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Title: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 15, 2021, 10:01:43 PM
Strong inside sources say wojo is gone with the killings departure (only piece keeping the program with a pulse).   

Its coming folks.  Finally. 
Perhaps a wealthy alum offered to soften the blow of the buyout.   
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: We R Final Four on March 15, 2021, 10:03:14 PM
I’ve heard similar things today, as well.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JWags85 on March 15, 2021, 10:06:04 PM
This vague rumor mill will get me excited for inevitable disappointment just as effectively as the Wilson to Bears rumors.  An 8th year for Wojo and Andy Dalton leading the 2021 Bears to 6-10.  Huzzah!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 15, 2021, 10:06:51 PM
As much as this is music to my ears i am not the source of the info and it comes from a homer level supporter
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: CrowdOf5 on March 15, 2021, 10:06:57 PM
Sy tweets, may mean something may mean nothing.

https://twitter.com/syboogie10/status/1371657473636057093?s=21
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 15, 2021, 10:12:11 PM
Don't give me hope.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MUfan12 on March 15, 2021, 10:12:56 PM
Strong inside sources say wojo is gone with the killings departure (only piece keeping the program with a pulse).   

Trying to see the connection here, because having an assistant get a head coaching job usually reflects well on the coach that hired him.

I hope you're right, but I'll be surprised if they can him.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 15, 2021, 10:14:11 PM
He was a fantastic recruiter as far as getting the guys they targeted.   Head coaching was the bottle neck
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 15, 2021, 10:16:07 PM
April Fools is still two weeks away so there is hope.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: cheebs09 on March 15, 2021, 10:18:09 PM
Trying to see the connection here, because having an assistant get a head coaching job usually reflects well on the coach that hired him.

I hope you're right, but I'll be surprised if they can him.

That’s odd. I could see people saying he was jumping ship since it was thought Wojo was on the way out. If an AC is holding it all together, that’s not a great sign.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MUfan12 on March 15, 2021, 10:19:42 PM
If an AC is holding it all together, that’s not a great sign.

Wouldn't be the first time.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 15, 2021, 10:22:57 PM
I don't think the decision has been made yet but if I was a betting man I would say he's here next season.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: cheebs09 on March 15, 2021, 10:23:13 PM
Wouldn't be the first time.

That’s fair. If they were to do it, I wouldn’t be surprised if they waited for the women’s team to have their day to shine before firing Wojo.

Also, Torrence is from the Syracuse area, I wouldn’t read too much into his tweets from a Wojo perspective. I wouldn’t be shocked if he followed Killings.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 15, 2021, 10:24:31 PM
Perhaps killings tried to pull the et tu brutae move and the AD just didnt feel like he was the one so he bounced.   

Im quite sure the current roster would have been more than ok with killings taking over
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 15, 2021, 10:25:44 PM
If Sy leaves, I wish him luck.  Good kid, seemed like a hard worker, just didn’t work out for him at MU.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Johnny B on March 15, 2021, 10:26:03 PM
to bad its bs
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: CountryRoads on March 15, 2021, 10:26:12 PM
I don't think the decision has been made yet but if I was a betting man I would say he's here next season.

How long can they afford to kick the tires before they make a decision? 4 high major jobs opened today and the good candidates are going to get scooped up before long.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Farley36 on March 15, 2021, 10:28:11 PM
As much as Wojo should be fired, I have no faith in the leadership at MU to pull the trigger.   The fanbase overall is perfectly content with Wojo and Covid can be used as the latest excuse.  MU leadership is feeling no heat to ditch Wojo right now sadly.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 15, 2021, 10:33:53 PM
How long can they afford to kick the tires before they make a decision? 4 high major jobs opened today and the good candidates are going to get scooped up before long.

The first two high major hires were underwhelming. Indiana and DePaul will be swimming in different ponds than Marquette. Iowa State I think has someone in mind already. I think Minnesota is the only one that could beat us to a candidate we want.

But if they do make a move, I would hope it is soon. I don't think Killings has anything to do with it. I think the general consensus has been that he would get a HC job after this season for awhile now.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 15, 2021, 10:42:10 PM
Would love to see it. This feels like a pivotal season and I don't want another year of apathy.

Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 15, 2021, 10:45:05 PM
How long can they afford to kick the tires before they make a decision? 4 high major jobs opened today and the good candidates are going to get scooped up before long.

here's a hint.  They're not kicking any tires. So...a long time I guess.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: CountryRoads on March 15, 2021, 10:46:34 PM
Sy tweets, may mean something may mean nothing.

https://twitter.com/syboogie10/status/1371657473636057093?s=21

He should go play for Killings at Albany. He’ll have more fun and get some good PT and will have a chance at the tourney a few times. Think about it...we are all sitting here with nothing to look forward to for 9 months and Traci Carter is preparing for an NCAA tournament game.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 5DollarPitcher on March 15, 2021, 10:47:51 PM
Didn’t we get caught with our pants down when Buzz left? Which kind of put us in a position to end up with Wojo? Would be nice if the admin demonstrated some competency this time around. But, the inmates run the asylum at MU lately and you can expect Wojo to leave on Wojo’s terms, regardless of how f’d that makes us in our search.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 15, 2021, 10:48:51 PM
How long can they afford to kick the tires before they make a decision? 4 high major jobs opened today and the good candidates are going to get scooped up before long.

If MU is considering moving on from Wojo, they're likely already working on lining up his replacement. They don't need to publicly announce anything to do that.

My guess is that if there's going to be a change - and that's a big IF, IMO - it would only happen if/when they're confident they've got their guy. They're not going to fire their coach and bumble through a weeks long  search and get publicly rejectedby a couple of targets, a la St. John's a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: CountryRoads on March 15, 2021, 10:49:53 PM
If MU is considering moving on from Wojo, they're likely already working on lining up his replacement. They don't need to publicly announce anything to do that.

My guess is that if there's going to be a change - and that's a big IF, IMO - it would only happen if/when they're confident they've got their guy. They're not going to fire their coach and bumble through a weeks long  search and get publicly rejectedby a couple of targets, a la St. John's a couple of years ago.

Good point.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 15, 2021, 11:00:23 PM
If MU is considering moving on from Wojo, they're likely already working on lining up his replacement. They don't need to publicly announce anything to do that.

My guess is that if there's going to be a change - and that's a big IF, IMO - it would only happen if/when they're confident they've got their guy. They're not going to fire their coach and bumble through a weeks long  search and get publicly rejectedby a couple of targets, a la St. John's a couple of years ago.

Or our very own #donedeal fiasco.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 15, 2021, 11:32:05 PM
Can’t wait to say “I told you so”

What’s the flight tracker up to nowadays?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 15, 2021, 11:39:37 PM
He should go play for Killings at Albany. He’ll have more fun and get some good PT and will have a chance at the tourney a few times. Think about it...we are all sitting here with nothing to look forward to for 9 months and Traci Carter is preparing for an NCAA tournament game.

Damn, isn't Carter like 35 years old by now?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JWags85 on March 15, 2021, 11:56:55 PM
Damn, isn't Carter like 35 years old by now?

He’ll be 25 in June. So basically the age of a true freshman for the Badgers
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 15, 2021, 11:59:50 PM
UNC was a genius move on wojos part.  Brilliant
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 79Warrior on March 16, 2021, 12:31:26 AM

I am actually quite surprised by this but there is serious discussion taking place. Some money is lining up. Very interesting.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2021, 12:53:58 AM
I am actually quite surprised by this but there is serious discussion taking place. Some money is lining up. Very interesting.

31 flavors? Or some other rumor source,
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Herman Cain on March 16, 2021, 05:46:34 AM
Pitino wants to turn Iona into the Gonzaga of the East Coast
https://nypost.com/2021/03/13/rick-pitino-iona-win-maac-to-reach-march-madness-2021/
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: willie warrior on March 16, 2021, 05:56:57 AM
I don't think the decision has been made yet but if I was a betting man I would say he's here next season.
depth.
Slurping toward nirvana.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2021, 06:00:26 AM
depth.
Slurping toward nirvana.

Your fascination with slurping and heads up asses fascinates me
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 16, 2021, 06:11:22 AM
Pitino wants to turn Iona into the Gonzaga of the East Coast
https://nypost.com/2021/03/13/rick-pitino-iona-win-maac-to-reach-march-madness-2021/

He’ll leave for the first high major who offers.  Hopefully that’s Marquette.  I think he could have 5-6 years left on the sideline.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 06:26:55 AM
Can’t wait to say “I told you so”

I can't wait for it either, my friend! Here's hoping!!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Marq2003 on March 16, 2021, 06:29:45 AM
He’ll leave for the first high major who offers.  Hopefully that’s Marquette.  I think he could have 5-6 years left on the sideline.

I can't see Pitino's past fitting in real well with the school's mission.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 16, 2021, 06:35:18 AM
I can't see Pitino's past fitting in real well with the school's mission.

We’ll never get Matta or Beilein or Oats, but we could get Pitino.  If we don’t, someone else will, though I agree that it’s probably a long shot.

Guy sure is one hell of a college basketball coach.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2021, 06:36:36 AM
Pitino is everything I want in a coach on the floor.   It is my opinion that his baggage is too much for Marquette to carry.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 16, 2021, 06:43:32 AM
depth.
Slurping toward nirvana.

(https://knilt.arcc.albany.edu/images/6/6e/1-1-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 16, 2021, 06:51:03 AM
Pitino is everything I want in a coach I. The floor.   It is my opinion that his baggage is too much for Marquette to carry.

Lots of coaches have baggage, though.  Calipari.  Roy Williams with the fake classes.  Kelvin Sampson.  Bruce Pearl.  And yet these guys keep on coaching, and winning.  And when they win, people kind of just forget about that baggage, and it’s only brought up by jealous fans of other teams.

We’ve had a choir boy for seven years.  It’s time for MU to take a dump on his forehead and send him packing, and get a real coach in here who knows what he’s doing.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 16, 2021, 06:55:29 AM
Pitino is everything I want in a coach I. The floor.   It is my opinion that his baggage is too much for Marquette to carry.

We are a point where baggage might need to be overlooked for a little bit.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: cheebs09 on March 16, 2021, 06:56:00 AM
Pitino is everything I want in a coach I. The floor.   It is my opinion that his baggage is too much for Marquette to carry.

The exact opposite of Wojo. I would be shocked if this administration hired Pitino.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 16, 2021, 06:56:08 AM
For an alumni base that likes to dump on ND for acting better than everyone, we sure seem to like to act better than everyone. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Viper on March 16, 2021, 07:19:16 AM
I can't see Pitino's past fitting in real well with the school's mission.
admittedly I’m making an assumption, but i doubt Marquette’s ‘mission’ is all that different from what Iona would state is theirs. Iona has a great coach, hopefully humbled by past transgressions. Iona in a FF in another two years would not surprise me in the least.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 16, 2021, 07:31:59 AM
Rumors are that Iowa State wants TJO.  I wonder if that is spurring some action among the people who could fund a buyout because IMO he would be a GREAT fit for a number of reasons.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 16, 2021, 07:44:50 AM
People have said on here that one game doesn’t determine a coach’s employment status, but I feel like that Georgetown game was the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 16, 2021, 07:45:38 AM
People have said on here that one game doesn’t determine a coach’s employment status, but I feel like that Georgetown game was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

Also considering how Georgetown went on to win the BET too.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 16, 2021, 07:45:44 AM
Rumors are that Iowa State wants TJO.  I wonder if that is spurring some action among the people who could fund a buyout because IMO he would be a GREAT fit for a number of reasons.

He’s an interesting name and one I personally really like. This season was underwhelming at UNLV, but otherwise he’s been rock solid with a bunch of different HC and AC stops. He also has strong ties to the area which may create some more loyalty.

Or TJO goes to Iowa State and Wojo to UNLV. His name was briefly floated to UNLV a couple years ago?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2021, 07:58:56 AM
He’s an interesting name and one I personally really like. This season was underwhelming at UNLV, but otherwise he’s been rock solid with a bunch of different HC and AC stops. He also has strong ties to the area which may create some more loyalty.

Or TJO goes to Iowa State and Wojo to UNLV. His name was briefly floated to UNLV a couple years ago?

Having run in the same circles as TJO in another lifetime, I can say he’s good at organizing softball teams
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 16, 2021, 08:03:04 AM
Pitino is everything I want in a coach on the floor.   It is my opinion that his baggage is too much for Marquette to carry.

I'd normally agree but given the situation the bball program is in they need wins. Pitino would rebound the program to the top real quick and as long as we don't have major issues we'd be in a good spot to go choir boy (ideally successfully this time) for the next hire
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 16, 2021, 08:06:08 AM
One very good thing about Pitino is that he is a big fan of our history and understands that MU is a basketball school. If they let Wojo go, Rick should be the the #1 focus. He has another run in him and can flat out coach. He would provide an awfully exciting 4-5 years and this guy would not miss a game.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 16, 2021, 08:07:13 AM
Having run in the same circles as TJO in another lifetime, I can say he’s good at organizing softball teams

Leaders are leaders in all walks of life!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 16, 2021, 08:08:52 AM
One very good thing about Pitino is that he is a big fan of our history and understands that MU is a basketball school. If they let Wojo go, Rick should be the the #1 focus. He has another run in him and can flat out coach. He would provide an awfully exciting 4-5 years and this guy would not miss a game.

+1
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 16, 2021, 08:22:27 AM
One very good thing about Pitino is that he is a big fan of our history and understands that MU is a basketball school. If they let Wojo go, Rick should be the the #1 focus. He has another run in him and can flat out coach. He would provide an awfully exciting 4-5 years and this guy would not miss a game.

Broke all the 10 Commandments. Check

Perfect fit for MU!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: hairy worthen on March 16, 2021, 08:23:49 AM
One very good thing about Pitino is that he is a big fan of our history and understands that MU is a basketball school. If they let Wojo go, Rick should be the the #1 focus. He has another run in him and can flat out coach. He would provide an awfully exciting 4-5 years and this guy would not miss a game.
I agree with you. I am not a fan of Pitino’s past transgressions, but have always been a fan of him as a coach when he wasn’t coaching against Marquette. He would be successful at MU. The question is can Marquette stomach the negative image that comes along with Pitino
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MDMU04 on March 16, 2021, 08:24:30 AM
Broke all the 10 Commandments. Check

Perfect fit for MU!

Would you sell your soul to win a NC?  Because that would be the only reason to make that hire.  It's an interesting question.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: swoopem on March 16, 2021, 08:27:28 AM
Absolutely LOVE hearing these rumors and hope that they’re true

A little worried if they’re finally acting just cuz they’re nervous they might lose TJO to Iowa St.

There’s a lot of calls you make before you get to TJO
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 16, 2021, 08:29:35 AM
Would you sell your soul to win a NC?  Because that would be the only reason to make that hire.  It's an interesting question.

Or different perspective, do you forgive someone who's sinned before to win a national championship?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MUCam on March 16, 2021, 08:34:55 AM
Or different perspective, do you forgive someone who's sinned before to win a national championship?

Funny, I was going to say, I thought forgiveness was one of the fundamental pillars, if not the cornerstone of Christian faith.

Which is why I will ask for forgiveness for adulterating that beautiful pillar of Christian faith as a selfish means to a National Championship.

Give me a repentant Pitino and a Final Four! Or, Beilein. Much less forgiving necessary. Many fewer stones to throw.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 16, 2021, 08:35:14 AM
Absolutely LOVE hearing these rumors and hope that they’re true

A little worried if they’re finally acting just cuz they’re nervous they might lose TJO to Iowa St.

There’s a lot of calls you make before you get to TJO

I agree. But he is a better fit than most.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Warrior_2002 on March 16, 2021, 08:35:33 AM
Or different perspective, do you forgive someone who's sinned before to win a national championship?

That’s an interesting question.  I’d assume there was some remorse but maybe only because he got caught.  Never looked into his beg for mercy if there was one.  Not that he’s make that public.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 16, 2021, 08:37:03 AM
Does anybody really think Louisville regrets hiring Pitino, despite forfeiting a national championship, despite the affair/extortion, despite the Adidas controversy, etc.?

Absolutely not.  In strong part due to Pitino, and the rehiring of another questionable character in Bobby Petrino, Louisville and Tom Jurich capitalized on athletics success and turned that into an invitation from the ACC.

Louisville didn't get invited for its academics.  Without the athletic success, Louisville could still be left behind playing in the AAC.  There is zero regret and, if given the chance, would do it over again without hesitation.

Now, we aren't Louisville.  I could see Marquette making a run at Pitino in 2001, if Crean failed miserably or if he had immediate success into another job.  But definitely not now in 2021.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2021, 08:37:26 AM
This thread is something.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 16, 2021, 08:38:18 AM
Or different perspective, do you forgive someone who's sinned before to win a national championship?

I’m pretty much in 100% agreement with everything you and Goose have said on this subject.  We need someone who can turn things around quickly and, like you said, we can hire a new guy in 5 years when Pitino retires.  If there’s one person who would pretty much be guaranteed to make MU relevant again, it’s Pitino.

And like Goose said, Pitino understands MU’s place in college bball history, and had many good battles with us at Louisville where he saw firsthand how passionate our fan base is.  I don’t think Wojo, with his Duke ties, ever really got it.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 16, 2021, 08:39:03 AM
My guess is that Louisville regrets firing Pitino more than they regret hiring him.  Will Wade, Bruce Pearl, Sean Miller....all continue to coach basketball.

That being said, I would be squemish about a Pitino hiring and I doubt there is any interest from the MU administration.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: naginiF on March 16, 2021, 08:44:28 AM
I'd normally agree but given the situation the bball program is in they need wins. Pitino would rebound the program to the top real quick and as long as we don't have major issues we'd be in a good spot to go choir boy (ideally successfully this time) for the next hire
No question on his managing a program that would win on the court. Where do you draw the line on "major issues" off the court?
- Recruiting violations? cash/gifts/sex
- Player issues with drugs?
- Player issues with campus police? MKE police?

Creating an environment where staff and players know they will be held accountable and are expected to do the right thing is a skill. One that I don't think he's shown that he has.

Basically what you are hoping for is 4-5 years of "make it a winner" and get out before the feds come. That is a pretty fine line to walk and one the institution has shown it doesn't have the stomach for.


Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2021, 08:46:49 AM
I would be in complete shock if we go after Pitino.  Obviously he's an all-time great coach but the administration won't forgive his sins/baggage.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: withoutbias on March 16, 2021, 08:47:21 AM
Let's worry about firing Wojo before we worry about hiring Pitino.  I mean, yesterday we were at "the administration LOVES Wojo and does not care about wins and losses."  We're going from that to "The administration is firing Wojo to bring in Pitino?"

Call me skeptical.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 08:49:16 AM
We’ve had a choir boy for seven years.  It’s time for MU to take a dump on his forehead and send him packing, and get a real coach in here who knows what he’s doing.

Would simply firing Wojo be OK for you, or will it be considered an epic failure on their part if they don't also take a dump on his head?

One very good thing about Pitino is that he is a big fan of our history and understands that MU is a basketball school. If they let Wojo go, Rick should be the the #1 focus. He has another run in him and can flat out coach. He would provide an awfully exciting 4-5 years and this guy would not miss a game.

