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Title: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: The Big East on November 26, 2020, 05:51:36 PM
Looks like Sam and Joey got off to good starts yesterday . Both filled up the stat sheets and were very efficient in their shooting .
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on November 26, 2020, 05:54:56 PM
 ::)
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Post by: Jockey on November 26, 2020, 05:57:39 PM
WHO CARES???
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Post by: tower912 on November 26, 2020, 06:10:08 PM
Moved on.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on November 26, 2020, 06:18:47 PM
WHO CARES???

FIFY
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Post by: Johnny B on November 26, 2020, 06:44:41 PM
WHO CARES???
u clicked  :o
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: dgies9156 on November 26, 2020, 10:10:52 PM
Who are the Hausers?

Why do we care about them?

Is Wojo recruiting some kid named Hauser?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 27, 2020, 08:31:30 AM
Neil Patrick Harris doing a reboot?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MUBurrow on November 27, 2020, 09:07:37 AM
I know we can't hang on their every game, and I say this without any commentary on the coaching staff or current players, but you guys really didn't give the UVA or MSU box scores a passing click to see how the Hausers did?  I'll cop to keeping a sideways glance at how they do all year.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: WithoutBias on November 27, 2020, 11:46:23 AM
The elder letter writer is 1-6 today. 0 assists, which is wild for a guy who left because he wanted to play basketball “the right way.”

UVA was down 4 to San Francisco with about 15 minutes left. The letter writer was sent to the bench and UVA has been on an 10-0 run since.

Sad!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: WithoutBias on November 27, 2020, 12:05:00 PM
Update. The elder scored a few times since coming back in, but UVA had seen the 5 point lead they built with him on the bench turn into a 3 point deficit.

Who is this USF coach? He looks like a high schooler.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on November 27, 2020, 12:19:36 PM
Update. The elder scored a few times since coming back in, but UVA had seen the 5 point lead they built with him on the bench turn into a 3 point deficit.

Who is this USF coach? He looks like a high schooler.

Todd Golden, he's only 35. He's a protege of Kyle Smith, former USF coach and now HC at Washington State.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: WithoutBias on November 27, 2020, 12:23:18 PM
Wide open 3 for Sammy boy to win it. Left it short. Sad.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 27, 2020, 01:10:57 PM
I know we can't hang on their every game, and I say this without any commentary on the coaching staff or current players, but you guys really didn't give the UVA or MSU box scores a passing click to see how the Hausers did?  I'll cop to keeping a sideways glance at how they do all year.
I watched MSU's game because I like MSU and they were playing my daughter's alma mater.   I did not have any reaction to Joey's crap first half or second half bounce back.   Just didn't care.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 27, 2020, 01:19:29 PM
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3123051/college-hoops-gets-its-first-major-upset-of-the-year-down-goes-no.-4-virginia-and-its-completely-dogcrap-offense
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 27, 2020, 01:28:06 PM
No Markus to create space for an open shooter.  And Sam was drifting to his left on that shot.   Not fundamentally sound.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Ardmore Mug on November 27, 2020, 01:55:08 PM
Maybe it was the Gold colored uniforms that distracted him??? 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on November 27, 2020, 02:40:27 PM
No Markus to create space for an open shooter.  And Sam was drifting to his left on that shot.   Not fundamentally sound.

Also looked like he took 3 steps?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on November 27, 2020, 03:20:53 PM
Sam 5 -11 from the field in the loss to the Dons . 6 boards and 3 turnovers.

Missing the last shot obviously sucked for Sam. Hard to tell from the replay, but it looked like he had enough time to step in and square up. I guess Sam thought it was like the Creighton game with very little time left, so he fired it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on November 27, 2020, 06:00:08 PM
Todd Golden, he's only 35. He's a protege of Kyle Smith, former USF coach and now HC at Washington State.

He’s a name to watch. He’s really solid. USF has been solid since Smith got there and they are gonna be a tourney team out of the WCC this year I think
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 27, 2020, 06:14:03 PM
He’s a name to watch. He’s really solid. USF has been solid since Smith got there and they are gonna be a tourney team out of the WCC this year I think

That’s a deep conference this year.  Zags are going to earn their title. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: We R Final Four on November 27, 2020, 07:44:31 PM
Sam 5 -11 from the field in the loss to the Dons . 6 boards and 3 turnovers.

Missing the last shot obviously sucked for Sam. Hard to tell from the replay, but it looked like he had enough time to step in and square up. I guess Sam thought it was like the Creighton game with very little time left, so he fired it.
I don’t know who was more disappointed by the missed last second shot.....Sam or Trump?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 27, 2020, 09:12:46 PM
That’s a deep conference this year.  Zags are going to earn their title.

It's about time. What they'll go through three or four teams that are several notches below them this year instead of the usual 1 or 2?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 27, 2020, 10:37:47 PM
It's about time. What they'll go through three or four teams that are several notches below them this year instead of the usual 1 or 2?

I’ll never dismiss Gonzaga.  They play as good a schedule as they can. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on November 27, 2020, 11:25:00 PM
I’ll never dismiss Gonzaga.  They play as good a schedule as they can.

I always dismiss them. They’re overrated every year. The one thing they have going for them is they’ll go like 28-2, win their conference Tourney, and get at worst a 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament, which keeps them out West, which is almost always the weakest region since most of the top teams are coming from the East and Midwest, so it always ends up being the worst of each top 4 seed gets sent out West.

Suggs makes this year different for them. He is the highest level talent that program has ever seen. And with no typical Kentucky or Duke level team this year, this is as good of a shot as they’ll ever have.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 27, 2020, 11:34:53 PM
I always dismiss them. They’re overrated every year. The one thing they have going for them is they’ll go like 28-2, win their conference Tourney, and get at worst a 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament, which keeps them out West, which is almost always the weakest region since most of the top teams are coming from the East and Midwest, so it always ends up being the worst of each top 4 seed gets sent out West.

Suggs makes this year different for them. He is the highest level talent that program has ever seen. And with no typical Kentucky or Duke level team this year, this is as good of a shot as they’ll ever have.

That Zags team that lost in the title game to UNC was really, really good.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on November 28, 2020, 12:28:17 AM
I always dismiss them. They’re overrated every year. The one thing they have going for them is they’ll go like 28-2, win their conference Tourney, and get at worst a 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament, which keeps them out West, which is almost always the weakest region since most of the top teams are coming from the East and Midwest, so it always ends up being the worst of each top 4 seed gets sent out West.

Suggs makes this year different for them. He is the highest level talent that program has ever seen. And with no typical Kentucky or Duke level team this year, this is as good of a shot as they’ll ever have.

They’ve been to at least the Sweet 16 the past 5 NCAA tournaments snd haven’t lost to a higher seed since 2013 (Final Four participant Wichita State)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 28, 2020, 12:45:44 AM
They’ve been to at least the Sweet 16 the past 5 NCAA tournaments snd haven’t lost to a higher seed since 2013 (Final Four participant Wichita State)

I think that's his point... "The one thing they have going for them is they’ll go like 28-2, win their conference Tourney, and get at worst a 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament, which keeps them out West, which is almost always the weakest region"
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on November 28, 2020, 01:21:25 AM
I think that's his point... "The one thing they have going for them is they’ll go like 28-2, win their conference Tourney, and get at worst a 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament, which keeps them out West, which is almost always the weakest region"

Actually, since 2013 they have been 8, 2, 11, 4, 1 seeds. They load up in non-conference, and strong armed the WCC to drop to 16 conference games.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 28, 2020, 02:54:12 AM
Actually, since 2013 they have been 8, 2, 11, 4, 1 seeds. They load up in non-conference, and strong armed the WCC to drop to 16 conference games.

Hold, on, lets go with your original "They’ve been to at least the Sweet 16 the past 5 NCAA tournaments"..

'18-'19 - 1 seed, E8
'17-'18 - 4 seed, S16
'16-'17 - 1 seed, Runner up
'15-'16 - 11 seed, S16
'14-15 - 2 seed, E8

So really, 2, 11, 1, 4, 1.  So the 11 seed year when they weren't favored they beat SHU, Utah, and lost to Cuse.  Over-seeded or not, they've generally gotten a favorable seed, and been in the weak west. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on November 28, 2020, 01:08:17 PM
Izzo understands how to coach showed Joey that he has to play Izzos way or bench . Joey adapted to Izzos way.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2020/11/26/michigan-state-basketball-joshua-langford-returns-joey-hauser-debuts/6431650002/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on November 28, 2020, 09:06:34 PM
Joey Hauser with 10 Points 16 boards and 4 assists in the Spartans win over The Irish.

Joey averaging a double double so far in the first two games.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 28, 2020, 11:21:22 PM
Hold, on, lets go with your original "They’ve been to at least the Sweet 16 the past 5 NCAA tournaments"..

'18-'19 - 1 seed, E8
'17-'18 - 4 seed, S16
'16-'17 - 1 seed, Runner up
'15-'16 - 11 seed, S16
'14-15 - 2 seed, E8

So really, 2, 11, 1, 4, 1.  So the 11 seed year when they weren't favored they beat SHU, Utah, and lost to Cuse.  Over-seeded or not, they've generally gotten a favorable seed, and been in the weak west.

The NCAA moves teams around to balance the regions. The West (geographically) may have the weakest teams but it’s not necessarily the weakest regional year in and year out.

Gonzaga has 15 NCAA tournament wins in the last 5 years. How many teams have more?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 29, 2020, 07:37:17 AM
Izzo understands how to coach showed Joey that he has to play Izzos way or bench . Joey adapted to Izzos way.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2020/11/26/michigan-state-basketball-joshua-langford-returns-joey-hauser-debuts/6431650002/

That also means keeping your mouth shut when your teammates commit a crime, the Sparty And Izzo Way
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 29, 2020, 08:55:11 AM
ND was dreadful.   Offense was all one on one and jack the first open 3.  Went zone.  Izzo stuck Joey at the foul line.   They got him the ball there easily and he made plays from there.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 29, 2020, 09:02:08 AM
ND was dreadful.   Offense was all one on one and jack the first open 3.  Went zone.  Izzo stuck Joey at the foul line.   They got him the ball there easily and he made plays from there.

What happened to Brey I feel like his teams have just fallen apart recently.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on November 29, 2020, 09:38:06 AM
Good Article on MSU vs Notre Dame. Nice Headline for Joey.

 https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2020/11/28/michigan-state-basketball-score-notre-dame/6454432002/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on November 29, 2020, 09:39:23 AM
ND sucks
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Post by: brewcity77 on November 29, 2020, 09:56:53 AM
What happened to Brey I feel like his teams have just fallen apart recently.

Honestly don't know. Recruiting hasn't changed much, usually in the 25-50 range with the occasional top-20 or sub-100 class. Their offense has fallen off, but I'm not sure exactly why. Maybe Prentiss Hubb just isn't as good a lead guard as guys they've had in the past. They had 13 of 16 seasons with top-30 offenses, but this is the fourth straight season they've been outside the top-30.

It might just be the strengthening of the ACC. Louisville and Syracuse are tough to compete with, and the rise of programs like Virginia and Florida State just leaves less room in the top-half for a program like ND. The Irish were always a bit different in that most slow-down teams had defense as their calling card. Maybe that blueprint just isn't working as well as the game modernizes.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 29, 2020, 10:06:47 AM
Honestly don't know. Recruiting hasn't changed much, usually in the 25-50 range with the occasional top-20 or sub-100 class. Their offense has fallen off, but I'm not sure exactly why. Maybe Prentiss Hubb just isn't as good a lead guard as guys they've had in the past. They had 13 of 16 seasons with top-30 offenses, but this is the fourth straight season they've been outside the top-30.

It might just be the strengthening of the ACC. Louisville and Syracuse are tough to compete with, and the rise of programs like Virginia and Florida State just leaves less room in the top-half for a program like ND. The Irish were always a bit different in that most slow-down teams had defense as their calling card. Maybe that blueprint just isn't working as well as the game modernizes.

It’s their talent IMO. Right now Cannaughton is their only alum in the NBA and he graduated in 2015.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 29, 2020, 10:16:26 AM
It’s their talent IMO. Right now Cannaughton is their only alum in the NBA and he graduated in 2015.

Jerian grants on the wizards

But not sure NBA players correlate with their success. the Shrek twins (Cooley and Harangody) never amounted to more than a small cup of coffee in the NBA but they were some of the better college players in the country during their Tenure
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on November 29, 2020, 10:52:42 AM
Jerian grants on the wizards

But not sure NBA players correlate with their success. the Shrek twins (Cooley and Harangody) never amounted to more than a small cup of coffee in the NBA but they were some of the better college players in the country during their Tenure

Brey always did it mostly with guys that were just off the NBA radar. Tim Abromaitis, Ben Hansbrough, Zach Auguste, Bonzie Colson, Demetrius Jackson, he had a lot of guys that were really good college players but weren't long-time NBA pros. Not sure why he doesn't seem to be having the same success unearthing those guys, but quite a few of their best players were 2/3 stars that blossomed in college. Maybe it's just difficult relying on that much development, especially as players who aren't getting minutes are becoming more likely to seek better opportunities through transfer.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 29, 2020, 10:56:58 AM
Brey always did it mostly with guys that were just off the NBA radar. Tim Abromaitis, Ben Hansbrough, Zach Auguste, Bonzie Colson, Demetrius Jackson, he had a lot of guys that were really good college players but weren't long-time NBA pros. Not sure why he doesn't seem to be having the same success unearthing those guys, but quite a few of their best players were 2/3 stars that blossomed in college. Maybe it's just difficult relying on that much development, especially as players who aren't getting minutes are becoming more likely to seek better opportunities through transfer.

The back to back E8’s in 2015 and 2016 are pretty much outliers. In his 20 years at ND he’s only been to one other S16. Maybe he just isn’t as good as we think.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 29, 2020, 11:44:36 AM
Sparty had a 26-2 run spanning the end of the first half and the start of the second half.   During that time, ND never ran a set other than pass around the perimeter and shoot the first open 3 or pass the ball into the post and stand around.   MSU figured it out, clamped down on their defense and got their transition game going   at the same time, against the ND zone, Izzo put Joey at the foul line.   NDs zone was passive.   MSU kept feeding Joey.  He immediately looked to the low block and hit Kithier.   Zone busted.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 29, 2020, 11:47:33 AM
Sparty had a 26-2 run spanning the end of the first half and the start of the second half.   During that time, ND never ran a set other than pass around the perimeter and shoot the first open 3 or pass the ball into the post and stand around.   MSU figured it out, clamped down on their defense and got their transition game going   at the same time, against the ND zone, Izzo put Joey at the foul line.   NDs zone was passive.   MSU kept feeding Joey.  He immediately looked to the low block and hit Kithier.   Zone busted.

Yeah that ND team is bad. They came out with a lot of energy and made shots early. MSU did what a good team and all time coach do. Adjusted and it got ugly really fast.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on November 29, 2020, 07:42:36 PM
MSU beat writer likes the team, but says big test coming up versus Duke and Virginia

https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/columnists/graham-couch/2020/11/28/msu-basketball-michigan-state-notre-dame-three-quick-takes-couch-column/6443528002/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 29, 2020, 07:51:48 PM
MSU beat writer likes the team, but says big test coming up versus Duke and Virginia

https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/columnists/graham-couch/2020/11/28/msu-basketball-michigan-state-notre-dame-three-quick-takes-couch-column/6443528002/

Wow. Some analysis there.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 30, 2020, 05:15:18 AM
Wow. Some analysis there.

Graham Couch makes Jeff Potrykus blush
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 01, 2020, 08:40:34 PM
Joey with another double double for MSU 
11 points and 10 boards . He did foul out though . Big win for MSU over Duke
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 02, 2020, 07:11:44 AM
Joey with another double double for MSU 
11 points and 10 boards . He did foul out though . Big win for MSU over Duke

Ah, so basically what he was doing when he was here. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jables1604 on December 02, 2020, 09:47:32 AM
Ah, so basically what he was doing when he was here.
Almost typed the exact same thing.

Let’s see what happens when he has his first few games when he perceives he didn’t get enough shots. First will come the pouting, then his defense will start slacking off.

IMHO he’s one and done at MSU. Not because he’ll be NBA ready but because of his complete lack of humility and maturity.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Silent Verbal on December 02, 2020, 09:49:55 AM
Almost typed the exact same thing.

Let’s see what happens when he has his first few games when he perceives he didn’t get enough shots. First will come the pouting, then his defense will start slacking off.

IMHO he’s one and done at MSU. Not because he’ll be NBA ready but because of his complete lack of humility and maturity.

What’s it like to see the world through blue and gold colored glasses?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on December 02, 2020, 09:55:07 AM
What’s it like to see the world through blue and gold colored glasses?

What's it like to lay biblically with an elephant?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Silent Verbal on December 02, 2020, 11:17:22 AM
What's it like to lay biblically with an elephant?

Probably nothing compared to what it’s like to lay with Kevin Willard.  How is he, by the way, is he any good?  Any interesting pillow talk about the Seton Hall program you’d care to share?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 02, 2020, 03:29:57 PM
Almost typed the exact same thing.

Let’s see what happens when he has his first few games when he perceives he didn’t get enough shots. First will come the pouting, then his defense will start slacking off.

IMHO he’s one and done at MSU. Not because he’ll be NBA ready but because of his complete lack of humility and maturity.

well, he made it one year not playing and survived just fine.  And, it isn't one player taking all of the shots and being given carte blanche to do whatever the hell he wants. Plus, MSU is a top 5 team. Joey will be just fine.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 02, 2020, 03:43:38 PM
Plus, and I have watched their games, every time he starts to do something for Joey, Izzo pulls him.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on December 02, 2020, 05:50:19 PM
Probably nothing compared to what it’s like to lay with Kevin Willard.  How is he, by the way, is he any good?  Any interesting pillow talk about the Seton Hall program you’d care to share?

Does a transmission drop? Or slide? 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 02, 2020, 09:51:18 PM
Plus, and I have watched their games, every time he starts to do something for Joey, Izzo pulls him.

But he did leave him in there long enough to get a double/double and lead the team to its first win ever at Duke. So there’s that...
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on December 03, 2020, 04:33:33 AM
But he did leave him in there long enough to get a double/double and lead the team to its first win ever at Duke. So there’s that...
I wouldn't say he lead the team, that would have been either Henry or Watts.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 03, 2020, 06:12:45 AM
But he did leave him in there long enough to get a double/double and lead the team to its first win ever at Duke. So there’s that...
He made his first 3 of the year against Duke, so good on him.  MSU is crazy deep and Izzo is using them all.  And every time I have seen Joey make a selfish or lazy play, Izzo yanks him.   As Wojo should have.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 03, 2020, 06:22:36 AM
Sam Hauser has another efficient game in UVA win over USF

Sam is shooting 63 percent from the field with 44 percent from 3 point range
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on December 03, 2020, 06:34:13 AM
I wouldn't say he lead the team, that would have been either Henry or Watts.

And it’s not like Michigan State plays at Duke every year.

But hey, if we can find a way to make Wojo look bad, let’s sensationalize the fact that MSU FINALLY got that ever elusive win at Duke. Thank God the knight in shining armor showed up, Joseph Hauser.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 03, 2020, 07:26:50 AM
Joey appears to be playing more of a center/power forward role, not the juggernaut point forward/perimeter role he was being touted for at MU.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 03, 2020, 07:36:29 AM
Joey appears to be playing more of a center/power forward role, not the juggernaut point forward/perimeter role he was being touted for at MU.

That's what happens when the coach has the power.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on December 03, 2020, 08:15:10 AM
Did he not get the start this past game?  ESPN box score shows him coming off the bench.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: dgies9156 on December 03, 2020, 08:32:34 AM
Sparty had a 26-2 run spanning the end of the first half and the start of the second half.   During that time, ND never ran a set other than pass around the perimeter and shoot the first open 3 or pass the ball into the post and stand around.   MSU figured it out, clamped down on their defense and got their transition game going   at the same time, against the ND zone, Izzo put Joey at the foul line.   NDs zone was passive.   MSU kept feeding Joey.  He immediately looked to the low block and hit Kithier.   Zone busted.

Gee, was anybody watching in our basketball office?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 03, 2020, 08:40:19 AM
The Notre Dame zone was more akin to the Pine Bluff zone.    Very passive.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jables1604 on December 03, 2020, 08:41:23 AM
What’s it like to see the world through blue and gold colored glasses?
Probably about as clear as someone whose dislike of Wojo prevents them from being objective.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 04, 2020, 08:48:47 PM
Joey 10 and 5 in close game versus Detroit Mercy. It is pretty clear Izzo has Joey on a Relatively tight leash
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2020, 08:49:45 PM
Joey 10 and 5 in close game versus Detroit Mercy. It is pretty clear Izzo has Joey on a Relatively tight leash

He’s sharpening his pencil as we speak.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 04, 2020, 08:50:17 PM
Every time he puts Joey first, he sits.    Izzo has so many other options up front.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 04, 2020, 08:51:14 PM
Sam with another highly efficient game 18 7 and 4 in overtime win over Kent State . Sam played well in the overtime .
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 04, 2020, 08:52:19 PM
Overtime win over Kent State.     Context matters.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on December 04, 2020, 11:49:25 PM
He’s sharpening his pencil Crayon as we speak.

FIFY
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on December 05, 2020, 07:08:16 AM
Sam with another highly efficient game 18 7 and 4 in overtime win over Kent State . Sam played well in the overtime .
I wouldnt say highly efficient. Huff was highly efficient, 5 less shots to get the same amount of points.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 05, 2020, 01:45:28 PM
The Brothers face off Wednesday.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 06, 2020, 08:05:55 PM
Joey had a good game against Western Michigan.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 06, 2020, 08:11:53 PM
Joey had a good game against Western Michigan.

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2020/12/joey-hausers-3-point-barrage-helps-michigan-state-dispatch-western-michigan.html

24 and 10 with 6 threes.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on December 08, 2020, 10:37:28 PM
Michigan State/Virginia has been cancelled due to COVID protocols within the Virginia program. So no Hauser brother battle.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 09, 2020, 06:34:40 AM
Michigan State/Virginia has been cancelled due to COVID protocols within the Virginia program. So no Hauser brother battle.
Both Brothers were leading their respective teams in scoring and rebounds . Would have been a great TB story line.

This story says the game is postponed

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/big-ten/2020/12/08/michigan-state-virginia-basketball-game-postponed-due-covid-issues-affecting-cavaliers/6503556002/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 09, 2020, 07:09:28 AM
It is fun living in Sparty land and being asked on a regular basis why Joey left Marquette.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: swoopem on December 09, 2020, 07:21:32 AM
It is fun living in Sparty land and being asked on a regular basis why Joey left Marquette.

You call it fun? I live in Detroit and I’d say 85% of my friends went to State or are State fans. I hate it, not my idea of fun
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 09, 2020, 07:28:12 AM
You call it fun? I live in Detroit and I’d say 85% of my friends went to State or are State fans. I hate it, not my idea of fun

Lots of couch burning amongst your friends, huh?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 13, 2020, 02:45:48 PM
Joey with another double double; 10 points 10 boards  and 4 assists in MSU's  109-91 win over Oakland.

Sam will be in action again against Villanova on Saturday.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 13, 2020, 06:45:24 PM
MSU outrebounded Oakland 52-20 and had 7 players in double figures while scoring 109 points.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on December 14, 2020, 04:52:43 AM
MSU outrebounded Oakland 52-20 and had 7 players in double figures while scoring 109 points.
I watched about 5 minutes in the first half and saw the 0-7 Oakland team hang with them. Their guard was in full Markus Howard mode, and saw Izzo rip Joey a new one. Fun times.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 14, 2020, 12:06:51 PM
I watched about 5 minutes in the first half and saw the 0-7 Oakland team hang with them. Their guard was in full Markus Howard mode, and saw Izzo rip Joey a new one. Fun times.
Izzo has Joey on a short leash and he pulls it every once in a while. Getting production out of him with that discipline.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 14, 2020, 02:42:23 PM
Izzo has Joey on a short leash and he pulls it every once in a while. Getting production out of him with that discipline.

Izzo should apply that to when he has rapists on the team
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 20, 2020, 07:44:54 PM
Wildcats whomping the Spartans by 15.  Joey just got himself benched with a soft turnover
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: HutchwasClutch on December 20, 2020, 07:49:14 PM
Wildcats whomping the Spartans by 15.  Joey just got himself benched with a soft turnover

What a coaching concept, holding a player accountable for poor play and giving them a clear message it’s not acceptable.  A foreign concept in our program.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on December 20, 2020, 07:50:05 PM
What a coaching concept, holding a player accountable for poor play and giving them a clear message it’s not acceptable.  A foreign concept in our program.

What? I honestly wonder what some people watch.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 20, 2020, 07:52:43 PM
Sparty getting rolled.  Joey gimpy and ineffective after a knee or shin bump in the first half.

Izzo benched all of his starters with two minutes to go due to lack of effort.  Has given up on this game.  You can send messages like that and write off games when you are Izzo.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 20, 2020, 08:11:49 PM
Sparty getting rolled.  Joey gimpy and ineffective after a knee or shin bump in the first half.

Izzo benched all of his starters with two minutes to go due to lack of effort.  Has given up on this game.  You can send messages like that and write off games when you are Izzo.
Joey had his first  lousy game and MSU lost to Northwestern . Will be interesting to hear Izzo post game comments .
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 20, 2020, 08:21:05 PM
Not his first.  But Izzo has earned the right to concede games early in order to punish his players.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: #UnleashKolek on December 20, 2020, 09:17:22 PM
What? I honestly wonder what some people watch.

I believe it was 4 years of awful turnovers and shots by a certain player who was heralded as a savior because his opponent was high.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on December 20, 2020, 10:40:18 PM
What? I honestly wonder what some people watch.

Exactly.

Which is it - wojo needs to bench players for mistakes or wojo needs to let players play through mistakes?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 24, 2020, 05:49:12 PM
Sam with a quiet 9, 3 and 2 in a big Virginia win over Bill and Mary . First game back for the Cavs after Covid.

Joey and MSU playing against the Badgers on Christmas Day
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 25, 2020, 09:35:12 AM
I would like to publicly apologize for my overly snarky and ill-informed comment in the Hauser thread on the main board. Apologies especially to harryp, who started the thread.

I was cranky, I got triggered by the Hauserness of it all, and I made a post without thinking or doing any research.

I would have posted this in that thread but it was locked before I could do so.

I hope everybody is having an enjoyable, relaxing holiday. Peace.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: WithoutBias on December 25, 2020, 12:14:27 PM
Going bald at 20 would suck.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 25, 2020, 12:27:03 PM
Tell me about it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 25, 2020, 01:21:20 PM
Joey "Slick" Hauser is having a good game.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: WithoutBias on December 25, 2020, 01:30:52 PM
Joey "Slick" Hauser is having a good game.

Not even Wojo lost at home to the Badgers.

Maybe Joey shouldn’t score so much. Team game. Plays it the right way. Wanted to play team ball and win games.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 25, 2020, 01:46:58 PM
Not even Wojo lost at home to the Badgers.

Maybe Joey shouldn’t score so much. Team game. Plays it the right way. Wanted to play team ball and win games.

Tied for second on the team in attempts, 7-9, 3-3 for three, 10-11 from the line. Definitely not his fault.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 25, 2020, 01:50:54 PM
Going bald at 20 would suck.

Never noticed that before.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/104ff2cde00fbd6bd830d4c95b18d4e6/tenor.gif?itemid=11608847)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: HutchwasClutch on December 25, 2020, 01:51:27 PM
Joey "Slick" Hauser is having a good game.

Career high 27.  Looks like their go to guy.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: WithoutBias on December 25, 2020, 01:52:09 PM
Never noticed that before.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/104ff2cde00fbd6bd830d4c95b18d4e6/tenor.gif?itemid=11608847)

Wonder how much LBJ or Boozer would charge for a consultation.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 25, 2020, 01:58:55 PM
Slick puts up 27 but unfortunately slipped on the floor at the end when it counted. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: HutchwasClutch on December 25, 2020, 01:59:53 PM
Slick puts up 27 but unfortunately slipped on the floor at the end when it counted.

They had a very slim chance at best when that happened.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 25, 2020, 02:30:27 PM
They had a very slim chance at best when that happened.

Come on. 5 point deficit with 15 seconds left, Wisconsin excellent from the line, nobody else making a play. Obviously the loss was Joey’s fault.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: HutchwasClutch on December 25, 2020, 02:36:04 PM
Come on. 5 point deficit with 15 seconds left, Wisconsin excellent from the line, nobody else making a play. Obviously the loss was Joey’s fault.

I don’t get what you’re reading into my comment. It wasn’t a criticism of Joey.  My point was responding that the game was essentially over when he turned it over.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 25, 2020, 04:56:56 PM
Going bald at 20 would suck.



Must bee da 'roids, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 25, 2020, 05:00:32 PM
I don’t get what you’re reading into my comment. It wasn’t a criticism of Joey.  My point was responding that the game was essentially over when he turned it over.

Agreeing with your comment. Sarcasm doesn’t always translate to message board posts.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: HutchwasClutch on December 25, 2020, 05:24:28 PM
Agreeing with your comment. Sarcasm doesn’t always translate to message board posts.

Gotcha. Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 25, 2020, 05:55:46 PM
Gotcha. Merry Christmas.

Same to you. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: We R Final Four on December 25, 2020, 08:29:19 PM
MU>UW
UW>MSU
Joey to MSU=bad decision.
Only explanation.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 25, 2020, 10:27:44 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3ofT5O48Rfz6InVniw/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: WithoutBias on December 26, 2020, 04:10:11 PM
Big bro giving up dang near as many points to his matchup in the first half as UVA usually gives up as a team in entire halves. UVA coming out with a different matchup to start the second half.

If Sam wanted to play for a team that played no defense and turned the ball over a ton he could’ve done that staying at Marquette and continued averaging 17 a game rather than seeing his team play at a snail’s pace and get 13 a game.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 26, 2020, 04:40:43 PM
Sam is getting absolutely abused in this game. Kispert and Timme just doing whatever the hell they want.


He's also 3/11 on the other end and just dribbled the ball off his knee.


Hate to see it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: WithoutBias on December 26, 2020, 04:42:15 PM
Blue Christmas for the Hausers. Letter writing commence.

Sam has to be the worst defender Tony’s ever coached. Kispert and Timme are just taking turns scoring at will depending on which one Sam is guarding. Mostly on late close outs or straight line drives to the tin. Also tough for him to get shots up without Markus drawing the attention of 3 defenders. Hysterical that there was actual talk about ACC Player of the Year for him.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: WithoutBias on December 26, 2020, 04:49:01 PM
Sam giving up career highs to both guys he guarded today.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 26, 2020, 05:19:52 PM
So maybe Wojo and Markus weren't holding Sam back and the pack-line isn't a panacea?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on December 26, 2020, 05:43:20 PM
Blue Christmas for the Hausers. Letter writing commence.

Sam has to be the worst defender Tony’s ever coached. Kispert and Timme are just taking turns scoring at will depending on which one Sam is guarding. Mostly on late close outs or straight line drives to the tin. Also tough for him to get shots up without Markus drawing the attention of 3 defenders. Hysterical that there was actual talk about ACC Player of the Year for him.

Take off your salty schadenfreude blinders. 5th year senior who averaged 15/7/2 on 45-40-90 shooting splits, as a clear second option, joining a perennial top 10 team whose other best returning player is a distributing guard.  The buzz was completely merited.  Look at previous ACC POY, outside of Tre Jones, defense really isn’t a defining point of their game.

Sam has had a tough year, and UVA has look like a shell of their previous self. But any thought of “LOL WHAT AN OVERRATED SCRUB” is nothing than bitter MU fan sentiment
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 26, 2020, 06:25:47 PM
I have nothing but respect and appreciation for what Sam accomplished at Marquette.   He left.   

Any urge I used to have to defend him went with him.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: WithoutBias on December 26, 2020, 06:26:58 PM
Take off your salty schadenfreude blinders. 5th year senior who averaged 15/7/2 on 45-40-90 shooting splits, as a clear second option, joining a perennial top 10 team whose other best returning player is a distributing guard.  The buzz was completely merited.  Look at previous ACC POY, outside of Tre Jones, defense really isn’t a defining point of their game.

Sam has had a tough year, and UVA has look like a shell of their previous self. But any thought of “LOL WHAT AN OVERRATED SCRUB” is nothing than bitter MU fan sentiment

I never said he was a scrub. He’s not. But ACC Player of the Year? Yeah. That’s laughable and always was.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 26, 2020, 08:16:26 PM
Hell, he couldn't even make Big East Player of the Year, aina?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: vogue65 on December 28, 2020, 10:54:38 AM
MU>UW
UW>MSU
Joey to MSU=bad decision.
Only explanation.

One explanation, I'm sure there is more to the story.
Are there any invesgative journalists left in Wisconsin?
I see it as a tragic story all around.
Everyone lost, the kids, WOJO, Marquette, the family, MSU, Virginia, UW, and the program.
Lots of moving parts to contemplate.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 28, 2020, 10:57:58 AM
One explanation, I'm sure there is more to the story.
Are there any invesgative journalists left in Wisconsin?
I see it as a tragic story all around.
Everyone lost, the kids, WOJO, Marquette, the family, MSU, Virginia, UW, and the program.
Lots of moving parts to contemplate.

How's UW and MSU lose? They got two solid players in a year where if Sam doesn't like what he's hearing from NBA boards he can come back and have a legit shot at a championship.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: vogue65 on December 28, 2020, 11:05:21 AM
How's UW and MSU lose? They got two solid players in a year where if Sam doesn't like what he's hearing from NBA boards he can come back and have a legit shot at a championship.

You have a point.
However, the jury is still out on locker room solidarity and the influence on the coach and their program.
I'm very naive, I believe in the common good.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: dgies9156 on December 28, 2020, 05:03:29 PM
One explanation, I'm sure there is more to the story.
Are there any invesgative journalists left in Wisconsin?
I see it as a tragic story all around.
Everyone lost, the kids, WOJO, Marquette, the family, MSU, Virginia, UW, and the program.
Lots of moving parts to contemplate.

Nobody ever is going to tell the true story on this one.

There are too many axes to grind and too many people hanging on in the background with their own self-interests.

The only truth I could see is the two young men didn't find what they wanted in Wisconsin, so they went elsewhere.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: We R Final Four on December 28, 2020, 07:47:54 PM
One explanation, I'm sure there is more to the story.
Are there any invesgative journalists left in Wisconsin?
I see it as a tragic story all around.
Everyone lost, the kids, WOJO, Marquette, the family, MSU, Virginia, UW, and the program.
Lots of moving parts to contemplate.
Imagine if MSU (played and) beat UVA.
Holy cow. Oh my gosh.
MU>UW>MSU>UVA.
Shut. It. Down.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: WithoutBias on December 28, 2020, 08:11:46 PM
Just turned on the Minnesota-MSU game to see them talk about Joey’s 1-6 shooting so far. Then on the defensive end he’s standing under the basket as his man is behind the 3 point line in the corner, and he still is late to rotate on a backdoor cut and gives up a soft 3rd foul for the and 1. Minnesota up 25.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: shoothoops on December 28, 2020, 08:51:21 PM
Minnesota exploiting Michigan St. at the 1 and the 5 in a big way tonight. No answer for Carr and Robbins.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 28, 2020, 09:49:31 PM
Just turned on the Minnesota-MSU game to see them talk about Joey’s 1-6 shooting so far. Then on the defensive end he’s standing under the basket as his man is behind the 3 point line in the corner, and he still is late to rotate on a backdoor cut and gives up a soft 3rd foul for the and 1. Minnesota up 25.
Wojo's fault.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: GooooMarquette on December 28, 2020, 11:06:35 PM
Just turned on the Minnesota-MSU game to see them talk about Joey’s 1-6 shooting so far. Then on the defensive end he’s standing under the basket as his man is behind the 3 point line in the corner, and he still is late to rotate on a backdoor cut and gives up a soft 3rd foul for the and 1. Minnesota up 25.


They probably coulda used Markus, ‘cept Joey woulda written Izzo a letter....
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Heisenberg v2.0 on December 29, 2020, 12:27:26 AM

They probably coulda used Markus, ‘cept Joey woulda written Izzo a letter....

I thought the same thing ...

MSU is 0-3 in the B1G and was just blown out by Minnesota, after getting blown out by Northwestern last week!  They are probably out of the top 25 now.

Joey is crafting a letter to Izzo as we speak.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 29, 2020, 05:19:55 AM
It has been a long time since I have seen a Spartan team so lacking in leadership or identity.   Izzo being Izzo, both will probably emerge in the next few weeks.   Langford, Watts or Henry.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 30, 2020, 06:58:38 PM
13, 10, and 4 for Sam tonight against ND
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on December 30, 2020, 07:02:33 PM
13, 10, and 4 for Sam tonight against ND
Cavs beat ND Which is always a good thing
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on December 30, 2020, 08:19:37 PM
13, 10, and 4 for Sam tonight against ND

Sam fits the offense well. But I can’t for the life of me figure out how they ever recruit athletic guys like Hunter or Brogdon or even Clark. I watched a good chunk of the second half, and the number of times they turn down open driving lanes or open jumpers to kill more clock if the shot clock isn’t under 10 or 15 is EXCRUCIATING
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 03, 2021, 10:52:00 AM
Joey just another guy against Nebraska  The Spartans won though ,as Aaron Henry showed his potential.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jockey on January 03, 2021, 02:06:49 PM
Sam fits the offense well. But I can’t for the life of me figure out how they ever recruit athletic guys like Hunter or Brogdon or even Clark. I watched a good chunk of the second half, and the number of times they turn down open driving lanes or open jumpers to kill more clock if the shot clock isn’t under 10 or 15 is EXCRUCIATING


The whole point of running an offense is to get good shots. I’ve never understood why some coaches think a contested shot with 3 seconds on the shot clock is better than an open shot with 25 seconds on the clock.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 06, 2021, 05:04:38 PM
Joey got back on track yesterday in MSU's much needed win over Rutgers. 9 points 14 Boards and 2 assists. Aaron Henry stepping into the role as the Man at MSU and Joey better off in supporting role.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 08, 2021, 08:24:40 PM
Spartans lose at the end. Not sure if it was Joeys man who broke free to get open to make the last shot. Joey was running toward Trevion Williams as he took the Final shot.

