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Title: Recruiting as of 9/15/19
Post by: jsglow on August 01, 2015, 10:12:22 AM
I decided to start a new thread to track overall recruiting efforts in a single place as it has become challenging for me to keep track of the various candidate threads.  I know some of you guys follow this very closely so I'm simply trying to bring a little mid-summer organization to it.  So as I see it here's how things stand now.  Please feel free to correct any of my mistakes.


'20-'21 (Four*) available scholarships)

Justin Lewis - PF  VERBAL COMMIT 7/24/19

Osasere Ighodaro - PF  VERBAL COMMIT 9/12/19

Jalen Suggs - SG   Offered

RJ Davis - PG  Offered  Official Visit 9/27-29

AJ Hoggard - PG  Offered  Official Visit 9/17

Desmond Polk - PG  Offered   Visit

Jamari Sibley - PF Offered    Visit

Dawson Garcia - PF Offered    Official Visit 2/9/19

Darlinstone Dubar - SG  Offered

Zed Key - PF  Offered   Official Visit 9/21/19

(* if currently available '19 remains unused and Gardiner is this year only)


'21-'22 (Four available scholarships)

Patrick Baldwin Jr, - SF Offered

Michael Foster - PF Offered

Jonathan Kuminga - PF Offered

Kendall Brown - SF Offered

Micawber Etienne - C Offered

Carter Whitt - PG Offered

Javonte Brown-Ferguson - C    Offered/Possible '20 Reclassify

'33-'34 (Thirteen available scholarships)

 Kent McIlvanine - C/PF Interested/Visiting

 Luca Diener - PG Interested/Visiting

If you please, I'd like to keep this to guys we're truly recruiting today.  Sure we gave an offer to guys like Cassius Winston but that ship has sailed.  I also left off Phillip Flory as I seem to remember hearing that relationship ended.  I'd also like to avoid some 'shot in the dark' Top 5 prospect that we've 'offered' but really aren't actively recruiting because he's simply going to Kentucky or Duke and Wojo already knows that.  I've also not assumed any additional scholarship availability due to transfer or early departure.  Any thoughts you guys have as to Wojo's pecking order is appreciated.  Thanks for the input and/or corrections.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: brewcity77 on August 01, 2015, 12:22:52 PM
Marquette did offer Stevens quite awhile ago. Was actually surprised when he announced we were in his top-5, as the offer came so long ago without follow-up that I figured both parties had just moved on.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: MuMark on August 01, 2015, 01:13:33 PM
Theo John....2017 big from MN has also been offered and been on campus
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on August 01, 2015, 01:19:52 PM
What happened to Remy Martin, Derek Culver, and is Phillip Flory still "in the mix"?

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: Lazar's Headband on August 01, 2015, 01:30:15 PM
Brendan Bailey is noticeably absent from you're list.  6-7 SF from Utah...son of former Jazz PF/C Thurl Bailey...former Arizona St commit (hello Stanley Johnson)...excellent shooter and rebounder...has visited San Diego St and UConn officially...plans to visit Marquette and Gonzaga according to twitter...possibly Arizona too...Michigan now also involved.  Borderline top 50 on 24/7 composite rankings.  I think he may be a very high priority for Wojo.

Fun Fact #1--- Thurl Bailey played with Jae Crowder's dad Corey for one season with the Jazz.

Fun Fact #2---  Jae Crowder's real first name is Corey and his dad's real first name is Jonathan but both go by their middle name.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: jsglow on August 01, 2015, 02:55:52 PM
Anybody want to speculate on pecking order?  I'll guess Coffey is Target #1, yes?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on August 01, 2015, 06:20:51 PM
Anybody want to speculate on pecking order?  I'll guess Coffey is Target #1, yes?

That's the impression that I've gotten. I think the addition of Stan Johnson has raised the attention being paid to some of our left coast prospects
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: 4everCrean on August 01, 2015, 10:31:11 PM
I thought that Mustapha Heron's interest was determined to be elsewhere.  St. Johns?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on August 02, 2015, 01:29:51 AM
I don't know how much interest is still left but we have also been mentioned with

2016
Quentin Goodin (one of Wojo's first offers, been awhile since I heard anything)
Daquan Bracey (one of Wojo's first offers, been awhile since I heard anything)
Kevin Huerter (offered and in his "final" six)
Javin Montegomery-DeLaurier (offered)

2017
McKinley Wright (Has visited I believe)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: jsglow on August 02, 2015, 05:58:44 AM
I don't know how much interest is still left but we have also been mentioned with

2016
Quentin Goodin (one of Wojo's first offers, been awhile since I heard anything)
Daquan Bracey (one of Wojo's first offers, been awhile since I heard anything)
Kevin Huerter (offered and in his "final" six)
Javin Montegomery-DeLaurier (offered)

2017
McKinley Wright (Has visited I believe)

Did a little reading on your '16s.  With the exception of Huerter, I think they should stay off the active list.  Many have two dozen offers and apparently no current MU activity.  Might you provide a link on Huerter's final six announcement?  He would make sense to add.  Obviously if any other kid showed real interest we'd also include.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: brewcity77 on August 02, 2015, 06:41:14 AM
Did a little reading on your '16s.  With the exception of Huerter, I think they should stay off the active list.  Many have two dozen offers and apparently no current MU activity.  Might you provide a link on Huerter's final six announcement?  He would make sense to add.  Obviously if any other kid showed real interest we'd also include.

I don't think we are really after Goodin, Bracey, or Huerter any more. JMD is one of those guys that everyone is after, so I'd wait until he has us on a list of 5-10 schools before assuming there's a lot of interest there.

Wright we are definitely in on, watched him a few times this summer as well. Derek Culver is another 2017 we have offered. Goanar Mar is another name to watch for 2017. HS teammate of Sacar Anim. Staff has been on him for awhile.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: MU82 on August 02, 2015, 08:55:02 AM
I appreciate this stream and hopefully it stays on subject.

Thanks for starting it, glow, and thanks to others who have contributed.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on August 02, 2015, 10:02:20 AM
Did a little reading on your '16s.  With the exception of Huerter, I think they should stay off the active list.  Many have two dozen offers and apparently no current MU activity.  Might you provide a link on Huerter's final six announcement?  He would make sense to add.  Obviously if any other kid showed real interest we'd also include.

http://www.umhoops.com/2015/04/28/kevin-huerter-focused-on-six-schools-hopes-to-visit-michigan/

It's a "final" list. Not a final list.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: jsglow on August 02, 2015, 10:44:11 AM
http://www.umhoops.com/2015/04/28/kevin-huerter-focused-on-six-schools-hopes-to-visit-michigan/

It's a "final" list. Not a final list.

Seems legit and active.  On the list.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: jsglow on August 02, 2015, 10:49:27 AM
That's a crap ton of guys for one remaining '16-'17 slot at the moment.  Everyone keep their ears open for a trimming of that list.  We wish all these kids the best.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: brewcity77 on August 02, 2015, 10:56:39 AM
http://www.umhoops.com/2015/04/28/kevin-huerter-focused-on-six-schools-hopes-to-visit-michigan/

It's a "final" list. Not a final list.

At the time there was definitely interest in Huerter, though since that article (April 28) we have added both Hauser and Rowsey to our 2016 team. Since adding Rowsey, I haven't heard Huerter's name at all. That said, Stevens also dropped off the radar for a good 6 months and suddenly we're in his final 5 and getting a visit, so we may still be after the kid, but as he's projected as a PG/wing type and we added a PG and a wing, I'm not sure he's the priority he was when we were watching him 4 months ago.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: jsglow on August 02, 2015, 11:05:08 AM
At the time there was definitely interest in Huerter, though since that article (April 28) we have added both Hauser and Rowsey to our 2016 team. Since adding Rowsey, I haven't heard Huerter's name at all. That said, Stevens also dropped off the radar for a good 6 months and suddenly we're in his final 5 and getting a visit, so we may still be after the kid, but as he's projected as a PG/wing type and we added a PG and a wing, I'm not sure he's the priority he was when we were watching him 4 months ago.

Absolutely fair and seemingly how the process works.  If Amir gives Wojo a verbal in the next 45 days one must assume that most of the other guards will focus elsewhere.  Gotta be tough for these young men.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 02, 2015, 11:21:26 AM
Nah, they all be gettin' a freebie edukasion. Not a bad head start in life, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: Jay Bee on August 02, 2015, 12:55:04 PM
Huerter is really good. I was impressed seeing him live. Shooter-plus
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on August 02, 2015, 02:57:04 PM
First come first serve.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: 4everCrean on August 03, 2015, 07:26:03 AM
Nah, they all be gettin' a freebie edukasion. Not a bad head start in life, ai na?

A free education from one of the few - if not the only - school where they will also learn the taste of real chili and the meaning of ai na.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: MuMark on August 03, 2015, 10:37:53 AM
Jon Rothstein ‏@JonRothstein  3m3 minutes ago
2016 SF Lamar Stevens (Team Final) will visit Pitt on August 28th and Marquette on September 18th, source told @CBSSports. Top-100 player.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: MUchamp22 on August 03, 2015, 11:18:41 AM
Jon Rothstein ‏@JonRothstein  3m3 minutes ago
2016 SF Lamar Stevens (Team Final) will visit Pitt on August 28th and Marquette on September 18th, source told @CBSSports. Top-100 player.

Isn't Hauser a SF? Why would we get two in the same class when it isn't a glaring need for our team...? I know it's just a visit, but I have to imagine Wojo sees one of these guys as more of a PF or a SG, right? I know nothing about this kid, I'm just asking the question
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: MuMark on August 03, 2015, 11:46:39 AM
Isn't Hauser a SF? Why would we get two in the same class when it isn't a glaring need for our team...? I know it's just a visit, but I have to imagine Wojo sees one of these guys as more of a PF or a SG, right? I know nothing about this kid, I'm just asking the question

Stevens scouting report from ESPN
SCOUTING REPORT
ESPN Analyst
Updated 06/16/2015
Strengths:
Stevens is an undersized 4-man for the high-major level. The 6-foot-7ish burly power forward has a knack to score in a variety of ways. His bread and butter move is to attack at the elbow area and utilize a solid 1st step and excellent footwork to finish off moves in the paint area. Despite not having great lift he knows how to use his thick frame (strong physique) and overall good length to score through and over contact. While finishing in the paint area he does a nice job of getting his body into shot blockers to score at an efficient rate. He has clever foot work, solid fundamentals, and a tremendous feel to score 12-feet and in.
Weaknesses:
Stevens needs to continue to expand his game out to the 3-point line and improve his shooting touch overall. In addition, he needs to continue to improve his quickness, strength, and bounce to make him a reliable scorer at the college level.
Bottom Line:
Stevens is undersized, but he has the motor, strength, skill, and scoring mentality to be an effective college player.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: keefe on August 03, 2015, 12:07:20 PM
A free education from one of the few - if not the only - school where they will also learn the taste of real chili and the meaning of ai na.

The closing of Lenny's Tap has denied future generations of the third leg of the "Marquette Stool of Success"
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: brewcity77 on August 03, 2015, 12:09:49 PM
Isn't Hauser a SF? Why would we get two in the same class when it isn't a glaring need for our team...? I know it's just a visit, but I have to imagine Wojo sees one of these guys as more of a PF or a SG, right? I know nothing about this kid, I'm just asking the question

Add MuMark's post indicates, I think we'd be recruiting Stevens as a PF. If Henry leaves (and even if he doesn't) that's a position of need for 2016.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on August 03, 2015, 12:14:21 PM
The closing of Lenny's Tap has denied future generations of the third leg of the "Marquette Stool of Success"

I felt the same after The Avalanche closed.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: keefe on August 03, 2015, 12:44:37 PM
I felt the same after The Avalanche closed.

Marquette lost a lot of its heart and soul when the University launched its neighborhood cleansing campaign...

Lenny's. the Lanche, Hegarty's, the Gym...

Jesus wept
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: Aughnanure on August 03, 2015, 01:28:09 PM
Marquette lost a lot of its heart and soul when the University launched its neighborhood cleansing campaign...

Lenny's. the Lanche, Hegarty's, the Gym...

Jesus wept

It's amazing how many there were at one point. I was only around for Hegarty's end days.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: jsglow on August 03, 2015, 02:31:13 PM
Marquette lost a lot of its heart and soul when the University launched its neighborhood cleansing campaign...

Lenny's. the Lanche, Hegarty's, the Gym...

Jesus wept

No doubt.  But I'd really like this to remain on topic my friend.   :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: TSmith34 on August 03, 2015, 03:10:51 PM
Stevens scouting report from ESPN
SCOUTING REPORT
ESPN Analyst
Updated 06/16/2015
Strengths:
Stevens is an undersized 4-man for the high-major level. The 6-foot-7ish burly power forward has a knack to score in a variety of ways. His bread and butter move is to attack at the elbow area and utilize a solid 1st step and excellent footwork to finish off moves in the paint area. Despite not having great lift he knows how to use his thick frame (strong physique) and overall good length to score through and over contact. While finishing in the paint area he does a nice job of getting his body into shot blockers to score at an efficient rate. He has clever foot work, solid fundamentals, and a tremendous feel to score 12-feet and in.
Weaknesses:
Stevens needs to continue to expand his game out to the 3-point line and improve his shooting touch overall. In addition, he needs to continue to improve his quickness, strength, and bounce to make him a reliable scorer at the college level.
Bottom Line:
Stevens is undersized, but he has the motor, strength, skill, and scoring mentality to be an effective college player.

Sounds like Baby Davante
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: Cooby Snacks on August 03, 2015, 04:06:49 PM
Sounds like Baby Davante

My thought was Lazar without the outside game, but yeah, this works too.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: real chili 83 on August 03, 2015, 07:18:18 PM
No doubt.  But I'd really like this to remain on topic my friend.   :)

Grunts, GT Charlie's.....

The Lost Dutchman's Mine.......
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: Jay Bee on August 03, 2015, 07:54:15 PM
Isn't Hauser a SF? Why would we get two in the same class when it isn't a glaring need for our team...? I know it's just a visit, but I have to imagine Wojo sees one of these guys as more of a PF or a SG, right? I know nothing about this kid, I'm just asking the question

From my post in the Lamar Stevens thread from last month...

I've watched quite a bit of Team Final again this year... familiar with Lamar. Some thoughts:

- PHYSICAL. Lots of contact in his game, both on offense and defense. Always up for taking on bigger defenders and does so aggressively. Can play bigger than 6'6".
- College position - Depending on what you want to do with him, 3/2/4. His ball handling is good enough where you may be able to have him play off guard. Because of his physicality, some defenders would really struggle with him. His strength and grit/determination is such that even at his height you could have him play some 4. Solid rebounder for his size. Can be a mean customer. (Plus, 6'6" is the normal height of an MU PF.) Probably best fit at a HM D-I is at 3. Most "natural fit" is probably 4. He's a guy who can defend a number of different player types and is a strong, all-around contributor.
- Not a guy who bombs from three - he looks to attack off the dribble and get to the bucket; can knock down mid-range shots, but most of what I've seen is him doing work in the paint. And it's good work.
- Will register a good amount of both blocks and steals in college.

Stevens would be a nice add.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: jsglow on August 03, 2015, 08:34:02 PM
From my post in the Lamar Stevens thread from last month...

Thanks Jay Bee.  I remember last year when the scrappy guy down low was none other than some folks favorite whipping boy De. Wilson.  Find me a 6'6" guy who can bang around down there and do some dirty work off the bench anytime.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on August 03, 2015, 08:46:11 PM
Pat Lawless ‏@GiveNGobball  2h2 hours ago
'18 PF Jalen Smith has picked up an offer from Miami. He has also received offers from Providence and Marquette per @realA_rosenfeld.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on August 03, 2015, 09:57:34 PM
Marquette lost a lot of its heart and soul when the University launched its neighborhood cleansing campaign...

Lenny's. the Lanche, Hegarty's, the Gym...

Jesus wept

We all wept
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on August 06, 2015, 08:14:17 AM
Jon Rothstein ‏@JonRothstein  57m57 minutes ago
2016 wing Brendan Bailey will take an official visit to Marquette this weekend, source told @CBSSports. Top-75 player in class.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: jsglow on August 06, 2015, 08:30:07 AM
Does this imply anything about Coffey to you guys?  Wojo's history with 'official visits' is approaching 100%.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: wadesworld on August 06, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Does this imply anything about Coffey to you guys?  Wojo's history with 'official visits' is approaching 100%.

If it is correct that he will go on his Mormon mission then I think this is great.  Get Coffey in for 2016 and get Bailey in for 2018.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: jsglow on August 06, 2015, 09:40:09 AM
okay fellas, I just reclassified Bailey as an '18 for now and put him at the top of the list.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 06, 2015, 10:05:14 AM
If it is correct that he will go on his Mormon mission then I think this is great.  Get Coffey in for 2016 and get Bailey in for 2018.


So, are ya sayin' he's Jewish or not, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: jsglow on August 06, 2015, 10:20:40 AM
You know what guys?  When Wojo gets a commitment this weekend from Bailey as an '18 (beginning play as a 20 y/o Frosh), then gets Kostas to agree to a year of prep coming as a '17 and THEN signs Coffey for next year we'll all be doing the happy dance.  It's not impossible.  Heck, it's not even a pipe dream.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: MUfan12 on August 06, 2015, 11:01:46 AM
If it is correct that he will go on his Mormon mission then I think this is great. Get Coffey in for 2016 and get Bailey in for 2018.

Looking at the roster makeup, I'd almost rather have Lamar Stevens at this point. But after Henry goes pro, there will be room for both he and Coffey.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: Lazar's Headband on August 06, 2015, 12:54:18 PM
If it is correct that he will go on his Mormon mission then I think this is great.  Get Coffey in for 2016 and get Bailey in for 2018.

Most 18 year old males would love to spend two years in some kind of missionary position, ai-na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: MuMark on August 06, 2015, 03:46:10 PM
http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/mustapha-heron-has-a-top-five/
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: wadesworld on August 06, 2015, 03:53:47 PM
http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/mustapha-heron-has-a-top-five/

He would be a very good get.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: martyconlonontherun on August 06, 2015, 06:54:23 PM
http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/mustapha-heron-has-a-top-five/
Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi State
St John's, Marquette

Listed as from CT. Kind of a weird list combo. No blue bloods, 2 private northern schools in cities, and then 3 huge southern schools.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: Jay Bee on August 06, 2015, 07:30:50 PM
Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi State
St John's, Marquette

Listed as from CT. Kind of a weird list combo. No blue bloods, 2 private northern schools in cities, and then 3 huge southern schools.

He was a long-time Pittsburgh commit. An assistant there had played with his father and was key to the Pitt commit.

That assistant is now at St. John's with Mullin in the role of asst head coach.  ;)

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on August 14, 2015, 11:44:04 PM
Kevin Huerter has narrowed his list to six and we are not on it.

But Brendan Bailey narrowed his list to five and we are on it....so overall a win
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: dgies9156 on August 15, 2015, 12:27:42 AM
Jesus wept

I thought that happened when we lost to Miami of Ohio in 1978.

Or when Al retired.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: jsglow on August 15, 2015, 07:37:11 AM
it'll presumably be quiet until the guys get home and then heat up again.  Hoping that Coffey gives Wojo a 'thumbs up' call by early September.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on August 16, 2015, 11:59:21 AM
Mustapha Heron committed to Auburn
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: jsglow on August 16, 2015, 01:05:31 PM
Mustapha Heron committed to Auburn

And the chart is updated including the 'as of' date  Thanks.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: keefe on August 16, 2015, 01:15:30 PM
Mustapha Heron committed to Auburn

I smell....Pearl....
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: martyconlonontherun on August 17, 2015, 09:54:35 AM
Hopefully ellenson is as good as advertised and leaves, and we rebuild with Amir, houser and kostas. Would be a pretty well rounded class and starts to help us balance classes coming up
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: jsglow on August 17, 2015, 09:56:41 AM
Hopefully ellenson is as good as advertised and leaves, and we rebuild with Amir, houser and kostas. Would be a pretty well rounded class and starts to help us balance classes coming up

Huh??!!  Where to begin......
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on August 17, 2015, 10:16:56 AM
Hopefully ellenson is as good as advertised and leaves, and we rebuild with Amir, houser and kostas. Would be a pretty well rounded class and starts to help us balance classes coming up

You think that would be better than the prospects of having this WHOLE team return...and adding Hauser, Rowsey and Amir?

Uhh why "hope" for a rebuild lol.

If Henry returns we have legit F4 aspirations in 16-17
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on August 17, 2015, 10:20:47 AM

If Henry returns we have legit F4 aspirations in 16-17

Especially if we add a Coffey level player
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on August 17, 2015, 10:35:52 AM
Especially if we add a Coffey level player

I love the smell of Basketball in the Morning!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on August 17, 2015, 10:48:17 AM
Especially if we add a Coffey level player

Yup. That's what I was saying.

1 more year of Henry and then a 2017 recruit is 100 times the option than Getting Kostas in 16 lol.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on August 17, 2015, 11:00:38 AM
Yup. That's what I was saying.

1 more year of Henry and then a 2017 recruit is 100 times the option than Getting Kostas in 16 lol.

I value your opinion since you have seen Wally play at Minn, do you see any glimmer or potential of improvement?  IF so maybe its due to playing with his Brother, Team make-up and/or Coaching Staff.

Thanks
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on August 17, 2015, 11:28:55 AM
I value your opinion since you have seen Wally play at Minn, do you see any glimmer or potential of improvement?  IF so maybe its due to playing with his Brother, Team make-up and/or Coaching Staff.

Thanks

Well I kept telling people to really temper their expectations because he wasn't impressive at the U even if people want to point to a little injury/lack of PT.

That said I do see potential and I like having him on the team a lot. Points towards improved depth. He shouldn't be leaned on for heavy PT but his athleticism will make him useful for bursts of the bench. And if he's got the hot hand we can ride him. Already looks more in control during this trip than his time at Minny.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on August 17, 2015, 11:32:44 AM
Well I kept telling people to really temper their expectations because he wasn't impressive at the U even if people want to point to a little injury/lack of PT.

That said I do see potential and I like having him on the team a lot. Points towards improved depth. He shouldn't be leaned on for heavy PT but his athleticism will make him useful for bursts of the bench. And if he's got the hot hand we can ride him. Already looks more in control during this trip than his time at Minny.


 Thanks, good to know.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: BM1090 on August 17, 2015, 02:46:58 PM
Mark Miller and Meyer just predicted Coffey to Minnesota
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on August 17, 2015, 03:16:41 PM
Mark Miller and Meyer just predicted Coffey to Minnesota

not good!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on August 17, 2015, 03:26:12 PM
Mark Miller and Meyer just predicted Coffey to Minnesota

Wow. This is bad.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on August 17, 2015, 04:02:09 PM
Mark Miller and Meyer just predicted Coffey to Minnesota

Let's hope not!!!!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: GGGG on August 17, 2015, 04:10:22 PM
Amir Coffey isn't going to make or break MU basketball.  I'd love to have him, but recruiting disappointments happen all the time.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: martyconlonontherun on August 17, 2015, 05:00:50 PM
You think that would be better than the prospects of having this WHOLE team return...and adding Hauser, Rowsey and Amir?

Uhh why "hope" for a rebuild lol.

If Henry returns we have legit F4 aspirations in 16-17
Huh??!!  Where to begin......
Of course i would want HE to return as a beast sophomore but if I think there are 4 realistic options:
1. HE dominates, takes us deep and leaves for the NBA. (Okafor)
2. HE is underwhelming but leaves for the NBA based on potential (Kevon Looney)
3. HE never lives up to his potential and is a serviceable player for 3 years.

I guess the fourth scenario is he sticks around after a slightly disappointing year and really comes into his own as a sophomore. But HE seems like he has 1 and done potential and I want MU to continue to have a rep of developing NBA talent instead of having recruits underachieve.

Like I said, I would rather the guy come in and be a beast leading us to a tourney run then to be a disappointment. What's wrong with hoping for the best year a team can possibly have considering who knows what will happen the following year?

I guess I am also a fan who thinks it is usually better for a player to leave early then lose millions of dollars/experience in college. The guy is a top 10 pick right now and leading this team to the S16 will solidify it. I would never wish for a player to come back in that scenario because it will most likely be against his best interests.

I'm like you guys and can dream HE coming in dominating and coming back to promise a F4 appearance, but I don't see it happening. I would rather have him dominate and leave then struggle and stay.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: willie warrior on August 17, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Wow. This is bad.
While I would agree that is disappointing, it is not even close to discouraging. It does not even "balance" the landing of HE. Now that was" bad" for Ky. and MSU. But hey, screw them, ai'na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 17, 2015, 05:57:53 PM
Next man up, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on August 17, 2015, 05:59:08 PM
While I would agree that is disappointing, it is not even close to discouraging. It does not even "balance" the landing of HE. Now that was" bad" for Ky. and MSU. But hey, screw them, ai'na?

Dude I'm saying it's bad for us that they are predicting he goes to minny. You know, like bad for our chances?

I'm not saying it's a program crumbling development lol.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: MUfan12 on August 17, 2015, 08:24:05 PM
Coffey is a nice player, but I think Stevens is a better fit for the roster moving forward.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: keefe on August 17, 2015, 08:33:30 PM
Mark Miller and Meyer just predicted Coffey to Minnesota

Well, Coffey probably wasn't that good, anyhow
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: keefe on August 17, 2015, 08:41:21 PM
Amir Coffey isn't going to make or break MU basketball.  I'd love to have him, but recruiting disappointments happen all the time.

Sam Bowie...Mark Aguirre...Terry Cummings...Scooter "Trombone" McCray...Walter Downing...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Jay Bee on August 17, 2015, 09:58:09 PM
Plenty of possibilities with AC still
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Herman Cain on August 17, 2015, 10:02:24 PM
Of course i would want HE to return as a beast sophomore but if I think there are 4 realistic options:
1. HE dominates, takes us deep and leaves for the NBA. (Okafor)
2. HE is underwhelming but leaves for the NBA based on potential (Kevon Looney)
3. HE never lives up to his potential and is a serviceable player for 3 years.

I guess the fourth scenario is he sticks around after a slightly disappointing year and really comes into his own as a sophomore. But HE seems like he has 1 and done potential and I want MU to continue to have a rep of developing NBA talent instead of having recruits underachieve.

Like I said, I would rather the guy come in and be a beast leading us to a tourney run then to be a disappointment. What's wrong with hoping for the best year a team can possibly have considering who knows what will happen the following year?

I guess I am also a fan who thinks it is usually better for a player to leave early then lose millions of dollars/experience in college. The guy is a top 10 pick right now and leading this team to the S16 will solidify it. I would never wish for a player to come back in that scenario because it will most likely be against his best interests.

I'm like you guys and can dream HE coming in dominating and coming back to promise a F4 appearance, but I don't see it happening. I would rather have him dominate and leave then struggle and stay.

I think he will stay all four years. My current best guess is he will have a steady progression ending as Big East Player of the Year as a Senior. Upside is he has a Ty Hansbrough/ Doug McDermott type college career.

Needs to demonstrate he can play against tough athletic quick players. I think Big East is a great forum for him to do that. Obviously his skills are formidable and very glad we have him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Jay Bee on August 17, 2015, 10:07:20 PM
I think he will stay all four years. My current best guess is he will have a steady progression ending as Big East Player of the Year as a Senior. Upside is he has a Ty Hansbrough/ Doug McDermott type college career.

Needs to demonstrate he can play against tough athletic quick players. I think Big East is a great forum for him to do that. Obviously his skills are formidable and very glad we have him.

<chuckle>
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on August 17, 2015, 11:35:59 PM
Coffey is a nice player, but I think Stevens is a better fit for the roster moving forward.

No chance.

Stevens would be a very nice alternative.

But coffey is a huge get
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on August 18, 2015, 12:32:12 AM
Geez, two crystal predictions and all of the sudden Wojo has cooled on him. Just give Wojo some time. Lil Richie has plenty of time to screw this up.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: keefe on August 18, 2015, 01:00:52 AM
I thought that happened when we lost to Miami of Ohio in 1978.

I think we all knew the carnival ride was over when we lost that game. Hank inherited the best team in the goddam country and choked. Disgusting.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: GGGG on August 18, 2015, 08:21:55 AM
I think he will stay all four years. My current best guess is he will have a steady progression ending as Big East Player of the Year as a Senior. Upside is he has a Ty Hansbrough/ Doug McDermott type college career.

Needs to demonstrate he can play against tough athletic quick players. I think Big East is a great forum for him to do that. Obviously his skills are formidable and very glad we have him.


HE isn't staying four years.  We'll be lucky to get two.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: brewcity77 on August 18, 2015, 08:25:47 AM
Dude I'm saying it's bad for us that they are predicting he goes to minny. You know, like bad for our chances?

I'm not saying it's a program crumbling development lol.

I wonder if the Italy trip may have something to do with this. First batch of visits announced when our entire staff is overseas. It will be interesting to see if a MU visit is added once the staff gets back.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: MUfan12 on August 18, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
No chance.

Stevens would be a very nice alternative.

But coffey is a huge get

He's a very good player. But MU has a bunch of guys at the wing. They need a little steel with the skill they have, and Stevens fits that bill.

That's operating under the assumption that MU only has one to give, though. I'm guessing there will be one more opening up.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: 4everCrean on August 18, 2015, 08:36:46 AM
Mark Miller and Meyer just predicted Coffey to Minnesota

The downside of having a talented roster is not being able to realistically offer a lot of playing time to recruits.  Al was able to recruit guys by telling them that their year to shine would be their senior year!  Boy, is that over.  Just one of the chances Al saw coming that he didn't want to be around for.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: 4everCrean on August 18, 2015, 08:39:59 AM
Mark Miller and Meyer just predicted Coffey to Minnesota

And just like that the two wing players in the class of 2016 "problem" goes away.  As a good an illustration as any of why you don't string along a player like Sam Houser hoping to get someone better.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: 4everCrean on August 18, 2015, 08:45:49 AM
Of course i would want HE to return as a beast sophomore but if I think there are 4 realistic options:
1. HE dominates, takes us deep and leaves for the NBA. (Okafor)
2. HE is underwhelming but leaves for the NBA based on potential (Kevon Looney)
3. HE never lives up to his potential and is a serviceable player for 3 years.

I guess the fourth scenario is he sticks around after a slightly disappointing year and really comes into his own as a sophomore. But HE seems like he has 1 and done potential and I want MU to continue to have a rep of developing NBA talent instead of having recruits underachieve.

Like I said, I would rather the guy come in and be a beast leading us to a tourney run then to be a disappointment. What's wrong with hoping for the best year a team can possibly have considering who knows what will happen the following year?

I guess I am also a fan who thinks it is usually better for a player to leave early then lose millions of dollars/experience in college. The guy is a top 10 pick right now and leading this team to the S16 will solidify it. I would never wish for a player to come back in that scenario because it will most likely be against his best interests.

I'm like you guys and can dream HE coming in dominating and coming back to promise a F4 appearance, but I don't see it happening. I would rather have him dominate and leave then struggle and stay.

I agree.  IIRC, HE would be MU's first foray into one and done territory.  Having him struggle for a year before developing later wouldn't help with the future recruitment of one and done types. So, HE leaving after one year could do even more for MU than just raising the success of this year's team.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on August 18, 2015, 08:59:59 AM
I agree.  IIRC, HE would be MU's first foray into one and done territory.  Having him struggle for a year before developing later wouldn't help with the future recruitment of one and done types. So, HE leaving after one year could do even more for MU than just raising the success of this year's team.

My thoughts exactly
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: CAGASS24 on August 18, 2015, 09:44:33 AM
I agree.  IIRC, HE would be MU's first foray into one and done territory.  Having him struggle for a year before developing later wouldn't help with the future recruitment of one and done types. So, HE leaving after one year could do even more for MU than just raising the success of this year's team.

in general I agree with this assessment, but let's just remember that it might not apply fully to the situation of Henry at MU - while he is a one and done type talent - he is also from Wisconsin and his brother was already here - these were factors that undoubtedly boosted MU's stock to get this specific one and done type of player - i'm not sure how many potential one and done'rs out there that would look to MU more favorably because of Ellenson's success, but I agree it doesn't hurt - However, I would rather he stay more than a year
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on August 18, 2015, 10:55:18 AM
Of course i would want HE to return as a beast sophomore but if I think there are 4 realistic options:
1. HE dominates, takes us deep and leaves for the NBA. (Okafor)
2. HE is underwhelming but leaves for the NBA based on potential (Kevon Looney)
3. HE never lives up to his potential and is a serviceable player for 3 years.

I guess the fourth scenario is he sticks around after a slightly disappointing year and really comes into his own as a sophomore. But HE seems like he has 1 and done potential and I want MU to continue to have a rep of developing NBA talent instead of having recruits underachieve.

Like I said, I would rather the guy come in and be a beast leading us to a tourney run then to be a disappointment. What's wrong with hoping for the best year a team can possibly have considering who knows what will happen the following year?

I guess I am also a fan who thinks it is usually better for a player to leave early then lose millions of dollars/experience in college. The guy is a top 10 pick right now and leading this team to the S16 will solidify it. I would never wish for a player to come back in that scenario because it will most likely be against his best interests.

I'm like you guys and can dream HE coming in dominating and coming back to promise a F4 appearance, but I don't see it happening. I would rather have him dominate and leave then struggle and stay.

I think there is one additional (and my hopeful) scenario - HE comes in and dominates, or HE comes in and has a season like Looney did - will likely be a lottery pick or late 1st rounder, but decides to come back and play one more year with his brother and try to win a championship.  I think this is fairly unlikely, but I'd say it is possible, and probably the best case scenario for us as fans. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on August 18, 2015, 11:07:09 AM
I wonder if the Italy trip may have something to do with this. First batch of visits announced when our entire staff is overseas. It will be interesting to see if a MU visit is added once the staff gets back.

That's a good point regarding our staffs availability at the moment but Minnesota is also overseas. Although they are the home town team.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: martyconlonontherun on August 18, 2015, 11:37:57 AM
I think there is one additional (and my hopeful) scenario - HE comes in and dominates, or HE comes in and has a season like Looney did - will likely be a lottery pick or late 1st rounder, but decides to come back and play one more year with his brother and try to win a championship.  I think this is fairly unlikely, but I'd say it is possible, and probably the best case scenario for us as fans.
It would need to be a perfect balancing act but I agree that would be best. I don't find it likely, though. I would rather just hope HE dominates right away instead of worrying about year 2.

I get what you are saying about Looney in comparison to HE, but he played well enough to be a lottery pick and only fell due to his health issues.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 18, 2015, 11:58:17 AM
Y'all are so silly. #5 is gonna realize a total north of 8 mil. if his club option is exercised in the last year of his rookie contract. Let's hear it for ol' Marquette, u rah rah, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on August 18, 2015, 12:02:31 PM
Y'all are so silly. #5 is gonna realize a total north of 8 mil. if his club option is exercised in the last year of his rookie contract. Let's hear it for ol' Marquette, u rah rah, ai na?

If you have x years that you can play in the NBA you will always be better off starting the clock early (meaning as soon as you can get a guaranteed contract).  If you don't get renewed/resigned after your rookie contract, no amount of extra years in college would have made it happen.

Doug McDermott makes people feel better about themselves though.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: GGGG on August 18, 2015, 12:08:27 PM
If you have x years that you can play in the NBA you will always be better off starting the clock early (meaning as soon as you can get a guaranteed contract).  If you don't get renewed/resigned after your rookie contract, no amount of extra years in college would have made it happen.

Doug McDermott makes people feel better about themselves though.


Exactly.  I posted this in the one and done thread:

One of the things that I think people are forgetting is that if HE stays in school, he is limiting his earning potential.

When he decides to enter the draft, he is going to have to spend his first four years on a rookie contract...assuming of course he is drafted in the first round.  The earlier he gets off that first contract is when he can get onto the more lucrative second one. 

So for instance, let's say that HE decides to go pro after one year and he is drafted around #20.  He would earn about $7.2 million over his first four years.  Now let's say he came back and actually improved his stock and is drafted #8.  That get's him $13.6 million.  Sounds like a good deal right?  He made $6 million+ more over the course of his first four years by waiting.

However under the first scenario, HE will be able to cash in a year earlier.  He may very well exceed that $6 million difference in the first year of that new contract.  So when you compare of how much he has earned at a similar age (as opposed to years) he may likely be better off leaving early even if it means he is drafted lower in round one.  You can only play so many years of basketball.  He might as well maximize his earnings during that time.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: keefe on August 18, 2015, 12:16:10 PM


One of the things that I think people are forgetting is that if HE stays in school, he is limiting his earning potential.

It is a proven fact that college graduates earn much more over the course of a working life than high school graduates. If Henry leaves Marquette without that sheepskin he will only be cheating himself.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: GGGG on August 18, 2015, 12:21:00 PM
It is a proven fact that college graduates earn much more over the course of a working life than high school graduates. If Henry leaves Marquette without that sheepskin he will only be cheating himself.


For most people...yes.  For top level basketball players...no. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: keefe on August 18, 2015, 12:34:56 PM

For most people...yes.  For top level basketball players...no.

Relax. I do not use teal.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: GGGG on August 18, 2015, 12:39:10 PM
Relax. I do not use teal.


  :o
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Lazar's Headband on August 22, 2015, 11:19:47 AM
Lamar Stevens is schedule to visit Pitt on August 28 and Marquette on Sept 18.  No other visits set yet.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: oldwarrior81 on August 22, 2015, 06:25:46 PM
got this (on Lamar Stevens) from my buddy close to the Villanova squad....

Kid wants to play a stretch 3-4, he's a down hill truck w/the ball and won't be denied - need to work on his jumper - but WOJO could easily fix that. Defensive maniac, and super bounder in space.
We've got 3 now, so his PT would be low at first and Jay told him that when he offered.
Kid's been around Nova his whole like, and I suspect he'd be ours but the timings just wasn't right.
Still a big argument re whether to take him or not!

Kid comes from excellent bloodlines - both athletically & academically - both parent are attorneys.
You could do a lot worse.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: keefe on August 22, 2015, 08:44:01 PM
got this (on Lamar Stevens) from my buddy close to the Villanova squad....



Kid comes from excellent bloodlines - both parent are attorneys.

Do they charge $450 an hour?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 22, 2015, 08:51:04 PM
Solid Crash, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: swoopem on August 27, 2015, 10:30:28 AM
Does anyone know if we're recruiting Gary Trent Jr from Apple Valley, MN? I see that ESPN has him ranked top 10 for the 2017 class and Wojo has ties to that school (Tyus Jones and his brother) so I'm wondering if we've gone after him at all. Thanks
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Lazar's Headband on August 27, 2015, 12:55:17 PM
I think MU was looking at Trent to some extent but Wojo realizes the bluebloods will be tough to beat.  At least that is my guess.  Kobe King, Nojel Eastern and Jordan Poole are probably more realistic, especially Poole.  If Wojo can land Howard, Poole, and a big or 2 (I'm thinking 4 scholarships end up in that class) then it'll be a great haul.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on August 27, 2015, 01:29:36 PM
Sacar was tweeting to Theo John with the #mubb tag. So. there's your TWITTER TRACKER.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: fjm on August 27, 2015, 03:46:17 PM
Sacar was tweeting to Theo John with the #mubb tag. So. there's your TWITTER TRACKER.

Lets not jump to conclusions! This is the same #mubb tag that I searched last night and had an outstanding female citizen of Middle Eastern culture posting tons of blowjob pictures... Sooooo maybe he was linking to that?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: LAMUfan on August 27, 2015, 03:49:21 PM
got to love the internet
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 27, 2015, 04:19:34 PM
Lets not jump to conclusions! This is the same #mubb tag that I searched last night and had an outstanding female citizen of Middle Eastern culture posting tons of blowjob pictures... Sooooo maybe he was linking to that?


What was that link again? Just axin' for a buddy, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: mr.MUskie on August 27, 2015, 05:50:40 PM

What was that link again? Just axin' for a buddy, hey?

+1
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: MuMark on August 27, 2015, 08:19:08 PM
@jeffborzello: ESPN 100 Lamar Stevens is unlikely to be on Pittsburgh's campus this weekend, per a source. Had originally planned an official visit there.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: wadesworld on August 27, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
@jeffborzello: ESPN 100 Lamar Stevens is unlikely to be on Pittsburgh's campus this weekend, per a source. Had originally planned an official visit there.

Hmm...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: PTM on August 28, 2015, 10:26:39 AM
Lets not jump to conclusions! This is the same #mubb tag that I searched last night and had an outstanding female citizen of Middle Eastern culture posting tons of blowjob pictures... Sooooo maybe he was linking to that?

That'll help recruiting.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Lazar's Headband on August 28, 2015, 10:44:57 AM
Lets not jump to conclusions! This is the same #mubb tag that I searched last night and had an outstanding female citizen of Middle Eastern culture posting tons of blowjob pictures... Sooooo maybe he was linking to that?

We're the Duke of the Middle East!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on August 28, 2015, 11:02:08 AM
Lets not jump to conclusions! This is the same #mubb tag that I searched last night and had an outstanding female citizen of Middle Eastern culture posting tons of blowjob pictures... Sooooo maybe he was linking to that?

  Recruiter for ISIS?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: LloydsLegs on August 28, 2015, 03:13:22 PM
Do they charge $450 an hour?

You're living in the aughts, Keefe.  $750 to $1,200 now.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Lazar's Headband on August 28, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
$450 an hour is the new minimum wage, ai'na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: jsglow on August 28, 2015, 03:51:28 PM
Is Stevens planned MU visit an Official?  And you twitter guys please keep track to see if he actually heads to Pitt this weekend.  I can absolutely imagine Lamar being the next verbal sometime in September based on the info we seem to have.  I can also envision Wojo over signing by one come November, but only for the two guys at the top of his pecking order.  There's multiple ways that could shake out in the Spring.   
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: MuMark on August 28, 2015, 04:10:20 PM
The Stevens visit will be official......assuming it happens
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: wadesworld on August 28, 2015, 05:27:15 PM
Bailey will not sign a NLI until 2018, correct?  If he were to commit, we could still technically sign 2 others and be oversigned by one?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: MuMark on August 28, 2015, 05:35:14 PM
Yes.....Bailey will be a 2018 recruit so he will not sign an LOI in 2016
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: keefe on August 28, 2015, 09:22:56 PM
You're living in the aughts, Keefe.  $750 to $1,200 now.

How silly of me. I read somewhere that it now costs $50K a week for a simple vacation bungalow.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: brewcity77 on August 29, 2015, 06:11:42 AM
Yes.....Bailey will be a 2018 recruit so he will not sign an LOI in 2016

Going to try to look into this further, but I'm not sure this is accurate. I believe with players taking a mission, they still sign with the school as their original class. That allows the school unlimited contact with the player that wouldn't be allowed without a LOI in place. Players taking missions want to sign before the trip because they won't be able to play organized basketball for two years which almost certainly means their stock would drop.

So basically, Bailey would be part of the 2016 class. He would technically be on the team (but not counting against scholarship limit) and sign as a 2016, but his clock won't start until after his mission in 2018.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Jay Bee on August 29, 2015, 08:19:22 AM
Going to try to look into this further, but I'm not sure this is accurate. I believe with players taking a mission, they still sign with the school as their original class. That allows the school unlimited contact with the player that wouldn't be allowed without a LOI in place. Players taking missions want to sign before the trip because they won't be able to play organized basketball for two years which almost certainly means their stock would drop.

So basically, Bailey would be part of the 2016 class. He would technically be on the team (but not counting against scholarship limit) and sign as a 2016, but his clock won't start until after his mission in 2018.

Key as well is that signing an NLI effectively places a recruiting ban on other schools.

Agreed (not well versed on this, but...), in a situation like Bailey, you'd want him to sign an NLI in November 2015 or spring 2016, even though he doesn't plan to enroll until 2018.

It used to be that many kids would enter college, play a sport, then go on a mission.. but with the age drop for missions, now you have them going on missions right out of high school...

For those kids who do start school, but then go on a mission, there is rule 13.1.1.3.2.1. In general, if a kid leaves a school and is gone for one year, any other school can jump in and try to recruit him. The 13.1.1.3.2.1 exception says that, for example, a kid attends your school for a year and had signed an NLI prior to enrollment.. then goes on a two-year mission... other schools can't go after him after year one of the mission... absent this exception, they could.

But again.. I think brewcity77 is correct. Have the kid sign an NLI as a HS student.. he goes on his mission and everything is fine for 2018.

13.1.1.3.2.1 Exception—Official Religious Mission. An institution shall not contact a studentathlete
who has begun service on an official religious mission without obtaining permission from the
institution from which the student-athlete withdrew prior to beginning his or her mission if the student-athlete
signed a National Letter of Intent (NLI) and attended the institution (with which he or
she signed the NLI) as a full-time student. If such a student-athlete has completed his or her official
religious mission and does not enroll full time in a collegiate institution within one calendar year of
completion of the mission, an institution may contact the student-athlete without obtaining permission
from the first institution.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 29, 2015, 09:30:26 AM
So he gets a religious waiver from the five year rule?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: wadesworld on August 29, 2015, 10:38:03 AM
So he gets a religious waiver from the five year rule?

And he won't be counted as on scholarship for the basketball program while on his mission?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Jay Bee on August 29, 2015, 10:47:00 AM
So he gets a religious waiver from the five year rule?

No.. in a BB situation where a kid goes on a mission before enrolling (as defined, including attending first day of fall classes), the five-year clock doesn't start until he's back from the mission and 'enrolled'
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: keefe on August 29, 2015, 11:07:44 AM
That allows the school unlimited contact with the player that wouldn't be allowed without a LOI in place.

The problem is that LDS Missionaries are not allowed any contact beyond their mission-specific responsibilities. The only exception is that a missionary is allowed to contact his/her mother twice a year - on Mother's Day and Christmas.

So unless Wojo is a missionaries mother they aren't speaking for two years. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Lazar's Headband on August 29, 2015, 12:04:52 PM
The problem is that LDS Missionaries are not allowed any contact beyond their mission-specific responsibilities. The only exception is that a missionary is allowed to contact his/her mother twice a year - on Mother's Day and Christmas.

So unless Wojo is a missionaries mother they aren't speaking for two years.

So Wojo is going to adopt him and go transgender?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: brewcity77 on August 29, 2015, 12:38:06 PM
The problem is that LDS Missionaries are not allowed any contact beyond their mission-specific responsibilities. The only exception is that a missionary is allowed to contact his/her mother twice a year - on Mother's Day and Christmas.

So unless Wojo is a missionaries mother they aren't speaking for two years.

I'll admit I know very little about missions. Heard part of the reason is to ensure other schools can't contact the kid, though I doubt any of the other coaches are missionaries mothers either ;D

Definitely not my field of expertise, but as Jay Bee indicated, he's effectively a 2016 that doesn't count or play until 2018.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: keefe on August 29, 2015, 01:28:39 PM
I'll admit I know very little about missions. Heard part of the reason is to ensure other schools can't contact the kid, though I doubt any of the other coaches are missionaries mothers either ;D

Definitely not my field of expertise, but as Jay Bee indicated, he's effectively a 2016 that doesn't count or play until 2018.

Your point is well taken, Brew. Living out west we have a much higher concentration of LDS and therefore have more insight into the nuances of their faith. When missionaries embark on their work they are expected to focus on that and nothing else.

I understand that missionaries only recently have been authorized the use of email but that is limited to the periodic Preparation Day (P Day which is actually only 8 hours of that day) and can only be to family or their Mission President and restricted to an LDS network. The rub is that missionaries cannot use any electronics, including personal computers, so they need to make arrangements for email through their Church hierarchy. In effect, missionaries are authorized email privileges under very specific guidelines that, in fact, means they cannot send emails.   
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on August 29, 2015, 01:35:10 PM


   Sorry if this has been answered up thread, but after 1 year if he wants/has to cut the mission short (Family illness, Home sick…etc) is he immediately eligible by the NCAA?    Maybe some  Church issues
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: GGGG on August 29, 2015, 01:53:57 PM
Not all LDS kids go on missions.  In fact I believe it's less than half.  And I am sure some cut them short, but I hope if goes he doesn't do that.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: keefe on August 29, 2015, 02:09:07 PM
Not all LDS kids go on missions.  In fact I believe it's less than half.  And I am sure some cut them short, but I hope if goes he doesn't do that.

I think you are right that it is less than half of eligible males. In recent years the numbers have spiked as they authorized and then actively began promoting missions by women.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Jay Bee on August 29, 2015, 02:51:07 PM

   Sorry if this has been answered up thread, but after 1 year if he wants/has to cut the mission short (Family illness, Home sick…etc) is he immediately eligible by the NCAA?    Maybe some  Church issues

Yes. After one year he also can request to be released from the NLI via the AD. (Anyone can request... but this situation is spelled out)

No one is committed until they start taking fall classes. That's the reality.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 29, 2015, 03:54:41 PM
I think you are right that it is less than half of eligible males. In recent years the numbers have spiked as they authorized and then actively began promoting missions by women.


So, are they then positioned as missionary women, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: 4everCrean on August 29, 2015, 05:49:04 PM
Yes. After one year he also can request to be released from the NLI via the AD. (Anyone can request... but this situation is spelled out)

No one is committed until they start taking fall classes. That's the reality.

Wow, I thought that if someone didn't show up at the school at all for what would have been their first year that they could go anywhere the next year without restriction.  I guess that people talk that way since the release from the AD is routinely granted.

On a related note, how can anyone sign a NLI while on a Mormon mission given the restrictions that are made regarding their contact with the outside world during their mission?  I'm assuming that the mission wold start prior to the signing date.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on August 29, 2015, 06:57:55 PM
Yes. After one year he also can request to be released from the NLI via the AD. (Anyone can request... but this situation is spelled out)

No one is committed until they start taking fall classes. That's the reality.

  Thank you
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: brewcity77 on August 29, 2015, 07:08:35 PM
On a related note, how can anyone sign a NLI while on a Mormon mission given the restrictions that are made regarding their contact with the outside world during their mission?  I'm assuming that the mission wold start prior to the signing date.

The NLI is signed before the mission. So Bailey would sign with Marquette, finish his senior year of high school, go on the mission for two years (technically as a member of the Marquette basketball team, but without counting against scholarship limits or apparently having any team communication), then return and enroll at Marquette as a student in 2018. Generally players prefer to sign before the mission because their stock will almost assuredly drop if coaches don't get to watch them play for two years.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: TedBaxter on August 29, 2015, 07:38:22 PM
If the Marquette coaches are still trying to stay involved with Coffey, wouldn't it be more than a little concerning that an official visit hasn't been scheduled?  In line for an in-home?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: wadesworld on August 29, 2015, 07:48:32 PM
If the Marquette coaches are still trying to stay involved with Coffey, wouldn't it be more than a little concerning that an official visit hasn't been scheduled?  In line for an in-home?

Respect the process.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: GGGG on August 29, 2015, 07:52:55 PM
If the Marquette coaches are still trying to stay involved with Coffey, wouldn't it be more than a little concerning that an official visit hasn't been scheduled?  In line for an in-home?

The key word is "if."  With Mark Miller changing his prediction, it makes you wonder if something has changed.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: TedBaxter on August 29, 2015, 08:17:45 PM
Respect the process.

I understand the recruiting process as well as anyone here.  I also understand that Wojo has played with and has recruited top 50 recruits since he's been 18 and will know when the cards just aren't there.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: muhoops1 on August 29, 2015, 11:22:12 PM
Not all LDS kids go on missions.  In fact I believe it's less than half.  And I am sure some cut them short, but I hope if goes he doesn't do that.

That is correct.  We have a graduating Sr in my son's class that opted out.  It is difficult on the families when a child does this as it is a critical step in their faith.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: keefe on August 30, 2015, 01:35:08 PM
That is correct.  We have a graduating Sr in my son's class that opted out.  It is difficult on the families when a child does this as it is a critical step in their faith.

There is considerable pressure on LDS kids to go on a mission. Because missionaries must pay for the mission themselves families often set up 'mission' savings accounts. The LDS Church also demands that families tithe, patronize Mormon, and vote Mormon.

When a young man opts out of his mission responsibility not only he but his family have some 'splainin' to do
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: jsglow on August 30, 2015, 02:36:09 PM
So did Lamar go to Pitt or not this weekend?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: MuMark on August 30, 2015, 05:06:48 PM
No
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Lazar's Headband on August 31, 2015, 01:31:14 PM
With Jayce Johnson cutting his list to 5 and MU not on it, looks like it's down to Coffey and Stevens for 2016.  Bailey is technically 2016 too but with mission plans that puts him at 2018 for scholarship purposes.

Stevens has MU as his only scheduled official right now.  I am optimistic we land him.  We'll see if Coffey visits.  I have a hunch Texas could steal a commit when he visits there.  Just my gut instinct, no knowledge.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: jsglow on August 31, 2015, 01:55:11 PM
I'll disagree. I think Wojo can have Kostas if he decided to extend an offer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: GGGG on August 31, 2015, 01:58:02 PM
I don't see much evidence that Wojo is interested in Kostas.

I think we end up with Stevens and Bailey...and possibly one other player depending on Henry's status.  (Think spring signing.)  I don't think we end up with Coffey.

Maybe by that time Kostas will be a higher priority.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on August 31, 2015, 01:59:44 PM
With Jayce Johnson cutting his list to 5 and MU not on it, looks like it's down to Coffey and Stevens for 2016.  Bailey is technically 2016 too but with mission plans that puts him at 2018 for scholarship purposes.

Stevens has MU as his only scheduled official right now.  I am optimistic we land him.  We'll see if Coffey visits.  I have a hunch Texas could steal a commit when he visits there.  Just my gut instinct, no knowledge.

Lamar looks like he has the prototypical "Big East ready body." Just like Traci came in, I imagine he will be able to deal with contact at the NCAA level. Must be something in that Philly water...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Jay Bee on August 31, 2015, 03:07:30 PM
Lamar is WELL-BUILT

it's still August... many possibilities
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: jsglow on August 31, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
I don't see much evidence that Wojo is interested in Kostas.

I think we end up with Stevens and Bailey...and possibly one other player depending on Henry's status.  (Think spring signing.)  I don't think we end up with Coffey.

Maybe by that time Kostas will be a higher priority.

