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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: MU82 on February 17, 2021, 11:47:52 AM
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T&P
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Detestable and incendiary as he was, I still think the whole empire he created was a pretty incredible considering in his mid 30s he was kicking around mid markets with no real success. Dude changed the face of political talk radio
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will all of his wives be pallbearers?
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Sad day. Great voice and show. Ratings were off the charts. He will be missed by many.
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The world is a brighter place today.
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Just think he's proof that even well educated individuals will listen to any dropout who yells loud enough
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Amazing how large his platform got considering how overtly racist he was.
Well, maybe not that amazing actually.
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What won't get enough attention was just how talented the guy was at radio. I know some people in the field and whenever Limbaugh's name would pop up, they would marvel at how effortlessly he filled those hours daily.
This is also death blow to conservatives. Liberals have ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, Wash Post, NY Times, LA Times, all of sports media, and all of entertainment media promoting their cause. The Right had Limbaugh and Fox News nighttime opinion hosts, that's it.
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This is also death blow to conservatives. Liberals have ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, Wash Post, NY Times, LA Times, all of sports media, and all of entertainment media promoting their cause. The Right had Limbaugh and Fox News nighttime opinion hosts, that's it.
Utter nonsense.
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Thoughts and prayers.
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The con he pulled on his audience for the last 30+ years was one of the most amazing things in entertainment history. He was a master troll and I doubt many people had less respect for his audience than him. He was terrible for political discourse but good at what he did. I won’t miss him but I’ll get to deal with the fallout of his conman career for decades
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Detestable and incendiary as he was, I still think the whole empire he created was a pretty incredible considering in his mid 30s he was kicking around mid markets with no real success. Dude changed the face of political talk radio
Yep. He was a brilliant businessman and self-marketer who gave millions of people what they didn't even know they wanted.
Hell, he even briefly convinced ESPN to pay him big bucks, with the promise that he wouldn't say the kind of things he had been saying non-stop for years.
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He took full advantage of the end of the Fairness Doctrine. I listened to him in the 90s. I used him to hone arguments in my head. I figured if I completely disagreed with him, I must be on solid ground. If we agreed, I knew I needed to reconsider.
Eventually, he said stuff so irredeemable that I couldn't in good conscience keep listening. And for the last 20 plus years, if a business had him on, I walked out. Maybe I would do my business there at a different time, maybe go somewhere else.
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This is also death blow to conservatives. Liberals have ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, Wash Post, NY Times, LA Times, all of sports media, and all of entertainment media promoting their cause. The Right had Limbaugh and Fox News nighttime opinion hosts, that's it.
Uhhh ... You forgot the Wall Street Journal, NY Post, Chicago Tribune (speaking of thoughts and prayers), Sinclair Broadcasting, Newsmax, OANN, Brietbart, Daily Wire, Daily Caller, The Hill, and the vast, vast majority of talk radio.
But other than that, nothing.
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What won't get enough attention was just how talented the guy was at radio. I know some people in the field and whenever Limbaugh's name would pop up, they would marvel at how effortlessly he filled those hours daily.
This is also death blow to conservatives. Liberals have ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, Wash Post, NY Times, LA Times, all of sports media, and all of entertainment media promoting their cause. The Right had Limbaugh and Fox News nighttime opinion hosts, that's it.
Difference is there's slightly center left networks you're lumping in as left with the far left. There's no center right networks. I'd love to watch and hear a rational differing opinion if there was.
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RIP
You can guess what the P stands for.
Deplorable human being, contributed heavily to the current state of politics.
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I don't celebrate his death, I mourn his life.
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There is an awful of hate out there. There are some liberal journalists on CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc. that I do not care for, and quite possibly dislike, but if one of them passed I would never say some of the things being said about Rush on here and elsewhere. Folks, I simply do not get the hate. At our house we agree we can hate cancer and Hitler, nothing else or no one beyond that.
As for Rush, he was great entertainer, businessman and a great American success story. He will be missed by this guy.
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There is an awful of hate out there.
There's a little less today than there was yesterday, though.
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There is an awful of hate out there. There are some liberal journalists on CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc. that I do not care for, and quite possibly dislike, but if one of them passed I would never say some of the things being said about Rush on here and elsewhere. Folks, I simply do not get the hate. At our house we agree we can hate cancer and Hitler, nothing else or no one beyond that.
As for Rush, he was great entertainer, businessman and a great American success story. He will be missed by this guy.
Well said, I agree completely.
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There is an awful of hate out there. There are some liberal journalists on CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc. that I do not care for, and quite possibly dislike, but if one of them passed I would never say some of the things being said about Rush on here and elsewhere. Folks, I simply do not get the hate. At our house we agree we can hate cancer and Hitler, nothing else or no one beyond that.
As for Rush, he was great entertainer, businessman and a great American success story. He will be missed by this guy.
Many on the right be dancing on the grave of Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, Don Lemon, etc (not that they are comparable but they're still hated). if they died too because they are depraved individuals who take joy in the death of others they don't even know.
I'm glad Limbaugh is gone. I agree with you about him being a great businessman and entertainer, Goose, but in doing so he was toxic to the political discourse in America. I say this as a former listener. A high school teacher turned me on to him and I listened for many years as a young Republican: jokes, name-calling, skits, demagoguery, etc. It wasn't meant to provoke serious thought, it was meant to entertain and tell people what they wanted to hear in a sophomoric way while advancing an agenda. He found a way to influence his audience who felt they had someone standing up to them. He bashed "limousine liberals" while living in a Manhattan penthouse out of the set of the Great Gatsby and then a 24,000 square foot manor in Florida. He based drug users while illegally using drugs himself. But, they didn't care, he was funny and spoke to them and created a following of individuals incapable of critical and logical thought but instead believing the other side was evil.
I do find it to be the ultimate in schadenfreude that a man who mocked the anti-smoking movement and the science behind it for so many years died of lung cancer. I hope those cigars were worth it, "El Rushbo."
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There is an awful of hate out there. There are some liberal journalists on CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc. that I do not care for, and quite possibly dislike, but if one of them passed I would never say some of the things being said about Rush on here and elsewhere. Folks, I simply do not get the hate. At our house we agree we can hate cancer and Hitler, nothing else or no one beyond that.
As for Rush, he was great entertainer, businessman and a great American success story. He will be missed by this guy.
Here's some of his top quotes, if you can find a left wing journalist saying anything as ignorant & vile I'll happily dance on that persons grave as well.
“Let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do — let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work.”
“Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”
“Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”
“The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”
“They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”
Limbaugh has called Obama a ‘halfrican American’ has said that Obama was not Black but Arab because Kenya is an Arab region, even though Arabs are less than one percent of Kenya. Since mainstream America has become more accepting of African-Americans, Limbaugh has decided to play against its new racial fears, Arabs and Muslims. Despite the fact Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law school, Limbaugh has called him an ‘affirmative action candidate.’ Limbaugh even has repeatedly played a song on his radio show ‘Barack the Magic Negro’ using an antiquated Jim Crow era term for Black a man who many Americans are supporting for president. Way to go Rush.
"We need segregated buses… This is Obama’s America.”
"It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex. She’s having so much sex she can’t afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex."
In particular I hope that if you have any daughters/siblings/wife that have used birth control you haven't read them that last statement. But hey support who you support, I just think it's gross to cover your ears for so much of this
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Thoughts.
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There is an awful of hate out there. There are some liberal journalists on CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc. that I do not care for, and quite possibly dislike, but if one of them passed I would never say some of the things being said about Rush on here and elsewhere. Folks, I simply do not get the hate. At our house we agree we can hate cancer and Hitler, nothing else or no one beyond that.
As for Rush, he was great entertainer, businessman and a great American success story. He will be missed by this guy.
He was also a bigot, Misogynist, Homophobe, and cranky old man.
While that didn't bother you, millions of us yearn for equality for all.
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Rush hits continued. I'm going to need a shower.
"if any race of people should not have guilt about slavery, it's Caucasians."
Re Michael J Fox "Either he didn't take his medication, or he's acting."
He referred to Chelsea Clinton, a teenager at the time, as the "White House dog" well she's female so here he was blatantly calling her a b*tch
"If the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation, then here come the rape police."
Seriously how some of you can have daughters or wives or claim to not support racism and yet still mourn this guy is actually mind boggling to me. He supports the grey area of rape, he calls teen girls a b*tch, he calls anyone who takes birth control a slut and a prostitute. This isn't a PC thing it's literally cura personalis and those of you who support him clearly have an ugly character.
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There is an awful of hate out there. There are some liberal journalists on CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc. that I do not care for, and quite possibly dislike, but if one of them passed I would never say some of the things being said about Rush on here and elsewhere. Folks, I simply do not get the hate. At our house we agree we can hate cancer and Hitler, nothing else or no one beyond that.
As for Rush, he was great entertainer, businessman and a great American success story. He will be missed by this guy.
He had an AIDS update segment where he would read off the names of people who had died and play bells and horns. If you do not get the hate, you are part of the problem.
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Here's some of his top quotes, if you can find a left wing journalist saying anything as ignorant & vile I'll happily dance on that persons grave as well.
FWIW, he wasn’t a journalist. He was a radio personality. More Al Franken than Jake Tapper
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FWIW, he wasn’t a journalist. He was a radio personality. More Al Franken than Jake Tapper
Wonderful, a radio personality that one poster on here already equates to legit news sources so that's about all you need to know about his listeners.
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FWIW, he wasn’t a journalist. He was a radio personality. More Al Franken than Jake Tapper
Unfortunately, a lot of people took him way too seriously. Part of why we are where we are.
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Tramadol & Percocet
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Rush hits continued. I'm going to need a shower.
He referred to Chelsea Clinton, a teenager at the time, as the "White House dog" well she's female so here he was blatantly calling her a b*tch
he was mocking her looks, not calling her a "b---h." Which, for a 12-year girl, is much, much worse.
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he was mocking her looks, not calling her a "b---h." Which, for a 12-year girl, is much, much worse.
What is a female dog...? It's a two for one insult
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What won't get enough attention was just how talented the guy was at radio. I know some people in the field and whenever Limbaugh's name would pop up, they would marvel at how effortlessly he filled those hours daily.
This is also death blow to conservatives. Liberals have ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, Wash Post, NY Times, LA Times, all of sports media, and all of entertainment media promoting their cause. The Right had Limbaugh and Fox News nighttime opinion hosts, that's it.
You should take a drive through the heartland sometime listening only to AM radio. You have your choice of Rush imitators. But he was the indisputable leader of this group so it will be interesting to see who takes that mantle.
I echo Topper. Thoughts. Hmm, that may be too much. Thought. That's better.
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Uhhh ... You forgot the Wall Street Journal, NY Post, Chicago Tribune (speaking of thoughts and prayers), Sinclair Broadcasting, Newsmax, OANN, Brietbart, Daily Wire, Daily Caller, The Hill, and the vast, vast majority of talk radio.
But other than that, nothing.
Do you read the Wall St Journal? That's far from a conservative news division. They even helped spike the Hunter Biden story, which the NY Post was proven right on. OANN isn't even on many people's radar, same with Newsmax. Breitbart, Daily Wire and Caller are websites.
Take all those outlets you mentioned and compare the reach vs ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, Wash Post, LA Times, NY Times, sports media, entertainment media and add in big tech and you cannot say conservatives have the advantage, lol.
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Do you read the Wall St Journal? That's far from a conservative news division. They even helped spike the Hunter Biden story, which the NY Post was proven right on. OANN isn't even on many people's radar, same with Newsmax. Breitbart, Daily Wire and Caller are websites.
Take all those outlets you mentioned and compare the reach vs ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, Wash Post, LA Times, NY Times, sports media, entertainment media and add in big tech and you cannot say conservatives have the advantage, lol.
