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MuggsyB

Quote from: panda on June 06, 2023, 12:09:56 PM
The real clown in this equation is Monaghan. He shouldn't earn a penny from this starting with his 9/11 comments to selling out.

I forgot exactly what he said but wasn't it more or less that the players that left have been living under a rock if they don't understand the impact of 9/11?  I recall Nantz asking him about it and Monaghan was seemingly very forceful with his disgust of those bolting for LIV as well as LIV in general. 

The Sultan

Monaghan's comments were always about protecting his own turf against a threat rather than any moral issues over 9/11.  That's why it looks so silly now.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

...but it looks good on you....
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Spaniel with a Short Tail

I'm as surprised as anyone and waiting for the details. Don't want to rush to judgment. (If there's anything I've learned from Scoop it's 5 years to judge.) I did see some blurb about the team concept being part of this deal. That's a head scratcher.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 06, 2023, 12:24:17 PM
I forgot exactly what he said but wasn't it more or less that the players that left have been living under a rock if they don't understand the impact of 9/11?  I recall Nantz asking him about it and Monaghan was seemingly very forceful with his disgust of those bolting for LIV as well as LIV in general.

https://twitter.com/joshacarpenter/status/1666130243931844624?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q

Selling out is easy when you're rich
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tower912

#480
I am generally optimistic, glass half full, etc.   I feel somewhere between Joey Hauser setting a screen against Brad Davison and Joey playing help defense against Ja Morant.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

I rarely watch "regular" PGA Tour events, so this won't change anything for me in that regard. But I love the majors, especially on the Sunday of a closely contested one. It's too early for me to figure out what this all means as far as whether I'll continue watching those; need more details.

I really enjoyed watching this past Sunday's LPGA finish, with Rose Zhang winning her debut event. She could be golf's next Tiger Woods, and that's pretty exciting.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

jesmu84

Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 06, 2023, 11:08:38 AM
  i'm assuming you have boycotted anything Chinese too?  even the underbritches you wear are made in china.  unless torturing and butchering muslims are ok in your world

Bruh. The USA has been doing this for decades

Uncle Rico

Quote from: jesmu84 on June 06, 2023, 01:11:04 PM
Bruh. The USA has been doing this for decades

Now, if the tour has Budweiser or Target as a sponsor, well, that's different
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MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 06, 2023, 01:13:37 PM
Now, if the tour has Budweiser or Target as a sponsor, well, that's different

Or Chik-fil-A now, apparently.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

jesmu84


tower912

#486
The Shark was blinsided, too.  OK, that makes me laugh.




How will this affect the CW?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on June 06, 2023, 01:57:51 PM
The Shark was blinsided, too.  OK, that makes me laugh.

I told my son that hopefully the only good that comes out of this is that Greg Norman is told to go to hell.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on June 06, 2023, 02:23:07 PM
I told my son that hopefully the only good that comes out of this is that Greg Norman is told to go to hell.

LIV is dead.  Saudi's don't need it anymore.  They're in the game
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rocket surgeon

Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 06, 2023, 11:32:22 AM
Rocket has made it clear he doesn't believe golf is gentlemanly

  you're such a loser-you don't know a damn thing about me and my attitude toward golf
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 06, 2023, 02:50:55 PM
  you're such a loser-you don't know a damn thing about me and my attitude toward golf

No, you've made it abundantly clear
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ChitownSpaceForRent

This sucks on so many levels. Monaghan is such a hypocrite, Sauidis can continue their global sports washing.

tower912

#492
Monahan being trashed by players and media.

On the other hand, LIV is out of business and the defectors are not immediately back on tour.    How much $ do the defectors have to return?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on June 06, 2023, 05:06:55 PM
Monahan being trashed by players and media.

Will the LIV guys even come back?  One of the reasons they left was so they could have more family time.  Cam Smith was pretty adamant about how great it was to spend more time with his mates in Australia.  Can't imagine he'll want to grind on tour again
Guster is for Lovers

tower912

Initial reports are that the European LIV players will not be eligible for the Ryder Cup.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on June 06, 2023, 05:20:51 PM
Initial reports are that the European LIV players will not be eligible for the Ryder Cup.

Off the top of my head, so?  Sergio, I guess?  Casey?
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tower912

Yeah, not a huge loss.   Long term, captaincies?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on June 06, 2023, 05:26:31 PM
Yeah, not a huge loss.   Long term, captaincies?

They'll get them now.  Ryder Cup in Jeddha will be amazing
Guster is for Lovers

WhiteTrash

Quote from: tower912 on June 06, 2023, 05:06:55 PM
Monahan being trashed by players and media.

On the other hand, LIV is out of business and the defectors are not immediately back on tour.    How much $ do the defectors have to return?
I'd guess  they will return about $0.

MuggsyB

Could PGA membership dismiss Monaghan? 

I heard about a minute snippet of the guy and was not remotely impressed by anything he said. 

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