Agreed.  I'd personally think that Kostas might be Plan B behind Stevens, or alternatively, be asked by Wojo to prep if he really wants to come to MU.  Otherwise he'll be elsewhere.  I also think I agree that the only Fall player Wojo will oversign for is Coffey.  If he heads elsewhere, we might wait to see what Spring brings.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/15
Post by: Lazar's Headband on August 31, 2015, 04:21:05 PM
Lamar is WELL-BUILT

it's still August... many possibilities

Of course.  After all, only 6 of the 11 scholarship players for this year were fall signings.  1 midyear transfer, 2 end of year transfers, and 2 spring signings.

If HE is one and done the options in no particular order:

1) Oversign in the fall
2) Grad Transfer
3) Juco
4) Spring signee
5) Midyear transfer
6) End of year transfer

I guess I should rephrase: Coffey and Stevens look to be the focus for the fall signing period along with Bailey, who plans to go on a two year religious mission.   If there is anything else it is way under the radar.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/1
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on September 09, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
Trevor Andershock ‏@INBBallSource  Sep 8
Milwaukee (WI) King guard Jordan Poole (2017) is expecting Drake, Marquette, Michigan and Northwestern at open gym tomorrow. @ny2lasports
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/1
Post by: 4everCrean on September 10, 2015, 07:21:33 AM
I'd like to suggest a fifth possible status for recruits listed in the first post:

1.  Interested
2.  Offered
3.  Visiting/Visited
4.  Mark Miller predicts MU
5.  Verbally Committed
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/1
Post by: JakeBarnes on September 10, 2015, 10:06:59 AM
Trevor Andershock ‏@INBBallSource  Sep 8
Milwaukee (WI) King guard Jordan Poole (2017) is expecting Drake, Marquette, Michigan and Northwestern at open gym tomorrow. @ny2lasports

Yeah. A Michigan assistant was definitely there based on twitter stuff I saw of one being in Milwaukee.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/1
Post by: Pakuni on September 10, 2015, 12:05:26 PM
New name?

Corey Evans @coreyevans_10
Marquette, Texas, Texas A&M, Purdue, TCU, Oklahoma are expected in today for 2017 Keller guard RJ Nembhard

http://247sports.com/Player/RJ-Nembhard-77251
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/1
Post by: 4everwarriors on September 10, 2015, 04:03:11 PM
Gonna take some doin' to pull a dude outta TX these days with the likes of #donedeal down there now, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/1
Post by: 4everCrean on September 10, 2015, 04:32:48 PM
Gonna take some doin' to pull a dude outta TX these days with the likes of #donedeal down there now, hey?

I wonder what Scott Drew will have to say to recruit negatively against him?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/1
Post by: GOO on September 14, 2015, 10:12:14 AM
So, are those in the know anticipating a commitment this weekend or next week?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/1
Post by: Lennys Tap on September 14, 2015, 10:22:50 AM
Gonna take some doin' to pull a dude outta TX these days with the likes of #donedeal down there now, hey?

81st rated nationally, composite he's the 6th highest ranked player in Texas. #Donedeal has "offered" but who knows how badly he really wants him. If he's a high priority he'll likely end up in Austin.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: jsglow on September 17, 2015, 07:47:30 AM
Added Rivers, struck King.  Waiting on Coffey and Stevens.  Anything else major gentlemen?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: jsglow on September 21, 2015, 01:25:56 PM
I updated the list anticipating Amir's announcement and adding Willis given his presumptive official visit.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: Happy Meehl on September 23, 2015, 12:30:03 AM
Wojo and Stan Johnson went on a recruiting trip yesterday and I believe it was to visit Brendan Bailey. Hopefully a commitment isn't too far off.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: BM1090 on September 23, 2015, 10:37:09 AM
Wojo and Stan Johnson went on a recruiting trip yesterday and I believe it was to visit Brendan Bailey. Hopefully a commitment isn't too far off.

Stan Johnson posted a picture of him at the Utah Jazz practice facility, so I would say that it was indeed Bailey that they were visiting.

I wouldn't be shocked if we received two commitments in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on September 23, 2015, 11:11:53 AM
Stan Johnson posted a picture of him at the Utah Jazz practice facility, so I would say that it was indeed Bailey that they were visiting.

I wouldn't be shocked if we received two commitments in the next few weeks.

He also posted a pic of the plane saying it was a good recruiting trip with Wojo. Let's hope for some good news coming up soon.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: wadesworld on September 23, 2015, 11:15:42 AM
He also posted a pic of the plane saying it was a good recruiting trip with Wojo. Let's hope for some good news coming up soon.

I can already feel my afternoon being less productive.

Hopefully we hear a #donedeal soon enough.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on September 23, 2015, 01:00:50 PM
I can already feel my afternoon being less productive.

Hopefully we hear a #donedeal soon enough.

Stan is now headed to the east coast!!! #wheresStan #alwaysbeclosing #blessed #hashtag
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: wadesworld on September 23, 2015, 03:03:20 PM
Stan is now headed to the east coast!!! #wheresStan #alwaysbeclosing #blessed #hashtag

Interesting.  The guy has been doing a great job of getting us in on guys in the Southwest region of the country.  If he can also get us in on some kids out East this will be a complete steal of a hire.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: Pakuni on October 20, 2015, 09:40:18 AM
2017 SG Jordan Poole to announce his decision Friday at his school.
Mark Miller, sadly, has him picking Michigan, but Evan Flood last week predicted he would choose MU.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: GGGG on October 20, 2015, 09:41:48 AM
He made a return visit to Michigan last weekend.  I am guessing this is pretty much a lock.

This is a case where MU just doesn't have a lot of playing time to offer I think.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: jsglow on October 20, 2015, 09:57:18 AM
2017 SG Jordan Poole to announce his decision Friday at his school.
Mark Miller, sadly, has him picking Michigan, but Evan Flood last week predicted he would choose MU.

A 2017 picking this early?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: 4everCrean on October 20, 2015, 10:55:19 AM
A 2017 picking this early?

Michigan likely has several targets at the SG spot for 2017. By accepting now, Poole makes sure that he is their guy and doesn't lose that spot to someone else.  If something changes that he doesn't like, he's got the option to decommit.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on October 20, 2015, 10:59:44 AM
Mark Miller ‏@WisBBYearbook  23s23 seconds ago
Smart money is on Michigan for Milwaukee King junior Jordan Poole, who will announce his collegiate decision Friday at 5:30 p.m. at King.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: CoachRaymondsClass on October 20, 2015, 11:30:49 AM
thanks JSglow... good info and I appreciate the time that you took to write it up
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 9/15
Post by: jsglow on October 20, 2015, 12:37:05 PM
thanks JSglow... good info and I appreciate the time that you took to write it up

You're welcome.  I'll do an update here soon.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: jsglow on October 20, 2015, 07:35:20 PM
Didn't think it would be this soon.  Welcome to Marquette Brendan.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Pakuni on October 22, 2015, 11:04:05 AM
For whatever it's worth, with the Bailey commitment Marquette now sits at 22nd in the 2016 team rankings from 247 updated today.
Obviously very early on, and many schools have only 1 commitment so far, but others of note:

20. Xavier
25. Villanova
27. Butler
66. St. John's
71. Seton Hall
79. Providence
83. Georgetown
111. Creighton

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Earl Tatum on October 22, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
Jordan Poole would be a great pickup. I would sit on his doorstep day and night
recruiting him. Is a Big East Type player. How can we let this happen? Word also
has Kobe King maybe thinking about other schools instead of Wisco because of the Badger
coaching situation. I think Ryan is sticking around because he wants Greg Gard as
the new head coach and Alvarez is not so sure.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Earl Tatum on October 22, 2015, 12:54:47 PM
Stevens and/or Coffey  with Poole would look very good in MU unis.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: oldwarrior81 on October 22, 2015, 01:00:13 PM
Didn't Stevens commit to Penn State over a month ago?
And Coffey to Minnesota?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: mu03eng on October 22, 2015, 01:22:24 PM
Didn't Stevens commit to Penn State over a month ago?
And Coffey to Minnesota?

Yes
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: keefe on October 22, 2015, 01:27:00 PM
Jordan Poole would be a great pickup. I would sit on his doorstep day and night
recruiting him.

But would you show up at midnight in a stretch limo?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: WarriorInNYC on October 22, 2015, 01:28:21 PM
For whatever it's worth, with the Bailey commitment Marquette now sits at 22nd in the 2016 team rankings from 247 updated today.
Obviously very early on, and many schools have only 1 commitment so far, but others of note:

20. Xavier
25. Villanova
27. Butler
66. St. John's
71. Seton Hall
79. Providence
83. Georgetown
111. Creighton

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings

I'm assuming though that this will eventually be updated to reflect Bailey joining us in 2018?  I understand you may not have the answer to my question, but I would assume that Bailey eventually filters out for these rankings..
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: jsglow on October 23, 2015, 08:54:34 AM
Stevens and/or Coffey  with Poole would look very good in MU unis.

Earl.  I update the chart on p. 1 regularly.   :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: jsglow on October 23, 2015, 08:56:05 AM
I'm assuming though that this will eventually be updated to reflect Bailey joining us in 2018?  I understand you may not have the answer to my question, but I would assume that Bailey eventually filters out for these rankings..

I've read that he remains classified with his HS class regardless of his college start date for ranking purposes.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Earl Tatum on October 23, 2015, 09:25:09 AM
Sorry, missed the commits.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: wadesworld on October 23, 2015, 09:28:38 AM
Sorry, missed the commits.

I still think DIAMOND STONE would be a great get for MU.  We CANNOT MISS THIS ONE!

Him and JP TOKOTO are guys we CAN'T LET LEAVE THIS STATE!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: MU82 on October 23, 2015, 09:33:07 AM
Jordan Poole would be a great pickup. I would sit on his doorstep day and night
recruiting him. Is a Big East Type player. How can we let this happen?

Let this happen?

You do know that kids sometimes use college as a way to experience things other than their hometowns, right?

I mean, how did Miami and Florida "let" Haanif Cheatham get away to Marquette?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Nukem2 on October 23, 2015, 09:35:30 AM
I've read that he remains classified with his HS class regardless of his college start date for ranking purposes.
Believe you are correct. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: GGGG on October 23, 2015, 09:36:11 AM
Earl continues to be my favorite poster here.  And it really isn't even close.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: GGGG on October 23, 2015, 09:37:24 AM
Let this happen?

You do know that kids sometimes use college as a way to experience things other than their hometowns, right?

I mean, how did Miami and Florida "let" Haanif Cheatham get away to Marquette?


A lot of guards are going to be looking at Marquette's roster and think "I'm not going to get a lot of playing time there right off the bat."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Brewtown Andy on October 23, 2015, 09:49:54 AM
Word also has Kobe King maybe thinking about other schools instead of Wisco because of the Badger coaching situation. I think Ryan is sticking around because he wants Greg Gard as
the new head coach and Alvarez is not so sure.

If that's the case, then it was pretty silly of him to commit when he did.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: wadesworld on October 23, 2015, 09:52:15 AM
If that's the case, then it was pretty silly of him to commit when he did.

Yes.  That isn't the case.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Freeport Warrior on October 23, 2015, 11:14:14 AM
Poole is very, very close with Duane Wilson's dad, Ike. He has been his AAU coach for many years. He also coached HE and Sandy. All of the MU connections are there for Poole. If Poole ends up going to Michigan, it's probably more about perceived playing time/other recruits than program fit. Poole has been around our program for some time. It is weird to watch these kids as 6th/7th graders grow into D1 prospects. I always thought Poole was good, but not high D1 good. Good for him and MKE.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: MuMark on October 23, 2015, 11:34:01 AM
I think Poole just wants to get away from home for college.

At least that is what I have heard.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: jsglow on October 23, 2015, 03:18:18 PM
These kids are just trying to make good decisions.  Look, 3 years ago Luke decided to head down to Indiana and play for Tommy.  For reasons that aren't important, he changed his mind and is likely to be named team captain at Marquette. 

Frankly it's been no different for my kids who very easily could have worn SLU and Butler colors.  They didn't and it's nice that we get to cheer for the same hoops team.  Still, chick and I are miffed that chick jr. will be getting FREE BEER at the game.  Damn kids.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: keefe on October 23, 2015, 04:32:49 PM
3 years ago Luke decided to head down to Indiana and play for Tommy.  For reasons that aren't important, he changed his mind and is likely to be named team captain at Marquette. 

For purposes of one of Scoop's most enduring narratives those reasons are very important. And highly entertaining, I might add. Those reasons have made Scoop the fabulous forum it has blossomed into.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: MuMark on October 23, 2015, 05:42:42 PM
Poole to Michigan.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: keefe on October 23, 2015, 06:17:28 PM
Poole to Michigan.

I cannot help but think that Wojo was Coole on Poole
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: MUfan12 on October 23, 2015, 07:41:14 PM
Poole to Michigan.

Is this where we question his intelligence and accuse the other school of cheating?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 23, 2015, 08:36:05 PM
Musta had better recruitin' spoils there on his official visit, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: ChuckyChip on October 23, 2015, 08:38:30 PM
Poole to Michigan.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2015/10/23/michigan-basketball-jordan-poole/74486856/
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: brewcity77 on October 24, 2015, 06:13:01 AM
Poole to Michigan felt inevitable, though I hate seeing a local kid get away. Best of luck to him, hopefully if things don't work out we're still around as a fallback option.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: jsglow on October 24, 2015, 08:53:10 AM
Good luck Jordan.  I get it.  MU's depth at guard seems pretty strong right now with some really young guys.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Jay Bee on October 24, 2015, 10:14:43 AM
I always thought Poole was good, but not high D1 good. Good for him and MKE.

Agreed
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: keefe on October 24, 2015, 01:22:27 PM
Good luck Jordan.  I get it.  MU's depth at guard seems pretty strong right now with some really young guys.

That encapsulates the state of our program under Wojo. We can lose a local kid to Michigan and not suffer angst because the cupboard is full.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on October 24, 2015, 01:31:30 PM
OT - but was a past recruit... hate to see anyone get hurt.  Bummer for the kid.

Jon Rothstein ‏@JonRothstein  59m59 minutes ago
Virginia Tech's Ahmed Hill (patella) won't have an updated status until mid-December, Buzz Williams told @CBSSports. 8.7 PPG in 14-15.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: GGGG on October 24, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
OT - but was a past recruit... hate to see anyone get hurt.  Bummer for the kid.

Jon Rothstein ‏@JonRothstein  59m59 minutes ago
Virginia Tech's Ahmed Hill (patella) won't have an updated status until mid-December, Buzz Williams told @CBSSports. 8.7 PPG in 14-15.


Not only a recruit, but a past signee.  And the only thing that prevented him from coming to MU may have been the fact that Wojo couldn't fly to Augusta during the Masters.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: wadesworld on October 24, 2015, 02:07:36 PM
That encapsulates the state of our program under Wojo. We can lose a local kid to Michigan and not suffer angst because the cupboard is full.

Yup. Took a bare cupboard and filled it up in a year. The guy is good.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: keefe on October 24, 2015, 02:28:07 PM

Not only a recruit, but a past signee.  And the only thing that prevented him from coming to MU may have been the fact that Wojo couldn't fly to Augusta during the Masters.

Couldn't? Wouldn't!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: GGGG on October 24, 2015, 05:00:21 PM
Couldn't. The Augusta airport is just too busy.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: 4everCrean on October 24, 2015, 09:09:56 PM
Poole to Michigan felt inevitable, though I hate seeing a local kid get away. Best of luck to him, hopefully if things don't work out we're still around as a fallback option.

Hopefully, recruiting stays strong enough that we can get past hoping for sloppy seconds.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: 4everCrean on October 24, 2015, 09:12:40 PM
OT - but was a past recruit... hate to see anyone get hurt.  Bummer for the kid.

Jon Rothstein ‏@JonRothstein  59m59 minutes ago
Virginia Tech's Ahmed Hill (patella) won't have an updated status until mid-December, Buzz Williams told @CBSSports. 8.7 PPG in 14-15.

As we came to learn he really wasn't Marquette's recruit.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Marquette Fan in WI on October 30, 2015, 12:09:40 AM
Am I missing MU interest in Jordan McCabe?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: GGGG on October 30, 2015, 07:50:44 AM
Am I missing MU interest in Jordan McCabe?


He's taken an unofficial visit but I don't think there is an official offer.  Still plenty of time.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: mu03eng on October 30, 2015, 09:20:40 AM
Couldn't. The Augusta airport is just too busy.

(http://www.myavidgolfer.com/media/404099/augusta%20regional.jpg)


How was he suppose to work with this?  He woulda needed Keefe to pave (way) the way for him  ;D

I mean gosh  ;)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: jsglow on October 30, 2015, 12:18:32 PM
(http://www.myavidgolfer.com/media/404099/augusta%20regional.jpg)


How was he suppose to work with this?  He woulda needed Keefe to pave (way) the way for him  ;D

I mean gosh  ;)

It's really amazing.  I day tripped as a guest about 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: keefe on October 30, 2015, 12:23:26 PM
(http://www.myavidgolfer.com/media/404099/augusta%20regional.jpg)


How was he suppose to work with this?  He woulda needed Keefe to pave (way) the way for him  ;D

I mean gosh  ;)

One pass with a mixed loadout of Durandals and Paveways followed by a GAU strafing run and Augusta's little airport and all that shiny tin on the ramp would be history.

 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: jsglow on October 30, 2015, 12:31:03 PM
One pass with a mixed loadout of Durandals and Paveways followed by a GAU strafing run and Augusta's little airport and all that shiny tin on the ramp would be history.

Perhaps we can use you for a little 'traffic control' on the Eisenhower sometime.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: JakeBarnes on October 30, 2015, 01:02:24 PM
Perhaps we can use you for a little 'traffic control' on the Eisenhower sometime.

It was 12 minutes from congress feeder to Wolf today. It was GLORIOUS. #reversecommutelife #blessed
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Freeport Warrior on October 30, 2015, 01:58:34 PM

He's taken an unofficial visit but I don't think there is an official offer.  Still plenty of time.
As an MU fan, I hope not. Kid is fun to watch, but I just don't see success at high D1 level. He is all of 5' 10" and his dad is even shorter. Handle is absolutely insane, shot is decent but inconsistent. I don't see him getting it off easily at the next level.  Defensively would be an absolute liability -- I don't know who he could guard. He reaches and takes chances a ton now with moderate success against inferior competition, but a guy like Duane Wilson would blow by him every time. He will absolutely be an all-state high school player and has all the hype. I watched him quite a bit last summer. I would take Herro and Steffen over him all day. All three were the same size a few years ago -- now Herro and Steffen are both close to 6' 4"(same class, at least a year younger). I now have no doubt McCabe will get a nice D1 scholarship, but I just can't see major success at the next level. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Benny B on October 30, 2015, 02:15:19 PM
One pass with a mixed loadout of Durandals and Paveways followed by a GAU strafing run and Augusta's little airport and all that shiny tin on the ramp would be history.

Out of curiosity... how difficult would it be for someone with basic aviation experience to teach himself how to fly something like an A-10 or a B-2 if, per chance, a virus wiped out everyone else on Earth, and I needed to make a tequila run.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: keefe on October 30, 2015, 02:47:41 PM
Out of curiosity... how difficult would it be for someone with basic aviation experience to teach himself how to fly something like an A-10 or a B-2 if, per chance, a virus wiped out everyone else on Earth, and I needed to make a tequila run.

The likelihood of a guy with 100 Cessna hours teaching himself to fly an A 10 is about as probable as a virus decimating the earth's population...

But, since you added in the specific variable of tequila, the odds improve immeasurably. Anything is possible with the proper motivation. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: ATWizJr on October 31, 2015, 09:40:22 AM

crash, you on the way to incirlik?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: keefe on October 31, 2015, 12:35:20 PM
crash, you on the way to incirlik?

Tom

I wish. Uncle Sugar doesn't like the shrapnel in my butt so he put me out to pasture. But the bros have been kicking some righteous ass. TACPs are always the first in.

Green Berets make movies. TACPs make history.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on November 01, 2015, 12:24:53 AM
Mark Miller predicted earlier today for Darrlyn Willis to commit to ASU.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Jay Bee on November 01, 2015, 09:56:42 AM
Guys, I know it's a ways out but let's add it. Class of 2019.

Stan was in town this week and saw 2019 Matthew Hurt of Rochester (MN) John Marshall.

His brother - 2016 Michael Hurt - is a Gopher commit...

6'8" traditional who is a smooth customer and has played up in HS and often in travel ball. Needs to get up past 200 pounds and keep building... but similar to Henry at this age, if he just keeps progressing at a healthy rate over the next few years, LOOK OUT.

Iowa State offered him as an 8th grader and obviously Minnesota is heavily in the picture..

But, I'm pleased that MU is active in his recruitment at this stage.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: HoopsterBC on November 01, 2015, 09:57:19 AM
I guess my comment about weather might make a difference, in MIlwaukee overcast and gloomy on his visit, then ASU, warm weather, good looking party coeds
might make a difference to him.  I agree that weather sometimes does not make a difference all the time, but sometimes it does.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Boone on November 01, 2015, 10:11:51 AM
Wonder what Miller's correct-prediction % would be if 247 didn't allow him and the other 'experts' to change their forecasts right up to the moment of the commitment announcement?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Jay Bee on November 01, 2015, 10:23:42 AM
Wonder what Miller's correct-prediction % would be if 247 didn't allow him and the other 'experts' to change their forecasts right up to the moment of the commitment announcement?

The cristal bowel is a marketing toy.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on November 01, 2015, 10:38:03 AM
I guess my comment about weather might make a difference, in MIlwaukee overcast and gloomy on his visit, then ASU, warm weather, good looking party coeds
might make a difference to him.  I agree that weather sometimes does not make a difference all the time, but sometimes it does.

Easy to make a prediction like that when a recruit's choices, other than Marquette, are Arizona State, Mississippi State, Wichita State and Oklahoma State.  You have a 100% chance of saying that weather makes a difference, since each school other than Marquette has nicer and warmer weather come winter. 

Let's just disregard coaching prestige, coaching style, program prestige, conference prestige, playing time, playing style, academics and campus in recruiting.  Clearly, none of those matter to kids anymore.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: keefe on November 01, 2015, 11:22:42 AM
The cristal bowel is a marketing toy.

JB

The Jug is back in A2.

What a great game, though. Glad to see the other U of M being competitive.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: TAMU Eagle on November 01, 2015, 12:06:55 PM

Let's just disregard coaching prestige, coaching style, program prestige, conference prestige, playing time, playing style, academics and campus in recruiting.  Clearly, none of those matter to kids anymore.

I miss the NCAA football video games too
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: TedBaxter on November 01, 2015, 01:44:08 PM
One big difference between the Marquette and ASU visits for Willis is that his mom flew in from Mississippi and his dad from Madison for the visit while only his dad came to Marquette and only his mom went to the Mississippi State visit. Not sure who went to Wichita State.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Jay Bee on November 01, 2015, 06:26:41 PM
JB

The Jug is back in A2.

What a great game, though. Glad to see the other U of M being competitive.

Awful finish. Glad Kill is gone; not a good situation at the U. We're on the opposite trajectory of Michigan, IMO.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: wadesworld on November 01, 2015, 07:32:02 PM
Awful finish. Glad Kill is gone; not a good situation at the U. We're on the opposite trajectory of Michigan, IMO.

How much worse can Minni get? Not that they're totally awful but they've been mediocre for as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Jay Bee on November 01, 2015, 08:14:15 PM
How much worse can Minni get? Not that they're totally awful but they've been mediocre for as long as I can remember.

It can get worse than 8-5 that they've been the last two years. Problem is, I don't know that it can get better anytime soon. Need to find someone who can bring in talent.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: real chili 83 on November 02, 2015, 01:03:38 AM
Thought you were a Kill fan. Sid sure likes him.  Did you hear Sid and Dave's interview Sunday morning?

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Brewtown Andy on November 02, 2015, 08:29:43 AM
Wonder what Miller's correct-prediction % would be if 247 didn't allow him and the other 'experts' to change their forecasts right up to the moment of the commitment announcement?

The system does downgrade how many "points" they get the closer to the announcement that they make a pick, and even more so if they change a pick.

I was told that 247 does actually lock people out from changing or even making an initial pick within a certain time frame of a pending announcement.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Benny B on November 02, 2015, 09:32:36 AM
The system does downgrade how many "points" they get the closer to the announcement that they make a pick, and even more so if they change a pick.

I was told that 247 does actually lock people out from changing or even making an initial pick within a certain time frame of a pending announcement.

It's kind of like the NTN trivia games in bars... you lob in your best guess immediately, hoping for the 1000 points, and as the clues roll out, you change your guess to the correct answer and try to at least get a couple hundred.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: MU82 on November 03, 2015, 12:39:50 AM
How much worse can Minni get? Not that they're totally awful but they've been mediocre for as long as I can remember.

Where's John Gutekunst when you need him?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: TedBaxter on November 03, 2015, 07:08:02 AM
Wonder what Miller's correct-prediction % would be if 247 didn't allow him and the other 'experts' to change their forecasts right up to the moment of the commitment announcement?

Some recruiting situations have a lot of ebbs and flows and the Willis recruiting is no different.

To Mark Miller's credit, he is as connected as anyone in the state in regards to Wisconsin high school products and has the information to make educated predictions. Is he 100 percent accurate? No, but neither is anyone else.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: jsglow on November 11, 2015, 11:43:21 AM
Okay, I just struck Willis.  If someone sees the official LOI announcement for either of our two kids please post.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Pakuni on November 11, 2015, 11:58:44 AM
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/345978232.html

Marquette announced on Wednesday morning that Sam Hauser, a 6-foot-6 forward from Stevens Point, and Brendan Bailey, a 6-foot-7 forward from American Fork, Utah, have both signed a National Letter of Intent to join the Golden Eagles men's basketball team.
Hauser will join Marquette next year, claiming the 12th of 13 scholarships available for next season.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: wadesworld on November 11, 2015, 12:02:27 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/345978232.html

Marquette announced on Wednesday morning that Sam Hauser, a 6-foot-6 forward from Stevens Point, and Brendan Bailey, a 6-foot-7 forward from American Fork, Utah, have both signed a National Letter of Intent to join the Golden Eagles men's basketball team.
Hauser will join Marquette next year, claiming the 12th of 13 scholarships available for next season.

Outstanding.

11th of 13 when Hank leaves.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: jsglow on November 11, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
Welcome Sam and Brendan!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 11/11
Post by: jsglow on November 11, 2015, 01:40:56 PM
I'm going to guess that's it for the time being.  No doubt we'll keep in close touch with some kids and we'll have a much better idea in the Spring as to scholarships and available minutes for '16 - '17.  Personally, I'll find it interesting if we hear more tidbits about a PF type guy or about a 'late bloomer' such as Kostas.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 11/11
Post by: Henry the 6th Kings on November 11, 2015, 02:16:05 PM
Woeful was on Bill Micheals show and said Kostas is 6'10" now
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 11/11
Post by: tower912 on November 11, 2015, 06:27:06 PM
I agree that we are done until spring.    IF Wojo knows that Henry is staying, that would be the time to take a chance on a project like Kostas, one that could be red-shirted for a year.    Because if Henry stays, the minutes for 16-17 are all but set.   
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 11/11
Post by: MattyWarrior on November 11, 2015, 06:45:47 PM
MU ranked 24 in ESPN ranking of 2016 classes!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 11/11
Post by: Boone on November 11, 2015, 07:21:35 PM
Even if Henry stays (longshot), I'd hope we'd recruit another big. Our frontcourt still lacks depth.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 11/11
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 11, 2015, 11:08:10 PM
MU ranked 24 in ESPN ranking of 2016 classes!

http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1610213-signing-day-2016-top-25-hoops-class-rankings
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: jsglow on January 15, 2016, 08:55:18 AM
Up to date?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 11/11
Post by: GooooMarquette on January 15, 2016, 09:28:29 AM
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1610213-signing-day-2016-top-25-hoops-class-rankings

Says Bailey "won't join the Golden Eagles until 2018" because of his mission.

Has this been confirmed, or is it still speculation?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 11/11
Post by: MUfan12 on January 15, 2016, 09:30:24 AM
Has this been confirmed, or is it still speculation?

I don't know if it will ever be officially "confirmed," but he will be taking his mission.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 11/11
Post by: wadesworld on January 15, 2016, 09:31:39 AM
Says Bailey "won't join the Golden Eagles until 2018" because of his mission.

Has this been confirmed, or is it still speculation?

This has always been the plan and I have neither seen nor heard anything to suggest otherwise.

By the way, while I knew his dad Thurl had a nice NBA career, I didn't realize he played for the "Survive and Advance" NC State team until like the 3rd time I watched that 30 for 30.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 11/11
Post by: jsglow on January 15, 2016, 09:48:41 AM
I don't know if it will ever be officially "confirmed," but he will be taking his mission.

Right.  A couple of pages ago I mentioned that I'd use his anticipated start date unless we heard otherwise.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 11/11
Post by: w0bbie on January 15, 2016, 09:54:23 AM
Says Bailey "won't join the Golden Eagles until 2018" because of his mission.

Has this been confirmed, or is it still speculation?

Marquette's press release regarding Bailey's NLI  said the following.  I'd say that's as official as it's going to get.

"Bailey, a 6-8, 190-pounder, will arrive on campus in the summer of 2018 after completing a Mormon mission and have four years of eligibility with the Golden Eagles."

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/111115aaa.html (http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/111115aaa.html)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: GGGG on January 15, 2016, 10:13:03 AM
Right.  The only news would be if he changes his mind.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 11/11
Post by: 4th and State on January 15, 2016, 11:04:05 AM
Marquette's press release regarding Bailey's NLI  said the following.  I'd say that's as official as it's going to get.

"Bailey, a 6-8, 190-pounder, will arrive on campus in the summer of 2018 after completing a Mormon mission and have four years of eligibility with the Golden Eagles."

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/111115aaa.html (http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/111115aaa.html)

So does this hold up a scholie for the next two years until he arrives?  Sounds like he is really more of '18 recruit than a '16.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: GGGG on January 15, 2016, 11:05:56 AM
So does this hold up a scholie for the next two years until he arrives?  Sounds like he is really more of '18 recruit than a '16.

No. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: jsglow on January 15, 2016, 11:41:58 AM
Guys, is there anyone else using the original criterion to add to the list?  Remember, no guys we know are going to Duke/Kentucky that we just threw out a scholly offer to.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: bilsu on January 15, 2016, 06:43:39 PM
How about Amir Coffey when Pitino gets fired?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 15, 2016, 06:58:41 PM
How about Amir Coffey when Pitino gets fired?

Lol that's basically the reason he isn't getting fired for this pitiful team.

Gonna give him his good class to prove it once and for all.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: MUfan12 on January 19, 2016, 08:58:46 AM
MU going after 2016 PF Darius Hicks, one-time Miss. State commit.

http://hoopseen.com/index.php/news/hoopseen-20/item/4112-flyin-spotlight-darius-hicks
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: The Lens on January 19, 2016, 10:02:20 AM
MU going after 2016 PF Darius Hicks, one-time Miss. State commit.

http://hoopseen.com/index.php/news/hoopseen-20/item/4112-flyin-spotlight-darius-hicks

If Wojo can at least land a 3 star PF or C every year, eventually you have a nice set of big men.  I don't worry about him recruiting guards / wings.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: nyg on January 19, 2016, 10:05:13 AM
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/marquette-henry-ellenson-golden-eagles-freshman-nba-draft-lottery-011916

Nice Henry article on Fox Sports front page. I am sure Wojo probably realizes Henry is one and done and knows the front court will be weak with out him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: martyconlonontherun on January 19, 2016, 10:15:30 AM
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/marquette-henry-ellenson-golden-eagles-freshman-nba-draft-lottery-011916

Nice Henry article on Fox Sports front page. I am sure Wojo probably realizes Henry is one and done and knows the front court will be weak with out him.

It's a travesty that we were able to be more prepared to build around ellenson with 1 or 2 strong seniors. He deserved a shot at a deep tourney run with the way he has been playing. This is why I don't blame guys going to duke or Kentucky. You only get 1 shot at a championship so might as well take your best shot at it.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on January 19, 2016, 10:20:42 AM
It's a travesty that we were able to be more prepared to build around ellenson with 1 or 2 strong seniors. He deserved a shot at a deep tourney run with the way he has been playing. This is why I don't blame guys going to duke or Kentucky. You only get 1 shot at a championship so might as well take your best shot at it.
If trying to win a championship is important to him, he can come back for another year (or more).
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: brewcity77 on January 19, 2016, 11:16:02 AM
It's a travesty that we were able to be more prepared to build around ellenson with 1 or 2 strong seniors. He deserved a shot at a deep tourney run with the way he has been playing. This is why I don't blame guys going to duke or Kentucky. You only get 1 shot at a championship so might as well take your best shot at it.

Put Damion Lee and Shonn Miller on this team and it's a totally different season. Hopefully guys seeing us have some success, and especially the void left for a strong PF if Henry goes will put us in the market for those types come summer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: We R Final Four on January 19, 2016, 11:31:15 AM
You only get 1 shot at a championship so might as well take your best shot at it.

Actually, HE can have 4 shots at a championship.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: Earl Tatum on January 19, 2016, 11:53:24 AM
Boone-I've been saying this and I get shot down. (Big Man). Around 6-8 or 6-9 230 with an
attitude for rebounding or mixing it up under the basket and I get jumped on.Mentioned a
UW player for an example 6-8 245. I didn't want the player but wished for some one that size.
You can't score if you don't have the ball. I like Bailey and Hauser. Hopefully Markus Howard
makes it to MU.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: Windyplayer on January 19, 2016, 11:57:28 AM
Around 6-8 or 6-9 230 with an attitude for rebounding or mixing it up under the basket
I've craved that for the better part of a decade.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on January 19, 2016, 12:15:44 PM
I've craved that for the better part of a decade.

Darralyn Willis would have been nice start, 6'8 225.
(https://ct.yimg.com/mr/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/DARRYLN-WILLIS-151028-PRO.JPG)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: BM1090 on January 19, 2016, 12:23:06 PM
Boone-I've been saying this and I get shot down. (Big Man). Around 6-8 or 6-9 230 with an
attitude for rebounding or mixing it up under the basket and I get jumped on.Mentioned a
UW player for an example 6-8 245. I didn't want the player but wished for some one that size.
You can't score if you don't have the ball. I like Bailey and Hauser. Hopefully Markus Howard
makes it to MU.

How about Darius Hicks? Says Marquette and Providence are recruiting him the hardest

http://hoopseen.com/index.php/news/hoopseen-20/item/4112-flyin-spotlight-darius-hicks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOge3psZWZA
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on January 19, 2016, 12:35:15 PM
How about Darius Hicks? Says Marquette and Providence are recruiting him the hardest

http://hoopseen.com/index.php/news/hoopseen-20/item/4112-flyin-spotlight-darius-hicks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOge3psZWZA

Anyone else see a couple of his recent follow's  :o
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: BM1090 on January 19, 2016, 12:37:43 PM
Anyone else see a couple of his recent follow's  :o

Well, now I did.....

He did just retweet something from Haanif, FWIW (nothing.)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on January 19, 2016, 01:23:12 PM
How about Darius Hicks? Says Marquette and Providence are recruiting him the hardest

http://hoopseen.com/index.php/news/hoopseen-20/item/4112-flyin-spotlight-darius-hicks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOge3psZWZA

Yes please!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 19, 2016, 01:46:03 PM
Couple of kids to look out for in the future. I know Marquette has looked at Nojel Eastern from Evanston. Couple of really good kids too from Niles North. Damaria Franklin who is averaging close to 17 a game as a sophomore. He's currently 6'1" but his dad is closer to 6'4" so hoping he grows a little more and Damone Williams-Grey. Starting on varsity as a freshman and already 6'5". Kid is gonna be a stud.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: LloydsLegs on January 19, 2016, 01:57:31 PM
MU going after 2016 PF Darius Hicks, one-time Miss. State commit.

http://hoopseen.com/index.php/news/hoopseen-20/item/4112-flyin-spotlight-darius-hicks

Chris C watched him play last week
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: jsglow on January 19, 2016, 02:42:29 PM
How about Darius Hicks? Says Marquette and Providence are recruiting him the hardest

http://hoopseen.com/index.php/news/hoopseen-20/item/4112-flyin-spotlight-darius-hicks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOge3psZWZA

So he's in Prep?  He's a '16 with 4 years eligibility?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: jsglow on January 19, 2016, 08:46:21 PM
When BD speaks, I add to the chart.   8-)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: MUfan12 on January 19, 2016, 08:54:28 PM
So he's in Prep?  He's a '16 with 4 years eligibility?

Yep. I believe he played three years at home and is playing his senior year at the prep school.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on January 20, 2016, 02:04:34 AM
Chris C watched him play last week

Has MU offered? I saw Providence did in Novemeber & plans to visit there (& others) in February / March, according to 247.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: Earl Tatum on January 20, 2016, 08:20:34 AM
Hey Boone-Agree all the way. Thanks
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: Earl Tatum on January 20, 2016, 08:23:58 AM
MARK MILLER----Tell these guys what you think of Trev Anderson. Old News-Herald Sports Writer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: wadesworld on January 20, 2016, 08:54:43 AM
MARK MILLER----Tell these guys what you think of Trev Anderson. Old News-Herald Sports Writer.

The kid's going to UWGB.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on January 20, 2016, 09:02:52 AM
MARK MILLER----Tell these guys what you think of Trev Anderson. Old News-Herald Sports Writer.

He's committed elsewhere. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks at this point
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: Herman Cain on January 20, 2016, 09:23:49 AM
He's committed elsewhere. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks at this point
We need to recruit the kid who hit the halftime shot at TAMU yesterday.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: MUfan12 on January 20, 2016, 09:44:37 AM
MARK MILLER----Tell these guys what you think of Trev Anderson. Old News-Herald Sports Writer.

Trev's a killer, man. Love his game, and I'm glad he didn't settle for a walk-on role at UW.

I will be rooting hard for him at UWGB.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: GGGG on January 20, 2016, 09:47:55 AM
Trev's a killer, man. Love his game, and I'm glad he didn't settle for a walk-on role at UW.

I will be rooting hard for him at UWGB.


And I love the coach he is playing for.  Fun system for a guard to play in.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: MUfan12 on January 20, 2016, 09:53:31 AM
And I love the coach he is playing for.  Fun system for a guard to play in.

I'll be keeping an eye on them, especially once Darner can get his players in. Replacing Foust and Love will be a challenge, but they certainly won't be boring to watch.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: MUfan12 on January 20, 2016, 10:19:29 AM
Another 2016 big on the radar- https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/689841338737647616
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on January 20, 2016, 12:06:38 PM
Another 2016 big on the radar- https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/689841338737647616

Wasn't expecting St.Bonaventure on his list.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on January 20, 2016, 12:16:18 PM
Another 2016 big on the radar- https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/689841338737647616

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWrFxjNDhU8

Kid is big. Knows how to use his body. Handles well for a guy his size. Doesn't appear to have much or any range. Seems like an above average defender. Currently not ranked, might be because hes from Canada. Looks like a solid three star kid to me. Pitt and Providence both involved.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on January 20, 2016, 12:21:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWrFxjNDhU8

Kid is big. Knows how to use his body. Handles well for a guy his size. Doesn't appear to have much or any range. Seems like an above average defender. Currently not ranked, might be because hes from Canada. Looks like a solid three star kid to me. Pitt and Providence both involved.

Duke, Indiana, Syracuse all watching Kalif Young tonight. Gulp
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: LAZER on January 26, 2016, 12:16:10 PM
Didn't see this posted anywhere, but MU offered Brandon Randolph last week.

6-6 SG from New York

http://247sports.com/Player/Brandon-Randolph-87972
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on January 26, 2016, 12:22:39 PM
Didn't see this posted anywhere, but MU offered Brandon Randolph last week.

6-6 SG from New York

http://247sports.com/Player/Brandon-Randolph-87972

Temple and Louisville offered right after we did. Clearly, they are riding our coattails.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 26, 2016, 01:46:27 PM
That's it, the ladies of Loiusville will entice him there, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 03, 2016, 11:14:44 PM
Saw Mark tweet out that Memphis offered Bennett Vander Plas of Ripon tonight (6'8, 235, '17).

MU target?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: 4everCrean on February 04, 2016, 06:22:27 PM
That's it, the ladies of Loiusville will entice him there, ai na?

Nah, they're all too busy writing tell all books.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: We R Final Four on February 04, 2016, 08:33:31 PM
Saw Mark tweet out that Memphis offered Bennett Vander Plas of Ripon tonight (6'8, 235, '17).

MU target?
Relation to the Oostburg/UWGB dean vander Plas? Not like it's Johnson or Jackson or jones.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 04, 2016, 08:46:57 PM
Relation to the Oostburg/UWGB dean vander Plas? Not like it's Johnson or Jackson or jones.

His son
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 05, 2016, 10:55:55 AM
I posted this in the 4 spot thread. But Carrawell was out to see Kalif Young last night. The 6'9, 265 PF from Canada for 2016 class. Ed Cooley and 3 assistants were front and center, Prov offered last month. Duke, Syracuse, and others have been watching him lately.

Edit -- sounds like MU has offered now. Would be a nice fit in the big east. Hopefully not for Prov
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 05, 2016, 01:42:26 PM
I posted this in the 4 spot thread. But Carrawell was out to see Kalif Young last night. The 6'9, 265 PF from Canada for 2016 class. Ed Cooley and 3 assistants were front and center, Prov offered last month. Duke, Syracuse, and others have been watching him lately.

Edit -- sounds like MU has offered now. Would be a nice fit in the big east. Hopefully not for Prov

Let's get him.

Can't hurt.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: brewcity77 on February 05, 2016, 02:04:33 PM
I posted this in the 4 spot thread. But Carrawell was out to see Kalif Young last night. The 6'9, 265 PF from Canada for 2016 class. Ed Cooley and 3 assistants were front and center, Prov offered last month. Duke, Syracuse, and others have been watching him lately.

Edit -- sounds like MU has offered now. Would be a nice fit in the big east. Hopefully not for Prov

This time last year, Wojo landed Carter and Anim late. Be interesting to see how he does this time around with guys like Howard, Young, and Fernando.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 05, 2016, 02:26:18 PM
This time last year, Wojo landed Carter and Anim late. Be interesting to see how he does this time around with guys like Howard, Young, and Fernando.

Whose Fernando? Size?

Let's bring him on board if so!!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 05, 2016, 02:37:21 PM
Whose Fernando? Size?

Let's bring him on board if so!!

Kid is a beast. Looking to reclassify from 2017 to 2016. 6'10, 240. Duke and others picking up interest in him also lately. Don't believe he's taken the ACT / SAT yet

(https://usathss.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/3932230-e1451778287303.jpg?w=1000)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: brewcity77 on February 05, 2016, 03:06:24 PM
Fernando reminds me of those bigs that SJU always seems to find, but maybe with a bit more polished of a frame. The big, athletic kids that can swat shots and do work down low. Not necessarily prototypical size at 6'9", but has the athleticism and strength to play the 4 or 5. Seems like just about the entire SEC along with Duke and some others are after him. Won't be easy to get. Currently is a 2016 recruit, but as WarriorPride68 indicates, there is a chance he'd be 2017. If he doesn't get eligible, he'll probably do a post-grad year at Monteverde. He's at the same school Jamail Jones went to.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 05, 2016, 03:09:32 PM
Fernando reminds me of those bigs that SJU always seems to find, but maybe with a bit more polished of a frame. The big, athletic kids that can swat shots and do work down low. Not necessarily prototypical size at 6'9", but has the athleticism and strength to play the 4 or 5. Seems like just about the entire SEC along with Duke and some others are after him. Won't be easy to get. Currently is a 2016 recruit, but as WarriorPride68 indicates, there is a chance he'd be 2017. If he doesn't get eligible, he'll probably do a post-grad year at Monteverde. He's at the same school Jamail Jones went to.

Lol so he's the opposite of Howard? Actually a 16 but may end up being '17?

Anyways, hopefully the guy finds a way to pass the tests and Wojo really lures him in!!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: brewcity77 on February 05, 2016, 03:46:07 PM
Lol so he's the opposite of Howard? Actually a 16 but may end up being '17?

Anyways, hopefully the guy finds a way to pass the tests and Wojo really lures him in!!

Exactly. He's working to get eligible for 2016 and all interviews indicate he is planning on attending college next year, but the possibility of being pushed off to 2017 is still there if things don't go well this year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: tompopsicle on February 05, 2016, 04:31:10 PM
Any word on 2017 Terrence Lewis of Milwaukee Riverside? Has anyone seen him play?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 05, 2016, 04:47:32 PM
Any word on 2017 Terrence Lewis of Milwaukee Riverside? Has anyone seen him play?

Carrawell watched him last weekend. Purdue, Xavier, ISU all in to visit him recently. Including an offer from Prohm & ISU recently
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: MuMark on February 05, 2016, 07:47:24 PM
I posted this in the 4 spot thread. But Carrawell was out to see Kalif Young last night. The 6'9, 265 PF from Canada for 2016 class. Ed Cooley and 3 assistants were front and center, Prov offered last month. Duke, Syracuse, and others have been watching him lately.

Edit -- sounds like MU has offered now. Would be a nice fit in the big east. Hopefully not for Prov

Where did you see that MU has offered?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: brewcity77 on February 05, 2016, 08:49:49 PM
2017 C Theo John will visit for the Creighton game on Feb 13.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 06, 2016, 01:41:30 AM
Where did you see that MU has offered?

From yesterday:

"Orangeville Prep big man Kalif Young remains open with the process but did mention offers from Providence, Marquette, Auburn, St. Bonaventure’s, and Pitt; Duke and Syracuse are showing further interest."

http://hoopseen.com/index.php/news/headlines/item/4174-npsi-day-one-miye-oni-scorches-the-nets
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 8/1
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 06, 2016, 05:33:49 AM
Most 18 year old males would love to spend two years in some kind of missionary position, ai-na?

+++1  ya wonder how it got it's name "missionary" position eh'na? as the missionaries are thought to have sworn to celibacy??  well sometimes i guess a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do to help
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: jsglow on February 06, 2016, 08:12:34 AM
Okay, I did a little clean-up.  No reason not to remove all the deadwood.  Anybody important (and realistic) I'm missing?  Note, I'm leaving Kostas on until he pulls the trigger somewhere.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 06, 2016, 12:07:54 PM
2017 C Theo John will visit for the Creighton game on Feb 13.

Watched him play recently. He's definitely further along then Wright is. John has some real potential.

JBee probably knows a lot more. But in my opinion it's good to get John in here
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 06, 2016, 05:41:58 PM
2017 C Theo John will visit for the Creighton game on Feb 13.


Minnesota (Ben Johnson) & Wisconsin (Greg Gard) were watching Theo John last night in MN
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: 4everCrean on February 07, 2016, 02:40:40 PM
I don't follow recruits as closely as many of you guys, but the impression that I've gotten is that Brendan Bailey and Sam Hauser are similar players.  Can anyone compare and contrast?  (Blue book optional)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 07, 2016, 08:56:59 PM
Creighton just landed a top 30-50 overall SG for class of 2017 tonight who had a Kansas offer.

Didn't see that coming
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 1/15
Post by: mr.MUskie on February 08, 2016, 01:07:29 AM
I posted this in the 4 spot thread. But Carrawell was out to see Kalif Young last night. The 6'9, 265 PF from Canada for 2016 class. Ed Cooley and 3 assistants were front and center, Prov offered last month. Duke, Syracuse, and others have been watching him lately.

Edit -- sounds like MU has offered now. Would be a nice fit in the big east. Hopefully not for Prov

http://youtu.be/WWrFxjNDhU8
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: brewcity77 on February 08, 2016, 12:06:28 PM
I don't follow recruits as closely as many of you guys, but the impression that I've gotten is that Brendan Bailey and Sam Hauser are similar players.  Can anyone compare and contrast?  (Blue book optional)

I think there's some accuracy to that right now, but I think they project as very different players.

First, Sam is a better shooter. He is a good decision maker that takes the right shots and knows how to free himself, getting good position for an open shot. Bailey can shoot, but he's more streaky. Next, size-wise, they both have that lanky wing look to them now, but I think Sam projects as a spot-up shooting small forward/wing whereas the hope is Bailey will grow another inch or two (6'8" now, his dad was 6'11") and fill out. In 2-3 years, my guess is Bailey will be playing the stretch 4 role. Then there's the basketball IQ/athleticism comparisons. I think Sam is a better decision maker currently and does a better job of finding his spots on the court, though he's not necessarily a great athlete (he's a good one, but not jump off the page good). Bailey has great athleticism, but still needs work on shot selection. At times, Bailey looks like the son of a top-10 NBA pick. He'll need to work on doing that consistently and getting his play to mirror his raw ability level.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Jet915 on February 08, 2016, 01:32:22 PM
Creighton just landed a top 30-50 overall SG for class of 2017 tonight who had a Kansas offer.

Didn't see that coming

Surprised as well but we have been recruiting him since he was in 8th grade.  Mitchell Ballock is #43 on ESPN and had offers from Kansas, Oklahoma, Indiana to name a few.  He joins Ty-Shon Alexander who is another SG for 2017 and who is #44 on ESPN.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 08, 2016, 01:37:49 PM
Surprised as well but we have been recruiting him since he was in 8th grade.  Mitchell Ballock is #43 on ESPN and had offers from Kansas, Oklahoma, Indiana to name a few.  He joins Ty-Shon Alexander who is another SG for 2017 and who is #44 on ESPN.

Damn. McDermott putting in work over there for you guys. Already two top 50 kids for 2017. New Big east continues to take steps forward
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU82 on February 08, 2016, 01:41:31 PM
FWIW (probably not much), I knew Thurl Bailey fairly well when we were both in Minnesota. Real class act, and I'm guessing Brendan is, too.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: BM1090 on February 08, 2016, 04:23:58 PM
Marquette offered Jordan Bowden today. 2016 recruit.

http://www.phenomhoopreport.com/news_article/show/588193-name-to-know-6-5-unsigned-senior-jordan-bowden-of-22-feet-academy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgxljaT3gHo

http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1634793-jordan-bowden-continues-to-open-eyes
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: muhoops1 on February 08, 2016, 04:25:27 PM
see above
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 08, 2016, 04:49:41 PM
Marquette offered Jordan Bowden today. 2016 recruit.

Very intriguing prospect. High ceiling kid. At this moment, MU & Utah his top offers
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: HoopsterBC on February 08, 2016, 05:08:27 PM
Very intriguing prospect. High ceiling kid. At this moment, MU & Utah his top offers

Glad to see there turning every stone over to fine some players!  One thing MU budget is huge, that helps.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 08, 2016, 05:12:44 PM
Glad to see there turning every stone over to fine some players!  One thing MU budget is huge, that helps.

Wojo is watching him today per Brian Snow

247 profile: http://247sports.com/Player/Jordan-Bowden-88234
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 08, 2016, 05:25:29 PM
Another guard?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 08, 2016, 06:07:51 PM
Another guard?

People leaving?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 08, 2016, 06:33:00 PM
People leaving?

I wonder if M.Howard is staying in 2017 or (hopefully not) eliminated Marquette?

Kalif Young & Jordan Bowden both picked up MU offers in recent days
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: forgetful on February 08, 2016, 06:50:13 PM
People leaving?

My guess is that Henry going pro and Wally focusing on high jump will leave us with two spots open next year. 

One is reserved for Howard, if he reclassifies and chooses MU in April.

The other goes to best available 2016 and/or a graduate transfer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Litehouse on February 08, 2016, 07:29:33 PM
Why would Wally leave next year and focus on high jump?  Next olympics would be in 2020, so plenty of time to train after he's done playing.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Herman Cain on February 08, 2016, 08:55:35 PM
Damn. McDermott putting in work over there for you guys. Already two top 50 kids for 2017. New Big east continues to take steps forward
Creighton has a lot to offer recruits. Sold out arena, Big East exposure, commitment and tradition etc. Maurice Watson cited these reasons specifically when he transferred to Creighton from Boston University.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 08, 2016, 09:22:08 PM
My guess is that Henry going pro and Wally focusing on high jump will leave us with two spots open next year. 

One is reserved for Howard, if he reclassifies and chooses MU in April.

The other goes to best available 2016 and/or a graduate transfer.

Wally will be playing hoops next year, unless you are aware of something else going on.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: bilsu on February 08, 2016, 09:49:05 PM
Creighton has a lot to offer recruits. Sold out arena, Big East exposure, commitment and tradition etc. Maurice Watson cited these reasons specifically when he transferred to Creighton from Boston University.
I am not sure how it plays into recruiting overall, but going to the New Big East was a step up for Creighton and something they can sell to recruits. MU going to the New Big East was a step down for them and I am not sure how you sell it.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU82 on February 08, 2016, 10:07:40 PM
I am not sure how it plays into recruiting overall, but going to the New Big East was a step up for Creighton and something they can sell to recruits. MU going to the New Big East was a step down for them and I am not sure how you sell it.

Well, the current freshmen ARE part of MU's highest-rated recruiting class since well before we were in the old BE, and this year's recruiting class is already ranked in the top 25, so I guess Wojo has been able to sell it OK.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 08, 2016, 10:30:10 PM
Kalif Young sounds not to far off from getting a Syracuse offer. Providence offered awhile back & had 3 coaches including Ed Cooley at his games over the weekend, the same which Carrawell attended.

If Wojo can haul him in. Everyone should be very impressed
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Herman Cain on February 08, 2016, 10:31:10 PM
I am not sure how it plays into recruiting overall, but going to the New Big East was a step up for Creighton and something they can sell to recruits. MU going to the New Big East was a step down for them and I am not sure how you sell it.
Creighton is definitely taking good advantage of the Big East. It is not only helping the school in a basketball sense but it is helping its overall reputation as it is now in a league with more respected academic schools versus being in the Missouri Valley.

I think as the Big East presently configured solidifies over time, it becomes an increasingly attractive option for recruiting. All of the schools are attractive to student athletes in a general sense. Then add in the primary commitment to basketball each school has and the success of the teams and individuals involved it makes the selling proposition compelling.

Also I don't think for Marquette it was a step down. Yes there were some well recognized opponents in the old league, But also a lot of dogs. Also remember the marquee teams had all left the old league already  prior to the creation of the new league. Syracuse , Pitt, Notre Dame, Louisville, West  Virginia to go to the ACC or Big Twelve. We had no say in that matter. We did not trade down from that league, it imploded around us.

