioner Jay Monahan stunned the golf world with the framework agreement. Initially rolled out as a "merger," the framework agreement was actually the blueprint of a deal that would allow the Tour to determine the future of PIF-funded LIV Golf.
https://www.si.com/golf/jimmy-dunne-resigns-from-pga-tour-board?
Mr. Dunne is a big ND guy
Jimmy Dunne: Find Me Someone Involved in 9/11 And 'I'll Kill Them Myself'
Man, I wonder what Rahm is thinking. I feel a big part of his jump was based on the thinking the tours would be merged in the near future.
71 with 29 putts. Yeah, I am bragging. Scottie was a recurring topic of discussion.
Quote from: tower912 on May 17, 2024, 11:54:46 AM
71 with 29 putts. Yeah, I am bragging. Scottie was a recurring topic of discussion.
Real 71 or a Trump 71?
Rico 71.
Home course, first twosome out, walking, hitting, 3 hours, partner keeping the score.
Quote from: tower912 on May 17, 2024, 05:13:18 PM
Home course, first twosome out, walking, hitting, 3 hours, partner keeping the score.
Best time to play and walk. Love that early morning walk on a golf course
Many disagree because a lot of courses are hard to walk, but we need to ban carts and #shrinkthegame
10+ courses in the metro area have closed in the last 15 years. The ones that have stayed open are currently getting rich.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 17, 2024, 07:35:00 PM
So played on a dump.
I don't think he played any of The Legends
https://twitter.com/MillerHHunter/status/1791464718621868452?t=7bqugxx8k9LJQ_80J_s7bg&s=19
My home course is an off the beaten track beast that some people won't play because it is tough and others won't return to because the owner can be salty with drunken fools and doesn't believe the customer is always right.
7000+, 145 from the tips.
6600, 141 from the blue tees (my tees since I tuned 50.)
https://course.bluegolf.com/bluegolf/course/course/cedarchasegc/detailedscorecard.htm
Quote from: tower912 on May 17, 2024, 08:48:59 PM
My home course is an off the beaten track beast that some people won't play because it is tough and others won't return to because the owner can be salty with drunken fools and doesn't believe the customer is always right.
7000+, 145 from the tips.
6600, 141 from the blue tees (my tees since I tuned 50.)
https://course.bluegolf.com/bluegolf/course/course/cedarchasegc/detailedscorecard.htm
Tower
Not belittling your accomplishments on the links, well aware that you are a great player. But "tough" doesn't make it a non dump in our expert's eyes. Quail Hollow, for example is a very difficult track and a regular stop on the tour but is nonetheless a dump, so there you go.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 17, 2024, 05:15:50 PM
Best time to play and walk. Love that early morning walk on a golf course
Many disagree because a lot of courses are hard to walk, but we need to ban carts and #shrinkthegame
Sounds like the musings of a turn back the clock reactionary.
Lenny, Rico thrives on yanking your chain. And I consider myself a hack.
Quote from: tower912 on May 18, 2024, 06:15:12 AM
Lenny, Rico thrives on yanking your chain.
Tower
Wrong. Rico used to thrive with occasional but creative and genuinely funny stuff. I looked forward to reading his musings. Every once in a while we see a glimpse of that guy but mostly he's just a broken record now. Same old stuff, over and over and over again. Once bright has turned boring. He doesn't yank my chain at all - he yanks his own.
Lenny, not to put too fine a point on it, but many here, including you, have fallen into ruts and are no longer as interesting as they used to be. Familiarity breeding contempt. People changing and no longer having the same joy they used to. I read certain posters and decide it is easier to put them on ignore than engage in the same argument for the nth time.
Maybe it is the nature of a relatively insular message board. Maybe it is life. I don't know.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 17, 2024, 10:16:06 PM
Sounds like the musings of a turn back the clock reactionary.
100%
Hopeless golf romantic stuck in the world of High Noon drinking blowhards
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 18, 2024, 07:14:38 AM
Tower
Wrong. Rico used to thrive with occasional but creative and genuinely funny stuff. I looked forward to reading his musings. Every once in a while we see a glimpse of that guy but mostly he's just a broken record now. Same old stuff, over and over and over again. Once bright has turned boring. He doesn't yank my chain at all - he yanks his own.
7.5 out of 10
Shot a 98 at Whitnall National last week and I'm very happy. Second round in over 2 years due to knee problems. I'm 68, my short game sucks and will use a driver on a 200 yard par 3 and still come up short. But I play fast, have fun and enjoy the game.
Playing fast and laughing? I want you in my group.
Another weekend, another win for Nelly. Absolutely amazing stuff out of her the moment
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 19, 2024, 05:12:28 PM
Another weekend, another win for Nelly. Absolutely amazing stuff out of her the moment
I like athletes that relentlessly attack with fury and slam the door. :)
Sergio fails to qualify for the US Open. A disastrous and Sergio-like choke 73 in the second round this afternoon doomed him to the world of alternates. Kudos, though, for attempting to qualify unlike the best iron player of the last 20 years.
Patrick Reed WD from qualifying and will not be playing.
Sergio was odd man out in a 7 for 6 playoff.
Rory has a lot going on
https://nypost.com/2024/05/22/sports/rory-mcilroy-amanda-balionis-romance-rumors-after-golfers-divorce/amp/
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/rory-mcilroy-hard-person-to-be-married-to-wife-reached-breaking-point-divorce-report
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 22, 2024, 10:41:23 AM
Rory has a lot going on
https://nypost.com/2024/05/22/sports/rory-mcilroy-amanda-balionis-romance-rumors-after-golfers-divorce/amp/
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/rory-mcilroy-hard-person-to-be-married-to-wife-reached-breaking-point-divorce-report
So many rumors. The lastest is his wife had an affair with her ju jitsu instructor
Meh. Scoopers, any great golf stories from you? New destinations? Great shots? New clubs that really make a difference?
I moved on from my Vokey SM6's, as the grooves were wearing out. Replaced them with Clevelands. 52 degree CBX, 56 degree RTX. I recommend them. CBX is very forgiving. Point and shoot. I can feel the soles glide through the turf compared to the SM6s.
Chicagoans, a short drive over to Harbor Shores. Senior PGA. Probably the last time it will be held there.
tower
Nothing exciting, but playing my first round on Saturday. I am looking forward to starting what I believe is my 55th year of playing golf.
just finished our 3 day-4 round legend challenge over the past weekend. the best may weekend we've had since I can remember. one team of 12 from each of the 4 clubs in a modified Ryder cup style competition. the most fun a group of guys can have (thankfully) with their clothes on.
all 4 courses are in incredible shape with Merrill getting ready for the wsga state amateur championship in July. the rough is becoming tougher and jack will have the greens running at no less than a 14-15 stimp...no chit to that as he does this for most big events including ours. I've watched them check this myself with the ole stimpmeter
of the 4 courses, bergamont, an Andy North design, public/private course I believe one can golf for around $100, is an absolute bargain.
ok reeeeeeko, yes, these are all dumps so please don't bother
Rocket
Where is Bergamont? I have never heard of it.
Quote from: Goose on May 23, 2024, 08:38:47 AM
Rocket
Where is Bergamont? I have never heard of it.
Oregon, WI
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 23, 2024, 04:53:28 AM
just finished our 3 day-4 round legend challenge over the past weekend. the best may weekend we've had since I can remember. one team of 12 from each of the 4 clubs in a modified Ryder cup style competition. the most fun a group of guys can have (thankfully) with their clothes on.
all 4 courses are in incredible shape with Merrill getting ready for the wsga state amateur championship in July. the rough is becoming tougher and jack will have the greens running at no less than a 14-15 stimp...no chit to that as he does this for most big events including ours. I've watched them check this myself with the ole stimpmeter
of the 4 courses, bergamont, an Andy North design, public/private course I believe one can golf for around $100, is an absolute bargain.
ok reeeeeeko, yes, these are all dumps so please don't bother
How often are you doing things (whether more fun than golfing or not) with a group of guys without your clothes on?
Quote from: wadesworld on May 23, 2024, 09:46:15 AM
How often are you doing things (whether more fun than golfing or not) with a group of guys without your clothes on?
Is this a question you really want an answer to?
Quote from: cheebs09 on May 23, 2024, 10:18:11 AM
Is this a question you really want an answer to?
Just how often. Not what the fun is or any details.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 23, 2024, 04:53:28 AM
just finished our 3 day-4 round legend challenge over the past weekend. the best may weekend we've had since I can remember. one team of 12 from each of the 4 clubs in a modified Ryder cup style competition. the most fun a group of guys can have (thankfully) with their clothes on.
all 4 courses are in incredible shape with Merrill getting ready for the wsga state amateur championship in July. the rough is becoming tougher and jack will have the greens running at no less than a 14-15 stimp...no chit to that as he does this for most big events including ours. I've watched them check this myself with the ole stimpmeter
of the 4 courses, bergamont, an Andy North design, public/private course I believe one can golf for around $100, is an absolute bargain.
ok reeeeeeko, yes, these are all dumps so please don't bother
I hope you don't pay actual money to play those dumps
I love that one Legends commercial brags about everyone 4-putting the 18th. That's not something to brag about. That's a bad green if that keeps happening.
The Legends are fine for people who can't get into good exclusive clubs.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 23, 2024, 11:25:58 AM
I hope you don't pay actual money to play those dumps
I love that one Legends commercial brags about everyone 4-putting the 18th. That's not something to brag about. That's a bad green if that keeps happening.
The Legends are fine for people who can't get into good exclusive clubs.
there's the reeko we all know and... was starting to get worried. finishing your 9 hole round at warnimont? i'll bet you had all your peeps just rolling on the floor gasping for air laughing
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 23, 2024, 11:31:12 AM
there's the reeko we all know and... was starting to get worried. finishing your 9 hole round at warnimont? i'll bet you had all your peeps just rolling on the floor gasping for air laughing
Haven't played Warnimont in years. Great beginners course for old and young alike. Better class of people than you'd find at The Legends, too.
After latest news, I stand by my claim that the whole Scheffler thing will quietly disappear.
The cop violated the rules and lied on his report.
Quote from: Jockey on May 23, 2024, 12:59:32 PM
After latest news, I stand by my claim that the whole Scheffler thing will quietly disappear.
The cop violated the rules and lied on his report.
This cop?
https://x.com/jasonrileywdrb/status/1793732746332020985?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
#backtheblue
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 23, 2024, 03:29:01 PM
This cop?
https://x.com/jasonrileywdrb/status/1793732746332020985?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
#backtheblue
Hey, the militias need these cops. How else will they recruit new members?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 23, 2024, 03:29:01 PM
This cop?
https://x.com/jasonrileywdrb/status/1793732746332020985?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
#backtheblue
Whats wrong with doing donuts with an intoxicated passenger?
Quote from: lawdog77 on May 23, 2024, 03:56:44 PM
Whats wrong with doing donuts with an intoxicated passenger?
He who is without sin should cast the first stone.
Quote from: lawdog77 on May 23, 2024, 03:56:44 PM
Whats wrong with doing donuts with an intoxicated passenger?
Nothing a towel can't clean up
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 23, 2024, 03:29:01 PM
This cop?
https://x.com/jasonrileywdrb/status/1793732746332020985?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
#backtheblue
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The sad thing is that we all joke about this.
No one is even a bit surprised when cops act this way.
Quote from: Jockey on May 23, 2024, 04:12:15 PM
The sad thing is that we all joke about this.
No one is even a bit surprised when cops act this way.
Every vocation has its bad apples. Except message board moderators.
I'm no scientist but perhaps it was in LPD's best interest to quietly drop the charges.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on May 23, 2024, 04:25:41 PM
I'm no scientist but perhaps it was in LPD's best interest to quietly drop the charges.
It will be dropped right before Schefflers attorney files a civil suit
Quote from: lawdog77 on May 23, 2024, 04:22:29 PM
Every vocation has its bad apples. Except message board moderators.
I'd say the Louisville PD is overrun with bad apples. Might be time for replanting
Quote from: lawdog77 on May 23, 2024, 04:22:29 PM
Every vocation has its bad apples. Except message board moderators.
boot licker!
Grayson Murray, RIP.
Quote from: tower912 on May 25, 2024, 03:21:20 PM
Grayson Murray, RIP.
Sad situation
https://nypost.com/2024/05/25/sports/grayson-murray-two-time-pga-tour-winner-dead-at-30/amp/
The struggle with mental health is real. I wasn't a fan but his post-Sony speech (just saw it yesterday) was revealing. Guy had fought a lot of demons, between depression and alcohol. The combination is awful. It's a daily battle and not something that ever just disappears.
When you see a family member or friend struggling from these very real issues of depression, be understanding and kind and check up on them.
https://nypost.com/2024/05/26/sports/grayson-murrays-parents-reveal-he-died-by-suicide/
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 26, 2024, 08:51:58 AM
The struggle with mental health is real. I wasn't a fan but his post-Sony speech (just saw it yesterday) was revealing. Guy had fought a lot of demons, between depression and alcohol. The combination is awful. It's a daily battle and not something that ever just disappears.
When you see a family member or friend struggling from these very real issues of depression, be understanding and kind and check up on them.
putting the daggers aside for a moment-
one of the most sensitive and accurate statements you've ever made here on scoop! bravo! and I mean this sincerely uncle Rico!
I have had too many situations such as this and they are as destructive on the loved ones left behind except they have to live thru them, trying to make sense out of them and then carry on. when children are involved-no words
Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 26, 2024, 01:58:37 PM
putting the daggers aside for a moment-
one of the most sensitive and accurate statements you've ever made here on scoop! bravo! and I mean this sincerely uncle Rico!
I have had too many situations such as this and they are as destructive on the loved ones left behind except they have to live thru them, trying to make sense out of them and then carry on. when children are involved-no words
👍🏻
US Women's Open is being held this week at Lancaster Country Club. They hosted the Open in 2015. The course was designed by William Flynn, who also designed Shinnecock, Cherry Hills and Merion. He also redesigned The Country Club at Brookline.
Should be a fun week on a classic course. Nelly Korda is the overwhelming favorite.
Grayson purged all pictures of his fiancé from Instagram. According to media reports, the two of them were supposed to get married on April 27 and it obviously didn't happen. Seems like per comments from Grayson she was a big part of helping him deal with his various demons. Parents did not mention her in their statement as among those who loved Grayson. So wondering if this was a heart break situation compounded by all the other things. Everything about this is sad.
Just an awful story.
Lexi announces her retirement, effective the end of this US Open. Boomers will now have to ogle another young American golfer.
Made the US Open at age of 12 and before Lydia Ko, was the youngest ever winner on the LPGA.
11 career LPGA wins, including the 2014 Kraft Nabisco. Often in contention at majors, her putting was often a horror show. Hadn't won since 2014.
Probably the most overrated golfer on the ladies circuit of the last 15 years. She never ascended to number one in the world, getting as high as number 4. Loose with the rules, too.
Struggled with self image due to body shaming. I hope she can find peace and happiness.
rocket
The Grayson situation really is a terrible thing. Mental illness is real, and we all have to watch out for each other and keep an eye open for warning signs. Too many people hide their depression, but it looks like he had a very strong family around him. Obviously as Herm mentioned, there may things that we will never know which caused this to happen. Prayers to his family.
Quote from: tower912 on May 28, 2024, 11:13:01 AM
Struggled with self image due to body shaming. I hope she can find peace and happiness.