Goose, I would hire Pitino in a second. He's the closest thing college basketball has had to Al in the last 30+ years. Turn the program over to him with direct orders that there will be no strippers or hookers, that he can't schtup anybody involved with Marquette (including nuns and priests), that he can't cheat at recruiting (much), and that he can't hire his son as an assistant. Otherwise, the program is his.

He can get us back to the Final Four and then he can help pick his replacement when he's ready to retire (as long as it isn't L'il Rickie).

I am serious about hiring Pitino. The other stuff is just a few flourishes!

This thread is something.

Indeed. Something else.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: nyg on March 16, 2021, 08:49:47 AM
This thread is something.

Yup. Let me know when the "insider" information and the dismissal/leaving actually happens. Speculation talk of new coach at this time is fun to read though.  Some pure insanity. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 16, 2021, 08:52:15 AM
Having run in the same circles as TJO in another lifetime, I can say he’s good at organizing softball teams

Noon ball or Th night beer league softball.  I know which I prefer.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 16, 2021, 08:54:14 AM
Or different perspective, do you forgive someone who's sinned before to win a national championship?

It has nothing to do with forgiveness. It's about the kind of program the university wants. And I venture to guess the university doesn't want the kind of program that pays players' parents or hooks up recruits with strippers. And that's who Pitino is. It's who he's always been and he's not going to magically change the way he's operated for 40+ years.
As for winning a national championship, Rick has more NCAA major violations in the past 25 years than titles.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 16, 2021, 08:55:03 AM
MU82

Spot on about Rick. It would put MU on the map in two seconds and it would be an exciting era of MU ball.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: naginiF on March 16, 2021, 08:55:10 AM
My guess is that Louisville regrets firing Pitino more than they regret hiring him.  Will Wade, Bruce Pearl, Sean Miller....all continue to coach basketball.

That being said, I would be squemish about a Pitino hiring and I doubt there is any interest from the MU administration.
Years ago I sat next to a gentleman on a plane from Louisville to Miami who was wearing a Louisville booster pin. When I joked that we may not get along he said "We actually like Marquette. You are a fine academic institution that happens to play really good basketball. We are an athletic organization that happens to have some academics attached". I think that sums up the positioning pretty well.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Eye on March 16, 2021, 08:58:58 AM
My guess is that Louisville regrets firing Pitino more than they regret hiring him.  Will Wade, Bruce Pearl, Sean Miller....all continue to coach basketball.

That being said, I would be squemish about a Pitino hiring and I doubt there is any interest from the MU administration.

Best friend is a UL fan who I've been to nearly every MU - UL game with since '96. He's trade Mack for Pitino right now no questions asked.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 16, 2021, 08:59:19 AM
No question on his managing a program that would win on the court. Where do you draw the line on "major issues" off the court?
- Recruiting violations? cash/gifts/sex
- Player issues with drugs?
- Player issues with campus police? MKE police?

Creating an environment where staff and players know they will be held accountable and are expected to do the right thing is a skill. One that I don't think he's shown that he has.

Basically what you are hoping for is 4-5 years of "make it a winner" and get out before the feds come. That is a pretty fine line to walk and one the institution has shown it doesn't have the stomach for.

Drugs I don't care about. In a different life era I've seen more than a couple MU players smoke weed.

Cash gifts shouldn't be as big of a deal with NIL.

Sex? I mean having it? paying for it? Paying for it for recruits and their parents? That's a broad question

I'd pretty much say don't steal from other students, keep what's in the bedroom consensual, to people of age, and in the bedroom.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 16, 2021, 09:06:19 AM
Goose, I would hire Pitino in a second. He's the closest thing college basketball has had to Al in the last 30+ years. Turn the program over to him with direct orders that there will be no strippers or hookers, that he can't schtup anybody involved with Marquette (including nuns and priests), that he can't cheat at recruiting (much), and that he can't hire his son as an assistant. Otherwise, the program is his.

Have you read "The Scorpion and the Frog"?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 09:10:51 AM
MU82

Spot on about Rick. It would put MU on the map in two seconds and it would be an exciting era of MU ball.

Don't know about the others, but you and I are deadly serious here.

It has 0.001% chance of happening ... but girls can dream, right?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: SWARM! on March 16, 2021, 09:11:20 AM
I would buy season tickets tomorrow if they brought in Pitino. Talk about completely reinventing your languishing program and getting back to what Marquette basketball should look like on the floor (speaking about more than results - swagger, intensity, intimidation).

Chances gotta be greater than zero, no?  Eh, probably not.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 09:12:39 AM
Have you read "The Scorpion and the Frog"?

No sir.


Sex? I mean having it? paying for it? Paying for it for recruits and their parents? That's a broad question


Leeve da broads outta dis, oona?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: naginiF on March 16, 2021, 09:14:37 AM
Drugs I don't care about. In a different life era I've seen more than a couple MU players smoke weed.

Cash gifts shouldn't be as big of a deal with NIL.

Sex? I mean having it? paying for it? Paying for it for recruits and their parents? That's a broad question

I'd pretty much say don't steal from other students, keep what's in the bedroom consensual, to people of age, and in the bedroom.
I'm talking about all of the things that have been a part of Petino's past programs that are current NCAA violations.....cash for commitment/consideration, paying for recruits to have sex, etc.)

Not consensual premarital sex (though according to the Lovell thread there would be some opposition here to that), not NIL, etc.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 16, 2021, 09:16:58 AM
No sir.

You should. It's germane.
https://www.bedtimeshortstories.com/the-scorpion-and-the-frog
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on March 16, 2021, 09:17:05 AM
For an alumni base that likes to dump on ND for acting better than everyone, we sure seem to like to act better than everyone.

+1,000 we need to be honest with who we are, and what the Marquette Culture truly is. There seems to be ALOT of people on this board that still subscribe to the Larry Williams (convert MU to ND) model.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 16, 2021, 09:19:30 AM
Noon ball or Th night beer league softball.  I know which I prefer.


Noontime drinker, eh?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 16, 2021, 09:20:22 AM
I agree with you. I am not a fan of Pitino’s past transgressions, but have always been a fan of him as a coach when he wasn’t coaching against Marquette. He would be successful at MU. The question is can Marquette stomach the negative image that comes along with Pitino

I'm going to go out on a limb here and answer, "No."  I'm personally conflicted, but I can't imagine the administration would do it.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 16, 2021, 09:21:30 AM
MU82

MU very likely would never look at, or hire, Rick Pitino and I think that would be a mistake. While I believe the odds of MU hiring Rick are correct, I am going to dream a little today. I miss "real" March basketball and I have always loved Rick's style of play. I have noted on here many, many times that he, and his style of play, are the closet thing to Al in the last thirty years.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 16, 2021, 09:24:13 AM
I'd be shocked if Marquette fired Wojo.  But I hope to be shocked.  Some major cart before horse stuff going on in here tho. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: jficke13 on March 16, 2021, 09:28:04 AM
I would love watching Rick's style of ball in blue and gold, I will, however, be very surprised if Wojo is fired, and stunned if we hired Pitino. I'm gonna file this one under "internet hysteria" until I start seeing press releases.

Too bad we can't take Pitino the coaching philosophy and cram him into the body of someone with less of a lifetime's demonstrated track record of being... uh... Pitino.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 16, 2021, 09:30:39 AM
MU82

Spot on about Rick. It would put MU on the map in two seconds and it would be an exciting era of MU ball.

My honest statement of how I'd react if Marquette hired Pitino: I would publicly bemoan that Marquette had sold its soul for some basketball success...while hiding my excitement that the team was on its way back to respectability. I'm not proud of this, but it's true.

For the record, I think Marquette is almost as likely to hire me to coach MBB as it is to hire Pitino.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JWags85 on March 16, 2021, 09:32:44 AM
I'd be shocked if Marquette fired Wojo.  But I hope to be shocked.  Some major cart before horse stuff going on in here tho.

Cart before the horse? Sure. But at least it’s hopeful positive chatter. The alternative is more apathy. We know what we have, we’ve seen 7 years of it.  The program just lost its top assistant.  Nobody is entering the program going into next year that would make anymore of a splash than the McD AA and former top 30 PG they added this year when the team finished under .500.

I’ll take hopeful and optimistic talk based on semi-spurious rumors as opposed to more bemoaning what the program has become and likely will be for another season
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on March 16, 2021, 09:36:59 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and answer, "No."  I'm personally conflicted, but I can't imagine the administration would do it.

As for stomaching Pitino’s past, I would hope that is not their lone calculus.
The better question is, “Can we stomach mediocrity eventually slipping into irrelevance?” The answer should be clear and simple: NO WE CANNOT.

I personally think Wojo can still get the job done here. [stones thrown-shield up] However, it is making the WRONG hire going forward which will banish us into sustained irrelevance.

Choosing Pitino &/or Baldwin would state that the university still values basketball success. Choose Baldwin, and you don’t have to worry about the squirminess.

MU82, I wouldn’t underestimate Pitino’s lobbying skills. I also wouldn’t underestimate our administration’s willingness to listen.

Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: fjm on March 16, 2021, 09:37:23 AM
Pitino would be fun.

But Wojo is still the coach.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on March 16, 2021, 09:37:51 AM
Cart before the horse? Sure. But at least it’s hopeful positive chatter. The alternative is more apathy. We know what we have, we’ve seen 7 years of it.  The program just lost its top assistant.  Nobody is entering the program going into next year that would make anymore of a splash than the McD AA and former top 30 PG they added this year when the team finished under .500.

I’ll take hopeful and optimistic talk based on semi-spurious rumors as opposed to more bemoaning what the program has become and likely will be for another season

Yep
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 16, 2021, 09:38:32 AM
Cart before the horse? Sure. But at least it’s hopeful positive chatter. The alternative is more apathy. We know what we have, we’ve seen 7 years of it.  The program just lost its top assistant.  Nobody is entering the program going into next year that would make anymore of a splash than the McD AA and former top 30 PG they added this year when the team finished under .500.

I’ll take hopeful and optimistic talk based on semi-spurious rumors as opposed to more bemoaning what the program has become and likely will be for another season

Sure.  But Marquette probably isn't going to fire Wojo, soooooooo. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 09:41:28 AM
MU82, I wouldn’t underestimate Pitino’s lobbying skills. I also wouldn’t underestimate our administration’s willingness to listen.

Sounds like you are more in the know about how the administration thinks than I am, so I hope you're right.

I obviously agree about Pitino's lobbying skills. Strikes me as the kind of guy who could sell mink coats to PETA.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 16, 2021, 09:42:00 AM
Wojo is 100% back. book it. move along
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 16, 2021, 09:43:30 AM
Jesum Crow people. Pitino ran a brothel for his players. He will never be our coach.

All you are doing is setting yourselves up to be upset when either a) Wojo is retained or b) Wojo is fired and we don't even look up Pitino's phone number. At least find some reasonable possibilities to be disappointed about.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 16, 2021, 09:44:20 AM
Marquette would hire Richard Pitino before Rick.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 09:44:35 AM
Ya know things are bad when the only thing that can give Scoopers hope these days is an interwebs rumor about the coach getting fired.

Or better yet (fingers crossed), the administration taking a dump on the coach's forehead!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 09:46:03 AM
Jesum Crow people. Pitino ran a brothel for his players. He will never be our coach.

All you are doing is setting yourselves up to be upset when either a) Wojo is retained or b) Wojo is fired and we don't even look up Pitino's phone number. At least find some reasonable possibilities to be disappointed about.

brothel schmothel ... kidz gotta lurn abowt da burdz an' da beez sumtyme, oona?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on March 16, 2021, 09:47:15 AM
Sounds like you are more in the know about how the administration thinks than I am, so I hope you're right.

I obviously agree about Pitino's lobbying skills. Strikes me as the kind of guy who could sell mink coats to PETA.

I wish I was in the know. Just feel that this board often too quickly dismisses the MO of our administration. Like you, they are highly successful people. They’re not stupid. I would have to believe if a HOF coach sent out his feelers (oops bad analogy 😑 😂), they would look at what his hiring would mean, even at the very start for season ticket sales and the bottom line, and hear him out.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2021, 09:48:21 AM
I'd normally take this with a little grain of salt, but the OP on this thread is known for...well, sh*tposting.

Sounds like trolling to get the troops riled up.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 16, 2021, 09:50:03 AM
I doubt it has any chance of happening, but IF MU approaches Pitino, they would have to make some very clear conditions.

The most important, of course, would be that he burn the whiteout suit he wore a few years back.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: jficke13 on March 16, 2021, 09:52:14 AM
Jesum Crow people. Pitino ran a brothel for his players. He will never be our coach.

All you are doing is setting yourselves up to be upset when either a) Wojo is retained or b) Wojo is fired and we don't even look up Pitino's phone number. At least find some reasonable possibilities to be disappointed about.

lol, yup. a thousand times this
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 16, 2021, 09:52:35 AM
I'd normally take this with a little grain of salt, but the OP on this thread is known for...well, sh*tposting.

Sounds like trolling to get the troops riled up.

Thanks-Was wondering about the original post and how much of this tied back to the joke post posing as Rothstein yesterday. I do think the Killings news is pretty brutal regardless and would worry about its impact on current players/recruits more than anything. If theres actually anything here no complaints from me but I highly doubt there would be no smoke at all from the media.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on March 16, 2021, 09:53:25 AM
I'd normally take this with a little grain of salt, but the OP on this thread is known for...well, sh*tposting.

Sounds like trolling to get the troops riled up.

🤣

Anyone have the GIF of the cat “$h#t-posting”?
Just triggered a non-stop laugh here.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: StillWarriors on March 16, 2021, 09:54:19 AM
We’ll never get Matta or Beilein or Oats, but we could get Pitino.  If we don’t, someone else will, though I agree that it’s probably a long shot.

Guy sure is one hell of a college basketball coach.

Agree he is a hell of a coach; beyond that, gross and no thank you.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 16, 2021, 09:56:16 AM
Everyone is obsessed with Pitino-You could go to any college board right now with a coach underachieving and/or one who just had their coach fired and youd see posts identical to this. Lets get back on track on the rumor-if its even remotely anything....firing Wojo is more important to me than Quick Rick
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 16, 2021, 10:02:23 AM
If Sy leaves, I wish him luck.  Good kid, seemed like a hard worker, just didn’t work out for him at MU.

He gone, his lead recruiter getting a job in his home state, 2.5 hr drive, gone baby gone

Hopefully Lewis stays
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: nyg on March 16, 2021, 10:03:32 AM
Got to admit, this and other thread have been great reads in past few days.  Just insanity and here are my favorites so far:

MU has to hire a black coach because majority of players are black.
Rick Pitino to MU
Further discussion of Rick Pitino to MU, even though posters say its not going to happen
Iona going to Final Four in two years.
UWM coach Baldwin would elevate the MU program to new levels

Keep it going, maybe Mark Few needs a change of scenery.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 16, 2021, 10:05:24 AM
He gone, his lead recruiter getting a job in his home state, 2.5 hr drive, gone baby gone

Hopefully Lewis stays

I thought Lewis was actually recruited by Wojo? I remember them asking him about Wojo's impact being a Baltimore HS hoops legend during the recruitment.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 16, 2021, 10:07:48 AM
Got to admit, this and other thread have been great reads in past few days.  Just insanity and here are my favorites so far:

MU has to hire a black coach because majority of players are black.
Rick Pitino to MU
Further discussion of Rick Pitino to MU, even though posters say its not going to happen
Iona going to Final Four in two years.
UWM coach Baldwin would elevate the MU program to new levels

Keep it going, maybe Mark Few needs a change of scenery.

Pfft ... Few has zero Nattys and only one Final Four in 20+ seasons. Stop setting the bar for MU so low.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 16, 2021, 10:09:41 AM
I thought Lewis was actually recruited by Wojo? I remember them asking him about Wojo's impact being a Baltimore HS hoops legend during the recruitment.

Killings did the most work on Lewis but Wojo was heavily involved, more involved than he is with most recruits.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: naginiF on March 16, 2021, 10:11:51 AM
Got to admit, this and other thread have been great reads in past few days.  Just insanity and here are my favorites so far:

MU has to hire a black coach because majority of players are black.
Rick Pitino to MU
Further discussion of Rick Pitino to MU, even though posters say its not going to happen
Iona going to Final Four in two years.
UWM coach Baldwin would elevate the MU program to new levels

Keep it going, maybe Mark Few needs a change of scenery.

that Q in MarQuette just isn't going to stay in there by itself.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Herman Cain on March 16, 2021, 10:14:25 AM
Don't know about the others, but you and I are deadly serious here.

It has 0.001% chance of happening ... but girls can dream, right?
There are plenty of people on this message board who dream about Kate Upton. So we can have a little fun dreaming about Pitino here in the off season too.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 16, 2021, 10:15:10 AM
So...there's no word?  And it's not swirling?  Shocker.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 16, 2021, 10:18:24 AM
So...there's no word?  And it's not swirling?  Shocker.

(https://i.imgur.com/iO9LOcc.gif)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2021, 10:18:44 AM
So...there's no word?  And it's not swirling?  Shocker.

Only like the soft serve at the 31 flavors.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 16, 2021, 10:19:27 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/iO9LOcc.gif)

I hope those are Apple Jacks.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 16, 2021, 10:20:25 AM
I hope those are Apple Jacks.

Because cheerios would be too precious?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 16, 2021, 10:21:19 AM
Herman

I am with you. I would much rather be dreaming about Rick, than having nightmares about next season with Wojo as HC.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 16, 2021, 10:23:20 AM
Killings did the most work on Lewis but Wojo was heavily involved, more involved than he is with most recruits.

Well that's 1/3.5 I actually care about returning being actually invested in Wojo (.5 being Osa pending his ability to eat and work out)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 16, 2021, 10:23:49 AM
I know that its a fine line because you can't scramble last minute to find a coach but I'm really in the camp that we should see where DJ/DG/Lewis are at before doing anything.

If those guys are all planning to comeback I think losing Wojo at this point is too extreme a risk. Unless you can really knock it out of the park.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NickelDimer on March 16, 2021, 10:25:20 AM
This is the thread I needed today
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 16, 2021, 10:25:30 AM
Because cheerios would be too precious?

You don't think they are trying to push a certain type of apple?

(https://www.mrbreakfast.com/ucp/13_250_ucp.jpg)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: DienerTime34 on March 16, 2021, 10:29:00 AM
I know that its a fine line because you can't scramble last minute to find a coach but I'm really in the camp that we should see where DJ/DG/Lewis are at before doing anything.

If those guys are all planning to comeback I think losing Wojo at this point is too extreme a risk. Unless you can really knock it out of the park.

What if you talked to those guys and they were interested in playing with Pat Baldwin Jr?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 5DollarPitcher on March 16, 2021, 10:29:48 AM
I know that its a fine line because you can't scramble last minute to find a coach but I'm really in the camp that we should see where DJ/DG/Lewis are at before doing anything.

If those guys are all planning to comeback I think losing Wojo at this point is too extreme a risk. Unless you can really knock it out of the park.
There will ALWAYS be a player or two you don’t want to lose by firing a coach. It shouldn’t mean you don’t fire the coach if he’s underperforming.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 16, 2021, 10:32:14 AM
I know that its a fine line because you can't scramble last minute to find a coach but I'm really in the camp that we should see where DJ/DG/Lewis are at before doing anything.

If those guys are all planning to comeback I think losing Wojo at this point is too extreme a risk. Unless you can really knock it out of the park.