The Big East ,which we would have been a member of,  is now the American.  That league  which would have had U Conn, Cincy, Memphis , SMU but also ECU , UCF, South Florida, Tulane etc and the Catholic 7 .No one is disputing that the Big East is a better  performing conference than the American. So by leaving that league and forming our new league,I think we are better off recruiting

 In many respects , I prefer the new structure as it is more closely aligned to what the Big East was when it originally started and first developed its reputation.  The way the league is configured now, MU can put together a high quality non conference (if we want to) and have a very competitive conference season playing several highly ranked teams multiple times a year. If a kid is thinking about the next level, all they have to look at is the number of scouts that come to our games to watch guys like Henry , Kris Dunn etc.

The quality of the recruits across the board in the league is high. This is due to many factors but in no small part because we have a league with a clear and focused identity. Each year we are going to keep getting better as a league which has a circular effect of making it attractive for recruiting.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 09, 2016, 07:04:22 AM
I wonder if M.Howard is staying in 2017 or (hopefully not) eliminated Marquette?

Kalif Young & Jordan Bowden both picked up MU offers in recent days

No.

As a coach, you are always recruiting. Even after all your scholarships are filled. Bowden and Young getting offers have nothing to do with Markus Howard. Especially since they both play a different position than he does.

"Offer" is a very misleading term. Really means nothing more than the coach has verbally committed to being interested in a recruit. A recruit could "accept an offer" and the coach could still say "no, I'm not going to take you yet."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: muballbuster on February 09, 2016, 07:56:46 AM
Check Jordan Bowden Twitter and Kalif Young's Twitter as of the last 24 hours.

Jordan Bowden (@JordyBow3)

Kalif Young (@youngkalif13)

Some MU chatter!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: brewcity77 on February 09, 2016, 08:11:57 AM
Bowden is interesting because he really is a late bloomer. He had two huge growth spurts. He was only 4'9" in seventh grade, but by his sophomore year had grown to 5'10". Thought he was done growing, then started feeling knee pain that preceded a second spurt up to 6'5". Might be one of those kids who developed the handle of a PG with the size of a SG/SF.

Not saying he's Anthony Davis, but maybe he can get one more spurt up to 6'10"? ;D
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MUfan12 on February 09, 2016, 08:59:37 AM
Watched some video on Bowden last night... his tape from HS reminded me a little of Jajuan as a high schooler. He's filled out quite a bit between his SR year and Prep year, and his footwork on his jumper is much improved.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 09, 2016, 09:04:59 AM
No.

As a coach, you are always recruiting. Even after all your scholarships are filled. Bowden and Young getting offers have nothing to do with Markus Howard. Especially since they both play a different position than he does.

"Offer" is a very misleading term. Really means nothing more than the coach has verbally committed to being interested in a recruit. A recruit could "accept an offer" and the coach could still say "no, I'm not going to take you yet."

If a coach has two openings and 5 "offers" out there he would surely take commitments from his top 2 targets. If the guys who's #5 on the coach's wish list wants to commit he might ask him to wait a bit to see how things shake out.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU82 on February 09, 2016, 09:06:52 AM
Check Jordan Bowden Twitter and Kalif Young's Twitter as of the last 24 hours.

Jordan Bowden (@JordyBow3)

Kalif Young (@youngkalif13)

Some MU chatter!

Watch it. Some folks here think it's "creepy" to follow a high school athlete on Twitter. Of course, some folks have interesting opinions about lots of things.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 09, 2016, 09:07:54 AM
If a coach has two openings and 5 "offers" out there he would surely take commitments from his top 2 targets. If the guys who's #5 on the coach's wish list wants to commit he might ask him to wait a bit to see how things shake out.

I think that's what I said.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 09, 2016, 09:11:51 AM
No.

As a coach, you are always recruiting. Even after all your scholarships are filled. Bowden and Young getting offers have nothing to do with Markus Howard. Especially since they both play a different position than he does.

"Offer" is a very misleading term. Really means nothing more than the coach has verbally committed to being interested in a recruit. A recruit could "accept an offer" and the coach could still say "no, I'm not going to take you yet."

Understood. A 247 writer told me his new piece on MH would be coming out today or Tmr so I thought it could be MH related
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 09, 2016, 09:20:13 AM
Bowden looks interesting.  Obviously, you never stop recruiting, but it does seem a bit odd. Either Wojo isn't very confident in landing Markus Howard (or he isn't reclassifying), or he thinks someone is leaving.  Have to imagine Wojo wants to leave a spot open for a grad transfer, too.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 09, 2016, 09:20:56 AM
I think that's what I said.

I was clarifying what you said and agreeing with you.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 09, 2016, 09:22:26 AM
I was clarifying what you said and agreeing with you.

Gotcha, honestly not used to people agreeing with people on here, haha
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: wadesworld on February 09, 2016, 09:33:47 AM
Bowden is a 6'5" SF.  Howard is a 5'10" PG.  Not sure that one has anything to do with the other.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 09, 2016, 09:36:10 AM
Bowden is a 6'5" SF.  Howard is a 5'10" PG.  Not sure that one has anything to do with the other.

The fact that there are two only scholarships remaining for next year (assuming HE leaves) has something to do with one another.  If Bowden were to commit, that means either Howard isn't coming (whether that be he is going elsewhere or staying at 2017), or we aren't getting a PF, whether that be a Kalif Young or a grad transfer big.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: The Lens on February 09, 2016, 09:47:53 AM
Wojo could always adopt someone and pay his way...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: wadesworld on February 09, 2016, 10:04:28 AM
The fact that there are two only scholarships remaining for next year (assuming HE leaves) has something to do with one another.  If Bowden were to commit, that means either Howard isn't coming (whether that be he is going elsewhere or staying at 2017), or we aren't getting a PF, whether that be a Kalif Young or a grad transfer big.

Yes, but then every single scholarship offer would have something to do with each other.  Every coach in college basketball, even Cal, knows he isn't going to bat 1.000 on recruits.  Just because some coaches give out 20 offers to a certain class doesn't mean they're expecting all 13 of their scholarship players not to return, plus to have 7 kids commit and then decommit.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 09, 2016, 10:08:29 AM
Yes, but then every single scholarship offer would have something to do with each other.  Every coach in college basketball, even Cal, knows he isn't going to bat 1.000 on recruits.  Just because some coaches give out 20 offers to a certain class doesn't mean they're expecting all 13 of their scholarship players not to return, plus to have 7 kids commit and then decommit.

I realize that. 2 scholarships is quite a bit different than 13 and this team needs a big next year in a BAAAADDDD way.  My guess is one scholarship will be saved for a grad transfer big. That basically leaves one, again assuming HE leaves.

Like I said, never stop recruiting.     
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 09, 2016, 10:31:45 AM
Bowden looks interesting.  Obviously, you never stop recruiting, but it does seem a bit odd. Either Wojo isn't very confident in landing Markus Howard (or he isn't reclassifying), or he thinks someone is leaving.  Have to imagine Wojo wants to leave a spot open for a grad transfer, too.

Offers ain't worth sh*t. A made up term to help fans understand who their coaches are interested in. Howard's recruitment hasn't changed in the slightest and no one is planning on leaving. Bowden is just also on the list as a possibility.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Herman Cain on February 09, 2016, 12:59:31 PM
Last year there were a couple of good examples of how the "offer" process works.

Matt Ryan, who ultimately went to Notre Dame, had "offers" from UNC , Duke etc. He had surgery and suddenly those offers disappeared pending his recovery,those schools strung him out and never did re offer. MU and Creighton got in the process at the end hoping to pick him up.  Notre Dame never wavered on their offer and then put some pressure on him to accept, which he did, as he stated he did not want to lose the offer.

Similarly, Matt Heldt  who was on the rise in recruiting,received a bona fide actionable offer from MU and accepted under the bird in the hand theory , knowing these things can change.

Recruiting is a juggling act on both sides. Everyone once in awhile  it gets screwed up like Buzz did with Newbill. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 09, 2016, 03:03:29 PM
Zags piece on Kalif Young today:

Young also holds offers from Marquette, Providence, Pittsburgh, Alabama, Minnesota, St. Bonaventure and Illinois State.

"Kalif is a very skilled lefty with college strength already," Blunt said. "He has incredible feel for the game and can shoot the ball consistently from 17 feet in, and the pick-and-pop 3. You can throw the ball to Kalif on the block and not only can he score, but he is an exceptional passer. He can hedge on ball screens and even switch out on guards in late-shot clock situations. He's a great kid with a great family.

"Kalif will be a household name before the year is out."

Blunt said Young is in "no rush" to make a decision.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: muhoops1 on February 09, 2016, 07:40:08 PM
Stan Johnson in Detroit to watch 2017 SF Jamal Cain according to Prep Hoops MI

https://youtu.be/q9pLravgqJM
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: forgetful on February 09, 2016, 08:14:49 PM
In an ideal world we sign:

Bruno Fernando or Khalif Young

and

Howard reclassifies to join MU's 2016 class. 

If my counts are correct, that would fill our class and if for some reason Wally decided to forgo his senior season to focus on High Jump, we would have a third spot for a grad transfer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 09, 2016, 08:19:15 PM
In an ideal world we sign:

Bruno Fernando or Khalif Young

and

Howard reclassifies to join MU's 2016 class. 

If my counts are correct, that would fill our class and if for some reason Wally decided to forgo his senior season to focus on High Jump, we would have a third spot for a grad transfer.

Sign me up for that!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 09, 2016, 09:10:23 PM
Was Wojo at the SPASH game? Per twitter, Becky's HC was there. I assume somebody from mu went
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 10, 2016, 09:42:02 AM
In an ideal world we sign:

Bruno Fernando or Khalif Young

and

Howard reclassifies to join MU's 2016 class. 

If my counts are correct, that would fill our class and if for some reason Wally decided to forgo his senior season to focus on High Jump, we would have a third spot for a grad transfer.

The offer to Young is pretty nice. Kid really is really picking up steam right now and it sounds like he doesn't have a lean one way or the other. The mid-range game is an added bonus.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 11, 2016, 08:03:32 PM
Wojo watching Bruno tonight
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: tower912 on February 11, 2016, 08:08:37 PM
Wojo watching Bruno tonight

He's too hot (hot damn).......    I don't believe he just watched.... don't believe he just watched...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 11, 2016, 08:19:05 PM
He's too hot (hot damn).......    I don't believe he just watched.... don't believe he just watched...

You win the Internet :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: bilsu on February 11, 2016, 08:26:27 PM
Wojo could always adopt someone and pay his way...
I could see Henry paying for Wally to allow us to use Wally's scholarship.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MuMark on February 12, 2016, 04:50:59 PM
https://twitter.com/aslater247/status/698276959340597248
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 12, 2016, 05:10:13 PM
https://twitter.com/aslater247/status/698276959340597248

Tough but beatable competition. Gotta believe Florida state is one of the frontrunners.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 12, 2016, 05:15:59 PM
Tough but beatable competition. Gotta believe Florida state is one of the frontrunners.

Was told yesterday NC State visited him 2 weeks ago & will offer next time they see him. He started following Gottfried today.

FSU definitely hard to beat if they offer. Jon Issac is doing all he can :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MomofMUltiples on February 12, 2016, 05:52:05 PM
In an ideal world we sign:

Bruno Fernando or Khalif Young

and

Howard reclassifies to join MU's 2016 class. 

If my counts are correct, that would fill our class and if for some reason Wally decided to forgo his senior season to focus on High Jump, we would have a third spot for a grad transfer.

2016 is Wally's last year of eligibility for outdoor track.  Because he only had to sit out in basketball last year, he has already had three seasons (two at Minny and one at Marquette).  He does still have two years of eligibility for indoor track, because he's only done indoor in 2014 for Minny and 2015 for Marquette. 

Don't see any reason why he would quit hoops to concentrate on high jump - it will be two years to the next worlds and four years to the next olympics in 2017.  He's always expressed his love for bball first, with high jump just being something he "happens to be good at."

But yes, if Henry is feeling generous, maybe he will pay Wally's way and free up a scholly for a new PF.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: GGGG on February 12, 2016, 06:52:36 PM
2016 is Wally's last year of eligibility for outdoor track.  Because he only had to sit out in basketball last year, he has already had three seasons (two at Minny and one at Marquette).  He does still have two years of eligibility for indoor track, because he's only done indoor in 2014 for Minny and 2015 for Marquette. 

Don't see any reason why he would quit hoops to concentrate on high jump - it will be two years to the next worlds and four years to the next olympics in 2017.  He's always expressed his love for bball first, with high jump just being something he "happens to be good at."

But yes, if Henry is feeling generous, maybe he will pay Wally's way and free up a scholly for a new PF.

Maybe Wojo can adopt him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU82 on February 12, 2016, 07:24:04 PM
But yes, if Henry is feeling generous, maybe he will pay Wally's way and free up a scholly for a new PF.

How would that conversation go?

W: "I sure wish I was playing more. Maybe after you go pro, I finally will get some court time."

H: "Umm ... yeah ... I wanted to talk to you about that. I told Wojo to take you off aid and I'll pay for your senior year. That way he can use the scholarship on somebody to plant your arse even more firmly on the bench."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 12, 2016, 08:45:02 PM
Wojo watching Eric Gordon bro tonight (2016)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 12, 2016, 08:51:44 PM
Wojo watching Eric Gordon bro tonight (2016)

Eric Gordon, like Pelicans guard Eric Gordon?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 12, 2016, 08:54:09 PM
Eric Gordon, like Pelicans guard Eric Gordon?

To answer my own question, yes.  Eron Gordon.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Pakuni on February 12, 2016, 09:25:50 PM
Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria
2018 F @LanX_Sims said Marquette offered him last night. Interest from Kentucky, Wake and others. Kid looks like a pro.

6'8" PF at Simi craptu of Montverde Academy, via Burlington Ontario.
http://247sports.com/Player/Simi-craptu-86023

Ha ... his last name is S-h-i-t-t-u, but it's being auto-corrected to craptu. That's awesome.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: jsglow on February 12, 2016, 09:46:10 PM
I had to put Simi in IMMEDIATELY.  Hilarious that his last name gets auto-corrected!  Where's the dang override button!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 12, 2016, 11:42:48 PM
Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria
2018 F @LanX_Sims said Marquette offered him last night. Interest from Kentucky, Wake and others. Kid looks like a pro.

6'8" PF at Simi craptu of Montverde Academy, via Burlington Ontario.
http://247sports.com/Player/Simi-craptu-86023

Ha ... his last name is S-h-i-t-t-u, but it's being auto-corrected to craptu. That's awesome.

That's a big fish Wojo is going after. Him and his teammate would be amazing gets. Let's open that Florida pipeline
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 12, 2016, 11:54:44 PM
Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria
2018 F @LanX_Sims said Marquette offered him last night. Interest from Kentucky, Wake and others. Kid looks like a pro.

6'8" PF at Simi craptu of Montverde Academy, via Burlington Ontario.
http://247sports.com/Player/Simi-craptu-86023

Ha ... his last name is S-h-i-t-t-u, but it's being auto-corrected to craptu. That's awesome.


Top 5 player in country. He will be a blue blood. Doesn't hurt to offer though. Great player
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 13, 2016, 12:02:19 AM

Top 5 player in country. He will be a blue blood. Doesn't hurt to offer though. Great player

7 of the top 10 recruits in 2015 didn't go to blue bloods. We are in early craptu. Long way from #donedeal but it's not a foregone conclusion that a blue bloods will get him
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: brewcity77 on February 13, 2016, 06:31:40 AM

Top 5 player in country. He will be a blue blood. Doesn't hurt to offer though. Great player

The upside is Wojo can show him a freshman power forward averaging 16/10 and say "this is how we'll use you." If Henry goes top-10, all the better.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: muhoops1 on February 13, 2016, 09:15:58 AM
Stan Johnson in Detroit to watch 2017 SF Jamal Cain according to Prep Hoops MI

https://youtu.be/q9pLravgqJM

Does Bailey arrive on campus in '17 or '18?  Land a few of these kids and MU is looking bueno.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 13, 2016, 10:03:10 AM
7 of the top 10 recruits in 2015 didn't go to blue bloods. We are in early craptu. Long way from #donedeal but it's not a foregone conclusion that a blue bloods will get him

We can agree to disagree. Top 5 players coached by Kevin Boyle won't be coming to Marquette. If he didn't want to play for the best of the best he would have stayed in Canada instead of playing for Montreverde

And "we are in early" is eliminated since Baylor, Illinois, Oregon, ect all offered couple months ago & will be playing with CIA Bounce for 2 more spring circuits. Kentucky has been to 4 games already of his as a sophmore.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 13, 2016, 10:05:22 AM
The upside is Wojo can show him a freshman power forward averaging 16/10 and say "this is how we'll use you." If Henry goes top-10, all the better.

Your right, that should do it :) I can't fault the optimism though
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 13, 2016, 10:08:16 AM
Kalif Young said he might sign late, in May. Hoping to collect as many offers as possible.

Got to love Wojo recruiting efforts, Bruno wouldn't be a bad backup option at all
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: brewcity77 on February 13, 2016, 10:20:45 AM
Your right, that should do it :) I can't fault the optimism though

Not at all saying we'll get him, nor am I optimistic, but under Buzz, every year we would be one of the first in with all these blue chip prospects only to see them go elsewhere. Not all went to Kentucky or Duke, either.

Buzz never had that All American that he could use as that example. Wojo has an advantage in that regard. When it comes to visits, being able to pull out video and say "this NBA lottery pick could be you if you picked Marquette" certainly won't hurt our chances.

We waited what, about 30 years between All Americans? I'm completely confident it won't take Wojo 30 years to land another.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: GGGG on February 13, 2016, 10:22:23 AM
Does Bailey arrive on campus in '17 or '18?  Land a few of these kids and MU is looking bueno.



'18
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 13, 2016, 10:27:47 AM
Buzz never had that All American that he could use as that example. Wojo has an advantage in that regard. When it comes to visits, being able to pull out video and say "this NBA lottery pick could be you if you picked Marquette" certainly won't hurt our chances.

We waited what, about 30 years between All Americans? I'm completely confident it won't take Wojo 30 years to land another.

I completely agree it won't take another 30 years to land another all American.

Wasn't Frank the NPOY & top 10 pick (#9) at Becky? Not sure any kids care about that at Montreverde.

If anything, having Bruno on the team could help. Not because a guy like Henry played 3 years before him

-- and to clarify we are only talking Simi craptu. Seems like the convo is turning into other top recruits. Which isn't what I was saying at all. I was talking about craptu soley
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 13, 2016, 10:36:31 AM
Looks like Stan saw Bailey last night (40 pts) and is in Nevada now. Hopefully sealing up Markus!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Herman Cain on February 13, 2016, 10:37:21 AM
I think the best thing for Wojo recruiting is to get us into tourney this year. Really enhances his sales pitch and ability to close the deal.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: brewcity77 on February 13, 2016, 10:40:47 AM
Looks like Stan saw Bailey last night (40 pts) and is in Nevada now. Hopefully sealing up Markus!

Bailey was a beast last night. 40 points and 11 rebounds on 11/14 2PFG, 3/6 3PFG, and 9/10 FTs.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 13, 2016, 10:47:06 AM
Looks like Stan saw Bailey last night (40 pts) and is in Nevada now. Hopefully sealing up Markus!

Now this is an update I LOVE!

(Thanks JakeBarnes)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: GGGG on February 13, 2016, 10:49:40 AM
I think the best thing for Wojo recruiting is to get us into tourney this year. Really enhances his sales pitch and ability to close the deal.


While it couldn't hurt, I am not sure how much that matters.  He is selling building the program and how a player will fit into that.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: jsheim on February 13, 2016, 11:16:28 AM
Wow 17 pages in 2 weeks....got to be one of the most active threads around.

Anyway...not having seen all of what's come before in this thread...anyone have any insight into Kostas Antetokounmpo?
Being right here in Milwaukee and playing on the same floor as his brother got any weight (for or against?).

I heard he's looking at St. Johns closely.

I got to believe with his pedigree, DNA, and family...he could be great.  Hasn't he grown 4-5 inches in a short time?
I don't see much on the internet and don't have access to some articles.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 13, 2016, 11:21:12 AM
Wow 17 pages in 2 weeks....got to be one of the most active threads around.

Anyway...not having seen all of what's come before in this thread...anyone have any insight into Kostas Antetokounmpo?
Being right here in Milwaukee and playing on the same floor as his brother got any weight (for or against?).

I heard he's looking at St. Johns closely.

I got to believe with his pedigree, DNA, and family...he could be great.  Hasn't he grown 4-5 inches in a short time?
I don't see much on the internet and don't have access to some articles.

Started in August.

So far more than even 2 months lol
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: wadesworld on February 13, 2016, 11:59:02 AM
Bailey was a beast last night. 40 points and 11 rebounds on 11/14 2PFG, 3/6 3PFG, and 9/10 FTs.

But according to some here he'll have forgotten how to dribble a basketball and be 6'8" 120 by the time he's done with his mission and never make it to Marquette...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: brewcity77 on February 13, 2016, 12:09:57 PM
Wow 17 pages in 2 weeks....got to be one of the most active threads around.

Anyway...not having seen all of what's come before in this thread...anyone have any insight into Kostas Antetokounmpo?
Being right here in Milwaukee and playing on the same floor as his brother got any weight (for or against?).

I heard he's looking at St. Johns closely.

I got to believe with his pedigree, DNA, and family...he could be great.  Hasn't he grown 4-5 inches in a short time?
I don't see much on the internet and don't have access to some articles.

Think there's a very good chance he ends up going prep. Not just for exposure purposes, but to make sure there are no eligibility issues.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: GGGG on February 13, 2016, 12:12:04 PM
Think there's a very good chance he ends up going prep. Not just for exposure purposes, but to make sure there are no eligibility issues.

And I am not sure that Wojo is interested in raw athletic types like Kostas anyway.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: jsglow on February 13, 2016, 12:33:22 PM
Wow 17 pages in 2 weeks....got to be one of the most active threads around.

Anyway...not having seen all of what's come before in this thread...anyone have any insight into Kostas Antetokounmpo?
Being right here in Milwaukee and playing on the same floor as his brother got any weight (for or against?).

I heard he's looking at St. Johns closely.

I got to believe with his pedigree, DNA, and family...he could be great.  Hasn't he grown 4-5 inches in a short time?
I don't see much on the internet and don't have access to some articles.

I started this in mid summer and periodically update both the table and the 'as of' date.   :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 13, 2016, 03:29:35 PM
We can agree to disagree. Top 5 players coached by Kevin Boyle won't be coming to Marquette. If he didn't want to play for the best of the best he would have stayed in Canada instead of playing for Montreverde

Well, since Boyle took over Montverde in 2011, he has only had one top 5 recruit, Ben Simmons, who we are all familiar with. He did not go to a blue blood instead taking his talents to lowly LSU.

Since he has only had one top 5 recruit in his current role, I expanded the criteria to 5 star recruits. At Montverde, has had 3 of those besides Simmons: D'Angelo Russell the #16 player of 2014, Kasey Hill the #8 player of 2013, and Dakari Johnson the #10 player of 2013. 1 of those (Johnson) went to a Blue Blood (Kentucky). The other two went to very good but not blue blood programs in Ohio State (Russell) and Florida (Hill).

If we go back further to when Boyle was the coach of St. Patrick, we will find that he only ever had 3 five star players on his St. Patrick teams. They were Michael Kidd-Gilchrest the #3 player of 2011, Kyrie Irving the #2 player of 2010, and Corey Fischer the #23 player of 2007. The two top five recruits did end up at blue bloods with Kidd-Gilchrist going to Kentucky and Kyrie Irving going to Duke. Fischer ended up at Villanova.

So your premise of being a top 5 recruit (he's top 10 on 247 which I find to be the most accurate) on a Kevin Boyle coached Montverde meaning only a blue blood can get Shiittu is based on 2/3 top 5 picks going to blue bloods, where the 2 both happened at his old job, the 1 is the only one to happen in the past five years, and 3/7 of five star recruits going to blue bloods.

Unless you know something about Kevin Boyle that no one else does, I don't think its fair to say that only blue bloods have a chance at recruiting his top players. Again, I'm not optimistic, have no reason to believe Shiittu will end up here, but just declaring that he is going to a blue blood as if it is a fact is wrong. It might be an educated guess but is certainly not fact.

Oh, and one of those top 5 picks who went to a blue blood. Kyrie Irving? Guess who was the lead recruiter when he was at Duke before leaving to become a head coach? I think Wojo's relationship with Boyle is just fine.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Herman Cain on February 13, 2016, 03:31:49 PM
Well, since Boyle took over Montverde in 2011, he has only had one top 5 recruit, Ben Simmons, who we are all familiar with. He did not go to a blue blood instead taking his talents to lowly LSU.

Since he has only had one top 5 recruit in his current role, I expanded the criteria to 5 star recruits. At Montverde, has had 3 of those besides Simmons: D'Angelo Russell the #16 player of 2014, Kasey Hill the #8 player of 2013, and Dakari Johnson the #10 player of 2013. 1 of those (Johnson) went to a Blue Blood (Kentucky). The other two went to very good but not blue blood programs in Ohio State (Russell) and Florida (Hill).

If we go back further to when Boyle was the coach of St. Patrick, we will find that he only ever had 3 five star players on his St. Patrick teams. They were Michael Kidd-Gilchrest the #3 player of 2011, Kyrie Irving the #2 player of 2010, and Corey Fischer the #23 player of 2007. The two top five recruits did end up at blue bloods with Kidd-Gilchrist going to Kentucky and Kyrie Irving going to Duke. Fischer ended up at Villanova.

So your premise of being a top 5 recruit (he's top 10 on 247 which I find to be the most accurate) on a Kevin Boyle coached Montverde meaning only a blue blood can get Shiittu is based on 2/3 top 5 picks going to blue bloods, where the 2 both happened at his old job, the 1 is the only one to happen in the past five years, and 3/7 of five star recruits going to blue bloods.

Unless you know something about Kevin Boyle that no one else does, I don't think its fair to say that only blue bloods have a chance at recruiting his top players. Again, I'm not optimistic, have no reason to believe Shiittu will end up here, but just declaring that he is going to a blue blood as if it is a fact is wrong. It might be an educated guess but is certainly not fact.

Oh, and one of those top 5 picks who went to a blue blood. Kyrie Irving? Guess who was the lead recruiter when he was at Duke before leaving to become a head coach? I think Wojo's relationship with Boyle is just fine.
Are you going to put out an analysis of top 100 like you did last year?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 13, 2016, 03:35:54 PM
Well, since Boyle took over Montverde in 2011, he has only had one top 5 recruit, Ben Simmons, who we are all familiar with. He did not go to a blue blood instead taking his talents to lowly LSU.

Since he has only had one top 5 recruit in his current role, I expanded the criteria to 5 star recruits. At Montverde, has had 3 of those besides Simmons: D'Angelo Russell the #16 player of 2014, Kasey Hill the #8 player of 2013, and Dakari Johnson the #10 player of 2013. 1 of those (Johnson) went to a Blue Blood (Kentucky). The other two went to very good but not blue blood programs in Ohio State (Russell) and Florida (Hill).

If we go back further to when Boyle was the coach of St. Patrick, we will find that he only ever had 3 five star players on his St. Patrick teams. They were Michael Kidd-Gilchrest the #3 player of 2011, Kyrie Irving the #2 player of 2010, and Corey Fischer the #23 player of 2007. The two top five recruits did end up at blue bloods with Kidd-Gilchrist going to Kentucky and Kyrie Irving going to Duke. Fischer ended up at Villanova.

So your premise of being a top 5 recruit (he's top 10 on 247 which I find to be the most accurate) on a Kevin Boyle coached Montverde meaning only a blue blood can get Shiittu is based on 2/3 top 5 picks going to blue bloods, where the 2 both happened at his old job, the 1 is the only one to happen in the past five years, and 3/7 of five star recruits going to blue bloods.

Unless you know something about Kevin Boyle that no one else does, I don't think its fair to say that only blue bloods have a chance at recruiting his top players. Again, I'm not optimistic, have no reason to believe Shiittu will end up here, but just declaring that he is going to a blue blood as if it is a fact is wrong. It might be an educated guess but is certainly not fact.

Oh, and one of those top 5 picks who went to a blue blood. Kyrie Irving? Guess who was the lead recruiter when he was at Duke before leaving to become a head coach? I think Wojo's relationship with Boyle is just fine.

-- also, he's #4 on 247. Your looking at Natl Comp where he is #9

I'm not sure why your so passionate about MU getting Simi. I'm just saying Simi won't be coming here. We can agree to disagree. Other top players will definitely chose MU
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 13, 2016, 03:58:57 PM
Holy crap you have nothing better to do then argue about whether or not Simi craptu will come to Marquette? Let's lay down a wager. I'll bet you anything he won't

I'm not arguing whether or not he will come to Marquette. Odds are he won't. Most recruits don't end up at Marquette. I was arguing your statement that Kevin Boyle recruits only go to blue bloods. I hadn't heard that before so I decided to see if it was true. Seems it wasn't.

And sadly yes, I don't have anything better to do right now. In a hotel in Venice at the moment. Fiance is already asleep, TV is all in Italian, wifi is too slow for netflix and I've already responded to all my email for work.

-- also, he's #4 on 247. Your looking at Natl Comp where he is #9

-- your the one who said Wojo "got in early with Simi". When other power conference schools have offered months ago.

You are right, I should have clarified. I find 247's national composite to be the most accurate.

We did get in early with Simi. It'll be two years and change before he graduates. Just because other schools got in earlier doesn't change that. What I really meant by that though is that the blue bloods haven't offered yet, they are just watching. Sometimes that can make a difference to a player. Other times not. Will it this time? I have no idea.

I'm not sure why your so passionate about MU getting Simi. I'm just saying Simi won't be coming here. We can agree to disagree. Other top players will definitely chose MU

I'm not passionate about him coming here. I don't think he will. I just get annoyed when people state things as facts when they are opinions. You'll see similar posts from me directed towards all the "Henry is definitely gone posters."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 13, 2016, 04:05:26 PM
Are you going to put out an analysis of top 100 like you did last year?

I'd like to, but don't know if I will. I got a new job. Love it, but it keeps me a lot busier. That and wedding planning is surprisingly overwhelming. If I find the time, I'll do it again.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: real chili 83 on February 13, 2016, 04:10:13 PM
I'm not arguing whether or not he will come to Marquette. Odds are he won't. Most recruits don't end up at Marquette. I was arguing your statement that Kevin Boyle recruits only go to blue bloods. I hadn't heard that before so I decided to see if it was true. Seems it wasn't.

And sadly yes, I don't have anything better to do right now. In a hotel in Venice at the moment. Fiance is already asleep, TV is all in Italian, wifi is too slow for netflix and I've already responded to all my email for work.

Order a Dominos.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU82 on February 13, 2016, 04:11:46 PM
I just get annoyed when people state things as facts when they are opinions.

There's a lot of that here, and it's far more contagious than Zika.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 13, 2016, 04:21:21 PM
Order a Dominos.

I LOLed.

If I order Dominos while vacationing in Italy, the birthplace of pizza, I'm pretty sure my Italian fiance would just end it right there. Might as well order pay per view porn with her in the room....actually, I think the fallout from Dominos might actually be worse.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 13, 2016, 04:30:43 PM
Do da broads shave their pits in Italy, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: real chili 83 on February 13, 2016, 04:46:23 PM
I LOLed.

If I order Dominos while vacationing in Italy, the birthplace of pizza, I'm pretty sure my Italian fiance would just end it right there. Might as well order pay per view porn with her in the room....actually, I think the fallout from Dominos might actually be worse.

Enjoy your vacation and safe travels.  Tell the Pope I said hi.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Herman Cain on February 13, 2016, 04:51:28 PM
I'd like to, but don't know if I will. I got a new job. Love it, but it keeps me a lot busier. That and wedding planning is surprisingly overwhelming. If I find the time, I'll do it again.
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Sounds like you have a lot on the plate. The wedding planning is a big deal, looking forward to the 2018 version lol
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MUEng92 on February 13, 2016, 04:58:54 PM
I started this in mid summer and periodically update both the table and the 'as of' date.   :)
I wish every thread on here would have its title updated regularly. But more for the hijacked ones so I don't have to waste my time clicking on them when the title no longer reflects what it is about.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 13, 2016, 05:30:59 PM
247 hinted SMU could be close to offering Bruno the other week & Larry Brown is watching him right now
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: 4everCrean on February 13, 2016, 09:14:40 PM
The upside is Wojo can show him a freshman power forward averaging 16/10 and say "this is how we'll use you." If Henry goes top-10, all the better.

Didn't use just make a critique on how badly Wojo was misusing Ellenson this year?  Why would that be a selling point? 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: 4everCrean on February 13, 2016, 09:21:06 PM


And sadly yes, I don't have anything better to do right now. In a hotel in Venice at the moment. Fiance is already asleep, TV is all in Italian, wifi is too slow for netflix and I've already responded to all my email for work.


Are you there for carnival?  If so, consider me very envious.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: brewcity77 on February 13, 2016, 10:15:17 PM
Didn't use just make a critique on how badly Wojo was misusing Ellenson this year?  Why would that be a selling point?

Because he is still putting up numbers and will be drafted in the top-10.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: tower912 on February 14, 2016, 07:19:16 AM
Is Xavier Tillman still on MU's radar (2017 PF)?    Saw him Friday night.   Big.   6'9, 250.    Gets the ball in the post/at the elbow and his first look is to hit a teammate with a skip baseball pass.   His skill set has not yet caught up to his size, but he is only a junior.    Not as good around the basket on non-dunks as one would hope.   Either he was having a bad night shooting or his touch isn't there yet.    Moves well, very athletic.   Would take him at MU in a heartbeat. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 14, 2016, 09:18:37 AM
Is Xavier Tillman still on MU's radar (2017 PF)?    Saw him Friday night.   Big.   6'9, 250.    Gets the ball in the post/at the elbow and his first look is to hit a teammate with a skip baseball pass.   His skill set has not yet caught up to his size, but he is only a junior.    Not as good around the basket on non-dunks as one would hope.   Either he was having a bad night shooting or his touch isn't there yet.    Moves well, very athletic.   Would take him at MU in a heartbeat.

Sounds like MSU & Kentucky are his favorites, both have offered. This is just based off 247 & a couple articles i read.

I agree, would take him in a heart beat
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 14, 2016, 08:19:54 PM
Do da broads shave their pits in Italy, hey?

that's good!  how the hell are ya supposed to tell the difference between the men and the women otherwise??
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: moomoo on February 15, 2016, 04:41:53 AM
that's good!  how the hell are ya supposed to tell the difference between the men and the women otherwise??

Take it easy, gentlemen.

Grazie.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU_Iceman on February 15, 2016, 02:35:06 PM
Okay, so for those of us who don't have the time (or patience) to read through 17 pages, does anyone have a quick rundown of recruits that we're actively in on right now (HS and/or JUCO)?  I tried playing around on ESPN's recruiting site but we all know how unreliable they are...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: KampusFoods on February 15, 2016, 02:47:55 PM
Markus Howard - 4-star PG - We want him bad. Many are pegging us as the front-runner. Deciding in April

Kalif Young - PF from Canada - not ranked but getting lots of high major interest. Could really use him when Henry leaves. Waiting until April/May to decide

Bruno Fernando - Top 100 PF from Montverde Academy - Deciding soon. FSU considered the front runner and MU is a little late to the party

Jordan Bowden - Combo guard from TN - not highly ranked. Our recruitment of him and other guards has caused some to speculate that someone other than Henry is leaving.

Darius Hicks - PF on the same team as Bowden - a 3-star on ESPN but getting a lot of looks from high majors. Notice the PF trend. Henry likely gone and staff knows it.

These are mainly the most recent names to have come up. I'm sure there are others.


Dream world: we get Howard and Fernando
My opinion: we only get Howard
Wouldn't be surprised if: we get none

These are all for 2016 (Howard likely to reclassify). There are others for 2017 and beyond I'm sure
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 15, 2016, 03:00:22 PM
Markus Howard - 4-star PG - We want him bad. Many are pegging us as the front-runner. Deciding in April

Kalif Young - PF from Canada - not ranked but getting lots of high major interest. Could really use him when Henry leaves. Waiting until April/May to decide

Bruno Fernando - Top 100 PF from Montverde Academy - Deciding soon. FSU considered the front runner and MU is a little late to the party

Jordan Bowden - Combo guard from TN - not highly ranked. Our recruitment of him and other guards has caused some to speculate that someone other than Henry is leaving.

Darius Hicks - PF on the same team as Bowden - a 3-star on ESPN but getting a lot of looks from high majors. Notice the PF trend. Henry likely gone and staff knows it.

These are mainly the most recent names to have come up. I'm sure there are others.


Dream world: we get Howard and Fernando
My opinion: we only get Howard
Wouldn't be surprised if: we get none

These are all for 2016 (Howard likely to reclassify). There are others for 2017 and beyond I'm sure

Wojo was watching Eron Gordon the other day, 2016 combo guard
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MerrittsMustache on February 15, 2016, 03:40:19 PM
Notice the PF trend. Henry likely gone and staff knows it.

Even if Henry stays for another year, there's still a void in bigs on the roster. Does anyone want to see junior-year Heldt and a couple frosh manning the post in '17-18?

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: We R Final Four on February 15, 2016, 03:57:24 PM
I believe junior MH will be much better than Frosh MH. The thought of Junior MH manning the post doesn't scare me. Depends on who we get as freshmen and transfers as well.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 15, 2016, 03:59:47 PM
I believe junior MH will be much better than Frosh MH. The thought of Junior MH manning the post doesn't scare me. Depends on who we get as freshmen and transfers as well.

Was so confused reading that thinking you were talking about Markus Howard :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: UticaBusBarn on February 15, 2016, 04:16:24 PM

The predominance of posts seem to focus on getting/replacing "bigs."

It strikes this fan that the real need is guards - as in, lots of them. MU can have all the Henry and Fischer types in the world, but without talented guards the Warriors will remain at the bottom of the Big East.

An example of the importance of good guard play can be seen from Villanova, or more recently, Creighton.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: wadesworld on February 15, 2016, 04:22:28 PM
The predominance of posts seem to focus on getting/replacing "bigs."

It strikes this fan that the real need is guards - as in, lots of them. MU can have all the Henry and Fischer types in the world, but without talented guards the Warriors will remain at the bottom of the Big East.

An example of the importance of good guard play can be seen from Villanova, or more recently, Creighton.

Carter, Cheatham, Rowsey, and JJJ can do that for us.  Hopefully we also land Howard.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Herman Cain on February 15, 2016, 04:37:28 PM

While it couldn't hurt, I am not sure how much that matters.  He is selling building the program and how a player will fit into that.
I think it helps on the margin. Makes it one less leap of faith for a recruit and family to make.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU82 on February 15, 2016, 05:50:02 PM
Kalif Young - PF from Canada - not ranked but getting lots of high major interest. Could really use him when Henry leaves. Waiting until April/May to decide

Unranked? Horrors! We don't want him then.

Gotta be ranked. Ranked players always turn out to be studs!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: jsglow on February 15, 2016, 06:59:50 PM
Okay, so for those of us who don't have the time (or patience) to read through 17 pages, does anyone have a quick rundown of recruits that we're actively in on right now (HS and/or JUCO)?  I tried playing around on ESPN's recruiting site but we all know how unreliable they are...

FYI Ice.  I regularly update the very first post.  Go back to p.1 and the chart is basically current.   :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 16, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
Markus Howard update:

http://ny2lasports.com/article_one.aspx?articleid=3364#sthash.6TPUbHBw.uxfs&st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/FOUQFm2wqR
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU82 on February 16, 2016, 10:27:51 AM
Markus Howard update:

http://ny2lasports.com/article_one.aspx?articleid=3364#sthash.6TPUbHBw.uxfs&st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/FOUQFm2wqR

"I love that they pack that Bradley Center in Wisconsin, they have a lot of fans they’re really excited."

Interesting.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Litehouse on February 16, 2016, 10:29:41 AM
Markus Howard update:

http://ny2lasports.com/article_one.aspx?articleid=3364#sthash.6TPUbHBw.uxfs&st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/FOUQFm2wqR
Tradition of point guards at Baylor???  Granted I don't follow them that closely, but I've never considered them to be known for PGs.  I've always associated them with long 6-9 guys that can run the floor.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 16, 2016, 10:33:47 AM
What's da seatin' capacity of da BC again, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 16, 2016, 11:53:29 AM
Even if Henry stays for another year, there's still a void in bigs on the roster. Does anyone want to see junior-year Heldt and a couple frosh manning the post in '17-18?

My exact thought.

Henry is gone. But this isn't really the indicator. We need PFs regardless of what Hank decides wth his life
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: bilsu on February 16, 2016, 12:28:26 PM
What's da seatin' capacity of da BC again, hey?
While our attendance is down, we still draw pretty well compared to most basketball programs.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Herman Cain on February 16, 2016, 01:25:19 PM
While our attendance is down, we still draw pretty well compared to most basketball programs.
I guarantee when a recruit goes to one of our games it is a very impressive experience. NBA arena with College Hoo Ha.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: onepostdavis on February 16, 2016, 01:27:08 PM
How no one else has brought up that Markus Howard looks just like Bruno Mars is beyond me.  Big Bruno fan, and an even bigger Markus fan.  I definitely like our odds here, and Indiana getting scratched is a pretty big deal IMO, as they were my #1 worry (shoe-in Yogi replacement).  Stan Johnson has been paying some serious dividends thus far.  On the Ellenson side of things, I was told from my managing buddy the expectation within is he's gone and Wojo is 100% supportive of him bouncing, hence our PF searching.  All that said, the door is still open and he may want to make a run next year.

In other words, I know just as much as you guys and that's not very much.  From Day 1, in my opinion, he has had the ability to leave for the NBA whenever he wanted, that was never the issue - whether or not we feel he's "NBA ready" he would be taken in a heartbeat very early on because of his potential.  The fact he's averaged a double-double while showing flashes of great outside shooting (Butler) and guard-like ball handling is all they need to see.  It's always been when HE wants to leave.  And in that regard it's kinda pointless to sit here and debate on whether he will go or not because I'm sure even he isn't totally sure what he's gonna do.  I've always been under the optimistic impression he would be here for 2: Wally, great relationship with Wojo, close-knit young team who will only be that much more dangerous next season.  But I also didn't expect him to average 16 and 10 while winning BE Freshman of the Week like 7 times.  My current guess is he's gone but I am holding out hope, because I was told he's conscious of making the tourney and doing something special here.  He's an incredible talent and let's hope we can win a few more big games while we've got him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 16, 2016, 01:41:31 PM
How no one else has brought up that Markus Howard looks just like Bruno Mars is beyond me.  Big Bruno fan, and an even bigger Markus fan.  I definitely like our odds here, and Indiana getting scratched is a pretty big deal IMO, as they were my #1 worry (shoe-in Yogi replacement).  Stan Johnson has been paying some serious dividends thus far.  On the Ellenson side of things, I was told from my managing buddy the expectation within is he's gone and Wojo is 100% supportive of him bouncing, hence our PF searching.  All that said, the door is still open and he may want to make a run next year.

In other words, I know just as much as you guys and that's not very much.  From Day 1, in my opinion, he has had the ability to leave for the NBA whenever he wanted, that was never the issue - whether or not we feel he's "NBA ready" he would be taken in a heartbeat very early on because of his potential.  The fact he's averaged a double-double while showing flashes of great outside shooting (Butler) and guard-like ball handling is all they need to see.  It's always been when HE wants to leave.  And in that regard it's kinda pointless to sit here and debate on whether he will go or not because I'm sure even he isn't totally sure what he's gonna do.  I've always been under the optimistic impression he would be here for 2: Wally, great relationship with Wojo, close-knit young team who will only be that much more dangerous next season.  But I also didn't expect him to average 16 and 10 while winning BE Freshman of the Week like 7 times.  My current guess is he's gone but I am holding out hope, because I was told he's conscious of making the tourney and doing something special here.  He's an incredible talent and let's hope we can win a few more big games while we've got him.

Great post. Thanks onepost
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 16, 2016, 02:03:21 PM
How no one else has brought up that Markus Howard looks just like Bruno Mars is beyond me.  Big Bruno fan, and an even bigger Markus fan.  I definitely like our odds here, and Indiana getting scratched is a pretty big deal IMO, as they were my #1 worry (shoe-in Yogi replacement).  Stan Johnson has been paying some serious dividends thus far.  On the Ellenson side of things, I was told from my managing buddy the expectation within is he's gone and Wojo is 100% supportive of him bouncing, hence our PF searching.  All that said, the door is still open and he may want to make a run next year.

In other words, I know just as much as you guys and that's not very much.  From Day 1, in my opinion, he has had the ability to leave for the NBA whenever he wanted, that was never the issue - whether or not we feel he's "NBA ready" he would be taken in a heartbeat very early on because of his potential.  The fact he's averaged a double-double while showing flashes of great outside shooting (Butler) and guard-like ball handling is all they need to see.  It's always been when HE wants to leave.  And in that regard it's kinda pointless to sit here and debate on whether he will go or not because I'm sure even he isn't totally sure what he's gonna do.  I've always been under the optimistic impression he would be here for 2: Wally, great relationship with Wojo, close-knit young team who will only be that much more dangerous next season.  But I also didn't expect him to average 16 and 10 while winning BE Freshman of the Week like 7 times.  My current guess is he's gone but I am holding out hope, because I was told he's conscious of making the tourney and doing something special here.  He's an incredible talent and let's hope we can win a few more big games while we've got him.
Great post.  I believe this is the only chance he stays.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Litehouse on February 16, 2016, 02:09:56 PM
While our attendance is down, we still draw pretty well compared to most basketball programs.
Yep, and he'll see a packed BC when he comes in for the Villanova game.

2014 Avg. Attendance
Marquette - 15,327
Baylor - 6,806
Arizona St. - 6,687
Central Ark. - 955
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: KampusFoods on February 16, 2016, 02:21:10 PM
Yep, and he'll see a packed BC when he comes in for the Villanova game.

2014 Avg. Attendance
Marquette - 15,327
Baylor - 6,806
Arizona St. - 6,687
Central Ark. - 955

Is he officially coming on 2/27? Another article said 2/20 but we're @ Depaul.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: JWags85 on February 16, 2016, 02:45:11 PM
Yep, and he'll see a packed BC when he comes in for the Villanova game.

2014 Avg. Attendance
Marquette - 15,327
Baylor - 6,806
Arizona St. - 6,687
Central Ark. - 955

Yeesh.  I get the brother influence but that would be one of the largest recruiting coups of all time.  A school that has barely been D-1 for 10 years, averages under 1000 in attendance, and has won 8 games in the last 2 years (Season to date) while playing in a bad conference.  If we lose out to CAU, I wouldn't even be mad, blood is thicker than water in that case.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Litehouse on February 16, 2016, 04:39:41 PM
Is he officially coming on 2/27? Another article said 2/20 but we're @ Depaul.
This one says the weekend of Feb. 26-28.
http://www.sports360az.com/2016/01/markus-howard-sets-official-visits-possible-reclassification/

247 says Feb. 27th here...
http://247sports.com/Player/Markus-Howard-72560/TimelineEvents
but then says Feb. 20th here...
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Four-upcoming-visits-for-Markus-Howard-42890391
so who knows?

FWIW, it looks like he has a game on the 26th.
http://www.findlayprep.com.prod.sportngin.com/piltosschedule?_ga=1.102529153.16766518.1455661954
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MuMark on February 16, 2016, 09:00:52 PM

PoP –  ‏@PremierBall

Marquette HC Steve Wojo watching Brendan Bailey; American Fork HS. (UT) tonight. Bailey recently coming off a 40 point game shooting 14-20fg
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: GGGG on February 16, 2016, 09:50:30 PM
PoP –  ‏@PremierBall

Marquette HC Steve Wojo watching Brendan Bailey; American Fork HS. (UT) tonight. Bailey recently coming off a 40 point game shooting 14-20fg

After Stan watched him this past weekend. Makes you wonder if they are trying to get him to change his mind regarding his mission.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU82 on February 16, 2016, 09:53:11 PM
After Stan watched him this past weekend. Makes you wonder if they are trying to get him to change his mind regarding his mission.

Just like Jake & Elwood, he's on a mission from God.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 16, 2016, 09:56:57 PM
Baylor has lower level empty seats everywhere in a big game vs IsU lol.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 16, 2016, 10:14:08 PM
Baylor has lower level empty seats everywhere in a big game vs IsU lol.

And unfortunately will be dancing in March.

Caught the ending / overtime. Good energy at the very end atleast. Big win over #13 ISU for them without Rico Gathers
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 16, 2016, 10:17:02 PM
And unfortunately will be dancing in March.

Caught the ending / overtime. Good energy at the very end atleast. Big win over #13 ISU for them without Rico Gathers

Isu has to be one of the most disappointing teams this year. Return almost everyone and still losing a lot of games in such a bad year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 16, 2016, 10:18:58 PM
Isu has to be one of the most disappointing teams this year. Return almost everyone and still losing a lot of games in such a bad year.

Agreed. Very undisciplined. 0 bench points tonight (with McKay coming off bench)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: ronald dragon on February 16, 2016, 10:25:33 PM
Isu has to be one of the most disappointing teams this year. Return almost everyone and still losing a lot of games in such a bad year.
I feel like they have always struggled when they're not at home.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: CubillanSandwich on February 16, 2016, 10:38:19 PM
http://m.jsonline.com/sports/preps/kostas-antetokounmpo-making-a-name-for-himself-at-dominican-b99670083z1-368913091.html

JS article on Kostas.  Nothing new. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: GGGG on February 17, 2016, 07:37:40 AM
And unfortunately will be dancing in March.

Caught the ending / overtime. Good energy at the very end atleast. Big win over #13 ISU for them without Rico Gathers


I watched that whole game.  Deonte really likes to shoot.  It's like he has no concept of what's going on around him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorInNYC on February 17, 2016, 08:46:41 AM
Agreed. Very undisciplined. 0 bench points tonight (with McKay coming off bench)
Looking at the box score, do they not have any depth?  Minute distribution for the overtime game:

Niang - 42
Nader - 42
Morris - 45
Thomas - 44
Burton - 27
McKay - 20
Cooke - 0 (assuming here he subbed in and then back out really quickly)
Ashton - 5

There isn't a whole lot of resting going on there.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 17, 2016, 09:15:16 AM
Looking at the box score, do they not have any depth?  Minute distribution for the overtime game:

Niang - 42
Nader - 42
Morris - 45
Thomas - 44
Burton - 27
McKay - 20
Cooke - 0 (assuming here he subbed in and then back out really quickly)
Ashton - 5

There isn't a whole lot of resting going on there.

Rosthein touched on this after the game also, saying Prohm is running his guys into the ground. Crazy how much the starters play. & yes that Cooke kid came in at the end when it was over & jacked up a missed 3
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU82 on February 17, 2016, 09:38:22 AM

Deonte really likes to shoot.  It's like he has no concept of what's going on around him.

This just in - ha!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: GOO on February 17, 2016, 09:58:30 AM
Burton had the worst tunnel vision when he had the ball I've ever seen.  I have not seen him play since MU, but at MU I mean that literally and not exaggerated. 

I was hoping that he would improve, but it sounds like he has not from these posts.  At MU when he had the ball he only saw the rim.  Wojo tried to help him on this by benching him, appropriately, to get him to buy into the idea that he wasn't the only guy on the court on offense... and oy ya, you actually have to try to play defense...

Burton seemed unable to adopt his game to a team concept and resisted Wojo's attempts.  And I mean unable... it was either I have the ball and it's going towards the rim.. or towards the end of his short stay, I will make no effort on offense and pass the ball to a teammate who comes towards me to get it... no in-between; no ability to feel the game and work himself into a team effort...

There is still plenty of time for him, he has the physical tools, no doubt.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: GGGG on February 17, 2016, 10:15:26 AM
The last minute of regulation was a great example of both what gets you excited and frustrates people about Deonte.  He got the ball on the wing with about 20 seconds to go, and tried a turn around jumper that was blocked.  I mean, he went up immediately with no sense of what was going on around him.  He got the ball back off the block, but threw it out of bounds.

On the next possession, Baylor ran a nice play to get the ball inside for a seemingly wide open layup.  But Burton came from the opposite side of the rim and made an incredible block.

He's always going to be a guy that you WANT to believe in, but if you invest too much in him, is just going to do something boneheaded.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU82 on February 17, 2016, 11:26:05 AM
The last minute of regulation was a great example of both what gets you excited and frustrates people about Deonte.  He got the ball on the wing with about 20 seconds to go, and tried a turn around jumper that was blocked.  I mean, he went up immediately with no sense of what was going on around him.  He got the ball back off the block, but threw it out of bounds.

On the next possession, Baylor ran a nice play to get the ball inside for a seemingly wide open layup.  But Burton came from the opposite side of the rim and made an incredible block.

He's always going to be a guy that you WANT to believe in, but if you invest too much in him, is just going to do something boneheaded.

I like this description.

He's this era's Artie Green. If he improves, he could maybe become this era's Oliver Lee.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 17, 2016, 11:37:30 AM
Burton for the year came in shooting close to 55% before the game last night . And making some 3s.

His issue has more so been he fouls literally everytime you truly attack right at him and he sucks at the line.

Isu has no depth. Cooke hasn't played since he got his 1 game suspension. Obviously Prohm gave in to McKay after 1 loss. But Cooke still punished.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU_Iceman on February 17, 2016, 02:30:15 PM
Markus Howard - 4-star PG - We want him bad. Many are pegging us as the front-runner. Deciding in April

Kalif Young - PF from Canada - not ranked but getting lots of high major interest. Could really use him when Henry leaves. Waiting until April/May to decide

Bruno Fernando - Top 100 PF from Montverde Academy - Deciding soon. FSU considered the front runner and MU is a little late to the party

Jordan Bowden - Combo guard from TN - not highly ranked. Our recruitment of him and other guards has caused some to speculate that someone other than Henry is leaving.

Darius Hicks - PF on the same team as Bowden - a 3-star on ESPN but getting a lot of looks from high majors. Notice the PF trend. Henry likely gone and staff knows it.

These are mainly the most recent names to have come up. I'm sure there are others.


Dream world: we get Howard and Fernando
My opinion: we only get Howard
Wouldn't be surprised if: we get none

These are all for 2016 (Howard likely to reclassify). There are others for 2017 and beyond I'm sure

Took me a while to get back on here but thanks for the rundown...fingers crossed, I guess!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU_Iceman on February 17, 2016, 02:32:28 PM
FYI Ice.  I regularly update the very first post.  Go back to p.1 and the chart is basically current.   :)

GOOD TO KNOW!!! 

