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Quote from: Pakuni on November 07, 2018, 01:09:05 PM
Sure, as long as you also choose not to call police when someone breaks into your home, call the fire department if said home catches fire, use public roads to get around or have your trash collected.
Deal?

No more public hospitals, parks, or sewer systems either.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

GB Warrior

Quote from: UWW2MU on November 06, 2018, 02:23:15 PM
Tell me again why we want more people to vote?


So that we don't elect people that subvert Democracy?

tower912

Quote from: naginiF on November 07, 2018, 02:19:19 PM
Congrats on the weed though!

We had 3 different medical marijuana proposals to vote on (they had different tax rates and benefactors of the tax collected) and one passed pretty easily.  one step at a time.
Never touched it, not planning to start ingesting it.  Curious about some of the topical cremes for muscle aches.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GGGG

Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 07, 2018, 12:48:05 PM
You can choose not to vote. I wish I could choose not to pay sales taxes.

You have that choice. You could move.

Sir Lawrence

Quote from: tower912 on November 07, 2018, 04:52:01 PM
Never touched it, not planning to start ingesting it.  Curious about some of the topical cremes for muscle aches.

99 year old father-in-law is a veteran of some nasty jungle battles in the Pacific during WW2.  Plenty of aches and arthritic pains.  Geriatric docs had him on traditional pain meds, including opioids.  No relief.  One of the grandkids brought back some cannabinol salve from a ski trip to Colorado.  Is truly working wonders.  He is giddy with relief.  Sold me.
Ludum habemus.

MU82

Quote from: Sir Lawrence on November 07, 2018, 09:51:51 PM
99 year old father-in-law is a veteran of some nasty jungle battles in the Pacific during WW2.  Plenty of aches and arthritic pains.  Geriatric docs had him on traditional pain meds, including opioids.  No relief.  One of the grandkids brought back some cannabinol salve from a ski trip to Colorado.  Is truly working wonders.  He is giddy with relief.  Sold me.

But did he vote?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

vogue65

Quote from: TSmith34 on November 07, 2018, 03:24:03 PM
No more public hospitals, parks, or sewer systems either.

Or building codes, restaurant inspections, clean water (we could do better on that one), courts, jails, legal system, Coast Guard, air traffic control, post office, National Institute of Health, medical education, defense conversion, why am I doing this?  Huricane forecasting, bridge inspectors, FDIC, free public education, or a functioning stock market can be added. 

Stop it, I forgot, the goal is anarchy, gated communities, and luxury living in Costa Rica. I wonder if they have public golf in Costa Rica?

reinko

Quote from: Sir Lawrence on November 07, 2018, 09:51:51 PM
99 year old father-in-law is a veteran of some nasty jungle battles in the Pacific during WW2.  Plenty of aches and arthritic pains.  Geriatric docs had him on traditional pain meds, including opioids.  No relief.  One of the grandkids brought back some cannabinol salve from a ski trip to Colorado.  Is truly working wonders.  He is giddy with relief.  Sold me.

PM'ed.

GB Warrior

Quote from: vogue65 on November 08, 2018, 04:38:38 AM
Or building codes, restaurant inspections, clean water (we could do better on that one), courts, jails, legal system, Coast Guard, air traffic control, post office, National Institute of Health, medical education, defense conversion, why am I doing this?  Huricane forecasting, bridge inspectors, FDIC, free public education, or a functioning stock market can be added. 

Stop it, I forgot, the goal is anarchy, gated communities, and luxury living in Costa Rica. I wonder if they have public golf in Costa Rica?

They're all Trump courses.

WarriorDad

#84
Quote from: Pakuni on November 07, 2018, 01:09:05 PM
Sure, as long as you also choose not to call police when someone breaks into your home, call the fire department if said home catches fire, use public roads to get around or have your trash collected.
Deal?

Montana, Oregon, Alaska, Delaware, New Hampshire do not have state sales taxes.  MUwarrior69, maybe you should move there, and something tells me they still have public roads, fire departments, hospitals, sewer systems, trash collection and other stuff.  They collect the money differently there. 


https://www.thebalance.com/states-without-a-sales-tax-3193305


All in the delicate balance of things.

"A democracy cannot exist as permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury"
Alexander Fraser Tytler
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

Jockey

Oops. Chico forgot his new persona.

Same old, same old.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Jockey on November 08, 2018, 10:04:35 AM
Oops. Chico forgot his new persona.

Same old, same old.

Brandi - as a Libertarian/White Sox fan I LOVE that "new Chico" is a Democrat/Cub fan. Who knew he could make it even easier for me?

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 08, 2018, 10:39:03 AM
Brandi - as a Libertarian/White Sox fan I LOVE that "new Chico" is a Democrat/Cub fan. Who knew he could make it even easier for me?