Because you hear center right and say it's not conservative enough but hear center left and scream it's part of the liberal media. You're doing it to yourselves
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There is an awful of hate out there. There are some liberal journalists on CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc. that I do not care for, and quite possibly dislike, but if one of them passed I would never say some of the things being said about Rush on here and elsewhere. Folks, I simply do not get the hate. At our house we agree we can hate cancer and Hitler, nothing else or no one beyond that.
As for Rush, he was great entertainer, businessman and a great American success story. He will be missed by this guy.
This is who liberals are. Compare the reaction on Twitter to when Rush (or any conservative...say, Scalia) dies vs someone like RBG. The unhinged, hateful vitriol is far worse from the Left. They take glee in the death of conservatives. Just look at the posters here.
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Rush was brilliant.
My hope is that Trump takes over his show so the rest of you morons can choke on your own vomit.
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This is who liberals are. Compare the reaction on Twitter to when Rush (or any conservative...say, Scalia) dies vs someone like RBG. The unhinged, hateful vitriol is far worse from the Left. They take glee in the death of conservatives. Just look at the posters here.
Did you just compare Rush to RBG? Lmfao you're insane. Try RBG to George Bush Sr and you'll see both were class. Rush is getting what he deserves as a racist, misogynistic, psychotic, hypocrite.
Also who stormed the capitol looking to hang pelosi, have a Kangaroo court, and overturn a democratic election? Yeah we're the ones with the vitriol.
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Because you hear center right and say it's not conservative enough but hear center left and scream it's part of the liberal media. You're doing it to yourselves
No, I'm saying it because it's a fact. I used to read the Wall St Journal and cancelled when they tried to downplay the Hunter Biden stuff, which gave cover to MSM outlets to ignore the story. Fox News is only super conservative at night. Their news division was incredibly anti-Trump, led by Chris Wallace and Bret Baier.
Limbaugh was somewhat of an equalizer. It is what it is. Libs should just enjoy the advantage they have, and will only get stronger now.
Who do you consider only "center-left?"
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Creating enemies, Hatred, Hate Speech, Violent Rhetoric, Racism, Mysogony, Homophobia, Xenophobia, thrived on having listeners with little knowledge and little basic critical thinking skills. He wasn't interested in actual dialogue or discussion. He was the template for Fox News and modern day Trumpism. He peddled lies and unconscionable misinformation daily. He exploited some people's irrational fears daily, for money. He normalized these and other things such as cruelty without compassion, in mainstream media.
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Incredible how a death of someone can bring out the ugliness of people who supposedly have a say in anything
A tv writer, Michael drunker tweets that rush brought “incredible joy” by dying
Another said at least he lived long enough to get cancer and die???
Do these people not understand that that bottom line, rush was a decent human being with an opinion, however different from theirs(duhh) passed away. Another human being man.
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No, I'm saying it because it's a fact. I used to read the Wall St Journal and cancelled when they tried to downplay the Hunter Biden stuff, which gave cover to MSM outlets to ignore the story. Fox News is only super conservative at night. Their news division was incredibly anti-Trump, led by Chris Wallace and Bret Baier.
Limbaugh was somewhat of an equalizer. It is what it is. Libs should just enjoy the advantage they have, and will only get stronger now.
Who do you consider only "center-left?"
So one story makes them not conservative? Their reporting was off then. Same with you saying Fox during the day is not conservative because they critiqued trump. Is Ben Sasse or Romney not conservative either?
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Creating enemies, Hatred, Hate Speech, Violent Rhetoric, Racism, Mysogony, Homophobia, Xenophobia, thrived on having listeners with little knowledge and little basic critical thinking skills. He wasn't interested in actual dialogue or discussion. He was the template for Fox News and modern day Trumpism. He peddled lies and unconscionable misinformation daily. He exploited some people's irrational fears daily, for money. He normalized these and other things such as cruelty without compassion, in mainstream media.
You are so wrong at so many levels man. Try getting away with anyone saying this about someone who you agree with. Not to mention that you are just wrong. Oh did I say that already? Just be a man and move along hoops.
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Rush hits continued. I'm going to need a shower.
"if any race of people should not have guilt about slavery, it's Caucasians."
Re Michael J Fox "Either he didn't take his medication, or he's acting."
He referred to Chelsea Clinton, a teenager at the time, as the "White House dog" well she's female so here he was blatantly calling her a b*tch
"If the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation, then here come the rape police."
Seriously how some of you can have daughters or wives or claim to not support racism and yet still mourn this guy is actually mind boggling to me. He supports the grey area of rape, he calls teen girls a b*tch, he calls anyone who takes birth control a slut and a prostitute. This isn't a PC thing it's literally cura personalis and those of you who support him clearly have an ugly character.
He supported the "grey area of rape."? Where does Bill Clinton fall on this scale? Both left leaning and right leaning people have supported politicians and personalities of ignominious character.
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Incredible how a death of someone can bring out the ugliness of people who supposedly have a say in anything
A tv writer, Michael drunker tweets that rush brought “incredible joy” by dying
Another said at least he lived long enough to get cancer and die???
Do these people not understand that that bottom line, rush was a decent human being with an opinion, however different from theirs(duhh) passed away. Another human being man.
What proof do you have that he was decent? Don't say because he donated some money to charity either. Because if so you better come back saying all the left wing individuals you've insulted over the years who have given to charity are decent individuals.
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He supported the "grey area area of rape."? Where does Bill Clinton fall on this scale? Both left leaning and right leaning people have supported politicians and personalities of ignominious character.
Clinton's a scumbag and I won't be saying I miss him when he's gone. If you're looking for a gotcha moment where I won't admit the left has faults then you're barking up the wrong tree.
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Do you read the Wall St Journal? That's far from a conservative news division. They even helped spike the Hunter Biden story, which the NY Post was proven right on. OANN isn't even on many people's radar, same with Newsmax. Breitbart, Daily Wire and Caller are websites.
Take all those outlets you mentioned and compare the reach vs ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, Wash Post, LA Times, NY Times, sports media, entertainment media and add in big tech and you cannot say conservatives have the advantage, lol.
Just one example of several. The nightly news anchor at NBC is a Republican. A former Republican Congressman (95% Conservative Rating) hosts a four a day, five days a week program on NBC. The Republican former White House Communications Director for George W Bush hosts a two hour program, five days a week on MSNBC. Another hosts shows fot seven hours a week.
This is just one example.
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Clinton's a scumbag and I won't be saying I miss him when he's gone. If you're looking for a gotcha moment where I won't admit the left has faults then you're barking up the wrong tree.
My point is how fo you think liberals would react if conservatives tweeted every 5 seconds that he was a total scumbag and happy he's dead? Would it even be allowed on Twitter?
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This is who liberals are. Compare the reaction on Twitter to when Rush (or any conservative...say, Scalia) dies vs someone like RBG. The unhinged, hateful vitriol is far worse from the Left. They take glee in the death of conservatives. Just look at the posters here.
I take glee in the death of people who have defined themselves as human garbage for years. I don't take glee in the death of genuinely decent people who I disagree with politically.
Rush was a POS. Screw him.
Do you read the Wall St Journal? That's far from a conservative news division. They even helped spike the Hunter Biden story, which the NY Post was proven right on. OANN isn't even on many people's radar, same with Newsmax. Breitbart, Daily Wire and Caller are websites.
Take all those outlets you mentioned and compare the reach vs ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, Wash Post, LA Times, NY Times, sports media, entertainment media and add in big tech and you cannot say conservatives have the advantage, lol.
All I'm hearing is that you like whack job "conservative" stuff and are trying to draw a comparison between Rush and who on the left exactly? There are exactly zero contemporaries on the left for Rush. There has never been lefty talk radio of any measure that approaches what Rush had. Rush's platform was racism, xenophobia, and white supremacy. Not surprisingly, a lot of Americans have eaten that up over the years, and Trump was the result.
Additionally, your personal fee fees about how left some of the publications you've listed don't track with reality. This sort of information is readily available with a simple internet search. Do they LEAN left? Perhaps. But let's not pretend that Rush Limbaugh was some centrist or right leaning radio personality. He perpetuated the right wing lunacy that culminated with the 1/6 insurrection. He was never a compassionate conservative. He was inflammatory, rude, a hypocrite, and he did all this while pretending to speak for the every day man. Which he certainly wasn't. He was Trump before Trump. A truly divisive force in politics for decades.
The world is a better place without him.
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My point is how fo you think liberals would react if conservatives tweeted every 5 seconds that he was a total scumbag? Would it even be allowed on Twitter?
What's with the obsession with Twitter? But depends, did he say anything like what i had quoted rush saying? And not in the 80s or 90s but currently?
If Bill Clinton said half that crap now I'd be right along side every right wing person tweeting he's a scumbag and dancing on his grave as wel
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What's with the obsession with Twitter? But depends, did he say anything like what i had quoted rush saying? And not in the 80s or 90s but currently?
If Bill Clinton said half that crap now I'd be right along side every right wing person tweeting he's a scumbag and dancing on his grave as wel
Is it worse if Clinton "said this crap" or actually raped women? Clinton is the scum of the earth. So is Trump. Yet we have people from both sides virulently supporting them and their repugnance.
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Is it worse if Clinton "said this crap" or actually raped women? Clinton is the scum of the earth. So is Trump. Yet we have people from both sides virulently supporting them and their repugnance.
Trump and Bill Clinton are both accused rapists. I don't see how anyone can defend either of them with a straight face.
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Just one example of several. The nightly news anchor at NBC is a Republican. A former Republican Congressman (95% Conservative Rating) hosts a four a day, five days a week program on NBC. The Republican former White House Communications Director for George W Bush hosts a two hour program, five days a week on MSNBC. Another hosts shows fot seven hours a week.
This is just one example.
If you're writing about Lester Holt at NBC he was a registered Republican but not anymore. There are a number of former Republicans that are now liberals and vice versa.
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A drug addict who had a thing about picking on little girls to a national audience.
Any man who has a daughter - and still respects Rush - isn’t even half a man.
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Is it worse if Clinton "said this crap" or actually raped women? Clinton is the scum of the earth. So is Trump. Yet we have people from both sides virulently supporting them and their repugnance.
I'm confused about your overarching point here. At first it seemed you were mad that people aren't harping on Clinton every day but now you're saying what's worse? Raping a person obviously. But that doesn't mean that two wrongs make a right, nor do they excuse people from listening to stuff that is truly objectively not moral and just wrong
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If you're writing about Lester Holt at NBC he was a registered Republican but not anymore. There are a number of former Republicans that are now liberals, and vice versa.
Right, a lot of people saw the strange turn the party took and got out. The party moved too far right for some people.
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Right, a lot of people saw the strange turn the party took and got out. The party moved too far right for some people.
Yeah he's not a "liberal" as muggsy says. He's probably a Reagan democrat. Far cry from a liberal.
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If you're writing about Lester Holt at NBC he was a registered Republican but not anymore. There are a number of former Republicans that are now liberals and vice versa.
I don't believe you understand the definitions of some of the terms you use, as well, as the views and content of those about whom you speak. Yiu are not alone however, not even in this thread.
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He took full advantage of the end of the Fairness Doctrine. I listened to him in the 90s. I used him to hone arguments in my head. I figured if I completely disagreed with him, I must be on solid ground. If we agreed, I knew I needed to reconsider.
Eventually, he said stuff so irredeemable that I couldn't in good conscience keep listening. And for the last 20 plus years, if a business had him on, I walked out. Maybe I would do my business there at a different time, maybe go somewhere else.