#crawlsbackintohole
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on February 17, 2016, 04:09:44 PM
What about recruiting???
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 17, 2016, 04:26:19 PM
Markus Howard - 4-star PG - We want him bad. Many are pegging us as the front-runner. Deciding in April

Kalif Young - PF from Canada - not ranked but getting lots of high major interest. Could really use him when Henry leaves. Waiting until April/May to decide

Bruno Fernando - Top 100 PF from Montverde Academy - Deciding soon. FSU considered the front runner and MU is a little late to the party

Jordan Bowden - Combo guard from TN - not highly ranked. Our recruitment of him and other guards has caused some to speculate that someone other than Henry is leaving.

Darius Hicks - PF on the same team as Bowden - a 3-star on ESPN but getting a lot of looks from high majors. Notice the PF trend. Henry likely gone and staff knows it.

These are mainly the most recent names to have come up. I'm sure there are others.


Dream world: we get Howard and Fernando
My opinion: we only get Howard
Wouldn't be surprised if: we get none

These are all for 2016 (Howard likely to reclassify). There are others for 2017 and beyond I'm sure

I like that Howard seems genuinely excited about Marquette. The other mentions of schools seem like things you can say about any place. His lines about Wojo and Marquette feel like they have him engaged and leaning.

I'd love to see Fernando or Young in addition to MH. MH and one of those would really keep the offense dynamic. Add in Rowsey and a team that is a year older... could be a fun season.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: martyconlonontherun on February 17, 2016, 04:57:04 PM
http://m.jsonline.com/sports/preps/kostas-antetokounmpo-making-a-name-for-himself-at-dominican-b99670083z1-368913091.html

JS article on Kostas.  Nothing new.

Solid line against a decent-sized public school. "On Saturday in a 75-62 victory over Racine Case, he made 12 of 14 shots and scored a career-high 26 points while grabbing 11 rebounds and dishing out six assists. The assist total equaled the season-high he set Tuesday against Martin Luther, and his double-digit effort on the glass was two off the season-high he set four days earlier."

Wish we had a schollie to burn. I have a feeling he will be a glue guy on offense and a monster defender as a junior and senior. 6'11" guy who can move and most likely fill out like his brother will be a useful player. It is just whether or not you(/Kostas) are ok with him riding the bench for two years to develop some more.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: wadesworld on February 17, 2016, 05:14:58 PM
Solid line against a decent-sized public school. "On Saturday in a 75-62 victory over Racine Case, he made 12 of 14 shots and scored a career-high 26 points while grabbing 11 rebounds and dishing out six assists. The assist total equaled the season-high he set Tuesday against Martin Luther, and his double-digit effort on the glass was two off the season-high he set four days earlier."

Wish we had a schollie to burn. I have a feeling he will be a glue guy on offense and a monster defender as a junior and senior. 6'11" guy who can move and most likely fill out like his brother will be a useful player. It is just whether or not you(/Kostas) are ok with him riding the bench for two years to develop some more.

The biggest point to take away from that is his career high is a number right around what a lot of true high major players average their senior years in high school.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 17, 2016, 06:54:25 PM
Solid line against a decent-sized public school. "On Saturday in a 75-62 victory over Racine Case, he made 12 of 14 shots and scored a career-high 26 points while grabbing 11 rebounds and dishing out six assists. The assist total equaled the season-high he set Tuesday against Martin Luther, and his double-digit effort on the glass was two off the season-high he set four days earlier."

Wish we had a schollie to burn. I have a feeling he will be a glue guy on offense and a monster defender as a junior and senior. 6'11" guy who can move and most likely fill out like his brother will be a useful player. It is just whether or not you(/Kostas) are ok with him riding the bench for two years to develop some more.

thanks for the info-regarding your last sentence-if he were to come here, we better be able to offer him something real special as he may say, i an go to another team and get to use my first two years to develop as opposed to sitting.  then i'll be that "glue guy and monster defender as a junior and senior" 


ok, now everyone can cue in the jokes about the" louisville sluggers" for the "WOW" factor to get him to ride the pines for the first 2 years
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 17, 2016, 07:17:49 PM
Wojo & an assistant are watching Kalif Young & a new name (to me) that allegedly has also been offered...Euguene Omoruyi (6'6, F) 2016.

Interesting


Edit -- MU now has allegedly 5 offers out right now:

Bowden 6'5
Young 6'9
Howard 5'10
Fernando 6'10
Omoruyi 6'6
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 18, 2016, 12:54:12 AM
Wojo & an assistant are watching Kalif Young & a new name (to me) that allegedly has also been offered...Euguene Omoruyi (6'6, F) 2016.

Interesting

Young and Omoruyi are teammates. USC seems to be the only other high major on Omoruyi right now. He's currently 220 and has the kind of frame that you could hang more muscle on. Definitely an interesting offer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Herman Cain on February 18, 2016, 02:17:03 AM
I like this description.

He's this era's Artie Green. If he improves, he could maybe become this era's Oliver Lee.
Oliver Lee and Artie Green were not the most savory characters. So in that regard I don't think Deonte is comparable. Deonte is a good quality earnest kid.

In terms of basketball ability I think your quite accurate.

I think if Al was coaching Green and Lee instead of Hank things may have been different for them.  The 80-81 season was a big disappointment relative to the talent we had on the team that year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: moomoo on February 18, 2016, 08:02:53 AM
Young and Omoruyi are teammates. USC seems to be the only other high major on Omoruyi right now. He's currently 220 and has the kind of frame that you could hang more muscle on. Definitely an interesting offer.

Omoruyi write up from last month. Switchable 3-4 (sorry). I like what I am reading.

http://www.canadianballers.com/news_article/show/601496?referrer_id=1603877

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 18, 2016, 08:14:17 AM
Omoruyi write up from last month. Switchable 3-4 (sorry). I like what I am reading.

http://www.canadianballers.com/news_article/show/601496?referrer_id=1603877

Thanks for posting. Seems like he has a high motor and as in above average defender. Reading the article it sounded like he had a similar style of play to Jimmy Butler in college. Defends well 1-5, high motor, game is mostly inside the arc but his outside shot is still there.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: HoopsterBC on February 18, 2016, 08:40:40 AM
Wojo & an assistant are watching Kalif Young & a new name (to me) that allegedly has also been offered...Euguene Omoruyi (6'6, F) 2016.

Interesting


Edit -- MU now has allegedly 5 offers out right now:

Bowden 6'5
Young 6'9
Howard 5'10
Fernando 6'10
Omoruyi 6'6

Offering is great, is there any interest on these kids besides Howard, coming to visit?   It is obvious even if Henry is back which I doubt, there is playing time and lots
of it for any of these kids?  Curious why MU has visited Bailey like twice in the last few weeks, must be some interest of coming next year I would think, otherwise visiting a signed recruit during recruiting season seems like a waste of time, we would be a nice addition right away.  But he is not a 4 either.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MUfan12 on February 18, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
Curious why MU has visited Bailey like twice in the last few weeks, must be some interest of coming next year I would think, otherwise visiting a signed recruit during recruiting season seems like a waste of time, we would be a nice addition right away.

They've gone to watch Sam a bunch as well. Granted, that's facetime with the fam and Joey, but still.

Omoruyi is interesting to me. Game reminds me a bit of Marial Shayok, who Wojo tried hard to keep after Buzz left.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 18, 2016, 08:48:39 AM
Offering is great, is there any interest on these kids besides Howard, coming to visit?   It is obvious even if Henry is back which I doubt, there is playing time and lots
of it for any of these kids?  Curious why MU has visited Bailey like twice in the last few weeks, must be some interest of coming next year I would think, otherwise visiting a signed recruit during recruiting season seems like a waste of time, we would be a nice addition right away.  But he is not a 4 either.

All coaches visit their signed kids. Builds relationships, strengthens commitments, and helps when you want to recruit another kid off that team in the future
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: HoopsterBC on February 18, 2016, 09:00:59 AM
All coaches visit their signed kids. Builds relationships, strengthens commitments, and helps when you want to recruit another kid off that team in the future

I understand that, building relationships are great, if there is another player on his team that can help that is even better, is there one?  Otherwise, lets face it, the
next 2 recruits are critical for next year.  To small to be a factor in the Big East right now.  We are not Villanova with the guards we have right not, even MU guards
are thin and small.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: GOO on February 18, 2016, 09:10:17 AM
Make no mistake that Wojo wants certain recruits who can help next year and wants to win next year.  However, unlike what we are used to, it was made very clear that he is much more selective in who he recruits and has a longer term vision for building a program and will not sell out to win next year.  Under Wojo the days of pulling multiple players each year at the last minute are gone... the key will be fewer transfers to make his system work.

I know I've said this multiple times, so I won't say it again.  But that is what Wojo has made clear from the beginning... he doesn't at this point reload each year.  Maybe some day he  will have us in a position to pick up a top one and done type recruit each year or so.... having HE go high in he draft sure won't hurt him with future recruits of that caliber.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 18, 2016, 09:26:46 AM
Make no mistake that Wojo wants certain recruits who can help next year and wants to win next year.  However, unlike what we are used to, it was made very clear that he is much more selective in who he recruits and has a longer term vision for building a program and will not sell out to win next year.  Under Wojo the days of pulling multiple players each year at the last minute are gone... the key will be fewer transfers to make his system work.

This all sounds great except I believe the key for Wojo will be winning within the next 2 years - otherwise his strategy will be a paper tiger.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: MU82 on February 18, 2016, 09:39:26 AM
Oliver Lee and Artie Green were not the most savory characters. So in that regard I don't think Deonte is comparable. Deonte is a good quality earnest kid.

In terms of basketball ability I think your quite accurate.

I think if Al was coaching Green and Lee instead of Hank things may have been different for them.  The 80-81 season was a big disappointment relative to the talent we had on the team that year.

I agree about all of this. My Green/Lee comparisons re Burton were strictly basketball related.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 18, 2016, 09:41:50 AM
All coaches visit their signed kids. Builds relationships, strengthens commitments, and helps when you want to recruit another kid off that team in the future

Agree. Doesn't hurt that Nevada is close to Utah. Seems like Stan was making the "see bailey, make a stop in NV" right when the MH cancelling his IUBB visit happened.

I feel like the handwringing right now is a little nuts. Everyone needs to Respect The Process.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 18, 2016, 09:56:48 AM
Lots of action out there for two spots...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: martyconlonontherun on February 18, 2016, 10:02:37 AM
thanks for the info-regarding your last sentence-if he were to come here, we better be able to offer him something real special as he may say, i an go to another team and get to use my first two years to develop as opposed to sitting.  then i'll be that "glue guy and monster defender as a junior and senior" 


ok, now everyone can cue in the jokes about the" louisville sluggers" for the "WOW" factor to get him to ride the pines for the first 2 years

Yeah, I don't think it will work out. But he is a project as a D-1 prospect and not a ton of schools offered. He would probably sit a lot at SJU or ISU his first two years. I know this is cliche, but he is real close to his family and I could see him wanting to stay in the same city as Giannis. The only reason I say this is because the family actually did move to live close to each other and Giannis attends a ton of his games at Dominican as it is. The timing of available scholarships and other teams eventually offering him more will shut down this dream but I could see a scenario where MU would be a good fit for him long-term.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 18, 2016, 10:06:27 AM
Make no mistake that Wojo wants certain recruits who can help next year and wants to win next year.  However, unlike what we are used to, it was made very clear that he is much more selective in who he recruits and has a longer term vision for building a program and will not sell out to win next year.  Under Wojo the days of pulling multiple players each year at the last minute are gone... the key will be fewer transfers to make his system work.

I know I've said this multiple times, so I won't say it again.  But that is what Wojo has made clear from the beginning... he doesn't at this point reload each year.  Maybe some day he  will have us in a position to pick up a top one and done type recruit each year or so.... having HE go high in he draft sure won't hurt him with future recruits of that caliber.

If he won't sell out to win "next year" why would he ever recruit a one and done? Or a grad transfer (also by definition a one and done)? Recruiting a guy you'll only have for one year is the ULTIMATE win now strategy. Two of the three "one and dones" in MU history (Lockett, Carlino and Ellenson) have come in Wojo's first two seasons and he also went hard after two others (Shonn Miller and Damion Lee) and missed. I'm not knocking the "win now" philosophy of the one and done - in fact I applaud it - but please, please stop with this fiction that Wojo is playing for next year or five years from now or ten years from now. Like any coach worth his salt he's playing for now - and if a one year rental is better than some 4 year guy already on his roster he'll go after him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: HoopsterBC on February 18, 2016, 10:11:00 AM
If he won't sell out to win "next year" why would he ever recruit a one and done? Or a grad transfer (also by definition a one and done)? Recruiting a guy you'll only have for one year is the ULTIMATE win now strategy. Two of the three "one and dones" in MU history (Lockett, Carlino and Ellenson) have come in Wojo's first two seasons and he also went hard after two others (Shonn Miller and Damion Lee) and missed. I'm not knocking the "win now" philosophy of the one and done - in fact I applaud it - but please, please stop with this fiction that Wojo is playing for next year or five years from now or ten years from now. Like any coach worth his salt he's playing for now - and if a one year rental is better than some 4 year guy already on his roster he'll go after him.

The right player to take is somebody that can help him win, right now he is working hard to get 2 more kids, but if he is unsuccessful next year will be no different
than this year, good team, tournament team, no.  Your Power forwards are JJJ and Sandy, ouch.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 18, 2016, 10:39:59 AM
Okay, I've again updated the chart guys.  Seems very busy out there.  Here's what I think we know.  We've technically got one available scholly at the moment with every indication that Bailey is heading off on his 2 year mission.  Certainly I'd anticipate that if Marcus Howard reclassified and signed Wojo would take him in the blink of an eye.  That's a pretty easy one even before Hank tells Wojo anything.

Second, it seems clear that Wojo is pursuing a big body to replace Henry if and when he makes his jump to the NBA.  I'd guess the pecking order is Fernando, Young and Hicks.

Third, Bowden and/or Omoruyi.  Wings.  Seems a bit odd so I'll go with 'never stop recruiting'.  I'm not going to speculate about any departures besides Henry.  But I do believe Wojo has a good enough relationship with everyone that fully supportive 'conversations' are possible here in February.  And I remain absolutely convinced (no evidence, mind you) that Henry will do everything he can to support Wojo during this process.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MUfan12 on February 18, 2016, 10:47:25 AM
Second, it seems clear that Wojo is pursuing a big body to replace Henry if and when he makes his jump to the NBA.  I'd guess the pecking order is Fernando, Hicks and Young.

Not sure what the interest level is with Hicks at this point. Fernando and Young seem to be the main PF targets.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 18, 2016, 10:49:47 AM
Frank Haith & Tulsa offered Jordan Bowden
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: GOO on February 18, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
If he won't sell out to win "next year" why would he ever recruit a one and done? Or a grad transfer (also by definition a one and done)? Recruiting a guy you'll only have for one year is the ULTIMATE win now strategy. Two of the three "one and dones" in MU history (Lockett, Carlino and Ellenson) have come in Wojo's first two seasons and he also went hard after two others (Shonn Miller and Damion Lee) and missed. I'm not knocking the "win now" philosophy of the one and done - in fact I applaud it - but please, please stop with this fiction that Wojo is playing for next year or five years from now or ten years from now. Like any coach worth his salt he's playing for now - and if a one year rental is better than some 4 year guy already on his roster he'll go after him.

As I stated, of course he wants to win now. But the players he will look at are much more limited than our prior coach.  It isn't all about scrambling for next year without considering a lot of other factors... the player has to fit into the bigger picture of student athlete, etc.  He will not sacrifice the longer term, student athlete component to win now... that is all.  He will take and wants grad transfers and one and done's if the players fit into his parameters.. but gone are the days of taking a ball player first with no longer term view to how it affect the program/school.  The admin and him are on the same page. E.G.  Is HE going to class this spring?  Would a prior coach have cared if a one and done continued to go to class?

He has 2 years to put his product on the floor, in my opinion and is on track wth his time frame.  Again, the key will be to not have mass transfers to have his plan work.  Bringing in guys who develop as the core, but of course trying to bring in one and done types and grad transfers as needed, but with the above considerations.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 18, 2016, 10:56:33 AM
Perhaps you guys 'in the know' might help.  I've speculated that Howard is the ONLY guy Wojo would take an immediate NLI from and that the other's might be asked to wait a little.  I have no idea if that is true so if somebody could provide some color on the rest, even if only idle speculation, that would be great.  In theory our season could extend well into March for the NIT or even later if Vegas becomes a possibility and I'd be surprised if any departure announcements would be publicly disclosed until the final, final horn sounded.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/1
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 18, 2016, 01:21:00 PM
Yeah, I don't think it will work out. But he is a project as a D-1 prospect and not a ton of schools offered. He would probably sit a lot at SJU or ISU his first two years. I know this is cliche, but he is real close to his family and I could see him wanting to stay in the same city as Giannis. The only reason I say this is because the family actually did move to live close to each other and Giannis attends a ton of his games at Dominican as it is. The timing of available scholarships and other teams eventually offering him more will shut down this dream but I could see a scenario where MU would be a good fit for him long-term.

that(above) being said, do you think jeter/UWM may go after him?  the horizon league gaining respect but would be a drop off in both education and exposure should he develop into a "next level" baller
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MuMark on February 18, 2016, 07:16:27 PM
Perhaps you guys 'in the know' might help.  I've speculated that Howard is the ONLY guy Wojo would take an immediate NLI from and that the other's might be asked to wait a little.  I have no idea if that is true so if somebody could provide some color on the rest, even if only idle speculation, that would be great.  In theory our season could extend well into March for the NIT or even later if Vegas becomes a possibility and I'd be surprised if any departure announcements would be publicly disclosed until the final, final horn sounded.

Nobody can sign an LOI until April.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 18, 2016, 07:45:26 PM
Nobody can sign an LOI until April.

Yep.  I knew that now that you mention it.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 18, 2016, 08:42:08 PM
Kalif Young picked up an SEC offer tonight from Vanderbilt. He has family in the area
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 19, 2016, 09:14:03 AM
Kalif Young picked up an SEC offer tonight from Vanderbilt. He has family in the area

He can have family in Milwaukee if Wojo adopts him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on February 19, 2016, 12:19:10 PM
He can have family in Milwaukee if Wojo adopts him.


Who needs family when you are part of the Marquette community anyway?  Scoop is pretty much your run of the mill family reunion anyway.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: bilsu on February 19, 2016, 12:46:51 PM

Who needs family when you are part of the Marquette community anyway?  Scoop is pretty much your run of the mill family reunion anyway.
You need family when MUscoopers get on you for your play in the last game.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MU82 on February 19, 2016, 05:18:52 PM
You need family when MUscoopers get on you for your play in the last game.

You need family to tell you not to read Scoop at all.

Why subject yourself to the rants of a bunch of anonymous interwebs dopes?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: warriorfred on February 19, 2016, 06:50:42 PM
The Scoop family is on the balance much more understanding and caring than my biological family.

Welcome aboard son.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: bilsu on February 19, 2016, 10:08:34 PM
The Scoop family is on the balance much more understanding and caring than my biological family.

Welcome aboard son.
That is because you have not missed a shot or turned the ball over.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: We R Final Four on February 20, 2016, 07:44:01 AM
That is because you have not missed a shot or turned the ball over.

Ha--that's good. The problem is your family thinks you are a 5 star player and when they found out you weren't living up to these expectations they felt like they got a raw deal and maybe started looking for better future options.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 20, 2016, 03:24:31 PM
Bruno Fernando is visiting Alabama right now. Avery Johnson & company offered Bruno back in the first week of Novemeber
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 21, 2016, 04:28:55 PM
If anyone gets or sees a list of who is visiting for the Nova game, please post. Thanks!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 22, 2016, 07:37:15 PM
Marquette was in to watch Bruno today
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on February 22, 2016, 09:03:39 PM
Corey Evans ‏@coreyevans_10  2h2 hours ago
Marquette was in today for 2016 Montverde big man Bruno Fernando
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 23, 2016, 12:39:11 AM
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Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: Schmidtyfactor on February 23, 2016, 11:51:34 AM
Wonder if MU will stay on Matthew Hurt of Rochester, MN. Been hearing guys rave about him. Obviously very early, but being talked about as a likely top 10 of his class and McD AA. Though there is time for that to change.

http://www.postbulletin.com/sports/localsports/matthew-hurt-already-feeling-the-love/article_4308f2e4-2c52-58ee-857a-f275e4530fb7.html

Guys, I know it's a ways out but let's add it. Class of 2019.

Stan was in town this week and saw 2019 Matthew Hurt of Rochester (MN) John Marshall.

His brother - 2016 Michael Hurt - is a Gopher commit...

6'8" traditional who is a smooth customer and has played up in HS and often in travel ball. Needs to get up past 200 pounds and keep building... but similar to Henry at this age, if he just keeps progressing at a healthy rate over the next few years, LOOK OUT.

Iowa State offered him as an 8th grader and obviously Minnesota is heavily in the picture..

But, I'm pleased that MU is active in his recruitment at this stage.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 10/20
Post by: MU82 on February 23, 2016, 11:54:36 AM
Wonder if MU will stay on Matthew Hurt of Rochester, MN. Been hearing guys rave about him. Obviously very early, but being talked about as a likely top 10 of his class and McD AA. Though there is time for that to change.

http://www.postbulletin.com/sports/localsports/matthew-hurt-already-feeling-the-love/article_4308f2e4-2c52-58ee-857a-f275e4530fb7.html

I hear he might be drafted this June, one pick ahead of Hank!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 23, 2016, 12:18:51 PM
Very interesting comments from Kalif Young head coach Larry Blunt of Orangeville Prep:

"One thing we found out from Blunt is that Young is getting much more interest from colleges than is being reported. “I don’t have the list in front of me, but he probably has thirty offers from programs of all levels,” Blunt said."

“He (Kalif) could actually wait up until a week before fall semester starts,” Blunt closed.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on February 23, 2016, 12:25:29 PM
Very interesting comments from Kalif Young head coach Larry Blunt of Orangeville Prep:

"One thing we found out from Blunt is that Young is getting much more interest from colleges than is being reported. “I don’t have the list in front of me, but he probably has thirty offers from programs of all levels,” Blunt said."

“He (Kalif) could actually wait up until a week before fall semester starts,” Blunt closed.

Why not, see where he can play right away, maybe MU, maybe not.  Secondly, if they sign Bruno he might be out then, first come, first serve but need one of them
or a grad transfer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on February 23, 2016, 12:27:47 PM
Very interesting comments from Kalif Young head coach Larry Blunt of Orangeville Prep:

"One thing we found out from Blunt is that Young is getting much more interest from colleges than is being reported. “I don’t have the list in front of me, but he probably has thirty offers from programs of all levels,” Blunt said."

“He (Kalif) could actually wait up until a week before fall semester starts,” Blunt closed.


Sure.  He could.  But when I have seen similar comments in the past, that rarely comes to pass.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 23, 2016, 12:29:12 PM
My bad for posting folks :) just thought it was interesting. Nothing to see here :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 23, 2016, 12:44:31 PM
Anyone know if Theo John every visited a couple weeks ago like it was reported he would?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: barfolomew on February 23, 2016, 01:11:50 PM
The Scoop family is on the balance much more understanding and caring than my biological family.

You know, I've been looking through warriorfred's post history, and unfortunately, I really think he's regressing from last season's posts.
I was really hoping he'd take the next step this year, but grammar, syntax, and sentence structure have all been trending downwards.

Sometimes posters just don't live up to the hype.
And I know, because I used message boards in high school.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Aircraftcarrier on February 23, 2016, 03:07:55 PM
Theo was here. Not sure how it went. Need to talk to Sacar. Good friends
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 23, 2016, 03:09:59 PM
Theo was here. Not sure how it went. Need to talk to Sacar. Good friends

+1 thank you
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 23, 2016, 04:08:00 PM
Theo was here. Not sure how it went. Need to talk to Sacar. Good friends

Awesome. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 23, 2016, 09:39:17 PM
Wojo "likes" a ton of Bruno's tweets.

Is this common for coaches to do? I'm all for doing whatever you can, just hasn't realized this was a thing coaches did.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MU82 on February 23, 2016, 09:45:34 PM
Wojo "likes" a ton of Bruno's tweets.

Is this common for coaches to do? I'm all for doing whatever you can, just hasn't realized this was a thing coaches did.

Some here (OK, one here) would call it creepy.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 24, 2016, 01:42:43 AM
Wojo "likes" a ton of Bruno's tweets.

Is this common for coaches to do? I'm all for doing whatever you can, just hasn't realized this was a thing coaches did.

It's like saying "I think about you all the time" without the creepy crean subtext
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 24, 2016, 10:14:56 AM
Illinois offered Terrence Lewis this morning (6'5, 2017, Mil Riverside)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: onepostdavis on February 24, 2016, 10:20:21 AM
Wojo "likes" a ton of Bruno's tweets.

Is this common for coaches to do? I'm all for doing whatever you can, just hasn't realized this was a thing coaches did.

Wojo is notorious for liking/favoriting tweets of guys he's recruiting. Honestly, that can kinda give you an idea of who he's after hardest, as weird that may be.  Did it with Sacar Anim, did it big time with Henry, and around this time last year did it with Traci too.  He's had pretty good success with it in the past it appears haha.  Bruno Fernando, Markus Howard, Tyler Herro are the 3 recruits he's "liked" the last couple of months, so I am patheticly pretty encouraged we'll end up with one of Fernando/Howard or both.  I'd be interested to see "analysis" of how many likes Wojo gives a guy's tweets relative to his college choice.  Would be happy to give it a shot when work quiets down.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MuMark on February 24, 2016, 10:27:02 AM
Wojo started following Kalif Young yesterday...and vice versa.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 24, 2016, 11:52:58 AM
Any chance Howard verbals after his MU visit this weekend?  Has he ever stated that he will do all his scheduled visits?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 24, 2016, 12:02:24 PM
Any chance Howard verbals after his MU visit this weekend?  Has he ever stated that he will do all his scheduled visits?

AZ reporter stated after MH cancelled his Indiana visit that he fully intends to take his other 3 scheduled visits (Baylor, Central Ark, & MU).

And is keeping his 5th official visit open for the likes of Stanford, UCONN, and USC who continue to recruit him per Ny2la article
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Herman Cain on February 24, 2016, 12:11:42 PM
AZ reporter stated after MH cancelled his Indiana visit that he fully intends to take his other 3 scheduled visits (Baylor, Central Ark, & MU).

And is keeping his 5th official visit open for the likes of Stanford, UCONN, and USC who continue to recruit him per Ny2la article
USC is real competition. The USC brand is very big in Arizona were he is from.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on February 24, 2016, 12:26:58 PM
USC is real competition. The USC brand is very big in Arizona were he is from.


Has USC pulled recruits in from that part of Arizona before?  I just don't get this statement.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 24, 2016, 12:47:34 PM
Any chance Howard verbals after his MU visit this weekend?  Has he ever stated that he will do all his scheduled visits?

Doubtful, he's been pretty insistent that he will wait until April. I'm still optimistic. I'm becoming more optimistic about Fernando as well. No inside info, it just feels the same as Traci Carter's recruitment last season
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: KampusFoods on February 24, 2016, 12:49:48 PM

Has USC pulled recruits in from that part of Arizona before?  I just don't get this statement.

Not too worried about USC. Seems to me it will come down to MU and Baylor. Don't like that baylor gets the latter of the visits, but Saturday is the ideal game for MH to visit, regardless of outcome.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 24, 2016, 02:43:07 PM
Doubtful, he's been pretty insistent that he will wait until April. I'm still optimistic. I'm becoming more optimistic about Fernando as well. No inside info, it just feels the same as Traci Carter's recruitment last season

If Wojo can pull Howard and either Fernando or Young I'll have to believe it's another Top 10-15 class.  Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 24, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
If Wojo can pull Howard and either Fernando or Young I'll have to believe it's another Top 10-15 class.  Fingers crossed.

That scenario makes me smile. Let's make it happen, Wojo!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on February 24, 2016, 03:46:44 PM
Ditto!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Herman Cain on February 24, 2016, 04:28:44 PM

Has USC pulled recruits in from that part of Arizona before?  I just don't get this statement.
More of a generalization. Lots of people from Southern California have moved to Arizona, and therefore a lot of support for  USC in the area. You see a lot of kids wearing SC baseball caps etc Obviously the USC basketball program has not been great but the overall USC image is well received.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 24, 2016, 04:33:37 PM
USC is real competition. The USC brand is very big in Arizona were he is from.

I'd be surprised. I've heard nothing to suggest usc is in the running. ASU  seems like the main competition at this point. But it definitely seems like MU is in the lead
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Herman Cain on February 24, 2016, 06:35:13 PM
I'd be surprised. I've heard nothing to suggest usc is in the running. ASU  seems like the main competition at this point. But it definitely seems like MU is in the lead
I was more responding to the post that said he was reserving a visit for USC. I agree that our guys are working this order very hard.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: KampusFoods on February 24, 2016, 09:58:01 PM
Matty V says Howard will be in mke starting Friday. Skipping HS game.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 25, 2016, 08:35:06 AM
Matty V says Howard will be in mke starting Friday. Skipping HS game.

Makes sense to me.  Not sure how he could make it happen for a 1p tip traveling to MKE from Vegas on a commercial flight.  Serious question.  Does MU ever send the private jet for a kid?  Would that be allowed by the NCAA?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on February 25, 2016, 09:12:40 AM
As much as I like Howard showing up, it would be nice for a big to show up?  Any chance this weekend?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 25, 2016, 09:19:57 AM
Matty V says Howard will be in mke starting Friday. Skipping HS game.

Cares enough to skip a game - that's pretty good sign.

Bet his teammates are rattled.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on February 25, 2016, 09:21:28 AM
Makes sense to me.  Not sure how he could make it happen for a 1p tip traveling to MKE from Vegas on a commercial flight.  Serious question.  Does MU ever send the private jet for a kid?  Would that be allowed by the NCAA?

No.  "Coach or comparable class."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on February 25, 2016, 10:27:56 AM
Cares enough to skip a game - that's pretty good sign.

Bet his teammates are rattled.

Excited. Let's put on a show!

Really would love Fernando to try and make it too. Not sure where his visit schedule is at.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Windyplayer on February 25, 2016, 10:42:42 AM
No.  "Coach or comparable class."
Room for regulatory interpretation? "Coach's plane."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MuMark on February 25, 2016, 11:03:32 AM
Joey and Sam will also be there per Mark Miller
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 25, 2016, 11:12:56 AM
Joey and Sam will also be there per Mark Miller

You mean, according to you.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 27, 2016, 09:56:37 AM
Bruno Fernando visiting Florida State this weekend
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MuMark on February 27, 2016, 10:18:27 AM
You mean, according to you.

No I'm not Mark Miller
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 28, 2016, 08:42:45 AM
Room for regulatory interpretation? "Coach's plane."

+1  I like the way you think.

And so I understand, when a kid takes an 'official' all his expenses are paid by the school with restrictions as noted by Sultan.  I know the limit is 5.  When a kid takes an 'unofficial'  assuming it's entirely on his dime.  And those are unlimited.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Pakuni on February 28, 2016, 09:39:10 AM
Markus Howard may reclassify as a 2016 recruit.
And his mom has some really positive things to say about MU, Stan Johnson and Wojo.

https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/2017-point-guard-markus-howard-taking-officials-weighing-reclass-to-2016/165608856

Marquette and Coach Steve Wojciechowski will get their shot this weekend as the Howard's travel to Milwaukee for his second official visit. The connection with Wojciechowski started with assistant Stan Johnson during his time at Arizona State under coach Bobby Hurley.

"The assistant coach that was at ASU was Stan Johnson," Said Howard. "Stan is one of the most pivotal people in Markus' life when it comes to recruiting. He was the one who recruited Markus at the end of his 8th grade year, that summer.

"So Stan has been with Markus prior to him entering the ninth grade, so probably three years now," Howard continued. "So for Markus, that is a pretty big deal because of their relationship outside of the whole basketball thing. He's always kept in touch with Markus, him and Coach Wojo. That's a draw for Markus.

"They have a former NBA player on staff in Travis (Diener)," said Noemi Howard. "Coach Wojo was under Coach K. Played at Duke. It's a blue blood program. They have great history there and they really pour a lot into that program. Wojo is very selective in the kids that he chooses. He's just a character coach. He's seen it front and center what happens when you recruit those kind of players."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: BossplayaOtto on February 28, 2016, 10:13:23 AM
Markus Howard may reclassify as a 2016 recruit.
And his mom has some really positive things to say about MU, Stan Johnson and Wojo.

https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/2017-point-guard-markus-howard-taking-officials-weighing-reclass-to-2016/165608856

Marquette and Coach Steve Wojciechowski will get their shot this weekend as the Howard's travel to Milwaukee for his second official visit. The connection with Wojciechowski started with assistant Stan Johnson during his time at Arizona State under coach Bobby Hurley.

"The assistant coach that was at ASU was Stan Johnson," Said Howard. "Stan is one of the most pivotal people in Markus' life when it comes to recruiting. He was the one who recruited Markus at the end of his 8th grade year, that summer.

"So Stan has been with Markus prior to him entering the ninth grade, so probably three years now," Howard continued. "So for Markus, that is a pretty big deal because of their relationship outside of the whole basketball thing. He's always kept in touch with Markus, him and Coach Wojo. That's a draw for Markus.

"They have a former NBA player on staff in Travis (Diener)," said Noemi Howard. "Coach Wojo was under Coach K. Played at Duke. It's a blue blood program. They have great history there and they really pour a lot into that program. Wojo is very selective in the kids that he chooses. He's just a character coach. He's seen it front and center what happens when you recruit those kind of players."


Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on February 28, 2016, 10:15:02 AM
Love the mother's comments.  Sounds like a really good fit.  Would love to see Markus play for Marquette! 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MU82 on February 28, 2016, 10:18:14 AM
"It's a blue blood program."

I love Markus' mom!!!!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: AirPunch on February 28, 2016, 10:20:04 AM
"It's a blue blood program."

I love Markus' mom!!!!

It's hard to tell if she was talking about Duke or MU.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 28, 2016, 10:23:21 AM
Markus Howard may reclassify as a 2016 recruit.
And his mom has some really positive things to say about MU, Stan Johnson and Wojo.

https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/2017-point-guard-markus-howard-taking-officials-weighing-reclass-to-2016/165608856

Marquette and Coach Steve Wojciechowski will get their shot this weekend as the Howard's travel to Milwaukee for his second official visit. The connection with Wojciechowski started with assistant Stan Johnson during his time at Arizona State under coach Bobby Hurley.

"The assistant coach that was at ASU was Stan Johnson," Said Howard. "Stan is one of the most pivotal people in Markus' life when it comes to recruiting. He was the one who recruited Markus at the end of his 8th grade year, that summer.

"So Stan has been with Markus prior to him entering the ninth grade, so probably three years now," Howard continued. "So for Markus, that is a pretty big deal because of their relationship outside of the whole basketball thing. He's always kept in touch with Markus, him and Coach Wojo. That's a draw for Markus.

"They have a former NBA player on staff in Travis (Diener)," said Noemi Howard. "Coach Wojo was under Coach K. Played at Duke. It's a blue blood program. They have great history there and they really pour a lot into that program. Wojo is very selective in the kids that he chooses. He's just a character coach. He's seen it front and center what happens when you recruit those kind of players."




Someone needs to go ahead and update the schollie table now. This is a #donedeal, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on February 28, 2016, 10:31:07 AM
How does Rowseys game compare to Howards game?  Can you really play two small guards at once?  Rowsey is a 4th year junior so he has a great deal of experience
vs. Howard.  Yesterday it was obvious that Cheatham was playing some two since Duane was pathetic.  If they sign Howard, there will be a great deal of competition
at the guard spots.  Can Howard play the point, as much as I think Carter has come on a little he still can not shoot the ball and that is a problem.  It will be a good problem to have, since all those players will be at MU for at least 2 more years.  With the disappearance of Cohen, you might see Cheatham and JJJ up front next year
with Rowsey, Howard and Wilson, in the backcourt.  Sort of like Villy was yesterday.  Hope Sam can come in and at least hit a shot or two.  Cohen is like having Juan
or Derrick, 4 on 5.  Can not win that way.

As much as want Howard to come, a big is still a major issue needed.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Daniel on February 28, 2016, 10:32:03 AM
It's hard to tell if she was talking about Duke or MU.

MU - the whole paragraph is about MU.  I love her too!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: bilsu on February 28, 2016, 10:36:57 AM
He wants to reclassify, if he can play right away. I wonder what his expectation of playing time is. Playing 10 minutes a game, 15 minutes a game, starting, etc. All of MU's guards are returning and Rowsey will be added to that group. Carter actually played pretty well in the second half yesterday. I am not sure how MU fits into his expectation of playing right away. I would not count out Central Arkansas in this one.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 28, 2016, 12:08:58 PM
"It's a blue blood program."

I love Markus' mom!!!!

Ms. Howard, we'd love to welcome your family to Marquette.  Marcus will be expected to excel in the classroom and grow as a person during his time here.  I'll bet that's something you're looking for.  If you need help picking out a winter coat, we can certainly help.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on February 28, 2016, 12:15:36 PM
He wants to reclassify, if he can play right away. I wonder what his expectation of playing time is. Playing 10 minutes a game, 15 minutes a game, starting, etc. All of MU's guards are returning and Rowsey will be added to that group. Carter actually played pretty well in the second half yesterday. I am not sure how MU fits into his expectation of playing right away. I would not count out Central Arkansas in this one.

Howard would be our starting point guard next season and would also play a little bit off of the ball at times.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Jay Bee on February 28, 2016, 12:29:30 PM
re: Howard and Henry...

My mind if I'm Howard..
a) Henry stays, I've got a future NBA big man to play with... I will shine scoring the ball and dishing it.. great situation;
b) Henry leaves.. this team just lost a high-usage scorer.. I am a scorer. This team can use a PG and a scorer... that's me. Ready to help.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 28, 2016, 12:35:52 PM
re: Howard and Henry...

My mind if I'm Howard..
a) Henry stays, I've got a future NBA big man to play with... I will shine scoring the ball and dishing it.. great situation;
b) Henry leaves.. this team just lost a high-usage scorer.. I am a scorer. This team can use a PG and a scorer... that's me. Ready to help.

Makes perfect sense to me.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: bilsu on February 28, 2016, 08:28:28 PM
Howard would be our starting point guard next season and would also play a little bit off of the ball at times.
Keep telling him that and hopefully he will believe it.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on February 28, 2016, 08:43:20 PM
Keep telling him that and hopefully he will believe it.

I think he saw it all he needed to on the court yesterday.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on February 28, 2016, 08:51:26 PM
I think he saw it all he needed to on the court yesterday.


Traci Carter shows flashes, but yeah I think the PG position is far from settled next year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on February 28, 2016, 08:57:14 PM

Traci Carter shows flashes, but yeah I think the PG position is far from settled next year.

Agreed I like Traci a lot but I think shooting from your point guard is important and I don't think Traci has that skill, while I think Howard does. I also hope that Howard would be a little bit more sure of himself? For lack of a better way of putting it. Sometimes Carter doesn't think and just reacts, but sometimes it seems he's unsure of whether to shoot it or pass it or drive it and winds up somewhere in the middle, which is not a good place to be in.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on February 28, 2016, 09:05:50 PM
Traci is unsure what to do.  He can get in the paint but does not have a shot like Cohen or Cheatham, hard to watch 3 players who have no idea how to shot a jump
shot.  I expect big things from Rowsey next year and might need it from Sam as well.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: bilsu on February 28, 2016, 09:08:24 PM
I think he saw it all he needed to on the court yesterday.
He also saw how big and strong Villanova players were.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on February 28, 2016, 09:23:07 PM
Agreed I like Traci a lot but I think shooting from your point guard is important and I don't think Traci has that skill, while I think Howard does. I also hope that Howard would be a little bit more sure of himself? For lack of a better way of putting it. Sometimes Carter doesn't think and just reacts, but sometimes it seems he's unsure of whether to shoot it or pass it or drive it and winds up somewhere in the middle, which is not a good place to be in.

Sooooo... you're saying he's a freshman? Carter is criminally underrated by some here.  He just dished out 10 assists against the #1 team in the country that's stacked with experienced guards. The offense also gets very stagnant when he's on the bench for extended periods of time.

He already has the mentality and passing skill to run a high major offense in my opinion. Those two things are what I look for first in a PG. His shooting mechanics are solid and can improve over time. After an offseason of work and maturation for Carter it would take a very talented and polished PG to come in and take the role from him as a freshman. Perhaps Howard is that guy, but it seems odd to be talking about it like he would obviously come in and start immediately at the 1.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on February 28, 2016, 09:24:09 PM
Traci is unsure what to do.  He can get in the paint but does not have a shot like Cohen or Cheatham, hard to watch 3 players who have no idea how to shot a jump
shot.  I expect big things from Rowsey next year and might need it from Sam as well.

Cheatham doesn't have a shot?  Am I reading that right?  Cheatham is a very good shooter.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on February 28, 2016, 09:29:35 PM
Sooooo... you're saying he's a freshman? Carter is criminally underrated by some here.  He just dished out 10 assists against the #1 team in the country that's stacked with experienced guards. The offense also gets very stagnant when he's on the bench for extended periods of time.

He already has the mentality and passing skill to run a high major offense in my opinion. Those two things are what I look for first in a PG. His shooting mechanics are solid and can improve over time. After an offseason of work and maturation for Carter it would take a very talented and polished PG to come in and take the role from him as a freshman. Perhaps Howard is that guy, but it seems odd to be talking about it like he would obviously come in and start immediately at the 1.

Until he proves he can score on a consistent basis, we will only be an average point guard.  You can look at 50 years of points at MU, and the teams that were winners
had good if not great point guards.   Dean, Walton, Worthen, Rivers, Mandy Johnson, Diener, James, could all score, in college you need a point that can score.  Carter did it for one game, had 5 threes, they won that game.   Yes, he is playing better, but like Derrick last year, they play off him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on February 28, 2016, 09:36:07 PM
Sooooo... you're saying he's a freshman? Carter is criminally underrated by some here.  He just dished out 10 assists against the #1 team in the country that's stacked with experienced guards. The offense also gets very stagnant when he's on the bench for extended periods of time.

He already has the mentality and passing skill to run a high major offense in my opinion. Those two things are what I look for first in a PG. His shooting mechanics are solid and can improve over time. After an offseason of work and maturation for Carter it would take a very talented and polished PG to come in and take the role from him as a freshman. Perhaps Howard is that guy, but it seems odd to be talking about it like he would obviously come in and start immediately at the 1.


"Criminally underrated??"

Please.  He is a freshman that has played well at times and terrible at times.  All I have said is that the position is far from settled.  I can't say for certain that he is the best option.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on February 28, 2016, 09:51:33 PM
Wojo has said consistently that he doesn't believe in a point guard. He wants multiple guards on the floor who can handle the ball. There will be room for everybody.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Windyplayer on February 28, 2016, 09:57:19 PM
Cheatham doesn't have a shot?  Am I reading that right?  Cheatham is a very good shooter pump-faker.
Fixed.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MUfan12 on February 28, 2016, 10:03:17 PM
Fixed.

49/43/80. Yeah, he can't shoot.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on February 28, 2016, 10:46:20 PM
49/43/80. Yeah, he can't shoot.

Let me restate my position on all 3 players.  None of them has a jump shot in the paint, that is none of them.  Cheatham has a nice touch from 3, free throws and lay-ups
but no mid range game, Cohen right now has no game and Carter has shown good form but does not have a mid-range game either.  That is shooting with a man in your
face from 10 feet, the game Butch Lee had or DWade, at MU he could not hit a shot from distance.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MU82 on February 28, 2016, 11:23:52 PM
Let me restate my position on all 3 players.  None of them has a jump shot in the paint, that is none of them.  Cheatham has a nice touch from 3, free throws and lay-ups
but no mid range game

This is a far cry from your earlier claim about Cheatham, an assertion that pretty much stripped you of any credibility.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: bilsu on February 29, 2016, 07:27:47 AM
Maybe Cheatnam has a mid range jump shot that he does not use. He is wired to take it to the basket and passes up too many threes.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 29, 2016, 07:33:25 AM
Let me restate my position on all 3 players.  None of them has a jump shot in the paint, that is none of them.  Cheatham has a nice touch from 3, free throws and lay-ups
but no mid range game, Cohen right now has no game and Carter has shown good form but does not have a mid-range game either.  That is shooting with a man in your
face from 10 feet, the game Butch Lee had or DWade, at MU he could not hit a shot from distance.

Oh, you mean the national POY and an NBA first ballot HOF.   ::)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TSmith34 on February 29, 2016, 08:10:45 AM
Until he proves he can score on a consistent basis, we will only be an average point guard.  You can look at 50 years of points at MU, and the teams that were winners
had good if not great point guards.   Dean, Walton, Worthen, Rivers, Mandy Johnson, Diener, James, could all score, in college you need a point that can score.  Carter did it for one game, had 5 threes, they won that game.   Yes, he is playing better, but like Derrick last year, they play off him.

You somehow failed to include in your list of MU great point guards the guy with 320+ MORE assists than the guy who is #2 all-time in assists at MU and who happened to have the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th most single season assists all time.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 29, 2016, 08:15:00 AM
Okay, to get back on track I'd like you guys that follow this very closely to refresh this.  Hicks still out there?  Should I finally take Kostas off?  Anything else especially for this year?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: onepostdavis on February 29, 2016, 09:28:13 AM
I am finally bullish on Marquette's PG future.  Say what you will, but Traci is a gamer.  Obviously sped up sometimes and makes his fair share of mistakes.  But he's fearless taking the ball to the rack and is able to finish against opposing bigs better than we give him credit for - on Saturday alone he took it right at Ochefu a number of times and was successful.  And more than held his own against some of the best guards in the Big East.  Throw in a nice shot/good form, that at this point is mainly streaky, and I haven't been this optimistic about an MU PG since Dom James.

OR

Howard commits and we immediately have the best PG we've had since Dom James.  The dude is legit.  He'd come in right away and be the starter, IMO.  But as has been stated here time and time again, Wojo doesn't rely on one traditional PG.  Rowsey will handle the ball next year, Traci will handle the ball next year, Haanif still will but not nearly as often, cause he's at his best off-ball.  But Howard would be the closest thing to the guy if he committed, and there is a lot of optimism building from what I've heard.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on February 29, 2016, 09:39:49 AM
A recruit like Howard would proof that Wojo knows how to recruit assistant coaches as this would mean that Stan Johnson was a great hire as Wojo was not on either
Bailey or Howard.  Like to see the other coaches bring in some players as well in the future.  Stan looks like a great hire!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 29, 2016, 10:17:17 AM
A recruit like Howard would proof that Wojo knows how to recruit assistant coaches as this would mean that Stan Johnson was a great hire as Wojo was not on either
Bailey or Howard.  Like to see the other coaches bring in some players as well in the future.  Stan looks like a great hire!

Couldn't agree more and said same to chick over the weekend.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MuWarrior19 on February 29, 2016, 10:29:49 AM
Saw Markus Howard spend all day at the Al yesterday with his family. I'll take that as a good sign
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Pakuni on February 29, 2016, 10:36:10 AM
Solid look, young man.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcVwoRVWEAEiFmF.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Herman Cain on February 29, 2016, 02:51:31 PM
If Howard signs with us, we will be in a decent position point guard wise. Traci will have a year under his belt ,he has decent fundamentals across the board which should improve as he becomes a sophomore.

Rowsey has proven himself over two years scoring 1,000 points at the D1 level and has had a year to practice with the team develop good chemistry and respect .

Howard will be a talented freshman who will have the time to grow without the pressure of being the guy day 1.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: BM1090 on February 29, 2016, 02:55:24 PM
If Howard signs with us, we will be in a decent position point guard wise. Traci will have a year under his belt ,he has decent fundamentals across the board which should improve as he becomes a sophomore.

Rowsey has proven himself over two years scoring 1,000 points at the D1 level and has had a year to practice with the team develop good chemistry and respect .

Howard will be a talented freshman who will have the time to grow without the pressure of being the guy day 1.

I think we'd be in great position. We'd have three capable players that could run the point.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on February 29, 2016, 03:21:12 PM
Remember that Wojo likes all his guards to have multiple skill sets.  So Rowsey could be spotting up at the wing as Traci penetrates and dishes, for example.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Herman Cain on February 29, 2016, 04:36:41 PM
Are there any updates on 6-8 235 Cincinnati Xavier Seton Hall bruiser types. We  really need to be like Michigan State and start stock piling those kind of guys. Especially in the post Ellenson environment.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: bilsu on February 29, 2016, 05:34:51 PM
I think we'd be in great position. We'd have three capable players that could run the point.
Are both Rowsey and Howard combo guards vs. pure point guards?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on February 29, 2016, 05:45:45 PM
Mark Miller
‏@WisBBYearbook
Stevens Point senior Sam Hauser (6-6) is averaging 18.5 ppg and 9.0 rpg despite playing all season with shin splints.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MuMark on February 29, 2016, 05:54:35 PM
Are both Rowsey and Howard combo guards vs. pure point guards?

They are both point guards who can shoot.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 01, 2016, 11:57:57 PM

"Criminally underrated??"

Please.  He is a freshman that has played well at times and terrible at times.  All I have said is that the position is far from settled.  I can't say for certain that he is the best option.

Yo. Respek. Ain't nobody takin' the rock from T. Carter til he grauates.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: bilsu on March 02, 2016, 12:27:50 AM
Yo. Respek. Ain't nobody takin' the rock from T. Carter til he grauates.
I think posters underrate the year of experience Carter has gained this year. An incoming freshmen point guard would have to be really good to beat Carter out.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 02, 2016, 01:02:36 AM
I think posters underrate the year of experience Carter has gained this year. An incoming freshmen point guard would have to be really good to beat Carter out.

Exactly my point.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Strokin 3s on March 02, 2016, 09:39:22 AM
All I could think when I read Mrs. Howard's comments was, "Damn, Wojo/Stan and staff did an excellent job of educating on Marquette."  Good sellers.  When you see comments reiterated from recuirts parents about how much Marquette invests in their program its something that has been driven home.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: The Lens on March 02, 2016, 09:44:22 AM
Are there any updates on 6-8 235 Cincinnati Xavier Seton Hall bruiser types. We  really need to be like Michigan State and start stock piling those kind of guys. Especially in the post Ellenson environment.

But that's 3 years away, correct?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on March 02, 2016, 09:46:23 AM
I think posters underrate the year of experience Carter has gained this year. An incoming freshmen point guard would have to be really good to beat Carter out.


I'm not underrating anything.  I am saying that anointing an inconsistent freshman as our starter no matter what can backfire.  There is nothing wrong with trying to upgrade that position.  It is obvious that MU needs another PG anyway.

BTW, neglect of that position is what got Marquette into trouble the last two years. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: KampusFoods on March 02, 2016, 10:48:06 AM
Back to recruiting stuff

Could be nothing, but FSU - thought to be a leader for 6'9 Bruno Fernando - just got a commitment from a 6-8 PF not named Bruno Fernando.

Hope we can get that guy on campus before he decides.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: We R Final Four on March 02, 2016, 10:53:18 AM

I'm not underrating anything.  I am saying that anointing an inconsistent freshman as our starter no matter what can backfire.  There is nothing wrong with trying to upgrade that position.  It is obvious that MU needs another PG anyway.

BTW, neglect of that position is what got Marquette into trouble the last two years.
+1. TC is certainly improving but also has a long way to go. He is not given anything. If someone else comes in and raises the standard of the position it's good for MU, good for us as fans, and eventually good for TC.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: LAMUfan on March 02, 2016, 10:56:02 AM
Back to recruiting stuff

Could be nothing, but FSU - thought to be a leader for 6'9 Bruno Fernando - just got a commitment from a 6-8 PF not named Bruno Fernando.

Hope we can get that guy on campus before he decides.

Cant hurt our chances
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: We R Final Four on March 02, 2016, 10:58:33 AM
All I could think when I read Mrs. Howard's comments was, "Damn, Wojo/Stan and staff did an excellent job of educating on Marquette."  Good sellers.  When you see comments reiterated from recuirts parents about how much Marquette invests in their program its something that has been driven home.
Can you post or point me in the direction of her comments? I missed that. Thank you.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 02, 2016, 11:02:22 AM
Back to recruiting stuff

Could be nothing, but FSU - thought to be a leader for 6'9 Bruno Fernando - just got a commitment from a 6-8 PF not named Bruno Fernando.

Hope we can get that guy on campus before he decides.

Agreed. You gotta think Wojo is trying to get Fernando and Wyatt in a holding pattern for the time being just so he can gain ground.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 02, 2016, 11:36:41 AM
Back to recruiting stuff

Could be nothing, but FSU - thought to be a leader for 6'9 Bruno Fernando - just got a commitment from a 6-8 PF not named Bruno Fernando.

Hope we can get that guy on campus before he decides.

Interesting.  Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 02, 2016, 11:41:37 AM
Agreed. You gotta think Wojo is trying to get Fernando and Wyatt in a holding pattern for the time being just so he can gain ground.

Wyatt?  Who?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 02, 2016, 11:46:52 AM
Wyatt?  Who?

I mixed up my Kalif's. I meant to say Kalif Young.  :-\
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 02, 2016, 11:48:55 AM
I mixed up my Kalif's. I meant to say Kalif Young.  :-\

Pffew.  Thought I was going to have to update the chart.   ;D
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 02, 2016, 12:19:43 PM
Alex Kline ‏@TheRecruitScoop  7m7 minutes ago
Florida State landed 2016 forward Mfiondu Kabengele of Don Bosco (IN), his coach announced.

Corey Evans ‏@coreyevans_10  24m24 minutes ago
Mfiondu Kabengele took a visit to FSU last month. Face up, play making forward with giant length. Fits Hamiltons playing style on defense
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Henry Sugar on March 02, 2016, 01:12:34 PM

I'm not underrating anything.  I am saying that anointing an inconsistent freshman as our starter no matter what can backfire.  There is nothing wrong with trying to upgrade that position.  It is obvious that MU needs another PG anyway.

BTW, neglect of that position is what got Marquette into trouble the last two years.

Agreed.