Joey with a modest game. Izzo has Joey on a tight leash .
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 09, 2021, 03:30:15 PM
Sam with 17 10 and 1 in the Cavs 12 point win over BC. Getting back to form after a few weak games.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 10, 2021, 02:29:20 PM
Stats season to date
Joey
11.8 points 8.1 rebounds 1.9 assists shooting .367 from 3 And .767 from line
Sam
13.8 points 7.3 rebounds 2.0 assist shooting .34 from 3 And .75 from line

Interesting that both brothers shooting is off . May be a function of different roles they play and not having Markus to attract double teams
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 10, 2021, 02:47:17 PM
Joey got abused defensively down the stretch against Purdue.  Izzo left him in, though.   Maybe he didn't like his other options.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 10, 2021, 06:05:03 PM
Stats season to date
Joey
11.8 points 8.1 rebounds 1.9 assists shooting .367 from 3 And .767 from line
Sam
13.8 points 7.3 rebounds 2.0 assist shooting .34 from 3 And .75 from line

Interesting that both brothers shooting is off . May be a function of different roles they play and not having Markus to attract double teams

They're both getting roughly the same numbers (Joey doing better on the glass) as at MU but less efficient shooters so it seems like they've carried the results of their last few weeks in Milwaukee in to their new homes.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on January 10, 2021, 06:08:14 PM
They're both getting roughly the same numbers (Joey doing better on the glass) as at MU but less efficient shooters so it seems like they've carried the results of their last few weeks in Milwaukee in to their new homes.

They wanted to be the best players on their own team. No Herro. No Markus. Heck, not even playing together.

Turns out they’re probably best as Robin. Very good players. But not great players.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 10, 2021, 07:00:40 PM
A lot more room to shoot when the entire defense is trying to stop a first team all American.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: CTWarrior on January 11, 2021, 11:02:28 AM
Sam with 17 10 and 1 in the Cavs 12 point win over BC. Getting back to form after a few weak games.
I watched this game.  Sam is such a smart/winning player.  Joey less so as far as a I can tell.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 11, 2021, 03:40:46 PM
Wonder if Joey will have to guard Luka Garza
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 11, 2021, 03:44:27 PM
Wonder if Joey will have to guard Luka Garza

He was so successful against Trevion Williams
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 11, 2021, 08:56:43 PM
He was so successful against Trevion Williams
That is why I was asking.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 13, 2021, 08:49:06 AM
Sam playing ND . Has a 3 game double double streak going. Cavs are 3-0 in that stretch.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 13, 2021, 09:20:46 AM
Sam playing ND . Has a 3 game double double streak going. Cavs are 3-0 in that stretch.

Playing some pretty crappy ACC teams.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on January 13, 2021, 04:21:29 PM
So far UVA has their worst defense since the 2012-2013 season (still 10th best defense according to KenPom, so quite amazing that's their worst in nearly a decade).  I don't know for sure, but I thought I heard a commentator for a Michigan State game say that this has been Tom Izzo's worst defense ever.  Maybe those are just coincidences.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 13, 2021, 05:14:26 PM
So far UVA has their worst defense since the 2012-2013 season (still 10th best defense according to KenPom, so quite amazing that's their worst in nearly a decade).  I don't know for sure, but I thought I heard a commentator for a Michigan State game say that this has been Tom Izzo's worst defense ever.  Maybe those are just coincidences.
1/5 of each teams starting lineup is a Sieve.  Just sayin.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 13, 2021, 09:16:51 PM
Sam string of double double ends as he goes 15 9 and 1. UVA beats ND Sucks 80-68
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 13, 2021, 09:32:15 PM
Sparty in COVID lockdown.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 14, 2021, 09:59:39 AM
Virginia has played the equivalent of a D-II schedule to this point. Wow is that an awful set of Ws.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 14, 2021, 10:54:29 AM
Virginia has played the equivalent of a D-II schedule to this point. Wow is that an awful set of Ws.

ACC is the surprise crapshow this year to me. Not a lot of quality there.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 16, 2021, 08:06:06 PM
Sam went 14 points 8  boards and 2 assists with 4 for 5 from the Arc in the Cavs big win 85-50 win over #12 Clemson.

Virginia is 5-0 in the ACC and 9-2 Overall
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 23, 2021, 09:38:05 PM
Sam 22 and 6 in the Cavs win over The Rambling Wreck of Georgia Tech tonight. Second straight game Sam went 4/5 from 3. Including several in key makes down the stretch.

Cavs continue to be undefeated in ACC Play.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 25, 2021, 06:07:34 PM
Will be interesting to see how Sam does against the Syracuse zone tonight. Bilas is really talking his game up.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 25, 2021, 06:42:14 PM
Hauser with 15 at the half all on threes. UVA up by 9.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 25, 2021, 07:50:04 PM
Sam with 21 7 and 3 on 7 for 13 from 3 in UVA big win over Syracuse. Cavs still undefeated in ACC play. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 26, 2021, 09:26:34 AM
You ever feel like you're telling a story that no one is listening to?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Lens on January 27, 2021, 12:02:11 PM
I’m here for it.

Go Sam.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 28, 2021, 06:56:15 PM
Joey not doing much so far tonight. Spartans down by 6 at the half to Rutgers.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 28, 2021, 07:58:14 PM
Rutgers 67 MSU 37 Joey 6 points
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jables1604 on January 28, 2021, 10:04:29 PM
Rutgers 67 MSU 37 Joey 6 points
Legit question...does anybody think Vanilla Softserve is realizing that the grass isn’t always greener?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 28, 2021, 11:07:54 PM
Rutgers 67 MSU 37 Joey 6 points

13 of 15 MSU players have tested positive for COVID. Look at what happened to Cam Newton after his positive. MSU is in trouble.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on January 28, 2021, 11:11:17 PM
Legit question...does anybody think Vanilla Softserve is realizing that the grass isn’t always greener?

Sam has been more successful than Joey to this point, but Joey is averaging almost a double double albeit on a pretty average team. Michigan State will need to recruit over him if they want to get back to elite status as he should be more of a sixth or seventh man type player in a top program like MSU.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 29, 2021, 05:52:10 AM
Sam has been more successful than Joey to this point, but Joey is averaging almost a double double albeit on a pretty average team. Michigan State will need to recruit over him if they want to get back to elite status as he should be more of a sixth or seventh man type player in a top program like MSU.

Those numbers are essentially what he was putting up at Marquette.  I was led to believe that he was much better than that!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 29, 2021, 05:56:21 AM
Sparty has PG issues, leadership issues, and COVID issues.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 29, 2021, 12:11:52 PM
Those numbers are essentially what he was putting up at Marquette.  I was led to believe that he was much better than that!

More points, more rebounds, better FG% (62% from two), all in fewer minutes. The only major stat lower for him is assists.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 29, 2021, 12:13:51 PM
No Sam to pass it to.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on January 29, 2021, 12:28:18 PM
More points, more rebounds, better FG% (62% from two), all in fewer minutes. The only major stat lower for him is assists.

He didn’t say they’re identical. He said they’re basically the same, which they are. Given he had a full year to develop under one of the best coaches in the game, and is playing for a team that is having less success than Marquette was having with Joey, I doubt MSU fans are thrilled with a guy they thought was better than big bro and would be the best player on one of the best teams in the country.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 29, 2021, 12:31:20 PM
Early in the season after the Duke win a Coworker messaged me thanking me for Joey, I don't think she's as happy now
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 29, 2021, 12:43:25 PM
I'm getting a real "peaked early" vibe from Joey.  I am sure he will improve some, but I doubt we will see drastic improvement from here on out.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 29, 2021, 12:45:21 PM
He didn’t say they’re identical. He said they’re basically the same, which they are. Given he had a full year to develop under one of the best coaches in the game, and is playing for a team that is having less success than Marquette was having with Joey, I doubt MSU fans are thrilled with a guy they thought was better than big bro and would be the best player on one of the best teams in the country.

I also don’t think MSU fans expected all but two players on the roster to get COVID. He’s still #2 on the team in scoring (behind their top returner) and top rebounder by far. But the obsessed him to fail, so...
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 29, 2021, 01:06:30 PM
I'm getting a real "peaked early" vibe from Joey.  I am sure he will improve some, but I doubt we will see drastic improvement from here on out.

 he'll still definitely end up wealthier than most of us were in his 20s whether here or Europe but yeah I agree. In the little I've seen he doesn't seem to have that next step.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on January 29, 2021, 04:07:02 PM
I'm getting a real "peaked early" vibe from Joey.  I am sure he will improve some, but I doubt we will see drastic improvement from here on out.

Joey peaked at 17.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocket ALM surgeon on January 29, 2021, 05:01:24 PM
he'll still definitely end up wealthier than most of us were in his 20s whether here or Europe but yeah I agree. In the little I've seen he doesn't seem to have that next step.

  i believe he still has a way to go yet.  he hasn't put 2 solid seasons together yet
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 29, 2021, 05:18:59 PM
  i believe he still has a way to go yet.  he hasn't put 2 solid seasons together yet

Good point. But then again any 6'10 guy who can put the ball on the floor, stretch it, post up, and rebounds above average will make good money somewhere for sure. He's definitely not the sure fire first rounder that people pegged him to be when he committed that's for sure
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocket ALM surgeon on January 29, 2021, 05:44:34 PM
Good point. But then again any 6'10 guy who can put the ball on the floor, stretch it, post up, and rebounds above average will make good money somewhere for sure. He's definitely not the sure fire first rounder that people pegged him to be when he committed that's for sure

  point well taken & i love to see "local boy does good" stories.  if joey could suddenly play with a rodgers-like chip on his shoulder, ya never know.  he's got some serious work to do on his quickness(lack there of) and lateral movement.  he's no doubt, a shooter and a ball handler.  2 of the things he was relied upon for most of the teams he played on...until college.  he found that he could get away with the lack of stuff...until now.  let's call it the henry syndrome

   you know who's freaking me out that i didn't see coming at all? 

    playing(and STARTING) for one of the elite programs in the country, going pro after one year, becoming a first round NBA pick AND doing quite well at the highest level mind you.

   ya'll know who i'm talking about too
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on January 29, 2021, 06:01:51 PM
I also don’t think MSU fans expected all but two players on the roster to get COVID. He’s still #2 on the team in scoring (behind their top returner) and top rebounder by far. But the obsessed him to fail, so...

Because they were really killing it before their covid shutdown.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 30, 2021, 10:35:10 AM
Sparty fan to me this morning at shift change.    "The whole team is lousy, but you can have Joey back."
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on January 30, 2021, 07:29:27 PM
Sam and the Cavs had their first loss in league play tonight on the road against against a strong VA Tech squad. Sam with 10 -5 -1 stat line.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 30, 2021, 07:32:41 PM
Sam and the Cavs had their first loss in league play tonight on the road against against a strong VA Tech squad. Sam with 10 -5 -1 stat line.

H and H are good college players but I don't see then playing NBA ball.  They might get a cup of coffee but that's about it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 02, 2021, 08:59:28 PM
Joey 10 9 and 3 in The Spartans loss to Iowa tonight.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on February 03, 2021, 12:45:10 PM
Joey 10 9 and 3 in The Spartans loss to Iowa tonight.

Great line for a one and done.  LOL
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU24 on February 03, 2021, 02:34:38 PM
He made this big fuss about not getting enough touches and he goes to an arguably better program in MSU and has been stinking it up. Makes no sense. Then again, he is a kid.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on February 03, 2021, 03:07:57 PM
He made this big fuss about not getting enough touches and he goes to an arguably better program in MSU and has been stinking it up. Makes no sense. Then again, he is a kid.

Can't blame him when he has probably been told he is a basketball God his entire life by everyone around him. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 03, 2021, 03:14:22 PM
He made this big fuss about not getting enough touches and he goes to an arguably better program in MSU and has been stinking it up. Makes no sense. Then again, he is a kid.


Is he "stinking it up?"  There is an argument that he peaked early and isn't going to ultimately what we thought he would be as a high school player, but he's not playing poor by any means.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 03, 2021, 08:14:11 PM
Sam off to a good start against NC State
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 04, 2021, 03:43:55 AM
Sam 18-5 -1 in the Cavs win over NC State.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 06, 2021, 07:20:17 PM
Sam 23 6 and 1 in the Cavs win over Pete. Another strong 3 point game for Sam going 3/4 from distance
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on February 06, 2021, 07:39:01 PM
My whole opinion of Joey has changed.    Watching him ask Izzo "What do you want me to do?" after another turnover made me feel for him.    Also, after his latest buzz cut, it turns out he has a bald spot.     Lots of sympathy.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 06, 2021, 07:47:12 PM
My whole opinion of Joey has changed.    Watching him ask Izzo "What do you want me to do?" after another turnover made me feel for him.    Also, after his latest buzz cut, it turns out he has a bald spot.     Lots of sympathy.
Announcers talking in-depth about Joeys zero point game in the Spartans win over Nebraska
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 06, 2021, 10:59:54 PM
Announcers talking in-depth about Joeys zero point game in the Spartans win over Nebraska

We may have found the source of the cancer.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 06, 2021, 11:12:20 PM
Joey has some offensive talent, but he has serious weaknesses on both ends of the court (especially one), as we saw during his one season here.

He also appears to be quite mentally weak. And unfortunately, a mentally weak person ended up playing a major role in ruining our best season in years, as well as a potentially outstanding follow-up season.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on February 09, 2021, 06:47:49 PM
Joey came off the bench tonight.   Message delivered.   Solid first half.



Joey apparently suggested it to Izzo.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on February 09, 2021, 08:19:02 PM
Congrats the Mich St.  for a huge 2pt win over Penn St. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 09, 2021, 08:47:37 PM
Joey with 11 2 and 3 off the bench.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on February 09, 2021, 08:48:47 PM
Joey came off the bench tonight.   Message delivered.   Solid first half.



Joey apparently suggested it to Izzo.

Did he write a letter?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 10, 2021, 07:34:24 AM
Details of Joey Self Benching

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/02/joey-hauser-strong-off-bench-for-michigan-state-after-move-from-lineup.html
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 10, 2021, 08:29:37 AM
Details of Joey Self Benching

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/02/joey-hauser-strong-off-bench-for-michigan-state-after-move-from-lineup.html

Maybe he's growing up a little.

Or maybe mommy and daddy told him to do it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 10, 2021, 05:49:48 PM
Sam earns ACC player of the week. Article on his improving Defense.
https://www.pilotonline.com/sports/college/university-virginia/vp-sp-uva-sam-hauser-defense-20210209-vu44wpwr3fhqjjk35ijwili7ca-story.html
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: #UnleashKolek on February 10, 2021, 06:27:08 PM
Maybe he's growing up a little.

Or maybe mommy and daddy told him to do it.

I'd wager a guess a lot more mature then what you and the rest of the scapegoats give credit 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 10, 2021, 10:23:09 PM
I'd wager a guess a lot more mature then what you and the rest of the scapegoats give credit

I'll give Joey credit when he's participating on a successful team.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 11, 2021, 05:16:59 AM
Sam and Joey were 100% right to exit this program. They saw Woj for what he is...total incapable fraud, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 11, 2021, 08:25:28 AM
Sam 8 10 and 3 in the Cavs win over Georgia Tech.

UVA is 14-3
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 11, 2021, 09:06:15 AM
Sam and Joey were 100% right to exit this program. They saw Woj for what he is...total incapable fraud, hey?

Attaboy. Root for the traitors instead of your alma mater.

Sam has been a heck of a player for 3 seasons (and a valuable role player as a frosh) and he was a terrible loss.

Joey has done absolutely nothing as a college basketball player. Indeed, he has done worse than nothing - he contributed significantly to the failure of one (long-ago) storied program, and is now contributing to the failure of a (very recently) storied program.

What could 2018-19 Marquette and 2020-21 Michigan State possibly have in common? Hmm ... I wonder ... what (or who) could it be?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 11, 2021, 09:25:38 AM
C'mon man, some are visionary, are able  call a spade a spade, even if it hurts or isn't popular to do so. Were the Hausers wrong for doing so, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 13, 2021, 09:48:12 PM
Joey 9 and 7 coming off the bench. Spartans routed by Iowa.

Sam 17-5-2 in UVA pivotal ACC win over UNC. Cavs are 15-3 and first in ACC.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on February 13, 2021, 09:55:03 PM
Sam 17-5-2 in UVA pivotal ACC win over UNC. Cavs are 15-3 and first in ACC.

Pivotal? The clear first placed team beating a bubble team at home in a game they were never below 78% odds to win isn't exactly what I'd call pivotal.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 14, 2021, 08:31:04 AM


What could 2018-19 Marquette and 2020-21 Michigan State possibly have in common? Hmm ... I wonder ... what (or who) could it be?

Correlation does not equal causation. You know that, Mike.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 14, 2021, 09:24:05 AM
What could 2018-19 Marquette and 2020-21 Michigan State possibly have in common? Hmm ... I wonder ... what (or who) could it be?

No point guard?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on February 14, 2021, 09:27:04 AM
My Spartan fan buddies are more frustrated with Rocket Watts than they are with Joey.    They rant about a guy who can refuse the keys.  And then they usually end somewhere around it being a COVID season and he probably not get enough coaching in the off-season.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: vogue65 on February 14, 2021, 11:21:23 PM
Attaboy. Root for the traitors instead of your alma mater.

Sam has been a heck of a player for 3 seasons (and a valuable role player as a frosh) and he was a terrible loss.

Joey has done absolutely nothing as a college basketball player. Indeed, he has done worse than nothing - he contributed significantly to the failure of one (long-ago) storied program, and is now contributing to the failure of a (very recently) storied program.

What could 2018-19 Marquette and 2020-21 Michigan State possibly have in common? Hmm ... I wonder ... what (or who) could it be?

Have to chime back in.
You nailed it and said it with class.
Traitor is being kind. 
All the talk abought enlightened self interest is nonsense.
Selfishness is what it is and usually gets rewarded for what it is.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 15, 2021, 09:08:12 PM
Sam 11 and 5 tonight .  Cavs blown out by FSU
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 15, 2021, 09:30:53 PM
I sat down to watch the Your Honor series finale tonight and thought I'd check out this game before I went to Showtime.

As the game hit my screen, the announcer was talking about how Virginia had rallied from a 23-point deficit. They were down by 8 with about 13 1/2 minutes to go.

Over the next 5-6 minutes, Florida State outscored Virginia 17-0 to go up 25. Game over.

During that stretch, Sam missed two wide-open 3s and a short jumper on a post-up. He also threw the ball away once.

And I honestly don't think FSU missed a shot during the entire run. Heck, I'm not even sure the ball touched the rim. Every shot was SPLASH, right through the net. It was like Hoosiers - the movie, not the mediocre team coached by Archie Miller.

I had seen more than enough and switched to Showtime. I mostly enjoyed Your Honor, too.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 15, 2021, 11:56:02 PM
I sat down to watch the Your Honor series finale tonight and thought I'd check out this game before I went to Showtime.

As the game hit my screen, the announcer was talking about how Virginia had rallied from a 23-point deficit. They were down by 8 with about 13 1/2 minutes to go.

Over the next 5-6 minutes, Florida State outscored Virginia 17-0 to go up 25. Game over.

During that stretch, Sam missed two wide-open 3s and a short jumper on a post-up. He also threw the ball away once.

And I honestly don't think FSU missed a shot during the entire run. Heck, I'm not even sure the ball touched the rim. Every shot was SPLASH, right through the net. It was like Hoosiers - the movie, not the mediocre team coached by Archie Miller.

I had seen more than enough and switched to Showtime. I mostly enjoyed Your Honor, too.

What an amazing coincidence that you just happened to tune in at the precise time that showcased Sam at his absolute worst. Odds against it probably 1000-1. And yet I’m not even surprised a little. Amazing...
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 16, 2021, 12:02:19 AM
What an amazing coincidence that you just happened to tune in at the precise time that showcased Sam at his absolute worst. Odds against it probably 1000-1. And yet I’m not even surprised a little. Amazing...

Was waiting for my wife to join me to watch Your Honor, so I put the game on for a few minutes. She sits down and says, "Who's playing?" And I say, "Virginia-Florida State. And since I turned the game on, Florida State hasn't missed and Virginia hasn't come close to scoring. It was an 8-point game and now it's 20-something."

I kid you not, Tony.

As you know, I like Sam as a player. He could have been a Marquette all-timer and I still think he could make a lot of money in the NBA. And he could have a nice NCAA run with Va. this season. But yes, he sucked in this game, or at least in the stretch I saw.

EDIT: Oh, and BTW, I also saw Sam have an excellent 5-minute stretch against UNC on Saturday - hit a pair of 3s, had a steal and a nice pass. Not surprising; he's a very good player.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 16, 2021, 07:55:35 AM
What an amazing coincidence that you just happened to tune in at the precise time that showcased Sam at his absolute worst. Odds against it probably 1000-1. And yet I’m not even surprised a little. Amazing...


LOL, I know all the meat-eaters thought all it would take for Sam to turn into the next Larry Bird was to get away from Wojo.

But I guess since that didn't happen, accusing Scoopers of lying about something so trivial is how they deal with it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 16, 2021, 07:56:42 AM
EDIT: Oh, and BTW, I also saw Sam have an excellent 5-minute stretch against UNC on Saturday - hit a pair of 3s, had a steal and a nice pass. Not surprising; he's a very good player.


WHY DID'T YOU POST ABOUT IT THEN HUH???  YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO COVER UP WOJO'S PROBLEMS!!!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: We R Final Four on February 16, 2021, 08:13:18 PM
Joey has 3 turnovers in final minute to seal the loss for MSU in a close game, loss to Purdue.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 16, 2021, 08:28:02 PM

LOL, I know all the meat-eaters thought all it would take for Sam to turn into the next Larry Bird was to get away from Wojo.

But I guess since that didn't happen, accusing Scoopers of lying about something so trivial is how they deal with it.

Sam is Sam. I never said (or predicted) otherwise.

Mike and I are friends and we sometimes give each other sh$t. Not surprised you don’t get it - you don’t seem like a guy who has many (any?). But by all means continue to insert yourself in all of my back and fourths. The obsessed really don’t have a choice, a’ina?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on February 16, 2021, 08:33:39 PM
Joey has 3 turnovers in final minute to seal the loss for MSU in a close game, loss to Purdue.

I missed it but ty for the synopsis.  :)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on February 16, 2021, 08:38:32 PM
Joey has 3 turnovers in final minute to seal the loss for MSU in a close game, loss to Purdue.

He was 3-4 from the floor, all from 3...so naturally he bricked a 3 late when they needed a bucket, in addition being sloppy with the ball.  Kid is a mess right now.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on February 16, 2021, 08:54:56 PM
He was 3-4 from the floor, all from 3...so naturally he bricked a 3 late when they needed a bucket, in addition being sloppy with the ball.  Kid is a mess right now.

If your life depended on who would take the triple in the clutch among all MU players?   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on February 16, 2021, 09:14:28 PM
Currently?   DJ
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on February 16, 2021, 10:16:17 PM
Fair to say at this point the Hauser boys' decision to transfer is working out for absolutely no one.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocket ALM surgeon on February 16, 2021, 10:22:09 PM

LOL, I know all the meat-eaters thought all it would take for Sam to turn into the next Larry Bird was to get away from Wojo.

But I guess since that didn't happen, accusing Scoopers of lying about something so trivial is how they deal with it.

  teal eyn'a?  i never heard this from any of those "savages".  please re-read lenny's  post.  that had to sting a little, but dittos on ya lenny!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 16, 2021, 10:35:55 PM
Fair to say at this point the Hauser boys' decision to transfer is working out for absolutely no one.

I don't think that's fair to say about Sam at all. He's got a pretty good thing going at Virginia. They lost their last game, and he had a bad stretch, but he has played quite well for them and they could have a pretty nice run in the NCAAs ... something he sure never had at Marquette.

As for Joey, Izzo and Wojo ... you're right there. Hausershima hasn't worked out all that swell for them.

Anybody who would call Joey anything but a major disappointment is delusional, and obviously MSU and MU are hot messes. Especially MU.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 16, 2021, 11:01:47 PM
I don't think Virginia is that good.  They've stacked wins in a mediocre ACC and have been blown out by the best teams they've faced.

Virginia Tech beat them by 14, Florida State beat them by 21, and Gonzaga beat them by 23.

I still see them as a tourney team. Probably an 8 or 9 seed based on talent, though they're actual seed will probably be higher.  But I don't see Virginia going very far in the Dance.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 16, 2021, 11:08:10 PM
I don't think that's fair to say about Sam at all. He's got a pretty good thing going at Virginia.

At this point, I'm glad Sam decided to transfer.  MU would have been better with him last year, but that ended in covid misery for every team.  Glad he gets to play this year - and I guess he now gets another year option too?  Hell, 20/20 hindsight, everyone should have transferred 2 years ago and sat out last year.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on February 16, 2021, 11:14:09 PM
I don't think that's fair to say about Sam at all. He's got a pretty good thing going at Virginia. They lost their last game, and he had a bad stretch, but he has played quite well for them and they could have a pretty nice run in the NCAAs ... something he sure never had at Marquette.

Anything could happen, especially this year, but this Virginia team is not good. They've played three games against teams in the NET and KenPom top 40. They're 0-3 in those games, losing by 23, 14 and 21 points, respectively. They have as many Quad 1 wins as Marquette. They've beaten up on a lot of non-tournament teams, but nothing on their resume to date indicates they're a threat for a pretty nice run.
Obviously the pandemic changed everything - something that couldn't have been known when he decided to transfer - but had he and his brother returned to MU, last year's MU team would have been better than this Virginia team.
In the meantime, Sam's two years older and his pro prospects are no better - and probably worse - than had he turned pro instead of transferring after the 2019 season. He's 23 years old now but still the same player he was at Marquette, almost literally. His numbers this year are nearly identical to what he did for three seasons at Marquette. And his lack of NBA-level athleticism continues to be glaring. Anyone who believed the year off would help him in that regard was mistaken.
If he's in a happier place, then he made a great decision for himself. But from a purely basketball perspective, he's worse off.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 16, 2021, 11:23:43 PM
Anything could happen, especially this year, but this Virginia team is not good. They've played three games against teams in the NET and KenPom top 40. They're 0-3 in those games, losing by 23, 14 and 21 points, respectively. They have as many Quad 1 wins as Marquette. They've beaten up on a lot of non-tournament teams, but nothing on their resume to date indicates they're a threat for a pretty nice run.
Obviously the pandemic changed everything - something that couldn't have been known when he decided to transfer - but had he and his brother returned to MU, last year's MU team would have been better than this Virginia team.
In the meantime, Sam's two years older and his pro prospects are no better - and probably worse - than had he turned pro instead of transferring after the 2019 season. He's 23 years old now but still the same player he was at Marquette, almost literally. His numbers this year are nearly identical to what he did for three seasons at Marquette. And his lack of NBA-level athleticism continues to be glaring. Anyone who believed the year off would help him in that regard was mistaken.
If he's in a happier place, then he made a great decision for himself. But from a purely basketball perspective, he's worse off.

I doubt Sam would say he's worse off.

We'll see what happens the rest of the year. I'm not rooting for him, but I'm not rooting against him either.

I don't think Virginia is that good.  They've stacked wins in a mediocre ACC and have been blown out by the best teams they've faced.

Virginia Tech beat them by 14, Florida State beat them by 21, and Gonzaga beat them by 23.

I still see them as a tourney team. Probably an 8 or 9 seed based on talent, though they're actual seed will probably be higher.  But I don't see Virginia going very far in the Dance.



The beautiful thing is that we'll get to see!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 17, 2021, 12:36:10 AM
Joey 11 4 and 2 off the bench. Spartans continue their losing ways.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on February 17, 2021, 05:31:25 AM
I don't think Virginia is that good.  They've stacked wins in a mediocre ACC and have been blown out by the best teams they've faced.

Virginia Tech beat them by 14, Florida State beat them by 21, and Gonzaga beat them by 23.

I still see them as a tourney team. Probably an 8 or 9 seed based on talent, though they're actual seed will probably be higher.  But I don't see Virginia going very far in the Dance.

Nope.  They look like a team that will get blown off the court at some point by 20-30.  The defense is good and they’re still the slowest team in the nation but as soon as they play a team that’s making baskets, game over.

I didn’t realize just how bad the ACC was until looking at their wins. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Silent Verbal on February 17, 2021, 07:03:17 AM
At this point, the optics of losing two brothers who were WI high school stars and starters for Marquette, one of whom was a cornerstone in the rebuilding effort and had played three good years for the program, are worse than the potential production lost from those players.

It doesn’t matter how bad Joey and MSU are doing, or how little Sam has changed since going to Virginia.  Losing them will be a black eye for Wojo for as long as he’s at Marquette.  It will always be seen as the beginning of the end for him here.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 17, 2021, 07:26:35 AM
At this point, the optics of losing two brothers who were WI high school stars and starters for Marquette, one of whom was a cornerstone in the rebuilding effort and had played three good years for the program, are worse than the potential production lost from those players.

It doesn’t matter how bad Joey and MSU are doing, or how little Sam has changed since going to Virginia.  Losing them will be a black eye for Wojo for as long as he’s at Marquette.  It will always be seen as the beginning of the end for him here.


Oh I agree with you there.  But the idea that all they needed was better coaching and they would blossom into huge stars is a bit much.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Silent Verbal on February 17, 2021, 07:46:51 AM

Oh I agree with you there.  But the idea that all they needed was better coaching and they would blossom into huge stars is a bit much.

I agree.  I’ll admit that I wanted them to do well because it’d be one more thing I could rip Wojo for, another notch in his belt of ineptitude.  But after watching them both multiple times this year, they’re the same guys they were at Marquette.  And I guess you can probably say that about 99% of transfers.  I’m sure some Nebraska fans were probably saying it about Ed Morrow.

And really, in the “ripping on Wojo” department, how they performed at their new schools was immaterial.  The damage was done simply by their leaving.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on February 17, 2021, 08:49:47 AM

Oh I agree with you there.  But the idea that all they needed was better coaching and they would blossom into huge stars is a bit much.

Yup.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on February 17, 2021, 09:10:14 AM

The beautiful thing is that we'll get to see!
Amen!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on February 20, 2021, 11:44:33 AM
Joseph Hauser is apparently glued to the bench.  8th or 9th man now??  Will he transfer back to MU with a different coach?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 20, 2021, 12:48:24 PM
Joseph Hauser is apparently glued to the bench.  8th or 9th man now??  Will he transfer back to MU with a different coach?
Spartans Winning over Indiana, Joey have another poor performance lots of missed shots and turnovers
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on February 20, 2021, 12:59:33 PM
Spartans Winning over Indiana, Joey have another poor performance lots of missed shots and turnovers

The secret may be to not play Joey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on February 20, 2021, 01:01:35 PM
The secret may be to not play Joey?

He just needs to find a good coach to get the most out of him
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on February 20, 2021, 01:06:24 PM
Watched the last 15 minutes and Joey barely played other than a few seconds at the end. He’s really being phased out.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on February 20, 2021, 01:16:17 PM
Watched the last 15 minutes and Joey barely played other than a few seconds at the end. He’s really being phased out.

He's a streak shooter.  If he's missing open threes his faults become more glaring.  Especially the turns and matador D.  It could be letter time?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: GOO on February 20, 2021, 02:31:30 PM
Joey Hauser obviously closed out his year at MU not so well.  Couldn't hang onto the ball, turnovers, etc.  I thought it was just a mental thing for him as he wasn't getting along with teammates, etc (and whatever the exact problems were with Markus shooting, etc, I don't know).  Two years removed, with normal development he should be way ahead of where he was at MU.  It doesn't seem like he has improved much.

But it seems like he is having some of the same problems.  And he can't guard bigs, and to slow to guard 3's.
https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/Board/93/Contents/What-would-it-take-for-Hauser-to-get-permanently-benched-161042289/?page=2

Joey, maybe next year will be his year.  Would probably benefit from having a great shooter or two around him to give him space.  Maybe Markus was actually good for him.  Maybe we'll know next year - I can't imagine that MSU will be down for two years in a row.

Sam, same Sam.  He can play, but I don't think he can be the man.  A great Robin.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: GOO on February 20, 2021, 02:33:30 PM
Joey Hauser obviously closed out his year at MU not so well.  Couldn't hang onto the ball, turnovers, etc.  I thought it was just a mental thing for him as he wasn't getting along with teammates, etc (and whatever the exact problems were with Markus shooting, etc, I don't know).  Two years removed, with normal development he should be way ahead of where he was at MU.  It doesn't seem like he has improved much.

But it seems like he is having some of the same problems.  And he can't guard bigs, and to slow to guard 3's.
https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/Board/93/Contents/What-would-it-take-for-Hauser-to-get-permanently-benched-161042289/?page=2

Joey, maybe next year will be his year.  Would probably benefit from having a great shooter or two around him to give him space.  Maybe Markus was actually good for him.  Maybe we'll know next year - I can't imagine that MSU will be down for two years in a row.

Sam, same Sam.  He can play, but I don't think he can be the man.  A great Robin. And that takes nothing away from Sam.  He would have been great to have for another year at MU.  And had he redshirted last year, he sure would help this team, just having the maturity around.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 20, 2021, 03:28:08 PM
Joey final stat line 13 minutes 4 points 1 Rebound 3 turnovers 2-7 from the field including 0-3 from 3 point range.

Key win for the Spartans today over Indiana.

Izzo giving chances to players who are more physical.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 20, 2021, 04:32:42 PM
Izzo said a couple days ago that guys would be playing for their jobs. He said he'd only give significant PT to those who were worthy, those who earned it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on February 20, 2021, 04:54:45 PM
Izzo said a couple days ago that guys would be playing for their jobs. He said he'd only give significant PT to those who were worthy, those who earned it.

Mind games
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on February 20, 2021, 05:11:47 PM
We need some posters from scoop to go over and set those insensitive, uninformed Spartan fans straight about Joey.   All of their complaints about St. Joseph are Wojo's fault.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 20, 2021, 05:16:08 PM
We need somr posters from scoop to go over and set those insensitive, uninformed Spartan fans straight about Joey.   All of their complaints about St. Joseph are Wojo's fault.

I blame "The Cancer."
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on February 20, 2021, 05:18:01 PM
Well, there was one poster there who pointed out that Joey was at his most effective with a high scoring ball hog.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on February 20, 2021, 05:50:22 PM
I blame "The Cancer."

Maybe he’s not that special of a player
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 20, 2021, 05:50:37 PM
Seriously, tower, we're joking about this, but I believe what GOO says is true (and a few others have said it in the past):

Markus was such a focus of the defense, he created a TON of open shots for his teammates. Think of how many uncontested 3s were there for Sam, Joey, Bailey, Cain, Sacar, etc.

Now, Markus wasn't always the best at seeing open teammates; he was never a real PG and he loved to shoot. But the ball did find those guys plenty.

The time Sam scored 31 in the game at GT that Markus missed when Sam and Sacar shared PG duties has become the stuff of legend for the Scoopers who genuflect at the mere thought of anything Hauser. And that was a great feat, one I enjoyed very much. But the fact is that Sam also averaged more than 20 ppg (on 54% shooting, including 46% from 3) over the next 5 games with Markus back in the lineup.

Unfortunately, Sam went cold down the stretch, just as Markus struggled and Joey was on a milk carton. All that, combined with the bad chemistry, was our undoing.

I don't watch a lot of Michigan State basketball, but I'm guessing the younger Hauser isn't seeing as many wide-open looks as he got as an MU frosh. And now he isn't even getting much PT - which indicates that maybe, just maybe, his struggles at Marquette weren't somebody else's fault.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on February 20, 2021, 06:01:37 PM
Yes.   Markus forced a lot of shots.  But his presence created open looks and prevented post double teams.


I go back a few games where Joey fouled out and committed a few turnovers in 14 minutes.   Izzo came over to talk to him and I read Joey's lips. 'I don't know what you want me to do.'
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 20, 2021, 09:20:39 PM
Sam 19 -8-3 in Cavs 1 point loss to Duke.

Sam missed a critical 3 pointer in the last minute that would have given UVA the lead 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 20, 2021, 10:59:13 PM
Sam 19 -8-3 in Cavs 1 point loss to Duke.

Sam missed a critical 3 pointer in the last minute that would have given UVA the lead

On the game's final play, it must have felt like deja vu to him as he could only watch while Kihei Clark dribbled down court, fumbled the ball, never for a second considered passing to Sam or anybody else, and then missed a desperation 3. Of course, the difference is that Clark is not a good shooter while Markus was one of the best shooters in the country.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: TSmith34 on February 21, 2021, 07:04:56 AM
On the game's final play, it must have felt like deja vu to him as he could only watch while Kihei Clark dribbled down court, fumbled the ball, never for a second considered passing to Sam or anybody else, and then missed a desperation 3. Of course, the difference is that Clark is not a good shooter while Markus was one of the best shooters in the country.
Those end of game situations were probably my biggest pet peeve with Markus. MU might as well have had the other 4 guys stand under MU's defensive basket for all the difference it would have made in terms of who was going to touch the ball, and how many of the opponent's players were going to swarm Markus knowing the ball would never leave his hands.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 21, 2021, 04:41:14 PM
Article on UVA after loss.  One of their takeaways is Sam needs to keep looking for his shot.

https://dailyprogress.com/sports/rapid-reaction-three-takeaways-from-virginias-66-65-loss-to-duke/article_277ca454-73f3-11eb-a75b-fff0788c4f16.html
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 21, 2021, 05:07:21 PM
Article on UVA after loss.  One of their takeaways is Sam needs to keep looking for his shot.

https://dailyprogress.com/sports/rapid-reaction-three-takeaways-from-virginias-66-65-loss-to-duke/article_277ca454-73f3-11eb-a75b-fff0788c4f16.html

Many of us used to say the same when Sam was here. He was a good post-up player and we wanted him to do it more.