In the '90s, my wife was a manager at a Chicago restaurant. The racist d-bag of an owner loved Limbaugh and listened to him Mon-Fri. My wife had to be in the office a lot, and she did her best to tune out Limbaugh, but sometimes it was impossible and his hatred would ruin her work day. When she quit that job to go back to school, she said she would miss some of her co-workers, "but at least I never have to listen to that racist a-hole again for the rest of my life." And she didn't.
I rarely listened to him, but of course I heard about many of the things he said. The thing I'll remember most was when, after saying for years that anybody who took illegal drugs should receive long prison sentences, he got caught having taken illegal drugs. But of course, that was "different."
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Rush was brilliant.
My hope is that Trump takes over his show so the rest of you morons can choke on your own vomit.
We know you hate muslims.
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If you're writing about Lester Holt at NBC he was a registered Republican but not anymore.
In Little League, my son struck out Holt's son on 3 pitches. I was sitting next to Lester when it happened. That was pretty sweet.
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I'm confused about your overarching point here. At first it seemed you were mad that people aren't harping on Clinton every day but now you're saying what's worse? Raping a person obviously. But that doesn't mean that two wrongs make a right, nor do they excuse people from listening to stuff that is truly objectively not moral and just wrong
Not at all, I'm saying there is a double standard. People have a right to say whatever they want regarding him, Clinton, or anyone else. But let's say the tables were reversed and Don Lemon, Keith Olbermann, Chuck Todd, Rachel Maddow, Cooper, or some flaming lib kicked the bucket tomorrow? What if people went ape-crap and said they were happy they were dead, or they deserve it, or fk them and their audience, etc, etc? What do you think the mainstream reaction would be vs Rush Limbaugh? All I'm saying is that we are not philosophically consistent and the hypocrisy is palpable.
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Not at all, I'm saying there is a double standard. People have a right to say whatever they want regarding him, Clinton, or anyone else. But let's say the tables were reversed and Don Lemon, Keith Olbermann, Chuck Todd, Rachel Maddow, Cooper, or some flaming lib kicked the bucket tomorrow? What if people went ape-crap and said they were happy they were dead, or they deserve it, or fk them and their audience, etc, etc? What do you think the mainstream reaction would be vs Rush Limbaugh? All I'm saying is that we are philosophically consistent and the hypocrisy is palpable.
Not really, you're attempting to make false equivalencies. Rush is despised because he was a hate filled, racist, xenophobic, hypocrite. You can't say the people you've named are bad people. Rush was.
At most, Keith Olberman, but he hasn't been relevant in a decade. If he kicked the bucked and died people under 40 would be like, "who?"
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Incredible how a death of someone can bring out the ugliness of people who supposedly have a say in anything
A tv writer, Michael drunker tweets that rush brought “incredible joy” by dying
Another said at least he lived long enough to get cancer and die???
Do these people not understand that that bottom line, rush was a decent human being with an opinion, however different from theirs(duhh) passed away. Another human being man.
He didn’t believe anything he said ever
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Not at all, I'm saying there is a double standard. People have a right to say whatever they want regarding him, Clinton, or anyone else. But let's say the tables were reversed and Don Lemon, Keith Olbermann, Chuck Todd, Rachel Maddow, Cooper, or some flaming lib kicked the bucket tomorrow? What if people went ape-crap and said they were happy they were dead, or they deserve it, or fk them and their audience, etc, etc? What do you think the mainstream reaction would be vs Rush Limbaugh? All I'm saying is that we are not philosophically consistent and the hypocrisy is palpable.
the problem is none of the above mentioned are drug addicted thrice divorced hypocritical racists nor are they thought of a d-bags.
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If you're writing about Lester Holt at NBC he was a registered Republican but not anymore. There are a number of former Republicans that are now liberals and vice versa.
This is classic Republican "RINO" crap. Notice Muggsy didn't say "there are former Republicans who are now Democrats" he said "there are former Republicans who are now liberals." Being a Republican and being a conservative are not the same thing. Same for Democrats and liberals; those two words mean different things. Rush Limbaugh is certainly a piece of why conservative minded Americans believe their only option is to vote Republican and why they insult and disparage anyone who dares stray from the party ideology (whatever that happens to be now...I'm not sure because they didn't have a platform in 2020...)
My parents are pretty conservative minded and voted GOP for many many years, especially re: religion, but I don't think either will ever vote for a Republican again. There is a sizeable minority of people who feel the same way, clearly Holt is one of them. I'm glad to see some people moving away from the GOP cult, and I think not having Rush Limbaugh on the airwaves anymore will help with that. I look forward to a sensible conservative alternative someday.
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This is classic Republican "RINO" crap. Notice Muggsy didn't say "there are former Republicans who are now Democrats" he said "there are former Republicans who are now liberals." Being a Republican and being a conservative are not the same thing. Same for Democrats and liberals; those two words mean different things. Rush Limbaugh is certainly a piece of why conservative minded Americans believe their only option is to vote Republican and why they insult and disparage anyone who dares stray from the party ideology (whatever that happens to be now...I'm not sure because they didn't have a platform in 2020...)
My parents are pretty conservative minded and voted GOP for many many years, especially re: religion, but I don't think either will ever vote for a Republican again. There is a sizeable minority of people who feel the same way, clearly Holt is one of them. I'm glad to see some people moving away from the GOP cult, and I think not having Rush Limbaugh on the airwaves anymore will help with that. I look forward to a sensible conservative alternative someday.
There are plenty of news stories about the humungous number of people switching political party from Republican to something else after Jan 6.
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I have nothing positive to sat about Rush.
With the Rush death, my co-worker and I were discussing Glen Beck because we've met him before and know who his wife is as well as the girlfriend he dumped for his wife. Glen wanted to get into political talk and be like Rush "because that's where the money is, not Top 40 morning show host." Rush inspired other racists and dirt bags to get into the business compounding our current discourse.
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Not really, you're attempting to make false equivalencies. Rush is despised because he was a hate filled, racist, xenophobic, hypocrite. You can't say the people you've named are bad people. Rush was.
At most, Keith Olberman, but he hasn't been relevant in a decade. If he kicked the bucked and died people under 40 would be like, "who?"
I'm under 40. These are people similar to Hannity and Carlson that have divisive content, intentionally use identity politics to create anger and hate, and only give a crap about ratings and following a certain narrative. So from my perspective yes, they are bad people. Most of these politicians are awful people as well.
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Rush Limbaugh the day after Kurt Cobain died:
“Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentleman, a worthless shred of human debris.”
Spare me your pity party about people dancing on this man’s grave when he did it endlessly to your enjoyment. Hope he enjoys the heat
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Lot of hate spewed here by the "tolerant" ones. I'll bet you all are appalled as well at the vitriol that I hear on CNN and MSNBC on a regular basis as well. The guy was a huge philanthropist unlike most politicians and pundits. Haters gonna hate.
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"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”
-- Rush Limbaugh
“When a gay person turns his back on you, it is anything but an insult; it’s an invitation.”
-- Rush Limbaugh
“You just gotta be who you are, and I think it’s time to get rid of this whole National Basketball Association. Call it the TBA, the Thug Basketball Association, and stop calling them teams. Call ’em gangs.”
-- Rush Limbaugh
“The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”
-- Rush Limbaugh
“Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”
-- Rush Limbaugh
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I don't believe you understand the definitions of some of the terms you use, as well, as the views and content of those about whom you speak. Yiu are not alone however, not even in this thread.
Liberal was the wrong word choice. He's a moderate dem.
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Not really, you're attempting to make false equivalencies. Rush is despised because he was a hate filled, racist, xenophobic, hypocrite. You can't say the people you've named are bad people. Rush was.
At most, Keith Olberman, but he hasn't been relevant in a decade. If he kicked the bucked and died people under 40 would be like, "who?"
this is the most "intellectually"(used very loosely) lazy description of rush you can have. i doubt you've listened to him enough to come up with any better. sometimes it's best you guys just leave it alone
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Not at all, I'm saying there is a double standard. People have a right to say whatever they want regarding him, Clinton, or anyone else. But let's say the tables were reversed and Don Lemon, Keith Olbermann, Chuck Todd, Rachel Maddow, Cooper, or some flaming lib kicked the bucket tomorrow? What if people went ape-crap and said they were happy they were dead, or they deserve it, or fk them and their audience, etc, etc? What do you think the mainstream reaction would be vs Rush Limbaugh? All I'm saying is that we are not philosophically consistent and the hypocrisy is palpable.
People who are gleeful with his passing are only modeling the behavior that he exhibited for years. Which doesn't make it right of course, but spare me the double standard crap.
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People who are gleeful with his passing are only modeling the behavior that he exhibited for years. Which doesn't make it right of course, but spare me the double standard crap.
I didn't listen to him. He was gleeful when people died?
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Do you read the Wall St Journal? That's far from a conservative news division. They even helped spike the Hunter Biden story, which the NY Post was proven right on. OANN isn't even on many people's radar, same with Newsmax. Breitbart, Daily Wire and Caller are websites.
Take all those outlets you mentioned and compare the reach vs ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, Wash Post, LA Times, NY Times, sports media, entertainment media and add in big tech and you cannot say conservatives have the advantage, lol.
Source?
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this is the most "intellectually"(used very loosely) lazy description of rush you can have. i doubt you've listened to him enough to come up with any better. sometimes it's best you guys just leave it alone
Nope. He is scum. And you make yourself scum when you associate yourself with scum. There are a ton of quotes throughout this thread that are hard evidence that he is all the things I describe him to be. There are hours of videos and radio recordings available. And you want to talk intellectually lazy?
Stick to teeth, buffon.
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Lot of hate spewed here by the "tolerant" ones. I'll bet you all are appalled as well at the vitriol that I hear on CNN and MSNBC on a regular basis as well. The guy was a huge philanthropist unlike most politicians and pundits. Haters gonna hate.
How was attending the insurrection?
this is the most "intellectually"(used very loosely) lazy description of rush you can have. i doubt you've listened to him enough to come up with any better. sometimes it's best you guys just leave it alone
Please by all means defend the long list of quotes I put up then and show us why they are not Racist, or at least racially charged, mysogynistic, or xenophobic
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I'd like to add...
(https://i.imgur.com/s0zIgPW.gif)
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Lot of hate spewed here by the "tolerant" ones. I'll bet you all are appalled as well at the vitriol that I hear on CNN and MSNBC on a regular basis as well. The guy was a huge philanthropist unlike most politicians and pundits. Haters gonna hate.
What’s your opinion on Barack Obama? He gave to charity, too. Haters gonna hate?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/02/06/obama-donated-over-1-million-to-charity-as-president-heres-where-the-money-went/?sh=3d5b6fc1459e
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Here's this thread in a nutshell till a person on the right actually defends the quotes me and Pakuni have posted.
Rush: Dies
Left: good he wasn't a good person
Right: he was a great guy the left is horrible for disrespecting this man.
Left: um can you defend all these statements...
Right: what about Bill Clinton
Left: He's scum too, can you break down those rush statements
Right: the media! The lack of tolerance! Charity! Both sides support bad people!
Left: so about defending those statements so we can see why he might be good from your perspective?
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Nope. He is scum. And you make yourself scum when you associate yourself with scum. There are a ton of quotes throughout this thread that are hard evidence that he is all the things I describe him to be. There are hours of videos and radio recordings available. And you want to talk intellectually lazy?
Stick to teeth, buffon.
BUFFON?!
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BUFFON?!
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Excellent
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BUFFON?!
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Oh god dammit, I deserve that.
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Liberal was the wrong word choice. He's a moderate dem.
1) This is still incorrect.
2) You seem to be missing overall point as well.
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Here's this thread in a nutshell till a person on the right actually defends the quotes me and Pakuni have posted.