Yup. She had to take time off, in 2019, I believe. Female athletes have to deal with this across all sports. Too often, appearance is more important than accomplishment.
Lexi Thompson retiring
https://nypost.com/2024/05/28/sports/lexi-thompson-abruptly-retiring-from-lpga-at-29-years-old/amp/
Thanks. Was unaware of it.
Quote from: tower912 on May 28, 2024, 12:18:27 PM
Thanks. Was unaware of it.
Ignore user feature obfuscates certain posts....
A fascinating juxtaposition between this and the current article on golf digest about what Nellie owes to the sport.
Quote from: tower912 on May 28, 2024, 12:23:57 PM
A fascinating juxtaposition between this and the current article on golf digest about what Nellie owes to the sport.
Nelly doesn't owe the sport anything, however, I can see why the LPGA would probably like her to be more engaging with media. Her play has certainly spoken for itself this year. The LPGA would love to capitalize on that but needs her help in doing so.
Golf has always been an insular sport. I think back to Shane Ryan's "Slaying The Tiger" book when he highlighted the up and coming players of the post-Tiger era in 2014. What he got from players and their reps was golf speak, corporate jargon and platitudes for the most part. They were vanilla. Rickie Fowler was the "X-sports" athlete of the tour and gave nothing.
These players are insulated by their agents to the point that access is nil. If you're lucky, you get thoughtful players like Spieth, Tiger, Rory, Rahm and Brooks or obnoxious players like FIGJAM and Sergio or bizarro players like Bryson. Either way, none of them are very approachable outside pressers which limits getting to really know them.
That's why it's laughable when Saudi golfers talk about "growing the game"
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 28, 2024, 11:36:00 AM
Yup. She had to take time off, in 2019, I believe. Female athletes have to deal with this across all sports. Too often, appearance is more important than accomplishment.
Caitlin Clark is only mediocre on the court, but she's such a beauty she fills arenas everywhere.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 28, 2024, 01:16:39 PM
Caitlin Clark is only mediocre on the court, but she's such a beauty she fills arenas everywhere.
"Too often"
Quote from: tower912 on May 28, 2024, 12:23:57 PM
A fascinating juxtaposition between this and the current article on golf digest about what Nellie owes to the sport.
Lexi=LPGA version of Sergio. Was a Youthful star, who could swing the club extremely well with enough talent to win a major. However ,can't consistently putt, chokes in big moments and has personality issues thrown in.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 28, 2024, 01:22:30 PM
"Too often"
Well, one time is "too often" so I guess - but I can't think of any unworthy female athletes getting kudos just because of their looks. The ones I see in the limelight (Clark, Brittany Griner, Nellie Korda, etc.) are celebrated because of their accomplishments and not their appearance.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 28, 2024, 02:47:23 PM
Well, one time is "too often" so I guess - but I can't think of any unworthy female athletes getting kudos just because of their looks. The ones I see in the limelight (Clark, Brittany Griner, Nellie Korda, etc.) are celebrated because of their accomplishments and not their appearance.
You cannot think of a single female athlete who gets propped up more because they are attractive? Seriously?
I'm guessing you don't believe the studies that show more attractive people (regardless of sex) have easier times finding jobs, getting media attention when needed (see: media coverage of Gabby Petito going missing vs. the many missing indigenous women), etc.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 28, 2024, 02:47:23 PM
Well, one time is "too often" so I guess - but I can't think of any unworthy female athletes getting kudos just because of their looks. The ones I see in the limelight (Clark, Brittany Griner, Nellie Korda, etc.) are celebrated because of their accomplishments and not their appearance.
Anna Kournikova on line 1
Quote from: lawdog77 on May 28, 2024, 04:06:05 PM
Anna Kournikova on line 1
More than 2 decades ago calling on line 2. She was a star very young, reached #8 singles and #1 doubles at 18, then injuries came. Was her modeling career aided by her tennis fame? I suppose, but I'd wager she held her own in that regard.
Quote from: withoutbias on May 28, 2024, 03:13:45 PM
You cannot think of a single female athlete who gets propped up more because they are attractive? Seriously?
I'm guessing you don't believe the studies that show more attractive people (regardless of sex) have easier times finding jobs, getting media attention when needed (see: media coverage of Gabby Petito going missing vs. the many missing indigenous women), etc.
WTF? Gabby Petito was a professional athlete? As usual you're off topic.
But, yes, physically attractive people have a leg up on life. So do really smart people, athletically gifted folks, people born to wealthy parents and to two parent households. By all means rage against the unfairness of it all if it makes you feel better - but it's pretty much a waste of time.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 28, 2024, 04:16:21 PM
More than 2 decades ago calling on line 2. She was a star very young, reached #8 singles and #1 doubles at 18, then injuries came. Was her modeling career aided by her tennis fame? I suppose, but I'd wager she held her own in that regard.
Livvy Dunne.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 28, 2024, 04:38:09 PM
Livvy Dunne.
Cavinder sisters as well. There are a large number
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 28, 2024, 04:16:21 PM
More than 2 decades ago calling on line 2. She was a star very young, reached #8 singles and #1 doubles at 18, then injuries came. Was her modeling career aided by her tennis fame? I suppose, but I'd wager she held her own in that regard.
How many singles titles did she win?
Danika Patrick. Paige Spiranac. Maria Sharapova. Anna Kournikova.
There's plenty of examples.
Quote from: withoutbias on May 28, 2024, 08:09:54 PM
Danika Patrick. Paige Spiranac. Maria Sharapova. Anna Kournikova.
There's plenty of examples.
1.How many ordinary looking female professional race car drivers did Danica Patrick steal thunder from?
2. Paige Spiranic was never even an LPGA tour player. She's famous as an influencer like the Kardashians.
3. Maria Sharapova was the #1 player in the world.
4. Anna Kournikova was the #8 singles player and the #1 doubles player in the world at 19. And it was 25 years ago.
"Too often"? Bit of a stretch.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 28, 2024, 10:22:43 PM
1.How many ordinary looking female professional race car drivers did Danica Patrick steal thunder from?
2. Paige Spiranic was never even an LPGA tour player. She's famous as an influencer like the Kardashians.
3. Maria Sharapova was the #1 player in the world.
4. Anna Kournikova was the #8 singles player and the #1 doubles player in the world at 19. And it was 25 years ago.
"Too often"? Bit of a stretch.
There have been tons of female professional racecar drivers that have received far less attention than Danica Patrick. The fact that you can't come up with any goes to prove the point.
There have been a ton of female tennis players who have been ranked #1 for longer yet have nowhere near the popularity of those two.
It happens quite often. Check out what female college athletes get the most NIL. Livvy Dunne has the highest NIL valuation of any female athlete. Yes, she's very good at gymnastics. But what she has done for gymnastics isn't even remotely on the same planet as what Caitlin Clark did for women's basketball. The Cavinder twins had a higher NIL valuation than Caitlin Clark.
It happens all the time. It happens in all walks of life.
Quote from: withoutbias on May 29, 2024, 10:42:39 AM
There have been tons of female professional racecar drivers that have received far less attention than Danica Patrick. The fact that you can't come up with any goes to prove the point.
There have been a ton of female tennis players who have been ranked #1 for longer yet have nowhere near the popularity of those two.
It happens quite often. Check out what female college athletes get the most NIL. Livvy Dunne has the highest NIL valuation of any female athlete. Yes, she's very good at gymnastics. But what she has done for gymnastics isn't even remotely on the same planet as what Caitlin Clark did for women's basketball. The Cavinder twins had a higher NIL valuation than Caitlin Clark.
It happens all the time. It happens in all walks of life.
Danica is not the best example to prove the point You are trying to make. Danica was actually the greatest female driver in history. Challenging to win at every race. The others of note such as Janet Guthrie, Lynn St James and various Nascar female drivers were good enough to make the races but for the most part were not contenders to win.
Golf ,which is what this thread is about, has some better example. Laura Baugh back in the day got a lot of attention for her looks rather than talent . Natalie Gulbis was a legitimate LPGA player, who Won one tournament and competed well. However she received far more attention than the dominant players of her Era , constantly in glamorous photo shoots
Quote from: withoutbias on May 29, 2024, 10:42:39 AM
There have been tons of female professional racecar drivers that have received far less attention than Danica Patrick. The fact that you can't come up with any goes to prove the point.
Any of those "tons" (lol) lead the Indy 500 with 10 laps to go?
As far as whether top female gymnasts get more NIL than top female basketball players - I don't know if that's a fact or not but it's comparing apples to oranges beside the point meaningless to the discussion anyway.
You've piled up "tons" of losses on this board. Take another L go back in your hole.
Won a bet from the owner at the aforementioned home course. I showed up at 8 and there was a big outing scheduled to go off shotgun at 9:45. I told him with a cart I could be done in 90 minutes. He was skeptical, but let me go. He tracked me via GPS. 18 holes, no impediments, 85 minutes.
$5 richer, but I have bragging rights.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 29, 2024, 12:37:20 PM
Any of those "tons" (lol) lead the Indy 500 with 10 laps to go?
As far as whether top female gymnasts get more NIL than top female basketball players - I don't know if that's a fact or not but it's comparing apples to oranges beside the point meaningless to the discussion anyway.
You've piled up "tons" of losses on this board. Take another L go back in your hole.
https://us.motorsport.com/general/news/top-10-female-racers-all-time/10584782/
I'm guessing motorsports.com has a better idea of who was a better female race car driver than Lennys Tap does.
Sh!t nevermind. Lenny's Tap is all knowing.
Guy admits he has no idea if what he's saying is accurate or not, but knows he's right. Lol. Such a classic.
You're digging your head further and further into the sand if you don't think attractive female athletes get more attention and propped up more than female athletes who aren't as attractive. Which is no surprise. You're head's in the sand in just about every subject discussed here.
I think two things are true...
1. There have been obvious circumstances where attractive female athletes received undue attention. Kournikova is a great example. Sure she was the #8 singles player in the world, but never won a singles title at any professional event. I'm sure there are dozens of players with similar records who we have never heard of.
2. To the credit of sports media, they have gotten way better at this over the past couple of decades. Frankly I think ESPN deserves a ton of credit for how they talk about and how they cover female sports and female athletes. TBH, if we went back in time, I think we would be shocked at the differences - the words used, the images used, etc.
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 29, 2024, 11:35:51 AM
Danica is not the best example to prove the point You are trying to make. Danica was actually the greatest female driver in history. Challenging to win at every race. The others of note such as Janet Guthrie, Lynn St James and various Nascar female drivers were good enough to make the races but for the most part were not contenders to win.
Challenging to win at every race? Wut?
In 116 IndyCar races, she had one win and seven top 3 finishes.
In 61 NASCAR races, she had zero wins and seven top 10 finishes.
Quote from: withoutbias on May 29, 2024, 01:54:52 PM
Sh!t nevermind. Lenny's Tap is all knowing.
I'm a long way from knowing everything but you're right next door to knowing nothing.
Lenny
Thanks for the laugh. Cut right to the bone and spot on.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 29, 2024, 02:47:52 PM
Challenging to win at every race? Wut?
In 116 IndyCar races, she had one win and seven top 3 finishes.
In 61 NASCAR races, she had zero wins and seven top 10 finishes.
While driving for some of the best teams. Many close to Indycar thought Sarah Fisher was a much better driver.
Kournikova waa pretty much worshipped in the same way pop stars and A-listers are back in the day. I think she made like 25 mill in endorsements. I do remember Hingis and others being extremely jealous but eventually they appreciated her. Mainly because she wasn't a jagoff about her off the court success and was very complimentary of the top players.
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 29, 2024, 07:34:48 PM
Kournikova waa pretty much worshipped in the same way pop stars and A-listers are back in the day. I think she made like 25 mill in endorsements. I do remember Hingis and others being extremely jealous of her but eventually they appreciated her because she wasn't a jagoff about her off the court success.
Herm jerked off to her a lot
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 29, 2024, 07:34:48 PM
Kournikova waa pretty much worshipped in the same way pop stars and A-listers are back in the day. I think she made like 25 mill in endorsements. I do remember Hingis and others being extremely jealous but eventually they appreciated her. Mainly because she wasn't a jagoff about her off the court success and was very complimentary of the top players.
And she actually liked playing tennis. She won a couple Australian Opens with Hingis as her doubles partner.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 29, 2024, 07:53:39 PM
And she actually liked playing tennis. She won a couple Australian Opens with Hingis as her doubles partner.
Good point. I guess I was a little off. She apparently made about 45m in endorsements. That's incredible when you consider that was like 20-25 yrs ago.
Quote from: MuggsyB on May 29, 2024, 09:19:31 PM
Good point. I guess I was a little off. She apparently made about 45m in endorsements. That's incredible when you consider that was like 20-25 yrs ago.
I think that actually proves the point that her primary feature was her looks, no?
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on May 30, 2024, 07:09:18 AM
I think that actually proves the point that her primary feature was her looks, no?
Undoubtedly. Lennys isn't wrong that this happened a lot more in the past than it does now.
And body image problems aren't necessarily rooted in how others, including the media, talk about you.
I think kornikova isn't the best example here.
Besides being a tennis player, she also had a modeling career. By definition, that is all about your looks.
The bigger problem is that so many woman are objectified in the media even when not trying to garner attention for their physical appearance.
Quote from: Jockey on May 30, 2024, 09:25:26 AM
I think kornikova isn't the best example here.
Besides being a tennis player, she also had a modeling career. By definition, that is all about your looks.
The bigger problem is that so many woman are objectified in the media even when not trying to garner attention for their physical appearance.
If only the big, bad media would stop force-feeding the public with attractive people they totally don't want to look at.
https://x.com/lachtalk/status/1799143013102256443?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Scottie Scheffler is golfing this weekend instead of being locked up. Disgusting
If you're a golfer and want some nightmare fuel, watch Sebastian Soderberg channel his inner Greg Norman on the 18th hole at the Scandinavian Open
Just finished an interesting book - Rainmaker by Hughes Norton. He was the first IMG agent for both Norman & Woods and was also fired by both of them. When discussing Norman and LIV he did note that if the Majors were only 54 holes, like LIV, Norman would have 7 Major Championships instead of only 2.
Quote from: MU1in77 on June 09, 2024, 12:37:12 PM
Just finished an interesting book - Rainmaker by Hughes Norton. He was the first IMG agent for both Norman & Woods and was also fired by both of them. When discussing Norman and LIV he did note that if the Majors were only 54 holes, like LIV, Norman would have 7 Major Championships instead of only 2.
Yeah, Norman is a choker
Quote from: MU1in77 on June 09, 2024, 12:37:12 PM
Just finished an interesting book - Rainmaker by Hughes Norton. He was the first IMG agent for both Norman & Woods and was also fired by both of them. When discussing Norman and LIV he did note that if the Majors were only 54 holes, like LIV, Norman would have 7 Major Championships instead of only 2.
Not necessarily. Had he known any of those tournaments was 54 holes, he'd simply have started choking earlier.
Nellie off to a disastrous start again.
Lilia Vu wins LPGA Meijier in first start back from injury:
Came from way off the pace. Won on the third hole of the playoff. Good crowd for LPGA. Meijer throws a really good party. Cheap concessions. Play areas for the kids.
I hope Charlie Woods really loves golf and is playing because of that love for the game.
