Recruiting as of 3/15/24

[LloydsLegs]

Okay...so let's actually break it down.

2009 (6): 3 Top-100 players (Cadougan, Maymon, Williams), 2 NJCAA All-Americans (Buycks, DJO), 1 sub-100 recruit (Mbao)
2010 (5): 2 Top-100 players (Blue, Jones), 1 NJCAA All-American (Crowder), 2 sub-100 recruits (Smith, Gardner)
2011 (3): 1 Top-100 players (Anderson), 2 sub-100 recruits (Mayo, Derrick)
2012 (3): 1 Top-100 player (Taylor), 1 NJCAA All-American (TJ Taylor), 1 sub-100 players (Ferguson)
2013 (5): 3 Top-100 players (Johnson, Burton, Duane), 1 NJCAA All-American (McKay), 1 sub-100 player (Dawson)
2014 (1): 1 Top-100 player (Cohen)
2015 (5): 3 Top-100 players (Ellenson, Cheatham, Heldt), 2 sub-100 players (Carter, Anim)
2016 (3): 3 Top-100 players (Bailey, Howard, Hauser)
2017 (4): 4 sub-100 players (Cain, Elliott, John, Eke)
2018 (1): 1 Top-100 player (Hauser)

So that's 36 recruits. Of those 36, by my count, 18 were top-100 players. Another 5 were JUCO All-Americans. I'm going to guess those are recruits we aren't complaining about, especially as 4/5 were really solid D1 players. So your gripe is with the 13 sub-100 players. So let's look at those:

Hits (6): Gardner, Derrick, Anim, Cain, Elliott, John

Gardner, Anim, & John way overdid expectations. Cain & Elliott were solid freshmen & at least look like solid role-players. I know some will argue Derrick, but he was a reliable role-player for 4 years. That's plenty for a 3-star recruit. It isn't his fault that he was forced into a larger role.

Push (3): Mayo, Carter, Eke

Mayo & Carter both had productive moments, but the potential they flashed largely went unrealized & neither finished their careers here. Eke the jury is still out on.

Misses (4): Mbao, Smith, Ferguson, Dawson

Only one lasted more than one season, and none made it to Christmas of their sophomore year. All were obviously overmatched at this level.

So basically, your entire gripe seems to be 4/36 recruits (11.1%) over the past 10 years that didn't work out. I mean, all four were disappointing, but they accounted for 5 total years of scholarships, so it's not like there was much invested in them.

Further, in that time we also added RSCI top-100s Jamil Wilson, Luke Fischer, Katin Reinhardt, Ed Morrow and sub-100s Trent Lockett, Matt Carlino, Koby McEwen, & Joseph Chartouny. I would argue that so far, 6 of those (all the top-100 players as well as Lockett & Carlino) were hits, Chartouny was a miss, and McEwen is currently a push. And all of those players used the rest of their eligibility at Marquette after committing.

So honestly, on the basis of 44 players, there are 5 that seem to have completely failed to meet your standards. Maybe the problem is less the players and more your standards. Also, it's worth noting that of the Wojo sub-100 recruits, Eke and Carter are the only two that aren't hits. Wojo has largely been hitting on his reaches & transfers. Of the 19 players he brought in, 10 were top-100 (including Morrow & Reinhardt) and of the other 9, most were quality adds (Anim, Cain, Elliott, John, Carlino, McEwen) with only Chartouny & Carter truly disappointing (again, jury out on Ike).

(And sorry, I've been busy at work and had most of this written earlier, but haven't had a chance to post until now, and I'm not letting the work go to waste.)

Thank you for this

[Shooter Flatch]

Also, Rowsey was a sub-100 transfer. He was definitely a hit.

[Herman Cain]

CJ Wilcher heading to X. This could help MU as we are competing with Xavier on a number of similar type of players. Travis Steele continues to do well on recruiting front .

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2019/06/07/xavier-gets-commitment-four-star-recruit-cj-wilcher/1382064001/

https://www.zagsblog.com/2019/06/07/c-j-wilcher-to-xavier/

[Herman Cain]

Jordan Davis recently posted Junior Year highlights. Johnnies brother. They want to come as a package.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/video/jordan-davis-junior-highlights-6-6-19/

[THRILLHO]

Jordan Davis recently posted Junior Year highlights. Johnnies brother. They want to come as a package.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/video/jordan-davis-junior-highlights-6-6-19/

What could possibly go wrong???

[The Thing]

What could possibly go wrong???

Now that’s a good one!

[Jay Bee]

Jordan Davis recently posted Junior Year highlights. Johnnies brother. They want to come as a package.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/video/jordan-davis-junior-highlights-6-6-19/

Big difference b/w the two tbh.

[Herman Cain]

Big difference b/w the two tbh. uw-madison extension must really want Johnny

Jordan has some interest from Badger football too.  Will be interesting to see how this plays out. 

https://twitter.com/Evan_Flood/status/1113539243199139840

[Stretchdeltsig]

Screw the rodents. This thread is dead.

[Herman Cain]

Screw the rodents. This thread is dead.