Rush: Dies
Left: good he wasn't a good person
Right: he was a great guy the left is horrible for disrespecting this man.
Left: um can you defend all these statements...
Right: what about Bill Clinton
Left: He's scum too, can you break down those rush statements
Right: the media! The lack of tolerance! Charity! Both sides support bad people!
Left: so about defending those statements so we can see why he might be good from your perspective?
Stop being intolerant of blatant Xeno/homophobia Galway, you are stifling people's ability to hate those different than them while hiding behind victimhood.
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Lot of hate spewed here by the "tolerant" ones. I'll bet you all are appalled as well at the vitriol that I hear on CNN and MSNBC on a regular basis as well. The guy was a huge philanthropist unlike most politicians and pundits. Haters gonna hate.
That "hate" is actual Limbaugh quotes.
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1) This is still incorrect.
2) You seem to be missing overall point as well.
I guess I did. Is your point that the mainstream media is not left leaning or that Holt is a Republican? Or maybe it's something else?
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"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”
-- Rush Limbaugh
“When a gay person turns his back on you, it is anything but an insult; it’s an invitation.”
-- Rush Limbaugh
“You just gotta be who you are, and I think it’s time to get rid of this whole National Basketball Association. Call it the TBA, the Thug Basketball Association, and stop calling them teams. Call ’em gangs.”
-- Rush Limbaugh
“The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”
-- Rush Limbaugh
“Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”
-- Rush Limbaugh
barely scratching the surface here
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Al McGuire would have punched Rush Limbaugh in the face. Any honest Marquette fan knows this.
Thought and prayers for his family. I can empathize with the loss of a loved one.
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Al McGuire would have punched Rush Limbaugh in the face. Any honest Marquette fan knows this.
Well done. And probably true. See: Rupp, Adolf
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That "hate" is actual Limbaugh quotes.
In one of his books (I think "Lying Liars"), Al Franken said that he thought everything Limbaugh did was an act, that he didn't really believe what he said (I would imagine that changed in 2008 though). Meanwhile, Franken said Sean Hannity really believed what he spews.
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https://twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1362098058805334017?s=19 (https://twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1362098058805334017?s=19)
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https://twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1362098058805334017?s=19 (https://twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1362098058805334017?s=19)
Shouldn't he be busy spreading false information about the current weather disasters?
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https://twitter.com/SpeakerVos/status/1362169209850122248?s=19 (https://twitter.com/SpeakerVos/status/1362169209850122248?s=19)
Speak for yourself, Robin. This news has me at full staff.
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What I've learned on Scoop over the last 24 or so hours:
Saying the N word when you're under the influence isn't a big deal. Kids will be kids.
Rush Limbaugh and Ruth Bader Ginsburg compare favorably to each other.
Some people have really continued to out themselves here. Guess it's easy to do so behind an internet username.
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what you are witnessing is the strategy to villify anyone who does not agree with you therefore you don't have to listen to what they might say and have to defend your views. Had any of you called his show you would have been welcome, treated respectfully and listened to.
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what you are witnessing is the strategy to villify anyone who does not agree with you therefore you don't have to listen to what they might say and have to defend your views. Had any of you called his show you would have been welcome, treated respectfully and listened to.
Yeah like the black lady who called in and he said to "take the bone out of her nose then call back"
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what you are witnessing is the strategy to villify anyone who does not agree with you therefore you don't have to listen to what they might say and have to defend your views. Had any of you called his show you would have been welcome, treated respectfully and listened to.
I tried. Never got through.
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what you are witnessing is the strategy to villify anyone who does not agree with you therefore you don't have to listen to what they might say and have to defend your views. Had any of you called his show you would have been welcome, treated respectfully and listened to.
Why on earth would I want to do that?
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what you are witnessing is the strategy to villify anyone who does not agree with you therefore you don't have to listen to what they might say and have to defend your views. Had any of you called his show you would have been welcome, treated respectfully and listened to.
People pointing out the awful things he said as an adult male to garner higher ratings is vilifying people I suppose
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what you are witnessing is the strategy to villify anyone who does not agree with you therefore you don't have to listen to what they might say and have to defend your views. Had any of you called his show you would have been welcome, treated respectfully and listened to.
You have every right to be a bigot. You also have a right to vilify people for abhorrent, bigoted views.
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Freedom of speech does not equal freedom from being judged for what you say.
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what you are witnessing is the strategy to villify anyone who does not agree with you therefore you don't have to listen to what they might say and have to defend your views. Had any of you called his show you would have been welcome, treated respectfully and listened to.
We're literally posting the things he said. If that vilifies him, then it vilifies him.
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Sure Mussolini did some questionable things but
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What I've learned on Scoop over the last 24 or so hours:
Saying the N word when you're under the influence isn't a big deal. Kids will be kids.
Rush Limbaugh and Ruth Bader Ginsburg compare favorably to each other.
Some people have really continued to out themselves here. Guess it's easy to do so behind an internet username.
when you change your name to something less than provocative to say the least, racist to stretch it, you would have more cred man
if rush were all the things being called here, he would have been cancelled a long time ago. unless some here put al sharpton, jesse jackson among many other liberal icons, then there is nothing more to say here. you cannot have a guy revered by so many millions be the type of person that is being portrayed here. if you don't like him, fine. but i don't think many here really know him other than a few sound bites. but 'phobe or 'ist is not who he was
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when you change your name to something less than provocative to say the least, racist to stretch it, you would have more cred man
if rush were all the things being called here, he would have been cancelled a long time ago. unless some here put al sharpton, jesse jackson among many other liberal icons, then there is nothing more to say here. you cannot have a guy revered by so many millions be the type of person that is being portrayed here. if you don't like him, fine. but i don't think many here really know him other than a few sound bites. but 'phobe or 'ist is not who he was
No, he was a con man and entertainer who duped morons for decades
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"Now, I want to tell you the truth about the coronavirus. … Yeah, I’m dead right on this. The coronavirus is the common cold, folks.”
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There is an awful of hate out there. There are some liberal journalists on CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc. that I do not care for, and quite possibly dislike, but if one of them passed I would never say some of the things being said about Rush on here and elsewhere. Folks, I simply do not get the hate. At our house we agree we can hate cancer and Hitler, nothing else or no one beyond that.
As for Rush, he was great entertainer, businessman and a great American success story. He will be missed by this guy.
A few thoughts:
1) Goose gets Rush Limbaugh better than most people. He was an entertainer who used politics as his forum to entertain.
2) What drove liberals crazy about Limbaugh was he was effective. Over the years, liberals tried but never could they come up with their own version of Rush Limbaugh. Rachel Maddow comes the closest but over the years, they've tried everyone under the sun and no one could out-Rush Rush Limbaugh.
3) The biggest problem Rush had was his ad hominum attacks. Whether it was Hillary Clinton, feminists, gay and lesbian leaders, he would have had much more respect if he'd left the "feminazis" off the air and focused on the issues. Saying a feminist was a feminist because she could not attract a man, for example, was well-worn 1960s era piece of nonsense that may have played to a select audience but did him more harm than good.
4) The guy had an incredible radio voice.
5) Rush probably saved AM radio.
6) He had an outsized influence on conservative politics and probably helped elect Ronald Reagan and Bush II.
7) I find it offensive that people are celebrating his death. C'mon folks, let's leave it to God to judge the man. People loved him and let's have some compassion for the folks whose life he affected. We don't celebrate people's death, unless it is Hitler or Stalin or Pol Pot.
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when you change your name to something less than provocative to say the least, racist to stretch it, you would have more cred man
if rush were all the things being called here, he would have been cancelled a long time ago. unless some here put al sharpton, jesse jackson among many other liberal icons, then there is nothing more to say here. you cannot have a guy revered by so many millions be the type of person that is being portrayed here. if you don't like him, fine. but i don't think many here really know him other than a few sound bites. but 'phobe or 'ist is not who he was
My lord are you really this dumb or is an act?
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Rocket, you are being deliberately obtuse. There is/was an audience for what he was selling.
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A few thoughts:
1) Goose gets Rush Limbaugh better than most people. He was an entertainer who used politics as his forum to entertain.
2) What drove liberals crazy about Limbaugh was he was effective. Over the years, liberals tried but never could they come up with their own version of Rush Limbaugh. Rachel Maddow comes the closest but over the years, they've tried everyone under the sun and no one could out-Rush Rush Limbaugh.
3) The biggest problem Rush had was his ad hominum attacks. Whether it was Hillary Clinton, feminists, gay and lesbian leaders, he would have had much more respect if he'd left the "feminazis" off the air and focused on the issues. Saying a feminist was a feminist because she could not attract a man, for example, was well-worn 1960s era piece of nonsense that may have played to a select audience but did him more harm than good.
4) The guy had an incredible radio voice.
5) Rush probably saved AM radio.
6) He had an outsized influence on conservative politics and probably helped elect Ronald Reagan and Bush II.
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He had zero bearing on the election of Ronald Reagan. Zilch, nada, none
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So, we should celebrate - or at least not denigrate - someone who was successful and supported by millions? Regardless of what that person did/said?
Really..?
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A few thoughts:
1) Goose gets Rush Limbaugh better than most people. He was an entertainer who used politics as his forum to entertain.
2) What drove liberals crazy about Limbaugh was he was effective. Over the years, liberals tried but never could they come up with their own version of Rush Limbaugh. Rachel Maddow comes the closest but over the years, they've tried everyone under the sun and no one could out-Rush Rush Limbaugh.
3) The biggest problem Rush had was his ad hominum attacks. Whether it was Hillary Clinton, feminists, gay and lesbian leaders, he would have had much more respect if he'd left the "feminazis" off the air and focused on the issues. Saying a feminist was a feminist because she could not attract a man, for example, was well-worn 1960s era piece of nonsense that may have played to a select audience but did him more harm than good.
4) The guy had an incredible radio voice.
5) Rush probably saved AM radio.
6) He had an outsized influence on conservative politics and probably helped elect Ronald Reagan and Bush II.
7) I find it offensive that people are celebrating his death. C'mon folks, let's leave it to God to judge the man. People loved him and let's have some compassion for the folks whose life he affected. We don't celebrate people's death, unless it is Hitler or Stalin or Pol Pot.
At best, he parlayed the resentments, hatreds and fears of middle America into a lucrative career for himself. Good for him.
At worst he magnified those same things for a generation and helped make this country a lesser version of itself.
The world is a better place without that kind of person around.
Who gives a sh!t about AM radio?
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5 pages on Rush and the concept of anal warts has never come up.
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Rush was a Shock Jock.
Five best interviewers not in any order: Barbara, Howard, Anderson, Mike Wallace and Rush. Maddow at 6th. When serious, I actually think Howard Stern is the best followed by Rush. Each were the best when they can put their politics aside.
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He had zero bearing on the election of Ronald Reagan. Zilch, nada, none
Limbaugh was selling tickets for the Kansas City Royals when Reagan was elected.
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Not surprising at all the hateful comments here. I knew when this day came, this is how it would be among the left. They hated Rush, because a) they couldn’t figure out how to shut him up and get him off the air, b) his conservative beliefs resonated with millions of Americans for decades, and c) he was masterful at discrediting the failed arguments and policies of liberalism, mostly in a cheerful and non abrasive way. He was a genius at communication and relating to ordinary people, which liberal elites fail miserably at. So all the liberals had remaining was to demonize him. This is common practice of people who can’t stand free thought and expression of ideas throughout history, if a person or group threatens your ideology, and you can’t win with your ideas and arguments, then you just try and nuke them out and label them all what Rush has been called in this thread. The supposed quotes being attributed to him are either outright lies, or being taken completely out of context how they were expressed.
God bless Rush, may you find eternal life in the Kingdom of God.