He's black, too!

Oh wait ... that was the third or fourth "new chicos," not this one.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Sir Lawrence on November 07, 2018, 09:51:51 PM
One of the grandkids brought back some cannabinol salve from a ski trip to Colorado.

Just feel I should throw in the disclaimer that it's generally illegal to leave the state with such items. Even if you're going to another state where it's legal. Flying is a no no, driving you can get away with it.

vogue65

Quote from: GB Warrior on November 08, 2018, 08:33:37 AM
They're all Trump courses.

Very funny and probably true at $500 a round.

Benny B

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 08, 2018, 11:40:40 AM
Just feel I should throw in the disclaimer that it's generally illegal to leave the state with such items. Even if you're going to another state where it's legal. Flying is a no no, driving you can get away with it.

Not generally.... is illegal to export THC from the state where purchased/grown/procured.  Not sure if this is the case with all ten states, but my understanding is that if you buy in Nevada and cross with it into California (or vice versa) - both states, of course, having legalized - you can not only be prosecuted in federal court (regardless) as well as in both states if you don't have a transport license.  Granted, that's a highly unlikely scenario, but the Feds have been hands off the past few years in CO and WA in no small part because the states were doing a good job containing it.  Now that more states are legalizing, I have a feeling that people might get a bit lazy with observing state borders/laws.

IOW, the easiest way to screw things up for everyone is to start taking THC across state lines.

But the best way to screw things up for yourself is to take any amount of THC through TSA.  Transporting across state lines (i.e. trafficking) is a much worse offense than simple possession in Wisconsin (or any other non-legal state), and the odds of you getting sniffed by a dog at the airport vs. pulled over in your car couldn't be further apart.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

warriorchick

Quote from: Benny B on November 08, 2018, 12:26:52 PM
Not generally.... is illegal to export THC from the state where purchased/grown/procured.  Not sure if this is the case with all ten states, but my understanding is that if you buy in Nevada and cross with it into California (or vice versa) - both states, of course, having legalized - you can not only be prosecuted in federal court (regardless) as well as in both states if you don't have a transport license.  Granted, that's a highly unlikely scenario, but the Feds have been hands off the past few years in CO and WA in no small part because the states were doing a good job containing it.  Now that more states are legalizing, I have a feeling that people might get a bit lazy with observing state borders/laws.

IOW, the easiest way to screw things up for everyone is to start taking THC across state lines.

But the best way to screw things up for yourself is to take any amount of THC through TSA.  Transporting across state lines (i.e. trafficking) is a much worse offense than simple possession in Wisconsin (or any other non-legal state), and the odds of you getting sniffed by a dog at the airport vs. pulled over in your car couldn't be further apart.

If any of you want expert advice - my BIL works for the largest law firm in the U.S. that specializes in marijuana law.
Have some patience, FFS.

Benny B

Quote from: warriorchick on November 08, 2018, 12:30:32 PM
If any of you want expert advice - my BIL works for the largest law firm in the U.S. that specializes in marijuana law.

Dewey, Cheetos & Howe?
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

vogue65

"A democracy cannot exist as permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury"
Alexander Fraser Tytler
[/quote]

What is the alternative?

Monarchy, dictatorship, totalitarianism, fascism, anarchy?
I live part time in northern Italy among many fascists, they don't like democracy either. 
Some like the idea of a Nobel class with lots of serfs.  It is a great way of getting magnificent cathedrals.

GGGG

Quote from: vogue65 on November 08, 2018, 01:07:12 PM
What is the alternative?

Plato's vision of a philosopher-king.  (Which will never happen.)

warriorchick

Have some patience, FFS.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Benny B on November 08, 2018, 12:26:52 PM
Not generally.... is illegal to export THC from the state where purchased/grown/procured. 

I worded it poorly, but my understanding is that there are some CBD salves that use industrial hemp as the source (no thc), and should be legal in all states.

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on November 08, 2018, 11:32:19 AM
He's black, too!

Oh wait ... that was the third or fourth "new chicos," not this one.

I thought he just had lots and lots of black "friends".

Jockey

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 08, 2018, 10:39:03 AM
Brandi - as a Libertarian/White Sox fan I LOVE that "new Chico" is a Democrat/Cub fan. Who knew he could make it even easier for me?

Please take him back. We (Dems) already have too many like him.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Herman Cain on November 06, 2018, 10:18:52 PM
I think this country should bring back the poll tax . Would get a much better outcome. Too many uninformed people who are easily swayed that vote.

I agree - anyone who voted for Herman Cain, the 62 million who voted for Donald Trump are exactly who you're talking about.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

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