Not much will happen until the next couple of rounds of evaluation and the July  session is completed . There will be a few random commitments  between now and then that may indirectly impact MU. Some actionable offers should come out of the NBPA Top 100 at the end of this week which may get things moving.  Then we go through the whole fall official visit routine.

 Best thing that happened so far is we got Justin Lewis in to visit . So hopefully we can keep building on that momentum with him.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Not much will happen until the next couple of rounds of evaluation and the July  session is completed . There will be a few random commitments  between now and then that may indirectly impact MU. Some actionable offers should come out of the NBPA Top 100 at the end of this week which may get things moving.  Then we go through the whole fall official visit routine.

 Best thing that happened so far is we got Justin Lewis in to visit . So hopefully we can keep building on that momentum with him.

Thank you for that

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Not sure we would get involved but Donnie Tillman is transferring from Utah. He was the Sixth Man of the Year in the PAC 12 (which is a little ridiculous to me since he was third on the team in minutes played and started 15/31 games) and averaged 10.5 points and 5.3 rebounds a game for the Utes. Was a bit of a do it all player for the Utes and he worked out for a few NBA teams after declaring for the NBA draft. I mention him because we did offer him a scholarship out of high school and theoretically he and Jayce may be friends. Plus Stan seems to love him some west coast transfers.

Why I don't know that we get involved is because supposedly the transfer is to be closer to his mom who is living with epilepsy. His mom lives in the Detroit area. While Milwaukee is significantly closer than Salt Lake City, I would imagine that he'd focus on some closer schools as destinations. He might even get a waiver to be immediately eligible.

[4everwarriors]

Hoo wuz da last playa wee wer involved with, butt lost and den hee transfered back ta MU?
Walter Downing, hey?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Hoo wuz da last playa wee wer involved with, butt lost and den hee transfered back ta MU?
Walter Downing, hey?

Jamil Wilson

Did MU recruit Robert Jackson out of high school?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Hoo wuz da last playa wee wer involved with, butt lost and den hee transfered back ta MU?
Walter Downing, hey?

Jayce Johnson...a month ago

[Pakuni]

Jamil Wilson

And before that Marshall Williams.

[MuMark]

How quickly we forget Luke Fischer.........

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

How quickly we forget Luke Fischer.........

Did Buzz give him an offer?

[MuMark]

Yes.....we offered him early.....had a good chance before he fell in love with IU on his visit.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Yes.....we offered him early.....had a good chance before he fell in love with IU on his visit.

OK thanks. 

[Herman Cain]

Not sure we would get involved but Donnie Tillman is transferring from Utah. He was the Sixth Man of the Year in the PAC 12 (which is a little ridiculous to me since he was third on the team in minutes played and started 15/31 games) and averaged 10.5 points and 5.3 rebounds a game for the Utes. Was a bit of a do it all player for the Utes and he worked out for a few NBA teams after declaring for the NBA draft. I mention him because we did offer him a scholarship out of high school and theoretically he and Jayce may be friends. Plus Stan seems to love him some west coast transfers.

Why I don't know that we get involved is because supposedly the transfer is to be closer to his mom who is living with epilepsy. His mom lives in the Detroit area. While Milwaukee is significantly closer than Salt Lake City, I would imagine that he'd focus on some closer schools as destinations. He might even get a waiver to be immediately eligible.

I would endorse any activities in this regard.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Not sure we would get involved but Donnie Tillman is transferring from Utah. He was the Sixth Man of the Year in the PAC 12 (which is a little ridiculous to me since he was third on the team in minutes played and started 15/31 games) and averaged 10.5 points and 5.3 rebounds a game for the Utes. Was a bit of a do it all player for the Utes and he worked out for a few NBA teams after declaring for the NBA draft. I mention him because we did offer him a scholarship out of high school and theoretically he and Jayce may be friends. Plus Stan seems to love him some west coast transfers.

Why I don't know that we get involved is because supposedly the transfer is to be closer to his mom who is living with epilepsy. His mom lives in the Detroit area. While Milwaukee is significantly closer than Salt Lake City, I would imagine that he'd focus on some closer schools as destinations. He might even get a waiver to be immediately eligible.

Are you sure he's transferring?  Linked article says he's taking a leave of absence for the upcoming season.  It's a couple of days old so there may be more current info.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26925545/utah-forward-tillman-sit-next-season

[Pakuni]

Are you sure he's transferring?  Linked article says he's taking a leave of absence for the upcoming season.  It's a couple of days old so there may be more current info.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26925545/utah-forward-tillman-sit-next-season

He's entered the transfer portal.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Are you sure he's transferring?  Linked article says he's taking a leave of absence for the upcoming season.  It's a couple of days old so there may be more current info.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26925545/utah-forward-tillman-sit-next-season

He's entered the transfer portal.

It was originally reported as a leave of absence but Pakuni is right, he's entered the transfer portal. Maybe that means he's open to returning to Utah after a year off, but he's made himself available for other schools to contact him.

[ATL MU Warrior]

It was originally reported as a leave of absence but Pakuni is right, he's entered the transfer portal. Maybe that means he's open to returning to Utah after a year off, but he's made himself available for other schools to contact him.

Ok. Thanks for reply. Looks like an interesting player.