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Not surprising at all the hateful comments here. I knew when this day came, this is how it would be among the left. They hated Rush, because a) they couldn’t figure out how to shut him up and get him off the air, b) his conservative beliefs resonated with millions of Americans for decades, and c) he was masterful at discrediting the failed arguments and policies of liberalism, mostly in a cheerful and non abrasive way. He was a genius at communication and relating to ordinary people, which liberal elites fail miserably at. So all the liberals had remaining was to demonize him. This is common practice of people who can’t stand free thought and expression of ideas throughout history, if a person or group threatens your ideology, and you can’t win with your ideas and arguments, then you just try and nuke them out and label them all what Rush has been called in this thread. The supposed quotes being attributed to him are either outright lies, or being taken completely out of context how they were expressed.
God bless Rush, may you find eternal life in the Kingdom of God.
Jealous of your ability to convince yourself away from reality because it doesn’t correspond your worldview. Here’s the radio show transcript for the NFL crips and bloods comments.
https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194354/https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2007/01/19/the_classless_nfl_culture/
There’s plenty of other transcripts I can provide but why waste the time for someone disconnected from reality.
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Multiple posters have posted direct quotes from Limbaugh and asked his defenders to give their thoughts.
So far, not a single one has done so.
Cowardly.
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Rush was a Shock Jock.
Five best interviewers not in any order: Barbara, Howard, Anderson, Mike Wallace and Rush. Maddow at 6th. When serious, I actually think Howard Stern is the best followed by Rush. Each were the best when they can put their politics aside.
IMO, Maddow has no business being up on that list unless maybe it’s just current TV personalities. Larry King (in his prime), Dick Cavett, and Terry Gross all pop to mind as closer to a top 5 than Maddow
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Multiple posters have posted direct quotes from Limbaugh and asked his defenders to give their thoughts.
So far, not a single one has done so.
Cowardly.
Lots of feelings from the F*** your Feelings contingent tonight, though.
So I'm glad they have evolved on this
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Not surprising at all the hateful comments here. I knew when this day came, this is how it would be among the left. They hated Rush, because a) they couldn’t figure out how to shut him up and get him off the air, b) his conservative beliefs resonated with millions of Americans for decades, and c) he was masterful at discrediting the failed arguments and policies of liberalism, mostly in a cheerful and non abrasive way. He was a genius at communication and relating to ordinary people, which liberal elites fail miserably at. So all the liberals had remaining was to demonize him. This is common practice of people who can’t stand free thought and expression of ideas throughout history, if a person or group threatens your ideology, and you can’t win with your ideas and arguments, then you just try and nuke them out and label them all what Rush has been called in this thread. The supposed quotes being attributed to him are either outright lies, or being taken completely out of context how they were expressed.
God bless Rush, may you find eternal life in the Kingdom of God.
Men like him don’t find the kingdom of god but he is probably enjoying a different type of KC barbecue
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The supposed quotes being attributed to him are either outright lies, or being taken completely out of context how they were expressed.
Every quote I've posted can be verified.
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Every quote I've posted can be verified.
Seconded for the ones I posted.
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Can't imagine trying to change anyone's opinion one way or another on Rush at this point. But awarding him the medal of freedom and flying flags at half staff in memoriam is some real insidious Overton window sh!t.
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Not particularly interested in speaking ill of the dead on this one. Not interested in providing the dead a hagiography that overlooks the darker details of his life either.
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Personally, I think one should be able to agree or disagree with a person's politics, without the need to vitriolic. If Keith Olbermann died, I'd shed no tears. But neither I nor most of the conservatives I know would be dancing on his grave either, as it's still a human life that is gone. I'll neither celebrate nor denigrate his life.
Why is it that people who disagree with someone who has views like Rush, have the need to be so hateful and piss on the deceased's grave (figuratively or literally)? And it cuts both ways. Those who disagree with Olbermann's politics shouldn't be so hate filled that when he dies they have the need to spew the "rest in piss", etc. crap. It will happen, but it'll be a fraction of the number of people who feel the need to do it when someone like Rush dies.
IBTL.
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Personally, I think one should be able to agree or disagree with a person's politics, without the need to vitriolic. If Keith Olbermann died, I'd shed no tears. But neither I nor most of the conservatives I know would be dancing on his grave either, as it's still a human life that is gone. I'll neither celebrate nor denigrate his life.
Why is it that people who disagree with someone who has views like Rush, have the need to be so hateful and piss on the deceased's grave (figuratively or literally)? And it cuts both ways. Those who disagree with Olbermann's politics shouldn't be so hate filled that when he dies they have the need to spew the "rest in piss", etc. crap. It will happen, but it'll be a fraction of the number of people who feel the need to do it when someone like Rush dies.
IBTL.
Again it's about what that person did in life. Rush was hateful and vitriolic (unless you'd like to pick a parts the quotes me and Pakuni posted) thus why should those who disagree with him be held to a higher standard?
Again you want to put him on a pedestal as some conservative like Romney who is just a guy with right leaning beliefs when that's not what Rush has espoused for years.
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Again it's about what that person did in life. Rush was hateful and vitriolic (unless you'd like to pick a parts the quotes me and Pakuni posted) thus why should those who disagree with him be held to a higher standard?
Again you want to put him on a pedestal as some conservative like Romney who is just a guy with right leaning beliefs when that's not what Rush has espoused for years.
Where did I say anything about putting him or anyone else on a pedestal? My point is, Don't celebrate the person's life. But why the need to celebrate another human being's death?
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Litehouse
I agree. To celebrate someone's death just be reserved for special really bad guys. I sincerely do not get the off the wall reaction to someone passing away.
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Where did I say anything about putting him or anyone else on a pedestal? My point is, Don't celebrate the person's life. But why the need to celebrate another human being's death?
Because he felt the need to do so in his life to the sick and vulnerable for the sake of making money. Or does death excuse someone's repulsive actions in life?
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Where did I say anything about putting him or anyone else on a pedestal? My point is, Don't celebrate the person's life. But why the need to celebrate another human being's death?
Because if that person is leading to the spread of hate then the world is better place.
I don't think any of us on the left are popping champagne and dancing on the guys grave. But as with anybody who espouses hate especially on a large scale platform I'll gladly say "good riddance" and for the record I'll say it when Bill Maher dies too.
Let me put it simple:
If person puts hate into world and end goal is to have less hate in the world then world is better than when that person dies.
Now you or goose or anyone else are more than welcome to argue the quotes Pakuni and I posted aren't hateful and convince us that Rush didn't put hate into the world which would make our reactions unjustified. But not one of you have done that instead you've just reiterated various forms of how terrible it is to be happy he's no longer around.
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Here's the video evidence of many of those quotes, just so people like Hutch can stop claiming fake news.
https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1362152851770920962?s=20
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Where did I say anything about putting him or anyone else on a pedestal? My point is, Don't celebrate the person's life. But why the need to celebrate another human being's death?
Rush danced on plenty of graves and the misery of others. I think he’s looking up from hell and enjoying people dancing on his grave
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Here's the video evidence of many of those quotes, just so people like Hutch can stop claiming fake news.
https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1362152851770920962?s=20
Most every guy posting one this board would flip out if I said their daughter or wife was a slut or prostitute for taking birth control for a medical condition.
They'd flip out if I said their golf outings or meat summits looked like a KkK convention.
But laugh and expect respect when the guy who said those things about others dies.
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Personally, I think one should be able to agree or disagree with a person's politics, without the need to vitriolic. If Keith Olbermann died, I'd shed no tears. But neither I nor most of the conservatives I know would be dancing on his grave either, as it's still a human life that is gone. I'll neither celebrate nor denigrate his life.
Why is it that people who disagree with someone who has views like Rush, have the need to be so hateful and piss on the deceased's grave (figuratively or literally)? And it cuts both ways. Those who disagree with Olbermann's politics shouldn't be so hate filled that when he dies they have the need to spew the "rest in piss", etc. crap. It will happen, but it'll be a fraction of the number of people who feel the need to do it when someone like Rush dies.
IBTL.
Look, celebrating the death of someone simply because your politics differ is wrong and, truthfully, I don't see much of that happening here. Maybe I've missed a bunch, so please direct me to all those posts saying "Hooray!" and "I'm so happy he's dead!"
I think you're being pretty selective in your "it''ll be a fraction" of the number bit. There were no shortage of celebratory comments about the death of RBG, as I recall.
And let's not forget which side openly promulgates a conspiracy theory whose fever dream ending features the glorious public executions of scores of Democratic politicians.
Neither side is pure here, but especially not the Right.
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Where did I say anything about putting him or anyone else on a pedestal? My point is, Don't celebrate the person's life. But why the need to celebrate another human being's death?
Got it, don't celebrate that Dahmer died. Just ignore it. I'm not saying that Rush was Dahmer, but you take my point, right?
Rush used to celebrate death, so I think celebrating his is very apropos.
I don't plan to celebrate Bob Dole's passing when he does, but I certainly disagree with his politics.
Why is this so difficult to understand?
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The world is a brighter place today.
RIP
You can guess what the P stands for.
Deplorable human being, contributed heavily to the current state of politics.
I don't celebrate his death, I mourn his life.
I take glee in the death of people who have defined themselves as human garbage for years. I don't take glee in the death of genuinely decent people who I disagree with politically.
Rush was a POS. Screw him.
That's just the first 3 pages on here. That's not counting the number of people spewing hateful comments on the rest of the internet. If it makes you feel better to be hateful to someone who died, it's your right to do so. But I don't get it.
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My lord are you really this dumb or is an act?
Nope, he really is this dumb. Years of posting don't lie.
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Got it, don't celebrate that Dahmer died. Just ignore it. I'm not saying that Rush was Dahmer, but you take my point, right?
Rush used to celebrate death, so I think celebrating his is very apropos.
I don't plan to celebrate Bob Dole's passing when he does, but I certainly disagree with his politics.
Why is this so difficult to understand?
So because you celebrate death, it'd be apropos for someone to celebrate when you die? That's a bizarre way to look at life and death, and I hope no one chooses to do that, but to each his own.
And a serial killer is completely different than someone who was on the radio. I know you say Rush wasn't Dahmer, but the analogy isn't even close. Why is this so difficult for some to understand?
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Here's the video evidence of many of those quotes, just so people like Hutch can stop claiming fake news.
https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1362152851770920962?s=20
Ha ha, like you think facts and actual video will change these peoples' minds?
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Guy had a great voice and I've heard from several people he was the nicest guy in person.
However, complete scumbag and a top-shelf penis.
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Lot of hate spewed here by the "tolerant" ones.
I am always awed by the "why aren't you tolerant about my intolerance" argument.
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That's just the first 3 pages on here. That's not counting the number of people spewing hateful comments on the rest of the internet. If it makes you feel better to be hateful to someone who died, it's your right to do so. But I don't get it.
When you spend your entire life spreading hate through racism, homophobia, and misogyny while also denigrating and laughing at the dead, why should it be any surprise when those who abhor those vile beliefs are less than sympathetic?
I think Goose was right:
To celebrate someone's death just be reserved for special really bad guys.
Limbaugh was one of those special really bad guys who spent his life sewing the divisiveness and hate that permeates our society today.
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So because you celebrate death, it'd be apropos for someone to celebrate when you die? That's a bizarre way to look at life and death, and I hope no one chooses to do that, but to each his own.
And a serial killer is completely different than someone who was on the radio. I know you say Rush wasn't Dahmer, but the analogy isn't even close. Why is this so difficult for some to understand?
Words and actions matter, even on the radio, even on television,. They matter a lot given the platform and power.
This is what I posted below. Publicly, this is who he was on a daily basis. And it caused great harm and damage to many for a long time.
