Bracketology 2019-2020

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ABD

TYFYS

[Bocephys]

Dayton adds no money to the conference, just an annoying, obnoxious fan base.

Someone better tell Dayton that annoying, obnoxious fan bases in the Big East is OUR thing

[JWags85]

What do they add in terms of markets?  Xavier already exists in that part of the country.  Dayton is small and inconsistent nationally.  Nothing against them personally, but the upside is small.

Exactly.  Dayton competes with Ohio St, Xavier, and Cincy in that section of Ohio.

And "strong history of success, particularly recently"...they've won a game in the NCAA's 3 times in the last 30 years.  Before the fluky E8 run with Archie Miller, they had been largely irrelevant the majority of their time in the A10.  Creighton had been way more of a player in the MVC before joining.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Off the wall question.

I read earlier this year that UConn AD and other university people were contacted by several schools inquiring about football independence.  UConn personnel would not say what universities. 

I assume no football program in a P5 conference would go independent.  Is there a university that the Big East might be interested in if they went football independent?
Notre Dame obviously although I don't they're leaving the ACC.  Beyond that?

[Fluffy Blue Monster]

Off the wall question.

I read earlier this year that UConn AD and other university people were contacted by several schools inquiring about football independence.  UConn personnel would not say what universities. 

I assume no football program in a P5 conference would go independent.  Is there a university that the Big East might be interested in if they went football independent?
Notre Dame obviously although I don't they're leaving the ACC.  Beyond that?

Temple, though I think Nova would object
Cincy, though I think Xavier would object
Memphis, but they can't stay clean.

[Uncle Rico]

Someone better tell Dayton that annoying, obnoxious fan bases in the Big East is OUR thing

That’s why they need to stay out

[Pakuni]

Off the wall question.

I read earlier this year that UConn AD and other university people were contacted by several schools inquiring about football independence.  UConn personnel would not say what universities. 

I assume no football program in a P5 conference would go independent.  Is there a university that the Big East might be interested in if they went football independent?
Notre Dame obviously although I don't they're leaving the ACC.  Beyond that?

St. Louis would put the conference in another top 25 media market, which is what it might take to get Fox on board.
Not a great basketball program, but fits with the conference otherwise (i.e. urban, private) and is far enough away from other members that they wouldn't be infringing on anyone's territory.
(And I know this doesn't answer your question about a school with a football program).

[JWags85]

St. Louis would put the conference in another top 25 media market, which is what it might take to get Fox on board.
Not a great basketball program, but fits with the conference otherwise (i.e. urban, private) and is far enough away from other members that they wouldn't be infringing on anyone's territory.
(And I know this doesn't answer your question about a school with a football program).

Honestly, again, you take away the E8 run, and Dayton and SLU aren't all that far off.  Since 2000, Dayton leads 7 to 5 in tourney appearances, 3 to 2 in Conference titles, but they both advanced past the first round 3 times and Travis Ford has them moving in the right direction and we'll see what happens when Dayton loses the NPOY.  I don't think SLU is all that different than Dayton, plus its a new market.

[Billy Hoyle]

Honestly, again, you take away the E8 run, and Dayton and SLU aren't all that far off.  Since 2000, Dayton leads 7 to 5 in tourney appearances, 3 to 2 in Conference titles, but they both advanced past the first round 3 times and Travis Ford has them moving in the right direction and we'll see what happens when Dayton loses the NPOY.  I don't think SLU is all that different than Dayton, plus its a new market.

SLU isn't going to bring in TV ratings and FS1 is already in the STL market. Plus, only DePaul draws fewer fans per game than SLU. Dayton would be #3 in the conference behind Creighton and MU respectively.

Besides, SLU had their chance to get in.

We're staying at 11.

[bilsu]

Creighton and Villanova 1 seeds.
Marquette next four out.

I found this encouraging. Does the big East only get four bids as predicted in this bracketology? This bracketology considers MU to be the 5th or 6th best team in the Big East, which is far from last place.

[JWags85]

SLU isn't going to bring in TV ratings and FS1 is already in the STL market. Plus, only DePaul draws fewer fans per game than SLU. Dayton would be #3 in the conference behind Creighton and MU respectively.

Besides, SLU had their chance to get in.

We're staying at 11.

I'm not advocating for SLU, just stating that they aren't that much less attractive than Dayton.  Also, Dayton would not outstrip Xavier, Nova, or Butler if they played in venues of that size.  SLU could sell out Chaifetz every game, like Butler or Xavier do, and still trail Dayton at 80% capacity.

[MarquetteMike1977]

I found this encouraging. Does the big East only get four bids as predicted in this bracketology? This bracketology considers MU to be the 5th or 6th best team in the Big East, which is far from last place.

Agree I find this encouraging too.
With UConn added The Big East Gets 5 In. Based on this Correct Marquette is listed as 6th place in the Big East Conference.

[WhiteTrash]

iF, Wojo can get us to 6th in the Big East and the NIT i will be impressed. Not sure it's fair to expect that.

Yes, that is the new normal for MU.