Golf 2025

[Herman Cain]

Tiger ecstatic about where he is at in his return to golf. 

https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2023/12/3/23986618/tiger-woods-ecstatic-golf-return-hero-world-challenge

[cheebs09]

Tiger ecstatic about where he is at in his return to golf. 

https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2023/12/3/23986618/tiger-woods-ecstatic-golf-return-hero-world-challenge

I'm guessing he's ecstatic just to be walking.

[tower912]

The golf ball rollback requires a 15 yard rollback at 127 mph swing speed.     Now, how many here have a 127 mph swing speed?     Yeah.    Me neither.    Mr. 95 mph raises his hand sheepishly.     However, the technology of golf balls has evolved to where golf ball manufacturers make different golf balls for different swing speeds.     Callaway, Wilson, Srixon, Taylor Made, most on-line only brands, etc.,  have golf balls designed to maximize distance for those with 90 mph swings.     They also will tell you that gain is minimized if you swing 105 mph.   Fast swingers won't see the same gains with a low compression golf ball as slow swingers do.   Or so the manufacturers say.   
    What I think this means is that manufacturers are still going to be making balls that don't adversely affect slow swingers as much as the players who swing as the professionals.     The pros will see a 15 yard drop, I predict that the 95 yard swinger will see a 5 yard drop.     And that may be able to be mitigated with loft and shaft choices.   
   

If it goes through.    I think the blowback will be too intense and chicks still dig the long ball.  (90's MLB reference)

[Uncle Rico]

The golf ball rollback requires a 15 yard rollback at 127 mph swing speed.     Now, how many here have a 127 mph ball speed?     Yeah.    Me neither.    Mr. 95 mph raises his hand sheepishly.     However, the technology of golf balls has evolved to where golf ball manufacturers make different golf balls for different swing speeds.     Callaway, Wilson, Srixon, Taylor Made, most on-line only brands, etc.,  have golf balls designed to maximize distance for those with 90 mph swings.     They also will tell you that gain is minimized if you swing 105 mph.   Fast swingers won't see the same gains with a low compression golf ball as slow swingers do.   Or so the manufacturers say.   
    What I think this means is that manufacturers are still going to be making balls that don't adversely affect slow swingers as much as the players who swing as the professionals.     The pros will see a 15 yard drop, I predict that the 95 yard swinger will see a 5 yard drop.     And that may be able to be mitigated with loft and shaft choices.   
   

If it goes through.    I think the blowback will be too intense and chicks still dig the long ball.  (90's MLB reference)

Tiger and Rory are for it. 

Done deal

[RJax55]

Tiger and Rory are for it. 

Done deal

Beyond tired of hearing Rory's opinions.

[Uncle Rico]

Beyond tired of hearing Rory's opinions.

Lot of people feel that way, but his opinion still carries a lot of weight

[RJax55]

The golf ball rollback requires a 15 yard rollback at 127 mph swing speed.     Now, how many here have a 127 mph swing speed?     Yeah.    Me neither.    Mr. 95 mph raises his hand sheepishly.     However, the technology of golf balls has evolved to where golf ball manufacturers make different golf balls for different swing speeds.     Callaway, Wilson, Srixon, Taylor Made, most on-line only brands, etc.,  have golf balls designed to maximize distance for those with 90 mph swings.     They also will tell you that gain is minimized if you swing 105 mph.   Fast swingers won't see the same gains with a low compression golf ball as slow swingers do.   Or so the manufacturers say.   
    What I think this means is that manufacturers are still going to be making balls that don't adversely affect slow swingers as much as the players who swing as the professionals.     The pros will see a 15 yard drop, I predict that the 95 yard swinger will see a 5 yard drop.     And that may be able to be mitigated with loft and shaft choices.   
   

If it goes through.    I think the blowback will be too intense and chicks still dig the long ball.  (90's MLB reference)

If I remember correctly, you play the Wilson Staff Duo, right? If so, both the past and current models are likely to conform to the new rule without any changes.

I'm no fan of the ruling. In the world of recreation golf (which is played by 98% of all golfers), distance is nowhere near the game's leading issues. Between this ball rollback and the utter cluster occurring with the pro tours, the game's "leaders" seem to be hellbent on significantly denting golf's popularity in the next 5-10 years.