"Creating enemies, Hatred, Hate Speech, Violent Rhetoric, Racism, Mysogony, Homophobia, Xenophobia, thrived on having listeners with little knowledge and little basic critical thinking skills. He wasn't interested in actual dialogue or discussion. He was the template for Fox News and modern day Trumpism. He peddled lies and unconscionable misinformation daily. He exploited some people's irrational fears daily, for money. He normalized these and other things such as cruelty without compassion, in mainstream media."
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That's just the first 3 pages on here. That's not counting the number of people spewing hateful comments on the rest of the internet. If it makes you feel better to be hateful to someone who died, it's your right to do so. But I don't get it.
I think we have different definitions of hateful. Yours here seems to be:
Making racist and bigoted comments = not hateful.
Pointing out that someone made racist and bigoted comments = super hateful.
Edit: To be clear, I'm not celebrating his death. But I'm not interested in lionizing him or whitewashing his past on account of his death.
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I don't celebrate his death. Not my style.
I do take issue with those celebrating his life.
It has nothing to do with politics. I went to watch George Bushs funeral procession. I was deeply saddened when other leaders like McCain and Reagan passed away. It has everything to do with the hate Limbaugh spewed.
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I don't celebrate his death. Not my style.
I do take issue with those celebrating his life.
It has nothing to do with politics. I went to watch George Bushs funeral procession. I was deeply saddened when other leaders like McCain and Reagan passed away. It has everything to do with the hate Limbaugh spewed.
Yep.
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Just a blip in the universe. He was likely loved by his family and truly meant something to them. That’s a sad thought for me and anyone else who has lost a loved one.
For me, vilifying him in his death is akin to raising a statue for someone after death as some sort of reverence. Neither are particularly helpful nor necessary.
Let no man bring you so low as to hate him...as it were.
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Just a blip in the universe. He was likely loved by his family and truly meant something to them. That’s a sad thought for me and anyone else who has lost a loved one.
I'm sure at least some of his wives loved him..., at least for a while.
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I think we have different definitions of hateful. Yours here seems to be:
Making racist and bigoted comments = not hateful.
Pointing out that someone made racist and bigoted comments = super hateful.
Quite the leap you made there.
First, I didn't say nor did I imply that making racist and bigoted comments isn't hateful.
Second, point out someone's racist and bigoted comments all you want. If you or anyone else wants to say Rush was a hateful, bigoted, a$$hat, that's your prerogative. But that wasn't my point.
Like Goose and others have said, I just don't get the need for some to react to someone's passing by celebrating the fact that the person died.
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Just a blip in the universe. He was likely loved by his family and truly meant something to them. That’s a sad thought for me and anyone else who has lost a loved one.
For me, vilifying him in his death is akin to raising a statue for someone after death as some sort of reverence. Neither are particularly helpful nor necessary.
Let no man bring you so low as to hate him...as it were.
Yep.
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So because you celebrate death, it'd be apropos for someone to celebrate when you die? That's a bizarre way to look at life and death, and I hope no one chooses to do that, but to each his own.
And a serial killer is completely different than someone who was on the radio. I know you say Rush wasn't Dahmer, but the analogy isn't even close. Why is this so difficult for some to understand?
If people want to celebrate my death for the things I've done over my lifetime that is their decision. I won't know because I'll be dead. If the worst thing I ever did is celebrate the death of Rush Limbaugh then I doubt anyone would take notice.
And to be clear, I'm not throwing some party, I just think he was as bad of an American as there has been. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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I'm not celebrating his death. But conservatives love to hide behind the line of "why do you need to hate someone if you don't agree with their politics?" The hate for Limbaugh has nothing to do with his politics. It has to do with being a horrible human being.
I don't recall a thread "celebrating" the death of John McCain on Scoop in 2018. Maybe it has nothing to do with political party.
But yeah. Let's compare Limbaugh to RBG some more.
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I'm not celebrating his death. But conservatives love to hide behind the line of "why do you need to hate someone if you don't agree with their politics?" The hate for Limbaugh has nothing to do with his politics. It has to do with being a horrible human being.
I don't recall a thread "celebrating" the death of John McCain on Scoop in 2018. Maybe it has nothing to do with political party.
But yeah. Let's compare Limbaugh to RBG some more.
This is interesting. I don’t think pointing out that someone made hateful, racist, insensitive comments (regardless of whether he meant it or was a good marketer, or both) is celebrating his death. Maybe some do, trying to find the disconnect.
Additionally, I think it’s nearly all about politics. If Rush didn’t say what he said and seem to speak to “one side” of the “political game” he would just be another late afternoon drive time AM radio host. I actually think the hate is nearly all related to his politics. If we start calling out all the insensitive, racist, hateful commenters, then maybe it becomes less about the politics.
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Interesting read posted by John Kass:
https://spectator.us/topic/people-gloating-over-rush-limbaugh-death/?fbclid=IwAR0AqLmn9hrEMbizdCk2Q-d3kXl03iGFIZTSqUXGgmqwPRAGTjujquJODN0
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Interesting read posted by John Kass:
https://spectator.us/topic/people-gloating-over-rush-limbaugh-death/?fbclid=IwAR0AqLmn9hrEMbizdCk2Q-d3kXl03iGFIZTSqUXGgmqwPRAGTjujquJODN0
The Headline says it all:
Why are people gloating over Rush Limbaugh’s death?
Political divisions have crushed our sense of decency
/r/leopardsatemyface content
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Interesting read posted by John Kass:
https://spectator.us/topic/people-gloating-over-rush-limbaugh-death/?fbclid=IwAR0AqLmn9hrEMbizdCk2Q-d3kXl03iGFIZTSqUXGgmqwPRAGTjujquJODN0
It isn't about politics or political divisions.
It's about publicly saying and doing vile, terrible things on a daily basis for personal gain. (Many documented examples listed here). You act as though he was just some blow radio personality without accountability. But hate and lies have consequences, especially when one does that daily for decades.
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Interesting read posted by John Kass:
https://spectator.us/topic/people-gloating-over-rush-limbaugh-death/?fbclid=IwAR0AqLmn9hrEMbizdCk2Q-d3kXl03iGFIZTSqUXGgmqwPRAGTjujquJODN0
I don't think Rush is a particularly good example of this. He was an inflammatory shock jock, not a politician or political operative.
Someone like John McCain is a better one. Scoop didn't cheer his death, but plenty of idiots like those cited in the article did. Everyone's favorite curmudgeon Drew Magary wrote a piece after his death that was basically like "Don't celebrate McCain as an American hero, he was a POS" and then basically just talked about his politics with venom.
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I don't think Rush is a particularly good example of this. He was an inflammatory shock jock, not a politician or political operative.
Someone like John McCain is a better one. Scoop didn't cheer his death, but plenty of idiots like those cited in the article did. Everyone's favorite curmudgeon Drew Magary wrote a piece after his death that was basically like "Don't celebrate McCain as an American hero, he was a POS" and then basically just talked about his politics with venom.
There's 7billion people who are going to have an opinion, you're always going to be able to find "plenty of idiots". The difference is how many and if it's warranted.
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There's 7billion people who are going to have an opinion, you're always going to be able to find "plenty of idiots". The difference is how many and if it's warranted.
Sure but the difference is when it’s coming from people with hundreds of thousands of followers and a platform/writing outlets versus “SteelersFan94” and their 25 followers or other countless Twitter eggs. Those people, like Jay Cutler says, WHOOOO CARRRRREESSS. It’s more when it’s prominent writers, members of the media, etc...
Dancing on someone’s grave like Rush may be a bit distasteful, but I don’t care too much. The tenor of that article has a point otherwise, just not in this case. But that’s another discussion entirely.
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Interesting read posted by John Kass:
https://spectator.us/topic/people-gloating-over-rush-limbaugh-death/?fbclid=IwAR0AqLmn9hrEMbizdCk2Q-d3kXl03iGFIZTSqUXGgmqwPRAGTjujquJODN0
Especially interesting given the trajectory of Kass' writing in recent years.
Perhaps a guy who's floated "George Soros is an evil puppetmaster" conspiracy theories isn't the one to tsk tsk others over their sense of decency.
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There's 7billion people who are going to have an opinion, you're always going to be able to find "plenty of idiots". The difference is how many and if it's warranted.
People like Drew are why democrats lose. He blames other democrats for not being far enough left and is unwilling to meet with, much less compromise with those he disagrees with. I like Drew’s stuff but he’s an insufferable lout in this regard
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Please don't give Kass the page views. He has really gone off the deep end the past 5-10 years, seeing all sorts of things in the shadows that do not exist and then passing them on to his readers. His trending towards Q status. His articles tend to be part fiction and non-fiction.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/3cc699b0d35ecadd89c74f87cd82eb0c/tenor.gif?itemid=5414857)
As to Rush, TAMU is spot on. Sorry for the family's loss but glad he is off the radio.
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Quite the leap you made there.
First, I didn't say nor did I imply that making racist and bigoted comments isn't hateful.
Second, point out someone's racist and bigoted comments all you want. If you or anyone else wants to say Rush was a hateful, bigoted, a$$hat, that's your prerogative. But that wasn't my point.
Like Goose and others have said, I just don't get the need for some to react to someone's passing by celebrating the fact that the person died.
I understand your point, even though I may not particularly agree with it on a personal level. That is fine, we can agree to disagree and I think the point you made is thoughtful.
My issue is still not one person who came into this thread to complain about the decency of those who have criticized him here have had the balls to address any of the abhorrent quotes that were listed, despite many requests.
All that says to me is that they agree with those quotes, unless they would like to prove many of us wrong. And that sucks.
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I was gonna eulogize him, but this one is perfect from Rudy.
https://twitter.com/peltzmadeline/status/1362512103660265475?s=21
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I was gonna eulogize him, but this one is perfect from Rudy.
https://twitter.com/peltzmadeline/status/1362512103660265475?s=21
I'm not sure that story says much, if anything, about Rush, but it certainly says...something...about Rudy.
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Like Goose and others have said, I just don't get the need for some to react to someone's passing by celebrating the fact that the person died.
This is the crux, the root of the root. Celebrating, cheering, jumping for joy over someone’s death is indefensible and wrong. Period. No matter if he/she said bad things or, worse yet, did bad things. Even if you honestly feel (serial killer, etc.) that they deserved to die.
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This is the crux, the root of the root. Celebrating, cheering, jumping for joy over someone’s death is indefensible and wrong. Period. No matter if he/she said bad things or, worse yet, did bad things. Even if you honestly feel (serial killer, etc.) that they deserved to die.
I was happy when Osama bin Laden got got.
Defensible and right.
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ZaLin
There is no doubt that Rush said some mean, nasty things over the years and everyone can/should be offended. I would not argue that point one bit. As for me, I spent a tremendous amount of time in the car for two plus decades ago and often listened to Rush. To me, he was an entertainer first and conservative talk host second. I did not agree with every word that came out of his and often cringed when he said things. I can say the same for Howard Stern who also provided hundreds of hours of entertainment to me.
Truthfully, I could not care less about the hate being thrown his way, only do not understand the level of hatred towards the man. I have zero idea if he was a good man offset, only know he was loyal and gave away a lot of money without any fanfare. He might be have been the jagoff that many believe he was and I still would not be dancing on his grave. Again, I hate cancer and Hitler.
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ZaLin
There is no doubt that Rush said some mean, nasty things over the years and everyone can/should be offended. I would not argue that point one bit. As for me, I spent a tremendous amount of time in the car for two plus decades ago and often listened to Rush. To me, he was an entertainer first and conservative talk host second. I did not agree with every word that came out of his and often cringed when he said things. I can say the same for Howard Stern who also provided hundreds of hours of entertainment to me.