Sam had a very good game yesterday. But down the stretch he missed his last 2 shots, including a wide-open 3, got the ball stolen from him, and also got away with an obvious travel.

And in defense of Clark, Sam didn’t work to get open on the final play. He just stood 25 feet from the hoop, with a defender nearby.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on February 21, 2021, 05:21:39 PM
Many of us used to say the same when Sam was here. He was a good post-up player and we wanted him to do it more.

Sam had a very good game yesterday. But down the stretch he missed his last 2 shots, including a wide-open 3, got the ball stolen from him, and also got away with an obvious travel.

And in defense of Clark, Sam didn’t work to get open on the final play. He just stood 25 feet from the hoop, with a defender nearby.

He needs a coach that will get him the ball
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on February 25, 2021, 06:39:19 AM
Sam 21 and 2 in Cavs loss to NC State.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 25, 2021, 07:20:44 AM
Sam 21 and 2 in Cavs loss to NC State.

Ice cold first half (2 points) and red hot 2nd half (19 points).

Virginia on a 3 game losing streak.  As I thought, a good but not great team.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 25, 2021, 07:57:05 AM
Current Standings:

ACC

Marquette, 1-0
Virginia, 11-4


Big Ten

Marquette, 1-0
Wisconsin, 10-7
Michigan State, 6-9
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: #UnleashKolek on February 25, 2021, 09:29:32 AM
Current Standings:

ACC

Marquette, 1-0
Virginia, 11-4


Big Ten

Marquette, 1-0
Wisconsin, 10-7
Michigan State, 6-9

Just don't post the big east standings  ;D
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on February 25, 2021, 10:50:56 AM
Sam is used to late season losing streaks.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Oldgym on February 25, 2021, 04:15:04 PM
This was a good thread to stumble into.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 25, 2021, 07:14:34 PM
Sam is used to late season losing streaks.

Only Wojo-coached Sam is. Bennett-coached Sam wasn't supposed to be.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on February 26, 2021, 12:01:27 AM
Joey with some clutch shots, bores, and D down the stretch as MSU takes down OSU. Don’t look now but Sparty may be back on the bubble.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on February 26, 2021, 04:08:11 PM
Joey with some clutch shots, bores, and D down the stretch as MSU takes down OSU. Don’t look now but Sparty may be back on the bubble.

Hope Michigan sweeps them to end the season. The meltdown by Saint Izzo would be amazing
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on February 26, 2021, 04:25:31 PM
Izzo says they are playing for their 21-22 scholarships, suddenly the team starts playing defense and making shots.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jockey on February 26, 2021, 07:21:46 PM
Top 100 draftable guys by San Vecenie  on The Athletic.

No MU guys - although he listed his next 10 and Dawson was at 105 "Marquette’s Dawson Garcia has some real offensive skill as a ballhandler and shooter, but he’s awful defensively right now. He needs to get stronger and prove himself there. Should go back to school and keep improving his game.

No mention of either of the Stevens Point All-Americans. Not surprised that Dawson was rated higher than either.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on February 26, 2021, 09:03:41 PM
Top 100 draftable guys by San Vecenie  on The Athletic.

No MU guys - although he listed his next 10 and Dawson was at 105 "Marquette’s Dawson Garcia has some real offensive skill as a ballhandler and shooter, but he’s awful defensively right now. He needs to get stronger and prove himself there. Should go back to school and keep improving his game.

No mention of either of the Stevens Point All-Americans. Not surprised that Dawson was rated higher than either.

That's interesting. I'm not certain, of course, but I think Sam plays in the league. I'm even less certain about Dawson. Frankly, I'd take Carton ahead of either of them (and I'm not sure I'd take him, either).
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on February 26, 2021, 09:26:51 PM
Just don't post the big east standings  ;D

Marquette 6-10
Michigan State 0-0
Wisconsin 0-1
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 26, 2021, 10:04:18 PM
Marquette 6-10
Michigan State 0-0
Wisconsin 0-1

And based on results vs teams with a pulse.

Safe to assume Virginia gets boat raced against Nova and would be 0-1 if not cancelled!!!!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 01, 2021, 02:18:58 PM
Marquette 6-10
Michigan State 0-0
Wisconsin 0-1

Not Hauser related, but:

North Carolina 0-1
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on March 01, 2021, 06:07:53 PM
Joey 11 and 8 in 26 minutes in the Spartans loss to Maryland yesterday.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on March 01, 2021, 08:28:10 PM
Sam 18 and 6 In the Cavs win over The U
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 02, 2021, 07:30:55 PM
In Joey's first 5 minutes, Indiana was attacking Joey on almost every possession.  Either by having his guy set the high screen, as Sparty is switching everything, or by isolating on the wing and having his man attack.   4 straight times.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 02, 2021, 08:02:22 PM
In Joey's first 5 minutes, Indiana was attacking Joey on almost every possession.  Either by having his guy set the high screen, as Sparty is switching everything, or by isolating on the wing and having his man attack.   4 straight times.

I blame Markus.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist on March 02, 2021, 08:08:49 PM
Its really going to be a shame if the spartans streak of 23 straight NCAAs comes to an end in Joey's first year with the program
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 03, 2021, 08:21:22 AM
Its really going to be a shame if the spartans streak of 23 straight NCAAs comes to an end in Joey's first year with the program

He’s a massive liability on defense and at times, lazy on offense when it comes to setting screens.  I didn’t see him earlier this year, so I’m not sure if it’s frustration at the moment but I can see why his playing time is erratic.  He “wanted” hard coaching, well, he’s getting it.  He was always the higher rated prospect but I wonder when it’s all said and done if Sam doesn’t have the better overall college career
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 03, 2021, 09:59:04 AM
He’s a massive liability on defense and at times, lazy on offense when it comes to setting screens.  I didn’t see him earlier this year, so I’m not sure if it’s frustration at the moment but I can see why his playing time is erratic.  He “wanted” hard coaching, well, he’s getting it.  He was always the higher rated prospect but I wonder when it’s all said and done if Sam doesn’t have the better overall college career

There's no reason to wonder, Rico. The evidence has been presented and the jury has ruled strongly in Sam's favor.

One is a fine all-around player who made the very most of the abilities he has. The other got used to hearing how wonderful he was, and the truth has really been a shock to his system. High maintenance and low production is a bad combination for any coach to have to deal with.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on March 03, 2021, 12:51:01 PM
Joey 6 4 and 2 in the Spartans win over Indiana. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on March 05, 2021, 07:06:10 PM
Joey 6 4 and 2 in the Spartans loss to Michigan yesterday. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 05, 2021, 07:15:24 PM
Consistent!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 06, 2021, 09:12:55 AM
Consistent!

He rode the pine as they were being blown out and saw mostly garbage time
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 06, 2021, 01:01:25 PM
He rode the pine as they were being blown out and saw mostly garbage time

But ya gotta admit that he consistently does that very well.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 06, 2021, 01:38:10 PM
But ya gotta admit that he consistently does that very well.

He writes his best letters from the bench.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 06, 2021, 01:57:07 PM
I watched very little of that last game, and it was garbage time when I tuned in -- just in time to hear Dickie V criticize Izzo for not getting Hauser more looks.

It wasn't sharp criticism. Dickie V doesn't do that. He said something like, "Michigan State is having a rare bad season. One thing they need to do is figure out how to get somebody like Hauser more touches."
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jables1604 on March 06, 2021, 02:02:08 PM
I watched very little of that last game, and it was garbage time when I tuned in -- just in time to hear Dickie V criticize Izzo for not getting Hauser more looks.

It wasn't sharp criticism. Dickie V doesn't do that. He said something like, "Michigan State is having a rare bad season. One thing they need to do is figure out how to get somebody like Hauser more touches."
Maybe Dukie V was the ghostwriter of the letter...
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on March 06, 2021, 08:08:30 PM
Sam 24 8 and 1 in the Cavs win over Louisville.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 06, 2021, 10:36:12 PM
Very nice stretch to close out the regular season for the Hauser who's actually good at basketball.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on March 07, 2021, 07:02:55 PM
Joey with 11 and 5 in the Spartans win over Michigan in the season finale. Got in foul trouble covering Hunter Dickinson,the Wolverines 7-1 255 pound center
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: CTWarrior on March 08, 2021, 09:44:27 AM
Sam picked first team all-ACC.

https://247sports.com/college/virginia/Article/Atlantic-Coast-Conference-announces-All-ACC-Teams-Player-of-the-Year-Coach-of-the-Year-Sixth-Man-of-the-Year-Defensive-Player-of-the-Year-Freshman-of-the-Year-awards-162045851/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 08, 2021, 10:22:06 AM
Sam picked first team all-ACC.

https://247sports.com/college/virginia/Article/Atlantic-Coast-Conference-announces-All-ACC-Teams-Player-of-the-Year-Coach-of-the-Year-Sixth-Man-of-the-Year-Defensive-Player-of-the-Year-Freshman-of-the-Year-awards-162045851/

Good on Sam. Beat out VaTech's Aluma by 4 points. Sam's a heck of a player.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 08, 2021, 12:16:22 PM
Happy for Sam.  Really bummed he left, but in hindsight it was the perfect move for him personally.  Had he stayed, he would have been done last year, and the tourney was cancelled*.  As it works out, he sat out the year to get healthy, is on a decent team, and gets to dance this year. 

* Assuming the letter didn't also contain the original strain of Covid.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 08, 2021, 01:12:41 PM
Happy for Sam.  Really bummed he left, but in hindsight it was the perfect move for him personally.  Had he stayed, he would have been done last year, and the tourney was cancelled*.  As it works out, he sat out the year to get healthy, is on a decent team, and gets to dance this year. 

* Assuming the letter didn't also contain the original strain of Covid.

Of course, he could have come back to Marquette for a fifth season if he had wanted to.

But yes, this likely was good for Sam. He got different - and almost certainly better - coaching, and he got to play in an entirely different offensive system. And, as you point out, he was able to get totally healthy; he looks much more fit down the stretch this season than he did in 2019.

Still, it's interesting how close his Virginia stats are to his Marquette stats, including his advanced stats. He is who he is, which is a very good college player. I think he'll have a decent shot at the NBA.

As for finally experiencing NCAA tourney success ... I haven't made up my mind how deep a run his Virginia team is likely to have. Right now, bracketmatrix has them as a 5-seed, and I certainly could see them being a victim of one of the infamous 5/12 upsets. But it obviously won't be any shorter of a run than he had at Marquette -- and as you said, he'd have had no tourney at all last season.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on March 08, 2021, 01:14:59 PM
Of course, he could have come back to Marquette for a fifth season if he had wanted to.

But yes, this likely was good for Sam. He got different - and almost certainly better - coaching, and he got to play in an entirely different offensive system. And, as you point out, he was able to get totally healthy; he looks much more fit down the stretch this season than he did in 2019.

Still, it's interesting how close his Virginia stats are to his Marquette stats, including his advanced stats. He is who he is, which is a very good college player. I think he'll have a decent shot at the NBA.

As for finally experiencing NCAA tourney success ... I haven't made up my mind how deep a run his Virginia team is likely to have. Right now, bracketmatrix has them as a 5-seed, and I certainly could see them being a victim of one of the infamous 5/12 upsets. But it obviously won't be any shorter of a run than he had at Marquette -- and as you said, he'd have had no tourney at all last season.

Why could he have come back to Marquette for a fifth season?  Unless he was going to redshirt his senior season to avoid playing with Markus.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 08, 2021, 01:24:57 PM
Why could he have come back to Marquette for a fifth season?  Unless he was going to redshirt his senior season to avoid playing with Markus.

Weren't players allowed to return for a fifth season due to COVID-19? If not, I was mistaken and never mind that line. The rest of my post stands.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 08, 2021, 01:30:37 PM
Of course, he could have come back to Marquette for a fifth season if he had wanted to.

But yes, this likely was good for Sam. He got different - and almost certainly better - coaching, and he got to play in an entirely different offensive system. And, as you point out, he was able to get totally healthy; he looks much more fit down the stretch this season than he did in 2019.

Still, it's interesting how close his Virginia stats are to his Marquette stats, including his advanced stats. He is who he is, which is a very good college player. I think he'll have a decent shot at the NBA.

As for finally experiencing NCAA tourney success ... I haven't made up my mind how deep a run his Virginia team is likely to have. Right now, bracketmatrix has them as a 5-seed, and I certainly could see them being a victim of one of the infamous 5/12 upsets. But it obviously won't be any shorter of a run than he had at Marquette -- and as you said, he'd have had no tourney at all last season.

This year is the "free" year.  Seniors last year didn't have that option.  So in theory, he could still stick around another year. still because of his decision.  Like I said, that's all in hindsight, but it worked out well for him.

Agree - I don't know that VA is going to make that much noise.  But he does get a NCAA game at least.  The only thing the MU/UNC game proved to me is the ACC is probably hot garbage this year.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 08, 2021, 02:50:51 PM
This year is the "free" year.  Seniors last year didn't have that option.  So in theory, he could still stick around another year. still because of his decision.  Like I said, that's all in hindsight, but it worked out well for him.

Agree - I don't know that VA is going to make that much noise.  But he does get a NCAA game at least.  The only thing the MU/UNC game proved to me is the ACC is probably hot garbage this year.  We'll see.

Thanks for the clarification.

In that case, it ended up being the perfect decision for Sam.

Do you think he'll play in the NBA? I like his combination of shooting ability and basketball IQ.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 08, 2021, 11:15:55 PM
Do you think he'll play in the NBA? I like his combination of shooting ability and basketball IQ.

I could easily see him getting a shot (no pun intended) in the NBA.  However, I have a hard time believing he'll stick anywhere.

Though the Novak comparison came up in another thread - and while I think Novak is a far better shooter, if Sam can make a roster in the "right situation" there's a chance he'll get paid.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 09, 2021, 06:08:10 AM
Sam will make a roster. He lacks quickness, which is a problem for him. But, overall he's got talent and one hell of a loss for MU. Hausergate was the beginning of the end for Woj, aina?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 09, 2021, 07:29:28 AM
Sam will make a roster. He lacks quickness, which is a problem for him. But, overall he's got talent and one hell of a loss for MU. Hausergate was the beginning of the end for Woj, aina?

Absolutely about Hausershima being the beginning of the end. Before mommy and daddy H helped their baby boys with the letter-writing mutiny, even some of the Nojos were starting to reluctantly give the coach props. Including even you IIRC.

But that scarred the program badly. Even though the Hausers obviously share in the blame,  it ultimately was on Wojo because keeping good locker room chemistry is one of a coach’s main jobs. Leaders must take responsibility for terrible things that happen on their watch - I know you totally agree with me on that.

Sam definitely has a legit shot at the NBA. There are worse athletes on rosters right now. He can shoot, he’s long and he understands basketball. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s in the league for multiple seasons.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 09, 2021, 07:30:43 AM
1. Better coach
2. Better program
3. Better school
4. ACC regular season champion
5. ACC 1st team All Star
6. 4th in ACC POY balloting
7. A chance in the NCAA tournament
8. Good health after sitting out a year

I’m disappointed he left MU, but is there any doubt that it was the right decision? If he has a regret it’s that he didn’t make the move earlier.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on March 09, 2021, 07:39:08 AM
Happy for Sam.  Really bummed he left, but in hindsight it was the perfect move for him personally.  Had he stayed, he would have been done last year, and the tourney was cancelled*.  As it works out, he sat out the year to get healthy, is on a decent team, and gets to dance this year. 

* Assuming the letter didn't also contain the original strain of Covid.


That truly made me laugh out loud. You won the internet yesterday!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on March 09, 2021, 07:52:25 AM
Thanks for the clarification.

In that case, it ended up being the perfect decision for Sam.

Do you think he'll play in the NBA? I like his combination of shooting ability and basketball IQ.
Playing devil's advocate, did playing the year at Virginia help his draft status? If not, maybe the best decision for him would have been to stay at Marquette last year, and he might be in the now NBA making good money.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jockey on March 09, 2021, 09:53:04 AM
I could easily see him getting a shot (no pun intended) in the NBA.  However, I have a hard time believing he'll stick anywhere.

Though the Novak comparison came up in another thread - and while I think Novak is a far better shooter, if Sam can make a roster in the "right situation" there's a chance he'll get paid.

I mostly agree except I doubt he will even make a roster.

He is a very good shooter, but not elite by NBA standards. He won’t be able to guard any ‘3’ in the NBA. Good college player, but not NBA quality.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 09, 2021, 09:59:38 AM
I mostly agree except I doubt he will even make a roster.

He is a very good shooter, but not elite by NBA standards. He won’t be able to guard any ‘3’ in the NBA. Good college player, but not NBA quality.

He had a hard time creating space in the college game and when he did, as you wrote, he is simply a very good shooter and not elite. Unsure how he'll be able to create space in American professional basketball. Defenders at the G League level won't be troubled by him.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on March 09, 2021, 10:10:10 AM
Sam will make a roster. He lacks quickness, which is a problem for him. But, overall he's got talent and one hell of a loss for MU. Hausergate was the beginning of the end for Woj, aina?

I could see him making a training camp roster, but not sure he can stick in the NBA. He’s a great shooter but don’t know if he can guard anyone at the NBA level. Or if he can create his own shot.

Novak made a long career of it, but was a few inches taller and was always flirting with being out of the league.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 09, 2021, 10:30:46 AM
Sam will make a roster. He lacks quickness, which is a problem for him. But, overall he's got talent and one hell of a loss for MU. Hausergate was the beginning of the end for Woj, aina?

Yeah, it was a shame but that’s todays youth.  Soft, soft, soft.  Demand your coach change and then pout and leave when he doesn’t.  Parents are probably lefties
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 09, 2021, 10:41:53 AM
I could see him making a training camp roster, but not sure he can stick in the NBA. He’s a great shooter but don’t know if he can guard anyone at the NBA level. Or if he can create his own shot.

Novak made a long career of it, but was a few inches taller and was always flirting with being out of the league.

Novak's release was so much quicker than Sam's, too.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 09, 2021, 10:48:10 AM
1. Better coach
2. Better program
3. Better school
4. ACC regular season champion
5. ACC 1st team All Star
6. 4th in ACC POY balloting
7. A chance in the NCAA tournament
8. Good health after sitting out a year

I’m disappointed he left MU, but is there any doubt that it was the right decision? If he has a regret it’s that he didn’t make the move earlier.


The only doubt would be that he ended up a year further out from actually making money playing the sport.  But maybe that just wasn't that important to him.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on March 09, 2021, 10:52:28 AM

The only doubt would be that he ended up a year further out from actually making money playing the sport.  But maybe that just wasn't that important to him.

I'll just trust that Lenny knows Sam has no regrets, other than maybe making a move sooner.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 09, 2021, 11:12:36 AM
Wojo's mistake was not kicking them off the team immediately upon receipt of the letter.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 09, 2021, 03:26:42 PM
I'll just trust that Lenny knows Sam has no regrets, other than maybe making a move sooner.

Thank you for your trust! Winning it every day is paramount to me.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 09, 2021, 03:55:04 PM
Wojo's mistake was not kicking them off the team immediately upon receipt of the letter.

I disagree - Wojo's mistake was letting it get to a point that a letter seemed like a good idea.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 09, 2021, 04:17:55 PM
Forever going to disagree.   The letter came at 23-4 with an all American point guard.

And a coach should back his team captain versus an unhappy freshman.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 09, 2021, 08:00:45 PM
Forever going to disagree.   The letter came at 23-4 with an all American point guard.

And a coach should back his team captain versus an unhappy freshman.

We know for certain thats when the letter happened?? I hadn't heard that part(or followed closely enough).
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: TSmith34 on March 09, 2021, 09:06:47 PM
I disagree - Wojo's mistake was letting it get to a point that a letter seemed like a good idea.
I agree, should never have gotten to that point.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 09, 2021, 09:31:43 PM
Forever going to disagree.   The letter came at 23-4 with an all American point guard.

And a coach should back his team captain versus an unhappy freshman.

?

What’s your source that there even was a letter, let alone a date certain when it was delivered to Wojo?

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: SERocks on March 10, 2021, 07:34:18 AM
Someone should do a freedom of information request or something.   Maybe in 20 years the letter ends up in the archives of the library.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 10, 2021, 07:43:49 AM
?

What’s your source that there even was a letter, let alone a date certain when it was delivered to Wojo?


Plenty of people here an elsewhere suggest something was written.  Go back into the old topics and read if you would like.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 10, 2021, 08:20:06 AM
Someone should do a freedom of information request or something.   Maybe in 20 years the letter ends up in the archives of the library.

I recently snuck into The Raynor and took a snap of Wojo's whiteboard preserved in the archives. It clearly shows the ball should bypass the Hauser Twins at all times, and Markus should climb the lonely mountain all by himself. The only problem with this strategy is Wojo doesn't stress bulgaring on defense and this plan required a steal.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0a/62/8d/0a628d1bd11a117252e1166ab3464495.jpg)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on March 10, 2021, 08:22:41 AM
I recently snuck into The Raynor and took a snap of Wojo's whiteboard preserved in the archives. It clearly shows the ball should bypass the Hauser Twins at all times, and Markus should climb the lonely mountain all by himself. The only problem with this strategy is Wojo doesn't stress bulgaring on defense and this plan required a steal.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0a/62/8d/0a628d1bd11a117252e1166ab3464495.jpg)

I was always under the impression he never replaced the whiteboard he punched through, so while he intended to have the Hausers on the whiteboard, they just happened to always be where the hole in the whiteboard was.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 10, 2021, 09:06:18 AM
If only some Scoopers liked our current players -- the ones who give everything they have to the team and are great representatives of Marquette -- as much as they continue to like those who ruined a promising season, quit the team and left the program reeling.

Disclaimer 1: I said "some," meaning more than one.

Disclaimer 2: As always, I am not putting all the blame on those who quit; it is the coach's job to keep his team operating on the same page, and therefore he gets most of the blame.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Lens on March 10, 2021, 12:50:05 PM
I'm sure the letter begged for more shots for Joey.  It's obvious how selfish the Hausers are.  Anytime you transfer to UVA and MSU, it's abundantly clear that you are just a ME, ME, ME player.  And Stevens Point has a long history of producing me first players.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on March 10, 2021, 01:00:09 PM
I'm sure the letter begged for more shots for Joey.  It's obvious how selfish the Hausers are.  Anytime you transfer to UVA and MSU, it's abundantly clear that you are just a ME, ME, ME player.  And Stevens Point has a long history of producing me first players.

Right.  As has been stated here, they wanted more shots for Ed Morrow, Theo John, Jamal Cain, Sacar Anim, and Greg Elliott.

The reason we aren't as good as we should be is because those are the caliber of player we have on the roster right now.  So maybe Wojo knew having Markus shoot the ball a lot and those guys shoot the ball not a lot was the best way to win basketball games, and the Hausers didn't know what was best for the team.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 10, 2021, 04:09:11 PM
I'm sure the letter begged for more shots for Joey. It's obvious how selfish the Hausers are.  Anytime you transfer to UVA and MSU, it's abundantly clear that you are just a ME, ME, ME player.  And Stevens Point has a long history of producing me first players.

This was supposed to be in teal, right?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on March 11, 2021, 01:59:34 PM
Sam 21 5 and 3 in the Cavs win over Cuse in ACC Tournament.

Joey 4 1 and 1 in Spartans loss to Maryland in Big Ten Tournament

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jockey on March 11, 2021, 02:53:36 PM
For the 2nd year in a row, Joey has showed us who he is.

Maybe it's time to start believing him.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 11, 2021, 02:55:19 PM
Two years out of 3.  Sat out last year.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jockey on March 11, 2021, 05:24:26 PM
Two years out of 3.  Sat out last year.

Nailing me on a technicality. I semi-deserve it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 11, 2021, 07:33:01 PM
Hey, Joey had as many point as fouls. Leave him alone.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: nyg on March 11, 2021, 08:40:39 PM
Hey, Joey had as many point as fouls. Leave him alone.

In 13 total minutes played.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 11, 2021, 08:41:23 PM
Will he be back?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 11, 2021, 09:00:29 PM

Plenty of people here an elsewhere suggest something was written.  Go back into the old topics and read if you would like.

Plenty of people “suggest” or even state as fact patently false things on Scoop. You did earlier today. Twice. I appreciated the apology when you were proven wrong. Tower has been beating this drum for almost 2 years without evidence (at least that he’s shared) that a letter even exists, let alone when it was delivered to Wojo. But it suits a narrative, so let’s pretend. LOL.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 11, 2021, 11:20:16 PM
Will he be back?

I'd guess yes. And I wouldn't be surprised if Joey has a decent 2021-22 season for MSU.

How many years of college eligibility does he have left?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 12, 2021, 02:01:52 AM
Plenty of people “suggest” or even state as fact patently false things on Scoop. You did earlier today. Twice. I appreciated the apology when you were proven wrong. Tower has been beating this drum for almost 2 years without evidence (at least that he’s shared) that a letter even exists, let alone when it was delivered to Wojo. But it suits a narrative, so let’s pretend. LOL.

I mean, hard to prove a letter between the Hauser family and Wojo Exists.  But, VAScoopers are willing to recognize that Bennet would have handled the situation similarly:
https://247sports.com/college/virginia/Board/16/Contents/Hauser-Intel-on-why-they-are-transferring-131786918/
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Reason for transferring was essentially an issue beteeen Markus and Joey Hauser. Markus challenged Joey (with sams permission) early in the year to be tougher. Joey didn’t respond well to that. Things degraded from there. Hauser parents sent letter to wojo about it, no one on team support that move. Markus tried to help relationship by deferring for a stretch of games but ultimately every possession ended up in his hands anyways. After Murray st Markus and Joey had a confrontation. Wojo didn’t step in to stop it, he said the players need to resolve. So when Markus returned Joey was gone. Sam ultimately sided with family(he and Markus are cool). Hausers approached a coach (word is Bennett) who said he would have handled it the same as wojo. Also said if Joey didn’t transfer, two players on the team would have left.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 12, 2021, 05:31:00 AM
That has been reported enough places that I accept it as likely.   And the timing has also been mentioned many places.   The only difference is that I blame an unhappy freshman.

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Board/104085/Contents/The-Letter-131282124/?Page=3


Another version saying essentially the same thing.   Scroll down to the post of 'hackleft'
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on March 12, 2021, 06:16:56 AM
Joey was gaslit his entire life to believe he was something he was not.  He was naturally better than anyone he played ball against until he got to college.  Where we all know he has been challenged.  Admitting the reality to himself was not something his 18 year old mind was ready to deal with.  Hopefully he has grown a bit since sitting out a year at MSU and having a similar year stat wise to his freshman year.  One and done, indeed, Joey.

Either way, I am enjoying the schadenfreude from my home.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 12, 2021, 08:00:06 AM
I mean, hard to prove a letter between the Hauser family and Wojo Exists.  But, VAScoopers are willing to recognize that Bennet would have handled the situation similarly:
https://247sports.com/college/virginia/Board/16/Contents/Hauser-Intel-on-why-they-are-transferring-131786918/

We have seen similar here, though that was an interesting read that provided further insight -- such as Sam giving his approval to Markus showing Joey tough love; the letter actually coming from Mommy and Daddy (no doubt with Joey's seal of approval); and Bennett saying he would have handled it the exact same way Wojo did.

Using 20/20 hindsight ...

For Marquette, obviously the best thing that could have happened would have been for Wojo to have been more forceful in pushing Markus to share the ball, for Joey to have been less sensitive about criticism, for Wojo (or Stan or whomever) to have been better about quelling the mutiny, and for Mommy and Daddy to have not enabled their baby boy so much.

Had all that happened, we might have finished 2018-19 with a BEast title, a higher seed and a couple of NCAA tourney wins; and even if a couple of role players quit, we would have been a very good team last season, though ultimately would have been sad by the way the coronavirus killed the NCAAs. Sam might be in the NBA right now; and Joey would have been expected to have been this season's star, with Garcia no doubt opting to go elsewhere.

The above also probably would have resulted in Wojo getting a big contract extension.

Knowing what we all know now, it's also hard to envision Joey as Marquette's No. 1 player, though if DJ and Lewis still arrived, he might have had a lot of confidence and played better for us than he has for MSU in the gauntlet that is the Big 14 this season.

The second-best outcome would have been for Joey to have left but Sam to have stayed. We still would have had a very good 2019-20 season that, like Dayton's and others' seasons, would have ended in COVID-19 disappointment. And we still would have gotten Garcia. Wojo would have been trashed for having lost Joey, and this season probably still would have sucked.

In the end, we would have been better off had Joey decided to go to MSU in the first place - although Wojo would have gotten absolutely killed on Scoop. "He couldn't even get the brother? I guess Sam must really hate it here. What a message that sends to recruits everywhere."

Hausershima ended up hurting almost everybody involved. Wojo the most; Joey for being exposed as a whiny little brat who actually seems to have digressed while playing for a coach far better than Wojo; Marquette fans; some of the supporting players who stuck around only to be proven to be weak down the stretch last season and this season. Even Markus, who scored a ton but who earned a reputation (among some, anyway) of being super-selfish (and even a "cancer," according to at least one Scooper).

Sacar benefited, getting a much bigger role, and Bailey benefited for awhile. But the biggest beneficiary was Sam, who had a year off to get completely healthy, who got to work with a great coach at a fine program, who got to play for the defending NCAA champions (pandemic year removed), and who got to be a standout for a team with Final Four aspirations (I don't think they'll get there, but they no doubt think they have a chance).

Despite all the evidence to the contrary, there will be Scoopers who will never be convinced that the Hausers were even 1% to blame for Hausershima. Even though Joey, now 2 years older, is still an immature, overrated player with helicopter parents.

The whole episode was a sad chapter in Marquette basketball history, and one of the sad parts is that quite a few supposed Marquette fans have decided to continue to root for and defend guys who quit on the program rather than those who stuck it out and worked their arses off to keep wearing blue and gold.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: dgies9156 on March 12, 2021, 08:04:21 AM
Joey was gaslit his entire life to believe he was something he was not.  He was naturally better than anyone he played ball against until he got to college.  Where we all know he has been challenged.  Admitting the reality to himself was not something his 18 year old mind was ready to deal with.  Hopefully he has grown a bit since sitting out a year at MSU and having a similar year stat wise to his freshman year.  One and done, indeed, Joey.

Either way, I am enjoying the schadenfreude from my home.

This is one of the biggest challenges facing high school athletes. By the time one is a high school upper classman, his or her talent is apparent. They may be much better than anyone around them on either team and the differential in quality means the offense and, maybe, defense, operates through the talented one. I get that in the conference where SPASH competes, there's probably a couple of really good players, but by and large, the talent is nowhere near what a player expects to see once they get to the BEast or the B10.

Both Messrs Joey Hauser and Henry Ellenson were unbelievable high school athletes. But they played such national basketball powers as Wausau West or Spooner on a weekly basis. Unless a coach is truly outstanding and keeps a player from becoming lazy, bad habits set in. From what I saw, Joey had really bad habits. High school coaches are loathe to deal with this and even college coaches have trouble managing talents of this magnitude. There were times watching Henry when I was screaming at Wojo to sit him down. Henry was reacting to his critics who complained he couldn't do "this or that," rather than becoming part of a team.

Yes, I know, there is AAU ball and all, where the talent is much better. But as bad habits set in, they are hard to break.

I often think of Michael Jordan. He and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar were the two smartest basketball players I ever saw. What made Jordan special is that while he knew he had extraordinary talent, he had the best work ethic I ever saw. That's what made Michael special. In the glimpses I had of Joey and Henry, I didn't think either one of them had the work ethic. Surprisingly, I thought Sam did.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 12, 2021, 08:48:01 AM
So another couple of pages of speculation and name calling with no evidence - par for the course.

IMO everyone truly involved in the story - Wojo, Sam, Joey, Markus, the parents, Izzo and Bennett - have comported themselves with class and dignity.

Scoop? (And I include myself) - not so much.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 12, 2021, 08:53:54 AM
So another couple of pages of speculation and name calling with no evidence - par for the course.

IMO everyone truly involved in the story - Wojo, Sam, Joey, Markus, the parents, Izzo and Bennett - have comported themselves with class and dignity.

Scoop? (And I include myself) - not so much.
Do you expect somebody on Scoop to produce a photo copy of the letter (if there is one)?  What exactly are you complaining about?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 12, 2021, 08:59:08 AM
Do you expect somebody on Scoop to produce a photo copy of the letter (if there is one)?  What exactly are you complaining about?

That idiots like you make up sh@tand pass it off as fact. Clear?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on March 12, 2021, 09:15:21 AM
So another couple of pages of speculation and name calling with no evidence - par for the course.

IMO everyone truly involved in the story - Wojo, Sam, Joey, Markus, the parents, Izzo and Bennett - have comported themselves with class and dignity.

Scoop? (And I include myself) - not so much.
Why did you put Sam and Joey's name in front of Markus? Clearly you hate Marquette.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 12, 2021, 09:20:30 AM
That idiots like you make up sh@tand pass it off as fact. Clear?

Ok, let's take the facts that we know. Two brothers really wanted to play together in college. They both decide to transfer, have the opportunity to play together for a top 25 program, but then end up at 2 separate schools.

So maybe they didn't love playing together that much. And maybe a short guard that could score in bunches was not the problem. Yes I know, neither of those two statements are facts, so people shouldn't spew them either.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 12, 2021, 09:41:31 AM
Lenny, make up a different narrative that fits your observations and the demonstrable facts and pass it off as fact.

The Hausers left.   After Markus announced he was staying.   Everyone else stayed.  There was an instagram post showing a happy looking team finishing their workout and storming Wojo's office to mob him a couple of days later.

There was a lot of internet speculation.  This included a number of stories about a letter.   You choose to not believe the letter narrative.

Now, the Sparty message board version was that the rift started because Joey didn't appreciate Markus' piety in his team leadership.   I was asked about this a few times by Spartan friends.

So what do you choose to believe?   And why?   I know that my opinion has been formed by the convergence of narratives.   What is the basis for your dismissal of the letter?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 12, 2021, 09:43:39 AM
The Hausers should have used power point
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 12, 2021, 10:16:20 AM
Ok, let's take the facts that we know. Two brothers really wanted to play together in college. They both decide to transfer, have the opportunity to play together for a top 25 program, but then end up at 2 separate schools.

So maybe they didn't love playing together that much. And maybe a short guard that could score in bunches was not the problem. Yes I know, neither of those two statements are facts, so people shouldn't spew them either.

Rocky,

Expressing an opinion (and saying as much) based on facts we know is fine - it’s what Scoop is all about. The facts we know are that Sam and Joey left. It’s also a given that they were unhappy - happy players don’t transfer. I might not share your opinion but it’s certainly plausible. Weaving a narrative (logical IMO or not) based on facts is totally fair.

IOW, if one wants to say “Sam and Joey left (fact) and anyone who leaves MU is a “traitor”, that’s fine. I’d disagree, but it’s fine. What’s not fine? Saying Sam, Joey and their parents are (fill in the blank with whatever insult you choose) - and as proof I’ll cite the timing and the contents of a letter they wrote to Wojo - without even being able to offer proof that such a letter was written.

I should never use a word like “idiot”. I have had nothing but unpleasant back and forths with ATL but that’s no excuse. For that I apologize.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on March 12, 2021, 10:20:21 AM
Rocky,

Expressing an opinion (and saying as much) based on facts we know is fine - it’s what Scoop is all about. The facts we know are that Sam and Joey left. It’s also a given that they were unhappy - happy players don’t transfer. I might not share your opinion but it’s certainly plausible. Weaving a narrative logical IMO or not) based on facts is totally fair.

IOW, if one wants to say “Sam and Joey left (fact) and anyone who leaves MU is a “traitor”, that’s fine. I’d disagree, but it’s fine. What’s not fine? Saying Sam, Joey and their parents are (fill in the blank with whatever insult you choose) - and as proof I’ll cite the timing and the contents of a letter they wrote to Wojo - without even being able to offer proof that such a letter was written.

I should never use a word like “idiot”. I have had nothing but unpleasant back and forths with ATL but that’s no excuse. For that I apologize.

There are more than a few people who have had negative interactions with Mrs. Hauser.  Some in Madison, some in Milwaukee.  Funny that we give them a pass, but we have fans that lay into Carton's mom, Blue's family and Maymon's dad. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 12, 2021, 10:36:46 AM
Lenny, make up a different narrative that fits your observations and the demonstrable facts and pass it off as fact.

The Hausers left.   After Markus announced he was staying.   Everyone else stayed.  There was an instagram post showing a happy looking team finishing their workout and storming Wojo's office to mob him a couple of days later.

There was a lot of internet speculation.  This included a number of stories about a letter.   You choose to not believe the letter narrative.

Now, the Sparty message board version was that the rift started because Joey didn't appreciate Markus' piety in his team leadership.   I was asked about this a few times by Spartan friends.

So what do you choose to believe?   And why?   I know that my opinion has been formed by the convergence of narratives.   What is the basis for your dismissal of the letter?

Tower

Joey didn’t like Markus’s “piety”, Joey is a whiny baby, Sam and Joey left hunting more shots, Sam and Joey preferred a team concept to a one man show, their parents made them do it - all speculation, pick the one that makes you feel best and seems most logical. Fair.

Not fair? Using a “fact”  to bolster you argument/narrative that isn’t a fact at all. You know when the letter was written, you know the letter’s contents and you know the authors - but you don’t even know if such a letter ever existed.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 12, 2021, 11:01:51 AM
Lenny-

To me, whether or not there was a “letter” doesn’t matter. It’s just a symbol, something fun to talk about.