Also, I'd just like to point out a few things about Carter:

Strengths: Assists (#38 nationally) and steals (#45 nationally)
Weaknesses: Efficiency (ORtg of 93 - below average), turnovers (TORate of 29%)

I like the guy, but a TORate of 29% for a PG is criminal (in Manitowac).
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Strokin 3s on March 02, 2016, 01:43:43 PM
Can you post or point me in the direction of her comments? I missed that. Thank you.

https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/2017-point-guard-markus-howard-taking-officials-weighing-reclass-to-2016/165608856
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 02, 2016, 02:22:41 PM
Agreed.

Also, I'd just like to point out a few things about Carter:

Strengths: Assists (#38 nationally) and steals (#45 nationally)
Weaknesses: Efficiency (ORtg of 93 - below average), turnovers (TORate of 29%)

I like the guy, but a TORate of 29% for a PG is criminal (in Manitowac).

Maybe but I'd rather have that then the Derrick Wilson school of not creating turnovers, which was don't make a pass longer than 5 feet.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 02, 2016, 05:05:20 PM
Traci is 100% better than Derrick!  Love his game.  He will play more like a leader each year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 02, 2016, 05:26:26 PM
Alabama way out in front for Bruno per premium article last week
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 02, 2016, 06:15:12 PM
Oklahoma offered Theo John
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Logi4three on March 02, 2016, 06:46:27 PM
Is it possible Wojo's interest would be in keeping Markus in the 2017 class?  Does anyone know if Markus has made up his mind and decided that he definitely wants to reclass to 2016?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 02, 2016, 07:04:53 PM
Is it possible Wojo's interest would be in keeping Markus in the 2017 class?  Does anyone know if Markus has made up his mind and decided that he definitely wants to reclass to 2016?

I highly doubt he'd be doing his Official visits if he were staying '17.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: bilsu on March 02, 2016, 07:22:00 PM
Agreed.

Also, I'd just like to point out a few things about Carter:

Strengths: Assists (#38 nationally) and steals (#45 nationally)
Weaknesses: Efficiency (ORtg of 93 - below average), turnovers (TORate of 29%)

I like the guy, but a TORate of 29% for a PG is criminal (in Manitowac).
I wonder if part of the turnover rate has to do with playing with other young players. Season players understand how to help out their point guard and the point guard can generally rely on them being where they are supposed to be. Nobody knows what a young player is going to do. For example a point guard at Villanova can rely on his teammates being where they are supposed to be, because they have been playing together for 3 or 4 years. Young players tend to do things that are not expected. Carter will be more experienced next year and the players around him will be more experience, which could result in a significant decline in turnovers..
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MU82 on March 02, 2016, 07:24:05 PM
Traci is 100% better than Derrick!  Love his game.  He will play more like a leader each year.

Stop insulting Traci by saying he is only 100% better than Derrick.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 02, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
"Markus Howard's bro is @ucasports SO G Jordan Howard (20 ppg). Dad worked at Grand Canyon with UCA's Russ Pennell (Head coach)."

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Henry Sugar on March 03, 2016, 09:21:54 AM
Maybe but I'd rather have that then the Derrick Wilson school of not creating turnovers, which was don't make a pass longer than 5 feet.

Well, since you went there...

Last year, Derrick had a better ORtg (99 vs 93), a better turnover rate (21% vs 29%), and was still pretty good at assists (28% vs 34%). No, that turnover rate isn't particularly good, either.

Yeah yeah yeah, senior vs freshman and all that. I'm just providing the data.

Having said all that, here is why it matters. MU has had multiple games this year where protecting the ball has cost them the win. The two biggest offenders are Carter and Cheatham. For as much as I like Traci and Cheatham, their turnover rates absolutely need to improve next year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MU82 on March 03, 2016, 09:30:54 AM
Well, since you went there...

Last year, Derrick had a better ORtg (99 vs 93), a better turnover rate (21% vs 29%), and was still pretty good at assists (28% vs 34%). No, that turnover rate isn't particularly good, either.

Yeah yeah yeah, senior vs freshman and all that. I'm just providing the data.

Having said all that, here is why it matters. MU has had multiple games this year where protecting the ball has cost them the win. The two biggest offenders are Carter and Cheatham. For as much as I like Traci and Cheatham, their turnover rates absolutely need to improve next year.

With Carter and Cheatham, at least we've had some leads to try to protect!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 03, 2016, 09:39:41 AM
With Carter and Cheatham, at least we've had some leads to try to protect!

Yeah because we didn't upgrade anywhere besides the PG position.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Henry Sugar on March 03, 2016, 09:46:08 AM
With Carter and Cheatham, at least we've had some leads to try to protect!

(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/rolling_eyes_neil_degrasse_tyson.gif)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 03, 2016, 10:00:20 AM
For as much as I like Traci and Cheatham, their turnover rates absolutely need to improve next year.


Have you noticed any improvement over the last half of the season?  Thanks
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 03, 2016, 10:09:33 AM
Okay men.  Kindly take your Carter/Derrick comparison discussion elsewhere.  This is a recruiting thread and I hope/think it's been somewhat useful for people.  Thanks very much.   :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 03, 2016, 07:36:01 PM
Markus Howard official visit to Baylor starts tomorrow. Will get to see a great game between #10 WVU & #19 Baylor this weekend.

Go WVU :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MuMark on March 03, 2016, 07:39:26 PM
Milwaukee kid.....picked ISU today....MU offered Monday....

https://twitter.com/evandaniels/status/705558387375865856

http://www.scout.com/college/iowa-state/story/1647944-iowa-state-stops-in-to-see-darrell-bowie
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 03, 2016, 07:57:15 PM
Milwaukee kid.....picked ISU today....MU offered Monday....

https://twitter.com/evandaniels/status/705558387375865856

http://www.scout.com/college/iowa-state/story/1647944-iowa-state-stops-in-to-see-darrell-bowie

Interesting. Clearly Wojo think there will be a few schollirs available.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 03, 2016, 08:04:30 PM
Milwaukee kid.....picked ISU today....MU offered Monday....

https://twitter.com/evandaniels/status/705558387375865856

http://www.scout.com/college/iowa-state/story/1647944-iowa-state-stops-in-to-see-darrell-bowie

Dang! A full year of "do you want to borrow my jumper, Bowie?" jokes gone before I even knew it was a possibility.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 03, 2016, 09:21:59 PM
Interesting. Clearly Wojo think there will be a few schollirs available.

This is going to be an interesting couple months indeed.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MU82 on March 03, 2016, 09:31:42 PM
Okay men.  Kindly take your Carter/Derrick comparison discussion elsewhere.  This is a recruiting thread and I hope/think it's been somewhat useful for people.  Thanks very much.   :)

Reasonable request. I apologize for getting swept up in it.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: brandx on March 03, 2016, 09:42:18 PM
Glow, I'd like to thank you and many others for the info here.

Probably the best thread on the site.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 03, 2016, 09:47:47 PM
Glow, I'd like to thank you and many others for the info here.

Probably the best thread on the site.

Thanks very much.  I really appreciate it.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: barfolomew on March 03, 2016, 10:40:15 PM
(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/rolling_eyes_neil_degrasse_tyson.gif)

I've counted three Neil memes in 24hrs... Scoop wins the internet!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/sYUC6EeTLmd7W/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 04, 2016, 07:01:25 AM
I highly doubt he'd be doing his Official visits if he were staying '17.

I do not. Rule changed ~two years ago to allow Juniors to make official visits in the second half of their year (after Jan 1 I think the rule is)... you see it more and more.

Markus seems focused and wise -- already knows what schools he is interested in.. why not get to see teams in action before you commit vs. waiting til senior year and making visits during the preseason?

Now, in this particular case I think his desire is 2016... but, the official visits now don't make me believe that less or more.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 04, 2016, 07:02:44 AM
I've counted three Neil memes in 24hrs... Scoop wins the internet!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/sYUC6EeTLmd7W/giphy.gif)

He has a great cameo appearance in Zoolander 2.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 04, 2016, 07:38:02 AM
I do not. Rule changed ~two years ago to allow Juniors to make official visits in the second half of their year (after Jan 1 I think the rule is)... you see it more and more.

Markus seems focused and wise -- already knows what schools he is interested in.. why not get to see teams in action before you commit vs. waiting til senior year and making visits during the preseason?

Now, in this particular case I think his desire is 2016... but, the official visits now don't make me believe that less or more.

Thanks for the new info JB.  Are they still limited to 5?  Is that 5 TOTAL or could that 5 per year?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 04, 2016, 10:33:52 AM
Might be premature to add but Jericho Sims seems to be a name for 2017

http://www.startribune.com/humble-cristo-rey-basketball-star-drawing-big-time-college-looks/367108751/

"Cristo Rey coach Stanley Clay estimates about 25 college basketball programs have inquired about Sims, including Duke, Minnesota, Marquette, Arizona and Iowa."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 04, 2016, 10:41:07 AM
Might be premature to add but Jericho Sims seems to be a name for 2017

http://www.startribune.com/humble-cristo-rey-basketball-star-drawing-big-time-college-looks/367108751/

"Cristo Rey coach Stanley Clay estimates about 25 college basketball programs have inquired about Sims, including Duke, Minnesota, Marquette, Arizona and Iowa."

Cristo Rey Jesuit? Might as well be a shoe in.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: DoggyDaddy on March 04, 2016, 11:16:44 AM
Hope the 6'9"wing plays Wojo-style defense so Homer or Mac might say: Jericho's wall of long arms just denied that drive.     
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: brandx on March 04, 2016, 11:38:07 AM
Hope the 6'9"wing plays Wojo-style defense so Homer or Mac might say: Jericho's wall of long arms just denied that drive.   

And if he gets knocked over while denying that drive?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on March 04, 2016, 11:39:20 AM
And if he gets knocked over while denying that drive?


Only by guys named Joshua.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MU TommyDieHard on March 04, 2016, 11:57:06 AM
Boys, turn your attention to Mr. Herro if you are around Milwaukee area.  Game at home tonight against Bay View team and then a hopeful showdown with Pewaukee team Sat evening that threw box and 1 on Mr. Herro the last two times that they played him and frustrated him.  Let see if he learned from it and can respond.  Would be a great addition behind Carter and Cheatham to learn from for a year.  (and no I am not his dad or a relative) 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: buckchuckler on March 04, 2016, 04:21:12 PM
He has a great cameo appearance in Zoolander 2.

Whatever.  F that guy.  He ruined Pluto.  Not sure why he isn't a complete outcast from society. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 04, 2016, 05:51:00 PM
Might be premature to add but Jericho Sims seems to be a name for 2017

http://www.startribune.com/humble-cristo-rey-basketball-star-drawing-big-time-college-looks/367108751/

"Cristo Rey coach Stanley Clay estimates about 25 college basketball programs have inquired about Sims, including Duke, Minnesota, Marquette, Arizona and Iowa."

Kansas has watched him this season. High ceiling kid. Would be great at MU
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 04, 2016, 06:02:11 PM
Anyone else have 247? when I was reading the Baylor / Markus Howard article today about his Findlay Prep teammate being a Baylor commit it surprised me that hadn't been mentioned much before around here.

Not liking that + last visit
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 04, 2016, 06:07:17 PM
Anyone else have 247? when I was reading the Baylor / Markus Howard article today about his Findlay Prep teammate being a Baylor commit it surprised me that hadn't been mentioned much before around here.

Not liking that + last visit

Yeah no good, But SJ's history with Howard may turn it in our favor.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 04, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
Per 247 Alabama offered Kalif Young. I missed that. Was awhile ago I guess
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 04, 2016, 07:40:30 PM
Don't know if we're still looking at Nojel Eastern but so far after a half I am very unimpressed by him. He has a looong way to go if he wants to be a successful college player.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: rmi210 on March 04, 2016, 09:48:41 PM
He may have learned.  He dropped 41, won by 3
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 04, 2016, 10:21:02 PM
He may have learned.  He dropped 41, won by 3

Huh? He had 19...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 04, 2016, 11:19:11 PM
Sounds like Herro had 41 in a 3 point playoff win tonight.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 05, 2016, 02:44:26 PM
Anyone else have 247? when I was reading the Baylor / Markus Howard article today about his Findlay Prep teammate being a Baylor commit it surprised me that hadn't been mentioned much before around here.

Not liking that + last visit

Watched part of the Baylor wvu game on a plane. I hope Howard is enjoying a half full stadium on senior night against a top ten opponent with people leaving halfway through the second half because they're getting spanked.

Might mean nothing but I think we had the better game day experience.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 05, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
Watched part of the Baylor wvu game on a plane. I hope Howard is enjoying a half full stadium on senior night against a top ten opponent with people leaving halfway through the second half because they're getting spanked.

Might mean nothing but I think we had the better game day experience.

Baylor'$ recruting tactic$ have nothing to do with the $port they're recruiting the kid for, ai'na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 05, 2016, 02:56:39 PM
Baylor'$ recruting tactic$ have nothing to do with the $port they're recruiting the kid for, ai'na?

There is that
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Herman Cain on March 05, 2016, 03:38:51 PM
Anyone else have 247? when I was reading the Baylor / Markus Howard article today about his Findlay Prep teammate being a Baylor commit it surprised me that hadn't been mentioned much before around here.

Not liking that + last visit
I am worried about USC with Howard.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 05, 2016, 03:48:41 PM
I am worried about USC with Howard.

You are the only one.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 05, 2016, 04:33:10 PM
I thought it was agreed to eliminate "air na."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Newsdreams on March 05, 2016, 05:44:47 PM
I thought it was agreed to eliminate "air na."
What, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: rmi210 on March 05, 2016, 06:52:26 PM
Huh? He had 19...
Not according to the box score http://www.wissports.net/roster_players/9187815
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 05, 2016, 06:54:59 PM
Not according to the box score http://www.wissports.net/roster_players/9187815

ChiTown was talking about Nojel Eastern
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 06, 2016, 10:36:39 AM
So according to 247, Markus should be on the way home from Baylor after visiting his brother earlier in the week.  Any twitter updates or other info?  I think I read that the Baylor turnout was terrible, etc.  I believe he has one Official left in the bank.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 06, 2016, 10:49:59 AM
So according to 247, Markus should be on the way home from Baylor after visiting his brother earlier in the week.  Any twitter updates or other info?

I heard the visit went great. His Findlay Prep teammate & Baylor commit visited with him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 06, 2016, 11:00:58 AM
Utter than Scooter McCray's visit goin' south, has a recruit ever bitched 'bout their free trip, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 06, 2016, 11:07:42 AM
I heard the visit went great.

From who? Who have you heard this from? The kid hasn't even left Waco yet.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 06, 2016, 11:09:20 AM
I heard the visit went great. His Findlay Prep teammate & Baylor commit visited with him.

Certainly interesting and could be a factor.  Personally, I'm viewing Cent. Ark. as a paid family visit.  My gut (nothing more) tells me MU has a solid chance but that this is far from in the bag.  I do think that Markus' decision doesn't necessarily have to wait on Henry.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 06, 2016, 11:13:30 AM
From who? Who have you heard this from? The kid hasn't even left Waco yet.

Ashley Hodge. Never said he wasn't in Waco
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 06, 2016, 11:17:11 AM
Ashley Hodge. Never said he wasn't in Waco

Ashley Hodge? She thinks everybody is committing to Baylor. She's worse than Evan Flood for the Badgers.

Do you know Ashley? She hasn't posted anything from what I can see.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 06, 2016, 11:20:46 AM
Ashley Hodge? She thinks everybody is committing to Baylor. She's worse than Evan Flood for the Badgers.

Do you know Ashley? She hasn't posted anything from what I can see.

Just put me on ignore. I was saying what I saw online. He had a good time at the game with Tristan Clark, his HS teammate & Baylor commit is what I saw.

It's not a big deal. Nobody else is getting worked up over it
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 06, 2016, 11:45:34 AM
Just put me on ignore. I was saying what I saw online. He had a good time at the game with Tristan Clark, his HS teammate & Baylor commit is what I saw.

It's not a big deal. Nobody else is getting worked up over it

Exactly.  Thanks very much for the timely info.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 06, 2016, 11:49:55 AM
Also saw that Baylor students were on spring break so that the campus was pretty dead. I'll take anything that helps :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 06, 2016, 12:40:03 PM
Just put me on ignore. I was saying what I saw online. He had a good time at the game with Tristan Clark, his HS teammate & Baylor commit is what I saw.

It's not a big deal. Nobody else is getting worked up over it

Sorry if I came off aggressive. Was just checking your source. When Someone says "i heard" vs sharing an article it usually implies insider knowledge around here.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 06, 2016, 01:17:34 PM
Just put me on ignore. I was saying what I saw online. He had a good time at the game with Tristan Clark, his HS teammate & Baylor commit is what I saw.

It's not a big deal. Nobody else is getting worked up over it

I hate to ask but can you send me a link to what you found? I have 247 all access but I can't find the article you mentioned.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 06, 2016, 06:17:24 PM
The Findlay Prep teammates:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc5LotdUYAM_5fk?format=pjpg&name=large)

Man those things are bright (& hurt my eyes). Must be a generational thing :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MuMark on March 06, 2016, 06:25:08 PM
https://twitter.com/22ft_academy/status/706634759972261888
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: BM1090 on March 07, 2016, 04:30:27 PM
Markus enjoyed his Baylor visit so much that Ashley Hodge changed her (his?) prediction from Baylor to Marquette  ;D

Starting to feel really good about this one.

http://247sports.com/Player/Markus-Howard-72560
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 07, 2016, 04:41:10 PM
Markus enjoyed his Baylor visit so much that Ashley Hodge changed her (his?) prediction from Baylor to Marquette  ;D

Starting to feel really good about this one.

http://247sports.com/Player/Markus-Howard-72560

Boom. Feeling pretty darn good here.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 07, 2016, 05:09:56 PM
Markus enjoyed his Baylor visit so much that Ashley Hodge changed her (his?) prediction from Baylor to Marquette  ;D

Starting to feel really good about this one.

http://247sports.com/Player/Markus-Howard-72560

Good news for MU! I'm very excited for his announcement!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 07, 2016, 05:27:00 PM
https://twitter.com/22ft_academy/status/706634759972261888

Are we in on either of those 2?

Markus enjoyed his Baylor visit so much that Ashley Hodge changed her (his?) prediction from Baylor to Marquette  ;D

Starting to feel really good about this one.

http://247sports.com/Player/Markus-Howard-72560

Who is Ashley Hodge?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 07, 2016, 05:29:04 PM
Who is Ashley Hodge?

I referenced a post on a message board that Markus was enjoying his visit with his HS teammate and Baylor commitment (which to my knowledge wasn't previously mentioned on Scoop)

TAMU said I don't know Ashley & that Hodge is completely useless, more so than Evan Flood the Badgers guy.

Today Hodge flipped 247 crystal ball to Marquette

Quickly summed up...good news for MU :) gotta be over 70% in crystal balls now?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 07, 2016, 05:46:43 PM
I referenced a post on a message board that Markus was enjoying his visit with his HS teammate and Baylor commitment (which to my knowledge wasn't previously mentioned on Scoop)

TAMU said I don't know Ashley & that Hodge is completely useless, more so than Evan Flood the Badgers guy.

Today Hodge flipped 247 crystal ball to Marquette

Quickly summed up...good news for MU :) gotta be over 70% in crystal balls now?

Cool, thanks.  Here's to hoping he decides there's no need for a 5th visit and we hear some good news in about a month.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 07, 2016, 05:51:07 PM
Cool, thanks.  Here's to hoping he decides there's no need for a 5th visit and we hear some good news in about a month.

Pulling HeNBA & Markus in back 2 back years would be something special. Wojo and his staff work extremely hard.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: esotericmindguy on March 07, 2016, 06:20:23 PM
So now these "academies" don't even pretend to be a school? They just partner with another school? All 22ft academy has is a gym and a weight room with tutors?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 07, 2016, 08:07:31 PM
So now these "academies" don't even pretend to be a school? They just partner with another school? All 22ft academy has is a gym and a weight room with tutors?

Done been like that for a long time.

Markus' team - Findlay Prep - is the same. The kids go to school at Henderson.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 07, 2016, 09:32:07 PM
I referenced a post on a message board that Markus was enjoying his visit with his HS teammate and Baylor commitment (which to my knowledge wasn't previously mentioned on Scoop)

TAMU said I don't know Ashley & that Hodge is completely useless, more so than Evan Flood the Badgers guy.

Today Hodge flipped 247 crystal ball to Marquette

Quickly summed up...good news for MU :) gotta be over 70% in crystal balls now?

I referenced a post on a message board that Markus was enjoying his visit with his HS teammate and Baylor commitment (which to my knowledge wasn't previously mentioned on Scoop)

TAMU said I don't know Ashley & that Hodge is completely useless, more so than Evan Flood the Badgers guy.

Today Hodge flipped 247 crystal ball to Marquette

Quickly summed up...good news for MU :) gotta be over 70% in crystal balls now?

Warrior Pride, you didn't reference a post from a message board. You said you heard that his visit went great. Since you didn't reference something, I asked you for a source because I know you are connected to AAU, I knew the visit wasn't over yet, and because it was in direct conflict with something that I was hearing from someone I trust, I thought you might have better intel than I do. I'll admit, I came off a bit aggressive and have apologized for it. When you responded, you just said Ashley Hodge. Not, an article from Ashley Hodge or a post on a message board from Ashley Hodge, just Ashley Hodge. Since you didn't reference something specific, I thought maybe you knew Ashley which is why I asked. I also shared my opinion about Ashley Hodge because if you check his crystal ball and posting history, he picks everyone Baylor targets to go to Baylor and then changes it once it becomes undeniably apparent that the recruit has no interest in Baylor. After that, you said it was from an article on 247. I hadn't seen the article so I apologized.

I haven't been able to find the article, if you get a chance can you send me a link to it. Even though Hodge does predict everyone to Baylor, he is their insider so I would be curious to see what their opinion of their chances are.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 07, 2016, 09:44:43 PM
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I may have to switch back to Baylor soon

Hodge switched but seems to think Baylor still has a chance. I like MU's chances
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Herman Cain on March 07, 2016, 10:11:28 PM
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I may have to switch back to Baylor soon

Hodge switched but seems to think Baylor still has a chance. I like MU's chances
I still am worried about USC lurking in the bushes. Other than that we are in good position.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 07, 2016, 10:18:43 PM
I still am worried about USC lurking in the bushes. Other than that we are in good position.

Do you have any sort of source for this concern? USC and Howard haven't been mentioned together for a very long time from what I can see.

Not trying to attack, trying to understand because you've mentioned it a couple of times
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Herman Cain on March 07, 2016, 10:33:51 PM
Do you have any sort of source for this concern? USC and Howard haven't been mentioned together for a very long time from what I can see.

Not trying to attack, trying to understand because you've mentioned it a couple of times
I have spent a lot of time over the years in that So Cal, Arizona, Vegas corridor and I have found the cachet and Hollywood ties of USC to be a very big deal in that area. Lots of people who never went there ,much less even went to college, support SC. My concern was that I heard somewhere young Mr. Howard was potentially reserving a visit at the end with them. That is why I have it in the lurking in the bushes category. If there is no visit then we don't need to worry about them.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: esotericmindguy on March 07, 2016, 10:55:30 PM
Done been like that for a long time.

Markus' team - Findlay Prep - is the same. The kids go to school at Henderson.

Crazy. At least Findlay has a school right? It sounds to me like 12ft "academy" has a gym and weight room.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 07, 2016, 11:03:46 PM
I have spent a lot of time over the years in that So Cal, Arizona, Vegas corridor and I have found the cachet and Hollywood ties of USC to be a very big deal in that area. Lots of people who never went there ,much less even went to college, support SC. My concern was that I heard somewhere young Mr. Howard was potentially reserving a visit at the end with them. That is why I have it in the lurking in the bushes category. If there is no visit then we don't need to worry about them.

I've lived in Las Vegas for 23 years (from Milwaukee) and never thought about a USC basketball cachet here.  Football yes, basketball no.  UCLA basketball is much more popular here.  Las Vegas is a very "bandwagon" city. Of course I don't know anything about Markus & USC.

Las Vegas native Bryce Harper listed his favorite sports teams a few years ago.  Baseball: NY Yankees; NFL: Dallas Cowboys; NCAAFB: USC; NCAABB: Duke.  Very typical here...

Those of us from various parts of the country still root for our home teams.  It makes for very interesting and lively discussions!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 07, 2016, 11:19:14 PM
I have spent a lot of time over the years in that So Cal, Arizona, Vegas corridor and I have found the cachet and Hollywood ties of USC to be a very big deal in that area. Lots of people who never went there ,much less even went to college, support SC. My concern was that I heard somewhere young Mr. Howard was potentially reserving a visit at the end with them. That is why I have it in the lurking in the bushes category. If there is no visit then we don't need to worry about them.

Certainly possible, but I don't see it. My gut tells me that young Mr. Howard won't take any more visits (unless he doesn't reclassify). I think its down to MU and Baylor and MU is strongly in the lead.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 08, 2016, 06:51:08 AM
I've lived in Las Vegas for 23 years (from Milwaukee) and never thought about a USC basketball cachet here.  Football yes, basketball no.  UCLA basketball is much more popular here.  Las Vegas is a very "bandwagon" city. Of course I don't know anything about Markus & USC.

Las Vegas native Bryce Harper listed his favorite sports teams a few years ago.  Baseball: NY Yankees; NFL: Dallas Cowboys; NCAAFB: USC; NCAABB: Duke.  Very typical here...

Those of us from various parts of the country still root for our home teams.  It makes for very interesting and lively discussions!

Vegas has it 100% correct.  Ever been up to Big Dogs near Santa Fe casino to watch the Packers?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 08, 2016, 07:17:56 AM
Are we in on either of those 2?

To answer your question, we're reportedly recruiting both.  No idea how high up on any pecking order.  It would seem that Markus is priority #1 and that a replacement big is priority #2.

And let's definitely say this about the Markus visit.  Marquette was the only school far from home that he visited where he didn't have a secondary motive (either visiting his brother or hanging with his HS friend.)  Now I'm not suggesting he did anything inappropriate and something on each campus could have caused him to reconsider but I still very much like our chances.  Has he said anything about an announcement date?  I was thinking April.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 08, 2016, 07:22:51 AM
To answer your question, we're reportedly recruiting both.  No idea how high up on any pecking order.  It would seem that Markus is priority #1 and that a replacement big is priority #2.

And let's definitely say this about the Markus visit.  Marquette was the only school far from home that he visited where he didn't have a secondary motive (either visiting his brother or hanging with his HS friend.)  Now I'm not suggesting he did anything inappropriate and something on each campus could have caused him to reconsider but I still very much like our chances.  Has he said anything about an announcement date?  I was thinking April.

Awhile ago he said April. I'd assume that's still true
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: bilsu on March 08, 2016, 07:30:02 AM
First of all he his to make the decision to reclassify. I think he will, but that decision is not final. Until he does that he is not going to pick a school.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 08, 2016, 07:39:18 AM
First of all he his to make the decision to reclassify. I think he will, but that decision is not final. Until he does that he is not going to pick a school.

Certainly.  Is there some kind of paperwork involved?  Said another way, does there need to be a gap period?  And one other thing.  I'm assuming he's down to 1 official visit for his lifetime.  This has me really believing that he's heading to college after this year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 08, 2016, 08:53:49 AM
https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/primetime-shootout-bruno-fernando-to-decide-soon-naz-reid-hearing-from-uk-cuse/164514476

This article says Bruno Fernando wants to make his decision soon. It also lists us as one of the front runners for him. I'm honestly surprised because I don't think he has planned a visit to us and I can't imagine he would consider us without visiting first.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on March 08, 2016, 09:09:47 AM
Stan is the man. Great hire. Nothing official yet, but for what it is worth I believe. Oh and if I am wrong," He" whose name is not to be spoken is welcome to rip me. 

I know this year did not go as well as some thought, including me, but Wojo is building a program. The progress is very apparent. To me I look for three keys:

1) eye for talent and ability to get these players
2) ability to develop said talent
3) Game coaching

1 is clearly something Steve can do.  Getthing HC out of Florida is a steal.
2- clearly is showing progress-- JJJ, is a big one.  It will be key to see what happens between this year and next with SC3, SA, DW, TC, etc.
3- This is where the most growth needs to occur (IMHO).  Young staff and they are learing too and they are learning. 

Grade so far "B".

Buzz did not have the luxury to build a program, no real credibility/history, he had to win to prove he deserved the opportunity, hence JUCO route and he did well.  Wojo has the time and is building a new tradition, he is doing what his mentor taught him. 


Dang I think I broke my own rule and got off topic but I wanted to share some of these thoughts.

Graduate transfer PF definitely on the radar.  No one specific, just the concept.  I know the Bisping's from Peoria well, they are not sure what they want to do after this season.  Brett is a great kid, from a great family.  There will be options, if HE leaves. I expect he will and should, especially if he is a lottery choice.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 08, 2016, 09:38:36 AM
Stan is the man. Great hire. Nothing official yet, but for what it is worth I believe. Oh and if I am wrong," He" whose name is not to be spoken is welcome to rip me. 

I know this year did not go as well as some thought, including me, but Wojo is building a program. The progress is very apparent. To me I look for three keys:

1) eye for talent and ability to get these players
2) ability to develop said talent
3) Game coaching

1 is clearly something Steve can do.  Getthing HC out of Florida is a steal.
2- clearly is showing progress-- JJJ, is a big one.  It will be key to see what happens between this year and next with SC3, SA, DW, TC, etc.
3- This is where the most growth needs to occur (IMHO).  Young staff and they are learing too and they are learning. 

Grade so far "B".

Buzz did not have the luxury to build a program, no real credibility/history, he had to win to prove he deserved the opportunity, hence JUCO route and he did well.  Wojo has the time and is building a new tradition, he is doing what his mentor taught him. 


Dang I think I broke my own rule and got off topic but I wanted to share some of these thoughts.

Graduate transfer PF definitely on the radar.  No one specific, just the concept.  I know the Bisping's from Peoria well, they are not sure what they want to do after this season.  Brett is a great kid, from a great family.  There will be options, if HE leaves. I expect he will and should, especially if he is a lottery choice.

Wonderful. Thank you, as always.

Haani was overlooked due to the deserved Hank hype but couldn't agree more with your words that getting him out of Florida was an absolute theft job by the staff. Speaking of theft, Traci needs time to blood but for an April pickup to be top five in the conference in assists and steals is remarkable.

The talent upgrade from the previous season is undoubtedly present. That's the sign you need to see from a new coach to have any positive hopes for it turning around. MU is a couple of bad rookie choke jobs from being 10-8 in conference. For a second year coach with what he inherited that 10-8 would make even the most ardent cynic crack half a smile.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: KampusFoods on March 08, 2016, 09:42:49 AM
but but but, Damion Lee and Shonn Miller!

Thanks BD your knowledge is much appreciated.

 Username change AND the ron paul gif??? #DoneDeal
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Hubert Davis on March 08, 2016, 09:50:31 AM
Any aircraft carriers coming in next year?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 08, 2016, 09:54:56 AM
Any aircraft carriers coming in next year?

Beat me to it Al. 

BD, any gut instinct about either Bruno or Kalif?  Or do you think Wojo will try to go 'older'?  If you have no opinion that's cool too.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on March 08, 2016, 10:10:46 AM

Graduate transfer PF definitely on the radar.  No one specific, just the concept.  I know the Bisping's from Peoria well, they are not sure what they want to do after this season.  Brett is a great kid, from a great family.  There will be options, if HE leaves. I expect he will and should, especially if he is a lottery choice.



http://blog.timesunion.com/collegesports/brett-bisping-i-love-siena-i-want-to-stay-here/21759/

He says he wants to stay, but has already looked at alternatives. 

Thanks Big Daddy.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: The Lens on March 08, 2016, 10:22:19 AM
He averaged a Double-Double this year, 16 & 10 and says he likes to model his game after Bill Laimbeer.  We could use some dirty.  I hate seeing these mid-majors lose great players that they've developed but if it means JJJ & Luke can Dance, I will look the other way.

http://www.sienasaints.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/brett_bisping_803240.html (http://www.sienasaints.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/brett_bisping_803240.html)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 08, 2016, 10:36:20 AM
Vegas has it 100% correct.  Ever been up to Big Dogs near Santa Fe casino to watch the Packers?

My wife and I are Big Dogs Drafthouse "Packer Backer" members and watch the games there.  The only problem is for a 10am game you have to get there about 7:30am to insure getting a table!  We take the Sunday paper and our tablets/phones and actually the time goes pretty fast as we have a nice breakfast before kickoff.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: naginiF on March 08, 2016, 10:38:32 AM
He averaged a Double-Double this year, 16 & 10 and says he likes to model his game after Bill Laimbeer.  We could use some dirty.  I hate seeing these mid-majors lose great players that they've developed but if it means JJJ & Luke can Dance, I will look the other way.

http://www.sienasaints.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/brett_bisping_803240.html (http://www.sienasaints.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/brett_bisping_803240.html)
Siena still owes us one for Mike Deane though
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: LAZER on March 08, 2016, 10:45:16 AM

http://blog.timesunion.com/collegesports/brett-bisping-i-love-siena-i-want-to-stay-here/21759/

He says he wants to stay, but has already looked at alternatives. 

Thanks Big Daddy.

Says he won't graduate this year too, unless he does summer courses
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on March 08, 2016, 10:49:00 AM
Says he won't graduate this year too, unless he does summer courses


Right.  But if he stays at Sienna he has to be eligible both semesters, which means it made perfect sense for him to "save" two classes for his senior year.  (They don't have graduate programs.)

The fact that he has looked into taking summer classes, and with BD saying "they are not sure what they will do," means that that POSSIBILITY of a graduate transfer has been looked into.

Now the chances of him transferring, the chances of MU being interested, and the chances of him ending up here make this a long-shot.  But what the hell.  We are actively discussing Marquette winning the BET.  Might as well discuss this too.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 08, 2016, 12:21:19 PM
https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/primetime-shootout-bruno-fernando-to-decide-soon-naz-reid-hearing-from-uk-cuse/164514476

This article says Bruno Fernando wants to make his decision soon. It also lists us as one of the front runners for him. I'm honestly surprised because I don't think he has planned a visit to us and I can't imagine he would consider us without visiting first.

Wojo is keeping his 'like' game strong on Bruno
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: The Lens on March 08, 2016, 12:28:29 PM
If we land Bruno & Howard, I will have ZERO concerns about the future of the program.  Recruiting always trumps coaching in college. And Wojo's coaching will get better.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: bilsu on March 08, 2016, 12:47:19 PM
If we land Bruno & Howard, I will have ZERO concerns about the future of the program.  Recruiting always trumps coaching in college. And Wojo's coaching will get better.
Wojo will have justified his contract extension if he lands these two.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: LAZER on March 08, 2016, 12:52:16 PM

Right.  But if he stays at Sienna he has to be eligible both semesters, which means it made perfect sense for him to "save" two classes for his senior year.  (They don't have graduate programs.)

The fact that he has looked into taking summer classes, and with BD saying "they are not sure what they will do," means that that POSSIBILITY of a graduate transfer has been looked into.

Now the chances of him transferring, the chances of MU being interested, and the chances of him ending up here make this a long-shot.  But what the hell.  We are actively discussing Marquette winning the BET.  Might as well discuss this too.

I agree, just think it's worth noting. It's a little bit different than your normal grad transfer, assuming he would finish this summer at Sienna and then transfer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 08, 2016, 01:00:37 PM
Would be pretty remarkable if Wojo got both of these guys.

I don't really know much at all(ok I know nothing) but I'd still be shocked if we ended up with Fernando.

Very confident on Howard though.


Just love that he keeps making legit runs at guys and when he misses he still finds others.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 08, 2016, 03:20:29 PM
My wife and I are Big Dogs Drafthouse "Packer Backer" members and watch the games there.  The only problem is for a 10am game you have to get there about 7:30am to insure getting a table!  We take the Sunday paper and our tablets/phones and actually the time goes pretty fast as we have a nice breakfast before kickoff.

I've heard that. Crazy early. 'Hun, we can't go out in Las Vegas on Saturday cause I have to get to the bar by 7:30a.'
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 08, 2016, 03:33:23 PM

Right.  But if he stays at Sienna he has to be eligible both semesters, which means it made perfect sense for him to "save" two classes for his senior year.  (They don't have graduate programs.)

The fact that he has looked into taking summer classes, and with BD saying "they are not sure what they will do," means that that POSSIBILITY of a graduate transfer has been looked into.

Now the chances of him transferring, the chances of MU being interested, and the chances of him ending up here make this a long-shot.  But what the hell.  We are actively discussing Marquette winning the BET.  Might as well discuss this too.

If Marquette offered Darrell Bowie out of Northern Ill., I would assume they'd be interested in in Bisping.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MuMark on March 08, 2016, 03:48:04 PM
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I switched my crystal ball to Marquette. Was feeling all gloomy. Had a few conversations; received a text... And all of a sudden...


I may have to switch back to Baylor soon

Hodge switched but seems to think Baylor still has a chance. I like MU's chances

Hodge did switch back to Baylor FWIW
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 08, 2016, 04:28:19 PM
Hodge did switch back to Baylor FWIW

cristal bowel is a dumb marketing toy
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 08, 2016, 05:25:48 PM
Hodge did switch back to Baylor FWIW

Not much honestly. As I said before, Hodge picks everyone to Baylor and only changes when it become undeniable that they are going somewhere else. So if Hodge switched, he was sure Howard was going to Marquette but then switched back because something gave him some smidgen of hope for Baylor. He's a Baylor guy, its his job to give the fan base what they want.

And while I don't share the same level of disdain for the crystal ball as our resident Gopher Warrior, crystal ball predictions aren't much good for anything other than determining a general idea of who the top suitors for a certain player are. They aren't a good predictor until about 1 hour before a recruit's commitment.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: BM1090 on March 08, 2016, 06:07:06 PM
Not much honestly. As I said before, Hodge picks everyone to Baylor and only changes when it become undeniable that they are going somewhere else. So if Hodge switched, he was sure Howard was going to Marquette but then switched back because something gave him some smidgen of hope for Baylor. He's a Baylor guy, its his job to give the fan base what they want.

And while I don't share the same level of disdain for the crystal ball as our resident Gopher Warrior, crystal ball predictions aren't much good for anything other than determining a general idea of who the top suitors for a certain player are. They aren't a good predictor until about 1 hour before a recruit's commitment.

Exactly. If Mark Miller or Jerry Meyer switch to Baylor then that's probably not a good sign. Hodge switching doesn't mean much.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 08, 2016, 06:57:26 PM
TAMU,

Did Ashley give any reason why the sudden switch back? I trust your opinion, so I'm in the boat of not trusting Hodge
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 08, 2016, 07:01:45 PM
TAMU,

Did Ashley give any reason why the sudden switch back? I trust your opinion, so I'm in the boat of not trusting Hodge

All he said was he received a text and that he may need to switch back soon.

Earlier he mentioned that he couldn't get a hold of Howard. He might of just panicked and thought Howard was dodging his calls. Sounds very high school when you put it like that haha
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 08, 2016, 07:19:30 PM
All he said was he received a text and that he may need to switch back soon.

Earlier he mentioned that he couldn't get a hold of Howard. He might of just panicked and thought Howard was dodging his calls. Sounds very high school when you put it like that haha

Welcome to the cristal bowel, where votes of teenagers count.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 09, 2016, 12:51:13 AM
Hodge posted a post visit interview with Howard's father.

http://baylor.247sports.com/Article/Notes-On-Highly-Regarded-Point-Guard-Markus-Howard--44152589

Sorry, its behind a paywall. General gist, Mr. Howard gave very vanilla answers about the visit. Mentioned that they were concerned about Baylor being football first. Went on to mention that they liked how Marquette was in a strong basketball only conference. Says ASU, Baylor, Central Arkansas, and Marquette are all in contention though he spent the most time talking about Marquette and Baylor. Didn't have any comments about Arizona State. Will make a decision after Markus is approved to reclassify. Says he's a 4.0 student so that shouldn't be a problem.

I really feel good about our chances  8-)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: forgetful on March 09, 2016, 01:27:38 AM
Hodge posted a post visit interview with Howard's father.

http://baylor.247sports.com/Article/Notes-On-Highly-Regarded-Point-Guard-Markus-Howard--44152589

Sorry, its behind a paywall. General gist, Mr. Howard gave very vanilla answers about the visit. Mentioned that they were concerned about Baylor being football first. Went on to mention that they liked how Marquette was in a strong basketball only conference. Says ASU, Baylor, Central Arkansas, and Marquette are all in contention though he spent the most time talking about Marquette and Baylor. Didn't have any comments about Arizona State. Will make a decision after Markus is approved to reclassify. Says he's a 4.0 student so that shouldn't be a problem.

I really feel good about our chances  8-)

Markus and his father seem like great people.  Wherever he goes (and I home it is MU), he'll undoubtedly have a long and successful career, both in Basketball and beyond.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 11, 2016, 07:55:09 AM
Herro with another 40 point outing in a sectional semifinal win.  40 of his team's 70 points.

5th 40 point game of the season as a sophomore in high school.  Would not complain at all about having him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 11, 2016, 08:11:19 AM
Back on the Markus thing for a moment.  So if he were to commit, do the experts here think he'd be an immediate contributor?  Asked another way, is it fair to think of him as a Frosh Haani or Vander able to be an immediate All-Frosh BEast type guy?  And if that's the case should we really anticipate a 4-1 line-up next year with JjJ manning the mini #4?  He has shown a willingness and ability to rebound from the #3.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 11, 2016, 08:14:42 AM
Back on the Markus thing for a moment.  So if he were to commit, do the experts here think he'd be an immediate contributor?  Asked another way, is it fair to think of him as a Frosh Haani or Vander able to be an immediate All-Frosh BEast type guy?  And if that's the case should we really anticipate a 4-1 line-up next year with JjJ manning the mini #4?  He has shown a willingness and ability to rebound from the #3.

Yes, Markus would contribute immediately.  The lineup would depend on what Wojo can get with the last scholarship, but we would most likely see a lot of 4 guard lineups.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 11, 2016, 08:37:27 AM
Back on the Markus thing for a moment.  So if he were to commit, do the experts here think he'd be an immediate contributor?  Asked another way, is it fair to think of him as a Frosh Haani or Vander able to be an immediate All-Frosh BEast type guy?  And if that's the case should we really anticipate a 4-1 line-up next year with JjJ manning the mini #4?  He has shown a willingness and ability to rebound from the #3.

Howard would definitely be an immediate contributor. I don't think he would start at the point. He's better overall than Traci but my impression is that Traci is a better distributor and floor general at the moment. But as Wojo has said multiple times, he doesn't limit himself to playing one point at a time. Howard would be in our top 6 minute getters. And yes, I think we see a lot of four guard lineups with JJJ, Sandy, Wally, Sacar, Cheatham, and Hauser all seeing time at the four. A very high octane offense that can shot from all over the floor and drive to the lane at will. Should be able to draw lots of fouls too. On defense, going to require high pressure and guards with the ability to deny the entry pass. Our offense will need to be potent enough to make opponents pay for leaving slow bigs on the floor because we will pretty weak in terms of post defense. Sandy might be the key to next season. He's a good defender and can guard players bigger than he is. If he can find his offensive role, then I'm not worried about next season.

All of this is moot of course if Wojo finds an immediate impact PF from either the grad transfer, juco, or freshman ranks....or HE decides to stay another year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: We R Final Four on March 11, 2016, 09:47:48 AM
Back on the Markus thing for a moment.  So if he were to commit, do the experts here think he'd be an immediate contributor?  Asked another way, is it fair to think of him as a Frosh Haani or Vander able to be an immediate All-Frosh BEast type guy?  And if that's the case should we really anticipate a 4-1 line-up next year with JjJ manning the mini #4?  He has shown a willingness and ability to rebound from the #3.
I have to completely disagree--JJJ is a baaaaddddd rebounder. In fairness to him, he is being asked to rebound as if he were more of a 4 and he is not. Every game he did not box out on the weakside and his man either got the rebound or was fouled via a push in the back after he got inside JJJ. I love JJJ, but his rebounding is brutal.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GOO on March 11, 2016, 10:06:03 AM
I am far from an expert, but Markus would give us a guy that has to be guarded all over the court on Offense. But, I think there would be an adjustment to BE level ball especially finishing inside and on floaters.  He will be able to get to the hoop, but it may take a while for him to figure out how to finish at that point or dish out. 

Defense, I'm not sure at all.  He is smaller, of course, and that would be a concern. 

As TAMU mentioned, next year will be higher octane offense and defense, in my opinion out of necessity.  Unless HE returns, then we can slow it down and try to get it inside more.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 11, 2016, 02:26:33 PM
I have to completely disagree--JJJ is a baaaaddddd rebounder. In fairness to him, he is being asked to rebound as if he were more of a 4 and he is not. Every game he did not box out on the weakside and his man either got the rebound or was fouled via a push in the back after he got inside JJJ. I love JJJ, but his rebounding is brutal.

Statistically you're wrong.  He's 3rd best on the team per 40 minutes play of our top 7 rotation.  I excluded Wally but admit that he is a far superior rebounder than JjJ.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: We R Final Four on March 11, 2016, 03:52:45 PM
Is there a stat for a defender (JJJ) turning around and watching an opponents shot miss and the guy you shouldve boxed out gets the rebound and scores? If there is.....JJJ is the best.

When Luke boxes his guy out for 4 seconds so JJJ can grab the ball--jj gets the rebound stat right?
I see Jj get burned on his rebounding EVERY single game.
I love JJJs game--very solid.....except for his rebounding which is brutal--whether stats bear that out or not.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 11, 2016, 04:03:26 PM
Is there a stat for a defender (JJJ) turning around and watching an opponents shot miss and the guy you shouldve boxed out gets the rebound and scores? If there is.....JJJ is the best.

When Luke boxes his guy out for 4 seconds so JJJ can grab the ball--jj gets the rebound stat right?
I see Jj get burned on his rebounding EVERY single game.
I love JJJs game--very solid.....except for his rebounding which is brutal--whether stats bear that out or not.

Let's talk about Markus Howard rebounding. Or maybe ANY recruit that isn't currently signed by Marquette. Which would also serve the purpose of keeping this thread on track.

Maybe create a superbar topic about who knows more about rebounding based on their middle school/high school success?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: brandx on March 11, 2016, 04:36:48 PM
Back on the Markus thing for a moment.  So if he were to commit, do the experts here think he'd be an immediate contributor?  Asked another way, is it fair to think of him as a Frosh Haani or Vander able to be an immediate All-Frosh BEast type guy?  And if that's the case should we really anticipate a 4-1 line-up next year with JjJ manning the mini #4?  He has shown a willingness and ability to rebound from the #3.

I said in another thread that I think we are doomed if our forwards are JJJ, Cohen, Sacar, and Hauser. We are not a good enough shooting team to do that although the additions may be better shooters than what we have.

You have to be able to play defense and we will stop no one with Cohen and JJJ at PF.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: brandx on March 11, 2016, 04:39:59 PM
Statistically you're wrong.  He's 3rd best on the team per 40 minutes play of our top 7 rotation.  I excluded Wally but admit that he is a far superior rebounder than JjJ.

That's more of an indictment of the other guys - not a feather in JJJ's hat - even though he has gotten better.

But with all these guards people are ignoring the big question. Can we get more than 20 - 22 minutes a game from Fischer?

We need to bring in a PF.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 11, 2016, 04:47:00 PM
JjJ is a 6'5" wing with an 11.2% DR%. Is that "bad"? It certainly isn't good.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 12, 2016, 08:15:29 AM
Let's talk about Markus Howard rebounding. Or maybe ANY recruit that isn't currently signed by Marquette. Which would also serve the purpose of keeping this thread on track.

Maybe create a superbar topic about who knows more about rebounding based on their middle school/high school success?

You're right.  Let's get/stay on track.  Somebody can start a thread on rebounding if they want.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 12, 2016, 08:43:48 AM
Missed this a couple weeks ago, but Jerry Meyer crystal balled Jordan Bowden to Tennessee after they offered
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 12, 2016, 08:44:31 AM
Missed this a couple weeks ago, but Jerry Meyer crystal balled Jordan Bowden to Tennessee after they offered

Oh that cristal bowel! Such great analysis and insight it provides!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 12, 2016, 08:47:40 AM
Oh that cristal bowel! Such great analysis and insight it provides!

I wouldn't have mentioned it if it wasn't Jerry Meyer who is the most plugged in recruiting analyst out of that state.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 12, 2016, 08:55:32 AM
I have to completely disagree--JJJ is a baaaaddddd rebounder. In fairness to him, he is being asked to rebound as if he were more of a 4 and he is not. Every game he did not box out on the weakside and his man either got the rebound or was fouled via a push in the back after he got inside JJJ. I love JJJ, but his rebounding is brutal.


+11
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: buckchuckler on March 12, 2016, 09:45:29 AM
Oh that cristal bowel! Such great analysis and insight it provides!

We get that you hate them.  You don't have to post it every time.  Geesh.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: We R Final Four on March 12, 2016, 09:51:30 AM
That's nothing--post something about FG% if you want to get a reaction from JB.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 12, 2016, 04:39:04 PM
Anyone been out to any HS games today & seen Wojo or the assistants? Would assume they are at the SPASH & Whitnall games right now.

TWC (who's broadcasting the Whitnall game) tweeted pictures of Darner, Jeter, & Gard at the game.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: brewcity77 on March 12, 2016, 04:46:40 PM
Anyone been out to any HS games today & seen Wojo or the assistants? Would assume they are at the SPASH & Whitnall games right now.

TWC (who's broadcasting the Whitnall game) tweeted pictures of Darner, Jeter, & Gard at the game.

He watched Terrance Lewis at Riverside earlier today.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 12, 2016, 04:55:51 PM
He watched Terrance Lewis at Riverside earlier today.

As always, thank you BrewCity77
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: We R Final Four on March 12, 2016, 04:57:00 PM
Wojo and Brett Nelson at the Whitnall game.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 12, 2016, 06:21:51 PM
He watched Terrance Lewis at Riverside earlier today.

Was at the Whitnall game.  Sat right next to Wojo and Brett Nelson.  Got a picture with both of them.

Gard was there as well.  Walked in and he was buying a ticket right in front of me.  Said, "Congrats Gard" and he said, "Thank you" as he looked up, only then seeing my Marquette sweatshirt.  Turned and walked away quickly as I said, "Go Marquette."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 12, 2016, 06:23:37 PM
Watched the stream cast of Stevens Point vs Appleton West.  Sam Hauser is the real deal.  Smooth player.  Beautiful stroke.  Very good defender.  Good shot blocker.  He scored 20 points.  Will definitely help Marquette next year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 12, 2016, 06:26:29 PM
Watched the stream cast of Stevens Point vs Appleton West.  Sam Hauser is the real deal.  Smooth player.  Beautiful stroke.  Very good defender.  Good shot blocker.  He scored 20 points.  Will definitely help Marquette next year.

Saw UW sent an assistant to the SPASH game. Safe to assume Carrawell / Stan were at the game as well.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: brandx on March 12, 2016, 06:38:58 PM
Was at the Whitnall game. 

Gard was there as well.  Walked in and he was buying a ticket right in front of me.  Said, "Congrats Gard" and he said, "Thank you" as he looked up, only then seeing my Marquette sweatshirt.  Turned and walked away quickly as I said, "Go Marquette."

Would be interested in your opinion.

This is the first time I have seen Herro play. He reminded me of a guard/wing version of Henry. I don't mean he will be that good or a top 10 player as a senior, but his court awareness and basketball IQ are off the charts. Sees the entire floor extremely well. He will be an offensive force wherever he ends up playing.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: brandx on March 12, 2016, 06:41:02 PM
Anyone been out to any HS games today & seen Wojo or the assistants? Would assume they are at the SPASH & Whitnall games right now.

TWC (who's broadcasting the Whitnall game) tweeted pictures of Darner, Jeter, & Gard at the game.

Think Darner might have been there for the Taylor kid at Whitnall. Don't think they will be in the running for Herro
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 12, 2016, 06:42:58 PM
Think Darner might have been there for the Taylor kid at Whitnall. Don't think they will be in the running for Herro

I know they were there for the previous game watching Diener
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 12, 2016, 06:53:02 PM
Would be interested in your opinion.

This is the first time I have seen Herro play. He reminded me of a guard/wing version of Henry. I don't mean he will be that good or a top 10 player as a senior, but his court awareness and basketball IQ are off the charts. Sees the entire floor extremely well. He will be an offensive force wherever he ends up playing.

His ability to keep his defender on his hip while advancing the ball with the dribble reminded me a lot of how Hank used to be able to do so in high school.  He handles the ball better with his off hand than some D1 guards do with their dominant hand.

Overall he seems to try to play a lot like Bronson Koenig did in high school.  Better shooter/quicker release.  Long and uses it to get to the rim well.  Have seen him play before and I didn't think he played very well today compared to what I've seen from him in the past.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: brandx on March 12, 2016, 09:21:04 PM
His ability to keep his defender on his hip while advancing the ball with the dribble reminded me a lot of how Hank used to be able to do so in high school.  He handles the ball better with his off hand than some D1 guards do with their dominant hand.

Overall he seems to try to play a lot like Bronson Koenig did in high school.  Better shooter/quicker release.  Long and uses it to get to the rim well.  Have seen him play before and I didn't think he played very well today compared to what I've seen from him in the past.

Thanks Wade.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on March 12, 2016, 10:16:12 PM
Was at the Whitnall game.  Sat right next to Wojo and Brett Nelson.  Got a picture with both of them.

Gard was there as well.  Walked in and he was buying a ticket right in front of me.  Said, "Congrats Gard" and he said, "Thank you" as he looked up, only then seeing my Marquette sweatshirt.  Turned and walked away quickly as I said, "Go Marquette."

::)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 14, 2016, 02:43:46 PM
I'm feeling confident. Time to break out the name change. Following Big Daddy and Wades' lead of course
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 14, 2016, 04:04:21 PM
I'm feeling confident. Time to break out the name change. Following Big Daddy and Wades' lead of course

I am cautiously optimistic. Interesting to see that things are "warmer" for MUBB on Fernando as well. No predictions yet, but they are recognizing the press by the coaching staff.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: oldwarrior81 on March 14, 2016, 04:35:48 PM

TWC (who's broadcasting the Whitnall game) tweeted pictures of Darner, Jeter, & Gard at the game.

Darner and Jeter were at the Cedarburg / Kaukauna game in Menasha.    In addition to Diener at Cedarburg, Kaukauna has McCabe.

