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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33350 on: January 17, 2023, 11:14:45 AM »
Yep, Yep.  This theory of MU taking care of their own will be tested this offseason.  Could be a source of frustration for the coach we all want to stay for a couple decades if this does not happen the right way.

But that’s for the off-season.  Let’s enjoy the ride this year first.

It was tested last season and it passed the test. We will see if it passes again. I'm not worried.
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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33351 on: January 17, 2023, 11:29:26 AM »
Knower of Ball

I am with you on not being worried about paying the men their money. Plus, a strong finish this year will have a big positive for the NIL fund. I have not worried for a second that MU will be competitive in the NIL.

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33352 on: January 17, 2023, 11:32:41 AM »
Knower of Ball

I am with you on not being worried about paying the men their money. Plus, a strong finish this year will have a big positive for the NIL fund. I have not worried for a second that MU will be competitive in the NIL.

Hoping it will be a Strong NIL that Shaka can tske Lemon(i)s and make lemonade  as a draw to our recruits.
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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33353 on: January 17, 2023, 11:38:24 AM »
As vital as Scoop has proven to be to the success of the program, I would think some of that NIL money would come our way.
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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33354 on: January 17, 2023, 11:46:21 AM »
I would think most hyper competitive coaches would rather make 3.5 that 4.2 if 700K was used to retain their two best players.

You may be right...but I'm skeptical. The $4.2 vs. $3.5 is just another scoreboard and, as you said, they're hyper competitive.
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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33355 on: January 17, 2023, 11:49:49 AM »
As vital as Scoop has proven to be to the success of the program, I would think some of that NIL money would come our way.

Some folks say that the delays in naming a SOTG happen when Rocky is preoccupied with counting the NIL funds coming Scoop's way. Odd that he doesn't share it with all of us.

(When it comes down to it, I suppose we do actually all get equal shares.)

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33356 on: January 17, 2023, 11:58:44 AM »
The staff is already on to 2024 and 2025 recruits.

Wings and forwards in 2024, and bigger guards in 2025. Pretty clear priorities being established.

What about Bigs? I mean Oso will be gone at the latest in 2024 or 25…….we have no depth behind him unless the staff is very confident that Keeyan will eventually become a starting caliber player………..we can hope but hard to count on that happening.

Whole roster can’t be guards and wings.

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33357 on: January 17, 2023, 12:12:55 PM »
What about Bigs? I mean Oso will be gone at the latest in 2024 or 25…….we have no depth behind him unless the staff is very confident that Keeyan will eventually become a starting caliber player………..we can hope but hard to count on that happening.

Whole roster can’t be guards and wings.

IMO, those would be included in forwards.  Add a player like Bryce Dortch or Royce Parham to Gold, Amadou, and Itejere.

Add a player like Isaiah Abraham behind Joplin.  That's 6 players to cover the 4 & 5, with a couple options to play the 3 when not playing three guards.

Depending how the roster shakes out, Shaka could also target forwards in the portal.

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33358 on: January 17, 2023, 12:14:38 PM »

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33359 on: January 17, 2023, 12:29:01 PM »
 I believe players really like playing for Shaka. Assuming that is true they are less likely to go somewhere else for money.

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33360 on: January 17, 2023, 12:30:23 PM »
Reminder: NIL and immigration an issue for OMax and Gold.

https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/2022/05/18/ncaa-nil-international-college-athletes-student-visas/

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33361 on: January 17, 2023, 12:41:31 PM »
My hope is we slow down the facilities arms race and the coaches salaries and some existing donor money gets put to the collective.  I would think most hyper competitive coaches would rather make 3.5 that 4.2 if 700K was used to retain their two best players.

If/when coaches feel that way, there will probably be a way for them to invest in a local business which, wouldn't you know, just happens to support a NIL program.

