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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 29, 2021, 05:52:10 AM
Those numbers are essentially what he was putting up at Marquette.  I was led to believe that he was much better than that!

More points, more rebounds, better FG% (62% from two), all in fewer minutes. The only major stat lower for him is assists.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

wadesworld

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 29, 2021, 12:11:52 PM
More points, more rebounds, better FG% (62% from two), all in fewer minutes. The only major stat lower for him is assists.

He didn't say they're identical. He said they're basically the same, which they are. Given he had a full year to develop under one of the best coaches in the game, and is playing for a team that is having less success than Marquette was having with Joey, I doubt MSU fans are thrilled with a guy they thought was better than big bro and would be the best player on one of the best teams in the country.

Galway Eagle

Early in the season after the Duke win a Coworker messaged me thanking me for Joey, I don't think she's as happy now
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The Sultan

I'm getting a real "peaked early" vibe from Joey.  I am sure he will improve some, but I doubt we will see drastic improvement from here on out.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: BLM on January 29, 2021, 12:28:18 PM
He didn't say they're identical. He said they're basically the same, which they are. Given he had a full year to develop under one of the best coaches in the game, and is playing for a team that is having less success than Marquette was having with Joey, I doubt MSU fans are thrilled with a guy they thought was better than big bro and would be the best player on one of the best teams in the country.

I also don't think MSU fans expected all but two players on the roster to get COVID. He's still #2 on the team in scoring (behind their top returner) and top rebounder by far. But the obsessed him to fail, so...
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 29, 2021, 12:43:25 PM
I'm getting a real "peaked early" vibe from Joey.  I am sure he will improve some, but I doubt we will see drastic improvement from here on out.

he'll still definitely end up wealthier than most of us were in his 20s whether here or Europe but yeah I agree. In the little I've seen he doesn't seem to have that next step.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

BrewCity83

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 29, 2021, 12:43:25 PM
I'm getting a real "peaked early" vibe from Joey.  I am sure he will improve some, but I doubt we will see drastic improvement from here on out.

Joey peaked at 17.
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rocket surgeon

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 29, 2021, 01:06:30 PM
he'll still definitely end up wealthier than most of us were in his 20s whether here or Europe but yeah I agree. In the little I've seen he doesn't seem to have that next step.

  i believe he still has a way to go yet.  he hasn't put 2 solid seasons together yet
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 29, 2021, 05:01:24 PM
  i believe he still has a way to go yet.  he hasn't put 2 solid seasons together yet

Good point. But then again any 6'10 guy who can put the ball on the floor, stretch it, post up, and rebounds above average will make good money somewhere for sure. He's definitely not the sure fire first rounder that people pegged him to be when he committed that's for sure
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rocket surgeon

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 29, 2021, 05:18:59 PM
Good point. But then again any 6'10 guy who can put the ball on the floor, stretch it, post up, and rebounds above average will make good money somewhere for sure. He's definitely not the sure fire first rounder that people pegged him to be when he committed that's for sure

  point well taken & i love to see "local boy does good" stories.  if joey could suddenly play with a rodgers-like chip on his shoulder, ya never know.  he's got some serious work to do on his quickness(lack there of) and lateral movement.  he's no doubt, a shooter and a ball handler.  2 of the things he was relied upon for most of the teams he played on...until college.  he found that he could get away with the lack of stuff...until now.  let's call it the henry syndrome

   you know who's freaking me out that i didn't see coming at all? 

    playing(and STARTING) for one of the elite programs in the country, going pro after one year, becoming a first round NBA pick AND doing quite well at the highest level mind you.

   ya'll know who i'm talking about too
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wadesworld

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 29, 2021, 12:45:21 PM
I also don't think MSU fans expected all but two players on the roster to get COVID. He's still #2 on the team in scoring (behind their top returner) and top rebounder by far. But the obsessed him to fail, so...

Because they were really killing it before their covid shutdown.

tower912

Sparty fan to me this morning at shift change.    "The whole team is lousy, but you can have Joey back."
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Big East

Sam and the Cavs had their first loss in league play tonight on the road against against a strong VA Tech squad. Sam with 10 -5 -1 stat line.

MuggsyB

Quote from: The Big East on January 30, 2021, 07:29:27 PM
Sam and the Cavs had their first loss in league play tonight on the road against against a strong VA Tech squad. Sam with 10 -5 -1 stat line.

H and H are good college players but I don't see then playing NBA ball.  They might get a cup of coffee but that's about it.

The Big East

Joey 10 9 and 3 in The Spartans loss to Iowa tonight.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Big East on February 02, 2021, 08:59:28 PM
Joey 10 9 and 3 in The Spartans loss to Iowa tonight.

Great line for a one and done.  LOL

MU24

He made this big fuss about not getting enough touches and he goes to an arguably better program in MSU and has been stinking it up. Makes no sense. Then again, he is a kid.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MU24 on February 03, 2021, 02:34:38 PM
He made this big fuss about not getting enough touches and he goes to an arguably better program in MSU and has been stinking it up. Makes no sense. Then again, he is a kid.

Can't blame him when he has probably been told he is a basketball God his entire life by everyone around him. 

The Sultan

Quote from: MU24 on February 03, 2021, 02:34:38 PM
He made this big fuss about not getting enough touches and he goes to an arguably better program in MSU and has been stinking it up. Makes no sense. Then again, he is a kid.


Is he "stinking it up?"  There is an argument that he peaked early and isn't going to ultimately what we thought he would be as a high school player, but he's not playing poor by any means.
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The Big East

Sam 23 6 and 1 in the Cavs win over Pete. Another strong 3 point game for Sam going 3/4 from distance

tower912

My whole opinion of Joey has changed.    Watching him ask Izzo "What do you want me to do?" after another turnover made me feel for him.    Also, after his latest buzz cut, it turns out he has a bald spot.     Lots of sympathy.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Big East

Quote from: tower912 on February 06, 2021, 07:39:01 PM
My whole opinion of Joey has changed.    Watching him ask Izzo "What do you want me to do?" after another turnover made me feel for him.    Also, after his latest buzz cut, it turns out he has a bald spot.     Lots of sympathy.
Announcers talking in-depth about Joeys zero point game in the Spartans win over Nebraska

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