I hope Charlie celebrated with Bryson and Eric Trump!!!
Quote from: Goose on June 20, 2024, 09:36:22 AM
I hope Charlie celebrated with Bryson and Eric Trump!!!
He might have. Tiger and Bryson have a pretty good relationship
Quote from: Goose on June 20, 2024, 09:36:22 AM
I hope Charlie celebrated with Bryson and Eric Trump!!!
Did Bryson and Trump go to Epstein Island or something?
Nelly leading early at KPMG PGA Championship.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 20, 2024, 03:56:24 PM
Nelly leading early at KPMG PGA Championship.
I see Ayaka is only 2 shots back.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 20, 2024, 04:19:09 PM
I see Ayaka is only 2 shots back.
I don't like her because of Pearl Harbor
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 20, 2024, 04:21:17 PM
I don't like her because of Pearl Harbor
Stop disparaging diminutive people of the world. And she's 4'11 btw, I stood right next to her. Tremendous athlete with a picture perfect swing.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 20, 2024, 05:12:35 PM
Stop disparaging diminutive people of the world. And she's 4'11 btw, I stood right next to her. Tremendous athlete with a picture perfect swing.
I don't care if she's 8' tall. #NeverAgain
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 20, 2024, 05:21:59 PM
I don't care if she's 8' tall. #NeverAgain
She's a tremendous young lady. And inspirational. You should be ashamed of yourself. I belive Ayaka will win some Majors in due time.
How.many golf balls would you lose playing Sa-alley?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 20, 2024, 03:56:24 PM
Nelly leading early at KPMG PGA Championship.
Pimpin' in his Air Force ones, hey?
Quote from: tower912 on June 21, 2024, 06:12:11 AM
How.many golf balls would you lose playing Sa-alley?
Zero. I'd fire my caddie if he lost any
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 21, 2024, 07:26:02 AM
Zero. I'd fire my caddie if he lost any
It would be his job to surreptitiously drop a ball in a convenient location to be found with a good lie and a good angle?
Quote from: tower912 on June 21, 2024, 07:41:50 AM
It would be his job to surreptitiously drop a ball in a convenient location to be found with a good lie and a good angle?
No, I don't cheat unlike some presidential candidates. Golf is a game of honor. Anyone that cheats at golf like Brooks Koepka and Patrick Reed are a disgrace to the game and bad people. It's an automatic qualifier that golf cheats are bad human beings
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 21, 2024, 07:46:52 AM
No, I don't cheat unlike some presidential candidates.
Hey, you're talking about the club champion and course record-holder at a dozen or more country clubs. Show some respect!
Quote from: MU82 on June 21, 2024, 11:41:02 AM
Hey, you're talking about the club champion and course record-holder at a dozen or more country clubs. Show some respect!
leave "Pele" alone. He's no Kim Jong-Il when it comes to golfing.
Holy Hell. Nelly is +7 through 11 today.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 21, 2024, 06:39:40 PM
Holy Hell. Nelly is +7 through 11 today.
That was a collapse. Wow
An article is written about Nelly, what she owes women's golf, how overprotective her family is, how it is in her nature to be shy, that she could be Caitlin Clark....and her game goes in the tank. Hopefully, this is just a pothole.
Quote from: tower912 on June 22, 2024, 10:25:42 AM
An article is written about Nelly, what she owes women's golf, how overprotective her family is, how it is in her nature to be shy, that she could be Caitlin Clark....and her game goes in the tank. Hopefully, this is just a pothole.
Her score absolutely shocked me Tower after a strong 1st round.
Based on recent form, I was more surprised by her first round score.
A lot of danger on this course. Maybe some one goes low today?
Charley Hull with a complete lack of focus on 17. That can't happen on a very straightforward Par 3. 6, Triple B, no longer in contention.
Yes, golfers are human.
Quote from: tower912 on June 22, 2024, 06:04:44 PM
Yes, golfers are human.
Tower, you would have put it about 20 ft and just miss the birdie low left.
Vu with a major move. But Yang looks like she's on cruise control.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 22, 2024, 06:14:40 PM
Tower, you would have put it about 20 ft and just miss the birdie low left.
Muggsy, I could have just as easy cold topped it. Golfers are human. Golf is a game of managing and minimizing misses. The fewest mistakes usually does well. Ms. Hull had a bad hole.
Quote from: tower912 on June 22, 2024, 06:19:25 PM
Muggsy, I could have just as easy cold topped it. Golfers are human. Golf is a game of managing and minimizing misses. The fewest mistakes usually does well. Ms. Hull had a bad hole.
You're kinder than I am. That was a meltdown. The water wasn't even in play for the rest of the field. I think she hit that about 100 yards with a 7i. You simply can't go from -4 to E the last two holes.
Yes, I am.
Leona M
Maguire hit into the water though it was 35 yards short of the hole. Oops.
How many shots do you hit in a round that are exactly what you pictured?
Quote from: tower912 on June 22, 2024, 06:36:25 PM
Yes, I am.
Leona M
Maguire hit into the water though it was 35 yards short of the hole. Oops.
How many shots do you hit in a round that are exactly what you pictured?
I'm not a top pro but I probably miss 4-5 shots a round.
Miyu Y has a lot of grit.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 22, 2024, 06:45:03 PM
I'm not a top pro but I probably miss 4-5 shots a round.
Most pros only hit a few 'pure' shots a round. The one that come off the club face exactly how they want. But they know how to minimize their misses and get up and down from everywhere.
Quote from: tower912 on June 22, 2024, 06:50:47 PM
Most pros only hit a few 'pure' shots a round. The one that come off the club face exactly how they want. But they know how to minimize their misses and get up and down from everywhere.
If you're talking 100% pure? Then I miss many shots per round.
I miss most of my shots. 3-4 a round that are exactly what I want. And of those, often those are recovery shots after lousy swings.
Quote from: tower912 on June 22, 2024, 07:00:49 PM
I miss most of my shots. 3-4 a round that are exactly what I want. And of those, often those are recovery shots after lousy swings.
I can't hit my fade with enough pop and struggle getting enough height with my long irons. I feel pretty comfortable with my short game and ripping my low draw to keep the ball in play. But I still can't figure our how Woosy hit the ball so far. :(
We already know you have trouble getting enough height Muggs.
Yang is in complete control. Beautiful tempo in her swing. She will be very tough to catch.
A slightly different person tomorrow, a slightly different swing. Today, she looks entirely in charge.
Quote from: tower912 on June 22, 2024, 07:16:34 PM
A slightly different person tomorrow, a slightly different swing. Today, she looks entirely in charge.
That was a big miss. We'll see what happens.
Lightning strike at the Travelers injures spectators. Is that tournament self insured? Will that be considered act of God, or will they pay out?
Quote from: tower912 on June 23, 2024, 08:00:22 AM
Lightning strike at the Travelers injures spectators. Is that tournament self insured? Will that be considered act of God, or will they pay out?
God is angry golf courses have water fountains wasting precious water and energy. TPC Highlands is going to pay the price for their vanity and hubris
Maybe Bryson can donate some of that sweet Saudi money towards the humanitarian crisis the Saudi's ignored during this year's Hajj.
Eh, Greg Norman saw a woman in a restaurant in Saudi Arabia. It's all good
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 22, 2024, 07:11:19 PM
I can't hit my fade with enough pop and struggle getting enough height with my long irons. I feel pretty comfortable with my short game and ripping my low draw to keep the ball in play. But I still can't figure our how Woosy hit the ball so far. :(
position ball closer to front of your stance, off front foot
Muggsy, time to look into hybrids, 7woods, 9 woods.
Quote from: tower912 on June 23, 2024, 10:25:22 AM
Muggsy, time to look into hybrids, 7woods, 9 woods.
I use my 4H (22 degree) a lot. Maybe I'll look into a 7W.
I'm playing Pasatiempo in a couple of weeks and gripping a little bit that I'm gonna be embarrassed. The first two holes are 480+ par 4's. WTF? That seems a bit unreasonable. :(
Move forward. Or play them like par 5's and see if you can make birdie (4).
Quote from: tower912 on June 23, 2024, 10:59:07 AM
Move forward. Or play them like par 5's and see if you can make birdie (4).
My friends are all significantly better but I like the challenge. They just renovated the course and from what I've heard it's crazy hard. The good news is my boss is a member and hooked me up. :)
Then enjoy the round, play fast, stay happy, worry about score at the end. Golf is hard. We all suck. Don't fixate.
Quote from: tower912 on June 23, 2024, 11:23:32 AM
Then enjoy the round, play fast, stay happy, worry about score at the end. Golf is hard. We all suck. Don't fixate.
Ty. Generally the golf course is relaxing for me and I do like to play fast. I would like to shave two more strokes though. I think that's my ceiling.
Travelers 18th green. Oh, dear.
A lightning strike and now protesters.
Quote from: tower912 on June 23, 2024, 03:11:43 PM
Travelers 18th green. Oh, dear.
A lightning strike and now protesters.
The reaction all around was hilarious.
The protesters are morons. I condemn them. Nobody wins hearts and minds through vandalism.
Quote from: tower912 on June 23, 2024, 04:44:34 PM
The protesters are morons. I condemn them. Nobody wins hearts and minds through vandalism.
The won me over...... I'm going to burn some tires and plastic in my backyard.
Yang dropped the 🔨. Good for her. It's been a long time coming.
Spray paint and smoke bombs aren't particularly environmentally friendly. Protesters these days, sheesh
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 23, 2024, 10:52:24 AM
I use my 4H (22 degree) a lot. Maybe I'll look into a 7W.
I'm playing Pasatiempo in a couple of weeks and gripping a little bit that I'm gonna be embarrassed. The first two holes are 480+ par 4's. WTF? That seems a bit unreasonable. :(
Wait until you see the greens at Pasatiempo. Designed by Alistair MacKenezie. One of the top courses in the countru
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on June 23, 2024, 06:30:29 PM
Spray paint and smoke bombs aren't particularly environmentally friendly. Protesters these days, sheesh
They should be protesting what a disgrace it is the way the tour sets that course up
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 23, 2024, 06:30:35 PM
Wait until you see the greens at Pasatiempo. Designed by Alistair MacKenezie. One of the top courses in the countru
Yes. The greens are crazy fast from what I've been told. And the course is apparently tougher since the renovation. I may have a caddy....not sure. I think it's $385 walking if I didn't have a connection. My goal is 85.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 23, 2024, 06:50:01 PM
Yes. The greens are crazy fast from what I've been told. And the course is apparently tougher since the renovation. I may have a caddy....not sure. I think it's $385 walking if I didn't have a connection. My goal is 85.
They returned a lot of it to its original design intent. Have fun regardless of score and take it all in. It's a masterpiece
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 23, 2024, 11:14:26 AM
My friends are all significantly better but I like the challenge. They just renovated the course and from what I've heard it's crazy hard. The good news is my boss is a member and hooked me up. :)
I played it a couple of years ago on a golf trip with 3 friends. McKenzie's (very modest) home is just off (if I remember correctly) the 6th fairway. Great track, lots of up and down but walking is the way to go. Thought it was tough but fair. Liked it better than Pebble (a golf factory even if a great one) but not as much as Cypress Point (with Royal County Down in Northern Ireland my co favorite). Hope you love it!
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 23, 2024, 07:46:45 PM
I played it a couple of years ago on a golf trip with 3 friends. McKenzie's (very modest) home is just off (if I remember correctly) the 6th fairway. Great track, lots of up and down but walking is the way to go. Thought it was tough but fair. Liked it better than Pebble (a golf factory even if a great one) but not as much as Cypress Point (with Royal County Down in Northern Ireland my co favorite). Hope you love it!
RCD is phenomenal. I'm partial to Cabot Cliffs, because I played there the week they opened, but that's a great choice Lenny as your favorite. As far a Pasa or CP being better than Pebble? Many people I know would agree with you.
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 23, 2024, 08:13:12 PM
RCD is phenomenal. I'm partial to Cabot Cliffs, because I played there the week they opened, but that's a great choice Lenny as your favorite. As far a Pasa or CP being better than Pebble? Many people I know would agree with you.
Pebble is great but has become such a tourist spot, the rounds are long and familiar from so much exposure. Still, it's an amazing property. Would love to see an attempt at some reclamation of original design there. Much harder to do because of nature and lower land.
If Cypress got as much TV coverage as Pebble, it'd probably get much more love but golf people deep in the weeds know what a masterpiece that is. Of the 3, I think it's easily the best
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 23, 2024, 08:32:29 PM
Pebble is great but has become such a tourist spot, the rounds are long and familiar from so much exposure. Still, it's an amazing property. Would love to see an attempt at some reclamation of original design there. Much harder to do because of nature and lower land.
If Cypress got as much TV coverage as Pebble, it'd probably get much more love but golf people deep in the weeds know what a masterpiece that is. Of the 3, I think it's easily the best
I still haven't played Cypress but I think that's fair.
Play well, Muggsy!!
Anyone see that a 25y Golf Galaxy employee qualified for Rocket Mortgage this week? He was in a playoff and downed three beers before the playoff. Great story and hope the kid makes some money.
Yes.
Quote from: tower912 on June 23, 2024, 10:59:07 AM
Move forward. Or play them like par 5's and see if you can make birdie (4).
5 iron distance x36 = your appropriate course length.
Don't be a hero
I have seen that. What if your 5 iron is a hybrid? ;D. 6660, it is.
tower
6660 for me as well. I had never heard that formula before and great advice. I usually play closest tees to 6700.
How far you 'consistently' hit your 5 iron. If you hit one out of 10 that far en route to another 105, still move up.
tower
This old guy has found his game after decade plus of it being MIA. The last 3 years I have hit the ball extremely consistent and pretty long for 60y. Played Erin at approx 6600 last summer and hit 12 greens. Golf equipment and confidence turned my game around and very thankful. I had gotten to the point that I did not want to play.
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 25, 2024, 10:09:43 AM
5 iron distance x36 = your appropriate course length.
Don't be a hero
Ty. I've never heard that before.
They've pushed the front nine to 3360 which is a bit of a problem for me. The first three holes are freaking brutal. I'd prefer not to be +6 through 3. :(
Quote from: tower912 on June 25, 2024, 10:23:39 AM
How far you 'consistently' hit your 5 iron. If you hit one out of 10 that far en route to another 105, still move up.
Here's the thing: I use my 4H a lot more than my 5i. I am also much more consistent with it and probably hit it 20 yards farther. If I have a 175-190 par 3 I generally go with the 5i, However, if I'm 180 to the green from the fairway I generally take a bit off my 4H. #3 is 222 yards. I'm thinking my 3W but if it's playing longer I could be totally screwed. Maybe I'll just play forward. :)
Quote from: Goose on June 25, 2024, 10:30:15 AM
tower
This old guy has found his game after decade plus of it being MIA. The last 3 years I have hit the ball extremely consistent and pretty long for 60y. Played Erin at approx 6600 last summer and hit 12 greens. Golf equipment and confidence turned my game around and very thankful. I had gotten to the point that I did not want to play.
12 GIR = mid 70s. Bravo.
tower
12 greens turned into an 82. Made an 8 on the 9th, the short par three. Three putted the last three and went home disappointed in my score.
6600? I'm significantly shorter Goose. WTF? I'm best on a links course. :)
5,760 for me....