Truthfully, I could not care less about the hate being thrown his way, only do not understand the level of hatred towards the man. I have zero idea if he was a good man offset, only know he was loyal and gave away a lot of money without any fanfare. He might be have been the jagoff that many believe he was and I still would not be dancing on his grave. Again, I hate cancer and Hitler.
This is a fair reasonable take. I disagree with it as I feel philanthropy amongst the Uber wealthy is a low bar but I respect the take.
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This is the crux, the root of the root. Celebrating, cheering, jumping for joy over someone’s death is indefensible and wrong. Period. No matter if he/she said bad things or, worse yet, did bad things. Even if you honestly feel (serial killer, etc.) that they deserved to die.
Okay, so you and others on this thread that are so appalled at folks in your words "celebrating, cheering, jumping for joy" over someone WHO already died, must be against the death penalty, right? Your respect, kindness, and Godliness must ensure, that we need to love and protect those that have sinned greatly while alive. But, of course, this is where y'all will say, WELL, WE ARE NATION OF MEN, AND GOD MADE MAN, AND MAN MADE LAWS, AND LOOK TO THE OLD TESTAMENT...
The amount of pearl clutching by the sweater vest, meat hangout, letter to the MUSCOOP Admin crew in this thread is high high comedy.
Keep it up y'all.
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ZaLin
There is no doubt that Rush said some mean, nasty things over the years and everyone can/should be offended. I would not argue that point one bit. As for me, I spent a tremendous amount of time in the car for two plus decades ago and often listened to Rush. To me, he was an entertainer first and conservative talk host second. I did not agree with every word that came out of his and often cringed when he said things. I can say the same for Howard Stern who also provided hundreds of hours of entertainment to me.
Truthfully, I could not care less about the hate being thrown his way, only do not understand the level of hatred towards the man. I have zero idea if he was a good man offset, only know he was loyal and gave away a lot of money without any fanfare. He might be have been the jagoff that many believe he was and I still would not be dancing on his grave. Again, I hate cancer and Hitler.
This is a fair way to look at it. I appreciate your thoughtfulness.
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Galway
I agree on Uber wealthy being charitable is an easy task, but also one that is not forced on anyone. I always believe giving time is harder than writing a check and I point that out to be people I know who let it be known they write checks. That said, many Uber wealthy give above what is needed and do so without fanfare. I will never criticize someone for spreading the wealth.
reinko
You really are fixated on pointing out the sweater vest, meat summit members, why is that? Why can't people just have a difference of opinion and respect that difference of opinion. I only question the glee over Rush's death and curious on what causes one to feel that way. Again, any one that is happy he died, it does not bother me a bit. Just makes curious on why a complete stranger would cause that type of emotion from someone.
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Galway
I agree on Uber wealthy being charitable is an easy task, but also one that is not forced on anyone. I always believe giving time is harder than writing a check and I point that out to be people I know who let it be known they write checks. That said, many Uber wealthy give above what is needed and do so without fanfare. Like I will never criticize someone for spreading the wealth.
reinko
You really are fixated on pointing out the sweater vest, meat summit members, why is that? Why can't people just have a difference of opinion and respect that difference of opinion. I only question the glee over Rush's death and curious on what causes one to feel that way. Again, any one that is happy he died, it does not bother me a bit. Just makes curious on why a complete stranger would cause that type of emotion from someone.
Look to post where I celebrated this mans death. I posted twice in this thread, once with a eulogy from America’s Mayor, and my post above. My point, is if folks have such a Godliness and place of solace for those that have past (in this case Rush), then please explain a support for capital punishment, which is literally supporting killing ALIVE people.
BTW, first time caller/long time listener, thanks for taking my call, will hang up and listen.
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reinko
My comment to you was based off of your sweater vest comment. I have zero idea if you stood on your head or cried when you heard the news, nor do I really care. By the way, some on here might wish you were a first time caller.
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Look to post where I celebrated this mans death. I posted twice in this thread, once with a eulogy from America’s Mayor, and my post above. My point, is if folks have such a Godliness and place of solace for those that have past (in this case Rush), then please explain a support for capital punishment, which is literally supporting killing ALIVE people.
BTW, first time caller/long time listener, thanks for taking my call, will hang up and listen.
This meat eater is against the death penalty. That's Catholic doctrine. Make some more sweeping generalizations.
I seriously doubt that a lot of you fools even personally know a conservative (besides "that uncle that you don't talk to anymore".)
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I'm not celebrating his death. But conservatives love to hide behind the line of "why do you need to hate someone if you don't agree with their politics?" The hate for Limbaugh has nothing to do with his politics. It has to do with being a horrible human being.
I don't recall a thread "celebrating" the death of John McCain on Scoop in 2018. Maybe it has nothing to do with political party.
But yeah. Let's compare Limbaugh to RBG some more.
Nuance, humor, and sarcasm are completely lost on you.
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ZaLin
There is no doubt that Rush said some mean, nasty things over the years and everyone can/should be offended. I would not argue that point one bit. As for me, I spent a tremendous amount of time in the car for two plus decades ago and often listened to Rush. To me, he was an entertainer first and conservative talk host second. I did not agree with every word that came out of his and often cringed when he said things. I can say the same for Howard Stern who also provided hundreds of hours of entertainment to me.
Truthfully, I could not care less about the hate being thrown his way, only do not understand the level of hatred towards the man. I have zero idea if he was a good man offset, only know he was loyal and gave away a lot of money without any fanfare. He might be have been the jagoff that many believe he was and I still would not be dancing on his grave. Again, I hate cancer and Hitler.
Maybe Rush bought insult offsets with his charity.
You know, like the liberal climate savers do with their "carbon offsets", that allows them to fly in private jets to global warming symposia.
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Nuance, humor, and sarcasm are completely lost on you.
Shocking you’d say the quotes posted in this forum are “nuance, humor, and sarcasm.” And we wonder why we have protests in this country.
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I was happy when Osama bin Laden got got.
Defensible and right.
It was right and necessary that he was taken out. But just because you recognized that something awful (taking someone’s life) has to be done doesn’t mean it should be a cause for glee.
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Shocking you’d say the quotes posted in this forum are “nuance, humor, and sarcasm.” And we wonder why we have protests in this country.
You dumbass, the only RBG reference in this thread was my link to a tweet about Rs and Ds and death. A joke.
Lighten up, Cameron. When is the diamond ready?
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You dumbass, the only RBG reference in this thread was my link to a tweet about Rs and Ds and death. A joke.
Lighten up, Cameron. When is the diamond ready?
You dumbass. No it wasn't. I didn’t even read your hilarious, nuanced Tweet.
This is who liberals are. Compare the reaction on Twitter to when Rush (or any conservative...say, Scalia) dies vs someone like RBG. The unhinged, hateful vitriol is far worse from the Left. They take glee in the death of conservatives. Just look at the posters here.
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Okay, so you and others on this thread that are so appalled at folks in your words "celebrating, cheering, jumping for joy" over someone WHO already died, must be against the death penalty, right? Your respect, kindness, and Godliness must ensure, that we need to love and protect those that have sinned greatly while alive. But, of course, this is where y'all will say, WELL, WE ARE NATION OF MEN, AND GOD MADE MAN, AND MAN MADE LAWS, AND LOOK TO THE OLD TESTAMENT...
The amount of pearl clutching by the sweater vest, meat hangout, letter to the MUSCOOP Admin crew in this thread is high high comedy.
Keep it up y'all.
Reinko
1 Not my words that they’re gleeful he’s dead - theirs.
2. I have always opposed the death penalty.
3. I like meat, and have enjoyed a meal with several Scoopers. But I don’t own a sweater vest.
4. You’re entitled to your opinions, and if you want to hate fellow Scoopers because of what you think they eat, wear or feel about various political/moral issues, by all means go ahead.
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Maybe Rush bought insult offsets with his charity.
You know, like the liberal climate savers do with their "carbon offsets", that allows them to fly in private jets to global warming symposia.
Because those things are definitely related. Where here was anyone asked to denounce the hypocrisy of the elite and carbon emissions? I certainly don't think that is a good thing, and it bugs me that they aren't held more accountable for it. But we certainly were not talking about that.
Alright now your turn. Is it bad to celebrate people dying from AIDs? Is it bad to dog whistle and spew hurtful racial stereotypes to audiences of millions? Is it bad to imply that all gay people will try and assault you if you aren't careful? Try not pulling bad faith whataboutism buddy.
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Alright now your turn. Is it bad to celebrate people dying from AIDs?
Yes. It’s bad to celebrate people dying from AIDs, cancer or even lethal injection. And “I thought the guy was an a$$hole” doesn’t change that at all.
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Because those things are definitely related. Where here was anyone asked to denounce the hypocrisy of the elite and carbon emissions? I certainly don't think that is a good thing, and it bugs me that they aren't held more accountable for it. But we certainly were not talking about that.
Alright now your turn. Is it bad to celebrate people dying from AIDs? Is it bad to dog whistle and spew hurtful racial stereotypes to audiences of millions? Is it bad to imply that all gay people will try and assault you if you aren't careful? Try not pulling bad faith whataboutism buddy.
I'm not your buddy, pal.
I see you went to the Wades school of literal interpretation. ::)
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Missing the point as always.
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As a general rule I don't mourn, or cheer famous peoples death. They are just people I never knew.
But, I think context is important when discussing/criticizing how people react to Limbaugh's death. Remember this was the man that said after Jerry Garcia died:
"Just another dead doper, and a dirt bag."
With that said, the people my heart goes out to is his family. Regardless of who a person is in public life, in private life they have family who love them and are heartbroken by their loss.
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Can we change the topic?! Since we are dissecting old comments made callously about a legendary rocker....made in cruel jest before a cynical man suffered and maybe came to some understanding of greater truths...Let’s talk some other legendary rockers....RUSH, the band.
A regular at a local bar I frequent recently started playing Temple of Syrinx nightly on the jukebox. I had forgotten that group and that tune. Talk about a band being ahead of its time! It’s like Rush predicted Orwellian Facebook, Google, YouTube, and Twitter in the early 70s. It’s like “the meek shall inherit the Earth” is the last line of defense against the BigTech/RedStar verses to come.
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All those bad things that were said? Of course they weren't serious. They were jokes! Duh!
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It's okay to be happy when bad people die. I know what upsets you is that this was one of 'yours', and maybe you don't feel that he was bad.
But if I placed his quotes in a list for you guys, and didn't say who said these things, you'd probably say he was a bad guy.
His takes on race are on the level of David Duke... who many won't mourn the day he dies. Because he, too, is a bad person.
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I would suggest that many of us in this room need to go back and read Matthew, Chapter 5, verse 39.
Look at it real closely and then reflect on what's been posted in this room.
Doesn't matter whether you are liberal or conservative. Just read it and contemplate it.
Hopefully, it changes the dialogue a bit.
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It's okay to be happy when bad people die. I know what upsets you is that this was one of 'yours', and maybe you don't feel that he was bad.
I hope this is supposed to be in teal. So cynical, mean spirited and fundamentally wrong.
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Lenny
Sadly, no teal from Hards.
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No, no teal from me. My emotions are as valid as yours. I'm happy that a bad person can no longer cause pain and hurt to others.
Personally, I think it's much more morally contemptible to defend bad people who continually hurt others and show now remorse for hurting others. The world is a far better place without Rush.
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I would suggest that many of us in this room need to go back and read Matthew, Chapter 5, verse 39.
Look at it real closely and then reflect on what's been posted in this room.
Doesn't matter whether you are liberal or conservative. Just read it and contemplate it.
Hopefully, it changes the dialogue a bit.
There's a big difference between celebrating, revenge, retaliation, and simply, objectively, stating someone's decades long public record in an emotionless way.
