Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[forgetful]

I am confident he will honor the bargain and so will we.

Me too.

[Herman Cain]

They took him because it enhanced MU's chance to get Henry.  Period.  No one involved in the basketball program gave a sh*t about his high jumping.

Obviously that was an entre to the discussion, at the end of the day Wally had to stand on his own merits. Part of his merits were that he was an All American High Jumper, therefore he had freak athletic ability that hopefully could be polished into something good. Combine that with being recruited to a Big Ten school by a very good coach he had a lot going on that made him worth taking a flyer on given the scholarship and team size situation we had at the time. Also remember at the time Wojo was pushing the whole history and tradition of Marquette as part of his recruiting pitch and given that the old man played a while at Marquette it fit in as well. Net Net Wally total package was a good deal on its own.

I am not in the camp that he was a flop for us ( no pun intended). He delivered what the coaches asked him to deliver. It is clear he would have no minutes this year and we obviously needed a 4 to replace Henry.

No reason to keep trashing the kid. He did a damn good job for Marquette and I am happy he came here.

[GGGG]

Obviously that was an entre to the discussion, at the end of the day Wally had to stand on his own merits. Part of his merits were that he was an All American High Jumper, therefore he had freak athletic ability that hopefully could be polished into something good. Combine that with being recruited to a Big Ten school by a very good coach he had a lot going on that made him worth taking a flyer on given the scholarship and team size situation we had at the time. Also remember at the time Wojo was pushing the whole history and tradition of Marquette as part of his recruiting pitch and given that the old man played a while at Marquette it fit in as well. Net Net Wally total package was a good deal on its own.

All of this made him a good bet.

But NONE if it happens if he wasn't Henry's older brother.

[Herman Cain]

All of this made him a good bet.

But NONE if it happens if he wasn't Henry's older brother.

I think it is easy to say that.

However, if his name was Wally Cleaver and he came into Wojo and Company with this exact fact pattern and we had our fact pattern of only 10 scholarship guys a need for practice player a need for an energy guy etc, I still believe Wojo would have taken him.

Wally was recruited by a number good schools and had offers from Nebraska, Utah, and West Virginia in addition to Minnesota. Guys who can jump 7-5 inches do not grow on trees. There is value to having a guy like that around even if it is only for practice purposes.

[Jay Bee]

Read the null and void provisions at nationalletter.org  I believe Brendan could void the NLI after serving his 2 year mission.  Right now, MU just has his word that he is coming.  In any event, nowadays I don't think a school would object if the kid changed his mind after 2 years.  That's just reality.

No, you read it again. Fully.

[Nukem2]

No, you read it again. Fully.

you are not getting it.  Rules be damned.  If he changes his mind, MU will genuflect and he would go elsewhere.  Hope not, but that is reality.

[Jay Bee]

you are not getting it.  Rules be damned.  If he changes his mind, MU will genuflect and he would go elsewhere.  Hope not, but that is reality.

No, you're not getting it. You're claiming the rules allow him to cancel after one year. They do not.

[Nukem2]

No, you're not getting it. You're claiming the rules allow him to cancel after one year. They do not.

i think the Deseret News in SLC might disagree with you.

[Jay Bee]

i think the Deseret News in SLC might disagree with you.

So what? They have the right to be incorrect, just as you do.

If you think the media has their crap together, that's your fault.

[Nukem2]

So what? They have the right to be incorrect, just as you do.

If you think the media has their crap together, that's your fault.

iI believe the rules are different if you do not enroll.  Not trying to be antagonistic here.  In the end, the NLI is just a promise no matter the rules.  Peace my frient.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Read the null and void provisions at nationalletter.org  I believe Brendan could void the NLI after serving his 2 year mission.  Right now, MU just has his word that he is coming.  In any event, nowadays I don't think a school would object if the kid changed his mind after 2 years.  That's just reality.

This is my understanding of the rule also.  Right now we really just have his word. 

AHEM!

How is the NLI declared null and void?

 Denied admission.
 Does not meet NCAA, institutional or conference eligibility requirements.
 One-Year Absence.
- Signee does not enroll (two-year or four-year institution) for at least one academic year and the scholarship (in its same amount) is no longer available. Also applies to a signee who serves in the U.S. Armed Forces or Church Mission for one year. NLI remains binding if the scholarship (in its same amount) is available.
 Discontinued Sport.
- Sport is no longer offered, includes student-athletes who are already enrolled.
 Recruiting Rules Violation.
- NLI may be declared null and void if the violation is substantiated and prompts the need for reinstatement by the NCAA staff. It is the prospective student-athlete's choice to null and void the  under these circumstances.

