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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: The Big East on November 26, 2020, 05:51:36 PM
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Looks like Sam and Joey got off to good starts yesterday . Both filled up the stat sheets and were very efficient in their shooting .
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WHO CARES???
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Moved on.
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WHO CARES???
FIFY
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WHO CARES???
u clicked :o
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Who are the Hausers?
Why do we care about them?
Is Wojo recruiting some kid named Hauser?
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Neil Patrick Harris doing a reboot?
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I know we can't hang on their every game, and I say this without any commentary on the coaching staff or current players, but you guys really didn't give the UVA or MSU box scores a passing click to see how the Hausers did? I'll cop to keeping a sideways glance at how they do all year.
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The elder letter writer is 1-6 today. 0 assists, which is wild for a guy who left because he wanted to play basketball “the right way.”
UVA was down 4 to San Francisco with about 15 minutes left. The letter writer was sent to the bench and UVA has been on an 10-0 run since.
Sad!
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Update. The elder scored a few times since coming back in, but UVA had seen the 5 point lead they built with him on the bench turn into a 3 point deficit.
Who is this USF coach? He looks like a high schooler.
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Update. The elder scored a few times since coming back in, but UVA had seen the 5 point lead they built with him on the bench turn into a 3 point deficit.
Who is this USF coach? He looks like a high schooler.
Todd Golden, he's only 35. He's a protege of Kyle Smith, former USF coach and now HC at Washington State.
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Wide open 3 for Sammy boy to win it. Left it short. Sad.
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I know we can't hang on their every game, and I say this without any commentary on the coaching staff or current players, but you guys really didn't give the UVA or MSU box scores a passing click to see how the Hausers did? I'll cop to keeping a sideways glance at how they do all year.
I watched MSU's game because I like MSU and they were playing my daughter's alma mater. I did not have any reaction to Joey's crap first half or second half bounce back. Just didn't care.
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https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3123051/college-hoops-gets-its-first-major-upset-of-the-year-down-goes-no.-4-virginia-and-its-completely-dogcrap-offense
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No Markus to create space for an open shooter. And Sam was drifting to his left on that shot. Not fundamentally sound.
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Maybe it was the Gold colored uniforms that distracted him???
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No Markus to create space for an open shooter. And Sam was drifting to his left on that shot. Not fundamentally sound.
Also looked like he took 3 steps?
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Sam 5 -11 from the field in the loss to the Dons . 6 boards and 3 turnovers.
Missing the last shot obviously sucked for Sam. Hard to tell from the replay, but it looked like he had enough time to step in and square up. I guess Sam thought it was like the Creighton game with very little time left, so he fired it.
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Todd Golden, he's only 35. He's a protege of Kyle Smith, former USF coach and now HC at Washington State.
He’s a name to watch. He’s really solid. USF has been solid since Smith got there and they are gonna be a tourney team out of the WCC this year I think
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He’s a name to watch. He’s really solid. USF has been solid since Smith got there and they are gonna be a tourney team out of the WCC this year I think
That’s a deep conference this year. Zags are going to earn their title.
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Sam 5 -11 from the field in the loss to the Dons . 6 boards and 3 turnovers.
Missing the last shot obviously sucked for Sam. Hard to tell from the replay, but it looked like he had enough time to step in and square up. I guess Sam thought it was like the Creighton game with very little time left, so he fired it.
I don’t know who was more disappointed by the missed last second shot.....Sam or Trump?
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That’s a deep conference this year. Zags are going to earn their title.
It's about time. What they'll go through three or four teams that are several notches below them this year instead of the usual 1 or 2?
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It's about time. What they'll go through three or four teams that are several notches below them this year instead of the usual 1 or 2?
I’ll never dismiss Gonzaga. They play as good a schedule as they can.
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I’ll never dismiss Gonzaga. They play as good a schedule as they can.
I always dismiss them. They’re overrated every year. The one thing they have going for them is they’ll go like 28-2, win their conference Tourney, and get at worst a 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament, which keeps them out West, which is almost always the weakest region since most of the top teams are coming from the East and Midwest, so it always ends up being the worst of each top 4 seed gets sent out West.
Suggs makes this year different for them. He is the highest level talent that program has ever seen. And with no typical Kentucky or Duke level team this year, this is as good of a shot as they’ll ever have.
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I always dismiss them. They’re overrated every year. The one thing they have going for them is they’ll go like 28-2, win their conference Tourney, and get at worst a 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament, which keeps them out West, which is almost always the weakest region since most of the top teams are coming from the East and Midwest, so it always ends up being the worst of each top 4 seed gets sent out West.
Suggs makes this year different for them. He is the highest level talent that program has ever seen. And with no typical Kentucky or Duke level team this year, this is as good of a shot as they’ll ever have.
That Zags team that lost in the title game to UNC was really, really good.
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I always dismiss them. They’re overrated every year. The one thing they have going for them is they’ll go like 28-2, win their conference Tourney, and get at worst a 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament, which keeps them out West, which is almost always the weakest region since most of the top teams are coming from the East and Midwest, so it always ends up being the worst of each top 4 seed gets sent out West.
Suggs makes this year different for them. He is the highest level talent that program has ever seen. And with no typical Kentucky or Duke level team this year, this is as good of a shot as they’ll ever have.
They’ve been to at least the Sweet 16 the past 5 NCAA tournaments snd haven’t lost to a higher seed since 2013 (Final Four participant Wichita State)
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They’ve been to at least the Sweet 16 the past 5 NCAA tournaments snd haven’t lost to a higher seed since 2013 (Final Four participant Wichita State)
I think that's his point... "The one thing they have going for them is they’ll go like 28-2, win their conference Tourney, and get at worst a 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament, which keeps them out West, which is almost always the weakest region"
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I think that's his point... "The one thing they have going for them is they’ll go like 28-2, win their conference Tourney, and get at worst a 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament, which keeps them out West, which is almost always the weakest region"
Actually, since 2013 they have been 8, 2, 11, 4, 1 seeds. They load up in non-conference, and strong armed the WCC to drop to 16 conference games.
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Actually, since 2013 they have been 8, 2, 11, 4, 1 seeds. They load up in non-conference, and strong armed the WCC to drop to 16 conference games.
Hold, on, lets go with your original "They’ve been to at least the Sweet 16 the past 5 NCAA tournaments"..
'18-'19 - 1 seed, E8
'17-'18 - 4 seed, S16
'16-'17 - 1 seed, Runner up
'15-'16 - 11 seed, S16
'14-15 - 2 seed, E8
So really, 2, 11, 1, 4, 1. So the 11 seed year when they weren't favored they beat SHU, Utah, and lost to Cuse. Over-seeded or not, they've generally gotten a favorable seed, and been in the weak west.
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Izzo understands how to coach showed Joey that he has to play Izzos way or bench . Joey adapted to Izzos way.
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2020/11/26/michigan-state-basketball-joshua-langford-returns-joey-hauser-debuts/6431650002/
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Joey Hauser with 10 Points 16 boards and 4 assists in the Spartans win over The Irish.
Joey averaging a double double so far in the first two games.
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Hold, on, lets go with your original "They’ve been to at least the Sweet 16 the past 5 NCAA tournaments"..
'18-'19 - 1 seed, E8
'17-'18 - 4 seed, S16
'16-'17 - 1 seed, Runner up
'15-'16 - 11 seed, S16
'14-15 - 2 seed, E8
So really, 2, 11, 1, 4, 1. So the 11 seed year when they weren't favored they beat SHU, Utah, and lost to Cuse. Over-seeded or not, they've generally gotten a favorable seed, and been in the weak west.
The NCAA moves teams around to balance the regions. The West (geographically) may have the weakest teams but it’s not necessarily the weakest regional year in and year out.
Gonzaga has 15 NCAA tournament wins in the last 5 years. How many teams have more?
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Izzo understands how to coach showed Joey that he has to play Izzos way or bench . Joey adapted to Izzos way.
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2020/11/26/michigan-state-basketball-joshua-langford-returns-joey-hauser-debuts/6431650002/
That also means keeping your mouth shut when your teammates commit a crime, the Sparty And Izzo Way
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ND was dreadful. Offense was all one on one and jack the first open 3. Went zone. Izzo stuck Joey at the foul line. They got him the ball there easily and he made plays from there.
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ND was dreadful. Offense was all one on one and jack the first open 3. Went zone. Izzo stuck Joey at the foul line. They got him the ball there easily and he made plays from there.
What happened to Brey I feel like his teams have just fallen apart recently.
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Good Article on MSU vs Notre Dame. Nice Headline for Joey.
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2020/11/28/michigan-state-basketball-score-notre-dame/6454432002/
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ND sucks
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What happened to Brey I feel like his teams have just fallen apart recently.
Honestly don't know. Recruiting hasn't changed much, usually in the 25-50 range with the occasional top-20 or sub-100 class. Their offense has fallen off, but I'm not sure exactly why. Maybe Prentiss Hubb just isn't as good a lead guard as guys they've had in the past. They had 13 of 16 seasons with top-30 offenses, but this is the fourth straight season they've been outside the top-30.
It might just be the strengthening of the ACC. Louisville and Syracuse are tough to compete with, and the rise of programs like Virginia and Florida State just leaves less room in the top-half for a program like ND. The Irish were always a bit different in that most slow-down teams had defense as their calling card. Maybe that blueprint just isn't working as well as the game modernizes.
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Honestly don't know. Recruiting hasn't changed much, usually in the 25-50 range with the occasional top-20 or sub-100 class. Their offense has fallen off, but I'm not sure exactly why. Maybe Prentiss Hubb just isn't as good a lead guard as guys they've had in the past. They had 13 of 16 seasons with top-30 offenses, but this is the fourth straight season they've been outside the top-30.
It might just be the strengthening of the ACC. Louisville and Syracuse are tough to compete with, and the rise of programs like Virginia and Florida State just leaves less room in the top-half for a program like ND. The Irish were always a bit different in that most slow-down teams had defense as their calling card. Maybe that blueprint just isn't working as well as the game modernizes.
It’s their talent IMO. Right now Cannaughton is their only alum in the NBA and he graduated in 2015.
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It’s their talent IMO. Right now Cannaughton is their only alum in the NBA and he graduated in 2015.
Jerian grants on the wizards
But not sure NBA players correlate with their success. the Shrek twins (Cooley and Harangody) never amounted to more than a small cup of coffee in the NBA but they were some of the better college players in the country during their Tenure
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Jerian grants on the wizards
But not sure NBA players correlate with their success. the Shrek twins (Cooley and Harangody) never amounted to more than a small cup of coffee in the NBA but they were some of the better college players in the country during their Tenure
Brey always did it mostly with guys that were just off the NBA radar. Tim Abromaitis, Ben Hansbrough, Zach Auguste, Bonzie Colson, Demetrius Jackson, he had a lot of guys that were really good college players but weren't long-time NBA pros. Not sure why he doesn't seem to be having the same success unearthing those guys, but quite a few of their best players were 2/3 stars that blossomed in college. Maybe it's just difficult relying on that much development, especially as players who aren't getting minutes are becoming more likely to seek better opportunities through transfer.
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Brey always did it mostly with guys that were just off the NBA radar. Tim Abromaitis, Ben Hansbrough, Zach Auguste, Bonzie Colson, Demetrius Jackson, he had a lot of guys that were really good college players but weren't long-time NBA pros. Not sure why he doesn't seem to be having the same success unearthing those guys, but quite a few of their best players were 2/3 stars that blossomed in college. Maybe it's just difficult relying on that much development, especially as players who aren't getting minutes are becoming more likely to seek better opportunities through transfer.
The back to back E8’s in 2015 and 2016 are pretty much outliers. In his 20 years at ND he’s only been to one other S16. Maybe he just isn’t as good as we think.
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Sparty had a 26-2 run spanning the end of the first half and the start of the second half. During that time, ND never ran a set other than pass around the perimeter and shoot the first open 3 or pass the ball into the post and stand around. MSU figured it out, clamped down on their defense and got their transition game going at the same time, against the ND zone, Izzo put Joey at the foul line. NDs zone was passive. MSU kept feeding Joey. He immediately looked to the low block and hit Kithier. Zone busted.
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Sparty had a 26-2 run spanning the end of the first half and the start of the second half. During that time, ND never ran a set other than pass around the perimeter and shoot the first open 3 or pass the ball into the post and stand around. MSU figured it out, clamped down on their defense and got their transition game going at the same time, against the ND zone, Izzo put Joey at the foul line. NDs zone was passive. MSU kept feeding Joey. He immediately looked to the low block and hit Kithier. Zone busted.
Yeah that ND team is bad. They came out with a lot of energy and made shots early. MSU did what a good team and all time coach do. Adjusted and it got ugly really fast.
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MSU beat writer likes the team, but says big test coming up versus Duke and Virginia
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/columnists/graham-couch/2020/11/28/msu-basketball-michigan-state-notre-dame-three-quick-takes-couch-column/6443528002/
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MSU beat writer likes the team, but says big test coming up versus Duke and Virginia
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/columnists/graham-couch/2020/11/28/msu-basketball-michigan-state-notre-dame-three-quick-takes-couch-column/6443528002/
Wow. Some analysis there.
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Wow. Some analysis there.
Graham Couch makes Jeff Potrykus blush
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Joey with another double double for MSU
11 points and 10 boards . He did foul out though . Big win for MSU over Duke
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Joey with another double double for MSU
11 points and 10 boards . He did foul out though . Big win for MSU over Duke
Ah, so basically what he was doing when he was here.
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Ah, so basically what he was doing when he was here.
Almost typed the exact same thing.
Let’s see what happens when he has his first few games when he perceives he didn’t get enough shots. First will come the pouting, then his defense will start slacking off.
IMHO he’s one and done at MSU. Not because he’ll be NBA ready but because of his complete lack of humility and maturity.
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Almost typed the exact same thing.
Let’s see what happens when he has his first few games when he perceives he didn’t get enough shots. First will come the pouting, then his defense will start slacking off.
IMHO he’s one and done at MSU. Not because he’ll be NBA ready but because of his complete lack of humility and maturity.
What’s it like to see the world through blue and gold colored glasses?
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What’s it like to see the world through blue and gold colored glasses?
What's it like to lay biblically with an elephant?
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What's it like to lay biblically with an elephant?
Probably nothing compared to what it’s like to lay with Kevin Willard. How is he, by the way, is he any good? Any interesting pillow talk about the Seton Hall program you’d care to share?
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Almost typed the exact same thing.
Let’s see what happens when he has his first few games when he perceives he didn’t get enough shots. First will come the pouting, then his defense will start slacking off.
IMHO he’s one and done at MSU. Not because he’ll be NBA ready but because of his complete lack of humility and maturity.
well, he made it one year not playing and survived just fine. And, it isn't one player taking all of the shots and being given carte blanche to do whatever the hell he wants. Plus, MSU is a top 5 team. Joey will be just fine.
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Plus, and I have watched their games, every time he starts to do something for Joey, Izzo pulls him.
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Probably nothing compared to what it’s like to lay with Kevin Willard. How is he, by the way, is he any good? Any interesting pillow talk about the Seton Hall program you’d care to share?
Does a transmission drop? Or slide?
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Plus, and I have watched their games, every time he starts to do something for Joey, Izzo pulls him.
But he did leave him in there long enough to get a double/double and lead the team to its first win ever at Duke. So there’s that...
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But he did leave him in there long enough to get a double/double and lead the team to its first win ever at Duke. So there’s that...
I wouldn't say he lead the team, that would have been either Henry or Watts.
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But he did leave him in there long enough to get a double/double and lead the team to its first win ever at Duke. So there’s that...
He made his first 3 of the year against Duke, so good on him. MSU is crazy deep and Izzo is using them all. And every time I have seen Joey make a selfish or lazy play, Izzo yanks him. As Wojo should have.
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Sam Hauser has another efficient game in UVA win over USF
Sam is shooting 63 percent from the field with 44 percent from 3 point range
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I wouldn't say he lead the team, that would have been either Henry or Watts.
And it’s not like Michigan State plays at Duke every year.
But hey, if we can find a way to make Wojo look bad, let’s sensationalize the fact that MSU FINALLY got that ever elusive win at Duke. Thank God the knight in shining armor showed up, Joseph Hauser.
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Joey appears to be playing more of a center/power forward role, not the juggernaut point forward/perimeter role he was being touted for at MU.
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Joey appears to be playing more of a center/power forward role, not the juggernaut point forward/perimeter role he was being touted for at MU.
That's what happens when the coach has the power.
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Did he not get the start this past game? ESPN box score shows him coming off the bench.
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Sparty had a 26-2 run spanning the end of the first half and the start of the second half. During that time, ND never ran a set other than pass around the perimeter and shoot the first open 3 or pass the ball into the post and stand around. MSU figured it out, clamped down on their defense and got their transition game going at the same time, against the ND zone, Izzo put Joey at the foul line. NDs zone was passive. MSU kept feeding Joey. He immediately looked to the low block and hit Kithier. Zone busted.
Gee, was anybody watching in our basketball office?
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The Notre Dame zone was more akin to the Pine Bluff zone. Very passive.
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What’s it like to see the world through blue and gold colored glasses?
Probably about as clear as someone whose dislike of Wojo prevents them from being objective.
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Joey 10 and 5 in close game versus Detroit Mercy. It is pretty clear Izzo has Joey on a Relatively tight leash
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Joey 10 and 5 in close game versus Detroit Mercy. It is pretty clear Izzo has Joey on a Relatively tight leash
He’s sharpening his pencil as we speak.
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Every time he puts Joey first, he sits. Izzo has so many other options up front.
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Sam with another highly efficient game 18 7 and 4 in overtime win over Kent State . Sam played well in the overtime .
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Overtime win over Kent State. Context matters.
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He’s sharpening his pencil Crayon as we speak.
FIFY
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Sam with another highly efficient game 18 7 and 4 in overtime win over Kent State . Sam played well in the overtime .
I wouldnt say highly efficient. Huff was highly efficient, 5 less shots to get the same amount of points.
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The Brothers face off Wednesday.
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Joey had a good game against Western Michigan.
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Joey had a good game against Western Michigan.
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2020/12/joey-hausers-3-point-barrage-helps-michigan-state-dispatch-western-michigan.html
24 and 10 with 6 threes.
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Michigan State/Virginia has been cancelled due to COVID protocols within the Virginia program. So no Hauser brother battle.
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Michigan State/Virginia has been cancelled due to COVID protocols within the Virginia program. So no Hauser brother battle.
Both Brothers were leading their respective teams in scoring and rebounds . Would have been a great TB story line.
This story says the game is postponed
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/big-ten/2020/12/08/michigan-state-virginia-basketball-game-postponed-due-covid-issues-affecting-cavaliers/6503556002/
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It is fun living in Sparty land and being asked on a regular basis why Joey left Marquette.
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It is fun living in Sparty land and being asked on a regular basis why Joey left Marquette.
You call it fun? I live in Detroit and I’d say 85% of my friends went to State or are State fans. I hate it, not my idea of fun
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You call it fun? I live in Detroit and I’d say 85% of my friends went to State or are State fans. I hate it, not my idea of fun
Lots of couch burning amongst your friends, huh?
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Joey with another double double; 10 points 10 boards and 4 assists in MSU's 109-91 win over Oakland.
Sam will be in action again against Villanova on Saturday.
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MSU outrebounded Oakland 52-20 and had 7 players in double figures while scoring 109 points.
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MSU outrebounded Oakland 52-20 and had 7 players in double figures while scoring 109 points.
I watched about 5 minutes in the first half and saw the 0-7 Oakland team hang with them. Their guard was in full Markus Howard mode, and saw Izzo rip Joey a new one. Fun times.
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I watched about 5 minutes in the first half and saw the 0-7 Oakland team hang with them. Their guard was in full Markus Howard mode, and saw Izzo rip Joey a new one. Fun times.
Izzo has Joey on a short leash and he pulls it every once in a while. Getting production out of him with that discipline.
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Izzo has Joey on a short leash and he pulls it every once in a while. Getting production out of him with that discipline.
Izzo should apply that to when he has rapists on the team
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Wildcats whomping the Spartans by 15. Joey just got himself benched with a soft turnover
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Wildcats whomping the Spartans by 15. Joey just got himself benched with a soft turnover
What a coaching concept, holding a player accountable for poor play and giving them a clear message it’s not acceptable. A foreign concept in our program.
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What a coaching concept, holding a player accountable for poor play and giving them a clear message it’s not acceptable. A foreign concept in our program.
What? I honestly wonder what some people watch.
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Sparty getting rolled. Joey gimpy and ineffective after a knee or shin bump in the first half.
Izzo benched all of his starters with two minutes to go due to lack of effort. Has given up on this game. You can send messages like that and write off games when you are Izzo.
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Sparty getting rolled. Joey gimpy and ineffective after a knee or shin bump in the first half.
Izzo benched all of his starters with two minutes to go due to lack of effort. Has given up on this game. You can send messages like that and write off games when you are Izzo.
Joey had his first lousy game and MSU lost to Northwestern . Will be interesting to hear Izzo post game comments .
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Not his first. But Izzo has earned the right to concede games early in order to punish his players.
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What? I honestly wonder what some people watch.
I believe it was 4 years of awful turnovers and shots by a certain player who was heralded as a savior because his opponent was high.
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What? I honestly wonder what some people watch.
Exactly.
Which is it - wojo needs to bench players for mistakes or wojo needs to let players play through mistakes?
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Sam with a quiet 9, 3 and 2 in a big Virginia win over Bill and Mary . First game back for the Cavs after Covid.
Joey and MSU playing against the Badgers on Christmas Day
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I would like to publicly apologize for my overly snarky and ill-informed comment in the Hauser thread on the main board. Apologies especially to harryp, who started the thread.
I was cranky, I got triggered by the Hauserness of it all, and I made a post without thinking or doing any research.
I would have posted this in that thread but it was locked before I could do so.
I hope everybody is having an enjoyable, relaxing holiday. Peace.
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Going bald at 20 would suck.
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Tell me about it.
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Joey "Slick" Hauser is having a good game.
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Joey "Slick" Hauser is having a good game.
Not even Wojo lost at home to the Badgers.
Maybe Joey shouldn’t score so much. Team game. Plays it the right way. Wanted to play team ball and win games.
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Not even Wojo lost at home to the Badgers.
Maybe Joey shouldn’t score so much. Team game. Plays it the right way. Wanted to play team ball and win games.
Tied for second on the team in attempts, 7-9, 3-3 for three, 10-11 from the line. Definitely not his fault.
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Going bald at 20 would suck.
Never noticed that before.
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Joey "Slick" Hauser is having a good game.
Career high 27. Looks like their go to guy.
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Never noticed that before.
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Wonder how much LBJ or Boozer would charge for a consultation.
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Slick puts up 27 but unfortunately slipped on the floor at the end when it counted.
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Slick puts up 27 but unfortunately slipped on the floor at the end when it counted.
They had a very slim chance at best when that happened.
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They had a very slim chance at best when that happened.
Come on. 5 point deficit with 15 seconds left, Wisconsin excellent from the line, nobody else making a play. Obviously the loss was Joey’s fault.
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Come on. 5 point deficit with 15 seconds left, Wisconsin excellent from the line, nobody else making a play. Obviously the loss was Joey’s fault.
I don’t get what you’re reading into my comment. It wasn’t a criticism of Joey. My point was responding that the game was essentially over when he turned it over.
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Going bald at 20 would suck.
Must bee da 'roids, hey?
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I don’t get what you’re reading into my comment. It wasn’t a criticism of Joey. My point was responding that the game was essentially over when he turned it over.
Agreeing with your comment. Sarcasm doesn’t always translate to message board posts.
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Agreeing with your comment. Sarcasm doesn’t always translate to message board posts.
Gotcha. Merry Christmas.
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Gotcha. Merry Christmas.
Same to you. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
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MU>UW
UW>MSU
Joey to MSU=bad decision.
Only explanation.
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Big bro giving up dang near as many points to his matchup in the first half as UVA usually gives up as a team in entire halves. UVA coming out with a different matchup to start the second half.
If Sam wanted to play for a team that played no defense and turned the ball over a ton he could’ve done that staying at Marquette and continued averaging 17 a game rather than seeing his team play at a snail’s pace and get 13 a game.
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Sam is getting absolutely abused in this game. Kispert and Timme just doing whatever the hell they want.
He's also 3/11 on the other end and just dribbled the ball off his knee.
Hate to see it.
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Blue Christmas for the Hausers. Letter writing commence.
Sam has to be the worst defender Tony’s ever coached. Kispert and Timme are just taking turns scoring at will depending on which one Sam is guarding. Mostly on late close outs or straight line drives to the tin. Also tough for him to get shots up without Markus drawing the attention of 3 defenders. Hysterical that there was actual talk about ACC Player of the Year for him.
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Sam giving up career highs to both guys he guarded today.
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So maybe Wojo and Markus weren't holding Sam back and the pack-line isn't a panacea?
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Blue Christmas for the Hausers. Letter writing commence.
Sam has to be the worst defender Tony’s ever coached. Kispert and Timme are just taking turns scoring at will depending on which one Sam is guarding. Mostly on late close outs or straight line drives to the tin. Also tough for him to get shots up without Markus drawing the attention of 3 defenders. Hysterical that there was actual talk about ACC Player of the Year for him.
Take off your salty schadenfreude blinders. 5th year senior who averaged 15/7/2 on 45-40-90 shooting splits, as a clear second option, joining a perennial top 10 team whose other best returning player is a distributing guard. The buzz was completely merited. Look at previous ACC POY, outside of Tre Jones, defense really isn’t a defining point of their game.
Sam has had a tough year, and UVA has look like a shell of their previous self. But any thought of “LOL WHAT AN OVERRATED SCRUB” is nothing than bitter MU fan sentiment
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I have nothing but respect and appreciation for what Sam accomplished at Marquette. He left.
Any urge I used to have to defend him went with him.
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Take off your salty schadenfreude blinders. 5th year senior who averaged 15/7/2 on 45-40-90 shooting splits, as a clear second option, joining a perennial top 10 team whose other best returning player is a distributing guard. The buzz was completely merited. Look at previous ACC POY, outside of Tre Jones, defense really isn’t a defining point of their game.
Sam has had a tough year, and UVA has look like a shell of their previous self. But any thought of “LOL WHAT AN OVERRATED SCRUB” is nothing than bitter MU fan sentiment
I never said he was a scrub. He’s not. But ACC Player of the Year? Yeah. That’s laughable and always was.
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Hell, he couldn't even make Big East Player of the Year, aina?
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MU>UW
UW>MSU
Joey to MSU=bad decision.
Only explanation.
One explanation, I'm sure there is more to the story.
Are there any invesgative journalists left in Wisconsin?
I see it as a tragic story all around.
Everyone lost, the kids, WOJO, Marquette, the family, MSU, Virginia, UW, and the program.
Lots of moving parts to contemplate.
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One explanation, I'm sure there is more to the story.
Are there any invesgative journalists left in Wisconsin?
I see it as a tragic story all around.
Everyone lost, the kids, WOJO, Marquette, the family, MSU, Virginia, UW, and the program.
Lots of moving parts to contemplate.
How's UW and MSU lose? They got two solid players in a year where if Sam doesn't like what he's hearing from NBA boards he can come back and have a legit shot at a championship.
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How's UW and MSU lose? They got two solid players in a year where if Sam doesn't like what he's hearing from NBA boards he can come back and have a legit shot at a championship.
You have a point.
However, the jury is still out on locker room solidarity and the influence on the coach and their program.
I'm very naive, I believe in the common good.
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One explanation, I'm sure there is more to the story.
Are there any invesgative journalists left in Wisconsin?
I see it as a tragic story all around.
Everyone lost, the kids, WOJO, Marquette, the family, MSU, Virginia, UW, and the program.
Lots of moving parts to contemplate.
Nobody ever is going to tell the true story on this one.
There are too many axes to grind and too many people hanging on in the background with their own self-interests.
The only truth I could see is the two young men didn't find what they wanted in Wisconsin, so they went elsewhere.
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One explanation, I'm sure there is more to the story.
Are there any invesgative journalists left in Wisconsin?
I see it as a tragic story all around.
Everyone lost, the kids, WOJO, Marquette, the family, MSU, Virginia, UW, and the program.
Lots of moving parts to contemplate.
Imagine if MSU (played and) beat UVA.
Holy cow. Oh my gosh.
MU>UW>MSU>UVA.
Shut. It. Down.
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Just turned on the Minnesota-MSU game to see them talk about Joey’s 1-6 shooting so far. Then on the defensive end he’s standing under the basket as his man is behind the 3 point line in the corner, and he still is late to rotate on a backdoor cut and gives up a soft 3rd foul for the and 1. Minnesota up 25.
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Minnesota exploiting Michigan St. at the 1 and the 5 in a big way tonight. No answer for Carr and Robbins.
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Just turned on the Minnesota-MSU game to see them talk about Joey’s 1-6 shooting so far. Then on the defensive end he’s standing under the basket as his man is behind the 3 point line in the corner, and he still is late to rotate on a backdoor cut and gives up a soft 3rd foul for the and 1. Minnesota up 25.
Wojo's fault.
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Just turned on the Minnesota-MSU game to see them talk about Joey’s 1-6 shooting so far. Then on the defensive end he’s standing under the basket as his man is behind the 3 point line in the corner, and he still is late to rotate on a backdoor cut and gives up a soft 3rd foul for the and 1. Minnesota up 25.
They probably coulda used Markus, ‘cept Joey woulda written Izzo a letter....
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They probably coulda used Markus, ‘cept Joey woulda written Izzo a letter....
I thought the same thing ...
MSU is 0-3 in the B1G and was just blown out by Minnesota, after getting blown out by Northwestern last week! They are probably out of the top 25 now.
Joey is crafting a letter to Izzo as we speak.
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It has been a long time since I have seen a Spartan team so lacking in leadership or identity. Izzo being Izzo, both will probably emerge in the next few weeks. Langford, Watts or Henry.
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13, 10, and 4 for Sam tonight against ND
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13, 10, and 4 for Sam tonight against ND
Cavs beat ND Which is always a good thing
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13, 10, and 4 for Sam tonight against ND
Sam fits the offense well. But I can’t for the life of me figure out how they ever recruit athletic guys like Hunter or Brogdon or even Clark. I watched a good chunk of the second half, and the number of times they turn down open driving lanes or open jumpers to kill more clock if the shot clock isn’t under 10 or 15 is EXCRUCIATING
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Joey just another guy against Nebraska The Spartans won though ,as Aaron Henry showed his potential.
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Sam fits the offense well. But I can’t for the life of me figure out how they ever recruit athletic guys like Hunter or Brogdon or even Clark. I watched a good chunk of the second half, and the number of times they turn down open driving lanes or open jumpers to kill more clock if the shot clock isn’t under 10 or 15 is EXCRUCIATING
The whole point of running an offense is to get good shots. I’ve never understood why some coaches think a contested shot with 3 seconds on the shot clock is better than an open shot with 25 seconds on the clock.
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Joey got back on track yesterday in MSU's much needed win over Rutgers. 9 points 14 Boards and 2 assists. Aaron Henry stepping into the role as the Man at MSU and Joey better off in supporting role.
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Spartans lose at the end. Not sure if it was Joeys man who broke free to get open to make the last shot. Joey was running toward Trevion Williams as he took the Final shot.
Joey with a modest game. Izzo has Joey on a tight leash .
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Sam with 17 10 and 1 in the Cavs 12 point win over BC. Getting back to form after a few weak games.
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Stats season to date
Joey
11.8 points 8.1 rebounds 1.9 assists shooting .367 from 3 And .767 from line
Sam
13.8 points 7.3 rebounds 2.0 assist shooting .34 from 3 And .75 from line
Interesting that both brothers shooting is off . May be a function of different roles they play and not having Markus to attract double teams
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Joey got abused defensively down the stretch against Purdue. Izzo left him in, though. Maybe he didn't like his other options.
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Stats season to date
Joey
11.8 points 8.1 rebounds 1.9 assists shooting .367 from 3 And .767 from line
Sam
13.8 points 7.3 rebounds 2.0 assist shooting .34 from 3 And .75 from line
Interesting that both brothers shooting is off . May be a function of different roles they play and not having Markus to attract double teams
They're both getting roughly the same numbers (Joey doing better on the glass) as at MU but less efficient shooters so it seems like they've carried the results of their last few weeks in Milwaukee in to their new homes.
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They're both getting roughly the same numbers (Joey doing better on the glass) as at MU but less efficient shooters so it seems like they've carried the results of their last few weeks in Milwaukee in to their new homes.
They wanted to be the best players on their own team. No Herro. No Markus. Heck, not even playing together.
Turns out they’re probably best as Robin. Very good players. But not great players.
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A lot more room to shoot when the entire defense is trying to stop a first team all American.
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Sam with 17 10 and 1 in the Cavs 12 point win over BC. Getting back to form after a few weak games.
I watched this game. Sam is such a smart/winning player. Joey less so as far as a I can tell.
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Wonder if Joey will have to guard Luka Garza
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Wonder if Joey will have to guard Luka Garza
He was so successful against Trevion Williams
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He was so successful against Trevion Williams
That is why I was asking.
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Sam playing ND . Has a 3 game double double streak going. Cavs are 3-0 in that stretch.
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Sam playing ND . Has a 3 game double double streak going. Cavs are 3-0 in that stretch.
Playing some pretty crappy ACC teams.
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So far UVA has their worst defense since the 2012-2013 season (still 10th best defense according to KenPom, so quite amazing that's their worst in nearly a decade). I don't know for sure, but I thought I heard a commentator for a Michigan State game say that this has been Tom Izzo's worst defense ever. Maybe those are just coincidences.
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So far UVA has their worst defense since the 2012-2013 season (still 10th best defense according to KenPom, so quite amazing that's their worst in nearly a decade). I don't know for sure, but I thought I heard a commentator for a Michigan State game say that this has been Tom Izzo's worst defense ever. Maybe those are just coincidences.
1/5 of each teams starting lineup is a Sieve. Just sayin.
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Sam string of double double ends as he goes 15 9 and 1. UVA beats ND Sucks 80-68
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Sparty in COVID lockdown.
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Virginia has played the equivalent of a D-II schedule to this point. Wow is that an awful set of Ws.
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Virginia has played the equivalent of a D-II schedule to this point. Wow is that an awful set of Ws.
ACC is the surprise crapshow this year to me. Not a lot of quality there.
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Sam went 14 points 8 boards and 2 assists with 4 for 5 from the Arc in the Cavs big win 85-50 win over #12 Clemson.
Virginia is 5-0 in the ACC and 9-2 Overall
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Sam 22 and 6 in the Cavs win over The Rambling Wreck of Georgia Tech tonight. Second straight game Sam went 4/5 from 3. Including several in key makes down the stretch.
Cavs continue to be undefeated in ACC Play.
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Will be interesting to see how Sam does against the Syracuse zone tonight. Bilas is really talking his game up.
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Hauser with 15 at the half all on threes. UVA up by 9.
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Sam with 21 7 and 3 on 7 for 13 from 3 in UVA big win over Syracuse. Cavs still undefeated in ACC play.
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You ever feel like you're telling a story that no one is listening to?
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I’m here for it.
Go Sam.
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Joey not doing much so far tonight. Spartans down by 6 at the half to Rutgers.
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Rutgers 67 MSU 37 Joey 6 points
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Rutgers 67 MSU 37 Joey 6 points
Legit question...does anybody think Vanilla Softserve is realizing that the grass isn’t always greener?
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Rutgers 67 MSU 37 Joey 6 points
13 of 15 MSU players have tested positive for COVID. Look at what happened to Cam Newton after his positive. MSU is in trouble.
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Legit question...does anybody think Vanilla Softserve is realizing that the grass isn’t always greener?
Sam has been more successful than Joey to this point, but Joey is averaging almost a double double albeit on a pretty average team. Michigan State will need to recruit over him if they want to get back to elite status as he should be more of a sixth or seventh man type player in a top program like MSU.
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Sam has been more successful than Joey to this point, but Joey is averaging almost a double double albeit on a pretty average team. Michigan State will need to recruit over him if they want to get back to elite status as he should be more of a sixth or seventh man type player in a top program like MSU.
Those numbers are essentially what he was putting up at Marquette. I was led to believe that he was much better than that!
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Sparty has PG issues, leadership issues, and COVID issues.
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Those numbers are essentially what he was putting up at Marquette. I was led to believe that he was much better than that!
More points, more rebounds, better FG% (62% from two), all in fewer minutes. The only major stat lower for him is assists.
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No Sam to pass it to.
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More points, more rebounds, better FG% (62% from two), all in fewer minutes. The only major stat lower for him is assists.
He didn’t say they’re identical. He said they’re basically the same, which they are. Given he had a full year to develop under one of the best coaches in the game, and is playing for a team that is having less success than Marquette was having with Joey, I doubt MSU fans are thrilled with a guy they thought was better than big bro and would be the best player on one of the best teams in the country.
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Early in the season after the Duke win a Coworker messaged me thanking me for Joey, I don't think she's as happy now
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I'm getting a real "peaked early" vibe from Joey. I am sure he will improve some, but I doubt we will see drastic improvement from here on out.
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He didn’t say they’re identical. He said they’re basically the same, which they are. Given he had a full year to develop under one of the best coaches in the game, and is playing for a team that is having less success than Marquette was having with Joey, I doubt MSU fans are thrilled with a guy they thought was better than big bro and would be the best player on one of the best teams in the country.
I also don’t think MSU fans expected all but two players on the roster to get COVID. He’s still #2 on the team in scoring (behind their top returner) and top rebounder by far. But the obsessed him to fail, so...
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I'm getting a real "peaked early" vibe from Joey. I am sure he will improve some, but I doubt we will see drastic improvement from here on out.
he'll still definitely end up wealthier than most of us were in his 20s whether here or Europe but yeah I agree. In the little I've seen he doesn't seem to have that next step.
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I'm getting a real "peaked early" vibe from Joey. I am sure he will improve some, but I doubt we will see drastic improvement from here on out.
Joey peaked at 17.
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he'll still definitely end up wealthier than most of us were in his 20s whether here or Europe but yeah I agree. In the little I've seen he doesn't seem to have that next step.
i believe he still has a way to go yet. he hasn't put 2 solid seasons together yet
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i believe he still has a way to go yet. he hasn't put 2 solid seasons together yet
Good point. But then again any 6'10 guy who can put the ball on the floor, stretch it, post up, and rebounds above average will make good money somewhere for sure. He's definitely not the sure fire first rounder that people pegged him to be when he committed that's for sure
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Good point. But then again any 6'10 guy who can put the ball on the floor, stretch it, post up, and rebounds above average will make good money somewhere for sure. He's definitely not the sure fire first rounder that people pegged him to be when he committed that's for sure
point well taken & i love to see "local boy does good" stories. if joey could suddenly play with a rodgers-like chip on his shoulder, ya never know. he's got some serious work to do on his quickness(lack there of) and lateral movement. he's no doubt, a shooter and a ball handler. 2 of the things he was relied upon for most of the teams he played on...until college. he found that he could get away with the lack of stuff...until now. let's call it the henry syndrome
you know who's freaking me out that i didn't see coming at all?
playing(and STARTING) for one of the elite programs in the country, going pro after one year, becoming a first round NBA pick AND doing quite well at the highest level mind you.
ya'll know who i'm talking about too
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I also don’t think MSU fans expected all but two players on the roster to get COVID. He’s still #2 on the team in scoring (behind their top returner) and top rebounder by far. But the obsessed him to fail, so...
Because they were really killing it before their covid shutdown.
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Sparty fan to me this morning at shift change. "The whole team is lousy, but you can have Joey back."
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Sam and the Cavs had their first loss in league play tonight on the road against against a strong VA Tech squad. Sam with 10 -5 -1 stat line.
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Sam and the Cavs had their first loss in league play tonight on the road against against a strong VA Tech squad. Sam with 10 -5 -1 stat line.
H and H are good college players but I don't see then playing NBA ball. They might get a cup of coffee but that's about it.
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Joey 10 9 and 3 in The Spartans loss to Iowa tonight.
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Joey 10 9 and 3 in The Spartans loss to Iowa tonight.
Great line for a one and done. LOL
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He made this big fuss about not getting enough touches and he goes to an arguably better program in MSU and has been stinking it up. Makes no sense. Then again, he is a kid.
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He made this big fuss about not getting enough touches and he goes to an arguably better program in MSU and has been stinking it up. Makes no sense. Then again, he is a kid.
Can't blame him when he has probably been told he is a basketball God his entire life by everyone around him.
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He made this big fuss about not getting enough touches and he goes to an arguably better program in MSU and has been stinking it up. Makes no sense. Then again, he is a kid.
Is he "stinking it up?" There is an argument that he peaked early and isn't going to ultimately what we thought he would be as a high school player, but he's not playing poor by any means.
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Sam off to a good start against NC State
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Sam 18-5 -1 in the Cavs win over NC State.
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Sam 23 6 and 1 in the Cavs win over Pete. Another strong 3 point game for Sam going 3/4 from distance
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My whole opinion of Joey has changed. Watching him ask Izzo "What do you want me to do?" after another turnover made me feel for him. Also, after his latest buzz cut, it turns out he has a bald spot. Lots of sympathy.
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My whole opinion of Joey has changed. Watching him ask Izzo "What do you want me to do?" after another turnover made me feel for him. Also, after his latest buzz cut, it turns out he has a bald spot. Lots of sympathy.
Announcers talking in-depth about Joeys zero point game in the Spartans win over Nebraska
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Announcers talking in-depth about Joeys zero point game in the Spartans win over Nebraska
We may have found the source of the cancer.
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Joey has some offensive talent, but he has serious weaknesses on both ends of the court (especially one), as we saw during his one season here.
He also appears to be quite mentally weak. And unfortunately, a mentally weak person ended up playing a major role in ruining our best season in years, as well as a potentially outstanding follow-up season.
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Joey came off the bench tonight. Message delivered. Solid first half.
Joey apparently suggested it to Izzo.
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Congrats the Mich St. for a huge 2pt win over Penn St.
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Joey with 11 2 and 3 off the bench.
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Joey came off the bench tonight. Message delivered. Solid first half.
Joey apparently suggested it to Izzo.
Did he write a letter?
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Details of Joey Self Benching
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/02/joey-hauser-strong-off-bench-for-michigan-state-after-move-from-lineup.html
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Details of Joey Self Benching
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/02/joey-hauser-strong-off-bench-for-michigan-state-after-move-from-lineup.html
Maybe he's growing up a little.
Or maybe mommy and daddy told him to do it.
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Sam earns ACC player of the week. Article on his improving Defense.
https://www.pilotonline.com/sports/college/university-virginia/vp-sp-uva-sam-hauser-defense-20210209-vu44wpwr3fhqjjk35ijwili7ca-story.html
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Maybe he's growing up a little.
Or maybe mommy and daddy told him to do it.
I'd wager a guess a lot more mature then what you and the rest of the scapegoats give credit
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I'd wager a guess a lot more mature then what you and the rest of the scapegoats give credit
I'll give Joey credit when he's participating on a successful team.
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Sam and Joey were 100% right to exit this program. They saw Woj for what he is...total incapable fraud, hey?
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Sam 8 10 and 3 in the Cavs win over Georgia Tech.
UVA is 14-3
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Sam and Joey were 100% right to exit this program. They saw Woj for what he is...total incapable fraud, hey?
Attaboy. Root for the traitors instead of your alma mater.
Sam has been a heck of a player for 3 seasons (and a valuable role player as a frosh) and he was a terrible loss.
Joey has done absolutely nothing as a college basketball player. Indeed, he has done worse than nothing - he contributed significantly to the failure of one (long-ago) storied program, and is now contributing to the failure of a (very recently) storied program.
What could 2018-19 Marquette and 2020-21 Michigan State possibly have in common? Hmm ... I wonder ... what (or who) could it be?
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C'mon man, some are visionary, are able call a spade a spade, even if it hurts or isn't popular to do so. Were the Hausers wrong for doing so, hey?
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Joey 9 and 7 coming off the bench. Spartans routed by Iowa.
Sam 17-5-2 in UVA pivotal ACC win over UNC. Cavs are 15-3 and first in ACC.
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Sam 17-5-2 in UVA pivotal ACC win over UNC. Cavs are 15-3 and first in ACC.
Pivotal? The clear first placed team beating a bubble team at home in a game they were never below 78% odds to win isn't exactly what I'd call pivotal.
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What could 2018-19 Marquette and 2020-21 Michigan State possibly have in common? Hmm ... I wonder ... what (or who) could it be?
Correlation does not equal causation. You know that, Mike.
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What could 2018-19 Marquette and 2020-21 Michigan State possibly have in common? Hmm ... I wonder ... what (or who) could it be?
No point guard?
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My Spartan fan buddies are more frustrated with Rocket Watts than they are with Joey. They rant about a guy who can refuse the keys. And then they usually end somewhere around it being a COVID season and he probably not get enough coaching in the off-season.
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Attaboy. Root for the traitors instead of your alma mater.
Sam has been a heck of a player for 3 seasons (and a valuable role player as a frosh) and he was a terrible loss.
Joey has done absolutely nothing as a college basketball player. Indeed, he has done worse than nothing - he contributed significantly to the failure of one (long-ago) storied program, and is now contributing to the failure of a (very recently) storied program.
What could 2018-19 Marquette and 2020-21 Michigan State possibly have in common? Hmm ... I wonder ... what (or who) could it be?
Have to chime back in.
You nailed it and said it with class.
Traitor is being kind.
All the talk abought enlightened self interest is nonsense.
Selfishness is what it is and usually gets rewarded for what it is.
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Sam 11 and 5 tonight . Cavs blown out by FSU
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I sat down to watch the Your Honor series finale tonight and thought I'd check out this game before I went to Showtime.
As the game hit my screen, the announcer was talking about how Virginia had rallied from a 23-point deficit. They were down by 8 with about 13 1/2 minutes to go.
Over the next 5-6 minutes, Florida State outscored Virginia 17-0 to go up 25. Game over.
During that stretch, Sam missed two wide-open 3s and a short jumper on a post-up. He also threw the ball away once.
And I honestly don't think FSU missed a shot during the entire run. Heck, I'm not even sure the ball touched the rim. Every shot was SPLASH, right through the net. It was like Hoosiers - the movie, not the mediocre team coached by Archie Miller.
I had seen more than enough and switched to Showtime. I mostly enjoyed Your Honor, too.
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I sat down to watch the Your Honor series finale tonight and thought I'd check out this game before I went to Showtime.
As the game hit my screen, the announcer was talking about how Virginia had rallied from a 23-point deficit. They were down by 8 with about 13 1/2 minutes to go.
Over the next 5-6 minutes, Florida State outscored Virginia 17-0 to go up 25. Game over.
During that stretch, Sam missed two wide-open 3s and a short jumper on a post-up. He also threw the ball away once.
And I honestly don't think FSU missed a shot during the entire run. Heck, I'm not even sure the ball touched the rim. Every shot was SPLASH, right through the net. It was like Hoosiers - the movie, not the mediocre team coached by Archie Miller.
I had seen more than enough and switched to Showtime. I mostly enjoyed Your Honor, too.
What an amazing coincidence that you just happened to tune in at the precise time that showcased Sam at his absolute worst. Odds against it probably 1000-1. And yet I’m not even surprised a little. Amazing...
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What an amazing coincidence that you just happened to tune in at the precise time that showcased Sam at his absolute worst. Odds against it probably 1000-1. And yet I’m not even surprised a little. Amazing...
Was waiting for my wife to join me to watch Your Honor, so I put the game on for a few minutes. She sits down and says, "Who's playing?" And I say, "Virginia-Florida State. And since I turned the game on, Florida State hasn't missed and Virginia hasn't come close to scoring. It was an 8-point game and now it's 20-something."
I kid you not, Tony.
As you know, I like Sam as a player. He could have been a Marquette all-timer and I still think he could make a lot of money in the NBA. And he could have a nice NCAA run with Va. this season. But yes, he sucked in this game, or at least in the stretch I saw.
EDIT: Oh, and BTW, I also saw Sam have an excellent 5-minute stretch against UNC on Saturday - hit a pair of 3s, had a steal and a nice pass. Not surprising; he's a very good player.
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What an amazing coincidence that you just happened to tune in at the precise time that showcased Sam at his absolute worst. Odds against it probably 1000-1. And yet I’m not even surprised a little. Amazing...
LOL, I know all the meat-eaters thought all it would take for Sam to turn into the next Larry Bird was to get away from Wojo.
But I guess since that didn't happen, accusing Scoopers of lying about something so trivial is how they deal with it.
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EDIT: Oh, and BTW, I also saw Sam have an excellent 5-minute stretch against UNC on Saturday - hit a pair of 3s, had a steal and a nice pass. Not surprising; he's a very good player.
WHY DID'T YOU POST ABOUT IT THEN HUH??? YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO COVER UP WOJO'S PROBLEMS!!!
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Joey has 3 turnovers in final minute to seal the loss for MSU in a close game, loss to Purdue.
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LOL, I know all the meat-eaters thought all it would take for Sam to turn into the next Larry Bird was to get away from Wojo.
But I guess since that didn't happen, accusing Scoopers of lying about something so trivial is how they deal with it.
Sam is Sam. I never said (or predicted) otherwise.
Mike and I are friends and we sometimes give each other sh$t. Not surprised you don’t get it - you don’t seem like a guy who has many (any?). But by all means continue to insert yourself in all of my back and fourths. The obsessed really don’t have a choice, a’ina?
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Joey has 3 turnovers in final minute to seal the loss for MSU in a close game, loss to Purdue.
I missed it but ty for the synopsis. :)
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Joey has 3 turnovers in final minute to seal the loss for MSU in a close game, loss to Purdue.
He was 3-4 from the floor, all from 3...so naturally he bricked a 3 late when they needed a bucket, in addition being sloppy with the ball. Kid is a mess right now.
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He was 3-4 from the floor, all from 3...so naturally he bricked a 3 late when they needed a bucket, in addition being sloppy with the ball. Kid is a mess right now.
If your life depended on who would take the triple in the clutch among all MU players?
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Currently? DJ
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Fair to say at this point the Hauser boys' decision to transfer is working out for absolutely no one.
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LOL, I know all the meat-eaters thought all it would take for Sam to turn into the next Larry Bird was to get away from Wojo.
But I guess since that didn't happen, accusing Scoopers of lying about something so trivial is how they deal with it.
teal eyn'a? i never heard this from any of those "savages". please re-read lenny's post. that had to sting a little, but dittos on ya lenny!
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Fair to say at this point the Hauser boys' decision to transfer is working out for absolutely no one.
I don't think that's fair to say about Sam at all. He's got a pretty good thing going at Virginia. They lost their last game, and he had a bad stretch, but he has played quite well for them and they could have a pretty nice run in the NCAAs ... something he sure never had at Marquette.
As for Joey, Izzo and Wojo ... you're right there. Hausershima hasn't worked out all that swell for them.
Anybody who would call Joey anything but a major disappointment is delusional, and obviously MSU and MU are hot messes. Especially MU.
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I don't think Virginia is that good. They've stacked wins in a mediocre ACC and have been blown out by the best teams they've faced.
Virginia Tech beat them by 14, Florida State beat them by 21, and Gonzaga beat them by 23.
I still see them as a tourney team. Probably an 8 or 9 seed based on talent, though they're actual seed will probably be higher. But I don't see Virginia going very far in the Dance.
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I don't think that's fair to say about Sam at all. He's got a pretty good thing going at Virginia.
At this point, I'm glad Sam decided to transfer. MU would have been better with him last year, but that ended in covid misery for every team. Glad he gets to play this year - and I guess he now gets another year option too? Hell, 20/20 hindsight, everyone should have transferred 2 years ago and sat out last year.
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I don't think that's fair to say about Sam at all. He's got a pretty good thing going at Virginia. They lost their last game, and he had a bad stretch, but he has played quite well for them and they could have a pretty nice run in the NCAAs ... something he sure never had at Marquette.
Anything could happen, especially this year, but this Virginia team is not good. They've played three games against teams in the NET and KenPom top 40. They're 0-3 in those games, losing by 23, 14 and 21 points, respectively. They have as many Quad 1 wins as Marquette. They've beaten up on a lot of non-tournament teams, but nothing on their resume to date indicates they're a threat for a pretty nice run.
Obviously the pandemic changed everything - something that couldn't have been known when he decided to transfer - but had he and his brother returned to MU, last year's MU team would have been better than this Virginia team.
In the meantime, Sam's two years older and his pro prospects are no better - and probably worse - than had he turned pro instead of transferring after the 2019 season. He's 23 years old now but still the same player he was at Marquette, almost literally. His numbers this year are nearly identical to what he did for three seasons at Marquette. And his lack of NBA-level athleticism continues to be glaring. Anyone who believed the year off would help him in that regard was mistaken.
If he's in a happier place, then he made a great decision for himself. But from a purely basketball perspective, he's worse off.
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Anything could happen, especially this year, but this Virginia team is not good. They've played three games against teams in the NET and KenPom top 40. They're 0-3 in those games, losing by 23, 14 and 21 points, respectively. They have as many Quad 1 wins as Marquette. They've beaten up on a lot of non-tournament teams, but nothing on their resume to date indicates they're a threat for a pretty nice run.
Obviously the pandemic changed everything - something that couldn't have been known when he decided to transfer - but had he and his brother returned to MU, last year's MU team would have been better than this Virginia team.
In the meantime, Sam's two years older and his pro prospects are no better - and probably worse - than had he turned pro instead of transferring after the 2019 season. He's 23 years old now but still the same player he was at Marquette, almost literally. His numbers this year are nearly identical to what he did for three seasons at Marquette. And his lack of NBA-level athleticism continues to be glaring. Anyone who believed the year off would help him in that regard was mistaken.
If he's in a happier place, then he made a great decision for himself. But from a purely basketball perspective, he's worse off.
I doubt Sam would say he's worse off.
We'll see what happens the rest of the year. I'm not rooting for him, but I'm not rooting against him either.
I don't think Virginia is that good. They've stacked wins in a mediocre ACC and have been blown out by the best teams they've faced.
Virginia Tech beat them by 14, Florida State beat them by 21, and Gonzaga beat them by 23.
I still see them as a tourney team. Probably an 8 or 9 seed based on talent, though they're actual seed will probably be higher. But I don't see Virginia going very far in the Dance.
The beautiful thing is that we'll get to see!
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Joey 11 4 and 2 off the bench. Spartans continue their losing ways.
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I don't think Virginia is that good. They've stacked wins in a mediocre ACC and have been blown out by the best teams they've faced.
Virginia Tech beat them by 14, Florida State beat them by 21, and Gonzaga beat them by 23.
I still see them as a tourney team. Probably an 8 or 9 seed based on talent, though they're actual seed will probably be higher. But I don't see Virginia going very far in the Dance.
Nope. They look like a team that will get blown off the court at some point by 20-30. The defense is good and they’re still the slowest team in the nation but as soon as they play a team that’s making baskets, game over.
I didn’t realize just how bad the ACC was until looking at their wins.
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At this point, the optics of losing two brothers who were WI high school stars and starters for Marquette, one of whom was a cornerstone in the rebuilding effort and had played three good years for the program, are worse than the potential production lost from those players.
It doesn’t matter how bad Joey and MSU are doing, or how little Sam has changed since going to Virginia. Losing them will be a black eye for Wojo for as long as he’s at Marquette. It will always be seen as the beginning of the end for him here.
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At this point, the optics of losing two brothers who were WI high school stars and starters for Marquette, one of whom was a cornerstone in the rebuilding effort and had played three good years for the program, are worse than the potential production lost from those players.
It doesn’t matter how bad Joey and MSU are doing, or how little Sam has changed since going to Virginia. Losing them will be a black eye for Wojo for as long as he’s at Marquette. It will always be seen as the beginning of the end for him here.
Oh I agree with you there. But the idea that all they needed was better coaching and they would blossom into huge stars is a bit much.
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Oh I agree with you there. But the idea that all they needed was better coaching and they would blossom into huge stars is a bit much.
I agree. I’ll admit that I wanted them to do well because it’d be one more thing I could rip Wojo for, another notch in his belt of ineptitude. But after watching them both multiple times this year, they’re the same guys they were at Marquette. And I guess you can probably say that about 99% of transfers. I’m sure some Nebraska fans were probably saying it about Ed Morrow.
And really, in the “ripping on Wojo” department, how they performed at their new schools was immaterial. The damage was done simply by their leaving.
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Oh I agree with you there. But the idea that all they needed was better coaching and they would blossom into huge stars is a bit much.
Yup.
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The beautiful thing is that we'll get to see!
Amen!
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Joseph Hauser is apparently glued to the bench. 8th or 9th man now?? Will he transfer back to MU with a different coach?
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Joseph Hauser is apparently glued to the bench. 8th or 9th man now?? Will he transfer back to MU with a different coach?
Spartans Winning over Indiana, Joey have another poor performance lots of missed shots and turnovers
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Spartans Winning over Indiana, Joey have another poor performance lots of missed shots and turnovers
The secret may be to not play Joey?
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The secret may be to not play Joey?
He just needs to find a good coach to get the most out of him
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Watched the last 15 minutes and Joey barely played other than a few seconds at the end. He’s really being phased out.
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Watched the last 15 minutes and Joey barely played other than a few seconds at the end. He’s really being phased out.
He's a streak shooter. If he's missing open threes his faults become more glaring. Especially the turns and matador D. It could be letter time?
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Joey Hauser obviously closed out his year at MU not so well. Couldn't hang onto the ball, turnovers, etc. I thought it was just a mental thing for him as he wasn't getting along with teammates, etc (and whatever the exact problems were with Markus shooting, etc, I don't know). Two years removed, with normal development he should be way ahead of where he was at MU. It doesn't seem like he has improved much.