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If I remember correctly, you play the Wilson Staff Duo, right? If so, both the past and current models are likely to conform to the new rule without any changes.

I'm no fan of the ruling. In the world of recreation golf (which is played by 98% of all golfers), distance is nowhere near the game's leading issues. Between this ball rollback and the utter cluster occurring with the pro tours, the game's "leaders" seem to be hellbent on significantly denting golf's popularity in the next 5-10 years.

Could've just bifurcated, but we can't have nice things.

[tower912]

I have in the past.   I played many different balls over the lastcouple of years.   And your thoughts parallel mine.

And who knows, maybe the governing bodies ARE trying to get the casual weekend booze hounds out of the game.

My question about bifurcation is where does the line get drawn?  High School tournaments?  USGA junior tourneys?   County amateurs?

[RJax55]

Could've just bifurcated, but we can't have nice things.

Nope. The stewards of the game seem hell bent on making poor decisions and alienating people. Oh well.

[RJax55]

Lot of people feel that way, but his opinion still carries a lot of weight

I got a good laugh at him saying that the average guy isn't going to miss 5-10 yards off the tee. I'll remember that when I see his next TaylorMade driver ad, lol.

[tower912]

IMO, you will see more graphite shafts, a little less stiff, with more stable heads/faces, combined with lower compression golf balls.   Yup, it will cost you, but I think it will be possible to largely negate it for the average Joe.

[Uncle Rico]

Nope. The stewards of the game seem hell bent on making poor decisions and alienating people. Oh well.

Which is good.  We need to shrink the game

[RJax55]

Which is good.  We need to shrink the game

Father time was going to do that anyway with the end of the boomers.

[Uncle Rico]

Father time was going to do that anyway with the end of the boomers.

Thank god

[Lennys Tap]

I'm guessing he's ecstatic just to be walking.

He ecstatic his ex wife missed when she swung the 9 iron.

[Uncle Rico]

He ecstatic his ex wife missed when she swung the 9 iron.

I wonder

[Pakuni]

Jon Rahm off to LIV in a deal worth $450-$600 million.
Good money, if you can get it.

https://www.wsj.com/sports/golf/jon-rahm-liv-pga-tour-2341016e

[Uncle Rico]

Jon Rahm off to LIV in a deal worth $450-$600 million.
Good money, if you can get it.

https://www.wsj.com/sports/golf/jon-rahm-liv-pga-tour-2341016e

Men's professional golf outside the majors is going the way of tennis and IRL/Cart before it.

Niche sport going to become an albatross to show on TV.  Arnold Palmer, where have you gone?

[tower912]

While.golfing today, I realized that the golf ball rollback will make.my summer.yardages look like my spring and fall yardages.   I can manage that.

[RJax55]

Men's professional golf outside the majors is going the way of tennis and IRL/Cart before it.

Niche sport going to become an albatross to show on TV.  Arnold Palmer, where have you gone?

Yep. The majors and the Ryder Cup.

Beyond sad what has happened in the pro game. I haven't watch a second of men's golf since The British Open. Good chance I will not watch until The Masters. How Jay Monahan still has a job is quite something.

[Uncle Rico]

Yep. The majors and the Ryder Cup.

Beyond sad what has happened in the pro game. I haven't watch a second of men's golf since The British Open. Good chance I will not watch until The Masters. How Jay Monahan still has a job is quite something.

https://x.com/daniel_rapaport/status/1732817218264834443?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q

Truly incredible.

[Herman Cain]

Yep. The majors and the Ryder Cup.

Beyond sad what has happened in the pro game. I haven't watch a second of men's golf since The British Open. Good chance I will not watch until The Masters. How Jay Monahan still has a job is quite something.

https://www.si.com/golf/news/pga-tour-tournament-officials-see-trouble-ahead-as-costs-spiral

[Goose]

Rahm to LIV really is disappointing to me. Sad day in golf, IMO.

[tower912]

It pisses me off and will diminish the PGA tour.    It is still not enough to make me watch, or even care about, LIV.