Fans say stuff like “traitor” and “quitter.” And those words are nice compared to what a guy like Floppy McNutpuncher gets called. Don’t fixate on them. (Or do; you can do whatever you want.)

That Joey is 3+ years into his college experience and is with a blueblood program and a Hall of Fame coach but is STILL a disappointment - arguably the biggest disappointment in college hoops this season - makes me think that his problems at Marquette might have been more about Joey than about Marquette, Wojo, Markus or anyone else.

Sam was caught between a rock and a hard place. He was a Warrior.

All of the above are my opinions. I happen to think they are rooted in logic and based on the facts we know. Have a good one.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MUfan12 on March 12, 2021, 11:06:04 AM
This was never a Hausers v. Howard thing to me. It's not Markus' fault. It's how he was coached.

Markus' usage was so high that there was no counter move when he didn't have it. We've seen how detrimental that was to the other guys development this year. We've also seen how many flaws in the offense his flamethrower nights covered up.

You can blame Joey, blame the parents, all you want. But it came down, yet again, to the head coach not having a plan B.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 12, 2021, 11:34:45 AM
This was never a Hausers v. Howard thing to me. It's not Markus' fault. It's how he was coached.

Markus' usage was so high that there was no counter move when he didn't have it. We've seen how detrimental that was to the other guys development this year. We've also seen how many flaws in the offense his flamethrower nights covered up.

You can blame Joey, blame the parents, all you want. But it came down, yet again, to the head coach not having a plan B.

Yes. What you say about the coach is true IMHO.

However, I have a pretty strong belief that if Joey had selected MSU from the beginning, Sam Hauser would have happily finished his career at Marquette with his teammate, classmate and friend Markus Howard.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 12, 2021, 11:50:03 AM
Roommate.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 12, 2021, 11:56:29 AM
Roommate.

That too.

There is one thread woven throughout Hausershima, and that's the Markus-Joey dynamic. Sam and Markus were fine, probably more than just fine.

I mean, all folks have to do is think about it.

Sam had already been at Marquette for two years. If the Hauser family had even a scintilla of doubt about Markus and/or Wojo, would they have let their baby go there, too?

Wojo could have and should have handled things better. He was the adult, and managing egos is one of the most important jobs a coach has. It's why I put the lion's share of responsibility of Hausershima on Wojo.

But all was pretty darn good until a certain person joined the team as an active player. And that same person is now having problems finding his role on an entirely different team, coached by a Hall of Famer.

The dots are pretty easy to connect.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 12, 2021, 02:39:43 PM
Virginia has pulled out of the ACC tournament due to Covid.

Status for the Big Dance is uncertain.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 12, 2021, 03:06:14 PM
Virginia has pulled out of the ACC tournament due to Covid.

Status for the Big Dance is uncertain.

That would suck. I hope they can play, and I hope other teams avoid this.

This would have been a very good season to skip conference tournaments.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 12, 2021, 04:15:47 PM
This would have been a very good season to skip conference tournaments.

Looks like MU was one step ahead of everyone.  They didn't show up.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 13, 2021, 07:07:17 AM
That idiots like you make up sh@tand pass it off as fact. Clear?
Nice name calling...did you forget to take your medicines or something?  You are the one asking for evidence in multiple posts. What evidence would suffice for you?  Seems like a simple question.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 13, 2021, 07:20:13 AM
Tower

Joey didn’t like Markus’s “piety”, Joey is a whiny baby, Sam and Joey left hunting more shots, Sam and Joey preferred a team concept to a one man show, their parents made them do it - all speculation, pick the one that makes you feel best and seems most logical. Fair.

Not fair? Using a “fact”  to bolster you argument/narrative that isn’t a fact at all. You know when the letter was written, you know the letter’s contents and you know the authors - but you don’t even know if such a letter ever existed.


There is someone who regularly posts here, who posted in another forum details about who wrote the letter, who signed the letter and when it was delivered to Wojo.  I will not rehash it because it was posted in a private forum.  If that poster wishes to share what he knows, that is up to him.

But the short of it is that there was indeed a letter written by the Brothers Hauser.

I don't know what you want for evidence, but many people have been told what happened.  Chose to believe it or not.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 13, 2021, 08:25:49 AM
Lenny, my mind is not closed on this.  I look forward with avid anticipation to anything you might say publicly or privately that would significantly alter my perception.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2021, 09:05:34 AM

There is someone who regularly posts here, who posted in another forum details about who wrote the letter, who signed the letter and when it was delivered to Wojo.  I will not rehash it because it was posted in a private forum.  If that poster wishes to share what he knows, that is up to him.

But the short of it is that there was indeed a letter written by the Brothers Hauser.

I don't know what you want for evidence, but many people have been told what happened.  Chose to believe it or not.

I have been told the same as what you wrote here.  I can also say I’ve been told Sam was not playing last season, too, even if he had stayed in Milwaukee. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on March 13, 2021, 09:15:36 AM
Seems like a situation where nothing short of first-person, viewed-with-their-own-eyes evidence is enough.

Sort of like those who don't believe we landed on the moon.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 13, 2021, 09:46:06 AM

There is someone who regularly posts here, who posted in another forum details about who wrote the letter, who signed the letter and when it was delivered to Wojo.  I will not rehash it because it was posted in a private forum.  If that poster wishes to share what he knows, that is up to him.

But the short of it is that there was indeed a letter written by the Brothers Hauser.

I don't know what you want for evidence, but many people have been told what happened.  Chose to believe it or not.

“Somebody who regularly posts here” has “privately” said that he heard a) a letter was written, b) who signed the letter and c) when it was delivered to Wojo. Since you don’t include what was in the letter I’ll assume the “regular poster” didn’t have that information - which seems really curious.

You can call that proof, you can conclude that a piece of hearsay means that “the short of it is that there was indeed a letter written by the brothers Hauser”. Just as you can conclude that every piece of hearsay written by “regular posters” claiming inside information on Scoop = truth. I disagree.

What has Wojo said? What about his staff? How about Markus? The rest of the ream? Sam? Joey? Dave and Stephanie? Ben Steele or any other journalist covering the team? How easy would it be to “anonymously” leak the information (from any of the principals) to him/them in order to bolster their position? Yet from all of them - crickets.

I don’t know whether a letter was written or not. Neither do you. You believe it based on what someone told you. That’s OK. First hand hearsay is enough for you. Second hand hearsay isn’t enough for me.








Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 13, 2021, 09:54:17 AM
Seems like a situation where nothing short of first-person, viewed-with-their-own-eyes evidence is enough.

Sort of like those who don't believe we landed on the moon.

Right. The Hauser letter and the moon landing are supported by similar evidence. A Scooper PMed a couple of his buddies and said “Guess what? We just landed on the freakin’ moon!”. The rest is history.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 13, 2021, 10:48:17 AM
Lenny, my mind is not closed on this.  I look forward with avid anticipation to anything you might say publicly or privately that would significantly alter my perception.

Tower

I’ll PM later today.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jockey on March 13, 2021, 10:49:33 AM
Right. The Hauser letter and the moon landing are supported by similar evidence. A Scooper PMed a couple of his buddies and said “Guess what? We just landed on the freakin’ moon!”. The rest is history.


It took many decades, but you finally found your hill.  :)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 13, 2021, 11:03:34 AM
“Somebody who regularly posts here” has “privately” said that he heard a) a letter was written, b) who signed the letter and c) when it was delivered to Wojo. Since you don’t include what was in the letter I’ll assume the “regular poster” didn’t have that information - which seems really curious.

You can call that proof, you can conclude that a piece of hearsay means that “the short of it is that there was indeed a letter written by the brothers Hauser”. Just as you can conclude that every piece of hearsay written by “regular posters” claiming inside information on Scoop = truth. I disagree.

What has Wojo said? What about his staff? How about Markus? The rest of the ream? Sam? Joey? Dave and Stephanie? Ben Steele or any other journalist covering the team? How easy would it be to “anonymously” leak the information (from any of the principals) to him/them in order to bolster their position? Yet from all of them - crickets.

I don’t know whether a letter was written or not. Neither do you. You believe it based on what someone told you. That’s OK. First hand hearsay is enough for you. Second hand hearsay isn’t enough for me.


That post (which was made on IWB's private board) echoes what has been said elsewhere.

This isn't a court of law so yes, I can believe a post made by a reputable poster is accurate and be perfectly comfortable with that decision.

Honestly, why are you so fired about this?  The Hausers wrote a letter.  That points to a lack of an environment in which open communication is welcome.  That's on Wojo.  Since I don't know what the letter said (although I have been given an idea), I can't really knock the Hausers for writing it.  Unless I just want to be snarky about it - which is just message board fun.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 13, 2021, 12:42:49 PM
I can also say I’ve been told Sam was not playing last season, too, even if he had stayed in Milwaukee.

Not sure what you mean here, Unk. He was gonna take an injury redshirt?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2021, 01:39:45 PM
Not sure what you mean here, Unk. He was gonna take an injury redshirt?

Yes
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Ardmore Mug on March 13, 2021, 01:43:45 PM
I know from a very reputable source that the letter was written ...  It was either written by, or very heavy influenced by the Parents ... but one caveat not really expressed in this thread, it was also known that 2 maybe 3 players would have left if the Hausers returned...  Hence the "Happy Team" pic and subsequent, happy with pic with Wojo the office ! ! !
 Just sayin' ! ! !   8-)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 13, 2021, 03:38:55 PM
That was the rumor at the time.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: SERocks on March 13, 2021, 05:58:03 PM
I heard the letter was strongly worded.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on March 13, 2021, 06:06:37 PM
Right. The Hauser letter and the moon landing are supported by similar evidence. A Scooper PMed a couple of his buddies and said “Guess what? We just landed on the freakin’ moon!”. The rest is history.

I didn't say the levels of evidence surrounding each event was the same. Please don't put words in my mouth.

What I did say was that they evidence/proof you require to believe this is similar to what some require to believe we landed on the moon.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 13, 2021, 08:59:17 PM
I didn't say the levels of evidence surrounding each event was the same. Please don't put words in my mouth.

What I did say was that they evidence/proof you require to believe this is similar to what some require to believe we landed on the moon.

Actually, what Lenny’s asking for would be the equivalent of Neil Armstrong saying, “I walked on the moon.”  So, if Sam or Joey came out and said, “We wrote a letter asking Wojo to reign in Markus,” then there you’d have it.

But we don’t have that.  No one who was directly involved with the situation has gone on the record to talk about why the Hausers transferred.  The Hausers themselves have been asked this by the media and they won’t say anything (seems like they got some good advice and listened to it).  After their transfer, Wojo lied, he flat out lied, and said he was surprised it happened.  So which was it?  They wrote the letter, and Wojo is a liar for saying he was surprised they transferred?  Or they didn’t write one, and he was legitimately surprised?

Maybe someday we’ll learn the truth, though I kind of doubt it.  But that hasn’t stopped some on this board from spewing vitriol in the Hausers’ direction every time one of them has a subpar game, with all that hate being based on nothing but rumor and innuendo.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 13, 2021, 09:09:12 PM
Actually, what Lenny’s asking for would be the equivalent of Neil Armstrong saying, “I walked on the moon.”  So, if Sam or Joey came out and said, “We wrote a letter asking Wojo to reign in Markus,” then there you’d have it.

But we don’t have that.  No one who was directly involved with the situation has gone on the record to talk about why the Hausers transferred.  The Hausers themselves have been asked this by the media and they won’t say anything (seems like they got some good advice and listened to it).  After their transfer, Wojo lied, he flat out lied, and said he was surprised it happened.  So which was it?  They wrote the letter, and Wojo is a liar for saying he was surprised they transferred?  Or they didn’t write one, and he was legitimately surprised?

Maybe someday we’ll learn the truth, though I kind of doubt it.  But that hasn’t stopped some on this board from spewing vitriol in the Hausers’ direction every time one of them has a subpar game, with all that hate being based on nothing but rumor and innuendo.

That’s not what Wojo said. Here is the quote from his press conference:

“If you would have asked me the day after our season ended if they wouldn't be here next year, I would tell you I would be very, very surprised for somebody to say that. But being in this business long enough, I guess nothing should surprise you.”

So unless you know his thoughts the day after the season ended you have no idea if he lied.

You probably should stop making stuff up.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 13, 2021, 09:32:42 PM
That’s not what Wojo said. Here is the quote from his press conference:

“If you would have asked me the day after our season ended if they wouldn't be here next year, I would tell you I would be very, very surprised for somebody to say that. But being in this business long enough, I guess nothing should surprise you.”

So unless you know his thoughts the day after the season ended you have no idea if he lied.

You probably should stop making stuff up.

So he would be “very, very surprised” they wouldn’t be here next year, despite the fact that they wrote him a letter and tried to start a mutiny.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Mutaman on March 13, 2021, 10:54:46 PM


Sort of like those who don't believe we landed on the moon.

i have a friend who is a big shot at NASA who tells me that Kubrick directed the staged filming. Indeed, Kubrick placed plenty of details in the shining to confirm this and tease everybody.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Mutaman on March 13, 2021, 11:03:24 PM
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Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 14, 2021, 06:12:33 AM
So he would be “very, very surprised” they wouldn’t be here next year, despite the fact that they wrote him a letter and tried to start a mutiny.


The day after the season ended, he may have thought it wasn't that big of an issue.  He clearly found out later it was.

Posting to defend the honor of the Hausers while simultaneously trashing the honor of someone else without evidence is something.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 14, 2021, 08:06:49 AM
Yep, we must stop "hating" the Hausers. It's OK for most Scoopers to "hate" Wojo, though. And for some to "hate" Markus. And Koby. And Theo. And Torrence. And Sacar. And Katin. And Derrick. And Lockett. And Vander. Etc, etc, etc.

It's a fan board. We love Marquette hoops. Whether one thinks the responsibility the Hausers (including Mommy and Daddy) bear is 0.5% or 99.5% or somewhere in between, they bear some responsibility for the ruination of a very promising season and the decline of the program. So there is gonna be at least a little "hate" from some fans. That's how we roll.

Sarcastic remarks about the letter, or about Sam missing potential winning shots for Virginia, or about Joey committing as many turnovers as points for a Michigan State team that had been great for decades but suddenly sucks with him on it ... that's classic fan-board stuff.

Unless they are personal friends of the Hausers, I'm not sure why any Scoopers would fervently defend a family that quit on our alma mater.

It cracks me up that some of the same folks who are going with the (false IMHO) narrative that our players quit against Georgetown are defending two guys who literally quit on Marquette. Or that some Scoopers think it's wrong to "hate" two guys who left Marquette in their rearview mirrors 2 years ago but think it's OK to "hate" the athletes who busted their arses for Marquette in this most difficult of seasons.

Personally, I'll always appreciate Sam. He worked hard for 3 years, he and Markus were the main reasons Marquette became relevant again for a couple seasons, and he gave us a few incredible moments. The shot against Creighton will be one of my favorite Marquette memories until the day I no longer can remember stuff anymore. I might be in the minority here, but I think Sam will have an NBA career, and I'll be rooting for him if he does.

Joey? The Marquette memories I'll have of him are of the collapse down the stretch, the turnovers, Ja posterizing him, and mostly the way he exited.

He had roughly as many good games for Marquette as Katin Reinhardt had ... and Katin actually got better as the season progressed rather than becoming a liability.

Katin -- whom many Marquette fans "hated" as he struggled to find his role early on -- also never tried to lead a mutiny.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on March 14, 2021, 08:22:00 AM
The weird part of Scoop.

Love: Joey Hauser, Sam Hauser and the Hauser parents

Hate: Markus Howard, Kaitlin Reinhardt, Koby McEwen

Wondering if this is more of an image issue then anything else.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 14, 2021, 08:22:42 AM

The day after the season ended, he may have thought it wasn't that big of an issue.  He clearly found out later it was.

Posting to defend the honor of the Hausers while simultaneously trashing the honor of someone else without evidence is something.

So the Hausers led a mutiny when the team was 23-4. It  ruined a glorious season. Dissension was so bad that if the Hausers stayed at MU multiple other players were going to leave. But the day after the season, after the mutiny and after the collapse, Wojo thought it wasn’t that big of an issue. Sounds logical.

BTW, I’m not suggesting Wojo was lying. I think Wojo probably thought the whole issue was a minor one that had been addressed and wouldn’t have any consequences - which flies in the face of the Scoop narrative.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on March 14, 2021, 08:25:39 AM
So the Hausers led a mutiny when the team was 23-4. It  ruined a glorious season. Dissension was so bad that if the Hausers stayed at MU multiple other players were going to leave. But the day after the season, after the mutiny and after the collapse, Wojo thought it wasn’t that big of an issue. Sounds logical.

You know Wojo thought it wasn’t a big issue?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 14, 2021, 08:48:02 AM
You know Wojo thought it wasn’t a big issue?

Well, I know that he didn’t think that in spite of a “mutiny” which ruined the season and was going to cause a bunch of guys to transfer if the Hausers stayed - he was surprised Sam and Joey left. If the mutiny was true, he shouldn’t have been surprised- he should have demanded it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 14, 2021, 09:00:06 AM
So the Hausers led a mutiny when the team was 23-4. It  ruined a glorious season. Dissension was so bad that if the Hausers stayed at MU multiple other players were going to leave. But the day after the season, after the mutiny and after the collapse, Wojo thought it wasn’t that big of an issue. Sounds logical.

BTW, I’m not suggesting Wojo was lying. I think Wojo probably thought the whole issue was a minor one that had been addressed and wouldn’t have any consequences - which flies in the face of the Scoop narrative.


WRT your second paragraph, either a minor issue or one that he would be able to resolve in the off season.

Look, I think the whole thing is damning of Wojo.  Communication was a problem.  His perception of the locker room was a problem.  I am hardly absolving him of responsibility.  I just think claiming he lied, when people have no evidence that is the case, is dumb.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 14, 2021, 09:09:29 AM
I ended up at on a group email with a bunch of 70's alums.  I have met one of them out here several times and he always sends out game time reminders and TV location.
One of the alums in the group has been going to the end of the season team banquet forever.  He apparently talked to the Hauser parents and they somehow inferred that things were going to be better next season without Marcus.  He said he was confused because despite rumors heard no official announcement of Marcus going pro and thought nothing of it until the Hauser's announced their transfer. (Along those lines.)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 14, 2021, 09:10:25 AM
Lenny, we are closer on this than it appears.   I think he knew there was issue, letter or no.   I think he thought he could manage it, that it was just another inevitable conflict that could be worked out.    I think he mis-read the level of antipathy. There are rumors of a yelling match and him-or-us ultimatums in the days after the season.   I think that until they actually pulled the trigger, he thought that it could be managed.   Again, underestimated the level of resentment.   

And because Wojo is not as nimble a recruiter as Buzz, he wasn't able to fill the holes.   He tried with Jayce, but Morrow simply wasn't a 3.   A year later, he landed Garcia and Lewis.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 14, 2021, 09:11:44 AM
I ended up at on a group email with a bunch of 70's alums.  I have met one of them out here several times and he always sends out game time reminders and TV location.
One of the alums in the group has been going to the end of the season team banquet forever.  He apparently talked to the Hauser parents and they somehow inferred that things were going to be better next season without Marcus.  He said he was confused because despite rumors heard no official announcement of Marcus going pro and thought nothing of it until the Hauser's announced their transfer. (Along those lines.)

But I've been assured it wasn't about Markus.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 14, 2021, 09:35:18 AM
The weird part of Scoop.

Love: Joey Hauser, Sam Hauser and the Hauser parents

Hate: Markus Howard, Kaitlin Reinhardt, Koby McEwen

Wondering if this is more of an image issue then anything else.

When did Reinhardt change genders?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 14, 2021, 09:39:43 AM
Unless they are personal friends of the Hausers, I'm not sure why any Scoopers would fervently defend a family that quit on our alma mater.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
It's not about the Hausers. It's about portraying Wojo in the worst light possible. And you can't do that if you acknowledge that he isn't the only one who bears responsibility for Hausershima.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on March 14, 2021, 10:02:08 AM
Lenny, we are closer on this than it appears.   I think he knew there was issue, letter or no.   I think he thought he could manage it, that it was just another inevitable conflict that could be worked out.    I think he mis-read the level of antipathy. There are rumors of a yelling match and him-or-us ultimatums in the days after the season.   I think that until they actually pulled the trigger, he thought that it could be managed.   Again, underestimated the level of resentment.   

And because Wojo is not as nimble a recruiter as Buzz, he wasn't able to fill the holes.   He tried with Jayce, but Morrow simply wasn't a 3.   A year later, he landed Garcia and Lewis.

I really like Jayce
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Small Orange Soda on March 14, 2021, 12:39:26 PM
I think the reason some of us don't "hate" the Hausers is that we broadly agree with their complaint.  Markus was an immense talent, but his usage rate was too high.  A more balanced scoring attack would've been ideal.  We had a first team All American last year....and finished 8-10 in conference.  Seriously, how often does a team with a first team AA finish under .500 in conference? What a waste.

Depending on what the letter said, I have no issue with them writing it.  If it said "Hey Wojo you suck, double our shots or we quit" then sure, slag away.  If it said "hey, a more balanced scoring attack would be better" then who am I to criticize?  I agree with that. 

For seven years we've heard a litany of excuses as to why Wojo hasn't succeeded here.  People blame the Hausers for the collapse two years ago when we lost 6 of 7....but then the exact same thing happened last year.  Maybe the Hausers were whiny babies, but the responsibility ultimately lies with Wojo. 

 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 14, 2021, 02:40:19 PM
I think the reason some of us don't "hate" the Hausers is that we broadly agree with their complaint.  Markus was an immense talent, but his usage rate was too high.  A more balanced scoring attack would've been ideal.  We had a first team All American last year....and finished 8-10 in conference.  Seriously, how often does a team with a first team AA finish under .500 in conference? What a waste.

Depending on what the letter said, I have no issue with them writing it.  If it said "Hey Wojo you suck, double our shots or we quit" then sure, slag away.  If it said "hey, a more balanced scoring attack would be better" then who am I to criticize?  I agree with that. 

For seven years we've heard a litany of excuses as to why Wojo hasn't succeeded here.  People blame the Hausers for the collapse two years ago when we lost 6 of 7....but then the exact same thing happened last year.  Maybe the Hausers were whiny babies, but the responsibility ultimately lies with Wojo.

Usage is certainly a topic that can be argued in depth but the Hausers still had chances. And they failed. Often.

The last two weeks of that season, and it's subsequent collapse, responsibility was shared and the Hausers were half the problem.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Small Orange Soda on March 14, 2021, 06:05:49 PM
Usage is certainly a topic that can be argued in depth but the Hausers still had chances. And they failed. Often.

The last two weeks of that season, and it's subsequent collapse, responsibility was shared and the Hausers were half the problem.

And I've got no problem calling out anyone who played poorly during that stretch, Hausers included.  The second straight collapse showed that there were problems bigger than them since they'd already left.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on March 14, 2021, 08:01:58 PM
When did Reinhardt change genders?

Got a problem with that?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 15, 2021, 09:55:15 AM
And I've got no problem calling out anyone who played poorly during that stretch, Hausers included.  The second straight collapse showed that there were problems bigger than them since they'd already left.

The problem in that stretch is they played the tri-conference champions (played them all tough) and lost two one possession games in addition to that. Those are the breaks.

They weren't getting destroyed every night. They weren't totally outclassed. Still comfortably an NCAA team. They played tough competition and lost tight games. Also didn't help that the second option on the team wasn't exactly a consistent player.

Two collapses in a row makes it easy for people to only blame one guy since the personnel changed. That's short-sighted. It also then allows for some to claim Wojo "learned" since they finished this season without a collapse. But is that the case?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Small Orange Soda on March 15, 2021, 03:50:28 PM
The problem in that stretch is they played the tri-conference champions (played them all tough) and lost two one possession games in addition to that. Those are the breaks.

They weren't getting destroyed every night. They weren't totally outclassed. Still comfortably an NCAA team. They played tough competition and lost tight games. Also didn't help that the second option on the team wasn't exactly a consistent player.

Two collapses in a row makes it easy for people to only blame one guy since the personnel changed. That's short-sighted. It also then allows for some to claim Wojo "learned" since they finished this season without a collapse. But is that the case?

I don't think after a seven year body of work that any judgement of Wojo is short-sighted.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 15, 2021, 08:49:56 PM
I don't think after a seven year body of work that any judgement of Wojo is short-sighted.

Ah. Our conversation was based on the two years in a row collapsing issue. But now you've stopped that and changed the subject. No worries.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Small Orange Soda on March 16, 2021, 06:40:21 AM
Ah. Our conversation was based on the two years in a row collapsing issue. But now you've stopped that and changed the subject. No worries.

We were debating the back to back collapses.  I used the other five years to back up my point.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: #UnleashKolek on March 16, 2021, 08:22:57 AM
Ah. Our conversation was based on the two years in a row collapsing issue. But now you've stopped that and changed the subject. No worries.

Marquette had a 1-6 streak this year. Congrats that the end of the season consisted of DePaul, butler, and xavier?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 18, 2021, 11:06:55 PM
Joey Hauser, still a massive defensive liability.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 18, 2021, 11:15:22 PM
Not watching,  but Hauser is trending on the Twitter, and not in a good way.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 19, 2021, 03:20:34 AM
His season has been heading in this direction for several weeks.   Disappointed, because I like Sparty.   Not surprised.

I had hoped a couple of years under Izzo would help his maturity, attitude, and defense.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on March 19, 2021, 07:10:15 AM
Joey 9 and 3 in overtime loss to UCLA. Spartans led by 11 at half but had a defensive collapse in the second half .
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 19, 2021, 07:16:24 AM
The defensive collapse was UCLA going straight at Joey when he was on the floor.  Not the first team to do that.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on March 19, 2021, 07:53:10 AM
The defensive collapse was UCLA going straight at Joey when he was on the floor.  Not the first team to do that.

I am clearly not a fan of Joey.  I didn't get to watch the game... but how did he end up deciding the game when he played 16 minutes?

Was it really that bad every time he was in, or were you just joking?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 19, 2021, 08:09:03 AM
I am clearly not a fan of Joey.  I didn't get to watch the game... but how did he end up deciding the game when he played 16 minutes?

Was it really that bad every time he was in, or were you just joking?

UCLA definitely went at him. I'm talking NBA-style clearouts so Jacquez could go at him one-on-one.
But no, Joey didn't decide the game. He didn't help, but I'd say there were bigger culprits, the biggest being Izzo's coaching.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 19, 2021, 08:52:31 AM
UCLA definitely went at him. I'm talking NBA-style clearouts so Jacquez could go at him one-on-one.
But no, Joey didn't decide the game. He didn't help, but I'd say there were bigger culprits, the biggest being Izzo's coaching.

Wojo to MSU.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 19, 2021, 03:19:23 PM
Joey had a nice 4-minute stretch in the first half - hit a 3, nice putback, short jumper, couple of good passes.

He was a disaster in the second half. Hesitant to shoot, bricked a wide-open 3, and as everybody who watched it knows he defended like a rusty gate. If Joey isn't hitting shots, you simply can't play him ... so Izzo finally didn't.

Quick tourney appearance for Hauser the Younger. But at least he got away from Milwaukee to the loving environment in East Lansing.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jables1604 on March 20, 2021, 08:12:32 PM
Oh boy.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 20, 2021, 08:14:00 PM
Well the good news for the Hausers this tournament is that neither one had someone’s nut-sack in their face.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 20, 2021, 08:14:18 PM
Hahahahahhaha
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on March 20, 2021, 08:14:30 PM
Karma
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on March 20, 2021, 08:14:53 PM
Fair to say at this point the Hauser boys' decision to transfer is working out for absolutely no one.

Bump.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jockey on March 20, 2021, 08:16:03 PM
I guess Joey’s nice 4 minute stretch was better than Sam’s entire game.

No wonder we collapsed a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 20, 2021, 08:16:45 PM
Hausers 0-5 in NCAA tournament?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 20, 2021, 08:19:47 PM
3 schools, 2 great coaches, 0 tournament wins
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 20, 2021, 08:24:39 PM
4-1 in not getting teabagged in tournament games.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Big East on March 20, 2021, 08:25:54 PM
Sam ends his career with a loss to Ohio.

All the Best to him in his next basketball  journey.

I am sure our new coach would welcome him back to MU if he wants a graduate degree
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 20, 2021, 08:27:48 PM
4-1 in not getting teabagged in tournament games.

That's not bad, but poor Joey is only .500.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 20, 2021, 08:30:31 PM
That's not bad, but poor Joey is only .500.

I don’t know. That’s one where if you aren’t 1.000 you’ve lost.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2021, 10:20:32 PM
I guess Joey’s nice 4 minute stretch was better than Sam’s entire game.

No wonder we collapsed a couple years ago.

It was a complete team collapse, that's for sure. Markus, Sam and Joey all struggled mightily.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2021, 09:40:55 AM
Well the good news for the Hausers this tournament is that neither one had someone’s nut-sack in their face.




Y da name change? Fluffy BM wuz somethin' lotz of us kould relate two, aina?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on March 24, 2021, 06:34:01 PM
Joey got an award from the Spartan Media
https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/lists/michigan-state-basketball-2020-21-end-of-season-awards/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 5DollarPitcher on March 24, 2021, 07:29:01 PM
Just found this thread. Wow. We’ve got some seriously obsessed weirdos on Scoop... they’ve been gone 2 years - do we really need an ongoing 18 page thread litigating and relitigating? So strange!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 24, 2021, 07:42:14 PM
We’ve got some seriously obsessed weirdos on Scoop... they’ve been gone 2 years -

You'll fit in well here then:
Deonte Burton leaves and becomes a top player on a Top 15 team

Duane Wilson leaves and becomes a top player on a Top 15 team

Joey is the best player on a Top 15 team

Sam is a top player on a ranked team

I’m the idiot... ha. The guy cannot utilize talent. Imagine All American Markus Howard being coached by someone else.

Stalking Wilson and Burton for all those years.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on March 24, 2021, 08:04:18 PM
Just found this thread. Wow. We’ve got some seriously obsessed weirdos on Scoop... they’ve been gone 2 years - do we really need an ongoing 18 page thread litigating and relitigating? So strange!
This thread is serious archival research. Will be donated to Raynor at some point in the future.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 24, 2021, 08:29:26 PM
Just found this thread. Wow. We’ve got some seriously obsessed weirdos on Scoop... they’ve been gone 2 years - do we really need an ongoing 18 page thread litigating and relitigating? So strange!

Remember when you called MSU a top 15 team?? HAHAHAHa
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 5DollarPitcher on March 24, 2021, 08:48:27 PM
Remember when you called MSU a top 15 team?? HAHAHAHa
They were a top 15 team at the time of that post...? Rankings change, right?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 24, 2021, 08:59:28 PM
They were a top 15 team at the time of that post...? Rankings change, right?

But they weren't. Hence why I called you out then. And proceeded to tell you they would plummet.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: TSmith34 on March 25, 2021, 09:53:22 AM
This thread is serious archival research. Will be donated to Raynor at some point in the future.
I hear the Scoop mods are going to auction off this thread as an NFT and use the windfall to eliminate our subscription fees.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 01, 2021, 10:07:48 PM
Joey got a D+ report card from one of the media sites focused on The Spartans


https://www.theonlycolors.com/2021/3/30/22358647/michigan-state-spartans-mens-basketball-2020-2021-report-card-joey-hauser
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: naginiF on April 01, 2021, 10:12:14 PM
Joey got a D+ report card from one of the media sites focused on The Spartans


https://www.theonlycolors.com/2021/3/30/22358647/michigan-state-spartans-mens-basketball-2020-2021-report-card-joey-hauser
.....the jilted lover's diary gets another entry
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on April 01, 2021, 11:52:03 PM
Joey got a D+ report card from one of the media sites focused on The Spartans


https://www.theonlycolors.com/2021/3/30/22358647/michigan-state-spartans-mens-basketball-2020-2021-report-card-joey-hauser
Some of the comments were brutal.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 02, 2021, 06:26:08 AM
Some of the comments were brutal.

Real criticism, though.  They’re right, it’s up to Joey what he wants to be.  He’s uber-talented
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 02, 2021, 02:34:29 PM
Real criticism, though.  They’re right, it’s up to Joey what he wants to be.  He’s uber-talented

He has offensive talent. A player like him has to be "on" offensively every game, because he gives back so much on the other end of the court. We saw it here, but Wojo had no choice but to keep putting him out there. At MSU, Izzo won't accept it unless Joey is truly an offensive difference-maker.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 04, 2021, 10:11:42 PM
Sam discusses his plans to go pro
https://www.wsaw.com/2021/03/26/sam-hauser-discusses-decision-to-turn-pro-with-newschannel-7/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on April 04, 2021, 10:20:42 PM
Sam discusses his plans to go pro
https://www.wsaw.com/2021/03/26/sam-hauser-discusses-decision-to-turn-pro-with-newschannel-7/

Congrats Herm on your rising today.

In other news, I will be discussing my plans to date Charlize Theron.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: keefe on April 04, 2021, 10:35:59 PM
I wonder if Sam bought a subscription to Babbel.com to start boning up on Hebrew or Russian?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 04, 2021, 11:07:18 PM
Sam's twit said:

I can’t thank Coach Bennett and the rest of his staff for believing in me.

That's pretty hilarious. Sorry, coach ... I can't thank you!

I bet he plays some in the NBA, but if he plays most or all of his career overseas he still can make good coin.


Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 05, 2021, 11:33:33 AM
Sam's twit said:

I can’t thank Coach Bennett and the rest of his staff for believing in me.

That's pretty hilarious. Sorry, coach ... I can't thank you!

You'd think after five years of college he would have had to pass a communications class at some point.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 05, 2021, 12:10:45 PM
You'd think after five years of college he would have had to pass a communications class at some point.

It was an accidentally omitted word. We've all done that, had typos, etc, over the years. Spend a half-hour reading Scoop and you'll see it a zillion times (present company included).

But that doesn't mean Sam's twit isn't poke-fun-able.

He can't thank his coach. Love it!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 05, 2021, 12:16:52 PM
It was an accidentally omitted word. We've all done that, had typos, etc, over the years. Spend a half-hour reading Scoop and you'll see it a zillion times (present company included).

But that doesn't mean Sam's twit isn't poke-fun-able.

He can't thank his coach. Love it!

Yeah, I get it.  I'm just piling on.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: keefe on April 10, 2021, 07:02:15 PM
Sam's twit said:

I bet he plays some in the NBA

Sumbitch idn't playin' in The Show. Hope his passport is buffed up and ready for travel.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 10, 2021, 07:07:43 PM
Sam's twit said:

I can’t thank Coach Bennett and the rest of his staff for believing in me.

That's pretty hilarious. Sorry, coach ... I can't thank you!

I bet he plays some in the NBA, but if he plays most or all of his career overseas he still can make good coin.



Shekels, kin, shekels, aina?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: keefe on April 10, 2021, 08:08:07 PM


Shekels, kin, shekels, aina?

Or Rubles. The Tall White Stiff idn't gettin' Benjamins donchaknow?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 10, 2021, 10:22:33 PM
Or Rubles. The Tall White Stiff idn't gettin' Benjamins donchaknow?

Let's make a friendly wager ... I bet Sam gets more than a single 10-day contract in the NBA.

He either makes a roster, gets a two-way contract or gets multiple 10-day contract. In other words, he'll get some Benjamins from The Show.

Four-pack of our favorite craft brew.

Yeah ... I know ... big spender. It's about bragging rights anyway, nu?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: keefe on April 11, 2021, 01:01:59 AM
Let's make a friendly wager ... I bet Sam gets more than a single 10-day contract in the NBA.

He either makes a roster, gets a two-way contract or gets multiple 10-day contract. In other words, he'll get some Benjamins from The Show.

Four-pack of our favorite craft brew.

Yeah ... I know ... big spender. It's about bragging rights anyway, nu?

It's a bet though we need to put a time frame on this.

You may be right and he inks a deal. I just don't think he has Novak's touch and his defense makes Novak look like Paul George.

My thoughts on beers would start with either Baird Brewing's Angry Boy Brown Ale or Northern Monk's Obelisk. If we are limiting this to domestic then I would recommend Allagash Brewing's Coolship Resurgam. Sublime.

One never knows how kids develop. If you would have said Juan Anderson would be an impact NBA player I would have taken that bet every time.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2021, 09:49:43 AM
It's a bet though we need to put a time frame on this.

You may be right and he inks a deal. I just don't think he has Novak's touch and his defense makes Novak look like Paul George.

My thoughts on beers would start with either Baird Brewing's Angry Boy Brown Ale or Northern Monk's Obelisk. If we are limiting this to domestic then I would recommend Allagash Brewing's Coolship Resurgam. Sublime.

One never knows how kids develop. If you would have said Juan Anderson would be an impact NBA player I would have taken that bet every time.

Sure ... two years. Either Hauser gets more than one cup of coffee by the end of the 2022-23 season, or he doesn't.

And we don't have to specify beer now. We'll wait till the bet is won -- and who knows what delicious names will be available then?

Sam is not a great defender for sure, not even good, but I think you are wrong about his D compared to Novak. In each of their college primes, I'd take Sam over Novak 10 times out of 10. Neither can/could guard in space, especially somebody smaller and quicker (which, in today's "position-less" defense, exposes Sam a lot more than Novak ever faced), but Sam is a heady team and help defender. Just IMHO, of course.

And while many of us consider Novak one of the best shooters we've ever seen -- because he was -- Sam wasn't far behind statistically and actually had a better overall percentage.

Anyway, it's silly to argue about something that will be proven soon enough!

Looking forward to getting together with you for another beverage on one of my extended trips to see my daughter and son-in-law (and now my adorable grandson), who still live in your town.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: keefe on April 11, 2021, 10:51:15 AM
Sure ... two years. Either Hauser gets more than one cup of coffee by the end of the 2022-23 season, or he doesn't.