But it seems like he is having some of the same problems. And he can't guard bigs, and to slow to guard 3's.
https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/Board/93/Contents/What-would-it-take-for-Hauser-to-get-permanently-benched-161042289/?page=2
Joey, maybe next year will be his year. Would probably benefit from having a great shooter or two around him to give him space. Maybe Markus was actually good for him. Maybe we'll know next year - I can't imagine that MSU will be down for two years in a row.
Sam, same Sam. He can play, but I don't think he can be the man. A great Robin.
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Joey Hauser obviously closed out his year at MU not so well. Couldn't hang onto the ball, turnovers, etc. I thought it was just a mental thing for him as he wasn't getting along with teammates, etc (and whatever the exact problems were with Markus shooting, etc, I don't know). Two years removed, with normal development he should be way ahead of where he was at MU. It doesn't seem like he has improved much.
But it seems like he is having some of the same problems. And he can't guard bigs, and to slow to guard 3's.
https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/Board/93/Contents/What-would-it-take-for-Hauser-to-get-permanently-benched-161042289/?page=2
Joey, maybe next year will be his year. Would probably benefit from having a great shooter or two around him to give him space. Maybe Markus was actually good for him. Maybe we'll know next year - I can't imagine that MSU will be down for two years in a row.
Sam, same Sam. He can play, but I don't think he can be the man. A great Robin. And that takes nothing away from Sam. He would have been great to have for another year at MU. And had he redshirted last year, he sure would help this team, just having the maturity around.
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Joey final stat line 13 minutes 4 points 1 Rebound 3 turnovers 2-7 from the field including 0-3 from 3 point range.
Key win for the Spartans today over Indiana.
Izzo giving chances to players who are more physical.
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Izzo said a couple days ago that guys would be playing for their jobs. He said he'd only give significant PT to those who were worthy, those who earned it.
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Izzo said a couple days ago that guys would be playing for their jobs. He said he'd only give significant PT to those who were worthy, those who earned it.
Mind games
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We need some posters from scoop to go over and set those insensitive, uninformed Spartan fans straight about Joey. All of their complaints about St. Joseph are Wojo's fault.
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We need somr posters from scoop to go over and set those insensitive, uninformed Spartan fans straight about Joey. All of their complaints about St. Joseph are Wojo's fault.
I blame "The Cancer."
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Well, there was one poster there who pointed out that Joey was at his most effective with a high scoring ball hog.
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I blame "The Cancer."
Maybe he’s not that special of a player
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Seriously, tower, we're joking about this, but I believe what GOO says is true (and a few others have said it in the past):
Markus was such a focus of the defense, he created a TON of open shots for his teammates. Think of how many uncontested 3s were there for Sam, Joey, Bailey, Cain, Sacar, etc.
Now, Markus wasn't always the best at seeing open teammates; he was never a real PG and he loved to shoot. But the ball did find those guys plenty.
The time Sam scored 31 in the game at GT that Markus missed when Sam and Sacar shared PG duties has become the stuff of legend for the Scoopers who genuflect at the mere thought of anything Hauser. And that was a great feat, one I enjoyed very much. But the fact is that Sam also averaged more than 20 ppg (on 54% shooting, including 46% from 3) over the next 5 games with Markus back in the lineup.
Unfortunately, Sam went cold down the stretch, just as Markus struggled and Joey was on a milk carton. All that, combined with the bad chemistry, was our undoing.
I don't watch a lot of Michigan State basketball, but I'm guessing the younger Hauser isn't seeing as many wide-open looks as he got as an MU frosh. And now he isn't even getting much PT - which indicates that maybe, just maybe, his struggles at Marquette weren't somebody else's fault.
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Yes. Markus forced a lot of shots. But his presence created open looks and prevented post double teams.
I go back a few games where Joey fouled out and committed a few turnovers in 14 minutes. Izzo came over to talk to him and I read Joey's lips. 'I don't know what you want me to do.'
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Sam 19 -8-3 in Cavs 1 point loss to Duke.
Sam missed a critical 3 pointer in the last minute that would have given UVA the lead
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Sam 19 -8-3 in Cavs 1 point loss to Duke.
Sam missed a critical 3 pointer in the last minute that would have given UVA the lead
On the game's final play, it must have felt like deja vu to him as he could only watch while Kihei Clark dribbled down court, fumbled the ball, never for a second considered passing to Sam or anybody else, and then missed a desperation 3. Of course, the difference is that Clark is not a good shooter while Markus was one of the best shooters in the country.
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On the game's final play, it must have felt like deja vu to him as he could only watch while Kihei Clark dribbled down court, fumbled the ball, never for a second considered passing to Sam or anybody else, and then missed a desperation 3. Of course, the difference is that Clark is not a good shooter while Markus was one of the best shooters in the country.
Those end of game situations were probably my biggest pet peeve with Markus. MU might as well have had the other 4 guys stand under MU's defensive basket for all the difference it would have made in terms of who was going to touch the ball, and how many of the opponent's players were going to swarm Markus knowing the ball would never leave his hands.
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Article on UVA after loss. One of their takeaways is Sam needs to keep looking for his shot.
https://dailyprogress.com/sports/rapid-reaction-three-takeaways-from-virginias-66-65-loss-to-duke/article_277ca454-73f3-11eb-a75b-fff0788c4f16.html
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Article on UVA after loss. One of their takeaways is Sam needs to keep looking for his shot.
https://dailyprogress.com/sports/rapid-reaction-three-takeaways-from-virginias-66-65-loss-to-duke/article_277ca454-73f3-11eb-a75b-fff0788c4f16.html
Many of us used to say the same when Sam was here. He was a good post-up player and we wanted him to do it more.
Sam had a very good game yesterday. But down the stretch he missed his last 2 shots, including a wide-open 3, got the ball stolen from him, and also got away with an obvious travel.
And in defense of Clark, Sam didn’t work to get open on the final play. He just stood 25 feet from the hoop, with a defender nearby.
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Many of us used to say the same when Sam was here. He was a good post-up player and we wanted him to do it more.
Sam had a very good game yesterday. But down the stretch he missed his last 2 shots, including a wide-open 3, got the ball stolen from him, and also got away with an obvious travel.
And in defense of Clark, Sam didn’t work to get open on the final play. He just stood 25 feet from the hoop, with a defender nearby.
He needs a coach that will get him the ball
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Sam 21 and 2 in Cavs loss to NC State.
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Sam 21 and 2 in Cavs loss to NC State.
Ice cold first half (2 points) and red hot 2nd half (19 points).
Virginia on a 3 game losing streak. As I thought, a good but not great team.
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Current Standings:
ACC
Marquette, 1-0
Virginia, 11-4
Big Ten
Marquette, 1-0
Wisconsin, 10-7
Michigan State, 6-9
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Current Standings:
ACC
Marquette, 1-0
Virginia, 11-4
Big Ten
Marquette, 1-0
Wisconsin, 10-7
Michigan State, 6-9
Just don't post the big east standings ;D
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Sam is used to late season losing streaks.
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This was a good thread to stumble into.
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Sam is used to late season losing streaks.
Only Wojo-coached Sam is. Bennett-coached Sam wasn't supposed to be.
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Joey with some clutch shots, bores, and D down the stretch as MSU takes down OSU. Don’t look now but Sparty may be back on the bubble.
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Joey with some clutch shots, bores, and D down the stretch as MSU takes down OSU. Don’t look now but Sparty may be back on the bubble.
Hope Michigan sweeps them to end the season. The meltdown by Saint Izzo would be amazing
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Izzo says they are playing for their 21-22 scholarships, suddenly the team starts playing defense and making shots.
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Top 100 draftable guys by San Vecenie on The Athletic.
No MU guys - although he listed his next 10 and Dawson was at 105 "Marquette’s Dawson Garcia has some real offensive skill as a ballhandler and shooter, but he’s awful defensively right now. He needs to get stronger and prove himself there. Should go back to school and keep improving his game.
No mention of either of the Stevens Point All-Americans. Not surprised that Dawson was rated higher than either.
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Top 100 draftable guys by San Vecenie on The Athletic.
No MU guys - although he listed his next 10 and Dawson was at 105 "Marquette’s Dawson Garcia has some real offensive skill as a ballhandler and shooter, but he’s awful defensively right now. He needs to get stronger and prove himself there. Should go back to school and keep improving his game.
No mention of either of the Stevens Point All-Americans. Not surprised that Dawson was rated higher than either.
That's interesting. I'm not certain, of course, but I think Sam plays in the league. I'm even less certain about Dawson. Frankly, I'd take Carton ahead of either of them (and I'm not sure I'd take him, either).
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Just don't post the big east standings ;D
Marquette 6-10
Michigan State 0-0
Wisconsin 0-1
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Marquette 6-10
Michigan State 0-0
Wisconsin 0-1
And based on results vs teams with a pulse.
Safe to assume Virginia gets boat raced against Nova and would be 0-1 if not cancelled!!!!
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Marquette 6-10
Michigan State 0-0
Wisconsin 0-1
Not Hauser related, but:
North Carolina 0-1
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Joey 11 and 8 in 26 minutes in the Spartans loss to Maryland yesterday.
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Sam 18 and 6 In the Cavs win over The U
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In Joey's first 5 minutes, Indiana was attacking Joey on almost every possession. Either by having his guy set the high screen, as Sparty is switching everything, or by isolating on the wing and having his man attack. 4 straight times.
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In Joey's first 5 minutes, Indiana was attacking Joey on almost every possession. Either by having his guy set the high screen, as Sparty is switching everything, or by isolating on the wing and having his man attack. 4 straight times.
I blame Markus.
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Its really going to be a shame if the spartans streak of 23 straight NCAAs comes to an end in Joey's first year with the program
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Its really going to be a shame if the spartans streak of 23 straight NCAAs comes to an end in Joey's first year with the program
He’s a massive liability on defense and at times, lazy on offense when it comes to setting screens. I didn’t see him earlier this year, so I’m not sure if it’s frustration at the moment but I can see why his playing time is erratic. He “wanted” hard coaching, well, he’s getting it. He was always the higher rated prospect but I wonder when it’s all said and done if Sam doesn’t have the better overall college career
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He’s a massive liability on defense and at times, lazy on offense when it comes to setting screens. I didn’t see him earlier this year, so I’m not sure if it’s frustration at the moment but I can see why his playing time is erratic. He “wanted” hard coaching, well, he’s getting it. He was always the higher rated prospect but I wonder when it’s all said and done if Sam doesn’t have the better overall college career
There's no reason to wonder, Rico. The evidence has been presented and the jury has ruled strongly in Sam's favor.
One is a fine all-around player who made the very most of the abilities he has. The other got used to hearing how wonderful he was, and the truth has really been a shock to his system. High maintenance and low production is a bad combination for any coach to have to deal with.
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Joey 6 4 and 2 in the Spartans win over Indiana.
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Joey 6 4 and 2 in the Spartans loss to Michigan yesterday.
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Consistent!
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Consistent!
He rode the pine as they were being blown out and saw mostly garbage time
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He rode the pine as they were being blown out and saw mostly garbage time
But ya gotta admit that he consistently does that very well.
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But ya gotta admit that he consistently does that very well.
He writes his best letters from the bench.
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I watched very little of that last game, and it was garbage time when I tuned in -- just in time to hear Dickie V criticize Izzo for not getting Hauser more looks.
It wasn't sharp criticism. Dickie V doesn't do that. He said something like, "Michigan State is having a rare bad season. One thing they need to do is figure out how to get somebody like Hauser more touches."
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I watched very little of that last game, and it was garbage time when I tuned in -- just in time to hear Dickie V criticize Izzo for not getting Hauser more looks.
It wasn't sharp criticism. Dickie V doesn't do that. He said something like, "Michigan State is having a rare bad season. One thing they need to do is figure out how to get somebody like Hauser more touches."
Maybe Dukie V was the ghostwriter of the letter...
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Sam 24 8 and 1 in the Cavs win over Louisville.
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Very nice stretch to close out the regular season for the Hauser who's actually good at basketball.
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Joey with 11 and 5 in the Spartans win over Michigan in the season finale. Got in foul trouble covering Hunter Dickinson,the Wolverines 7-1 255 pound center
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Sam picked first team all-ACC.
https://247sports.com/college/virginia/Article/Atlantic-Coast-Conference-announces-All-ACC-Teams-Player-of-the-Year-Coach-of-the-Year-Sixth-Man-of-the-Year-Defensive-Player-of-the-Year-Freshman-of-the-Year-awards-162045851/
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Sam picked first team all-ACC.
https://247sports.com/college/virginia/Article/Atlantic-Coast-Conference-announces-All-ACC-Teams-Player-of-the-Year-Coach-of-the-Year-Sixth-Man-of-the-Year-Defensive-Player-of-the-Year-Freshman-of-the-Year-awards-162045851/
Good on Sam. Beat out VaTech's Aluma by 4 points. Sam's a heck of a player.
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Happy for Sam. Really bummed he left, but in hindsight it was the perfect move for him personally. Had he stayed, he would have been done last year, and the tourney was cancelled*. As it works out, he sat out the year to get healthy, is on a decent team, and gets to dance this year.
* Assuming the letter didn't also contain the original strain of Covid.
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Happy for Sam. Really bummed he left, but in hindsight it was the perfect move for him personally. Had he stayed, he would have been done last year, and the tourney was cancelled*. As it works out, he sat out the year to get healthy, is on a decent team, and gets to dance this year.
* Assuming the letter didn't also contain the original strain of Covid.
Of course, he could have come back to Marquette for a fifth season if he had wanted to.
But yes, this likely was good for Sam. He got different - and almost certainly better - coaching, and he got to play in an entirely different offensive system. And, as you point out, he was able to get totally healthy; he looks much more fit down the stretch this season than he did in 2019.
Still, it's interesting how close his Virginia stats are to his Marquette stats, including his advanced stats. He is who he is, which is a very good college player. I think he'll have a decent shot at the NBA.
As for finally experiencing NCAA tourney success ... I haven't made up my mind how deep a run his Virginia team is likely to have. Right now, bracketmatrix has them as a 5-seed, and I certainly could see them being a victim of one of the infamous 5/12 upsets. But it obviously won't be any shorter of a run than he had at Marquette -- and as you said, he'd have had no tourney at all last season.
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Of course, he could have come back to Marquette for a fifth season if he had wanted to.
But yes, this likely was good for Sam. He got different - and almost certainly better - coaching, and he got to play in an entirely different offensive system. And, as you point out, he was able to get totally healthy; he looks much more fit down the stretch this season than he did in 2019.
Still, it's interesting how close his Virginia stats are to his Marquette stats, including his advanced stats. He is who he is, which is a very good college player. I think he'll have a decent shot at the NBA.
As for finally experiencing NCAA tourney success ... I haven't made up my mind how deep a run his Virginia team is likely to have. Right now, bracketmatrix has them as a 5-seed, and I certainly could see them being a victim of one of the infamous 5/12 upsets. But it obviously won't be any shorter of a run than he had at Marquette -- and as you said, he'd have had no tourney at all last season.
Why could he have come back to Marquette for a fifth season? Unless he was going to redshirt his senior season to avoid playing with Markus.
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Why could he have come back to Marquette for a fifth season? Unless he was going to redshirt his senior season to avoid playing with Markus.
Weren't players allowed to return for a fifth season due to COVID-19? If not, I was mistaken and never mind that line. The rest of my post stands.
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Of course, he could have come back to Marquette for a fifth season if he had wanted to.
But yes, this likely was good for Sam. He got different - and almost certainly better - coaching, and he got to play in an entirely different offensive system. And, as you point out, he was able to get totally healthy; he looks much more fit down the stretch this season than he did in 2019.
Still, it's interesting how close his Virginia stats are to his Marquette stats, including his advanced stats. He is who he is, which is a very good college player. I think he'll have a decent shot at the NBA.
As for finally experiencing NCAA tourney success ... I haven't made up my mind how deep a run his Virginia team is likely to have. Right now, bracketmatrix has them as a 5-seed, and I certainly could see them being a victim of one of the infamous 5/12 upsets. But it obviously won't be any shorter of a run than he had at Marquette -- and as you said, he'd have had no tourney at all last season.
This year is the "free" year. Seniors last year didn't have that option. So in theory, he could still stick around another year. still because of his decision. Like I said, that's all in hindsight, but it worked out well for him.
Agree - I don't know that VA is going to make that much noise. But he does get a NCAA game at least. The only thing the MU/UNC game proved to me is the ACC is probably hot garbage this year. We'll see.
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This year is the "free" year. Seniors last year didn't have that option. So in theory, he could still stick around another year. still because of his decision. Like I said, that's all in hindsight, but it worked out well for him.
Agree - I don't know that VA is going to make that much noise. But he does get a NCAA game at least. The only thing the MU/UNC game proved to me is the ACC is probably hot garbage this year. We'll see.
Thanks for the clarification.
In that case, it ended up being the perfect decision for Sam.
Do you think he'll play in the NBA? I like his combination of shooting ability and basketball IQ.
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Do you think he'll play in the NBA? I like his combination of shooting ability and basketball IQ.
I could easily see him getting a shot (no pun intended) in the NBA. However, I have a hard time believing he'll stick anywhere.
Though the Novak comparison came up in another thread - and while I think Novak is a far better shooter, if Sam can make a roster in the "right situation" there's a chance he'll get paid.
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Sam will make a roster. He lacks quickness, which is a problem for him. But, overall he's got talent and one hell of a loss for MU. Hausergate was the beginning of the end for Woj, aina?
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Sam will make a roster. He lacks quickness, which is a problem for him. But, overall he's got talent and one hell of a loss for MU. Hausergate was the beginning of the end for Woj, aina?
Absolutely about Hausershima being the beginning of the end. Before mommy and daddy H helped their baby boys with the letter-writing mutiny, even some of the Nojos were starting to reluctantly give the coach props. Including even you IIRC.
But that scarred the program badly. Even though the Hausers obviously share in the blame, it ultimately was on Wojo because keeping good locker room chemistry is one of a coach’s main jobs. Leaders must take responsibility for terrible things that happen on their watch - I know you totally agree with me on that.
Sam definitely has a legit shot at the NBA. There are worse athletes on rosters right now. He can shoot, he’s long and he understands basketball. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s in the league for multiple seasons.
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1. Better coach
2. Better program
3. Better school
4. ACC regular season champion
5. ACC 1st team All Star
6. 4th in ACC POY balloting
7. A chance in the NCAA tournament
8. Good health after sitting out a year
I’m disappointed he left MU, but is there any doubt that it was the right decision? If he has a regret it’s that he didn’t make the move earlier.
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Happy for Sam. Really bummed he left, but in hindsight it was the perfect move for him personally. Had he stayed, he would have been done last year, and the tourney was cancelled*. As it works out, he sat out the year to get healthy, is on a decent team, and gets to dance this year.
* Assuming the letter didn't also contain the original strain of Covid.
That truly made me laugh out loud. You won the internet yesterday!
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Thanks for the clarification.
In that case, it ended up being the perfect decision for Sam.
Do you think he'll play in the NBA? I like his combination of shooting ability and basketball IQ.
Playing devil's advocate, did playing the year at Virginia help his draft status? If not, maybe the best decision for him would have been to stay at Marquette last year, and he might be in the now NBA making good money.
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I could easily see him getting a shot (no pun intended) in the NBA. However, I have a hard time believing he'll stick anywhere.
Though the Novak comparison came up in another thread - and while I think Novak is a far better shooter, if Sam can make a roster in the "right situation" there's a chance he'll get paid.
I mostly agree except I doubt he will even make a roster.
He is a very good shooter, but not elite by NBA standards. He won’t be able to guard any ‘3’ in the NBA. Good college player, but not NBA quality.
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I mostly agree except I doubt he will even make a roster.
He is a very good shooter, but not elite by NBA standards. He won’t be able to guard any ‘3’ in the NBA. Good college player, but not NBA quality.
He had a hard time creating space in the college game and when he did, as you wrote, he is simply a very good shooter and not elite. Unsure how he'll be able to create space in American professional basketball. Defenders at the G League level won't be troubled by him.
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Sam will make a roster. He lacks quickness, which is a problem for him. But, overall he's got talent and one hell of a loss for MU. Hausergate was the beginning of the end for Woj, aina?
I could see him making a training camp roster, but not sure he can stick in the NBA. He’s a great shooter but don’t know if he can guard anyone at the NBA level. Or if he can create his own shot.
Novak made a long career of it, but was a few inches taller and was always flirting with being out of the league.
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Sam will make a roster. He lacks quickness, which is a problem for him. But, overall he's got talent and one hell of a loss for MU. Hausergate was the beginning of the end for Woj, aina?
Yeah, it was a shame but that’s todays youth. Soft, soft, soft. Demand your coach change and then pout and leave when he doesn’t. Parents are probably lefties
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I could see him making a training camp roster, but not sure he can stick in the NBA. He’s a great shooter but don’t know if he can guard anyone at the NBA level. Or if he can create his own shot.
Novak made a long career of it, but was a few inches taller and was always flirting with being out of the league.
Novak's release was so much quicker than Sam's, too.
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1. Better coach
2. Better program
3. Better school
4. ACC regular season champion
5. ACC 1st team All Star
6. 4th in ACC POY balloting
7. A chance in the NCAA tournament
8. Good health after sitting out a year
I’m disappointed he left MU, but is there any doubt that it was the right decision? If he has a regret it’s that he didn’t make the move earlier.
The only doubt would be that he ended up a year further out from actually making money playing the sport. But maybe that just wasn't that important to him.
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The only doubt would be that he ended up a year further out from actually making money playing the sport. But maybe that just wasn't that important to him.
I'll just trust that Lenny knows Sam has no regrets, other than maybe making a move sooner.
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Wojo's mistake was not kicking them off the team immediately upon receipt of the letter.
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I'll just trust that Lenny knows Sam has no regrets, other than maybe making a move sooner.
Thank you for your trust! Winning it every day is paramount to me.
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Wojo's mistake was not kicking them off the team immediately upon receipt of the letter.
I disagree - Wojo's mistake was letting it get to a point that a letter seemed like a good idea.
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Forever going to disagree. The letter came at 23-4 with an all American point guard.
And a coach should back his team captain versus an unhappy freshman.
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Forever going to disagree. The letter came at 23-4 with an all American point guard.
And a coach should back his team captain versus an unhappy freshman.
We know for certain thats when the letter happened?? I hadn't heard that part(or followed closely enough).
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I disagree - Wojo's mistake was letting it get to a point that a letter seemed like a good idea.
I agree, should never have gotten to that point.
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Forever going to disagree. The letter came at 23-4 with an all American point guard.
And a coach should back his team captain versus an unhappy freshman.
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What’s your source that there even was a letter, let alone a date certain when it was delivered to Wojo?
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Someone should do a freedom of information request or something. Maybe in 20 years the letter ends up in the archives of the library.
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What’s your source that there even was a letter, let alone a date certain when it was delivered to Wojo?
Plenty of people here an elsewhere suggest something was written. Go back into the old topics and read if you would like.
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Someone should do a freedom of information request or something. Maybe in 20 years the letter ends up in the archives of the library.
I recently snuck into The Raynor and took a snap of Wojo's whiteboard preserved in the archives. It clearly shows the ball should bypass the Hauser Twins at all times, and Markus should climb the lonely mountain all by himself. The only problem with this strategy is Wojo doesn't stress bulgaring on defense and this plan required a steal.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0a/62/8d/0a628d1bd11a117252e1166ab3464495.jpg)
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I recently snuck into The Raynor and took a snap of Wojo's whiteboard preserved in the archives. It clearly shows the ball should bypass the Hauser Twins at all times, and Markus should climb the lonely mountain all by himself. The only problem with this strategy is Wojo doesn't stress bulgaring on defense and this plan required a steal.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0a/62/8d/0a628d1bd11a117252e1166ab3464495.jpg)
I was always under the impression he never replaced the whiteboard he punched through, so while he intended to have the Hausers on the whiteboard, they just happened to always be where the hole in the whiteboard was.
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If only some Scoopers liked our current players -- the ones who give everything they have to the team and are great representatives of Marquette -- as much as they continue to like those who ruined a promising season, quit the team and left the program reeling.
Disclaimer 1: I said "some," meaning more than one.
Disclaimer 2: As always, I am not putting all the blame on those who quit; it is the coach's job to keep his team operating on the same page, and therefore he gets most of the blame.
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I'm sure the letter begged for more shots for Joey. It's obvious how selfish the Hausers are. Anytime you transfer to UVA and MSU, it's abundantly clear that you are just a ME, ME, ME player. And Stevens Point has a long history of producing me first players.
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I'm sure the letter begged for more shots for Joey. It's obvious how selfish the Hausers are. Anytime you transfer to UVA and MSU, it's abundantly clear that you are just a ME, ME, ME player. And Stevens Point has a long history of producing me first players.
Right. As has been stated here, they wanted more shots for Ed Morrow, Theo John, Jamal Cain, Sacar Anim, and Greg Elliott.
The reason we aren't as good as we should be is because those are the caliber of player we have on the roster right now. So maybe Wojo knew having Markus shoot the ball a lot and those guys shoot the ball not a lot was the best way to win basketball games, and the Hausers didn't know what was best for the team.
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I'm sure the letter begged for more shots for Joey. It's obvious how selfish the Hausers are. Anytime you transfer to UVA and MSU, it's abundantly clear that you are just a ME, ME, ME player. And Stevens Point has a long history of producing me first players.
This was supposed to be in teal, right?
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Sam 21 5 and 3 in the Cavs win over Cuse in ACC Tournament.
Joey 4 1 and 1 in Spartans loss to Maryland in Big Ten Tournament
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For the 2nd year in a row, Joey has showed us who he is.
Maybe it's time to start believing him.
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Two years out of 3. Sat out last year.
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Two years out of 3. Sat out last year.
Nailing me on a technicality. I semi-deserve it.
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Hey, Joey had as many point as fouls. Leave him alone.
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Hey, Joey had as many point as fouls. Leave him alone.
In 13 total minutes played.
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Will he be back?
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Plenty of people here an elsewhere suggest something was written. Go back into the old topics and read if you would like.
Plenty of people “suggest” or even state as fact patently false things on Scoop. You did earlier today. Twice. I appreciated the apology when you were proven wrong. Tower has been beating this drum for almost 2 years without evidence (at least that he’s shared) that a letter even exists, let alone when it was delivered to Wojo. But it suits a narrative, so let’s pretend. LOL.
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Will he be back?
I'd guess yes. And I wouldn't be surprised if Joey has a decent 2021-22 season for MSU.
How many years of college eligibility does he have left?
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Plenty of people “suggest” or even state as fact patently false things on Scoop. You did earlier today. Twice. I appreciated the apology when you were proven wrong. Tower has been beating this drum for almost 2 years without evidence (at least that he’s shared) that a letter even exists, let alone when it was delivered to Wojo. But it suits a narrative, so let’s pretend. LOL.
I mean, hard to prove a letter between the Hauser family and Wojo Exists. But, VAScoopers are willing to recognize that Bennet would have handled the situation similarly:
https://247sports.com/college/virginia/Board/16/Contents/Hauser-Intel-on-why-they-are-transferring-131786918/
Reason for transferring was essentially an issue beteeen Markus and Joey Hauser. Markus challenged Joey (with sams permission) early in the year to be tougher. Joey didn’t respond well to that. Things degraded from there. Hauser parents sent letter to wojo about it, no one on team support that move. Markus tried to help relationship by deferring for a stretch of games but ultimately every possession ended up in his hands anyways. After Murray st Markus and Joey had a confrontation. Wojo didn’t step in to stop it, he said the players need to resolve. So when Markus returned Joey was gone. Sam ultimately sided with family(he and Markus are cool). Hausers approached a coach (word is Bennett) who said he would have handled it the same as wojo. Also said if Joey didn’t transfer, two players on the team would have left.
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That has been reported enough places that I accept it as likely. And the timing has also been mentioned many places. The only difference is that I blame an unhappy freshman.
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Board/104085/Contents/The-Letter-131282124/?Page=3
Another version saying essentially the same thing. Scroll down to the post of 'hackleft'
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Joey was gaslit his entire life to believe he was something he was not. He was naturally better than anyone he played ball against until he got to college. Where we all know he has been challenged. Admitting the reality to himself was not something his 18 year old mind was ready to deal with. Hopefully he has grown a bit since sitting out a year at MSU and having a similar year stat wise to his freshman year. One and done, indeed, Joey.
Either way, I am enjoying the schadenfreude from my home.
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I mean, hard to prove a letter between the Hauser family and Wojo Exists. But, VAScoopers are willing to recognize that Bennet would have handled the situation similarly:
https://247sports.com/college/virginia/Board/16/Contents/Hauser-Intel-on-why-they-are-transferring-131786918/
We have seen similar here, though that was an interesting read that provided further insight -- such as Sam giving his approval to Markus showing Joey tough love; the letter actually coming from Mommy and Daddy (no doubt with Joey's seal of approval); and Bennett saying he would have handled it the exact same way Wojo did.
Using 20/20 hindsight ...
For Marquette, obviously the best thing that could have happened would have been for Wojo to have been more forceful in pushing Markus to share the ball, for Joey to have been less sensitive about criticism, for Wojo (or Stan or whomever) to have been better about quelling the mutiny, and for Mommy and Daddy to have not enabled their baby boy so much.
Had all that happened, we might have finished 2018-19 with a BEast title, a higher seed and a couple of NCAA tourney wins; and even if a couple of role players quit, we would have been a very good team last season, though ultimately would have been sad by the way the coronavirus killed the NCAAs. Sam might be in the NBA right now; and Joey would have been expected to have been this season's star, with Garcia no doubt opting to go elsewhere.
The above also probably would have resulted in Wojo getting a big contract extension.
Knowing what we all know now, it's also hard to envision Joey as Marquette's No. 1 player, though if DJ and Lewis still arrived, he might have had a lot of confidence and played better for us than he has for MSU in the gauntlet that is the Big 14 this season.
The second-best outcome would have been for Joey to have left but Sam to have stayed. We still would have had a very good 2019-20 season that, like Dayton's and others' seasons, would have ended in COVID-19 disappointment. And we still would have gotten Garcia. Wojo would have been trashed for having lost Joey, and this season probably still would have sucked.
In the end, we would have been better off had Joey decided to go to MSU in the first place - although Wojo would have gotten absolutely killed on Scoop. "He couldn't even get the brother? I guess Sam must really hate it here. What a message that sends to recruits everywhere."
Hausershima ended up hurting almost everybody involved. Wojo the most; Joey for being exposed as a whiny little brat who actually seems to have digressed while playing for a coach far better than Wojo; Marquette fans; some of the supporting players who stuck around only to be proven to be weak down the stretch last season and this season. Even Markus, who scored a ton but who earned a reputation (among some, anyway) of being super-selfish (and even a "cancer," according to at least one Scooper).
Sacar benefited, getting a much bigger role, and Bailey benefited for awhile. But the biggest beneficiary was Sam, who had a year off to get completely healthy, who got to work with a great coach at a fine program, who got to play for the defending NCAA champions (pandemic year removed), and who got to be a standout for a team with Final Four aspirations (I don't think they'll get there, but they no doubt think they have a chance).
Despite all the evidence to the contrary, there will be Scoopers who will never be convinced that the Hausers were even 1% to blame for Hausershima. Even though Joey, now 2 years older, is still an immature, overrated player with helicopter parents.
The whole episode was a sad chapter in Marquette basketball history, and one of the sad parts is that quite a few supposed Marquette fans have decided to continue to root for and defend guys who quit on the program rather than those who stuck it out and worked their arses off to keep wearing blue and gold.
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Joey was gaslit his entire life to believe he was something he was not. He was naturally better than anyone he played ball against until he got to college. Where we all know he has been challenged. Admitting the reality to himself was not something his 18 year old mind was ready to deal with. Hopefully he has grown a bit since sitting out a year at MSU and having a similar year stat wise to his freshman year. One and done, indeed, Joey.
Either way, I am enjoying the schadenfreude from my home.
This is one of the biggest challenges facing high school athletes. By the time one is a high school upper classman, his or her talent is apparent. They may be much better than anyone around them on either team and the differential in quality means the offense and, maybe, defense, operates through the talented one. I get that in the conference where SPASH competes, there's probably a couple of really good players, but by and large, the talent is nowhere near what a player expects to see once they get to the BEast or the B10.
Both Messrs Joey Hauser and Henry Ellenson were unbelievable high school athletes. But they played such national basketball powers as Wausau West or Spooner on a weekly basis. Unless a coach is truly outstanding and keeps a player from becoming lazy, bad habits set in. From what I saw, Joey had really bad habits. High school coaches are loathe to deal with this and even college coaches have trouble managing talents of this magnitude. There were times watching Henry when I was screaming at Wojo to sit him down. Henry was reacting to his critics who complained he couldn't do "this or that," rather than becoming part of a team.
Yes, I know, there is AAU ball and all, where the talent is much better. But as bad habits set in, they are hard to break.
I often think of Michael Jordan. He and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar were the two smartest basketball players I ever saw. What made Jordan special is that while he knew he had extraordinary talent, he had the best work ethic I ever saw. That's what made Michael special. In the glimpses I had of Joey and Henry, I didn't think either one of them had the work ethic. Surprisingly, I thought Sam did.
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So another couple of pages of speculation and name calling with no evidence - par for the course.
IMO everyone truly involved in the story - Wojo, Sam, Joey, Markus, the parents, Izzo and Bennett - have comported themselves with class and dignity.
Scoop? (And I include myself) - not so much.
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So another couple of pages of speculation and name calling with no evidence - par for the course.
IMO everyone truly involved in the story - Wojo, Sam, Joey, Markus, the parents, Izzo and Bennett - have comported themselves with class and dignity.
Scoop? (And I include myself) - not so much.
Do you expect somebody on Scoop to produce a photo copy of the letter (if there is one)? What exactly are you complaining about?
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Do you expect somebody on Scoop to produce a photo copy of the letter (if there is one)? What exactly are you complaining about?
That idiots like you make up sh@tand pass it off as fact. Clear?
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So another couple of pages of speculation and name calling with no evidence - par for the course.
IMO everyone truly involved in the story - Wojo, Sam, Joey, Markus, the parents, Izzo and Bennett - have comported themselves with class and dignity.
Scoop? (And I include myself) - not so much.
Why did you put Sam and Joey's name in front of Markus? Clearly you hate Marquette.
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That idiots like you make up sh@tand pass it off as fact. Clear?
Ok, let's take the facts that we know. Two brothers really wanted to play together in college. They both decide to transfer, have the opportunity to play together for a top 25 program, but then end up at 2 separate schools.
So maybe they didn't love playing together that much. And maybe a short guard that could score in bunches was not the problem. Yes I know, neither of those two statements are facts, so people shouldn't spew them either.
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Lenny, make up a different narrative that fits your observations and the demonstrable facts and pass it off as fact.
The Hausers left. After Markus announced he was staying. Everyone else stayed. There was an instagram post showing a happy looking team finishing their workout and storming Wojo's office to mob him a couple of days later.
There was a lot of internet speculation. This included a number of stories about a letter. You choose to not believe the letter narrative.
Now, the Sparty message board version was that the rift started because Joey didn't appreciate Markus' piety in his team leadership. I was asked about this a few times by Spartan friends.
So what do you choose to believe? And why? I know that my opinion has been formed by the convergence of narratives. What is the basis for your dismissal of the letter?
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The Hausers should have used power point
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Ok, let's take the facts that we know. Two brothers really wanted to play together in college. They both decide to transfer, have the opportunity to play together for a top 25 program, but then end up at 2 separate schools.
So maybe they didn't love playing together that much. And maybe a short guard that could score in bunches was not the problem. Yes I know, neither of those two statements are facts, so people shouldn't spew them either.
Rocky,
Expressing an opinion (and saying as much) based on facts we know is fine - it’s what Scoop is all about. The facts we know are that Sam and Joey left. It’s also a given that they were unhappy - happy players don’t transfer. I might not share your opinion but it’s certainly plausible. Weaving a narrative (logical IMO or not) based on facts is totally fair.
IOW, if one wants to say “Sam and Joey left (fact) and anyone who leaves MU is a “traitor”, that’s fine. I’d disagree, but it’s fine. What’s not fine? Saying Sam, Joey and their parents are (fill in the blank with whatever insult you choose) - and as proof I’ll cite the timing and the contents of a letter they wrote to Wojo - without even being able to offer proof that such a letter was written.
I should never use a word like “idiot”. I have had nothing but unpleasant back and forths with ATL but that’s no excuse. For that I apologize.
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Rocky,
Expressing an opinion (and saying as much) based on facts we know is fine - it’s what Scoop is all about. The facts we know are that Sam and Joey left. It’s also a given that they were unhappy - happy players don’t transfer. I might not share your opinion but it’s certainly plausible. Weaving a narrative logical IMO or not) based on facts is totally fair.
IOW, if one wants to say “Sam and Joey left (fact) and anyone who leaves MU is a “traitor”, that’s fine. I’d disagree, but it’s fine. What’s not fine? Saying Sam, Joey and their parents are (fill in the blank with whatever insult you choose) - and as proof I’ll cite the timing and the contents of a letter they wrote to Wojo - without even being able to offer proof that such a letter was written.
I should never use a word like “idiot”. I have had nothing but unpleasant back and forths with ATL but that’s no excuse. For that I apologize.
There are more than a few people who have had negative interactions with Mrs. Hauser. Some in Madison, some in Milwaukee. Funny that we give them a pass, but we have fans that lay into Carton's mom, Blue's family and Maymon's dad.
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Lenny, make up a different narrative that fits your observations and the demonstrable facts and pass it off as fact.
The Hausers left. After Markus announced he was staying. Everyone else stayed. There was an instagram post showing a happy looking team finishing their workout and storming Wojo's office to mob him a couple of days later.
There was a lot of internet speculation. This included a number of stories about a letter. You choose to not believe the letter narrative.
Now, the Sparty message board version was that the rift started because Joey didn't appreciate Markus' piety in his team leadership. I was asked about this a few times by Spartan friends.
So what do you choose to believe? And why? I know that my opinion has been formed by the convergence of narratives. What is the basis for your dismissal of the letter?
Tower
Joey didn’t like Markus’s “piety”, Joey is a whiny baby, Sam and Joey left hunting more shots, Sam and Joey preferred a team concept to a one man show, their parents made them do it - all speculation, pick the one that makes you feel best and seems most logical. Fair.
Not fair? Using a “fact” to bolster you argument/narrative that isn’t a fact at all. You know when the letter was written, you know the letter’s contents and you know the authors - but you don’t even know if such a letter ever existed.
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Lenny-
To me, whether or not there was a “letter” doesn’t matter. It’s just a symbol, something fun to talk about.
Fans say stuff like “traitor” and “quitter.” And those words are nice compared to what a guy like Floppy McNutpuncher gets called. Don’t fixate on them. (Or do; you can do whatever you want.)
That Joey is 3+ years into his college experience and is with a blueblood program and a Hall of Fame coach but is STILL a disappointment - arguably the biggest disappointment in college hoops this season - makes me think that his problems at Marquette might have been more about Joey than about Marquette, Wojo, Markus or anyone else.
Sam was caught between a rock and a hard place. He was a Warrior.
All of the above are my opinions. I happen to think they are rooted in logic and based on the facts we know. Have a good one.
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This was never a Hausers v. Howard thing to me. It's not Markus' fault. It's how he was coached.
Markus' usage was so high that there was no counter move when he didn't have it. We've seen how detrimental that was to the other guys development this year. We've also seen how many flaws in the offense his flamethrower nights covered up.
You can blame Joey, blame the parents, all you want. But it came down, yet again, to the head coach not having a plan B.
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This was never a Hausers v. Howard thing to me. It's not Markus' fault. It's how he was coached.
Markus' usage was so high that there was no counter move when he didn't have it. We've seen how detrimental that was to the other guys development this year. We've also seen how many flaws in the offense his flamethrower nights covered up.
You can blame Joey, blame the parents, all you want. But it came down, yet again, to the head coach not having a plan B.
Yes. What you say about the coach is true IMHO.
However, I have a pretty strong belief that if Joey had selected MSU from the beginning, Sam Hauser would have happily finished his career at Marquette with his teammate, classmate and friend Markus Howard.
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Roommate.
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Roommate.
That too.
There is one thread woven throughout Hausershima, and that's the Markus-Joey dynamic. Sam and Markus were fine, probably more than just fine.
I mean, all folks have to do is think about it.
Sam had already been at Marquette for two years. If the Hauser family had even a scintilla of doubt about Markus and/or Wojo, would they have let their baby go there, too?
Wojo could have and should have handled things better. He was the adult, and managing egos is one of the most important jobs a coach has. It's why I put the lion's share of responsibility of Hausershima on Wojo.
But all was pretty darn good until a certain person joined the team as an active player. And that same person is now having problems finding his role on an entirely different team, coached by a Hall of Famer.
The dots are pretty easy to connect.
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Virginia has pulled out of the ACC tournament due to Covid.
Status for the Big Dance is uncertain.
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Virginia has pulled out of the ACC tournament due to Covid.
Status for the Big Dance is uncertain.
That would suck. I hope they can play, and I hope other teams avoid this.
This would have been a very good season to skip conference tournaments.
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This would have been a very good season to skip conference tournaments.
Looks like MU was one step ahead of everyone. They didn't show up.
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That idiots like you make up sh@tand pass it off as fact. Clear?
Nice name calling...did you forget to take your medicines or something? You are the one asking for evidence in multiple posts. What evidence would suffice for you? Seems like a simple question.
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Tower
Joey didn’t like Markus’s “piety”, Joey is a whiny baby, Sam and Joey left hunting more shots, Sam and Joey preferred a team concept to a one man show, their parents made them do it - all speculation, pick the one that makes you feel best and seems most logical. Fair.
Not fair? Using a “fact” to bolster you argument/narrative that isn’t a fact at all. You know when the letter was written, you know the letter’s contents and you know the authors - but you don’t even know if such a letter ever existed.
There is someone who regularly posts here, who posted in another forum details about who wrote the letter, who signed the letter and when it was delivered to Wojo. I will not rehash it because it was posted in a private forum. If that poster wishes to share what he knows, that is up to him.
But the short of it is that there was indeed a letter written by the Brothers Hauser.
I don't know what you want for evidence, but many people have been told what happened. Chose to believe it or not.
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Lenny, my mind is not closed on this. I look forward with avid anticipation to anything you might say publicly or privately that would significantly alter my perception.
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There is someone who regularly posts here, who posted in another forum details about who wrote the letter, who signed the letter and when it was delivered to Wojo. I will not rehash it because it was posted in a private forum. If that poster wishes to share what he knows, that is up to him.
But the short of it is that there was indeed a letter written by the Brothers Hauser.
I don't know what you want for evidence, but many people have been told what happened. Chose to believe it or not.
I have been told the same as what you wrote here. I can also say I’ve been told Sam was not playing last season, too, even if he had stayed in Milwaukee.
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Seems like a situation where nothing short of first-person, viewed-with-their-own-eyes evidence is enough.
Sort of like those who don't believe we landed on the moon.
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There is someone who regularly posts here, who posted in another forum details about who wrote the letter, who signed the letter and when it was delivered to Wojo. I will not rehash it because it was posted in a private forum. If that poster wishes to share what he knows, that is up to him.
But the short of it is that there was indeed a letter written by the Brothers Hauser.
I don't know what you want for evidence, but many people have been told what happened. Chose to believe it or not.
“Somebody who regularly posts here” has “privately” said that he heard a) a letter was written, b) who signed the letter and c) when it was delivered to Wojo. Since you don’t include what was in the letter I’ll assume the “regular poster” didn’t have that information - which seems really curious.
You can call that proof, you can conclude that a piece of hearsay means that “the short of it is that there was indeed a letter written by the brothers Hauser”. Just as you can conclude that every piece of hearsay written by “regular posters” claiming inside information on Scoop = truth. I disagree.
What has Wojo said? What about his staff? How about Markus? The rest of the ream? Sam? Joey? Dave and Stephanie? Ben Steele or any other journalist covering the team? How easy would it be to “anonymously” leak the information (from any of the principals) to him/them in order to bolster their position? Yet from all of them - crickets.
I don’t know whether a letter was written or not. Neither do you. You believe it based on what someone told you. That’s OK. First hand hearsay is enough for you. Second hand hearsay isn’t enough for me.
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Seems like a situation where nothing short of first-person, viewed-with-their-own-eyes evidence is enough.
Sort of like those who don't believe we landed on the moon.
Right. The Hauser letter and the moon landing are supported by similar evidence. A Scooper PMed a couple of his buddies and said “Guess what? We just landed on the freakin’ moon!”. The rest is history.
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Lenny, my mind is not closed on this. I look forward with avid anticipation to anything you might say publicly or privately that would significantly alter my perception.
Tower
I’ll PM later today.
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Right. The Hauser letter and the moon landing are supported by similar evidence. A Scooper PMed a couple of his buddies and said “Guess what? We just landed on the freakin’ moon!”. The rest is history.
It took many decades, but you finally found your hill. :)
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“Somebody who regularly posts here” has “privately” said that he heard a) a letter was written, b) who signed the letter and c) when it was delivered to Wojo. Since you don’t include what was in the letter I’ll assume the “regular poster” didn’t have that information - which seems really curious.
You can call that proof, you can conclude that a piece of hearsay means that “the short of it is that there was indeed a letter written by the brothers Hauser”. Just as you can conclude that every piece of hearsay written by “regular posters” claiming inside information on Scoop = truth. I disagree.
What has Wojo said? What about his staff? How about Markus? The rest of the ream? Sam? Joey? Dave and Stephanie? Ben Steele or any other journalist covering the team? How easy would it be to “anonymously” leak the information (from any of the principals) to him/them in order to bolster their position? Yet from all of them - crickets.
I don’t know whether a letter was written or not. Neither do you. You believe it based on what someone told you. That’s OK. First hand hearsay is enough for you. Second hand hearsay isn’t enough for me.
That post (which was made on IWB's private board) echoes what has been said elsewhere.
This isn't a court of law so yes, I can believe a post made by a reputable poster is accurate and be perfectly comfortable with that decision.
Honestly, why are you so fired about this? The Hausers wrote a letter. That points to a lack of an environment in which open communication is welcome. That's on Wojo. Since I don't know what the letter said (although I have been given an idea), I can't really knock the Hausers for writing it. Unless I just want to be snarky about it - which is just message board fun.
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I can also say I’ve been told Sam was not playing last season, too, even if he had stayed in Milwaukee.
Not sure what you mean here, Unk. He was gonna take an injury redshirt?
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Not sure what you mean here, Unk. He was gonna take an injury redshirt?
Yes
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I know from a very reputable source that the letter was written ... It was either written by, or very heavy influenced by the Parents ... but one caveat not really expressed in this thread, it was also known that 2 maybe 3 players would have left if the Hausers returned... Hence the "Happy Team" pic and subsequent, happy with pic with Wojo the office ! ! !
Just sayin' ! ! ! 8-)
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That was the rumor at the time.
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I heard the letter was strongly worded.
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Right. The Hauser letter and the moon landing are supported by similar evidence. A Scooper PMed a couple of his buddies and said “Guess what? We just landed on the freakin’ moon!”. The rest is history.
I didn't say the levels of evidence surrounding each event was the same. Please don't put words in my mouth.
What I did say was that they evidence/proof you require to believe this is similar to what some require to believe we landed on the moon.
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I didn't say the levels of evidence surrounding each event was the same. Please don't put words in my mouth.
What I did say was that they evidence/proof you require to believe this is similar to what some require to believe we landed on the moon.
Actually, what Lenny’s asking for would be the equivalent of Neil Armstrong saying, “I walked on the moon.” So, if Sam or Joey came out and said, “We wrote a letter asking Wojo to reign in Markus,” then there you’d have it.
But we don’t have that. No one who was directly involved with the situation has gone on the record to talk about why the Hausers transferred. The Hausers themselves have been asked this by the media and they won’t say anything (seems like they got some good advice and listened to it). After their transfer, Wojo lied, he flat out lied, and said he was surprised it happened. So which was it? They wrote the letter, and Wojo is a liar for saying he was surprised they transferred? Or they didn’t write one, and he was legitimately surprised?
Maybe someday we’ll learn the truth, though I kind of doubt it. But that hasn’t stopped some on this board from spewing vitriol in the Hausers’ direction every time one of them has a subpar game, with all that hate being based on nothing but rumor and innuendo.
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Actually, what Lenny’s asking for would be the equivalent of Neil Armstrong saying, “I walked on the moon.” So, if Sam or Joey came out and said, “We wrote a letter asking Wojo to reign in Markus,” then there you’d have it.
But we don’t have that. No one who was directly involved with the situation has gone on the record to talk about why the Hausers transferred. The Hausers themselves have been asked this by the media and they won’t say anything (seems like they got some good advice and listened to it). After their transfer, Wojo lied, he flat out lied, and said he was surprised it happened. So which was it? They wrote the letter, and Wojo is a liar for saying he was surprised they transferred? Or they didn’t write one, and he was legitimately surprised?
Maybe someday we’ll learn the truth, though I kind of doubt it. But that hasn’t stopped some on this board from spewing vitriol in the Hausers’ direction every time one of them has a subpar game, with all that hate being based on nothing but rumor and innuendo.
That’s not what Wojo said. Here is the quote from his press conference:
“If you would have asked me the day after our season ended if they wouldn't be here next year, I would tell you I would be very, very surprised for somebody to say that. But being in this business long enough, I guess nothing should surprise you.”
So unless you know his thoughts the day after the season ended you have no idea if he lied.
You probably should stop making stuff up.
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That’s not what Wojo said. Here is the quote from his press conference:
“If you would have asked me the day after our season ended if they wouldn't be here next year, I would tell you I would be very, very surprised for somebody to say that. But being in this business long enough, I guess nothing should surprise you.”
So unless you know his thoughts the day after the season ended you have no idea if he lied.
You probably should stop making stuff up.
So he would be “very, very surprised” they wouldn’t be here next year, despite the fact that they wrote him a letter and tried to start a mutiny.
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Sort of like those who don't believe we landed on the moon.
i have a friend who is a big shot at NASA who tells me that Kubrick directed the staged filming. Indeed, Kubrick placed plenty of details in the shining to confirm this and tease everybody.
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(https://static2.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/the-shining-danny-apollo-11-sweater.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=370&dpr=1.5)
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So he would be “very, very surprised” they wouldn’t be here next year, despite the fact that they wrote him a letter and tried to start a mutiny.
The day after the season ended, he may have thought it wasn't that big of an issue. He clearly found out later it was.
Posting to defend the honor of the Hausers while simultaneously trashing the honor of someone else without evidence is something.
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Yep, we must stop "hating" the Hausers. It's OK for most Scoopers to "hate" Wojo, though. And for some to "hate" Markus. And Koby. And Theo. And Torrence. And Sacar. And Katin. And Derrick. And Lockett. And Vander. Etc, etc, etc.
It's a fan board. We love Marquette hoops. Whether one thinks the responsibility the Hausers (including Mommy and Daddy) bear is 0.5% or 99.5% or somewhere in between, they bear some responsibility for the ruination of a very promising season and the decline of the program. So there is gonna be at least a little "hate" from some fans. That's how we roll.
Sarcastic remarks about the letter, or about Sam missing potential winning shots for Virginia, or about Joey committing as many turnovers as points for a Michigan State team that had been great for decades but suddenly sucks with him on it ... that's classic fan-board stuff.
Unless they are personal friends of the Hausers, I'm not sure why any Scoopers would fervently defend a family that quit on our alma mater.
It cracks me up that some of the same folks who are going with the (false IMHO) narrative that our players quit against Georgetown are defending two guys who literally quit on Marquette. Or that some Scoopers think it's wrong to "hate" two guys who left Marquette in their rearview mirrors 2 years ago but think it's OK to "hate" the athletes who busted their arses for Marquette in this most difficult of seasons.
Personally, I'll always appreciate Sam. He worked hard for 3 years, he and Markus were the main reasons Marquette became relevant again for a couple seasons, and he gave us a few incredible moments. The shot against Creighton will be one of my favorite Marquette memories until the day I no longer can remember stuff anymore. I might be in the minority here, but I think Sam will have an NBA career, and I'll be rooting for him if he does.
Joey? The Marquette memories I'll have of him are of the collapse down the stretch, the turnovers, Ja posterizing him, and mostly the way he exited.
He had roughly as many good games for Marquette as Katin Reinhardt had ... and Katin actually got better as the season progressed rather than becoming a liability.
Katin -- whom many Marquette fans "hated" as he struggled to find his role early on -- also never tried to lead a mutiny.
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The weird part of Scoop.
Love: Joey Hauser, Sam Hauser and the Hauser parents
Hate: Markus Howard, Kaitlin Reinhardt, Koby McEwen
Wondering if this is more of an image issue then anything else.
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The day after the season ended, he may have thought it wasn't that big of an issue. He clearly found out later it was.
Posting to defend the honor of the Hausers while simultaneously trashing the honor of someone else without evidence is something.
So the Hausers led a mutiny when the team was 23-4. It ruined a glorious season. Dissension was so bad that if the Hausers stayed at MU multiple other players were going to leave. But the day after the season, after the mutiny and after the collapse, Wojo thought it wasn’t that big of an issue. Sounds logical.
BTW, I’m not suggesting Wojo was lying. I think Wojo probably thought the whole issue was a minor one that had been addressed and wouldn’t have any consequences - which flies in the face of the Scoop narrative.
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So the Hausers led a mutiny when the team was 23-4. It ruined a glorious season. Dissension was so bad that if the Hausers stayed at MU multiple other players were going to leave. But the day after the season, after the mutiny and after the collapse, Wojo thought it wasn’t that big of an issue. Sounds logical.
You know Wojo thought it wasn’t a big issue?
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You know Wojo thought it wasn’t a big issue?
Well, I know that he didn’t think that in spite of a “mutiny” which ruined the season and was going to cause a bunch of guys to transfer if the Hausers stayed - he was surprised Sam and Joey left. If the mutiny was true, he shouldn’t have been surprised- he should have demanded it.
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So the Hausers led a mutiny when the team was 23-4. It ruined a glorious season. Dissension was so bad that if the Hausers stayed at MU multiple other players were going to leave. But the day after the season, after the mutiny and after the collapse, Wojo thought it wasn’t that big of an issue. Sounds logical.
BTW, I’m not suggesting Wojo was lying. I think Wojo probably thought the whole issue was a minor one that had been addressed and wouldn’t have any consequences - which flies in the face of the Scoop narrative.
WRT your second paragraph, either a minor issue or one that he would be able to resolve in the off season.
Look, I think the whole thing is damning of Wojo. Communication was a problem. His perception of the locker room was a problem. I am hardly absolving him of responsibility. I just think claiming he lied, when people have no evidence that is the case, is dumb.
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I ended up at on a group email with a bunch of 70's alums. I have met one of them out here several times and he always sends out game time reminders and TV location.
One of the alums in the group has been going to the end of the season team banquet forever. He apparently talked to the Hauser parents and they somehow inferred that things were going to be better next season without Marcus. He said he was confused because despite rumors heard no official announcement of Marcus going pro and thought nothing of it until the Hauser's announced their transfer. (Along those lines.)
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Lenny, we are closer on this than it appears. I think he knew there was issue, letter or no. I think he thought he could manage it, that it was just another inevitable conflict that could be worked out. I think he mis-read the level of antipathy. There are rumors of a yelling match and him-or-us ultimatums in the days after the season. I think that until they actually pulled the trigger, he thought that it could be managed. Again, underestimated the level of resentment.
And because Wojo is not as nimble a recruiter as Buzz, he wasn't able to fill the holes. He tried with Jayce, but Morrow simply wasn't a 3. A year later, he landed Garcia and Lewis.
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I ended up at on a group email with a bunch of 70's alums. I have met one of them out here several times and he always sends out game time reminders and TV location.
One of the alums in the group has been going to the end of the season team banquet forever. He apparently talked to the Hauser parents and they somehow inferred that things were going to be better next season without Marcus. He said he was confused because despite rumors heard no official announcement of Marcus going pro and thought nothing of it until the Hauser's announced their transfer. (Along those lines.)
But I've been assured it wasn't about Markus.
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The weird part of Scoop.
Love: Joey Hauser, Sam Hauser and the Hauser parents
Hate: Markus Howard, Kaitlin Reinhardt, Koby McEwen
Wondering if this is more of an image issue then anything else.
When did Reinhardt change genders?
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Unless they are personal friends of the Hausers, I'm not sure why any Scoopers would fervently defend a family that quit on our alma mater.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
It's not about the Hausers. It's about portraying Wojo in the worst light possible. And you can't do that if you acknowledge that he isn't the only one who bears responsibility for Hausershima.
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Lenny, we are closer on this than it appears. I think he knew there was issue, letter or no. I think he thought he could manage it, that it was just another inevitable conflict that could be worked out. I think he mis-read the level of antipathy. There are rumors of a yelling match and him-or-us ultimatums in the days after the season. I think that until they actually pulled the trigger, he thought that it could be managed. Again, underestimated the level of resentment.
And because Wojo is not as nimble a recruiter as Buzz, he wasn't able to fill the holes. He tried with Jayce, but Morrow simply wasn't a 3. A year later, he landed Garcia and Lewis.
I really like Jayce
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I think the reason some of us don't "hate" the Hausers is that we broadly agree with their complaint. Markus was an immense talent, but his usage rate was too high. A more balanced scoring attack would've been ideal. We had a first team All American last year....and finished 8-10 in conference. Seriously, how often does a team with a first team AA finish under .500 in conference? What a waste.
Depending on what the letter said, I have no issue with them writing it. If it said "Hey Wojo you suck, double our shots or we quit" then sure, slag away. If it said "hey, a more balanced scoring attack would be better" then who am I to criticize? I agree with that.