Those that remember, John Diener's father Coach Tom Diener played at UWGB when they were a dominant D2 team in the late 70's.  The 1978 team only lost twice, the D2 national championship game to Coach John Chaney at Cheyney State and a 55-49 loss at DePaul, which went onto the Elite 8 that season. 

Diener was elected to the UWGB Hall Of Fame. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MU82 on March 14, 2016, 04:37:27 PM
I'm feeling confident. Time to break out the name change. Following Big Daddy and Wades' lead of course

Just for the record, I didn't change my name and Henry chose the Warriors, so I ain't fixin' what ain't broke!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 14, 2016, 04:45:13 PM
I am cautiously optimistic. Interesting to see that things are "warmer" for MUBB on Fernando as well. No predictions yet, but they are recognizing the press by the coaching staff.

Fernando would be a big get. I'm not optimistic there. If he sets a visit date, I'll start to believe.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 14, 2016, 05:46:56 PM
Kalif young took an unofficial visit to Vanderbilt and got to hang with the players & coaches. Orangeville was playing in TN, hence the easy unofficial.

He plans on taking an Official visit there after the season. Still wide open


(Per rivals)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Marcus92 on March 15, 2016, 10:56:00 AM
I find Bruno Fernando from Monteverde Academy intriguing.

He's one of a handful of Top 100 bigs that haven't yet committed. Good size at 6'10" and 225 pounds. ESPN describes him as a "strong and physical post that runs the floor, finishes and rebounds on both ends and protects the rim with his shot blocking." Evan Daniels of Scout Hoops says he's "mobile, active, aggressive and takes pride in his effort on the defensive end of the floor."

Not a lot of information since December that I've seen. About a month ago, Zagsblog reported he'll make his decision soon (without mentioning a date) and that the frontrunners "appear to be SMU, Alabama, LSU, Marquette, N.C. State and Florida State" (a pretty large and diverse group).

Wonder if he's waiting to see which college players declare for the draft — and where his best opportunity is?

At Marquette and LSU, Ellenson and Ben Simmons are both projected as top 10 picks. SMU's a good team, but Jordan Tolbert (6-7/240, 11.6 ppg, 8.5 rpg) and Ben Moore (6-8/205, 11.9 ppg, 7.4 rpg) seem to hold down the front court. I don't know what the deal is with the others. Florida St. and N.C. State finished 11th and 13th in the ACC, respectively. Alabama was 10th in the SEC. Not exactly competitive basketball schools.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 15, 2016, 12:02:31 PM
I find Bruno Fernando from Monteverde Academy intriguing.

Not a lot of information since December that I've seen. About a month ago, Zagsblog reported he'll make his decision soon (without mentioning a date) and that the frontrunners "appear to be SMU, Alabama, LSU, Marquette, N.C. State and Florida State" (a pretty large and diverse group).

Bruno took an official visit to Alabama a couple weeks ago. Some of the premium articles I have read, peg Bama as the front runners.

FSU & SMU both recently added 2016 big men in the last month. Which might affect their recruitment levels.

Bruno still needs to get qualifying scores. As of last month he still had not taken the ACT/SAT.

Both Bruno & Kalif are going to be waiting for quite some time it seems. But both are worth the wait, for whichever school they decide on
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 15, 2016, 12:25:24 PM
Bruno took an official visit to Alabama a couple weeks ago. Some of the premium articles I have read, peg Bama as the front runners.

FSU & SMU both recently added 2016 big men in the last month. Which might affect their recruitment levels.

Bruno still needs to get qualifying scores. As of last month he still had not taken the ACT/SAT.

Both Bruno & Kalif are going to be waiting for quite some time it seems. But both are worth the wait, for whichever school they decide on

Seems like trying for a grad transfer PF first while still recruiting Bruno and Young would be a sound strategy.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Marcus92 on March 15, 2016, 01:26:53 PM
Bruno took an official visit to Alabama a couple weeks ago. Some of the premium articles I have read, peg Bama as the front runners.

FSU & SMU both recently added 2016 big men in the last month. Which might affect their recruitment levels.

Bruno still needs to get qualifying scores. As of last month he still had not taken the ACT/SAT.

Both Bruno & Kalif are going to be waiting for quite some time it seems. But both are worth the wait, for whichever school they decide on.

Thanks for the info. I know recruiting predictions are about as speculative as speculative gets. But for some inexplicable reason, I feel better just knowing we're in the running for some top new talent. (Actually landing them is, of course, even better.)

Not too far now from April when Howard said he would announce.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: moomoo on March 15, 2016, 02:00:12 PM
I'm just as interested in Eugene Omoruyi.

You want a junk yard dog?

Think Jamil Wilson with an attitude would be useful?

Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 15, 2016, 03:14:50 PM
Woo must recruit dominant players to win in the Big East.  Tough big men who can rebound on both ends of the court and guards who can shoot and slash.  He's got to make this team tougher.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on March 15, 2016, 03:17:37 PM
Woo must recruit dominant players to win in the Big East.  Tough big men who can rebound on both ends of the court and guards who can shoot and slash.  He's got to make this team tougher.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/norbertobriceno/woo-woo-woo-woo-wooooooo#.wnGbA9jqq
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 15, 2016, 06:12:50 PM
Markus Howard tweet from a couple hours ago (let's not over react, likely means nothing). Figured I would atleast post it here:

https://twitter.com/markushoward11/status/709834175784718336
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 15, 2016, 06:19:37 PM
Markus Howard tweet from a couple hours ago (let's not over react, likely means nothing). Figured I would atleast post it here:

https://twitter.com/markushoward11/status/709834175784718336

Wouldn't read too much into that photo.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: BM1090 on March 15, 2016, 06:21:28 PM
Also nothing to read into, but of the schools he visited recently, the only one that he followed any players from was Marquette. Followed Haanif, Henry and Sam. Nobody from Baylor, ASU (although that may be further down) or UCA
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Cooby Snacks on March 15, 2016, 06:27:07 PM
And really, if he goes to UCA, what can you do besides shrug your shoulders? We've seen in MU's very recent recruiting history that the family thing can be a major factor.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 15, 2016, 06:27:37 PM
Markus Howard tweet from a couple hours ago (let's not over react, likely means nothing). Figured I would atleast post it here:

https://twitter.com/markushoward11/status/709834175784718336

The older Howard's transferring into MU?! Who is transferring out to make room in the backcourt?!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 15, 2016, 06:36:56 PM
Wouldn't read too much into that photo.

That's what I tried to say :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 15, 2016, 07:14:02 PM
That's what I tried to say :)

Sorry 'bout that.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 15, 2016, 07:24:03 PM
The older Howard's transferring into MU?! Who is transferring out to make room in the backcourt?!

That's what I got from the photo.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MUVander on March 15, 2016, 08:59:51 PM
If Henry somehow comes back we have no scholarships left for next year barring any unknown transfers, correct?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on March 15, 2016, 09:18:12 PM
If Henry somehow comes back we have no scholarships left for next year barring any unknown transfers, correct?

We would have one. Bailey is going on Mormon mission.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: MUVander on March 15, 2016, 09:20:35 PM
Interesting, didn't even know that. So we won't have Bailey til 2018? 2 year mission?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: GGGG on March 15, 2016, 09:21:44 PM
Interesting, didn't even know that. So we won't have Bailey til 2018? 2 year mission?

Yes.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 16, 2016, 09:42:27 AM
Wake Forest announced that 7' Andre Washington will transfer (he is supposed to graduate this spring)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Litehouse on March 16, 2016, 10:25:10 AM
Wake Forest announced that 7' Andre Washington will transfer (he is supposed to graduate this spring)
Looks like an odd situation.  Didn't really play much his first 3 years and redshirted his senior year.
http://www.journalnow.com/sports/wfu/basketball/wake-s-washington-redshirting-senior-season/article_18e9b6c6-0dd5-5370-9e03-d01cef0a9cee.html
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 16, 2016, 10:28:47 AM
The older Howard's transferring into MU?! Who is transferring out to make room in the backcourt?!

Three sub 6 foot guards on the 2017-18 team would be entertaining.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: BM1090 on March 16, 2016, 11:57:47 AM
Three sub 6 foot guards on the 2017-18 team would be entertaining.

We already will have that.....it would be 4 with Howard's brother (Both Howards, Carter, Rowsey.) Unless you're giving Carter the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 16, 2016, 12:12:15 PM
We already will have that.....it would be 4 with Howard's brother (Both Howards, Carter, Rowsey.) Unless you're giving Carter the benefit of the doubt.

I was. He's probably 6 foot, but shortly after posting I thought the same thing.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 16, 2016, 06:51:10 PM
Rivals posted a national article on Jordan Bowden with scouting breakdowns & interviews from his coaches. 22 ft academy finishes up next week in Kansas for national championships.

Recruiting wise it mentioned Cincy & Utah pushed for in season visits but Bowden schedule didn't match up. Mentioned Tennessee might be favorite at this point.

He wants to take visits ASAP after his season wraps up
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: BM1090 on March 16, 2016, 07:00:47 PM
Rivals posted a national article on Jordan Bowden with scouting breakdowns & interviews from his coaches. 22 ft academy finishes up next week in Kansas for national championships.

Recruiting wise it mentioned Cincy & Utah pushed for in season visits but Bowden schedule didn't match up. Mentioned Tennessee might be favorite at this point.

He wants to take visits ASAP after his season wraps up

I'm guessing, with no inside info, that we're not really in the mix for Bowden. Seem to be focusing on Howard and Fernando right now.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: forgetful on March 16, 2016, 09:00:44 PM
I was. He's probably 6 foot, but shortly after posting I thought the same thing.

Traci's listed at either 6' or 6'1 everywhere. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Marcus92 on March 16, 2016, 11:02:20 PM
Traci's listed at either 6' or 6'1 everywhere.

Marquette lists Traci at 6'0" — which is probably his measurement with shoes. My guess is that without shoes, he's somewhere between 5'10.5" and 5'11".

Marquette listed Travis Diener at 6'1" (the same as his NBA pre-draft measurement with shoes). Without shoes, he measured 5'11.75".
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: forgetful on March 16, 2016, 11:13:22 PM
Marquette lists Traci at 6'0" — which is probably his measurement with shoes. My guess is that without shoes, he's somewhere between 5'10.5" and 5'11".

Marquette listed Travis Diener at 6'1" (the same as his NBA pre-draft measurement with shoes). Without shoes, he measured 5'11.75".

Everyone lists height with shoes, half the time they add an extra inch to that.  I'm 6'0" barefoot, but coaches always listed me as 6'3".

Since everyone does that it doesn't matter what height they really are, since it is all comparative.  So only the listed heights matter for comparative purposes.  So Carter is not under 6'
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: brewcity77 on March 17, 2016, 07:14:18 AM
Wake Forest announced that 7' Andre Washington will transfer (he is supposed to graduate this spring)

I'd take a pass. Washington was a project big man who couldn't put it together for three years, redshirted a fourth year, and if he's leaving now, I assume he still hasn't put it together. Who knows, maybe he's the next Joe Uchebo, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: LAMUfan on March 17, 2016, 08:12:12 AM
Everyone lists height with shoes, half the time they add an extra inch to that.  I'm 6'0" barefoot, but coaches always listed me as 6'3".


I always like to do that in my head while watching basketball.  So I'm 6'4", so 6'7" if I was playing basketball and I'm like sweet I'm tall!  then I realize I've dunked like 3 times in my life and then I just feel sad. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 17, 2016, 08:13:30 AM
ZFB is 6'2" in his 6 inch heels
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 17, 2016, 08:56:33 AM
Or in his platform sneakers, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 17, 2016, 10:28:29 AM
So much for this thread.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on March 17, 2016, 01:01:22 PM
So much for this thread.

It ain't the size it's the motion!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Windyplayer on March 17, 2016, 01:05:42 PM
I always like to do that in my head while watching basketball.  So I'm 6'4", so 6'7" if I was playing basketball and I'm like sweet I'm tall!  then I realize I've dunked like 3 times in my life and then I just feel sad.
#HumbleBrag
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2016, 04:38:39 PM
Awful uniforms and another 1st round choke.

Hopefully Howard saw that!!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 17, 2016, 04:39:29 PM
Awful uniforms and another 1st round choke.

Hopefully Howard saw that!!

Well, to be fair....that's one round further than MU got.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2016, 05:00:21 PM
Well, to be fair....that's one round further than MU got.

Routine first round chokes don't look good.

Come and build the winning program back up!!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 17, 2016, 05:58:42 PM
We're gonna make the Warriors great again, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: 4everCrean on March 17, 2016, 06:04:12 PM
We're gonna win so much, people are going to get tired of winning.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 17, 2016, 09:46:06 PM
We're gonna win so much, people are going to get tired of winning.

We're gonna win over much Adam Scott will be jealous.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: BM1090 on March 18, 2016, 12:38:06 PM
Hodge switched his Howard pick back to MU. Guessing it's down to Marquette and Central Arkansas at this point.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 18, 2016, 12:40:04 PM
Hodge switched his Howard pick back to MU. Guessing it's down to Marquette and Central Arkansas at this point.

I'm guessing its down to whether or not he'll be a Warrior in 2016 or 2017
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: brewcity77 on March 18, 2016, 05:51:13 PM
Hodge switched his Howard pick back to MU. Guessing it's down to Marquette and Central Arkansas at this point.

Guessing it didn't help Baylor's chances when Howard's lead recruiter left Baylor to take the head coaching job at Arkansas State.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: 4everCrean on March 18, 2016, 05:54:14 PM
Guessing it didn't help Baylor's chances when Howard's lead recruiter left Baylor to take the head coaching job at Arkansas State.

Thank God it wasn't Central Arkansas!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 18, 2016, 05:59:04 PM
Hodge switched his Howard pick back to MU. Guessing it's down to Marquette and Central Arkansas at this point.

That's a good sign. Hodge is a serious Baylor homer, so he (or she?) must have received some significant news.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 18, 2016, 06:05:02 PM
That's a good sign. Hodge is a serious Baylor homer, so he (or she?) must have received some significant news.

He. And you are correct about him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 18, 2016, 07:07:07 PM
Hodge switched his Howard pick back to MU. Guessing it's down to Marquette and Central Arkansas at this point.

Can someone explain to me how Central Arkansas fits into all of this?  I haven't read the background, so I apologize if this has been stated. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 18, 2016, 07:14:37 PM


Brother Plays there.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 18, 2016, 07:59:06 PM
Can someone explain to me how Central Arkansas fits into all of this?  I haven't read the background, so I apologize if this has been stated.

Howard's older brother is their star player. Took an official visit there but its hard to imagine a top 30 kid going to the Southland
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 18, 2016, 07:59:28 PM
So when will he announce?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 18, 2016, 08:05:02 PM
So when will he announce?
Supposedly April.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 18, 2016, 08:05:16 PM
So when will he announce?

April. My guess is he wants to get his reclassification taken care of before announcing. Dad has said he's a 4.0 student so it shouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 18, 2016, 08:56:14 PM
Seems to me that if a kid has legitimate NBA aspirations then reclassifying to a 2016 makes perfect sense.  One year earlier to the show regardless of how many years you play in college.

I think I recall that Markus would only remain a '17 if no quality option were available this year.  My sense is that he's crossed that hurdle already.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 18, 2016, 09:08:35 PM
Howard has NBA potential but not NBA height. Unfortunate for him but it likely means he's a four year player
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 18, 2016, 11:14:54 PM
Howard has NBA potential but not NBA height. Unfortunate for him but it likely means he's a four year player

Tell that to Tyler Ullis.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 18, 2016, 11:17:06 PM
Tell that to Tyler Ullis.

When he gets drafted, I'll tweet him
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 22, 2016, 06:45:40 PM
Finally some recruiting news... Sounds like Jordan Bowden to announce his commitment to Tennessee tonight
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: 4everCrean on March 22, 2016, 06:49:11 PM
Finally some recruiting news... Sounds like Jordan Bowden to announce his commitment to Tennessee tonight

Crean to Ann Arbor cooled on him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: jsglow on March 22, 2016, 07:00:49 PM
Hadn't heard much about him in awhile.  I don't think anyone is surprised.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 22, 2016, 10:35:09 PM
Wojo started following Christian Vital. 2016 point guard who recently opened up from UNLV.

Per his twitter Avery Johnson visited him today & he talked with Rick Pitino & Fran McCaffrey also.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Herman Cain on March 22, 2016, 10:41:21 PM
Wojo started following Christian Vital. 2016 point guard who recently opened up from UNLV.

Per his twitter Avery Johnson visited him today & he talked with Rick Pitino & Fran McCaffrey also.
Will be interesting to see how Wojo competes head up against Avery on the recruiting trail.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 23, 2016, 06:39:49 AM
Good luck at UT Jordan. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: warriorchick on March 23, 2016, 07:59:53 AM
Good luck at UT Jordan.

But stay away from our niece.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 23, 2016, 08:26:26 AM
Finally some recruiting news... Sounds like Jordan Bowden to announce his commitment to Tennessee tonight


 maybe they got a little help from the "Louisville ladies" eyn'a. Never under estimate a good tooter ;D
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2016, 09:19:33 AM
Was there a 2nd possible big we were in on for 2016?  I'm trying to look back but can't find it.  We're in on Bruno Fernando and...?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GGGG on March 23, 2016, 09:21:03 AM
Was there a 2nd possible big we were in on for 2016?  I'm trying to look back but can't find it.  We're in on Bruno Fernando and...?


Kalif Young. 

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/kalif-young
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Windyplayer on March 23, 2016, 09:29:48 AM
Wojo started following Christian Vital. 2016 point guard who recently opened up from UNLV.

Per his twitter Avery Johnson visited him today & he talked with Rick Pitino & Fran McCaffrey also.
TALK:
1.to communicate or exchange ideas, information, etc., by speaking:
to talk about poetry.
2.to consult or confer:Talk with your adviser.
3.to spread a rumor or tell a confidence; gossip.
4.to chatter or prate.
5.to employ speech; perform the act of speaking:to talk very softly; to talk into a microphone.
6.to deliver a speech, lecture, etc.:
The professor talked on the uses of comedy in the tragedies of Shakespeare.
7.to give or reveal confidential or incriminating information:
After a long interrogation, the spy finally talked.
8. to provide escorts for sexual relations.

Wait a second.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2016, 09:45:33 AM

Kalif Young. 

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/kalif-young

Thank you.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 23, 2016, 09:52:46 AM
I have added Gordon.  Agree that he appears to be Howard's back-up option.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 23, 2016, 12:29:06 PM
ASU's Savon Goodman will transfer--eligble immediately. Averaged 10 and 6 this year. Wonder if the ASU-Marquette pipeline could work there?  He's a bit small for  PF position, however.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MUfan12 on March 23, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
ASU's Savon Goodman will transfer--eligble immediately. Averaged 10 and 6 this year. Wonder if the ASU-Marquette pipeline could work there?  He's a bit small for  PF position, however.

Rebounds like a MFer. Has some baggage, though.

Stan Johnson would know whether or not to pursue.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 23, 2016, 12:51:55 PM
Rebounds like a MFer. Has some baggage, though.

Stan Johnson would know whether or not to pursue.

That's why I think we'd have an inside track if Stan wants him. He's a blue collar dude by the rim.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on March 23, 2016, 12:52:31 PM
Rebounds like a MFer. Has some baggage, though.

Stan Johnson would know whether or not to pursue.

I would think this might be the one for MU if Stan Johnson says go for it,  he would fit in perfectly.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: KampusFoods on March 23, 2016, 12:58:09 PM
ASU's Savon Goodman will transfer--eligble immediately. Averaged 10 and 6 this year. Wonder if the ASU-Marquette pipeline could work there?  He's a bit small for  PF position, however.

Think this would be a really nice get for the staff. Unless SJ has reservations about him, I would be surprised if we are not on the early list of schools reaching out.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GGGG on March 23, 2016, 01:10:36 PM
Rebounds like a MFer. Has some baggage, though.

Stan Johnson would know whether or not to pursue.


Some baggage?  Originally committed to Nova.  Decommited and ended up at UNLV.  He was arrested for felony burglary that was eventually plead down to a misdemeanor when he was at UNLV.  He then missed four games this past year at ASU for rules violations.

I mean, at least he didn't kill anybody.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 23, 2016, 01:12:46 PM
Rebounds like a MFer. Has some baggage, though.

Stan Johnson would know whether or not to pursue.


6 boards/game is not mf'er hood, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 23, 2016, 01:13:33 PM

Some baggage?  Originally committed to Nova.  Decommited and ended up at UNLV.  He was arrested for felony burglary that was eventually plead down to a misdemeanor when he was at UNLV.  He then missed four games this past year at ASU for rules violations.

I mean, at least he didn't kill anybody.

No way on this Kid!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: KampusFoods on March 23, 2016, 01:14:19 PM
I did not know those things about Goodman.

Other news. Exodus at USC.

3 transfers: Malik Price-Martin, Darion Clark, and my favorite Malik Marquetti. None were contributors this year, but I had to add it to this because of that name.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Pakuni on March 23, 2016, 01:24:36 PM
Twitter tracker:

Andrew Slater @ASlater247
#Marquette will be visiting with Christian Vital @I_AMCV today. Vital is one of the top available guards in 2016.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: fjm on March 23, 2016, 01:26:03 PM
Tightening the screws on Howard to make a decision?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 23, 2016, 01:33:58 PM
Tightening the screws on Howard to make a decision?

Perhaps. Can't kick back, put your feet up, and assume Howard is MU-bound. That's a great way to be left empty handed.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 23, 2016, 01:39:07 PM

6 boards/game is not mf'er hood, hey?

6.4 rpg when you only play 21 minutes a game is mf'er good
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 23, 2016, 01:40:39 PM

Some baggage?  Originally committed to Nova.  Decommited and ended up at UNLV.  He was arrested for felony burglary that was eventually plead down to a misdemeanor when he was at UNLV.  He then missed four games this past year at ASU for rules violations.

I mean, at least he didn't kill anybody.

This does sound like too much baggage. But Stan Johnson did help recruit him to Arizona State even after the burglary. Doesn't mean he'd recommend him now, but if Stan Johnson gave the thumbs up I could see Wojo making a run at him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 23, 2016, 01:40:52 PM
Quite possible Howard gave Wojo da old Jones. Always keep recruitin', hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: brandx on March 23, 2016, 01:41:30 PM
Tightening the screws on Howard to make a decision?

No. "Tightening screws" is not a successful recruiting strategy.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 23, 2016, 01:43:55 PM
Tightening the screws on Howard to make a decision?

I'm more confident on Howard coming to Marquette than I am that every other guard on our roster will return for next season.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 23, 2016, 01:50:03 PM
I'm more confident on Howard coming to Marquette than I am that every other guard on our roster will return for next season.

Sure hope you're right. I am nervous about that given the staff's movement on guards all of a sudden.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 23, 2016, 02:03:40 PM
I'm more confident on Howard coming to Marquette than I am that every other guard on our roster will return for next season.

Cheatham declaring?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MuMark on March 23, 2016, 02:19:50 PM
Cheatham declaring?

Come on.....with the new rules anybody can get feedback which they can use going forward but Cheatham has no chance of being drafted this year.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 23, 2016, 02:32:07 PM
No. "Tightening screws" is not a successful recruiting strategy.

Neither is sitting back and assuming you have a kid all locked up.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GGGG on March 23, 2016, 02:34:04 PM
Neither is sitting back and assuming you have a kid all locked up.


Of course there is a middle ground between "tightening the screws" and "sitting back."

Due diligence to make sure all bases are covered.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 23, 2016, 02:35:27 PM

Of course there is a middle ground between "tightening the screws" and "sitting back."

Due diligence to make sure all bases are covered.

Absolutely. That's all I'm suggesting.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 23, 2016, 03:36:17 PM
OT:
Evan Daniels ‏@EvanDaniels  4h4 hours ago Kentucky, USA
Providence PF Ben Bentil will declare for the NBA Draft, but not sign with an agent, a source told Scout. Leaves option open to return.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 23, 2016, 03:43:22 PM
Good stuff here guys.  Let's try to keep this to the HS kids.  We've got a darn good Transfer thread going here too.  I'm still convinced that we're Markus' top choice but Wojo needs to keep the ball moving forward.  We do need another PG regardless because Haani is so much better suited to the #2 and he might be one of our main options next year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 23, 2016, 03:53:57 PM
Good stuff here guys.  Let's try to keep this to the HS kids.  We've got a darn good Transfer thread going here too.  I'm still convinced that we're Markus' top choice but Wojo needs to keep the ball moving forward.  We do need another PG regardless because Haani is so much better suited to the #2 and he might be one of our main options next year.

Sorry. I let it get off track when I posted the transfer information. Will make sure I keep it to that thread.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 23, 2016, 04:11:30 PM
Christian CV Vital ‏@I_AMCV  39m39 minutes ago
Appreciate coach Wojo coming in today! #Marquette

Andrew Slater @ASlater247
#Marquette will be visiting with Christian Vital @I_AMCV today. Vital is one of the top available guards in 2016.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on March 23, 2016, 04:27:30 PM
Christian CV Vital ‏@I_AMCV  39m39 minutes ago
Appreciate coach Wojo coming in today! #Marquette

Andrew Slater @ASlater247
#Marquette will be visiting with Christian Vital @I_AMCV today. Vital is one of the top available guards in 2016.

If Wojo is looking at another guard, it might mean Howard is a very big question mark??
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GGGG on March 23, 2016, 04:28:35 PM
If Wojo is looking at another guard, it might mean Howard is a very big question mark??


As TAMU said, I think it might mean a transfer more than anything.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 23, 2016, 04:31:48 PM
If Wojo is looking at another guard, it might mean Howard is a very big question mark??

Wojo has said you can never have too many players who:
*are quality people
*can handle the ball
*can shoot the ball

Always be recruiting!  It could mean a possible transfer or a backup plan for Howard.  Will be interesting to see how things work out.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 23, 2016, 05:04:58 PM
I think Wojo really wants 13 scholly players in uniform next year.  Maybe one gets to red shirt.  But never stop recruiting.  This'll work out.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 23, 2016, 05:31:13 PM
Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but who was the JUCO big man that Stan allegedly visited last week?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Cooby Snacks on March 23, 2016, 05:37:02 PM
Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but who was the JUCO big man that Stan allegedly visited last week?

Kavell Bigby-Williams. Apparently a heavy Oregon lean. http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2016/03/kavell_bigby-williams_4-star_j.html
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 23, 2016, 05:40:15 PM
Kavell Bigby-Williams. Apparently a heavy Oregon lean. http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2016/03/kavell_bigby-williams_4-star_j.html

That was quick. Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 23, 2016, 05:56:48 PM
April. My guess is he wants to get his reclassification taken care of before announcing. Dad has said he's a 4.0 student so it shouldn't be an issue.
[/quote

A great GPA does not replace course requirements.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 2/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 23, 2016, 06:05:06 PM
April. My guess is he wants to get his reclassification taken care of before announcing. Dad has said he's a 4.0 student so it shouldn't be an issue.
[/quote

A great GPA does not replace course requirements.

I'll rephrase. I'm fairly certain it won't be an issue.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 23, 2016, 06:25:47 PM
This does sound like too much baggage. But Stan Johnson did help recruit him to Arizona State even after the burglary. Doesn't mean he'd recommend him now, but if Stan Johnson gave the thumbs up I could see Wojo making a run at him.

This would be over the top squirmy and "Just win, baby" to some. Hell, the Chico posse might rip Stan Johnson for recruiting the kid BEFORE he got in trouble. I'd love to see it just to watch their collective heads explode.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 23, 2016, 07:28:46 PM
Jordan Bowden
Darrell Bowie
Euguene Omoruyi
Kalif Young
Eron Gordon
Markus Howard
Christian Vital
Bruno Fernando
Kavell Bigby-Williams
Tyson Jolly

Wojo and the coaches are very busy for 1 opening
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 23, 2016, 07:48:04 PM
Jordan Bowden
Darrell Bowie
Euguene Omoruyi
Kalif Young
Eron Gordon
Markus Howard
Christian Vital
Bruno Fernando
Kavell Bigby-Williams
Tyson Jolly

Wojo and the coaches are very busy for 1 opening

Well you got to operate as if Henry is gone. So two spots. And prepping for a possible transfer is always good practice. I mean, what else do the coaches have to do right now?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 23, 2016, 08:03:14 PM
Well you got to operate as if Henry is gone. So two spots. And prepping for a possible transfer is always good practice. I mean, what else do the coaches have to do right now?

I was simply stating the obvious. Coaches are busy around the country
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: brewcity77 on March 23, 2016, 09:59:04 PM
Kavell Bigby-Williams. Apparently a heavy Oregon lean. http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2016/03/kavell_bigby-williams_4-star_j.html

Marquette connection here. Bigby-Williams plays for Gillette College with Marqueese Grayson, who happens to be the cousin of Jimmy Butler. Butler has gone out to Wyoming to see the Pronghorns play and I saw a photo on Instagram of him with Bigby-Williams. No idea if that would help our cause as it's a different staff, but there is a little bit of a connection.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on March 23, 2016, 10:31:27 PM
Marquette connection here. Bigby-Williams plays for Gillette College with Marqueese Grayson, who happens to be the cousin of Jimmy Butler. Butler has gone out to Wyoming to see the Pronghorns play and I saw a photo on Instagram of him with Bigby-Williams. No idea if that would help our cause as it's a different staff, but there is a little bit of a connection.

If anything you can see the commitment the basketball team has financially to run all over the place, that is for sure.  Lots of crystal balls for Oregon, if he visits MU
then they might have a chance.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 23, 2016, 10:51:02 PM
NM
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Herman Cain on March 23, 2016, 10:59:11 PM
ASU's Savon Goodman will transfer--eligble immediately. Averaged 10 and 6 this year. Wonder if the ASU-Marquette pipeline could work there?  He's a bit small for  PF position, however.
He can play.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MUWarrior4Life on March 24, 2016, 07:28:38 AM
UWM AD Amanda Braun put a restriction on 3 UWM players seeking to transfer, no Horizon League team and Marquette
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 24, 2016, 08:00:49 AM
Is this where some of y'all are at? Lamentin' the fact that we can't sign UWM playas? Pathetic, hey? But, keep reppin', ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GGGG on March 24, 2016, 08:16:32 AM
Is this where some of y'all are at? Lamentin' the fact that we can't sign UWM playas? Pathetic, hey? But, keep reppin', ai na?


No one said that.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 24, 2016, 08:30:30 AM
UWM AD Amanda Braun put a restriction on 3 UWM players seeking to transfer, no Horizon League team and Marquette

I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think you can actually put restrictions on graduate transfers, which two of those players are.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 25, 2016, 09:59:15 AM
Marquette connection here. Bigby-Williams plays for Gillette College with Marqueese Grayson, who happens to be the cousin of Jimmy Butler. Butler has gone out to Wyoming to see the Pronghorns play and I saw a photo on Instagram of him with Bigby-Williams. No idea if that would help our cause as it's a different staff, but there is a little bit of a connection.

Per @JucoRecruiting:

"Kavell Bigby-Williams considering four schools Oregon, Texas, San Diego St & Colorado. Oregon out in front"
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on March 25, 2016, 11:26:01 AM
Per @JucoRecruiting:

"Kavell Bigby-Williams considering four schools Oregon, Texas, San Diego St & Colorado. Oregon out in front"

Cross him off,  wonder if MU has a chance with the other bigs looked at?  It would be a shame if they could not entice one big in having the ability to start right away.
Then you have to question Wojo's ability to recruit, as there is a need right now!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MuMark on March 25, 2016, 11:54:47 AM
Cross him off,  wonder if MU has a chance with the other bigs looked at?  It would be a shame if they could not entice one big in having the ability to start right away.
Then you have to question Wojo's ability to recruit, as there is a need right now!

Yes lets question Wojo's ability to recruit.....even though he had a top 10 class and landed our first MCD All American in 30 years coming off a losing season in his first year as a head coach. 2 more top 100 kids in his 2nd class doesn't count either..... ::)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 25, 2016, 12:18:52 PM
Cross him off,  wonder if MU has a chance with the other bigs looked at?  It would be a shame if they could not entice one big in having the ability to start right away.
Then you have to question Wojo's ability to recruit, as there is a need right now!

Seeing as I never even put him on the list.......   ::)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on March 25, 2016, 12:36:12 PM
Yes lets question Wojo's ability to recruit.....even though he had a top 10 class and landed our first MCD All American in 30 years coming off a losing season in his first year as a head coach. 2 more top 100 kids in his 2nd class doesn't count either..... ::)

Unfortunately, what he did last year is over, did a great job of acquiring good players last year and one lottery pick.  But the team did not get into a tournament, which is
about top 100 or so.  Yes, it was probably due to the December scheduling fiasco.  But without a real replacement for Henry,  this team is not physically big enough at
most positions to compete at a higher level next year.  So in saying that, it is about recruiting.  A year from now MU is in the same position, what are you going to say
then, and you lose Luke next year.  Bottom Line, need some type of big.  Unless JJJ, Cheatham and Carter turn into Archie, Hart and Jenkins, then it does not matter.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 25, 2016, 12:38:40 PM
Yes lets question Wojo's ability to recruit.....even though he had a top 10 class and landed our first MCD All American in 30 years coming off a losing season in his first year as a head coach. 2 more top 100 kids in his 2nd class doesn't count either..... ::)

Not to mention that if he lands Howard, which I fully expect, we will have a top 15 class per 247
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: 4everCrean on March 25, 2016, 12:49:57 PM
Unfortunately, what he did last year is over, did a great job of acquiring good players last year and one lottery pick.  But the team did not get into a tournament, which is about top 100 or so.  Yes, it was probably due to the December scheduling fiasco.  But without a real replacement for Henry,  this team is not physically big enough at most positions to compete at a higher level next year.  So in saying that, it is about recruiting.  A year from now MU is in the same position, what are you going to say then, and you lose Luke next year.  Bottom Line, need some type of big.  Unless JJJ, Cheatham and Carter turn into Archie, Hart and Jenkins, then it does not matter.

Please remember to wake me up after the sky falls.

(https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa15/wp-content/uploads/sites/29639/2015/09/Yawning2-300x200.jpg)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on March 25, 2016, 12:56:11 PM
Not to mention that if he lands Howard, which I fully expect, we will have a top 15 class per 247

If he signs Howard which I expect him to do, it will be a nice class, to bad Bailey in my mind does not count as 3 years from now is along time.  But signing 2 under 6'
foot guards does not do it for me.  Its like the Packers not trying to replace what they need.  They have 4 needs and poor Ted will not bring in a veteran.  Probably 11
new players there, youngest team in football again.  You have to replace what you have lost, so far, they have not.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 25, 2016, 01:14:30 PM
If he signs Howard which I expect him to do, it will be a nice class, to bad Bailey in my mind does not count as 3 years from now is along time.  But signing 2 under 6'
foot guards does not do it for me.  Its like the Packers not trying to replace what they need.  They have 4 needs and poor Ted will not bring in a veteran.  Probably 11
new players there, youngest team in football again.  You have to replace what you have lost, so far, they have not.

I think Ted is doing pretty well too
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 25, 2016, 01:16:50 PM
'16 Christian Vital from St. Thomas More (CT)/PSA Cardinals is down to Alabama, Iowa, Louisville, Marquette & UCONN, his coach announced
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 25, 2016, 01:22:56 PM
'16 Christian Vital from St. Thomas More (CT)/PSA Cardinals is down to Alabama, Iowa, Louisville, Marquette & UCONN, his coach announced

My gut tells me it's uconn
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: 4everCrean on March 25, 2016, 01:27:21 PM
My gut tells me it's uconn

It's difficult on the ego to commit where you're the backup option which I suspect that Vital knows/feels he is to Howard at MU.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 25, 2016, 01:33:11 PM
My gut 247 tells me it's uconn

 ;) poor Rutgers btw
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Cooby Snacks on March 25, 2016, 01:47:11 PM
;) poor Rutgers btw

Lol Pikiell offered yesterday. Less than 24 hours for Vital to say "Nah."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: willie warrior on March 25, 2016, 04:28:32 PM
Just a hunch--no inside info. Think HE will stay one more year. That is the contrarian in me. If he was going pronow, why would he not have said so already?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: BM1090 on March 25, 2016, 04:39:43 PM
Just a hunch--no inside info. Think HE will stay one more year. That is the contrarian in me. If he was going pronow, why would he not have said so already?

This is my thought process as well. I don't necessarily think that he's staying, but he must be at least considering it. If he was 100% set on going we'd know already.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GGGG on March 25, 2016, 05:08:35 PM
Could simply be because he was waiting until spring break to talk it over with family. My guess is that we will know more next week.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Ruby on March 25, 2016, 05:17:25 PM
HE should at least declare and test the waters. Kind of foolish not to. If he doesn't hire an agent right away that is a good sign he might be thinking of coming back.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on March 25, 2016, 05:19:23 PM
He will put his name into the draft and not get an agent.  Then again, maybe he does not come back to school at all??  Guess know once somebody sees him on campus.
I would assume he will finish up the semester.  He has a lot to improve on, does he want to sit on the bench in the NBA, go back to your hotel and play video games on the road as he is to young to do anything else, now that sounds fun.  The money will be there, should comeback for another year but it is hard to say no.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MuMark on March 25, 2016, 05:21:54 PM
HE should at least declare and test the waters. Kind of foolish not to. If he doesn't hire an agent right away that is a good sign he might be thinking of coming back.

Why test the water when you already know the temperature?

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 25, 2016, 05:26:06 PM
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think you can actually put restrictions on graduate transfers, which two of those players are.

Not 100% sure either, but I do believe Section 14.5.5.2.10 (d) applies to those who quality for the one-time graduate transfer exception... under which the previous school must certify they take no issue with the exception..
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: willie warrior on March 25, 2016, 05:28:56 PM
Could simply be because he was waiting until spring break to talk it over with family. My guess is that we will know more next week.
Maybe--but he has plenty of time to do that already. Think he wants to see what current crop does, and what they get. Hell, he is projected anywhere from 5 to 12. Next year, he would be 1. That should be worth about 2-3 more million a year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GGGG on March 25, 2016, 05:49:12 PM
Henry will not be the #1 pick next year. Very likely either Tatum or Giles who will be freshman at Duke.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 25, 2016, 06:12:45 PM
He will put his name into the draft and not get an agent.  Then again, maybe he does not come back to school at all??  Guess know once somebody sees him on campus.
I would assume he will finish up the semester.  He has a lot to improve on, does he want to sit on the bench in the NBA, go back to your hotel and play video games on the road as he is to young to do anything else, now that sounds fun.  The money will be there, should comeback for another year but it is hard to say no.

How do you know the money will be there? A lot could happen. HE could suffer a significant injury. His game could regress. Give scouts more time and they'll poke more holes in your game. Happens a lot.

Go back to his room and play video games? That's probably what he does now. One difference: he'll be playing those video games with millions in the bank if he jumps to the NBA.

Easy to say he should come back when you're not the one looking at mega money.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 25, 2016, 06:19:42 PM
HE should at least declare and test the waters. Kind of foolish not to. If he doesn't hire an agent right away that is a good sign he might be thinking of coming back.

Yup. That's when we will know if it was ever a decision.

If he goes without an agent. He's clearly entertaining the idea of returning.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 25, 2016, 06:22:58 PM
Henry will not be the #1 pick next year. Very likely either Tatum or Giles who will be freshman at Duke.

What about Josh Jackson?

I heard he could rival Simmons if eligible this year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: willie warrior on March 25, 2016, 06:42:12 PM
Henry will not be the #1 pick next year. Very likely either Tatum or Giles who will be freshman at Duke.
What do you base that on? Not much faith in he.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: BM1090 on March 25, 2016, 06:43:31 PM
What do you base that on? Not much faith in he.

Far higher ceiling for other guys. Henry is a pretty safe bet to be a solid NBA player and has the chance to be very good. But not the potential to be a superstar.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 25, 2016, 07:32:34 PM
Far higher ceiling for other guys. Henry is a pretty safe bet to be a solid NBA player and has the chance to be very good. But not the potential to be a superstar.
.

Yes, but...remember a guy named dirk?  One thing, and it's just a "so we gotta chance" type of thing- HE had a terrible going away party in the goden.  Had to have left a nasty after taste, but don't know if it was so bad that a few million$$$ wouldn't wash away
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 25, 2016, 09:22:40 PM
The last thing my.thread will become is another 'will Henry or won't Henry' discussion.  Knock it the hell off and start you own.

I'm damn serious. Clear ladies?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 25, 2016, 09:31:32 PM
Just when you think you hear the most ridiculous reaches on Scoop...someone suggests a 19 year old NBA player would have problems getting into the same places his teammates get into. And even more, that if that were the case (it's not), that that is weighing on Hank's mind.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on March 25, 2016, 09:40:23 PM
Just when you think you hear the most ridiculous reaches on Scoop...someone suggests a 19 year old NBA player would have problems getting into the same places his teammates get into. And even more, that if that were the case (it's not), that that is weighing on Hank's mind.

I have been on many road trips with the Bucks, they were all carded every place we showed up at.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 25, 2016, 10:27:32 PM
The last thing my.thread will become is another 'will Henry or won't Henry' discussion.  Knock it the hell off and start you own.

I'm damn serious. Clear ladies?


I can respect a mans wishes, but, cheezus glow, chill man.  Just axk nicely-sorry, I missed the rules somewhere, but no more HE from me here.  Carry on
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MUVander on March 25, 2016, 10:34:17 PM
I'll change the subject, has a date been set for Howard to make his decision yet or it is still just sometime in April?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GGGG on March 25, 2016, 10:52:21 PM
I'll change the subject, has a date been set for Howard to make his decision yet or it is still just sometime in April?

Findlay is on spring break this week. My guess is that we will hear soon.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: bilsu on March 25, 2016, 10:54:15 PM
Just a hunch--no inside info. Think HE will stay one more year. That is the contrarian in me. If he was going pronow, why would he not have said so already?
He playing mind games with Wojo.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Herman Cain on March 25, 2016, 10:56:56 PM
My gut tells me it's uconn
Seems like Avery is fishing in a lot of the same ponds we are these days.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 26, 2016, 08:42:51 AM

I can respect a mans wishes, but, cheezus glow, chill man.  Just axk nicely-sorry, I missed the rules somewhere, but no more HE from me here.  Carry on

I hope that many agree that one good thing about this thread is that it HAS stayed on topic and has provided a valuable flow of information.  I decided to be harsh more for shock value than anything.  I'd venture a guess that 95% of the board has heard enough HE talk. My comments weren't directed at anyone personally.  Anyway I think I remember that Markus would decide in April. Anyone hear anything about his final Official Visit?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: willie warrior on March 26, 2016, 09:25:21 AM
He playing mind games with Wojo.
If that is the case, then Wojo should play the same game:Recruit over Henry!!!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 26, 2016, 11:19:35 AM
Can anybody confirm that Christian Vital has an offer?

Edit: 247 claims he does.  I'll accept that and put him on the list.  Cripes it has gotten long.  Feel free to let me know if any have dropped.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: tower912 on March 26, 2016, 11:51:32 AM
Never stop recruiting.   
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 26, 2016, 11:58:08 AM
Are we all in agreement that Markus is target #1 and is welcome to verbally commit any time he likes laying claim to that last scholarship until HE (or someone else) makes an announcement?  Assuming that's true, all the other guard types must be absolutely 'on hold' per Wojo.  I can certainly understand guys like Kalif or Fernando waiting on Henry.  So the longer they remain silent, the better I suppose.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 26, 2016, 12:21:38 PM
Can anybody confirm that Christian Vital has an offer?

Edit: 247 claims he does.  I'll accept that and put him on the list.  Cripes it has gotten long.  Feel free to let me know if any have dropped.

Wojo contacted him almost immediately after he opened up & flew out to Connecticut to offer & visit Vital (with Brett Nelson).

I wonder if Markus is leaning towards 2017 after all. Leaving one official visit in his back pocket + the easy ability to unofficial to Arizona / USC if need be. OR...we are losing a guard via transfer.

Just speculation on the last part. Don't kill me please :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 26, 2016, 12:31:06 PM
Wojo contacted him almost immediately after he opened up & flew out to Connecticut to offer & visit Vital (with Brett Nelson).

I wonder if Markus is leaning towards 2017 after all. Leaving one official visit in his back pocket + the easy ability to unofficial to Arizona / USC if need be. OR...we are losing a guard via transfer.

Just speculation on the last part. Don't kill me please :)

There has been credible chatter about a potential transfer.  I won't share a name and I think it's fair to say that the situation might be 'evolving'.  While I know nothing specific, recall that the kids are all due back on campus Tuesday for the resumption of class.  All have been home (or wherever) for 10 days now.  I bet we know lots more in the next 2 weeks.  I wouldn't even be surprised if Wojo asked them to 'finalize' their thoughts in conjunction with their family over break.  I suppose one might argue that played into a decision not to consider Vegas16, among many other factors.  Fair enough?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 26, 2016, 12:33:06 PM
I hope that many agree that one good thing about this thread is that it HAS stayed on topic and has provided a valuable flow of information.  I decided to be harsh more for shock value than anything.  I'd venture a guess that 95% of the board has heard enough HE talk. My comments weren't directed at anyone personally.  Anyway I think I remember that Markus would decide in April. Anyone hear anything about his final Official Visit?

 8-)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 26, 2016, 12:56:41 PM
What about Josh Jackson?

I heard he could rival Simmons if eligible this year.

Josh is really good, but Giles -- if healthy -- is ridiculous. Been eyeing him as a likely #1 pick for 4 years now. He's 100% legit. Unreal.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: AirPunch on March 26, 2016, 01:14:42 PM
There has been credible chatter about a potential transfer.  I won't share a name and I think it's fair to say that the situation might be 'evolving'.  While I know nothing specific, recall that the kids are all due back on campus Tuesday for the resumption of class.  All have been home (or wherever) for 10 days now.  I bet we know lots more in the next 2 weeks.  I wouldn't even be surprised if Wojo asked them to 'finalize' their thoughts in conjunction with their family over break.  I suppose one might argue that played into a decision not to consider Vegas16, among many other factors.  Fair enough?

The recruitment of guards beyond Howard is interesting to say the least. Makes you think something is up.

Here's how I would break down the roster:

Group1:
Carter
Cheatham
Duane
Rowsey

Group 2:
JJJ
Cohen
Hauser
Anim
Wally

Group 3:
Fischer
Heldt
(Henry)

If MU signs Howard, that would add another to group 1. If MU doesn't sign Howard, I still don't feel there is a need for another player in that group unless someone from there is leaving. The roster seems pretty imbalanced to me especially with so many question marks at the group 2 & 3 positions.

Also, is Bailey officially not coming this year ?


Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 26, 2016, 01:17:35 PM
There has been credible chatter about a potential transfer.  I won't share a name and I think it's fair to say that the situation might be 'evolving'.  While I know nothing specific, recall that the kids are all due back on campus Tuesday for the resumption of class.  All have been home (or wherever) for 10 days now.  I bet we know lots more in the next 2 weeks.  I wouldn't even be surprised if Wojo asked them to 'finalize' their thoughts in conjunction with their family over break.  I suppose one might argue that played into a decision not to consider Vegas16, among many other factors.  Fair enough?

Why would you say something like that and not share who is the rumor??
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 26, 2016, 01:17:53 PM
Wojo contacted him almost immediately after he opened up & flew out to Connecticut to offer & visit Vital (with Brett Nelson).

I wonder if Markus is leaning towards 2017 after all. Leaving one official visit in his back pocket + the easy ability to unofficial to Arizona / USC if need be. OR...we are losing a guard via transfer.

Just speculation on the last part. Don't kill me please :)

Certainly possible. It wouldn't be MU if there wasn't at least one transfer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: forgetful on March 26, 2016, 01:23:30 PM
Why would you say something like that and not share who is the rumor??

I'll help clarify glow's comments.  There may be some question marks regarding some of the people in group 1 and 2 above and HE in group 3.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 26, 2016, 01:27:05 PM
Why would you say something like that and not share who is the rumor??

Because I won't/can't.  Please accept that.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 26, 2016, 01:31:08 PM

Also, is Bailey officially not coming this year ?

Marquette has publicly stated that Bailey is going on a 2 year mission.  Absent further announcements, I think you can take that as 'official'.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 26, 2016, 01:49:17 PM
Because I won't/can't.  Please accept that.  Thanks.

Then don't say anything?

There isn't anything in like you can't do. Please accept that.

You've always got a choice
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GGGG on March 26, 2016, 02:11:52 PM
Then don't say anything?

There isn't anything in like you can't do. Please accept that.

You've always got a choice


I think it is just fine that glow shares that he has heard a transfer rumor about someone but doesn't feel comfortable in a public forum sharing the name.  Better than nothing.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 26, 2016, 02:31:22 PM
Thanks Sultan. I suppose to clarify,  I won't say anything further including identity because I promised I wouldn't. How's that? But I think it provides a little context regarding Wojo's continuing recruitment just in case.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MUCrew on March 26, 2016, 02:35:24 PM

I think it is just fine that glow shares that he has heard a transfer rumor about someone but doesn't feel comfortable in a public forum sharing the name.  Better than nothing.

This.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 26, 2016, 02:36:08 PM
Thanks Sultan. I suppose to clarify,  I won't say anything further including identity because I promised I wouldn't.

Appreciate any insight Jsglow. Thank you
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 26, 2016, 02:52:27 PM
Never stop recruiting.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 26, 2016, 02:54:44 PM
Then don't say anything?

There isn't anything in like you can't do. Please accept that.

You've always got a choice

Respect the process.  I understand completely.  If many of us here, privy to say a little more info than another and it leaks out, the sources will dry up.  A little different in private conversations.  Many of us here, some more than others all know someone...it's not what ya know, but who....
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 26, 2016, 03:11:42 PM
I will put this in the grad transfer thread as well...

Stan Johnson just started following Malcolm Bernard (6'5) Charleston Southern & Florida A&M grad transfer

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 26, 2016, 03:36:57 PM
It's funny.  This morning I scrolled the 247 board.  We're on everybody that hasn't already committed.  Okay, I exaggerate only slightly.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 26, 2016, 04:13:38 PM
The recruitment of guards beyond Howard is interesting to say the least. Makes you think something is up.

Here's how I would break down the roster:

Group1:
Carter
Cheatham
Duane
Rowsey

Group 2:
JJJ
Cohen
Hauser
Anim
Wally

Group 3:
Fischer
Heldt
(Henry)

If MU signs Howard, that would add another to group 1. If MU doesn't sign Howard, I still don't feel there is a need for another player in that group unless someone from there is leaving. The roster seems pretty imbalanced to me especially with so many question marks at the group 2 & 3 positions.

Also, is Bailey officially not coming this year ?

I cannot see how Duane would want to transfer, unless somehow he is in position to graduate this summer after just three Years of college. Seems unlikely to me - but of the guards he seems to be the most likely to be upset with his current situation. Just don't see him burning a year of eligibility to transfer, and I personally really hope he doesn't transfer.

Perhaps Carter sees the writing on the wall with Rowsey becoming eligible and MU in hot pursuit of Howard and decides to go elsewhere. I suppose I could see that - id be bummed, but MU will be OK assuming Duane, Rowsey and Howard are in the fold.

Rowsey is going no where. I cannot for the life of me see why Cheatham would transfer after the year he had unless he just hates Milwaukee. This is his team for the next 3 years. I also don't see JJ leaving at this point.

After that, any guard / wing players that may decide to leave aren't going to really kill MU.

Just really hoping Cheatham and Duane stay put.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: onepostdavis on March 27, 2016, 12:53:57 PM
Hate adding to speculation but I'm just gonna say I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Sandy transferred.
No inside info, purely a gut feeling.  Dude looked absolutely lost for 3 months and is gonna be moved down the depth chart.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: hoops12 on March 27, 2016, 01:23:46 PM
Transfers are always an interesting topic. Kids typically want to play "right now". The days of earning your minutes or learning the system only exist if teams are winning at a very high level. Even then it can be tough to sit! As for possible transfers, who knows. In saying that, I believe the if Wilson wanted to transfer he most likely would be given a redshirt year by the NCAA. He was out initially due to a medical redshirt (which is looked upon differently by the NCAA), so I believe he would be allowed to transfer and not lose a year of eligibility. Sandy is a nice looking athlete, but he hasn't shown much progress in two years. New scenery may be good for him. My hope is that both stay and improve, but only time will tell.

GO MU!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: connie on March 27, 2016, 01:45:29 PM
There has been credible chatter about a potential transfer.  I won't share a name and I think it's fair to say that the situation might be 'evolving'.  While I know nothing specific, recall that the kids are all due back on campus Tuesday for the resumption of class.  All have been home (or wherever) for 10 days now.  I bet we know lots more in the next 2 weeks.  I wouldn't even be surprised if Wojo asked them to 'finalize' their thoughts in conjunction with their family over break.  I suppose one might argue that played into a decision not to consider Vegas16, among many other factors.  Fair enough?
Other than Henry, the only one I really fear leaving is Cheatham.  While it is always sad to have a transfer, the record of the rest of our roster is not something that causes me to look at who we have and think "the end is here" if they leave. I guess I really don't consider Duane or JJJ just because of their positions re: age and anticipated playing time.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 27, 2016, 01:52:16 PM
Other than Henry, the only one I really fear leaving is Cheatham.  While it is always sad to have a transfer, the record of the rest of our roster is not something that causes me to look at who we have and think "the end is here" if they leave. I guess I really don't consider Duane or JJJ just because of their positions re: age and anticipated playing time.

Yea, Cheatham won't transfer, nor will Luke or JJJ. Duane already used his redshirt so unless he csn get a medical redshirt for that one I don't think it's gonna be him either.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 27, 2016, 01:53:10 PM
Oh noes!  You guys are all derailing Glow's recruiting thread!  :P
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 27, 2016, 01:56:09 PM
Always shake my head when I see this reckless transfer speculation. I know we've all been conditioned to expect transfers from MU, but c'mon.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 27, 2016, 03:30:59 PM
In saying that, I believe the if Wilson wanted to transfer he most likely would be given a redshirt year by the NCAA. He was out initially due to a medical redshirt (which is looked upon differently by the NCAA), so I believe he would be allowed to transfer and not lose a year of eligibility.

That's not how it works.

First, he was not out due to a "medical redshirt" (e.g., he did not receive a medical hardship waiver). If you recall, the decision was made in DECEMBER of his freshman year that he would sit out the year... and it was publicly discussed that it was not an issue of him being physically incapable of playing (a requirement of a medical hardship waiver). The NCAA bends and waives its own rules at times, but in this case it's clear that Duane wasn't a medical hardship waiver candidate.