Just curious where ladies are supposed to tee off from when we get old? There is no senior ladies tee...
Quote from: Goose on June 25, 2024, 11:35:47 AM
tower
12 greens turned into an 82. Made an 8 on the 9th, the short par three. Three putted the last three and went home disappointed in my score.
I was +2 coming to 9 and my caddie said play real distance, don't adjust for slope. I didn't listen and tripled. Immediately fired him
rico
I trusted the caddie and have played there a good number of times but got too cute on my bunker shot. It did not help that the previous time I was +2 after 8 I made a 7 from the same bunker. My memory bank on bad holes is way too long and hurts me on a regular basis. Worst part is that I play about 50% of my rounds at Brown Deer and have about 6-7 holes that have had my number over the years. Have erased a couple of those holes over the past couple of years, but added a couple of new ones.
Quote from: Goose on June 25, 2024, 12:42:47 PM
rico
I trusted the caddie and have played there a good number of times but got too cute on my bunker shot. It did not help that the previous time I was +2 after 8 I made a 7 from the same bunker. My memory bank on bad holes is way too long and hurts me on a regular basis. Worst part is that I play about 50% of my rounds at Brown Deer and have about 6-7 holes that have had my number over the years. Have erased a couple of those holes over the past couple of years, but added a couple of new ones.
Same boat. Absolutely maddening. 8 and 16 have been my problem holes at Brown Deer.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 25, 2024, 12:51:58 PM
Same boat. Absolutely maddening. 8 and 16 have been my problem holes at Brown Deer.
16 got easier with some of the tree removal on the right. 8 still has my number.
The number of times I've been in that right bunker on 14 is staggering.
Quote from: jutaw22mu on June 25, 2024, 12:21:20 PM
5,760 for me....
Just curious where ladies are supposed to tee off from when we get old? There is no senior ladies tee...
There definitely should be tees at 3500.
I just moved up from the blacks to the blues at Brown Deer last season and my problem holes are getting smaller. 6, 8, 10, 11 and 15 all of have beaten down over the years. I am only scoring 1-2 shots better from the blues, but a less others on the card.
Quote from: MUfan12 on June 25, 2024, 01:19:32 PM
16 got easier with some of the tree removal on the right. 8 still has my number.
The number of times I've been in that right bunker on 14 is staggering.
I was in the 15th fairway once playing 14. Made par, so try that
Quote from: tower912 on June 25, 2024, 10:12:42 AM
I have seen that. What if your 5 iron is a hybrid? ;D. 6660, it is.
Driver distance x25.2
Quote from: jesmu84 on June 25, 2024, 05:28:39 PM
Driver distance x25.2
How accurate do you think the simulators are? I think I lose distance or the thing is biased against diminutive citizens. :)
Well, my driver was finally starting to come around and I was hitting bombs and playing bogey golf (which is my goal as someone who has been playing only 4 years) and last night I wrecked my elbow (on a beautiful tee shot that found the green of the par 3 we were on). Now I can barely move my arm without discomfort, struggled to get dressed this morning, and have swelling around the elbow (but not bursa). Debating if I should bail on my round Sunday or try to tough it out knowing I have an appointment with the bone and joint doc Monday. One of my favorite courses so my lean is to play..
Brutal 3 putt Bhatia
To paraphrase the great Gary Gaetti: "It's hard to make a putt when you have both hands around your throat."
https://x.com/fried_egg_golf/status/1808557997079343129?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
That's a proper golf course
High Pointe was an Excellent course casualty of 2008-09 recession . Course being revived as private club with new routing
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/tom-doak-partners-with-enthusiastic-investor-to-revive-high-pointe-in-michigan/
Keegan Bradley is expected to be the 2025 Ryder Cup captain for Team USA. Good ol' boys club in tatters. Might cheer for Team USA now but highly doubtful
Giddyup. Big East represents.
I kind of figured it would be Tiger.
Wonder if he will consult with Zach Johnson any. Keegan seems like a good choice.
Tiger is trying to rehab and broker a deal between the tours.
Quote from: tower912 on July 08, 2024, 01:28:33 PM
Tiger is trying to rehab and broker a deal between the tours.
Keegan needs to announce at his presser that Spieth, JT and Fowler have to make it on points and won't be charity cases this time around. In fact, he should ask Fowler to leave the country that week
Fowler sucks and has no business ever playing in a team event again but JT actually did well in Rome and I hope he's on the team again. Spieth is so inconsistent but if he's playing well I'd want him on the team
Hopefully Harman doesn't auto qualify again also. Same with Clark
Quote from: swoopem on July 08, 2024, 05:44:29 PM
Fowler sucks and has no business ever playing in a team event again but JT actually did well in Rome and I hope he's on the team again. Spieth is so inconsistent but if he's playing well I'd want him on the team
Hopefully Harman doesn't auto qualify again also. Same with Clark
JT is a frontrunner
Then they need to stink for the next year and others need to step up. Both on the President's cup team. 10-12 are Bhatia, Kirk, and Henley. Trembling.
I could see Willy Z making a strong comeback next year and Theegala making it. Also, Cam Young if they make it play super long
If Z can get and stay healthy.
Quote from: swoopem on July 08, 2024, 06:44:06 PM
I could see Willy Z making a strong comeback next year and Theegala making it. Also, Cam Young if they make it play super long
Zalatoris and Young can't putt. Mental midgets
I can relate.
ya think keegan's first pick would be Zach man and then tells JT to go suck it
Xander cracking the code of why America sucks at the Ryder Cup. It's dinners
https://x.com/brentleygc/status/1810672877714194941?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
It is dinners. Right now, the Euros are sitting down to dinners building rapport and planning how to beat the Americans.
Keegan says he never had conversations about being captain until told he was captain. Allegedly
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 09, 2024, 11:33:38 AM
Keegan says he never had conversations about being captain until told he was captain. Allegedly
What's a bigger cluster? Us Ryder Cup or USMNT for soccer?
Quote from: cheebs09 on July 09, 2024, 11:34:50 AM
What's a bigger cluster? Us Ryder Cup or USMNT for soccer?
US Ryder Cup team wins at home because they can set up the course for their preferred brain-dead golf, so they got that going for them
In the least surprising development of the golf season, JT follows his -8 round with a +2 round and will probably be lapped by the end of the morning
Weird Bryson story.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2024/07/10/liv-golf-bryson-dechambeau-lies-extortion-mike-schy-ex-coach-junior-golf-tournament/
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 09, 2024, 11:52:47 AM
US Ryder Cup team wins at home because they can set up the course for their preferred brain-dead golf, so they got that going for them
Isn't that also true for the European team?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 09, 2024, 11:25:27 AM
Xander cracking the code of why America sucks at the Ryder Cup. It's dinners
https://x.com/brentleygc/status/1810672877714194941?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
(https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/581/045/069517b92a5779bdeb8ce6686cf83014_crop_exact.jpg?w=458&h=305&q=75)
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 12, 2024, 07:24:52 AM
Weird Bryson story.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2024/07/10/liv-golf-bryson-dechambeau-lies-extortion-mike-schy-ex-coach-junior-golf-tournament/
Bryson must know a couple of sheiks who can make those payments.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 12, 2024, 07:24:52 AM
Weird Bryson story.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2024/07/10/liv-golf-bryson-dechambeau-lies-extortion-mike-schy-ex-coach-junior-golf-tournament/
Always good when defendant side presents a bunch of legal documents and the accuser spends 90% of their comments hurling insults.
Also, regardless if it was Bryson or Rory or Tiger, when someone claims they should be getting a non-unsubstantial amount of money cause "its nothing for them, they have so much", its always a red flag to me.
Quote from: JWags85 on July 12, 2024, 12:30:54 PM
Always good when defendant side presents a bunch of legal documents and the accuser spends 90% of their comments hurling insults.
Also, regardless if it was Bryson or Rory or Tiger, when someone claims they should be getting a non-unsubstantial amount of money cause "its nothing for them, they have so much", its always a red flag to me.
Tend to agree. Lots of sour grapes. Does reinforce my Bryson's current act isn't genuine, though.
Quote from: MU1in77 on July 12, 2024, 09:46:11 AM
Isn't that also true for the European team?
They do set up a course where American players have to use their whole bag and not just toaster head driver and wedge
I'm teeing off at Pasa at 8:45 (PT)! Hopefully I can manage an 85 or lower.
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 13, 2024, 07:39:32 AM
I'm teeing off at Pasa at 8:45 (PT)! Hopefully I can manage an 85 or lower.
I shot a 69 there a few weeks back
junior am future legends held at bristlecone pines in heartland this past July 9-12-hosted over 100 golfers from around the world
WSGA championship being held at Merrill hills this monday-thursday
*Tony Romo teeing it up Monday always a big draw
In other news in the world of golf.Sergio Garcia and His Spanish teammates won Individual and Team Championships in playoffs at Valderrama . Course played tough as always . Large crowds. I think LIV is developing a solid niche overseas and in underserved US markets.
My guess is sometime in the weeks after The Open Championship, an announcement will be made between PIF, PGA Tour, LIV and DP World Tour
https://x.com/livgolf_league/status/1812530988242571474?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Major props to Ayaka Furue. Tremendous performance.
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 14, 2024, 01:27:40 PM
Major props to Ayaka Furue. Tremendous performance.
Evian Resort one of the more scenic in Professional Golf worldwide.
followed Tony Romo around this afternoon at WSGA at Merrill. eeek...he's +12 thru 12. he got off to bad start on #1 tee shot went left into trees carded a triple. #2-par 5-great tee shot positioned him to hit the green in 2 but 3 putt...he never settled in and i believe they were going to put him on the clock which probably didn't help. they said he flew in this morning from tahoe on his private jet. i'm sure the dry to humid 2 hour time diff didn't help
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 13, 2024, 08:45:04 AM
I shot a 69 there a few weeks back
Whataya shoot on da back 9, hey?
What golf ball do you play Scoopers? I'm happy with the Bridgestone E6, but I was just curious if there are expert opinions on the best options? When I've tried the most expensive ones, I haven't seen much of a difference. I'm a natural draw hitter. I have tested out a few, but maybe I should do a comprehensive analysis. 10-15 extra yards would help me.
Kirkland 3 piece urethane and TaylorMade...wait for it...
ROCKETBALLZ
what else is there??
If you like E6s, try Q-Star. Similar price point. May spin a little more around the green.
I play any and all balls.
Quote from: tower912 on July 23, 2024, 06:48:47 PM
If you like E6s, try Q-Star. Similar price point. May spin a little more around the green.
Ty Tower.
Olds are playing Carnoustie this week. Another great course to watch golfers work their way around. Padraig Harrington has decided to take on all the holes this morning and has been entertaining as heck. Par-5 6th, named Hogan's Alley, is playing to a scoring average of nearly 6.
Carnoustie is probably my favorite in the rota. Ben Hogan winning there has a lot to do with that.
Last year, in the howling wind, was wildly entertaining.
Quote from: tower912 on July 26, 2024, 08:58:24 AM
Last year, in the howling wind, was wildly entertaining.
Ladies are at St. Andrews in a few weeks. That will be really fun to watch them
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 26, 2024, 08:49:17 AM
Carnoustie is probably my favorite in the rota. Ben Hogan winning there has a lot to do with that.
I remember back before you became an evangelical Christian, you made a huge bet on Hogan. You've never forgotten that cool $1M he made you!
Hogan always went out of his way to thank Rico for curing his hook.
Quote from: MU82 on July 26, 2024, 09:17:25 AM
I remember back before you became an evangelical Christian, you made a huge bet on Hogan. You've never forgotten that cool $1M he made you!
As an evangelical Christian, I can gamble all I want. It's the non-evangelicals I look down upon.
Cabrera in contention at Carnoustie. So many levels.
How good was Trevino? The more I learn about him the more I like the guy. Tremendous ball striker.
He won 6 majors going toe to toe with Nicklaus.
Quote from: tower912 on July 31, 2024, 08:50:05 PM
He won 6 majors going toe to toe with Nicklaus.
Tower,
He had great control of his club face. I get he rerouted the club from outside to inside, but he consistently squared it up. Very likeable guy.. I guess he was essentially self taught.
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 31, 2024, 07:35:03 PM
How good was Trevino? The more I learn about him the more I like the guy. Tremendous ball striker.
Quote from: tower912 on July 31, 2024, 08:50:05 PM
He won 6 majors going toe to toe with Nicklaus.
Saw Trevino live several times in his prime. He had a complete game . Hit it long enough, control with irons was incredible, could shots, play around green had creativity and was an excellent putter. Was able to confidently fire at tucked pins and rarely had to putt from distance.
Unfortunately he was struck by lightning in 75 outside Chicago at a tournament, which screwed up his body. Otherwise he may have had even more wins and majors.
Winning 6 against Nicklaus spoke volumes of how great he was . His career on tour started at an older age as well due to his socio economic circumstances.
Quote from: Herman Cain on August 01, 2024, 07:03:28 AM
Saw Trevino live several times in his prime. He had a complete game . Hit it long enough, control with irons was incredible, could shots, play around green had creativity and was an excellent putter. Was able to confidently fire at tucked pins and rarely had to putt from distance.
Unfortunately he was struck by lightning in 78 outside Chicago at a tournament, which screwed up his body. Otherwise he may have had even more wins and majors.
Winning 6 against Nicklaus spoke volumes of how great he was . His career on tour started at an older age as well due to his socio economic circumstances.
Oh....wow. I never heard that lightning story. He was relatively short Herman. :)
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 01, 2024, 08:00:31 AM
Oh....wow. I never heard that lightning story. He was relatively short Herman. :)
It was 1975, but yeah. Afterwards he said something like "I should have been holding a 1-iron because even God can't hit that club."
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 01, 2024, 08:09:03 AM
It was 1975, but yeah. Afterwards he said something like "I should have been holding a 1-iron because even God can't hit that club."
Lol.
I didn't know he was struck by lightning either. Trevino's rubber snake prank on Jack was pretty epic! He would have been fun to play a round with.
I've always heard he was the best ball striker out there.
His Happy Gilmore cameo was great too.
I've been watching some of Mr. Trevino's videos. Incredible wedge game. Those bump and runs are a thing of beauty. He is a master of hitting down on the ball and not flipping. What a cool dude. He also was excellent in the Ryder Cup.
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 01, 2024, 08:30:51 AM
I've been watching some of Mr. Trevino's videos. Incredible wedge game. Those bump and runs are a thing of beauty. He is a master of hitting down on the ball and not flipping. What a cool dude. He also was excellent in the Ryder Cup.
Years ago, I went to a clinic Trevino ran. He was all about bump-and-run and also putting from off the green if applicable. His thesis: "For weekend duffers, the closer you can keep the ball to the ground the better."
Has anyone been to a President's Cup? The fact that it's in Montreal next month doesn't suck. Very underrated city.
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 03, 2024, 09:08:46 AM
Has anyone been to a President's Cup? The fact that it's in Montreal next month doesn't suck. Very underrated city.
I went to First Presidents Cup which could have been better and more competitive if PGA Tour planned it out more thoughtfully. Unfortunately some of the top internationals like Ernie Els had conflicts
Royal Montreal is a classic course so should be a good event this year . International Team should be decent as there are some talented Canadian Players who will be pumped up
I went to Expo 67 World Fair in Montreal when that was a thing . Montreal Was very cool at the time and has only gotten better .