For seven years we've heard a litany of excuses as to why Wojo hasn't succeeded here. People blame the Hausers for the collapse two years ago when we lost 6 of 7....but then the exact same thing happened last year. Maybe the Hausers were whiny babies, but the responsibility ultimately lies with Wojo.
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I think the reason some of us don't "hate" the Hausers is that we broadly agree with their complaint. Markus was an immense talent, but his usage rate was too high. A more balanced scoring attack would've been ideal. We had a first team All American last year....and finished 8-10 in conference. Seriously, how often does a team with a first team AA finish under .500 in conference? What a waste.
Depending on what the letter said, I have no issue with them writing it. If it said "Hey Wojo you suck, double our shots or we quit" then sure, slag away. If it said "hey, a more balanced scoring attack would be better" then who am I to criticize? I agree with that.
For seven years we've heard a litany of excuses as to why Wojo hasn't succeeded here. People blame the Hausers for the collapse two years ago when we lost 6 of 7....but then the exact same thing happened last year. Maybe the Hausers were whiny babies, but the responsibility ultimately lies with Wojo.
Usage is certainly a topic that can be argued in depth but the Hausers still had chances. And they failed. Often.
The last two weeks of that season, and it's subsequent collapse, responsibility was shared and the Hausers were half the problem.
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Usage is certainly a topic that can be argued in depth but the Hausers still had chances. And they failed. Often.
The last two weeks of that season, and it's subsequent collapse, responsibility was shared and the Hausers were half the problem.
And I've got no problem calling out anyone who played poorly during that stretch, Hausers included. The second straight collapse showed that there were problems bigger than them since they'd already left.
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When did Reinhardt change genders?
Got a problem with that?
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And I've got no problem calling out anyone who played poorly during that stretch, Hausers included. The second straight collapse showed that there were problems bigger than them since they'd already left.
The problem in that stretch is they played the tri-conference champions (played them all tough) and lost two one possession games in addition to that. Those are the breaks.
They weren't getting destroyed every night. They weren't totally outclassed. Still comfortably an NCAA team. They played tough competition and lost tight games. Also didn't help that the second option on the team wasn't exactly a consistent player.
Two collapses in a row makes it easy for people to only blame one guy since the personnel changed. That's short-sighted. It also then allows for some to claim Wojo "learned" since they finished this season without a collapse. But is that the case?
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The problem in that stretch is they played the tri-conference champions (played them all tough) and lost two one possession games in addition to that. Those are the breaks.
They weren't getting destroyed every night. They weren't totally outclassed. Still comfortably an NCAA team. They played tough competition and lost tight games. Also didn't help that the second option on the team wasn't exactly a consistent player.
Two collapses in a row makes it easy for people to only blame one guy since the personnel changed. That's short-sighted. It also then allows for some to claim Wojo "learned" since they finished this season without a collapse. But is that the case?
I don't think after a seven year body of work that any judgement of Wojo is short-sighted.
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I don't think after a seven year body of work that any judgement of Wojo is short-sighted.
Ah. Our conversation was based on the two years in a row collapsing issue. But now you've stopped that and changed the subject. No worries.
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Ah. Our conversation was based on the two years in a row collapsing issue. But now you've stopped that and changed the subject. No worries.
We were debating the back to back collapses. I used the other five years to back up my point.
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Ah. Our conversation was based on the two years in a row collapsing issue. But now you've stopped that and changed the subject. No worries.
Marquette had a 1-6 streak this year. Congrats that the end of the season consisted of DePaul, butler, and xavier?
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Joey Hauser, still a massive defensive liability.
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Not watching, but Hauser is trending on the Twitter, and not in a good way.
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His season has been heading in this direction for several weeks. Disappointed, because I like Sparty. Not surprised.
I had hoped a couple of years under Izzo would help his maturity, attitude, and defense.
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Joey 9 and 3 in overtime loss to UCLA. Spartans led by 11 at half but had a defensive collapse in the second half .
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The defensive collapse was UCLA going straight at Joey when he was on the floor. Not the first team to do that.
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The defensive collapse was UCLA going straight at Joey when he was on the floor. Not the first team to do that.
I am clearly not a fan of Joey. I didn't get to watch the game... but how did he end up deciding the game when he played 16 minutes?
Was it really that bad every time he was in, or were you just joking?
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I am clearly not a fan of Joey. I didn't get to watch the game... but how did he end up deciding the game when he played 16 minutes?
Was it really that bad every time he was in, or were you just joking?
UCLA definitely went at him. I'm talking NBA-style clearouts so Jacquez could go at him one-on-one.
But no, Joey didn't decide the game. He didn't help, but I'd say there were bigger culprits, the biggest being Izzo's coaching.
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UCLA definitely went at him. I'm talking NBA-style clearouts so Jacquez could go at him one-on-one.
But no, Joey didn't decide the game. He didn't help, but I'd say there were bigger culprits, the biggest being Izzo's coaching.
Wojo to MSU.
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Joey had a nice 4-minute stretch in the first half - hit a 3, nice putback, short jumper, couple of good passes.
He was a disaster in the second half. Hesitant to shoot, bricked a wide-open 3, and as everybody who watched it knows he defended like a rusty gate. If Joey isn't hitting shots, you simply can't play him ... so Izzo finally didn't.
Quick tourney appearance for Hauser the Younger. But at least he got away from Milwaukee to the loving environment in East Lansing.
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Oh boy.
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Well the good news for the Hausers this tournament is that neither one had someone’s nut-sack in their face.
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Hahahahahhaha
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Karma
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Fair to say at this point the Hauser boys' decision to transfer is working out for absolutely no one.
Bump.
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I guess Joey’s nice 4 minute stretch was better than Sam’s entire game.
No wonder we collapsed a couple years ago.
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Hausers 0-5 in NCAA tournament?
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3 schools, 2 great coaches, 0 tournament wins
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4-1 in not getting teabagged in tournament games.
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Sam ends his career with a loss to Ohio.
All the Best to him in his next basketball journey.
I am sure our new coach would welcome him back to MU if he wants a graduate degree
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4-1 in not getting teabagged in tournament games.
That's not bad, but poor Joey is only .500.
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That's not bad, but poor Joey is only .500.
I don’t know. That’s one where if you aren’t 1.000 you’ve lost.
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I guess Joey’s nice 4 minute stretch was better than Sam’s entire game.
No wonder we collapsed a couple years ago.
It was a complete team collapse, that's for sure. Markus, Sam and Joey all struggled mightily.
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Well the good news for the Hausers this tournament is that neither one had someone’s nut-sack in their face.
Y da name change? Fluffy BM wuz somethin' lotz of us kould relate two, aina?
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Joey got an award from the Spartan Media
https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/lists/michigan-state-basketball-2020-21-end-of-season-awards/
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Just found this thread. Wow. We’ve got some seriously obsessed weirdos on Scoop... they’ve been gone 2 years - do we really need an ongoing 18 page thread litigating and relitigating? So strange!
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We’ve got some seriously obsessed weirdos on Scoop... they’ve been gone 2 years -
You'll fit in well here then:
Deonte Burton leaves and becomes a top player on a Top 15 team
Duane Wilson leaves and becomes a top player on a Top 15 team
Joey is the best player on a Top 15 team
Sam is a top player on a ranked team
I’m the idiot... ha. The guy cannot utilize talent. Imagine All American Markus Howard being coached by someone else.
Stalking Wilson and Burton for all those years.
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Just found this thread. Wow. We’ve got some seriously obsessed weirdos on Scoop... they’ve been gone 2 years - do we really need an ongoing 18 page thread litigating and relitigating? So strange!
This thread is serious archival research. Will be donated to Raynor at some point in the future.
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Just found this thread. Wow. We’ve got some seriously obsessed weirdos on Scoop... they’ve been gone 2 years - do we really need an ongoing 18 page thread litigating and relitigating? So strange!
Remember when you called MSU a top 15 team?? HAHAHAHa
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Remember when you called MSU a top 15 team?? HAHAHAHa
They were a top 15 team at the time of that post...? Rankings change, right?
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They were a top 15 team at the time of that post...? Rankings change, right?
But they weren't. Hence why I called you out then. And proceeded to tell you they would plummet.
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This thread is serious archival research. Will be donated to Raynor at some point in the future.
I hear the Scoop mods are going to auction off this thread as an NFT and use the windfall to eliminate our subscription fees.
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Joey got a D+ report card from one of the media sites focused on The Spartans
https://www.theonlycolors.com/2021/3/30/22358647/michigan-state-spartans-mens-basketball-2020-2021-report-card-joey-hauser
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Joey got a D+ report card from one of the media sites focused on The Spartans
https://www.theonlycolors.com/2021/3/30/22358647/michigan-state-spartans-mens-basketball-2020-2021-report-card-joey-hauser
.....the jilted lover's diary gets another entry
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Joey got a D+ report card from one of the media sites focused on The Spartans
https://www.theonlycolors.com/2021/3/30/22358647/michigan-state-spartans-mens-basketball-2020-2021-report-card-joey-hauser
Some of the comments were brutal.
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Some of the comments were brutal.
Real criticism, though. They’re right, it’s up to Joey what he wants to be. He’s uber-talented
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Real criticism, though. They’re right, it’s up to Joey what he wants to be. He’s uber-talented
He has offensive talent. A player like him has to be "on" offensively every game, because he gives back so much on the other end of the court. We saw it here, but Wojo had no choice but to keep putting him out there. At MSU, Izzo won't accept it unless Joey is truly an offensive difference-maker.
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Sam discusses his plans to go pro
https://www.wsaw.com/2021/03/26/sam-hauser-discusses-decision-to-turn-pro-with-newschannel-7/
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Sam discusses his plans to go pro
https://www.wsaw.com/2021/03/26/sam-hauser-discusses-decision-to-turn-pro-with-newschannel-7/
Congrats Herm on your rising today.
In other news, I will be discussing my plans to date Charlize Theron.
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I wonder if Sam bought a subscription to Babbel.com to start boning up on Hebrew or Russian?
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Sam's twit said:
I can’t thank Coach Bennett and the rest of his staff for believing in me.
That's pretty hilarious. Sorry, coach ... I can't thank you!
I bet he plays some in the NBA, but if he plays most or all of his career overseas he still can make good coin.
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Sam's twit said:
I can’t thank Coach Bennett and the rest of his staff for believing in me.
That's pretty hilarious. Sorry, coach ... I can't thank you!
You'd think after five years of college he would have had to pass a communications class at some point.
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You'd think after five years of college he would have had to pass a communications class at some point.
It was an accidentally omitted word. We've all done that, had typos, etc, over the years. Spend a half-hour reading Scoop and you'll see it a zillion times (present company included).
But that doesn't mean Sam's twit isn't poke-fun-able.
He can't thank his coach. Love it!
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It was an accidentally omitted word. We've all done that, had typos, etc, over the years. Spend a half-hour reading Scoop and you'll see it a zillion times (present company included).
But that doesn't mean Sam's twit isn't poke-fun-able.
He can't thank his coach. Love it!
Yeah, I get it. I'm just piling on.
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Sam's twit said:
I bet he plays some in the NBA
Sumbitch idn't playin' in The Show. Hope his passport is buffed up and ready for travel.
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Sam's twit said:
I can’t thank Coach Bennett and the rest of his staff for believing in me.
That's pretty hilarious. Sorry, coach ... I can't thank you!
I bet he plays some in the NBA, but if he plays most or all of his career overseas he still can make good coin.
Shekels, kin, shekels, aina?
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Shekels, kin, shekels, aina?
Or Rubles. The Tall White Stiff idn't gettin' Benjamins donchaknow?
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Or Rubles. The Tall White Stiff idn't gettin' Benjamins donchaknow?
Let's make a friendly wager ... I bet Sam gets more than a single 10-day contract in the NBA.
He either makes a roster, gets a two-way contract or gets multiple 10-day contract. In other words, he'll get some Benjamins from The Show.
Four-pack of our favorite craft brew.
Yeah ... I know ... big spender. It's about bragging rights anyway, nu?
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Let's make a friendly wager ... I bet Sam gets more than a single 10-day contract in the NBA.
He either makes a roster, gets a two-way contract or gets multiple 10-day contract. In other words, he'll get some Benjamins from The Show.
Four-pack of our favorite craft brew.
Yeah ... I know ... big spender. It's about bragging rights anyway, nu?
It's a bet though we need to put a time frame on this.
You may be right and he inks a deal. I just don't think he has Novak's touch and his defense makes Novak look like Paul George.
My thoughts on beers would start with either Baird Brewing's Angry Boy Brown Ale or Northern Monk's Obelisk. If we are limiting this to domestic then I would recommend Allagash Brewing's Coolship Resurgam. Sublime.
One never knows how kids develop. If you would have said Juan Anderson would be an impact NBA player I would have taken that bet every time.
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It's a bet though we need to put a time frame on this.
You may be right and he inks a deal. I just don't think he has Novak's touch and his defense makes Novak look like Paul George.
My thoughts on beers would start with either Baird Brewing's Angry Boy Brown Ale or Northern Monk's Obelisk. If we are limiting this to domestic then I would recommend Allagash Brewing's Coolship Resurgam. Sublime.
One never knows how kids develop. If you would have said Juan Anderson would be an impact NBA player I would have taken that bet every time.
Sure ... two years. Either Hauser gets more than one cup of coffee by the end of the 2022-23 season, or he doesn't.
And we don't have to specify beer now. We'll wait till the bet is won -- and who knows what delicious names will be available then?
Sam is not a great defender for sure, not even good, but I think you are wrong about his D compared to Novak. In each of their college primes, I'd take Sam over Novak 10 times out of 10. Neither can/could guard in space, especially somebody smaller and quicker (which, in today's "position-less" defense, exposes Sam a lot more than Novak ever faced), but Sam is a heady team and help defender. Just IMHO, of course.
And while many of us consider Novak one of the best shooters we've ever seen -- because he was -- Sam wasn't far behind statistically and actually had a better overall percentage.
Anyway, it's silly to argue about something that will be proven soon enough!
Looking forward to getting together with you for another beverage on one of my extended trips to see my daughter and son-in-law (and now my adorable grandson), who still live in your town.
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Sure ... two years. Either Hauser gets more than one cup of coffee by the end of the 2022-23 season, or he doesn't.
And we don't have to specify beer now. We'll wait till the bet is won -- and who knows what delicious names will be available then?
Sam is not a great defender for sure, not even good, but I think you are wrong about his D compared to Novak. In each of their college primes, I'd take Sam over Novak 10 times out of 10. Neither can/could guard in space, especially somebody smaller and quicker (which, in today's "position-less" defense, exposes Sam a lot more than Novak ever faced), but Sam is a heady team and help defender. Just IMHO, of course.
And while many of us consider Novak one of the best shooters we've ever seen -- because he was -- Sam wasn't far behind statistically and actually had a better overall percentage.
Anyway, it's silly to argue about something that will be proven soon enough!
Looking forward to getting together with you for another beverage on one of my extended trips to see my daughter and son-in-law (and now my adorable grandson), who still live in your town.
Mike
We can figure out the brews later. Or we can let the loser decide. The challenge itself made me think through the wide world of great beers.
Congrats on the progeny! That is really fantastic news! As I recall they were living in West Seattle. There are some excellent breweries around there including Georgetown Brewing.
Aside from the bet let me introduce you to one of our incredible brew pubs. We had enough of downtown Seattle and live on the water in Gig Harbor. When taking a tour of our country club here we walked into the club house bar and they had Fox News on the box. SOLD!
Gig Harbor is an oasis of sanity in a sea of insanity. And we have a bet.
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Mike
We can figure out the brews later. Or we can let the loser decide. The challenge itself made me think through the wide world of great beers.
Congrats on the progeny! That is really fantastic news! As I recall they were living in West Seattle. There are some excellent breweries around there including Georgetown Brewing.
Aside from the bet let me introduce you to one of our incredible brew pubs. We had enough of downtown Seattle and live on the water in Gig Harbor. When taking a tour of our country club here we walked into the club house bar and they had Fox News on the box. SOLD!
Gig Harbor is an oasis of sanity in a sea of insanity. And we have a bet.
They live in Woodinville now, Crash. They like that area, with Redmond and Bellevue nearby. My SIL just left Microsoft to be a hotshot at Unity Softwear. Their boy Owen is my third grandson; my son in Chicago has 1 1/2 year old twin boys. I’m a proud (and old) grandpa.
Bet’s on. So now I hafta say, “Go Sam!”
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They live in Woodinville now, Crash. They like that area, with Redmond and Bellevue nearby. My SIL just left Microsoft to be a hotshot at Unity Softwear. Their boy Owen is my third grandson; my son in Chicago has 1 1/2 year old twin boys. I’m a proud (and old) grandpa.
Bet’s on. So now I hafta say, “Go Sam!”
We belong to the wine clubs at Chateau Ste Michelle and Januik which both have tasting rooms in Woodinville. Strongly recommend both among the dozens in the valley.
Red Hook's big barn brewery where we met last is now closed. They relocated retail operations to downtown near Pike Place Market and Capitol Hill. Brewing is now done at the Widmer brewery in Portland.
I mentioned Georgetown Brewing. I'm not a big IPA drinker but their Bodizapha is sublime.
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Let's make a friendly wager ... I bet Sam gets more than a single 10-day contract in the NBA.
He either makes a roster, gets a two-way contract or gets multiple 10-day contract. In other words, he'll get some Benjamins from The Show.
Four-pack of our favorite craft brew.
Yeah ... I know ... big spender. It's about bragging rights anyway, nu?
Chicos still owes me 200 from our last bet. I don't do scoop bets anymore
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Chicos still owes me 200 from our last bet. I don't do scoop bets anymore
Neither Crash nor I are hoopaloop, thank goodness. The winner of our bet will get his winnings.
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Neither Crash nor I are hoopaloop, thank goodness. The winner of our bet will get his winnings.
I look forward to collecting!
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I look forward to collecting!
The beautiful thing is that I can collect early next season after Sam is on his NBA team's roster and has played in a few games!
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The beautiful thing is that I can collect early next season after Sam is on his NBA team's roster and has played in a few games!
I didn't realize the NBA had a franchise in Europe!
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I didn't realize the NBA had a franchise in Europe!
I mean Howard made a team (and doing very poorly) hauser is bound to make one
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I mean Howard made a team (and doing very poorly) hauser is bound to make one
Despite all the criticism, Howard has probably 2-3x the skills of Sam.
https://youtu.be/gdoGcFK63jw?t=10
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Despite all the criticism, Howard has probably 2-3x the skills of Sam.
https://youtu.be/gdoGcFK63jw?t=10
Yeah, and lots of players not even in the NBA had/have more skill than Crawford, Buycks and Juan, too. Sometimes it's not about skill.
Sam shoots 3s at 40%+, he's 6-8 and he's smart.
If Markus were 6-8, with his skillset, he'd have been a top-5 pick. But unfortunately for him, he's much closer to 5-8.
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Yeah, and lots of players not even in the NBA had/have more skill than Crawford, Buycks and Juan, too. Sometimes it's not about skill.
Sam shoots 3s at 40%+, he's 6-8 and he's smart.
If Markus were 6-8, with his skillset, he'd have been a top-5 pick. But unfortunately for him, he's much closer to 5-8.
If Grandma had balls She would be Grandpa ( You can provide the Yiddish translation)
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Message Moved to proper thread
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Aaron continuing to do well and lobbying for the full time job.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jeopardy-aaron-rodgers-hilarious-reaction-green-bay-packers-clue
Hauser thread? lol
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Kithier transferring out of MSU. More minutes for Joey.
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Hauser thread? lol
Maybe Aaron lobbied the Hausers to write a letter for him?
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Aaron continuing to do well and lobbying for the full time job.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jeopardy-aaron-rodgers-hilarious-reaction-green-bay-packers-clue
If Aaron had breasts She would be Grandma ( You can provide the Cheesehead translation)
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If Aaron had breasts She would be Grandma ( You can provide the Cheesehead translation)
If Aaron had breasts she would be Erin.
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If Aaron had breasts she would be Erin.
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Easy bringing up Erin, aina.
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If Aaron had breasts She would be Grandma ( You can provide the Cheesehead translation)
Men have breasts, too.
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Men have breasts, too.
If Aaron had breasts sagging titties She would be Grandma
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Men have breasts, too.
Crud.
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Sam and Joey's Mom is the new Boss Lady of WIAA
https://journaltimes.com/wiaa-hauser-to-be-1st-female-executive-director/article_96d3738d-e99c-543e-b379-448d52cb33af.html
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Easy bringing up Erin, aina.
Oy, hey?
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A second Hauser thread bumped so that the arguments can carry on here and not the recruiting thread. Did you see on twitter that Joey supports Aaron Rodgers decision? LOL. When it comes these guys, I have let it go and moved on. Peace, hugs, and good will to all.
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A second Hauser thread bumped so that the arguments can carry on here and not the recruiting thread. Did you see on twitter that Joey supports Aaron Rodgers decision? LOL. When it comes these guys, I have let it go and moved on. Peace, hugs, and good will to all.
Waiting to see if Sam gets an invite to NBA Combine
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Hope the super softs have a great career in the NBA.
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How come no recruiting news here!?!
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https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/05/offseason-evaluation-high-expectations-proved-hard-to-fulfill-for-michigan-states-joey-hauser.html
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https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/05/offseason-evaluation-high-expectations-proved-hard-to-fulfill-for-michigan-states-joey-hauser.html
That sure was a soft way to say: "Joey Hauser was one of the biggest disappointments in all of college basketball."
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That sure was a soft Joey Hauser way to say: "Joey Hauser was one of the biggest disappointments in all of college basketball."
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That sure was a soft way to say: "Joey Hauser was one of the biggest disappointments in all of college basketball."
They don’t get much softer than Joey Hauser
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Few folks, not even the person who wrote that article, seem willing to admit that Joey regressed from his freshman season under Wojo to his third-year sophomore season under Izzo.
Even defending him by saying that he didn’t have a good PG at MSU means admitting that playing with Markus actually helped Joey’s production ... and we can’t have that, either.
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"Hauser spoke in his year off about defense being a primary focus. But it was clear last year that there’s still ground to cover in that department."
That's certainly one way of saying he's slow af.
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This is a very well written and detailed Scouting Report on Sam. Goes into a lot
of analysis , video and stats.
https://zonahoops.com/2021/03/31/sam-hauser-nba-scouting-report/
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"Hauser spoke in his year off about defense being a primary focus. But it was clear last year that there’s still ground to cover in that department."
That's certainly one way of saying he's slow af.
Lol. Statues struggle with foot speed.
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Thanks for posting that link, 9-9-9.
Very interesting, thorough scouting report, and I happen to agree with the conclusion after the author presents a list of guys who had similar output and skillsets in college:
Well, well, well, a whole bunch of NBA players. Just because Hauser’s stock rates and DBPM aren’t at the literal bottom of the ocean doesn’t mean that he’ll be a passable NBA defender, but nonetheless, they are encouraging indicators. This query also shows just how ridiculous of a gunner Hauser has the potential to be. This is probably as good a group of shooters as Barttorvik could allow one to create, and Hauser leads all qualifiers in 3-point percentage.
I think that Sam Hauser can be a real NBA rotation player. I’m not going to sit here and say that he absolutely needs to be a first-round pick, but he could very well return round one value in this class. Players with his intersection of size, decision-making, and out-of-this-world shooting ability don’t grow on trees.
Still, selecting Hauser doesn’t make much sense for certain teams. How much value does a 23-year old provide to a squad still years away from contention? Not only that, but contenders must consider his defensive fit. Hauser in Denver, for instance, could produce some ridiculous offensive line-ups, but how would the defense look in a hedge-heavy scheme with MPJ on the opposite wing?
For teams with enough rim-protection and versatile defenders on the wing, however, this is an incredible value play.
After watching the likes of Joe Harris and Duncan Robinson, I am convinced that the right NBA team can find a place for a smart 6-8 guy who can shoot. Can't wait to enjoy the beer I'm gonna win from Crash in our bet!
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I think that is a fair profile for Sam. I can see him having a decent career in the NBA just given his skill set.
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This is a very well written and detailed Scouting Report on Sam. Goes into a lot
of analysis , video and stats.
https://zonahoops.com/2021/03/31/sam-hauser-nba-scouting-report/
"Hauser in Denver, for instance ..."
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Thanks for posting that link, 9-9-9.
Very interesting, thorough scouting report, and I happen to agree with the conclusion after the author presents a list of guys who had similar output and skillsets in college:
Well, well, well, a whole bunch of NBA players. Just because Hauser’s stock rates and DBPM aren’t at the literal bottom of the ocean doesn’t mean that he’ll be a passable NBA defender, but nonetheless, they are encouraging indicators. This query also shows just how ridiculous of a gunner Hauser has the potential to be. This is probably as good a group of shooters as Barttorvik could allow one to create, and Hauser leads all qualifiers in 3-point percentage.
I think that Sam Hauser can be a real NBA rotation player. I’m not going to sit here and say that he absolutely needs to be a first-round pick, but he could very well return round one value in this class. Players with his intersection of size, decision-making, and out-of-this-world shooting ability don’t grow on trees.
Still, selecting Hauser doesn’t make much sense for certain teams. How much value does a 23-year old provide to a squad still years away from contention? Not only that, but contenders must consider his defensive fit. Hauser in Denver, for instance, could produce some ridiculous offensive line-ups, but how would the defense look in a hedge-heavy scheme with MPJ on the opposite wing?
For teams with enough rim-protection and versatile defenders on the wing, however, this is an incredible value play.
After watching the likes of Joe Harris and Duncan Robinson, I am convinced that the right NBA team can find a place for a smart 6-8 guy who can shoot. Can't wait to enjoy the beer I'm gonna win from Crash in our bet!
I agree that Sam will get a chance in the NBA, but he doesn't have the footspeed or lateral quickness of either of those guys. Both of those guys are well below NBA average in both of those categories too. Time will tell. Maybe he can improve those areas. But as of now I can't picture him rotating quick enough vs. NBA offenses with more spacing.
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I agree that Sam will get a chance in the NBA, but he doesn't have the footspeed or lateral quickness of either of those guys. Both of those guys are well below NBA average in both of those categories too. Time will tell. Maybe he can improve those areas. But as of now I can't picture him rotating quick enough vs. NBA offenses with more spacing.
The beautiful thing is that we’ll get to see what actually happens.
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Scouting Report on Sam
https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/sam-hauser-scouting-report/
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Scouting Report on Sam
https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/sam-hauser-scouting-report/
Accurate report. If he shoots lights-out at the combine and in individual workouts, I definitely could see a team taking a 2nd-round flyer on him. I mean, a LOT worse players than Sam Hauser have been taken in the second rounds of recent drafts.
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Sam doing well on the combine
https://mobile.twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1407896840796844032
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Sam doing well on the combine
https://mobile.twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1407896840796844032
Not surprised. He can really shoot, and he's always been a decent help defender.
I've long thought he'd have an NBA career, and I'm now starting to think a team will take a second-round flyer on him. Every team is desperate for shooting.
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Watching Hauser play as we speak. Hit a nice mid range jumper. Still not good on defense. That being said, if he doesnt get drafted, I think he will get a two way contract.
On a side note, the bigs in these games are super athletic.
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Not surprised. He can really shoot, and he's always been a decent help defender.
I've long thought he'd have an NBA career, and I'm now starting to think a team will take a second-round flyer on him. Every team is desperate for shooting.
He had been bouncing on and off the low end of the second round on the mocks all year. I agree this combine performance may be enough to get him drafted. If enough teams like him, they won't wait to sign him as a free agent, and they will draft him to be sure.
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Not surprised. He can really shoot, and he's always been a decent help defender.
I've long thought he'd have an NBA career, and I'm now starting to think a team will take a second-round flyer on him. Every team is desperate for shooting.
Listen, Sam isn’t the most athletic dude but he’s a historically good NCAA shooter from deep and he has good size. He has the profile of a lot of the Euro small forward imports. It’s not like guys like Joe Ingles or Bogdan Bogdanovic are super athletic or defensively superlative. But they are very good shooters who play great team basketball. Sam fits a similar mold.
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Listen, Sam isn’t the most athletic dude but he’s a historically good NCAA shooter from deep and he has good size. He has the profile of a lot of the Euro small forward imports. It’s not like guys like Joe Ingles or Bogdan Bogdanovic are super athletic or defensively superlative. But they are very good shooters who play great team basketball. Sam fits a similar mold.
Exactly.
Elite shooters who also play smart basketball and who aren’t too short do not grow on trees. That his chance at an NBA career was so casually dismissed by some of our fellow Scoopers … I don’t get it.
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Listen, Sam isn’t the most athletic dude but he’s a historically good NCAA shooter from deep and he has good size. He has the profile of a lot of the Euro small forward imports. It’s not like guys like Joe Ingles or Bogdan Bogdanovic are super athletic or defensively superlative. But they are very good shooters who play great team basketball. Sam fits a similar mold.
I think the players you mentioned, along with Heurter as another example, are better shooting off the dribble than Sam. They may also be quicker laterally, especially defensively.
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Listen, Sam isn’t the most athletic dude but he’s a historically good NCAA shooter from deep and he has good size. He has the profile of a lot of the Euro small forward imports. It’s not like guys like Joe Ingles or Bogdan Bogdanovic are super athletic or defensively superlative. But they are very good shooters who play great team basketball. Sam fits a similar mold.
The question isn't whether Sam can shoot, it's whether Sam can get his shot.
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The question isn't whether Sam can shoot, it's whether Sam can get his shot.
Exactly.
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I think the players you mentioned, along with Heurter as another example, are better shooting off the dribble than Sam. They may also be quicker laterally, especially defensively.
I understand what you're saying, Muggs, but Steve Novak made $21M during a decade-long NBA career as a catch-and-shoot floor-spacer. And he did so in an NBA that hadn't gone completely bonkers shooting 3s, as is now the case.
Novak is one of the best shooters any of us have ever seen, and as good a shooter as Hauser has been, he hasn't proven himself to be quite that level yet. But Sam does every other thing on the court better than Novak did.
A knockdown 3-point shooter, especially one with height, doesn't need to shoot off the dribble to make a lot of money.
If Hauser makes it, there will be games his coach will not be able to use him much; the matchups will just be too unfavorable. But there also will be games he can play 25+ minutes because the other team will have guys on the floor he can defend just fine. If he's hitting his 3s and opening the floor for his teammates, he'll play. Duncan Robinson didn't play 31 mpg for Miami last season because he's a wonderful defender who constantly created his shot off the dribble. He wasn't drafted, either.
If Sam showed up at all these camps, combines and tryouts and had trouble connecting consistently from NBA 3-point range, I'd say he had little chance at an NBA career. That he seemingly is doing the opposite -- hitting 3 after 3 after 3 -- confirms that he can do the one thing that every NBA team desperately wants and needs.
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I understand what you're saying, Muggs, but Steve Novak made $21M during a decade-long NBA career as a catch-and-shoot floor-spacer. And he did so in an NBA that hadn't gone completely bonkers shooting 3s, as is now the case.
Novak is one of the best shooters any of us have ever seen, and as good a shooter as Hauser has been, he hasn't proven himself to be quite that level yet. But Sam does every other thing on the court better than Novak did.
A knockdown 3-point shooter, especially one with height, doesn't need to shoot off the dribble to make a lot of money.
If Hauser makes it, there will be games his coach will not be able to use him much; the matchups will just be too unfavorable. But there also will be games he can play 25+ minutes because the other team will have guys on the floor he can defend just fine. If he's hitting his 3s and opening the floor for his teammates, he'll play. Duncan Robinson didn't play 31 mpg for Miami last season because he's a wonderful defender who constantly created his shot off the dribble. He wasn't drafted, either.
If Sam showed up at all these camps, combines and tryouts and had trouble connecting consistently from NBA 3-point range, I'd say he had little chance at an NBA career. That he seemingly is doing the opposite -- hitting 3 after 3 after 3 -- confirms that he can do the one thing that every NBA team desperately wants and needs.
If he becomes a sniper from 3, teams will find a place for him.
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I understand what you're saying, Muggs, but Steve Novak made $21M during a decade-long NBA career as a catch-and-shoot floor-spacer. And he did so in an NBA that hadn't gone completely bonkers shooting 3s, as is now the case.
Novak is one of the best shooters any of us have ever seen, and as good a shooter as Hauser has been, he hasn't proven himself to be quite that level yet. But Sam does every other thing on the court better than Novak did.
A knockdown 3-point shooter, especially one with height, doesn't need to shoot off the dribble to make a lot of money.
If Hauser makes it, there will be games his coach will not be able to use him much; the matchups will just be too unfavorable. But there also will be games he can play 25+ minutes because the other team will have guys on the floor he can defend just fine. If he's hitting his 3s and opening the floor for his teammates, he'll play. Duncan Robinson didn't play 31 mpg for Miami last season because he's a wonderful defender who constantly created his shot off the dribble. He wasn't drafted, either.
If Sam showed up at all these camps, combines and tryouts and had trouble connecting consistently from NBA 3-point range, I'd say he had little chance at an NBA career. That he seemingly is doing the opposite -- hitting 3 after 3 after 3 -- confirms that he can do the one thing that every NBA team desperately wants and needs.
That's fair but let me just say this about Novak: He was as good a pure shooter as you'll ever see. Of course he couldn't get shots off easily but as far as catch and shoot, in wide open space, he ticked the twine consistently. There are many occasions during practice or before games where he would casually sink 25 straight triples with the majority of them nothing but nylon. And let's not forget his little free throw run. The guy could shoot and simply did not have games like Sam where he was just off and missed tons of clean looks.
I understand what you're saying, Muggs, but Steve Novak made $21M during a decade-long NBA career as a catch-and-shoot floor-spacer. And he did so in an NBA that hadn't gone completely bonkers shooting 3s, as is now the case.
Novak is one of the best shooters any of us have ever seen, and as good a shooter as Hauser has been, he hasn't proven himself to be quite that level yet. But Sam does every other thing on the court better than Novak did.
A knockdown 3-point shooter, especially one with height, doesn't need to shoot off the dribble to make a lot of money.
If Hauser makes it, there will be games his coach will not be able to use him much; the matchups will just be too unfavorable. But there also will be games he can play 25+ minutes because the other team will have guys on the floor he can defend just fine. If he's hitting his 3s and opening the floor for his teammates, he'll play. Duncan Robinson didn't play 31 mpg for Miami last season because he's a wonderful defender who constantly created his shot off the dribble. He wasn't drafted, either.
If Sam showed up at all these camps, combines and tryouts and had trouble connecting consistently from NBA 3-point range, I'd say he had little chance at an NBA career. That he seemingly is doing the opposite -- hitting 3 after 3 after 3 -- confirms that he can do the one thing that every NBA team desperately wants and needs.
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That's fair but let me just say this about Novak: He was as good a pure shooter as you'll ever see. Of course he couldn't get shots off easily but as far as catch and shoot, in wide open space, he ticked the twine consistently. There are many occasions during practice or before games where he would casually sink 25 straight triples with the majority of them nothing but nylon. And let's not forget his little free throw run. The guy could shoot and simply did not have games like Sam where he was just off and missed tons of clean looks.
Of course Novak had games "where he was just off and missed tons of clean looks." Your memory is clouded by your appreciation of him (an appreciation I share). He was 0-4 and scored 2 points in 25 minutes in a 2005 loss to Louisville. He was 1-6 in the 2005 NIT embarrass-a-thon to Western Michigan. He was 1-7 against E. Washington in a game we surprisingly had to sweat out. He was 2-9 in a 2005-06 loss to Madison.
That I had to go to the interwebs to look up his few off nights is a testament to how great a shooter he was. And I went out of the way to say that Sam has not proven to be a Novak-level shooter yet. But Sam can shoot, he's got a very high basketball IQ, and he's not mentally weak like his younger bro.
The beautiful thing is we'll actually get to see how good Hauser can be rather than just speculate about it! He might have a 10-year career like Novak, or he might never see a minute in the NBA. I'm thinking the truth will be somewhere in the middle.
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In the highlights, I have seen him make a lot of open 3s.
I haven’t seen him create shots. I haven’t seen him run off screens to get open looks. I haven’t seen a quick release.
But he is a good stand still shooter and has, on occasion, shown a little post-up game. He’s a smart guy who is good on help defense, but I have a hard time finding NBA 3s that he can guard.
But when I see the guys at the back third of the Bucks, I see no reason he couldn’t be one of those guys.
My prediction is undrafted and time in the G League with a chance of a call up.
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That's fair but let me just say this about Novak: He was as good a pure shooter as you'll ever see. Of course he couldn't get shots off easily but as far as catch and shoot, in wide open space, he ticked the twine consistently. There are many occasions during practice or before games where he would casually sink 25 straight triples with the majority of them nothing but nylon. And let's not forget his little free throw run. The guy could shoot and simply did not have games like Sam where he was just off and missed tons of clean looks.
Steve Novak college percentages:
46% from 3 on just over 6 attempts per game.
45% overall as he was lower at about 43% from 2
Sam Hauser college percentages:
44% from 3 on just under 6 attempts per game.
48% overall as he was around 50% from 2.
Novak is understandably a venerate MU legend. Sam left under dubious circumstances. That leads to some heavy tinted glasses in viewing them. We don’t know what Sam’s NBA future holds, but trying to differentiate them at the conclusion of their college careers by acting like Novak was some clearly superior shooting is just untrue. Sam is one of the 30 best 3P shooters in NCAA history. Dude is a complete sniper.
Sam may not be drafted, but there is almost no chance he’s not a 2 way contract guy. 6’8 45% 3P shooters don’t grow on trees. Especially ones that understand passing, spacing, and spent 2 years learning in a rigorous defensive scheme
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In the highlights, I have seen him make a lot of open 3s.
I haven’t seen him create shots. I haven’t seen him run off screens to get open looks. I haven’t seen a quick release.
But he is a good stand still shooter and has, on occasion, shown a little post-up game. He’s a smart guy who is good on help defense, but I have a hard time finding NBA 3s that he can guard.
But when I see the guys at the back third of the Bucks, I see no reason he couldn’t be one of those guys.
My prediction is undrafted and time in the G League with a chance of a call up.
I actually have seen him come off screens and shoot 3s. I -- and most of America -- also saw him get off a game-tying 3 pretty damn quickly against Creighton. And he has been -- and will continue to be at whatever level he plays next -- an incredible pick-and-pop option.
You think he'd have absolutely no chance defending Pat Connaughton or Duncan Robinson or Bogdan Bogdanovic? Put it this way: I think he could guard them every bit as well as they could guard him.
Your prediction is reasonable ... though I'm getting a feeling he'll be drafted in the second round.
Steve Novak college percentages:
46% from 3 on just over 6 attempts per game.
45% overall as he was lower at about 43% from 2
Sam Hauser college percentages:
44% from 3 on just under 6 attempts per game.
48% overall as he was around 50% from 2.
Novak is understandably a venerate MU legend. Sam left under dubious circumstances. That leads to some heavy tinted glasses in viewing them. We don’t know what Sam’s NBA future holds, but trying to differentiate them at the conclusion of their college careers by acting like Novak was some clearly superior shooting is just untrue. Sam is one of the 30 best 3P shooters in NCAA history. Dude is a complete sniper.
Sam may not be drafted, but there is almost no chance he’s not a 2 way contract guy. 6’8 45% 3P shooters don’t grow on trees. Especially ones that understand passing, spacing, and spent 2 years learning in a rigorous defensive scheme
Great stats and great points.
The guy could shoot and simply did not have games like Sam where he was just off and missed tons of clean looks.
Oh ... and I forgot one more ... 0-5 vs Kansas in '03. Of course, everybody sucked in that game, but it sure would have been nice if the guy who "simply did not have games ... where he was just off" had hit even one 3.
I don't want it to sound like I'm ragging on Novak, because he was a great Warrior; like all of us, though, he wasn't perfect. As Wags says, sometimes we misremember things a little when it comes to our favorite players.
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Steve Novak college percentages:
46% from 3 on just over 6 attempts per game.
45% overall as he was lower at about 43% from 2
Sam Hauser college percentages:
44% from 3 on just under 6 attempts per game.
48% overall as he was around 50% from 2.
Novak is understandably a venerate MU legend. Sam left under dubious circumstances. That leads to some heavy tinted glasses in viewing them. We don’t know what Sam’s NBA future holds, but trying to differentiate them at the conclusion of their college careers by acting like Novak was some clearly superior shooting is just untrue. Sam is one of the 30 best 3P shooters in NCAA history. Dude is a complete sniper.
Sam may not be drafted, but there is almost no chance he’s not a 2 way contract guy. 6’8 45% 3P shooters don’t grow on trees. Especially ones that understand passing, spacing, and spent 2 years learning in a rigorous defensive scheme
Novak was a better pure shooter. I don't think this is debatable. I think people are forgetting the Mizzou tournament game when he was a Frosh and the UCONN performance. I was able to relax when Novak had an open look.
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The 5 best pure shooters in MU history?
Would Novak, Howard, and Rowsey be top 5?
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Any discussion here starts with the Grafton Gun, hey?
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Novak was a better pure shooter. I don't think this is debatable. I think people are forgetting the Mizzou tournament game when he was a Frosh and the UCONN performance. I was able to relax when Novak had an open look.
Nobody is forgetting anything. You’re arguing against statistics with pure feel and memory. Sam shot basically 45% from 3 at MU. Acting like you could relax when Novak had an open look and not Sam cause he wasn’t as good of a “pure shooter” is just silly
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Nobody is forgetting anything. You’re arguing against statistics with pure feel and memory. Sam shot basically 45% from 3 at MU. Acting like you could relax when Novak had an open look and not Sam cause he wasn’t as good of a “pure shooter” is just silly
Excuse me JWags but I'm well aware of situations that cause me stress vs being able to relax. If my life depended on an MU player taking an open 23 footer, I would take Novak over Sam 100/100 times. Regardless if I have some bias.
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The 5 best pure shooters in MU history?
Would Novak, Howard, and Rowsey be top 5?
This is one of those "era" things. Outside shooting, especially deep outside shooting, simply wasn't valued as highly when Marquette was one of the best few programs in all of college basketball -- meaning when we had tons of talent every year. I mean, Tatum could effen shoot. So could Rosenberger. A guy like Butch was more of a slasher and mid-range guy, but that's what guys did back then, so who knows? He hit some deep J's against the U.S. Olympic team. Sewell, the guy Doc Dribble mentioned, was considered one of the best outside shooters of his time. Oliver Lee, who arrived a tad later, could shoot. Bo Ellis could have been a "trail 3" guy if it had been a thing back then.
Of the guys we know from the 3-point era ... Novak, Howard, Hauser, Rowsey, Diener, Logterman, Acker (50% as a senior).
Excuse me JWags but I'm well aware of situations that cause me stress vs being able to relax. If my life depended on an MU player taking an open 23 footer, I would take Novak over Sam 100/100 times. Regardless if I have some bias.
Cool, Muggs. But your emotion is not "fact."
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Any discussion here starts with the Grafton Gun, hey?
Jeff Sewell helped lead us to the NIT Championship , had interest from the NBA , ABA and NFL and in my view is one of the more overlooked great players in MU history
Could only imagine if the three point rule was in effect then.
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Nobody is forgetting anything. You’re arguing against statistics with pure feel and memory. Sam shot basically 45% from 3 at MU. Acting like you could relax when Novak had an open look and not Sam cause he wasn’t as good of a “pure shooter” is just silly
Novak was a better shooter. Arguing otherwise, or that Sam was his equal, based on three-point percentage minus context would be a mistake.
Sam had the benefit of almost always being the second, and sometimes the third, most dangerous outside shooter on the floor. That provided him with a lot of clean looks. And, unlike Steve for a season-plus, slowing down Sam was never the focus of an opposing defense.
But if you insist on stats, maybe compare True Shooting percentage for a more accurate measure.
None of this is to say Sam isn't a great shooter. He is. But again, his NBA future will come down to whether he can get clean looks, not whether he can make them.
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Novak was a better shooter. Arguing otherwise, or that Sam was his equal, based on three-point percentage minus context would be a mistake.
Sam had the benefit of almost always being the second, and sometimes the third, most dangerous outside shooter on the floor. That provided him with a lot of clean looks. And, unlike Steve for a season-plus, slowing down Sam was never the focus of an opposing defense.
But if you insist on stats, maybe compare True Shooting percentage for a more accurate measure.
None of this is to say Sam isn't a great shooter. He is. But again, his NBA future will come down to whether he can get clean looks, not whether he can make them.
Sam has always been a player that works within a team concept and gets his clean looks that way.
Does the NBA 24 second shot make it more or less likely Sam can get clean looks?
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First question answer question was humorous
https://www.nba.com/warriors/video/teams/warriors/2021/06/07/343252/1623110956436-predraftworkouthauserv01-343252
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First question answer question was humorous
https://www.nba.com/warriors/video/teams/warriors/2021/06/07/343252/1623110956436-predraftworkouthauserv01-343252
Joey = Yoko
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Lol, dude from Warriors Sound was clueless as to Howard/Hauser relationship. What did Markus tell you about NBA workout? Howard to Hauser, "go fook yourself." Thought Sam handled it very well.
Also, dissed Woj silently with his praise of Tony, hey?
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Sam Shooting drill highlights at the NBA Combine
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pGLUxMQPAEc
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Sam listed 75th best available by ESPN
https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/4
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Sam listed 75th best available by ESPN
https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/4
But they only draft 60 or so.
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But they only draft 60 or so.
Yep.
But fairly often guys who are ranked much lower than 60 get drafted, and some ranked higher don't. What was Lazar ranked?
Also, one doesn't need to be drafted to make it. Any of us who follow the NBA could probably name a dozen right off the top of our heads.
I'd rate Sam as a mild long shot. I actually expect him to have an NBA career, and wouldn't be surprised if he's drafted.
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Sam projected number 57 to The Hornets in the latest NBADraft.net mock draft. I think his solid performance at the combine has drawn some interest
https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/?year-mock=2021
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Not surprised.
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Some interesting comments by Adam at the end of this article
https://www.nba.com/pacers/news/wednesdays-workout-filled-first-round-talent
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Has Sam axed Markus four advice as he tries out fore teems, hey?
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I've seen Sam in a handful of mock drafts in the 50 to 60 range, but he's undrafted in the vast majority. So while it wouldn't totally surprise me to see Sam drafted, I expect he will go undrafted and sign a two way contract.
I think Sam gets a cup of coffee in the NBA but he's out of the league in 3 years. Sam got absolutely dominated by Kispert when Virginia played Gonzaga. That's a snapshot of the struggles Sam will have in the NBA.
But he'll make good money in Europe someday.
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My gosh, if we had a three point shot in the Al era, Gary Rosenberger would have started as a freshman, Earl Tatum would have been among top five beat Warriors and BT’s rep would have been a lot better.
Bo would have been a completely different player — more in the Novak mode.
The game would have been very different but Al would have adapted.
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My gosh, if we had a three point shot in the Al era, Gary Rosenberger would have started as a freshman, Earl Tatum would have been among top five beat Warriors and BT’s rep would have been a lot better.
Bo would have been a completely different player — more in the Novak mode.
The game would have been very different but Al would have adapted.
No would not have been a Novak-type player. In any way.
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Has Sam axed Markus four advice as he tries out fore teems, hey?
Black folks absolutely LOVE it when old white guys use ebonics, nu?
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Boychick, dis iz da wey eye talk, hey?
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Like a moron? Good to know.
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https://dailyknicks.com/2021/07/14/3-small-forwards-new-york-knicks-look-draft-2021/4/
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Hauser to Celtics on two way deal
https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1420983228396101637
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Oh boy. I listen to Lowe's podcast pretty consistently and multiple times him and/or his guest this season would talk about "what's wrong with the Celtics." They always talked about how the Celtics were last in the NBA in the "hockey assist" and in the number of passes. Has Sam written his letter telling his coach how the game is meant to be played yet? Or did he get to have a sit down with Udoka discussing how Udoka should run his team before he decided to sign with the Celtics?
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Oh boy. I listen to Lowe's podcast pretty consistently and multiple times him and/or his guest this season would talk about "what's wrong with the Celtics." They always talked about how the Celtics were last in the NBA in the "hockey assist" and in the number of passes. Has Sam written his letter telling his coach how the game is meant to be played yet? Or did he get to have a sit down with Udoka discussing how Udoka should run his team before he decided to sign with the Celtics?
It's incredible to me that people are still dragging a family from SPASH that sent their kids to play for Izzo & Tony Bennett.
It's about team.
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It's incredible to me that people are still dragging a family from SPASH that sent their kids to play for Izzo & Tony Bennett.
It's about team.
They got it right. Combined to win exactly the same number of NCAA Tournament games under their new HOF coaches as they did at MU.
Maybe they were part of the issue...
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It's incredible to me that people are still dragging a family from SPASH that sent their kids to play for Izzo & Tony Bennett.
It's about team.
Nothing says "It's about team" like "I'm gonna leave my team because I'm not getting enough shots."
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An interesting comparison/contrast:
Simone Biles and the Olympics vs Hauser bros and Marquette bball
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An interesting comparison/contrast:
Simone Biles and the Olympics vs Hauser bros and Marquette bball
Safety/mental health vs 'gimmie the ball'
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Safety/mental health vs 'gimmie the ball'
Simone would get a lot more sympathy if she played for Al McGuire
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Wojo would have Simone jacking up shots every time down the floor. It's not every season that you get a world-class talent like that...
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Simone would get a lot more sympathy if she played for Al McGuire
Funny post, Unc.
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Nothing says "It's about team" like "I'm gonna leave my team because I'm not getting enough shots."
And goes off to UVA and MSU. For F's sake they didn't go to Iowa State. They went to the two biggest team first programs in the country. The least sexy teams in the country. The most put aside your own ambitions in the country.
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And goes off to UVA and MSU. For F's sake they didn't go to Iowa State. They went to the two biggest team first programs in the country. The least sexy teams in the country. The most put aside your own ambitions in the country.
Went great for them.
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Went great for them.
Sam thinks so and when it’s all said and done Joey likely will too. How you think it went for them means absolutely nothing.
Bigger question: how’d it work out for Wojo? Is he still at Duke North or did he take over the program in Durham?
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Went great for them.
The tournament's a crap shoot, I'm really a badger fan?
Re: Sam: 1st Team All ACC (decent conference). Got to spend two seasons around the one of the Top 5 coaches in college, a coach who could walk into almost any NBA job right now. Stop being so obtuse.
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Do people watch Michigan State?
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And goes off to UVA and MSU. For F's sake they didn't go to Iowa State. They went to the two biggest team first programs in the country. The least sexy teams in the country. The most put aside your own ambitions in the country.
Yeah, this tired old argument gets trotted out more than a pony in a traveling circus.
Every single thing we know about the Hausers' decision points to it being about Markus and not wanting to play a secondary role to him. If it was about anything else, why did they still attend the team post-season banquet? Why did they not alert the coaching staff in postseason meetings? Why did they wait until Markus announced he was returning?
Here's why: Their decision was based on whether or not Markus returned.
Look, I don't know why some people here need to keep spinning the Hausers' decision as anything but looking out for their own interests. There's nothing wrong with them looking out for their own interests. If they were unhappy at Marquette and thought they'd do better/be happier elsewhere, I 100% agree with their decision to leave and don't begrudge them for it.
The whole idea that they can't look out for their own interests while attending Virginia or Michigan State is flat-out stupid. They didn't choose those schools because "we're team first guys." They chose those schools because they're elite programs with elite coaches who they believed would out them in the best position to attain whatever goals they're looking to attain.
The idea that Joey Hauser - Joey Hauser! - chose MSU because he wants to be just another cog in wheel is just laughable.
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Do people watch Michigan State?
Nah. They're unsexy. Also, their coach is the reincarnation of Norm Dale.
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The tournament's a crap shoot, I'm really a badger fan?
Re: Sam: 1st Team All ACC (decent conference). Got to spend two seasons around the one of the Top 5 coaches in college, a coach who could walk into almost any NBA job right now. Stop being so obtuse.
Hoo boy.
Tony Bennett, who's been ousted in the first round by 16 and 13 seeds, respectively, in two of the last three NCAA tournaments can walk into any NBA job?
Now who's being obtuse?
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UVA finished second in Sam's initial recruitment.
MSU finished second in Joey's initial recruitment.
Sam wanted to go to MU over UVA.
Joey wanted to go to MSU over MU, but made a family decision to attend MU.
Joey ended up not liking MU for a variety of reasons, and resenting MU for keeping him from going to MSU.
Joey's resentment festers, causes issues in the locker room, specifically with Markus. Sam makes a family decision to support his brother. Wojo doesn't figure out how to manage the situation.
Joey and Sam hope locker room issues will go away with Markus going pro. Markus returns.
Joey decides to transfer, Sam makes a family decision to support his brother by transferring too. Wojo does not handle it well, further burning the bridge
Joey and Sam almost make another family decision to go to UW together. Upon reflection, they finally decide to do what's best for them individually. Joey goes to MSU like he always wanted. Sam goes to UVA, the closest runner up in his initial recruitment.
Wojo gets shiitcanned two years later. Sam has a fantastic season at UVA. Joey has a disappointing season at MSU.
I've heard literal dozens versions of the Hausergate drama. This is the version that makes the most sense to me. They're not saints, they're not sinners. They're not selfless, they're not quitters. They're just college students who took awhile to figure out what they wanted out off their college experience and where they could get that. I thank them for their time at MU and wish them nothing but the best. If it weren't for this board bringing them up regularly, I probably would give them as much thought as I've given any other transfer out MUBB.
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And goes off to UVA and MSU. For F's sake they didn't go to Iowa State. They went to the two biggest team first programs in the country. The least sexy teams in the country. The most put aside your own ambitions in the country.
+ infinity. Leaving Marquette to go “shot hunting” at UVA under TB or MSU under Izzo is more contrary to common sense than almost anything ever opined on Scoop. It totally defies logic. For the butthurt, though, reason flies out the window
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+ infinity. Leaving Marquette to go “shot hunting” at UVA under TB or MSU under Izzo is more contrary to common sense than almost anything ever opined on Scoop. It totally defies logic. For the butthurt, though, reason flies out the window
This is a false choice, Lenny.
It's not "shot hunters" or "selfless heroes who just want to play team ball."
As TAMU correctly puts it, they're not sinners or saints. Just a couple of college basketball players who decided their best interests lied elsewhere. I understand some want to lionize them to make Wojo look worse, but that's every bit the false narrative as saying they're selfish babies.
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UVA finished second in Sam's initial recruitment.
MSU finished second in Joey's initial recruitment.
Sam wanted to go to MU over UVA.
Joey wanted to go to MSU over MU, but made a family decision to attend MU.
Joey ended up not liking MU for a variety of reasons, and resenting MU for keeping him from going to MSU.
Joey's resentment festers, causes issues in the locker room, specifically with Markus. Sam makes a family decision to support his brother. Wojo doesn't figure out how to manage the situation.
Joey and Sam hope locker room issues will go away with Markus going pro. Markus returns.
Joey decides to transfer, Sam makes a family decision to support his brother by transferring too. Wojo does not handle it well, further burning the bridge
Joey and Sam almost make another family decision to go to UW together. Upon reflection, they finally decide to do what's best for them individually. Joey goes to MSU like he always wanted. Sam goes to UVA, the closest runner up in his initial recruitment.
Wojo gets shiitcanned two years later. Sam has a fantastic season at UVA. Joey has a disappointing season at MSU.
I've heard literal dozens versions of the Hausergate drama. This is the version that makes the most sense to me. They're not saints, they're not sinners. They're not selfless, they're not quitters. They're just college students who took awhile to figure out what they wanted out off their college experience and where they could get that. I thank them for their time at MU and wish them nothing but the best. If it weren't for this board bringing them up regularly, I probably would give them as much thought as I've given any other transfer out MUBB.
Yap
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This is a false choice, Lenny.
It's not "shot hunters" or "selfless heroes who just want to play team ball."
As TAMU correctly puts it, they're not sinners or saints. Just a couple of college basketball players who decided their best interests lied elsewhere. I understand some want to lionize them to make Wojo look worse, but that's every bit the false narrative as saying they're selfish babies.
Pak
Of course the Hausers thought their best interests were elsewhere. That’s why they left. What were those “self interests” in their own minds? On one side of the argument we’re folks who insisted that those “self interests” were more shots and higher usage. That didn’t make sense to me. The other side of the argument was that their “self interests” included playing for coaches who were proven winners and favored a more balanced offensive philosophy. Given their backgrounds and the coaches/programs they chose this made perfect sense.
I don’t think anyone in this whole situation was saint or sinner. Neither does Lens. The haters who refuse to look at this logically? That’s a different story.
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UVA finished second in Sam's initial recruitment.
MSU finished second in Joey's initial recruitment.
Sam wanted to go to MU over UVA.
Joey wanted to go to MSU over MU, but made a family decision to attend MU.
Joey ended up not liking MU for a variety of reasons, and resenting MU for keeping him from going to MSU.
Joey's resentment festers, causes issues in the locker room, specifically with Markus. Sam makes a family decision to support his brother. Wojo doesn't figure out how to manage the situation.
Joey and Sam hope locker room issues will go away with Markus going pro. Markus returns.
Joey decides to transfer, Sam makes a family decision to support his brother by transferring too. Wojo does not handle it well, further burning the bridge
Joey and Sam almost make another family decision to go to UW together. Upon reflection, they finally decide to do what's best for them individually. Joey goes to MSU like he always wanted. Sam goes to UVA, the closest runner up in his initial recruitment.
Wojo gets shiitcanned two years later. Sam has a fantastic season at UVA. Joey has a disappointing season at MSU.