And we don't have to specify beer now. We'll wait till the bet is won -- and who knows what delicious names will be available then?

Sam is not a great defender for sure, not even good, but I think you are wrong about his D compared to Novak. In each of their college primes, I'd take Sam over Novak 10 times out of 10. Neither can/could guard in space, especially somebody smaller and quicker (which, in today's "position-less" defense, exposes Sam a lot more than Novak ever faced), but Sam is a heady team and help defender. Just IMHO, of course.

And while many of us consider Novak one of the best shooters we've ever seen -- because he was -- Sam wasn't far behind statistically and actually had a better overall percentage.

Anyway, it's silly to argue about something that will be proven soon enough!

Looking forward to getting together with you for another beverage on one of my extended trips to see my daughter and son-in-law (and now my adorable grandson), who still live in your town.

Mike

We can figure out the brews later. Or we can let the loser decide. The challenge itself made me think through the wide world of great beers.

Congrats on the progeny! That is really fantastic news! As I recall they were living in West Seattle. There are some excellent breweries around there including Georgetown Brewing.

Aside from the bet let me introduce you to one of our incredible brew pubs. We had enough of downtown Seattle and live on the water in Gig Harbor. When taking a tour of our country club here we walked into the club house bar and they had Fox News on the box. SOLD!

Gig Harbor is an oasis of sanity in a sea of insanity. And we have a bet.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2021, 03:54:41 PM
Mike

We can figure out the brews later. Or we can let the loser decide. The challenge itself made me think through the wide world of great beers.

Congrats on the progeny! That is really fantastic news! As I recall they were living in West Seattle. There are some excellent breweries around there including Georgetown Brewing.

Aside from the bet let me introduce you to one of our incredible brew pubs. We had enough of downtown Seattle and live on the water in Gig Harbor. When taking a tour of our country club here we walked into the club house bar and they had Fox News on the box. SOLD!

Gig Harbor is an oasis of sanity in a sea of insanity. And we have a bet.

They live in Woodinville now, Crash. They like that area, with Redmond and Bellevue nearby. My SIL just left Microsoft to be a hotshot at Unity Softwear. Their boy Owen is my third grandson; my son in Chicago has 1 1/2 year old twin boys. I’m a proud (and old) grandpa.

Bet’s on. So now I hafta say, “Go Sam!”
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: keefe on April 11, 2021, 04:39:58 PM
They live in Woodinville now, Crash. They like that area, with Redmond and Bellevue nearby. My SIL just left Microsoft to be a hotshot at Unity Softwear. Their boy Owen is my third grandson; my son in Chicago has 1 1/2 year old twin boys. I’m a proud (and old) grandpa.

Bet’s on. So now I hafta say, “Go Sam!”

We belong to the wine clubs at Chateau Ste Michelle and Januik which both have tasting rooms in Woodinville. Strongly recommend both among the dozens in the valley.

Red Hook's big barn brewery where we met last is now closed. They relocated retail operations to downtown near Pike Place Market and Capitol Hill. Brewing is now done at the Widmer brewery in Portland.

I mentioned Georgetown Brewing. I'm not a big IPA drinker but their Bodizapha is sublime.



Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: #UnleashKolek on April 11, 2021, 05:25:22 PM
Let's make a friendly wager ... I bet Sam gets more than a single 10-day contract in the NBA.

He either makes a roster, gets a two-way contract or gets multiple 10-day contract. In other words, he'll get some Benjamins from The Show.

Four-pack of our favorite craft brew.

Yeah ... I know ... big spender. It's about bragging rights anyway, nu?

Chicos still owes me 200 from our last bet. I don't do scoop bets anymore
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2021, 09:12:32 PM
Chicos still owes me 200 from our last bet. I don't do scoop bets anymore

Neither Crash nor I are hoopaloop, thank goodness. The winner of our bet will get his winnings.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: keefe on April 12, 2021, 09:36:31 AM
Neither Crash nor I are hoopaloop, thank goodness. The winner of our bet will get his winnings.

I look forward to collecting!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 12, 2021, 10:12:15 AM
I look forward to collecting!

The beautiful thing is that I can collect early next season after Sam is on his NBA team's roster and has played in a few games!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: keefe on April 12, 2021, 03:05:04 PM
The beautiful thing is that I can collect early next season after Sam is on his NBA team's roster and has played in a few games!

I didn't realize the NBA had a franchise in Europe!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: #UnleashKolek on April 12, 2021, 10:49:13 PM
I didn't realize the NBA had a franchise in Europe!

I mean Howard made a team (and doing very poorly) hauser is bound to make one
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 13, 2021, 12:13:02 AM
I mean Howard made a team (and doing very poorly) hauser is bound to make one

Despite all the criticism, Howard has probably 2-3x the skills of Sam.
https://youtu.be/gdoGcFK63jw?t=10
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 13, 2021, 09:06:47 AM
Despite all the criticism, Howard has probably 2-3x the skills of Sam.
https://youtu.be/gdoGcFK63jw?t=10

Yeah, and lots of players not even in the NBA had/have more skill than Crawford, Buycks and Juan, too. Sometimes it's not about skill.

Sam shoots 3s at 40%+, he's 6-8 and he's smart.

If Markus were 6-8, with his skillset, he'd have been a top-5 pick. But unfortunately for him, he's much closer to 5-8.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 13, 2021, 06:52:47 PM
Yeah, and lots of players not even in the NBA had/have more skill than Crawford, Buycks and Juan, too. Sometimes it's not about skill.

Sam shoots 3s at 40%+, he's 6-8 and he's smart.

If Markus were 6-8, with his skillset, he'd have been a top-5 pick. But unfortunately for him, he's much closer to 5-8.
If Grandma had balls She would be Grandpa ( You can provide the Yiddish translation)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 14, 2021, 09:36:08 AM
Message Moved to proper thread
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on April 14, 2021, 12:05:43 PM
Aaron continuing to do well and lobbying for the full time job.


https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jeopardy-aaron-rodgers-hilarious-reaction-green-bay-packers-clue

Hauser thread? lol
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on April 14, 2021, 12:09:32 PM
Kithier transferring out of MSU.    More minutes for Joey.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on April 14, 2021, 12:21:18 PM
Hauser thread? lol

Maybe Aaron lobbied the Hausers to write a letter for him?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 14, 2021, 01:53:06 PM
Aaron continuing to do well and lobbying for the full time job.


https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jeopardy-aaron-rodgers-hilarious-reaction-green-bay-packers-clue

If Aaron had breasts She would be Grandma ( You can provide the Cheesehead translation)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 14, 2021, 05:04:12 PM
If Aaron had breasts She would be Grandma ( You can provide the Cheesehead translation)

If Aaron had breasts she would be Erin.

FIFY
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 14, 2021, 05:16:39 PM
If Aaron had breasts she would be Erin.

FIFY

Easy bringing up Erin, aina.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 14, 2021, 05:22:53 PM
If Aaron had breasts She would be Grandma ( You can provide the Cheesehead translation)

Men have breasts, too.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: keefe on April 14, 2021, 08:23:58 PM
Men have breasts, too.

If Aaron had breasts sagging titties She would be Grandma
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on April 14, 2021, 10:23:18 PM
Men have breasts, too.

Crud.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on April 17, 2021, 09:21:36 PM
Sam and Joey's Mom is the new Boss Lady of WIAA

https://journaltimes.com/wiaa-hauser-to-be-1st-female-executive-director/article_96d3738d-e99c-543e-b379-448d52cb33af.html
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 18, 2021, 06:22:03 PM
Easy bringing up Erin, aina.



Oy, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on May 03, 2021, 01:39:47 PM
A second Hauser thread bumped so that the arguments can carry on here and not the recruiting thread.     Did you see on twitter that Joey supports Aaron Rodgers decision?      LOL.     When it comes these guys, I have let it go and moved on.    Peace, hugs, and good will to all.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on May 03, 2021, 01:45:44 PM
A second Hauser thread bumped so that the arguments can carry on here and not the recruiting thread.     Did you see on twitter that Joey supports Aaron Rodgers decision?      LOL.     When it comes these guys, I have let it go and moved on.    Peace, hugs, and good will to all.
Waiting to see if Sam gets an invite to NBA Combine
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 03, 2021, 04:00:41 PM
Hope the super softs have a great career in the NBA. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on May 03, 2021, 09:42:09 PM
How come no recruiting news here!?!

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Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: tower912 on May 05, 2021, 09:27:59 AM
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/05/offseason-evaluation-high-expectations-proved-hard-to-fulfill-for-michigan-states-joey-hauser.html
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on May 05, 2021, 03:40:06 PM
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/05/offseason-evaluation-high-expectations-proved-hard-to-fulfill-for-michigan-states-joey-hauser.html

That sure was a soft way to say: "Joey Hauser was one of the biggest disappointments in all of college basketball."
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on May 05, 2021, 03:41:34 PM
That sure was a soft Joey Hauser way to say: "Joey Hauser was one of the biggest disappointments in all of college basketball."

Fify
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 05, 2021, 04:46:24 PM
That sure was a soft way to say: "Joey Hauser was one of the biggest disappointments in all of college basketball."

They don’t get much softer than Joey Hauser
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on May 05, 2021, 05:12:10 PM
Few folks, not even the person who wrote that article, seem willing to admit that Joey regressed from his freshman season under Wojo to his third-year sophomore season under Izzo.

Even defending him by saying that he didn’t have a good PG at MSU means admitting that playing with Markus actually helped Joey’s production ... and we can’t have that, either.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on May 05, 2021, 05:47:51 PM
"Hauser spoke in his year off about defense being a primary focus. But it was clear last year that there’s still ground to cover in that department."

That's certainly one way of saying he's slow af.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on May 27, 2021, 01:44:51 PM
This is a very well written and detailed Scouting Report on Sam. Goes into a lot
of analysis , video and stats. 

https://zonahoops.com/2021/03/31/sam-hauser-nba-scouting-report/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on May 27, 2021, 02:22:35 PM
"Hauser spoke in his year off about defense being a primary focus. But it was clear last year that there’s still ground to cover in that department."

That's certainly one way of saying he's slow af.

Lol.  Statues struggle with foot speed. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on May 27, 2021, 02:28:00 PM
Thanks for posting that link, 9-9-9.

Very interesting, thorough scouting report, and I happen to agree with the conclusion after the author presents a list of guys who had similar output and skillsets in college:

Well, well, well, a whole bunch of NBA players. Just because Hauser’s stock rates and DBPM aren’t at the literal bottom of the ocean doesn’t mean that he’ll be a passable NBA defender, but nonetheless, they are encouraging indicators. This query also shows just how ridiculous of a gunner Hauser has the potential to be. This is probably as good a group of shooters as Barttorvik could allow one to create, and Hauser leads all qualifiers in 3-point percentage.

I think that Sam Hauser can be a real NBA rotation player. I’m not going to sit here and say that he absolutely needs to be a first-round pick, but he could very well return round one value in this class. Players with his intersection of size, decision-making, and out-of-this-world shooting ability don’t grow on trees.

Still, selecting Hauser doesn’t make much sense for certain teams. How much value does a 23-year old provide to a squad still years away from contention? Not only that, but contenders must consider his defensive fit. Hauser in Denver, for instance, could produce some ridiculous offensive line-ups, but how would the defense look in a hedge-heavy scheme with MPJ on the opposite wing?

For teams with enough rim-protection and versatile defenders on the wing, however, this is an incredible value play.


After watching the likes of Joe Harris and Duncan Robinson, I am convinced that the right NBA team can find a place for a smart 6-8 guy who can shoot. Can't wait to enjoy the beer I'm gonna win from Crash in our bet!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on May 27, 2021, 02:43:20 PM
I think that is a fair profile for Sam.  I can see him having a decent career in the NBA just given his skill set.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on May 27, 2021, 02:57:53 PM
This is a very well written and detailed Scouting Report on Sam. Goes into a lot
of analysis , video and stats. 

https://zonahoops.com/2021/03/31/sam-hauser-nba-scouting-report/

"Hauser in Denver, for instance ..."

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Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BM1090 on May 27, 2021, 05:26:08 PM
Thanks for posting that link, 9-9-9.

Very interesting, thorough scouting report, and I happen to agree with the conclusion after the author presents a list of guys who had similar output and skillsets in college:

Well, well, well, a whole bunch of NBA players. Just because Hauser’s stock rates and DBPM aren’t at the literal bottom of the ocean doesn’t mean that he’ll be a passable NBA defender, but nonetheless, they are encouraging indicators. This query also shows just how ridiculous of a gunner Hauser has the potential to be. This is probably as good a group of shooters as Barttorvik could allow one to create, and Hauser leads all qualifiers in 3-point percentage.

I think that Sam Hauser can be a real NBA rotation player. I’m not going to sit here and say that he absolutely needs to be a first-round pick, but he could very well return round one value in this class. Players with his intersection of size, decision-making, and out-of-this-world shooting ability don’t grow on trees.

Still, selecting Hauser doesn’t make much sense for certain teams. How much value does a 23-year old provide to a squad still years away from contention? Not only that, but contenders must consider his defensive fit. Hauser in Denver, for instance, could produce some ridiculous offensive line-ups, but how would the defense look in a hedge-heavy scheme with MPJ on the opposite wing?

For teams with enough rim-protection and versatile defenders on the wing, however, this is an incredible value play.


After watching the likes of Joe Harris and Duncan Robinson, I am convinced that the right NBA team can find a place for a smart 6-8 guy who can shoot. Can't wait to enjoy the beer I'm gonna win from Crash in our bet!

I agree that Sam will get a chance in the NBA, but he doesn't have the footspeed or lateral quickness of either of those guys. Both of those guys are well below NBA average in both of those categories too. Time will tell. Maybe he can improve those areas. But as of now I can't picture him rotating quick enough vs. NBA offenses with more spacing.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on May 27, 2021, 09:46:56 PM
I agree that Sam will get a chance in the NBA, but he doesn't have the footspeed or lateral quickness of either of those guys. Both of those guys are well below NBA average in both of those categories too. Time will tell. Maybe he can improve those areas. But as of now I can't picture him rotating quick enough vs. NBA offenses with more spacing.

The beautiful thing is that we’ll get to see what actually happens.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on June 17, 2021, 06:56:53 AM
Scouting Report on Sam
https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/sam-hauser-scouting-report/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on June 17, 2021, 08:22:32 AM
Scouting Report on Sam
https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/sam-hauser-scouting-report/

Accurate report. If he shoots lights-out at the combine and in individual workouts, I definitely could see a team taking a 2nd-round flyer on him. I mean, a LOT worse players than Sam Hauser have been taken in the second rounds of recent drafts.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on June 25, 2021, 03:02:22 PM
Sam doing well on the combine
https://mobile.twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1407896840796844032
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on June 25, 2021, 03:55:51 PM
Sam doing well on the combine
https://mobile.twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1407896840796844032

Not surprised. He can really shoot, and he's always been a decent help defender.

I've long thought he'd have an NBA career, and I'm now starting to think a team will take a second-round flyer on him. Every team is desperate for shooting.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on June 25, 2021, 04:42:34 PM
Watching Hauser play as we speak. Hit a nice mid range jumper. Still not good on defense. That being said, if he doesnt get drafted, I think he will get a two way contract.

On a side note, the bigs in these games are super athletic.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on June 25, 2021, 04:46:47 PM
Not surprised. He can really shoot, and he's always been a decent help defender.

I've long thought he'd have an NBA career, and I'm now starting to think a team will take a second-round flyer on him. Every team is desperate for shooting.
He had been bouncing on and off the low end of the second round on the mocks all year.  I agree this  combine performance may be enough to get him drafted.  If enough teams like him, they won't wait to sign him as a free agent, and they will draft him to be sure.



 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on June 25, 2021, 07:15:19 PM
Not surprised. He can really shoot, and he's always been a decent help defender.

I've long thought he'd have an NBA career, and I'm now starting to think a team will take a second-round flyer on him. Every team is desperate for shooting.

Listen, Sam isn’t the most athletic dude but he’s a historically good NCAA shooter from deep and he has good size.  He has the profile of a lot of the Euro small forward imports.  It’s not like guys like Joe Ingles or Bogdan Bogdanovic are super athletic or defensively superlative.  But they are very good shooters who play great team basketball.  Sam fits a similar mold.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on June 25, 2021, 10:11:21 PM
Listen, Sam isn’t the most athletic dude but he’s a historically good NCAA shooter from deep and he has good size.  He has the profile of a lot of the Euro small forward imports.  It’s not like guys like Joe Ingles or Bogdan Bogdanovic are super athletic or defensively superlative.  But they are very good shooters who play great team basketball.  Sam fits a similar mold.

Exactly.

Elite shooters who also play smart basketball and who aren’t too short do not grow on trees. That his chance at an NBA career was so casually dismissed by some of our fellow Scoopers … I don’t get it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on June 26, 2021, 02:05:01 AM
Listen, Sam isn’t the most athletic dude but he’s a historically good NCAA shooter from deep and he has good size.  He has the profile of a lot of the Euro small forward imports.  It’s not like guys like Joe Ingles or Bogdan Bogdanovic are super athletic or defensively superlative.  But they are very good shooters who play great team basketball.  Sam fits a similar mold.

I think the players you mentioned, along with Heurter as another example, are better shooting off the dribble than Sam.  They may also be quicker laterally, especially defensively.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 26, 2021, 08:22:30 AM
Listen, Sam isn’t the most athletic dude but he’s a historically good NCAA shooter from deep and he has good size.  He has the profile of a lot of the Euro small forward imports.  It’s not like guys like Joe Ingles or Bogdan Bogdanovic are super athletic or defensively superlative.  But they are very good shooters who play great team basketball.  Sam fits a similar mold.

The question isn't whether Sam can shoot, it's whether Sam can get his shot.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on June 26, 2021, 08:31:37 AM
The question isn't whether Sam can shoot, it's whether Sam can get his shot.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on June 26, 2021, 08:35:26 AM
I think the players you mentioned, along with Heurter as another example, are better shooting off the dribble than Sam.  They may also be quicker laterally, especially defensively.

I understand what you're saying, Muggs, but Steve Novak made $21M during a decade-long NBA career as a catch-and-shoot floor-spacer. And he did so in an NBA that hadn't gone completely bonkers shooting 3s, as is now the case.

Novak is one of the best shooters any of us have ever seen, and as good a shooter as Hauser has been, he hasn't proven himself to be quite that level yet. But Sam does every other thing on the court better than Novak did.

A knockdown 3-point shooter, especially one with height, doesn't need to shoot off the dribble to make a lot of money.

If Hauser makes it, there will be games his coach will not be able to use him much; the matchups will just be too unfavorable. But there also will be games he can play 25+ minutes because the other team will have guys on the floor he can defend just fine. If he's hitting his 3s and opening the floor for his teammates, he'll play. Duncan Robinson didn't play 31 mpg for Miami last season because he's a wonderful defender who constantly created his shot off the dribble. He wasn't drafted, either.

If Sam showed up at all these camps, combines and tryouts and had trouble connecting consistently from NBA 3-point range, I'd say he had little chance at an NBA career. That he seemingly is doing the opposite -- hitting 3 after 3 after 3 -- confirms that he can do the one thing that every NBA team desperately wants and needs.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 26, 2021, 08:53:16 AM
I understand what you're saying, Muggs, but Steve Novak made $21M during a decade-long NBA career as a catch-and-shoot floor-spacer. And he did so in an NBA that hadn't gone completely bonkers shooting 3s, as is now the case.

Novak is one of the best shooters any of us have ever seen, and as good a shooter as Hauser has been, he hasn't proven himself to be quite that level yet. But Sam does every other thing on the court better than Novak did.

A knockdown 3-point shooter, especially one with height, doesn't need to shoot off the dribble to make a lot of money.

If Hauser makes it, there will be games his coach will not be able to use him much; the matchups will just be too unfavorable. But there also will be games he can play 25+ minutes because the other team will have guys on the floor he can defend just fine. If he's hitting his 3s and opening the floor for his teammates, he'll play. Duncan Robinson didn't play 31 mpg for Miami last season because he's a wonderful defender who constantly created his shot off the dribble. He wasn't drafted, either.

If Sam showed up at all these camps, combines and tryouts and had trouble connecting consistently from NBA 3-point range, I'd say he had little chance at an NBA career. That he seemingly is doing the opposite -- hitting 3 after 3 after 3 -- confirms that he can do the one thing that every NBA team desperately wants and needs.

If he becomes a sniper from 3, teams will find a place for him. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on June 26, 2021, 08:58:42 AM
I understand what you're saying, Muggs, but Steve Novak made $21M during a decade-long NBA career as a catch-and-shoot floor-spacer. And he did so in an NBA that hadn't gone completely bonkers shooting 3s, as is now the case.

Novak is one of the best shooters any of us have ever seen, and as good a shooter as Hauser has been, he hasn't proven himself to be quite that level yet. But Sam does every other thing on the court better than Novak did.

A knockdown 3-point shooter, especially one with height, doesn't need to shoot off the dribble to make a lot of money.

If Hauser makes it, there will be games his coach will not be able to use him much; the matchups will just be too unfavorable. But there also will be games he can play 25+ minutes because the other team will have guys on the floor he can defend just fine. If he's hitting his 3s and opening the floor for his teammates, he'll play. Duncan Robinson didn't play 31 mpg for Miami last season because he's a wonderful defender who constantly created his shot off the dribble. He wasn't drafted, either.

If Sam showed up at all these camps, combines and tryouts and had trouble connecting consistently from NBA 3-point range, I'd say he had little chance at an NBA career. That he seemingly is doing the opposite -- hitting 3 after 3 after 3 -- confirms that he can do the one thing that every NBA team desperately wants and needs.

That's fair but let me just say this about Novak:  He was as good a pure shooter as you'll ever see.  Of course he couldn't get shots off easily but as far as catch and shoot, in wide open space, he ticked the twine consistently.  There are many occasions during practice or before games where he would casually sink 25 straight triples with the majority of them nothing but nylon.  And let's not forget his little free throw run.  The guy could shoot and simply did not have games like Sam where he was just off and missed tons of clean looks.

 
I understand what you're saying, Muggs, but Steve Novak made $21M during a decade-long NBA career as a catch-and-shoot floor-spacer. And he did so in an NBA that hadn't gone completely bonkers shooting 3s, as is now the case.

Novak is one of the best shooters any of us have ever seen, and as good a shooter as Hauser has been, he hasn't proven himself to be quite that level yet. But Sam does every other thing on the court better than Novak did.

A knockdown 3-point shooter, especially one with height, doesn't need to shoot off the dribble to make a lot of money.

If Hauser makes it, there will be games his coach will not be able to use him much; the matchups will just be too unfavorable. But there also will be games he can play 25+ minutes because the other team will have guys on the floor he can defend just fine. If he's hitting his 3s and opening the floor for his teammates, he'll play. Duncan Robinson didn't play 31 mpg for Miami last season because he's a wonderful defender who constantly created his shot off the dribble. He wasn't drafted, either.

If Sam showed up at all these camps, combines and tryouts and had trouble connecting consistently from NBA 3-point range, I'd say he had little chance at an NBA career. That he seemingly is doing the opposite -- hitting 3 after 3 after 3 -- confirms that he can do the one thing that every NBA team desperately wants and needs.
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Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on June 26, 2021, 10:55:05 AM
That's fair but let me just say this about Novak:  He was as good a pure shooter as you'll ever see.  Of course he couldn't get shots off easily but as far as catch and shoot, in wide open space, he ticked the twine consistently.  There are many occasions during practice or before games where he would casually sink 25 straight triples with the majority of them nothing but nylon.  And let's not forget his little free throw run.  The guy could shoot and simply did not have games like Sam where he was just off and missed tons of clean looks.

Of course Novak had games "where he was just off and missed tons of clean looks." Your memory is clouded by your appreciation of him (an appreciation I share). He was 0-4 and scored 2 points in 25 minutes in a 2005 loss to Louisville. He was 1-6  in the 2005 NIT embarrass-a-thon to Western Michigan. He was 1-7 against E. Washington in a game we surprisingly had to sweat out. He was 2-9 in a 2005-06 loss to Madison.

That I had to go to the interwebs to look up his few off nights is a testament to how great a shooter he was. And I went out of the way to say that Sam has not proven to be a Novak-level shooter yet. But Sam can shoot, he's got a very high basketball IQ, and he's not mentally weak like his younger bro.

The beautiful thing is we'll actually get to see how good Hauser can be rather than just speculate about it! He might have a 10-year career like Novak, or he might never see a minute in the NBA. I'm thinking the truth will be somewhere in the middle.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jockey on June 26, 2021, 11:02:49 AM
In the highlights, I have seen him make a lot of open 3s.

I haven’t seen him create shots. I haven’t seen him run off screens to get open looks. I haven’t seen a quick release.

But he is a good stand still shooter and has, on occasion, shown a little post-up game. He’s a smart guy who is good on help defense, but I have a hard time finding NBA 3s that he can guard.

But when I see the guys at the back third of the Bucks, I see no reason he couldn’t be one of those guys.

My prediction is undrafted and time in the G League with a chance of a call up.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on June 26, 2021, 11:48:58 AM
That's fair but let me just say this about Novak:  He was as good a pure shooter as you'll ever see.  Of course he couldn't get shots off easily but as far as catch and shoot, in wide open space, he ticked the twine consistently.  There are many occasions during practice or before games where he would casually sink 25 straight triples with the majority of them nothing but nylon.  And let's not forget his little free throw run.  The guy could shoot and simply did not have games like Sam where he was just off and missed tons of clean looks.

Steve Novak college percentages:
46% from 3 on just over 6 attempts per game.
45% overall as he was lower at about 43% from 2

Sam Hauser college percentages:
44% from 3 on just under 6 attempts per game.

48% overall as he was around 50% from 2.

Novak is understandably a venerate MU legend.  Sam left under dubious circumstances.  That leads to some heavy tinted glasses in viewing them.  We don’t know what Sam’s NBA future holds, but trying to differentiate them at the conclusion of their college careers by acting like Novak was some clearly superior shooting is just untrue.  Sam is one of the 30 best 3P shooters in NCAA history.  Dude is a complete sniper.

Sam may not be drafted, but there is almost no chance he’s not a 2 way contract guy. 6’8 45% 3P shooters don’t grow on trees. Especially ones that understand passing, spacing, and spent 2 years learning in a rigorous defensive scheme
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on June 26, 2021, 01:35:27 PM
In the highlights, I have seen him make a lot of open 3s.

I haven’t seen him create shots. I haven’t seen him run off screens to get open looks. I haven’t seen a quick release.

But he is a good stand still shooter and has, on occasion, shown a little post-up game. He’s a smart guy who is good on help defense, but I have a hard time finding NBA 3s that he can guard.

But when I see the guys at the back third of the Bucks, I see no reason he couldn’t be one of those guys.

My prediction is undrafted and time in the G League with a chance of a call up.

I actually have seen him come off screens and shoot 3s. I -- and most of America -- also saw him get off a game-tying 3 pretty damn quickly against Creighton. And he has been -- and will continue to be at whatever level he plays next -- an incredible pick-and-pop option.

You think he'd have absolutely no chance defending Pat Connaughton or Duncan Robinson or Bogdan Bogdanovic? Put it this way: I think he could guard them every bit as well as they could guard him.

Your prediction is reasonable ... though I'm getting a feeling he'll be drafted in the second round.

Steve Novak college percentages:
46% from 3 on just over 6 attempts per game.
45% overall as he was lower at about 43% from 2

Sam Hauser college percentages:
44% from 3 on just under 6 attempts per game.

48% overall as he was around 50% from 2.

Novak is understandably a venerate MU legend.  Sam left under dubious circumstances.  That leads to some heavy tinted glasses in viewing them.  We don’t know what Sam’s NBA future holds, but trying to differentiate them at the conclusion of their college careers by acting like Novak was some clearly superior shooting is just untrue.  Sam is one of the 30 best 3P shooters in NCAA history.  Dude is a complete sniper.

Sam may not be drafted, but there is almost no chance he’s not a 2 way contract guy. 6’8 45% 3P shooters don’t grow on trees. Especially ones that understand passing, spacing, and spent 2 years learning in a rigorous defensive scheme

Great stats and great points.

  The guy could shoot and simply did not have games like Sam where he was just off and missed tons of clean looks.

Oh ... and I forgot one more ... 0-5 vs Kansas in '03. Of course, everybody sucked in that game, but it sure would have been nice if the guy who "simply did not have games ... where he was just off" had hit even one 3.

I don't want it to sound like I'm ragging on Novak, because he was a great Warrior; like all of us, though, he wasn't perfect. As Wags says, sometimes we misremember things a little when it comes to our favorite players.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on June 26, 2021, 02:02:03 PM
Steve Novak college percentages:
46% from 3 on just over 6 attempts per game.
45% overall as he was lower at about 43% from 2

Sam Hauser college percentages:
44% from 3 on just under 6 attempts per game.

48% overall as he was around 50% from 2.

Novak is understandably a venerate MU legend.  Sam left under dubious circumstances.  That leads to some heavy tinted glasses in viewing them.  We don’t know what Sam’s NBA future holds, but trying to differentiate them at the conclusion of their college careers by acting like Novak was some clearly superior shooting is just untrue.  Sam is one of the 30 best 3P shooters in NCAA history.  Dude is a complete sniper.

Sam may not be drafted, but there is almost no chance he’s not a 2 way contract guy. 6’8 45% 3P shooters don’t grow on trees. Especially ones that understand passing, spacing, and spent 2 years learning in a rigorous defensive scheme

Novak was a better pure shooter.  I don't think this is  debatable.   I think people are forgetting the Mizzou tournament game when he was a Frosh and the UCONN performance.  I was able to relax when Novak had an open look. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on June 26, 2021, 02:05:41 PM
The 5 best pure shooters in MU history?

Would Novak, Howard,  and Rowsey be top 5?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 26, 2021, 02:06:33 PM
Any discussion here starts with the Grafton Gun, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on June 26, 2021, 02:20:32 PM
Novak was a better pure shooter.  I don't think this is  debatable.   I think people are forgetting the Mizzou tournament game when he was a Frosh and the UCONN performance.  I was able to relax when Novak had an open look.

Nobody is forgetting anything.  You’re arguing against statistics with pure feel and memory. Sam shot basically 45% from 3 at MU. Acting like you could relax when Novak had an open look and not Sam cause he wasn’t as good of a “pure shooter” is just silly
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on June 26, 2021, 02:40:44 PM
Nobody is forgetting anything.  You’re arguing against statistics with pure feel and memory. Sam shot basically 45% from 3 at MU. Acting like you could relax when Novak had an open look and not Sam cause he wasn’t as good of a “pure shooter” is just silly

Excuse me JWags but I'm well aware of situations that cause me  stress vs being able to relax.  If my life depended on an MU player taking an open 23 footer, I would take Novak over Sam 100/100 times.  Regardless if I have some bias.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on June 26, 2021, 02:53:48 PM
The 5 best pure shooters in MU history?

Would Novak, Howard,  and Rowsey be top 5?

This is one of those "era" things. Outside shooting, especially deep outside shooting, simply wasn't valued as highly when Marquette was one of the best few programs in all of college basketball -- meaning when we had tons of talent every year. I mean, Tatum could effen shoot. So could Rosenberger. A guy like Butch was more of a slasher and mid-range guy, but that's what guys did back then, so who knows? He hit some deep J's against the U.S. Olympic team. Sewell, the guy Doc Dribble mentioned, was considered one of the best outside shooters of his time. Oliver Lee, who arrived a tad later, could shoot. Bo Ellis could have been a "trail 3" guy if it had been a thing back then.

Of the guys we know from the 3-point era ... Novak, Howard, Hauser, Rowsey, Diener, Logterman, Acker (50% as a senior).

Excuse me JWags but I'm well aware of situations that cause me  stress vs being able to relax.  If my life depended on an MU player taking an open 23 footer, I would take Novak over Sam 100/100 times.  Regardless if I have some bias.

Cool, Muggs. But your emotion is not "fact."
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on June 26, 2021, 03:44:11 PM
Any discussion here starts with the Grafton Gun, hey?
Jeff Sewell helped lead us to the NIT Championship , had interest from the NBA , ABA and NFL and in my view is one of the more overlooked great players in MU history

Could only imagine if the three point rule was in effect then.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 26, 2021, 03:55:36 PM
Nobody is forgetting anything.  You’re arguing against statistics with pure feel and memory. Sam shot basically 45% from 3 at MU. Acting like you could relax when Novak had an open look and not Sam cause he wasn’t as good of a “pure shooter” is just silly

Novak was a better shooter. Arguing otherwise, or that Sam was his equal, based on three-point percentage minus context would be a mistake.
Sam had the benefit of almost always being the second, and sometimes the third, most dangerous outside shooter on the floor. That provided him with a lot of clean looks. And, unlike Steve for a season-plus, slowing down Sam was never the focus of an opposing defense.

But if you insist on stats, maybe compare True Shooting percentage for a more accurate measure.

None of this is to say Sam isn't a great shooter. He is. But again, his NBA future will come down to whether he can get clean looks, not whether he can make them.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on June 26, 2021, 04:08:50 PM
Novak was a better shooter. Arguing otherwise, or that Sam was his equal, based on three-point percentage minus context would be a mistake.
Sam had the benefit of almost always being the second, and sometimes the third, most dangerous outside shooter on the floor. That provided him with a lot of clean looks. And, unlike Steve for a season-plus, slowing down Sam was never the focus of an opposing defense.

But if you insist on stats, maybe compare True Shooting percentage for a more accurate measure.

None of this is to say Sam isn't a great shooter. He is. But again, his NBA future will come down to whether he can get clean looks, not whether he can make them.
Sam has always been a player that works within a team concept and gets his clean looks that way.

Does the NBA 24 second shot make it more or less likely Sam can get clean looks?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on June 26, 2021, 04:18:59 PM
First question answer question was humorous

https://www.nba.com/warriors/video/teams/warriors/2021/06/07/343252/1623110956436-predraftworkouthauserv01-343252
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on June 26, 2021, 05:48:07 PM
First question answer question was humorous

https://www.nba.com/warriors/video/teams/warriors/2021/06/07/343252/1623110956436-predraftworkouthauserv01-343252

Joey = Yoko
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 26, 2021, 06:53:00 PM
Lol, dude from Warriors Sound was clueless as to Howard/Hauser relationship. What did Markus tell you about NBA workout? Howard to Hauser, "go fook yourself." Thought Sam handled it very well.
Also, dissed Woj silently with his praise of Tony, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on June 30, 2021, 09:18:54 PM
Sam Shooting drill highlights at the NBA Combine

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pGLUxMQPAEc
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on July 04, 2021, 07:22:46 PM
Sam listed 75th best available by ESPN

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/4
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: mileskishnish72 on July 04, 2021, 07:57:58 PM
Sam listed 75th best available by ESPN

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/4

But they only draft 60 or so.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on July 04, 2021, 10:09:21 PM
But they only draft 60 or so.

Yep.

But fairly often guys who are ranked much lower than 60 get drafted, and some ranked higher don't. What was Lazar ranked?

Also, one doesn't need to be drafted to make it. Any of us who follow the NBA could probably name a dozen right off the top of our heads.

I'd rate Sam as a mild long shot. I actually expect him to have an NBA career, and wouldn't be surprised if he's drafted.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on July 10, 2021, 06:53:46 PM
Sam projected number 57 to The Hornets in the latest NBADraft.net mock draft. I think his solid performance at the combine has drawn some interest

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/?year-mock=2021
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on July 10, 2021, 10:27:50 PM
Not surprised.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on July 24, 2021, 07:02:34 AM
Some interesting comments by Adam at the end of this article
https://www.nba.com/pacers/news/wednesdays-workout-filled-first-round-talent
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 24, 2021, 08:21:26 AM
Has Sam axed Markus four advice as he tries out fore teems, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on July 24, 2021, 10:10:27 AM
I've seen Sam in a handful of mock drafts in the 50 to 60 range, but he's undrafted in the vast majority.  So while it wouldn't totally surprise me to see Sam drafted, I expect he will go undrafted and sign a two way contract.

I think Sam gets a cup of coffee in the NBA but he's out of the league in 3 years. Sam got absolutely dominated by Kispert when Virginia played Gonzaga.  That's a snapshot of the struggles Sam will have in the NBA.

But he'll make good money in Europe someday.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: dgies9156 on July 24, 2021, 10:52:09 AM
My gosh, if we had a three point shot in the Al era, Gary Rosenberger would have started as a freshman, Earl Tatum would have been among top five beat Warriors and BT’s rep would have been a lot better.

Bo would have been a completely different player — more in the Novak mode.

The game would have been very different but Al would have adapted.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jockey on July 24, 2021, 11:50:02 AM
My gosh, if we had a three point shot in the Al era, Gary Rosenberger would have started as a freshman, Earl Tatum would have been among top five beat Warriors and BT’s rep would have been a lot better.

Bo would have been a completely different player — more in the Novak mode.

The game would have been very different but Al would have adapted.

No would not have been a Novak-type player. In any way.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on July 24, 2021, 01:55:27 PM
Has Sam axed Markus four advice as he tries out fore teems, hey?

Black folks absolutely LOVE it when old white guys use ebonics, nu?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 24, 2021, 03:38:25 PM
Boychick, dis iz da wey eye talk, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on July 24, 2021, 04:51:58 PM
Like a moron? Good to know.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on July 29, 2021, 06:04:29 PM
https://dailyknicks.com/2021/07/14/3-small-forwards-new-york-knicks-look-draft-2021/4/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on July 30, 2021, 05:56:58 AM
Hauser to Celtics on two way deal
https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1420983228396101637
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on July 30, 2021, 08:06:27 AM
Oh boy.  I listen to Lowe's podcast pretty consistently and multiple times him and/or his guest this season would talk about "what's wrong with the Celtics."  They always talked about how the Celtics were last in the NBA in the "hockey assist" and in the number of passes.  Has Sam written his letter telling his coach how the game is meant to be played yet?  Or did he get to have a sit down with Udoka discussing how Udoka should run his team before he decided to sign with the Celtics?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Lens on July 30, 2021, 08:30:28 AM
Oh boy.  I listen to Lowe's podcast pretty consistently and multiple times him and/or his guest this season would talk about "what's wrong with the Celtics."  They always talked about how the Celtics were last in the NBA in the "hockey assist" and in the number of passes.  Has Sam written his letter telling his coach how the game is meant to be played yet?  Or did he get to have a sit down with Udoka discussing how Udoka should run his team before he decided to sign with the Celtics?