Scheffler just clinched player of the year. Well deserved.
Scheffler hits the ball so well he is rarely in three putt range and puts himself into frequent opportunity to convert birdies . Today was an excellent round where he executed to perfection.
https://golf.com/news/scottie-scheffler-wins-olympic-gold-medal-comeback/?amp=1
Matsuyama wins in Memphis. Without his interpreter or regular caddie. They were all sent home after the bag carrying all of their passports was stolen in London. Well done.
I'd be curious to hear about how that situation affects the caddies' cuts of the winnings.
Does the substitute caddie get the same percentage of the winner's share that the regular caddie would have? Does Matsuyama still give his regular caddie some $$$ even though he wasn't on the bag?
It's not "important" (except to the caddies). Just an interesting situation IMHO.
Quote from: MU82 on August 19, 2024, 07:24:19 AM
I'd be curious to hear about how that situation affects the caddies' cuts of the winnings.
Does the substitute caddie get the same percentage of the winner's share that the regular caddie would have? Does Matsuyama still give his regular caddie some $$$ even though he wasn't on the bag?
It's not "important" (except to the caddies). Just an interesting situation IMHO.
If you sub for Kuchar, you might get your lunch paid for.
I think it's ridiculous that the FedEx Cup playoffs don't have a regional rotation setup for the first two events (I also think it's silly that East Lake is always the Tour Championship spot).
For the tour to consistently skip Chicago/Wisconsin is silly. One of the first two playoff events should be here each year. Too many worthy courses to name, and golf fans in this region will come out and support, especially before football starts.
LIV will be staging an event shortly.
Quote from: tower912 on August 19, 2024, 01:47:36 PM
LIV will be staging an event shortly.
Yes, I'm aware they're coming to Bolingbrook. I purposely left them out and think the tour is silly for skipping Chicago/Southeast & Central Wisconsin.
Dish
I agree on Chicago or WI hosting a FedEx event. As you mentioned, plenty of worthy courses and the fans do come out in this area. I went down to a number of tournaments in greater Chicago over the years, but it has been quite some time. Regret not going the BMW at Conway Farms because I love that course.
By the way, dish, I agree about the real tour. The Midwest gets short changed. I miss the Buick Open birdiefest in Grand Blanc. Sadly, that is not where the tour is going right now. The closest is the Deere followed by Jack's place in Ohio.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on August 19, 2024, 01:49:44 PM
Yes, I'm aware they're coming to Bolingbrook. I purposely left them out and think the tour is silly for skipping Chicago/Southeast & Central Wisconsin.
Isn't the problem that FedEx and Coca-Cola are such large sponsors that they are going to want two of the events in Memphis and Atlanta respectively? That means the only one that is rotated is the BMW, which has been in the Chicago area a few times.
EDIT: I also wonder if the courses in Wisconsin actually WANT to host an event. They only have so many weeks to make money off of golf-tourism right? Shutting down the course for a few weeks doesn't help that.
tower
As a rule, I have never liked the crazy low scores, but the Buick was one event I loved watching them go low. Some great winners there and always enjoyed that tournament. You ever attend?
No. It ended before I had disposable time or income.
Koepka won LIV at The Greenbriar. Beat Rahm in playoff. Interview with Brooks:
https://youtu.be/2mBwwvK6APM?si=i17xrqDTn5p_qM2C
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 19, 2024, 02:10:19 PM
Isn't the problem that FedEx and Coca-Cola are such large sponsors that they are going to want two of the events in Memphis and Atlanta respectively? That means the only one that is rotated is the BMW, which has been in the Chicago area a few times.
EDIT: I also wonder if the courses in Wisconsin actually WANT to host an event. They only have so many weeks to make money off of golf-tourism right? Shutting down the course for a few weeks doesn't help that.
You make really good points I didn't consider.
I probably should have just said the entire tour schedule (not just the playoff events) skipping Chicago/Wisconsin feels like a missed opportunity for the tour/golf fans. Certainly should take your points (especially on sponsors) into consideration.
I guess I'm old enough now to have taken for granted getting the Western Open and GMO on the tour's regular schedule. Don't get me started on the men's future majors skipping the Midwest altogether. At least the Women are coming to MN and Chicago Golf Club in the next decade.
Edit: Hazeltine does have the Ryder Cup in '29.
Moving the PGA to May really screwed the upper midwest when it comes to hosting. So sites like Hazeltine, Whistling Straights, etc. that have hosted PGA events in the past, are basically cut off due to weather. My recollection when the US Open was hosted at Erin Hills was that the USGA was looking for an upper midwest site, but I don't think that entire experience went over all that well.
Quote from: tower912 on August 19, 2024, 02:05:29 PM
By the way, dish, I agree about the real tour. The Midwest gets short changed. I miss the Buick Open birdiefest in Grand Blanc. Sadly, that is not where the tour is going right now. The closest is the Deere followed by Jack's place in Ohio.
The rocket mortgage at DGC. They've extended it also
Doh!
Quote from: DegenerateDish on August 19, 2024, 03:21:28 PM
You make really good points I didn't consider.
I probably should have just said the entire tour schedule (not just the playoff events) skipping Chicago/Wisconsin feels like a missed opportunity for the tour/golf fans. Certainly should take your points (especially on sponsors) into consideration.
I guess I'm old enough now to have taken for granted getting the Western Open and GMO on the tour's regular schedule. Don't get me started on the men's future majors skipping the Midwest altogether. At least the Women are coming to MN and Chicago Golf Club in the next decade.
Edit: Hazeltine does have the Ryder Cup in '29.
Oakland Hills has quite a few USGA events lined up for the future including 4 majors
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2022/03/22/usga-eight-events-oakland-hills-country-club-michigan/
Quote from: DegenerateDish on August 19, 2024, 03:21:28 PM
You make really good points I didn't consider.
I probably should have just said the entire tour schedule (not just the playoff events) skipping Chicago/Wisconsin feels like a missed opportunity for the tour/golf fans. Certainly should take your points (especially on sponsors) into consideration.
I guess I'm old enough now to have taken for granted getting the Western Open and GMO on the tour's regular schedule. Don't get me started on the men's future majors skipping the Midwest altogether. At least the Women are coming to MN and Chicago Golf Club in the next decade.
Edit: Hazeltine does have the Ryder Cup in '29.
There's only one course in Chicago salivating to be a regular tour stop in the area, and no one wants to go back there.
Select privates are interesting in rotating every few years, but annual stop is a non-starter for many privates.
Kohler only wants majors. EH is stuck with USGA. Sentryworld would probably host, but that's the only real logical spot I could think of in Wisconsin.
Quote from: Herman Cain on August 19, 2024, 06:53:55 PM
Oakland Hills has quite a few USGA events lined up for the future including 4 majors
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2022/03/22/usga-eight-events-oakland-hills-country-club-michigan/
Probably the second nicest course I ever played. Was the "plus one" for a friend of mine that got the invite from a member. On the very first hole, I accidentally played our host's ball instead of mine. Doh! My golf balls now have a gigantic sharpie mark on them.
I wonder why I never received an invitation to return...
Quote from: Herman Cain on August 19, 2024, 06:53:55 PM
Oakland Hills has quite a few USGA events lined up for the future including 4 majors
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2022/03/22/usga-eight-events-oakland-hills-country-club-michigan/
You'll notice I purposely left out RMC and Bloomfield Hills.
Quote from: 🏀 on August 19, 2024, 08:53:01 PM
There's only one course in Chicago salivating to be a regular tour stop in the area, and no one wants to go back there.
Select privates are interesting in rotating every few years, but annual stop is a non-starter for many privates.
Kohler only wants majors. EH is stuck with USGA. Sentryworld would probably host, but that's the only real logical spot I could think of in Wisconsin.
I'll assume you're talking about Cog Hill or Olympia Fields (I'd pass on both). I won't argue about the private clubs, but Chicago GC is hosting the Women's US Open in 2033. RH hosted LIV the last two years. I know they won't go back to Butler (sigh).
The President's Cup is coming to Medinah in 2026.
After the reviews of the Ryder Cup, I was hoping Whistling Straits would be a part of the FedEx Playoffs, but I could see them not wanting major events. Although, not sure what that would be unless the PGA moves back to August.
What's wrong with Cog Hill? They used to get large, enthusiastic crowds when they hosted the Western Open every year, and the top pros in the world spoke very highly about the course. Tiger loved it. It was a little too difficult for me, but I still enjoyed playing there the dozen or so times I did.
I haven't been around those parts for a long time. Has perception of the course changed?
Quote from: MU82 on August 20, 2024, 10:07:34 AM
What's wrong with Cog Hill? They used to get large, enthusiastic crowds when they hosted the Western Open every year, and the top pros in the world spoke very highly about the course. Tiger loved it. It was a little too difficult for me, but I still enjoyed playing there the dozen or so times I did.
I haven't been around those parts for a long time. Has perception of the course changed?
My recollection is that a redesign of the course went very poorly.
82
I went to CH for the Western multiple times. Tiger did love the course and loved watching him play there. We saw Nick Price put on a great performance one year on a Friday. Great crowds and great course, imo.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 20, 2024, 10:19:40 AM
My recollection is that a redesign of the course went very poorly.
Phil really crapped on the redesigned, but he's irrelevant to the Tour these days. I bet most of the current Tour players have never played the course.
The bigger issue is that sponsors don't like Cog Hill.
The redesign was ridiculously overdone. Trying too hard for an US Open, tour will never return.
Quote from: RJax55 on August 20, 2024, 11:14:37 AM
The bigger issue is that sponsors don't like Cog Hill.
Why?
Quote from: 🏀 on August 20, 2024, 03:28:43 PM
The redesign was ridiculously overdone. Trying too hard for an US Open, tour will never return.
Thanks for the answer. (And to Sultan for similar response.)
The location of non major golf events is a function of The Sponsor and The Charity that is beneficiary. For many years The Western Open was in Chicago and The Western Golf Association Evans Scholars was beneficiary. Cog Hill fit well into that equation when the dollars involved where more manageable.
When the PGA Tour upgraded The Western to a playoff event with larger purse ( BMW Championship) other venues outside Chicago came into the mix. Evans Scholars is doing extremely well as a result of change in venue
This article gives a detail explanation of why the tournament is not coming into Chicago any time soon. As RJax 55 pointed out, Part of it had do with marketing the event. In addition to the presenting sponsors there are all sorts of other Corporations involved who use these events. For example one of the big vendors to our Company is hosting a couple of our Executives and their Spouses in Castle Pines at The BMW this week. It took all of two seconds for us to accept that invite .
The article below points out there is an 18 month marketing window to sell the sub sponsorships and with The Presidents Cup coming to Chicago in 2026 it was viewed as too much of a conflict to bring the BMW back to Chicago any time in the next few years.
https://www.si.com/golf/news/not-so-sweet-home-chicago-bmw-championship-wont-be-back-for-years#:~:text=But%20we%20want%20to%20come,out%20from%20a%20corporate%20perspective
Article detailing Western Golf Association as beneficiary
https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T0438795EN/bmw-championship-raises-5-5-million-for-the-evans-scholars-foundation-and-is-the-tournament-of-the-year?language=en
https://wgaesf.org/a-legacy-of-championships/6-bmw-championship
Quote from: MU82 on August 20, 2024, 06:18:01 PM
Why?
Feeling was that the course didn't cater to their expectations when it came to sponsor suites, tents and areas.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on August 20, 2024, 12:02:57 AM
I'll assume you're talking about Cog Hill or Olympia Fields (I'd pass on both). I won't argue about the private clubs, but Chicago GC is hosting the Women's US Open in 2033. RH hosted LIV the last two years. I know they won't go back to Butler (sigh).
That is interesting because Chicago GC didn't allow women members, but maybe that has changed. It's a great course and I believe the oldest 18 hole course in America.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 21, 2024, 09:17:13 AM
That is interesting because Chicago GC didn't allow women members, but maybe that has changed. It's a great course and I believe the oldest 18 hole course in America.
They do. Chicago GC hosted the US Women's Senior Open in 2018.
The legends golf clubs in Waukesha are better than St Andrews!
I'm only saying this because we have had 45 posts on this golf thread since Rico last posted on July 26 and I am officially worried. Thought this would get a rise out of him.
Rico went on a buddies golf trip to Michigan, and is taking a self chosen break from scoop. I would expect him back in a couple more weeks.
Unk is fine. He's on a Scoopcation ... which makes him smarter than the rest of us!
The Women's British Open may be the most entertaining tournament of the year. Predicted winds of 40-60 miles per hour. So bad that they are slowing the greens and pre-planning easier pin positions.
Glorious.
Quote from: tower912 on August 21, 2024, 02:14:19 PM
Rico went on a buddies golf trip to Michigan, and is taking a self chosen break from scoop. I would expect him back in a couple more weeks.
what? didn't even know he was gone
Quote from: tower912 on August 21, 2024, 02:36:16 PM
The Women's British Open may be the most entertaining tournament of the year. Predicted winds of 40-60 miles per hour. So bad that they are slowing the greens and pre-planning easier pin positions.
It feels like that course is getting obsolete for the men's game...
Rooting for Charlie Hull . Seems ready to put four good rounds together and win her first Major.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 21, 2024, 02:49:44 PM
It feels like that course is getting obsolete for the men's game...
It may be. But the R&A view it differently than the USGA. The USGA views par as sacred. The R&A sets up the course and lets the weather dictate outcomes. If it is benign and Bryson shoots 25 under, them's the breaks. If it is as it is supposed to be the next four days and nobody breaks par, cool.
Quote from: tower912 on August 21, 2024, 02:14:19 PM
Rico went on a buddies golf trip to Michigan, and is taking a self chosen break from scoop. I would expect him back in a couple more weeks.
Reako has buddies? Hoo new, hey?
Fairway woods and hybrids into the 362 yard first hole. It will be carnage the rest of the day.
Quote from: RJax55 on August 21, 2024, 09:21:46 AM
They do. Chicago GC hosted the US Women's Senior Open in 2018.
I see that women, african americans and jews are now allowed membership, and yet still the 5th most exclusive club in the world. :o
Quote from: tower912 on August 21, 2024, 03:08:40 PM
It may be. But the R&A view it differently than the USGA. The USGA views par as sacred. The R&A sets up the course and lets the weather dictate outcomes. If it is benign and Bryson shoots 25 under, them's the breaks. If it is as it is supposed to be the next four days and nobody breaks par, cool.
Well yeah, I think the distances are perfect for women on that course. The men can just blow it past most of the hazards off the tee.
There hasn't been a winning score under -10 on that course since John Daly in 1995. I don't think that's just weather.
Quote from: Herman Cain on August 21, 2024, 03:00:46 PM
Rooting for Charlie Hull . Seems ready to put four good rounds together and win her first Major.
Also rips cigs on the course like John Daly's long lost British daughter
Quote from: JWags85 on August 22, 2024, 10:52:36 AM
Also rips cigs on the course like John Daly's long lost British daughter
That is why I want her to be successful this week.
Quote from: Herman Cain on August 22, 2024, 12:20:13 PM
That is why I want her to be successful this week.
She's not underage Herm.
Charley with Excellent First Round. Leading at -5. Hopefully she can the momentum.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/golf/articles/cnvyrzgg1n7o.amp
Nelly and Charley both stunk up the place today.