No, no, a thousand times no.  You don't let a group of three players determine whether a coach stays.  What kind of message does that send to the kids you're asking, and to the other players on the team whose input didn't matter?  LeBron James can get coaches hired and fired.  But that will never happen at Marquette.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 16, 2021, 10:35:32 AM
There will ALWAYS be a player or two you don’t want to lose by firing a coach. It shouldn’t mean you don’t fire the coach if he’s underperforming.

That's 3 players. Our 3 best ones.

And a key reason for "underperfroming" with this group is 3 of our players with a pulse were a frosh, frosh and basically frosh.

Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MDMU04 on March 16, 2021, 10:38:01 AM
I know that its a fine line because you can't scramble last minute to find a coach but I'm really in the camp that we should see where DJ/DG/Lewis are at before doing anything.

If those guys are all planning to comeback I think losing Wojo at this point is too extreme a risk. Unless you can really knock it out of the park.

No.  You don't let the whim of 18-22 year olds dictate the strategic direction of your program.  If you've made the determination that your current coach is not the person you want to be the CEO of your basketball program, you fire him, hire someone else and let the chips fall.

The person that you are hiring will have the implicit trust to try and retain any players on the roster, or release them all and start over at their discretion.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 16, 2021, 10:38:08 AM
There are plenty of people on this message board who dream about Kate Upton. So we can have a little fun dreaming about Pitino here in the off season too.

(http://scuffedballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/0000.gif)

Just for informational purposes for those who are unfamiliar with Kate Upton.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 16, 2021, 10:40:09 AM
No.  You don't let the whim of 18-22 year olds dictate the strategic direction of your program.

The whims of 18-22 year olds is the entire basis of college athletics.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 16, 2021, 10:40:14 AM
This is the happiest I’ve seen scoop in probably a couple years. 

It’s a welcome sight. 

Maybe WithoutBIAS, Wades, Fluff and I can all meet up and have drinks sometime.  ;D
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 10:43:41 AM
This is the happiest I’ve seen scoop in probably a couple years. 

It’s a welcome sight. 

Maybe WithoutBIAS, Wades, Fluff and I can all meet up and have drinks sometime.  ;D

And you called it!!

Nice to know that The Evil One is 100% #donedeal dump-on-his-forehead gone gone gone!!!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 16, 2021, 10:43:46 AM
This is the happiest I’ve seen scoop in probably a couple years. 

It’s a welcome sight. 

Maybe WithoutBIAS, Wades, Fluff and I can all meet up and have drinks sometime.  ;D

Any new info BR?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 16, 2021, 10:46:12 AM
Bad

I am enjoying the moment. He very well might be back next season, but I am enjoying the dream of happier days ahead.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 16, 2021, 10:47:12 AM
Bad

I am enjoying the moment. He very well might be back next season, but I am enjoying the dream of happier days ahead.

Amen Goose.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 16, 2021, 10:49:17 AM
Any new info BR?

No, sorry Panda.

Just hoping it works out, otherwise Wades, Bias and others are going to have a field day with me for making a trash claim.  Time will tell.  I still feel confident though and would bet on it.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MDMU04 on March 16, 2021, 10:51:48 AM
The whims of 18-22 year olds is the entire basis of college athletics.

You're correct in the instance where the coach that the administration hires recruits them to be a part of the roster and they sign the NLI.  They should not be allowed to dictate the terms of retaining or hiring a new head coach.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 10:54:25 AM
I still feel confident though and would bet on it.

I’ve been in a betting slump. I should bet you just to make sure it happens!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2021, 10:55:06 AM
This thread has turned into a victory lap...but with no victory. Not even a pyrrhic one.

Alright then.

Let's also celebrate singing Pat Baldwin Jr. and Chet Holmgren!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: fjm on March 16, 2021, 10:56:01 AM
Wojo to UNLV.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2021, 11:03:19 AM
I remember when an alum told me John Calipari was the first choice to replace Tom Crean.  He believed that was who  the administration was pursuing.  I was told he was an outlier in alum circles.  I didn’t believe that and don’t believe that now.  There are going to be a lot of disappointed people either this spring or next spring.  I believe whoever replaces Wojo will be starting from behind in the minds of many
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Oldgym on March 16, 2021, 11:04:34 AM
This is all very entertaining.  None of it is real unless we hear from the ops manager in the It's Happening bunker.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Jockey on March 16, 2021, 11:09:23 AM
If MU is considering moving on from Wojo, they're likely already working on lining up his replacement. They don't need to publicly announce anything to do that.

My guess is that if there's going to be a change - and that's a big IF, IMO - it would only happen if/when they're confident they've got their guy. They're not going to fire their coach and bumble through a weeks long  search and get publicly rejectedby a couple of targets, a la St. John's a couple of years ago.

Any competent organization (Not saying MU is one) would have a list of potential candidates ready before a coach leaves / is fired. If they are starting from scratch when/if Wojo leaves, the result will not be good. That is how you perpetuate incompetence at any organization.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: withoutbias on March 16, 2021, 11:09:45 AM
A poster who only ever trolls started a thread saying Wojo is gone.  And we're celebrating Wojo's departure.  Even though there's nothing to suggest Wojo is, indeed, gone.

This place is going to go ballistic when Wojo is not fired, even though there was nothing besides a troll starting a thread to suggest he was gone.

The guy won the internet today.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: brewcity77 on March 16, 2021, 11:10:50 AM
Jesum Crow people. Pitino ran a brothel for his players. He will never be our coach.

I actually think it's worth mentioning a quote from Christian Dawkins: "Rick has no clue what’s going on at his school. Most of the bigger guys, they know..."

Clearly there were issues at Louisville. Clearly those things happened while Pitino was in charge. But it seems pretty clear from the quotes and from the punishments handed down by the NCAA (all of which Pitino has already served) that the problem was Rick hired assistants who had no problem with shady stuff and if he chose to do anything, it was to remain unaware of the problems. If a program like Marquette were to be more diligent in helping oversee the process he uses to pick assistants, perhaps requiring him to have a woman on staff (he was the first head coach to hire a female NCAA D1 assistant, Bernadette Mattox) and other assistants with clean reputations (perhaps requiring him to give Justin Gainey a look), there's no reason to think this isn't a place where he could rehabilitate his reputation. And considering our commitment to running a clean program, perhaps the best place to give him a shot at forgiveness and redemption.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 16, 2021, 11:12:27 AM
A poster who only ever trolls started a thread saying Wojo is gone.  And we're celebrating Wojo's departure.  Even though there's nothing to suggest Wojo is, indeed, gone.

Yeah, I'd change the title of the thread.  But those too foolish to know the truth might as well have their moments of happiness.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 11:13:22 AM
I’m looking forward to the tweets from the champagne locker room!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 16, 2021, 11:14:02 AM
No, no, a thousand times no.  You don't let a group of three players determine whether a coach stays. What kind of message does that send to the kids you're asking, and to the other players on the team whose input didn't matter?  LeBron James can get coaches hired and fired.  But that will never happen at Marquette.

well, it worked for North Carolina when the class of May, Felton, McCants, et al said they were transferring if Doherty was brought back.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NolongerWarriors on March 16, 2021, 11:14:24 AM
Never will happen, but Rick Pitino is named head coach at MU and they are immediately relevant again and interest in the program skyrockets.

Would love for MU to take gigantic Bryson Dechambeau swing like that.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MUfan12 on March 16, 2021, 11:14:46 AM
Wojo to UNLV.

Basically our only hope of getting a new coach this offseason.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 16, 2021, 11:15:44 AM
I actually think it's worth mentioning a quote from Christian Dawkins: "Rick has no clue what’s going on at his school. Most of the bigger guys, they know...[/i]"



Then that's called "wilful ignorance" on the part of Pitino.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Jockey on March 16, 2021, 11:16:15 AM
One very good thing about Pitino is that he is a big fan of our history and understands that MU is a basketball school. If they let Wojo go, Rick should be the the #1 focus. He has another run in him and can flat out coach. He would provide an awfully exciting 4-5 years and this guy would not miss a game.

The problem is - will they bring Pitino in for an interview? IF they do, he would blow them away and get the job.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 16, 2021, 11:16:43 AM
The problem is - will they bring Pitino in for an interview? IF they do, he would blow them away and get the job.

Nice
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2021, 11:17:12 AM
Then that's called "wilful ignorance" on the part of Pitino.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/81648159984683d7d8147be12e7a411e/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 16, 2021, 11:19:03 AM
a 7 page thread on based on a post with zero substance? Clap clap scoop.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Tyler COLEk on March 16, 2021, 11:19:54 AM
Returning to the Scoop for the first time in almost a decade to post these two words:

Dwyane Wade
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 16, 2021, 11:20:17 AM
a 7 page thread on based on a post with zero substance? We are Clap clap scoop.

FIFY
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 16, 2021, 11:20:55 AM
Returning to the Scoop for the first time in almost a decade to post these two words:

Dwyane Wade

Yeah St Johns and Georgetown have hired their all time greatest players. Let's join that one
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2021, 11:21:01 AM
a 7 page thread on based on a post with zero substance? Clap clap scoop.

This is just rookie stuff. Let's get the tin foil hat thread going again.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NolongerWarriors on March 16, 2021, 11:21:17 AM
a 7 page thread on based on a post with zero substance? Clap clap scoop.

I think that shows how desperate fans are to have some hope in the program again.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: nyg on March 16, 2021, 11:21:46 AM
No, sorry Panda.

Just hoping it works out, otherwise Wades, Bias and others are going to have a field day with me for making a trash claim.  Time will tell.  I still feel confident though and would bet on it.

Just hoping???

"He's gone"
"Said it for weeks, alot of people talked sh*t, can't wait till they eat crow"
"He's gone, said it for a long time"
"$1,000 bet open without brains"

Just some of your statements.  So, you what is it, yes or no.  If yes, when? 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: withoutbias on March 16, 2021, 11:24:22 AM
Just hoping???

"He's gone"
"Said it for weeks, alot of people talked sh*t, can't wait till they eat crow"
"He's gone, said it for a long time"
"$1,000 bet open without brains"

Just some of your statements.  So, you what is it, yes or no.  If yes, when?

The guy has never had any clue on the subject of Wojo's firing.  He said something along the lines of, "I don't know what y'all are hearing thinking Wojo is safe, but what I'm hearing is he'll be gone," suggesting he had some great insider knowledge nobody else had.  Then when asked follow-up questions, he immediately said something along the lines of, "You think I'd make any guarantees with Lovell and Scholl running the show?  How can anyone know what they'll do?!"  Literally admitting he has no clue and no inside information.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NickelDimer on March 16, 2021, 11:24:36 AM
A poster who only ever trolls started a thread saying Wojo is gone.  And we're celebrating Wojo's departure.  Even though there's nothing to suggest Wojo is, indeed, gone.

This place is going to go ballistic when Wojo is not fired, even though there was nothing besides a troll starting a thread to suggest he was gone.

The guy won the internet today.
Personally I thought this was more noteworthy than the original post
I am actually quite surprised by this but there is serious discussion taking place. Some money is lining up. Very interesting.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 16, 2021, 11:25:36 AM
No.  You don't let the whim of 18-22 year olds dictate the strategic direction of your program.  If you've made the determination that your current coach is not the person you want to be the CEO of your basketball program, you fire him, hire someone else and let the chips fall.

The person that you are hiring will have the implicit trust to try and retain any players on the roster, or release them all and start over at their discretion.

Nah, the whim of college kids is part the nature of the business.

Honestly if we are just now making the determination that the current coach isnt the right fit, I think that reflects poorly on the ones make that decision.

The way things ended the last two seasons with Markus tenure, were both unexpected and escalated dumpster fires.

If anyone went into this season of not only Covid but a roster of complete unknowns and didnt expect that there could be a potential big drop. They are insane.

Could we have been better this year? Sure. But we were always very flawed and our only true experience was guys who are role players at best.

If people within the program truly though DG, Lewis and Carton were all gonna come in and take the league by storm in 1 year then thats a big issue. This is a multi year core.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 16, 2021, 11:28:13 AM
a 7 page thread on based on a post with zero substance? Clap clap scoop.

you should bump up your posts per page.  I'm only at 4 pages on this dumpster fire.

I am in favor of Pitino.  He's a devout Catholic.  Good coach.  Has served his time in purgatory.  Would make a lot of heads explode, including Badger fans.  Would immediately bring results.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 16, 2021, 11:28:31 AM
Nah, the whim of college kids is part the nature of the business.

Honestly if we are just now making the determination that the current coach isnt the right fit, I think that reflects poorly on the ones make that decision.

The way things ended the last two seasons with Markus tenure, were both unexpected and escalated dumpster fires.

If anyone went into this season of not only Covid but a roster of complete unknowns and didnt expect that there could be a potential big drop. They are insane.

Could we have been better this year? Sure. But we were always very flawed and our only true experience was guys who are role players at best.

If people within the program truly though DG, Lewis and Carton were all gonna come in and take the league by storm in 1 year then thats a big issue. This is a multi year core.

Maybe we can finish 500 in conference again! Progress!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 16, 2021, 11:28:34 AM
Returning to the Scoop for the first time in almost a decade to post these two words:

Dwyane Wade


One post in and the dude already made Scoop Takes.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NolongerWarriors on March 16, 2021, 11:29:32 AM
Personally I thought this was more noteworthy than the original post

If this was true and big donors were going to fund the buyout, would they have any say in who gets hired?

Would people spend millions to replace a dud with another dud?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 16, 2021, 11:33:39 AM
Returning to the Scoop for the first time in almost a decade to post these two words:

Dwyane Wade

see ya in 2031, hey?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: DegenerateDish on March 16, 2021, 11:34:31 AM
This thread will be Scoop Ring of Honor worthy in the end.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: YaBlueIt on March 16, 2021, 11:42:02 AM
Just in: Pitino signed by New Mexico.

Not that Marquette ever would've given him a shot anyway.

Edit: wrong Pitino. carry on
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Lens on March 16, 2021, 11:49:59 AM
Just in: Pitino signed by New Mexico.

Not that Marquette ever would've given him a shot anyway.

Edit: wrong Pitino. carry on


ummmm, YaBlueIt
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 16, 2021, 11:50:55 AM
Even the atheists on Scoop are praying that this rumor is true.


Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 16, 2021, 11:54:14 AM
The guy has never had any clue on the subject of Wojo's firing.  He said something along the lines of, "I don't know what y'all are hearing thinking Wojo is safe, but what I'm hearing is he'll be gone," suggesting he had some great insider knowledge nobody else had.  Then when asked follow-up questions, he immediately said something along the lines of, "You think I'd make any guarantees with Lovell and Scholl running the show?  How can anyone know what they'll do?!"  Literally admitting he has no clue and no inside information.

Bias, I hope you’re doing well buddy.

 My thought is I do not trust Lovell at all.  say there was some large donors who would buy out or help buy out his contract, I still don’t know if I could count on Lovell to make a change.   That’s all my point was.

Happy to throw a G on it if you want?   Loser donates to a charity of winners choice. The bet is wojo is or is not the coach starting the 2021 season this fall.

Have a great day
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: dinger on March 16, 2021, 11:58:36 AM
We still have a long way to go before we even come close to the Buzz to SMU thread.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MUfan12 on March 16, 2021, 11:59:16 AM
We still have a long way to go before we even come close to the Buzz to SMU thread.

Just another sign of how far the program has fallen smh
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 16, 2021, 11:59:28 AM
Iona18 will be chiming in any moment.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 16, 2021, 12:00:05 PM
Since we are granting forgiveness for past transgressions, I am hearing Bo Ryan is getting antsy in retirement.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: f/k/a humanlung on March 16, 2021, 12:01:08 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and answer, "No."  I'm personally conflicted, but I can't imagine the administration would do it.

If Howland had too much baggage, how is Pitino even a consideration?

I would love the hire but...
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: DegenerateDish on March 16, 2021, 12:02:11 PM
I keep waiting for someone to come up with the username Big Father to post.

(RIP to Big Daddy)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: PhillyWarrior on March 16, 2021, 12:06:45 PM
If MU is considering moving on from Wojo, they're likely already working on lining up his replacement. They don't need to publicly announce anything to do that.

My guess is that if there's going to be a change - and that's a big IF, IMO - it would only happen if/when they're confident they've got their guy. They're not going to fire their coach and bumble through a weeks long  search and get publicly rejectedby a couple of targets, a la St. John's a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: f/k/a humanlung on March 16, 2021, 12:09:04 PM
Ya know things are bad when the only thing that can give Scoopers hope these days is an interwebs rumor about the coach getting fired.

Or better yet (fingers crossed), the administration taking a dump on the coach's forehead!

I honestly don't think this admin has the accuracy to hit his forehead.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 16, 2021, 12:11:04 PM
Returning to the Scoop for the first time in almost a decade to post these two words:

Dwyane Wade

Two more words:
Trevor Mbakwe
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2021, 12:11:10 PM
Make Joey Hauser player-coach
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 16, 2021, 12:12:50 PM
Make Joey Hauser player-coach

All postgame press conferences would be conducted via letter.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 12:17:15 PM
Returning to the Scoop for the first time in almost a decade to post these two words:

Pole dancers?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Warriors88 on March 16, 2021, 12:17:40 PM
Saying Pitino is a sleazebag is an understatement. Keep him away from Marquette. 

There are other coaches available who won't come with a moving truck full of excess baggage. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Lens on March 16, 2021, 12:18:38 PM
I honestly don't think this admin has the accuracy to hit his forehead.

It's easy to drag the admin but what have the done to supposedly show love for Wojo?

1) They extended him...you have to do that in college hoops and you don't know how the deal was structured and who it favored

2) They play cheerleader for him...well they're paying him and he's their coach, today.  The days of the Football coach being the AD and calling out the hoops coach are long gone.  Admins are going to smile on the outside right up until they fire a guy.  Name another school that was tipping it's hand during a season.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on March 16, 2021, 12:19:21 PM
No smoke, no fire - we can shut down this thread.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 12:22:30 PM
No smoke, no fire - we can shut down this thread.

Hush your mouth!

This thread is the best thing to happen to Marquette hoops since we beat Creighton ... and even then, at least a handful of Scoopers were hoping we'd lose on the off chance it would lead to the administration taking a dump on Wojo's forehead.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 16, 2021, 12:24:32 PM
administration taking a dump on Wojo's forehead.

If you asked John McAfee, he'd say they missed.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 16, 2021, 12:25:40 PM
Hush your mouth!

This thread is the best thing to happen to Marquette hoops since we beat Creighton ... and even then, at least a handful of Scoopers were hoping we'd lose on the off chance it would lead to the administration taking a dump on Wojo's forehead.

Glad you liked that one, 82.  I should really charge for that kind of premium content.  And honestly, after thinking about it a little more, I believe it'd be better if the Administration hired a neutral third party to take a dump on Wojo's forehead.  I hear Dave Leitao's got plenty of time on his hands right now, and would probably take the job.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: dinger on March 16, 2021, 12:30:56 PM
I honestly don't think this admin has the accuracy to hit his forehead.

Can the wealthy donors chip in a few extra for a toilet target in the Al?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: DienerTime34 on March 16, 2021, 12:35:04 PM
No smoke, no fire - we can shut down this thread.

This is the most entertained I've been by MU basketball in months. Let's keep it going!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 16, 2021, 12:46:10 PM
Can anyone confirm Billy Donovan was spotted at Caff's with admin? I heard Calipari is coming later this week, but I figured that was fake news.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MUfan12 on March 16, 2021, 12:51:33 PM
Can the wealthy donors chip in a few extra for a toilet target in the Al?