Now, even if he had been given a hardship waiver for his freshman year or if he tried to pursue in the future related to his true freshman year, it would only become relevant if he stayed at Marquette.

Upon transferring, he'd have to sit out a year in residence. To get in all four years, the question becomes one of the Five-Year Rule. A requirement for the Five-Year Rule is that a player misses two seasons due to circumstances outside of his control. Because he'd miss a second season due to his own decision to transfer schools, he would not meet the requirements of the Five-Year Rule.

In other words, let's pretend he did received a medical hardship waiver for his freshman year (which he did not in reality). It would become irrelevant if he were to transfer because of the Five-Year Rule.

----------------

PS, I would like to see MBD transfer back and play with us next season!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: hoops12 on March 27, 2016, 03:52:41 PM
JayBee, thank you for the clarification. I didn't realize that. I knew Duane was setback by the injury and wasn't ready to play his freshman season. However, I didn't realize he had to stay at Marquette to potentially get an additional year of eligibility. (if he petitioned successfully with the NCAA) Thank you for clearing that up. Duane would be crazy to even considering transferring then.

GO MU!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 27, 2016, 04:02:17 PM

PS, I would like to see MBD transfer back and play with us next season!!!!!!!

Maybe I am being dense but who is MBD?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 27, 2016, 04:20:41 PM
Maybe I am being dense but who is MBD?

Eonte Burton.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 27, 2016, 04:36:23 PM
Eonte Burton.

got it thanks -- was my guess - but had no idea if that was the reference.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 27, 2016, 05:44:21 PM
Always shake my head when I see this reckless transfer speculation. I know we've all been conditioned to expect transfers from MU, but c'mon.

Well when someone comes out and basically says he has head someone is transferring but won't say his name - speculation is to be expected. I generally never speculate about transfers during the season, but right now it's a fair topic IMO. And that is coming from someone who hopes like hell the whole team returns.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 27, 2016, 07:48:00 PM
Oh noes!  You guys are all derailing Glow's recruiting thread!  :P

HA. I'm thinking that the speculation of a transfer explains some of Wojo's motivation so absent any real news.......
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 28, 2016, 06:44:13 PM
@Markushoward11: My brother is so gifted man @JordaniHoward can't wait till April 3rd
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 28, 2016, 07:18:39 PM
???? What are you saying?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 28, 2016, 07:45:13 PM
@Markushoward11: My brother is so gifted man @JordaniHoward can't wait till April 3rd
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 28, 2016, 08:19:43 PM
Did you figure out what April 3rd was?

No didn't. I just wanted to retreat abit on the panic button. I'm still curious as to what that date implies :) early signing period is April 16th I believe
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Warrior_2002 on March 28, 2016, 08:47:09 PM
Is it too early to start speculation on transfers to Marquette?  See Daniel Giddens who looked at Marquette is transferring out of Ohio State.  Nice big.   
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 28, 2016, 09:00:51 PM
Is it too early to start speculation on transfers to Marquette?  See Daniel Giddens who looked at Marquette is transferring out of Ohio State.  Nice big.

this guy looks like he has some potential!!  big, strong, athletic and good lineage-oak hill academy.  with a little work, could anyone see a nice 4/5 here?  what would we need to do?  get andre mcgee on the horn-heyoooooo!!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on March 28, 2016, 10:13:47 PM
Did you figure out what April 3rd was?

It is the day after his last game.  FP is playing in the Dick's championship in NYC and the last game is on Saturday.  So April 3rd his season is over.  Should be back home on the 3rd.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 28, 2016, 10:29:54 PM
It is the day after his last game.  FP is playing in the Dick's championship in NYC and the last game is on Saturday.  So April 3rd his season is over.  Should be back home on the 3rd.


Thanks again
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 29, 2016, 09:13:14 AM
Vegas and I have initiated surveillance of both his home and FP.  We're in unmarked cars about a half block down and will report any developments.  8-)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorInNYC on March 29, 2016, 09:55:43 AM
It is the day after his last game.  FP is playing in the Dick's championship in NYC and the last game is on Saturday.  So April 3rd his season is over.  Should be back home on the 3rd.

Are any other MU targets playing in this?  I checked out the website and may consider going on Saturday if FP makes it to the championship game.  They list the other schools playing, but don't have the team bios up yet.

St. Benedict's Prep (NJ)
La Lumiere (IN)
Montverde Academy (FL)
Providence Day (NC)
Oak Hill Academy (VA)
Wasatch Academy (UT)
Findlay Prep (NV)
Miller Grove (GA)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GGGG on March 29, 2016, 09:58:52 AM
Are any other MU targets playing in this?  I checked out the website and may consider going on Saturday if FP makes it to the championship game.  They list the other schools playing, but don't have the team bios up yet.

St. Benedict's Prep (NJ)
La Lumiere (IN)
Montverde Academy (FL)
Providence Day (NC)
Oak Hill Academy (VA)
Wasatch Academy (UT)
Findlay Prep (NV)
Miller Grove (GA)


Bruno Fernando plays for Montverde.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorInNYC on March 29, 2016, 10:04:12 AM

Bruno Fernando plays for Montverde.

Thanks Sultan
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 29, 2016, 10:11:47 AM
It is the day after his last game.  FP is playing in the Dick's championship in NYC and the last game is on Saturday.  So April 3rd his season is over.  Should be back home on the 3rd.

Just out of curiosity, is "home" back with family in AZ?  Or back at Findlay Prep in NV?  Findlay Prep is just a gym and weigh room and they go to a different school for the actual educational part of school, right?  Won't he be in school for at least another month and a half, probably closer to 2 months after his season ends on April 3?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 29, 2016, 10:25:58 AM
Jon Issac has really been recruiting Bruno to FSU. Cool to see that amongst top players, but not in this particular instance of course.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 29, 2016, 10:33:06 AM
Just out of curiosity, is "home" back with family in AZ?  Or back at Findlay Prep in NV?  Findlay Prep is just a gym and weigh room and they go to a different school for the actual educational part of school, right?  Won't he be in school for at least another month and a half, probably closer to 2 months after his season ends on April 3?

Nope. FP is a real school.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 29, 2016, 11:33:52 AM
Nope. FP is a real school.

I thought they went to school at Henderson?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 29, 2016, 12:10:29 PM
I thought they went to school at Henderson?

They do. Findlay Prep is boarding program for athletes. The kids go to school at Henderson.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 29, 2016, 12:16:38 PM
Stan Johnson also started following Katin Reinhardt, former UNLV & USC guard fwiw. Grad transfer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 29, 2016, 12:20:01 PM
Stan Johnson also started following Katin Reinhardt, former UNLV & USC guard fwiw. Grad transfer.

Reinhardt is the new best available grad transfer IMHO. Still not the best fit for us, but I love wings who can score.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: wadesworld on March 29, 2016, 12:24:25 PM
Stan Johnson also started following Katin Reinhardt, former UNLV & USC guard fwiw. Grad transfer.

No knowledge whatsoever on this one, but I'm starting to get the feeling that Howard may not be coming...

Hoping my feeling is wrong, and it very well could be.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: BM1090 on March 29, 2016, 12:34:23 PM
No knowledge whatsoever on this one, but I'm starting to get the feeling that Howard may not be coming...

Hoping my feeling is wrong, and it very well could be.

Reinhardt is like a 6'6/6'7 wing. I don't think his recruitment has anything to do with Howard.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 29, 2016, 12:38:36 PM
Reinhardt is like a 6'6/6'7 wing. I don't think his recruitment has anything to do with Howard.

Reinhardt is a combo guard with size. Started about half the games last year for USC. Was a 4 star SG out of HS.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 29, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
Reinhardt is a combo guard with size. Started about half the games last year for USC. Was a 4 star SG out of HS.

Sounds like a JJJ/Sandy type of player
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 29, 2016, 12:41:42 PM
Reinhardt transferred from UNLV because he wouldn't get many minutes after Dave Rice pulled in a great recruiting class.  The word from Rebels followers is that Reinhardt's dad is "actively involved" in his son's career.

edgraney ‏@edgraney  13h13 hours ago
edgraney Retweeted Jeff Goodman
Papa Reinhardt still searching for that perfect spot ...  edgraney added,

Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN
USC’s Katin Reinhardt, who averaged 11.4 points this past season, told ESPN he'll transfer. Will be able to play his final season this year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 29, 2016, 12:51:47 PM
Wojo much be like a kid in a candy store at this time of year.  Wonder who, if any, transfers he will be able to land.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 29, 2016, 12:55:29 PM
I am nervous for who may be departing. Too much smoke for no fire.  Hopefully no impact guys.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 29, 2016, 01:17:37 PM
I am nervous for who may be departing. Too much smoke for no fire.  Hopefully no impact guys.

You'd be surprised the amount of smoke the internet can create without any fire.

I think its important to remember that there's a lot of question marks this offseason. Many of which the coaches might not know the answer too.

1. Does Henry stay or go?
2. Is Howard committing?
3. Is Howard reclassifying?
4. Is anyone transferring?

Coaches have to recruit as if all four of those things are going to go wrong for Marquette. If you don't, you are left with your dick swinging in the wind. Just because we are recruiting people, doesn't mean that Henry is going, or that Howard is committing/reclassifying, or that someone is transferring. Coaches will offer new recruits until the 16-17 roster is set in stone.

That being said, just because the above paragraph is true, doesn't mean that any one or all four of the above items could go against Marquette.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 29, 2016, 01:26:05 PM
You'd be surprised the amount of smoke the internet can create without any fire.

I think its important to remember that there's a lot of question marks this offseason. Many of which the coaches might not know the answer too.

1. Does Henry stay or go?
2. Is Howard committing?
3. Is Howard reclassifying?
4. Is anyone transferring?

Coaches have to recruit as if all four of those things are going to go wrong for Marquette. If you don't, you are left with your dick swinging in the wind. Just because we are recruiting people, doesn't mean that Henry is going, or that Howard is committing/reclassifying, or that someone is transferring. Coaches will offer new recruits until the 16-17 roster is set in stone.

That being said, just because the above paragraph is true, doesn't mean that any one or all four of the above items could go against Marquette.

I know, I know. I just feel like:

1. The coaching staff has a pretty good handle on whether HE is staying or leaving. The fact that we haven't heard a ton of chatter about bigs outside of Young and Fernando makes me think that maybe they think he is staying (still doubt it).  But then again, there haven't been any impact PF to hit the grad transfer market yet, that I am aware of.

2/3. I also feel like the coaching staff has a good handle on MH. I still think he is coming to MU, but maybe not until 2017.

4. Wojo probably knows if anyone is transferring at this point. With all the guards MU appears to be after, it sure seems like they think someone is leaving. That, in addition to Chicos and glow (i think) insinuating that they've heard a transfer or two are coming...leads me to think there is something in the works. 

In summary, I agree - let's use all out scholarships. Thats what they're there for. I HATE HATE HATED the fact that we left so many unused the past couple years. So perhaps that is all it is...that's what I am hoping because losing any of our guard/wing type players outside of maybe Sandy is gonna sting - and I hope Sandy stays too!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 29, 2016, 02:19:54 PM
FWIW (not much)
 
Matt Velazquez
‏@Matt_Velazquez Matt Velazquez Retweeted Billy Vegas
As of this second, all 11 scholarship players scheduled back. 1 taken by Sam Hauser. Leaves 1. Nothing set in stone.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 29, 2016, 02:30:42 PM
FWIW (not much)
 
Matt Velazquez
‏@Matt_Velazquez Matt Velazquez Retweeted Billy Vegas
As of this second, all 11 scholarship players scheduled back. 1 taken by Sam Hauser. Leaves 1. Nothing set in stone.

As of this second is the major take away there ;)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on March 29, 2016, 02:39:41 PM
As of this second is the major take away there ;)

Shows he knows nothing, anybody can say that, but he is recruiting rather hard for one spot if that is true!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Litehouse on March 29, 2016, 02:54:50 PM
So all 11, including Henry?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: mug644 on March 29, 2016, 03:29:08 PM
So all 11, including Henry?

As of that second, yes. Yet he goes on to say "Nothing set in stone."

The number 11 is very likely to change at some second in the future.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 29, 2016, 03:36:55 PM
Maybe Diamond is tranferrin' back home, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 29, 2016, 03:39:44 PM
So all 11, including Henry?

Basically means that no one has announced a transfer or declaration yet.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: tower912 on March 29, 2016, 03:41:49 PM
As of this second, nothing has been announced.   Ergo....
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: 79Warrior on March 29, 2016, 03:58:56 PM
I am nervous for who may be departing. Too much smoke for no fire.  Hopefully no impact guys.

I am pretty sure we are going to have at least one transfer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MattyWarrior on March 29, 2016, 04:01:46 PM
Are all the players back from break yet?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Cooby Snacks on March 29, 2016, 04:04:28 PM
I'm already bracing myself for the worst. I have no connections or sources whatsoever, just the feeling that nothing nice ever happens.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 29, 2016, 04:07:59 PM
Are all the players back from break yet?

Classes started again today so in theory they should all be back.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 29, 2016, 04:12:06 PM
I'm already bracing myself for the worst. I have no connections or sources whatsoever, just the feeling that nothing nice ever happens.

A smart move. Transfers happen everywhere, but especially at MU.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 29, 2016, 04:14:22 PM
I'm already bracing myself for the worst. I have no connections or sources whatsoever, just the feeling that nothing nice ever happens.


Half empty glass dude, then, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Cooby Snacks on March 29, 2016, 04:18:18 PM

Half empty glass dude, then, ai na?

This way, I can never be disappointed.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MattyWarrior on March 29, 2016, 04:27:26 PM
Its high time things started going our way, no transfers, all players have outstanding summers
and no walking boots. I'm going positive in my old age!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: nyg on March 29, 2016, 04:29:14 PM
I am nervous for who may be departing. Too much smoke for no fire.  Hopefully no impact guys.

Sorry, but am I missing something?  What smoke besides Henry, which is probably gonna happen.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 29, 2016, 04:33:48 PM
Sorry, but am I missing something?  What smoke besides Henry, which is probably gonna happen.

MU appears to be interested in / has offers out to far more players than spots available, even assuming HE is gone (if you continue to read this thread subsequent to the post you responded to this is discussed in more detail).

Many of those offers and recent Stan Johnson twitter follows of grad transfers are guards or wings, when the current roster doesn't really appear to need much help there.

A couple posters who claim to be in the know have insinuated or directly stated that they've heard there will be a transfer or two, but haven't stated names.  One also insinuated that Duane, JJJ and/or Luke may be in position to graduate this summer (which I find very hard to believe), but note that they did not directly state this or name names.   
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on March 29, 2016, 04:36:36 PM
Sorry, but am I missing something?  What smoke besides Henry, which is probably gonna happen.

Some scoopers have ominously suggested that a transfer is imminent.

Others are using reports that we're recruiting guards right now as a sign that someone is transferring.

Certainly possible. I think the average number of transfers per program the last two seasons has been around 2.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: nyg on March 29, 2016, 04:37:52 PM
MU appears to be interested in / has offers out to far more players than spots available, even assuming HE is gone (if you continue to read this thread subsequent to the post you responded to this is discussed in more detail).

Many of those offers and recent Stan Johnson twitter follows of grad transfers are guards or wings, when the current roster doesn't really appear to need much help there.

A couple posters who claim to be in the know have insinuated or directly stated that they've heard there will be a transfer or two, but haven't stated names.  One also insinuated that Duane, JJJ and/or Luke may be in position to graduate this summer (which I find very hard to believe), but note that they did not directly state this or name names.   

Ok, same issues I have been reading. Just speculation, rumors, etc.  thought I missed a real deal. Thanks.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: BM1090 on March 29, 2016, 04:52:16 PM
Assuming Henry is gone, I would guess that Wally is likely going to leave. He could graduate and go somewhere he would get minutes.

Hopefully that's it. Carter, JJ and Cheatham I would be very unhappy if they left. Same with Duane but to a slightly lesser extent.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 29, 2016, 05:25:24 PM
Assuming Henry is gone, I would guess that Wally is likely going to leave. He could graduate and go somewhere he would get minutes.

Hopefully that's it. Carter, JJ and Cheatham I would be very unhappy if they left. Same with Duane but to a slightly lesser extent.

Or perhaps he moves to a school with a big-time track program. Let's face it, that's where his future lies.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 29, 2016, 05:38:36 PM
Or perhaps he moves to a school with a big-time track program. Let's face it, that's where his future lies.

He can't jump next year at another program. This is going to be his 4th year of eligibility for track because they don't red shirt for transferring. So no point to Tanager for track.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 29, 2016, 06:46:21 PM
Wojo's in the driver's seat.  He is well aware that he has to have a better team to compete next season.  Can't wait to see who is on the roster.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Earl Tatum on March 29, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
Ohio State is losing three 4-star recruits from their 2015 class.
Dan Giddens 6-10 from Georgia
A.J. Harris 5-9 from ???
Mickey Mitchell 6-7 from Texas
All three are transfers, would have to sit out one year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 29, 2016, 08:41:50 PM
If I'm an assistant coach talking to kids about coming to MU, real offer or not, I'd follow they ass on Twitter.

Let's not get too nutty, a''inal?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: BossplayaOtto on March 31, 2016, 11:14:32 AM
Sorry if this has already been posted but Marquette recruit Markus Howard and Findley Prep are on ESPNU this evening at 6p EDT.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 31, 2016, 12:05:03 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted but Marquette recruit Markus Howard and Findley Prep are on ESPNU this evening at 6p EDT.

I misread this and thought his announcement was tonight. But heck yeah. Definitely gonna hit the DVR for this one.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Nukem2 on March 31, 2016, 01:52:38 PM
Ohio State is losing three 4-star recruits from their 2015 class.
Dan Giddens 6-10 from Georgia
A.J. Harris 5-9 from ???
Mickey Mitchell 6-7 from Texas
All three are transfers, would have to sit out one year.
OSU also earlier lost a 4th 4 star recruit in this same class in December  in Austin Grandstaff who was a friend of Mitchell's..  Ouch.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 31, 2016, 02:10:18 PM
OSU also earlier lost a 4th 4 star recruit in this same class in December  in Austin Grandstaff who was a friend of Mitchell's..  Ouch.

Saw an article, his dad sounds like a nutcase. I remember we were recruiting him twice, initially and then when he decommitted from Ok St. That was a great thread.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: KampusFoods on March 31, 2016, 02:22:59 PM
OSU also earlier lost a 4th 4 star recruit in this same class in December  in Austin Grandstaff who was a friend of Mitchell's..  Ouch.

DONT YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS ON HERE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS KID?!?!?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 31, 2016, 03:46:02 PM
DONT YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS ON HERE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS KID?!?!?


It usually leads to a LONG discussion. That wasn't HARD to guess.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 31, 2016, 03:46:23 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted but Marquette recruit Markus Howard and Findley Prep are on ESPNU this evening at 6p EDT.

Thanks
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: barfolomew on March 31, 2016, 04:00:57 PM
He can't jump next year at another program. This is going to be his 4th year of eligibility for track because they don't red shirt for transferring. So no point to Tanager for track.

That's an interesting autocorrect there.
Texting about ornithology, are we?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Jay Bee on March 31, 2016, 05:09:26 PM
OSU also earlier lost a 4th 4 star recruit in this same class in December  in Austin Grandstaff who was a friend of Mitchell's..  Ouch.

At least these other guys stayed for a full year. Grandstaff only came in the first semester.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on March 31, 2016, 05:27:55 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted but Marquette recruit Markus Howard and Findley Prep are on ESPNU this evening at 6p EDT.

Jesus H Christ! Vegas and I let Markus slip through our dragnet and get to McCarren? We need to hire Mike Earmantraut going forward.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 31, 2016, 05:29:28 PM
Um.....holy smokes.

9 crystal balls (including Mark Miller) from today saying Bruno Fernando to SMU.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 31, 2016, 05:44:59 PM
Um.....holy smokes.

9 crystal balls (including Mark Miller) from today saying Bruno Fernando to SMU.

Yup, looking like $outhern Methodi$t is the choice.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 31, 2016, 06:08:07 PM
At least these other guys stayed for a full year. Grandstaff only came in the first semester.

So there is more to a staff than just being grand, eh?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 31, 2016, 06:29:59 PM
Jesus H Christ! Vegas and I let Markus slip through our dragnet and get to McCarren? We need to hire Mike Earmantraut going forward.

I never saw him!  He must have used a Johnny Manziel-type disguise!

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: We R Final Four on March 31, 2016, 06:35:41 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted but Marquette recruit Markus Howard and Findley Prep are on ESPNU this evening at 6p EDT.

That was the laziest zone defense I have seen this year and Markus was a wing on that 3-2 zone. Commentator called out MH saying had no heart and played slow. First game I have seen of him--maybe cuz everyone wants to be a star on ESPN but When a kid gets beat in a zone in HS like that......well at least he can improve in that area.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Groin_pull on March 31, 2016, 06:55:53 PM
That was the laziest zone defense I have seen this year and Markus was a wing on that 3-2 zone. Commentator called out MH saying had no heart and played slow. First game I have seen of him--maybe cuz everyone wants to be a star on ESPN but When a kid gets beat in a zone in HS like that......well at least he can improve in that area.

Give us a quick scouting report. How was he on the offensive end?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 31, 2016, 07:01:35 PM
That was the laziest zone defense I have seen this year and Markus was a wing on that 3-2 zone. Commentator called out MH saying had no heart and played slow. First game I have seen of him--maybe cuz everyone wants to be a star on ESPN but When a kid gets beat in a zone in HS like that......well at least he can improve in that area.

Agreed, very odd game & horrible zone.

Markus was by far the smallest guy on the court. A great looking jump shot though, extremely pure and nice release. But as the announcers said all game, A.Gilbert was the best guard on the court.

MH brought the ball up the court, maybe half the time? Being generous. He typically positioned in the corner or on the wings. Shot 5-10, 13 points & 1 assist.

Beautiful jumper, but not overly quick laterally for his size. Kid can be a total zone buster though, a sniper from deep.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 31, 2016, 07:15:44 PM
"@FindlayPrep's Markus Howard says his Top 4 is Arizona State, Baylor, Marquette and Central Arkansas, where his brother goes. @AdamZagoria"


"(Markus) Howard is much closer to a decision, which he says will come "hopefully soon" after long talks with his family. CC: @AdamZagoria"
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: We R Final Four on March 31, 2016, 07:40:33 PM
Give us a quick scouting report. How was he on the offensive end?
He's built like a truck. Quick first step. Can shoot from deep, mid range and drives well. Weird team. Weird offense. All isolation. He brought the ball up sometimes, other times on the wing, sometimes hung out deep in the corner and didn't move. FP seemed to be all about isolation. MH was visibly upset with some teammates decisions and seemed most disappointed by the loss.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: cheebs09 on March 31, 2016, 08:16:08 PM
I caught bits and pieces. With him and Hauser, we would have one of our better shooting classes. Very nice looking shot. Didn't run point much. The zone defense was pretty disappointing. My impression was if we got him, Traci would be our starting PG and Howard would eat into Duane's minutes.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 31, 2016, 09:01:44 PM
I caught bits and pieces. With him and Hauser, we would have one of our better shooting classes. Very nice looking shot. Didn't run point much. The zone defense was pretty disappointing. My impression was if we got him, Traci would be our starting PG and Howard would eat into Duane's minutes.

Agree with the part about Traci. I always thought this was Traci's position to lose unless Wojo went out and got the equivalent to a Tyus Jones or a Tyler Ullis.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 01, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
I caught bits and pieces. With him and Hauser, we would have one of our better shooting classes. Very nice looking shot. Didn't run point much. The zone defense was pretty disappointing. My impression was if we got him, Traci would be our starting PG and Howard would eat into Duane's minutes.

then again, this could make duane put in some extra time in the gym and come out looking like s.curry ein'a

p.s. if i were anyone with decent potential, i would be studying everything about what steph does from his workouts to his eating/nutrition, reading material, psychy, to how he holds it going #1...in other words, everything about him cuz he is hotter than a black car seat in the arizona sun
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 01, 2016, 11:45:59 AM
This sentence from Zags/SNY piece this morning could make sense why MU is going guard heavy on the 2016 trails:

"Howard, a four-star point guard said he is considering reclassifying to 2017 but not actively thinking about it"
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Windyplayer on April 01, 2016, 11:58:58 AM
This sentence from Zags/SNY piece this morning could make sense why MU is going guard heavy on the 2016 trails:

"Howard, a four-star point guard said he is considering reclassifying to 2017 but not actively thinking about it"
I love the nuances. This guy is so in sync with Howard that he not only knows the thoughts of Howard, but where they reside in his brain.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GGGG on April 01, 2016, 12:01:20 PM
Furthermore he wouldn't have to reclassify to 2017.  He is a 2017 prospect who might reclassify to 2016.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on April 01, 2016, 01:11:42 PM
Didya ever consider that these guys might enjoy lurking on scoop and take pride in their ability to eff with us all.

(I think I'll mess with eng today. Doesn't he do that lame podcast from his mom's basement?  Yeah,  he's today's target.  ;D)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 01, 2016, 04:20:12 PM
Bruno Fernando is going to announce at around 4:40pm central. I'm assuming it's not Marquette.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Groin_pull on April 01, 2016, 04:33:11 PM
Bruno Fernando is going to announce at around 4:40pm central. I'm assuming it's not Marquette.

Looks like $outhern Methodi$t.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 01, 2016, 04:35:32 PM
Looks like $outhern Methodi$t.

Just need to make sure $cott Drew hasn't vi$isted Markus Howard too often.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 01, 2016, 04:37:44 PM
Bruno Fernando is going to announce at around 4:40pm central. I'm assuming it's not Marquette.

15 crystal balls towards SMU in last 24 hours. Nobody tell Jay Bee  ;)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 01, 2016, 04:45:20 PM
15 crystal balls towards SMU in last 24 hours. Nobody tell Jay Bee  ;)

It's SMU. So it goes. Pretty clear sign that Henry is coming back.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on April 01, 2016, 04:50:24 PM
Bruno Fernando is going to announce at around 4:40pm central. I'm assuming it's not Marquette.

Best wishes to the young man. Seriously. Any kid who gives MU a look is cool with me.  We were a super long shot anyway.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 01, 2016, 04:51:58 PM
Best wishes to the young man. Seriously. Any kid who gives MU a look is cool with me.  We were a super long shot anyway.

I agree best wishes. By all accounts Wojo really wanted him (3 visits to Florida since Christmas). Kid is going to be a great addition for SMU.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: fjm on April 01, 2016, 07:56:55 PM
Not sure what of the 30 threads to put this in, but MU strength tweeted a photo of Sacar lifting in all of his MU gear. So I think we could scratch him off the "transfer" rumor list
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: BM1090 on April 01, 2016, 08:08:21 PM
Not sure what of the 30 threads to put this in, but MU strength tweeted a photo of Sacar lifting in all of his MU gear. So I think we could scratch him off the "transfer" rumor list

Yep. Sacar knew when he came here he'd work his ass off to improve and playing time would be scarce initially.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 01, 2016, 10:11:48 PM
Best wishes to the young man. Seriously. Any kid who gives MU a look is cool with me.  We were a super long shot anyway.
Would have been nice to get Hauptman but obviously SMU paid top dollar.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on April 01, 2016, 10:20:54 PM
I have a brother who is really really good at cutting hair. I like cutting hair too, but I am nowhere as skilled at cutting hair as my brother.  However, he was offered the opportunity to join a barbershop that has a long history of success and was under new management.  So I left my job and went to join my brother at his new salon.

He now has the opportunity to move on to even bigger places, but I am not good enough to go with him.  So the manager of the salon wants to know if my brother moves on will I stay or does he need to fill two chairs.  I could stay if my brother leaves, but I came to this place to be with my brother and I have opportunities to leave and focus on my other job where I am world class.  The manager told me that he has to be out looking right now to fill two spots, because he can't be caught short handed.   My family understands this.

The easiest thing would be for both my brother and I to say we are moving on, but there are many factors in that decision.  My brother really wants to meet some of the folks at the next level and see what opportunities he would have.  He could stay where he is at if he thinks that the he could actually find a better situation in a year, but it sounds like he is going to be able to find a really good one this year. Then I have to decide what I want to do and I am not sure either.

I know this is off topic, but I hope you find it interesting.

Now back to the regular programing whatever the hell that is these days.   

Except this Sunday..I know what I will be watching.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 01, 2016, 10:23:27 PM
I have a brother who is really really good at cutting hair. I like cutting hair too, but I am nowhere as skilled at cutting hair as my brother.  However, he was offered the opportunity to join a barbershop that has a long history of success and was under new management.  So I left my job and went to join my brother at his new salon.

He now has the opportunity to move on to even bigger places, but I am not good enough to go with him.  So the manager of the salon wants to know if my brother moves on will I stay or does he need to fill two chairs.  I could stay if my brother leaves, but I came to this place to be with my brother and I have opportunities to leave and focus on my other job where I am world class.  The manager told me that he has to be out looking right now to fill two spots, because he can't be caught short handed.   My family understands this.

The easiest thing would be for both my brother and I to say we are moving on, but there are many factors in that decision.  My brother really wants to meet some of the folks at the next level and see what opportunities he would have.  He could stay where he is at if he thinks that the he could actually find a better situation in a year, but it sounds like he is going to be able to find a really good one this year. Then I have to decide what I want to do and I am not sure either.

I know this is off topic, but I hope you find it interesting.

Now back to the regular programing whatever the hell that is these days.   

Except this Sunday..I know what I will be watching.

*slow claps*
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: BossplayaOtto on April 01, 2016, 10:27:39 PM
*slow claps*

Ditto
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MUfan12 on April 01, 2016, 10:30:38 PM
Except this Sunday..I know what I will be watching.

A LEAGUEME production?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on April 01, 2016, 10:33:42 PM
Roger Roger..what?

Vector Victor... What?

Clearance Clarance.  What?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MUfan12 on April 01, 2016, 10:40:54 PM
Roger Roger..what?

Vector Victor... What?

Clearance Clarance.  What?

Surely you can't be serious.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 01, 2016, 10:43:46 PM
Surely you can't be serious.

Don't call me Shirley.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on April 01, 2016, 11:15:16 PM
BD, my dad says you don't hustle enough on defense.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Jay Bee on April 02, 2016, 12:27:24 AM
15 crystal balls towards SMU in last 24 hours. Nobody tell Jay Bee  ;)

It's based on deep intel. These cats are amazing!

lol

So stupid.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 02, 2016, 06:56:35 AM
It's based on deep intel. These cats are amazing!

lol

So stupid.

No Cristal bowel joke? Letting me down JB
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 02, 2016, 07:08:10 AM
Kavell Bigby-Williams is visiting Oregon next weekend (April 8-10) & is nearing a decision:


Earlier this week, Bigby-Williams told The Oregonian a decision was near.

"(I'm) close to a commitment," he said. "I got to visit still, but I'm close."

"Well, I've seen how impactful Boucher has been, and we are similar in terms of how we play," he said. "I've spoken to coach (Dana) Altman and (coach Kevin) McKenna and they plan on playing both of us at the same time, which could be really exciting and a problem for other teams if I committed to Oregon."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 02, 2016, 08:08:38 AM
I have a brother who is really really good at cutting hair. I like cutting hair too, but I am nowhere as skilled at cutting hair as my brother.  However, he was offered the opportunity to join a barbershop that has a long history of success and was under new management.  So I left my job and went to join my brother at his new salon.

He now has the opportunity to move on to even bigger places, but I am not good enough to go with him.  So the manager of the salon wants to know if my brother moves on will I stay or does he need to fill two chairs.  I could stay if my brother leaves, but I came to this place to be with my brother and I have opportunities to leave and focus on my other job where I am world class.  The manager told me that he has to be out looking right now to fill two spots, because he can't be caught short handed.   My family understands this.

The easiest thing would be for both my brother and I to say we are moving on, but there are many factors in that decision.  My brother really wants to meet some of the folks at the next level and see what opportunities he would have.  He could stay where he is at if he thinks that the he could actually find a better situation in a year, but it sounds like he is going to be able to find a really good one this year. Then I have to decide what I want to do and I am not sure either.

I know this is off topic, but I hope you find it interesting.

Now back to the regular programing whatever the hell that is these days.   

Except this Sunday..I know what I will be watching.




Chit, all this time I thought ya peddled insurance, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 02, 2016, 09:35:29 AM
I have a brother who is really really good at cutting hair. I like cutting hair too, but I am nowhere as skilled at cutting hair as my brother.  However, he was offered the opportunity to join a barbershop that has a long history of success and was under new management.  So I left my job and went to join my brother at his new salon.

He now has the opportunity to move on to even bigger places, but I am not good enough to go with him.  So the manager of the salon wants to know if my brother moves on will I stay or does he need to fill two chairs.  I could stay if my brother leaves, but I came to this place to be with my brother and I have opportunities to leave and focus on my other job where I am world class.  The manager told me that he has to be out looking right now to fill two spots, because he can't be caught short handed.   My family understands this.

The easiest thing would be for both my brother and I to say we are moving on, but there are many factors in that decision.  My brother really wants to meet some of the folks at the next level and see what opportunities he would have.  He could stay where he is at if he thinks that the he could actually find a better situation in a year, but it sounds like he is going to be able to find a really good one this year. Then I have to decide what I want to do and I am not sure either.

I know this is off topic, but I hope you find it interesting.

Now back to the regular programing whatever the hell that is these days.   

Except this Sunday..I know what I will be watching.

Hair Is Generally Hard,  Just Use Mental Perseverance.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 02, 2016, 10:01:33 AM
Hair Is Generally Hard,  Just Use Mental Perseverance.

I got it. I almost didn't, but then I did.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MuMark on April 02, 2016, 01:32:01 PM
https://twitter.com/wojverticalnba/status/716329007931850752
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on April 02, 2016, 01:35:36 PM
https://twitter.com/wojverticalnba/status/716329007931850752

Whelp, that takes it to a 99.97% chance he's gone. Woj is the best NBA reporter by a comfortable margin. Glad he played at MU! Cool to get a Mickey D's 1 & done, very good thing for Wojo to have on his resume as well.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: wadesworld on April 02, 2016, 02:10:42 PM
Oh.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: DJO's Jaw on April 02, 2016, 02:12:16 PM
So who's left to try and bring in at PF for 2016? Are we basically locked in to trying for a transfer at the 4?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 02, 2016, 02:58:42 PM
So who's left to try and bring in at PF for 2016? Are we basically locked in to trying for a transfer at the 4?

Kalif Young
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: BM1090 on April 02, 2016, 03:54:30 PM
Kalif Young

If Wally leaves with Henry, my vote would be for Young, Katin Reinhardt and Howard.

If Wally stays I'm torn between Howard/Grad transfer PF or Reinhardt/ and Howard/Young. Howard/Young would probably be the way to go long term but damnit I want to make the tournament next year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: forgetful on April 03, 2016, 01:34:05 PM
With Howard now on board, I would love to see MU grab two of the following:

Khalif Young
Katin Reinhardt
Dylan Osetkowski (Tulane transfer:  6'9" 255lb Sophomore)
Daniel Giddens (Ohio State Transfer:  6'10" 228 lb Freshman)
Patrick Steeves (Grad transfer; two years remain  6'7" 220lb 46% 3 pt)

This is assuming that Henry goes Pro and Wally decides to play his last year (grad transfer) elsewhere or focus on track.

Other off season priorities:

Duane needs to get healthy and stronger. 
Cheatham and Sandy need to add strength and bulk.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MuMark on April 03, 2016, 01:55:48 PM
Gideon's has already released a list of schools he is considering.....MU not one of them
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on April 03, 2016, 01:57:44 PM
I'd update the chart but am relegated to my phone.  Next chance that I get.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: forgetful on April 03, 2016, 02:28:05 PM
Gideon's has already released a list of schools he is considering.....MU not one of them

So you're saying there's a chance?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on April 03, 2016, 02:32:24 PM
So seriously guys,  when was the last time our 13 slot dance card was completely full? I know,  I know,  HE's leaving but consider the progress in 15 months.  Because back then our 9th man was a walk-on and it could be argued that we only had 3 or so legitimate high major players. Right now our 13th man (Sacar?) would have played 15 minutes a game every night during that cold January. I'd say we're trending just fine.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2016, 02:57:03 PM
Now up to #13 in the 247 class rankings.
Imagine where we'd be if Wojo weren't struggling with recruiting.

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Marquette-has-top-15-class-with-addition-of-Markus-Howard-44619502
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on April 03, 2016, 03:56:43 PM
Now up to #13 in the 247 class rankings.
Imagine where we'd be if Wojo weren't struggling with recruiting.

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Marquette-has-top-15-class-with-addition-of-Markus-Howard-44619502

Its nice to be rated in Top 20, but really about Top 50 when you take Bailey out but maybe back to Top 15 if you had Rowsey.   Competition will be there next year,
all these kids can put the ball in the hole.  If anything should get Carter and Duane Wilson to work harder on there shot this summer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 03, 2016, 08:43:45 PM
Marquette is pursuing 2016 G/F Deng Mayok, from Australia.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: wadesworld on April 03, 2016, 08:59:03 PM
Marquette is pursuing 2016 G/F Deng Mayok, from Australia.

Almost sounds like Marial Shayok, a'ina?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 03, 2016, 09:02:51 PM
From Australia? Must have hops, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: MuMark on April 03, 2016, 09:05:15 PM
http://ausahoops.com/deng-mayot-out-of-the-shadows-into-the-spotlight/
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 06, 2016, 05:18:21 PM
Galen Alexander  2:33 PM - 6 Apr 2016
‏@_waterboyg
Just received an offer from Marquette!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 06, 2016, 05:23:44 PM
Galen Alexander  2:33 PM - 6 Apr 2016
‏@_waterboyg
Just received an offer from Marquette!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: The Lens on April 06, 2016, 05:24:59 PM
Looks like he's offered by Arizona and LSU.  The home state team and a blue blood.  Nice company.  Crystal Bowels all say LSU.

I have to think our FanDuel Championship will weigh heavy in our favor
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: forgetful on April 06, 2016, 05:30:38 PM
Looks like he's offered by Arizona and LSU.  The home state team and a blue blood.  Nice company.  Crystal Bowels all say LSU.

I have to think our FanDuel Championship will weigh heavy in our favor

With the Louisiana budget crisis, there is not guarantee that there will be basketball played at LSU when he gets there.  Or a school being operational at all.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/2/12/10978892/lsu-football-budget-louisiana-governor-john-bel-edwards (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/2/12/10978892/lsu-football-budget-louisiana-governor-john-bel-edwards)

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14764642/louisiana-gov-john-bel-edwards-threatens-future-lsu-tigers-football-tax-proposals-passed (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14764642/louisiana-gov-john-bel-edwards-threatens-future-lsu-tigers-football-tax-proposals-passed)

Now the blue blood offer scares me.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 06, 2016, 05:35:25 PM

Now the blue blood offer scares me.


Markus Howard had an offer from AZ. :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on April 06, 2016, 05:57:05 PM
Good stuff.  I'll get the chart updated next week. Keep your ears open for that '16 we're looking for. Gotta think we'll know a little more this month.

BTW. Did you guys hear our friends on the podcast? Coulda been word for word from the brilliant analysis here at Scoop.  Minus the Political Page,  of course!   ;D
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on April 06, 2016, 06:49:46 PM
Markus Howard had an offer from AZ. :)

And they were the home state too!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Jay Bee on April 06, 2016, 06:53:12 PM
And they were the home state too!

And the cristal bowel had Arizona at 100% back in the day!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 06, 2016, 07:29:16 PM
I have a brother who is really really good at cutting hair. I like cutting hair too, but I am nowhere as skilled at cutting hair as my brother.  However, he was offered the opportunity to join a barbershop that has a long history of success and was under new management.  So I left my job and went to join my brother at his new salon.

He now has the opportunity to move on to even bigger places, but I am not good enough to go with him.  So the manager of the salon wants to know if my brother moves on will I stay or does he need to fill two chairs.  I could stay if my brother leaves, but I came to this place to be with my brother and I have opportunities to leave and focus on my other job where I am world class.  The manager told me that he has to be out looking right now to fill two spots, because he can't be caught short handed.   My family understands this.

The easiest thing would be for both my brother and I to say we are moving on, but there are many factors in that decision.  My brother really wants to meet some of the folks at the next level and see what opportunities he would have.  He could stay where he is at if he thinks that the he could actually find a better situation in a year, but it sounds like he is going to be able to find a really good one this year. Then I have to decide what I want to do and I am not sure either.

I know this is off topic, but I hope you find it interesting.

Now back to the regular programing whatever the hell that is these days.   

Except this Sunday..I know what I will be watching.
If Wally stays he will get some decent playing time and be part of a good team.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 06, 2016, 08:18:49 PM
@GoodmanESPN: USC transfer Katin Reinhardt told ESPN he is looking at Marquette, Alabama, VCU, Uconn, Xavier, Providence, UTEP and Texas.

small update
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 07, 2016, 02:03:14 PM
Corey Evans ‏@coreyevans_10  17m17 minutes ago Ross Township, PA
Nebraska, Xavier, Ohio State, Texas-latest to get involved with 2018 @WisconsinPGC guard Jordan McCabe; WVU, Mizzou, DePaul already offered
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: 79Warrior on April 07, 2016, 03:13:59 PM
And they were the home state too!

Miller backed away a few months ago.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on April 07, 2016, 03:49:06 PM
Miller backed away a few months ago.

That's part of the point. Just because a blue blood, or a home state has offered a kid doesn't mean that their recruiting process is over. Sometimes the player doesn't want to go to a blue blood or stay close to home. And sometimes the blue blood or home state school will move on to other priorities.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: jsglow on April 10, 2016, 10:25:43 PM
I'm still planning to update this in the next few days because this is still the one and only recruitment thread!  ;D
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: Jay Bee on April 12, 2016, 07:20:03 PM
2019 (18 potentially?) Matthew Hurt continues to rise for me (nh).

Good grief. The wrist. Lovely.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 15, 2016, 01:01:00 PM
Okay guys, I've got '16 cleaned up on the P1 chart to the best of my quick ability.  Happy to get immediate feedback to make further corrections.  I took the liberty to put the strike through Kostas.  Additional input, especially for the out years is appreciated.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: wadesworld on April 15, 2016, 01:07:40 PM
2019 (18 potentially?) Matthew Hurt continues to rise for me (nh).

Good grief. The wrist. Lovely.

Is he on the rise for MU, as far as you know?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 15, 2016, 03:22:51 PM
What's the latest with Hicks?  That still alive?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 15, 2016, 03:26:48 PM
On da rise sounds wonderful, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 15, 2016, 04:22:40 PM
Okay guys, I've got '16 cleaned up on the P1 chart to the best of my quick ability.  Happy to get immediate feedback to make further corrections.  I took the liberty to put the strike through Kostas.  Additional input, especially for the out years is appreciated.
Kostas is still in the mix.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: wadesworld on April 15, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
Kostas is still in the mix.

Not for 2016, no.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 15, 2016, 04:29:05 PM
Kostas is still in the mix.

While I know nothing, absent any real evidence given the guys we're truly ON and have offers out to and are visiting I'm inclined to leave the strike in place.  But if I'm advised of any real activity.....  ;D
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: BM1090 on April 15, 2016, 05:36:22 PM
Kostas is still in the mix.

For other schools, sure.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 15, 2016, 06:39:16 PM
While I know nothing, absent any real evidence given the guys we're truly ON and have offers out to and are visiting I'm inclined to leave the strike in place.  But if I'm advised of any real activity.....  ;D
Here is a good article that describes Iowa State and St. Johns Interest. It mentions Marquette among others.
http://www.todaysu.com/recruiting/cbb-recruiting/undeclared-wants-kostas-antetokounmpo/
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: brandx on April 15, 2016, 06:55:45 PM
Here is a good article that describes Iowa State and St. Johns Interest. It mentions Marquette among others.
http://www.todaysu.com/recruiting/cbb-recruiting/undeclared-wants-kostas-antetokounmpo/

I especially love this line:

"But before he was making a mockery of Division 4 Wisconsin high school basketball, the youngest Antetokounmpo had to remain patient."

So now in the age of everyone is a superstar, 12 pts and 7 rebounds in Div 4 against 6'1 kids is making a mockery of the rest of the state.

Wow.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on April 15, 2016, 08:13:50 PM
Who the hell wrote this?  Here's my favorite hyperbole: "His handles and headiness are on the level of any guard on the planet and the best part is that he knows it."

Steph Curry, Chris Paul and James Harden just cannot figure out how Kostas was able to catch up to them so quickly.  MU should be recruiting Kostas to start at the point for us next year.

This moron really thinks that Kostas is a point guard!  Doesn't he realize that only John Dawson is Magic like?

"They want to envision their university with the ever intriguing mismatch of having a 6-foot-10 ball handler running their offense."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: TSmith34 on April 15, 2016, 09:50:57 PM
Here is a good article that describes Iowa State and St. Johns Interest. It mentions Marquette among others.
http://www.todaysu.com/recruiting/cbb-recruiting/undeclared-wants-kostas-antetokounmpo/

We've entered obsession-with-Dawson level now.  Anyway, I heard Kostas only makes basic steals.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: forgetful on April 15, 2016, 11:59:20 PM
Who the hell wrote this?  Here's my favorite hyperbole: "His handles and headiness are on the level of any guard on the planet and the best part is that he knows it."

Steph Curry, Chris Paul and James Harden just cannot figure out how Kostas was able to catch up to them so quickly.  MU should be recruiting Kostas to start at the point for us next year.

This moron really thinks that Kostas is a point guard!  Doesn't he realize that only John Dawson is Magic like?

"They want to envision their university with the ever intriguing mismatch of having a 6-foot-10 ball handler running their offense."

My favorite part is the youtube video indicating dunk of the year candidate.   He was called for a charge on that play...it was worth 0 pts.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Shark on April 16, 2016, 01:02:59 AM
My favorite part is the youtube video indicating dunk of the year candidate.   He was called for a charge on that play...it was worth 0 pts.

That call was bullcrap. The dunk was amazing. So that's why it will continue to be referenced.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: forgetful on April 16, 2016, 01:12:24 AM
That call was bullcrap. The dunk was amazing. So that's why it will continue to be referenced.

So your the guy that wrote the article.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 17, 2016, 03:48:44 PM
That call was bullcrap. The dunk was amazing. So that's why it will continue to be referenced.
Here is a  well written analysis of Kostas by Draft Express. Gives the plus and minus

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Nike-Hoop-Summit-Scouting-Reports-Forwards-5434

One of the best assets we have in our program is Todd. Give him a year to build Kostas strength up and he will have that strength he needs.

Even if we don't sign Kostas,  I like all the big guys we are looking at and hope we can get one. I am very bullish on Gill.

 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on April 17, 2016, 04:50:03 PM
Todd needs to step it up.  We looked like skinny high school kids competing against NFL teams last year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 17, 2016, 04:53:11 PM
Todd needs to step it up.  We looked like skinny high school kids competing against NFL teams last year.
Matt Heldt  lost significant body fat and gained 20 pounds of muscle. That alone was a victory.

This is going to be a big workout summer for Luke.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: forgetful on April 17, 2016, 05:07:47 PM
Todd needs to step it up.  We looked like skinny high school kids competing against NFL teams last year.

Some of these things are more complicated than they seem.  Buzz recruited length (wingspan), our roster right now is build of people with length. Wojo comes from the ACC, where officiating and style of play favors length.  The BEAST favors brute strength. 

The issue with length is that it makes building strength and mass more difficult.  Players with length have to rely on technique (leverage, where they have an advantage).  The guys that we think of as our tough/solid players (aka Crowder, Butler) actually didn't have length.

Crowder only has a +2" length, JFB was +1-2 (wingspan-height).  That is actually very small in basketball terms, where in the NBA the average is +4-6. 

Cohen for instance is +4-6. 

So for players like Cohen, it will take longer to build strength, they then also need to focus tremendously on technique and how to use their length/leverage to overcome strength/deficiencies. 

So it is not as simple as just having Todd step it up.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 17, 2016, 05:40:18 PM
Some of these things are more complicated than they seem.  Buzz recruited length (wingspan), our roster right now is build of people with length. Wojo comes from the ACC, where officiating and style of play favors length.  The BEAST favors brute strength. 

The issue with length is that it makes building strength and mass more difficult.  Players with length have to rely on technique (leverage, where they have an advantage).  The guys that we think of as our tough/solid players (aka Crowder, Butler) actually didn't have length.

Crowder only has a +2" length, JFB was +1-2 (wingspan-height).  That is actually very small in basketball terms, where in the NBA the average is +4-6. 

Cohen for instance is +4-6. 

So for players like Cohen, it will take longer to build strength, they then also need to focus tremendously on technique and how to use their length/leverage to overcome strength/deficiencies. 

So it is not as simple as just having Todd step it up.
I have been in the Al and watched the guys going through their training, it is very well done. They put a heavy emphasis on technique which as you point out is key. I think this summer will be very helpful for quite a few of our guys.

Having the year off certainly helped Rowsey get stronger.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Taint on April 17, 2016, 05:53:51 PM
That call was bullcrap. The dunk was amazing. So that's why it will continue to be referenced.

You can't coach that kind of athleticism and length in a prospect like Kostas.  If there ever was a player to take a flyer on - Kostas is exactly the kind a coach should.  Fundamentals, shooting, and the rest can all be taught and improved.  God-given length and athleticism and family genes - not so much.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 3/15
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 17, 2016, 06:01:26 PM
2019 (18 potentially?) Matthew Hurt continues to rise for me (nh).

Good grief. The wrist. Lovely.

I'd love to see Wojo go after this kid.  Already has an offer from Iowa State.  Looking forward to seeing some big time coaches in Rochester the next couple of seasons.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Jay Bee on April 17, 2016, 06:18:50 PM
The guys that we think of as our tough/solid players (aka Crowder, Butler) actually didn't have length.

Crowder only has a +2" length

Want to double-check that and let us know what you find?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 17, 2016, 06:29:12 PM
You can't coach that kind of athleticism and length in a prospect like Kostas.  If there ever was a player to take a flyer on - Kostas is exactly the kind a coach should.  Fundamentals, shooting, and the rest can all be taught and improved.  God-given length and athleticism and family genes - not so much.
I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: BM1090 on April 17, 2016, 06:40:04 PM
Want to double-check that and let us know what you find?

IIRC Jae measured between 6'4 and 6'5 but has a 6'9 wingspan
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Jay Bee on April 17, 2016, 06:44:23 PM
IIRC Jae measured between 6'4 and 6'5 but has a 6'9 wingspan

That sounds about right. Not sure what forgetful is thinking.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: forgetful on April 17, 2016, 06:50:06 PM
IIRC Jae measured between 6'4 and 6'5 but has a 6'9 wingspan

I was looking at his height with shoes on accident (6'6"), and a 6'8.5" wingspan. 

Even if we go with 6'5" for height, he's still below average length 3.5" for the NBA.

Much of Crowder's length is also due to a wide frame.  Standing reach is only 8'4".  Vander Blue for instance has only a 6'6" wingspan but an 8'5" reach. 

Often times it is the difference in Frame that is the big issue.  One of the best examples is Wade (strong).

6'4" height:  6'11" wingspan.  7"length.  But most is in his frame, standing reach of 8'6" (similar to Vander).

Makes Wade much stronger (length in frame) and still has the ridiculous length.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Jay Bee on April 17, 2016, 07:56:06 PM
Some of these things are more complicated than they seem.  Buzz recruited length (wingspan), our roster right now is build of people with length. Wojo comes from the ACC, where officiating and style of play favors length.  The BEAST favors brute strength. 

The issue with length is that it makes building strength and mass more difficult.  Players with length have to rely on technique (leverage, where they have an advantage).  The guys that we think of as our tough/solid players (aka Crowder, Butler) actually didn't have length.

Crowder only has a +2" length, JFB was +1-2 (wingspan-height).  That is actually very small in basketball terms, where in the NBA the average is +4-6. 

So.. first you're doing a comparison on Buzz & Wojo... stating that Crowder is an example of a guy who didn't have length. Then go onto say the NBA "average" is 4 to 6 inches (historical combine measurements would indicate something short of 4.5").

I was looking at his height with shoes on accident (6'6"), and a 6'8.5" wingspan. 

Even if we go with 6'5" for height, he's still below average length 3.5" for the NBA.

How about we go with his NBA Draft Combine measurements? 6'9.25" less 6'4.75", or a +4.5"... in other words, average or slightly higher than average.

Often times it is the difference in Frame that is the big issue.  One of the best examples is Wade (strong).

6'4" height:  6'11" wingspan.  7"length.  But most is in his frame, standing reach of 8'6" (similar to Vander).

Makes Wade much stronger (length in frame) and still has the ridiculous length.

Well, so much for the Buzz vs. Wojo stuff.. but as for Wojo... you think he's some length guy? He's a traditional guy, which doesn't bode well for your argument.. Henry is about a 4" (nh), which is fairly lengthy for a traditional.. Luke? Matt? Rowsey? Katin? Where's all this crazy length vs. height you speak of??
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: forgetful on April 17, 2016, 08:59:40 PM
So.. first you're doing a comparison on Buzz & Wojo... stating that Crowder is an example of a guy who didn't have length. Then go onto say the NBA "average" is 4 to 6 inches (historical combine measurements would indicate something short of 4.5").

No, I'm commenting on only Buzz, who loved to recruit length.  I also commented on the ACC, which loves to recruit NBA style length.  The BEAST is a different style.  Only reason I mentioned Wojo, was because he's our coach.

The whole point is that someone mentioned that Todd has to do a better job, but that is not the case.  Cohen has unusual length 6.7% of height (puts him at elite status), most of which is in the arms (small frame think Tayshaun Prince).  That means small frame, weaker build, but more leverage.  Todd can't fix that.  It has to focus on technique. 

You are too stuck on me looking at the wrong height (w/shoes), and wanting to argue for the sake of arguing.  Instead of focusing on the point, i.e. body structure and strength.

And the historical average in the NBA, per combine measurements is 4.8".