Its like y'all don't read the thread

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I assume you are talking about my feelings towards Bailey, just putting down the facts.   Yes, it makes Wojo's class better on paper, but on paper, big deal means
nothing.  What it does mean is that if he comes with Joey Hauser, Herro and Bailey that he will have a great class for 2018.   Really sold on Hauser, not as much on
Herro but his body has 2 years to mature.  With Bailey in the fold,  Sam being at MU, Joey is a must and simple to recruit.  He will visit MU 15-20 times a year and Herro
is right here.   Maybe a 4th recruit can be had as well that is a Top 50 player.  That would be a great recruiting class plus a new arena, it could happen!

As Brew said, unless you can show me the data that 50% of people who commit before going on LDS missions end up decommitting, you are just spouting nonsense. Hell, if you look at the numbers, they are more likely to make it to campus than straight outta HS recruits. I worked in athletics at the University of Utah and dealt with LDS missions regularly. In the time I was there, there wasn't a single decommitment in any of the sports I worked with.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

i think the Deseret News in SLC might disagree with you.

Dude, the website your provided, nationalletter.org, doesn't agree with you. Read it again.

[Nukem2]

Dude, the website your provided, nationalletter.org, doesn't agree with you. Read it again.

once again, this is all very academic.  Reality is otherwise dude.

[Jay Bee]

iI believe the rules are different if you do not enroll.  Not trying to be antagonistic here. 

I know you do. And I know you're flat out wrong.

[Nukem2]

I know you do. And I know you're flat out wrong.

have a good night. 

[Nukem2]

AHEM!

Its like y'all don't read the thread

but, but.  This site is written from the signee's perspective.  The signee can void the NLI. That's what I was responding to originally.  The signee is in control. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

once again, this is all very academic.  Reality is otherwise dude.

The reality is that you were wrong about the rule. And as Jay Bee and I both said, there are a lot of ways to get out of an NLI. But from my personal experience, kids who go on LDS missions actually end up staying committed to their NLI at a higher rate than students who commit right out of high school.

Its really not that bad of an experience to admit you made an easy mistake. You just go "huh, I thought it was something different." Nothing else required.

[Jay Bee]

The signee can void the NLI. That's what I was responding to originally.  The signee is in control.

No, they can't.

[bilsu]

umm, it is true.  Go to nationalletter.org for details.

It sounds like you think I should verify what other people post. As you can see from the posts from people reading the rules you guys cannot agree what it means. I will stick with my original statement "if it is true" and not waste my time trying to verify what someone else posts. You can do it if you want to, but do not criticize me for giving a disclaimer.

[Nukem2]

It sounds like you think I should verify what other people post. As you can see from the posts from people reading the rules you guys cannot agree what it means. I will stick with my original statement "if it is true" and not waste my time trying to verify what someone else posts. You can do it if you want to, but do not criticize me for giving a disclaimer.

Never criticized you in any fashion.  Have a great day.

[JakeBarnes]

So... maybe it's time to get this thing back on track. Although I feel like my adding a "prediction" part to a recruit is what started some of this. Regardless, let's get this (scholar)ship back on course.

Ike Eke was on campus. Did anyone see him in a boot?  According to him he met #nicepeople and had a good time!

Current Golden Eagle Markus Howard is killing it for the Team USA U17 squad and impressing the heck out of various pundits.

Joey Hauser was around last week hanging with Jabari. He and Herro are skyrocketing in the 2018 rankings.

Anyone have a pulse on any other upcoming visits? Seems like Wojo and staff have a lot on their plates with targeted recruits for 17 and 18.

[wadesworld]

Was Joey's visit to MSU this past weekend?

[JakeBarnes]

Was Joey's visit to MSU this past weekend?

On 24/7 it looks like he visits on the 18th. Looks like he was at the Nike Elite 100 this past weekend.

[Jay Bee]

On 24/7 it looks like he visits on the 18th. Looks like he was at the Nike Elite 100 this past weekend.

Yes, was at Nike Elite 100 this wknd

He's not 100% on Mich St this wknd, but likely