Quote from: tower912 on August 24, 2024, 12:34:09 PM
Nelly and Charley both stunk up the place today.
Unfortunate day for both
LIV signs with CAA
https://frontofficesports.com/liv-golf-signs-with-caa-is-pga-tour-merger-getting-closer/
The ladies are putting on a show. Back nine at St. Andrews should be awesome.
4 tied late on Sunday. All have been world #1s at some point.
Ko hit the shots and made the fewest mistakes. Kongratulations.
Exciting finish. Korda just couldn't execute down the stretch. She's probably pretty disappointed.
Good for Keegan. Playing Captain?
Awesome job by Lydia Ko. A lot of people thought she would never get back to greatness. She has serious skills and quiet power with a wicked wedge game. I could see the floodgates opening, she's only 27. Outstanding weight distribution in her swing.
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 26, 2024, 09:35:26 AM
Awesome job by Lydia Ko. A lot of people thought she would never get back to greatness. She has serious skills and quiet power with a wicked wedge game. I could see the floodgates opening, she's only 27. Outstanding weight distribution in her swing.
Lydia is a great example of how hard it is in professional golf to keep top form year after year, even for the most talented.
Also, I would caution on the age thing. The career span on the LPGA looks nothing like the men's Tour.
I could also see Lydia walking away at any time.
Golf ratings have just been terrible this year and the FedEx Playoffs have been a disaster so far. It feels to me that moving the PGA to May has lead to a lot of casuals not spending much time on golf after The Open.
LIV. And the hubbub around it.
Quote from: tower912 on August 28, 2024, 10:28:42 AM
LIV. And the hubbub around it.
But no one is watching that either. So are people just saying "screw it" and watching something else entirely?
Yes.
I think LIV has been a big cause in the decline. I was listening to a golf program on ESPN MKE and the host noted how little interest he has in watching golf this year. He and co-host both noted LIV as part of the reason. I also think that some fans are turned off by the money being thrown around and constantly being mentioned. I have probably watched 50% less this season, including not being glued to the TV for the majors.
Quote from: tower912 on August 28, 2024, 10:31:49 AM
Yes.
Quote from: Goose on August 28, 2024, 10:35:24 AM
I think LIV has been a big cause in the decline. I was listening to a golf program on ESPN MKE and the host noted how little interest he has in watching golf this year. He and co-host both noted LIV as part of the reason. I also think that some fans are turned off by the money being thrown around and constantly being mentioned. I have probably watched 50% less this season, including not being glued to the TV for the majors.
Thank you both.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 28, 2024, 10:17:00 AM
Golf ratings have just been terrible this year and the FedEx Playoffs have been a disaster so far. It feels to me that moving the PGA to May has lead to a lot of casuals not spending much time on golf after The Open.
The casual fan has never been all that motivated to watch the Fed Ex Cup in the first place. Majors and the Ryder Cup (maybe The Players) move the needle for casual fans, that's it. This is why the old WGC events never really took off with viewers.
The fact that the BMW had almost the same number of viewers as a pre-season Saints-Titans game is terrible.
Quote from: RJax55 on August 28, 2024, 10:47:59 AM
The casual fan has never been all that motivated to watch the Fed Ex Cup in the first place. Majors and the Ryder Cup (maybe The Players) move the needle for casual fans, that's it. This is why the old WGC events never really took off with viewers.
Agree. I am a casual golf fan. I rarely watch regular tour events, and I have watched maybe an hour of all FedEx Cup events combined over however many years it's existed.
I watch the majors, especially the weekend rounds, and I'll tune in and out of the Ryder Cup and Presidents Cup, especially if it's close on Sunday.
(FWIW, I don't watch exhibition football, either.)
Sahith Theegala is no Patrick Reed.
LIV golf took some of the big names from the PGA and watered it down. with PGA being diluted and LIV golf hard to find on tv, all of golf has suffered
Quote from: tower912 on September 01, 2024, 07:21:44 AM
Sahith Theegala is no Patrick Reed.
Theegala discusses self reported penalty
https://youtu.be/zRbBrG08ctY?si=YRIQQhxp5aFzdxwQ
Quote from: Herman Cain on September 01, 2024, 08:09:27 AM
Theegala discusses self reported penalty
https://youtu.be/zRbBrG08ctY?si=YRIQQhxp5aFzdxwQ
this is why i say golfers can be some of the most honorable people. it can bring out the best and the worst of people. golf a round with someone and you will find out more about them in that 4 hours than you would in a week of others
Quote from: rocket surgeon on September 01, 2024, 08:25:56 AM
this is why i say golfers can be some of the most honorable people. it can bring out the best and the worst of people. golf a round with someone and you will find out more about them in that 4 hours than you would in a week of others
https://golf.com/lifestyle/celebrities/how-why-president-trump-cheats-golf-playing-tiger-woods/
Ain't that the truth
The best book I read in 2018.
(https://pictures.abebooks.com/isbn/9781472266118-us.jpg)
GB & I defeats the American gals at the Curtis Cup, 10 1/2 - 9 1/2. Played at Sunningdale, a fantastic course. Event of the weekend
The recency bias around Xander "having a better season" was fun while it lasted.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 01, 2024, 08:31:08 AM
https://golf.com/lifestyle/celebrities/how-why-president-trump-cheats-golf-playing-tiger-woods/
Ain't that the truth
you did see that i said "can be" but nice how you and 82 have to bring your political opinions into the discussion. let's talk about weekend's handy... was it a 6 or an 8? i doubt he can remember the last time he and corn pop golfed
Quote from: rocket surgeon on September 01, 2024, 06:51:23 PM
you did see that i said "can be" but nice how you and 82 have to bring your political opinions into the discussion. let's talk about weekend's handy... was it a 6 or an 8? i doubt he can remember the last time he and corn pop golfed
We were just reaffirming your point. 45 is a great example of character revealed on the golf course. Lying and cheating on the course like in life. Great example of your point.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 28, 2024, 10:31:00 AM
But no one is watching that either. So are people just saying "screw it" and watching something else entirely?
In an interview, Faldo mentioned that Pickleball had higher ratings than a Koepka-Rahm playoff for LIV. So nobody is watching.
Scottie's average score in PGA events this year:68.0. Lowest in PGA history.
Morikowa ended up the season on a high note with lowest total strokes for The Tour Championship. Counts as a win for OWGR purposes but not an official PGA Tour win
The price of Theegala's sand penalty? $2.5M. His caddie's reaction when he learned this?
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MU82, look up Norgaard chipping at the British Masters. 3 straight duffer chips, still wins the tourney.
Quote from: tower912 on September 02, 2024, 01:22:24 PM
MU82, look up Norgaard chipping at the British Masters. 3 straight duffer chips, still wins the tourney.
The chipping part of that I've got down. The winning tourneys part is where I fall a little short.
Glad to hear your short game had improved.
The next version of 'The Match' is announced. PGA tour v LIV. Rory, Scottie, v Koepka and Bryson.
President's Cup, pair Harman and Bradley against the pairing with the fastest players. The pre-shot tics of those two together will fry the brains of their opponents.
Had the opportunity to enjoy Laurel Valley Golf Club in Ligonier , PA. Course was in immaculate condition. Design was great, challenging for good golfers, but still accessible by duffers.
Service by the entire staff was Excellent. The Club was expressly built in 1959 by The Captains of Industry in Pittsburgh and Arnold Palmer for corporate entertaining purposes . Lots of great Arnold Palmer stories by our member host.
The Laurel Highlands area of Pennsylvania is incredibly scenic and bucolic
Quote from: Herman Cain on September 06, 2024, 05:20:22 PM
Had the opportunity to enjoy Laurel Valley Golf Club in Ligonier , PA. Course was in immaculate condition. Design was great, challenging for good golfers, but still accessible by duffers.
Service by the entire staff was Excellent. The Club was expressly built in 1959 by The Captains of Industry in Pittsburgh and Arnold Palmer for corporate entertaining purposes . Lots of great Arnold Palmer stories by our member host.
The Laurel Highlands area of Pennsylvania is incredibly scenic and bucolic
I played it with Arnie numerous times. It's ok
Folds of Honor Collegiate on Golf Channel thos afternoon and tomorrow. Women currently, men this evening. It shows off American Dunes. Love that course.
Quote from: tower912 on September 09, 2024, 01:58:54 PM
Folds of Honor Collegiate on Golf Channel thos afternoon and tomorrow. Women currently, men this evening. It shows off American Dunes. Love that course.
Great tribute to our fallen Heros
Might be worth tuning into DP Worldtour Irish Open this week. They are playing at Royal County Down which is rarely the site of pro events .
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/royal-county-down-irish-open-dp-world-tour/amp
Quote from: Herman Cain on September 10, 2024, 10:10:48 AM
Might be worth tuning into DP Worldtour Irish Open this week. They are playing at Royal County Down which is rarely the site of pro events .
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/royal-county-down-irish-open-dp-world-tour/amp
Rare smart post. I've played this course with John Armitage a few times. Best round is a 62 here.
Kudos, not bad for 9 holes, hey?
Royal County Down looks awesome. I am amused by the random fans in shorts when it is clearly cold. That would be me.
Quote from: tower912 on September 12, 2024, 07:17:21 AM
Royal County Down looks awesome. I am amused by the random fans in shorts when it is clearly cold. That would be me.
It's fantastic.
On another note, how the F did Joe Buck hit a golf ball into his wife's ankle??
Reading the article it sounds like she was doing a handstand on the front of the tee box. She did the splits mid air as he was teeing off and the ball hit her ankle.
Sounds like one of the dumber things I've heard on a golf course.
Quote from: tower912 on September 12, 2024, 07:17:21 AM
Royal County Down looks awesome. I am amused by the random fans in shorts when it is clearly cold. That would be me.
Royal County Down is awesome. Tied with Cypress Point for my favorite among courses I have played.
Lenny
I have heard similar comments as yours about RCD from golf buddies. That is one track I hope to play one day.
Quote from: cheebs09 on September 12, 2024, 01:46:19 PM
Reading the article it sounds like she was doing a handstand on the front of the tee box. She did the splits mid air as he was teeing off and the ball hit her ankle.
Sounds like one of the dumber things I've heard on a golf course.
Either she's a colossal moron or the whole story is utter b-ass.. He could have shanked his drive.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 12, 2024, 04:04:11 PM
Either she's a colossal moron or the whole story is utter b-ass.. He could have shanked his drive.
Who cares?
Tiger with another back surgery. I lose track.... more surgeries or majors?
Quote from: tower912 on September 14, 2024, 11:13:24 AM
Tiger with another back surgery. I lose track.... more surgeries or majors?
Six publicly announced back surgeries
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-back-surgery-2024/amp
Charley Hull came back Saturday with a pair of wins with partners , after getting "smoked" on Friday
Charlie says to keep grinding.
https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2024/9/14/24244875/solheim-cup-charley-hull-drops-cold-hard-facts
Quote from: Herman Cain on September 15, 2024, 07:27:35 AM
Charley Hull came back Saturday with a pair of wins with partners , after getting "smoked" on Friday
Charlie says to keep grinding.
https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2024/9/14/24244875/solheim-cup-charley-hull-drops-cold-hard-facts
She's not going to sleep with you
Rory misses 15 footer for Eagle to tie on final hole to lose . Rasmus Hojgaard wins Irish Open at Royal County Down
Jon Rahm won the LIV Event in Chicago as well as led the LIV Individual Season Race. Earned $37 Million .
Quote from: Herman Cain on September 16, 2024, 02:30:45 PM
Jon Rahm won the LIV Event in Chicago as well as led the LIV Individual Season Race. Earned $37 Million .
Tens of fans are thrilled for him.
PGA members want LIV traitors to pay back their money before rejoining the PGA.
All about the benjamins.
Rory channelling his inner Greg Norman. Another second in an important event. Two weeks in a row now. First Irish Open and now BMW PGA. Lost to Billy Horschel in playoff
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2024/09/22/bmw-pga-championship-2024-winner-billy-horschel-rory-mcilroy-final-round-scores/
Some great events coming to Wisconsin over the next 15 years
https://x.com/garydamatogolf/status/1838597684917342324?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
I think they can go ahead and quit playing the President's Cup until they find a new format that's compelling.
Put 6 women and 6 men on each team
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 26, 2024, 04:49:11 PM
I think they can go ahead and quit playing the President's Cup until they find a new format that's compelling.
Put 6 women and 6 men on each team
Is the President's Cup the worst sporting event on the calendar?
Quote from: RJax55 on September 26, 2024, 05:00:33 PM
Is the President's Cup the worst sporting event on the calendar?
It's a contender. And before the Saudi fans boys say what if they let the Saudi government employees play, this event has been close 3 times this century and Ernie won't captain again because he's convinced the International team can't win
Muggsy not ranting means it isn't competitive or interesting.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 26, 2024, 04:49:11 PM
I think they can go ahead and quit playing the President's Cup until they find a new format that's compelling.
Put 6 women and 6 men on each team
Idiot
Wow. One of the reasons I haven't been gloating too much about Detroit is that you never know when the momentum is going to switch and you have to have a crow buffet.
Quote from: tower912 on September 27, 2024, 03:24:28 PM
Wow. One of the reasons I haven't been gloating too much about Detroit is that you never know when the momentum is going to switch and you have to have a crow buffet.
I should know better than to underestimate the ability of the American men to get blown out in alternate shot
Yup. ..all tied up at the garden
Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 27, 2024, 03:49:48 PM
I should know better than to underestimate the ability of the American men to get blown out in alternate shot
Sweet fking Jesus. Gag job????? On the take??? WTF???? Inexcusable imo.
There it is.
Tom Kim is always entertaining
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/41463397/scottie-scheffler-fires-back-tom-kim-presidents-cup
Apparently the Americans decided to eat Poutime all night instead of focusing on their debacle yesterday. Not.a good start.
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 28, 2024, 09:05:45 AM
Apparently the Americans decided to eat Poutime all night instead of focusing on their debacle yesterday. Not.a good start.
It's a great start, IMO
I really like watching Tom Kim - love his energy. But I wonder what his opponents think of him.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 28, 2024, 12:40:06 PM
I really like watching Tom Kim - love his energy. But I wonder what his opponents think of him.
Kim is a bundle of energy, but he sets himself up for a crow appetizer. si woo and his night-night gesture was fine the first time or two, but then got to be a bit much.
cantlay shut them up the old fashioned way
Judging by Full Swing, he seemed to be pretty well liked.
Day hits a great approach at 1 and X makes a 45' putt to answer. Day answers. Great start.
Royal Montreal is an Excellent course. Wish they would have Canadian Open there more frequently.
Things getting interesting
Gals shooting lights out today. Final Round 60 and 61 to set up a playoff
It sounds like our team was hung over on Fri.
The Ryder Cup has announced ticket prices for next year's event at Bethpage Black in New York, and goodness gracious are they steep.
Current prices: $255.27 for each of the two practice days, $423.64 for the "Celebrity Matches" and Opening Ceremony, and $749.51 for each of the three match days.
From Yahoo Sports' Jay Busbee:
The irony of these high prices at Bethpage Black is that the course itself is one of the most notable public tracks in the U.S., a testament to the inclusive nature of golf.
Greens fees are reasonable — a New York resident could play the course about 10 times for the cost of one Ryder Cup ticket — and getting a tee time is dependent on whether you can operate a cellphone, not on whether your great-grandfather knew the elites of his day.