So lets drop this and focus on recruiting. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: naginiF on April 17, 2016, 09:55:04 PM
I agree with this analysis.
now you're just being a parody of yourself
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 18, 2016, 07:54:01 AM
Okay, I've put in Ike for '17.  I'd appreciate any input, especially on '16 where the only Frosh I think we're truly after is Kalif.  Clean-up help appreciated.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: brewcity77 on April 18, 2016, 08:01:44 AM
Okay, I've put in Ike for '17.  I'd appreciate any input, especially on '16 where the only Frosh I think we're truly after is Kalif.  Clean-up help appreciated.

I would include Eron Gordon for 2016. He recently stated that Marquette, Seton Hall, and Missouri are the ones most interested right now.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2016/04/15/whats-next-eron-gordons-recruitment/83088190/
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Trio-of-schools-involved-with-Eron-Gordon-44825695

I'm not sure why a 6'2" guard is still a priority, but his comments came after Marquette had already secured a commitment from Markus Howard. Younger brother of NBA PG Eric Gordon. Can shoot and dish, but probably more of a 2 than a 1 right now.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Jay Bee on April 18, 2016, 08:06:04 AM
I would include Eron Gordon for 2016. He recently stated that Marquette, Seton Hall, and Missouri are the ones most interested right now.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2016/04/15/whats-next-eron-gordons-recruitment/83088190/
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Trio-of-schools-involved-with-Eron-Gordon-44825695

I'm not sure why a 6'2" guard is still a priority, but his comments came after Marquette had already secured a commitment from Markus Howard. Younger brother of NBA PG Eric Gordon. Can shoot and dish, but probably more of a 2 than a 1 right now.

I believe many kids are inclined to add / keep their list as "good" as they can...

If he had said, "MU called after they got Howard and said they still see me as a great fit and want me" that's one thing... but to answer, "oh, the schools recruiting me the hardest? blah, blah, Marquette, blah, blah" is something very different.

Note: I don't know what MU's current thoughts are on Gordon.. just saying I wouldn't take what he said the other day to mean more than it probably does... (e.g., in fairly recent times - the past couple of months, he had heard from MU a lot)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: brewcity77 on April 18, 2016, 08:10:13 AM
I believe many kids are inclined to add / keep their list as "good" as they can...

If he had said, "MU called after they got Howard and said they still see me as a great fit and want me" that's one thing... but to answer, "oh, the schools recruiting me the hardest? blah, blah, Marquette, blah, blah" is something very different.

Note: I don't know what MU's current thoughts are on Gordon.. just saying I wouldn't take what he said the other day to mean more than it probably does... (e.g., in fairly recent times - the past couple of months, he had heard from MU a lot)

That's totally fair, and probably accurate. Just pointing out that there were a few articles out there from 3 days ago, after Howard's commitment, and he's still citing Marquette. No idea how serious we are for him, and personally I don't see the fit at all right now, but based on the most recent stuff published, he could probably be on the list of 2016 targets.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 18, 2016, 08:11:38 AM
Thanks guys, I really do appreciate it.  Think I'll keep him off the list.  I'd be really surprised if he had been anything but a back up for Markus.  Frankly, I feel the same way now about Vital but I won't strike him off the list until we hear something.  Anything new on Hicks?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: BossplayaOtto on April 18, 2016, 12:37:20 PM
now you're just being a parody of yourself

I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 18, 2016, 08:25:58 PM
Kalif Young starts his first official visit tmr @ Alabama
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 19, 2016, 10:41:12 AM
Marquette offered 2018 5* pf Simi craptu in an effort to further destroy the Marquette culture.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: brewcity77 on April 19, 2016, 10:43:43 AM
Marquette offered 2018 5* pf Simi craptu in an effort to further destroy the Marquette culture.

If he ends up here, may need to adjust the swearing filter.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: wadesworld on April 19, 2016, 10:59:18 AM
Marquette offered 2018 5* pf Simi craptu in an effort to further destroy the Marquette culture.

A pipeline of bigs from Canada on the way, ai'na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MU82 on April 19, 2016, 11:14:14 AM
The BEAST is a different style.

What is the current national champion's style?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MuMark on April 19, 2016, 11:30:53 AM
Marquette offered 2018 5* pf Simi craptu in an effort to further destroy the Marquette culture.

FWIW MU offered him 2 months ago...https://twitter.com/ShowtimeNation/status/698904207638695936
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 19, 2016, 12:28:44 PM
We're just going to call him his scoop name for 4 years!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 19, 2016, 12:35:34 PM


  Anthony Polite  SG  Boca Raton  interest from MU and VA, Duke, and others.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 19, 2016, 12:37:25 PM
Sorry 2017 Recruit.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: barfolomew on April 19, 2016, 12:51:40 PM
We're just going to call him his scoop name for 4 years!

Let's just hope Wojo doesn't go after this guy or heads on this board will explode.

http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball-recruiting/ri/providence/paul-cuffee/mayowa-right (http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball-recruiting/ri/providence/paul-cuffee/mayowa-right)

EDIT: Damn filter!  Replace "right" at the end of the URL with "a i n a"
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 19, 2016, 01:04:37 PM
Let's just hope Wojo doesn't go after this guy or heads on this board will explode.

http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball-recruiting/ri/providence/paul-cuffee/mayowa-right (http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball-recruiting/ri/providence/paul-cuffee/mayowa-right)

EDIT: Damn filter!  Replace "right" at the end of the URL with "a i n a"

We'd probably have to call him "He who shall not be named."
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on April 19, 2016, 01:40:47 PM
Sorry 2017 Recruit.

They count too.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on April 19, 2016, 01:45:22 PM
Let's just hope Wojo doesn't go after this guy or heads on this board will explode.

http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball-recruiting/ri/providence/paul-cuffee/mayowa-right (http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball-recruiting/ri/providence/paul-cuffee/mayowa-right)

EDIT: Damn filter!  Replace "right" at the end of the URL with "a i n a"

THAT was an awesome find.  Even if being a 6'1" 160 lb PF wasn't limiting enough, he'd soon be disqualified by the NCAA for improper benefits after it was revealed that 4ever gave him anything and everything for free.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: barfolomew on April 19, 2016, 02:33:28 PM
THAT was an awesome find.  Even if being a 6'1" 160 lb PF wasn't limiting enough, he'd soon be disqualified by the NCAA for improper benefits after it was revealed that 4ever gave him anything and everything for free.

Not just a PF -- also plays some center!
Now that's a switchable.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 19, 2016, 04:54:07 PM
Corey Evans ‏@coreyevans_10  4h4 hours ago
West Virginia head coach Bob Huggins is expected in today for 2018 Kaukauna guard Jordan McCabe
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: williewarrior on April 19, 2016, 05:13:20 PM
We need more PG's....because...it is a guard's game!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: wadesworld on April 19, 2016, 08:04:20 PM
Corey Evans ‏@coreyevans_10  4h4 hours ago
West Virginia head coach Bob Huggins is expected in today for 2018 Kaukauna guard Jordan McCabe

Huggins is just excited to have a kid old enough to throw one back with while recruiting him!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 19, 2016, 08:41:18 PM
Sooo... Kalif Young didn't make his visit to Bama today. Odd recruitment. Still has 5 official visits in his pocket
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 19, 2016, 08:44:24 PM
Sooo... Kalif Young didn't make his visit to Bama today. Odd recruitment. Still has 5 official visits in his pocket

Weird.  I guess he just wants to wait to see Wojo.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: cheebs09 on April 19, 2016, 09:09:42 PM
Weird.  I guess he just wants to wait to see Wojo.

Likely waiting to see about our possible home and home with Alabama
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 20, 2016, 07:25:35 AM
Andrew Slater ‏@ASlater247  10h10 hours ago New York, USA
Marquette University offered Hasahn French'17 @Hasahn22 of @PSACardinals & @CATornados tonight #mubb
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 20, 2016, 08:40:49 PM
Anyone care to summarize this 247 piece on Kalif? http://alabama.247sports.com/Board/116/Contents/-Note-on-2016-C-Kalif-Young--44912901
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GB Warrior on April 20, 2016, 09:12:17 PM
Anyone care to summarize this 247 piece on Kalif? http://alabama.247sports.com/Board/116/Contents/-Note-on-2016-C-Kalif-Young--44912901

They're very worried they're going to become SLU and join the Southern Conference.

Also, they really like Kalif but are worried about hurting some of their other players' feelings by recruiting over them, so they're pretty content to mire in mediocrity.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on April 20, 2016, 09:28:47 PM
Anyone care to summarize this 247 piece on Kalif? http://alabama.247sports.com/Board/116/Contents/-Note-on-2016-C-Kalif-Young--44912901

Nothing much. Just confirmed that Young cancelled his trip to Alabama. Says they are working to reschedule for a future date. The bama faithful don't seem confident he'll ever actually visit. Its an interesting recruitment, he has now cancelled his visits to both Providence and Alabama. Has yet to reschedule either. If he keeps his MU visit, could be a sign we are in the driver's seat
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 20, 2016, 09:37:02 PM
Nothing much. Just confirmed that Young cancelled his trip to Alabama. Says they are working to reschedule for a future date. The bama faithful don't seem confident he'll ever actually visit. Its an interesting recruitment, he has now cancelled his visits to both Providence and Alabama. Has yet to reschedule either. If he keeps his MU visit, could be a sign we are in the driver's seat

Thanks TAMU
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MomofMUltiples on April 20, 2016, 09:37:32 PM
#donedeal
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MU82 on April 20, 2016, 09:39:45 PM
Likely waiting to see about our possible home and home with Alabama

Nicely done. You beat me to it.

Except I don't believe in teal.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 21, 2016, 06:34:59 AM
#donedeal

Are you hearing something mom or is this speculation on your part?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 21, 2016, 07:05:54 AM
Sooo... Kalif Young didn't make his visit to Bama today. Odd recruitment. Still has 5 official visits in his pocket

I'm still inclined to think Wojo will expect a commitment immediately (like within 48 hours) or will move on.  Kalif isn't taking 5 visits if he want to come to MU.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Jay Bee on April 21, 2016, 09:06:06 AM
glow or someone.. please consider adding the recruit's current travel team in the OP?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Waldo Jeffers on April 21, 2016, 10:11:53 AM
Nicely done. You beat me to it.

Except I don't believe in God or teal.

what do you believe in?  ;D
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 21, 2016, 11:06:33 AM
glow or someone.. please consider adding the recruit's current travel team in the OP?

I'll add it if you'll get me that info, especially as it pertains to guys with serious offers.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 21, 2016, 06:05:49 PM
Andre McMurray ‏@Coachmcmurray  Apr 20 Melville, IL
Marquette University will be in to see Torrence Watson today! @Rameybasketball
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on April 21, 2016, 06:13:36 PM
Andre McMurray ‏@Coachmcmurray  Apr 20 Melville, IL
Marquette University will be in to see Torrence Watson today! @Rameybasketball

Class of 2018 recruit from Suburban St. Louis.  6'4" shooting guard

AAU Team:  Team Ramey

Needs work on his three point shot according to Future 150.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: BM1090 on April 21, 2016, 07:21:27 PM
Mark Miller predicted 2017 PF Hasahn French to MU

http://247sports.com/Player/Hasahn-French-86135

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzWD63cUxkU from 2 years ago but all I could find
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 21, 2016, 07:29:36 PM
Okay, just put French on the list.

Hey mom!  You shout #donedeal on the recruiting thread and then crickets........  C'mon moooooooom.

(Said like a junior high girl.)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: warriorchick on April 21, 2016, 08:03:40 PM
Okay, just put French on the list.

Hey mom!  You shout #donedeal on the recruiting thread and then crickets........  C'mon moooooooom.

(Said like a junior high girl.)

But not like a girl who went to junior high with Prince.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GGGG on April 21, 2016, 08:09:11 PM
Mark Miller predicted 2017 PF Hasahn French to MU

http://247sports.com/Player/Hasahn-French-86135

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzWD63cUxkU from 2 years ago but all I could find


So IF Hasahn commits...

and IF we sign his younger one-and-done quality brother...

and IF Wojo pole-axes Hasahn...

can I use this image?

(https://a3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/123/d5d07ac1f7e548b08bcd69fe040f25c6/300x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on April 21, 2016, 08:17:26 PM
Don't get ahead of yourself, let's see if he fills out his application in time, first.


So IF Hasahn commits...

and IF we sign his younger one-and-done quality brother...

and IF Wojo pole-axes Hasahn...

can I use this image?

(https://a3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/123/d5d07ac1f7e548b08bcd69fe040f25c6/300x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 24, 2016, 06:50:58 PM
Some random tweets for those of you not on it:

Mark Miller ‏@WisBBYearbook  3h3 hours ago
Joey Hauser (6-8) helped Iowa Barnstormers to a 5-0 record in Atlanta this weekend. 2018 F is top ranked player in his class in WI.

Mark Miller ‏@WisBBYearbook  3h3 hours ago
Marquette, Iowa, Creighton Virginia, North Dakota, South Dakota State and Northwestern watched Joey Hauser of Stevens Point in Atlanta.

Jeff Borzello ‏@jeffborzello  5h5 hours ago
ESPN 60 Ira Lee had California, Texas and Stanford in last week. Oregon, Arizona, USC and Marquette also on his list.

Andrew Slater ‏@ASlater247  8h8 hours ago Indiana, USA
Purdue, Duke, UConn, UNC, Michigan St., Marquette, ND, Georgetown, DePaul for @RENShoops vs @indy_heat

Endless Motor Sports ‏@endless_motor  10h10 hours ago
Donnie Tillman (17) with double-double vs EP Louisiana 13pts & 10 Rebs & 1 block in front of coaches from Marquette, USC, Cal, Nc ST

Tony Irons ‏@Coach_MadPrep  Apr 20
Marquette coaches Steve wojciechowski and Chris Carrawell; Creighton coach Steve Lutz visited Vashon today

Coach David Williams ‏@Dwilliams1515  21h21 hours ago
At the EYBL today I saw Head coaches from North Carolina West Virginia Villanova Texas UCLA Marquette Syracuse Gonzaga Michigan Florida#EYBL
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 24, 2016, 07:25:50 PM
Rackin' up them frequent flyin' miles, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on April 24, 2016, 08:14:32 PM
Looks like the Hauser brothers will make us forget about the Rice Lake kids.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on April 24, 2016, 11:03:08 PM
Looks like the Hauser brothers will make us forget about the Rice Lake kids.

Why would we want to forget about them?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: shoothoops on April 25, 2016, 05:35:01 AM
Related to the above post about recruiting...Marquette offered 6'8 front court player Levi Stockard (2017).  Plays for St. Louis Gateway aau and Vashon High School, reigning small school state champs in MO.  He formerly played for same coach at Madison prep and followed him to Vashon.  Has recently been picking up offers, Cincy, New Mexico etc...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 25, 2016, 06:53:45 AM
Thanks for the Stockard information.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 25, 2016, 08:00:29 AM
Related to the above post about recruiting...Marquette offered 6'8 front court player Levi Stockard (2017).  Plays for St. Louis Gateway aau and Vashon High School, reigning small school state champs in MO.  He formerly played for same coach at Madison prep and followed him to Vashon.  Has recently been picking up offers, Cincy, New Mexico etc...

This kid is 6-8 245 and a good football player. He goes right to the top of the list.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 25, 2016, 08:13:25 AM
Verbal Commits has him as a 2-star and 247 seems not to list him.  Did he blow up this year and his ratings don't reflect?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: shoothoops on April 25, 2016, 11:15:08 AM
He slimmed down quite a bit.  Played well in Dallas recently and elsewhere.  Plays on a good solid AAU team Gateway, without a lot of superstars, but some d-1 players.  St. Louis Eagles, (last year Tatum, Cook, etc...and often higher profile types), Ramey have a few of those star level players including 2018 big man Carte'Are Gordon on Ramey.(plays with previously mentioned Torrence Watson and others) Stockard has always been good, but is on the way up recently. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Jay Bee on April 25, 2016, 11:33:39 AM
He slimmed down quite a bit.  Played well in Dallas recently and elsewhere.  Plays on a good solid AAU team Gateway, without a lot of superstars, but some d-1 players.  St. Louis Eagles, (last year Tatum, Cook, etc...and often higher profile types), Ramey have a few of those star level players including 2018 big man Carte'Are Gordon on Ramey.(plays with previously mentioned Torrence Watson and others) Stockard has always been good, but is on the way up recently.

Shooting 32.3% on free throws in adidas play. Perfect!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: barfolomew on April 25, 2016, 12:31:06 PM
Shooting 32.3% on free throws in adidas play. Perfect!

#AllFreeThrowsMatter
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: KampusFoods on April 25, 2016, 12:45:14 PM
Shooting 32.3% on free throws in adidas play. Perfect!

Only makes the easy free throws?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 25, 2016, 12:49:59 PM
Shooting 32.3% on free throws in adidas play. Perfect!

Free throws don't matter, bro.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: brandx on April 25, 2016, 01:05:36 PM
Shooting 32.3% on free throws in adidas play. Perfect!

Unimportant 8-)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 25, 2016, 03:00:39 PM
Not because I've heard anything but I decided to strike Hicks.  I guess it's because I haven't heard anything and he seems to be a Providence lean.  Funny how both he and Kalif were on both our radar.  I don't believe MU ever offered Hicks but I'm happy to be corrected.  Also reading that Kostas is a Johnnies lean (without an offer yet) so it'll be interesting if they all end up competing.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 25, 2016, 07:03:06 PM
Two new 2017 offers:

Nate Watson 6'8, DC Premier

Makhtar Gueye 6'9 Mass Rivals
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 25, 2016, 07:43:26 PM
Two new 2017 offers:

Nate Watson 6'8, DC Premier

Makhtar Gueye 6'9 Mass Rivals

How many we got for 17 again?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 25, 2016, 07:45:14 PM
Had some of dat Gueye on a ham sandwich. Awesome, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: tower912 on April 25, 2016, 07:46:29 PM
Am I the only who has noticed that after having a very small set of targets for the first two years at MU, it now appears that Wojo is following the Buzz model and offering everybody?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MuMark on April 25, 2016, 07:47:27 PM
How many we got for 17 again?

3.....Luke, JJ, and Reinhardt
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 25, 2016, 07:48:39 PM
Fahrenheit 451, right from da school of throwin' chit up 'gainst da wall, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: tower912 on April 25, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Right from da school of throwin' chit up 'gainst da wall, ai na?

Without the last minute JUCO we never saw coming who turns out to be NBA material.   
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 25, 2016, 07:51:05 PM
Am I the only who has noticed that after having a very small set of targets for the first two years at MU, it now appears that Wojo is following the Buzz model and offering everybody?

So maybe its not a 10 year plan after all.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MuMark on April 25, 2016, 07:51:46 PM
Am I the only who has noticed that after having a very small set of targets for the first two years at MU, it now appears that Wojo is following the Buzz model and offering everybody?

He knows we need bigs.....he isn't going to,get caught short in case the top targets say no.

I think you can be a bit more selective if you get an early verbal or 2.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 25, 2016, 08:02:48 PM
Prentiss Hubb, 6'2 guard, from DC (Gonzaga) 2018. Picks up MU offer as well
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GGGG on April 25, 2016, 08:15:01 PM
3.....Luke, JJ, and Reinhardt


Well we might have 4 if we use Wally's scholarship on a grad transfer like Gill.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: real chili 83 on April 25, 2016, 08:34:36 PM
Had some of dat Gueye on a ham sandwich. Awesome, hey?

Grains. Going nuts, eh?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on April 25, 2016, 11:41:55 PM
Prentiss Hubb, 6'2 guard, from DC (Gonzaga) 2018. Picks up MU offer as well

We need keefe's okay on this, Gonzaga is a big rival of his alma mater.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 26, 2016, 12:01:22 AM
Two new 2017 offers:

Nate Watson 6'8, DC Premier

Makhtar Gueye 6'9 Mass Rivals
Excellent keep offering
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MUWarrior4Life on April 26, 2016, 06:54:48 AM
Excellent keep offering
Ditto
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on April 26, 2016, 08:46:43 AM
It seems that offers are getting flung out there like frisbees!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on April 26, 2016, 08:50:25 AM
It seems that offers are getting flung out there like frisbees!

Offers are great, but visits are the key, you have no chance with any of these kids without them visiting.  I would throw out offers to everybody and see if I could get
15 on campus, I think that is the max. per school.  With the new arena going up in 2 years, I would think Wojo will have a big sales tool to get them here.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 26, 2016, 08:53:52 AM
And recall that 'way back when' I asked everyone to help me keep the chart to those we were truly in line for.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 26, 2016, 08:59:08 AM
So as of today is there any evidence we're talking to anyone besides Kalif and Gill for the '16 slot anymore?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MUfan12 on April 26, 2016, 09:21:54 AM
So as of today is there any evidence we're talking to anyone besides Kalif and Gill for the '16 slot anymore?

Nope. Those two seem to be the targets.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Jay Bee on April 26, 2016, 11:03:04 AM
Offers are great, but visits are the key, you have no chance with any of these kids without them visiting.

Yeah, no one would ever commit without visiting.

I would throw out offers to everybody and see if I could get
15 on campus, I think that is the max. per school. 

Max officials in a year is 12.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: keefe on April 26, 2016, 11:16:57 AM
Yeah, no one would ever commit without visiting.

Max officials in a year is 12.

The problem JB is that a lot of guys just want that free trip to Milwaukee
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MuMark on April 26, 2016, 03:09:13 PM
Another guy to keep an eye on for 2017...Jamal Cain

http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1664417-cain-emerging-spring
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 26, 2016, 04:47:00 PM
Okay, no one has suggested we've ended our Kalif recruitment but I wonder if Wojo has any further feelers out there for another '16 eligible big besides Gill?  Keep your ears open.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 26, 2016, 05:09:40 PM
Okay, no one has suggested we've ended our Kalif recruitment but I wonder if Wojo has any further feelers out there for another '16 eligible big besides Gill?  Keep your ears open.
I heard there was a 6-10 kid over at Dominican that might be available next year...... ;D
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: BM1090 on April 26, 2016, 05:15:18 PM
I heard there was a 6-10 kid over at Dominican that might be available next year...... ;D

Any 6'10 guys that are any good?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 26, 2016, 05:31:15 PM

Jeff Borzello ‏@jeffborzello  5h5 hours ago
ESPN 60 Ira Lee had California, Texas and Stanford in last week. Oregon, Arizona, USC and Marquette also on his list.


Offered by Kansas today
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 26, 2016, 07:21:20 PM
Any 6'10 guys that are any good?
Maybe we can find a guy like this who was passed over.

http://www.crailsheim-merlins.de/bundesliga/team/matt-stainbrook
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MuMark on April 26, 2016, 07:48:50 PM
https://twitter.com/bluechip_miller/status/725121662446764032
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 26, 2016, 07:51:21 PM
Nice ta hear Marquette mentioned in da same sentence wit Harvard, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 26, 2016, 07:56:33 PM
Nice ta hear Marquette mentioned in da same sentence wit Harvard, ai na?

We get mentioned with the rodents all the time.

Oh...you mean the other Harvard.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 26, 2016, 08:08:47 PM
Jsglow,

Darius Hicks will commit on May 7th between Cincy, MIZZ, Tulane
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 26, 2016, 08:10:50 PM
Cool.  Thanks for the info.  I already had him struck.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: wildbillsb on April 26, 2016, 08:13:19 PM
We get mentioned with the rodents all the time.

Oh...you mean the other Harvard.


+100!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on April 26, 2016, 08:45:45 PM
https://twitter.com/bluechip_miller/status/725121662446764032

Jay Bee, he's in your nick of the woods. What say you?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 26, 2016, 08:47:34 PM
Jay Bee, he's in your nick of the woods. What say you?
We need to get our US News rating up to compete for kids like this.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 26, 2016, 08:48:18 PM
Jay Bee, he's in your nick of the woods. What say you?

Not JB...but. Huge ND family connect. Otherwise I'd say rodents in drivers seat pending ND offer.

Lose - lose if that scenario holds true
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Jay Bee on April 26, 2016, 09:06:59 PM
Jay Bee, he's in your nick of the woods. What say you?

Becky has a great chance, as do the Domers.

He's.. a traditional... active, does a lot for his size. Elite? Nah. Looks like the prototype becky kid from MN that does extremely well. Lots of skill.

And I like his program. He's with Jericho, McKinley, Matthew, etc
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: muhoops1 on April 26, 2016, 09:09:42 PM
Connor Basch Tweeted this today....

2018 could be another big recruiting class for #mubb. Rumors swirling around high recruits Joey Hauser, Ira Lee, Simi craptu, & Jalen Smith.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: wadesworld on April 26, 2016, 09:33:12 PM
Connor Basch Tweeted this today....

2018 could be another big recruiting class for #mubb. Rumors swirling around high recruits Joey Hauser, Ira Lee, Simi craptu, & Jalen Smith.

Who is Connor Basch?  And any idea what the rumors swirling around may be?  That we're favorites for some/all of them?  Or just there's some mutual interest?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GGGG on April 26, 2016, 09:39:46 PM
Who is Connor Basch?  And any idea what the rumors swirling around may be?  That we're favorites for some/all of them?  Or just there's some mutual interest?

According to his Twitter profile, Connor is...

"@Bucks PR Gameday Intern | Former @indyeleven PR intern | @MarquetteU 18 | Aspiring Sportscaster | @MUWomensSoccer & @MarquetteMBB PBP for @MU_Wire | "

In other words, he might as well be reading Scoop and putting it out in a tweet.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on April 26, 2016, 09:52:01 PM
Connor Basch Tweeted this today....

2018 could be another big recruiting class for #mubb. Rumors swirling around high recruits Joey Hauser, Ira Lee, Simi craptu, & Jalen Smith.

Why didn't his tweet mention Tyler Herro???  OMG, are we not emphasizing this once in a lifetime talent???
AGGGGG!!!!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MuMark on April 26, 2016, 10:00:53 PM
I believe we have a legitimate chance at 1 of those players.

I think rumors are him seeing on Twitter that we have offered those players.

Simi is a top 10 player.......not from the state...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: wadesworld on April 26, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
According to his Twitter profile, Connor is...

"@Bucks PR Gameday Intern | Former @indyeleven PR intern | @MarquetteU 18 | Aspiring Sportscaster | @MUWomensSoccer & @MarquetteMBB PBP for @MU_Wire | "

In other words, he might as well be reading Scoop and putting it out in a tweet.

Makes sense, thanks.

I believe we have a legitimate chance at 1 of those players.

I think rumors are him seeing on Twitter that we have offered those players.

Simi is a top 10 player.......not from the state...

I'm assuming the one you think we have a legitimate shot at is Joey? I certainly wouldn't be disappointed with that...

Something to keep in mind is we're expecting to add Bailey with that class.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Marcus92 on April 26, 2016, 10:23:52 PM
Max officials in a year is 12.

I never knew that before. I wonder how many recruits actually take official visits to Marquette during the typical recruiting season. Twelve actually seems like a lot, given that we'll only sign 3 or 4 players each year. But I have no idea.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: mubb3434 on April 27, 2016, 05:38:41 AM
Looks like we have offered 2017 6'10 PF Nathan Reuvers from Lakeville North in Minnesota. Currently has about 23 D1 offers. Crystal ball has him picking Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: barfolomew on April 27, 2016, 03:05:34 PM
Not to ironically drag this thread off-topic, but congrats to all of MUScoop for reaching a 50-page thread!
Most replies, most pages, and third-most views.

Impressive that this thread has avoided becoming either outdated, fatally off-topic, or mod-locked.
Treat yourselves tonight, Scoopers. You deserve it.

Now, back to recruiting...

Let's say for argument's sake that we lose out on both Gill and Young.
Chances of filling that schollie for 2016 go way down.

What does Wojo do in that instance? Bank it? Invite Wally back? Either option would be problematic.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GGGG on April 27, 2016, 03:06:33 PM
Bank it.  If Wally can't commit this summer he can't commit.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 27, 2016, 03:08:54 PM
Amazing Craptastical Thread 3.0?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: brewcity77 on April 27, 2016, 03:51:15 PM
What does Wojo do in that instance? Bank it? Invite Wally back? Either option would be problematic.

My guess is there are other grad transfers they would look at. Of course, I thought that last year and after Lee and Miller, we didn't poke around too hard, but I definitely feel when you look at this Spring and 2017 as far as targets, the staff knows they need to add size and strength inside. Hard to imagine they'd go forward with the roster as is, especially after the Wally situation.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 27, 2016, 04:05:33 PM
Not to ironically drag this thread off-topic, but congrats to all of MUScoop for reaching a 50-page thread!
Most replies, most pages, and third-most views.

Since you went OT...it might hold records on the Al board, but only #7 for replies site-wide...not even on the top 10 views.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=stats
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: moomoo on April 27, 2016, 04:10:43 PM
RT @BamaBasketball: Just an Update on Kalif Young Situation: Providence had F Alpha Diallo commit yesterday filling out their 2016 Class.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: fjm on April 27, 2016, 04:15:05 PM
Have you guys ever had the French fries and gravy in Canada? If I was kalif I wouldn't leave either.

But seriously, whatever is going on with him, hopefully he gets everything figured out for his sake.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Black Swan on April 27, 2016, 04:24:12 PM
I have heard that MU feels very, very good about their chances with Joey Hauser. The worry is if Duke and the like come in, otherwise they are pretty confident.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 27, 2016, 04:25:45 PM
Not to ironically drag this thread off-topic, but congrats to all of MUScoop for reaching a 50-page thread!
Most replies, most pages, and third-most views.

Impressive that this thread has avoided becoming either outdated, fatally off-topic, or mod-locked.
Treat yourselves tonight, Scoopers. You deserve it.

Now, back to recruiting...

Let's say for argument's sake that we lose out on both Gill and Young.
Chances of filling that schollie for 2016 go way down.

What does Wojo do in that instance? Bank it? Invite Wally back? Either option would be problematic.

Well said.  Thanks everyone.  I really think it's been a pretty good tool.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 27, 2016, 04:27:44 PM
RT @BamaBasketball: Just an Update on Kalif Young Situation: Providence had F Alpha Diallo commit yesterday filling out their 2016 Class.

That's actually pretty big news.  Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: LAZER on April 27, 2016, 04:36:58 PM
I have heard that MU feels very, very good about their chances with Joey Hauser. The worry is if Duke and the like come in, otherwise they are pretty confident.

The blue bloods will come eventually (assuming he keeps playing at a high level).
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on April 27, 2016, 04:40:18 PM
Since you went OT...it might hold records on the Al board, but only #7 for replies site-wide...not even on the top 10 views.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=stats

The stat that jumped out to me is that Heisty is a mere 25 new threads behind Chicos.   :o

Damn, I should have kept my mouth shut.   :-X 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 27, 2016, 04:47:00 PM
Per Twitter there is a Kalif Young piece of info in this:

http://alabama.247sports.com/Article/VIP-Notes-Updates-on-hoops-targets-transfers--45040782

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on April 27, 2016, 05:24:25 PM
That's actually pretty big news.  Thanks for the update.

They can cut a player if they want, or is Bentl counted in the 13, or Junior Lombamba?  Or for that matter, Kris Dunn?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on April 27, 2016, 05:32:38 PM
Per Twitter there is a Kalif Young piece of info in this:

http://alabama.247sports.com/Article/VIP-Notes-Updates-on-hoops-targets-transfers--45040782

Nothing new. Says he plans to reschedule his visit to Bama. Mentions that he cancelled his Marquette visit.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on April 27, 2016, 05:40:13 PM
They can cut a player if they want, or is Bentl counted in the 13, or Junior Lombamba?  Or for that matter, Kris Dunn?

They are currently at -1 scholarships. This doesn't include Dunn or Lomomba. It does include Bentil. If Bentil comes back, they will need to cut a player to make room for Diallo.

I would say they are likely going to move on from Mr. Young if Bentil comes back. If Bentil goes pro and Young is still around, they might revisit him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 27, 2016, 05:45:55 PM
Have you guys ever had the French fries and gravy in Canada? If I was kalif I wouldn't leave either.

But seriously, whatever is going on with him, hopefully he gets everything figured out for his sake.

Poutine!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 27, 2016, 06:34:54 PM
Not to ironically drag this thread off-topic, but congrats to all of MUScoop for reaching a 50-page thread!
Most replies, most pages, and third-most views.

Impressive that this thread has avoided becoming either outdated, fatally off-topic, or mod-locked.
Treat yourselves tonight, Scoopers. You deserve it.

Now, back to recruiting...

Let's say for argument's sake that we lose out on both Gill and Young.
Chances of filling that schollie for 2016 go way down.

What does Wojo do in that instance? Bank it? Invite Wally back? Either option would be problematic.

The answer is like a nice fastball down the middle that we hit out of the park....Kostas
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: barfolomew on April 28, 2016, 10:48:23 AM
The answer is like a nice fastball down the middle that we hit out of the park....Kostas

Do you mean this guy?

http://247sports.com/Player/Kostas-Antetokounmpo-81333

Kind of surprised his name hasn't been mentioned here before...
He appears to be related to current NBA player Giannis Antetokounmpo.

I hope someone has been in contact with the MU coaching staff so that they can be made aware of this guy. Also tell them that since his relative is a rich NBA player, he may be willing to pay the cost of tuition and room/board, thereby saving a scholarship. Just throwing that out there.


Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 28, 2016, 10:57:02 AM
Do you mean this guy?

http://247sports.com/Player/Kostas-Antetokounmpo-81333

Kind of surprised his name hasn't been mentioned here before...
He appears to be related to current NBA player Giannis Antetokounmpo.

I hope someone has been in contact with the MU coaching staff so that they can be made aware of this guy. Also tell them that since his relative is a rich NBA player, he may be willing to pay the cost of tuition and room/board, thereby saving a scholarship. Just throwing that out there.

Great Recruiting Coup!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on April 28, 2016, 02:56:16 PM
Scoop has hit the Summer doldrums.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 28, 2016, 05:08:40 PM
Wojo continues passing out candy, two more offers:

2017 - Jermaine Samuels

2017 - Jordan Nwora
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Marcus92 on April 28, 2016, 05:43:46 PM
Do you mean this guy?

http://247sports.com/Player/Kostas-Antetokounmpo-81333

Kind of surprised his name hasn't been mentioned here before...
He appears to be related to current NBA player Giannis Antetokounmpo.

I hope someone has been in contact with the MU coaching staff so that they can be made aware of this guy. Also tell them that since his relative is a rich NBA player, he may be willing to pay the cost of tuition and room/board, thereby saving a scholarship. Just throwing that out there.

Two ways you could have played this one: totally over the top, or dry and understated. I think you made the right choice.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MomofMUltiples on April 28, 2016, 07:27:43 PM
http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-prospect-theo-john-feels-the-love-but-is-staying-level-headed-about-upcoming-decision/377461781/ (http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-prospect-theo-john-feels-the-love-but-is-staying-level-headed-about-upcoming-decision/377461781/)

Strib article on 2017 target Theo John.  Has a Minnesota angle, but the quote about wanting a coach that will be there when he's there is telling.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Jay Bee on April 28, 2016, 07:40:42 PM
http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-prospect-theo-john-feels-the-love-but-is-staying-level-headed-about-upcoming-decision/377461781/ (http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-prospect-theo-john-feels-the-love-but-is-staying-level-headed-about-upcoming-decision/377461781/)

Strib article on 2017 target Theo John.  Has a Minnesota angle, but the quote about wanting a coach that will be there when he's there is telling.

Understand the author.

Non-story.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: real chili 83 on April 28, 2016, 08:05:57 PM
Scoop has hit the Summer doldrums.

And it's not even outdoor fookin' season yet. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on April 28, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
And it's not even outdoor fookin' season yet.

Every season is outdoor fookin' season down here.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 28, 2016, 09:28:32 PM
Two new 2017 offers:

Nate Watson 6'8, DC Premier

Makhtar Gueye 6'9 Mass Rivals

Nate Watson picked up Kansas offer last night

Mukhtar Gueye picked up UCONN offer tonight
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on April 29, 2016, 12:49:46 AM
Nate Watson picked up Kansas offer last night

Mukhtar Gueye picked up UCONN offer tonight
They are both excellent prospects. Lets get one signed up .
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Freeport Warrior on May 01, 2016, 08:02:34 AM
The latest from IN - http://www.hoopseen.com/news/general/201605/spiece-run-n-slam-day-two-joey-hauser-s-ready-made-game
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: real chili 83 on May 01, 2016, 08:07:48 AM
Freeport, have you recovered from your trip to Mn? 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Freeport Warrior on May 01, 2016, 10:53:03 AM
Freeport, have you recovered from your trip to Mn?
Two kidney stone procedures since and I am finally feeling better. Two weeks of hell. Thx for asking.

Funny story today from 2018 recruits. Earlier in the week, an Instagram account that tracks the 2018 WI AAU players threw out a congrats to the WI United 16Us for being ranked #4 by IndiHoops. WI United is filled with some great players, but none of which are coveted by the state's "best" team WI Playground Warriors. After this Instagram is posted, Tyler Herro comments something like "that's what happens when you don't play anybody." Funny, cocky, whatever. As luck would have it, both teams win their pools at the Spiece in Fort Wayne and have to play each other last night. WI United with Carlos Curtis (Riverside), Tyrese Halliburton (Oshkosh North) and Deontae White (Mil Hamilton) sent Herro, McCabe and Co. packing last night, 76-69. Karma is a b!tch.

EDIT: WI United lost to Hauser's Barnstormers in the Patinum Div Final Four
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on May 01, 2016, 11:07:09 AM
The latest from IN - http://www.hoopseen.com/news/general/201605/spiece-run-n-slam-day-two-joey-hauser-s-ready-made-game

Hauser visiting the Badgers in May
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MomofMUltiples on May 01, 2016, 02:23:38 PM
Better to have him visit Marquette once Sam is there.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on May 01, 2016, 02:28:56 PM
Better to have him visit Marquette once Sam is there.

Hopefully while the weather is nice, wouldn't wanna spoil the ice cream truck closer. Sucks that it's the one variable Wojo can't control, but it's so crucial at the same time.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on May 01, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
Better to have him visit Marquette once Sam is there.

He will probably visit 15-25 times before he decides when Sam is there.  Like every game Sam is playing that he does not have a game or practice.  If he does not
come it will be a telling sign that MU might have problems.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on May 01, 2016, 02:37:23 PM
Better to have him visit Marquette once Sam is there.

Hey Mom,

I was just wondering, were you a MU fan prior to the MUltiples' decisions?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on May 01, 2016, 02:38:54 PM
Hopefully while the weather is nice, wouldn't wanna spoil the ice cream truck closer. Sucks that it's the one variable Wojo can't control, but it's so crucial at the same time.

When the kid's from Wisconsin, I'm skeptical that weather during the visit is much of a factor.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on May 01, 2016, 02:42:18 PM
The latest from IN - http://www.hoopseen.com/news/general/201605/spiece-run-n-slam-day-two-joey-hauser-s-ready-made-game

Hey freeport,

I noticed that further on in your linked article, there's a story about Keshawn Justice from Madison.  Have you seen him?  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: bilsu on May 01, 2016, 02:52:07 PM
Better to have him visit Marquette once Sam is there.
Joey's decision on MU might depend largely on how much Sam likes playing for Wojo.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Freeport Warrior on May 01, 2016, 03:19:07 PM
Hey freeport,

I noticed that further on in you linked article, there's a story about Keshawn Justice from Madison.  Have you seen him?  Any thoughts?
Yes. I like him a lot. He joined Playground Warriors a couple years back and I thought it was an odd choice for him. He could be the focal point on a lot of teams, but he sort of disappears in the McCabe/Herro show, especially now that they added Deiner. It's good to see him getting some pub. He is a nice kid too. I like him because he is a two-way player and he is long. He would fit a ton better on that WI United team because White and Curtis get after it just like he does. Nobody plays great D on PGW. Playground Warriors also added Will McDonald who looks to be about the same size as Justice too, so there is a lot of competition for the 3 spot. I don't know if he is MU-worthy quite yet, but certainly possible.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on May 01, 2016, 03:59:20 PM
Yes. I like him a lot. He joined Playground Warriors a couple years back and I thought it was an odd choice for him. He could be the focal point on a lot of teams, but he sort of disappears in the McCabe/Herro show, especially now that they added Deiner. It's good to see him getting some pub. He is a nice kid too. I like him because he is a two-way player and he is long. He would fit a ton better on that WI United team because White and Curtis get after it just like he does. Nobody plays great D on PGW. Playground Warriors also added Will McDonald who looks to be about the same size as Justice too, so there is a lot of competition for the 3 spot. I don't know if he is MU-worthy quite yet, but certainly possible.

I appreciate you sharing your insights.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on May 01, 2016, 04:05:59 PM
Yes. I like him a lot. He joined Playground Warriors a couple years back and I thought it was an odd choice for him. He could be the focal point on a lot of teams, but he sort of disappears in the McCabe/Herro show, especially now that they added Deiner. It's good to see him getting some pub. He is a nice kid too. I like him because he is a two-way player and he is long. He would fit a ton better on that WI United team because White and Curtis get after it just like he does. Nobody plays great D on PGW. Playground Warriors also added Will McDonald who looks to be about the same size as Justice too, so there is a lot of competition for the 3 spot. I don't know if he is MU-worthy quite yet, but certainly possible.

Completely agree Freeport, great kid. Will piggy back on this post & add MU hasn't expressed interest in the young man. He is camping at Wisconsin this summer. Hearing from them & a ton of mid majors (offers from UWGB / UWM).

The exposure playing with Herro / McCabe is helping get his name out slowly but surely
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Mannion37 on May 01, 2016, 04:06:16 PM
Not to seem anxious (ok.... who am I kidding), but has there been any feedback about Gill's visit? :o
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: wadesworld on May 01, 2016, 04:08:10 PM
Not to seem anxious (ok.... who am I kidding), but has there been any feedback about Gill's visit? :o

He silently verballed to Wojo weeks ago...and then scheduled a visit at Maryland after that...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everCrean on May 01, 2016, 04:12:04 PM
He silently verballed to Wojo weeks ago...and then scheduled a visit at Maryland after that...

                                        .....at Wojo's suggestion, so that it would look like a bigger get when he accepted MU's offer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GGGG on May 01, 2016, 04:17:28 PM
Not to seem anxious (ok.... who am I kidding), but has there been any feedback about Gill's visit? :o


Nothing. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on May 01, 2016, 05:50:14 PM
When the kid's from Wisconsin, I'm skeptical that weather during the visit is much of a factor.

You don't think cloudy skies and 55 degrees vs. 75 and sunny has an impact on a recruit's ice cream truck experience?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: connie on May 01, 2016, 06:28:23 PM
He silently verballed to Wojo weeks ago...and then scheduled a visit at Maryland after that...
Okay, I'm going to need a definition for that.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on May 01, 2016, 07:05:18 PM
Not to seem anxious (ok.... who am I kidding), but has there been any feedback about Gill's visit? :o
I heard it went well.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: naginiF on May 01, 2016, 07:33:22 PM
I heard it went well.
So Kostas doing a second shift as an Uber driver is paying off with info......nice!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Mannion37 on May 01, 2016, 08:30:17 PM
I heard it went well.

Louisville well?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: MomofMUltiples on May 01, 2016, 08:33:37 PM
Hey Mom,

I was just wondering, were you a MU fan prior to the MUltiples' decisions?

Marquette's in my blood haha.  Dad grew up in Milwaukee and even though he chose to be a badger, as was my mom, who grew up in Madison, it's been the alma mater of many aunts, uncles, cousins, my kids and cousins' kids.  I think I noted in another thread that one of my uncles - all 5'10 of him - played MUBB in 1949.  Might've gone there myself, except I got a full ride scholarship at William and Mary.

Unfortunately, W&M's athletics pretty much suck, as have the gophers, so Marquette became my go-to for basketball.  Can't wait to cheer them on to the next national championship.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on May 01, 2016, 08:34:36 PM
So Kostas doing a second shift as an Uber driver is paying off with info......nice!
I am not sure if he has a drivers license yet.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: real chili 83 on May 01, 2016, 08:44:17 PM
Marquette's in my blood haha.  Dad grew up in Milwaukee and even though he chose to be a badger, as was my mom, who grew up in Madison, it's been the alma mater of many aunts, uncles, cousins, my kids and cousins' kids.  I think I noted in another thread that one of my uncles - all 5'10 of him - played MUBB in 1949.  Might've gone there myself, except I got a full ride scholarship at William and Mary.

Unfortunately, W&M's athletics pretty much suck, as have the gophers, so Marquette became my go-to for basketball.  Can't wait to cheer them on to the next national championship.

Go Ma! 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 02, 2016, 09:22:46 AM
He silently verballed to Wojo weeks ago...and then scheduled a visit at Maryland after that...

Dude, you're not funny.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: wadesworld on May 02, 2016, 10:05:33 AM
Dude, you're not funny.

'preciate it.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GGGG on May 02, 2016, 10:06:39 AM

Matt Velazquez
‏@Matt_Velazquez
Kalif Young, a 6-foot-9 forward from Orangeville Prep in Ontario in class of '16, will visit Marquette on Wednesday and Thursday per source.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: fjm on May 02, 2016, 10:08:15 AM
Was waiting for warmer weather.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on May 02, 2016, 10:13:09 AM
Was waiting for warmer weather.

Highs of 48 both days, doubt it.  typical gloomy days.  At least he is showing up, good sign to get one of the kids.  I would say Gill will like Maryland, lots of playing
time there, campus and great crowds for games.  See what happens.  Rather get Young and grow the program.  If they get Gill, next year they will for sure need
a grad transfer the following year.  Rather have 4 year kids.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on May 02, 2016, 10:17:45 AM
Matt Velazquez
‏@Matt_Velazquez
Kalif Young, a 6-foot-9 forward from Orangeville Prep in Ontario in class of '16, will visit Marquette on Wednesday and Thursday per source.

Great news.  Thanks Sultan.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on May 02, 2016, 10:34:38 AM
Matt Velazquez
‏@Matt_Velazquez
Kalif Young, a 6-foot-9 forward from Orangeville Prep in Ontario in class of '16, will visit Marquette on Wednesday and Thursday per source.

Really a good sign!!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GGGG on May 02, 2016, 10:37:45 AM
I feel pretty good that he's taking a mid-week visit.  And I agree with Hoopster that I would rather have a four year guy like him versus a one year guy like Gill if one is only an option.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: fjm on May 02, 2016, 10:42:04 AM
I personally would rather have Gill and then get a 4 year next year. The strength of the guys we are looking at for PF in 2017 is a bit more superior to kalif. (This is just based on rankings.)

Having said that, I know there is no guarantee of getting one of the 2017 guys we are looking at.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: real chili 83 on May 02, 2016, 10:44:09 AM
Lets go with the 4  year guy and build.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 02, 2016, 10:47:08 AM
I'd rather get the guy Wojo would rather get.

But since I don't know who Wojo would prefer, I generally refer 4-year guys....
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on May 02, 2016, 10:48:10 AM
However it works, I'm confident Wojo has them ranked in his mind.  And I'll guess if he gets either some folks will still complain.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GGGG on May 02, 2016, 10:48:51 AM
I worry about having two graduate transfers who get significant minutes.  I'm not sure that's a recipe for either short or long term success.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 02, 2016, 10:49:25 AM
Matt Velazquez
‏@Matt_Velazquez
Kalif Young, a 6-foot-9 forward from Orangeville Prep in Ontario in class of '16, will visit Marquette on Wednesday and Thursday per source.




Hopefully he clears customs, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: HoopsterBC on May 02, 2016, 10:51:18 AM
With Johnson, Reinhardt and Luke adding another senior might be good for next year, but the year after might have some difficulty.  Adding Gill would mean 4 double
digit scorers.  I do not see it plus Rowsey and Duane Wilson, that is 6 kids who have scored in double figures.  We will see how good a coach Wojo will be just to try
and make them all happy.  And the most important Sam Hauser.  Add Howard, wow, some challenges on playing time.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 02, 2016, 11:11:18 AM
Just a guess, but maybe Young coming in on Wednesday means Gill is headed elsewhere. One thing for sure - going hard after 2 one and done grad transfers means Wojo is all in (again) for next year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: GGGG on May 02, 2016, 11:13:14 AM
Just a guess, but maybe Young coming in on Wednesday means Gill is headed elsewhere.

That thought also crossed my mind.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: muballbuster on May 02, 2016, 11:17:20 AM
Wednesday- Morning rain and clearing afternoon sunshine 55
Thursday- 56 and sunny

Ice cream truck weather?



Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: wadesworld on May 02, 2016, 11:29:57 AM
If a kid can't get playing time and is unhappy about it then buh bye.  Get the best talent in and if people don't want to be a part of it then we have a chance to bring in somebody better than whoever wants to leave.

Wojo, and every college basketball coach in the country, are all in every year.  Their job is to win basketball games today, tomorrow, and in following years.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Blackhat on May 02, 2016, 11:41:50 AM
Get these kids some t shirts.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 02, 2016, 11:54:20 AM
If a kid can't get playing time and is unhappy about it then buh bye.  Get the best talent in and if people don't want to be a part of it then we have a chance to bring in somebody better than whoever wants to leave.

Wojo, and every college basketball coach in the country, are all in every year.  Their job is to win basketball games today, tomorrow, and in following years.

Truth
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: brewcity77 on May 02, 2016, 12:03:43 PM
I worry about having two graduate transfers who get significant minutes.  I'm not sure that's a recipe for either short or long term success.

While I understand the concern, Louisville would be one example where it worked. Granted, their extracurriculars led to the self-ban, but they went 23-8 and were dead certain locks for the tournament with Damion Lee and Trey Lewis, both graduate transfers, 1/2 in scoring on the team and both in the top-5 in minutes, rebounds, assists, steals, and made threes.

Who knows how it will work long-term, but I'd say they had short term success. Shonn Miller and Sterling Gibbs had similar impacts for a tourney team at UConn. Not sure how many more examples there are of multiple grad transfers, but it can work and not just as role-players but as the best guys on the team.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: jsglow on May 02, 2016, 12:16:22 PM
Just a guess, but maybe Young coming in on Wednesday means Gill is headed elsewhere. One thing for sure - going hard after 2 one and done grad transfers means Wojo is all in (again) for next year.

Or it could mean that Gill is very interested in committing and Wojo told Young 'now or never, son'.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: JakeBarnes on May 02, 2016, 12:17:23 PM
Or it could mean that Gill is very interested in committing and Wojo told Young 'now or never, son'.

Or the obvious: Wojo is playing mind games with everyone.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on May 02, 2016, 12:22:22 PM
Or the obvious: Wojo is playing mind games with everyone.

Pushing kids under the ice cream truck left and right.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Herman Cain on May 02, 2016, 01:31:34 PM
Gill would be an excellent addition if we could get him. He is Big East ready.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on May 02, 2016, 06:49:13 PM
Wednesday- Morning rain and clearing afternoon sunshine 55
Thursday- 56 and sunny

Ice cream truck weather?

My concern exactly
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: warriorchick on May 02, 2016, 06:59:02 PM
My concern exactly

Good Chili weather, though.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on May 02, 2016, 07:12:25 PM
Good Chili weather, though.

Great point, no longer concerned about the weather. So lucky we have Real Chili on campus to mitigate unpredictable weather
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Archies Bat on May 02, 2016, 07:22:00 PM
Great point, no longer concerned about the weather. So lucky we have Real Chili on campus to mitigate unpredictable weather

Real Chili may help mitigate the weather, but it has also been known to occasionally effect air quality.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on May 02, 2016, 07:23:22 PM

  He's from Southern Canada,..Right?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on May 02, 2016, 07:47:08 PM
Real Chili may help mitigate the weather, but it has also been known to occasionally effect air quality.

Great point, I'mean concerned about the weather again
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: WarriorPride68 on May 02, 2016, 10:36:43 PM
May have missed his posts, but had Big Daddy been around lately?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Loose Cannon on May 02, 2016, 11:38:44 PM
May have missed his posts, but had Big Daddy been around lately?


Have not seen any posts, since D Wilson's Tweet.  I've been waiting.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on May 03, 2016, 07:47:54 AM
Or the obvious: Wojo is playing mind games with everyone.
Ners is certain Wojo is clearly trying to figure out the best way to get JjJ to leave....
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: lessthannick11 on May 03, 2016, 11:16:44 AM
 Jon Rothstein ‏@JonRothstein  18m18 minutes ago
Duquesne transfer LG Gill told @CBSSports he currently has no visits planned after Maryland this weekend. Visited Marquette last weekend.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: BM1090 on May 03, 2016, 11:20:31 AM
Ners is certain Wojo is clearly trying to figure out the best way to get JjJ to leave....

Sadly, this probably shouldn't be in teal.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: bilsu on May 03, 2016, 11:27:10 AM
Ners is certain Wojo is clearly trying to figure out the best way to get JjJ to leave....
I do not know this is true, but I think JJJ is the one most effected by bringing in these transfers and JJJ may feel he paid his dues.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: TAMU Eagle on May 03, 2016, 11:35:10 AM
I do not know this is true, but I think JJJ is the one most effected by bringing in these transfers and JJJ may feel he paid his dues.

No. JJJ is a slasher. Reinhardt and Gill are shooters. They will see plenty of time together. This affects Sandy's minutes more than anybody's
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Aughnanure on May 03, 2016, 12:04:14 PM
Mark Miller predicts Young to MU

http://247sports.com/Player/Kalif-Young-87707
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: brewcity77 on May 03, 2016, 12:26:34 PM
Mark Miller predicts Young to MU

http://247sports.com/Player/Kalif-Young-87707

And Theo John to Oklahoma...

http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Theo-John-at-Champlin-Park-Senior-135131/CurrentExpertPredictions
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: real chili 83 on May 03, 2016, 12:58:15 PM
And Theo John to Oklahoma...

http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Theo-John-at-Champlin-Park-Senior-135131/CurrentExpertPredictions

Dang, I am planning on watching him this weekend at the Howard Pulley tourney.  In my MU gear.  I wont be as MU pimped out as JB, but donning the colors none the less.

Anyone know what the other teams are?  The HP website does not list the participants (yet).

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Newsdreams on May 03, 2016, 02:38:09 PM
Sadly, this probably shouldn't be in teal.
Please read BD's post.....
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on May 03, 2016, 02:41:20 PM
Please read BD's post.....


Funny I read it as "Ners is actually trying to figure this out" - not a slight on the relationship
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: BM1090 on May 03, 2016, 04:35:29 PM
Funny I read it as "Ners is actually trying to figure this out" - not a slight on the relationship

This is what I meant. Wasn't implying anything about JJ and Wojo's relationship.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/15
Post by: Newsdreams on May 03, 2016, 07:58:51 PM