I've heard literal dozens versions of the Hausergate drama. This is the version that makes the most sense to me. They're not saints, they're not sinners. They're not selfless, they're not quitters. They're just college students who took awhile to figure out what they wanted out off their college experience and where they could get that. I thank them for their time at MU and wish them nothing but the best. If it weren't for this board bringing them up regularly, I probably would give them as much thought as I've given any other transfer out MUBB.
💯✌🏻
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I’m glad we finally got around to talking about this.
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Pak
Of course the Hausers thought their best interests were elsewhere. That’s why they left. What were those “self interests” in their own minds? On one side of the argument we’re folks who insisted that those “self interests” were more shots and higher usage. That didn’t make sense to me. The other side of the argument was that their “self interests” included playing for coaches who were proven winners and favored a more balanced offensive philosophy. Given their backgrounds and the coaches/programs they chose this made perfect sense.
I don’t think anyone in this whole situation was saint or sinner. Neither does Lens. The haters who refuse to look at this logically? That’s a different story.
Nah, I think you are putting too much of this on Markus and Wojo. Sam seemed absolutely fine playing with Markus for three seasons. And honestly if Joey had gone to MSU in the first place, I think there is zero doubt that Sam would have finished his career at MU.
I think TAMU hit the nail on the head. Joey made the wrong choice and that caused them both to leave. Sure Wojo didn't handle it well no doubt, but the idea that they were driven to play the pure basketball that Tony Bennett and Tom Izzo coach versus the crap basketball that Wojo coaches doesn't really fully stand up to logic.
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Interview with Sam Hauser regarding his choice of Celtics or Timberwolves. Also some commentary on MU and UVA experiences.
https://www.stevenspointjournal.com/story/sports/high-school/basketball/2021/07/30/stevens-point-native-sam-hauser-signs-contract-boston-celtics/5421220001/
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Yawn.
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And honestly if Joey had gone to MSU in the first place, I think there is zero doubt that Sam would have finished his career at MU.
This.
I like the Celtics as a landing spot for Hauser. I’d be surprised if he didn’t get a good NBA run this season.
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Box Score Celtics versus Nuggets NBA Summer League
https://www.nba.com/game/bos-vs-den-1522100018/box-score#box-score
Sam had a typical Sam game playing within the flow . Kind of like his freshman season at MU.
Unfortunately Markus was DNP coaches decision for the Nuggets . I read elsewhere he was not available for the game
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Box Score Celtics versus Nuggets NBA Summer League
https://www.nba.com/game/bos-vs-den-1522100018/box-score#box-score
Sam had a typical Sam game playing within the flow . Kind of like his freshman season at MU.
Unfortunately Markus was DNP coaches decision for the Nuggets . I read elsewhere he was not available for the game
My eyes saw a rather pedestrian effort playing with/against guys fighting for spots 10-15 on a roster. He's going to have to do more than he did last night to get a call up, IMO.
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Unfortunately Markus was DNP coaches decision for the Nuggets . I read elsewhere he was not available for the game
In protocol with a bunch of the roster.
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My eyes saw a rather pedestrian effort playing with/against guys fighting for spots 10-15 on a roster. He's going to have to do more than he did last night to get a call up, IMO.
He is a spot-up shooter who mostly will linger on the perimeter, which is exactly what he did last night. That will be his offensive role. Defensively, he more than held his own. He has a two-way contract, so he probably will see time in the NBA, but he is guaranteed little. We'll see!
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If he hits shots, he will play. If he doesn't, he won't. The rest of his skills are rather run of the mill for the NBA at this point. But who knows?
The NBA lets players develop more than they used to. He will have the opportunity.
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He is a spot-up shooter who mostly will linger on the perimeter, which is exactly what he did last night. That will be his offensive role. Defensively, he more than held his own. He has a two-way contract, so he probably will see time in the NBA, but he is guaranteed little. We'll see!
We'll agree to disagree on this. He was matched up with Bol a few times. Did not match up well. He's going to have to do a little more than linger on the perimeter. There are at least 17 guys with guaranteed contracts with the Celtics. Not too mention Begarin and Lawson. It's an uphill climb for him.
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I don't think anyone reasonably thinks that Hauser will make the Celtics this year. He is on a two-way deal, which means he will be mostly in the G League, and may get a call up due to injury to sit on the end of the bench.
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We'll agree to disagree on this. He was matched up with Bol a few times. Did not match up well. He's going to have to do a little more than linger on the perimeter. There are at least 17 guys with guaranteed contracts with the Celtics. Not too mention Begarin and Lawson. It's an uphill climb for him.
I saw Bol go right through Hauser once; otherwise, I don't remember Bol or any other Nuggets player owning him. I will say I didn't come close to watching every minute of the game, however. Hauser had good help-D position whenever he was on the court, had a couple solid close-outs that helped force missed 3s, got good rebounding position to finish with 5 boards.
But we actually agree on most of this, lawdog. Uphill climb to be sure, as it is for all rookies on 2-way deals. We'll see!
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Who ya got making a roster? S. Hauser or Max Strus?
Oh...I didn't realize Strus is officially on the Heat. Did anyone see this when he was at DePaul?
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Who ya got making a roster? S. Hauser or Max Strus?
Oh...I didn't realize Strus is officially on the Heat. Did anyone see this when he was at DePaul?
Yes. There was talk about Strauss heading into his last year as a fringe NBA guy. He could score in bunches and could sometimes hit from 30’.
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Who ya got making a roster? S. Hauser or Max Strus?
Oh...I didn't realize Strus is officially on the Heat. Did anyone see this when he was at DePaul?
Yes. Strus has good size for a guard-6-6, and could score from deep or on the drive. Thought he had a chance to make a roster.
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Yes. There was talk about Strauss heading into his last year as a fringe NBA guy. He could score in bunches and could sometimes hit from 30’.
He must be a better athlete than Sammy.
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Quicker, more versatile. Shot release is quicker.
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Regardless of the comparison, I'm still shocked Strus has stuck in the league. I don't think he's athletic enough to be a 2 and he's kind of undersized as a 3. He was a good shooter but not a great one. But full marks to him for hustling and finding a spot.
The only Big East alum more surprising to me is McDermott from Butler. He was just a guy and another undersized SF, but he got decent minutes on his two way and he's stuck around.
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Big game from Sam tonight. 6-8 from distance.
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Not only did Hauser hit shot after shot after shot -- when he finally missed with a couple minutes to play, the announcer said something like, "It just seems so weird to see him miss" -- but he also played very well on defense during the time I watched. On one first-half possession, he ended up on Suggs in a switch, cut off Suggs in the lane, and forced a difficult shot that Suggs missed. I am not saying Hauser is a young Iguodala on D. I'm saying he's a good team defender with long arms and intelligence.
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Not only did Hauser hit shot after shot after shot -- when he finally missed with a couple minutes to play, the announcer said something like, "It just seems so weird to see him miss" -- but he also played very well on defense during the time I watched. On one first-half possession, he ended up on Suggs in a switch, cut off Suggs in the lane, and forced a difficult shot that Suggs missed. I am not saying Hauser is a young Iguodala on D. I'm saying he's a good team defender with long arms and intelligence.
Yep, not everyone can be a smothering menace on the perimeter like Davion Mitchell. Or roam and eat up space to make insane plays like Giannis. But there is something to be said on defense for always knowing where to be and not getting lost. You can deal with someone getting beat 1 on 1 if they aren't going to be out of position or completely blow off the ball assignments
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Sam has always had a knack for being on the right place on the floor at the right time. That leads to clean shot opportunities and also helps on the defensive side. Makes him a very easy player for his teammates to play with.
Was nice to see him do well tonight.
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Sam has always had a knack for being on the right place on the floor at the right time. That leads to clean shot opportunities and also helps on the defensive side. Makes him a very easy player for his teammates to play with.
Was nice to see him do well tonight.
True. But remember this is S-League Herman. 85% of those guys don't make an NBA roster.
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True. But remember this is S-League Herman. 85% of those guys don't make an NBA roster.
Though I don't know for sure that Hauser will be an NBA player (how could anybody know that?), I think he will be. He isn't merely good at the very thing that NBA teams value most at this point in time; he is excellent at it.
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True. But remember this is S-League Herman. 85% of those guys don't make an NBA roster.
I think for guys like Sam , Summer league is more of a proof of concept . The visibility is helpful.
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I think for guys like Sam , Summer league is more of a proof of concept . The visibility is helpful.
Outstanding point, 9-9-9.
Hauser is not some one-and-done with a limited body of work. He's been around for a long time and Boston knew exactly what his game was when they signed him. Performances like he had last night merely serve as confirmation.
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Celts officially announcing signing of Sam
https://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pressrelease/celtics-sign-sam-hauser-two-way-contract
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Celts officially announcing signing of Sam
https://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pressrelease/celtics-sign-sam-hauser-two-way-contract
3-ways must be a little more money then, eyn'a?
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I think for Sam, the defense isn’t a huge concern. Realistically, he’s going to be a guy that’s at the end of the bench that may provide some shooting in bursts. They could cover his defense up with other guys.
It certainly would limit his upside, but I think he’s got a path to an NBA roster.
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Do you think they will put Sam up on the wall in the Al of MU players in the NBA?
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Do you think they will put Sam up on the wall in the Al of MU players in the NBA?
Yes, he left Wojo’s program. Wojo thankfully is gone.
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Do you think they will put Sam up on the wall in the Al of MU players in the NBA?
They didn't put Deonte up. I know sam was around longer but that's the only comparison I can think of
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Do you think they will put Sam up on the wall in the Al of MU players in the NBA?
I would say given the fact he had three very good years at MU, yes, they will. Provided he actually stays in the league a while .
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I would say given the fact he had three very good years at MU, yes, they will. Provided he actually stays in the league a while .
If he doesn't make it do you think he will play on the MU TBT team?
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Do you think they will put Sam up on the wall in the Al of MU players in the NBA?
Right next to the Dear Wojo "letter".
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Sam finished up Summer League shooting 46.2 percent from 3 , 50 percent overall and had 9 points a game , 4.8 boards and 2 assists in 21.5 minutes per game.
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Sam finished up Summer League shooting 46.2 percent from 3 , 50 percent overall and had 9 points a game , 4.8 boards and 2 assists in 21.5 minutes per game.
I remain more convinced now than ever that Hauser will play in the NBA.
During Summer League play, I did not see a guy who is a major defensive liability. But I did see a guy who is excellent at the one thing every NBA team desperately wants. That he's also 6-8 and smart matters, too.
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I think he will play in the NBA, but let's not put too much emphasis on how someone looks in summer league. The best in the world are on a beach somewhere.
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When the going gets tough, the Hausers get going. Out the door
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I think he will play in the NBA, but let's not put too much emphasis on how someone looks in summer league. The best in the world are on a beach somewhere.
I said I thought he'd play in the NBA, and you apparently agree.
I wasn't saying he'd be the next Dirk. And I wasn't even suggesting that he was going to be anything more than a garbage-time player ... because I don't know. It's too early to know. The beautiful thing is that we'll get to see!
When the going gets tough, the Hausers get going. Out the door
So you don't think S. Hauser will get time in the NBA, Unk?
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I said I thought he'd play in the NBA, and you apparently agree.
I wasn't saying he'd be the next Dirk. And I wasn't even suggesting that he was going to be anything more than a garbage-time player ... because I don't know. It's too early to know. The beautiful thing is that we'll get to see!
So you don't think S. Hauser will get time in the NBA, Unk?
Probably but he won’t like when things don’t go his way. Letters do even less good in the NBA. No Babies Allowed
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Probably but he won’t like when things don’t go his way. Letters do even less good in the NBA. No Babies Allowed
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Probably but he won’t like when things don’t go his way. Letters do even less good in the NBA. No Babies Allowed
There was a long stretch last night during which Carson Edwards and Payton Pritchard were just jacking up 3s without even looking his way, and I have to admit that I chuckled and thought: "Well, maybe it's time for a letter to the coach."
But seriously, I have enough fond memories of Sam's time at Marquette to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was placed in a no-win situation due to Joey's immaturity and Wojo's poor handling of the issue. So I do find myself rooting for S. Hauser to make it in the association.
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There was a long stretch last night during which Carson Edwards and Payton Pritchard were just jacking up 3s without even looking his way, and I have to admit that I chuckled and thought: "Well, maybe it's time for a letter to the coach."
But seriously, I have enough fond memories of Sam's time at Marquette to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was placed in a no-win situation due to Joey's immaturity and Wojo's poor handling of the issue. So I do find myself rooting for S. Hauser to make it in the association.
Eh, Al wouldn’t have let him near campus
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I said I thought he'd play in the NBA, and you apparently agree.
I wasn't saying he'd be the next Dirk. And I wasn't even suggesting that he was going to be anything more than a garbage-time player ... because I don't know. It's too early to know. The beautiful thing is that we'll get to see!
So you don't think S. Hauser will get time in the NBA, Unk?
You said you “saw someone who wasn’t a major defensive liability.” Let’s see what happens when he plays against better players than he sees at Summer League game.
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Eh, Al wouldn’t have let him near campus
Maybe you’re being facetious, otherwise, you’ve got to be kidding. Any coach would want a player of his caliber. And Al fully understood you needed plenty of high level talent to get to the top.
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Maybe you’re being facetious, otherwise, you’ve got to be kidding. Any coach would want a player of his caliber. And Al fully understood you needed plenty of high level talent to get to the top.
Al wouldn’t take letter writers
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I think he will play in the NBA, but let's not put too much emphasis on how someone looks in summer league. The best in the world are on a beach somewhere.
This! A thousand times this. Saw an article raving about some phenom for the Heat being the back up center. Guy is rail skinny and will be pushed around like a rag doll when beach time is over.
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You said you “saw someone who wasn’t a major defensive liability.” Let’s see what happens when he plays against better players than he sees at Summer League game.
Fair point.
I’ve used the phrase “we’ll see” over and over again.
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Two words: Summer League
That's not to say Sam doesn't have a really important skill-set, and he may in fact stick on a roster, but SL stats essentially mean nothing.
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Did I miss a whole lotta Scoopers claiming that Hauser’s play during Summer League guaranteed him NBA superstar status?
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Did I miss a whole lotta Scoopers claiming that Hauser’s play during Summer League guaranteed him NBA superstar status?
Agreed. I think most talking up Sam are doing it as he passed his first test (at least in our humble basketball minds). I don’t foresee him as more than a 13-15th guy, but I’m a little more confident in him being on an NBA bench now than before SL.
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Did I miss a whole lotta Scoopers claiming that Hauser’s play during Summer League guaranteed him NBA superstar status?
All I'm saying is people should calm down a bit. My synopsis of Summer League is that.... well.....it's Summer League. I once golfed with a former PGA player and was tied with him through three holes. Uhhhh....that didn't last long. :(
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Did I miss a whole lotta Scoopers claiming that Hauser’s play during Summer League guaranteed him NBA superstar status?
Scoop has projection issues.
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Save The Date : December 21
Joey versus Jamal Cain
https://www.theonlycolors.com/2021/8/17/22629158/michigan-state-mens-basketball-will-play-oakland-on-dec-21st
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All I'm saying is people should calm down a bit. My synopsis of Summer League is that.... well.....it's Summer League. I once golfed with a former PGA player and was tied with him through three holes. Uhhhh....that didn't last long. :(
Again, I’m not hearing a bunch of people who are anything other than calm about Hauser’s prospects.
And SL has nothing to do with it. I’ve been saying he’ll have an NBA career long before SL. I even made a bet with keefe!
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Again, I’m not hearing a bunch of people who are anything other than calm about Hauser’s prospects.
And SL has nothing to do with it. I’ve been saying he’ll have an NBA career long before SL. I even made a bet with keefe!
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here.
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Some video highlights of Sam’s best summer league game
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ab_EMkbJ7E8&feature=youtu.be
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Joey changing roster number from 20 to 10. Sam wore 10…
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/08/michigan-state-finalizes-2021-22-roster-with-seven-newcomers.html
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Joey changing roster number from 20 to 10. Sam wore 10…
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/08/michigan-state-finalizes-2021-22-roster-with-seven-newcomers.html
Soft as charmin
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He is half the player they thought they were getting? Only plays one end of the floor?
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He's wearing his emotional maturity age on his back?
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No, he's hoping people think he is actually Sam.
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Good interview with Sam regarding his plans to improve his overall game.
https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2021/09/celtics-sam-hauser-on-how-he-can-stick-in-the-nba-besides-his-3-point-shooting.html
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Joey to get $500 a month. Former MSU walk on who became a billionaire sponsoring team
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/board/104085/Contents/joey-hauser-to-get-paid-500-per-month-170499181/?page=1
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Sam worked on an interesting off court project at UVA
https://www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2021/08/21/sam-hauser-celtics-profile-virginia-vegas
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Mark your calendar now for the Maine Celtics versus Grand Rapid Gold.
Friday February 4 7 PM Grand Rapids at Maine
Sunday February 6 1 PM Grand Rapids at Maine
Thursday February 24 7 PM Maine at Grand Rapids
Sam versus Markus I would say the over under on the combined scoring totals of both players will be 55.
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Mark your calendar now for the Maine Celtics versus Grand Rapid Gold.
Friday February 4 7 PM Grand Rapids at Maine
Sunday February 6 1 PM Grand Rapids at Maine
Thursday February 24 7 PM Maine at Grand Rapids
Sam versus Markus I would say the over under on the combined scoring totals of both players will be 55.
If you're marking your calendar for this, you might need professional help.
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If you're marking your calendar for this, you might need professional help.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Also, you gotta think this is the only season for them to be in Grand Rapids. Makes way more sense for the Nuggets to move them to Fort Collins or Colorado Springs. Even Albuquerque, which had a G League team for awhile, is much better proximity than Grand Rapids.
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When the Pistons pulled their team, we were shocked that another team moved in. Denver makes no sense. If I have nothing else going on, I may go to that game wearing MU stuff.
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When the Pistons pulled their team, we were shocked that another team moved in. Denver makes no sense. If I have nothing else going on, I may go to that game wearing MU stuff.
Denver was one of 3 teams that didn't have an affiliate. They took over the team in April I believe. So makes sense that they just snapped up an available team, instead of starting from scratch. And given it was relatively recent and didn't have a ton of time before summer league and camps, made sense to just keep it as is for now and move next year, most likely.
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When the Pistons pulled their team, we were shocked that another team moved in. Denver makes no sense. If I have nothing else going on, I may go to that game wearing MU stuff.
Even if neither Markus nor Sam are there because they are with the Nuggets and Celtics, respectively?
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A Thursday night in February. Probably not, but it could happen.
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Sam working on defense and shot.
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/lists/nba-boston-celtics-hauser-interview-2021-preseason/
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https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/no-proven-star-but-plenty-of-breakout-candidates-for-michigan-state-basketball.html
Izzo think there is potential for Joey to have a bounce back year. Talks about needing a guard to get him the ball. Bygones. I hope they find a fit.
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https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/no-proven-star-but-plenty-of-breakout-candidates-for-michigan-state-basketball.html
Izzo think there is potential for Joey to have a bounce back year. Talks about needing a guard to get him the ball. Bygones. I hope they find a fit.
First priority to me would be the need to guard someone as good at basketball as I am.
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https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/no-proven-star-but-plenty-of-breakout-candidates-for-michigan-state-basketball.html
Izzo think there is potential for Joey to have a bounce back year. Talks about needing a guard to get him the ball. Bygones. I hope they find a fit.
He couldn’t guard a corpse
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Not last year. Good teams were adjusting their offenses specifically to attack him. A new year and hope springs eternal.
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Not last year. Good teams were adjusting their offenses specifically to attack him. A new year and hope springs eternal.
Any kid that was recruited by Wojo can’t be any good. End of story
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https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/no-proven-star-but-plenty-of-breakout-candidates-for-michigan-state-basketball.html
Izzo think there is potential for Joey to have a bounce back year. Talks about needing a guard to get him the ball. Bygones. I hope they find a fit.
Someone like Markus who controls the ball a lot and who can extend space for a good shooter like Joey.
Oh wait...
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Someone like Markus who controls the ball a lot and who can extend space for a good shooter like Joey.
Oh wait...
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https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/after-disappointing-covid-19-season-michigan-states-joey-hauser-back-to-having-fun-again.html
Joey ready for a bounce back season with Sparty.
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https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/after-disappointing-covid-19-season-michigan-states-joey-hauser-back-to-having-fun-again.html
Joey ready for a bounce back season with Sparty.
I imagine he’ll have fun waving a towel on the bench
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https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/after-disappointing-covid-19-season-michigan-states-joey-hauser-back-to-having-fun-again.html
Joey ready for a bounce back season with Sparty.
Izzo says he will empower Joey to handle the ball more…….
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Izzo says he will empower Joey to handle the ball more…….
Always sad to see an old coach develop dementia
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Always sad to see an old coach develop dementia
lol
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First priority to me would be the need to guard someone as good at basketball as I am.
Did you dunk in high school?
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Any kid that was recruited by Wojo can’t be any good. End of story
Does that include Lewis or am I missing the teal?
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Did you dunk in high school?
Did you play at SLU?
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Does that include Lewis or am I missing the teal?
Shaka will coach him up
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https://twitter.com/Big_Smooth10/status/1456709586845671428?s=20
Come get your idiot boys.
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https://twitter.com/Big_Smooth10/status/1456709586845671428?s=20
Come get your idiot boys.
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Don't feel like hosting it
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https://twitter.com/Big_Smooth10/status/1456709586845671428?s=20
Come get your idiot boys.
Supporting Rodgers?
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Don't feel like hosting it
Least surprising thing posted here today
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Least surprising thing posted here today
The lack of ambition of hosting the image?
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The lack of ambition of hosting the image?
No, a Stevens Point raised Person saying Fraudgers makes a good point
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He's just asking questions, guys.
Also, congrats to the Celtics PR/social media staff for being so on the ball.
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Every day that goes by, Markus looks more and more like the righteous one in the whole Hausershima debacle.
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Every day that goes by, Markus looks more and more like the righteous one in the whole Hausershima debacle.
Fact
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Every day that goes by, Markus looks more and more like the righteous one in the whole Hausershima debacle.
Bullchit, too sides ta da storey, hey?
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Bullchit, too sides ta da storey, hey?
Yeah, I’ve heard them. Hausers were team killers
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Yeah, I’ve heard them. Hausers were team killers
No doubt.
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Yeah, I’ve heard them. Hausers were team killers
+1
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Yeah, I’ve heard them. Hausers were team killers
Don’t hate on 4ever’s precious white knights.
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Don't feel like hosting it
@BigSmoothBrain is more like it
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Yeah, I’ve heard them. Hausers were team killers
Remember when MU didn't recruit Tyler Herro because the Hausers didn't want him around and we all assumed Herro must be a real jag?
Whoops
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Joey is tentatively going to start for Sparty this year.
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Joey is tentatively going to start for Sparty this year.
yes, tentatively is probably a safe way to describe it...o-v-e-r r-a-t-e-d clap-clap clapclapclap
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I remember when Joey was tentatively going to use his Freshman year as a stepping stone to the NBA as a one and done.
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Remember when MU didn't recruit Tyler Herro because the Hausers didn't want him around and we all assumed Herro must be a real jag?
Whoops
That’s an easy one for Doc Dribble. He just blames Wojo and Markus.
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I remember when Joey was tentatively going to use his Freshman year as a stepping stone to the NBA as a one and done.
He was one and done at Marquette.
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He was one and done at Marquette.
Boom! Tower to the hole with authority!
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He was one and done at Marquette.
Technically 1.5 and done.
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Fair
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Technically 1.5 and done.
He checked out with his letter at the 80% mark of the season so "1.2 and flew". Rounds down to one.
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He checked out with his letter at the 80% mark of the season so "1.2 and flew". Rounds down to one.
I wish that was true. Might have won a couple down the stretch without Joey’s turnovers, bricks and horrid defense.
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Joey started ,played 24 minutes, with 8 7 and 3 in Spartans loss to the Jay Hawks
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Joey started ,played 24 minutes, with 8 7 and 3 in Spartans loss to the Jay Hawks
Got torched over and over on defense
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Sounds like Joey is the same player he was at Marquette. How much did his ankle injury in HS impact Joey's lateral mobility and leaping ability? He looked more explosive as a HS junior than he has in college.
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Relative to his competition level.
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Relative to his competition level.
Not just that, but relative to other top prospects like his brother, Sam, and Henry Ellenson.
Joey was quicker than Henry and had better vertical explosion than Sam. Now Joey looks like he has lead feet.
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Joey just peaked early. That’s it.
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Not just that, but relative to other top prospects like his brother, Sam, and Henry Ellenson.
Joey was quicker than Henry and had better vertical explosion than Sam. Now Joey looks like he has lead feet.
Again, relative to his competition. You are comparing him to Sam and Henry. And I am not sure he was quicker than Henry. Compare him to other 6'9 D1 forwards.
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Got torched over and over on defense
I tuned into the game during commercials of other games I was watching. Two out of three times, what I saw was Joey's man beating him downcourt.
It's become kinda fun to rag on him because of his outsized role in effing up a good season, not to mention the entire mutiny, but it is a little sad that a kid who once was thought of as a pro prospect is now a mediocre college player.
Joey's now in Year 3 on Izzo's watch -- including an entire year in which he had nothing else to do but work on his game -- and he's worse now than he was 3 years ago at Marquette despite being surrounded by better talent and a highly regarded coaching staff.
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Again, relative to his competition. You are comparing him to Sam and Henry. And I am not sure he was quicker than Henry. Compare him to other 6'9 D1 forwards.
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I've seen tons of D1 prospects come through the WI HS basketball ranks. I compare where Joey was in high school to other players when they were in HS.
Then I compare how those players performed in college versus how Joey is performing. The college versions of Sam Dekker, Markus Landry, Sam Hauser, Henry Ellenson, and Jeronne Maymon had the speed and athleticism I expected based on their HS performances.
But Joey didn't. That's my observation.
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I've seen tons of D1 prospects come through the WI HS basketball ranks. I compare where Joey was in high school to other players when they were in HS.
Then I compare how those players performed in college versus how Joey is performing. The college versions of Sam Dekker, Markus Landry, Sam Hauser, Henry Ellenson, and Jeronne Maymon had the speed and athleticism I expected based on their HS performances.
But Joey didn't. That's my observation.
The difference in Sam and Joey to me is anticipation. Sam has a 6th sense based up his intuition to overcome his footspeed. Joey never had that, and it shows at the top level he is now playing at. Sam could cheat to a spot, Joey is always behind. It doesn’t mean that Sam didn’t get abused on ISO’s.
I will rely on your expert assessment based on watching him in high school, but on his mix tapes, he never appeared fast to me. Him playing high school football didn’t seem the brightest thing in retrospect, I guess.
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When Sam really emerged as a sophomore at Marquette and Wojo was going after Joey, I asked those who had seen a lot of Joey something along the lines of: "Is Joey really better than Sam? Because if so, he must be one hell of a player."
Many folks chimed in that Joey was bigger, handled the ball better, passed better, just had better all-around offensive skills, etc.
Obviously, we've never seen that at the college level. So either Joey's injury before he started playing college ball was worse than everybody thought, or he was overrated, or Sam was underrated, or some combination of the above.
I like what Dr. B says about the difference in Sam and Joey. Sam is far superior from a basketball-IQ standpoint. He's also been very good at making the very most out of the ability he has. Almost surely harder-working, too. Sam turned himself into a historically good shooter, as well. Joey mostly regressed. It would be easy to blame the Marquette coaching staff ... except he's even worse now at Michigan State.
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Sam is averaging 22 PPG and 7 rebounds in the G League with 55 percent from 3, 11 for 20.
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Sam is averaging 22 PPG and 7 rebounds in the G League with 55 percent from 3, 11 for 20.
G League is to get guys ready for the show. They know how to play to Sam's strengths. And obviously, the biggest strength has always been shooting the ball.
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Sam is averaging 22 PPG and 7 rebounds in the G League with 55 percent from 3, 11 for 20.
I’m not sure it means much. Vander Blue is the second all time leader scorer in the G League.
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I've seen tons of D1 prospects come through the WI HS basketball ranks. I compare where Joey was in high school to other players when they were in HS.
Then I compare how those players performed in college versus how Joey is performing. The college versions of Sam Dekker, Markus Landry, Sam Hauser, Henry Ellenson, and Jeronne Maymon had the speed and athleticism I expected based on their HS performances.
But Joey didn't. That's my observation.
Agreed. Joey was skilled. He was never super-athletic.
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I’m not sure it means much. Vander Blue is the second all time leader scorer in the G League.
Sam will play in a lot more more NBA games than Vander did or will. A lot more. He is elite at the one skill that every NBA team is desperate for.
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Agreed. Joey was skilled. He was never super-athletic.
Really a bad sign for Joey....,
In The Athletic today, there was an article about the KU-MSU matchups and the pro prospects from each team. Joey's name did not appear in the article.
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Sam will play in a lot more more NBA games than Vander did or will. A lot more. He is elite at the one skill that every NBA team is desperate for.
Would not disagree with you there. I have no ill will towards Sam and hope he gets a chance.
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Agreed. Joey was skilled. He was never super-athletic.
Skilled, good size, and at the HS level, that bigger guy who can go inside outside really covers up a lot of deficits.
But get to college, thats no longer unique. He's slow of foot, doesn't seem to have a great work ethic given how little he's progressed, if at all, and he's immature
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Skilled, good size, and at the HS level, that bigger guy who can go inside outside really covers up a lot of deficits.
But get to college, thats no longer unique. He's slow of foot, doesn't seem to have a great work ethic given how little he's progressed, if at all, and he's immature
I've said it before, but it is difficult to get someone to work hard at something that they've never had to work hard because they've always been better at it than everyone they knew.
Unfortunately, the world is a big place, and there will always be someone better.
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I've said it before, but it is difficult to get someone to work hard at something that they've never had to work hard because they've always been better at it than everyone they knew.
Unfortunately, the world is a big place, and there will always be someone better.
But doesn't that happen all the time?
Aren't most 5-star and 4-star recruits (and hell, lots of 3-stars and 2-stars, too) the best player on their teams and even in their leagues when they're in high school? Don't the ones who turn out to be good in college get that way in part because they're willing to work hard, even if they never really had to work that hard in high school?
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But doesn't that happen all the time?
Aren't most 5-star and 4-star recruits (and hell, lots of 3-stars and 2-stars, too) the best player on their teams and even in their leagues when they're in high school? Don't the ones who turn out to be good in college get that way in part because they're willing to work hard, even if they never really had to work that hard in high school?
I would also note that the great majority of these kids (top recruits) play more AAU games than high school games, and in those they can't always count on being by far the best guy on the floor ... or even their own team.
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But doesn't that happen all the time?
Aren't most 5-star and 4-star recruits (and hell, lots of 3-stars and 2-stars, too) the best player on their teams and even in their leagues when they're in high school? Don't the ones who turn out to be good in college get that way in part because they're willing to work hard, even if they never really had to work that hard in high school?
It depends. Very few of those exceptional recruits continue progressing without the work ethic and that starts young. People often don't realize it. I remember when they talked about Tebow was going to be an NFL success cause he "worked so much harder" in some silly statement overlooking the fact that even the best athletes still bust their ass from HS on.
My best friend in college was a FB player. Freakish athlete. All State safety, All conference WR. Best player on every team he played except his HS team cause he played with his older brother who played a few years in the NFL. It all came easy to him. He did what he had to, but he didn't have some insane work ethic. He was pretty open about saying he'd rather play basketball than football. He was an all conference BB player, but there weren't many D1 offers for a 6'2 SF.
In college, he wasn't lazy, he was a good student, did what he had to football and lifting wise, but just kind of coasted. Never was a significant minute gettor even as a RS Senior. He stayed every summer on campus, but just lifted and hung out. Meanwhile, his brother was insane, driven, went back to Michigan for a month each summer to train with some guys he knew that played at UM and MSU. Lifted so much his coaches had to tell him to chill (he set combine records for a time). Always kept getting better. But my buddy never had to go 150%, cause his 80/90/100% was good enough and once he was in college, he was fine just being on the team and figuring his life out after.
So either you have the "im gonna do whatever it takes" even if you're killing fools at lower levels, cause you have your eye to the future. Or you don't. Same as being a good student. You can get good grades without having to study in middle or HS, but then college is a bleak reality if you never learned how to study and its hard AF to learn at that point.
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It depends. Very few of those exceptional recruits continue progressing without the work ethic and that starts young. People often don't realize it. I remember when they talked about Tebow was going to be an NFL success cause he "worked so much harder" in some silly statement overlooking the fact that even the best athletes still bust their ass from HS on.
My best friend in college was a FB player. Freakish athlete. All State safety, All conference WR. Best player on every team he played except his HS team cause he played with his older brother who played a few years in the NFL. It all came easy to him. He did what he had to, but he didn't have some insane work ethic. He was pretty open about saying he'd rather play basketball than football. He was an all conference BB player, but there weren't many D1 offers for a 6'2 SF.
In college, he wasn't lazy, he was a good student, did what he had to football and lifting wise, but just kind of coasted. Never was a significant minute gettor even as a RS Senior. He stayed every summer on campus, but just lifted and hung out. Meanwhile, his brother was insane, driven, went back to Michigan for a month each summer to train with some guys he knew that played at UM and MSU. Lifted so much his coaches had to tell him to chill (he set combine records for a time). Always kept getting better. But my buddy never had to go 150%, cause his 80/90/100% was good enough and once he was in college, he was fine just being on the team and figuring his life out after.
So either you have the "im gonna do whatever it takes" even if you're killing fools at lower levels, cause you have your eye to the future. Or you don't. Same as being a good student. You can get good grades without having to study in middle or HS, but then college is a bleak reality if you never learned how to study and its hard AF to learn at that point.
100% all of this.
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So either you have the "im gonna do whatever it takes" even if you're killing fools at lower levels, cause you have your eye to the future. Or you don't. Same as being a good student. You can get good grades without having to study in middle or HS, but then college is a bleak reality if you never learned how to study and its hard AF to learn at that point.
I'm sure all that you describe here is true in many cases. But it would be very unfair to assume that for every high school star - or even a majority - who doesn't progress on the next level, it's a result of them not working hard enough or not wanting it enough.
For all sorts of reasons, everybody has a different athletic ceiling and they reach it on a different schedule. Some kids hit that ceiling at 17, and other kids passing them by after that isn't a reflection of their character. It's more likely a reflection of their genes and uniqueness.
We make the same mistake the other way, fwiw. When some small school kid who was lightly recruited out of high school develops into a star, we marvel over their hard work and dedication, when in reality they hit their peak a little later than their peer group, and they didn't just catch up in college, they zoomed on by,
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It depends. Very few of those exceptional recruits continue progressing without the work ethic and that starts young. People often don't realize it. I remember when they talked about Tebow was going to be an NFL success cause he "worked so much harder" in some silly statement overlooking the fact that even the best athletes still bust their ass from HS on.
My best friend in college was a FB player. Freakish athlete. All State safety, All conference WR. Best player on every team he played except his HS team cause he played with his older brother who played a few years in the NFL. It all came easy to him. He did what he had to, but he didn't have some insane work ethic. He was pretty open about saying he'd rather play basketball than football. He was an all conference BB player, but there weren't many D1 offers for a 6'2 SF.
In college, he wasn't lazy, he was a good student, did what he had to football and lifting wise, but just kind of coasted. Never was a significant minute gettor even as a RS Senior. He stayed every summer on campus, but just lifted and hung out. Meanwhile, his brother was insane, driven, went back to Michigan for a month each summer to train with some guys he knew that played at UM and MSU. Lifted so much his coaches had to tell him to chill (he set combine records for a time). Always kept getting better. But my buddy never had to go 150%, cause his 80/90/100% was good enough and once he was in college, he was fine just being on the team and figuring his life out after.
So either you have the "im gonna do whatever it takes" even if you're killing fools at lower levels, cause you have your eye to the future. Or you don't. Same as being a good student. You can get good grades without having to study in middle or HS, but then college is a bleak reality if you never learned how to study and its hard AF to learn at that point.
Agree with most of this.
I'm sure all that you describe here is true in many cases. But it would be very unfair to assume that for every high school star - or even a majority - who doesn't progress on the next level, it's a result of them not working hard enough or not wanting it enough.
For all sorts of reasons, everybody has a different athletic ceiling and they reach it on a different schedule. Some kids hit that ceiling at 17, and other kids passing them by after that isn't a reflection of their character. It's more likely a reflection of their genes and uniqueness.
We make the same mistake the other way, fwiw. When some small school kid who was lightly recruited out of high school develops into a star, we marvel over their hard work and dedication, when in reality they hit their peak a little later than their peer group, and they didn't just catch up in college, they zoomed on by,
Agree with this, too.
As is the case with most things, it's more complex than just saying something happened (or didn't happen) because of this one or two things.
I stand by my belief that most athletes who go on to greatness have worked very, very hard to get there. I certainly never meant to imply that those who failed to achieve greatness didn't work hard.
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I'm not saying Joey Hauser was ever a great athlete, but on a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say he was a 6 before the ankle injury.
After the ankle injury, he looks like a 3. Just no lateral or vertical explosion whatsoever.
I agree with Dr. B's assessment of Sam Hauser. Sam has a great basketball IQ and maximizes his average athleticism (5 out of 10). Joey doesn't have the same sense of positioning and anticipation, adding to his defensive struggles.
For all the hype Joey had, he's certainly underachieved. Like others have said, maybe he lacks the drive to be great. Sam and Joey had similar freshman stats, but Sam became an all conference performer as an upperclassman. Joey isn't close to that level.
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I'm not saying Joey Hauser was ever a great athlete, but on a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say he was a 6 before the ankle injury.
After the ankle injury, he looks like a 3. Just no lateral or vertical explosion whatsoever.
I agree with Dr. B's assessment of Sam Hauser. Sam has a great basketball IQ and maximizes his average athleticism (5 out of 10). Joey doesn't have the same sense of positioning and anticipation, adding to his defensive struggles.
For all the hype Joey had, he's certainly underachieved. Like others have said, maybe he lacks the drive to be great. Sam and Joey had similar freshman stats, but Sam became an all conference performer as an upperclassman. Joey isn't close to that level.
Sam was also robbed of being some type of all conference as a sophomore. If we'd finished as a tournament team they all would've been given higher accolades
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Joey had 12 and 12 against Western Michigan Friday . Slowly working his way out of Izzos dog house .
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Joey having a tough game against Butler
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Having paralyzing flashbacks of being there with Markus?
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Having paralyzing flashbacks of being there with Markus "the cancer"?
FIFY
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Joey out with Injury
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/11/joey-hauser-sits-with-injury-malik-hall-steps-up-for-michigan-state-vs-emu.html
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Joey out with Injury
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/11/joey-hauser-sits-with-injury-malik-hall-steps-up-for-michigan-state-vs-emu.html
Replacement went for 15 and 9.
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In more meaningful Hauser news ... Sam made his NBA debut tonight.
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401360067
Entered with 50.9 seconds left and Boston up 109-98, missed the only shot he took (a 3-pointer), and left with 10.6 seconds left after he and the other 4 scrubs had to be replaced because OKC had cut the lead to 109-105. Celtics won 111-105.
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Replacement went for 15 and 9.
Joey=Wally Pipp?
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Joey=Wally Pipp?
Well, he was a real pip for Marquette. Put his unique stamp on the program, that's for sure.
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Look, it is water under the bridge, but I don't think Joey was all wrong with his concerns about the team.
Still don't like him and the way he handled things, but we were too Markus-centric and our opponents knew it!
On to bigger and better things! Hope Sam distinguishes himself in the NBA!
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https://twitter.com/spartanhoops_dk/status/1463561636816506881?s=21
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https://twitter.com/spartanhoops_dk/status/1463561636816506881?s=21
Thanks, Markus.
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I will say that it is pretty wild that Joey has 2 more assists than turnovers over the course of his career so far. For an unselfish, team first player who does not care one iota about his own stats or shot attempts and only wants to play the game the right way, that doesn't seem great.
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https://twitter.com/spartanhoops_dk/status/1463561636816506881?s=21
Deleted, what did it say?
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Deleted, what did it say?
That particular fan was tired of Joey Hauser’s lack of defense (something a fire hydrant) and no assists and too many turnovers
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It's just too bad that the infamous career-killer, Tom Izzo, has kept Joey from realizing the potential he showed under proven NBA-player-maker Steve Wojciechowski.
Seriously, Joey has some skills. He showed them several times at Marquette, especially the first half of his only season here. And he showed them a few times early on with MSU; I remember him having a huge game against Madison.
But he has serious limitations that have been chronicled repeatedly, so if he isn't at his very, very best -- which for him means hitting lots of shots -- he is a liability.
It happens. He isn't the first highly rated high school kid who fails to come within miles of living up to the hype, and he won't be the last.
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I have moved on from Joey. Spartan nation has not.
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I have moved on from Joey. Spartan nation has not.
He's their problem now. ;D
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Malik Hall the replacement for Joey (aka Wally Pip) to continued to play well and went 24-7 with 9-9 in the Spartans win against Loyola.
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Malik Hall the replacement for Joey (aka Wally Pip) to continued to play well and went 24-7 with 9-9 in the Spartans win against Loyola.
4-3-2-1 for Joey:
4 points, 3 turnovers, 2 shots, 1 bucket.
He did have 6 defensive rebounds in his 17 minutes.
UPDATE:
Hauser hits 2 first-half 3s to help MSU take a double-digit lead over UConn in the Atlantis title game. Doesn't score again the rest of the way and plays sparingly down the stretch as MSU rallies to victory after blowing the early lead.
Box score line: 6 points on 2-7 shooting, 6 rebounds, 1 turnover in 19 minutes.
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Maybe Markus didn’t pass him the ball because bad things usually happen when he gets the ball.
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Vanilla soft serve looked extra soft against Baylor.
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Vanilla soft serve looked extra soft against Baylor.
Joey 6 -4-1 ,1-5 from the field ,in 25 minutes . MSU blown out by Baylor
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https://www.si.com/college/virginia/basketball/sam-hauser-leads-nba-g-league-in-threes
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https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2021/11/30/michigan-state-basketball-tom-izzo-louisville-preview/8795847002/
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I just turned it on. Unless my eyes are deceiving me it appears Joseph Hauser is riding some pine.
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I just turned it on. Unless my eyes are deceiving me it appears Joseph Hauser is riding some pine.
He had an early turnover and they took him out. They’re a much better team when he’s on the bench.
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He had an early turnover and they took him out. They’re a much better team when he’s on the bench.
Is it letter time?? I see Izzo put him in when they had the game in hand.
And then subbed him when the lead dissipated.
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Is it letter time?? I see Izzo put him in when they had the game in hand.
Joey:
(https://c.tenor.com/4l-_su_5g9gAAAAC/ron-swanson-parks-and-recreation.gif)
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Joey had another lousy game . Some how he got his starting spot back tonight . His previous replacement Malik Hall had another good game .
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I can’t believe how y’all pick on Vanilla Soft Serve.
He had almost as many points as fouls, ya know!
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I can’t believe how y’all pick on Vanilla Soft Serve.
He had almost as many points as fouls, ya know!
He may be more inclined towards epistolary pursuits?
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Incase you missed the aftermath
https://twitter.com/bfquinn/status/1466206594140573702?s=21
What a mess
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It’s quite a pickle for Izzo.
He talked up Joey all off-season, even said they might try running the offense through him. But he now realizes that they’re actually better with Hall on the court.
But Izzo needs to keep Joey engaged because he never knows if he’ll need Joey due to injury or illness or foul trouble.
And then there’s next season … does he want Joey to stick around or will he encourage Joey to go elsewhere?
Life was simpler for Izzo when he thought Joey could actually play high-level basketball.
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It’s quite a pickle for Izzo.
He talked up Joey all off-season, even said they might try running the offense through him. But he now realizes that they’re actually better with Hall on the court.
But Izzo needs to keep Joey engaged because he never knows if he’ll need Joey due to injury or illness or foul trouble.
And then there’s next season … does he want Joey to stick around or will he encourage Joey to go elsewhere?
Life was simpler for Izzo when he thought Joey could actually play high-level basketball.
What's the word for fear of letters? Epistaphobia?
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What's the word for fear of letters? Epistaphobia?
That's funny.
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Guys. He's not writing any letters. This is what he wanted. A coach who had a clue. He didn't want touches. Didn't care how much he played or scored. He didn't care about minutes. He wanted wins and playing the game "the right way." That's all that mattered to him. He's thrilled by this. He even told Izzo to bench him last year. The guy is as selfless as they come. He gets it. He is totally fine watching from the pine. Just wants wins and quality basketball.
The meat eating lovers told us so. It's gospel.
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Joey:
(https://c.tenor.com/4l-_su_5g9gAAAAC/ron-swanson-parks-and-recreation.gif)
Incredible gif usage.
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Guys. He's not writing any letters. This is what he wanted. A coach who had a clue. He didn't want touches. Didn't care how much he played or scored. He didn't care about minutes. He wanted wins and playing the game "the right way." That's all that mattered to him. He's thrilled by this. He even told Izzo to bench him last year. The guy is as selfless as they come. He gets it. He is totally fine watching from the pine. Just wants wins and quality basketball.
The meat eating lovers told us so. It's gospel.
(https://64-media-tumblr-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/64.media.tumblr.com/c3544e645c357f4246e19d8bb46d59d1/tumblr_ovdq8w4awO1qm6uzxo1_r1_400.gifv)
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He is not the first player that Izzo has had a public animated confrontation with. He won't be the last. The onus is now on young Mr. Hauser. Izzo is not going to change for Joey. Will Joey do what Izzo wants?
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He is not the first player that Izzo has had a public animated confrontation with. He won't be the last. The onus is now on young Mr. Hauser. Izzo is not going to change for Joey. Will Joey do what Izzo wants?
What does history tell us?
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What does history tell us?
#TransferPortalWatch
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Oakland's going to need a "go-to guy" next year when Jamal goes to the Association.
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Get the band back together at UWSP. Can hire Mr. Anderson and Mr. Hauser and play the game the right way.
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Get the band back together at UWSP. Can hire Mr. Anderson and Mr. Hauser and play the game the right way.
I gotta wonder if Trevor Anderson regrets his decision to transfer to Madison. He starts all 20 games he plays in as a freshman at UWGB, playing nearly 30 mpg and averaging almost 10 points.
He then transfers to Madison, redshirts his first year and plays three more seasons. Never starts. Averages at best 14 mpg.
Now he is at Valpo, started every game they have played. Over 30 mpg and scoring 11 per game.
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I gotta wonder if Trevor Anderson regrets his decision to transfer to Madison. He starts all 20 games he plays in as a freshman at UWGB, playing nearly 30 mpg and averaging almost 10 points.
He then transfers to Madison, redshirts his first year and plays three more seasons. Never starts. Averages at best 14 mpg.
Now he is at Valpo, started every game they have played. Over 30 mpg and scoring 11 per game.
I mean, if it was his absolute dream school, maybe it was worth it? Idk. He was never going to be a superstar or future pro.
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I gotta wonder if Trevor Anderson regrets his decision to transfer to Madison. He starts all 20 games he plays in as a freshman at UWGB, playing nearly 30 mpg and averaging almost 10 points.
He then transfers to Madison, redshirts his first year and plays three more seasons. Never starts. Averages at best 14 mpg.
Now he is at Valpo, started every game they have played. Over 30 mpg and scoring 11 per game.
"The Wisconsinn Way"
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I gotta wonder if Trevor Anderson regrets his decision to transfer to Madison. He starts all 20 games he plays in as a freshman at UWGB, playing nearly 30 mpg and averaging almost 10 points.
He then transfers to Madison, redshirts his first year and plays three more seasons. Never starts. Averages at best 14 mpg.
Now he is at Valpo, started every game they have played. Over 30 mpg and scoring 11 per game.
Yeah, but he was great buddies with the Hausers, so we got all those cool rumors for weeks that they were going to Madison as a dynamic duo that would stick it to Marquette.
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Joey has a bucket tonight and 5pts.
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Joey has a bucket tonight and 5pts.
Holy Toledo!
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10 and 8 against Minnesota.
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I noticed Izzo subbing him out on the defensive end in crunch time.
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Izzo is wise.
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I noticed Izzo subbing him out on the defensive end in crunch time.
The coaching Joey was hoping for.
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Joey spent some time at the 5. Minnesota doesn't have a lot of size
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The coaching Joey was hoping for.
He’s pretty unselfish
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I noticed Izzo subbing him out on the defensive end in crunch time.
cuz no one would pass him the ball while on defense
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I noticed Izzo subbing him out on the defensive end in crunch time.
All kidding aside (and it's difficult not to, but) this is the best way to allocate minutes to him whenever possible. He DOES have offensive skills, when he isn't committing turnovers.
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https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/12/michigan-state-sees-progress-in-joey-hauser-after-slow-start.html
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https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/12/michigan-state-sees-progress-in-joey-hauser-after-slow-start.html
Izzo hinted they may be using him at the five some more
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Sparty is playing good ball today. Sharing the ball extremely well. Found their transition game.
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Sparty is playing good ball today. Sharing the ball extremely well. Found their transition game.
Led to a HUGE game for Vanilla Soft Serve: 7 whole points, 3 whole rebounds!
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I realize it was only Penn State, but he was moving the ball and staying with his man.
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I realize it was only Penn State, but he was moving the ball and staying with his man.
Didn't see the game, so I'll take your word for it. I guess that's proving the old saying "The box score doesn't tell the whole story." Joey for Sparty SOTG!
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I didn't say that. He played a decent game.
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Sam in the NBA scoring column. Got a 3 against the Bucks.
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Sam in the NBA scoring column. Got a 3 against the Bucks.
First of many. Elite shooters find jobs.
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Sam on Celtics’ Covid protocol list.
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First of many. Elite shooters find jobs.
Stephen Curry record in danger?
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Stephen Curry record in danger?
Well, you got me there.
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Sam on Celtics’ Covid protocol list.
Great way to stay on the NBA roster and not be sent down to the G league
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Well, you got me there.
I wasn’t busting on your observation, btw. I agree with you. Just having some fun about a single 3 point make.
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I wasn’t busting on your observation, btw. I agree with you. Just having some fun about a single 3 point make.
Ah ... I missed it. Thanks for the explainer.
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Big match up tonight. Jamal versus Joey.
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Big match up tonight. Jamal versus Joey.
If my eyes aren't deceiving me I see that Jamal is 4-5 with 10 pts so far
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If my eyes aren't deceiving me I see that Jamal is 4-5 with 10 pts so far
Joey must be guarding him.
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Joey played 20 min and 5 pts Jamal played 40 min and 20 pts 8-)
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Jamal had more rebounds and less turnovers and fouls too.
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5 pts ... 5 reb ... 4 asst ... 3 fouls ... 2 turnovers ... 1 steal.
Joey has mastered the sextuple-single.
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Joey must be guarding him.
Joey was "guarding" Jamal here:
https://twitter.com/OaklandMBB/status/1473467598272712707?s=20
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Joey was "guarding" Jamal here:
https://twitter.com/OaklandMBB/status/1473467598272712707?s=20
At least he didn’t get a taste of Jamal’s nutsack.
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Joey was "guarding" Jamal here:
https://twitter.com/OaklandMBB/status/1473467598272712707?s=20
Think Izzo-Dukiet might have to write a letter requesting Joey transfer
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Joey was "guarding" Jamal here:
https://twitter.com/OaklandMBB/status/1473467598272712707?s=20
That was Markus' fault.
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At least he didn’t get a taste of Jamal’s nutsack.
At least Joey can say he got to sniff the NBA.
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Joey was "guarding" Jamal here:
https://twitter.com/OaklandMBB/status/1473467598272712707?s=20
I could watch that 1,000 times.
At least he didn’t get a taste of Jamal’s nutsack.
He'd have had to actually stay in front of Jamal for that to have happened.
Think Izzo-Dukiet might have to write a letter requesting Joey transfer
Too funny, Unk.
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At least Joey can say he got to sniff the NBA.
Well done sir. Well done.
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At least Joey can say he got to sniff the NBA.
Fan-tas-tic
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https://www.freep.com/picture-gallery/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2021/12/22/michigan-state-basketball-oakland-photos-little-caesars-arena/8990355002/
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There was no doubt in Jamal’s mind about what he was gonna do.
I’d guess he did the exact same thing dozens of times in practice when they were both here.
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With the Celtics decimated by Covid, it would have been a great opportunity for Sam to get some real playing time. Unfortunately, he was one of the players who had to enter the protocol. I thought he might be available for today's game based on the timing of when he went on the list, but I didn't see his name mentioned among the handful of Celtics who might be coming off the list to be eligible for today.
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With the Celtics decimated by Covid, it would have been a great opportunity for Sam to get some real playing time. Unfortunately, he was one of the players who had to enter the protocol. I thought he might be available for today's game based on the timing of when he went on the list, but I didn't see his name mentioned among the handful of Celtics who might be coming off the list to be eligible for today.
He’s unvaccinated, so he doesn’t get off the list early, right?
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But he wrote a very strongly worded letter, doesn’t that get him off early?
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He’s unvaccinated, so he doesn’t get off the list early, right?
He’s not? Lol. You’d think someone who is looking to stick on an NBA roster would do anything possible to get his opportunity. With guy’s missing time, getting your vaccination is one way to ensure you get extra opportunities.
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He’s unvaccinated, so he doesn’t get off the list early, right?
Source?
I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't know and I hadn't seen that mentioned.
If he really isn't vaccinated ... wow. That's his "personal choice," yes -- his personal choice to hurt his career before it ever gets started.
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He’s not? Lol. You’d think someone who is looking to stick on an NBA roster would do anything possible to get his opportunity. With guy’s missing time, getting your vaccination is one way to ensure you get extra opportunities.
He’s a born loser. Not surprised he’s not vaccinated. He’s a quitter
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Source?
I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't know and I hadn't seen that mentioned.
If he really isn't vaccinated ... wow. That's his "personal choice," yes -- his personal choice to hurt his career before it ever gets started.
He had some hot vaccine takes that were deleted.
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He had some hot vaccine takes that were deleted.
^
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He’s not? Lol. You’d think someone who is looking to stick on an NBA roster would do anything possible to get his opportunity. With guy’s missing time, getting your vaccination is one way to ensure you get extra opportunities.
You guys are losers. Squirting your pants over who is and isn’t vaccinated. It’s not anyone’s business. Get a life already and move on, or don’t. Life is moving on without you guys.
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You guys are losers. Squirting your pants over who is and isn’t vaccinated. It’s not anyone’s business. Get a life already and move on, or don’t. Life is moving on without you guys.
Well, he had a chance to get a lot of meaningful minutes. For a rookie looking to stay in the NBA, that’s a pretty big deal. But he couldn’t get them because he apparently didn’t get vaccinated. Oops! Life is moving on without him because of his dumb choices.
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Well, he had a chance to get a lot of meaningful minutes. For a rookie looking to stay in the NBA, that’s a pretty big deal. But he couldn’t get them because he apparently didn’t get vaccinated. Oops! Life is moving on without him because of his dumb choices.
It’s your opinion that he makes dumb choices. I am sure he cares an awful lot about your opinion about his choices. I’m sure he doesn’t care about your choices.
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Well, he had a chance to get a lot of meaningful minutes. For a rookie looking to stay in the NBA, that’s a pretty big deal. But he couldn’t get them because he apparently didn’t get vaccinated. Oops! Life is moving on without him because of his dumb choices.
I’m sure playing in the Fiserv today would’ve been a big deal for Sammy.
It’s not my business, but it’s certainly bad business by The Hausers.
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I’m sure playing in the Fiserv today would’ve been a big deal for Sammy.
It’s not my business, but it’s certainly bad business by The Hausers.
Good call. Plus, when you throw it up on the internet, you make it everyone’s business. Just like it’s his choice not to get the vaccine, it was his choice to let everyone know where he stands.
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He had some hot vaccine takes that were deleted.
Thanks for the reply.
Sad to see another victim of Covid-related disinformation.
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You guys are losers. Squirting your pants over who is and isn’t vaccinated. It’s not anyone’s business. Get a life already and move on, or don’t. Life is moving on without you guys.
Nah, he made it everyone's business when he offered his stupid baby brained take on the matter.
But we all knew Sam was a coward the day he left over his little brother's temper tantrum... Which is why he deleted his tweets.
He played the game of social media, and lost. He should own his mistakes, and you shouldn't be defending a grown man's stupidity.
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You guys are losers. Squirting your pants over who is and isn’t vaccinated. It’s not anyone’s business. Get a life already and move on, or don’t. Life is moving on without you guys.
Suppose your right. Life is moving on. Just a slightly higher percentage of the vaxed get to move on, especially without side effects.
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It’s your opinion that he makes dumb choices. I am sure he cares an awful lot about your opinion about his choices. I’m sure he doesn’t care about your choices.
He made a dumb choice and let his teammates down. But he’s an expert in that field
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It’s your opinion that he makes dumb choices. I am sure he cares an awful lot about your opinion about his choices. I’m sure he doesn’t care about your choices.
Lol. You really don’t understand what message boards are about so you. Sorry your worldview gets challenged here.
It was clearly a dumb choice. He had the opportunity to play meaningful minutes in a profession that he has dedicated his life to, but one in which he is a marginal talent. But he chose to believe misinformation instead.
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Lol. You really don’t understand what message boards are about so you. Sorry your worldview gets challenged here.
It was clearly a dumb choice. He had the opportunity to play meaningful minutes in a profession that he has dedicated his life to, but one in which he is a marginal talent. But he chose to believe misinformation instead.
This. He let down his teammates, his organization, his profession and, mostly, himself.
That's not "opinion," it's fact.
How anybody could take any other "side" to this is comical.
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It’s your opinion that he makes dumb choices. I am sure he cares an awful lot about your opinion about his choices. I’m sure he doesn’t care about your choices.
No, it's data, and science. If both you and Sam are too dumb to understand that, oh well.