It's incredible to me that people are still dragging a family from SPASH that sent their kids to play for Izzo & Tony Bennett. 

It's about team. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on July 30, 2021, 08:38:54 AM
It's incredible to me that people are still dragging a family from SPASH that sent their kids to play for Izzo & Tony Bennett. 

It's about team.

They got it right.  Combined to win exactly the same number of NCAA Tournament games under their new HOF coaches as they did at MU.

Maybe they were part of the issue...
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on July 30, 2021, 08:57:42 AM
It's incredible to me that people are still dragging a family from SPASH that sent their kids to play for Izzo & Tony Bennett. 

It's about team.

Nothing says "It's about team" like "I'm gonna leave my team because I'm not getting enough shots."
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on July 30, 2021, 09:33:26 AM
An interesting comparison/contrast:

Simone Biles and the Olympics vs Hauser bros and Marquette bball
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on July 30, 2021, 10:50:56 AM
An interesting comparison/contrast:

Simone Biles and the Olympics vs Hauser bros and Marquette bball

Safety/mental health vs 'gimmie the ball'
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on July 30, 2021, 11:07:47 AM
Safety/mental health vs 'gimmie the ball'

Simone would get a lot more sympathy if she played for Al McGuire
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on July 30, 2021, 11:35:55 AM
Wojo would have Simone jacking up shots every time down the floor.  It's not every season that you get a world-class talent like that...
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jockey on July 30, 2021, 12:19:46 PM
Simone would get a lot more sympathy if she played for Al McGuire

Funny post, Unc.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Lens on July 30, 2021, 02:22:24 PM
Nothing says "It's about team" like "I'm gonna leave my team because I'm not getting enough shots."

And goes off to UVA and MSU.  For F's sake they didn't go to Iowa State.  They went to the two biggest team first programs in the country.  The least sexy teams in the country.  The most put aside your own ambitions in the country. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: BLM on July 30, 2021, 02:31:42 PM
And goes off to UVA and MSU.  For F's sake they didn't go to Iowa State.  They went to the two biggest team first programs in the country.  The least sexy teams in the country.  The most put aside your own ambitions in the country.

Went great for them.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on July 30, 2021, 02:40:22 PM
Went great for them.

Sam thinks so and when it’s all said and done Joey likely will too. How you think it went for them means absolutely nothing.

Bigger question: how’d it work out for Wojo? Is he still at Duke North or did he take over the program in Durham?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Lens on July 30, 2021, 03:40:12 PM
Went great for them.

The tournament's a crap shoot, I'm really a badger fan?

Re: Sam: 1st Team All ACC (decent conference).  Got to spend two seasons around the one of the Top 5 coaches in college, a coach who could walk into almost any NBA job right now.  Stop being so obtuse. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on July 30, 2021, 03:49:41 PM
Do people watch Michigan State?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on July 30, 2021, 03:50:22 PM
And goes off to UVA and MSU.  For F's sake they didn't go to Iowa State.  They went to the two biggest team first programs in the country.  The least sexy teams in the country.  The most put aside your own ambitions in the country.

Yeah, this tired old argument gets trotted out more than a pony in a traveling circus.
Every single thing we know about the Hausers' decision points to it being about Markus and not wanting to play a secondary role to him. If it was about anything else, why did they still attend the team post-season banquet? Why did they not alert the coaching staff in postseason meetings? Why did they wait until Markus announced he was returning?
Here's why: Their decision was based on whether or not Markus returned.
Look, I don't know why some people here need to keep spinning the Hausers' decision as anything but looking out for their own interests. There's nothing wrong with them looking out for their own interests. If they were unhappy at Marquette and thought they'd do better/be happier elsewhere, I 100% agree with their decision to leave and don't begrudge them for it.

The whole idea that they can't look out for their own interests while attending Virginia or Michigan State is flat-out stupid. They didn't choose those schools because "we're team first guys." They chose those schools because they're elite programs with elite coaches who they believed would out them in the best position to attain whatever goals they're looking to attain.
The idea that Joey Hauser - Joey Hauser! - chose MSU because he wants to be just another cog in wheel is just laughable.

 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on July 30, 2021, 03:51:47 PM
Do people watch Michigan State?

Nah. They're unsexy. Also, their coach is the reincarnation of Norm Dale.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on July 30, 2021, 03:53:39 PM
The tournament's a crap shoot, I'm really a badger fan?

Re: Sam: 1st Team All ACC (decent conference).  Got to spend two seasons around the one of the Top 5 coaches in college, a coach who could walk into almost any NBA job right now.  Stop being so obtuse.
Hoo boy.
Tony Bennett, who's been ousted in the first round by 16 and 13 seeds, respectively, in two of the last three NCAA tournaments can walk into any NBA job?
Now who's being obtuse?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: TAMU Eagle on July 30, 2021, 04:07:06 PM
UVA finished second in Sam's initial recruitment.

MSU finished second in Joey's initial recruitment.

Sam wanted to go to MU over UVA.

Joey wanted to go to MSU over MU, but made a family decision to attend MU.

Joey ended up not liking MU for a variety of reasons, and resenting MU for keeping him from going to MSU.

Joey's resentment festers, causes issues in the locker room, specifically with Markus. Sam makes a family decision to support his brother. Wojo doesn't figure out how to manage the situation.

Joey and Sam hope locker room issues will go away with Markus going pro. Markus returns.

Joey decides to transfer, Sam makes a family decision to support his brother by transferring too. Wojo does not handle it well, further burning the bridge

Joey and Sam almost make another family decision to go to UW together. Upon reflection, they finally decide to do what's best for them individually. Joey goes to MSU like he always wanted. Sam goes to UVA, the closest runner up in his initial recruitment.

Wojo gets shiitcanned two years later. Sam has a fantastic season at UVA. Joey has a disappointing season at MSU.

I've heard literal dozens versions of the Hausergate drama. This is the version that makes the most sense to me. They're not saints, they're not sinners. They're not selfless, they're not quitters. They're just college students who took awhile to figure out what they wanted out off their college experience and where they could get that. I thank them for their time at MU and wish them nothing but the best. If it weren't for this board bringing them up regularly, I probably would give them as much thought as I've given any other transfer out MUBB.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on July 30, 2021, 04:10:28 PM
And goes off to UVA and MSU.  For F's sake they didn't go to Iowa State.  They went to the two biggest team first programs in the country.  The least sexy teams in the country.  The most put aside your own ambitions in the country.

+ infinity. Leaving Marquette to go “shot hunting” at UVA under TB or MSU under Izzo is more contrary to common sense than almost anything ever opined on Scoop. It totally defies logic. For the butthurt, though, reason flies out the window
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on July 30, 2021, 05:20:27 PM
+ infinity. Leaving Marquette to go “shot hunting” at UVA under TB or MSU under Izzo is more contrary to common sense than almost anything ever opined on Scoop. It totally defies logic. For the butthurt, though, reason flies out the window

This is a false choice, Lenny.
It's not "shot hunters" or "selfless heroes who just want to play team ball."
As TAMU correctly puts it, they're not sinners or saints. Just a couple of college basketball players who decided their best interests lied elsewhere. I understand some want to lionize them to make Wojo look worse, but that's every bit the false narrative as saying they're selfish babies.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on July 30, 2021, 05:20:37 PM
UVA finished second in Sam's initial recruitment.

MSU finished second in Joey's initial recruitment.

Sam wanted to go to MU over UVA.

Joey wanted to go to MSU over MU, but made a family decision to attend MU.

Joey ended up not liking MU for a variety of reasons, and resenting MU for keeping him from going to MSU.

Joey's resentment festers, causes issues in the locker room, specifically with Markus. Sam makes a family decision to support his brother. Wojo doesn't figure out how to manage the situation.

Joey and Sam hope locker room issues will go away with Markus going pro. Markus returns.

Joey decides to transfer, Sam makes a family decision to support his brother by transferring too. Wojo does not handle it well, further burning the bridge

Joey and Sam almost make another family decision to go to UW together. Upon reflection, they finally decide to do what's best for them individually. Joey goes to MSU like he always wanted. Sam goes to UVA, the closest runner up in his initial recruitment.

Wojo gets shiitcanned two years later. Sam has a fantastic season at UVA. Joey has a disappointing season at MSU.

I've heard literal dozens versions of the Hausergate drama. This is the version that makes the most sense to me. They're not saints, they're not sinners. They're not selfless, they're not quitters. They're just college students who took awhile to figure out what they wanted out off their college experience and where they could get that. I thank them for their time at MU and wish them nothing but the best. If it weren't for this board bringing them up regularly, I probably would give them as much thought as I've given any other transfer out MUBB.

Yap
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on July 30, 2021, 08:49:49 PM
 :-X
This is a false choice, Lenny.
It's not "shot hunters" or "selfless heroes who just want to play team ball."
As TAMU correctly puts it, they're not sinners or saints. Just a couple of college basketball players who decided their best interests lied elsewhere. I understand some want to lionize them to make Wojo look worse, but that's every bit the false narrative as saying they're selfish babies.

Pak

Of course the Hausers thought their best interests were elsewhere. That’s why they left. What were those “self interests” in their own minds?  On one side of the argument we’re folks who insisted that those “self interests” were more shots and higher usage. That didn’t make sense to me. The other side of the argument was that their “self interests” included playing for coaches who were proven winners and favored a more balanced offensive philosophy. Given their backgrounds and the coaches/programs they chose this made perfect sense.

I don’t think anyone in this whole situation was saint or sinner. Neither does Lens. The haters who refuse to look at this logically? That’s a different story.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: The Lens on July 31, 2021, 07:15:32 AM
UVA finished second in Sam's initial recruitment.

MSU finished second in Joey's initial recruitment.

Sam wanted to go to MU over UVA.

Joey wanted to go to MSU over MU, but made a family decision to attend MU.

Joey ended up not liking MU for a variety of reasons, and resenting MU for keeping him from going to MSU.

Joey's resentment festers, causes issues in the locker room, specifically with Markus. Sam makes a family decision to support his brother. Wojo doesn't figure out how to manage the situation.

Joey and Sam hope locker room issues will go away with Markus going pro. Markus returns.

Joey decides to transfer, Sam makes a family decision to support his brother by transferring too. Wojo does not handle it well, further burning the bridge

Joey and Sam almost make another family decision to go to UW together. Upon reflection, they finally decide to do what's best for them individually. Joey goes to MSU like he always wanted. Sam goes to UVA, the closest runner up in his initial recruitment.

Wojo gets shiitcanned two years later. Sam has a fantastic season at UVA. Joey has a disappointing season at MSU.

I've heard literal dozens versions of the Hausergate drama. This is the version that makes the most sense to me. They're not saints, they're not sinners. They're not selfless, they're not quitters. They're just college students who took awhile to figure out what they wanted out off their college experience and where they could get that. I thank them for their time at MU and wish them nothing but the best. If it weren't for this board bringing them up regularly, I probably would give them as much thought as I've given any other transfer out MUBB.

💯✌🏻
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Jockey on July 31, 2021, 10:46:49 AM
I’m glad we finally got around to talking about this.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 31, 2021, 10:57:22 AM
:-X
Pak

Of course the Hausers thought their best interests were elsewhere. That’s why they left. What were those “self interests” in their own minds?  On one side of the argument we’re folks who insisted that those “self interests” were more shots and higher usage. That didn’t make sense to me. The other side of the argument was that their “self interests” included playing for coaches who were proven winners and favored a more balanced offensive philosophy. Given their backgrounds and the coaches/programs they chose this made perfect sense.

I don’t think anyone in this whole situation was saint or sinner. Neither does Lens. The haters who refuse to look at this logically? That’s a different story.




Nah, I think you are putting too much of this on Markus and Wojo.  Sam seemed absolutely fine playing with Markus for three seasons.  And honestly if Joey had gone to MSU in the first place, I think there is zero doubt that Sam would have finished his career at MU.

I think TAMU hit the nail on the head.  Joey made the wrong choice and that caused them both to leave.  Sure Wojo didn't handle it well no doubt, but the idea that they were driven to play the pure basketball that Tony Bennett and Tom Izzo coach versus the crap basketball that Wojo coaches doesn't really fully stand up to logic.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on August 01, 2021, 11:46:53 AM
Interview with Sam Hauser regarding his choice of Celtics or Timberwolves. Also some commentary on MU and UVA experiences.

 https://www.stevenspointjournal.com/story/sports/high-school/basketball/2021/07/30/stevens-point-native-sam-hauser-signs-contract-boston-celtics/5421220001/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: real chili 83 on August 01, 2021, 03:58:03 PM
Yawn.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021 Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 02, 2021, 05:47:18 PM

And honestly if Joey had gone to MSU in the first place, I think there is zero doubt that Sam would have finished his career at MU.

This.

I like the Celtics as a landing spot for Hauser. I’d be surprised if he didn’t get a good NBA run this season.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on August 11, 2021, 05:27:55 AM
Box Score Celtics versus Nuggets NBA Summer League

https://www.nba.com/game/bos-vs-den-1522100018/box-score#box-score

Sam had a typical Sam game playing within the flow . Kind of like his freshman season at MU.

Unfortunately Markus was  DNP coaches decision for the Nuggets . I read elsewhere he was not available for the game
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on August 11, 2021, 06:39:34 AM
Box Score Celtics versus Nuggets NBA Summer League

https://www.nba.com/game/bos-vs-den-1522100018/box-score#box-score

Sam had a typical Sam game playing within the flow . Kind of like his freshman season at MU.

Unfortunately Markus was  DNP coaches decision for the Nuggets . I read elsewhere he was not available for the game
My eyes saw a rather pedestrian effort playing with/against guys fighting for spots 10-15 on a roster. He's going to have to do more than he did last night to get a call up, IMO.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 11, 2021, 10:34:20 AM
Unfortunately Markus was  DNP coaches decision for the Nuggets . I read elsewhere he was not available for the game

In protocol with a bunch of the roster.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 11, 2021, 10:44:54 AM
My eyes saw a rather pedestrian effort playing with/against guys fighting for spots 10-15 on a roster. He's going to have to do more than he did last night to get a call up, IMO.

He is a spot-up shooter who mostly will linger on the perimeter, which is exactly what he did last night. That will be his offensive role. Defensively, he more than held his own. He has a two-way contract, so he probably will see time in the NBA, but he is guaranteed little. We'll see!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 11, 2021, 10:49:39 AM
If he hits shots, he will play.  If he doesn't, he won't.  The rest of his skills are rather run of the mill for the NBA at this point.  But who knows? 

The NBA lets players develop more than they used to.  He will have the opportunity.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on August 11, 2021, 10:58:29 AM
He is a spot-up shooter who mostly will linger on the perimeter, which is exactly what he did last night. That will be his offensive role. Defensively, he more than held his own. He has a two-way contract, so he probably will see time in the NBA, but he is guaranteed little. We'll see!
We'll agree to disagree on this. He was matched up with Bol a few times. Did not match up well. He's going to have to do a little more than linger on the perimeter. There are at least 17 guys with guaranteed contracts with the Celtics. Not too mention Begarin and Lawson. It's an uphill climb for him.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 11, 2021, 11:20:43 AM
I don't think anyone reasonably thinks that Hauser will make the Celtics this year.  He is on a two-way deal, which means he will be mostly in the G League, and may get a call up due to injury to sit on the end of the bench. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 11, 2021, 02:21:32 PM
We'll agree to disagree on this. He was matched up with Bol a few times. Did not match up well. He's going to have to do a little more than linger on the perimeter. There are at least 17 guys with guaranteed contracts with the Celtics. Not too mention Begarin and Lawson. It's an uphill climb for him.

I saw Bol go right through Hauser once; otherwise, I don't remember Bol or any other Nuggets player owning him. I will say I didn't come close to watching every minute of the game, however. Hauser had good help-D position whenever he was on the court, had a couple solid close-outs that helped force missed 3s, got good rebounding position to finish with 5 boards.

But we actually agree on most of this, lawdog. Uphill climb to be sure, as it is for all rookies on 2-way deals. We'll see!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on August 11, 2021, 07:58:28 PM
Who ya got making a roster?  S. Hauser or Max Strus? 

Oh...I didn't realize Strus is officially on the Heat.  Did anyone see this when he was at DePaul?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: We R Final Four on August 11, 2021, 08:27:47 PM
Who ya got making a roster?  S. Hauser or Max Strus? 

Oh...I didn't realize Strus is officially on the Heat.  Did anyone see this when he was at DePaul?
Yes. There was talk about Strauss heading into his last year as a fringe NBA guy. He could score in bunches and could sometimes hit from 30’.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on August 11, 2021, 08:29:28 PM
Who ya got making a roster?  S. Hauser or Max Strus? 

Oh...I didn't realize Strus is officially on the Heat.  Did anyone see this when he was at DePaul?
Yes. Strus has good size for a guard-6-6, and could score from deep or on the drive. Thought he had a chance to make a roster.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on August 11, 2021, 08:30:28 PM
Yes. There was talk about Strauss heading into his last year as a fringe NBA guy. He could score in bunches and could sometimes hit from 30’.

He must be a better athlete than Sammy. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on August 11, 2021, 08:58:15 PM
Quicker, more versatile.  Shot release is quicker.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on August 12, 2021, 11:14:10 AM
Regardless of the comparison, I'm still shocked Strus has stuck in the league.  I don't think he's athletic enough to be a 2 and he's kind of undersized as a 3.  He was a good shooter but not a great one.  But full marks to him for hustling and finding a spot.

The only Big East alum more surprising to me is McDermott from Butler.  He was just a guy and another undersized SF, but he got decent minutes on his two way and he's stuck around.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on August 12, 2021, 08:08:33 PM
Big game from Sam tonight.  6-8 from distance.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 12, 2021, 09:50:46 PM
Not only did Hauser hit shot after shot after shot -- when he finally missed with a couple minutes to play, the announcer said something like, "It just seems so weird to see him miss" -- but he also played very well on defense during the time I watched. On one first-half possession, he ended up on Suggs in a switch, cut off Suggs in the lane, and forced a difficult shot that Suggs missed. I am not saying Hauser is a young Iguodala on D. I'm saying he's a good team defender with long arms and intelligence.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on August 12, 2021, 10:11:41 PM
Not only did Hauser hit shot after shot after shot -- when he finally missed with a couple minutes to play, the announcer said something like, "It just seems so weird to see him miss" -- but he also played very well on defense during the time I watched. On one first-half possession, he ended up on Suggs in a switch, cut off Suggs in the lane, and forced a difficult shot that Suggs missed. I am not saying Hauser is a young Iguodala on D. I'm saying he's a good team defender with long arms and intelligence.

Yep, not everyone can be a smothering menace on the perimeter like Davion Mitchell.  Or roam and eat up space to make insane plays like Giannis.  But there is something to be said on defense for always knowing where to be and not getting lost.  You can deal with someone getting beat 1 on 1 if they aren't going to be out of position or completely blow off the ball assignments
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on August 12, 2021, 10:41:08 PM
Sam has always had a knack for being on the right place on the floor at the right time. That leads to clean shot opportunities and also helps on the defensive side. Makes him a very easy player for his teammates to play with.

Was nice to see him do well tonight. 

 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on August 12, 2021, 10:45:30 PM
Sam has always had a knack for being on the right place on the floor at the right time. That leads to clean shot opportunities and also helps on the defensive side. Makes him a very easy player for his teammates to play with.

Was nice to see him do well tonight. 

 

True.  But remember this is S-League Herman.  85% of those guys don't make an NBA roster.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 12, 2021, 11:07:10 PM
True.  But remember this is S-League Herman.  85% of those guys don't make an NBA roster.

Though I don't know for sure that Hauser will be an NBA player (how could anybody know that?), I think he will be. He isn't merely good at the very thing that NBA teams value most at this point in time; he is excellent at it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on August 13, 2021, 12:08:29 AM
True.  But remember this is S-League Herman.  85% of those guys don't make an NBA roster.
I think for guys like Sam , Summer league is more of a proof of concept . The visibility is helpful.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 13, 2021, 12:57:42 PM
I think for guys like Sam , Summer league is more of a proof of concept . The visibility is helpful.

Outstanding point, 9-9-9.

Hauser is not some one-and-done with a limited body of work. He's been around for a long time and Boston knew exactly what his game was when they signed him. Performances like he had last night merely serve as confirmation.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on August 15, 2021, 08:41:56 AM
Celts officially announcing signing of Sam
https://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pressrelease/celtics-sign-sam-hauser-two-way-contract
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: rocket ALM surgeon on August 15, 2021, 09:14:36 AM
Celts officially announcing signing of Sam
https://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pressrelease/celtics-sign-sam-hauser-two-way-contract

   3-ways must be a little more money then, eyn'a?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on August 15, 2021, 10:57:33 AM
I think for Sam, the defense isn’t a huge concern. Realistically, he’s going to be a guy that’s at the end of the bench that may provide some shooting in bursts. They could cover his defense up with other guys.

It certainly would limit his upside, but I think he’s got a path to an NBA roster.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: warriorchick on August 15, 2021, 06:08:05 PM

Do you think they will put Sam up on the wall in the Al of MU players in the NBA?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: HutchwasClutch on August 15, 2021, 06:17:07 PM
Do you think they will put Sam up on the wall in the Al of MU players in the NBA?

Yes, he left Wojo’s program. Wojo thankfully is gone. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on August 15, 2021, 09:02:29 PM
Do you think they will put Sam up on the wall in the Al of MU players in the NBA?

They didn't put Deonte up. I know sam was around longer but that's the only comparison I can think of
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on August 15, 2021, 10:18:05 PM
Do you think they will put Sam up on the wall in the Al of MU players in the NBA?
I would say given the fact he had three very good years at MU, yes, they will. Provided he actually stays in the league a while .
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on August 15, 2021, 10:49:04 PM
I would say given the fact he had three very good years at MU, yes, they will. Provided he actually stays in the league a while .

If he doesn't make it do you think he will play on the MU TBT team? 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: muwarrior69 on August 16, 2021, 11:57:41 AM
Do you think they will put Sam up on the wall in the Al of MU players in the NBA?

Right next to the Dear Wojo "letter".
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on August 18, 2021, 07:35:23 AM
Sam finished up Summer League shooting 46.2 percent from 3 , 50 percent overall and had 9 points a game , 4.8 boards and 2 assists in 21.5 minutes per game.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 18, 2021, 09:24:35 AM
Sam finished up Summer League shooting 46.2 percent from 3 , 50 percent overall and had 9 points a game , 4.8 boards and 2 assists in 21.5 minutes per game.

I remain more convinced now than ever that Hauser will play in the NBA.

During Summer League play, I did not see a guy who is a major defensive liability. But I did see a guy who is excellent at the one thing every NBA team desperately wants. That he's also 6-8 and smart matters, too.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 18, 2021, 09:58:29 AM
I think he will play in the NBA, but let's not put too much emphasis on how someone looks in summer league.  The best in the world are on a beach somewhere.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 18, 2021, 10:01:58 AM
When the going gets tough, the Hausers get going.  Out the door
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 18, 2021, 11:59:20 AM
I think he will play in the NBA, but let's not put too much emphasis on how someone looks in summer league.  The best in the world are on a beach somewhere.

I said I thought he'd play in the NBA, and you apparently agree.

I wasn't saying he'd be the next Dirk. And I wasn't even suggesting that he was going to be anything more than a garbage-time player ... because I don't know. It's too early to know. The beautiful thing is that we'll get to see!

When the going gets tough, the Hausers get going.  Out the door

So you don't think S. Hauser will get time in the NBA, Unk?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 18, 2021, 12:10:08 PM
I said I thought he'd play in the NBA, and you apparently agree.

I wasn't saying he'd be the next Dirk. And I wasn't even suggesting that he was going to be anything more than a garbage-time player ... because I don't know. It's too early to know. The beautiful thing is that we'll get to see!

So you don't think S. Hauser will get time in the NBA, Unk?

Probably but he won’t like when things don’t go his way.  Letters do even less good in the NBA.  No Babies Allowed
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: TAMU Eagle on August 18, 2021, 12:37:22 PM
Probably but he won’t like when things don’t go his way.  Letters do even less good in the NBA.  No Babies Allowed

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/tbt.gif)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 18, 2021, 12:40:52 PM
Probably but he won’t like when things don’t go his way.  Letters do even less good in the NBA.  No Babies Allowed

There was a long stretch last night during which Carson Edwards and Payton Pritchard were just jacking up 3s without even looking his way, and I have to admit that I chuckled and thought: "Well, maybe it's time for a letter to the coach."

But seriously, I have enough fond memories of Sam's time at Marquette to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was placed in a no-win situation due to Joey's immaturity and Wojo's poor handling of the issue. So I do find myself rooting for S. Hauser to make it in the association.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 18, 2021, 12:56:56 PM
There was a long stretch last night during which Carson Edwards and Payton Pritchard were just jacking up 3s without even looking his way, and I have to admit that I chuckled and thought: "Well, maybe it's time for a letter to the coach."

But seriously, I have enough fond memories of Sam's time at Marquette to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was placed in a no-win situation due to Joey's immaturity and Wojo's poor handling of the issue. So I do find myself rooting for S. Hauser to make it in the association.

Eh, Al wouldn’t have let him near campus
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 18, 2021, 12:57:17 PM
I said I thought he'd play in the NBA, and you apparently agree.

I wasn't saying he'd be the next Dirk. And I wasn't even suggesting that he was going to be anything more than a garbage-time player ... because I don't know. It's too early to know. The beautiful thing is that we'll get to see!

So you don't think S. Hauser will get time in the NBA, Unk?


You said you “saw someone who wasn’t a major defensive liability.”  Let’s see what happens when he plays against better players than he sees at Summer League game.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: HutchwasClutch on August 18, 2021, 01:11:01 PM
Eh, Al wouldn’t have let him near campus

Maybe you’re being facetious, otherwise, you’ve got to be kidding.  Any coach would want a player of his caliber.  And Al fully understood you needed plenty of high level talent to get to the top.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 18, 2021, 01:22:14 PM
Maybe you’re being facetious, otherwise, you’ve got to be kidding.  Any coach would want a player of his caliber.  And Al fully understood you needed plenty of high level talent to get to the top.

Al wouldn’t take letter writers
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on August 18, 2021, 01:54:32 PM
I think he will play in the NBA, but let's not put too much emphasis on how someone looks in summer league.  The best in the world are on a beach somewhere.
This! A thousand times this. Saw an article  raving about some phenom for the Heat being the back up center. Guy is rail skinny and will be pushed around like a rag doll when beach time is over.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 18, 2021, 04:57:33 PM

You said you “saw someone who wasn’t a major defensive liability.”  Let’s see what happens when he plays against better players than he sees at Summer League game.

Fair point.

I’ve used the phrase “we’ll see” over and over again.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on August 18, 2021, 07:22:44 PM
Two words:  Summer League

That's not to say Sam doesn't have a really important skill-set, and he may in fact stick on a roster, but SL stats essentially mean nothing.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 18, 2021, 07:26:35 PM
Did I miss a whole lotta Scoopers claiming that Hauser’s play during Summer League guaranteed him NBA superstar status?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on August 18, 2021, 07:29:15 PM
Did I miss a whole lotta Scoopers claiming that Hauser’s play during Summer League guaranteed him NBA superstar status?

Agreed. I think most talking up Sam are doing it as he passed his first test (at least in our humble basketball minds). I don’t foresee him as more than a 13-15th guy, but I’m a little more confident in him being on an NBA bench now than before SL.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on August 18, 2021, 07:41:24 PM
Did I miss a whole lotta Scoopers claiming that Hauser’s play during Summer League guaranteed him NBA superstar status?

All I'm saying is people should calm down a bit. My synopsis of Summer League is that.... well.....it's Summer League.   I once golfed  with a former PGA player and was tied with him through three holes.  Uhhhh....that didn't last long.  :(
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 18, 2021, 08:31:25 PM
Did I miss a whole lotta Scoopers claiming that Hauser’s play during Summer League guaranteed him NBA superstar status?

Scoop has projection issues.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on August 18, 2021, 08:43:04 PM
Save The Date : December 21

Joey versus Jamal Cain

https://www.theonlycolors.com/2021/8/17/22629158/michigan-state-mens-basketball-will-play-oakland-on-dec-21st
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on August 18, 2021, 09:14:12 PM
All I'm saying is people should calm down a bit. My synopsis of Summer League is that.... well.....it's Summer League.   I once golfed  with a former PGA player and was tied with him through three holes.  Uhhhh....that didn't last long.  :(

Again, I’m not hearing a bunch of people who are anything other than calm about Hauser’s prospects.

And SL has nothing to do with it. I’ve been saying he’ll have an NBA career long before SL. I even made a bet with keefe!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on August 18, 2021, 09:16:42 PM
Again, I’m not hearing a bunch of people who are anything other than calm about Hauser’s prospects.

And SL has nothing to do with it. I’ve been saying he’ll have an NBA career long before SL. I even made a bet with keefe!

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on August 19, 2021, 08:40:53 AM
Some video highlights of Sam’s best summer league game

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ab_EMkbJ7E8&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on August 29, 2021, 10:13:53 AM
Joey changing roster number from 20 to 10. Sam wore 10…

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/08/michigan-state-finalizes-2021-22-roster-with-seven-newcomers.html
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 29, 2021, 10:44:41 AM
Joey changing roster number from 20 to 10. Sam wore 10…

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/08/michigan-state-finalizes-2021-22-roster-with-seven-newcomers.html

Soft as charmin
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on August 29, 2021, 11:25:14 AM
He is half the player they thought they were getting?   Only plays one end of the floor?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on August 30, 2021, 01:19:46 PM
He's wearing his emotional maturity age on his back?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: TSmith34 on August 30, 2021, 01:26:35 PM
No, he's hoping people think he is actually Sam.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on September 06, 2021, 08:44:04 PM
Good interview with Sam regarding his plans to improve his overall game.

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2021/09/celtics-sam-hauser-on-how-he-can-stick-in-the-nba-besides-his-3-point-shooting.html
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on September 08, 2021, 09:00:48 AM
Joey to get $500 a month. Former MSU walk on who became a billionaire sponsoring team


https://247sports.com/college/marquette/board/104085/Contents/joey-hauser-to-get-paid-500-per-month-170499181/?page=1
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on September 09, 2021, 10:49:54 AM
Sam worked on an interesting off court project at UVA
https://www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2021/08/21/sam-hauser-celtics-profile-virginia-vegas
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on September 20, 2021, 12:40:27 PM
Mark your calendar now for the Maine Celtics versus Grand Rapid Gold.

Friday February 4        7 PM Grand Rapids at Maine
Sunday February 6      1 PM Grand Rapids at Maine
Thursday February 24  7 PM Maine at Grand Rapids

Sam versus Markus  I would say the over under on the combined scoring totals of both players will be 55.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on September 22, 2021, 09:35:16 AM
Mark your calendar now for the Maine Celtics versus Grand Rapid Gold.

Friday February 4        7 PM Grand Rapids at Maine
Sunday February 6      1 PM Grand Rapids at Maine
Thursday February 24  7 PM Maine at Grand Rapids

Sam versus Markus  I would say the over under on the combined scoring totals of both players will be 55.

If you're marking your calendar for this, you might need professional help.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on September 22, 2021, 09:49:39 AM
If you're marking your calendar for this, you might need professional help.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Also, you gotta think this is the only season for them to be in Grand Rapids.  Makes way more sense for the Nuggets to move them to Fort Collins or Colorado Springs.  Even Albuquerque, which had a G League team for awhile, is much better proximity than Grand Rapids.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on September 22, 2021, 10:37:35 AM
When the Pistons pulled their team, we were shocked that another team moved in. Denver makes no sense.   If I have nothing else going on, I may go to that game wearing MU stuff.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on September 22, 2021, 12:07:10 PM
When the Pistons pulled their team, we were shocked that another team moved in. Denver makes no sense.   If I have nothing else going on, I may go to that game wearing MU stuff.

Denver was one of 3 teams that didn't have an affiliate.  They took over the team in April I believe.  So makes sense that they just snapped up an available team, instead of starting from scratch.  And given it was relatively recent and didn't have a ton of time before summer league and camps, made sense to just keep it as is for now and move next year, most likely.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on September 22, 2021, 01:42:40 PM
When the Pistons pulled their team, we were shocked that another team moved in. Denver makes no sense.   If I have nothing else going on, I may go to that game wearing MU stuff.

Even if neither Markus nor Sam are there because they are with the Nuggets and Celtics, respectively?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on September 22, 2021, 01:52:51 PM
A Thursday night in February.   Probably not, but it could happen.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on October 12, 2021, 08:35:00 AM
Sam working on defense and shot.
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/lists/nba-boston-celtics-hauser-interview-2021-preseason/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on October 13, 2021, 02:28:51 PM
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/no-proven-star-but-plenty-of-breakout-candidates-for-michigan-state-basketball.html

Izzo think there is potential for Joey to have a bounce back year.     Talks about needing a guard to get him the ball.    Bygones.   I hope they find a fit.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BLM on October 13, 2021, 02:42:16 PM
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/no-proven-star-but-plenty-of-breakout-candidates-for-michigan-state-basketball.html

Izzo think there is potential for Joey to have a bounce back year.     Talks about needing a guard to get him the ball.    Bygones.   I hope they find a fit.

First priority to me would be the need to guard someone as good at basketball as I am.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 13, 2021, 03:21:05 PM
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/no-proven-star-but-plenty-of-breakout-candidates-for-michigan-state-basketball.html

Izzo think there is potential for Joey to have a bounce back year.     Talks about needing a guard to get him the ball.    Bygones.   I hope they find a fit.

He couldn’t guard a corpse
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on October 13, 2021, 03:23:02 PM
Not last year.   Good teams were adjusting their offenses specifically to attack him.   A new year and hope springs eternal.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 13, 2021, 03:59:52 PM
Not last year.   Good teams were adjusting their offenses specifically to attack him.   A new year and hope springs eternal.

Any kid that was recruited by Wojo can’t be any good.  End of story
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 13, 2021, 04:21:55 PM
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/no-proven-star-but-plenty-of-breakout-candidates-for-michigan-state-basketball.html

Izzo think there is potential for Joey to have a bounce back year.     Talks about needing a guard to get him the ball.    Bygones.   I hope they find a fit.

Someone like Markus who controls the ball a lot and who can extend space for a good shooter like Joey.

Oh wait...
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on October 13, 2021, 04:54:43 PM
Someone like Markus who controls the ball a lot and who can extend space for a good shooter like Joey.

Oh wait...

(https://y.yarn.co/7c6b241b-2dab-473d-bd48-2e82bdb750b0_text.gif)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on October 25, 2021, 11:26:07 AM
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/after-disappointing-covid-19-season-michigan-states-joey-hauser-back-to-having-fun-again.html

Joey ready for a bounce back season with Sparty.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 25, 2021, 12:33:57 PM
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/after-disappointing-covid-19-season-michigan-states-joey-hauser-back-to-having-fun-again.html

Joey ready for a bounce back season with Sparty.

I imagine he’ll have fun waving a towel on the bench
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on October 25, 2021, 02:57:01 PM
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/after-disappointing-covid-19-season-michigan-states-joey-hauser-back-to-having-fun-again.html

Joey ready for a bounce back season with Sparty.
Izzo says he will empower Joey to handle the ball more…….
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 25, 2021, 02:59:56 PM
Izzo says he will empower Joey to handle the ball more…….

Always sad to see an old coach develop dementia
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on October 25, 2021, 06:04:32 PM
Always sad to see an old coach develop dementia

lol
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: GooooMarquette on October 26, 2021, 11:21:18 PM
First priority to me would be the need to guard someone as good at basketball as I am.


Did you dunk in high school?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 27, 2021, 11:37:06 AM
Any kid that was recruited by Wojo can’t be any good.  End of story

Does that include Lewis or am I missing the teal?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on October 27, 2021, 11:39:41 AM

Did you dunk in high school?

Did you play at SLU?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 27, 2021, 11:48:25 AM
Does that include Lewis or am I missing the teal?

Shaka will coach him up
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on November 05, 2021, 02:56:11 PM
https://twitter.com/Big_Smooth10/status/1456709586845671428?s=20

Come get your idiot boys.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on November 05, 2021, 02:57:10 PM
https://twitter.com/Big_Smooth10/status/1456709586845671428?s=20

Come get your idiot boys.

Deleted
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on November 05, 2021, 02:58:13 PM
Don't feel like hosting it
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on November 05, 2021, 02:58:32 PM
https://twitter.com/Big_Smooth10/status/1456709586845671428?s=20

Come get your idiot boys.

Supporting Rodgers?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 05, 2021, 02:59:07 PM
Don't feel like hosting it

Least surprising thing posted here today
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on November 05, 2021, 02:59:36 PM
Least surprising thing posted here today

The lack of ambition of hosting the image?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 05, 2021, 03:53:35 PM
The lack of ambition of hosting the image?

No, a Stevens Point raised Person saying Fraudgers makes a good point
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on November 05, 2021, 04:01:02 PM
He's just asking questions, guys.

Also, congrats to the Celtics PR/social media staff for being so on the ball.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 05, 2021, 04:44:57 PM
Every day that goes by, Markus looks more and more like the righteous one in the whole Hausershima debacle.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 05, 2021, 05:36:03 PM
Every day that goes by, Markus looks more and more like the righteous one in the whole Hausershima debacle.