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33362 on: January 17, 2023, 12:45:19 PM »
Reminder: NIL and immigration an issue for OMax and Gold.

https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/2022/05/18/ncaa-nil-international-college-athletes-student-visas/

I forgot about the visa issue with NIL. Didn't Kentucky do some preseason work in Oscar Tshebwiewe's (sp) home country so that he could make some $$$?

It would be fantastic if Marquette did something Canada for Omax next year, then New Zealand the following year for Gold, to work around that red tape.

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33363 on: January 17, 2023, 02:44:37 PM »
What about Bigs? I mean Oso will be gone at the latest in 2024 or 25…….we have no depth behind him unless the staff is very confident that Keeyan will eventually become a starting caliber player………..we can hope but hard to count on that happening.

Whole roster can’t be guards and wings.

We have Been and Al.

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33364 on: January 17, 2023, 02:54:21 PM »
We have Been and Al.

Neither one of them is going to be able to replace Oso. IMO

They are more 3/4 OMax types.


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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33365 on: January 17, 2023, 03:53:07 PM »
Neither one of them is going to be able to replace Oso. IMO

They are more 3/4 OMax types.

Gold two inches taller than Oso and already 5 pounds heavier. Compared to freshman Oso, Gold is 30 pounds heavier. So Gold is certainly big enough to play the 5, especially as he adds strength.

Can Gold offer the same rim protection that Oso does?  Small sample size for Gold, but his block percentage is 11.7%.  Surely that will come down in time.  But that's enough of a hint that Gold could match Oso's 6.2% block percentage when Gold eventually becomes a starter.

I definitely see Gold becoming stretch 5 in the future.

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33366 on: January 17, 2023, 03:55:07 PM »
Neither one of them is going to be able to replace Oso. IMO

They are more 3/4 OMax types.

No one is gonna replace Oso. Shaka could nearly handpick any 2023 recruit he wants and still not replace Oso.  Oso is the most irreplaceable player at Marquette since Jae.

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« Reply #33367 on: January 17, 2023, 04:36:48 PM »
No one is gonna replace Oso. Shaka could nearly handpick any 2023 recruit he wants and still not replace Oso.  Oso is the most irreplaceable player at Marquette since Jae.

I agree. But he was a question mark his freshman year.  I think Gold can become very good.

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« Reply #33368 on: January 17, 2023, 05:01:58 PM »
No one is gonna replace Oso. Shaka could nearly handpick any 2023 recruit he wants and still not replace Oso.  Oso is the most irreplaceable player at Marquette since Jae.

No argument with this. Did not expect this year’s Oso based on what we saw last year.

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33369 on: January 17, 2023, 05:08:15 PM »
You are not going to find another Oso, but Gold’s skill set could prove to be very valuable in this system. He handles the ball well for a big, will prove to be a very good shooter and can take it to the hole. Plus, playing with Oso will definitely give him tricks to practice. I think he will be a major part of this team and offense a year from now. I am excited to see how Shaka molds him into a big for this system.

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33370 on: January 17, 2023, 05:22:22 PM »
His dad is 7'2.  Do you think he is likely to grow?
Of course he will grow. Its in the genes
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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33371 on: January 17, 2023, 05:25:33 PM »
Of course he will grow. Its in the genes

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« Reply #33372 on: January 17, 2023, 05:54:19 PM »
His dad is 7'2.  Do you think he is likely to grow?

As long as his Mom isn’t 4’10”.

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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33373 on: January 17, 2023, 05:55:14 PM »
No one is gonna replace Oso. Shaka could nearly handpick any 2023 recruit he wants and still not replace Oso.  Oso is the most irreplaceable player at Marquette since Jae.

What if we replaced him with 2 Dwyane Wade?
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Re: Recruiting as of 12/15/22
« Reply #33374 on: January 17, 2023, 06:05:37 PM »
How does the motion work with a stretch 5 who can put it in the floor and can get to the rim from the 3 pt line?   Not Oso, but there are certainly building blocks there.

That is Gold in two years.
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