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seriously, you all are going to chase after not-n00b's bait everytime?
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Sam played double digit minutes tonight. So apparently his unvaxxed demise was exaggerated
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Sam played double digit minutes tonight. So apparently his unvaxxed demise was exaggerated
Didn’t contribute much in a loss to a wolves team that was missing just about every player of note.
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Didn’t contribute much in a loss to a wolves team that was missing just about every player of note.
Congrats to Sam. First NBA bucket.
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Congrats to Sam. First NBA bucket.
No it wasn’t
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No it wasn’t
Oh...has he been lighting it up? I thought it was his first NBA game.
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Oh...has he been lighting it up? I thought it was his first NBA game.
It was his 4th. First game with more than 5 minutes though.
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It was his 4th. First game with more than 5 minutes though.
He might have had 5 more games to establish himself, including the Xmas Day showcase, had he not bought into the lies being peddled by the Vaccine Disinformation Society.
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Oh...has he been lighting it up? I thought it was his first NBA game.
No and to be fair I think it was like only his 2nd basket of his career. But he had played and scored prior to it.
If he stays clean of the virus he should keep getting a few shots
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No and to be fair I think it was like only his 2nd basket of his career. But he had played and scored prior to it.
If he stays clean of the virus he should keep getting a few shots
If he would have gotten two, he could have had more! *rim shot*
Thanks, I’ll be here all week. Tip your waiters.
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Joey with his High Point of the season so far. Currently playing on the Big 10 network.
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When you’re mighty High Point you can’t stop Vanilla Soft Serve, you can only hope to contain him.
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17 and 11. +17 (2nd best in the team). His +/- has been amongst the best on the team. 5/8 from the floor.
But sure, keep obsessing over and hating on a kid who went where he wanted to be and should have been all along after sacrificing to please others, and starts for on top ten team.
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17 and 11. +17 (2nd best in the team). His +/- has been amongst the best on the team. 5/8 from the floor.
But sure, keep obsessing over and hating on a kid who went where he wanted to be and should have been all along after sacrificing to please others, and starts for on top ten team.
I mean he entered the game shooting like 35% from the floor and under 30% from 3
You act like it’s completely misguided.
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Sam played double digit minutes tonight. So apparently his unvaxxed demise was exaggerated
Never stops the Mope Squad from full condemnation.
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Never stops the Mope Squad from full condemnation.
As he should be. There’s no reason not to get vaccination. Seems like the Mope Squad would be the people the condemnation is being thrown at.
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I mean he entered the game shooting like 35% from the floor and under 30% from 3
You act like it’s completely misguided.
You don’t think his real shooting % of 46% is any good?!? Or that Izzo has to yank him off the court when they need stops on defense?
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As he should be. There’s no reason not to get vaccination. Seems like the Mope Squad would be the people the condemnation is being thrown at.
Ever hear of myocarditis? Not long ago menopausal women were prescribed estrogen replacement therapy. Later, it was found many of these women were diagnosed with cancer. Cause and effect was determined. What are the longterm effects of the vaccination? The correct answer is...we don't know, aina?
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Sam played double digit minutes tonight. So apparently his unvaxxed demise was exaggerated
I, for one, didn't say he faced a "demise" or that he ruined his career. What I said was that by falling prey to vaccine disinformation, Sam missed an opportunity to play double-digit minutes in several games.
First, the Celtics really needed him because they were so shorthanded, so he let down his team. Second, players in his situation are showcasing themselves every minute they are on the court -- not only for their current team but for every team in the league -- so he let down himself.
I've always appreciated Sam's work ethic, basketball IQ and pure shooting stroke.
It's OK to say that his decision hurt his team and potentially hurt his career without saying he's garbage.
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Ever hear of myocarditis? What are the longterm effects of the vaccination? The correct answer is...we don't know, aina?
Heard of myocarditis. It is also a potential long time effect of getting covid.
Longterm effects aren't a thing. What do you expect to happen, a second brain cell to grow in your empty brain cavity and keep the other company?
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I, for one, didn't say he faced a "demise" or that he ruined his career. What I said was that by falling prey to vaccine disinformation, Sam missed an opportunity to play double-digit minutes in several games.
First, the Celtics really needed him because they were so shorthanded, so he let down his team. Second, players in his situation are showcasing themselves every minute they are on the court -- not only for their current team but for every team in the league -- so he let down himself.
I've always appreciated Sam's work ethic, basketball IQ and pure shooting stroke.
It's OK to say that his decision hurt his team and potentially hurt his career without saying he's garbage.
Not defending the quitter here, but:
1. Do we know he's not vaccinated?
2. How many of the NBA players in the Covid protocol are vaccinated?
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It was good to see Joey hit some shots. The crowd gave him a nice ovation at the end.
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Not defending the quitter here, but:
1. Do we know he's not vaccinated?
2. How many of the NBA players in the Covid protocol are vaccinated?
1. His vaccination status was discussed earlier in the thread. Nobody "knows" for certain, but the combination of now-deleted social-media posts in which he expressed anti-vax sentiments and the length of his required quarantine led to the reasonable conclusion that he's unvaccinated.
2. That information might or might not be out there for those who want to research it.
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1. His vaccination status was discussed earlier in the thread. Nobody "knows" for certain, but the combination of now-deleted social-media posts in which he expressed anti-vax sentiments and the length of his required quarantine led to the reasonable conclusion that he's unvaccinated.
2. That information might or might not be out there for those who want to research it.
He was in the NBA protocol for 10 days, which was the standard time for vaccinated players who had Covid. According to a press release 97% of the NBA players were vaccinated. That would leave about 15 or so players that were unvaccinated. Odds are, he is.
Now I need to shower after defending the quitter.
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Iz he allowed ta play in NY, hey?
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Iz he allowed ta play in NY, hey?
Visiting unvaccinated players are allowed to play in NY.
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See, that's just more hypocrisy, then, with this fluster and the rules of behavior, aina?
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See, that's just more hypocrisy, then, with this fluster and the rules of behavior, aina?
I would be fine if it were limited to all players. But my guess is the city felt that it was easier to deal with New York based teams that play 40+ games at home.
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You're correct. But again, this all speaks to the illogical and nonsensical rules that people concoct in their heads and then convince others that it is undeniable truth. This entire mess for the past 2 years has shown how sheepish and weak most people really are, hey?
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This entire mess for the past 2 years has shown how sheepish and weak most people really are, hey?
Yep. Near the top of that list are graduates of Marquette Dental School.
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You're correct. But again, this all speaks to the illogical and nonsensical rules that people concoct in their heads and then convince others that it is undeniable truth. This entire mess for the past 2 years has shown how sheepish and weak most people really are, hey?
Yeah, and a lot of them are dead and buried by their loved ones.
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This entire mess for the past 2 years has shown how sheepish and weak selfish most people really are, hey?
FIFY
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He was in the NBA protocol for 10 days, which was the standard time for vaccinated players who had Covid. According to a press release 97% of the NBA players were vaccinated. That would leave about 15 or so players that were unvaccinated. Odds are, he is.
Now I need to shower after defending the quitter.
Fair. Some started by saying "if it's true" and then it became accepted truth after his deleted posts were revealed. I'll definitely go back to "if it's true" if I talk about that issue again at all regarding Sam. I hope we don't have to talk about it again, though.
As with all former Marquette guys now in the NBA, I wish him success ... despite him quitting on our program.
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I would be fine if it were limited to all players. But my guess is the city felt that it was easier to deal with New York based teams that play 40+ games at home.
it would be easier? well yeah, but what about all those "super spreaders' invading the city? why can't kyrie play just a few games for the nets then? he's probably coming in from jersey, just like a visiting player eyn'a?
i'd call new york on their vaccination discrimination. run around on the floor breathing and spitting all over everyone, then go to the bench to wear a mask, sometimes, sometimes not covering the nose. then pull it off to scream out instructions or a cheer. hug, shake hands, fist bump...but don't get too close to post game interview people, then walk off floor arm in arm.
you're just not as smart as all those voices in your head tell you flooffer-
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it would be easier? well yeah, but what about all those "super spreaders' invading the city? why can't kyrie play just a few games for the nets then? he's probably coming in from jersey, just like a visiting player eyn'a?
i'd call new york on their vaccination discrimination. run around on the floor breathing and spitting all over everyone, then go to the bench to wear a mask, sometimes, sometimes not covering the nose. then pull it off to scream out instructions or a cheer. hug, shake hands, fist bump...but don't get too close to post game interview people, then walk off floor arm in arm.
you're just not as smart as all those voices in your head tell you flooffer-
9 of 10
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it would be easier? well yeah, but what about all those "super spreaders' invading the city? why can't kyrie play just a few games for the nets then? he's probably coming in from jersey, just like a visiting player eyn'a?
i'd call new york on their vaccination discrimination. run around on the floor breathing and spitting all over everyone, then go to the bench to wear a mask, sometimes, sometimes not covering the nose. then pull it off to scream out instructions or a cheer. hug, shake hands, fist bump...but don't get too close to post game interview people, then walk off floor arm in arm.
you're just not as smart as all those voices in your head tell you flooffer-
You are exceedingly strange.
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Fair. Some started by saying "if it's true" and then it became accepted truth after his deleted posts were revealed. I'll definitely go back to "if it's true" if I talk about that issue again at all regarding Sam. I hope we don't have to talk about it again, though.
Or he just supported and defended a pro athlete he unfailing liked, as with many in WI when it comes to Rodgers.
I also personally know double digit people who don’t love the idea of the vaccine or mandates or whatnot…but are fully vaxxed themselves for any number of reasons. It’s not always black and white
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Or he just supported and defended a pro athlete he unfailing liked, as with many in WI when it comes to Rodgers.
I also personally know double digit people who don’t love the idea of the vaccine or mandates or whatnot…but are fully vaxxed themselves for any number of reasons. It’s not always black and white
When your day consists of watching CNN and posting hot takes and NYT articles on Scoop, your world view is pretty myopic.
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10 points, 9 boards, 4/4 from the line, and a +21 in 28 minutes for Joey in MSU's comeback road victory yesterday. Highest +/- on the team once again.
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10 points, 9 boards, 4/4 from the line, and a +21 in 28 minutes for Joey in MSU's comeback road victory yesterday. Highest +/- on the team once again.
His 2-5 shooting raised his FG% to 37.5%. Nothing but a role player.
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10 points, 9 boards, 4/4 from the line, and a +21 in 28 minutes for Joey in MSU's comeback road victory yesterday. Highest +/- on the team once again.
Looks like he had a good game, and MSU needed it from him.
Meanwhile, Sam got 6 minutes (0-1 with 1 assist) in Boston's 2OT win over Orlando.
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His 2-5 shooting raised his FG% to 37.5%. Nothing but a role player.
Izzo-Dukiet has wisely reduced him to a role player. He’s gotten more minutes here recently because of covid running through the Spartans. His minutes, usage and shots are down versus last year.
That’s a good spot for him. He can still be a scorer in spots and solid rebounder for Michigan State and limit his defensive liabilities
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Joey with 3 points 8 rebounds and 5 assists in Spartans win over the Huskers
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Joey with 3 points 8 rebounds and 5 assists in Spartans win over the Huskers
Another triple-single!
Actually sounds like another effective game, even if he didn't score. This last stretch looks like he's finding his little niche with the team.
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Another triple-single!
Actually sounds like another effective game, even if he didn't score. This last stretch looks like he's finding his little niche with the team.
Similar to the role that Draymond Green Juan Toscano Anderson plays for the Warriors. Tied for 8th in scoring this game, getting the easy rebounds. 3 Turnovers in 21 minutes.
And I agree with KenPom that plus minus for college basketball is pretty worthless.
https://kenpom.com/blog/a-treatise-on-plusminus/ (https://kenpom.com/blog/a-treatise-on-plusminus/)
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Another triple-single!
Actually sounds like another effective game, even if he didn't score. This last stretch looks like he's finding his little niche with the team.
Yes, another game that for all of Wojos faults proves Wojo used Joey correctly.
Joey may finally be realizing this 3 years later.
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The myth that Joey was gonna be a college star have been exposed -- not by Wojo or Izzo, but by Joey himself.
As I said, it looks like he's settled into his role: Hit the occasional 3, grab a few defensive boards, make a decent pass (and a couple not-so-decent passes), cheer from the bench (or pout, if that's still his way) when MSU needs defensive stops. There are worse ways to earn a scholly. Izzo seems to have a good fix on how and when to deploy the kid.
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The myth that Joey was gonna be a college star have been exposed -- not by Wojo or Izzo, but by Joey himself.
As I said, it looks like he's settled into his role: Hit the occasional 3, grab a few defensive boards, make a decent pass (and a couple not-so-decent passes), cheer from the bench (or pout, if that's still his way) when MSU needs defensive stops. There are worse ways to earn a scholly. Izzo seems to have a good fix on how and when to deploy the kid.
(https://i.gifer.com/origin/4b/4b0173565b112f9d0b5daf090f1cb50d_w200.webp)
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Joey Hauser game winner, lololol
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Joey was a traffic cone on D
But he caught the awesome dump of pass and got the winner
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Nice game winner for Joey.
Roy Williams enjoying retirement from UNC, He and his wife Wanda were in the crowd tonight in East Lansing.
https://www.wxyz.com/sports/joey-hauser-hits-buzzer-beater-and-michigan-state-tops-minnesota
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Joey Hauser game winner, lololol
He did a good job making himself available for the pass.
He's played his role a lot better the last month or so.
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Joey was a traffic cone on D
But he caught the awesome dump of pass and got the winner
He’s never gonna be Tony Allen. But he played well down the stretch. Had a really nice wrap around pocket pass for a big bucket late
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He’s never gonna be Tony Allen. But he played well down the stretch. Had a really nice wrap around pocket pass for a big bucket late
I wasn't being the least bit sarcastic with my previous comment. Joey has played his role well the last month or so: screen-setter, court-spreader, defensive rebounder and occasional scorer.
He gets 25% fewer shots per game now than he did when The Cancer wouldn't give him the ball at MU, but to his credit he realized that he wasn't gonna succeed with a letter-writing campaign to Izzo so he bought into what Izzo wanted him to be.
I'm serious about "to his credit." It's not easy for an athlete, especially a heralded one, to totally eat his ego as Joey's has had to do at MSU. He came out of high school as the next great thing -- "Wait till you see this guy! He's even better than Sam!" And when he went to Michigan State it was, "Markus and Wojo failed him ... just wait till Izzo unlocks his potential!"
The first month or more of this season, Izzo couldn't have him on the court down the stretch in close games. Joey was too bad on defense and made too many boneheaded plays on offense. But the last few weeks, Izzo has been playing Joey down the stretch because he can help spread the court, he's a big body, he makes free throws and he makes himself available for passes on the block. Izzo will still do the defensive sub for him, which is only smart, but then he'll get Joey back in on offense.
Joey's had quite the basketball career so far. He has gone from highly recruited prep superstar ... to offensive weapon at Marquette ... to useless, pouty, turnover machine at Marquette ... to redshirt in street clothes who was gonna show everybody what Wojo threw away ... to ego-shattered whipping boy who was getting mocked by Michigan State fans ... to useful role player.
I'll never "like" him because of his outsized role in helping ruin a potentially outstanding season, but I could see him being a 15-and-8 kind of player next season if he keeps making progress.
He's got some offensive talent, obviously, he always has. We'll see what it amounts to.
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A very nice moment for Joey. Good for him.
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2022/01/13/michigan-state-basketball-joey-hauser-minnesota/9198050002/
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I wasn't being the least bit sarcastic with my previous comment. Joey has played his role well the last month or so: screen-setter, court-spreader, defensive rebounder and occasional scorer.
He gets 25% fewer shots per game now than he did when The Cancer wouldn't give him the ball at MU, but to his credit he realized that he wasn't gonna succeed with a letter-writing campaign to Izzo so he bought into what Izzo wanted him to be.
I'm serious about "to his credit." It's not easy for an athlete, especially a heralded one, to totally eat his ego as Joey's has had to do at MSU. He came out of high school as the next great thing -- "Wait till you see this guy! He's even better than Sam!" And when he went to Michigan State it was, "Markus and Wojo failed him ... just wait till Izzo unlocks his potential!"
The first month or more of this season, Izzo couldn't have him on the court down the stretch in close games. Joey was too bad on defense and made too many boneheaded plays on offense. But the last few weeks, Izzo has been playing Joey down the stretch because he can help spread the court, he's a big body, he makes free throws and he makes himself available for passes on the block. Izzo will still do the defensive sub for him, which is only smart, but then he'll get Joey back in on offense.
Joey's had quite the basketball career so far. He has gone from highly recruited prep superstar ... to offensive weapon at Marquette ... to useless, pouty, turnover machine at Marquette ... to redshirt in street clothes who was gonna show everybody what Wojo threw away ... to ego-shattered whipping boy who was getting mocked by Michigan State fans ... to useful role player.
I'll never "like" him because of his outsized role in helping ruin a potentially outstanding season, but I could see him being a 15-and-8 kind of player next season if he keeps making progress.
He's got some offensive talent, obviously, he always has. We'll see what it amounts to.
Well put. Joey has settled into his role over the last several weeks and the Spartans are winning.
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If you have Twitter, search Joey Hauser today as Northwestern beats Michigan State
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C'mon, he had a game winner earlier this week.
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C'mon, he had a game winner earlier this week.
Yeah, they’ve forgotten that quickly, lol
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C'mon, he had a game winner earlier this week.
A game winner that I coulda made.
I guess congrats he doesnt have Kurs hands and caught the beautiful dime
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A game winner that I coulda made.
I guess congrats he doesnt have Kurs hands and caught the beautiful dime
His 3 pts weren't enough vs Northwestern.
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Joey made a pass to a teammate for the potential game time basket at the end of the game, the teammate got fouled and missed the free throws . Game over. Bad home loss for The Spartans.
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2022/01/15/michigan-state-basketball-game-score-northwestern-recap/6539836001/
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His 3 pts weren't enough vs Northwestern.
Be nice. Also had 1 whole rebound in 21 minutes.
To go with 2 turnovers and 4 fouls.
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Be nice. Also had 1 whole rebound in 21 minutes.
To go with 2 turnovers and 4 fouls.
Oh sure, ignore the 2 assists an$ 2 blocks. Stat sheet stuffer! ;D
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Oh sure, ignore the 2 assists an$ 2 blocks. Stat sheet stuffer! ;D
He is the master of the septuple-single.
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https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/celtics-sam-hauser-excellent-during-g-league-game/
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Always taught da dude wood play inn da Association, hey?
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Always taught da dude wood play inn da Association's official minor league system, hey?
FIFY
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Brother MU hit the nail right on the head. Hot shot out of high school, disruptor of the Wojo legend at Marquette and now role player at Michigan State University.
If I were Joey (and I'm clearly not), I'd be studying hard in those classes I'm taking at Michigan State. Why? To prepare for life without basketball. It's coming a lot sooner than Joey or his cheerleaders think.
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I love reading all the hate and vitriol towards Joey Hauser coming from Scoopers who fancy themselves good people, and, in reality, are anything but.
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Brother MU hit the nail right on the head. Hot shot out of high school, disruptor of the Wojo legend at Marquette and now role player at Michigan State University.
If I were Joey (and I'm clearly not), I'd be studying hard in those classes I'm taking at Michigan State. Why? To prepare for life without basketball. It's coming a lot sooner than Joey or his cheerleaders think.
Joey will get paid to play basketball for a decade or more, barring injury. It just might not be on this continent.
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FIFY
He has played in the Association. And I expect him to play in the Association again. He has a very in-demand skill that most do not have.
Joey will get paid to play basketball for a decade or more, barring injury. It just might not be on this continent.
I agree with that. I mean, Dwight Burke made a good buck for a decade. Joey has some skill.
I love reading all the hate and vitriol towards Joey Hauser coming from Scoopers who fancy themselves good people, and, in reality, are anything but.
That's funny coming from a guy who spews nothing but hate toward our alma mater. Joey Hauser's the one you "love"? Surprised, given that he spurned your beloved Madison team not once but twice.
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I love reading all the hate and vitriol towards Joey Hauser coming from Scoopers who fancy themselves good people, and, in reality, are anything but.
You’ll get over it
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I love reading all the hate and vitriol towards Joey Hauser coming from Scoopers who fancy themselves good people, and, in reality, are anything but.
(https://i.gifer.com/embedded/download/LYA.gif)
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I love reading all the hate and vitriol towards Joey Hauser coming from Scoopers who fancy themselves good people, and, in reality, are anything but.
The irony is overwhelming
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Joey Hauser's the one you "love"?
Blonde hair, blue eyes, etc. etc. etc.
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He has played in the Association. And I expect him to play in the Association again. He has a very in-demand skill that most do not have.
I agree with that. I mean, Dwight Burke made a good buck for a decade. Joey has some skill.
That's funny coming from a guy who spews nothing but hate toward our alma mater. Joey Hauser's the one you "love"? Surprised, given that he spurned your beloved Madison team not once but twice.
LOL, I've never personally attacked anyone here and it would never even cross my mind to do so.
And I don't like or dislike either of the Hausers, tbh. I do know exactly what happened with them and the team and there is a ton of blame to go around (Wojo, Howard, Hausers).
But the histrionics directed at him aren't surprising. Many MU fans have, for whatever reason, a kind of inferiority complex (but are also incredibly arrogant people individually) where they think MU isn't getting proper press coverage, unfair treatment from refs, etc. Heck, just look at the last game thread where a good 1/4 or more of the posts were whining about the refs.
Hey, keep pounding on the guy all you want. I'll continue to read it and laugh whenever a Scooper mentions "cura personalis." Gotta love it.
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LOL, I've never personally attacked anyone here and it would never even cross my mind to do so.
And I don't like or dislike either of the Hausers, tbh. I do know exactly what happened with them and the team and there is a ton of blame to go around (Wojo, Howard, Hausers).
But the histrionics directed at him aren't surprising. Many MU fans have, for whatever reason, a kind of inferiority complex (but are also incredibly arrogant people individually) where they think MU isn't getting proper press coverage, unfair treatment from refs, etc. Heck, just look at the last game thread where a good 1/4 or more of the posts were whining about the refs.
Hey, keep pounding on the guy all you want. I'll continue to read it and laugh whenever a Scooper mentions "cura personalis." Gotta love it.
Thanks for your service
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LOL, I've never personally attacked anyone here and it would never even cross my mind to do so.
And I don't like or dislike either of the Hausers, tbh. I do know exactly what happened with them and the team and there is a ton of blame to go around (Wojo, Howard, Hausers).
But the histrionics directed at him aren't surprising. Many MU fans have, for whatever reason, a kind of inferiority complex (but are also incredibly arrogant people individually) where they think MU isn't getting proper press coverage, unfair treatment from refs, etc. Heck, just look at the last game thread where a good 1/4 or more of the posts were whining about the refs.
Hey, keep pounding on the guy all you want. I'll continue to read it and laugh whenever a Scooper mentions "cura personalis." Gotta love it.
Would love to hear the real story from Scoop's real insider.
And yes, complaining about the refs on a message board is very much exclusive to Marquette basketball fans. Definitely a sign of an inferiority complex.
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LOL, I've never personally attacked anyone here and it would never even cross my mind to do so.
In your very first post you literally told another poster to go f*ck themself
I know I'll be banned, but go f*** yourself.
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In your very first post you literally told another poster to go f*ck themself
Shut it down, folks
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CAUGHT IN 4K
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In your very first post you literally told another poster to go f*ck themself
Shocked this guy created an account just to bash Theo John for having an opinion. What a human.
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Continuing to know his role.
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He also called Theo a "turd."
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=61601.msg1319843#msg1319843
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In your very first post you literally told another poster to go f*ck themself
Yeah but in a nice way
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LOL, I've never personally attacked anyone here and it would never even cross my mind to do so.
And I don't like or dislike either of the Hausers, tbh. I do know exactly what happened with them and the team and there is a ton of blame to go around (Wojo, Howard, Hausers).
But the histrionics directed at him aren't surprising. Many MU fans have, for whatever reason, a kind of inferiority complex (but are also incredibly arrogant people individually) where they think MU isn't getting proper press coverage, unfair treatment from refs, etc. Heck, just look at the last game thread where a good 1/4 or more of the posts were whining about the refs.
Hey, keep pounding on the guy all you want. I'll continue to read it and laugh whenever a Scooper mentions "cura personalis." Gotta love it.
You are a proven liar, so I don't believe a damn word you're saying about knowing "exactly what happened" with Vanilla Soft Serve and his family.
I "hate" Joey the way I "hate" Brad Davison and Myles Powell. It's "sports hate."
You hate Shaka and Theo because they're Black and they don't agree with your politics. But I'm guessing you're too dense to see the difference.
So go f*ck yourself, you Badger-lovin' twat.
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LOL, I've never personally attacked anyone here and it would never even cross my mind to do so.
And I don't like or dislike either of the Hausers, tbh. I do know exactly what happened with them and the team and there is a ton of blame to go around (Wojo, Howard, Hausers).
But the histrionics directed at him aren't surprising. Many MU fans have, for whatever reason, a kind of inferiority complex (but are also incredibly arrogant people individually) where they think MU isn't getting proper press coverage, unfair treatment from refs, etc. Heck, just look at the last game thread where a good 1/4 or more of the posts were whining about the refs.
Hey, keep pounding on the guy all you want. I'll continue to read it and laugh whenever a Scooper mentions "cura personalis." Gotta love it.
Ah, I see it's your first time on an internet message board.
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In your very first post you literally told another poster to go f*ck themself
He told Rocky to go F himself. LOL.
But it's OK, you see he's a good person.
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Wait, is f*cking yourself frowned upon in these parts?
This probably deserves a separate thread.
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I herd somewon, of prominence, hoo recently agreed wit it on TV, hey?
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Joey remains undefeated at Kohl Hole.
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Was anyone else disappointed Floppy McNutPuncher go for round two with Joey or was it just me?
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Was anyone else disappointed Floppy McNutPuncher go for round two with Joey or was it just me?
Nope. I was hoping Joey hopped on him all night. He didn’t but his team won
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Joey remains undefeated at Kohl Hole.
He played OK. 1-5 from floor including a couple bricks, but he did fine: 11 boards, 7 pts.
Role player who mostly has stopped hurting his own team, so Izzo's giving him 20+ minutes.
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I love Sparty today.
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He played OK. 1-5 from floor including a couple bricks, but he did fine: 11 boards, 7 pts.
Role player who mostly has stopped hurting his own team, so Izzo's giving him 20+ minutes.
First time I’ve watched a full MSU game this year. I was surprised at how much of a role player he is on that team.
It’s evident that Markus and Sam really opened up a lot for him in his year at MU. Joey really couldn’t get open and is pretty low usage as a result. His choice though. Seems he’s on a good team that’s winning.
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I love Sparty today.
Me too.
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First time I’ve watched a full MSU game this year. I was surprised at how much of a role player he is on that team.
It’s evident that Markus and Sam really opened up a lot for him in his year at MU. Joey really couldn’t get open and is pretty low usage as a result. His choice though. Seems he’s on a good team that’s winning.
That's the irony. Joey had to get away from The Cancer ... but it was Markus (and yes Sam) who made it possible for Joey to get shots.
For Izzo, Joey gets hardly any shots at all. He mostly is a screen-setter and defensive rebounder. Which is fine. Every good team needs those. He had a pretty good game yesterday, and it's always fun to watch the home team get pounded in Madison.
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That's the irony. Joey had to get away from The Cancer ... but it was Markus (and yes Sam) who made it possible for Joey to get shots.
Maybe Joey didn’t like what Markus stood for as the face of FCA?
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Maybe Joey didn’t like what Markus stood for as the face of FCA?
Maybe. Or maybe Vanilla Soft Serve just needed his blankie.
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Joey with a soft lay-up miss to close the half vs Illinois. He doesn't appear to have improved under Izzo imo.
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Joey with a soft lay-up miss to close the half vs Illinois. He doesn't appear to have improve under Izzo imo.
https://twitter.com/bballj7985brian/status/1486138876099973127?s=21
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Twitter tee'ing off on him again
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Twitter tee'ing off on him again
Michigan State fans eat their own when it comes to hoops. Tough place, man.
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https://twitter.com/bballj7985brian/status/1486138876099973127?s=21
Yikes!
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Michigan State fans eat their own when it comes to hoops. Tough place, man.
Thank goodness he got away from Mean Markus so he could be beloved at MSU.
But really, I don't know what their fans are complaining about. Scored 8, had 7 boards, 0 turnovers, made a 3 ... in other words, one of his better games as a Spartan.
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Thank goodness he got away from Mean Markus so he could be beloved at MSU.
But really, I don't know what their fans are complaining about. Scored 8, had 7 boards, 0 turnovers, made a 3 ... in other words, one of his better games as a Spartan.
Well he had 2 pts 1 rebound on 1/5 in the 1st half when these comments were made.
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Thank goodness he got away from Mean Markus so he could be beloved at MSU.
But really, I don't know what their fans are complaining about. Scored 8, had 7 boards, 0 turnovers, made a 3 ... in other words, one of his better games as a Spartan.
Yes. This wound up being a very good game for Hauser the Younger based on his current production levels. The kid hasn't improved much (if at all) from my observations. It's interesting that a certain monitor (from another website) excoriated me constantly for disagreeing with him that Joey had the skills to play PG. Yet, he has as much of a chance of playing PG as I do stopping Justin Lewis one on one.
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Well he had 2 pts 1 rebound on 1/5 in the 1st half when these comments were made.
So what you're saying is that in the face of criticism Vanilla Soft Serve rallied to have a productive(-ish) second half. He's da man!
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It's interesting that a certain monitor (from another website) excoriated me constantly for disagreeing with him that Joey had the skills to play PG. Yet, he has as much of a chance on playing PG as I do stopping Justin Lewis one on one.
Wow. I don't know how bad a judge of basketball talent you'd have to be to think Joey could play PG. I far less of a Joey basher that most here but that it just a ludicrous idea.
Can you see Joey attempting to bring the ball up or initiate the offense with Bryce Aiken or Posh Alexander guarding him?
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Wow. I don't know how bad a judge of basketball talent you'd have to be to think Joey could play PG. I far less of a Joey basher that most here but that it just a ludicrous idea.
Can you see Joey attempting to bring the ball up or initiate the offense with Bryce Aiken or Posh Alexander guarding him?
That's exactly what I was thinking after watching him play one game in a Marquette uniform. It's very poor analysis and we heard the same idiocy about Henry Ellenson. Because a tall guy can dribble doesn't tell you anything about whether he can play PG or even the 2 or 3.
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That's exactly what I was thinking after watching him play one game in a Marquette uniform. It's very poor analysis and we heard the same idiocy about Henry Ellenson. Because a tall guy can dribble doesn't tell you anything about whether he can play PG or even the 2 or 3.
Your mistake was not putting Joey in a blender
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Thank goodness he got away from Mean Markus so he could be beloved at MSU.
But really, I don't know what their fans are complaining about. Scored 8, had 7 boards, 0 turnovers, made a 3 ... in other words, one of his better games as a Spartan.
C'mon. You know that in the past few years, there are posters in the game thread (we all know who they are) that have said things just as bad (and worse) about even the best players on our team.
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Your mistake was not putting Joey in a blender
Perhaps. I believe my initial retort was that Muggsy Bogues had a better chance of playing the 5. Can you imagine Josephi Hauser trying to dribble full court vs Muggsy?
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C'mon. You know that in the past few years, there are posters in the game thread (we all know who they are) that have said things just as bad (and worse) about even the best players on our team.
For sure. Still, it’s pretty tame and isolated here versus social media posting of Sparty fans, for the most part. Most of the social media “attacks” about Marquette during games largely focused on the coaches through the years
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Yeah ... even the yahoo who called Markus a "cancer" only did so here, not out in the twitterverse.
Not to excuse those who would use Scoop to attack Marquette players, of course.
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https://www.kenoshanews.com/sports/college/jim-polzin-where-joey-hauser-and-johnny-davis-fit-in-a-classic-what-if-scenario/article_63ace28c-7327-58c5-ba6d-770000878cd7.html
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https://www.kenoshanews.com/sports/college/jim-polzin-where-joey-hauser-and-johnny-davis-fit-in-a-classic-what-if-scenario/article_63ace28c-7327-58c5-ba6d-770000878cd7.html
He's not wrong.
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That's exactly what I was thinking after watching him play one game in a Marquette uniform. It's very poor analysis and we heard the same idiocy about Henry Ellenson. Because a tall guy can dribble doesn't tell you anything about whether he can play PG or even the 2 or 3.
He still thinks Joey could play PG. And he definitely believes Sam could play point guard. Except in that Georgetown game when we needed a PG after Markus went out in the first couple minutes and Sacar was the emergency PG for 38 minutes LOL.
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He still thinks Joey could play PG. And he definitely believes Sam could play point guard. Except in that Georgetown game when we needed a PG after Markus went out in the first couple minutes and Sacar was the emergency PG for 38 minutes LOL.
Sam handled the basketball plenty in that game and did a good job, with only 2 turnovers to go with his 31 points. Sacar also did well, though our assist leader actually was Joey with 6 (he also had 5 turnovers in a sign of things to come).
https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats/2018-19/georgetown/boxscore/6130
The Markus-haters point to that game as "proof" of what Sam could have been had the selfish Markus not denied him the ball.
Of course, Sam averaged 20.4 points over the next 5 games, with Markus averaging 37 minutes and 4.4 assists. Sam didn't score as much in the 11 games after that ... because his shooting percentage plummeted from .541 to .423.
And at Virginia, with Markus long in his rear-view mirror, Sam averaged a whopping 0.6 more FGA per game than he did his junior year at Marquette. He won the exact same number of NCAA tournament games, too.
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Sam handled the basketball plenty in that game and did a good job, with only 2 turnovers to go with his 31 points. Sacar also did well, though our assist leader actually was Joey with 6 (he also had 5 turnovers in a sign of things to come).
https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats/2018-19/georgetown/boxscore/6130
The Markus-haters point to that game as "proof" of what Sam could have been had the selfish Markus not denied him the ball.
Of course, Sam averaged 20.4 points over the next 5 games, with Markus averaging 37 minutes and 4.4 assists. Sam didn't score as much in the 11 games after that ... because his shooting percentage plummeted from .541 to .423.
And at Virginia, with Markus long in his rear-view mirror, Sam averaged a whopping 0.6 more FGA per game than he did his junior year at Marquette. He won the exact same number of NCAA tournament games, too.
Sacar handled the PG duties that game.
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Sacar handled the PG duties that game.
I did not say otherwise, just that Sam handled the basketball a lot in that game. Which he did.
If it's your contention that Sacar had the ball in that game as much as Kolek does for this year's team, that's not how I remember it. But I could be misremembering.
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I did not say otherwise, just that Sam handled the basketball a lot in that game. Which he did.
If it's your contention that Sacar had the ball in that game as much as Kolek does for this year's team, that's not how I remember it. But I could be misremembering.
Dodds said Joey and Sam were so talented they could be great PG's. In the game which a PG was needed, neither of them actually bore that responsibility, thusly making Dodds wrong - yet again.
But yes Sam did play much more of an off guard role in that game than he did throughout his career. Just not PG as Dodds claimed he was so capable of stepping into.
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Dodds said Joey and Sam were so talented they could be great PG's.
If he said that, that's just dopey.
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If he said that, that's just dopey.
Ha ! Does it surprise you ?
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Did anyone call them a dime a dozen PGs? ;D
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Joey is on the board with 2pts vs Michigan.
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First 2 1/2 minutes of the second half, Joey's man gets 3 offensive boards for Michigan. Joey then bricks an open 3. And ... it's time to take a seat on the bench.
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First 2 1/2 minutes of the second half, Joey's man gets 3 offensive boards for Michigan. Joey then bricks an open 3. And ... it's time to take a seat on the bench.
Bills said: "Joey Hauser is going to have a big, big, year for the Spartans". Of course he also said Hinrich was a better NBA prospect than Wade. Whoops and whoooooooooooops.
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Back in the game, Joey hits a 3 and then runs the floor nicely to finish a break with a layup. Gets a nice cheer, as he should.
More importantly ... Michigan looks like complete shyte and is probably the most underachieving team in college basketball.
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Back in the game, Joey hits a 3 and then runs the floor nicely to finish a break with a layup. Gets a nice cheer, as he should.
More importantly ... Michigan looks like complete shyte and is probably the most underachieving team in college basketball.
Ya....what happened to that program and Juwan H?
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Ya....what happened to that program and Juwan H?
Bad roster construction this season. A lot of talented players but wing play has been bad.
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Extended COVID break.
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After getting back into the game, Joey hit a couple of 3s, helped break the press, battled Dickinson down low pretty well, and helped Sparty make sure Michigan wouldn't come back.
I don't watch a ton of MSU hoops but I do see some, and this was the best game I've seen him have in at least a year. I imagine the twitterverse will be more kind to him after this one.
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After getting back into the game, Joey hit a couple of 3s, helped break the press, battled Dickinson down low pretty well, and helped Sparty make sure Michigan wouldn't come back.
I don't watch a ton of MSU hoops but I do see some, and this was the best game I've seen him have in at least a year. I imagine the twitterverse will be more kind to him after this one.
The game was essentially over by the time he got back in the game. Neither he nor Garcia are anywhere near as good as Justin Lewis.
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MU82–did you say you are not infatuated with Joey Hauser?
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MU82–did you say you are not infatuated with Joey Hauser?
That cracked me up.
Yep, I've been way too nice to him!
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Joey got some love from Sparty Fans today
''It brought a tear to my eye to hear the crowd chanting Joey Hauser,'' Izzo said.
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Joey got some love from Sparty Fans today
''It brought a tear to my eye to hear the crowd chanting Joey Hauser,'' Izzo said.
sure did: "With Michigan State’s lead approaching 20 points and under four minutes remaining, Spartans fans chanted, “Joe-y! Joe-y!” after the junior dove to deflect a post-entry pass to Michigan’s Hunter Dickinson, forcing a jump ball."
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sure did: "With Michigan State’s lead approaching 20 points and under four minutes remaining, Spartans fans chanted, “Joe-y! Joe-y!” after the junior dove to deflect a post-entry pass to Michigan’s Hunter Dickinson, forcing a jump ball."
So he’s reached Don Smolinski level of fan appreciation?
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So he’s reached Don Smolinski level of fan appreciation?
There's a blast from the past!
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There's a blast from the past!
That wasn't that long ago!
People that saw him play in person are not old! >:(
Now, get off my lawn and turn down that blasted music!!!! ;D
The Smo! chants were a sure sign things were well in hand and the good guys would win.
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That wasn't that long ago!
People that saw him play in person are not old! >:(
Now, get off my lawn and turn down that blasted music!!!! ;D
The Smo! chants were a sure sign things were well in hand and the good guys would win.
If NET were in place back then, we couldn't have played him because we would have needed to increase our 20 point lead to 25.
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https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/celtics-sam-hauser-makes-seven-three-pointers/
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https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/celtics-sam-hauser-makes-seven-three-pointers/
I still think Sam will have an NBA career in which he makes real money. But even if not, he can play overseas and earn serious bread for a decade or more. He is elite at one thing that few are.
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I still think Sam will have an NBA career in which he makes real money. But even if not, he can play overseas and earn serious bread for a decade or more. He is elite at one thing that few are.
Sam is doing what he is supposed to do. Have big games shooting from 3 in The G League and getting an occasional call up.
I think Sam will build off his current progress in the coming years and have a nice NBA future .
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Good game for Joey tonight in MSU's 2-point win over Maryland: 10 pts, 5 reb, hit a couple 3s, helped MSU build a big lead that they frittered away. Subbed out with 3:27 and didn't return.
Malik Hall hit the winning hoop with 1 second left.
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Good game for Joey tonight in MSU's 2-point win over Maryland: 10 pts, 5 reb, hit a couple 3s, helped MSU build a big lead that they frittered away. Subbed out with 3:27 and didn't return.
Malik Hall hit the winning hoop with 1 second left.
Izzo has found a good role for Joey
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Izzo has found a good role for Joey
Mr. Hauser's poison pen is out and expect Izzo to be skewered.
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Joey 3 point 2 boards 1 assist in 18 minutes in Sparty loss on road at Rutgers
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Mr. Hauser's poison pen is out and expect Izzo to be skewered.
Does Joey transfer to UW-OSH brother dgies?
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Joey 3 point 2 boards 1 assist in 18 minutes in Sparty loss on road at Rutgers
I watched the last 2 minutes of the first half and happened to see Joey's 3. Missed the rest, and that's OK as it sounds like it was real missable. Wasn't just a road loss by Sparty but a 22-point beatdown at the hands of the mighty Scarlet Knights.
This would seem a step backward for Vanilla Soft Serve.
MSU barely beat a mediocre Maryland team and now got crushed by Rutgers. Could Sparty fall enough for Marquette to pass them in the polls?
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Izzy looked stressed. Wonder if he got a letter before the game.
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Izzy looked stressed. Wonder if he got a letter before the game.
At this point he probably wants one.
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Sam is teammates with Deonte Burton on the Maine Red Claws this year. In the Box score they list Deonte as playing PG.
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Sam is teammates with Deonte Burton on the Maine Red Claws this year. In the Box score they list Deonte as playing PG.
Probably the other Deonte Burton who played PG at Nevada.
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Probably the other Deonte Burton who played PG at Nevada.
No HC is right. However, the Red Claws are now called the Celtics.... but still have a lobster as their mascot
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No HC is right. However, the Red Claws are now called the Celtics.... but still have a lobster as their mascot
Thanks for the correction.
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Joey 8 point 8 boards with 3-10 from the field including 0-5 from 3 in the Spartans loss to The Badgers
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Joey 8 point 8 boards with 3-10 from the field including 0-5 from 3 in the Spartans loss to The Badgers
Did he and Floppy exchange low 5s during the game?
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Joey 8 point 8 boards with 3-10 from the field including 0-5 from 3 in the Spartans loss to The Badgers
Sparty fans should be thrilled, as he exceeded his season averages in both categories.
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Sparty fans should be thrilled, as he exceeded his season averages in both categories.
Izzo-Dukiet got outcoached all night. Joey would have been better coached at UW-Madison
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Sam's contract is getting converted to a standard contract. Stevens Point kid duz well, aina?
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Good for him. I was right about Markus getting some NBA run. I was wrong about Sam.
I still think his lack of lateral quickness will prevent him from sticking long-term. But he's had a pretty cool year and hopefully he continues to prove me wrong.
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Sam's contract is getting converted to a standard contract. Stevens Point kid duz well, aina?
He’s a quitter
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Good for him. I was right about Markus getting some NBA run. I was wrong about Sam.
I still think his lack of lateral quickness will prevent him from sticking long-term. But he's had a pretty cool year and hopefully he continues to prove me wrong.
Again ... NBA teams are desperate for 3-point shooting. Again ... Sam shoots 3s at an elite level.
There are plenty of other guys who aren't especially good on D. At least Sam makes an effort. I'm guessing he'll be able to hang around on the NBA fringes for quite some time. I mean, we all love Steve Novak ... but he couldn't defend a mannequin, and he lasted a decade in the league.
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Sam's contract is getting converted to a standard contract. Stevens Point kid duz well, aina?
Fantastic news for Sam
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/10/nba-boston-celtics-hauser-contract/
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I thought Sam’s career was over when he retweeted Aaron Rodgers’ COVID thoughts? :o
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I thought Sam’s career was over when he retweeted Aaron Rodgers’ COVID thoughts? :o
Which nobody said.
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“ Well, he had a chance to get a lot of meaningful minutes. For a rookie looking to stay in the NBA, that’s a pretty big deal. But he couldn’t get them because he apparently didn’t get vaccinated. Oops! Life is moving on without him because of his dumb choices.”
“ It was clearly a dumb choice. He had the opportunity to play meaningful minutes in a profession that he has dedicated his life to, but one in which he is a marginal talent. But he chose to believe misinformation instead.”
“This. He let down his teammates, his organization, his profession and, mostly, himself. “
Seems like a lot of assuming he was toast and how he wasted his opportunity by supposedly being unvaccinated (which I don’t actually think was the case based on how long he actually sat for) ::)
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I thought Sam’s career was over when he retweeted Aaron Rodgers’ COVID thoughts? :o
Which nobody said.
“ Well, he had a chance to get a lot of meaningful minutes. For a rookie looking to stay in the NBA, that’s a pretty big deal. But he couldn’t get them because he apparently didn’t get vaccinated. Oops! Life is moving on without him because of his dumb choices.”
“ It was clearly a dumb choice. He had the opportunity to play meaningful minutes in a profession that he has dedicated his life to, but one in which he is a marginal talent. But he chose to believe misinformation instead.”
“This. He let down his teammates, his organization, his profession and, mostly, himself. “
Seems like a lot of assuming he was toast and how he wasted his opportunity by supposedly being unvaccinated (which I don’t actually think was the case based on how long he actually sat for) ::)
So you were wrong and 82 was right?
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“ Well, he had a chance to get a lot of meaningful minutes. For a rookie looking to stay in the NBA, that’s a pretty big deal. But he couldn’t get them because he apparently didn’t get vaccinated. Oops! Life is moving on without him because of his dumb choices.”
“ It was clearly a dumb choice. He had the opportunity to play meaningful minutes in a profession that he has dedicated his life to, but one in which he is a marginal talent. But he chose to believe misinformation instead.”
“This. He let down his teammates, his organization, his profession and, mostly, himself. “
Seems like a lot of assuming he was toast and how he wasted his opportunity by supposedly being unvaccinated (which I don’t actually think was the case based on how long he actually sat for) ::)
The second quote was mine. I didn’t say his “career was over” at any point, and I didn’t say this when he retweeted Rodgers, but when he missed a game because he was unvaxxed.
So congrats. You said I said something I didn’t say and took it out of context anyway.
You sure showed me!
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“ Well, he had a chance to get a lot of meaningful minutes. For a rookie looking to stay in the NBA, that’s a pretty big deal. But he couldn’t get them because he apparently didn’t get vaccinated. Oops! Life is moving on without him because of his dumb choices.”
“ It was clearly a dumb choice. He had the opportunity to play meaningful minutes in a profession that he has dedicated his life to, but one in which he is a marginal talent. But he chose to believe misinformation instead.”
“This. He let down his teammates, his organization, his profession and, mostly, himself. “
Seems like a lot of assuming he was toast and how he wasted his opportunity by supposedly being unvaccinated (which I don’t actually think was the case based on how long he actually sat for) ::)
The Celtics were short on players. Sam came down with Covid. If he was unvaccinated, he absolutely wasted an opportunity.
You put words in posts that weren’t there. And now you’re bringing those posts up to…prove you were wrong, I guess.
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“ Well, he had a chance to get a lot of meaningful minutes. For a rookie looking to stay in the NBA, that’s a pretty big deal. But he couldn’t get them because he apparently didn’t get vaccinated. Oops! Life is moving on without him because of his dumb choices.”
“ It was clearly a dumb choice. He had the opportunity to play meaningful minutes in a profession that he has dedicated his life to, but one in which he is a marginal talent. But he chose to believe misinformation instead.”
“This. He let down his teammates, his organization, his profession and, mostly, himself. “
Seems like a lot of assuming he was toast and how he wasted his opportunity by supposedly being unvaccinated (which I don’t actually think was the case based on how long he actually sat for) ::)
You're not very good at trolling. And this shows you're also not very good at "proving" your troll attempt had any merit.
I suggest you leave the trolling to Rico. He's a pro!
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You're not very good at trolling. And this shows you're also not very good at "proving" your troll attempt had any merit.
I suggest you leave the trolling to Rico. He's a pro!
I’m a fact statesman
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Matching DNP-CD for Sam and Markus in the big Celtics-Nuggets game tonight.
I wonder if they said anything to each other either before or after the game.
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Matching DNP-CD for Sam and Markus in the big Celtics-Nuggets game tonight.
I wonder if they said anything to each other either before or after the game.
They exchanged letters.
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Joey 5 and 5 in 16 minutes today for The Spartans . MSU beat I4
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Sam had by far his best NBA game as he got to play 13 minutes in the Celtics' beatdown of the Sixers: 9 points on 3-of-5 from 3, and 3 assists, all career-highs.
Joey didn't have as much fun: 6 points and 3 rebounds in 19 mostly meh minutes as Sparty was upset by Penn State.
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Sam had by far his best NBA game as he got to play 13 minutes in the Celtics' beatdown of the Sixers: 9 points on 3-of-5 from 3, and 3 assists, all career-highs.
Joey didn't have as much fun: 6 points and 3 rebounds in 19 mostly meh minutes as Sparty was upset by Penn State.
A video of all of Sams 3s and assists
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EWHlTM7_ZiM
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A video of all of Sams 3s and assists
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EWHlTM7_ZiM
No offense to Sam but a highlight film of three made shots and three assists up 40 deserve a highlight video, nowadays?
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No offense to Sam but a highlight film of three made shots and three assists up 40 deserve a highlight video, nowadays?
Nobody likes reading letters
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No offense to Sam but a highlight film of three made shots and three assists up 40 deserve a highlight video, nowadays?
Reminds me of the video of all of Wilt's buckets in the 100-point game ... followed by the video of Wilt's 20,000 conquests.
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Reminds me of the video of all of Wilt's buckets in the 100-point game ... followed by the video of Wilt's 20,000 conquests.
Caligula was my favorite video too.
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Joey about as good as he can be: 11 points on 3-5 from 3, 3 reb, 2 as, 4 fouls in 22 minutes in Sparty's home loss to Illinois.
Still, he played sparingly down the stretch when Sparty rallied to make it a game, with his only contributions during the last 7 1/2 minutes being 2 fouls and a missed 3.
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Joey about as good as he can be: 11 points on 3-5 from 3, 3 reb, 2 as, 4 fouls in 22 minutes in Sparty's home loss to Illinois.
Still, he played sparingly down the stretch when Sparty rallied to make it a game, with his only contributions during the last 7 1/2 minutes being 2 fouls and a missed 3.
Grandison lit him up according to Sparty Twitter but before Tyson Walker got hot late, Joey made a couple of timely 3’s to get Sparty back in the game
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Grandison lit him up according to Sparty Twitter but before Tyson Walker got hot late, Joey made a couple of timely 3’s to get Sparty back in the game
I only tuned in for the last 5 minutes or so. By then, Vanilla Soft Serve was anchored to the bench, so I had to by the box score and play-by-play. I saw that Joey hit a couple of 3s to help cut a 16-point deficit to 10, but when he left the game with 5 1/2 to go Sparty was down by 13 again.
Joey giveth and Joey taketh away, as always, but still 11 points qualifies as big-time for him -- it's his second-best output in a conference game and fourth-best overall.
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https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2022/02/12/celtics-sam-hauser-things-to-know-3-point-shooting-brother-joey/
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https://www.wsaw.com/2022/02/22/spash-boys-basketball-win-sam-hausers-return/
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https://twitter.com/bobbystompy/status/1496299865105653767?s=21
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https://twitter.com/bobbystompy/status/1496299865105653767?s=21
The kid has a head for nutsacks.
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Joey with a STRONG 2pt 2 rebound game. I can see why Izzo keeps in the starting lineup. The NBA teams must be drooling over him.
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Another quintuple single for Vanilla Soft Serve!
His coach and teammates let him take all of 2 shots. Markus' fault, no doubt.
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Another quintuple single for Vanilla Soft Serve!
His coach and teammates let him take all of 2 shots. Markus' fault, no doubt.
Gimme a Ticket for an Aeroplane.
Did "The Letter" derail his career or was he WAY overhyped? Sam is a significantly better player obviously.
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At this point, the Joey updates seem beyond kicking a man when he's down.
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Did "The Letter" derail his career or was he WAY overhyped.
Several of us enjoy poking fun, but that's an interesting, legit question.
There is no doubt he was overhyped - he only lived up to the billing in a handful of games. There also is no doubt he has regressed even though he's being coached by a Hall of Famer and is surrounded by top talent.
He's pretty much a poster boy for "be careful what you ask for."
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Several of us enjoy poking fun, but that's an interesting, legit question.
There is no doubt he was overhyped - he only lived up to the billing in a handful of games. There also is no doubt he has regressed even though he's being coached by a Hall of Famer and is surrounded by top talent.
He's pretty much a poster boy for "be careful what you ask for."
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But Jay Bilas said : "Joey is going to have a big, big, year". What was he referring to or do you know?
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But Jay Bilas said : "Joey is going to have a big, big, year". What was he referring to or do you know?
I like Bilas and I think he's pretty knowledgeable in general, but he says a lot of dopey things.
For example, he famously (infamously?) pimped Froling as a difference-maker for Marquette, and he kept insisting that Josh Gasser was gonna have a long NBA career, among other silliness.
If I had to guess, Bilas had a conversation with Izzo and just parroted what Izzo told him about Joey.
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I like Bilas and I think he's pretty knowledgeable in general, but he says a lot of dopey things.
For example, he famously (infamously?) pimped Froling as a difference-maker for Marquette, and he kept insisting that Josh Gasser was gonna have a long NBA career, among other silliness.
If I had to guess, Bilas had a conversation with Izzo and just parroted what Izzo told him about Joey.
It makes you wonder what Izzo was thinking? As you said I haven't seen much progression if any since he left MU.
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It makes you wonder what Izzo was thinking? As you said I haven't seen much progression if any since he left MU.
Izzo was probably saying that to try and build Joey’s confidence. It’s a common coaching tactic. It just hasn’t worked
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I like Bilas and I think he's pretty knowledgeable in general, but he says a lot of dopey things.
For example, he famously (infamously?) pimped Froling as a difference-maker for Marquette, and he kept insisting that Josh Gasser was gonna have a long NBA career, among other silliness.
If I had to guess, Bilas had a conversation with Izzo and just parroted what Izzo told him about Joey.
I used to like Bilas but the 'dopey' comments are too frequent for me anymore. He's not much different than Vital in my book; just a ESPN shill who want to be friends with the coaches and ESPN conferences. Any guise of independent reporting or commentary was over years ago.
As for Joey, I hope he works hard to get his degree and finds a good spot in the world for himself. The odds to become a good college player, much less a NBA player, are very long. His story is the most common one in basketball.
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I used to like Bilas but the 'dopey' comments are too frequent for me anymore. He's not much different than Vital in my book; just a ESPN shill who want to be friends with the coaches and ESPN conferences. Any guise of independent reporting or commentary was over years ago.
At least Bilas doesn't scream his dopey comments the way Dickie V used to. Nor does Bilas go on and on about how great all of his coaching buddies are. My main problem with Bilas now is that he spends a large percentage of each broadcast ripping the refs. When replay shows the refs might have been wrong, Bilas gets on a rant; when replay shows he was wrong, he says nothing. It's lazy and makes him look less knowledgeable.
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I started feeling sorry for Joey a year ago.
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I started feeling sorry for Joey a year ago.
Said it before, say it again: the Hauser boys' decision to transfer worked out for absolutely no one.
Joey's become a shell of what he could have been.
Sam wasted a year of earning potential sitting on Virginia's bench.
Markus' senior year was wasted.
Wojo got fired.
And they all remain 0-fer in the NCAA tournament.
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Yup.
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Said it before, say it again: the Hauser boys' decision to transfer worked out for absolutely no one.
Joey's become a shell of what he could have been.
Sam wasted a year of earning potential sitting on Virginia's bench.
Markus' senior year was wasted.
Wojo got fired.
And they all remain 0-fer in the NCAA tournament.
To be fair Markus's senior year would've been wasted either way. Let's say Sam (and Joey?) remain, Covid still hits and shuts down the year and we likely are sitting around like Dayton fans saying "we were for sure a final four team!"
But yeah I agree it's benefited nobody except maybe Bennett during the regular season.
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To be fair Markus's senior year would've been wasted either way. Let's say Sam (and Joey?) remain, Covid still hits and shuts down the year and we likely are sitting around like Dayton fans saying "we were for sure a final four team!"
But yeah I agree it's benefited nobody except maybe Bennett during the regular season.
What if the butterfly effect of the Hausers leaving caused COVID?
Regardless, it would have been a much better senior year had they stayed.
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Said it before, say it again: the Hauser boys' decision to transfer worked out for absolutely no one.
Joey's become a shell of what he could have been.
Sam wasted a year of earning potential sitting on Virginia's bench.
Markus' senior year was wasted.
Wojo got fired.
And they all remain 0-fer in the NCAA tournament.
maybe Joey is what he is and everyone on this board who were obsessed with a high school kid and now spend their time mocking him and name calling were the ones who were wrong. I mean, the scouts have never been wrong on recruits before, have they?
Markus got his. It wasn't wasted for him.
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maybe Joey is what he is and everyone on this board who were obsessed with a high school kid and now spend their time mocking him and name calling were the ones who were wrong. I mean, the scouts have never been wrong on recruits before, have they?
Markus got his. It wasn't wasted for him.
I love nothing more than someone posting on a message board largely about high school and college aged kids, ripping on people for obsessing over high school and college age kids.
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What if the butterfly effect of the Hausers leaving caused COVID?
Regardless, it would have been a much better senior year had they stayed.
The stephen's point virus
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maybe Joey is what he is
(https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/mcdonalds/t-mcdonalds-Vanilla-Reduced-Fat-Ice-Cream-Cone:product-header-desktop?wid=830&hei=456&dpr=off)
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What if the butterfly effect of the Hausers leaving caused COVID?
Regardless, it would have been a much better senior year had they stayed.
You beat me to it. Well done, sir.
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At least Bilas doesn't scream his dopey comments the way Dickie V used to. Nor does Bilas go on and on about how great all of his coaching buddies are. My main problem with Bilas now is that he spends a large percentage of each broadcast ripping the refs. When replay shows the refs might have been wrong, Bilas gets on a rant; when replay shows he was wrong, he says nothing. It's lazy and makes him look less knowledgeable.