They're all self-flushing too, post-Buzz.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 16, 2021, 12:57:09 PM
This thread is the most enjoyable thread in a long time, IMO. Most would be happy with Wojo shown the door and majority enjoying the Pitino talk. I hope this thread lasts until Pitino lands another big time gig in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Lens on March 16, 2021, 01:04:59 PM
People have suggested MU needs to clean house at the top.  That we need a President who realizes the importance of a Liberal Arts education.  And who knows how to hire.  I have just the guy:

Seamus Carey, Ph. D.

https://www.iona.edu/about/college-leadership/office-president (https://www.iona.edu/about/college-leadership/office-president)

Checks so many boxes:

Seamus Carey (IRISH AF), Ph.D., serves as the ninth president of Iona College. (LAYMAN AT A CATHOLIC SCHOOL, WHO RECENTLY MADE AN OUT OF THE BOX HIRE)

President Carey is a national leader in higher education who has been vocal on the relevance and importance of a liberal arts education.

A Bronx native and first-generation college student, Carey earned a Ph.D. in Philosophy and a Master of Arts from Fordham University, and a bachelor’s degree from Vassar College. He attended Harvard’s Management Development Program.

Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2021, 01:05:09 PM
Can anyone confirm Billy Donovan was spotted at Caff's with admin? I heard Calipari is coming later this week, but I figured that was fake news.

They'd have to do a press conference to rename the BBQ the The BBQ CaliParty
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: lawdog77 on March 16, 2021, 01:05:37 PM
This thread is the most enjoyable thread in a long time, IMO. Most would be happy with Wojo shown the door and majority enjoying the Pitino talk. I hope this thread lasts until Pitino lands another big time gig in a couple of weeks.
Emerald Green Weenie?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 16, 2021, 01:06:08 PM
This thread is the most enjoyable thread in a long time, IMO. Most would be happy with Wojo shown the door and majority enjoying the Pitino talk. I hope this thread lasts until Pitino lands another big time gig in a couple of weeks.
Agree would like Beilein first, second Rick Pitino. Has anyone Mentioned Stan Johnson on this thread yet. LMU’s NET was near Marquette’s.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2021, 01:06:30 PM
This thread is the most enjoyable thread in a long time, IMO. Most would be happy with Wojo shown the door and majority enjoying the Pitino talk. I hope this thread lasts until Pitino lands another big time gig in a couple of weeks.

When that happens, we'll know that Wojo can't even recruit his own replacement. Green weeinie.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 16, 2021, 01:14:43 PM
As long as we're talking Pitino, there's another name we should probably toss into the discussion.

Dave Bliss.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Nukem2 on March 16, 2021, 01:22:58 PM
As long as we're talking Pitino, there's another name we should probably toss into the discussion.

Dave Bliss.
And, despite the Baylor baggage, he is only 77.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 01:23:44 PM
As long as we're talking Pitino, there's another name we should probably toss into the discussion.

Dave Bliss.

Players enjoyed a lot of bliss during Pitino's time at the 'Ville.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on March 16, 2021, 01:29:16 PM
Since we are granting forgiveness for past transgressions, I am hearing Bo Ryan is getting antsy in retirement.

Too soon
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 16, 2021, 01:40:29 PM
Would have to keep Bo away from PT students
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 5DollarPitcher on March 16, 2021, 01:48:59 PM
That's 3 players. Our 3 best ones.

And a key reason for "underperfroming" with this group is 3 of our players with a pulse were a frosh, frosh and basically frosh.
Some people will never learn. 7 years and the same song and dance.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 16, 2021, 01:53:06 PM
MU82

Spot on about Rick. It would put MU on the map in two seconds and it would be an exciting era of MU ball.

Goose

Can you imagine Pitino patrolling the sidelines at FISERV in his white suit? Or better yet, a new baby blue one? It would be AWESOME, baby!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 16, 2021, 01:56:50 PM
Lenny

I would be camping out for tickets.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 16, 2021, 02:03:41 PM
As long as we're talking Pitino, there's another name we should probably toss into the discussion.

Dave Bliss.


And, despite the Baylor baggage, he is only 77.

Could always hire the other Dave Bliss. OKC Thunder assistant, 34 years old, Wisconsin native, played at Georgia.

He was on the 2008 SEC tourney champs; the year tornados hit the Georgia Dome.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: nyg on March 16, 2021, 02:11:51 PM
This thread is the most enjoyable thread in a long time, IMO. Most would be happy with Wojo shown the door and majority enjoying the Pitino talk. I hope this thread lasts until Pitino lands another big time gig in a couple of weeks.

Or until Iona and sweet Rick get smoked by Alabama.  Iona has played 17 total games and did not play any team going to the NCAA Tournament.  Now they go up against the SEC Champ.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 16, 2021, 02:15:54 PM
nyg

I hope Rick does get smoked because he can then interview for a much bigger job. Not exactly sure what your response had to do with anything, but I appreciate the good luuck.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 16, 2021, 02:20:13 PM
Can't believe some people think hiring a guy who was too sleazy for Louisville - Louisville! - is a good idea.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 16, 2021, 02:21:09 PM
Or until Iona and sweet Rick get smoked by Alabama.  Iona has played 17 total games and did not play any team going to the NCAA Tournament.  Now they go up against the SEC Champ.  Good luck.

I don’t think anyone realistically expects Pitino to win that game, and a loss will not reflect poorly on his coaching acumen or hurt his job prospects.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 79Warrior on March 16, 2021, 02:24:02 PM
Can't believe some people think hiring a guy who was too sleazy for Louisville - Louisville! - is a good idea.

Just some board fun. Not to mention there is no opening at the moment. I agree with you. There is no chance MU hires him.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: nyg on March 16, 2021, 02:24:36 PM
nyg

I hope Rick does get smoked because he can then interview for a much bigger job. Not exactly sure what your response had to do with anything, but I appreciate the good luuck.

Good luck to Iona being almost a 20 point underdog.  I am all for upsets, but if Iona gets slaughtered, he may fall off the mantle just abit. Can't wait to see what big time gig Rick lands in the next few weeks, would be very news worthy.   
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 16, 2021, 02:25:17 PM
Pakuni

I wish we had hired a sleazy UL guy in 1977. Might have had a much different 43 years.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 16, 2021, 02:27:31 PM
Pitino is a good coach but he's almost 70.  Maybe ten years ago this was a good idea, but cmon... 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: naginiF on March 16, 2021, 02:37:55 PM
Pitino is a good coach but he's almost 70.  Maybe ten years ago this was a good idea, but cmon...
Louisville had to vacate it's bball records from 2011 - 2015, hiring him at the absolute hight of his cheating/horrible behavior may not have been the good idea you're thinking it would've been
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Knight Commission on March 16, 2021, 02:40:33 PM
I am all in on Pat Kelsey   Absolutely zero interest in Rick Pitino.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 03:05:08 PM
Pitino is a good coach but he's almost 70.  Maybe ten years ago this was a good idea, but cmon...

70 is the new 50!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: DienerTime34 on March 16, 2021, 03:10:02 PM
You think if Pitino becomes coach he'll make it a priority to restore the dance team to at least mid 2000s level?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: axaguy on March 16, 2021, 03:15:24 PM
No but hotel room rates will skyrocket during campus visit season.....
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 16, 2021, 03:18:47 PM
Even the atheists on Scoop are praying that this rumor is true.

They don't believe in God so they praying to the next best, Al.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: willie warrior on March 16, 2021, 03:24:37 PM
If you asked John McAfee, he'd say they missed.
Actually, if there is any dumping on a forehead, it is Wojo-Dukiet dumping on Admins forehead, because ademins head is firmly embedded up Wojo-Dukiets butt.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: willie warrior on March 16, 2021, 03:26:39 PM
This thread is crazy. The only thing swirling is the toilet water going down the tube that has become our program under Wojo-Dukiet.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2021, 03:35:26 PM
Actually, if there is any dumping on a forehead, it is Wojo-Dukiet dumping on Admins forehead, because ademins head is firmly embedded up Wojo-Dukiets butt.

Another comment about posteriors
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: BM1090 on March 16, 2021, 03:44:05 PM
I am all in on Pat Kelsey   Absolutely zero interest in Rick Pitino.

No thank you.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Phuket MU Fan on March 16, 2021, 03:47:17 PM
My sources at Home Depot here in Fort Myers say Wojo is out and Joe Chapman is in. You heard it here first.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Big Papi on March 16, 2021, 03:50:23 PM
I keep waiting for someone to come up with the username Big Father to post.

(RIP to Big Daddy)

Great things come to those who wait my son.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 16, 2021, 03:53:00 PM
Great things come to those who wait my son.

What's on the horizon BP?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 16, 2021, 03:59:11 PM
70 is the new 50!

Boeheim is 78 I believe and is Coach K 72
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 16, 2021, 03:59:59 PM
Another comment about posteriors
Which is unusual, because willie's go to comment is typically about penises. (Peni?)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 16, 2021, 04:00:04 PM
70 is the new 50!

Beilein is 67 I believe
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 16, 2021, 04:00:32 PM
Biden is 78.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 16, 2021, 04:03:56 PM
Agree would like Beilein first, second Rick Pitino. Has anyone Mentioned Stan Johnson on this thread yet. LMU’s NET was near Marquette’s.
Does all this MU being in on transfers talk make it more likely Wojo is staying
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2021, 04:05:23 PM
Does all this MU being in on transfers talk make it more likely Wojo is staying

Due diligence by the staff to do their jobs until told otherwise.  Boosters are working behind the scenes
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 16, 2021, 04:06:52 PM
Right, Wojo is coach until he isn't.  So he's got to work like he always has.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 16, 2021, 04:11:08 PM
Due diligence by the staff to do their jobs until told otherwise.  Boosters are working behind the scenes

Frankly - I'd expect an outgoing staff to make as many or more offers than usual. Set themselves up with some possible relationships in their next gig.

It will be telling how many of these offers actually turn into legit finalist lists.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Jockey on March 16, 2021, 04:12:44 PM
Biden is 78.

And sharp as a tack.

Sorry, Goose, I couldn't resist just because its you. ;)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on March 16, 2021, 04:13:39 PM
Due diligence by the staff to do their jobs until told otherwise.  Boosters are working behind the scenes

Boosters are working behind the scenes? on what - Wojo's next inbounds play?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 16, 2021, 04:16:04 PM
Boosters are working behind the scenes? on what - Wojo's next inbounds play?

Lol "Throw it FURTHER into the backcourt this time ! "
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2021, 04:17:42 PM
Boosters are working behind the scenes? on what - Wojo's next inbounds play?

If deep pocketed Indiana boosters could pay to get rid of Archie, deep pocketed Marquette boosters can pay to get rid of Wojo.  Maybe the alum and boosters just don’t take Marquette basketball as serious as they do in Indiana
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: First Time Poster on March 16, 2021, 04:24:24 PM
UNFORTUNATELY, this has NOT been a good year for men’s basketball at Marquette.

After a very disappointing season, rumors are now swirling around that Wojo will NOT be coaching Marquette basketball next year.  His top assistant has already left (announced yesterday)…and that could just be the tip of the iceberg. There’s some speculation that former Louisville coach, Rick Patino, may be one of the candidates to replace Wojo. However, although Patino is a proven winner and great coach, his “past transgressions” may be way too much for Marquette to overlook.
 
Just think back…a little over three years ago the Marquette fan base was on top of the world. Ranked among the top ten teams in the country, the Golden Eagles looked like a sure lock to finish first in a tough Big East Conference. Then, the wheels fell off the MU bus. The team literally fell apart, losing 6 of their final seven games. When that disappointing season ended, two of their best players, the Houser brothers, transferred.

The 2019-20 season was a repeat. The Golden Eagles got off to a good start, then went into a tailspin, winning only one of their seven remaining games. This basketball season has been even worse with MU finishing near the bottom of the Big East…then getting blown out 68-49 by Georgetown in the Big East Tournament.

Although Wojo appears to run a “clean program” and is a good recruiter, he’s shown to be a poor game coach who fails to get the most out of his talented players. As a loyal and long-time Marquette fan, I believe it’s now time for a change. Marquette needs to hire a head coach that is capable of returning men’s basketball to its “glory days”. Then again, the MU Administration may just decide to play it safe and give Wojo yet another year to try and right his sinking ship!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Viper on March 16, 2021, 04:35:09 PM
No, no, a thousand times no.  You don't let a group of three players determine whether a coach stays.  What kind of message does that send to the kids you're asking, and to the other players on the team whose input didn't matter?  LeBron James can get coaches hired and fired.  But that will never happen at Marquette.
100%.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 16, 2021, 04:36:13 PM
UNFORTUNATELY, this has NOT been a good year for men’s basketball at Marquette.

After a very disappointing season, rumors are now swirling around that Wojo will NOT be coaching Marquette basketball next year.  His top assistant has already left (announced yesterday)…and that could just be the tip of the iceberg. There’s some speculation that former Louisville coach, Rick Patino, may be one of the candidates to replace Wojo. However, although Patino is a proven winner and great coach, his “past transgressions” may be way too much for Marquette to overlook.
 
Just think back…a little over three years ago the Marquette fan base was on top of the world. Ranked among the top ten teams in the country, the Golden Eagles looked like a sure lock to finish first in a tough Big East Conference. Then, the wheels fell off the MU bus. The team literally fell apart, losing 6 of their final seven games. When that disappointing season ended, two of their best players, the Houser brothers, transferred.

The 2019-20 season was a repeat. The Golden Eagles got off to a good start, then went into a tailspin, winning only one of their seven remaining games. This basketball season has been even worse with MU finishing near the bottom of the Big East…then getting blown out 68-49 by Georgetown in the Big East Tournament.

Although Wojo appears to run a “clean program” and is a good recruiter, he’s shown to be a poor game coach who fails to get the most out of his talented players. As a loyal and long-time Marquette fan, I believe it’s now time for a change. Marquette needs to hire a head coach that is capable of returning men’s basketball to its “glory days”. Then again, the MU Administration may just decide to play it safe and give Wojo yet another year to try and right his sinking ship!

Hate to be that guy but it really bugs me *Pitino
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Warriors88 on March 16, 2021, 04:36:53 PM
This vague rumor mill will get me excited for inevitable disappointment just as effectively as the Wilson to Bears rumors.  An 8th year for Wojo and Andy Dalton leading the 2021 Bears to 6-10.  Huzzah!

Your nightmare scenario is coming to fruition. 

Dalton signs with Bears - $10m to be a crappy QB in long line of crappy QB's
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Viper on March 16, 2021, 04:37:37 PM
This is the happiest I’ve seen scoop in probably a couple years. 

It’s a welcome sight. 

Maybe WithoutBIAS, Wades, Fluff and I can all meet up and have drinks sometime.  ;D
a beer with BLM and Fluffy? I want in on that! 😀
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 16, 2021, 04:44:42 PM
Biden is 78.
With the mind of a 98.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2021, 04:44:48 PM
Your nightmare scenario is coming to fruition. 

Dalton signs with Bears - $10m to be a crappy QB in long line of crappy QB's

I thought this was a joke.  Good freaking grief..... smh.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 16, 2021, 04:46:21 PM
rumors are now swirling around that Wojo will NOT be coaching Marquette basketball next year.  His top assistant has already left (announced yesterday)…and that could just be the tip of the iceberg. There’s some speculation that former Louisville coach, Rick Patino, may be one of the candidates to replace Wojo.

Wait, this joke of a thread got you to register, and regurgitate the wildest parts of the thread?  I must have missed the sarcasm.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: tower912 on March 16, 2021, 04:46:57 PM
With the mind of a 98.
That is an A.  On a 1-100 grading scale.   We agree.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 16, 2021, 04:51:35 PM
That is an A.  On a 1-100 grading scale.   We agree.

I thought the 98 reference was to MU's NET?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 16, 2021, 04:53:09 PM
Marquette will hire the Ghost of Bob Dukiet before we hire Rick Pitino.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 16, 2021, 04:55:53 PM
Yessir ... all this thread needed to get even funner was an injection of politics.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: CountryRoads on March 16, 2021, 05:01:01 PM
If deep pocketed Indiana boosters could pay to get rid of Archie, deep pocketed Marquette boosters can pay to get rid of Wojo.  Maybe the alum and boosters just don’t take Marquette basketball as serious as they do in Indiana

You are assuming the people that would be accepting money from the boosters want Wojo gone. Not sure that’s the case.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Viper on March 16, 2021, 05:04:14 PM
Can anyone confirm Billy Donovan was spotted at Caff's with admin? I heard Calipari is coming later this week, but I figured that was fake news.
Donovan was at Goolsbys with Allie McGuire.
Plausible deniability, of course.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: joparks on March 16, 2021, 05:04:20 PM
Marquette is in this position because of their own making.  Throw Covid out, everything else being the same, some fool decided to give Wojo a contract extension complete with a pricey buyout after the 2018-19 season where the team disintegrated down the stretch and may have been over-rated going into that fateful decline.  Someone valued it more than what it really was and now we have to cut off our arm to get out of the handcuffs that extension has placed on the school.  It's easy to say Covid has an impact and it does to an extent.  However, we were destined to be in this situation no matter what the day they extended him so we were going to have to cut him a check no matter what.  The only difference is that Covid has made it difficult to pony up the funds.

It's hard to expect the guy whose lack of game coaching that's primarily responsible for our current state is suddenly going to be able to right the ship and fix it when he has never done such a thing.  As of right now, Wojo's career coaching accomplishments amount to grinding a program into the ground.  Wojo wasn't a good hire in the beginning, once they pulled the trigger on him, they were pretty much stuck seeing if it would amount to anything.  After year 5, it was evident, but the school doubled down on a poor hire then and here we are.  Hoping and praying instead of being in control of our destiny. 

Many people will say they had to do what they did in May 2019.  They didn't have to do anything.  In fact that was one instance where doing nothing would have been better than doing anything.  However in March 2021, because the school did something in May 2019, They actually need to do something now.  Doing nothing now would likely be far worse than doing something.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 16, 2021, 05:14:23 PM
How have we gotten this far without mentioning Joe Chapman?

No other coach of MU players in the past 45 years has coached and won a championship game like he has. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NickelDimer on March 16, 2021, 05:15:29 PM
How have we gotten this far without mentioning Joe Chapman?

No other coach of MU players in the past 45 years has coached and won a championship game like he has.
You missed the post from the source at Home Depot
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: EnderWiggen on March 16, 2021, 05:17:04 PM
Yessir ... all this thread needed to get even funner was an injection of politics.

It's not a true Scoop thread until some boomer starts ranting fox news talking points.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 16, 2021, 05:21:06 PM
My sources at Home Depot here in Fort Myers say Wojo is out and Joe Chapman is in. You heard it here first.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 16, 2021, 05:27:10 PM
My sources at Home Depot here in Fort Myers say Wojo is out and Joe Chapman is in. You heard it here first.

Beilein would be my first choice. But Would be alright with 2003 One Shining Moment MU Video Star and TBT Champion Coach Joe Chapman too.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 16, 2021, 05:34:33 PM
When can we bring back #DoneDeal?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 16, 2021, 05:38:45 PM
Live look-in at MU admin asking alums for $:
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/S2CLNWkWHz5ra/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 16, 2021, 05:39:09 PM
When can we bring back #DoneDeal?