There's a subtler reason behind the high get-in costs beyond just simple profit motive, however. The Ryder Cup is the most nakedly partisan event in golf, with crowds that rival European soccer or college football for sheer vocal ferocity.
Coming into this next Ryder Cup, there was substantial concern on both sides of the U.S.-European divide about the anticipated behavior of New York-area fans. High prices could do a whole lot to deter the kind of fan likely to curse out Rory McIlroy.
The result could end up being an uncommonly tepid crowd, which is exactly what the Ryder Cup doesn't need. Home-field advantage isn't just palpable at Ryder Cups, it's virtually necessary; the home team has won eight of the last nine Ryder Cups.
There's a conversation to be had about evening the playing field at Ryder Cups, but is pricing out a chunk of the gallery the right move? We'll find out a year from now.
That's insane. I went to the Wednesday practice round and Saturday matches at Whistling, and the prices were $75/225 if memory serves.
It's a cool event to be at... but there's no way in hell I'd pay $750 for it.
I am happy that I have attended two Ryder Cups in the past, but unless someone is taking me as a guest, I will be passing on future Ryder Cups.
Wasn't crowd size an issue last time they hosted a US Open? My guess is that they want to limit the size so this is the best way to do it.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 15, 2024, 11:32:10 AM
Wasn't crowd size an issue last time they hosted a US Open? My guess is that they want to limit the size so this is the best way to do it.
They want to limit the hooliganism.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 15, 2024, 11:35:06 AM
They want to limit the hooliganism.
A more effective way to do that would simply be to screen out ADA members.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 15, 2024, 11:36:43 AM
A more effective way to do that would simply be to screen out ADA members.
I'll be in the luxury suite with C.S. Venkatakrishnan
I had to look that one up.
So they're keeping the poors out. Smart
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 15, 2024, 11:42:49 AM
I have a diverse group of business associates.
Hopefully Herman will let you into his universe one day.
Quote from: swoopem on October 15, 2024, 11:45:00 AM
So they're keeping the poors out. Smart
The tour is full of evangelical Christians, so it makes a lot of sense. They don't like being around poor people as a rule and the PGA of America needs to keep them happy.
Stop.selling booze.
I wonder if it's a strategy to keep Euro fans away. They're already spending a bunch on travel and now tickets are 3x more than the last time. Maybe, who knows
Quote from: swoopem on October 15, 2024, 12:00:55 PM
I wonder if it's a strategy to keep Euro fans away. They're already spending a bunch on travel and now tickets are 3x more than the last time. Maybe, who knows
The real answer is simple:
Money grab
Pay for the lawyers fighting LIV.
Quote from: tower912 on October 15, 2024, 12:13:38 PM
Pay for the lawyers fighting LIV.
PGA Tour doesn't get money from the Ryder Cup. Euro Tour does but they're not fighting LIV in court. At least I don't think they are
PGA tour receives money from the PGA of America.
Quote from: tower912 on October 15, 2024, 12:38:23 PM
PGA tour receives money from the PGA of America.
Not for the Ryder Cup
I am going to disagree. The Google says it does.
Quote from: tower912 on October 15, 2024, 12:49:21 PM
I am going to disagree. The Google says it does.
10-20% of the TV deal and a donation to players charities
Quote from: MU82 on October 15, 2024, 11:08:57 AM
The Ryder Cup has announced ticket prices for next year's event at Bethpage Black in New York, and goodness gracious are they steep.
Current prices: $255.27 for each of the two practice days, $423.64 for the "Celebrity Matches" and Opening Ceremony, and $749.51 for each of the three match days.
From Yahoo Sports' Jay Busbee:
The irony of these high prices at Bethpage Black is that the course itself is one of the most notable public tracks in the U.S., a testament to the inclusive nature of golf.
Greens fees are reasonable — a New York resident could play the course about 10 times for the cost of one Ryder Cup ticket — and getting a tee time is dependent on whether you can operate a cellphone, not on whether your great-grandfather knew the elites of his day.
There's a subtler reason behind the high get-in costs beyond just simple profit motive, however. The Ryder Cup is the most nakedly partisan event in golf, with crowds that rival European soccer or college football for sheer vocal ferocity.
Coming into this next Ryder Cup, there was substantial concern on both sides of the U.S.-European divide about the anticipated behavior of New York-area fans. High prices could do a whole lot to deter the kind of fan likely to curse out Rory McIlroy.
The result could end up being an uncommonly tepid crowd, which is exactly what the Ryder Cup doesn't need. Home-field advantage isn't just palpable at Ryder Cups, it's virtually necessary; the home team has won eight of the last nine Ryder Cups.
There's a conversation to be had about evening the playing field at Ryder Cups, but is pricing out a chunk of the gallery the right move? We'll find out a year from now.
Someone did an analysis and figured out that they could maximize Corporate Entertainment dollars this way.
I attended the Formula 1 US Grand Prix in Austin as a corporate guest . The Saudi footprint was all over this event, From the very large presence of Saudi Oil Company Aramco to the public address announcer recognizing MBS before the National Anthem and University of Texas Longhorn Band . None of that seemed to matter to the fans as well over 400,000 showed up over the 3 days. In speaking to folks running one of the most celebrated racing teams ,it was estimated that if Saudis wanted to buy the entirety of Formula 1 price would be 20 Billion.
So my guess is LIV is an easily affordable sports circuit for Saudis to continue sponsoring. My guess is we see a couple more well known players sign on . Jon Rahm is recruiting 6-7 guys in LIV off season. The Scottie Rory versus Brooks Bryson match will fuel that fire .
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/golf/jon-rahm-tony-finau-liv-33927520.amp
Charley Hull wins first event since 2022
https://www.bbc.com/sport/golf/articles/cd9nl8gzx55o.amp
Rio Takeda defeated Marina Alex in a playoff to win the TOTO Japan Classic. Herm doesn't jerk off to her, so he probably won't post the result
Bubba makes home contribution to families in need
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/bubba-watson-makes-hole-in-one-indonesia-masters-donates-house-family-in-need-2024?utm_medium=email&utm_source=110324&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM57040&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
So,if Greg Norman follows through with his idle, off the cuff remark about having a 4 man team of regular Joes try to qualify for a LIV event, would anyone here give it a whirl?
Quote from: tower912 on November 03, 2024, 11:15:21 AMSo,if Greg Norman follows through with his idle, off the cuff remark about having a 4 man team of regular Joes try to qualify for a LIV event, would anyone here give it a whirl?
It wouldn't be difficult
Quote from: tower912 on November 03, 2024, 11:15:21 AMSo,if Greg Norman follows through with his idle, off the cuff remark about having a 4 man team of regular Joes try to qualify for a LIV event, would anyone here give it a whirl?
It is Greg Norman, Jr idea. PGA Tour eliminating Monday Qualifiers in coming years. So those 4 Monday Qualifiers spots could theoretically be open by LIV each week. It is not really Averages Joes, it is the usual fringe PGA Tour Pros.
https://golf.com/news/average-joes-liv-golf-greg-norman-wild-idea/?amp=1
Quote from: tower912 on November 03, 2024, 11:15:21 AMSo,if Greg Norman follows through with his idle, off the cuff remark about having a 4 man team of regular Joes try to qualify for a LIV event, would anyone here give it a whirl?
It would be more interesting to watch than anything that takes place on the Blood Money Tour to date.
Hard to believe people cheer for Team USA at these events
https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/rory-mcilroy-shane-lowry-push-back-on-u-s-ryder-cup-players-demands-would-pay-for-the-privilege-to-play/
Tough Sunday in golf for Buffoon Cain. His spankbank gal loses to Nelly by shooting +1 today and Rory wins the Race to Dubai
Winding up... I did not travel to golf this year.
Titleist GT2 driver is like cheating.
Cleveland CBX wedge (52) and RTX6 (56) were large forgiveness upgrades over the Vokey SM6's.
I did not discover any magic, unknown, golf balls. There are golf balls that don't impress me as much. But, over the course of a round, barring outlier conditions, I score the same with a DUO as I do with a Pro V1.
The swing tip that may have helped the most was to keep my weight on my front side and turn without swaying on my irons. If my weight is never on my right side, it can't stay there.
The glitch is sometimes getting too close to the ball, not leaving room for a full, free swing.
I hope everybody got out and played. I hope everyone found a swing thought that worked for them.
Quote from: tower912 on November 19, 2024, 06:38:43 PMWinding up... I did not travel to golf this year.
Titleist GT2 driver is like cheating.
Cleveland CBX wedge (52) and RTX6 (56) were large forgiveness upgrades over the Vokey SM6's.
I did not discover any magic, unknown, golf balls. There are golf balls that don't impress me as much. But, over the course of a round, barring outlier conditions, I score the same with a DUO as I do with a Pro V1.
The swing tip that may have helped the most was to keep my weight on my front side and turn without swaying on my irons. If my weight is never on my right side, it can't stay there.
The glitch is sometimes getting too close to the ball, not leaving room for a full, free swing.
I hope everybody got out and played. I hope everyone found a swing thought that worked for them.
Shrink the game
Patrick Reed wins Hong Kong Open on Asian Tour. First win in 4 years.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2024/11/24/asian-tour-hong-kong-open-2024-winner-patrick-reed-liv-golf-scores/
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/patrick-reed-59-asian-tour-hong-kong-open
Lexi Thompson and other LPGA veterans finish their career today.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/gallery/photos-lexi-thompson-maybe-final-cme-group-tour-championship/?itm_source=parsely-api
Quote from: Herman Cain on November 24, 2024, 05:32:09 PMLexi Thompson and other LPGA veterans finish their career today.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/gallery/photos-lexi-thompson-maybe-final-cme-group-tour-championship/?itm_source=parsely-api
You can still ogle her
Pretty powerful read here:
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-misunderstood-life-of-grayson-murray
Which drunken scoop golfers got their butts whipped by one guy out in Arizona?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 26, 2024, 09:09:00 AMPretty powerful read here:
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-misunderstood-life-of-grayson-murray
Powerful indeed. Life is complicated, so are people. Human nature makes us want to be judgmental, put people in a box. I'm sure some people who encountered Grayson Murray when he was struggling held pretty harsh opinions of him. Thanks for sharing an article that is honest but also kind towards a guy who deserves it.
Australian Open Golf has Woman and Men playing tournament on same course at the same time.
The Grayson story is very sad. Mental illness is a serious struggle and it is hard on all involved. The article was well done and I hope his family and friends can find peace in their lives.
Tiger not tournament ready after most recent surgery. Hopefully he will be ready by Masters
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/42755612/tiger-woods-long-way-go-pga-tour-ready
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 03, 2024, 12:58:10 PMTiger not tournament ready after most recent surgery. Hopefully he will be ready by Masters
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/42755612/tiger-woods-long-way-go-pga-tour-ready
He hasn't exactly been tournament ready for the majors he has played in either.
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 03, 2024, 12:58:10 PMTiger not tournament ready after most recent surgery. Hopefully he will be ready by Masters
Why? You like watching old, injured golfers miss the cut?
The big LIV PGA Tour match between Brooks Bryson and Scottie and Rory
https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/the-showdown-golf-match-live-updates-scottie-schefler-rory-mcilroy-battle-bryson-dechambeau-brooks-koepka/live/?c=sc&annotation=app
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 17, 2024, 05:26:05 PMThe big LIV PGA Tour match between Brooks Bryson and Scottie and Rory
https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/the-showdown-golf-match-live-updates-scottie-schefler-rory-mcilroy-battle-bryson-dechambeau-brooks-koepka/live/?c=sc&annotation=app
Who won?
I forgot about it. Apparently, Rory and Scottie.
PGA players dog-walked the LIV guys. And while I love watching these type of events the personalities involved made watching about as interesting as I'd imagine one of the meat summits would be.
Quote from: Jables1604 on December 18, 2024, 10:37:40 AMPGA players dog-walked the LIV guys. And while I love watching these type of events the personalities involved made watching about as interesting as I'd imagine one of the meat summits would be.
I wonder what lesson they'll learn from this event? Men's golf is probably the least relevant it's been in decades.
LIV is a bust. The Tour is losing sponsors and viewers. Players on both tours have no idea the product sucks and don't care. The players that do care on the PGA side are dismissed unless they care solely about money.
Without the majors, the sport would be on the level of bowling
Any Scoopers have an electric/remote controlled caddy/buggy?
I have a beat on a very lightly used Zip Navigator for over 50% off on F'Book marketplace. https://us.mgigolf.com/products/mgi-zip-navigator
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 18, 2024, 11:44:55 AMI wonder what lesson they'll learn from this event? Men's golf is probably the least relevant it's been in decades.
LIV is a bust. The Tour is losing sponsors and viewers. Players on both tours have no idea the product sucks and don't care. The players that do care on the PGA side are dismissed unless they care solely about money.
Without the majors, the sport would be on the level of bowling
If past history is any indication they won't learn any lesson.
I kind of got involved in the sport later in life so my experience starts just prior to the dawn of the Tiger era. My understanding is that people weren't exactly lining up to watch Hal Sutton and Corey Pavin duke it out before Eldrick came on the scene.
Most likely will be cyclical. Somebody will come along and reignite interest in the sport. For the time being I'm not certain crowds will show up to watch Justin Thomas or Jordan Spieth.
Ancillary benefit is, at least where I live, tee times are much more available than they were just a few years ago.
Seriously jealous. COVID drove non-golfers to the course to drink, and around here, they have not left. Having 12 golf courses in a 30 mile radius close in the last 15 years kind of sucks, too.
Quote from: Jables1604 on December 18, 2024, 06:45:14 PMIf past history is any indication they won't learn any lesson.
I kind of got involved in the sport later in life so my experience starts just prior to the dawn of the Tiger era. My understanding is that people weren't exactly lining up to watch Hal Sutton and Corey Pavin duke it out before Eldrick came on the scene.
Most likely will be cyclical. Somebody will come along and reignite interest in the sport. For the time being I'm not certain crowds will show up to watch Justin Thomas or Jordan Spieth.
Ancillary benefit is, at least where I live, tee times are much more available than they were just a few years ago.
We need to shrink the game.
What's amazing is, the majors feel obligated to increase purses. The money athletes make now has become to numb to sports fans. There was a time when you could brag about prize money for your event. Now? Nobody cares. Golf keeps thinking more money makes the product better when the average fan doesn't care about it.
Quote from: tower912 on December 18, 2024, 06:48:08 PMSeriously jealous. COVID drove non-golfers to the course to drink, and around here, they have not left. Having 12 golf courses in a 30 mile radius close in the last 15 years kind of sucks, too.
All the Country Clubs in our area have long wait lists and they are upping initiation fees and dues. Only way to get into some is buy a home in Country Club community.
Pay attention when your kid is on the tee.
One last 2024 round today. God bless global warming.
As usual, Eamon Lynch is right:
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/pga/2024/12/29/lynch-pga-tour-2024-year-players-flexed-muscles/77297102007/
Anyone been to Treetops Resort in northern Michigan? Looking at that for the 2025 trip.
Many times. It is lovely. They do the lodging and resort part well. The courses are beautiful. Some truly memorable, some generic Northern Michigan
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on December 29, 2024, 12:20:35 PMAnyone been to Treetops Resort in northern Michigan? Looking at that for the 2025 trip.