That's fair. I agree.
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Said it before, say it again: the Hauser boys' decision to transfer worked out for absolutely no one.
Joey's become a shell of what he could have been.
Sam wasted a year of earning potential sitting on Virginia's bench.
Markus' senior year was wasted.
Wojo got fired.
And they all remain 0-fer in the NCAA tournament.
Worked out for Marquette. Got rid of Wojo and got Shaka. Also worked out for Wojo to the tune of ~$8M dollar buy out.
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MSU beat Purdue
Joey had a respectable game off the bench
With 8 points in 3 of 5 shooting and no turnovers
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https://www.stevenspointjournal.com/story/sports/nba/2022/03/02/spash-alum-sam-hauser-earns-full-time-boston-celtics-contract-nba/9320148002/
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Joey was honored by Michigan State on senior day, and he got the start against Maryland.
He could play another year if he wants to, but maybe he told them he's had enough "fun" in Spartyland? Actually, an article on mlive.com says he and MSU's other seniors who were honored haven't made decisions about their futures yet.
From the article:
Hauser joined Michigan State as a transfer a year after the rest of Michigan State’s senior class. After being forced to sit out a year due to transfer rules then playing what he admitted was a difficult year under COVID-19 restrictions, Hauser said he’s rediscovered a love of basketball as a senior.
“Last year was a long year after COVID,” Hauser said. “That really took a lot of joy out of basketball, and this year has helped me find it a lot. I’m just really soaking in this year, getting things back to normal.”
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Solid game by Joey in Sparty win over Floppy McNutPuncher
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Joey’s last Big 14 game line:
0 points
0-4, 0-3 from 3
4 boards
1 assist
5 personal fouls
Twitter outrage: 🔥
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I’d be outraged if my coach gave 21 minutes to the player who had that line, too.
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I’d be outraged if my coach gave 21 minutes to the player who had that line, too.
Cannon fodder just like a Russian conscript.
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But I'm sure he played some real stout defense.
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Might see a Joey vs Theo in 2nd rnd ! ! ! 8-)
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Joey with 2 early threes in The Spartans first round game against Floppy McNutPuncher University
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Joey having a night. Good for him.
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9-12, 4-6 on 3s, 5-6 FT, 8 RB, 2 Asst, 1 Stl, 0 TO, 27 points in a 1 point NCAA tournament win. Spectacular.
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Really nice game for Joey.
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Literally out of nowhere. Kid averaging 7 points gets 27. Good for Joey and for Sparty.
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Literally out of nowhere. Kid averaging 7 points gets 27. Good for Joey and for Sparty.
Was very efficient 27 8 and 2 shot 9 -12 from field , 4-6 from three and 5-6 from line
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Literally out of nowhere. Kid averaging 7 points gets 27. Good for Joey and for Sparty.
*Jean Felix has entered the chat. *
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Joey 5-6-3 in Sparty loss to Duke.
Shot 1-5 from the field
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Joey 5-6-3 in Sparty loss to Duke.
Shot 1-5 from the field
One final quintuple single for Vanilla Soft Serve ... though it probably isn't final because THERE'S a guy who's "not ready" for the NBA.
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Markus outscores sam 6 to 0, but Celtics get the win.
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Did dey slap 5 wit each udder, hey?
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Enjoy this after a couple of cocktails
https://fooshya.com/2022/03/20/michigan-states-joey-hauser-appears-to-be-like-to-proceed-run-after-households-first-march-insanity-win/ (https://fooshya.com/2022/03/20/michigan-states-joey-hauser-appears-to-be-like-to-proceed-run-after-households-first-march-insanity-win/)
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Enjoy this after a couple of cocktails
https://fooshya.com/2022/03/20/michigan-states-joey-hauser-appears-to-be-like-to-proceed-run-after-households-first-march-insanity-win/ (https://fooshya.com/2022/03/20/michigan-states-joey-hauser-appears-to-be-like-to-proceed-run-after-households-first-march-insanity-win/)
ok, he got his win, beautiful...next up, the NBA?? ok, give me a moment or 2 to get up off the floor
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Enjoy this after a couple of cocktails
I love this place. 8am post, but please drink first. Whelp, I'm beholden to the ruled of scoop - here goes.
edit: (gulp), the wording in this couldn't make sense. I undertaked to read it, but unable. To here is the earliest: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33548194/michigan-state-joey-hauser-looks-continue-run-family-first-march-madness-win
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I'm moving this here because we didn't need a separate thread in The Al about Sam's big 11-point outing.
Do you think Wojo is a better coach than Tom Izzo or Tony Bennett? If not, then stop trying to suggest the performance of the Hauser brothers post-Marquette has anything to do with the caliber of coach Wojo was. The Hausers proved plenty smart when they recognized Wojo was in over his head.
Of course I don't think Wojo is better than Izzo or Bennett, and I'm actually suggesting the exact opposite of what you think I'm suggesting.
Here's the fact: Escaping The Worst Coach Ever and Cancerous Markus didn't get your heroes more shots, make them better players or lead to piles of NCAAT wins. That's especially the case with Vanilla Soft Serve, who has regressed significantly under a Hall of Fame coach -- suggesting that the caliber of coach just might not be VSS's main problem.
And, of course, they didn't leave because "Wojo was in over his head" -- even though he was. They left because they wanted more shots -- and they didn't get more shots.
Cerebral is a perfect word to describe Sam as a player. Recall JJJ saying he loved playing with Sam for the same reasons - right place, right time, makes the right play, virtually every time; quite the alternative to the ball-hog that Markus Howard was while playing with Sam and Joey.
I've always considered Sam to be an intelligent player who was pretty good at making up for his relative lack of athletic ability.
We'll probably never find out what really happened, but IMHO Sam got stuck in a no-win situation at the end of his time at Marquette because he had to support his immature little brother's desire to be a team's focal point.
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I'm moving this here because we didn't need a separate thread in The Al about Sam's big 11-point outing.
Of course I don't think Wojo is better than Izzo or Bennett, and I'm actually suggesting the exact opposite of what you think I'm suggesting.
Here's the fact: Escaping The Worst Coach Ever and Cancerous Markus didn't get your heroes more shots, make them better players or lead to piles of NCAAT wins. That's especially the case with Vanilla Soft Serve, who has regressed significantly under a Hall of Fame coach -- suggesting that the caliber of coach just might not be VSS's main problem.
And, of course, they didn't leave because "Wojo was in over his head" -- even though he was. They left because they wanted more shots -- and they didn't get more shots.
I've always considered Sam to be an intelligent player who was pretty good at making up for his relative lack of athletic ability.
We'll probably never find out what really happened, but IMHO Sam got stuck in a no-win situation at the end of his time at Marquette because he had to support his immature little brother's desire to be a team's focal point.
The worst thing Wojo ever did was to recruit those two cancers, Joey and Sam
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The worst thing Wojo ever did was to recruit those two cancers, Joey and Sam
Wild Take.
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Wild Take.
They kill programs
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https://nesn.com/2022/04/ime-udoka-gushed-about-sam-hauser-before-celtics-rookie-career-night/
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They kill programs
You got that right, Unk.
Markus and Wojo only killed 1 program each (and it was the same program). Vanilla Soft Serve and Sam are 3-for-3!
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Joey torn between turning Pro and Going back to MSU....
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2022/04/joey-hauser-still-deciding-between-turning-pro-returning-to-michigan-state.html
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Joey torn between turning Pro and Going back to MSU....
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2022/04/joey-hauser-still-deciding-between-turning-pro-returning-to-michigan-state.html
He should definitely come back. BMOC
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Joey torn between turning Pro and Going back to MSU....
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2022/04/joey-hauser-still-deciding-between-turning-pro-returning-to-michigan-state.html
If he turns pro and is not drafted, will there be a letter to the commissioner?
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We make fun of Vanilla Soft Serve (as we should), but he probably can make coin playing hoops for a long time; he does have a pretty good offensive skill set.
But because he makes Sam look like a good athlete in comparison, VSS has very little chance to get even a cup of coffee in the NBA.
If he doesn't have his degree yet, and he gives a shyte about that at all, he probably should keep letting MSU foot the bill for his education. HS gym teachers need a degree.
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Joey could transfer and bring the DIII national title back to Stevens Point, Wisconsin.
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Article by Boston Celtics Beat writer on Sam Hauser Upside. Seems like Sam will be on the Celtic roster for a while.
https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2022/04/boston-celtics-mailbag-playoff-scenarios-sam-hauser-upside-closing-lineup-options-without-rob-williams.html
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Seems like Sam will be on the Celtic roster for a while.
I'm not surprised. keefe owes me a 4-pack of craft beer, but that's OK if I never collect.
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Nah, the Pointers really suck - 4-17, 0-12 in conference last year, not sure soft-serve could carry them, but he could get some NIL money from Belt's....
Joey could transfer and bring the DIII national title back to Stevens Point, Wisconsin.
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I'm not surprised. keefe owes me a 4-pack of craft beer, but that's OK if I never collect.
The guy has been MIA since the end of June. Weird.
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Didn’t keefe dox a fellow Scooper? I think that’s why.
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Stevens Point Media interview with Joey
https://www.wsaw.com/2022/04/11/stevens-point-native-joey-hauser-discusses-his-basketball-future/
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Stevens Point Media interview with Joey
https://www.wsaw.com/2022/04/11/stevens-point-native-joey-hauser-discusses-his-basketball-future/
i wonder if steph allows him to return to school ;) she may have bigger plans for her baby ::)
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Stevens Point Media interview with Joey
https://www.wsaw.com/2022/04/11/stevens-point-native-joey-hauser-discusses-his-basketball-future/
Both Izzo and Sam recommending baby bro go back to Sparty, so unless he doesn't like college that's probably what he'll do.
I hope it's OK to post stuff about the Hausers in the Hauser Brothers thread rather than start 3 or 4 new threads.
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MSU waiting on Joey to decide before they make certain portal commitments
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2022/04/does-michigan-state-need-to-add-from-the-transfer-portal-assessing-the-spartans-needs.html
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According to this article, The Celtics have a team option on Sam for next season at $1.5 Million. If exercised by The Celtics, that would be a very good outcome for Same. Sams two way contract was converted on February 11 to a standard contract for the rest of the NBA Season this year, which was essentially 337,000 guaranteed add in the Two Way pay he made and he was probably north 500 K for this year.
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Joey still fence sitting
https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/13/izzo-joey-hauser-still-undecided-on-returning-to-msu-for-another-year/
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Joey still fence sitting
https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/13/izzo-joey-hauser-still-undecided-on-returning-to-msu-for-another-year/
If only he played as well on a basketball court as he sits on a fence!
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Joey still fence sitting
https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/13/izzo-joey-hauser-still-undecided-on-returning-to-msu-for-another-year/
Izzy isn't really encouraging him to return either. Time to move down a level for your Super Senior year.
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Don't get the whole Joey hate. So much for We are Marquette, aina?
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Don't get the whole Joey hate. So much for We are Marquette, aina?
Maybe cause we are but he isn’t?
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Izzy isn't really encouraging him to return either. Time to move down a level for your Super Senior year.
Yea, just needs to decide what he wants his last year to be. On a very good MSU team as a role player, or the focal point at a Horizon/Summit/MAC school. Regardless he won't be in the NBA, and this year largely won't affect his professional path. Provided he wants to, he'll make money for a LONG time playing basketball.
Watch any mid to high level European game outside of the Euroleague, every team has a big, usually slower, dude who can shoot well and pass. He fits the bill. He won't be playing for Real Madrid or Fenerbace, but he won't be in Bulgaria or Luxembourg either.
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Yea, just needs to decide what he wants his last year to be. On a very good MSU team as a role player, or the focal point at a Horizon/Summit/MAC school. Regardless he won't be in the NBA, and this year largely won't affect his professional path. Provided he wants to, he'll make money for a LONG time playing basketball.
Watch any mid to high level European game outside of the Euroleague, every team has a big, usually slower, dude who can shoot well and pass. He fits the bill. He won't be playing for Real Madrid or Fenerbace, but he won't be in Bulgaria or Luxembourg either.
Totally agree with this. Joey had offensive skills.
Maybe do what Jamal Cain did - go be a star at a school that is expected to contend for its conference title. Have some fun in your final college season.
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Totally agree with this. Joey had offensive skills.
Maybe do what Jamal Cain did - go be a star at a school that is expected to contend for its conference title. Have some fun in your final college season.
He’d be good in mid-major like the A-10
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He’d be good in mid-major like the A-10
Joey to Dayton. **shutter** I hear they have a great Physical Education program though:
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Joey to Dayton. **shutter** I hear they have a great Physical Education program though:
And a huge NIL deal endorsing the Chevy Cavalier.
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Sam Hauser is undefeated in the NBA Playoffs
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Joey expresses theories as how he makes the NBA
https://www.stevenspointjournal.com/story/sports/nba/2022/04/15/spash-alum-joey-hauser-mulls-declaring-nba-draft-after-brother-sam-hauser-success-on-boston-celtics/7316684001/
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Joey expresses theories as how he makes the NBA
https://www.stevenspointjournal.com/story/sports/nba/2022/04/15/spash-alum-joey-hauser-mulls-declaring-nba-draft-after-brother-sam-hauser-success-on-boston-celtics/7316684001/
It better involve buying tickets
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Sam gets his first NBA playoff win today .
He Was DNP- coaches decision as the Celts only went 8 deep . However he was on the active roster for the game which is a positive .
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It better involve buying tickets
I’m sure Sam could leave him some. Or even Markus.
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Joey Hauser announces via the MSU Twitter today that he will be back for another season. Not sure if this will count as his COVID year after redshirting at Marquette and sitting out a year at MSU or if he can get one more after this.
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There have been flashes of Joey actually being able to play basketball. It will be interesting to see what one more year under Izzo will do for him.
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YES!!! MOAR HOWSER!!!!
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I have to re-follow that guy on Twitter who tweeted every time Joey falls down
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https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state-university/2022/04/20/michigan-state-spartans-power-forward-joey-hauser-returning-one-more-season/7380995001/
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Celtics go 2-0 versus Nets.
Sam was on the 15 man Active Roster again , but did not play. I think being on the Active Roster helps his cause for next season .
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Sam with some playing time in Celtics first two games against the Bucks. 2 minutes each game with 2 points in the win in game.
Sam has been On the active roster throughout the whole playoffs , which bodes well for him getting resigned .
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Joey interview with Andy Katz. Talks about his return to Spartans and expectations .
https://youtu.be/V9tUMl3V_cI
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Joey interview with Andy Katz. Talks about his return to Spartans and expectations .
https://youtu.be/V9tUMl3V_cI
I’m not going to watch but did he mention anything about not falling down?
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I’m not going to watch but did he mention anything about not falling down?
Or about finally trying to achieve under a Hall of Fame coach what he did when burdened by the evil Wojo-Markus duo?
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Didn’t keefe dox a fellow Scooper? I think that’s why.
I've heard that Mr Death On Call schlepped over to the Ukraine to fight the good fight. He'll be back posting once he knocks off the Ruskies.
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I've heard that Mr Death On Call schlepped over to the Ukraine to fight the good fight. He'll be back posting once he knocks off the Ruskies.
Are we sure keefe would be fighting against Russia?
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Are we sure keefe would be fighting against Russia?
Good point. What would Dennis Reynolds do?
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I noticed Sam hasn’t been in the eligible lineup for the Celtics the last few games . This injury report explains why. Says he had a right shoulder instability episode . I hope this doesn’t require surgery.
https://www.nba.com/heat/news/gameday-rundown-heat-vs-celtics-game-5
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I noticed Sam hasn’t been in the eligible lineup for the Celtics the last few games . This injury report explains why. Says he had a right shoulder instability episode . I hope this doesn’t require surgery.
https://www.nba.com/heat/news/gameday-rundown-heat-vs-celtics-game-5
He probably hurt it picking up Joey all the time
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Kudos to the Celtics for somehow finding a way to win games even without Sam Hauser.
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Kudos to the Celtics for somehow finding a way to win games even without Sam Hauser.
He plays the game the right way, so I am sure he passed that on to Tatum, Brown, Smart and Horford.
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I noticed Sam hasn’t been in the eligible lineup for the Celtics the last few games . This injury report explains why. Says he had a right shoulder instability episode . I hope this doesn’t require surgery.
https://www.nba.com/heat/news/gameday-rundown-heat-vs-celtics-game-5
Or maybe he wrote a letter?
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Does Sam's head explode when he reads NBA usage stats?
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Does Sam's head explode when he reads NBA usage stats?
He's gonna transfer if Tatum comes back next year.
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His arm was in a sling during the Milwaukee series.
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A "right shoulder instability episode"?? As a member of the Celtics, the mostly likely cause of a shoulder instability episode would be from throwing both hands forcefully in the air at a referee while frantically protesting a foul call.
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His arm was in a sling during the Milwaukee series.
I believe he got injured in practice during the series.
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I believe he got injured in practice during the series.
They must have refs at their practices.
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They must have refs at their practices.
If your NBA coach doesn't have you practice selling contact, then he shouldn't be coaching in today's NBA
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Mrs. Hauser call up Stevens yet?
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Maybe he injured his shoulder writing a letter ! ! ! 8-)
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Sam off injured list
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/celtics-sam-hauser-no-longer-on-injury-report/
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Sam got in for one minute in Game one.
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Sam got a 3. First in the NBA finals for him
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Beautiful assist by Sam
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Sam vs Juan for none of the marbles!
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Sam continuing to get in during garbage time in The finals.
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Sam got an assist in game 5 of the finals.
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Sam got an assist in game 5 of the finals.
Maybe we shoulda been calling him "Magic" instead of John Dawson.
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Sam got an assist in game 5 of the finals.
He had 1/18th of his team's assists, 0/18th of his team's turnovers in 1/240th of his team's total minutes played. +6 in one minute played, in a game his team was -10 overall. Crazy.
Are we thinking the 5 hour flight back to Boston gave him enough time to come up with the first draft of his letter writing to Ime about how to play the game the right way, how to get everyone equal shots instead of Brown and Tatum dominating the ball, etc.? Does the plane hold enough Crayons for that letter?
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Maybe we shoulda been calling him "Magic" instead of John Dawson.
Extrapolate that out- on a per 40 minute basis- 40 assists a game. He sure knows how to play the right way.
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Sam played the game the right way. Passed up several shots to pass the ball to teammates.
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Sam played the game the right way. Passed up several shots to pass the ball to teammates.
If only Wojo had been smart enough to have Sam run the point 95% of the time. After all, he was good against Georgetown in that one game Markus missed and Ewing inexplicably never put any ball pressure on Sam or Sacar. (Ewing should have been fired immediately after that game, but I digress ... )
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The Hausers suck
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From The Athletic:
Gonzaga and Michigan State are in talks to play each other on an aircraft carrier this November, the first game of its kind since 2012. Let’s just hope it doesn’t rain.
Vanilla Soft Serve, sliding around a court situated on the deck of an aircraft carrier as he tries to defend guys 3x as quick as he is in even ideal conditions. Fun!
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From The Athletic:
Gonzaga and Michigan State are in talks to play each other on an aircraft carrier this November, the first game of its kind since 2012. Let’s just hope it doesn’t rain.
He might fall off an aircraft carrier
Vanilla Soft Serve, sliding around a court situated on the deck of an aircraft carrier as he tries to defend guys 3x as quick as he is in even ideal conditions. Fun!
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Sam to play in Celtics Summer League.
https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1722987/
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Sam Hauser Basketball Camp. Joey is one of the counselors along with some of Sam's other local buddies.
https://www.samhauserbasketball.com/
https://twitter.com/Big_Smooth10/status/1541921675196989443/photo/1
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Sam Hauser Basketball Camp. Joey is one of the counselors along with some of Sam's other local buddies.
https://www.samhauserbasketball.com/
https://twitter.com/Big_Smooth10/status/1541921675196989443/photo/1
I’m not a Sam hater by any means, but “try on a game worn Finals jersey” is f-ing hilarious
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Sam Hauser Basketball Camp. Joey is one of the counselors along with some of Sam's other local buddies.
https://www.samhauserbasketball.com/
https://twitter.com/Big_Smooth10/status/1541921675196989443/photo/1
Joey show them how to fall down?
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I’m not a Sam hater by any means, but “try on a game worn Finals jersey” is f-ing hilarious
He played more Finals minutes than Markus.
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He played more Finals minutes than Markus.
Is Markus hosting a similar promotion?
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He played more Finals minutes than Markus.
He also played more Finals minutes than Steve Nash. What's your point?
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Sam getting a 3 year 6 Million contract with the Celtics. 2 years are guaranteed.
Congrats to him. That is a nice show of commitment by The Celtics.
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He also played more Finals minutes than Steve Nash. What's your point?
This made me laugh.
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Joey show them how to fall down?
Nope, he's teaching the class on letter writing and general annoyance.
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I think after his pro career is over, Sam will go into coaching. He was always talking to his teammates on the court at Marquette, as he had a 6th sense of the developing play. Announcers sometimes referred to Sam as the "glue guy". During his sit out year at UVA, I saw him sometimes jump up from his seat when the game came to his end of the court and start talking to UVA team, often pointing out an opponent about to make a move.
I rarely have an opportunity to attend a Marquette game but was able to go to DC for the Georgetown game in '19 when Markus had to sit it out the game after the first couple of minutes due to back spasms. To me. it was Sam's best game (yeah, the fact that I was there is a big factor in my statement) as Sam was the "do all" guy who guided us to a squeaker win. GT had a golden opportunity to win when, down 1 with about 10 seconds to go, they inbounded on their end of the court. Akinjo ignored Ewing's instructions and bounced off Theo in a laughable layup attempt, then fouled Sam on the rebound. Two free throws later, Sam nailed GT's coffin shut with just a few seconds left.
I get the anger at Joey but Let It Go! I think Sam should be remembered for all the good stuff he did for MU (remember the .8 second game saving shot vs. Creighton?) rather than trashed for a difficult decision involving family and the messy letter writing crap.
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I think after his pro career is over, Sam will go into coaching. He was always talking to his teammates on the court at Marquette, as he had a 6th sense of the developing play. Announcers sometimes referred to Sam as the "glue guy". During his sit out year at UVA, I saw him sometimes jump up from his seat when the game came to his end of the court and start talking to UVA team, often pointing out an opponent about to make a move.
I rarely have an opportunity to attend a Marquette game but was able to go to DC for the Georgetown game in '19 when Markus had to sit it out the game after the first couple of minutes due to back spasms. To me. it was Sam's best game (yeah, the fact that I was there is a big factor in my statement) as Sam was the "do all" guy who guided us to a squeaker win. GT had a golden opportunity to win when, down 1 with about 10 seconds to go, they inbounded on their end of the court. Akinjo ignored Ewing's instructions and bounced off Theo in a laughable layup attempt, then fouled Sam on the rebound. Two free throws later, Sam nailed GT's coffin shut with just a few seconds left.
I get the anger at Joey but Let It Go! I think Sam should be remembered for all the good stuff he did for MU (remember the .8 second game saving shot vs. Creighton?) rather than trashed for a difficult decision involving family and the messy letter writing crap.
Nah
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I think after his pro career is over, Sam will go into coaching. He was always talking to his teammates on the court at Marquette, as he had a 6th sense of the developing play. Announcers sometimes referred to Sam as the "glue guy". During his sit out year at UVA, I saw him sometimes jump up from his seat when the game came to his end of the court and start talking to UVA team, often pointing out an opponent about to make a move.
I rarely have an opportunity to attend a Marquette game but was able to go to DC for the Georgetown game in '19 when Markus had to sit it out the game after the first couple of minutes due to back spasms. To me. it was Sam's best game (yeah, the fact that I was there is a big factor in my statement) as Sam was the "do all" guy who guided us to a squeaker win. GT had a golden opportunity to win when, down 1 with about 10 seconds to go, they inbounded on their end of the court. Akinjo ignored Ewing's instructions and bounced off Theo in a laughable layup attempt, then fouled Sam on the rebound. Two free throws later, Sam nailed GT's coffin shut with just a few seconds left.
I get the anger at Joey but Let It Go! I think Sam should be remembered for all the good stuff he did for MU (remember the .8 second game saving shot vs. Creighton?) rather than trashed for a difficult decision involving family and the messy letter writing crap.
I agree with this analysis
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Analysis of Celtics Summer League roster . Lots of 3 Point shooters . Sam at top of list
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/nba-power-rankings-sam-hauser-headlines-intrigue-celtics-summer-leaguers
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https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2022/07/sam-hauser-wants-to-reward-celtics-faith-in-him-after-earning-long-term-deal-i-just-want-to-prove-i-belong.html
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Sam hurt shoulder again….Hope he doesn’t need surgery
https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2022/07/four-takeaways-from-celtics-111-109-win-over-bucks-in-summer-league-as-sam-hauser-matt-ryan-mfiondu-kabengele-shine.html
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https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/celtics-sam-hauser-sends-strong-message-during-summer-league/
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https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/celtics-sam-hauser-sends-strong-message-during-summer-league/
How’d he send the strong message? Letter? Carrier pigeon? Singing telegram?
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How’d he send the strong message? Letter? Carrier pigeon? Singing telegram?
If the Celtics are serious about winning another title, they can’t have a Hauser on the team. This isn’t high school
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Joey strategizing for the up coming season
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/college/msu/mens-basketball/2022/07/15/michigan-state-basketball-joey-hauser-malik-hall-moneyball/10060219002/
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Joey strategizing for the up coming season
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/college/msu/mens-basketball/2022/07/15/michigan-state-basketball-joey-hauser-malik-hall-moneyball/10060219002/
Hope he quits falling down
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Looks like the kids had a good time at The Sam Hauser Basketball Camp this week
https://www.wsaw.com/2022/07/26/sam-hauser-returns-stevens-point-host-basketball-camp/
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Looks like the kids had a good time at The Sam Hauser Basketball Camp this week
https://www.wsaw.com/2022/07/26/sam-hauser-returns-stevens-point-host-basketball-camp/
Did they write letters in cursive at all?
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https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/celtics-player-spotlight-how-sam-hauser-can-develop-rotation-player
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https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/celtics-player-spotlight-how-sam-hauser-can-develop-rotation-player
As a Bucks fan, I pray Sam finds himself in the rotation if the Bucks run into the C’s in the Playoffs.
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He's got $6M guaranteed, and if he's hitting 3s he can earn PT.
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https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/danilo_gallinaris_injury_opens_up_opportunity_for_second_year_celtics_forward_sam_hauser/s1_14822_37823413
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He's got $6M guaranteed
This is patently false. Stop the lies!!
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This is patently false. Stop the lies!!
You know it is possibly to just say "actually only the first 2 years of the 6 million dollar contract are guaranteed"
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That isn't how JB rolls.
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Details of Sams Contract
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/sam-hauser-74311/
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I sit corrected.
Thanks for the info, 9-9-9 and JB.
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You have to weigh in a lot of considerations, but the Celtics declining his 2022-23 & instead negotiating this deal could work out worse for Sam vs if he had been exercised, yes?
This coming season, he’s gonna be paid about the same either way.
If they had exercised, then it’s a question of does he have a job next year? Does he get a hefty bump and a longer term deal?
Now, he gets a small bump in 2023-24, but it’s guaranteed. If the next two years go well and Boston exercises year 3, it looks bad for him in hindsight.
If he really wanted the security of these next 2 years, likes the organization, etc… could totally makes sense for him. But, to me it looks like a nice deal for the Celts. Low risk, with the potential to have a rotation player for the cheap for a couple of years.
Plus, I think he’ll be in his late 20s after the 3 years, should they exercise.
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This is patently false. Stop the lies!!
Oh no, only $3.6 million guaranteed. Poor dude, off to the poor house he goes.
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You have to weigh in a lot of considerations, but the Celtics declining his 2022-23 & instead negotiating this deal could work out worse for Sam vs if he had been exercised, yes?
This coming season, he’s gonna be paid about the same either way.
If they had exercised, then it’s a question of does he have a job next year? Does he get a hefty bump and a longer term deal?
Now, he gets a small bump in 2023-24, but it’s guaranteed. If the next two years go well and Boston exercises year 3, it looks bad for him in hindsight.
If he really wanted the security of these next 2 years, likes the organization, etc… could totally makes sense for him. But, to me it looks like a nice deal for the Celts. Low risk, with the potential to have a rotation player for the cheap for a couple of years.
Plus, I think he’ll be in his late 20s after the 3 years, should they exercise.
I agree with this analysis
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You have to weigh in a lot of considerations, but the Celtics declining his 2022-23 & instead negotiating this deal could work out worse for Sam vs if he had been exercised, yes?
This coming season, he’s gonna be paid about the same either way.
If they had exercised, then it’s a question of does he have a job next year? Does he get a hefty bump and a longer term deal?
Now, he gets a small bump in 2023-24, but it’s guaranteed. If the next two years go well and Boston exercises year 3, it looks bad for him in hindsight.
If he really wanted the security of these next 2 years, likes the organization, etc… could totally makes sense for him. But, to me it looks like a nice deal for the Celts. Low risk, with the potential to have a rotation player for the cheap for a couple of years.
Plus, I think he’ll be in his late 20s after the 3 years, should they exercise.
It gives both sides a sense of security. I like to think Sam's lawyer/agent/adviser told him about all the options and he made a choice he felt good about. I wish him well.
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I wonder how if Udoka suspension will hurt Sam. He was a big sponsor of Sam.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/nia-long-fiance-ime-udoka-affair-suspension-boston-celtics-171135016.html
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I wonder how if Udoka suspension will hurt Sam. He was a big sponsor of Sam.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/nia-long-fiance-ime-udoka-affair-suspension-boston-celtics-171135016.html
Maybe he was sleeping with Sam’s mom
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https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2022/09/boston-celtics-mailbag-disabled-player-exception-options-sam-hauser-role-al-horfords-next-contract.html
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The Celtics rested several players last night, so Hauser got the preseason start against the Hornets.
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401474869
Sam had 9 pts on 3-7 shooting (all from 3), 4R, 2A in 24 mins. He was a -6, and he and the rest of the starters were outplayed by a bad Charlotte team; the Hornets led 35-22 after 1 quarter.
I didn't watch the game. Saw a few highlights later, and the only one I saw involving Hauser was him getting beat by Terry Rozier after a switch. Rozier is extremely fast and Sam is, well, Sam.
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You just don't like him. Its obvious, hey?
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You just don't like him. Its obvious, hey?
Don’t let the door hit yeah on the way out, aina?
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Why not put the blame for the entire Howard/Hausers fiasco squarely on the nitwit who was in charge. Ultimately, it resulted in his chitcannin', aina?
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Why not put the blame for the entire Howard/Hausers fiasco squarely on the nitwit who was in charge. Ultimately, it resulted in his chitcannin', aina?
If you leave Marquette as a player, it has been established, don’t let the door hit you on the way out, aina?
Not white sure why the Hausers get a pass in this regard
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Howard is a better scorer than either Hauser. But, Joey and Sam both are better basketball players than Markus. The problem was Woj alined himself with #0 from the start and that was doomed to take him down. A better coach and more experienced head coach would have handled that spat within the locker room and pissed out the little campfire long before it became a 5 alarm blaze. Shout out to Fahrenheit 451, hey?
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Howard is a better scorer than either Hauser. But, Joey and Sam both are better basketball players than Markus. The problem was Woj alined himself with #0 from the start and that was doomed to take him down. A better coach and more experienced head coach would have handled that spat within the locker room and pissed out the little campfire long before it became a 5 alarm blaze. Shout out to Fahrenheit 451, hey?
Joey sucks
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Why not put the blame for the entire Howard/Hausers fiasco squarely on the nitwit who was in charge. Ultimately, it resulted in his chitcannin', aina?
i believe sam was caught in the crossfire and tried to do things the right way for himself and his family. his decisions, although probably uncomfortable are paying off for him. he minds his own business, works hard and good things are happening. even if it doesn't work out long term in NBA or europe(if he wants), character always wins. he just got engaged to a real sweetheart of a girl and they are going to do very well
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Howard is a better scorer than either Hauser. But, Joey and Sam both are better basketball players than Markus. The problem was Woj alined himself with #0 from the start and that was doomed to take him down. A better coach and more experienced head coach would have handled that spat within the locker room and pissed out the little campfire long before it became a 5 alarm blaze. Shout out to Fahrenheit 451, hey?
Wojo frankly had no idea how to coach his rosters and Howard's talents actually highlighted his incompetence as a HC. I dunno if he "aligned himself" with Markus but he didn't define roles for anyone else. There was a smoke and mirrors aspect to our success because Howard was electrifying and Rowsey could also go bananas. However, our great fans and others that had eyes knew this was not sustainable for tournament success. Especially because our defense was a dumpster fire. I still think Sam should have stayed his Sr. season and worked through the tumult but Wojo was honesty an unmitigated disaster.
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You just don't like him. Its obvious, hey?
As I’ve said many, many times, I liked Sam during his time at Marquette. He played hard and played well.
But L’il Bro put him in a no-win situation. And once he felt forced to quit MU due to his family … next man up, nu?
BTW, I was one of the few here who thought Sam would have an NBA career. I even won a bet from your buddy Crash, not that I ever expect to get paid.
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Joey didn't put him in a no win spot. Limp Dick Woj was hoping beyond hope that he could play good cop, good cop. How that disaster ever qualified for admittance to Duke is beyond logical explanation, hey?
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Joey didn't put him in a no win spot. Limp Dick Woj was hoping beyond hope that he could play good cop, good cop. How that disaster ever qualified for admittance to Duke is beyond logical explanation, hey?
https://twitter.com/bobbystompy/status/1502467656561180673?s=46&t=lj6ymgQOAyTvu72QoF5toQ
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Joey didn't put him in a no win spot. Limp Dick Woj was hoping beyond hope that he could play good cop, good cop. How that disaster ever qualified for admittance to Duke is beyond logical explanation, hey?
You seem fascinated with male genitalia.
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The Celtics rested several players last night, so Hauser got the preseason start against the Hornets.
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401474869
Sam had 9 pts on 3-7 shooting (all from 3), 4R, 2A in 24 mins. He was a -6, and he and the rest of the starters were outplayed by a bad Charlotte team; the Hornets led 35-22 after 1 quarter.
I didn't watch the game. Saw a few highlights later, and the only one I saw involving Hauser was him getting beat by Terry Rozier after a switch. Rozier is extremely fast and Sam is, well, Sam.
Sam is paid by the Celtics to shoot 40 percent from 3 and pick up a couple of assists here and there. So pretty much doing his job as defined .
Delighted to see him getting minutes . much better than DNP- Coaches Decision
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Sam is paid by the Celtics to shoot 40 percent from 3 and pick up a couple of assists here and there. So pretty much doing his job as defined .
Delighted to see him getting minutes . much better than DNP- Coaches Decision
I neither said nor suggested anything else.
I expected him to have an NBA career because he is an elite shooter, and he is having an NBA career because he is an elite shooter.
I presented a fact-filled post and, as with any post about the Hausers, it results in the relitigation of the fiasco that both Hausers, their parents and Wojo all played a major part in.
I mean, it’s only been 3 1/2 years … so of course.
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Sam shooting 60 percent pre season games ,Pushing for minutes .
https://nesn.com/2022/10/celtics-sam-hauser-reveals-which-nba-players-he-studies/
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Sam shooting 60 percent pre season games ,Pushing for minutes .
https://nesn.com/2022/10/celtics-sam-hauser-reveals-which-nba-players-he-studies/
Hope he gets them or he’ll have to write a very stringent letter
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BTW, I was one of the few here who thought Sam would have an NBA career. I even won a bet from your buddy Crash, not that I ever expect to get paid.
Have you tried contacting his HR department to register a complaint?
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Have you tried contacting his HR department to register a complaint?
Well played.
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https://masslive.com/celtics/2022/10/jayson-tatum-credits-noah-vonleh-sam-hauser-as-bench-helps-celtics-win-over-heat.html
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https://masslive.com/celtics/2022/10/jayson-tatum-credits-noah-vonleh-sam-hauser-as-bench-helps-celtics-win-over-heat.html
2-3 from 3 and +12. Gave the Celtics 13 turnover-free minutes. Sam can have a long, profitable NBA career.
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2-3 from 3 and +12. Gave the Celtics 13 turnover-free minutes. Sam can have a long, profitable NBA career.
At the end of the day, his brother still sucks
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At the end of the day, his brother still sucks
It is what it is.
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A other solid night shooting for Sam 3/4 from 3 in 9 minutes in the Celtic win over The Magic tonight
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Sam had another quality outing on Sunday in the Celtics win.
Sam is shooting 55.6 % from 3 so far this season.
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Excellent article on Sam recent games and outlook
https://www.celticsblog.com/2022/11/1/23433181/sam-hauser-boston-celtics-washington-wizards-time-to-shine-three-point-specialist
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Hellofa playa, aina?
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Hellofa playa, aina?
I agree with this analysis
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Hellofa playa, aina?
Quitter, too. When the going gets tough, run away, aina?
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A flaccid nitwit can do that to ya, hey?
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Quitter, too. When the going gets tough, write a letter, and run away, aina?
FIFY
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A flaccid nitwit can do that to ya, hey?
Sure, if you’re mentally soft. Many farm boys are
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Hellofa playa, aina?
Ja Morant, who nutsacked L'il Joey, is a hellofa playa. Luka Doncic is a hellofa playa. Paolo Banchero looks like he'll be a hellofa playa.
Sam Hauser is what you like to call "just a smoe." He has scored 98 points in 32 games (mostly garbage-time appearances) over 1+ NBA seasons. It looks like he's getting some more meaningful minutes now, and that's cool.
He was a fine college player who has a chance to have a long pro career thanks to one very in-demand skill and a good basketball IQ.
We'll see if Sam is ever 1/100th as good as Khris and Jrue, two of the guys you've labeled "smoes."
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Ja Morant, who nutsacked L'il Joey, is a hellofa playa. Luka Doncic is a hellofa playa. Paolo Banchero looks like he'll be a hellofa playa.
Sam Hauser is what you like to call "just a smoe." He has scored 98 points in 32 games (mostly garbage-time appearances) over 1+ NBA seasons. It looks like he's getting some more meaningful minutes now, and that's cool.
He was a fine college player who has a chance to have a long pro career thanks to one very in-demand skill and a good basketball IQ.
We'll see if Sam is ever 1/100th as good as Khris and Jrue, two of the guys you've labeled "smoes."
/endorse
Sam is 'just a guy'.
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Ja Morant, who nutsacked L'il Joey, is a hellofa playa. Luka Doncic is a hellofa playa. Paolo Banchero looks like he'll be a hellofa playa.
Sam Hauser is what you like to call "just a smoe." He has scored 98 points in 32 games (mostly garbage-time appearances) over 1+ NBA seasons. It looks like he's getting some more meaningful minutes now, and that's cool.
He was a fine college player who has a chance to have a long pro career thanks to one very in-demand skill and a good basketball IQ.
We'll see if Sam is ever 1/100th as good as Khris and Jrue, two of the guys you've labeled "smoes."
Maybe if Bailey hadn't been burned so badly and actually paid attention to his man (Ja) and Theo was paying attention to the ball instead of standing still, Joey wouldn't have been the only player who tried to stop Ja, dropping off of his man and coming across the lane to play defense. But no, you have to keep obsession over a then 19-year-old kid.
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Maybe if Bailey hadn't been burned so badly and actually paid attention to his man (Ja) and Theo was paying attention to the ball instead of standing still, Joey wouldn't have been the only player who tried to stop Ja, dropping off of his man and coming across the lane to play defense. But no, you have to keep obsession over a then 19-year-old kid.
1. He wasn't a kid
2. Ja dunked on him.
3. He left Marquette in humiliation soon after.
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Maybe if Bailey hadn't been burned so badly and actually paid attention to his man (Ja) and Theo was paying attention to the ball instead of standing still, Joey wouldn't have been the only player who tried to stop Ja, dropping off of his man and coming across the lane to play defense. But no, you have to keep obsession over a then 19-year-old kid.
(https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/mcdonalds/t-mcdonalds-Vanilla-Reduced-Fat-Ice-Cream-Cone:product-header-desktop?wid=830&hei=456&dpr=off)
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What is an obsession? Posting updates on players that transferred each time they do something or mocking it? Maybe it all is and silly
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There are less than 5000 NBA players all time. Less than 500 in a given year.
Roughly 5000 kids player D1 ball every year. Sam is one of less than 40 MU players in over 100 years of the program, and well over 1000 student athletes, who has played in the NBA.
He is a hell of a player. Full stop. That doesn't change because his brother is a whiny tool who will massively underachieve his HS ranking and hype. Steve Novak, who is rightfully beloved around this parts, scored 186 pts in his first 2 seasons on a team that wasn't challenging for Finals berths, like Sam's Celtics. Sam will blow by that at this rate.
The obsession with Sam, both good and bad, around here is baffling. He's a seemingly good dude, great basketball player who could be a serviceable pro, which is kind of crazy for a dude from Northern Wisconsin. Kudos to him and hopefully Joey can see a lot of his games when he wakes up early for practice in Sweden or Romania.
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Maybe if Bailey hadn't been burned so badly and actually paid attention to his man (Ja) and Theo was paying attention to the ball instead of standing still, Joey wouldn't have been the only player who tried to stop Ja, dropping off of his man and coming across the lane to play defense. But no, you have to keep obsession over a then 19-year-old kid.
Yeah, but Bailey didn’t leave early (oh wait, he did) and Theo didn’t finish elsewhere (oh wait, he did) or lecture Marquette fans on what they needed to think in order to be Marquette fans (oh wait, he did). Hmmm….
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Yeah, but Bailey didn’t leave early (oh wait, he did) and Theo didn’t finish elsewhere (oh wait, he did) or lecture Marquette fans on what they needed to think in order to be Marquette fans (oh wait, he did). Hmmm….
Start a thread about them. No one is stopping you. Hmmm….
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Yeah, but Bailey didn’t leave early (oh wait, he did) and Theo didn’t finish elsewhere (oh wait, he did) or lecture Marquette fans on what they needed to think in order to be Marquette fans (oh wait, he did). Hmmm….
If only Theo had written a letter instead.
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If only Theo had written a letter instead.
Theo got his degree at Marquette. Kolek him, aina?
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Start a thread about them. No one is stopping you. Hmmm….
No need, I’m not obsessed about them. A simple observation suffices.
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Yeah, but Bailey didn’t leave early (oh wait, he did) and Theo didn’t finish elsewhere (oh wait, he did) or lecture Marquette fans on what they needed to think in order to be Marquette fans (oh wait, he did). Hmmm….
Lecture? Lol.
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No need, I’m not obsessed about them. A simple observation suffices.
Obviously
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Joey is optimistic about the season. Lost weight too.
https://statenews.com/article/2022/10/i-feel-really-good-about-where-im-at-right-now-joey-hauser-primed-for-final-season-at-msu?ct=content_open&cv=cbox_latest
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There are less than 5000 NBA players all time. Less than 500 in a given year.
Roughly 5000 kids player D1 ball every year. Sam is one of less than 40 MU players in over 100 years of the program, and well over 1000 student athletes, who has played in the NBA.
He is a hell of a player. Full stop. That doesn't change because his brother is a whiny tool who will massively underachieve his HS ranking and hype. Steve Novak, who is rightfully beloved around this parts, scored 186 pts in his first 2 seasons on a team that wasn't challenging for Finals berths, like Sam's Celtics. Sam will blow by that at this rate.
The obsession with Sam, both good and bad, around here is baffling. He's a seemingly good dude, great basketball player who could be a serviceable pro, which is kind of crazy for a dude from Northern Wisconsin. Kudos to him and hopefully Joey can see a lot of his games when he wakes up early for practice in Sweden or Romania.
Yep. I wonder if this thread will last as long as the annual thread bringing up the mascot change.
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Yep. I wonder if this thread will last as long as the annual thread bringing up the mascot change.
Yes
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Joey is optimistic about the season. Lost weight too.
https://statenews.com/article/2022/10/i-feel-really-good-about-where-im-at-right-now-joey-hauser-primed-for-final-season-at-msu?ct=content_open&cv=cbox_latest
Best part of college basketball season outside scoop is Michigan State fans opining on Joey
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No need, I’m not obsessed about them. A simple observation suffices.
You should be preaching to Herman then since he posts in this topic more than anyone.
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You should be preaching to Herman then since he posts in this topic more than anyone.
And I'm guessing that I have the second-most positive posts (if not the first-most) about Sam in this thread.
I've always liked him, I thought he was put in a rough position by his brother, I predicted he'd have an NBA career (even bet keefe, who was among the many Scoopers saying "no way"), and I've posted information about good outings by him.
I don't think he's a "great" player or a "hellofa" player, at least not the way most would define those terms. He was a fine college player who has a shot at a long NBA career as a role player, and he could make significant money if he keeps hitting 3s.
Joey was at Marquette for about a minute. And while some of the minute was good, much of it wasn't. He faded down the stretch, he played soft, he pouted when criticized and he was a big reason it all collapsed. (I've said many times, including in this thread, that Wojo was the major reason, because it's a coach's job to keep his locker room together.)
We'll see if Joey's third season under a Hall of Fame coach is any better than his first two at MSU, or if he peaked during his first few months as a Marquette freshman. Everyone knows he has some offensive talent. Maybe this will be his year.
I understand the appreciation of Sam because I share it. But it's baffling that many of the same people who love Joey -- who contributed almost nothing positive to Marquette basketball during his short time with the team -- have no problem ripping a two-time All-American who graduated from the school and who has done nothing but represent our alma mater with class.
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J2N
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Yep. I wonder if this thread will last as long as the annual thread bringing up the mascot change.
Are you advocating we change the mascot to Sam? ;D
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Are you advocating we change the mascot to Sam? ;D
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I learned to love Sam Hauser during his time at MU and was upset when the brothers left. I hope Sam plays in the league for 10+ years and makes a ton of money. He was a very nice part of MU program for three years and would have been very fondling remembered by anyone that knows anything if he stayed his final year.
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I learned to love Sam : : :oooHauser during his time at MU : :ooand was upset when the brothers left. I hope Sam plays in the league for 10+ years and makes a ton of money. He was a very nice part of MU program for three years and would have been very fondling remembered by anyone that knows anything if he stayed his final year.
:o :o :o Man you REALLY like Sam I guess.
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Oh, there's been some fondling of Sam on this board.
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Oh, there's been some fondling of Sam on this board.
That’s because too many of you don’t know balls
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although we haven't seen him play one minute this year, judging from izzo's comments, it's very telling what a REAL coach can do for a players attitude. yes, part of this is maturation, but surely he needed a bit more guidance his first 2 years out of high school that was obviously lacking. to become an "all big ten player"...umm, ok. never bad to aim high, eyn'a?
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although we haven't seen him play one minute this year, judging from izzo's comments, it's very telling what a REAL coach can do for a players attitude. yes, part of this is maturation, but surely he needed a bit more guidance his first 2 years out of high school that was obviously lacking. to become an "all big ten player"...umm, ok. never bad to aim high, eyn'a?
It’s his 5th year in college. Maybe he’ll stop falling down all the time and become an “all big ten player” now that’s he’s older than all his competetion
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It’s his 5th year in college. Maybe he’ll stop falling down all the time and become an “all big ten player” now that’s he’s older than all his competetion
Haha right. He’s only been with his “REAL” coach for 4 years now. Takes a while to change that attitude I guess.
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Haha right. He’s only been with his “REAL” coach for 4 years now. Takes a while to change that attitude I guess.
That’s how a real coach operates. Let the guy underachieve for two years to change his attitude in his 3rd year (5th year for realZ)
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The turning point in my attitude toward Joey came watching Izzo screaming at him on the bench while Joey, almost in tears, said 'I don't know what you want me to do. '
At that point, I moved on.
I like Sparty and Izzo. It would be nice if Joey was productive.
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The turning point in my attitude toward Joey came watching Izzo screaming at him on the bench while Joey, almost in tears, said 'I don't know what you want me to do. '
At that point, I moved on.
I like Sparty and Izzo. It would be nice if Joey was productive.
Play harder!!
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Izzo has spent the last couple of years sitting Joey every time he was selfish on the offensive end or lazy on the defensive end.
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Izzo has spent the last couple of years sitting Joey every time he was selfish on the offensive end or lazy on the defensive end.
The most ironic thing is Wojo utilized his skill set (including protecting his weaknesses) better than Izzo. Izzo has him in a role within his system which is how Izzo has been successful. That transition has not been kind to Pal Joey.
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Ssshhhhhhh!
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https://sports.yahoo.com/celtics-sam-hauser-helps-break-180630918.html
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https://sports.yahoo.com/celtics-sam-hauser-helps-break-180630918.html
Did he kick anyone better than him out of the gym?
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https://sports.yahoo.com/celtics-sam-hauser-helps-break-180630918.html
What a douche
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Nice article on Sam from the Atlantic - a common them throughout his career has been the quote of "he just plays the right way." I recall JJJ calling Sam his favorite player as a freshman. Think it will be Boston and the Bucks in the Eastern Conference Finals:
NEW YORK — After a record-setting night for the Celtics offense, Jayson Tatum and Sam Hauser went back and forth over a most important matter: Hauser’s 3-point celebrations.
Though Hauser said he’s not big on them most of the time, he apparently broke character once on Saturday night. After one of his four first-half 3-point makes, he cracked up Tatum with an over-the-top reaction. Following a quick postgame lift, Tatum asked Hauser to repeat what he had said after the shot.
“I said, ‘Boom, motherf—-r,’” Hauser replied.
He might need to find a new catchphrase. Tatum suggested that one doesn’t fit Hauser’s personality. Either way, the moment gave the two teammates plenty of laughs after a 133-118 win against the Knicks. And, hey, the line might even make sense as a motto for the Celtics, who continued a red-hot shooting start to the season with a franchise-record 27 3-pointers. All nine Boston players who appeared in the game drilled at least one triple, including Tatum, Hauser and Jaylen Brown, who combined for 17 makes. Early in this young season, the Celtics have used their abundance of shooters to stretch opposing defenses to their breaking point.
“I think that’s the thing with our team, right?” said Joe Mazzulla. “Because of our spacing we can get a really good look the majority of the time.”
At their best, that’s how the Celtics have played. After beating their previous record of 25 3-point makes with a 27-for-51 performance from long range, they top the NBA with an average of 16 3-point makes per game. Known more last season for their big, physical defense, they left Saturday night in a virtual tie with the Mavericks for the league lead in offensive efficiency. Lately, the second unit has charged some powerful runs thanks partly to Hauser’s emergence as another knockdown threat. The second-year pro, who only played 158 total minutes as a rookie, has made 17 of 31 3-point attempts so far this season (54.8 percent) while earning a bigger role. Mazzulla had a simple explanation for what Hauser has done to receive more minutes over the past couple of games.
“Shoot 3s,” Mazzulla said.
The coach stopped there for a second before eventually expanding on his reasoning.
“No, listen, he just plays the right way,” Mazzulla said. “He plays the right way, he knows how to play off the other guys, he can read defenses, he puts a lot of pressure on the defense. So it really helps our spacing. And he’s continuing to work at getting better at his defense.”
The Celtics have long relied on Tatum and Brown to give the nets a workout. The supporting cast around those two hasn’t always been filled with sharpshooters, but the team now boasts a second unit filled with outside threats. Lately, Mazzulla has turned up the offense by unleashing lineups with Tatum and three bench shooters: Hauser, Malcolm Brogdon and Grant Williams. Over 46 minutes with those four players on the court, the Celtics’ offense has walloped teams to the tune of 131.9 points per 100 possessions. Mazzulla rode that quartet to a huge run against Chicago on Friday night, then went back to it late in the first quarter against New York. The Celtics, who were tied 22-22 when those players first appeared at the same time, went on a 19-7 run over the next 4:31. Hauser made three of his five 3-pointers during the spurt.
“Sam is lights out,” said Jaylen Brown. “You can’t leave him. We’re looking for him. Once he hit a couple, we’re looking for him, and Sam is always ready. He works hard, and he’s developing a nice role for himself in this league.”
The formula for those Tatum plus bench groups is obvious. Though they have only played together for a small sample size so far, their scoring success should be at least somewhat sustainable. Williams and Hauser are both knockdown shooters. Tatum is one of the league’s most well-rounded offensive players. Brogdon has had no trouble getting to the paint early this season, especially with all of those threats around him. To this stage of the season, the mix has helped to produce some of the Celtics’ best stretches. Tatum has noticed the increased spacing on the court.
“Just because (in) that group we’ve got two primary ball-handlers (surrounded by) Sam and Grant,” Tatum said. “They’re either gonna shoot it or pass it. I’m not saying they can’t dribble but I think it just speeds things up. Those guys are great moving the ball, slipping out of screens, just finding the right spacing out there.”
How efficiently has the Celtics bench scored the ball? The team’s second-unit players have shot a combined 52.3 percent from the field, including 49 percent from 3-point range. Grant Williams, at 53.8 percent, is positioned directly behind Hauser in third place in NBA 3-point shooting percentage. Brogdon has hit a respectable 37.9 percent from deep while giving the Celtics a consistent driving threat. When he’s on the court, the offense has often run through him, leaving him with a greater usage rate than he had last season in Indiana. That’s a surprise because the Celtics have far more talent than that Pacers team did, but Mazzulla has put the ball in Brogdon’s hands from the start. He has benefited from the shooters around him and vice versa.
No other Celtics player has shot like Hauser so far. Though still just nine games into the regular season, the early returns suggest he has had a significant impact opening up the Boston offense. The Celtics have blasted defenses during his minutes, scoring 127.9 points per 100 possessions. Hauser and Boston’s best off-the-dribble creators have found an obvious synergy.
“He spreads the floor,” said Marcus Smart. “When you’ve got a knockdown shooter over there, it’s tough. It’s tough for you to help off somebody like him and try to help on Jayson and try to help on Jaylen and those guys and Malcolm and me coming down the lane. It just makes it that much easier for us. And then if they do stop us, you’ve got a guy that you know is going to knock it down. It really keeps the defenses honest.”
Though their offense has been sharp so far, the Celtics must be dreaming about how dangerous they will be once Robert Williams returns. He said he has been “stepping it up” in workouts after returning to on-court work a couple of weeks ago. Williams said he is dunking again, feels good and has not experienced any setbacks. During workouts, he said he can do “really anything” physically.
“They just try to hold me (back from) being a little too explosive sometimes, take my time with it,” Williams said. “But pick-and-rolls, running the court, really doing a lot.”
In one sign of how far he has progressed, Williams joined the Celtics on their road trip instead of staying back in Boston. In their own way, other Celtics players showed him how much they have missed his presence in the locker room. As he started chatting with a group of reporters in front of Tatum’s locker, Tatum piped up that Williams needed to take his conversation somewhere else. And when Williams said his Celtics teammates need him, just like he needs them, Smart also gave Williams a hard time.
“Nobody needs you, Rob,” Smart called over.
The Celtics were just kidding. They know how much they need Williams. He shifts their energy on both ends of the court. Their defense hasn’t been nearly the same without him, but their offense has boomed despite his absence.
“Our guys are getting comfortable with the fact that when we run good offense and we have good spacing and we read the defense we’re going to get a great look,” said Mazzulla. “When you’re shooting that volume there’s going to be some tough ones, but for the most part I think our guys do a great job of shooting the right ones.”
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The Celtics suck
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Sam is an elite shooter, and he had a heck of a game. Nice to see him succeed.
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The coach stopped there for a second before eventually expanding on his reasoning.
“No, listen, he just plays the right way,” Mazzulla said. “He plays the right way, he knows how to play off the other guys, he can read defenses, he puts a lot of pressure on the defense. So it really helps our spacing.
“He just plays the right way”. Sums up his game perfectly, and explains why he left MU.
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“He just plays the right way”. Sums up his game perfectly, and explains why he left MU.
Paid huge dividends. Joining the defending national champions, the program that defines "playing the game the right way," adding the definition of a player who "plays the game the right way," surely they made an incredible March run.
So unselfish that he put off an extra year of NBA earnings to enjoy all the incredible March success he did at Virgnia. Really smart kid.
Let's be honest. The explanation of why he left is because him and his brother are both spineless and baby bro is a Triple B. If Joey had a spine he would've gone to MSU in the first place and Sam would've remained at MU all four years and been in the NBA for an extra season. instead, Sam's spinelessness came out, too.
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I'm all for honesty. He came here, in part, due to the coach. And, he left due 100% because of the coach, hey?
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My sincere hope for humanity is that everyone finds someone who loves them as much as the meat-lovers love Sam Hauser.
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I'm all for honesty. He came here, in part, due to the coach. And, he left due 100% because of the coach, hey?
Meh. He left because he was told no. No coach can should let the inmates run the asylum.
Glad to see he is doing well in the league.
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My sincere hope for humanity is that everyone finds someone who loves them as much as the meat-lovers love Sam Hauser.
My sincere hope for you (and everybody) is that they have scores of people in their lives who love them.
I don’t love (or even like) Sam Hauser. I don’t know him, even a little. But I liked the way he played basketball and shared his opinion that 4 guys standing around watching one guy trying to beat the other team single-handedly wasn’t the best way to play the game.
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I don’t love (or even like) Sam Hauser.
Yet here you are, three and a half years after he left, still talking about him. Unrequited love is so hard.
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All because they’re white guys
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Hahaha...nailed it!!
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Yet here you are, three and a half years after he left, still talking about him. Unrequited love is so hard.
LOL. Not nearly as much as you.
We all talk about people we don’t know here - your 100,000 posts are mostly of that nature.
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Joey 18 and 10 in 31 minutes in The Spartan win tonight
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About time.
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Boom, motherf***er. Hellofa playa, hey?
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About time.
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Boom, motherf***er. Hellofa playa, hey?
Not bad for a 30 year old.
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My sincere hope for humanity is that everyone finds someone who loves them as much as the meat-lovers love Sam Hauser.