Only when we make a run at Shaka, which oddly enough may be the one of the least implausible rumors in this thread.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 16, 2021, 05:49:01 PM
That is an A.  On a 1-100 grading scale.   We agree.

98 year old.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 16, 2021, 05:50:14 PM
Beilein would be my first choice. But Would be alright with 2003 One Shining Moment MU Video Star and TBT Champion Coach Joe Chapman too.

Beilein would be my first choice. Thoughts or has anyone mentioned Craig Smith from Utah State or Porter Moser from Loyola if MU threw enough many at him. Although Crean while at MU did defeat Moser when he was at Illinois State haha
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JWags85 on March 16, 2021, 05:51:01 PM
Beilein would be my first choice. But Would be alright with 2003 One Shining Moment MU Video Star and TBT Champion Coach Joe Chapman too.

Your first choice is a future HOF coach who made a title game and took multiple schools past the S16 but you’d also be fine with an AAU coach who has never even coached a HS squad because he was the coach of a team of experienced pro ballers in a tournament without a ton of actual BB structure?  :o
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 16, 2021, 05:53:21 PM

Only when we make a run at Shaka, which oddly enough may be the one of the least implausible rumors in this thread.
Sidebar or tangent My friend did visit Shaka in his offices in Texas and Beilein in his offices in Michigan and came away more impressed with Beilein.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 16, 2021, 05:54:46 PM
Breaking news.    Lewis to transfer
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 16, 2021, 05:55:55 PM
Breaking news.    Lewis to transfer
Ugh Lewis may be a pro but if this means we have a new coach lined up maybe good.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 16, 2021, 05:58:10 PM
Your first choice is a future HOF coach who made a title game and took multiple schools past the S16 but you’d also be fine with an AAU coach who has never even coached a HS squad because he was the coach of a team of experienced pro ballers in a tournament without a ton of actual BB structure?  :o

True. Beilein would be my first choice. A few other people at least mentioned Joe on this site before I did. I was just responding. Why did you not attack them or draw first blood on them.Said I would be alright with Joe since he is my friend but was more making conversation. You probably know my name what is your name.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 16, 2021, 06:02:04 PM
Perhaps alverno college would be a good destination for wojo
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 16, 2021, 06:04:13 PM
Beilein would be my first choice. Thoughts or has anyone mentioned Craig Smith from Utah State or Porter Moser from Loyola if MU threw enough many at him. Although Crean while at MU did defeat Moser when he was at Illinois State haha
Thoughts On Craig Smith, Porter Moser, Stan Johnson, John Beilein, Rick Pitino. Todd Kowalczyck, Eric Konkol. Other thoughts or suggestions if Lewis is going we probably have some Coach lined up or should.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 16, 2021, 06:06:09 PM
Breaking news.    Lewis to transfer

Rocky, can you just ban him? Honestly, this bullsh*t made up rumor crap has to go. It's a really bad look.

Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 16, 2021, 06:06:23 PM
I see the lewis transfering thread got deleted.  Shame on you guys.  Just wait
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: nyg on March 16, 2021, 06:08:58 PM
Thanks mods for deleting the Lewis thread.  Terrible. Guy is insane and should go.

Crap on coach all you want, but players is an off limits.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 16, 2021, 06:11:33 PM
I dont have a horse in this race.  This info came to me before his account posted the subtle message.   Its legit. But call me a fire starter.  It will be announced soon
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NickelDimer on March 16, 2021, 06:13:19 PM
I dont have a horse in this race.  This info came to me before his account posted the subtle message.   Its legit. But call me a fire starter.  It will be announced soon
If true that should be the final death blow to Wojo: Blowjo
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: jesmu84 on March 16, 2021, 06:18:06 PM
I dont have a horse in this race.  This info came to me before his account posted the subtle message.   Its legit. But call me a fire starter.  It will be announced soon


https://twitter.com/jusbuckets_5?s=09

Point out the "subtle message". Or stfu
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 16, 2021, 06:21:00 PM

https://twitter.com/jusbuckets_5?s=09

Point out the "subtle message". Or stfu

Purely tea leaf reading but he (as well as Symir) unfollowed Wojo on Instagram
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 16, 2021, 06:24:10 PM
I dont have a horse in this race.  This info came to me before his account posted the subtle message.   Its legit. But call me a fire starter.  It will be announced soon

You also said in that thread "wojo packing as we speak".  So lemme just go out on a limb and say you just like the fame of this thread and wanted to stir the pot again.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 16, 2021, 06:31:23 PM
I have no specific timelines on this but the same source for the wojo speculation revealed the lewis info to me today. 

Hes gone guys.  Its not tea leaf reading i dont give a rip.   I could care less about getting things riled up here but its happening. 

You can all kiss my feet when the announcement comes and thank me for my mu hot news connections.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 16, 2021, 06:33:43 PM
I have no specific timelines on this but the same source for the wojo speculation

lol, solid source bro
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 16, 2021, 06:35:03 PM

https://twitter.com/jusbuckets_5?s=09

Point out the "subtle message". Or stfu


My bad it was insta not twitter.   

Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Japabound on March 16, 2021, 06:35:37 PM
People here are soooo quick to jump on one for sharing info. You are right Lewis is gone. Let me see the apologies in the next messages to you for trying to give a heads up. I doubt hiding behind computers they will be man enough to say sorry.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 5DollarPitcher on March 16, 2021, 06:37:33 PM
Wojo is a circus clown
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: nyg on March 16, 2021, 06:39:35 PM
I have no specific timelines on this but the same source for the wojo speculation revealed the lewis info to me today. 

Hes gone guys.  Its not tea leaf reading i dont give a rip.   I could care less about getting things riled up here but its happening. 

You can all kiss my feet when the announcement comes and thank me for my mu hot news connections.

You were not speculating regarding Wojo, you stated he was done.  Big difference. 

Speculation of players leaving the program is dangerous and results in detrimental postings.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: jesmu84 on March 16, 2021, 06:39:44 PM
People here are soooo quick to jump on one for sharing info. You are right Lewis is gone. Let me see the apologies in the next messages to you for trying to give a heads up. I doubt hiding behind computers they will be man enough to say sorry.

I jump on someone who says the evidence is on "fill in the blank" website when there's no evidence there.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: CountryRoads on March 16, 2021, 06:41:52 PM
If true that should be the final death blow to Wojo: Blowjo

Yup, I wanted the hack gone at 4pm last Wednesday but it would put an end to the few people left who are saying “well, with carton, Garcia, and Lewis coming back...”
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 16, 2021, 06:43:57 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3ornjM1r314mIh5ZK0/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 16, 2021, 06:58:17 PM
Perhaps alverno college would be a good destination for wojo

Hey Deane. 

Cheers!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Viper on March 16, 2021, 07:05:41 PM
Beilein would be my first choice. But Would be alright with 2003 One Shining Moment MU Video Star and TBT Champion Coach Joe Chapman too.
add Todd Townsend to the staff? He’s got D-1 assistant coaching experience and resides here in metro-Mke.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 16, 2021, 07:16:02 PM
Biden is 78.



How old is Denny Crum, hey?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: mug644 on March 16, 2021, 07:18:42 PM
I have no specific timelines on this but the same source for the wojo speculation revealed the lewis info to me today. 

Hes gone guys.  Its not tea leaf reading i dont give a rip.   I could care less about getting things riled up here but its happening. 

You can all kiss my feet when the announcement comes and thank me for my mu hot news connections.

You've made your point. Now, please sit back, be quiet and wait for the announcement. It's the mature thing to do.

Should that happen, you'll get to gloat. It will be the immature thing you'll do.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 16, 2021, 07:19:13 PM
Marquette is in this position because of their own making.  Throw Covid out, everything else being the same, some fool decided to give Wojo a contract extension complete with a pricey buyout after the 2018-19 season where the team disintegrated down the stretch and may have been over-rated going into that fateful decline.  Someone valued it more than what it really was and now we have to cut off our arm to get out of the handcuffs that extension has placed on the school.  It's easy to say Covid has an impact and it does to an extent.  However, we were destined to be in this situation no matter what the day they extended him so we were going to have to cut him a check no matter what.  The only difference is that Covid has made it difficult to pony up the funds.

It's hard to expect the guy whose lack of game coaching that's primarily responsible for our current state is suddenly going to be able to right the ship and fix it when he has never done such a thing.  As of right now, Wojo's career coaching accomplishments amount to grinding a program into the ground.  Wojo wasn't a good hire in the beginning, once they pulled the trigger on him, they were pretty much stuck seeing if it would amount to anything.  After year 5, it was evident, but the school doubled down on a poor hire then and here we are.  Hoping and praying instead of being in control of our destiny. 

Many people will say they had to do what they did in May 2019.  They didn't have to do anything.  In fact that was one instance where doing nothing would have been better than doing anything.  However in March 2021, because the school did something in May 2019, They actually need to do something now.  Doing nothing now would likely be far worse than doing something.




Yeah, MU wuz biddin' against itself, aina?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 16, 2021, 07:22:04 PM
I can verify there are no "For Sale" signs, this evening at Woj's crib, hey?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Ardmore Mug on March 16, 2021, 07:22:27 PM
NM
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NickelDimer on March 16, 2021, 07:23:12 PM
Lewis will most likely be Transferring ! ! ! He was not liked very much and a poor locker room teammate ! ! !  8-)
Classy ! ! ! !
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 16, 2021, 07:23:30 PM
Taught he and Woj had da Baltimore connection thin' goin' on, hey?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 5DollarPitcher on March 16, 2021, 08:09:21 PM
NM
He deleted it but I’m sure many saw this no lifer posted preemptively putting the blame on Lewis as a locker room problem (mature).

I’m 100% sure this guy is compromised as far as knowing Wojo, friends with the family, friends with an assistant coach, hard to say. But it makes me believe the Lewis transfer is true.

Hope the Wojo’s continue to invite you to dinner, Guzicka!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 16, 2021, 08:11:23 PM
He deleted it but I’m sure many saw this no lifer posted preemptively putting the blame on Lewis as a locker room problem (mature).

I’m 100% sure this guy is compromised as far as knowing Wojo, friends with the family, friends with an assistant coach, hard to say. But it makes me believe the Lewis transfer is true.

Hope the Wojo’s continue to invite you to dinner, Guzicka!

Lol
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Steve Buscemi on March 16, 2021, 08:18:16 PM
He deleted it but I’m sure many saw this no lifer posted preemptively putting the blame on Lewis as a locker room problem (mature).

I’m 100% sure this guy is compromised as far as knowing Wojo, friends with the family, friends with an assistant coach, hard to say. But it makes me believe the Lewis transfer is true.

Hope the Wojo’s continue to invite you to dinner, Guzicka!

He's texting the Wojo's right now:  "Steve, it's not me, I swear ! ! !"
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 16, 2021, 08:23:55 PM
add Todd Townsend to the staff? He’s got D-1 assistant coaching experience and resides here in metro-Mke.
Agree I spoke with Todd last year and My Family has done work with Todd inMilwaukee. Do not know about his coaching but he is a solid person.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 16, 2021, 08:30:42 PM
add Todd Townsend to the staff? He’s got D-1 assistant coaching experience and resides here in metro-Mke.

I like Todd. Good dude, good experience. Where was he this past season after leaving Valpo?

How about Jon Harris? Assistant at GB, Mo State, Tennessee, and Cal, head coach at SIU-Edwardsville, an extremely difficult job. He’d bring toughness, smarts, experience to our bigs.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Warrior_2002 on March 16, 2021, 08:36:14 PM
I like Todd. Good dude, good experience. Where was he this past season after leaving Valpo?

How about Jon Harris? Assistant at GB, Mo State, Tennessee, and Cal, head coach at SIU-Edwardsville, an extremely difficult job. He’d bring toughness, smarts, experience to our bigs.

Jon Harris also super good dude.  Had drama lit with him as an elective.  Attended a couple plays as part of the class with him.  Friends used to make fun of me for my “date” with Jon Harris lol
Definitely would bring toughness to this team.  Rather he come along with a new coach.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Viper on March 16, 2021, 08:38:38 PM
I like Todd. Good dude, good experience. Where was he this past season after leaving Valpo?

How about Jon Harris? Assistant at GB, Mo State, Tennessee, and Cal, head coach at SIU-Edwardsville, an extremely difficult job. He’d bring toughness, smarts, experience to our bigs.
TT was out of the game the past year or two. I believe he’s an insurance/risk mngt  broker in the Milwaukee area. Solid guy.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 16, 2021, 08:59:13 PM
TT was out of the game the past year or two. I believe he’s an insurance/risk mngt  broker in the Milwaukee area. Solid guy.

Correct.   Him and Fitz are coworkers.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JWags85 on March 16, 2021, 09:03:40 PM
Correct.   Him and Fitz are coworkers.

Wasn’t Fitz working for the Athletic Dept in some capacity?  I remember seeing him at the FF with credentials fairly often
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 16, 2021, 09:27:40 PM
Correct.   Him and Fitz are coworkers.
Idaho State Dan My Man. Purchased his stuff in the Blue and Gold Auction a couple weeks ago. Another Solid Person.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2021, 09:59:44 PM
So what have we learned?  Would Wojo Wander West? 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 79Warrior on March 16, 2021, 10:06:14 PM
So what have we learned?  Would Wojo Wander West?

We are learning Wojo will be back for yet another season.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Warrior_2002 on March 16, 2021, 10:09:21 PM
We are learning Wojo will be back for yet another season.

Totally.  Though I can’t take my eyes off scoop these last few days.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2021, 10:15:00 PM
We are learning Wojo will be back for yet another season.

How much can we take or will it take?  Should I cash out my bitcoins?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 16, 2021, 10:24:59 PM
How much can we take or will it take?  Should I cash out my bitcoins?


Just send them to me and I’ll see what I can do.   ;)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: pbiflyer on March 16, 2021, 10:25:36 PM
We are learning Wojo will be back for yet another season.

We learned it was Lewis that wrote the letter!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 16, 2021, 10:47:28 PM
We learned it was Lewis that wrote the letter!

No Lewis tweets or IG posts us Gen X and older dudes can misinterpret?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: pbiflyer on March 16, 2021, 10:50:10 PM
No Lewis tweets or IG posts us Gen X and older dudes can misinterpret?

That’s the magic of a letter. It can say whatever we want it to say!

https://images.app.goo.gl/axcjYHuu1xs9jRA78
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MuggsyB on March 16, 2021, 10:52:26 PM
I'm a bit concerned nothing will happen. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 16, 2021, 11:20:49 PM
Deanes is a clown and a troll, but sure hope he’s wrong on Lewis.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 16, 2021, 11:45:38 PM
Deanes is a clown and a troll, but sure hope he’s wrong on Lewis.

I just realized this is not the MikeDeanesDarkGlasses that I was originally assuming (bad naming choice by this guy), though I don't know that it makes him anymore credible. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 17, 2021, 12:17:10 AM
I just realized this is not the MikeDeanesDarkGlasses that I was originally assuming (bad naming choice by this guy), though I don't know that it makes him anymore credible.

I think I dislike the former, but seat belt i have told the latter in a post-gameto enjoy the sweet embrace of an exhaust pipe. So, same sides of the coin?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Marquette4life on March 17, 2021, 01:09:23 AM
On justin Lewis Instagram story he reposted Symir torrences transfer post with these emojis. 💔 😢. This would indicate that he is sad Symir is leaving him. Which would mean lewis staying. From what I saw Marquette baskeyball is still in his bio and he follows all the players. Just unfollowed wojo. Maybe wojo gone and he stays?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2021, 01:44:11 AM
Just unfollowed wojo.

Unless you're certain that's true, hard to prove on Instagram.  I don't see he's following Wojo now (don't know that he ever did), but he is following Broeker and Wojo's wife - uh oh!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: willie warrior on March 17, 2021, 05:08:02 AM
I think I dislike the former, but seat belt i have told the latter in a post-gameto enjoy the sweet embrace of an exhaust pipe. So, same sides of the coin?
Mike Deane would look better coaching MU than the current incumbent. BTW, is he still alive and available?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 17, 2021, 05:52:54 AM
With all the speculation going on here, who really cares at this point who stays (i.e coaches and players) or who goes; the program desperately requires a course correction. If that means starting from scratch so be it.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 17, 2021, 06:02:03 AM
No "For Sale" signs dis mornin', hey?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2021, 06:27:04 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/rick-pitino-has-brutally-honest-comment-on-indiana-job/ar-BB1eEtwA?li=BBnb7Kz

Pitino says he is not interested in the Indiana or any other job.    Retirement is his next option.    If you choose to believe him.   
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Viper on March 17, 2021, 06:33:42 AM
Unless you're certain that's true, hard to prove on Instagram.  I don't see he's following Wojo now (don't know that he ever did), but he is following Broeker and Wojo's wife - uh oh!
hmm. Well, Delonte West used to ‘follow’ LeBron’s mom, and everything was ok there🤨, so i’d say Lewis following Wojo’s wife is a definite positive that he stays.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 17, 2021, 06:34:22 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/rick-pitino-has-brutally-honest-comment-on-indiana-job/ar-BB1eEtwA?li=BBnb7Kz

Pitino says he is not interested in the Indiana or any other job.    Retirement is his next option.    If you choose to believe him.

I do not.  Saying he’s a candidate for another job would kill his team’s spirit.  He wants to win this weekend.

That said, he’s probably being truthful about not wanting Indiana.  He’s already been at a blue blood and wouldn’t be star struck if they made an offer, and he knows what a pressure cooker that particular gig is.

I’d be shocked if he ended his career at Iona.  Like, one of the more shocking sports things in recent memory.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2021, 06:58:18 AM
Sad to log on this morning and see that all the rich MU alums here on Scoop still haven't ponied up so that MU's administration could take a dump on Wojo's forehead.

Let'$ go, boy$ and girl$!!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2021, 07:12:38 AM
Sad to log on this morning and see that all the rich MU alums here on Scoop still haven't ponied up so that MU's administration could take a dump on Wojo's forehead.

Let'$ go, boy$ and girl$!!

At this point, it’s obvious the alum and boosters don’t care about Marquette basketball. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 17, 2021, 07:19:01 AM
Every single program that @CoachingChanges listed as top flammable hot seats (Minnesota, Iowa State, DePaul, Indiana and George Mason) entering this cycle has fired their head coach.

Marquette is the lone program listed in this grouping that has yet, or will have not, done so.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 🏀 on March 17, 2021, 07:23:20 AM
At this point, it’s obvious the alum and boosters don’t care about Marquette basketball. 

Utah and UNLV are the real cowards here.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2021, 07:26:30 AM
Every single program that @CoachingChanges listed as top flammable hot seats (Minnesota, Iowa State, DePaul, Indiana and George Mason) entering this cycle has fired their head coach.

Marquette is the lone program listed in this grouping that has yet, or will have not, done so.

Wow
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2021, 07:28:41 AM
Every single program that @CoachingChanges listed as top flammable hot seats (Minnesota, Iowa State, DePaul, Indiana and George Mason) entering this cycle has fired their head coach.

Marquette is the lone program listed in this grouping that has yet, or will have not, done so.