Yeah I have. It's pretty good, not great. I remember really liking one of the courses and the others were decent. I did shoot my career low of 80 there.
The par 3 course is awesome. The lodging was good and it was cheap but I like going to Boyne, Forest Dunes, or Arcadia more
But I would go back
I love Forest Dunes/Loop. Lodging isn't ideal. But the Loop is destination golf. Arcadia South is on my 2025 list. If you really want to get off the beaten path (A) Forest Dunes, and (B) Garland. Northern Michigan meets Florida golf in that there is a lot of water.
Quote from: tower912 on December 29, 2024, 12:34:36 PMI love Forest Dunes/Loop. Lodging isn't ideal. But the Loop is destination golf. Arcadia South is on my 2025 list. If you really want to get off the beaten path (A) Forest Dunes, and (B) Garland. Northern Michigan meets Florida golf in that there is a lot of water.
tower912:
I recommend you try Lincoln Hills Golf Club in Ludington in 2025 . The course is semi-private so you can get tee times. Wind Dunes etc make it challenging from the back. I think you will enjoy it. Nice Club House after round. Somewhat of a hidden gem in the Michigan rota.
https://lincolnhillsgc.com/
Lexi Thompson moving to next chapter .
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/lexi-thompson-engaged/amp
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 02, 2025, 04:30:20 PMLexi Thompson moving to next chapter .
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/lexi-thompson-engaged/amp
You can still mash it to her, so you'll be fine
Nice start to season for Hideki. Morikowa a bridesmaid once again
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/hideki-matsuyama-cruises-11th-pga-tour-victory-at-2025-sentry-while-setting-new-scoring-record/amp
Looks like LIV reached a deal with Fox. I'm a bit surprised by that unless they really want some golf to televise.
Don't discuss politics.
Keegan needs to lose the mustache.
Is anybody seriously tempted by any shiny new toys? Willing to fix all of your golf problems by throwing money at them?
My golf problems cannot be fixed!!
My golf problem is that I think they CAN be fixed by buying new toys.
Quote from: tower912 on January 23, 2025, 02:06:34 PMMy golf problem is that I think they CAN be fixed by buying new toys.
I have a buddy who was a solid golfer, 10ish handicap. Wanted to get over the hump into the 7-8 range. Was CONVINCED he needed to be longer off the tee despite not having an exceptional short game, just serviceable. Spent a few grand on not one but 2 new drivers and fittings...couldn't hit them to save his life. Went from hitting a controllable slice/power fade in the 230-240s...to spraying 250+. He's went back to his original driver. Look forward to him doing the same thing with putters this summer instead of just hitting the practice green for hours.
I bought a Titleist GT2 in August and did find 10 yards and more fairways through the autumn. To the point that I may have sold a couple more as my buddies got serious cases of the covets. Two of them hit their longest drives of the year with my driver.
My last round of 2024 was on 12/27. I rolled in 50 feet of putts on the last two holes to shoot even. So, I don't NEED anything. But I am always checking.
Quote from: tower912 on January 23, 2025, 03:04:05 PMI bought a Titleist GT2 in August and did find 10 yards and more fairways through the autumn. To the point that I may have sold a couple more as my buddies got serious cases of the covets. Two of them hit their longest drives of the year with my driver.
My last round of 2024 was on 12/27. I rolled in 50 feet of putts on the last two holes to shoot even. So, I don't NEED anything. But I am always checking.
I played Augusta last weekend with Fred Ridley and he tried talking me out of buying the new Qi35. Thinks I should challenge myself hitting persimmon
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 23, 2025, 05:10:50 PMI played Augusta last weekend with Fred Ridley and he tried talking me out of buying the new Qi35. Thinks I should challenge myself hitting persimmon
How much damage from the hurricanes and ice storms?
Quote from: tower912 on January 23, 2025, 05:21:33 PMHow much damage from the hurricanes and ice storms?
16 was lost but it's fine. We played the tips and I didn't notice a big difference. Lost a bunch of trees but they've already been replaced
Not sure if anyone has been to Winter Park 9 in the Orlando area but just played it when I was down there for work. Tough little par 35 course, very tight, OB on pretty much every hole. Very difficult greens. Happy I managed a 40.
I also watched TGL for the first time last night. Fun concept and very entertaining. Love that the guys were miked up and loved the interaction with fans. Will definitely watch again
The wind is up at Pebble.
Can't wait to show the starter a picture of Jason Day next time I show up the golf course in sweatpants.
Dress codes on public courses are silly.
I mean, of course sloppy clothes are going to be judged. However, I get more pissed about slow players not understanding etiquette than I do about clothing choices.
Short game show at Pebble.
12,000 people watched LIV Golf on FS1
That many?
Spieth in the mix, finishing with a Spieth par. Be nice to see him compete again this year
Knost pointing out that the 24k spectators around the 16th hole is 12,000 X 2.
FULL SPIETH ON 11
Yealimi Noh just hit the stick from 130 on 12 in Bradenton. Bad luck.
Quote from: tower912 on February 09, 2025, 02:37:51 PMYealimi Noh just hit the stick from 130 on 12 in Bradenton. Bad luck.
Bad shot
LIV Gofl lost $394 million in 2023
https://awfulannouncing.com/golf/liv-suffered-staggering-financial-losses-2023.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=bluesky
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 15, 2025, 09:45:20 AMLIV Gofl lost $394 million in 2023
https://awfulannouncing.com/golf/liv-suffered-staggering-financial-losses-2023.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=bluesky
I'm surprised it wasn't more.
Golf update from Torrey
1. No one is hitting fairways
2. Rory can't putt
3. Guys flipping wedges from ankle deep rough and getting the ball to stop. Roll. The. Ball. Back.
4. Aberg had an ace
5. Torrey is pretty but blah as a course
Lotta bad golf this afternoon
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 15, 2025, 02:53:53 PM3. Guys flipping wedges from ankle deep rough and getting the ball to stop. Roll. The. Ball. Back.
If the greens are soggy, you can make a Warbird dance.
Amazing how we judge Scottie now. Only 2nd competitive outing of the year and 2 top-10's and feels disappointing somehow
Good to see potential Team Europe golfers racking up wins early in the season. Hope they can continue playing well though the Ryder Cup and retain it
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 16, 2025, 05:19:15 PMGood to see potential Team Europe golfers racking up wins early in the season. Hope they can continue playing well though the Ryder Cup and retain it
Were you also pulling for Canada last night?
What kind of pulling?
https://www.wisconsin.golf/courses/the-commons-a-12-hole-afternoon-course-will-be-sand-valleys-sixth-gem-when-it/article_82729f82-ee09-11ef-9602-0b8a0b12f1b8.html
Sand Valley adds more golf. What I love about new age golf design is the embrace of non-traditional design.
A 12-hole "afternoon" course on this property sounds amazing. The 17-hole par-3 course is already one of the neatest golf experiences you can have. Adding this to The Lido, Sand Valley, Sedge Valley and Mammoth Dunes just enhances what is a top-5 golf destination.
It's just too bad the waiting list is 2-years now to get reservations. Ah, well, Bandon will have to do in '26
Keegan Bradley could mess around and play his way onto the team. He says he would recuse himself as captain in that circumstance. Now THAT could create some buzz.
Brutal (and unlucky) finish for Morikawa at the Arnie today.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/44183077/russell-henley-chip-eagle-beats-collin-morikawa-bay-hill
Achilles surgery for Tiger.
9-9-9 still thinks he'll win the Masters next month.
Quote from: tower912 on March 11, 2025, 05:00:23 PMAchilles surgery for Tiger.
Too bad FIGJAM didn't have brain surgery
The Tour is lucky they have a reprieve from facing Tiger on Sundays.....for now.
JT goes in the water on 18 but still manages to tie a course record 62.
Spaun left his 30ft putt to win the Players 1 cup short. 3 hole playoff in the morning. My kid, talking to me... 'that looks like something you would do'. So he is out of the will again.
Love how the European team is shaping up for the Ryder Cup. Doubt they win 18.5 to 9.5 but not ruling it out
European Ryder Cup keeps stacking wins. JT with a massive gag down the stretch
At least Sergio missed a 3 foot putt that would have got him into the British Open.
Tosti is either the jolt of energy the tour needs or is going to get punched on course during a round.
Quote from: tower912 on March 30, 2025, 02:35:43 PMTosti is either the jolt of energy the tour needs or is going to get punched on course during a round.
Has a lot of Muggsy in him
Announcers so disingenuous about Min Woo having never won when he has a Scottish Open on his resume. That field was much deeper than this one
Never a doubt for Min Woo
Missed it due to tornado coverage.
Quote from: tower912 on March 30, 2025, 05:02:44 PMMissed it due to tornado coverage.
Scottie would have won this thing by half a dozen had he made any putts Saturday. Club short on 18, too
Min Woo didn't make it easy bogeying 16 but great putt at 18 to tap-in sealed it.
I would be shocked if any golf resort north of Cadillac is open for play before May 1.
Quote from: tower912 on April 04, 2025, 01:02:53 PMI would be shocked if any golf resort north of Cadillac is open for play before May 1.
As long as they are by July, I'm good and that's all I care about. Me.
Spaniard wins ANWA.
Fowler killer leads in Texas but the winds are whipping up to 35
Wind wreaking havoc in Texas but the Fowler killer holding as steady as he can with 2 holes to play.
Wasn't thrilled with the PGA of America making a "home course" to have the PGA at every 5 years or so, but a May PGA in Texas if the winds are up might be fun to watch
From Yahoo Sports:
For the 23rd consecutive year, the Pimento Cheese sandwich at the Masters will cost $1.50. The popular menu item cost $1 back in 1997, but factoring for inflation, the sandwich is actually 50 cents cheaper today.
I preferred the chicken salad which is equally low priced. The beer is also dirt cheap. As to the prices at the gift shop... :P
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And it's a money maker.
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Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on April 08, 2025, 01:36:32 PMI preferred the chicken salad which is equally low priced. The beer is also dirt cheap. As to the prices at the gift shop... :P
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And it's a money maker.
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Honestly, I didn't think the golf shop was too insane.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2025, 01:41:38 PMHonestly, I didn't think the golf shop was too insane.
That's because you have VIP access. You need to think more about the poors who hang out at Augusta National.
Quote from: The Sultan on April 08, 2025, 01:44:04 PMThat's because you have VIP access. You need to think more about the poors who hang out at Augusta National.
Like Jesus, I do hate poor people
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2025, 01:46:28 PMLike Jesus, I do hate poor people
"Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the Kingdom of God. But in the meantime, just stay away from me."
Quote from: The Sultan on April 08, 2025, 01:55:45 PM"Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the Kingdom of God. But in the meantime, just stay away from me."
As an evangelical, I haven't read the Bible, so I'll take your word for it
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2025, 01:41:38 PMHonestly, I didn't think the golf shop was too insane.
I'm guessing the Pro Shop has different prices than the merch tent the rest of us schlubs hope to some day get into
I went in 2008, so that's quite awhile ago.
I remember thinking that the food was ridiculously cheap and that the merch was about what one would expect given the event. I bought a couple of Bobby Jones-brand polos for around $75 each, a hat for about $20 and a few other things. Again, that was 17 years ago, but I didn't think those were outrageous.
OK, golf junkies, philosophical, existential question for you. Demo day today. I am in the market for a higher launching 3 wood. Two stood out. Both had a repeating ball flight. One is twice the price and 10 yards longer. Is stacking them up at 240 better twice as good as stacking them up at 230?
Quote from: tower912 on April 12, 2025, 03:34:06 PMOK, golf junkies, philosophical, existential question for you. Demo day today. I am in the market for a higher launching 3 wood. Two stood out. Both had a repeating ball flight. One is twice the price and 10 yards longer. Is stacking them up at 240 better twice as good as stacking them up at 230?
230
Quote from: tower912 on April 12, 2025, 03:34:06 PMOK, golf junkies, philosophical, existential question for you. Demo day today. I am in the market for a higher launching 3 wood. Two stood out. Both had a repeating ball flight. One is twice the price and 10 yards longer. Is stacking them up at 240 better twice as good as stacking them up at 230?
Nope.
Quote from: tower912 on April 12, 2025, 03:34:06 PMOK, golf junkies, philosophical, existential question for you. Demo day today. I am in the market for a higher launching 3 wood. Two stood out. Both had a repeating ball flight. One is twice the price and 10 yards longer. Is stacking them up at 240 better twice as good as stacking them up at 230?
Buy two of the more expensive model, just in case one snaps after one of your powerful swings.
I have played Harbor Town many times. I have yet to use a pw or 9i, on my 2nd shot to the green, from the tips. Or the whites for that matter. :(
Been a long time since JT got a win.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 20, 2025, 05:08:42 PMI have played Harbor Town many times. I have yet to use a pw or 9i, on my 2nd shot to the green, from the tips. Or the whites for that matter. :(
Not many holes at Harbor Town I don't have wedge or 9iron in from the whites after my drive
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 20, 2025, 05:36:15 PMNot many holes at Harbor Town I don't have wedge or 9iron in from the whites after my drive AND MY TOPPED SECOND AND FATTED THIRD.
Fify.
Though to be fair, it is only 6239 from the white tees. Hit your tee shots straight, and yeah, lots of 8-9 irons and wedges.
Quote from: tower912 on April 20, 2025, 05:40:14 PMFify.
I'm a greens in regulation machine. Golf is only as hard as you make it
Amen. Although, for me it is more fun to piss off my buddies by getting up and down from the ballwasher. That is why, even though I am usually an 'A' player in scrambles, I am a lousy scramble partner.
Quote from: tower912 on April 20, 2025, 05:40:14 PMFify.
Though to be fair, it is only 6239 from the white tees. Hit your tee shots straight, and yeah, lots of 8-9 irons and wedges.
I haven't played the whites in some time but 18 is a long par 4.
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 20, 2025, 05:12:00 PMBeen a long time since JT got a win.
When that putt went in, he looked up and said, "Eat it, Rico!"
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 20, 2025, 05:41:13 PMI'm a greens in regulation machine. Golf is only as hard as you make it
Some people don't have pinpoint accuracy like you do. Or the right temperament.
The finishing hole at the Chevron Championship is a disgrace to golf
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 27, 2025, 05:34:54 PMThe finishing hole at the Chevron Championship is a disgrace to golf
What happened?
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 27, 2025, 06:54:06 PMSaigo is 5'3. :)
Jutanugarn stabbed a chip on 18 in regulation and bogeyed when a par would have won. Brutal
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 27, 2025, 07:46:09 PMJutanugarn stabbed a chip on 18 in regulation and bogeyed when a par would have won. Brutal
Whoops! That hurts.
Why many (most?) "traditions" are stoopid, Part 842 ...
Mao Saigo of Japan won the Chevron Championship on Sunday in a historic five-way playoff to claim her first LPGA major title. Then things turned scary.
It's tournament tradition for the champion to jump into the lake off the 18th green. So that's what Saigo did — only she can't swim and didn't realize the water was that deep.
"I thought I was going to drown," said Saigo, who struggled to tread water. "It was scary," added her caddie, who was part of a second wave of jumpers. "Every time I broke the surface, I got pulled under again. They were trying to grab someone."
Thankfully, everyone made it back to dry land and Saigo was able to celebrate her victory (and $1.2 million payday) in a white robe and slippers, as is also tradition.
(Yahoo Sports)