Honestly, I don't think many MU fans differ much on their opinions of Sam. He was a good part on MU teams, and we appreciated him (I think). OTOH, His brother is a selfish POS but meat lovers still love them some Joey! You see, wojo wouldn't contain Markus so that Joey could get his shots.
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Honestly, I don't think many MU fans differ much on their opinions of Sam. He was a good part on MU teams, and we appreciated him (I think). OTOH, His brother is a selfish POS but meat lovers still love them some Joey! You see, wojo wouldn't contain Markus so that Joey could get his shots.
Rocky
This meat eater couldn’t care less about Joey. You’re correct that Wojo couldn’t or wouldn’t contain Markus. If he could have we would have been a much better team. Not because Joey would have gotten more shots, but because all of those ill advised drives into the trees that ended up with Markus falling down out of bounds while the other team got a break away dunk wouldn’t have happened.
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8 games into his MSU career, Joey was averaging 14 ppg on .559 shooting (.441 from 3), including 27 against Madison, and Spartyland was in lust with him.
The rest of the season: 8 ppg on .431 shooting (.288 from 3) and 1.8 TO/game ... and Spartyland turned nasty on him.
He had a few decent games last season, too, but only a few, and he was a regular target of boo-birds.
So maybe let's not make a basketball god out of him for scoring 18 points against a team that went 9-23 last season. As of this moment, he still peaked during his first 3 months at Marquette, not during his 2+ seasons under a Hall of Fame coach.
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Not bad for a 30 year old.
I mean, a highly touted recruit should be a star by his fifth year in college. Glad Tom Izzo might get good play out of him after four years
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Sam tonight: 24 points in 32 minutes. And they seem to love him in Boston. I think he has arrived.
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Sam tonight: 24 points in 32 minutes. And they seem to love him in Boston. I think he has arrived.
Good luck keeping him on the court come Playoff time.
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Good luck keeping him on the court come Playoff time.
WTF??
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Sam tonight: 24 points in 32 minutes. And they seem to love him in Boston. I think he has arrived.
I think we're getting additional information that Wojo had no idea what he was doing. Very unfortunate he didn't have a more diversified offense.
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Boom...motherf***er, aina?
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WTF??
His defense is suspect and rotations will shorten. We will see.
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His defense is suspect and rotations will shorten. We will see.
+/- was -1 while the starters were all +15 or better. Stat can be deceiving, though. But the greater point stands about benches shortening for a reason
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WTF??
He was a -1, and doesn't fill the rest of the stat sheet. He's a shooter only.
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See: Robinson, Duncan (outside of the bubble).
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Boom...motherf***er, aina?
I agree with this analysis
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Boom...motherf***er, aina?
Apparently this will be your insightful analysis anytime any of Doc's Three Caucasian Gods have a good game.
They won't be rooting for each other because two of them hate the third, but you lust for them all.
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He was a -1, and doesn't fill the rest of the stat sheet. He's a shooter only.
You don’t know ball. Guys that can get buckets are better than complete players, aina?
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Good luck keeping him on the court come Playoff time.
He went 6-12 on 3 pointers in 32 minutes. Playoffs or not, that kind of production will earn you some playing time. I never said he was NBA all star material. But he's getting a chance to play and he's proving himself. WTF, a year ago now he was playing for the Maine Lobsters or some such thing in the G-League in front of 500 people. I'd say he is making strides.
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I'm with dick here. Sam had a great night and is having a solid start to the season for a contender. There's no need to sh*t on him. Just say congrats and move on.
There's also no need to have a 26 page (52 if you haven't expanded your posts per page) thread specifically dedicated to two players who transferred out over three years ago but I digress
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He went 6-12 on 3 pointers in 32 minutes. Playoffs or not, that kind of production will earn you some playing time. I never said he was NBA all star material. But he's getting a chance to play and he's proving himself. WTF, a year ago now he was playing for the Maine Lobsters or some such thing in the G-League in front of 500 people. I'd say he is making strides.
Agree 100%. The young man can shoot, and every team needs that ability. He can have a long, rich NBA career.
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https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3443724/move-over-zappe-fever-hausermania-has-arrived-and-its-incredible
Glad to see this
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Joey laid an egg tonight against Gonzaga
Fouled out 2 points and 1 board in 19 minutes
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Hell of a game by starter Joey. 2 points on 0-5 shooting, 1 rebound and 5 fouls in a loss to Gonzaga. What a difference a hall of fame coach can make!
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Hell of a game by starter Joey. 2 points on 0-5 shooting, 1 rebound and 5 fouls in a loss to Gonzaga. What a difference a hall of fame coach can make!
Hey, he had 3 turnovers, too
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Hey, he had 3 turnovers, too
How many times did he fall down?
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How many times did he fall down?
Not sure. But Gonzaga tipped the bottle over one more time than required.
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How many times did he fall down?
Checked Spartan Twitter to see. Lots of anti-Joey sentiment despite Tom Izzo making him into a great player. This was my favorite
https://twitter.com/preston37326718/status/1591245132753690624?s=46&t=PaV9dfdQEn5Un8Ot8N3Xlg
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pathetic - can we shut this down?
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Hell of a game by starter Joey. 2 points on 0-5 shooting, 1 rebound and 5 fouls in a loss to Gonzaga. What a difference a hall of fame coach can make!
Boom...motherf***er, aina?
The best stretch was when Joey committed 2 turnovers and airballed a 3 during the 11-0 run that got the Zags back in the game.
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Oh, if only Vanilla Soft Serve got to play every game against Northern Arizona!
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pathetic - can we shut this down?
Why?
Its in the superbar. Its a perfectly suitable thread.
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Why?
Its in the superbar. Its a perfectly suitable thread.
because it's pathetic and cringe - move on
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because it's pathetic and cringe - move on
Kinda like people that can't admit they were wrong.
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In a related story ...
Not sure what the Hall of Fame coach who was supposed to fix Joey was trying for on Sparty's final possession. They had 20+ seconds left when they got the ball ... and ended up heaving a no-chance prayer at the buzzer. Truly, a Wojo-riffic ending.
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In a related story ...
Not sure what the Hall of Fame coach who was supposed to fix Joey was trying for on Sparty's final possession. They had 20+ seconds left when they got the ball ... and ended up heaving a no-chance prayer at the buzzer. Truly, a Wojo-riffic ending.
In all seriousness, it’s not unique to an Izzo team. End of game situational basketball is terrible in college. Overcoaching is the culprit. Kids are too afraid to make a mistake instead of just playing
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In all seriousness, it’s not unique to an Izzo team. End of game situational basketball is terrible in college. Overcoaching is the culprit. Kids are too afraid to make a mistake instead of just playing
Yeah I hate they hold the ball instead of running an offense. To preach passing and movement, and then ignore that at the most critical time is nuts.
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I want to express my appreciation for the Saturday morning humor.
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Yeah I hate they hold the ball instead of running an offense. To preach passing and movement, and then ignore that at the most critical time is nuts.
What makes this case more egregious is, Joey is a team first player that wants to see the ball shared. Wonder if he’s thinking of transferring at break
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I want to express my appreciation for the Saturday morning humor.
https://twitter.com/joeyhauserhater/status/1591295812596035585?s=46&t=kxRvyEDPxen9DR1tnU4kaA
We have a few players get attacked occasionally on scoop but nothing ever like this that I can recall on social media. Thankfully
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Shameful. Cringeworthy. Let's go defend his honor to Spartan fans.
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Shameful. Cringeworthy. Let's go defend his honor to Spartan fans.
I think that account is going to get a blue check mark, so I’m afraid to
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In all seriousness, it’s not unique to an Izzo team. End of game situational basketball is terrible in college. Overcoaching is the culprit. Kids are too afraid to make a mistake instead of just playing
Agree with that, Unk.
As for this particular situation ... when you're down by 1, you run your play (rather than hold the ball) and try to score on the first good opportunity. Get the lead and then worry about playing defense.
Then again, maybe Izzo was sick of playing in that locale and wanted no chance of OT or even a series of time-outs. So just hold till the last half-second, launch one at the buzzer, and either lose (the likely outcome) or win.
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Shameful. Cringeworthy. Let's go defend his honor to Spartan fans.
Nah.
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https://twitter.com/joeyhauserhater/status/1591295812596035585?s=46&t=kxRvyEDPxen9DR1tnU4kaA
We have a few players get attacked occasionally on scoop but nothing ever like this that I can recall on social media. Thankfully
We shouldn't cast stones
https://twitter.com/Tylerkoleksucks?t=FQ1mrFjtq_jDCtImTu07-Q&s=09
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We shouldn't cast stones
https://twitter.com/Tylerkoleksucks?t=FQ1mrFjtq_jDCtImTu07-Q&s=09
This account has existed for over 8 months and has one follower - which I am sure is the person who created the account. Or Tyler Kolek.
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We shouldn't cast stones
https://twitter.com/Tylerkoleksucks?t=FQ1mrFjtq_jDCtImTu07-Q&s=09
To be fair, that’s probably nolongerwarriors
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This account has existed for over 8 months and has one follower - which I am sure is the person who created the account. Or Tyler Kolek.
And the account that tower is (rightfully) criticizing and saying that we've never had something like has 2 followers. Both are embarrassing behavior
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And the account that tower is (rightfully) criticizing and saying that we've never had something like has 2 followers. Both are embarrassing behavior
Have a grape soda
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This account has existed for over 8 months and has one follower - which I am sure is the person who created the account. Or Tyler Kolek.
Oh wait, let’s see what Tyler thinks:
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Joey contributed a lot in the first half of Sparty versus Kentucky . Spartans up two at half
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Congrats to Joey on a big night.
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Congrats to Joey on a big night.
Outstanding game for Joey 23-8-1 4-7 from 3 in Spartans win
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I was busy watching our alma mater so I didn't have a chance to watch the former Marquette player, but the stat line sure looks great and Sparty beat a real good team.
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Sam’s efg% tonight - 120%. 15 points on 6 shots.
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Sam’s efg% tonight - 120%. 15 points on 6 shots.
So far it’s turning out that The Celtics are getting a heckuva bargain on the Sam signing for three years.
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Boom motherfooker, hey?
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Boom motherfooker, hey?
Out of curiousity, what’s more important? Marquette or Hauser success?
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Both, MU is on a great path. Finally have a coach who, not only is talented, but also can relate to today's student athlete.
We have neither with Woj. I'm happy for Sam and for my alma mater, hey?
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Both, MU is on a great path. Finally have a coach who, not only is talented, but also can relate to today's student athlete.
We have neither with Woj. I'm happy for Sam and for my alma mater, hey?
But you cheered against Marquette when Wojo was here
You cheering for Justin Lewis to make it?
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Both, MU is on a great path. Finally have a coach who, not only is talented, but also can relate to today's student athlete.
We have neither with Woj. I'm happy for Sam and for my alma mater, hey?
What are your thoughts on the coach who is not only talented, but can also relate to today's student athlete having the same amount of NCAA Tournament wins over the last 7 seasons as the guy who was untalented and couldn't relate to today's student athlete in his 7 seasons at Marquette? With the current coach spending 6 of those 7 seasons at a better program than Marquette?
Same question for Elon, Brew, and Goose.
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But you cheered against Marquette when Wojo was here
You cheering for Justin Lewis to make it?
You diggin' #12 tonight. Some like chicken, some like feathers, hey?
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What are your thoughts on the coach who is not only talented, but can also relate to today's student athlete having the same amount of NCAA Tournament wins over the last 7 seasons as the guy who was untalented and couldn't relate to today's student athlete in his 7 seasons at Marquette? With the current coach spending 6 of those 7 seasons at a better program than Marquette?
Same question for Elon, Brew, and Goose.
If you can't see the obvious differences, you don't know ball, aina?
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If you can't see the obvious differences, you don't know ball, aina?
Gotta get to these Fondy dental conferences to really know ball.
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You diggin' #12 tonight. Some like chicken, some like feathers, hey?
So, are you pulling for Justin or no?
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Sure, deck is stacked against him major. More power to him if he can do it. Frankly, there have been more talented players who have fallen short.
So, as for ARod, you in or out, hey?
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Sure, deck is stacked against him major. More power to him if he can do it. Frankly, there have been more talented players who have fallen short.
So, as for ARod, you in or out, hey?
Out. I’m pulling for the Vikings
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Excellent article on Sam which gives a lot of flavor on why Sam is getting so many opportunities this year .
https://masslive.com/celtics/2022/11/sam-hauser-is-giving-celtics-another-surprise-bench-weapon-that-opponents-cant-solve.html
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Excellent article on Sam which gives a lot of flavor on why Sam is getting so many opportunities this year .
https://masslive.com/celtics/2022/11/sam-hauser-is-giving-celtics-another-surprise-bench-weapon-that-opponents-cant-solve.html
I wonder what would happen if the Celtics traded for Tyler Herro? Do you think Sam would demand a trade?
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then i wonder if the celtics traded for both herro and giannis, would horford, smart and hauser go too? maybe even jaylen? chit man, the pressure, so many possibilities to wonder about?
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then i wonder if the celtics traded for both herro and giannis, would horford, smart and hauser go too? maybe even jaylen? chit man, the pressure, so many possibilities to wonder about?
Yes.
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Chit, Petrocelli wood pop a gasket if da Vikes traded fore #12, aina?
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Bias
I do not care if Shaka lost every NCAA game prior to coming to MU. He will be judged by winning at MU in March by me. Based on 90% of the posters on here, they had little chance to play in March last season, and I will consider last year a bonus game in March. If Shaka does not win games in the NCAA I will be the first guy to bitch about that performance.
To be honest, my excitement over Shaka is mainly based off of my love MU basketball. IMO, if Shaka proves he cannot get the job done, I am not sure the job can ever get done. He has every tool to win, a good coaching resume and likeable guy. If that is not enough to get the job done, I'm throwing in the towel.
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What are your thoughts on the coach who is not only talented, but can also relate to today's student athlete having the same amount of NCAA Tournament wins over the last 7 seasons as the guy who was untalented and couldn't relate to today's student athlete in his 7 seasons at Marquette? With the current coach spending 6 of those 7 seasons at a better program than Marquette?
Same question for Elon, Brew, and Goose.
Here are my thoughts:
Shaka is 45, Wojo is 46. Shaka has won 294 D1 games with a winning % of .655. Wojo has won128 D1 games with a winning % of .574. Shaka’s NCAA tournament record is 5-7, Wojo’s is 0-2. Shaka also has won the CBI and NIT titles, giving him a 15-7 overall record in postseason play. Wojo made the quarterfinals of the NIT once, giving him an overall record of 2-3 in postseason play.
Bottom line, Shaka was 33 he took a mid major to the FF. When Steve was 33 he was clutching his wubbie and sitting next to Coach K. Shaka has major accomplishments that mitigate his failures. Wojo doesn’t.
I have zero doubts that Shaka will outperform Wojo’s tenure at MU. If you’re interested in a wager, name the amount.
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Here are my thoughts:
Shaka is 45, Wojo is 46. Shaka has won 294 D1 games with a winning % of .655. Wojo has won128 D1 games with a winning % of .574. Shaka’s NCAA tournament record is 5-7, Wojo’s is 0-2. Shaka also has won the CBI and NIT titles, giving him a 15-7 overall record in postseason play. Wojo made the quarterfinals of the NIT once, giving him an overall record of 2-3 in postseason play.
Bottom line, Shaka was 33 he took a mid major to the FF. When Steve was 33 he was clutching his wubbie and sitting next to Coach K. Shaka has major accomplishments that mitigate his failures. Wojo doesn’t.
I have zero doubts that Shaka will outperform Wojo’s tenure at MU. If you’re interested in a wager, name the amount.
Sweet. A guy who spent his first 6 years racking up wins in the CAA and A10 has a higher win percentage than a guy whose career was entirely in the Big East.
Glad Shaka had a good run a decade ago when his team was literally one of the last four teams into the Tournament.
CBI and NIT titles?! Sick!
Outperform in what sense? I'm just saying, we fired a guy because he had 0 NCAA Tournament wins in 7 years as our coach, to hire a guy who had 0 NCAA Tournament wins in his last 6 years while being at a better program.
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Chit, Petrocelli wood pop a gasket if da Vikes traded fore #12, aina?
No, I’d laugh my ass off at them
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then i wonder if the celtics traded for both herro and giannis, would horford, smart and hauser go too? maybe even jaylen? chit man, the pressure, so many possibilities to wonder about?
Well, since the Hausers didn’t want to play with Herro at Marquette, will he play with him in the NBA
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Sweet. A guy who spent his first 6 years racking up wins in the CAA and A10 has a higher win percentage than a guy whose career was entirely in the Big East.
Glad Shaka had a good run a decade ago when his team was literally one of the last four teams into the Tournament.
CBI and NIT titles?! Sick!
Outperform in what sense? I'm just saying, we fired a guy because he had 0 NCAA Tournament wins in 7 years as our coach, to hire a guy who had 0 NCAA Tournament wins in his last 6 years while being at a better program.
Outperform in any metric you want. Shaka will have a better winning % than your hero Wojo. And he’ll win an NCAA tournament game.
How much you want to bet, big shot?
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What are your thoughts on the coach who is not only talented, but can also relate to today's student athlete having the same amount of NCAA Tournament wins over the last 7 seasons as the guy who was untalented and couldn't relate to today's student athlete in his 7 seasons at Marquette? With the current coach spending 6 of those 7 seasons at a better program than Marquette?
Same question for Elon, Brew, and Goose.
Shaka was a slam dunk hire for Marquette. He was a bad fit at Texas. It happens.
I don’t judge him on what happens in March because it’s a crapshoot. His last two first round losses at VCU were overtime games. SFA made a 3-pointer they got fouled on with :03 left and made the FT to tie it up. Stuff happens.
Villanova, the gold standard of the Big East had a long stretch of failing to make the second weekend from ‘10-‘15.
Goose and Elon and crew are right, he was a great hire for Marquette as both a fit and coach
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Outperform in what sense? I'm just saying, we fired a guy because he had 0 NCAA Tournament wins in 7 years as our coach, to hire a guy who had 0 NCAA Tournament wins in his last 6 years while being at a better program.
Wojo was fired because the program slid after Hausergate and he refused to make the changes necessary that his bosses (rightly) insisted on. He would have kept his job despite the W/L trajectory. Instead, he got a life changing paid vacation. Wojo knew what he was doing.
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Sweet. A guy who spent his first 6 years racking up wins in the CAA and A10 has a higher win percentage than a guy whose career was entirely in the Big East.
Glad Shaka had a good run a decade ago when his team was literally one of the last four teams into the Tournament.
CBI and NIT titles?! Sick!
Outperform in what sense? I'm just saying, we fired a guy because he had 0 NCAA Tournament wins in 7 years as our coach, to hire a guy who had 0 NCAA Tournament wins in his last 6 years while being at a better program.
Shaka had a better conference winning percentage at Texas than Wojo did at Marquette, during a time period when the B12 was the unquestioned best basketball conference in the country. Thats including a second year in which he lost his top 3 scorers, top 4 rebounders, top 2 assist men and started basically all freshmen and sophomores. Outside of that he had a conference winning percentage more than 5 points higher than Wojo if you took away Wojo's rough first year.
Also, Abielene Christian upset aside, Texas was on a pronounced upswing.
18/19 season was an incredibly young team that lost 2 NBA players, got beat up in a brutal Big12, then won the NIT.
19/20 finished the season winning 5 of 6, including 2 top 25 upsets, and would have been favored against TTU in their B12 tourney opener.
20/21 lost 0 games to unranked opponents. 2 seconds away from avoiding an upset and meeting an 11 seed in the 2nd round with a S16 berth on the line. Recruiting class was a pair of top 40 studs.
Last 3 seasons in the B12, the RPI #1 conference, 28-25.
Wojo's best season culminated in lost 6 of 7. Then 2 disaster years.
Last 3 seasons in the BEast, a good conference but not the B12...27-27
Shaka lost 3 NCAA games at Texas by a total of 7 points. Wojo lost 2 NCAA games...by an average of 20 points.
Both had disappointing tenures, for different reasons, but Shaka's was unquestionably better and with more bright spots than Wojo.
I also agree with Lenny. Because watching last years team versus a Wojo team was night and day. There was an identity, there was a system, there was a plan.
Much like watching the Bears this year, I don't know what heights Shake/Eberflus attain, but I know without a doubt it will be better than Wojo/Nagy from team performance, fight, and appearance alone.
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Wags
Bias knows all of that to be true. He is simply being confrontational and feels he is challenging the "meat men". I will add, that if he does not already know that he probably should not be on a college basketball forum.
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What I do know is that moral victories go a long way in the NCAA Tournament. Like Texas fans surely feel better about their 0 NCAA Tournament wins in Shaka's tenure because they were close losses, I know I would feel a heck of a lot better about Marquette's late season slide last year had Marquette lost by 4 to UNC instead of 32.
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What I do know is that moral victories go a long way in the NCAA Tournament. Like Texas fans surely feel better about their 0 NCAA Tournament wins in Shaka's tenure because they were close losses, I know I would feel a heck of a lot better about Marquette's late season slide last year had Marquette lost by 4 to UNC instead of 32.
Do you honestly feel that the only metric that you can use to judge the value of a coach is NCAA tournament wins? There is no additional room for other factors?
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Do you honestly feel that the only metric that you can use to judge the value of a coach is NCAA tournament wins? There is no additional room for other factors?
He doesn't believe in metrics or analytics. He is an avowed "eye test" guy. To each their own.
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Bias
I do not care if Shaka lost every NCAA game prior to coming to MU. He will be judged by winning at MU in March by me. Based on 90% of the posters on here, they had little chance to play in March last season, and I will consider last year a bonus game in March. If Shaka does not win games in the NCAA I will be the first guy to bitch about that performance.
To be honest, my excitement over Shaka is mainly based off of my love MU basketball. IMO, if Shaka proves he cannot get the job done, I am not sure the job can ever get done. He has every tool to win, a good coaching resume and likeable guy. If that is not enough to get the job done, I'm throwing in the towel.
I've already seen a material difference since Coach Shaka took over. His game management is exponentially better. We actually play defense. We're a team and we don't play as much hero ball as we did under Coach Wojo.
Our guys deal with situations. There's an inherent calm in them. Yes, things get away from them, like Purdue, but the team handles itself very well and plays under control. Coach Shaka commands the respect of his team. You'll undoubtedly see players leave but I doubt you'll ever have such a breakdown as we had in Hausergate.
I hope Coach Wojo finds something and is really successful. But Coach Shaka is the man and I'm incredibly optimistic.
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So far it’s turning out that The Celtics are getting a heckuva bargain on the Sam signing for three years.
Wait 'til they draft Joey to make Sam happy and everything goes to sh!t
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Usually, threads on The Al get bogged down by the same old arguments about the Hausers.
So it's nice to see the Hauser thread on the Superbar turn into a debate about Shaka-vs-Wojo.
Which, of course, is about as silly a debate as one can get because Shaka actually has accomplished something as a head basketball coach.
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Joey contributed to Sparty win over Nova
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Wait 'til they draft Joey to make Sam happy and everything goes to sh!t
now that was LOL funny
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Sam continues to get steady minutes with Celts . Their team is doing very well .
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Sam continues to get steady minutes with Celts . Their team is doing very well .
Their team is the best in the league right now by a significant margin.
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Sparty‘s Malik Hall out at least 3 weeks — big opportunity for Joey.
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Welp, massive fail for Joey in his first opportunity to shine while being asked to do more due to Malik Hall's absence.
Last night vs Alabama: 9 pts on 1-for-6 shooting, 5 turnovers. Only 5x as many turnovers as baskets - not bad.
And this from the AP game story: Joey Hauser had several hard falls to the court and was just 1 of 6 shooting.
Can't make this stuff up!
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I didn't watch the game, but looking at the box score, Joey had a very nice game as Sparty beat Oregon: 18 points on 7/11 shooting (4/8 from 3), 10 reb, 3 assists and only 1 TO in 38 mins.
It has to be a little infuriating for Izzo and MSU fans to not know which Joey they'll get from one night to another, because "Good Joey" definitely can help them win games.
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Sam had another solid game last night . Has been a very consistent player in his role. Getting the minutes and opportunity .
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Another quality night for Sam . Helped the Celtics win with out Tatum.
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Sam is consistently performing well. Shooting 48.9% from 3 .
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Sam is consistently performing well. Shooting 48.9% from 3 .
Elite shooters shoot elitely.
And they can have NBA gigs for a long, long time.
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https://www.si.com/nba/2022/11/29/sam-hauser-boston-celtics-nba-biggest-surprise
he had an O-fer last night. SI Jinx.
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https://www.si.com/nba/2022/11/29/sam-hauser-boston-celtics-nba-biggest-surprise
he had an O-fer last night. SI Jinx.
Good article, thanks for posting.
Today's NBA puts a premium on one thing above all else ... and if a player excels at that one thing, he can make a lot of money and be in the league for a long time.
The stats showing Sam's "importance" are of course skewed by his relatively low time on the court, but he's definitely helping the Celtics with his shooting and his high basketball IQ. And I'm not especially surprised.
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https://ellieshirt.com/products/i-heart-joey-hauser-shirt/
For those of you who still miss him....
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https://ellieshirt.com/products/i-heart-joey-hauser-shirt/
For those of you who still miss him....
I found Christmas gifts for the meat eaters!
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The Lesser Letterman goes 3-for-12 as Sparty opens its Big Whatever season by losing at home to mighty Northwestern.
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In the MSU game against Brown today, Joey tops the 1000 point mark for his career.
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In the MSU game against Brown today, Joey tops the 1000 point mark for his career.
22 points in the win for Jowy
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Sam pace of making 3s slowed up the last few games on Celts road trip.
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Sam pace of making 3s slowed up the last few games on Celts road trip.
He's an excellent shooter. He's also human. And he's also only playing 11-12 minutes a game, which doesn't make it easy to stay in a groove.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/sam-hauser-talks-shooting-earning-233100068.html
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Sam contributed nicely to Celtics win over the Bucks to tonight
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Sam contributed nicely to Celtics win over the Bucks to tonight
He played 7 minutes and one of his two baskets was with 1.5 minutes left up 20....
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Sam contributed nicely to Celtics win over the Bucks to tonight
Which game were you watching, 9-9-9?
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He did hit a buzzer beater 3 at the end of the first quarter.
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Joey quietly logging Respectable good stats in the first third of the Spartans schedule .
14.1 PPG 7.1 Boards 2.3 assists
Shooting 88 percent from the stripe and 46.3 percent on threes.
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Joey quietly logging Respectable good stats in the first third of the Spartans schedule .
14.1 PPG 7.1 Boards 2.3 assists
Shooting 88 percent from the stripe and 46.3 percent on threes.
And still falling down a lot, so best of both worlds
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Nice game to help Sparty beat Wiscy. Two of my favorite things. Huzzah.
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Nice game to help Sparty beat Wiscy. Two of my favorite things. Huzzah.
Good for Joey. Was pulling for him last night. Both sides have long moved on.
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Hellofa playa, hey?
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Hellofa playa, hey?
Badgers abused him on defense, hey?
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Joey averaging 13.8 ppg 7.8 Boards 2.4 assists per game . Shooting 41.3 percent from 3 and 88.6 percent from the line
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Hellofa playa, hey?
4 years under Izzo to make him better than he was as a freshman.
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In Year 5.5 in college, Hauser the Younger is finally having a decent season under a Hall of Fame coach.
Glad he helped Sparty beat Madison.
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As one of the wealthy MU alums who paid Joey not to attend Wisconsin, this is exactly the result I'd hoped for.
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As one of the wealthy MU alums who paid Joey not to attend Wisconsin, this is exactly the result I'd hoped for.
;D ;D You probably never thought your investment would still be paying dividends in 2023! LOL
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Joey making a huge 3 with 2 min left and then Hepburn bricking a step back 3 a few possessions later was something that amused me greatly.
It sucks that he was unconscious against MU, but I would be my life savings that Hepburn will be nowhere near the 48% from 3 he is shooting by the end of March, but likely continues to shoot like he's Markus Howard. Far more likely he's more the guy who started the season 5 for 17 from 3 against mediocre competition and shot 34% from 3 last year in lower pressure scenarios, than the guy who was out of his mind for a month and shot 60% from 3 in December.
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Great game for Joey. Glad to see him beat Bucky, though I do find it funny he had 0 assists. I wonder if his teammates will write any letters.
But it all worked out in the end. MU got Shaka and O-Max is a helluva player, too.
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Good for Joey. Was pulling for him last night. Both sides have long moved on.
You wouldn't know that from scoop.
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Who?
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Joey Hoosier
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Jeronne Maymon.
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You wouldn't know that from scoop.
I’m still mad Shaka ran off future NBA player Jamal Cain
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I’m still mad Shaka ran off future NBA player Jamal Cain
I'm still mad that wojo miscoached a future NBA player for 4 years.
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I'm still mad that wojo miscoached a future NBA player for 4 years.
I’m still mad Buzz made Vander flush and that’s why he went pro
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I think Joey would flourish in Shaka's offense. Alternating between the Oso role and the OMax role. I think he would be a disaster defensively with the switching and having to defend 1 through 5.
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I think Joey would flourish in Shaka's offense. Alternating between the Oso role and the OMax role. I think he would be a disaster defensively with the switching and having to defend 1 through 5.
I haven’t watched him lately, but feel he’d play a similar role to Joplin. I don’t think Joey is as quick and athletic as OMax or as long as Oso.
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I think Joey would flourish in Shaka's offense. Alternating between the Oso role and the OMax role. I think he would be a disaster defensively with the switching and having to defend 1 through 5.
He's turnover-prone, definitely not an Oso-level passer, robotic and not a very good offensive rebounder. But he does shoot better than either of them, so I agree with cheebs that Joey would have been more of a Joplin-like spot-up shooter in our offense. And yes, he's still a frightfully bad defensive player, although a decent defensive rebounder.
I'd take either O-Max or Oso over him, and it's really not very close. Would I take this season's Joey over this season's Joplin? Perhaps.
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I’m still mad Buzz made Vander flush and that’s why he went pro
I’m still mad Tom Crean wrote love letters to underage boys and could wipe his own a$$ with his ties.
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I’m still mad Shaka ran off future NBA player Jamal Cain
Future NBA record holder, Jamal Cain (as part of the 40-40 FT made)
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In Year 5.5 in college, Hauser the Younger is finally having a decent season under a Hall of Fame coach.
Glad he helped Sparty beat Madison.
this is definitionally pathetic lol
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this is definitionally pathetic lol
You know what’s definitionally pathetic? Joey was an absolute statue down the stretch tonight. Illini shot over him, drove past him, jumped over him, and left him sucking air.
Offensively, he mostly stood at the 3-point line watching Hoggard take all the shots.
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You know what’s definitionally pathetic? Joey was an absolute statue down the stretch tonight. Illini shot over him, drove past him, jumped over him, and left him sucking air.
Offensively, he mostly stood at the 3-point line watching Hoggard take all the shots.
my god man pull yourself together
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my god man pull yourself together
I believe that's what Izzo said to him, yes.
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I believe that's what Izzo said to him, yes.
why do you let them have this power over you
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why do you let them have this power over you
Hard to believe Tom Izzo put a 23 year-old in position to fail
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Hard to believe Tom Izzo put a 23 year-old in position to fail
Not sure if you saw the game last night, Unk, but it had a play you'd appreciate as Illinois rallied to win. Illinois missed a shot and Joey thought he had Dain Dainja boxed out, but Dainja outmuscled Joey, leapt over him, Joey went stumbling like a punch-drunk pug, and Dainja made the layup to put Illinois up 5 with about 4 minutes left.
Joey ended up with 11 (4-of-11) and 11. He missed all three 3s he took as MSU amazingly went the entire game without hitting a 3. And Sparty only had 4 assists all game -- 4! -- as the offense mostly consisted of Hoggard and Walker going 1-on-1.
There were a few times Joey had that "Damn it, Markus" look on his face as he stood outside the arc and watched the chuckers refuse to give him the rock. Why doesn't Izzo rein them in?
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He had a double double. Sparty lost a conference road game. 0-for shooting 3's. Izzo now has a plan for. practice for the next couple of days. More worried about Malik Hall than Joey.
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He had a double double. Sparty lost a conference road game. 0-for shooting 3's. Izzo now has a plan for. practice for the next couple of days. More worried about Malik Hall than Joey.
Yeah, did they ever say what Hall's injury was -- reinjuring the same foot maybe? He was just starting to round back into form, so that sucks.
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Not sure if you saw the game last night, Unk, but it had a play you'd appreciate as Illinois rallied to win. Illinois missed a shot and Joey thought he had Dain Dainja boxed out, but Dainja outmuscled Joey, leapt over him, Joey went stumbling like a punch-drunk pug, and Dainja made the layup to put Illinois up 5 with about 4 minutes left.
Joey ended up with 11 (4-of-11) and 11. He missed all three 3s he took as MSU amazingly went the entire game without hitting a 3. And Sparty only had 4 assists all game -- 4! -- as the offense mostly consisted of Hoggard and Walker going 1-on-1.
There were a few times Joey had that "Damn it, Markus" look on his face as he stood outside the arc and watched the chuckers refuse to give him the rock. Why doesn't Izzo rein them in?
Joey is a coach killer
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Sam playing time and production has been Down for several weeks .
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Joey was used mostly as a decoy/court-spacer today vs. Purdue. Stood outside the arc so his man, usually Caleb Furst, had to stay close. He was 1-of-4 from 3 and finished with 10 pts, 5 reb, 1 asst, 2 TO in 38 minutes. He mostly guarded Furst, an unathletic non-scorer.
Joey did make a nice driving And-1 that temporarily put Sparty ahead with about 5 minutes left.
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Joey had a solid game against Rutgers. Continues his strong shooting this season.
Sam is mired in a deep slump and now out of the rotation . Not a great situation . Luckily has a guaranteed contract
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/sam-hausers-shooting-slump-may-force-stevens-hand-prior-deadline?amp
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https://twitter.com/iubarstool/status/1617256985786986497?s=46&t=isIp49p9BNNdXlyt1ngaQw
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https://twitter.com/iubarstool/status/1617256985786986497?s=46&t=isIp49p9BNNdXlyt1ngaQw
Dang, looks like Joey's hand almost got above 10 feet there. Impressive!
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https://twitter.com/iubarstool/status/1617256985786986497?s=46&t=isIp49p9BNNdXlyt1ngaQw
Well, he had to rotate over to help
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day zha view, aina?
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https://twitter.com/iubarstool/status/1617256985786986497?s=46&t=isIp49p9BNNdXlyt1ngaQw
Pass from former Shaka recruit, Tamar Bates.
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Joey disappeared during the 8 1/2 minute stretch when IU went from down 2 to up 15:
2 missed layups, 1 turnover, 1 rebound, 2 made FTs.
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Sunday, he was the best player on an out-manned team. They need Malik Hall back. They need everybody to get healthy. Without Joey, it would have been a whuppin a lot sooner.
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Sunday, he was the best player on an out-manned team. They need Malik Hall back. They need everybody to get healthy. Without Joey, it would have been a whuppin a lot sooner.
Fair enough. Thanks for your perspective.
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Joey disappeared during the 8 1/2 minute stretch when IU went from down 2 to up 15:
2 missed layups, 1 turnover, 1 rebound, 2 made FTs.
First time I watched an entire MSU game this year. I agree with Tower that he was the least of their problems.
If Kolek was at PG for MSU, Joey would have had 30 points. Wide open for 3s all game. Alas, no one to pass him the ball.
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First time I watched an entire MSU game this year. I agree with Tower that he was the least of their problems.
If Kolek was at PG for MSU, Joey would have had 30 points. Wide open for 3s all game. Alas, no one to pass him the ball.
Seems he keeps finding himself in that predicament.
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Seems he keeps finding himself in that predicament.
That’s funny.
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First time I watched an entire MSU game this year. I agree with Tower that he was the least of their problems.
If Kolek was at PG for MSU, Joey would have had 30 points. Wide open for 3s all game. Alas, no one to pass him the ball.
Guys like him need hall of fame coaches to maximize their talent
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Guys like him need hall of fame coaches to maximize their talent
I've always played best under HoF coaches
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Sam, who had seen his playing time decrease substantially during a month-long shooting slump (.294 from 3), finally saw the ball go through the net more consistently last night. He played 19 minutes and scored 13 points, most coming before garbage time when the game was still close. He was 3-for-6 from 3. The Celtics had their 9-game winning streak snapped by Orlando, a bad team that weirdly is 3-1 against the team with the NBA's best record.
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Sam, who had seen his playing time decrease substantially during a month-long shooting slump (.294 from 3), finally saw the ball go through the net more consistently last night. He played 19 minutes and scored 13 points, most coming before garbage time when the game was still close. He was 3-for-6 from 3. The Celtics had their 9-game winning streak snapped by Orlando, a bad team that weirdly is 3-1 against the team with the NBA's best record.
Good to see Sam take advantage of the opportunity .
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Sam, who had seen his playing time decrease substantially during a month-long shooting slump (.294 from 3), finally saw the ball go through the net more consistently last night. He played 19 minutes and scored 13 points, most coming before garbage time when the game was still close. He was 3-for-6 from 3. The Celtics had their 9-game winning streak snapped by Orlando, a bad team that weirdly is 3-1 against the team with the NBA's best record.
Kind of like when the raptors (who finished 21-61) beat the 72-10 bulls in 95-96.
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Kind of like when the raptors (who finished 21-61) beat the 72-10 bulls in 95-96.
Yep. Crazy things happen in a long season ... although the same crazy thing doesn't usually keep happening to the same team!
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Sam had an 0-6 in 25 minutes against the Heat . I wonder if that shoulder he hurt last year is giving him trouble
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Sam had an 0-6 in 25 minutes against the Heat . I wonder if that shoulder he hurt last year is giving him trouble
Too many letters?
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Writers cramp affected his shooting??? 8-)
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Sam went back to restricted minutes . However he performed a bit better shooting 2-4 from 3 against the Knicks
Joey contributed to a Spartan win over The Hawkeyes
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Piece about Joey on FS1 prior to the Sparty Iowa game. Fluff, but nice. In conjunction with an article on mlive where Izzo offers to meet on a street corner to fight the people on social media savaging his players. The implication being Sissoko and Joey.
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Piece about Joey on FS1 prior to the Sparty Iowa game. Fluff, but nice. In conjunction with an article on mlive where Izzo offers to meet on a street corner to fight the people on social media savaging his players. The implication being Sissoko and Joey.
Some good quotes in this article
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2023/01/overheard-in-the-michigan-state-locker-room-an-ugly-win-vs-iowa-guarding-with-a-fishnet.html?outputType=amp
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Sam 5 minutes no shots in Celts win over Lakers Saturday night
Joey had a lackluster game against Purdue .
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Piece about Joey on FS1 prior to the Sparty Iowa game. Fluff, but nice. In conjunction with an article on mlive where Izzo offers to meet on a street corner to fight the people on social media savaging his players. The implication being Sissoko and Joey.
MU82 ready to brawl.
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MU82 ready to brawl.
Izzo's one of the few I have both a youth and quickness advantage over.
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Sam went 8-5-1 in 12 minutes in the Celtics big win over Nets . Shot 3-7 (2-6 from 3)
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https://twitter.com/mcnicholasbilly/status/1621953857185107969?s=46&t=bbW72mPQ68PWaAFEyz6cTQ
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a part. Not apart. And while true, I am sure it is just coincidence.
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Joey with a modest game today
Sam with 1 minute and nothing to show for it in the Celtics loss to the Suns.
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Joey with a modest game today
Sam with 1 minute and nothing to show for it in the Celtics loss to the Suns.
https://twitter.com/_jacobmjones/status/1621945943107977216?s=46&t=bbW72mPQ68PWaAFEyz6cTQ
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Did Joey write a letter to Emoni urging him to not come to MSU?
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Revenge of Tyler Herro.
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Sammy gets the start tonight, plays 31 minutes 5/10 from filed including 5/9 from 3 point land for 15 points in a 12 point win over pistons
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Sammy gets the start tonight, plays 31 minutes 5/10 from filed including 5/9 from 3 point land for 15 points in a 12 point win over pistons
That confidence should help his cause going forward
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Outstanding response by Sam after a shooting slump knocked him out of the Celtics' rotation. The absences of Jaylen Brown (illness) and Marcus Smart (ankle) gave him the opportunity, and Sam made the most of it.
''It kind of took me by surprise,'' he told reporters afterward. ''I thought they would maybe plug someone else in to start. They called my number and I was ready for it. It was my first start ever in the NBA, and it was a cool moment.''
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Joey had an efficient 20 point game in The Spartans home win over the Terps yesterday
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sammy has another solid game 5/6 fg including 4/4 from 3 pt arc for 14 pts in 20 minutes
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sammy has another solid game 5/6 fg including 4/4 from 3 pt arc for 14 pts in 20 minutes
That will help his cause for sure.
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Friendly fire -- in the form of Jayson Tatum's elbow last night -- led to facial fractures for Jaylen Brown. That probably means more playing time for Sam, who apparently has snapped out of his slump just in time for the Celtics.
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Friendly fire -- in the form of Jayson Tatum's elbow last night -- led to facial fractures for Jaylen Brown. That probably means more playing time for Sam, who apparently has snapped out of his slump just in time for the Celtics.
Helps the Bucks as the Celtics defense will be demonstrably worse
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Sam with another start for the Celts . Went 12 3 and 3 in 31 minutes in 4-9 shooting from 3
3 solid games in a row shooting
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Hellofa playa, hey?
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Hellofa playa, hey?
Trade his azz
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Think Coach Mazula has had a letter slipped under his door with the squad’s signatures letting Coach know Sam should continue to get his minutes even with Mike Muscala on the roster?
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Sam with another start . Had 20 points in 31 minutes . 6-11 from 3
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Great day for both, really cool to see.
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Sam with another start . Had 20 points in 31 minutes . 6-11 from 3
Put Sam on my fanduel roster and came thru nicely for a$4600 salary slot
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Sam with another start versus Bucks. Makes game tying 3 point shot , heading to Over Time
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Great shot by Sam.
Philosophically, Budenholzer doesn't foul up 3. Lots of NBA coaches don't.
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Sam finished up 15-9-2 . Seems to be making most of his opportunity as a starter .
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Great shot by Sam.
Philosophically, Budenholzer doesn't foul up 3. Lots of NBA coaches don't.
It was well defended too.
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Hellofa playa, aina?
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Hellofa playa, aina?
Peddle his azz
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Maybee two da Bucks, hey?
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Maybee two da Bucks, hey?
No, he can’t guard a stump
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Needer kan Steph, aina?
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Needer kan Steph, aina?
Well, they are practically twins, Steph and Sam.
In a recent interview, Steph said he hopes that one day he'll be able to match Sam Hauser's career accomplishments.
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Needer kan Steph, aina?
When Sam is an MVP, I’ll say the comparison is apt.
Good news is, someone said Damarcis Ownings, the new commit, shoots like Steph. Hope he’s not a letter writer like Sam, though
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https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/02/what-celtics-sam-hauser-said-of-game-tying-3-pointer-against-bucks-to-force-overtime.html?outputType=amp
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38 year old Joey getting big boyed by Michigan’s bigs. Looks like he’s going to cry on some of these offensive rebounds he’s giving up.
Then waves players around after and decides to try to dribble himself. Turnover. Izzo calls timeout to chew him out. Starts flailing his arms around and thought he might’ve literally broken down into tears.
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38 year old Joey getting big boyed by Michigan’s bigs. Looks like he’s going to cry on some of these offensive rebounds he’s giving up.
Then waves players around after and decides to try to dribble himself. Turnover. Izzo calls timeout to chew him out. Starts flailing his arms around and thought he might’ve literally broken down into tears.
https://twitter.com/spartantakes/status/1627144205658210306?s=46&t=sNnkp6aMzcVgRwvgL-P8Hw
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https://twitter.com/realdrewv/status/1627146245201358850?s=46&t=sNnkp6aMzcVgRwvgL-P8Hw
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https://twitter.com/fama_d31/status/1627145934424403968?s=46&t=sNnkp6aMzcVgRwvgL-P8Hw
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https://twitter.com/rctwining/status/1627145603154165769?s=46&t=sNnkp6aMzcVgRwvgL-P8Hw
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Again tonight, the best player in a losing effort. Some frustrated, irrational takes.
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Again tonight, the best player in a losing effort. Some frustrated, irrational takes.
He was worse than a traffic cone defensively. A traffic cone wouldn’t softly foul someone after it got bullied for an offensive rebound.
But at least Joey likes playing “the right way” and wanted to play for a winner. He turned that winner into a loser.
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Again tonight, the best player in a losing effort. Some frustrated, irrational takes.
Miscast at MSU. Would be fine off the bench but can’t defend at all and can’t be a guy to carry an elite team. Would be a fantastic player at Central Michigan or UWM. At Michigan State trying to be a top player for a Hall of Fame coach? Delusional
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Again tonight, the best player in a losing effort. Some frustrated, irrational takes.
Predictable.
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Miscast at MSU. Would be fine off the bench but can’t defend at all and can’t be a guy to carry an elite team. Would be a fantastic player at Central Michigan or UWM. At Michigan State trying to be a top player for a Hall of Fame coach? Delusional
I think he’d be a good 2nd on a very good MSU team or 3rd option on a great MSU team. Like you said, he’s just not good enough to carry an elite team. But people here crowing that he “turned a winner into a loser” or think he’s the problem arent even paying attention and just crowing an agenda.
His last 3 games he’s averaged 21 and 5 on 54/57/95 splits. He now leads MSU in scoring, rebounding, and both shooting percentages. The rest of that roster stinking out loud is the problem
I don’t miss Joey one bit and haven’t since he left, but give me a break with the baseless bashing.
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Agreed. Yes, the Wolverines were getting the ball to Tschetter for him to attack Joey off the dribble. Yes, he really isn't cut out to be the primary scorer on a good team. This is not one of Izzo's good teams.
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Joey has been playing college ball since 2018, still doesn’t know it, aina?
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I think he’d be a good 2nd on a very good MSU team or 3rd option on a great MSU team. Like you said, he’s just not good enough to carry an elite team. But people here crowing that he “turned a winner into a loser” or think he’s the problem arent even paying attention and just crowing an agenda.
His last 3 games he’s averaged 21 and 5 on 54/57/95 splits. He now leads MSU in scoring, rebounding, and both shooting percentages. The rest of that roster stinking out loud is the problem
I don’t miss Joey one bit and haven’t since he left, but give me a break with the baseless bashing.
He hasn’t turned Michigan State into a mediocre team, the Hall of Fame coach has.
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Agreed. Yes, the Wolverines were getting the ball to Tschetter for him to attack Joey off the dribble. Yes, he really isn't cut out to be the primary scorer on a good team. This is not one of Izzo's good teams.
Michigan fans haven’t been kind to Tschetter this season
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I took a walk this afternoon decked out in MU gear. Going the other way was a gentleman decked out in Sparty gear.
"Marquette, huh. Thanks a helluva lot for Hauser"
He then was unable to complete a sentence for about 20 seconds. Apoplectic.
I smiled placidly and let him rant. When he took a breath, I explained that MSU is my favorite Big 10 team, that Joey isn't the biggest MSU problem, that Joey didn't play great d at MU but I thought Izzo could get more out of him. I said I thought Sparty needed a better center and PG play. He agreed with that.
He asked if the rumors about the transfer were true. I laughed and asked which one. I said he probably had better ones than I did and the bottom line was the Hausers did not want to play for Wojo.
Wearing Marquette gear on this side of the lake, I get variations of this frequently. Not once have I heard a Spartan fan praise Joey. Sometimes it is so harsh I find myself defending Joey.
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I took a walk this afternoon decked out in MU gear. Going the other way was a gentleman decked out in Sparty gear.
"Marquette, huh. Thanks a helluva lot for Hauser"
He then was unable to complete a sentence for about 20 seconds. Apoplectic.
I smiled placidly and let him rant. When he took a breath, I explained that MSU is my favorite Big 10 team, that Joey isn't the biggest MSU problem, that Joey didn't play great d at MU but I thought Izzo could get more out of him. I said I thought Sparty needed a better center and PG play. He agreed with that.
He asked if the rumors about the transfer were true. I laughed and asked which one. I said he probably had better ones than I did and the bottom line was the Hausers did not want to play for Wojo.
Wearing Marquette gear on this side of the lake, I get variations of this frequently. Not once have I heard a Spartan fan praise Joey. Sometimes it is so harsh I find myself defending Joey.
They just don’t know ball
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Not once have I heard a Spartan fan praise Joey. Sometimes it is so harsh I find myself defending Joey.
Your defense is almost surely better than Joey's is.
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Hey-o
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I took a walk this afternoon decked out in MU gear. Going the other way was a gentleman decked out in Sparty gear.
"Marquette, huh. Thanks a helluva lot for Hauser"
He then was unable to complete a sentence for about 20 seconds. Apoplectic.
I smiled placidly and let him rant. When he took a breath, I explained that MSU is my favorite Big 10 team, that Joey isn't the biggest MSU problem, that Joey didn't play great d at MU but I thought Izzo could get more out of him. I said I thought Sparty needed a better center and PG play. He agreed with that.
He asked if the rumors about the transfer were true. I laughed and asked which one. I said he probably had better ones than I did and the bottom line was the Hausers did not want to play for Wojo.
Wearing Marquette gear on this side of the lake, I get variations of this frequently. Not once have I heard a Spartan fan praise Joey. Sometimes it is so harsh I find myself defending Joey.
Sometimes people need to step back and understand these are kids . They are playing as hard as they can to the best of their ability. Big Time College Sports is unforgiving .
Overall Joey has had a solid season and wish him the best of luck in the few remaining games he has in his college career .
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Wearing Marquette gear on this side of the lake, I get variations of this frequently. Not once have I heard a Spartan fan praise Joey. Sometimes it is so harsh I find myself defending Joey.
I mean that’s not at all surprising. He’s the *best* player on a very disappointing and underperforming team. Plenty of people here used to get pissed and rage at Markus for the teams struggles. Add to that he’s slow and comparatively unathletic and prone to goofy expressions. And usually the best player on an MSU team is a lottery pick or strong NBA prospect. He’s neither. He’s really the perfect scapegoat
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I mean that’s not at all surprising. He’s the *best* player on a very disappointing and underperforming team. Plenty of people here used to get pissed and rage at Markus for the teams struggles. Add to that he’s slow and comparatively unathletic and prone to goofy expressions. And usually the best player on an MSU team is a lottery pick or strong NBA prospect. He’s neither. He’s really the perfect scapegoat
Agree - he’s playing good ball this year.
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Sometimes people need to step back and understand these are kids . They are playing as hard as they can to the best of their ability.
OK, 9-9-9, I hear ya. But does that apply to Myles Powell and Kelly Tripucka, too? Or are Marquette fans allowed to dislike them? Do we have to admire Brad Davison because he played as hard as he could to the best of his ability?
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Being told I had to like Davison would be like a punch to the groin.
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Being told I had to like Davison would be like a punch to the groin.
Nice
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OK, 9-9-9, I hear ya. But does that apply to Myles Powell and Kelly Tripucka, too? Or are Marquette fans allowed to dislike them? Do we have to admire Brad Davison because he played as hard as he could to the best of his ability?
Plus, they are not “kids”. Kids are like elementary school age. They are young men, heck Joey Hauser is the same age as Ja Morant, Luka Doncic and many others.
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Agree - he’s playing good ball this year.
Joey is not playing good ball this year.
Joey is an adult.
Joe Hauser will be working for Northwestern Mutual eventually, probably.
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Joey is not playing good ball this year.
Joey is an adult.
Joe Hauser will be working for Northwestern Mutual eventually, probably.
Well at least you got 1 out of 3 right.
If you truly think he’s gonna be in everyday insurance sales due to lack of opportunity to play professionally, you’re as clueless as thinking a guy averaging a very efficient 14/7 in a high major conference, on a team averaging under 70 a game mind you, is not playing “good”. No metrics back that up at all.
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Well at least you got 1 out of 3 right.
If you truly think he’s gonna be in everyday insurance sales due to lack of opportunity to play professionally, you’re as clueless as thinking a guy averaging a very efficient 14/7 in a high major conference, on a team averaging under 70 a game mind you, is not playing “good”. No metrics back that up at all.
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2023/02/confident-and-aggressive-joey-hauser-takes-turn-as-michigan-states-go-to-scorer.html?outputType=amp
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Well at least you got 1 out of 3 right.
If you truly think he’s gonna be in everyday insurance sales due to lack of opportunity to play professionally, you’re as clueless as thinking a guy averaging a very efficient 14/7 in a high major conference, on a team averaging under 70 a game mind you, is not playing “good”. No metrics back that up at all.
The eye test says otherwise, aina?
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The eye test says otherwise, aina?
No sour grapes on my part. He’s playing well this season on a flawed team.
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No sour grapes on my part. He’s playing well this season on a flawed team.
The ball knows flaws.
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Sam with some good PR in The Steven’s Point Journal
https://www.stevenspointjournal.com/story/sports/nba/2023/02/17/sam-hauser-lives-out-nba-dream-as-starter-for-boston-celtics/69907816007/
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Sam with some good PR in The Steven’s Point Journal
https://www.stevenspointjournal.com/story/sports/nba/2023/02/17/sam-hauser-lives-out-nba-dream-as-starter-for-boston-celtics/69907816007/
79% of Stevens Point residents have a 1st grade education
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79% of Stevens Point residents have a 1st grade education
Because of that numb skull Evers, the Teacher Unions and their “requirements”
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Sam back to his role off the bench had a solid effort , making all three of his attempts , 8 points in 13 minutes ,in the Celtics win Thursday night .
Also , Joey made some contributions with 10 and 8 in Spartans win over IU Tuesday. That victory definitely helps MU’s Cause.
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The ball knows flaws.
Another rough game for Joey…
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... in a losing effort.
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... in a losing effort.
Which should be utterly irrelevant to his performance or perception. They went to OT because Iowa hit 5, FIVE, triples in the final 40 seconds. MSU only turned it over once in that time and missed a single FT, neither of those were Joey and he didn’t lose his man for open triples.
18/5/4 on 6/9 (4/4) with 1 TO and no foul trouble is a brilliantly efficient offensive game. But idiot Spartan fans will likely still blame him. Not Walker who vanished in OT or Hoggard who was a sloppy mess.
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I was watching and rooting for Sparty. You are too smart to play asian carp on that easy chum.
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https://twitter.com/omarcitoxo/status/1629563775392309248?s=46&t=XgOYU8P_kCbS0ve8pQFBEA
https://twitter.com/omarcitoxo/status/1629564156012826624?s=46&t=XgOYU8P_kCbS0ve8pQFBEA
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https://twitter.com/omarcitoxo/status/1629563775392309248?s=46&t=XgOYU8P_kCbS0ve8pQFBEA
https://twitter.com/omarcitoxo/status/1629564156012826624?s=46&t=XgOYU8P_kCbS0ve8pQFBEA
https://twitter.com/nickandreatr/status/1629552797111709702?s=46&t=YaVHEVTbmEDVPfxuYdBdcQ
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https://twitter.com/nickandreatr/status/1629552797111709702?s=46&t=YaVHEVTbmEDVPfxuYdBdcQ
I hope so. Playing hungry would be difficult
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I hope so. Playing hungry would be difficult
Go back to the drawing board after that one buddy
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Joey had a good game in a losing effort.
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Sam got one minute in The Celts Big Game against 76ers
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Joey with another good game
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Sam with 6 points in 8 minutes in Celts Win
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Sam 6 3 and 2 and 2of 3 from 3 in 17 minutes in Celts loss to Nets
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Sam 6 3 and 2 and 2of 3 from 3 in 17 minutes in Celts loss to Nets
So he contributed to perhaps the biggest choke job in NBA history? Must’ve thought it was February in Milwaukee.
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Joey with another solid game
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Joey with another solid game
Joey finished the regular season 14.2 7 and 1.9 ,45.9% from 3 and 85.9% from line. Spartans were 19-11.
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Hellova playa, aina?
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Hellova playa, aina?
Never a conference champ. Pretty sad for a 6-year career with a Hall of Fame coach
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MSU already put their order in for Joey Hauser bobblehead night.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/06/98/c4/0698c4333485233cb7975ffb62c4684e.jpg)
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Considering Marquette’s rapid ascent in Shaka’s second season, I think it’s obvious who the real problem was. And it wasn’t Sam, Joey, or Markus.
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Considering Marquette’s rapid ascent in Shaka’s second season, I think it’s obvious who the real problem was. And it wasn’t Sam, Joey, or Markus.
Greg Elliott.
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Greg Elliott.
I mean, Kolek did pretty blatantly call out him and Morsell in his press availability the other day for their lack of leadership. But that wasn’t who I was referring to.
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I mean, Kolek did pretty blatantly call out him and Morsell in his press availability the other day for their lack of leadership. But that wasn’t who I was referring to.
Theo John
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Theo John
Well, he *did* tell a Marquette fan to “STFU” on Twitter, but no, not him either.
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Well, he *did* tell a Marquette fan to “STFU” on Twitter, but no, not him either.
Mandy Johnson
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Considering Marquette’s rapid ascent in Shaka’s second season, I think it’s obvious who the real problem was. And it wasn’t Sam, Joey, or Markus.
Considering Michigan State's rapid descent these last 3 seasons -- Izzo's worst stretch in a quarter-century -- I think it's obvious who the real problem was.
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Considering Michigan State's rapid descent these last 3 seasons -- Izzo's worst stretch in a quarter-century -- I think it's obvious who the real problem was.
Drop The Microphone.
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Well, he *did* tell a Marquette fan to “STFU” on Twitter, but no, not him either.
Stan Johnson.
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These are all fine guesses, but I was actually referring to Jake Presutti.