Fact
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 05, 2021, 05:37:19 PM
Every day that goes by, Markus looks more and more like the righteous one in the whole Hausershima debacle.




Bullchit, too sides ta da storey, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 05, 2021, 05:42:31 PM



Bullchit, too sides ta da storey, hey?

Yeah, I’ve heard them.  Hausers were team killers
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BLM on November 05, 2021, 05:45:46 PM
Yeah, I’ve heard them.  Hausers were team killers

No doubt.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on November 05, 2021, 06:14:51 PM
Yeah, I’ve heard them.  Hausers were team killers

+1

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on November 05, 2021, 06:27:18 PM
Yeah, I’ve heard them.  Hausers were team killers

Don’t hate on 4ever’s precious white knights.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 05, 2021, 07:33:35 PM
Don't feel like hosting it

@BigSmoothBrain is more like it
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on November 05, 2021, 09:14:16 PM
Yeah, I’ve heard them.  Hausers were team killers

Remember when MU didn't recruit Tyler Herro because the Hausers didn't want him around and we all assumed Herro must be a real jag?
Whoops
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 05, 2021, 09:16:14 PM
Joey is tentatively going to start for Sparty this year.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: rocket ALM surgeon on November 06, 2021, 07:27:03 AM
Joey is tentatively going to start for Sparty this year.

  yes, tentatively is probably a safe way to describe it...o-v-e-r r-a-t-e-d clap-clap clapclapclap
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on November 06, 2021, 04:58:40 PM
I remember when Joey was tentatively going to use his Freshman year as a stepping stone to the NBA as a one and done.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 06, 2021, 05:36:30 PM
Remember when MU didn't recruit Tyler Herro because the Hausers didn't want him around and we all assumed Herro must be a real jag?
Whoops

That’s an easy one for Doc Dribble. He just blames Wojo and Markus.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 06, 2021, 07:04:09 PM
I remember when Joey was tentatively going to use his Freshman year as a stepping stone to the NBA as a one and done.

He was one and done at Marquette.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on November 06, 2021, 07:05:43 PM
He was one and done at Marquette.
Boom! Tower to the hole with authority!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on November 06, 2021, 07:51:27 PM
He was one and done at Marquette.

Technically 1.5 and done.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 06, 2021, 07:59:06 PM
Fair
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 06, 2021, 08:13:34 PM
Technically 1.5 and done.

He checked out with his letter at the 80% mark of the season so "1.2 and flew". Rounds down to one.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 06, 2021, 09:35:31 PM
He checked out with his letter at the 80% mark of the season so "1.2 and flew". Rounds down to one.

I wish that was true. Might have won a couple down the stretch without Joey’s turnovers, bricks and horrid defense.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 10, 2021, 06:26:22 AM
Joey started ,played 24 minutes, with 8 7 and 3 in Spartans loss to the  Jay Hawks
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 10, 2021, 07:01:46 AM
Joey started ,played 24 minutes, with 8 7 and 3 in Spartans loss to the  Jay Hawks

Got torched over and over on defense
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 10, 2021, 07:11:43 AM
Sounds like Joey is the same player he was at Marquette.  How much did his ankle injury in HS impact Joey's lateral mobility and leaping ability?  He looked more explosive as a HS junior than he has in college.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 10, 2021, 07:17:19 AM
Relative to his competition level.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 10, 2021, 08:08:21 AM
Relative to his competition level.

Not just that, but relative to other top prospects like his brother, Sam, and Henry Ellenson.

Joey was quicker than Henry and had better vertical explosion than Sam. Now Joey looks like he has lead feet.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 10, 2021, 08:58:06 AM
Joey just peaked early. That’s it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 10, 2021, 09:16:13 AM
Not just that, but relative to other top prospects like his brother, Sam, and Henry Ellenson.

Joey was quicker than Henry and had better vertical explosion than Sam. Now Joey looks like he has lead feet.

Again, relative to his competition.   You are comparing him to Sam and Henry.   And I am not sure he was quicker than Henry.   Compare him to other 6'9 D1 forwards.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 10, 2021, 09:19:18 AM
Got torched over and over on defense

I tuned into the game during commercials of other games I was watching. Two out of three times, what I saw was Joey's man beating him downcourt.

It's become kinda fun to rag on him because of his outsized role in effing up a good season, not to mention the entire mutiny, but it is a little sad that a kid who once was thought of as a pro prospect is now a mediocre college player.

Joey's now in Year 3 on Izzo's watch -- including an entire year in which he had nothing else to do but work on his game -- and he's worse now than he was 3 years ago at Marquette despite being surrounded by better talent and a highly regarded coaching staff.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 10, 2021, 10:38:32 AM
Again, relative to his competition.   You are comparing him to Sam and Henry.   And I am not sure he was quicker than Henry.   Compare him to other 6'9 D1 forwards.

Tower-

I've seen tons of D1 prospects come through the WI HS basketball ranks.  I compare where Joey was in high school to other players when they were in HS.

Then I compare how those players performed in college versus how Joey is performing.  The college versions of Sam Dekker, Markus Landry, Sam Hauser, Henry Ellenson, and Jeronne Maymon had the speed and athleticism I expected based on their HS performances.

But Joey didn't.  That's my observation.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 10, 2021, 11:31:20 AM
Tower-

I've seen tons of D1 prospects come through the WI HS basketball ranks.  I compare where Joey was in high school to other players when they were in HS.

Then I compare how those players performed in college versus how Joey is performing.  The college versions of Sam Dekker, Markus Landry, Sam Hauser, Henry Ellenson, and Jeronne Maymon had the speed and athleticism I expected based on their HS performances.

But Joey didn't.  That's my observation.

The difference in Sam and Joey to me is anticipation. Sam has a 6th sense based up his intuition to overcome his footspeed. Joey never had that, and it shows at the top level he is now playing at. Sam could cheat to a spot, Joey is always behind. It doesn’t mean that Sam didn’t get abused on ISO’s.

I will rely on your expert assessment based on watching him in high school, but on his mix tapes, he never appeared fast to me. Him playing high school football didn’t seem the brightest thing in retrospect, I guess.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 10, 2021, 11:52:58 AM
When Sam really emerged as a sophomore at Marquette and Wojo was going after Joey, I asked those who had seen a lot of Joey something along the lines of: "Is Joey really better than Sam? Because if so, he must be one hell of a player."

Many folks chimed in that Joey was bigger, handled the ball better, passed better, just had better all-around offensive skills, etc.

Obviously, we've never seen that at the college level. So either Joey's injury before he started playing college ball was worse than everybody thought, or he was overrated, or Sam was underrated, or some combination of the above.

I like what Dr. B says about the difference in Sam and Joey. Sam is far superior from a basketball-IQ standpoint. He's also been very good at making the very most out of the ability he has. Almost surely harder-working, too. Sam turned himself into a historically good shooter, as well. Joey mostly regressed. It would be easy to blame the Marquette coaching staff ... except he's even worse now at Michigan State.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 10, 2021, 12:17:58 PM
Sam is averaging 22 PPG and 7 rebounds  in the G League with 55 percent from 3, 11 for 20.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Jockey on November 10, 2021, 12:34:54 PM
Sam is averaging 22 PPG and 7 rebounds  in the G League with 55 percent from 3, 11 for 20.

G League is to get guys ready for the show. They know how to play to Sam's strengths. And obviously, the biggest strength has always been shooting the ball.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 10, 2021, 12:40:41 PM
Sam is averaging 22 PPG and 7 rebounds  in the G League with 55 percent from 3, 11 for 20.

I’m not sure it means much. Vander Blue is the second all time leader scorer in the G League.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 10, 2021, 01:23:50 PM
Tower-

I've seen tons of D1 prospects come through the WI HS basketball ranks.  I compare where Joey was in high school to other players when they were in HS.

Then I compare how those players performed in college versus how Joey is performing.  The college versions of Sam Dekker, Markus Landry, Sam Hauser, Henry Ellenson, and Jeronne Maymon had the speed and athleticism I expected based on their HS performances.

But Joey didn't.  That's my observation.

Agreed.  Joey was skilled.  He was never super-athletic.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 10, 2021, 02:22:58 PM
I’m not sure it means much. Vander Blue is the second all time leader scorer in the G League.

Sam will play in a lot more more NBA games than Vander did or will. A lot more. He is elite at the one skill that every NBA team is desperate for.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Jockey on November 10, 2021, 02:55:02 PM
Agreed.  Joey was skilled.  He was never super-athletic.

Really a bad sign for Joey....,

In The Athletic today, there was an article about the KU-MSU matchups and the pro prospects from each team. Joey's name did not appear in the article.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 10, 2021, 03:02:13 PM
Sam will play in a lot more more NBA games than Vander did or will. A lot more. He is elite at the one skill that every NBA team is desperate for.

Would not disagree with you there. I have no ill will towards Sam and hope he gets a chance.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on November 10, 2021, 03:09:19 PM
Agreed.  Joey was skilled.  He was never super-athletic.

Skilled, good size, and at the HS level, that bigger guy who can go inside outside really covers up a lot of deficits.

But get to college, thats no longer unique.  He's slow of foot, doesn't seem to have a great work ethic given how little he's progressed, if at all, and he's immature
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 10, 2021, 03:21:15 PM
Skilled, good size, and at the HS level, that bigger guy who can go inside outside really covers up a lot of deficits.

But get to college, thats no longer unique.  He's slow of foot, doesn't seem to have a great work ethic given how little he's progressed, if at all, and he's immature

I've said it before, but it is difficult to get someone to work hard at something that they've never had to work hard because they've always been better at it than everyone they knew.

Unfortunately, the world is a big place, and there will always be someone better.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 10, 2021, 04:24:16 PM
I've said it before, but it is difficult to get someone to work hard at something that they've never had to work hard because they've always been better at it than everyone they knew.

Unfortunately, the world is a big place, and there will always be someone better.

But doesn't that happen all the time?

Aren't most 5-star and 4-star recruits (and hell, lots of 3-stars and 2-stars, too) the best player on their teams and even in their leagues when they're in high school? Don't the ones who turn out to be good in college get that way in part because they're willing to work hard, even if they never really had to work that hard in high school?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on November 10, 2021, 04:34:59 PM
But doesn't that happen all the time?

Aren't most 5-star and 4-star recruits (and hell, lots of 3-stars and 2-stars, too) the best player on their teams and even in their leagues when they're in high school? Don't the ones who turn out to be good in college get that way in part because they're willing to work hard, even if they never really had to work that hard in high school?

I would also note that the great majority of these kids (top recruits) play more AAU games than high school games, and in those they can't always count on being by far the best guy on the floor ... or even their own team.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on November 10, 2021, 04:43:54 PM
But doesn't that happen all the time?

Aren't most 5-star and 4-star recruits (and hell, lots of 3-stars and 2-stars, too) the best player on their teams and even in their leagues when they're in high school? Don't the ones who turn out to be good in college get that way in part because they're willing to work hard, even if they never really had to work that hard in high school?

It depends.  Very few of those exceptional recruits continue progressing without the work ethic and that starts young.  People often don't realize it.  I remember when they talked about Tebow was going to be an NFL success cause he "worked so much harder" in some silly statement overlooking the fact that even the best athletes still bust their ass from HS on.

My best friend in college was a FB player.  Freakish athlete.  All State safety, All conference WR.  Best player on every team he played except his HS team cause he played with his older brother who played a few years in the NFL.  It all came easy to him.  He did what he had to, but he didn't have some insane work ethic.  He was pretty open about saying he'd rather play basketball than football.  He was an all conference BB player, but there weren't many D1 offers for a 6'2 SF.

In college, he wasn't lazy, he was a good student, did what he had to football and lifting wise, but just kind of coasted.  Never was a significant minute gettor even as a RS Senior.  He stayed every summer on campus, but just lifted and hung out.  Meanwhile, his brother was insane, driven, went back to Michigan for a month each summer to train with some guys he knew that played at UM and MSU.  Lifted so much his coaches had to tell him to chill (he set combine records for a time).  Always kept getting better.  But my buddy never had to go 150%, cause his 80/90/100% was good enough and once he was in college, he was fine just being on the team and figuring his life out after.

So either you have the "im gonna do whatever it takes" even if you're killing fools at lower levels, cause you have your eye to the future.  Or you don't.  Same as being a good student.  You can get good grades without having to study in middle or HS, but then college is a bleak reality if you never learned how to study and its hard AF to learn at that point.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on November 10, 2021, 04:46:53 PM
It depends.  Very few of those exceptional recruits continue progressing without the work ethic and that starts young.  People often don't realize it.  I remember when they talked about Tebow was going to be an NFL success cause he "worked so much harder" in some silly statement overlooking the fact that even the best athletes still bust their ass from HS on.

My best friend in college was a FB player.  Freakish athlete.  All State safety, All conference WR.  Best player on every team he played except his HS team cause he played with his older brother who played a few years in the NFL.  It all came easy to him.  He did what he had to, but he didn't have some insane work ethic.  He was pretty open about saying he'd rather play basketball than football.  He was an all conference BB player, but there weren't many D1 offers for a 6'2 SF.

In college, he wasn't lazy, he was a good student, did what he had to football and lifting wise, but just kind of coasted.  Never was a significant minute gettor even as a RS Senior.  He stayed every summer on campus, but just lifted and hung out.  Meanwhile, his brother was insane, driven, went back to Michigan for a month each summer to train with some guys he knew that played at UM and MSU.  Lifted so much his coaches had to tell him to chill (he set combine records for a time).  Always kept getting better.  But my buddy never had to go 150%, cause his 80/90/100% was good enough and once he was in college, he was fine just being on the team and figuring his life out after.

So either you have the "im gonna do whatever it takes" even if you're killing fools at lower levels, cause you have your eye to the future.  Or you don't.  Same as being a good student.  You can get good grades without having to study in middle or HS, but then college is a bleak reality if you never learned how to study and its hard AF to learn at that point.

100% all of this.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on November 10, 2021, 05:37:34 PM
So either you have the "im gonna do whatever it takes" even if you're killing fools at lower levels, cause you have your eye to the future.  Or you don't.  Same as being a good student.  You can get good grades without having to study in middle or HS, but then college is a bleak reality if you never learned how to study and its hard AF to learn at that point.

I'm sure all that you describe here is true in many cases. But it would be very unfair to assume that for every high school star - or even a majority - who doesn't progress on the next level, it's a result of them not working hard enough or not wanting it enough.
For all sorts of reasons, everybody has a different athletic ceiling and they reach it on a different schedule. Some kids hit that ceiling at 17, and other kids passing them by after that isn't a reflection of their character. It's more likely a reflection of their genes and uniqueness.
We make the same mistake the other way, fwiw. When some small school kid who was lightly recruited out of high school develops into a star, we marvel over their hard work and dedication, when in reality they hit their peak a little later than their peer group, and they didn't just catch up in college, they zoomed on by,
 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 10, 2021, 10:30:52 PM
It depends.  Very few of those exceptional recruits continue progressing without the work ethic and that starts young.  People often don't realize it.  I remember when they talked about Tebow was going to be an NFL success cause he "worked so much harder" in some silly statement overlooking the fact that even the best athletes still bust their ass from HS on.

My best friend in college was a FB player.  Freakish athlete.  All State safety, All conference WR.  Best player on every team he played except his HS team cause he played with his older brother who played a few years in the NFL.  It all came easy to him.  He did what he had to, but he didn't have some insane work ethic.  He was pretty open about saying he'd rather play basketball than football.  He was an all conference BB player, but there weren't many D1 offers for a 6'2 SF.

In college, he wasn't lazy, he was a good student, did what he had to football and lifting wise, but just kind of coasted.  Never was a significant minute gettor even as a RS Senior.  He stayed every summer on campus, but just lifted and hung out.  Meanwhile, his brother was insane, driven, went back to Michigan for a month each summer to train with some guys he knew that played at UM and MSU.  Lifted so much his coaches had to tell him to chill (he set combine records for a time).  Always kept getting better.  But my buddy never had to go 150%, cause his 80/90/100% was good enough and once he was in college, he was fine just being on the team and figuring his life out after.

So either you have the "im gonna do whatever it takes" even if you're killing fools at lower levels, cause you have your eye to the future.  Or you don't.  Same as being a good student.  You can get good grades without having to study in middle or HS, but then college is a bleak reality if you never learned how to study and its hard AF to learn at that point.

Agree with most of this.

I'm sure all that you describe here is true in many cases. But it would be very unfair to assume that for every high school star - or even a majority - who doesn't progress on the next level, it's a result of them not working hard enough or not wanting it enough.
For all sorts of reasons, everybody has a different athletic ceiling and they reach it on a different schedule. Some kids hit that ceiling at 17, and other kids passing them by after that isn't a reflection of their character. It's more likely a reflection of their genes and uniqueness.
We make the same mistake the other way, fwiw. When some small school kid who was lightly recruited out of high school develops into a star, we marvel over their hard work and dedication, when in reality they hit their peak a little later than their peer group, and they didn't just catch up in college, they zoomed on by,
 

Agree with this, too.

As is the case with most things, it's more complex than just saying something happened (or didn't happen) because of this one or two things.

I stand by my belief that most athletes who go on to greatness have worked very, very hard to get there. I certainly never meant to imply that those who failed to achieve greatness didn't work hard.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 10, 2021, 10:44:56 PM
I'm not saying Joey Hauser was ever a great athlete, but on a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say he was a 6 before the ankle injury.

After the ankle injury, he looks like a 3. Just no lateral or vertical explosion whatsoever.

I agree with Dr. B's assessment of Sam Hauser. Sam has a great basketball IQ and maximizes his average athleticism (5 out of 10).  Joey doesn't have the same sense of positioning and anticipation,  adding to his defensive struggles.

For all the hype Joey had, he's certainly underachieved.  Like others have said, maybe he lacks the drive to be great.  Sam and Joey had similar freshman stats, but Sam became an all conference performer as an upperclassman.  Joey isn't close to that level.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 11, 2021, 10:09:17 AM
I'm not saying Joey Hauser was ever a great athlete, but on a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say he was a 6 before the ankle injury.

After the ankle injury, he looks like a 3. Just no lateral or vertical explosion whatsoever.

I agree with Dr. B's assessment of Sam Hauser. Sam has a great basketball IQ and maximizes his average athleticism (5 out of 10).  Joey doesn't have the same sense of positioning and anticipation,  adding to his defensive struggles.

For all the hype Joey had, he's certainly underachieved.  Like others have said, maybe he lacks the drive to be great.  Sam and Joey had similar freshman stats, but Sam became an all conference performer as an upperclassman.  Joey isn't close to that level.

Sam was also robbed of being some type of all conference as a sophomore. If we'd finished as a tournament team they all would've been given higher accolades
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 13, 2021, 09:55:55 PM
Joey had 12 and 12 against Western Michigan Friday . Slowly working his way out of Izzos dog house .
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 17, 2021, 07:18:10 PM
Joey having a tough game against Butler
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 17, 2021, 07:23:23 PM
Having paralyzing flashbacks of being there with Markus?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 17, 2021, 07:50:33 PM
Having paralyzing flashbacks of being there with Markus "the cancer"?

FIFY
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 20, 2021, 08:42:33 PM
Joey out with Injury

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/11/joey-hauser-sits-with-injury-malik-hall-steps-up-for-michigan-state-vs-emu.html
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 20, 2021, 10:58:48 PM
Joey out with Injury

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/11/joey-hauser-sits-with-injury-malik-hall-steps-up-for-michigan-state-vs-emu.html

Replacement went for 15 and 9.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 20, 2021, 11:28:48 PM
In more meaningful Hauser news ... Sam made his NBA debut tonight.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401360067

Entered with 50.9 seconds left and Boston up 109-98, missed the only shot he took (a 3-pointer), and left with 10.6 seconds left after he and the other 4 scrubs had to be replaced because OKC had cut the lead to 109-105. Celtics won 111-105.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 21, 2021, 09:19:04 AM
Replacement went for 15 and 9.
Joey=Wally Pipp?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 21, 2021, 03:59:48 PM
Joey=Wally Pipp?

Well, he was a real pip for Marquette. Put his unique stamp on the program, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: dgies9156 on November 22, 2021, 09:34:03 AM
Look, it is water under the bridge, but I don't think Joey was all wrong with his concerns about the team.

Still don't like him and the way he handled things, but we were too Markus-centric and our opponents knew it!

On to bigger and better things! Hope Sam distinguishes himself in the NBA!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 24, 2021, 12:06:01 PM
https://twitter.com/spartanhoops_dk/status/1463561636816506881?s=21
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BLM on November 24, 2021, 12:51:46 PM
https://twitter.com/spartanhoops_dk/status/1463561636816506881?s=21

Thanks, Markus.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BLM on November 24, 2021, 01:32:59 PM
I will say that it is pretty wild that Joey has 2 more assists than turnovers over the course of his career so far.  For an unselfish, team first player who does not care one iota about his own stats or shot attempts and only wants to play the game the right way, that doesn't seem great.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on November 24, 2021, 01:45:02 PM
https://twitter.com/spartanhoops_dk/status/1463561636816506881?s=21

Deleted, what did it say?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 24, 2021, 01:48:17 PM
Deleted, what did it say?

That particular fan was tired of Joey Hauser’s lack of defense (something a fire hydrant) and no assists and too many turnovers
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 24, 2021, 02:01:55 PM
It's just too bad that the infamous career-killer, Tom Izzo, has kept Joey from realizing the potential he showed under proven NBA-player-maker Steve Wojciechowski.

Seriously, Joey has some skills. He showed them several times at Marquette, especially the first half of his only season here. And he showed them a few times early on with MSU; I remember him having a huge game against Madison.

But he has serious limitations that have been chronicled repeatedly, so if he isn't at his very, very best -- which for him means hitting lots of shots -- he is a liability.

It happens. He isn't the first highly rated high school kid who fails to come within miles of living up to the hype, and he won't be the last.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on November 24, 2021, 02:08:02 PM
I have moved on from Joey.  Spartan nation has not.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on November 24, 2021, 02:12:38 PM
I have moved on from Joey.  Spartan nation has not.

He's their problem now.   ;D
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 25, 2021, 07:26:04 AM
Malik Hall the replacement for Joey (aka Wally Pip) to continued to play well and went 24-7 with 9-9 in the Spartans win against Loyola.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on November 25, 2021, 08:44:59 AM
Malik Hall the replacement for Joey (aka Wally Pip) to continued to play well and went 24-7 with 9-9 in the Spartans win against Loyola.

4-3-2-1 for Joey:

4 points, 3 turnovers, 2 shots, 1 bucket.

He did have 6 defensive rebounds in his 17 minutes.

UPDATE:

Hauser hits 2 first-half 3s to help MSU take a double-digit lead over UConn in the Atlantis title game. Doesn't score again the rest of the way and plays sparingly down the stretch as MSU rallies to victory after blowing the early lead.

Box score line: 6 points on 2-7 shooting, 6 rebounds, 1 turnover in 19 minutes.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BLM on November 25, 2021, 07:30:27 PM
Maybe Markus didn’t pass him the ball because bad things usually happen when he gets the ball.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on November 26, 2021, 12:33:22 PM
Vanilla soft serve looked extra soft against Baylor.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 26, 2021, 06:09:54 PM
Vanilla soft serve looked extra soft against Baylor.
Joey 6 -4-1 ,1-5 from the field ,in 25 minutes . MSU blown out by Baylor


Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 29, 2021, 07:06:43 PM
https://www.si.com/college/virginia/basketball/sam-hauser-leads-nba-g-league-in-threes
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on December 01, 2021, 07:04:37 PM
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2021/11/30/michigan-state-basketball-tom-izzo-louisville-preview/8795847002/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 01, 2021, 07:38:18 PM
I just turned it on.  Unless my eyes are deceiving me it appears Joseph Hauser is riding some pine. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on December 01, 2021, 07:54:11 PM
I just turned it on.  Unless my eyes are deceiving me it appears Joseph Hauser is riding some pine.

He had an early turnover and they took him out. They’re a much better team when he’s on the bench.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 01, 2021, 07:55:25 PM
He had an early turnover and they took him out. They’re a much better team when he’s on the bench.

Is it letter time??  I see Izzo put him in when they had the game in hand. 

And then subbed him when the lead dissipated.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: GB Warrior on December 01, 2021, 08:13:08 PM
Is it letter time??  I see Izzo put him in when they had the game in hand.

Joey:

(https://c.tenor.com/4l-_su_5g9gAAAAC/ron-swanson-parks-and-recreation.gif)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on December 01, 2021, 08:28:53 PM
Joey had another lousy game . Some how he got his starting spot back tonight . His previous replacement Malik Hall had another good game .
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 01, 2021, 08:58:55 PM
I can’t believe how y’all pick on Vanilla Soft Serve.

He had almost as many points as fouls, ya know!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 01, 2021, 09:16:37 PM
I can’t believe how y’all pick on Vanilla Soft Serve.

He had almost as many points as fouls, ya know!

He may be more inclined towards epistolary pursuits? 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 01, 2021, 09:28:32 PM
Incase you missed the aftermath

https://twitter.com/bfquinn/status/1466206594140573702?s=21

What a mess
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 01, 2021, 09:29:51 PM
It’s quite a pickle for Izzo.

He talked up Joey all off-season, even said they might try running the offense through him. But he now realizes that they’re actually better with Hall on the court.

But Izzo needs to keep Joey engaged because he never knows if he’ll need Joey due to injury or illness or foul trouble.

And then there’s next season … does he want Joey to stick around or will he encourage Joey to go elsewhere?

Life was simpler for Izzo when he thought Joey could actually play high-level basketball.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 01, 2021, 09:36:43 PM
It’s quite a pickle for Izzo.

He talked up Joey all off-season, even said they might try running the offense through him. But he now realizes that they’re actually better with Hall on the court.

But Izzo needs to keep Joey engaged because he never knows if he’ll need Joey due to injury or illness or foul trouble.

And then there’s next season … does he want Joey to stick around or will he encourage Joey to go elsewhere?

Life was simpler for Izzo when he thought Joey could actually play high-level basketball.

What's the word for fear of letters?  Epistaphobia?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 01, 2021, 10:18:11 PM
What's the word for fear of letters?  Epistaphobia?

That's funny.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BLM on December 01, 2021, 11:01:09 PM
Guys.  He's not writing any letters.  This is what he wanted.  A coach who had a clue.  He didn't want touches.  Didn't care how much he played or scored.  He didn't care about minutes.  He wanted wins and playing the game "the right way."  That's all that mattered to him.  He's thrilled by this.  He even told Izzo to bench him last year.  The guy is as selfless as they come.  He gets it.  He is totally fine watching from the pine.  Just wants wins and quality basketball.

The meat eating lovers told us so.  It's gospel.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on December 02, 2021, 05:24:43 AM
Joey:

(https://c.tenor.com/4l-_su_5g9gAAAAC/ron-swanson-parks-and-recreation.gif)

Incredible gif usage.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on December 02, 2021, 05:30:46 AM
Guys.  He's not writing any letters.  This is what he wanted.  A coach who had a clue.  He didn't want touches.  Didn't care how much he played or scored.  He didn't care about minutes.  He wanted wins and playing the game "the right way."  That's all that mattered to him.  He's thrilled by this.  He even told Izzo to bench him last year.  The guy is as selfless as they come.  He gets it.  He is totally fine watching from the pine.  Just wants wins and quality basketball.

The meat eating lovers told us so.  It's gospel.

(https://64-media-tumblr-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/64.media.tumblr.com/c3544e645c357f4246e19d8bb46d59d1/tumblr_ovdq8w4awO1qm6uzxo1_r1_400.gifv)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 02, 2021, 06:45:54 AM
He is not the first player that Izzo has had a public animated confrontation with.    He won't be the last.    The onus is now on young Mr. Hauser.   Izzo is not going to change for Joey.     Will Joey do what Izzo wants?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 02, 2021, 07:04:26 AM
He is not the first player that Izzo has had a public animated confrontation with.    He won't be the last.    The onus is now on young Mr. Hauser.   Izzo is not going to change for Joey.     Will Joey do what Izzo wants?

What does history tell us?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on December 02, 2021, 07:37:43 AM
What does history tell us?

#TransferPortalWatch
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on December 02, 2021, 03:48:41 PM
Oakland's going to need a "go-to guy" next year when Jamal goes to the Association.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BLM on December 02, 2021, 03:51:35 PM
Get the band back together at UWSP.  Can hire Mr. Anderson and Mr. Hauser and play the game the right way.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 02, 2021, 04:01:47 PM
Get the band back together at UWSP.  Can hire Mr. Anderson and Mr. Hauser and play the game the right way.


I gotta wonder if Trevor Anderson regrets his decision to transfer to Madison.  He starts all 20 games he plays in as a freshman at UWGB, playing nearly 30 mpg and averaging almost 10 points.

He then transfers to Madison, redshirts his first year and plays three more seasons.  Never starts.  Averages at best 14 mpg.

Now he is at Valpo, started every game they have played.  Over 30 mpg and scoring 11 per game.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on December 02, 2021, 04:25:14 PM

I gotta wonder if Trevor Anderson regrets his decision to transfer to Madison.  He starts all 20 games he plays in as a freshman at UWGB, playing nearly 30 mpg and averaging almost 10 points.

He then transfers to Madison, redshirts his first year and plays three more seasons.  Never starts.  Averages at best 14 mpg.

Now he is at Valpo, started every game they have played.  Over 30 mpg and scoring 11 per game.

I mean, if it was his absolute dream school, maybe it was worth it?  Idk.  He was never going to be a superstar or future pro.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 02, 2021, 04:59:02 PM

I gotta wonder if Trevor Anderson regrets his decision to transfer to Madison.  He starts all 20 games he plays in as a freshman at UWGB, playing nearly 30 mpg and averaging almost 10 points.

He then transfers to Madison, redshirts his first year and plays three more seasons.  Never starts.  Averages at best 14 mpg.

Now he is at Valpo, started every game they have played.  Over 30 mpg and scoring 11 per game.

"The Wisconsinn Way"
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 02, 2021, 09:44:28 PM

I gotta wonder if Trevor Anderson regrets his decision to transfer to Madison.  He starts all 20 games he plays in as a freshman at UWGB, playing nearly 30 mpg and averaging almost 10 points.

He then transfers to Madison, redshirts his first year and plays three more seasons.  Never starts.  Averages at best 14 mpg.

Now he is at Valpo, started every game they have played.  Over 30 mpg and scoring 11 per game.

Yeah, but he was great buddies with the Hausers, so we got all those cool rumors for weeks that they were going to Madison as a dynamic duo that would stick it to Marquette.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 04, 2021, 05:47:20 PM
Joey has a bucket tonight and 5pts.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 04, 2021, 09:11:48 PM
Joey has a bucket tonight and 5pts.

Holy Toledo!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 09, 2021, 02:50:28 PM
10 and 8 against Minnesota.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on December 09, 2021, 03:11:46 PM
I noticed Izzo subbing him out on the defensive end in crunch time.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 09, 2021, 03:19:44 PM
Izzo is wise.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on December 09, 2021, 03:22:48 PM
I noticed Izzo subbing him out on the defensive end in crunch time.

The coaching Joey was hoping for.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 09, 2021, 03:24:50 PM
Joey spent some time at the 5.  Minnesota doesn't have a lot of size
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 09, 2021, 03:38:36 PM
The coaching Joey was hoping for.

He’s pretty unselfish
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: rocket ALM surgeon on December 09, 2021, 05:19:21 PM
I noticed Izzo subbing him out on the defensive end in crunch time.

 cuz no one would pass him the ball while on defense
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 09, 2021, 06:15:01 PM
I noticed Izzo subbing him out on the defensive end in crunch time.

All kidding aside (and it's difficult not to, but) this is the best way to allocate minutes to him whenever possible. He DOES have offensive skills, when he isn't committing turnovers.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 10, 2021, 08:31:08 AM
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/12/michigan-state-sees-progress-in-joey-hauser-after-slow-start.html
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on December 10, 2021, 08:00:31 PM
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/12/michigan-state-sees-progress-in-joey-hauser-after-slow-start.html
Izzo hinted they may be using him at the five some more
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 11, 2021, 02:50:37 PM
Sparty is playing good ball today.  Sharing the ball extremely well.   Found their transition game.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 11, 2021, 03:40:46 PM
Sparty is playing good ball today.  Sharing the ball extremely well.   Found their transition game.

Led to a HUGE game for Vanilla Soft Serve: 7 whole points, 3 whole rebounds!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 11, 2021, 03:47:02 PM
I realize it was only Penn State, but he was moving the ball and staying with his man.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 11, 2021, 04:59:37 PM
I realize it was only Penn State, but he was moving the ball and staying with his man.

Didn't see the game, so I'll take your word for it. I guess that's proving the old saying "The box score doesn't tell the whole story." Joey for Sparty SOTG!
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 11, 2021, 05:00:39 PM
I didn't say that.  He played a decent game.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on December 13, 2021, 11:23:46 PM
Sam in the NBA scoring column. Got a 3 against the Bucks.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 14, 2021, 07:27:23 PM
Sam in the NBA scoring column. Got a 3 against the Bucks.

First of many. Elite shooters find jobs.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 17, 2021, 08:24:44 PM
Sam on Celtics’ Covid protocol list.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on December 17, 2021, 10:08:22 PM
First of many. Elite shooters find jobs.
Stephen Curry record in danger?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 17, 2021, 10:56:48 PM
Stephen Curry record in danger?

Well, you got me there.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on December 18, 2021, 06:05:18 AM
Sam on Celtics’ Covid protocol list.
Great way to stay on the NBA roster and not be sent down to the G league
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on December 18, 2021, 12:53:16 PM
Well, you got me there.

I wasn’t busting on your observation, btw. I agree with you. Just having some fun about a single 3 point make.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 18, 2021, 11:27:36 PM
I wasn’t busting on your observation, btw. I agree with you. Just having some fun about a single 3 point make.

Ah ... I missed it. Thanks for the explainer.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on December 21, 2021, 06:37:24 PM
Big match up tonight. Jamal versus Joey.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 21, 2021, 07:03:40 PM
Big match up tonight. Jamal versus Joey.

If my eyes aren't deceiving me I see that Jamal is 4-5 with 10 pts so far
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: cheebs09 on December 21, 2021, 07:42:10 PM
If my eyes aren't deceiving me I see that Jamal is 4-5 with 10 pts so far

Joey must be guarding him.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Ardmore Mug on December 21, 2021, 11:02:49 PM
Joey played 20 min and 5 pts   Jamal played 40 min and 20 pts     8-)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on December 22, 2021, 07:20:44 AM
Jamal had more rebounds and less turnovers and fouls too.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 22, 2021, 08:16:08 AM
5 pts ... 5 reb ... 4 asst ... 3 fouls ... 2 turnovers ... 1 steal.

Joey has mastered the sextuple-single.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BrewCity83 on December 22, 2021, 11:23:10 AM
Joey must be guarding him.

Joey was "guarding" Jamal here:

https://twitter.com/OaklandMBB/status/1473467598272712707?s=20
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 22, 2021, 11:54:54 AM
Joey was "guarding" Jamal here:

https://twitter.com/OaklandMBB/status/1473467598272712707?s=20



At least he didn’t get a taste of Jamal’s nutsack.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 22, 2021, 11:56:36 AM
Joey was "guarding" Jamal here:

https://twitter.com/OaklandMBB/status/1473467598272712707?s=20

Think Izzo-Dukiet might have to write a letter requesting Joey transfer
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on December 22, 2021, 12:14:04 PM
Joey was "guarding" Jamal here:

https://twitter.com/OaklandMBB/status/1473467598272712707?s=20

That was Markus' fault.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on December 22, 2021, 12:29:11 PM

At least he didn’t get a taste of Jamal’s nutsack.

At least Joey can say he got to sniff the NBA.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 22, 2021, 12:38:15 PM
Joey was "guarding" Jamal here:

https://twitter.com/OaklandMBB/status/1473467598272712707?s=20

I could watch that 1,000 times.


At least he didn’t get a taste of Jamal’s nutsack.

He'd have had to actually stay in front of Jamal for that to have happened.

Think Izzo-Dukiet might have to write a letter requesting Joey transfer

Too funny, Unk.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: TAMU Eagle on December 22, 2021, 01:07:54 PM
At least Joey can say he got to sniff the NBA.

Well done sir. Well done.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 22, 2021, 01:19:34 PM
At least Joey can say he got to sniff the NBA.

Fan-tas-tic
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 22, 2021, 02:06:49 PM
https://www.freep.com/picture-gallery/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2021/12/22/michigan-state-basketball-oakland-photos-little-caesars-arena/8990355002/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Jockey on December 22, 2021, 02:14:14 PM
There was no doubt in Jamal’s mind about what he was gonna do.

I’d guess he did the exact same thing dozens of times in practice when they were both here.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 25, 2021, 09:36:12 AM
With the Celtics decimated by Covid, it would have been a great opportunity for Sam to get some real playing time. Unfortunately, he was one of the players who had to enter the protocol. I thought he might be available for today's game based on the timing of when he went on the list, but I didn't see his name mentioned among the handful of Celtics who might be coming off the list to be eligible for today.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on December 25, 2021, 03:10:54 PM
With the Celtics decimated by Covid, it would have been a great opportunity for Sam to get some real playing time. Unfortunately, he was one of the players who had to enter the protocol. I thought he might be available for today's game based on the timing of when he went on the list, but I didn't see his name mentioned among the handful of Celtics who might be coming off the list to be eligible for today.

He’s unvaccinated, so he doesn’t get off the list early, right?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on December 25, 2021, 03:24:47 PM
But he wrote a very strongly worded letter, doesn’t that get him off early?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BLM on December 25, 2021, 04:07:01 PM
He’s unvaccinated, so he doesn’t get off the list early, right?

He’s not?  Lol. You’d think someone who is looking to stick on an NBA roster would do anything possible to get his opportunity. With guy’s missing time, getting your vaccination is one way to ensure you get extra opportunities.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 25, 2021, 04:14:53 PM
He’s unvaccinated, so he doesn’t get off the list early, right?