I'd ask if that means Wojo wasn't actually on a "flammable hot seat," but so many Scoopers have emerged to say sources tell them he's gone that it would be a silly question.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Herman Cain on March 17, 2021, 07:50:21 AM
It is a new day and we need to keep fanning the flames of the Pitino to MU rumors. Once we get some inertia behind them it becomes a reality .
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 17, 2021, 07:54:12 AM
Herman

I'll keep on fanning the flames. We had a family dinner last night and Rick was the topic of the evening. Three generations of Warrior fans were all on board. Most fun we have had talking MU ball in a long time. First conversation that did not end quickly in regards to the program and it was fun dreaming about what a Rick led MU program would look like next season.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: willie warrior on March 17, 2021, 07:55:21 AM
Every single program that @CoachingChanges listed as top flammable hot seats (Minnesota, Iowa State, DePaul, Indiana and George Mason) entering this cycle has fired their head coach.

Marquette is the lone program listed in this grouping that has yet, or will have not, done so.
MU cant....because covid....or lack of a pair.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2021, 07:59:28 AM
Yes, but is the word still swirling?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 17, 2021, 08:00:30 AM
Herman

I'll keep on fanning the flames. We had a family dinner last night and Rick was the topic of the evening. Three generations of Warrior fans were all on board. Most fun we have had talking MU ball in a long time. First conversation that did not end quickly in regards to the program and it was fun dreaming about what a Rick led MU program would look like next season.


I'm glad an unrealistic message board-fueled fantasy made your family dinner more enjoyable.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: cheebs09 on March 17, 2021, 08:06:37 AM
I think Coaching Changes Twitter wants MU to open. I voted next year btw.

https://twitter.com/coachingchanges/status/1372170280697741316?s=21
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2021, 08:08:09 AM
Every single program that @CoachingChanges listed as top flammable hot seats (Minnesota, Iowa State, DePaul, Indiana and George Mason) entering this cycle has fired their head coach.

Marquette is the lone program listed in this grouping that has yet, or will have not, done so.

4/5 of those had significantly smaller buyouts and coaches that performed significantly worse than Wojo. The 5th is Indiana who had a booster pay the buyout, is a large state football institution, and had a coach who at best was on par with Wojo. Coaching changes may end up being correct, I don't think the decision has been made yet, but if there was one they were going to be wrong about, it was Marquette.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2021, 08:09:13 AM
I think Coaching Changes Twitter wants MU to open. I voted next year btw.

https://twitter.com/coachingchanges/status/1372170280697741316?s=21

The administration wasn't going to do anything. But now that Coaching Changes Twitter is involved, I'm sure that will spur them to action!

I was disappointed that "Already #donedeal" wasn't an option.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 17, 2021, 08:09:51 AM
It is a new day and we need to keep fanning the flames of the Pitino to MU rumors. Once we get some inertia behind them it becomes a reality .

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/lj935f7J3guGc/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 17, 2021, 08:11:49 AM
4/5 of those had significantly smaller buyouts and coaches that performed significantly worse than Wojo. The 5th is Indiana who had a booster pay the buyout, is a large state football institution, and had a coach who at best was on par with Wojo. Coaching changes may end up being correct, I don't think the decision has been made yet, but if there was one they were going to be wrong about, it was Marquette.


I am struggling with what the bolded means.  Is it because of the contract extension?  Lining up donors?  Negotiating a different buy out payment schedule?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Mu8891 on March 17, 2021, 08:13:21 AM
Willie -

You’re right.  All of the teams u listed
have canned their failing coaches
Add to the list BC and PSU ...

But the morons at MU ( Lovell and
Scholl et al ) keep putting out the message that they “ can’t “ because
Of the ‘Rona

#effingjoke
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 17, 2021, 08:16:09 AM
Fluff

Or we could discuss most of your posts and be depressed. I'll take fantasy over reality at this point in MU history,
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 17, 2021, 08:16:22 AM
Willie -

You’re right.  All of the teams u listed
have canned their failing coaches
Add to the list BC and PSU ...

But the morons at MU ( Lovell and
Scholl et al ) keep putting out the message that they “ can’t “ because
Of the ‘Rona

#effingjoke


This is really poor haiku
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on March 17, 2021, 08:16:51 AM
Biden is 78.

But can he recruit?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 17, 2021, 08:22:55 AM
Fluff

Or we could discuss most of your posts and be depressed.


Join the club.


Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: nyg on March 17, 2021, 08:23:33 AM

I'm glad an unrealistic message board-fueled fantasy made your family dinner more enjoyable.

Our family had a great dinner last night.  We discussed Rick's achievements to include:

- His suspension of 5 games in 2017 for the escort sex scandal involving recruits
- The 123 UL games vacated from 2011-2015
- The 2013 UL National Championship being vacated by NCAA
- The 2012 Final Four appearance being vacated by NCAA
- The post season ban in 2015-2016
- His implication in a Federal bribery case which earned him being fired.

Looking forward to the big time gig he will get in next few weeks. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 17, 2021, 08:25:52 AM
Our family had a great dinner last night.  We discussed Rick's achievements to include:

- His suspension of 5 games in 2017 for the escort sex scandal involving recruits
- The 123 UL games vacated from 2011-2015
- The 2013 UL National Championship being vacated by NCAA
- The 2012 Final Four appearance being vacated by NCAA
- The post season ban in 2015-2016
- His implication in a Federal bribery case which earned him being fired.

Looking forward to the big time gig he will get in next few weeks. 


Don't depress Goose.  He needs Rick so he can stop being such an Eeyore.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2021, 08:28:26 AM
Our family had a great dinner last night.  We discussed Rick's achievements to include:

- His suspension of 5 games in 2017 for the escort sex scandal involving recruits
- The 123 UL games vacated from 2011-2015
- The 2013 UL National Championship being vacated by NCAA
- The 2012 Final Four appearance being vacated by NCAA
- The post season ban in 2015-2016
- His implication in a Federal bribery case which earned him being fired.

Looking forward to the big time gig he will get in next few weeks.
So much baggage that the bellhop in 'The Secret of my Success' couldn't get it in one trip.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: We R Final Four on March 17, 2021, 08:31:26 AM
Willie -

You’re right.  All of the teams u listed
have canned their failing coaches
Add to the list BC and PSU ...

But the morons at MU ( Lovell and
Scholl et al ) keep putting out the message that they “ can’t “ because
Of the ‘Rona

#effingjoke
Have they put this message out?
I haven’t seen any commentary from either.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 17, 2021, 08:42:26 AM
But can he recruit?



First thin', ya gotta bee able ta correctly pronounce da recruit's name and no watt da hell yur doin' heer, aina?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: jficke13 on March 17, 2021, 08:45:42 AM
Our family had a great dinner last night.  We discussed Rick's achievements to include:

- His suspension of 5 games in 2017 for the escort sex scandal involving recruits
- The 123 UL games vacated from 2011-2015
- The 2013 UL National Championship being vacated by NCAA
- The 2012 Final Four appearance being vacated by NCAA
- The post season ban in 2015-2016
- His implication in a Federal bribery case which earned him being fired.

Looking forward to the big time gig he will get in next few weeks.

Look, he isn't coming, and I'm not exactly jumping up and down desperate for him to come either, but I remember when these punishments came down. I remember doing some introspection and coming to the conclusion that they weren't real penalties. The money that UL earned during his success wasn't clawed out of their hands. The memories that UL fans formed watching his teams win aren't destroyed by the NCAA (who is respected by zero people not paid to respect them) says they were "vacated."

I'm not sure that I want MU to jump in bed with this kind of mercenary attitude, but let's at least be honest about what the punishment was: line items in a wikipedia article and message board fodder and barely anything more.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 17, 2021, 08:46:18 AM
Look, he isn't coming, and I'm not exactly jumping up and down desperate for him to come either, but I remember when these punishments came down. I remember doing some introspection and coming to the conclusion that they weren't real penalties. The money that UL earned during his success wasn't clawed out of their hands. The memories that UL fans formed watching his teams win aren't destroyed by the NCAA (who is respected by zero people not paid to respect them) says they were "vacated."

I'm not sure that I want MU to jump in bed with this kind of mercenary attitude, but let's at least be honest about what the punishment was: line items in a wikipedia article and message board fodder and barely anything more.

Wait so Pitino isn’t coming?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Steve Buscemi on March 17, 2021, 08:49:20 AM
Look, he isn't coming, and I'm not exactly jumping up and down desperate for him to come either, but I remember when these punishments came down. I remember doing some introspection and coming to the conclusion that they weren't real penalties. The money that UL earned during his success wasn't clawed out of their hands. The memories that UL fans formed watching his teams win aren't destroyed by the NCAA (who is respected by zero people not paid to respect them) says they were "vacated."

I'm not sure that I want MU to jump in bed with this kind of mercenary attitude, but let's at least be honest about what the punishment was: line items in a wikipedia article and message board fodder and barely anything more.

This.  The banner was taken out of the Yum! Center and is now hanging across the street for ALL to see, lol.  What punishment?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: jficke13 on March 17, 2021, 08:49:37 AM
Wait so Pitino isn’t coming?

We should probably put a few more pages on this thread dedicated to this very topic, just to be sure.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 17, 2021, 08:55:47 AM
Forget Pitino. Tony Bennett apparently wants to come home.  We can easily make that happen.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 17, 2021, 08:56:48 AM
Wait so Pitino isn’t coming?

15 seconds and done
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2021, 08:57:32 AM
Wait so Pitino isn’t coming?
At his age, never a sure thing.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: ZiggysChestHair on March 17, 2021, 08:59:06 AM
Our family had a great dinner last night.  We discussed Rick's achievements to include:

- His suspension of 5 games in 2017 for the escort sex scandal involving recruits
- The 123 UL games vacated from 2011-2015
- The 2013 UL National Championship being vacated by NCAA
- The 2012 Final Four appearance being vacated by NCAA
- The post season ban in 2015-2016
- His implication in a Federal bribery case which earned him being fired.

Looking forward to the big time gig he will get in next few weeks.

I'm not on the Pitino bandwagon, but given the state of the program, I'd be thrilled to have a national championship vacated.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 17, 2021, 09:00:20 AM
I'm not on the Pitino bandwagon, but given the state of the program, I'd be thrilled to have a national championship vacated.

As long as it's not 1977.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: brewcity77 on March 17, 2021, 09:03:46 AM
I'd ask if that means Wojo wasn't actually on a "flammable hot seat," but so many Scoopers have emerged to say sources tell them he's gone that it would be a silly question.

The problem is for him to be on the hot seat, his bosses need to recognize there's a problem. I get the sense they didn't realize they might have some issues until just this week. In order to warm Wojo's seat, it might be necessary to light a match under the seats of the people that control his fate.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: cheebs09 on March 17, 2021, 09:04:06 AM
Forget Pitino. Tony Bennett apparently wants to come home.  We can easily make that happen.

Sam reminding him of cheese curds, summer festivals, and Culver’s finally getting him to break?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 17, 2021, 09:09:00 AM
Wait so Pitino isn’t coming?


That’s not what she said.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JWags85 on March 17, 2021, 09:09:18 AM
We should probably put a few more pages on this thread dedicated to this very topic, just to be sure.

Nah, it’s way more cool to passive aggressively mock anyone who is hopeful of change or trying to find excitement or joy in super long shot possibilities for the program instead of sitting and focusing on a lame duck coach and white knuckling it through the rest of the spring hoping for no more key transfers while desperately sending “you up?!” texts to anyone in the transfer portal.

There are no Projos left but have seemingly been replaced with a faction of throwing shade at anyone who passionately wants Wojo gone by smugly talking about how they will support him as long as he is the coach and  ::) and anyone who doesn’t pound the drum and laughing at anyone who expresses excitement over any rumors at some movement from the university.

Pitino isn’t coming regardless, we know this, but leave the rest of the smugness about the program to ND
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 17, 2021, 09:11:31 AM
The problem is for him to be on the hot seat, his bosses need to recognize there's a problem. I get the sense they didn't realize they might have some issues until just this week.


That is actually a pretty astute observation.  Because it make sense considering what was said a few weeks ago versus some of the rumors that are out there now.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: withoutbias on March 17, 2021, 09:12:21 AM
Speaking of family time and discussing MUBB, which of you were out at Devil's Lake on Saturday for a family member's birthday with a large group of multiple generations of family?  I took a picture for the group and they started asking me about my MUBB sweatshirt, asked my thoughts on Wojo, and we all agreed he's gotta gojo.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2021, 09:16:53 AM
The problem is for him to be on the hot seat, his bosses need to recognize there's a problem. I get the sense they didn't realize they might have some issues until just this week. In order to warm Wojo's seat, it might be necessary to light a match under the seats of the people that control his fate.

I don't think its a matter of not realizing the problem until just now. The vibe I'm getting is that it's more the right people not getting involved until just now. We'll see what happens. Still think he ends up with another year
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 17, 2021, 09:17:32 AM
The problem is for him to be on the hot seat, his bosses need to recognize there's a problem. I get the sense they didn't realize they might have some issues until just this week. In order to warm Wojo's seat, it might be necessary to light a match under the seats of the people that control his fate.

I said this yesterday, but it really seems like the Georgetown blowout was a tipping point.  I’ve been following MU ball for 30 years, and if Wojo is brought back, the level of disappointment, apathy, and vitriol from the fan base will be like nothing I’ve seen in my time following the program.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2021, 09:21:49 AM


First thin', ya gotta bee able ta correctly pronounce da recruit's name and no watt da hell yur doin' heer, aina?

Yeah, like Yo-Semite and Tim Apple, oona?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 79Warrior on March 17, 2021, 09:22:12 AM

I am struggling with what the bolded means.  Is it because of the contract extension?  Lining up donors?  Negotiating a different buy out payment schedule?

Every day that goes by makes it less likely a change is coming. Nobody needs more time to realize Wojo has been a bust. Outside of getting the dough to buy out Wojo, Scholl could be poking around behind the scenes. Maybe he does not feel good abut potential candidates who would be interested. Anything is possible.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Farley36 on March 17, 2021, 09:24:00 AM
I said this yesterday, but it really seems like the Georgetown blowout was a tipping point.  I’ve been following MU ball for 30 years, and if Wojo is brought back, the level of disappointment, apathy, and vitriol from the fan base will be like nothing I’ve seen in my time following the program.

You’re wrong.  The experts on this board have made 2 things crystal clear.

1.  One game doesn’t have any affect on firing/retaining a coach.

2.  The opinions of fans don’t matter at all.

Therefore Georgetown had no impact on anything and it is irrelevant that fans will be disappointed, apathetic, angry, etc
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: LAZER on March 17, 2021, 09:24:36 AM
The problem is for him to be on the hot seat, his bosses need to recognize there's a problem. I get the sense they didn't realize they might have some issues until just this week. In order to warm Wojo's seat, it might be necessary to light a match under the seats of the people that control his fate.
I hope this isn't the case.  If it is, it highlights a larger problem.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: brewcity77 on March 17, 2021, 09:25:46 AM
I don't think its a matter of not realizing the problem until just now. The vibe I'm getting is that it's more the right people not getting involved until just now. We'll see what happens. Still think he ends up with another year

Could be, but I feel pretty confident saying they became more acutely aware there's an issue recently. Whether that's a realization from within or without, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: jficke13 on March 17, 2021, 09:27:16 AM
I said this yesterday, but it really seems like the Georgetown blowout was a tipping point.  I’ve been following MU ball for 30 years, and if Wojo is brought back, the level of disappointment, apathy, and vitriol from the fan base will be like nothing I’ve seen in my time following the program.

I do wonder about this because... it might not actually pan out that way?

Selection bias is real, and my gut says that the Online MUBB Fan is way more apt to contribute anti-Wojo vitriol in an observable way. So, as Online MUBB Fans, we all are susceptible to thinking that is the norm/majority of fans out there. But is it? I'm thinking of my parents who've been season ticket holders since the 70s and they might be ready to move on from Wojo, they're emphatically not Online, and I would be stunned if they started booing or otherwise registering their disappointment in an observable way.

Also, (and I guess this feeds into apathy) but some of the most vitriolic/disappointed fans are going to nope out of season tickets... well... empty seats don't boo. So it might just look like "well, demand is down due to lingering COVID apprehension."

I think you're right but I also kind of think that the way it manifests is going to be less dramatic than we're all imagining right now.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 17, 2021, 09:28:46 AM
Could be, but I feel pretty confident saying they became more acutely aware there's an issue recently. Whether that's a realization from within or without, I'm not sure.

Wow. Just wow.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: cheebs09 on March 17, 2021, 09:29:14 AM
Every day that goes by makes it less likely a change is coming. Nobody needs more time to realize Wojo has been a bust. Outside of getting the dough to buy out Wojo, Scholl could be poking around behind the scenes. Maybe he does not feel good abut potential candidates who would be interested. Anything is possible.

I would think it’s helped that the main top candidates haven’t been hired yet. At least from a list of Gates, Moser, Craig Smith. That may give some breathing room. Although with Minnesota and Utah opening up, we might be starting to have competition for our would be too candidates.

I suppose until teams start getting knocked out of the tourney, the coaching searches won’t be heating up.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2021, 09:29:30 AM
So many words are swirling now! This is getting so exciting!

(https://media.tenor.com/images/770677cd60b3107111f82a5751e001db/tenor.gif)

Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 17, 2021, 09:32:49 AM
Nah, it’s way more cool to passive aggressively mock anyone who is hopeful of change or trying to find excitement or joy in super long shot possibilities for the program instead of sitting and focusing on a lame duck coach and white knuckling it through the rest of the spring hoping for no more key transfers while desperately sending “you up?!” texts to anyone in the transfer portal.

There are no Projos left but have seemingly been replaced with a faction of throwing shade at anyone who passionately wants Wojo gone by smugly talking about how they will support him as long as he is the coach and  ::) and anyone who doesn’t pound the drum and laughing at anyone who expresses excitement over any rumors at some movement from the university.

Pitino isn’t coming regardless, we know this, but leave the rest of the smugness about the program to ND

Yep - perfectly stated. Incredibly obnoxious and just a regurgitation of nothing info.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 17, 2021, 09:34:46 AM
Nah, it’s way more cool to passive aggressively mock anyone who is hopeful of change or trying to find excitement or joy in super long shot possibilities for the program instead of sitting and focusing on a lame duck coach and white knuckling it through the rest of the spring hoping for no more key transfers while desperately sending “you up?!” texts to anyone in the transfer portal.

There are no Projos left but have seemingly been replaced with a faction of throwing shade at anyone who passionately wants Wojo gone by smugly talking about how they will support him as long as he is the coach and  ::) and anyone who doesn’t pound the drum and laughing at anyone who expresses excitement over any rumors at some movement from the university.

Pitino isn’t coming regardless, we know this, but leave the rest of the smugness about the program to ND

Unless tower912 has flipped in the past day we still have a massive projo on the board.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Daniel on March 17, 2021, 09:36:26 AM
If donations and fund-raising drop off significantly, and ticket sales plummet - that will get the attention of the powers that be.  What we rant about and say doesn’t matter.  Money does though.  MU men’s basketball drives the sports bus at MU.   They need its revenue. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2021, 09:37:37 AM
Unless tower912 has flipped in the past day we still have a MASSIVE projo on the board.

Hey, that is COVID weight.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 17, 2021, 09:38:59 AM
Hey, that is COVID weight.

Gotta only get to bmi of 25 now! Just put some rocks in your pocket.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 17, 2021, 09:40:29 AM
I hope this isn't the case.  If it is, it highlights a larger problem.