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Sam 32 minutes 11 points yesterday in Celtics win
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Joey with a decent game statistically in a tournament loss to the Buckeyes.
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Joey with a decent game statistically in a tournament loss to the Buckeyes.
https://twitter.com/armentro1landon/status/1634308894892621825?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
https://twitter.com/prestonwats/status/1634306200048218114?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Those sparty tweeters don't know ball.
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Those sparty tweeters don't know ball.
I know. It’s funny how some fanbases really go after players on social media and then some are largely positive.
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I know. It’s funny how some fanbases really go after players on social media and then some are largely positive.
You should write a letter.
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You should write a letter.
I’m not good enough a leader to do that
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15-6-2 today. Solid.
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Joey with a decent game statistically in a tournament loss to the Buckeyes.
Joey has had a very good year.
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Joey has had a very good year.
Team hasn’t. Lacks leadership
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Joey has had a very good year.
Joey's numbers are fine. The team has underachieved. Injuries, youth, etc.
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Joey's numbers are fine. The team has underachieved. Injuries, youth, etc.
Don't share the ball
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BUMP!
We know who 5$beer holder, NLW, Farley, and any dentist will be rooting for if we play MSU in the second round.
Jk… but seriously. This does play into whole “selection committee likes stories” theory
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BUMP!
We know who 5$beer holder, NLW, Farley, and any dentist will be rooting for if we play MSU in the second round.
Jk… but seriously. This does play into whole “selection committee likes stories” theory
I would love it if this played out . Omax guarding Joey….
Shaka could beat Izzo ….
Tower any thoughts ?
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Go, Marquette!
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BUMP!
We know who 5$beer holder, NLW, Farley, and any dentist will be rooting for if we play MSU in the second round.
Jk… but seriously. This does play into whole “selection committee likes stories” theory
Wtf are you talking about. My disdain for this thread comes from a "we (should be) 1,000x better than this pathetic schadenfreude crap" place. But I guess you're not.
I hope we beat the brakes off Hauser and MSU should we get matched up.
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Sam had 5 points in 19 minutew in the celts two point loss to The Rockets Monday. Went 1-6 from 3
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Joey with 17 and 8 in The Spartans win today.
Sunday will be a fun game .
Sam back to minuscule playing time on Wednesday.
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Sam with 6 2 and 3 I’llm The Celts loss at The Jazz
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Joey with 14 and 10 1/3 from 3 against MU.
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/gRkFfZqJv5L8I/giphy.gif)
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Joey with 14 and 10 1/3 from 3 against MU.
When it counts, the nickname "vanilla soft-serve" proves to be the latest in a decades-long drought of funny comments.
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Sam with two points in 3 minutes in The Celts big win yesterday
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Now that Joey is done, can we retire this thread?
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We can mercifully lock this now.
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Joey with 18 points 6 rebounds . 4 of 9 from 3
Sam was in attendance
Joey looking forward to potential G League Combine invite .
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Joey let me down one last time.
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Joey let me down one last time.
On that note, I think this thread can be retired.
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On that note, I think this thread can be retired.
Please!
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Sam was at Joey’s game last night with his parents. Afterwards, the family wrote a letter to tournament officials
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On that note, I think this thread can be retired.
It would probably be fine with everybody, including me, if this thread is retired.
Of course, nobody, including you, is required to click on the thread. You can retire this thread -- or any other -- for yourself forever by simply never clicking on it again for the rest of your life.
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This thread can't be retired--how are we going to follow Joey's path to the NBA???
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Sam was at Joey’s game last night with his parents. Afterwards, the family wrote a letter to tournament officials
Priceless!
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It would probably be fine with everybody, including me, if this thread is retired.
Of course, nobody, including you, is required to click on the thread. You can retire this thread -- or any other -- for yourself forever by simply never clicking on it again for the rest of your life.
I 100% agree. I've never bashed or criticized this thread. IMHO it has run its course but I'm not calling for it to be locked.
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This thread can't be retired--how are we going to follow Joey's path to the NBA???
I actually believe that Joey does have a path to the NBA. He's 6-9, a decent defensive rebounder, and obviously most importantly an elite shooter -- .461 from 3 in his final season, when he averaged 5 attempts/game. He would have to be very lucky to find a team that could absorb his long list of shortcomings.
But hey, Novak couldn't play a lick of D and he had a 10-year career, all because of one skill.
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I'm looking forward to how long Herman can keep it alive. Heck, that he is posting at all is a medical miracle.
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I actually believe that Joey does have a path to the NBA. He's 6-9, a decent defensive rebounder, and obviously most importantly an elite shooter -- .461 from 3 in his final season, when he averaged 5 attempts/game. He would have to be very lucky to find a team that could absorb his long list of shortcomings.
But hey, Novak couldn't play a lick of D and he had a 10-year career, all because of one skill.
I don't disagree, but it's a different league from when Novak entered. Frankly I'm surprised Sam has stuck, though he always made up for his lack of lateral quickness with his mind. Used angles very well defensively.
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I don't disagree, but it's a different league from when Novak entered. Frankly I'm surprised Sam has stuck, though he always made up for his lack of lateral quickness with his mind. Used angles very well defensively.
That’s why I think Joey could make it. He falls down at good angles to play defense
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Sam was at Joey’s game last night with his parents. Afterwards, the family wrote a letter to tournament officials
Sam’s quitting on the Celtics? I blame Markus.
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I don't disagree, but it's a different league from when Novak entered. Frankly I'm surprised Sam has stuck, though he always made up for his lack of lateral quickness with his mind. Used angles very well defensively.
It is a different league -- one that values 3-point shooting even more now.
But yes, defensively, Sam is Gary Payton and Bill Russell combined compared to Joey. It will be interesting to see if that scares away all 30 teams.
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Sam’s quitting on the Celtics? I blame Markus.
In an odd twist, Sam wrote a letter to Izzo blaming Spartan players for missing shots since Joey didn’t have any assists. Chaos in East Lansing
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Sam 24 minutes 9 5 and 1 on 3/4 from 3 point land in Celts demolition of Pacers Friday
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Sam got another start tonight for The Celts . Played 28 minutes and went 6 4 and 2 in the big win over The Spurs
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Sam 5 1 and 2 in 9 minutes in The Celts loss to The Wizards
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Can we get game by game updates on actual Marquette graduates?
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Can we get game by game updates on actual Marquette graduates?
There's a Marquette NBA thread on The Al board.
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Sam 3 2 and 0 in 12 minutes innCelts pounding of Bucks.
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Sam had the start on Wednesday versus the raptors. Went 3 6 and 4 with 2 steals and 1 block in 28 minutes. Shot 1-8 from 3.
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Please take this to UVA Scoop and MSU Scoop. Nobody gives a flying eff about these clowns anymore. Stephanie and Dave aren't our problem anymore.
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Sam career high 26 points 5 boards a d 2 assists in 36 minutes in Celts win tonight . Got another start.
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Sam 26 6 and 5 in 38 minutes. Excellent regular season for Sam.
Celts players have commented that they have confidence in Sam , if needed, in playoffs.
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Congrats to Sam on a solid season as an NBA role player. He probably will play very little in the playoffs, but he has earned his contract. I'm not surprised at all he's having an NBA career.
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Sam 0 1 and 0 in 11 minutes in Celtics win over Hawks
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Sam with 3 and 3 in 14 minutes in the Celtics win. Seems like he is getting some solid time each of the first two games
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Sam one rebound in 9 minutes in the Celts loss to the Hawks
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Sam one rebound in 9 minutes in the Celts loss to the Hawks
Now we tune into the Nuggets and Markus!
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Sam one rebound in 9 minutes in the Celts loss to the Hawks
i am a fan of sam, but that was a tough game for all the celts. he did get burned on a few defensive plays as well. couple of hawks players defintely took advantage of him, but there was no backside help either. the hawks were compelled to win that game
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i am a fan of sam, but that was a tough game for all the celts. he did get burned on a few defensive plays as well. couple of hawks players defintely took advantage of him, but there was no backside help either. the hawks were compelled to win that game
Good. Boston sucks
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Sam 3 and 2 in 9 minutes in Celts win over The Hawks
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Sam 8 2 and 2 in 13 minutes in the Celts Loss to The Hawks
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Sam 8 2 and 2 in 13 minutes in the Celts Loss to The Hawks
On Sportscenter, I saw two clips that involved Sam. In a real good one, he stripped the ball from an Atlanta player and then, just before he went out of bounds, got the ball to a Boston teammate to start a successful fast-break. In a less good one, Sam found himself 1-on-1 with Young, who easily went past Sam to score - no shame in that, really.
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Sam had 3 points in 4 minutes in the Celtics series clinching win
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Sam one assist in 5 minutes in The Celtics loss To Doc and his 76ers
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Sam one assist in 45 minutes in The Celtics loss To Doc and his 76ers
Not sure which game you were watching. Sam played 5 inconsequential minutes, badly missing the only 3 he took.
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Not sure which game you were watching. Sam played 5 inconsequential minutes, badly missing the only 3 he took.
Correction noted
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Sam 0 points in 8 minutes in Celts win
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Joey made G League Combine
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1654515468818849794/photo/1
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Sam did not play in last nights Celtic win .
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Sam no minutes in Celtics loss
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Sam 3 points in 3 minutes in the Celts loss
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Sam DNP - Coaches Decision in Celts win tonight.
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Sam 2 minutes 0 Points
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Joey 6-8 217 at G League Camp
29 inch vertical
https://gleague.nba.com/news/2023-g-league-elite-camp-official-testing-results
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Joey 6-8 217 at G League Camp
29 inch vertical
https://gleague.nba.com/news/2023-g-league-elite-camp-official-testing-results
Wojo lied to us
https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/joey-hauser/4227
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Wojo was Joey's most ardent supporter.
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Joey 1 for 2 in 15 minutes in Combine game
https://twitter.com/nbagleague/status/1657907993122422785/photo/1
Some Joey Publicity from G League Combine
https://twitter.com/nbagleague/status/1657862935371284483?cxt=HHwWhoC80crj9IEuAAAA
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Wojo was Joey's most ardent supporter.
So that caused him to lie about Joey's weight and height?
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To make Joey feel better about himself.
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To make Joey feel better about himself.
:D
Like you I always laugh at these combine "tales of the tape" to see how much their colleges or AAU teams were fluffing them.
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To make Joey feel better about himself.
Maybe they measured him when he was standing on a stack of letters he wrote.
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Why are neck measurements not listed?
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Given the current kerfuffle with Ja Morant, I am disappointed no one has taken the Ja dunking over the younger Hauser and created a caption "Is that a gun in your pants or are you just happy to see me." ;D
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8 players were called up from the G League Combine to the NBA Combine. Joey wasn't one of them.
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8 players were called up from the G League Combine to the NBA Combine. Joey wasn't one of them.
A letter will be forthcoming.
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Having watched enough G-league, I am not surprised the style does not showcase the strengths of Joey's game.
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Sam no minutes in Celtics loss
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Sam did not play in game 2 loss versus Heat
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If you don’t play Sam, you lose!
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If you don’t play Sam, you lose!
I agree with this analysis
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I agree with this analysis
Didn’t work out for Tony Bennett
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Sam 5 6 and 1 in 12 minutes in Celts loss
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Sam 5 6 and 1 in 12 minutes in Celts loss
Leaving out the story - all minutes when Celtics down by 30 and benched the starters.
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Leaving out the story - all minutes when Celtics down by 30 and benched the starters.
Sam was +4 led the Celts in that category
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Sam was +4 led the Celts in that category
Against Heat players that are even further down the bench than Sam is.
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Sam was +4 led the Celts in that category
That’s awesome down 30 playing against Heat scrubs.
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That’s awesome down 30 playing against Heat scrubs.
Yeah, that is a take I am not sure even his mother would post.
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Sam played one minute in the Celts win over The Heat
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Sam played one minute in the Celts win over The Heat
But what was his plus minus?
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Sam 3 points in 3 minutes in the Celts win
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Sam 3 points in 3 minutes in the Celts win
Were Sam’s 3 pts the difference in the game?
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Sam one minute no production in Celts loss
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Sam two points in 4 minutes.
Time to get ready for Hauser Basketball Camp in Stevens Point
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Sam two points in 4 minutes.
Time to get ready for Hauser Basketball Camp in Stevens Point
Where you can enter a raffle to try on a game worn NBA Finals Eastern Conference Finals uniform!
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Where you can enter a raffle to try on a game worn NBA Finals Eastern Conference Finals uniform!
Doesn't even need to be washed!
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Sam two points in 4 minutes.
Time to get ready for Hauser Basketball Camp in Stevens Point
Boston has raised the white flag, literally, as four Caucasian players take the court. It’s the most Celtics thing evah.
https://twitter.com/MiamiRadioBeast/status/1663374200092893188?s=20
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Sam two points in 4 minutes.
Time to get ready for Hauser Basketball Camp in Stevens Point
Sam with that trademark Hauser defense.
https://streamable.com/0cwxnq
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Sam with that trademark Hauser defense.
https://streamable.com/0cwxnq
The play before that, Miami tried to attack him on a pick-n-roll, but he actually did a decent job. But yeah...defense is not his strong suit.
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Sam with that trademark Hauser defense.
https://streamable.com/0cwxnq
Lol. Usually you'd see a player the caliber of Jimmy try to hit Sam hard on the screen to force the switch and then get the ball on the wing and go to work on Sam. Jimmy knew even Duncan Robinson could get an easy cut to the hoop with Sam, without even trying to hit him with a screen.
Good thing he just wanted to play the game the right way. Went to a HOF coach. Wanted to actually play defense like Bennett Ball does.
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Lol. Usually you'd see a player the caliber of Jimmy try to hit Sam hard on the screen to force the switch and then get the ball on the wing and go to work on Sam. Jimmy knew even Duncan Robinson could get an easy cut to the hoop with Sam, without even trying to hit him with a screen.
Good thing he just wanted to play the game the right way. Went to a HOF coach. Wanted to actually play defense like Bennett Ball does.
Dude, that is just piling on.............please continue.
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Dude, that is just piling on.............please continue.
Yeah, keep piling on the guy in the NBA….
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Yeah, keep piling on the guy in the NBA….
i struggle to pile on sam. wrong doogie to ride. sammy tried to keep the peace and now he's in the show...wait until joey gets to the nba, then ya'll have something to cheer on
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From a piece in The Athletic talking about the Celtics' season:
Some of the players started to believe Mazzulla prioritized the offense too much, according to team sources. Several veterans wondered why the coaching staff went away from Grant Williams, who had a significant role in slowing down Kevin Durant, Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bam Adebayo on the way to the Finals last season. Still, in early March, he received his first DNP-CD since the 2020-21 season. Williams’ playing time was sporadic from that point forward and he again fell out of the rotation when the playoffs began.
The coaching staff believed in Sam Hauser’s offensive production and felt that because opponents were going out of their way to target him and abandon their own offense, his ability to hold up decently in isolation made him impactful. Mazzulla also wanted to get Hauser more experience to prepare him for the playoffs, believing Grant Williams would be ready to go if his number was called.
But the team’s veterans believed Williams would be crucial in the playoffs, so Tatum and Brown met with Mazzulla in early March to implore him to put Williams back into the rotation, team sources told The Athletic.
“The stars stepped up and told Joe what they wanted and Joe listened,” a player source said.
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From a piece in The Athletic talking about the Celtics' season:
Some of the players started to believe Mazzulla prioritized the offense too much, according to team sources. Several veterans wondered why the coaching staff went away from Grant Williams, who had a significant role in slowing down Kevin Durant, Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bam Adebayo on the way to the Finals last season. Still, in early March, he received his first DNP-CD since the 2020-21 season. Williams’ playing time was sporadic from that point forward and he again fell out of the rotation when the playoffs began.
The coaching staff believed in Sam Hauser’s offensive production and felt that because opponents were going out of their way to target him and abandon their own offense, his ability to hold up decently in isolation made him impactful. Mazzulla also wanted to get Hauser more experience to prepare him for the playoffs, believing Grant Williams would be ready to go if his number was called.
But the team’s veterans believed Williams would be crucial in the playoffs, so Tatum and Brown met with Mazzulla in early March to implore him to put Williams back into the rotation, team sources told The Athletic.
“The stars stepped up and told Joe what they wanted and Joe listened,” a player source said.
(https://i.imgflip.com/4l9is5.jpg?a467712)
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From a piece in The Athletic talking about the Celtics' season:
Some of the players started to believe Mazzulla prioritized the offense too much, according to team sources. Several veterans wondered why the coaching staff went away from Grant Williams, who had a significant role in slowing down Kevin Durant, Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bam Adebayo on the way to the Finals last season. Still, in early March, he received his first DNP-CD since the 2020-21 season. Williams’ playing time was sporadic from that point forward and he again fell out of the rotation when the playoffs began.
The coaching staff believed in Sam Hauser’s offensive production and felt that because opponents were going out of their way to target him and abandon their own offense, his ability to hold up decently in isolation made him impactful. Mazzulla also wanted to get Hauser more experience to prepare him for the playoffs, believing Grant Williams would be ready to go if his number was called.
But the team’s veterans believed Williams would be crucial in the playoffs, so Tatum and Brown met with Mazzulla in early March to implore him to put Williams back into the rotation, team sources told The Athletic.
“The stars stepped up and told Joe what they wanted and Joe listened,” a player source said.
(https://media.tenor.com/2_qyXn2gioMAAAAd/william-shatner-irony.gif)
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(https://media.tenor.com/2_qyXn2gioMAAAAd/william-shatner-irony.gif)
He’s a cancer to teams. More than enough proof at this point.
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(https://i.imgflip.com/4l9is5.jpg?a467712)
Incredible.
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From a piece in The Athletic talking about the Celtics' season:
Some of the players started to believe Mazzulla prioritized the offense too much, according to team sources. Several veterans wondered why the coaching staff went away from Grant Williams, who had a significant role in slowing down Kevin Durant, Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bam Adebayo on the way to the Finals last season. Still, in early March, he received his first DNP-CD since the 2020-21 season. Williams’ playing time was sporadic from that point forward and he again fell out of the rotation when the playoffs began.
The coaching staff believed in Sam Hauser’s offensive production and felt that because opponents were going out of their way to target him and abandon their own offense, his ability to hold up decently in isolation made him impactful. Mazzulla also wanted to get Hauser more experience to prepare him for the playoffs, believing Grant Williams would be ready to go if his number was called.
But the team’s veterans believed Williams would be crucial in the playoffs, so Tatum and Brown met with Mazzulla in early March to implore him to put Williams back into the rotation, team sources told The Athletic.
“The stars stepped up and told Joe what they wanted and Joe listened,” a player source said.
Maybe the Coach should have stuck to his original game plan…….
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Maybe the Coach should have stuck to his original game plan…….
Yeah, Heat could have won in 5
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From a piece in The Athletic talking about the Celtics' season:
Some of the players started to believe Mazzulla prioritized the offense too much, according to team sources. Several veterans wondered why the coaching staff went away from Grant Williams, who had a significant role in slowing down Kevin Durant, Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bam Adebayo on the way to the Finals last season. Still, in early March, he received his first DNP-CD since the 2020-21 season. Williams’ playing time was sporadic from that point forward and he again fell out of the rotation when the playoffs began.
The coaching staff believed in Sam Hauser’s offensive production and felt that because opponents were going out of their way to target him and abandon their own offense, his ability to hold up decently in isolation made him impactful. Mazzulla also wanted to get Hauser more experience to prepare him for the playoffs, believing Grant Williams would be ready to go if his number was called.
But the team’s veterans believed Williams would be crucial in the playoffs, so Tatum and Brown met with Mazzulla in early March to implore him to put Williams back into the rotation, team sources told The Athletic.
“The stars stepped up and told Joe what they wanted and Joe listened,” a player source said.
Shocked that the team leaders had to go to Mazzula to try to get him to play Grant Williams over Sam. Knowing the Hausers just want to win and play the game the right way, I’d have expected Sam to take responsibility himself and give Grant his own minutes.
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Shocked that the team leaders had to go to Mazzula to try to get him to play Grant Williams over Sam. Knowing the Hausers just want to win and play the game the right way, I’d have expected Sam to take responsibility himself and give Grant his own minutes.
Mazzula should have kicked those malcontents off the team, a’ina? How dare they usurp his authority as coach? How could mere players (and maybe thousands of fans) know better than an inexperienced, mediocre coach?
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Shocked that the team leaders had to go to Mazzula to try to get him to play Grant Williams over Sam. Knowing the Hausers just want to win and play the game the right way, I’d have expected Sam to take responsibility himself and give Grant his own minutes.
He’s a coach killer
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Mazzula should have kicked those malcontents off the team, a’ina? How dare they usurp his authority as coach? How could mere players (and maybe thousands of fans) know better than an inexperienced, mediocre coach?
Sam and Joe are on the same page. Equal shots for all. Sam and Joe wanted guys like Peyton Pritchard to shoot just as much as Brown and Tatum. Unfortunately Joe have into the chuckers and now the C’s will have to find a way to win without guys like Pritchard and have to settle for Tatum and Brown.
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makes ya wonder if mazzula was either penalizing grant for his charade toward f'ing butler or felt he could've been compromised by it. i think maybe a stern lecture about trash talking with one of the best and keeping ones emotions in check accompanied by a little bit of pine time would've sufficed. then unleash him to see if it worked, but sam?
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Joey invited to the green room tomorrow? Missed that story.
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Green and white room. He is a Spartan.
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Bucks fans gonna be ok when they sign him this week??
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Bucks fans gonna be ok when they sign him this week??
Absolutely. If they think he’s worth a look, I’m good with that. This front office has done a good job building a team
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Joey signs a two-way deal with the Jazz where Wojo will be his G-League coach.
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Joey signs a two-way deal with the Jazz where Wojo will be his G-League coach.
Life is beautiful
https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba/status/1672110489248346112
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This is too good.
Mommy and Daddy H are already getting the pen and paper ready!
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Hope Joey finds a nice Mormon woman to settle down with. Utah is quite beautiful
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Lol.
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I hope Joey's new G-league team has a player that is a prolific scorer and Wojo channels the entire offense through him.
Groundhog day, Hauser style.
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I hope Joey's new G-league team has a player that is a prolific scorer and Wojo channels the entire offense through him.
Groundhog day, Hauser style.
Could always ask Baskonia if Markus is available.
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This is too good.
Mommy and Daddy H are already getting the pen and paper ready!
Isn't it Joey's choice to go there though? It's not like he was drafted by the Jazz. He willingly signed a contract to be 2-way with the Jazz... right? Or am I not understanding how this works?
It will still be fun to watch play out.
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Isn't it Joey's choice to go there though? It's not like he was drafted by the Jazz. He willingly signed a contract to be 2-way with the Jazz... right? Or am I not understanding how this works?
It will still be fun to watch play out.
Yes. But if it was between a 2 way contract with the Jazz or a camp invite or something elsewhere, it's pretty safe to take the 2 way contract.
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Isn't it Joey's choice to go there though? It's not like he was drafted by the Jazz. He willingly signed a contract to be 2-way with the Jazz... right? Or am I not understanding how this works?
It will still be fun to watch play out.
It absolutely was Joey's choice to go to Utah.
It also absolutely was Joey's choice to go to Marquette.
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It absolutely was Joey's choice to go to Utah.
It also absolutely was Joey's choice to go to Marquette.
Wade part owner of Jazz. So Joey maintaining his MU connections in multiple ways.
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Poor Joseph. Even at the GLeague combine he goes viral for his defensive prowess.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsMVFJ2xKxM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Poor Joseph. Even at the GLeague combine he goes viral for his defensive prowess.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsMVFJ2xKxM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Hand down, man down.
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I hope Joey's new G-league team has a player that is a prolific scorer and Wojo channels the entire offense through him.
Groundhog day, Hauser style.
That’s what passed for “coaching” when Wojo was at MU. If it turns out to be Groundhog Day, Wojo style, he’ll be looking for work again soon. Hopefully Steve learned from his failures.
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Exclusive interview with Sam and Joey
https://www.wsaw.com/2023/06/23/sit-down-interview-with-joey-sam-hauser/?outputType=amp
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Jazz Summer League team is going to be must see TV
https://www.wlns.com/sports/former-spartan-joey-hauser-prepares-for-nba-summer-league-with-the-utah-jazz/amp/
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never burn a bridge, eyn'a?
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Joey 0 for 3 so far tonight
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Joey 0 for 3 so far tonight
Joey getting some boards and assists though
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Joey 3 9 and 3 plus a steal in 16 minutes 1/5 from 3
https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/Article/Utah-Jazz-Joey-Hauser-Los-Angeles-Lakers-Max-Christie-NBA-Summer-League-212422819/Amp/
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wasn't he in the hot dog eating contest at half time? wrong joey?
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Joseph's had an impressive Summer League showing so far this year.
I think another letter writing campaign may be coming for Wojo.
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Joseph's had an impressive Summer League showing so far this year.
I think another letter writing campaign may be coming for Wojo.
Considering Evan Bradds is coaching the summer league team, if Joseph sends it to Wojo, it will have the same effect as the first.
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Joey 0 1 and 0 in 8 minutes 0 for 2
He is now 1 for 7
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Joey 5 2 and 2 in 12 minutes yesterday 1/5 from 3
Overall 2 for 12 from 3
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Joey 4 4 and 1 in 19 minutes and a start . Had 5 fouls shot 1-2 from 3
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Joey 4 4 and 1 in 19 minutes and a start . Had 5 fouls shot 1-2 from 3
Heckuva player
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Heckuva player
Signed as a 3 and LW player?
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Even the summer league announcers bashing Joey’s defense as he gets dunked on.
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Even the summer league announcers bashing Joey’s defense as he gets dunked on.
Heckuva player, aina?
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Joey 6-5-0 in 19 minutes shot 2/5 from 3
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Joey 9 3 and 3 in 17 minutes shot 3/4 from 3
Joey now 8/23 from 3 in Summer League. 34.8 % not were he needs to be, however last 3 games he has overcome the shaky start he had .
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Joey 3 4 4 in 18 minutes . 1/6 from 3
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Joey 3 4 4 in 18 minutes . 1/6 from 3
Heckuva player, aina
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We should rename this thread the Herman Cain Hauser thread.
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Joey last game in Summer League 7 4 and 1 2/4 from 3 overall was 42.9 percent from 3 in Summer League according to NBA stats
Got a meh review from Deseret
https://www.deseret.com/2023/7/18/23798243/good-bad-and-ugly-from-utah-jazzs-summer-league
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Joey last game in Summer League 7 4 and 1 2/4 from 3 overall was 42.9 percent from 3 in Summer League according to NBA stats
Got a meh review from Deseret
https://www.deseret.com/2023/7/18/23798243/good-bad-and-ugly-from-utah-jazzs-summer-league
The same could be said for Hauser. I know the Jazz really wanted to bolster their shooting depth and that they are looking for dynamic scorers, but there wasn’t any time during Summer League where I felt wowed by Juzang or Hauser outside of a few good shots.
I hope the reporter didn't go into Summer League expecting to be "wowed" in any way by Hauser The Younger. Even when he's not falling down, committing turnovers or fouling, he's not exactly one who makes observers say, "Wow."
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The same could be said for Hauser. I know the Jazz really wanted to bolster their shooting depth and that they are looking for dynamic scorers, but there wasn’t any time during Summer League where I felt wowed by Juzang or Hauser outside of a few good shots.
I hope the reporter didn't go into Summer League expecting to be "wowed" in any way by Hauser The Younger. Even when he's not falling down, committing turnovers or fouling, he's not exactly one who makes observers say, "Wow."
Heckuva player, aina?
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Wojo got the best out of him once. Perhaps he can do it again.
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Year Two of Summer Camp going well for Sam
https://www.wsaw.com/2023/07/24/sam-hauser-hosts-2nd-annual-sam-hauser-basketball-camp-stevens-point/
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Year Two of Summer Camp going well for Sam
https://www.wsaw.com/2023/07/24/sam-hauser-hosts-2nd-annual-sam-hauser-basketball-camp-stevens-point/
Can campers still put on a Finals worn NBA uniform?
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Some discussion on Sam and competition Celts rotation spot
https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2023/08/06/celtics-rotation-battles-sam-hauser-vs-oshae-brissett/?amp=1
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Congratulations to Sam and Mary on their wedding in Milwaukee
https://www.instagram.com/p/CvxrYCRtR6b/
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Interview with Sam and Joey
https://www.wsaw.com/2023/07/05/sticking-nba-sit-down-interview-with-hauser-brothers/
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Congratulations to Sam and Mary on their wedding in Milwaukee
https://www.instagram.com/p/CvxrYCRtR6b/
Kind of wild he was married on MU’s campus.
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Kind of wild he was married on MU’s campus.
Even weirder that Wojo was the best man.
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Who knew that being a quitter makes people here talk about Sam and JoJo more than if they had made letter writing less important than playing with their teammates?
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All good things to the happy couple.
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Kind of wild he was married on MU’s campus.
believe it or not, if you were to ask sam which school he identifies with, he will tell you MU
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believe it or not, if you were to ask sam which school he identifies with, he will tell you MU
Too bad baby bro didn’t have the spine to simply go to the school he wanted to go to in the first place. Then the family split the MU locker room by writing a letter, and then big bro didn’t have the spine to stay where he allegedly identifies with when baby bro quit. Could’ve been an MU all timer. Instead nobody besides some meat eaters care about his entire time at MU, and all he was at UVA was the guy who jumped aboard after they won a national title and led his team to an upset loss in round one.
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Too bad baby bro didn’t have the spine to simply go to the school he wanted to go to in the first place. Then the family split the MU locker room by writing a letter, and then big bro didn’t have the spine to stay where he allegedly identifies with when baby bro quit. Could’ve been an MU all timer. Instead nobody besides some meat eaters care about his entire time at MU, and all he was at UVA was the guy who jumped aboard after they won a national title and led his team to an upset loss in round one.
blah blah wha awha wha wha wha blah blah blah awhwa wha wha blah blah
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blah blah wha awha wha wha wha blah blah blah awhwa wha wha blah blah
This maybe your best all time post. Congrats!
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This maybe your best all time post. Congrats!
Best or most grammatically correct?
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Congratulations to Sam and Mary on their wedding in Milwaukee
https://www.instagram.com/p/CvxrYCRtR6b/
Wow. I introduced them. Unreal.
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Wow. I introduced them. Unreal.
Stiffed on an invite, hey?
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Stiffed on an invite, hey?
What was it that Jerry Reinsdorf said about wedding invites in The Last Dance?
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Kind of wild he was married on MU’s campus.
I know that's not Gesu. Where was that picture of the ceremony taken?
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I know that's not Gesu. Where was that picture of the ceremony taken?
Y'all can still buy them a gift from Target. Too bad someone already bought Settlers of Catan.
https://registry.theknot.com/mary-dodge-samuel-hauser-july-2023-wi/41583935
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I know that's not Gesu. Where was that picture of the ceremony taken?
I believe it’s the church next to the St James Apartments, just South of Straz dorm. I think they turned it into an event space within the last few years.
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Y'all can still buy them a gift from Target. Too bad someone already bought Settlers of Catan.
https://registry.theknot.com/mary-dodge-samuel-hauser-july-2023-wi/41583935
Hopefully Markus sent him something.
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Hopefully Markus sent him something.
A fancy Notebook, perhaps?
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Hopefully Markus sent him something.
Stationary.
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Sam is a virgin no longer!
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Hopefully Markus sent him something.
Markus isn’t making Sam money. His best wishes were sufficient.
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Stationary.
Well played
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Markus isn’t making Sam money. His best wishes were sufficient.
That's how it works with wedding gifts huh?
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That's how it works with wedding gifts huh?
Gifts size directly proportional to venue quality
Sam had nice venue
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Opportunity Knocks for Sam
https://hardwoodhoudini.com/2023/08/23/challenges-boston-celtics-sharpshooter/
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No one cares anymore mrs hauser.
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The actual new Mrs. Hauser might.
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https://theathletic.com/4810718/2023/08/28/celtics-sam-hauser-offense-2/?amp=1
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Jazz going to start their training camp in early October in Hawaii, play an exhibition for Maui relief. Joey will be trying to retain his two way contract position
https://kslsports.com/504018/who-is-on-utah-jazz-roster-one-month-from-training-camp/
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2023/08/23/jazz-hold-preseason-training-camp/
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Sam will have some competition from free agent signing
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/13/nba-boston-celtics-svi-impact/
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Spent the weekend in beautiful Stevens Point for our good friends' son's wedding.
Of course, the highlight of the trip was driving past SPASH. The Hauseriffic aura was spine-tingling!
Actually, one of the highlights of the trip was the night-before party at a local brewery called O'so Brewing. I'm taking it as a great sign, celebrating a player who had plenty of reasons to quit our program but who instead chose to stay to make Marquette (and himself) great.
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Spent the weekend in beautiful Stevens Point for our good friends' son's wedding.
Of course, the highlight of the trip was driving past SPASH. The Hauseriffic aura was spine-tingling!
Actually, one of the highlights of the trip was the night-before party at a local brewery called O'so Brewing. I'm taking it as a great sign, celebrating a player who had plenty of reasons to quit our program but who instead chose to stay to make Marquette (and himself) great.
Too bad you didn't have time to have brunch with Dave and Stephanie
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Too bad you didn't have time to have brunch with Dave and Stephanie
You hear the Lost Letter Cafe is a nice brunch place.
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Spent the weekend in beautiful Stevens Point for our good friends' son's wedding.
Of course, the highlight of the trip was driving past SPASH. The Hauseriffic aura was spine-tingling!
Actually, one of the highlights of the trip was the night-before party at a local brewery called O'so Brewing. I'm taking it as a great sign, celebrating a player who had plenty of reasons to quit our program but who instead chose to stay to make Marquette (and himself) great.
You already had the best experience you could have in Stevens Point and that’s leaving Stevens Point
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Too bad you didn't have time to have brunch with Dave and Stephanie
You mean they weren’t at your manor for the weekend?
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Sam has a lot of competition for playing time
https://www.celticsblog.com/2023/9/24/23871385/bucket-of-wings-boston-celtics-sam-hauser-svi-mykhailuik-oshae-brissett-dalano-banton-jordan-walsh
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Sam's focus areas for the coming season
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/lists/nba-boston-celtics-hauser-3-things/
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Sam on Tatum and Jaylen Brown
https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nba/boston-celtics/celtics-videos/sam-hauser-on-what-tatum-brown-bring-to-the-celtics/556479/?amp=1
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Sam on Tatum and Jaylen Brown
https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nba/boston-celtics/celtics-videos/sam-hauser-on-what-tatum-brown-bring-to-the-celtics/556479/?amp=1
Has he written a letter yet? Shouldn't they be sacrificing their stats and shots for the good of the team? Making sure Luke Kornet is getting his shots, too?
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Has he written a letter yet? Shouldn't they be sacrificing their stats and shots for the good of the team? Making sure Luke Kornet is getting his shots, too?
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
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Has he written a letter yet? Shouldn't they be sacrificing their stats and shots for the good of the team? Making sure Luke Kornet is getting his shots, too?
He doesn’t need a letter. He’s in the association.
Maybe you can write a letter and get Markus a tryout in the majors or get your guy who was gonna make us Duke North a real job.
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He doesn’t need a letter. He’s in the association.
Maybe you can write a letter and get Markus a tryout in the majors or get your guy who was gonna make us Duke North a real job.
As a Marquette grad, I’m sure wades would love to help a fellow Marquette grad if he can.
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He doesn’t need a letter. He’s in the association.
Maybe you can write a letter and get Markus a tryout in the majors or get your guy who was gonna make us Duke North a real job.
Cranky ole Lenny’s is on a roll tonight!!
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Cranky ole Lenny’s is on a roll tonight!!
More insults and ageism! So, so clever! LOL
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More insults and ageism! So, so clever! LOL
I mean you’re cranky. And you’re old.
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Let's make fun of the guys who left Wojo for < checks notes > Tom Izzo and Tony Bennett. That will certainly show our basketball IQ
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Let's make fun of the guys who left Wojo for < checks notes > Tom Izzo and Tony Bennett. That will certainly show our basketball IQ
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They did? When?
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Let's make fun of the guys who left Wojo for < checks notes > Tom Izzo and Tony Bennett. That will certainly show our basketball IQ
🤡🤡🤡
And gave Tony 0 NCAA Tourney wins and took Izzo 4 years to slug Joey through the mud to get some Tourney wins. Good job guys!
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I mean you’re cranky. And you’re old.
Speaking of cranky,…
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Joey foot injury
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/jazzs-joey-hauser-absent-once-again/amp/
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Probably hurt it stomping when no one passed him the ball.
Sorry. Too easy.
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Joey waived by The Jazz.
https://kslsports.com/505972/jazz-waive-forward-joey-hauser/
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Joey waived by The Jazz.
https://kslsports.com/505972/jazz-waive-forward-joey-hauser/
Now he’s free to negotiate peace in the Middle East.
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Joey waived by The Jazz.
https://kslsports.com/505972/jazz-waive-forward-joey-hauser/
Did they do it by "jazz hands"?
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Now he’s free to negotiate peace in the Middle East.
Heckuva player, aina?
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Did they do it by "jazz hands"?
;D ;D ;D
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Sam battling to earn spot in Celts rotation
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/10/celtics-notes-hauser-banton-pritchard-porzingis.html
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https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/celtics-sam-hauser-lifts-bench-in-preseason-win/amp/
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Joey signed with the Clippers.
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Joey signed with the Clippers.
Hope they don’t trade for Harden. His folks might melt
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Joey signed with the Clippers.
Looks like Clippers plan is to waive Joey and then put him on their G League team. So we should hopefully get some Joey versus Wojo matchups durong course of season
https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/la-clippers-sign-brother-of-celtics-player
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Looks like Clippers plan is to waive Joey and then put him on their G League team. So we should hopefully get wome Noey versus Wojo matchups durong course of season
https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/la-clippers-sign-brother-of-celtics-player
'Noey versus Wojo' may be the greatest Freudian slip of all time.
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Looks like Clippers plan is to waive Joey and then put him on their G League team. So we should hopefully get wome Noey versus Wojo matchups durong course of season
https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/la-clippers-sign-brother-of-celtics-player
Noey is an unintentionally great nickname.
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'Noey versus Wojo' may be the greatest Freudian slip of all time.
Correction Noted
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Haha awesome.
Can’t wait for that can’t miss Jazz GLeague affiliate vs. Clippers GLeague affiliate game. I assume it’ll be the night cap following the Bucks/C’s game on TNT.
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Haha awesome.
Can’t wait for that can’t miss Jazz GLeague affiliate vs. Clippers GLeague affiliate game. I assume it’ll be the night cap following the Bucks/C’s game on TNT.
Ask Herman for his G League All Access Pass credentials
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Even Wojo could drive past Noey for a layup.
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Hope they don’t trade for Harden. His folks might melt
zer0 for the 0
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Sam 0-4 in 13 minutes with 2 boards in Celtics win over Knicks.
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Sam 1-2 in 10 minutes in Heat win over Celts
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Sam 8 8 and 1 in 25 minutes in Celts win . 2-9 from 3
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Sam 17 and 3 5 of 6 from 3 in 19 minutes in Celts 155 point game win against Pacers
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Haha awesome.
Can’t wait for that can’t miss Jazz GLeague affiliate vs. Clippers GLeague affiliate game. I assume it’ll be the night cap following the Bucks/C’s game on TNT.
Maybe when Markus comes back to the states he can play with Joey in the G.
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Maybe when Markus comes back to the states he can play with Joey in the G.
And maybe you’ll post about it 2 weeks after the game happens!
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Sam 5 and 1 with 1 for 2 from 3 in18 minutes in Celts win yesterday.
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Sams last two games
11 and 4 ,3/8 from 3 in 24 minutes . Celts lost
13 and 4 , 3/6 in 18 minutes , Celts lost
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Sam with 15 2 and 1 5/10 from 3 in 24 minutes in Celtics win.
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Is Sam the worst 6th man in NBA history?
Yet, we still have people here who are totally obsessed with him. He is a quitter and he sucks.
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Ewe don't no ball, aina?
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Sam 12 and 4 4/6 from 3 in 18 minutes. Celts win to go 7-3 on season
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Is Sam the worst 6th man in NBA history?
Yet, we still have people here who are totally obsessed with him. He is a quitter and he sucks.
this must be teal or what doc says...sam leads the nba in 3 point shooting over the past 5 games hitting 37.5% 50% 50% 66.7% 75%
1 turnover
sam is the cool hauser, doogie is a dog
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Who?
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Sam 12 4 and 2 4/6 from 3 in 21 minutes in Celtics win
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Joey , with Clippers G League, logging in 15.8 minutes a game first three games averaging 6.7 and 2 boards on 54.3% shooting
https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1641792/traditional/
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Hope they don’t trade for Harden. His folks might melt
I think Joey should demand the ball on the Clippers. I don't see any other scorers better than him on the team. And yes, mom should get involved.
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Harden, Westbrook, George, Leonard ... That's Markus x4 on steroids.
Would be quite a letter-writing campaign for the Hausers!
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Sam gets the start in the Celts win over 76ers . Celts Brown and Porzingis were injured. Sam played 35 minutes went 8 2 and 2 with 2 for 8 from the field.
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Sam 11 3 and 3 3/6 from 3 in 22 minutes in Celtics win
Joey 13 3 and 2 and 3/5 from 3 in 22 minutes in G league win
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Sam 15 4 and 0 shooting 5/7 from 3 in 21 minutes in Celtics win
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Sam with the start. 3 1 1 1/9 from 3 inn37 minutes. Had opportunity to win game but missed shot at buzzer in regulation.
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Sam with the start. 3 1 1 1/9 from 3 inn37 minutes. Had opportunity to win game but missed shot at buzzer in regulation.
The Hornets are grateful for his abject failure.
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The Hornets are grateful for his abject failure.
Was one poor night among a streak of many good ones . Of course Hornets will take what they can get .
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Sam 10 2 and 1 2/3 from 3 in 19 minutes in Celtics win
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Sam 10 2 and 0 2/4 for 3 in 25 minutes
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Sam 12 4 and 2 4/9 from 3 in 31 minutes in Celts win over Hawks
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Sam 9 10 and 2 and 2/10 from 3 in 21 minutes in Celtics win over The Bulls
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Joey averaging 9.1 3.6 and 1..1, shooting 50 percent from 3 , in 21.8 minutes in G League Playbfor Ontario Clippers
https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1641792/
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Sam 11 5 and 1 3/4 from 3 in 25 minutes in Celts win
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Stolen from the internet.
Sam Hauser shows up for a tournament game for the first time since HS and Boston still can't get it done.
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Sam 15 6 and 1 shot 5/7 from 3 in 22 minutes in Celtics loss
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Knot bad considerin' sum heer had im' fookin' ded and berried, hey?
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Worst 6th man in the NBA.
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Knot bad considerin' sum heer had im' fookin' ded and berried, hey?
Yep. Your buddy Crash still owes me a 6-pack for the bet he lost; I said Sam would have an NBA career, he said no way.
Sam's an elite shooter with a good hoops IQ. It sucks that his whiny little bro convinced him to walk away from our alma mater.
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Knot bad considerin' sum heer had im' fookin' ded and berried, hey?
Speaking of which, how about that Jordan Love
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Speaking of which, how about that Jordan Love
Trayd hiz azz fore a burnt peece of towst, oona balloona?
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Speaking of which, how about that Jordan Love
He's even worse than #34, 'aina?
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Or the good old days under Budenholzer.
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It sucks that his whiny little bro convinced him to walk away from our alma mater.
You know what really sucks, Mike? You making up a story and asserting it as fact with zero evidence to back it up.
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You know what really sucks, Mike? You making up a story and asserting it as fact with zero evidence to back it up.
Does it suck as bad as Joey on defense?
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You know what really sucks, Mike? You making up a story and asserting it as fact with zero evidence to back it up.
This is neither a court of law nor a journalistic site.
I happen to think there's truth to Joey, mommy and daddy, and the letter ... but you're right that only the Hausers, Wojo and a few others really know.
But hey, people here make up stories all the time, Tony. I mean, one Scooper made up a bald-faced lie about how another Scooper would vote in an election involving Rashida Tlaib. That was disappointing, that was personal, and the lying Scooper should have known better.
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Speaking of which, how about that Jordan Love
Da dude is rockin' it da past 3 games. Makin' hisself a nice nest egg. But, lotsa golf yet ta bee played. We'll sea, aina?
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Da dude is rockin' it da past 3 games. Makin' hisself a nice nest egg. But, lotsa golf yet ta bee played. We'll sea, aina?
peddle his azz for a uzed bike
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Sure, crappin' da bedd iz in play, hey?
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Sam 1 3 1 0/5 from 3 in 20 minutew in Celts win
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Sam 9 3 1 and 3/4 from 3 in 19 minutes in Celtics win
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I hope that after he retires, we continue to get daily updates on the quitter’s life.
Fascinating stuff.
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Sam 9 0 1 shot 3 /3 from 3 in 18 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 9 0 1 shot 3 /3 from 3 in 18 minutes in Celts win
Serious question, Herman.
Why do you post every game Sam plays? Do you really think anyone here care?
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Joey continues to shoot well in the G League. 46 percent from 3 88.9% from Charity Stripe. For advanced stats folks. Offensive Rating 108.0 and Defensive Rating 97.8
https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1641792/
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Serious question, Herman.
Why do you post every game Sam plays? Do you really think anyone here care?
You care enough to read them and post about them…so I guess the answer is yes.
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Joey continues to shoot well in the G League. 46 percent from 3 88.9% from Charity Stripe. For advanced stats folks. Offensive Rating 108.0 and Defensive Rating 97.8
https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1641792/
Michigan State returned every important player except Joey and a big time freshman class. Top 5 preseason. I guess they miss him.
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You care enough to read them and post about them…so I guess the answer is yes.
You don’t realize the difference between caring and annoyance.
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Michigan State returned every important player except Joey and a big time freshman class. Top 5 preseason. I guess they miss him.
The problem is, they had to play slower and jump over him because he kept falling down. Now that he’s gone, they have to re-learn how to play with tempo and 5 guys
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You don’t realize the difference between caring and annoyance.
He does it just to get this response
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https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/news/after-returning-to-his-roots-sam-hauser-discusses-jordan-walshs-development
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Sam 11 7 4 shooting 3/6 from 3 in 32 minutes in Celts win over The Heat Friday
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Sam 4 2 and 0 shooting 0 for 3 from 3 in 16 minutes in Celts win
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Can I get a Sam update please?
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Sam 0 3 1 shot 0 /6 from 3 in 20 minutes in Celtics loss
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Sam 0 3 1 shot 0 /6 from 3 in 20 minutes in Celtics loss
Thanks for pointing out that Sam's incompetence cost the Celtics a game. Appreciate it.
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You don’t realize the difference between caring and annoyance.
You could simply ignore a thread you don't like.
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You don’t realize the difference between caring and annoyance.
every time i see one of your posts i think the same thing
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Sam 10 5 and 1 shot 2/4 from 3 in 35 minutes in Celts win.
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Sam. 3 2 and 4 shooting 1/5 from 3 in 18 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 2 2 and 0 shot 0/4 from 3 in 14 minutes in Celtics win
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Sam 5 3 and 1 shot 1/4 in 17 minutes in Celts win over The Pistons.
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Sam 5 3 and 1 shot 1/4 in 17 minutes in Celts win over The Pistons.
unbelievable game, pistons up by 21 still manage to lose #28 in a row
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Sam 9 9 and 1 shooting 3/7 from 3 in 34 minutes (started) in Celts win
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Sam 11 4 and 1 shot 3/5 from 3 in 20 minutes in 20 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 6 1 and 0 shot 2/3 from 3 in 10 minutes in Celts loss
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Sam 6 1 and 0 shot 2/3 from 3 in 10 minutes in Celts loss
Cost the Celtics another game.
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Cost the Celtics another game.
100% efg% will doom you every time.
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Sam 13 5 and 1 shot 3/7 from 3 in 23 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 5 4 and 1 shot 1/5 from 3 in 16 minutes in Celts win
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His absence is clearly holding this season's MU team back.
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Sam did not play Monday ,in Celts loss, due to right shoulder impingement . He is playing tonight.
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Sam 6 4 and 0 shot 2/5 from 3 in 17 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 15 4 and O shot 4/8 from 3 in 23 minutes in Celts loss
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Wonder what Joey is up to
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last i heard, he was doing the turkish towel trick for wojo down in utah somewhere
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Wonder what Joey is up to
Having a modest season averaging 7 ppg in 26 minutes per game for Ontario Clippers G League
https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1641792/
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Sam 6 6 and 0 shot 2/8 from 3 in 20 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 3 5 and 0 shot 1/1 from 3 in 16 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 7 4 and 2 shot 1/4 from 3 in 20 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 0 1 and 1 in shot 0/1 from 3 in 15 minutes in Celts loss
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Sam 0 1 and 1 in shot 0/1 from 3 in 15 minutes in Celts loss
Cost 'em their home winning streak.
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Sam 9 7 and 6 shot 3/12 from 3 in 31 minutes, started, in Celtics win.
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Sam 9 7 and 6 shot 3/12 from 3 in 31 minutes, started, in Celtics win.
12 three point attempts? Sheesh! Making Markus blush!
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12 three point attempts? Sheesh! Making Markus blush!
4 letters written to Stevens after that one.
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Sam 5 1 and 0 1/2 from 3 in 15 minutes in Celtics in over Mavericks
Sam 5 0 and 1 shot 1/1 from 3 in 12 minutes in Celtics win over Heat
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Basically carrying them.
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Sam 6 3 and 1 shot 2/4 from 3 in 20 minutes in Celts loss
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Sam 11 0 and 1 shot 3/7 from 3 in 25 minutes in Celts win over Pelicans
Sam 9 2 and 1 shot 3/5 from 3 in 23 minutes in Celts win over Pacers
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Sam 17 3 and 0 shot 5/9 from 3 in 22 minutes in Celts loss
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Sam is shooting .426 from 3 since Dec. 29, and .536 over the last 6 games.
Doing exactly what the Celtics paid him to do.
If he keeps hitting 3s, he will have a long and lucrative career in the NBA.
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Joey still adjusting to G League . Averaging 7 points shooting 29 from 3
https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1641792/traditional/
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Sam 3 3 and 1 shot 1/3 from 3 in 24 minutes in Celtics Win
Sam 10 5 and 0 shot 2/6 from 3 in 25 minutes in Celtics Win
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Sam 5 1 1 shot 1/6 from 3 in 16 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 6 0 and 0 in 15 minutes Shot 2/4 from 3 in Celts Win
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Sam 3 2 and 1 shot 1/3 in 14 minutes in Celts win
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Dam 3 2 and 1 shot 1/3 in 14 minutes in Celts win
I know some don't like him, but you didn't have to call him that!
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Sam 14 5 and 2 shot 4/7 from 3 in start in Celts win
Correction noted on previous post
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Someone should buy this…and then burn it.
https://theplayerstrunkauction.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=301
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Someone should buy this…and then burn it.
https://theplayerstrunkauction.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=301
Can I bid a negative amount?
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The "current bid" says it all.
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It’s kind of sad he’s selling it. Does he really need $400 that bad?
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Sam 8 1 and 1 shot 2/2 from 3 in 14 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 6 3 and 0 shot 2/2 from 3 in 10 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 3 5 and 0 shot 1/2 from 3 in 21 minutes in Celts win
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In a battle of garbage-time participants as the Celtics crush the Mavericks, OMax outscores Sam 2-0.
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Sam 0 4 and 1 shot 0/3 from 3 in 15 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 12 5 and 0 shot 4/9 from 3 in 19 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 5 5 and 1 shot 1/3 from 3 in 14 minutes in Celts loss
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Sam .6 0 and 1 shot 2/3 from 3 in 10 minutes in Celts loss
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Sam 3 2 and 0 shot 1/4 from 3 in 17 minutes in Celtics win
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Other than Mr Cain does anyone really care how Sam is doing?
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Other than Mr Cain does anyone really care how Sam is doing?
Herman doesn't care either. He's just trolling.
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Sam getting kudos from the coach, for of all things , his defensive play this year
https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2024/03/10/celtics-bench-suns-joe-mazzulla-jaylen-brown-luke-kornet-payton-pritchard-sam-hauser/?amp=1
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Can't believe we have 77 pages on the Hausers and not one on how the royal family is covering up Kate Middleton's botched surgery
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Sam 14 5 and 2 shot 4/11 from 3 in 34 minutes ; started in the Celtics Win over The Jazz
Sam 22 2 and 0 shot 6/10 from 3 in 22 minutes in Celts win over Trailblazers
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I didn't know the Celtics played double-headers.
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Sam 8 4 and 2 shot 2/5 in 22 monutes in Celts win
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sammy's gonna be a daddy, due in september!! congrats at them!!
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Always wuz a good shoota, aina?
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good one doc!!
today sam scored 30 points 1 asst 6 reb 1 steal AND turned his ankle
took him on my fanduel team and he got me 41.7 points on a $4500 salary
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good one doc!!
today sam scored 30 points 1 asst 6 reb 1 steal AND turned his ankle
took him on my fanduel team and he got me 41.7 points on a $4500 salary
30 points to just 1 assist? Cancerous.
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good one doc!!
today sam scored 30 points 1 asst 6 reb 1 steal AND turned his ankle
took him on my fanduel team and he got me 41.7 points on a $4500 salary
Rocket:
Sam shot 10/13 from 3 in 22 minutes in the start. His teammates were pushing for him to break Celtics record of 11 in a game
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sports/sam-hauser-posts-career-bests-004425909.html
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Hellofa playa, aina?
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Hellofa playa, aina?
https://www.celticsblog.com/2024/3/18/24104608/boston-celtics-sam-hauser-washington-wizards-10-threes-nba-history-jayson-tatum-al-horford
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https://nesn.com/2024/03/sam-hauser-injury-latest-report-indicates-good-news-for-celtics/amp/
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https://nesn.com/2024/03/sam-hauser-injury-latest-report-indicates-good-news-for-celtics/amp/
“He’s gonna get convicted of arson.” Good to see SH playing well.
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Sam is a loser.
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Sam was our for Celts game with Bucks. Still nursing ankle injury
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Sam was our for Celts game with Bucks. Still nursing ankle injury
Losers quit when the games gets tough.
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Losers quit when the games gets tough.
this wasn't joeeeee ya know...Sam is cool in my books
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Sam healthy again.
Went 23 5 and 1 shot 7/8 from 3 in 32 minutes in the start in Celts win
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Sam 6 pts on 2-for-10 shooting as Celtics blow 30-point lead in losing to the Hawks.
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Sam 6 5 and 1 with 2 steals and 2 blocks shot 2/10 from 3 in 27 minutes in the start in the Celts loss
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Sam 8 2 and 3 shot 2/4 from 3 in 22 minutes in Celts loss
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Sam 3 3 and 1 shot 1/3 from 3 in 13 minutes in Celts win over Pelicans.
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Sam 25 5 and O shot 7-11 from 3 in 24 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 10 2 and 0 shot 2/5 from 3 in 21 minutes in Celts win
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Sam went 3 7 and 3 and shot 1/13 from 3 . Started and played 36 minutes in Celts win.
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Sam 10 2 and 3 shot 2/4 from 3 in 27 minutes in Celts win
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Sam 8 5 and 2 shot 2/6 from 3 in 28 minutes in Celts loss
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Sam 15 4 and 3 shot 3/5 from 3 in 22 minutes in Celts loss to Knicks
Sam 16 4 and 2 shot 4/13 from 3 in the Start and played 30 Minutes in the Celts win over Charlotte
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Sam 16 5 and 2 shot 4/11 from 3 in the start in 35 minutes in Celts season ending win
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Congratulations to Sam on an overall Excellent Season with The Celts.
Played 22 minutes per game and started in 13 games. Scored 9.5 PPG 3.5 Rebounds and 1 Assist per game. Shot 42.4 % from 3. 89.5 % From the Line.
His coaches frequently stated how they were pleased with Sam's defense.
For advanced stats folks. Sam was 8th in the league in Offensive Rating. 8th in the League in Defensive Rating. Sam was 1st in the NBA in NET Rating with 14.2
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/advanced-leaders
The Celtics have an option on Sam's services next season at the NBA minimum. The question is will The Celtics decline their option, and instead negotiate a longer term contract with Sam. This is the tactic they took after Sams rookie season when it appeared he had promise.
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Congratulations to Sam on an overall Excellent Season with The Celts.
Played 22 minutes per game and started in 13 games. Scored 9.5 PPG 3.5 Rebounds and 1 Assist per game. Shot 42.4 % from 3. 89.5 % From the Line.
His coaches frequently stated how they were pleased with Sam's defense.
For advanced stats folks. Sam was 8th in the league in Offensive Rating. 8th in the League in Defensive Rating. Sam was 1st in the NBA in NET Rating with 14.2
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/advanced-leaders
The Celtics have an option on Sam's services next season at the NBA minimum. The question is will The Celtics decline their option, and instead negotiate a longer term contract with Sam. This is the tactic they took after Sams rookie season when it appeared he had promise.
hey Hermie, unless i'm mistaken, Sam is due to make $2.092 mil next year
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hey Hermie, unless i'm mistaken, Sam is due to make $2.092 mil next year
Rocket:
That is the NBA Minimum for next season for a third year player.
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Given how NBA salaries can get wacky, it’s probably unfortunate for Sam that he’s under contract for next season. He might have been able to make double that or more.
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Rocket:
That is the NBA Minimum for next season for a third year player.
gotcha-thanks! ya'd think the NBA could find it in them to round up at least...$2, 092,354? another $7646 and the accountants job would be a little easier, eyn'a?
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Sam 12 1 1 shot 4/6 from 3 in 13 minutes in Celts game one playoff win