Source?

I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't know and I hadn't seen that mentioned.

If he really isn't vaccinated ... wow. That's his "personal choice," yes -- his personal choice to hurt his career before it ever gets started.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 25, 2021, 04:51:06 PM
He’s not?  Lol. You’d think someone who is looking to stick on an NBA roster would do anything possible to get his opportunity. With guy’s missing time, getting your vaccination is one way to ensure you get extra opportunities.

He’s a born loser.  Not surprised he’s not vaccinated.  He’s a quitter
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on December 25, 2021, 07:58:47 PM
Source?

I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't know and I hadn't seen that mentioned.

If he really isn't vaccinated ... wow. That's his "personal choice," yes -- his personal choice to hurt his career before it ever gets started.

He had some hot vaccine takes that were deleted.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 25, 2021, 08:12:41 PM
He had some hot vaccine takes that were deleted.

^
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MUnewbie on December 25, 2021, 08:14:26 PM
He’s not?  Lol. You’d think someone who is looking to stick on an NBA roster would do anything possible to get his opportunity. With guy’s missing time, getting your vaccination is one way to ensure you get extra opportunities.
You guys are losers. Squirting your pants over who is and isn’t vaccinated. It’s not anyone’s business. Get a life already and move on, or don’t. Life is moving on without you guys.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BLM on December 25, 2021, 08:15:51 PM
You guys are losers. Squirting your pants over who is and isn’t vaccinated. It’s not anyone’s business. Get a life already and move on, or don’t. Life is moving on without you guys.

Well, he had a chance to get a lot of meaningful minutes. For a rookie looking to stay in the NBA, that’s a pretty big deal. But he couldn’t get them because he apparently didn’t get vaccinated. Oops! Life is moving on without him because of his dumb choices.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MUnewbie on December 25, 2021, 08:23:49 PM
Well, he had a chance to get a lot of meaningful minutes. For a rookie looking to stay in the NBA, that’s a pretty big deal. But he couldn’t get them because he apparently didn’t get vaccinated. Oops! Life is moving on without him because of his dumb choices.
It’s your opinion that he makes dumb choices. I am sure he cares an awful lot about your opinion about his choices. I’m sure he doesn’t care about your choices.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on December 25, 2021, 08:23:58 PM
Well, he had a chance to get a lot of meaningful minutes. For a rookie looking to stay in the NBA, that’s a pretty big deal. But he couldn’t get them because he apparently didn’t get vaccinated. Oops! Life is moving on without him because of his dumb choices.

I’m sure playing in the Fiserv today would’ve been a big deal for Sammy.

It’s not my business, but it’s certainly bad business by The Hausers.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BLM on December 25, 2021, 08:32:02 PM
I’m sure playing in the Fiserv today would’ve been a big deal for Sammy.

It’s not my business, but it’s certainly bad business by The Hausers.

Good call. Plus, when you throw it up on the internet, you make it everyone’s business. Just like it’s his choice not to get the vaccine, it was his choice to let everyone know where he stands.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 25, 2021, 09:45:44 PM
He had some hot vaccine takes that were deleted.

Thanks for the reply.

Sad to see another victim of Covid-related disinformation.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 25, 2021, 11:05:03 PM
You guys are losers. Squirting your pants over who is and isn’t vaccinated. It’s not anyone’s business. Get a life already and move on, or don’t. Life is moving on without you guys.


Nah, he made it everyone's business when he offered his stupid baby brained take on the matter.

But we all knew Sam was a coward the day he left over his little brother's temper tantrum... Which is why he deleted his tweets.

He played the game of social media, and lost.  He should own his mistakes, and you shouldn't be defending a grown man's stupidity.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: GOO on December 26, 2021, 06:48:12 AM
You guys are losers. Squirting your pants over who is and isn’t vaccinated. It’s not anyone’s business. Get a life already and move on, or don’t. Life is moving on without you guys.
Suppose your right. Life is moving on. Just a slightly higher percentage of the vaxed get to move on, especially without side effects. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 26, 2021, 08:14:06 AM
It’s your opinion that he makes dumb choices. I am sure he cares an awful lot about your opinion about his choices. I’m sure he doesn’t care about your choices.

He made a dumb choice and let his teammates down. But he’s an expert in that field
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 26, 2021, 08:30:02 AM
It’s your opinion that he makes dumb choices. I am sure he cares an awful lot about your opinion about his choices. I’m sure he doesn’t care about your choices.

Lol. You really don’t understand what message boards are about so you. Sorry your worldview gets challenged here.

It was clearly a dumb choice. He had the opportunity to play meaningful minutes in a profession that he has dedicated his life to, but one in which he is a marginal talent. But he chose to believe misinformation instead.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 26, 2021, 10:07:26 AM
Lol. You really don’t understand what message boards are about so you. Sorry your worldview gets challenged here.

It was clearly a dumb choice. He had the opportunity to play meaningful minutes in a profession that he has dedicated his life to, but one in which he is a marginal talent. But he chose to believe misinformation instead.

This. He let down his teammates, his organization, his profession and, mostly, himself.

That's not "opinion," it's fact.

How anybody could take any other "side" to this is comical.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: TSmith34 on December 26, 2021, 10:09:24 AM
It’s your opinion that he makes dumb choices. I am sure he cares an awful lot about your opinion about his choices. I’m sure he doesn’t care about your choices.
No, it's data, and science. If both you and Sam are too dumb to understand that, oh well.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 26, 2021, 10:26:49 AM
seriously, you all are going to chase after not-n00b's bait everytime?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on December 27, 2021, 09:49:51 PM
Sam played double digit minutes tonight.  So apparently his unvaxxed demise was exaggerated
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2021, 10:16:20 PM
Sam played double digit minutes tonight.  So apparently his unvaxxed demise was exaggerated

Didn’t contribute much in a loss to a wolves team that was missing just about every player of note.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2021, 10:27:00 PM
Didn’t contribute much in a loss to a wolves team that was missing just about every player of note.

Congrats to Sam.  First NBA bucket. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2021, 10:33:42 PM
Congrats to Sam.  First NBA bucket.

No it wasn’t
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 28, 2021, 12:01:36 AM
No it wasn’t

Oh...has he been lighting it up?  I thought it was his first NBA game.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: TAMU Eagle on December 28, 2021, 06:47:35 AM
Oh...has he been lighting it up?  I thought it was his first NBA game.

It was his 4th. First game with more than 5 minutes though.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 28, 2021, 08:08:18 AM
It was his 4th. First game with more than 5 minutes though.

He might have had 5 more games to establish himself, including the Xmas Day showcase, had he not bought into the lies being peddled by the Vaccine Disinformation Society.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 28, 2021, 12:36:03 PM
Oh...has he been lighting it up?  I thought it was his first NBA game.

No and to be fair I think it was like only his 2nd basket of his career. But he had played and scored prior to it.

If he stays clean of the virus he should keep getting a few shots
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on December 28, 2021, 06:53:18 PM
No and to be fair I think it was like only his 2nd basket of his career. But he had played and scored prior to it.

If he stays clean of the virus he should keep getting a few shots

If he would have gotten two, he could have had more! *rim shot*
Thanks, I’ll be here all week. Tip your waiters.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 29, 2021, 03:11:36 PM
Joey with his High Point of the season so far.   Currently playing on the Big 10 network.   
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 29, 2021, 06:09:23 PM
When you’re mighty High Point you can’t stop Vanilla Soft Serve, you can only hope to contain him.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 29, 2021, 11:01:00 PM
17 and 11. +17 (2nd best in the team). His +/- has been amongst the best on the team. 5/8 from the floor.

But sure, keep obsessing over and hating on a kid who went where he wanted to be and should have been all along after sacrificing to please others, and starts for on top ten team.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 29, 2021, 11:21:54 PM
17 and 11. +17 (2nd best in the team). His +/- has been amongst the best on the team. 5/8 from the floor.

But sure, keep obsessing over and hating on a kid who went where he wanted to be and should have been all along after sacrificing to please others, and starts for on top ten team.

I mean he entered the game shooting like 35% from the floor and under 30% from 3

You act like it’s completely misguided.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on December 30, 2021, 01:20:30 AM
Sam played double digit minutes tonight.  So apparently his unvaxxed demise was exaggerated

Never stops the Mope Squad from full condemnation.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BLM on December 30, 2021, 05:31:53 AM
Never stops the Mope Squad from full condemnation.

As he should be. There’s no reason not to get vaccination. Seems like the Mope Squad would be the people the condemnation is being thrown at.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 30, 2021, 05:51:34 AM
I mean he entered the game shooting like 35% from the floor and under 30% from 3

You act like it’s completely misguided.

You don’t think his real shooting % of 46% is any good?!?  Or that Izzo has to yank him off the court when they need stops on defense? 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 30, 2021, 06:20:33 AM
As he should be. There’s no reason not to get vaccination. Seems like the Mope Squad would be the people the condemnation is being thrown at.



Ever hear of myocarditis? Not long ago menopausal women were prescribed estrogen replacement therapy. Later, it was found many of these women were diagnosed with cancer. Cause and effect was determined. What are the longterm effects of the vaccination? The correct answer is...we don't know, aina?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 30, 2021, 06:22:14 AM
Sam played double digit minutes tonight.  So apparently his unvaxxed demise was exaggerated

I, for one, didn't say he faced a "demise" or that he ruined his career. What I said was that by falling prey to vaccine disinformation, Sam missed an opportunity to play double-digit minutes in several games.

First, the Celtics really needed him because they were so shorthanded, so he let down his team. Second, players in his situation are showcasing themselves every minute they are on the court -- not only for their current team but for every team in the league -- so he let down himself.

I've always appreciated Sam's work ethic, basketball IQ and pure shooting stroke.

It's OK to say that his decision hurt his team and potentially hurt his career without saying he's garbage.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 30, 2021, 06:27:35 AM


Ever hear of myocarditis? What are the longterm effects of the vaccination? The correct answer is...we don't know, aina?

Heard of myocarditis.  It is also a potential long time effect of getting covid.

Longterm effects aren't a thing.  What do you expect to happen, a second brain cell to grow in your empty brain cavity and keep the other company?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on December 30, 2021, 07:02:56 AM
I, for one, didn't say he faced a "demise" or that he ruined his career. What I said was that by falling prey to vaccine disinformation, Sam missed an opportunity to play double-digit minutes in several games.

First, the Celtics really needed him because they were so shorthanded, so he let down his team. Second, players in his situation are showcasing themselves every minute they are on the court -- not only for their current team but for every team in the league -- so he let down himself.

I've always appreciated Sam's work ethic, basketball IQ and pure shooting stroke.

It's OK to say that his decision hurt his team and potentially hurt his career without saying he's garbage.
Not defending the quitter here, but:
1. Do we know he's not vaccinated?
2. How many of the NBA players in the Covid protocol are vaccinated?

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 30, 2021, 07:06:12 AM
It was good to see Joey hit some shots.  The crowd gave him a nice ovation at the end.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 30, 2021, 07:11:12 AM
Not defending the quitter here, but:
1. Do we know he's not vaccinated?
2. How many of the NBA players in the Covid protocol are vaccinated?

1. His vaccination status was discussed earlier in the thread. Nobody "knows" for certain, but the combination of now-deleted social-media posts in which he expressed anti-vax sentiments and the length of his required quarantine led to the reasonable conclusion that he's unvaccinated.

2. That information might or might not be out there for those who want to research it.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on December 30, 2021, 07:42:45 AM
1. His vaccination status was discussed earlier in the thread. Nobody "knows" for certain, but the combination of now-deleted social-media posts in which he expressed anti-vax sentiments and the length of his required quarantine led to the reasonable conclusion that he's unvaccinated.

2. That information might or might not be out there for those who want to research it.
He was in the NBA protocol for 10 days, which was the standard time for vaccinated  players who had Covid. According to a press release 97% of the NBA players were vaccinated. That would leave about 15 or so players that were unvaccinated. Odds are, he is.

Now I need to shower after defending the quitter.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 30, 2021, 07:51:49 AM
Iz he allowed ta play in NY, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 30, 2021, 08:30:49 AM
Iz he allowed ta play in NY, hey?

Visiting unvaccinated players are allowed to play in NY.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 30, 2021, 08:38:39 AM
See, that's just more hypocrisy, then, with this fluster and the rules of behavior, aina?

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 30, 2021, 08:46:21 AM
See, that's just more hypocrisy, then, with this fluster and the rules of behavior, aina?


I would be fine if it were limited to all players.  But my guess is the city felt that it was easier to deal with New York based teams that play 40+ games at home.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 30, 2021, 08:53:23 AM
You're correct. But again, this all speaks to the illogical and nonsensical rules that people concoct in their heads and then convince others that it is undeniable truth. This entire mess for the past 2 years has shown how sheepish and weak most people really are, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 30, 2021, 09:01:03 AM
This entire mess for the past 2 years has shown how sheepish and weak most people really are, hey?

Yep.  Near the top of that list are graduates of Marquette Dental School.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on December 30, 2021, 09:05:26 AM
You're correct. But again, this all speaks to the illogical and nonsensical rules that people concoct in their heads and then convince others that it is undeniable truth. This entire mess for the past 2 years has shown how sheepish and weak most people really are, hey?

Yeah, and a lot of them are dead and buried by their loved ones.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on December 30, 2021, 09:08:25 AM
This entire mess for the past 2 years has shown how sheepish and weak selfish most people really are, hey?

FIFY
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on December 30, 2021, 11:05:57 AM
He was in the NBA protocol for 10 days, which was the standard time for vaccinated  players who had Covid. According to a press release 97% of the NBA players were vaccinated. That would leave about 15 or so players that were unvaccinated. Odds are, he is.

Now I need to shower after defending the quitter.

Fair. Some started by saying "if it's true" and then it became accepted truth after his deleted posts were revealed. I'll definitely go back to "if it's true" if I talk about that issue again at all regarding Sam. I hope we don't have to talk about it again, though.

As with all former Marquette guys now in the NBA, I wish him success ... despite him quitting on our program.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: rocket ALM surgeon on December 30, 2021, 12:47:50 PM

I would be fine if it were limited to all players.  But my guess is the city felt that it was easier to deal with New York based teams that play 40+ games at home.

 it would be easier?  well yeah, but what about all those "super spreaders' invading the city?  why can't kyrie play just a few games for the nets then?  he's probably coming in from jersey, just like a visiting player eyn'a?

    i'd call new york on their vaccination discrimination.  run around on the floor breathing and spitting all over everyone, then go to the bench to wear a mask, sometimes, sometimes not covering the nose.  then pull it off to scream out instructions or a cheer.  hug, shake hands, fist bump...but don't get too close to post game interview people, then walk off floor arm in arm. 

 you're just not as smart as all those voices in your head tell you flooffer-
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 30, 2021, 01:00:41 PM
it would be easier?  well yeah, but what about all those "super spreaders' invading the city?  why can't kyrie play just a few games for the nets then?  he's probably coming in from jersey, just like a visiting player eyn'a?

    i'd call new york on their vaccination discrimination.  run around on the floor breathing and spitting all over everyone, then go to the bench to wear a mask, sometimes, sometimes not covering the nose.  then pull it off to scream out instructions or a cheer.  hug, shake hands, fist bump...but don't get too close to post game interview people, then walk off floor arm in arm. 

 you're just not as smart as all those voices in your head tell you flooffer-

9 of 10
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 30, 2021, 01:00:46 PM
it would be easier?  well yeah, but what about all those "super spreaders' invading the city?  why can't kyrie play just a few games for the nets then?  he's probably coming in from jersey, just like a visiting player eyn'a?

    i'd call new york on their vaccination discrimination.  run around on the floor breathing and spitting all over everyone, then go to the bench to wear a mask, sometimes, sometimes not covering the nose.  then pull it off to scream out instructions or a cheer.  hug, shake hands, fist bump...but don't get too close to post game interview people, then walk off floor arm in arm. 

 you're just not as smart as all those voices in your head tell you flooffer-


You are exceedingly strange.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on December 30, 2021, 01:13:50 PM
Fair. Some started by saying "if it's true" and then it became accepted truth after his deleted posts were revealed. I'll definitely go back to "if it's true" if I talk about that issue again at all regarding Sam. I hope we don't have to talk about it again, though.

Or he just supported and defended a pro athlete he unfailing liked, as with many in WI when it comes to Rodgers. 

I also personally know double digit people who don’t love the idea of the vaccine or mandates or whatnot…but are fully vaxxed themselves for any number of reasons.  It’s not always black and white
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on December 30, 2021, 01:37:25 PM
Or he just supported and defended a pro athlete he unfailing liked, as with many in WI when it comes to Rodgers. 

I also personally know double digit people who don’t love the idea of the vaccine or mandates or whatnot…but are fully vaxxed themselves for any number of reasons.  It’s not always black and white

When your day consists of watching CNN and posting hot takes and NYT articles on Scoop, your world view is pretty myopic.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 03, 2022, 11:41:52 AM
10 points, 9 boards, 4/4 from the line, and a +21 in 28 minutes for Joey in MSU's comeback road victory yesterday. Highest +/- on the team once again.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on January 03, 2022, 11:51:26 AM
10 points, 9 boards, 4/4 from the line, and a +21 in 28 minutes for Joey in MSU's comeback road victory yesterday. Highest +/- on the team once again.
His 2-5 shooting raised his FG% to 37.5%. Nothing but a role player.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on January 03, 2022, 11:52:02 AM
10 points, 9 boards, 4/4 from the line, and a +21 in 28 minutes for Joey in MSU's comeback road victory yesterday. Highest +/- on the team once again.

Looks like he had a good game, and MSU needed it from him.

Meanwhile, Sam got 6 minutes (0-1 with 1 assist) in Boston's 2OT win over Orlando.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 03, 2022, 12:23:33 PM
His 2-5 shooting raised his FG% to 37.5%. Nothing but a role player.

Izzo-Dukiet has wisely reduced him to a role player.  He’s gotten more minutes here recently because of covid running through the Spartans.  His minutes, usage and shots are down versus last year. 

That’s a good spot for him.  He can still be a scorer in spots and solid rebounder for Michigan State and limit his defensive liabilities
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on January 06, 2022, 08:51:01 AM
Joey with 3 points 8 rebounds and 5 assists in Spartans win over the Huskers
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on January 06, 2022, 09:48:09 AM
Joey with 3 points 8 rebounds and 5 assists in Spartans win over the Huskers

Another triple-single!

Actually sounds like another effective game, even if he didn't score. This last stretch looks like he's finding his little niche with the team.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on January 06, 2022, 10:05:46 AM
Another triple-single!

Actually sounds like another effective game, even if he didn't score. This last stretch looks like he's finding his little niche with the team.
Similar to the role that Draymond Green Juan Toscano Anderson plays for the Warriors. Tied for 8th in scoring this game, getting the easy rebounds. 3 Turnovers in 21 minutes.

And I agree with KenPom that plus minus for college basketball is pretty worthless.
https://kenpom.com/blog/a-treatise-on-plusminus/ (https://kenpom.com/blog/a-treatise-on-plusminus/)

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 06, 2022, 11:25:56 AM
Another triple-single!

Actually sounds like another effective game, even if he didn't score. This last stretch looks like he's finding his little niche with the team.

Yes, another game that for all of Wojos faults proves Wojo used Joey correctly.

Joey may finally be realizing this 3 years later.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on January 06, 2022, 11:50:37 AM
The myth that Joey was gonna be a college star have been exposed -- not by Wojo or Izzo, but by Joey himself.

As I said, it looks like he's settled into his role: Hit the occasional 3, grab a few defensive boards, make a decent pass (and a couple not-so-decent passes), cheer from the bench (or pout, if that's still his way) when MSU needs defensive stops. There are worse ways to earn a scholly. Izzo seems to have a good fix on how and when to deploy the kid.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: lawdog77 on January 06, 2022, 11:58:00 AM
The myth that Joey was gonna be a college star have been exposed -- not by Wojo or Izzo, but by Joey himself.

As I said, it looks like he's settled into his role: Hit the occasional 3, grab a few defensive boards, make a decent pass (and a couple not-so-decent passes), cheer from the bench (or pout, if that's still his way) when MSU needs defensive stops. There are worse ways to earn a scholly. Izzo seems to have a good fix on how and when to deploy the kid.
(https://i.gifer.com/origin/4b/4b0173565b112f9d0b5daf090f1cb50d_w200.webp)
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on January 12, 2022, 08:08:07 PM
Joey Hauser game winner, lololol
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 12, 2022, 08:08:33 PM
Joey was a traffic cone on D

But he caught the awesome dump of pass and got the winner
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on January 12, 2022, 08:48:36 PM
Nice game winner for Joey.

Roy Williams enjoying retirement from UNC, He and his wife Wanda were in the crowd tonight in East Lansing.

https://www.wxyz.com/sports/joey-hauser-hits-buzzer-beater-and-michigan-state-tops-minnesota
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on January 12, 2022, 09:29:02 PM
Joey Hauser game winner, lololol

He did a good job making himself available for the pass.

He's played his role a lot better the last month or so.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on January 12, 2022, 10:46:16 PM
Joey was a traffic cone on D

But he caught the awesome dump of pass and got the winner

He’s never gonna be Tony Allen.  But he played well down the stretch. Had a really nice wrap around pocket pass for a big bucket late
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on January 13, 2022, 07:59:41 AM
He’s never gonna be Tony Allen.  But he played well down the stretch. Had a really nice wrap around pocket pass for a big bucket late

I wasn't being the least bit sarcastic with my previous comment. Joey has played his role well the last month or so: screen-setter, court-spreader, defensive rebounder and occasional scorer.

He gets 25% fewer shots per game now than he did when The Cancer wouldn't give him the ball at MU, but to his credit he realized that he wasn't gonna succeed with a letter-writing campaign to Izzo so he bought into what Izzo wanted him to be.

I'm serious about "to his credit." It's not easy for an athlete, especially a heralded one, to totally eat his ego as Joey's has had to do at MSU. He came out of high school as the next great thing -- "Wait till you see this guy! He's even better than Sam!" And when he went to Michigan State it was, "Markus and Wojo failed him ... just wait till Izzo unlocks his potential!"

The first month or more of this season, Izzo couldn't have him on the court down the stretch in close games. Joey was too bad on defense and made too many boneheaded plays on offense. But the last few weeks, Izzo has been playing Joey down the stretch because he can help spread the court, he's a big body, he makes free throws and he makes himself available for passes on the block. Izzo will still do the defensive sub for him, which is only smart, but then he'll get Joey back in on offense.

Joey's had quite the basketball career so far. He has gone from highly recruited prep superstar ... to offensive weapon at Marquette ... to useless, pouty, turnover machine at Marquette ... to redshirt in street clothes who was gonna show everybody what Wojo threw away ... to ego-shattered whipping boy who was getting mocked by Michigan State fans ... to useful role player.

I'll never "like" him because of his outsized role in helping ruin a potentially outstanding season, but I could see him being a 15-and-8 kind of player next season if he keeps making progress.

He's got some offensive talent, obviously, he always has. We'll see what it amounts to.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 13, 2022, 08:03:56 AM
A very nice moment for Joey.   Good for him.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2022/01/13/michigan-state-basketball-joey-hauser-minnesota/9198050002/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on January 13, 2022, 03:59:39 PM
I wasn't being the least bit sarcastic with my previous comment. Joey has played his role well the last month or so: screen-setter, court-spreader, defensive rebounder and occasional scorer.

He gets 25% fewer shots per game now than he did when The Cancer wouldn't give him the ball at MU, but to his credit he realized that he wasn't gonna succeed with a letter-writing campaign to Izzo so he bought into what Izzo wanted him to be.

I'm serious about "to his credit." It's not easy for an athlete, especially a heralded one, to totally eat his ego as Joey's has had to do at MSU. He came out of high school as the next great thing -- "Wait till you see this guy! He's even better than Sam!" And when he went to Michigan State it was, "Markus and Wojo failed him ... just wait till Izzo unlocks his potential!"

The first month or more of this season, Izzo couldn't have him on the court down the stretch in close games. Joey was too bad on defense and made too many boneheaded plays on offense. But the last few weeks, Izzo has been playing Joey down the stretch because he can help spread the court, he's a big body, he makes free throws and he makes himself available for passes on the block. Izzo will still do the defensive sub for him, which is only smart, but then he'll get Joey back in on offense.

Joey's had quite the basketball career so far. He has gone from highly recruited prep superstar ... to offensive weapon at Marquette ... to useless, pouty, turnover machine at Marquette ... to redshirt in street clothes who was gonna show everybody what Wojo threw away ... to ego-shattered whipping boy who was getting mocked by Michigan State fans ... to useful role player.

I'll never "like" him because of his outsized role in helping ruin a potentially outstanding season, but I could see him being a 15-and-8 kind of player next season if he keeps making progress.

He's got some offensive talent, obviously, he always has. We'll see what it amounts to.

Well put. Joey has settled into his role over the last several weeks and the Spartans are winning.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 15, 2022, 01:12:38 PM
If you have Twitter, search Joey Hauser today as Northwestern beats Michigan State
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 15, 2022, 01:15:06 PM
C'mon, he had a game winner earlier this week.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 15, 2022, 01:17:29 PM
C'mon, he had a game winner earlier this week.

Yeah, they’ve forgotten that quickly, lol
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 15, 2022, 01:57:42 PM
C'mon, he had a game winner earlier this week.

A game winner that I coulda made.

I guess congrats he doesnt have Kurs hands and caught the beautiful dime
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on January 15, 2022, 02:47:21 PM
A game winner that I coulda made.

I guess congrats he doesnt have Kurs hands and caught the beautiful dime

His 3 pts weren't enough vs Northwestern.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on January 15, 2022, 03:20:19 PM
Joey made a pass to a teammate for the potential game time basket at the end of the game, the teammate got fouled and missed the free throws . Game over. Bad home loss for The Spartans.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2022/01/15/michigan-state-basketball-game-score-northwestern-recap/6539836001/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on January 15, 2022, 05:55:56 PM
His 3 pts weren't enough vs Northwestern.

Be nice. Also had 1 whole rebound in 21 minutes.

To go with 2 turnovers and 4 fouls.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on January 15, 2022, 09:50:01 PM
Be nice. Also had 1 whole rebound in 21 minutes.

To go with 2 turnovers and 4 fouls.
Oh sure, ignore the 2 assists an$ 2 blocks. Stat sheet stuffer!  ;D
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on January 15, 2022, 10:01:19 PM
Oh sure, ignore the 2 assists an$ 2 blocks. Stat sheet stuffer!  ;D

He is the master of the septuple-single.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on January 18, 2022, 06:58:51 AM
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/celtics-sam-hauser-excellent-during-g-league-game/
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 18, 2022, 07:55:15 AM
Always taught da dude wood play inn da Association, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on January 18, 2022, 08:12:04 AM
Always taught da dude wood play inn da Association's official minor league system, hey?

FIFY
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: dgies9156 on January 18, 2022, 09:10:43 AM
Brother MU hit the nail right on the head. Hot shot out of high school, disruptor of the Wojo legend at Marquette and now role player at Michigan State University.

If I were Joey (and I'm clearly not), I'd be studying hard in those classes I'm taking at Michigan State. Why? To prepare for life without basketball. It's coming a lot sooner than Joey or his cheerleaders think.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: NolongerWarriors on January 18, 2022, 09:22:56 AM
I love reading all the hate and vitriol towards Joey Hauser coming from Scoopers who fancy themselves good people, and, in reality, are anything but.

Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Pakuni on January 18, 2022, 09:24:42 AM
Brother MU hit the nail right on the head. Hot shot out of high school, disruptor of the Wojo legend at Marquette and now role player at Michigan State University.

If I were Joey (and I'm clearly not), I'd be studying hard in those classes I'm taking at Michigan State. Why? To prepare for life without basketball. It's coming a lot sooner than Joey or his cheerleaders think.

Joey will get paid to play basketball for a decade or more, barring injury. It just might not be on this continent.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on January 18, 2022, 09:28:49 AM
FIFY

He has played in the Association. And I expect him to play in the Association again. He has a very in-demand skill that most do not have.

Joey will get paid to play basketball for a decade or more, barring injury. It just might not be on this continent.

I agree with that. I mean, Dwight Burke made a good buck for a decade. Joey has some skill.

I love reading all the hate and vitriol towards Joey Hauser coming from Scoopers who fancy themselves good people, and, in reality, are anything but.

That's funny coming from a guy who spews nothing but hate toward our alma mater. Joey Hauser's the one you "love"? Surprised, given that he spurned your beloved Madison team not once but twice.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 18, 2022, 09:40:48 AM
I love reading all the hate and vitriol towards Joey Hauser coming from Scoopers who fancy themselves good people, and, in reality, are anything but.

You’ll get over it
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on January 18, 2022, 10:44:14 AM
I love reading all the hate and vitriol towards Joey Hauser coming from Scoopers who fancy themselves good people, and, in reality, are anything but.



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Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: TSmith34 on January 18, 2022, 12:45:17 PM
I love reading all the hate and vitriol towards Joey Hauser coming from Scoopers who fancy themselves good people, and, in reality, are anything but.
The irony is overwhelming
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 18, 2022, 12:47:58 PM
Joey Hauser's the one you "love"?


Blonde hair, blue eyes, etc. etc. etc.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: NolongerWarriors on January 18, 2022, 02:13:39 PM
He has played in the Association. And I expect him to play in the Association again. He has a very in-demand skill that most do not have.

I agree with that. I mean, Dwight Burke made a good buck for a decade. Joey has some skill.

That's funny coming from a guy who spews nothing but hate toward our alma mater. Joey Hauser's the one you "love"? Surprised, given that he spurned your beloved Madison team not once but twice.

LOL, I've never personally attacked anyone here and it would never even cross my mind to do so.

And I don't like or dislike either of the Hausers, tbh.  I do know exactly what happened with them and the team and there is a ton of blame to go around (Wojo, Howard, Hausers).

But the histrionics directed at him aren't surprising.  Many MU fans have, for whatever reason, a kind of inferiority complex (but are also incredibly arrogant people individually) where they think MU isn't getting proper press coverage, unfair treatment from refs, etc.  Heck, just look at the last game thread where a good 1/4 or more of the posts were whining about the refs.

Hey, keep pounding on the guy all you want.  I'll continue to read it and laugh whenever a Scooper mentions "cura personalis."  Gotta love it.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 18, 2022, 02:14:51 PM
LOL, I've never personally attacked anyone here and it would never even cross my mind to do so.

And I don't like or dislike either of the Hausers, tbh.  I do know exactly what happened with them and the team and there is a ton of blame to go around (Wojo, Howard, Hausers).

But the histrionics directed at him aren't surprising.  Many MU fans have, for whatever reason, a kind of inferiority complex (but are also incredibly arrogant people individually) where they think MU isn't getting proper press coverage, unfair treatment from refs, etc.  Heck, just look at the last game thread where a good 1/4 or more of the posts were whining about the refs.

Hey, keep pounding on the guy all you want.  I'll continue to read it and laugh whenever a Scooper mentions "cura personalis."  Gotta love it.

Thanks for your service
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: BLM on January 18, 2022, 02:16:26 PM
LOL, I've never personally attacked anyone here and it would never even cross my mind to do so.

And I don't like or dislike either of the Hausers, tbh.  I do know exactly what happened with them and the team and there is a ton of blame to go around (Wojo, Howard, Hausers).

But the histrionics directed at him aren't surprising.  Many MU fans have, for whatever reason, a kind of inferiority complex (but are also incredibly arrogant people individually) where they think MU isn't getting proper press coverage, unfair treatment from refs, etc.  Heck, just look at the last game thread where a good 1/4 or more of the posts were whining about the refs.

Hey, keep pounding on the guy all you want.  I'll continue to read it and laugh whenever a Scooper mentions "cura personalis."  Gotta love it.

Would love to hear the real story from Scoop's real insider.

And yes, complaining about the refs on a message board is very much exclusive to Marquette basketball fans.  Definitely a sign of an inferiority complex.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: TAMU Eagle on January 18, 2022, 02:53:55 PM
LOL, I've never personally attacked anyone here and it would never even cross my mind to do so.

In your very first post you literally told another poster to go f*ck themself

I know I'll be banned, but go f*** yourself. 
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 18, 2022, 03:04:36 PM
In your very first post you literally told another poster to go f*ck themself

Shut it down, folks
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: JWags85 on January 18, 2022, 03:05:26 PM
CAUGHT IN 4K
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Retire0 on January 18, 2022, 03:36:59 PM
In your very first post you literally told another poster to go f*ck themself


Shocked this guy created an account just to bash Theo John for having an opinion. What a human.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: tower912 on January 18, 2022, 03:38:24 PM
Continuing to know his role.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 18, 2022, 03:42:01 PM
He also called Theo a "turd."

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=61601.msg1319843#msg1319843
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 18, 2022, 03:55:33 PM
In your very first post you literally told another poster to go f*ck themself

Yeah but in a nice way
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on January 18, 2022, 04:25:00 PM
LOL, I've never personally attacked anyone here and it would never even cross my mind to do so.

And I don't like or dislike either of the Hausers, tbh.  I do know exactly what happened with them and the team and there is a ton of blame to go around (Wojo, Howard, Hausers).

But the histrionics directed at him aren't surprising.  Many MU fans have, for whatever reason, a kind of inferiority complex (but are also incredibly arrogant people individually) where they think MU isn't getting proper press coverage, unfair treatment from refs, etc.  Heck, just look at the last game thread where a good 1/4 or more of the posts were whining about the refs.

Hey, keep pounding on the guy all you want.  I'll continue to read it and laugh whenever a Scooper mentions "cura personalis."  Gotta love it.

You are a proven liar, so I don't believe a damn word you're saying about knowing "exactly what happened" with Vanilla Soft Serve and his family.

I "hate" Joey the way I "hate" Brad Davison and Myles Powell. It's "sports hate."

You hate Shaka and Theo because they're Black and they don't agree with your politics. But I'm guessing you're too dense to see the difference.

So go f*ck yourself, you Badger-lovin' twat.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Hards_Alumni on January 18, 2022, 05:27:16 PM
LOL, I've never personally attacked anyone here and it would never even cross my mind to do so.

And I don't like or dislike either of the Hausers, tbh.  I do know exactly what happened with them and the team and there is a ton of blame to go around (Wojo, Howard, Hausers).

But the histrionics directed at him aren't surprising.  Many MU fans have, for whatever reason, a kind of inferiority complex (but are also incredibly arrogant people individually) where they think MU isn't getting proper press coverage, unfair treatment from refs, etc.  Heck, just look at the last game thread where a good 1/4 or more of the posts were whining about the refs.

Hey, keep pounding on the guy all you want.  I'll continue to read it and laugh whenever a Scooper mentions "cura personalis."  Gotta love it.

Ah, I see it's your first time on an internet message board.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: TSmith34 on January 18, 2022, 09:13:54 PM
In your very first post you literally told another poster to go f*ck themself
He told Rocky to go F himself. LOL.

But it's OK, you see he's a good person.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 19, 2022, 09:14:29 AM
Wait, is f*cking yourself frowned upon in these parts?

This probably deserves a separate thread.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 19, 2022, 09:28:38 AM
I herd somewon, of prominence, hoo recently agreed wit it on TV, hey?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 21, 2022, 10:27:56 PM
Joey remains undefeated at Kohl Hole.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: pbiflyer on January 21, 2022, 10:30:14 PM
Was anyone else disappointed Floppy McNutPuncher go for round two with Joey or was it just me?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 21, 2022, 10:33:35 PM
Was anyone else disappointed Floppy McNutPuncher go for round two with Joey or was it just me?

Nope.  I was hoping Joey hopped on him all night.  He didn’t but his team won
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on January 21, 2022, 11:50:18 PM
Joey remains undefeated at Kohl Hole.

He played OK. 1-5 from floor including a couple bricks, but he did fine: 11 boards, 7 pts.

Role player who mostly has stopped hurting his own team, so Izzo's giving him 20+ minutes.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: TSmith34 on January 22, 2022, 11:01:30 AM
I love Sparty today.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: CountryRoads on January 22, 2022, 11:21:43 AM
He played OK. 1-5 from floor including a couple bricks, but he did fine: 11 boards, 7 pts.

Role player who mostly has stopped hurting his own team, so Izzo's giving him 20+ minutes.

First time I’ve watched a full MSU game this year. I was surprised at how much of a role player he is on that team.

It’s evident that Markus and Sam really opened up a lot for him in his year at MU. Joey really couldn’t get open and is pretty low usage as a result. His choice though. Seems he’s on a good team that’s winning.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: We R Final Four on January 22, 2022, 11:51:57 AM
I love Sparty today.
Me too.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on January 22, 2022, 04:16:08 PM
First time I’ve watched a full MSU game this year. I was surprised at how much of a role player he is on that team.

It’s evident that Markus and Sam really opened up a lot for him in his year at MU. Joey really couldn’t get open and is pretty low usage as a result. His choice though. Seems he’s on a good team that’s winning.

That's the irony. Joey had to get away from The Cancer ... but it was Markus (and yes Sam) who made it possible for Joey to get shots. 

For Izzo, Joey gets hardly any shots at all. He mostly is a screen-setter and defensive rebounder. Which is fine. Every good team needs those. He had a pretty good game yesterday, and it's always fun to watch the home team get pounded in Madison.
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 23, 2022, 08:48:50 PM
That's the irony. Joey had to get away from The Cancer ... but it was Markus (and yes Sam) who made it possible for Joey to get shots. 


Maybe Joey didn’t like what Markus stood for as the face of FCA?
Title: Re: Hauser Brothers 2021-22 Thread
Post by: MU82 on January 23, 2022, 09:04:31 PM
Maybe Joey didn’t like what Markus stood for as the face of FCA?

Maybe. Or maybe Vanilla Soft Serve just needed his blankie.