This could be where not having fans and boosters at games means they didn't have their ears to the ground.  Furthermore, I think A LOT of people turned on Wojo the last six weeks of the season.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: fjm on March 17, 2021, 09:42:50 AM
It is unfortunate.
I really do think Wojo is a great guy, with MU and his players best interests at heart. But he hasn’t gotten the job done. I was very projo until mid season this year with the loss to X, DePaul... the GTOWN loss was devastating.

I sent an email this morning to multiple people in the athletic department informing them that I am a proud MU alum but for the first time since graduating I will not be purchasing MU season tickets this year because of the lack of faith in the teams future and lack of support behind a putting a winning team on the court.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 17, 2021, 09:44:11 AM

This could be where not having fans and boosters at games means they didn't have their ears to the ground.  Furthermore, I think A LOT of people turned on Wojo the last six weeks of the season.



A LOT of people turned on Wojo the last six years, hey?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 17, 2021, 09:45:12 AM

This could be where not having fans and boosters at games means they didn't have their ears to the ground.  Furthermore, I think A LOT of people turned on Wojo the last six weeks of the season.

What exactly was worse about the last 6 weeks of this season compared to the last 4 weeks of the previous 2 seasons?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: jficke13 on March 17, 2021, 09:51:06 AM
What exactly was worse about the last 6 weeks of this season compared to the last 4 weeks of the previous 2 seasons?

I'm not sure anything did, but straws and camels' backs and all.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 17, 2021, 09:52:02 AM
What exactly was worse about the last 6 weeks of this season compared to the last 4 weeks of the previous 2 seasons?

I’m with you, but the third time in three years with a collapse was nail in the coffin for a lot of those on the fence.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 17, 2021, 09:58:47 AM
Those first two years ended with a NCAA bid.  Last year was incomplete.  Yeah, straw and camel's back.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 17, 2021, 10:02:57 AM
Those first two years ended with a NCAA bid.  Last year was incomplete.  Yeah, straw and camel's back.

Not sure if ya mean 17-18... but that season ended with an nit. 18-19 went from a 2 seed to a 5 seed one and done. 19-20 would have been very similar but an even lower seed.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 17, 2021, 10:04:29 AM
Not sure if ya mean 17-18... but that season ended with an nit. 18-19 went from a 2 seed to a 5 seed one and done. 19-20 would have been very similar but an even lower seed.

Pretty sure we weren't a 2 seed. We were the top 3 seed and when the losing streak started the teams that we needed to lose to get a two seed started losing as well. So it was more "we would've been a 2 seed" than "we were a 2 seed"
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Viper on March 17, 2021, 10:08:26 AM


First thin', ya gotta bee able ta correctly pronounce da recruit's name and no watt da hell yur doin' heer, aina?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 17, 2021, 10:10:25 AM
Not sure if ya mean 17-18... but that season ended with an nit. 18-19 went from a 2 seed to a 5 seed one and done. 19-20 would have been very similar but an even lower seed.


Lennys said the previous two seasons.  I was referring to the previous two seasons.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Viper on March 17, 2021, 10:10:50 AM
At his age, never a sure thing.
badabing
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 79Warrior on March 17, 2021, 10:17:58 AM
I would think it’s helped that the main top candidates haven’t been hired yet. At least from a list of Gates, Moser, Craig Smith. That may give some breathing room. Although with Minnesota and Utah opening up, we might be starting to have competition for our would be too candidates.

I suppose until teams start getting knocked out of the tourney, the coaching searches won’t be heating up.

You might be right. It has been a long time since MU hired an established coach though.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 17, 2021, 10:19:20 AM
Pretty sure we weren't a 2 seed. We were the top 3 seed and when the losing streak started the teams that we needed to lose to get a two seed started losing as well. So it was more "we would've been a 2 seed" than "we were a 2 seed"

Marquette was #9 when the streak started. Had they won a majority of those games, they were a 2 seed.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Lens on March 17, 2021, 10:21:39 AM
My offline MU community wants Wojo gone, just as much as this online community. 

Alums from the '60s, '70s, '80s & '90s and beyond.  Their attitudes mirror this board; everyone wants him gone; the debate is whether MU pulls the plug this year or next. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 17, 2021, 10:25:13 AM
Marquette was #9 when the streak started. Had they won a majority of those games, they were a 2 seed.

Isn't this literally what I just wrote? I'm just correcting that we weren't a 2 seed when it started. By the time that everything fell into place that we would've been, we had already started losing like crazy.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 17, 2021, 10:30:36 AM
I’m with you, but the third time in three years with a collapse was nail in the coffin for a lot of those on the fence.

Your math is wrong.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: cheebs09 on March 17, 2021, 10:31:18 AM
My offline MU community wants Wojo gone, just as much as this online community. 

Alums from the '60s, '70s, '80s & '90s and beyond.  Their attitudes mirror this board; everyone wants him gone; the debate is whether MU pulls the plug this year or next.

I think the offline community was done with Wojo before the online community to be honest. Just based on comments in passing at the FF or friends who don’t follow the program that closely.

I think the online fans saw some potential in the future recruiting classes and the offensive efficiency.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 17, 2021, 10:36:35 AM
Your math is wrong.

How so?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 17, 2021, 10:42:49 AM
I think the offline community was done with Wojo before the online community to be honest. Just based on comments in passing at the FF or friends who don’t follow the program that closely.

I think the online fans saw some potential in the future recruiting classes and the offensive efficiency.

I agree.

Also, I find the MU foot dragging and indecision incredible if true.  Shyt or or get off the pot with this transfer market heating up...or the good coaches with the good coaches snapped up. MU Admin is <again> quagmired it appears.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: brewcity77 on March 17, 2021, 10:58:57 AM
Isn't this literally what I just wrote? I'm just correcting that we weren't a 2 seed when it started. By the time that everything fell into place that we would've been, we had already started losing like crazy.

Yup. I had us at #10 on my S-Curve (http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2019/02/mid-major-madness.html) when it started. There was a definite path to a two, but we weren't there yet.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2021, 11:02:29 AM
When we woke up on Wednesday, Feb. 27, 2019, Marquette was 23-4. We were ranked No. 9 in the nation. We had won our previous 4 games, 12 of our previous 13, and 20 of our previous 22. Markus and Sam were studs, and we were getting solid contributions from several role players. We were locks for our second NCAA tournament in 3 years, and national talking heads were saying we were a sure 3-seed with a very realistic shot at being a 2.

We were 12-2 in the Big East. Villanova was 11-4; after a 10-0 start, they were 1-4 in a stretch that began with a loss to Marquette. If we beat Villanova again that night, we would have all but clinched the regular-season conference title.

I did not write all of that to make any claim about what has transpired since -- the 2019 collapse, the humiliation against Ja, Hausershima, the 2020 collapse, this pathetic season, the embarrassment against GTown. Other than a few moments of (false) hope, these last 2 years and 20-ish days have blown bigly. I thought Wojo should have been sent packing an hour after the DePaul loss. I want him gone.

But the narrative some have that it's been a 7-year suck and that only a few idiots thought the program was progressing well under Wojo ... please.

We can now return to our regularly scheduled program, Rick Pitino, Come On Down (insert own pun).


Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 17, 2021, 11:05:47 AM
Indeed, what were we, preseason #2 before the Hausers left? Wojo has got to go, it's just a matter of when, but there was some real optimism for a while.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Herman Cain on March 17, 2021, 11:06:35 AM
When we woke up on Wednesday, Feb. 27, 2019, Marquette was 23-4. We were ranked No. 9 in the nation. We had won our previous 4 games, 12 of our previous 13, and 20 of our previous 22. Markus and Sam were studs, and we were getting solid contributions from several role players. We were locks for our second NCAA tournament in 3 years, and national talking heads were saying we were a sure 3-seed with a very realistic shot at being a 2.

We were 12-2 in the Big East. Villanova was 11-4; after a 10-0 start, they were 1-4 in a stretch that began with a loss to Marquette. If we beat Villanova again that night, we would have all but clinched the regular-season conference title.

I did not write all of that to make any claim about what has transpired since -- the 2019 collapse, the humiliation against Ja, Hausershima, the 2020 collapse, this pathetic season, the embarrassment against GTown. Other than a few moments of (false) hope, these last 2 years and 20-ish days have blown bigly. I thought Wojo should have been sent packing an hour after the DePaul loss. I want him gone.

But the narrative some have that it's been a 7-year suck and that only a few idiots thought the program was progressing well under Wojo ... please.

We can now return to our regularly scheduled program, Rick Pitino, Come On Down (insert own pun).
For your listening pleasure...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13tnjh3dZw4
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 17, 2021, 11:09:40 AM
Indeed, what were we, preseason #2 before the Hausers left? Wojo has got to go, it's just a matter of when, but there was some real optimism for a while few weeks.

FIFY
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 17, 2021, 11:14:26 AM

We can now return to our regularly scheduled program, Rick Pitino, Come On Down (insert own pun).

Why just Pitino? Let's go get Sean Miller. Proven success at Xavier and Arizona, he's younger and will be at MU longer. And, he's sex scandal(s) free!

And Will Wade. He'd be good too. 4 NCAA tournaments (would have been in last year too), two conference titles, and a career 67% winning percentage. Let's make him a big ass offer. And he didn't run a brothel on campus.

Come on, MU, we though we sold our soul with Buzz, let's go even further and get this program shut down!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: brewcity77 on March 17, 2021, 11:30:43 AM
We were 12-2 in the Big East. Villanova was 11-4; after a 10-0 start, they were 1-4 in a stretch that began with a loss to Marquette. If we beat Villanova again that night, we would have all but clinched the regular-season conference title.

I did not write all of that to make any claim about what has transpired since -- the 2019 collapse, the humiliation against Ja, Hausershima, the 2020 collapse, this pathetic season, the embarrassment against GTown. Other than a few moments of (false) hope, these last 2 years and 20-ish days have blown bigly. I thought Wojo should have been sent packing an hour after the DePaul loss. I want him gone.

Had we won that game, we would've been 13-2, 'Nova would've been 11-5, and we would've had the tiebreaker with the season sweep. That would've clinched the title.

But as you note, it's the since then that's the problem. 16-25 in Big East play. 1-4 in postseason games with the only win over kenpom #88 St. John's. Three separate stretches of 6 losses in 7 games. Clearly not good.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Goose on March 17, 2021, 11:54:21 AM
82

Your facts on the '18-'19 season are correct, but I do think a tad misleading. IMO, our collapse probably brought our overall record to where it should have been for the season. They were not as good as there record showed on 2/27 and not as bad as they ended the season. Looking back on that season they were better than I gave them credit for at the time and probably were a top 30-35 team that year.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2021, 12:10:17 PM
82

Your facts on the '18-'19 season are correct, but I do think a tad misleading. IMO, our collapse probably brought our overall record to where it should have been for the season. They were not as good as there record showed on 2/27 and not as bad as they ended the season. Looking back on that season they were better than I gave them credit for at the time and probably were a top 30-35 team that year.

Understood, Goose. There was a ton of optimism, as there should have been. Even many of those who had doubted Wojo were excited about that season.

Unfortunately, as brew says ...

it's the since then that's the problem. 16-25 in Big East play. 1-4 in postseason games with the only win over kenpom #88 St. John's. Three separate stretches of 6 losses in 7 games. Clearly not good.

Total suckage.

Oh, and thanks for the correction on a win over Nova clinching the title. That just makes it even tougher to take. We had that game, and a few others down the stretch, but blew 'em.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2021, 12:12:45 PM
No "For Sale" signs dis mornin', hey?

More importantly "off market" on redfin.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2021, 12:15:29 PM
More importantly "off market" on redfin.

Exactly. Many folks don't want for-sale signs in their yards, especially well-known folks.

But it's gonna happen, rocky. The donors are getting their $$$$ lined up even as we speak.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: cheebs09 on March 17, 2021, 12:16:48 PM
More importantly "off market" on redfin.

If it’s anything like a few years ago, if you’re waiting for it on Redfin, it’s already sold. I figure 4Ever has some ins with the high end real estate market that he’ll get a heads up before anyone else.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 17, 2021, 12:19:54 PM
Correct.   Him and Fitz are coworkers.
Coached Dan’s Relative in football
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 17, 2021, 12:35:48 PM
If it’s anything like a few years ago, if you’re waiting for it on Redfin, it’s already sold. I figure 4Ever has some ins with the high end real estate market that he’ll get a heads up before anyone else.

It's even more nuts (at least in Chicago). I only got my house last year because we made an offer the day before listing. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 17, 2021, 12:43:37 PM
It's even more nuts (at least in Chicago). I only got my house last year because we made an offer the day before listing.

Had an old farm house on 4 acres that was listed at 260k. I offered 265k and really wanted it because it reminded me of my childhood neighborhood. The owners called me and asked if I could go to 290k. I said my max budget was 280k. They took a week to decide and ended up going with the other offer. It sold for 340k
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 17, 2021, 12:44:59 PM
Four Power 5 public schools have committed to a combined total of as much as $24.175 million in buyouts to fired men's basketball head coaches (Minnesota's $1.75M buyout to Richard Pitino will be mitigated by his new deal with New Mexico).
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: joparks on March 17, 2021, 12:50:16 PM
The problem is for him to be on the hot seat, his bosses need to recognize there's a problem. I get the sense they didn't realize they might have some issues until just this week. In order to warm Wojo's seat, it might be necessary to light a match under the seats of the people that control his fate.

100% agree.  If Wojo wasn't feeling any heat, the people above him should also be feeling it.  Perhaps more because they allowed it to fester.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: WarriorFan on March 17, 2021, 01:06:01 PM
he gone yet?  I checked 9 pages ago, and he was still around.   Now it's up to page 18... he gone yet?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: jficke13 on March 17, 2021, 01:13:33 PM
he gone yet?  I checked 9 pages ago, and he was still around.   Now it's up to page 18... he gone yet?

We've been (internet) reliably informed the donors are just lining up the $. Should happen in another 9 pages or so.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 17, 2021, 01:18:31 PM
Wake me up when it's a #donedeal aina?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 17, 2021, 01:20:21 PM
If it’s anything like a few years ago, if you’re waiting for it on Redfin, it’s already sold. I figure 4Ever has some ins with the high end real estate market that he’ll get a heads up before anyone else.



Yeah, eye'm gonna walk past dis weekend and cee if he's got a garage rummage sale goin' on, hey?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Viper on March 17, 2021, 01:26:51 PM


Yeah, eye'm gonna walk past dis weekend and cee if he's got a garage rummage sale goin' on, hey?
snag me a Tonka truck.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 17, 2021, 01:31:12 PM
Wake me up when it's a #donedeal aina?


I'll set my flight tracker for any private jets from Austin to Milwaukee.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 17, 2021, 01:36:40 PM
How so?

Where's the third?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 17, 2021, 01:54:31 PM
Where's the third?

From Jan 23-Feb 14, we lost 6 out of 7 games.  The collapse happened early this year, and we torpedoed our postseason chances a month before the season ended.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 🏀 on March 17, 2021, 01:56:52 PM

I'll set my flight tracker for any private jets from Austin to Milwaukee.

Everyone knows that private flights from Texas come into Waukesha, per the SMU fiasco.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 17, 2021, 01:58:50 PM
Any chance they're waiting for their preferred target(s) to finish up the tourney before making a definitive move?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 17, 2021, 02:00:22 PM
From Jan 23-Feb 14, we lost 6 out of 7 games.  The collapse happened early this year, and we torpedoed our postseason chances a month before the season ended.

This ☝️

Season was over by the time the last seven games rolled around.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 17, 2021, 02:00:28 PM
Yeah, Mark Few wants us, hey?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2021, 02:02:04 PM
Any chance they're waiting for their preferred target(s) to finish up the tourney before making a definitive move?

Possible. If I had to pick two names right now as most likely to be interviewed both are in the tournament.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 17, 2021, 02:02:46 PM
Any chance they're waiting for their preferred target(s) to finish up the tourney before making a definitive move?

Highly doubtful

When MU interviewed Duffy, it was made very clear to us that we better not say a word to anyone about it.  This was, I think one or two days after she was telling her current employer how she was happy and wanted to stay.

2 days later we brought Duffy back to Milwaukee and it was announced she’s the new women’s bb coach
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: jesmu84 on March 17, 2021, 02:11:17 PM
Possible. If I had to pick two names right now as most likely to be interviewed both are in the tournament.

And those are...?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 17, 2021, 02:11:50 PM
Possible. If I had to pick two names right now as most likely to be interviewed both are in the tournament.

Porter Moser and....? 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 17, 2021, 02:13:18 PM
Porter Moser and....?

Greg Gard
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2021, 02:15:19 PM
Porter Moser

He'll be available for an interview Monday, if not sooner.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 17, 2021, 02:17:09 PM
Porter Moser and....?

Rick Pitino. Duh.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: withoutbias on March 17, 2021, 02:19:03 PM
TB and KS.  That's who we were told the Meat Eaters would start and end their list with.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2021, 02:21:18 PM
Getting dizzy from all the swirling words!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: swoopem on March 17, 2021, 02:22:50 PM
Porter Moser and....?

Dennis Gates
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2021, 02:32:56 PM
Dennis Gates

Craig Smith, Pat Kelsey, Wes Miller, Darren DeVries, Joe Pasternack, Jeff Boals, Bryce Drew are all coaching this week
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 17, 2021, 02:33:21 PM
TB and KS.  That's who we were told the Meat Eaters would start and end their list with.

Tony Benford and Kevin Stallings?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 17, 2021, 02:35:51 PM
Craig Smith, Pat Kelsey, Wes Miller, Darren DeVries, Joe Pasternack, Jeff Boals, Bryce Drew are all coaching this week

but this is MARQUETTE. i would be surprised if it wasn't Izzo or Few
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 17, 2021, 02:37:58 PM
Highly doubtful

When MU interviewed Duffy, it was made very clear to us that we better not say a word to anyone about it.  This was, I think one or two days after she was telling her current employer how she was happy and wanted to stay.

2 days later we brought Duffy back to Milwaukee and it was announced she’s the new women’s bb coach

That's what we did with TC as MSU was playing in Milwaukee and the hiring committee met with him on Saturday between games as MSU was playing Friday and Sunday. However, with the Indy bubble that is not happening for anyone this year.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 17, 2021, 02:54:17 PM
TB and KS.  That's who we were told the Meat Eaters would start and end their list with.

Fat, and Chance, on both.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 17, 2021, 02:57:09 PM
TB and KS.  That's who we were told the Meat Eaters would start and end their list with.

Kevin Stallings is the worst. And I think Tom Brady is still gonna play football this year.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Judge Smails on March 17, 2021, 03:01:38 PM
I’m surprised at the Pitino love. I’d rather stick with Wojo than have Pitino.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 17, 2021, 03:02:36 PM
I’m surprised at the Pitino love. I’d rather stick with Wojo than have Pitino.

It is more likely than you or I will be MU's coach next season that Rick Pitino.  So there's that....
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Tha Hound on March 17, 2021, 03:09:31 PM
We've been (internet) reliably informed the donors are just lining up the $. Should happen in another 9 pages or so.

Have we? even internet reliably? by who?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 17, 2021, 03:18:23 PM
but this is MARQUETTE. i would be surprised if it wasn't Izzo or Few


Or Tony Bennett.

Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 17, 2021, 03:19:33 PM
Adele is also available, hey?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2021, 03:20:31 PM
Adele is also available, hey?

She’d put butts in seats
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2021, 03:25:05 PM
Adele is also available, hey?
Rumor has it.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2021, 03:25:26 PM
She’d put butts in seats

Imagine the huddles!
"This was all you, none of it me
You put your hands all over [that player] and told me, mmm
You told me you were ready
For the big one, for the big jump
I'd be your last [coach], everlasting, you and me, mmm
That was what you told me"
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 17, 2021, 03:27:30 PM
Have we? even internet reliably? by who?

I thought that was the joke:  "internet (reliably)" =/= "reliably"

But maybe I was reading too much into it and it wasn't intended as a joke.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: genious expert on March 17, 2021, 03:35:28 PM
We've been (internet) reliably informed the donors are just lining up the $. Should happen in another 9 pages or so.

Only one man can save us now... Someone make the call.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 17, 2021, 03:36:13 PM
I thought that was the joke:  "internet (reliably)" =/= "reliably"

But maybe I was reading too much into it and it wasn't intended as a joke.

This entire thread should be in green in honor of SPD
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 17, 2021, 03:38:43 PM
Rumor has it.

Someone like you was bound to say that.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 17, 2021, 03:50:55 PM
We could have had Pitin-o
Rolling in tourneys deep
He'd have us back up at the top
And to DePaul, we'd never be beat
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 17, 2021, 03:57:42 PM
We could have had Pitin-o
Rolling in tourneys deep
He'd have us back up at the top
And to DePaul, we'd never be beat


Seventy-seven
Just think if we'd hired Digger
We could flat out play
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: BM1090 on March 17, 2021, 03:59:19 PM
Porter Moser and....?

Smith and Gates I'd guess. Not Moser.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2021, 03:59:30 PM
 
Someone like you was bound to say that.

 ;D
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 17, 2021, 04:02:56 PM
Adele is also available, hey?

Dude, we're getting Adele?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: bilsu on March 17, 2021, 04:03:12 PM
Kevin Stallings is the worst. And I think Tom Brady is still gonna play football this year.
I wanted McGuire to recruit Stallings.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 17, 2021, 04:08:43 PM
Dude, we're getting Adele?



Yep. Two-for deal. Sings the national anthem, then heads over to the bench.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2021, 04:11:19 PM
Dude, we're getting Adele?

I know this reference
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 17, 2021, 04:14:10 PM
Dude, we're getting Adele?

(https://media.tenor.com/images/8e93a57e29cdcdd6b551cdba64e9aab9/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 17, 2021, 04:18:25 PM
I know this reference


Oh my - I totally missed that one. Bravo, Lazar!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NickelDimer on March 17, 2021, 04:19:27 PM
Dude, we're getting Adele?
Took me a second...which made it that much better
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 17, 2021, 04:26:28 PM
This ☝️

Season was over by the time the last seven games rolled around.

Oh. Didn't know we could shift the timeline to fit the narrative. That's convenient.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: panda on March 17, 2021, 04:38:32 PM
Oh. Didn't know we could shift the timeline to fit the narrative. That's convenient.

“ I’m with you, but the third time in three years with a collapse was nail in the coffin for a lot of those on the fence.”

This is what I said. How did I shift goalposts?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2021, 04:42:39 PM
Speaking of swirling...

https://twitter.com/GtstUndercover/status/1372299378111696898

So MU is gonna dump Wojo for Archie Miller???  Talk about a dumpster fire.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2021, 04:45:06 PM
Speaking of swirling...

https://twitter.com/GtstUndercover/status/1372299378111696898

So MU is gonna dump Wojo for Archie Miller???  Talk about a dumpster fire.

Pretty skeptical of this Twitter handle
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Herman Cain on March 17, 2021, 04:47:42 PM
Adele is also available, hey?
She lost a lot of weight. I think she could make some good money marketing her weight loss program. 

https://www.prevention.com/weight-loss/a29664529/adele-weight-loss/
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Tha Hound on March 17, 2021, 04:47:51 PM
Speaking of swirling...

https://twitter.com/GtstUndercover/status/1372299378111696898

So MU is gonna dump Wojo for Archie Miller???  Talk about a dumpster fire.

Maybe the lowest effort rumor spreading thus far. Bravo to that guy
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: dw3dw3dw3 on March 17, 2021, 04:50:26 PM
GTST was one of the better season slogans though. Memories of better times.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 17, 2021, 04:52:52 PM
Pretty skeptical of this Twitter handle

What, are you telling me MU wasn't still trying to hire Shaka in 2020???

https://twitter.com/GtstUndercover/status/1231979180470013952
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2021, 04:58:01 PM
What, are you telling me MU wasn't still trying to hire Shaka in 2020???

https://twitter.com/GtstUndercover/status/1231979180470013952

Oh, I have my doubts.  I do think Shaka will take a different job in the next month, though...
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NickelDimer on March 17, 2021, 05:07:33 PM
GTST was one of the better season slogans though. Memories of better times.
Yes it was
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 17, 2021, 05:23:48 PM
Fire Wojo and hire Andy Daulton.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2021, 05:25:42 PM
Fire Wojo and hire Andy Daulton.

Fire Wojo and hire John Dalton
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 17, 2021, 05:26:01 PM
Fire Wojo and hire Andy Daulton.


Did Russell Wilson say no?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: BM1090 on March 17, 2021, 05:35:32 PM
She lost a lot of weight. I think she could make some good money marketing her weight loss program. 

https://www.prevention.com/weight-loss/a29664529/adele-weight-loss/

I'm pretty sure her weight loss program was depression, so maybe not.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 17, 2021, 05:42:22 PM
Speaking of swirling...

https://twitter.com/GtstUndercover/status/1372299378111696898

So MU is gonna dump Wojo for Archie Miller???  Talk about a dumpster fire.

With that $10 million buyout in hand, maybe Archie would work gratis.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Oldgym on March 17, 2021, 05:49:56 PM
Oh, I have my doubts.  I do think Shaka will take a different job in the next month, though...

Why?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JWags85 on March 17, 2021, 05:55:21 PM
Fire Wojo and hire John Dalton

I’d rather choose Dalton from Roadhouse 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2021, 05:55:58 PM
Why?

He’s a hot commodity again and he’s never been really appreciated in Texas. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2021, 05:56:41 PM
I’d rather choose Dalton from Roadhouse

That is John Dalton!  Roadhouse
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: JWags85 on March 17, 2021, 05:59:09 PM
That is John Dalton!  Roadhouse

Haha I didn’t even process, well done
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 17, 2021, 06:02:14 PM
He’s a hot commodity again and he’s never been really appreciated in Texas.

Word is swirling that Mrs. Shaka now loves Leon's Frozen Custard, the Domes and Summerfest.

#donedealagain

#redonedeal
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 17, 2021, 06:22:10 PM
Oh. Didn't know we could shift the timeline to fit the narrative. That's convenient.

You’re being purposely obtuse.  We collapsed this year, it just happened a little earlier, and we put ourselves in such a big hole that we weren’t able to recover no matter what happened.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 17, 2021, 06:48:21 PM
TB and KS.  That's who we were told the Meat Eaters would start and end their list with.

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-13-2015/WxsjoI.gif)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: tower912 on March 17, 2021, 07:11:20 PM
Fire Wojo and hire John Dalton
Fire Wojo and hire John Dawson
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 17, 2021, 07:24:38 PM
Fire Wojo and hire John Dawson

Shut it down
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 17, 2021, 07:30:18 PM
I’d rather choose Dalton from Roadhouse
I thought you’d be bigger.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 17, 2021, 08:00:49 PM
I thought you’d be bigger.

What the f*** am I supposed to do?

“There’s always barber college”
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: FrennA on March 17, 2021, 08:30:16 PM
Right boot.

Got it. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Herman Cain on March 17, 2021, 08:44:51 PM
Fire Wojo and hire John Dawson
We would have a better chance at beating Georgetown then.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Jables1604 on March 17, 2021, 09:05:56 PM
Fire Wojo and hire John Dawson
At this point I’d take Richard Dawson...(RIP)
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Eye on March 17, 2021, 09:13:24 PM
What about Andre Dawson? At least he's alive and has a sports background.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: pbiflyer on March 17, 2021, 09:53:34 PM
Fire Wojo and hire Andy Daulton.

Dude, be realistic. What organization would be stupid enough to put Andy Dalton in a position of importance???? They would have to be completely incompetent.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Fred Garvin on March 17, 2021, 10:36:42 PM
Len Dawson,could probably throw a good inbounds pass.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: pbiflyer on March 17, 2021, 10:53:32 PM
Len Dawson,could probably throw a good inbounds pass.
And just sneaking in under the wire, we have today’s winner of the internet.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 18, 2021, 12:32:12 AM
Porter Moser and....?

Majerus student
Sis Jean prayers not enough
Left out in the cold

One is a menace
Whose Line Is It Anyway?
A Castle's front door

Rushmore is superb
Zion is even more grand
Lake Michigan next?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 18, 2021, 01:41:53 AM
What about Andre Dawson? At least he's alive and has a sports background.
Dawson Garcia As Player Coach
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 18, 2021, 01:49:03 AM
Len Dawson,could probably throw a good inbounds pass.
Lol True, but was Carton who threw the bad inbounds to Dawson at the end of the game. That said agree that is awesome Len Dawson is the winner.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 18, 2021, 06:04:02 AM
Woke up wondering: Is the word still swirling?

If so, how would we rate the swirl? Violent churning? Mild spinning? Medium spiraling?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 18, 2021, 06:52:26 AM
Woke up wondering: Is the word still swirling?

If so, how would we rate the swirl? Violent churning? Mild spinning? Medium spiraling?

Pretty sure we have a clog.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: genious expert on March 18, 2021, 07:43:52 AM
David Gruber, I know you are reading this, please pay Wojo’s buyout. We need you now more than ever
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 19, 2021, 07:28:33 AM
How's the word this morning?

Still all a-swirl?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 19, 2021, 07:31:06 AM
How's the word this morning?

Still all a-swirl?

If wojo really is out the door we won't know anything until midway through the tournament when things kick up.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU82 on March 19, 2021, 08:30:41 AM
If wojo really is out the door we won't know anything until midway through the tournament when things kick up.

Looking forward to the announcement!

And BTW, love your new screen name.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: SaveOD238 on March 19, 2021, 08:33:45 AM
Majerus student
Sis Jean prayers not enough
Left out in the cold

One is a menace
Whose Line Is It Anyway?
A Castle's front door

Rushmore is superb
Zion is even more grand
Lake Michigan next?


The last one is Craig Smith, right? 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: BM1090 on March 19, 2021, 08:55:33 AM

The last one is Craig Smith, right?

Moser, Gates, Smith
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 19, 2021, 08:57:28 AM
Woke up wondering: Is the word still swirling?

If so, how would we rate the swirl? Violent churning? Mild spinning? Medium spiraling?

Stop the politics!
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: NolongerWarriors on March 19, 2021, 09:01:50 AM
I was there when the FIRE DUKIET banner was unfurled, but my recollection is that it got cheers at first but then there were some boos.

Is that accurate or is my memory faulty?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: connie on March 19, 2021, 09:04:26 AM
I was there when the FIRE DUKIET banner was unfurled, but my recollection is that it got cheers at first but then there were some boos.

Is that accurate or is my memory faulty?
I remember 2 such banners, but I was drinking a lot at the time.  I think there were cheers, then some "disapproving of the public display" and "support the program" type reaction. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: WarriorFan on March 19, 2021, 09:27:48 AM
He gone yet?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: lawdog77 on March 19, 2021, 09:32:49 AM
He gone yet?
Once Loyola and the fighting Krumwigs are out, the change will be made
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 19, 2021, 09:33:00 AM
I was there when the FIRE DUKIET banner was unfurled, but my recollection is that it got cheers at first but then there were some boos.

Is that accurate or is my memory faulty?


Something like that.  It was a Saturday night so, like connie, was probably more than a little buzzed at the time.  How else were we supposed to survive a Dukiet coached game?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 19, 2021, 09:33:32 AM
I remember 2 such banners, but I was drinking a lot at the time.  I think there were cheers, then some "disapproving of the public display" and "support the program" type reaction.

So pretty much exactly what's happening right now?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GOO on March 19, 2021, 09:52:35 AM
Woke up wondering: Is the word still swirling?

If so, how would we rate the swirl? Violent churning? Mild spinning? Medium spiraling?
I think the drain might be plugged. It could be backing up, I don't know. But I don't think it is swirling.  But I know nothing about plumbing or the physics of water or the internal working of MU.   Well, I do not that water, like people, tend to take the path of least resistance. 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: connie on March 19, 2021, 09:53:26 AM

Something like that.  It was a Saturday night so, like connie, was probably more than a little buzzed at the time.  How else were we supposed to survive a Dukiet coached game?
Sure, I'll take that excuse. :D
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2021, 09:54:23 AM
Scholl may take the complete opposite approach and never say a single word about Wojo this offseason.

Let the emotions settle and let the 24 hour news cycle do it’s magic.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: GOO on March 19, 2021, 09:55:34 AM
I think the drain might be plugged. It could be backing up, I don't know. But I don't think it is swirling.  But I know nothing about plumbing or the physics of water or the internal working of MU.   Well, I do not that water, like people, tend to take the path of least resistance.

I'll add, that I have thought that Wojo's approach to this season was spot on.  He was not going to be the yelling, pushing, get everything out of each player  coach this year.  He knows his team and the circumstances.  The mental and emotional health of the players were given top priority given the circumstances with Covid.  This is spot on for MU.  I give him a pass for this year.  That is the way to handle a college team during Covid, to do otherwise, places oneself above the interest of your players and others.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Boozemon Barro on March 19, 2021, 10:00:38 AM
I'll add, that I have thought that Wojo's approach to this season was spot on.  He was not going to be the yelling, pushing, get everything out of each player  coach this year.  He knows his team and the circumstances.  The mental and emotional health of the players were given top priority given the circumstances with Covid.  This is spot on for MU.  I give him a pass for this year.  That is the way to handle a college team during Covid, to do otherwise, places oneself above the interest of your players and others.

Exactly. The most important thing for a coach at MU to focus on is that their scholarship players feel good about themselves.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: cheebs09 on March 19, 2021, 10:09:57 AM
I'll add, that I have thought that Wojo's approach to this season was spot on.  He was not going to be the yelling, pushing, get everything out of each player  coach this year.  He knows his team and the circumstances.  The mental and emotional health of the players were given top priority given the circumstances with Covid.  This is spot on for MU.  I give him a pass for this year.  That is the way to handle a college team during Covid, to do otherwise, places oneself above the interest of your players and others.

Has he ever been that coach? I don’t know that I’d ever describe Wojo as a “get everything out of a player and team” coach.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: PointWarrior on March 19, 2021, 11:28:23 AM
Dodd’s has been uncharacteristicly quiet since  the article was posted in his site.   About the only thing he has to say is the administration is not counting the results is the covid year. 
His lack of continual non-stop defense of Wojo makes me wonder if something under way with Wojo leaving.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 19, 2021, 11:39:02 AM
Who cares about John Dodds.
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Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 19, 2021, 11:40:20 AM
Who cares about John Dodds?

John Dodds.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: jesmu84 on March 19, 2021, 12:44:06 PM
Bump
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Post by: JWags85 on March 19, 2021, 12:44:23 PM
How's the word this morning?

Still all a-swirl?

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Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Pakuni on March 19, 2021, 12:45:21 PM
Who cares about John Dodds.

Given how often he comes up here, a lot of Scoopers care about John Dodds.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 19, 2021, 12:47:20 PM
Given how often he comes up here, a lot of Scoopers care about John Dodds.

You know the next question.

Why?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: 5DollarPitcher on March 19, 2021, 12:47:52 PM
Looking forward to the announcement!

And BTW, love your new screen name.
Hooohoo boy you have egg on your face. Are you going to apologize for being smug and condescending and then being wrong??

Likely not. Thanks for playing, 82. It’s been fun.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: genious expert on March 19, 2021, 12:48:49 PM
David Gruber, I know you are reading this, please pay Wojo’s buyout. We need you now more than ever

Thank you David Gruber
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Tyler COLEk on March 19, 2021, 12:53:40 PM
Returning to the Scoop for the first time in almost a decade to post these two words:

Dwyane Wade
Bumping this.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 19, 2021, 01:00:57 PM
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Swirl it is.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: PointWarrior on March 19, 2021, 01:02:54 PM

Must have been agony for Dodd’s the last 18 hours or so knowing his Wojo was gone  :P

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Dodd’s has been uncharacteristicly quiet since  the article was posted in his site.   About the only thing he has to say is the administration is not counting the results is the covid year. 
His lack of continual non-stop defense of Wojo makes me wonder if something under way with Wojo leaving.
[/quote]
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 19, 2021, 01:12:43 PM
How's the word this morning?

Still all a-swirl?

You gleefully posted some version of this every morning in this thread since it started.  Well, I’ve got just one question for you now:  Do you believe this happy crappy?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: BM1090 on March 19, 2021, 01:16:15 PM
I jumped on Mike Deanes a bit but good call.
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Post by: muwarrior69 on March 19, 2021, 03:08:32 PM
The word is he's gone and that a wrap.
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Post by: 4everwarriors on March 21, 2021, 07:41:20 PM
Just a fart in the wind, aina?
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Post by: rocky_warrior on March 21, 2021, 07:43:50 PM
Just a fart in the wind, aina?

On Monday, when this was posted.  It was more like a belch in the wind.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: PhillyWarrior on March 21, 2021, 08:33:14 PM
Must have been agony for Dodd’s the last 18 hours or so knowing his Wojo was gone  :P

Dodds is a tool.  Ever the apologist and excuse maker, but the worst part is how he berates posters with personal attacks, snide comments, and name calling.  Saying things he'd never say to one's face.  And these posters are his "customers".  His ship has sailed as his credibility is zilch.
He told posters wanting a coaching change to basically shut up and accept the fact that Wojo was going to coach next year.  This was less than 24 hours after the announcement Wojo was FIRED.  And he is an "insider" with connections.  What a flaming fool.
Not the sharpest tool in the shed.  I finally had enough and came over here.
 
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 21, 2021, 08:35:01 PM
I jumped on Mike Deanes a bit but good call.
Lol heard tonight at Mass our new director of Music’s Name is Mike Deane. Different Mike Deane though.
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: PhillyWarrior on March 21, 2021, 08:35:23 PM
*24 hours BEFORE the announcement
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 22, 2021, 08:12:25 AM
Lol heard tonight at Mass our new director of Music’s Name is Mike Deane. Different Mike Deane though.

Does he call time out 30 seconds into a hymn?
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: Judge Smails on March 22, 2021, 09:52:30 AM
I kinda liked Deane calling those quick TOs. He saw something he didn’t like and didn’t wait to address it. Today’s clock management may be a bit overdone. Deane was a real character. I remember being at a game in the Bradley Center. The arena was practically empty because there was a Packers playoff game going on at the same time, so you could clearly hear almost everything Deane was yelling throughout the game. I distinctly remember him yelling at Fasail Abraham, “Fasail, can’t you run faster than that!!!”
Title: Re: Word is swirling : wojo is gone
Post by: cheebs09 on March 22, 2021, 09:56:03 AM
Does he call time out 30 seconds into a hymn?

If I was there singing, he would probably need to.