Stating Limbaugh's record, behavior, etc...from a public standpoint matters because of all of the terrible things he said and did. Words matter. Actions matter. It's not a matter of political differences.
I don't see many people that are taking your type of stance here, also, acknowledging specifically all of the terrible things that he said and did and was in his public life. Feel free to add positive things, while also including the many hateful things too.
I will give you a quick example among many. Being racist isn't a political difference.
Rush Limbaugh the public figure, was racist. Many people enabled, condoned, and supported his racist views, behavior, and actions. This caused a lot or harm to a lot of people. See, it's pretty easy to include that, and essential to include that among the countless other things.
I have no celebration, I have no other thoughts other than his longstanding public record, which is as awful as it gets.
It's not okay to explain this away as a shock jock. It's not okay to explain it away that he made money and achieved power from it. It's not okay to say something about his personal life to explain it away.
If someone approached me with thought about his death, I would say, I didn't know him personally. But I would add matter of factly, that for decades publicly, he was hateful, cruel, racist, xenophobic, knowingly spread lies, homoohobic, mysogistic, mocked disabled people, and on and on every day. You are what your record says you are. And he left a lot of damage out there.
No retaliation. No revenge. No revisionist history either. It isn't for every person of a different political view. It isn't about politics. Just matter of factly stating his public record for decades.
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No, no teal from me. My emotions are as valid as yours. I'm happy that a bad person can no longer cause pain and hurt to others.
Personally, I think it's much more morally contemptible to defend bad people who continually hurt others and show now remorse for hurting others. The world is a far better place without Rush.
The facts don’t care about your feelings crowd are twisting in the wind
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I mean, the Venn diagram of the pearl clutchers who are going on about how awful it is that people are celebrating Rush's death, and those who voted for a candidate who engaged in the morally reprehensible family separation immigration policy are pretty much overlapping circles.
So maybe people need to just need to work on being better themselves, and not so concerned with what others are doing.
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It was right and necessary that he was taken out. But just because you recognized that something awful (taking someone’s life) has to be done doesn’t mean it should be a cause for glee.
OBL was a mass murderer who, had he not been killed, would have continued to plan, incite and bankroll the murder of countless others.
His death was cause for glee.
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I mean, the Venn diagram of the pearl clutchers who are going on about how awful it is that people are celebrating Rush's death, and those who voted for a candidate who engaged in the morally reprehensible family separation immigration policy are pretty much overlapping circles.
So maybe people need to just need to work on being better themselves, and not so concerned with what others are doing.
Many of the people tsk tsking others for not properly mourning the death of El Rushbo seem to be the same ones who choke on the words "black lives matter" and love to mention that George Floyd had a criminal record or Breonna Taylor once dated a drug dealer.
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Many of the people tsk tsking others for not properly mourning the death of El Rushbo seem to be the same ones who choke on the words "black lives matter" and love to mention that George Floyd had a criminal record or Breonna Taylor once dated a drug dealer.
Yep.
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No, no teal from me. My emotions are as valid as yours. I'm happy that a bad person can no longer cause pain and hurt to others.
Personally, I think it's much more morally contemptible to defend bad people who continually hurt others and show now remorse for hurting others. The world is a far better place without Rush.
"bad people"?? morally contemptible?? so by your shallow definition, pretty much anyone who dies i'm sure had hurt someone in their lives...this could essentially cover just about everyone. so so lazy thinking. you aren't as astute and philosophically as important as you think...how about we just reel it in father hards and learn to love and forgive and leave alone. i'm not saying you need to love jeff dahmer and adolph hitler, just reel it in. oh the hurt and the pain rush has delivered?? give me a break.
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/bo-snerdley-second-generation-founding-father-limbaugh-returned-his-talent-to-god
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"bad people"?? morally contemptible?? so by your shallow definition, pretty much anyone who dies i'm sure had hurt someone in their lives...this could essentially cover just about everyone. so so lazy thinking. you aren't as astute and philosophically as important as you think...how about we just reel it in father hards and learn to love and forgive and leave alone. i'm not saying you need to love jeff dahmer and adolph hitler, just reel it in. oh the hurt and the pain rush has delivered?? give me a break.
You ever hear the saying that it is better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you're stupid rather than to open it and remove all doubt?
I know I rustle your jimmies all day, every day, but I can't imagine the mental back flips you have to perform on a daily basis just to get through the day without your head exploding.
Let's just be clear. I don't value your opinion. At least with some of these other guys, they make coherent arguments, and I can respect their thought process and disagree with them. You just ramble on like its your fifth drink at the bar and then expect me to take you seriously. I understand more and more everyday the person you are, and the alternative reality you must live in. Best of luck.
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i have listened to rush for 30 years and never realized that bo snerdley was black?? it didn't matter, as it shouldn't, but did anyone tell that racist rush this too?
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i have listened to rush for 30 years
Shocking.
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i have listened to rush for 30 years and never realized that bo snerdley was black?? it didn't matter, as it shouldn't, but did anyone tell that racist rush this too?
I was shocked to see that. I had no idea.
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i have listened to rush for 30 years and never realized that bo snerdley was black?? it didn't matter, as it shouldn't, but did anyone tell that racist rush this too?
This is a great self-own
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You ever hear the saying that it is better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you're stupid rather than to open it and remove all doubt?
I know I rustle your jimmies all day, every day, but I can't imagine the mental back flips you have to perform on a daily basis just to get through the day without your head exploding.
Let's just be clear. I don't value your opinion. At least with some of these other guys, they make coherent arguments, and I can respect their thought process and disagree with them. You just ramble on like its your fifth drink at the bar and then expect me to take you seriously. I understand more and more everyday the person you are, and the alternative reality you must live in. Best of luck.
you really are full of yourself? please don't give yourself so much credit, but thank you for validating my viewpoints. you had to be one of those "front row' brown noser's we in the backrow would throw spitballs at...us mean spirited, morally vacuous ones
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Yup. Cannot be racist if you work with a black person.
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i have listened to rush for 30 years and never realized that bo snerdley was black?? it didn't matter, as it shouldn't, but did anyone tell that racist rush this too?
"I can't be racist... I hired a black guy to work for me" is the even lamer version of "I can't be racist... I have a black friend."
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you really are full of yourself? please don't give yourself so much credit, but thank you for validating my viewpoints. you had to be one of those "front row' brown noser's we in the backrow would throw spitballs at...us mean spirited, morally vacuous ones
Do I seem like the kid that sat in the front row? lmao.
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I mean, the Venn diagram of the pearl clutchers who are going on about how awful it is that people are celebrating Rush's death, and those who voted for a candidate who engaged in the morally reprehensible family separation immigration policy are pretty much overlapping circles.
So maybe people need to just need to work on being better themselves, and not so concerned with what others are doing.
Celebrating death is indefensible.
Making false equivalencies and violating your own edict from paragraph 2 in paragraph 1 is ironic. But I guess it’s OK for the enlightened to be concerned about what others are doing.
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Yup. Cannot be racist if you work with a black person.
Definitely a proven fact
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Celebrating death is indefensible.
Making false equivalencies and violating your own edict from paragraph 2 in paragraph 1 is ironic. But I guess it’s OK for the enlightened to be concerned about what others are doing.
You probably should have a better understanding of what "false equivalence" means.
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There's a big difference between celebrating, revenge, retaliation, and simply, objectively, stating someone's decades long public record in an emotionless way.
Stating Limbaugh's record, behavior, etc...from a public standpoint matters because of all of the terrible things he said and did. Words matter. Actions matter. It's not a matter of political differences.
I don't see many people that are taking your type of stance here, also, acknowledging specifically all of the terrible things that he said and did and was in his public life. Feel free to add positive things, while also including the many hateful things too.
I will give you a quick example among many. Being racist isn't a political difference.
Rush Limbaugh the public figure, was racist. Many people enabled, condoned, and supported his racist views, behavior, and actions. This caused a lot or harm to a lot of people. See, it's pretty easy to include that, and essential to include that among the countless other things.
I have no celebration, I have no other thoughts other than his longstanding public record, which is as awful as it gets.
It's not okay to explain this away as a shock jock. It's not okay to explain it away that he made money and achieved power from it. It's not okay to say something about his personal life to explain it away.
If someone approached me with thought about his death, I would say, I didn't know him personally. But I would add matter of factly, that for decades publicly, he was hateful, cruel, racist, xenophobic, knowingly spread lies, homoohobic, mysogistic, mocked disabled people, and on and on every day. You are what your record says you are. And he left a lot of damage out there.
No retaliation. No revenge. No revisionist history either. It isn't for every person of a different political view. It isn't about politics. Just matter of factly stating his public record for decades.
Well said. IMHO, the best post in this thread.
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Well said. IMHO, the best post in this thread.
Appreciated.
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Well said. IMHO, the best post in this thread.
Seconded, very well stated.
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My main issue with Limbaugh is how he helped move the discourse in this country. It's no surprise that his star rose after the Fairness Doctrine was wrongly done away with.
Limbaugh's racism, misogyny, and homophobia helped make those beliefs mainstream and acceptable to a large part of society. It helped pave the way for the Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro types that push those same hateful narratives today. And Limbaugh made it okay for people to consume those beliefs and continue to push them out into society today.
He also made it more possible for the Olbermann and Maddow types that push the further agendas of the left, which helps to insulate both sides from ever hearing each other.
Limbaugh helped make our country a worse place, a more divisive place, and a nation that simply does not work as designed. He helped push our political poles further apart so we aren't even capable of talking to each other anymore. He's one of the worst Americans in the history of this country. If you have any family members you can't talk to because of politics, regardless of party, thank Rush, because he unquestionably pushed us further apart than we ever were before.
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Celebrating death is indefensible.
Making false equivalencies and violating your own edict from paragraph 2 in paragraph 1 is ironic. But I guess it’s OK for the enlightened to be concerned about what others are doing.
I didn't celebrate his death. I just said the world is a brighter place now.
I didn't hope for Jeffrey Dahmer to get murdered in prison, but I didn't care that it happened. That made the world a brighter place as well. The deaths of Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. also made the world a brighter place. When bad people leave this earth, life is better for everyone.
Sadly, when these people die, the cockroaches crawl out to the light to fill the void.
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Seconded, very well stated.
Thank you.
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I did just hear a pretty funny line:
"Rush Limbaugh is now making atheists want to believe in hell."
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https://www.instagram.com/linking/fundraiser?fundraiser_id=216564883501290
Over $500K donated to Planned Parenthood in memory of Rush.
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Yup. Cannot be racist if you work with a black person.
and yet "How to be an Anti-Racist" grifter, er, author, Ibrham X Kendi says otherwise (and is proof of it himself). In fact, he calls the idea racist.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/22/us/kendi-book-anti-racist-blake/index.html
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My main issue with Limbaugh is how he helped move the discourse in this country. It's no surprise that his star rose after the Fairness Doctrine was wrongly done away with.
Limbaugh's racism, misogyny, and homophobia helped make those beliefs mainstream and acceptable to a large part of society. It helped pave the way for the Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro types that push those same hateful narratives today. And Limbaugh made it okay for people to consume those beliefs and continue to push them out into society today.
He also made it more possible for the Olbermann and Maddow types that push the further agendas of the left, which helps to insulate both sides from ever hearing each other.
Limbaugh helped make our country a worse place, a more divisive place, and a nation that simply does not work as designed. He helped push our political poles further apart so we aren't even capable of talking to each other anymore. He's one of the worst Americans in the history of this country. If you have any family members you can't talk to because of politics, regardless of party, thank Rush, because he unquestionably pushed us further apart than we ever were before.
I agree with everything in your post BUT......I read this as putting Maddow on the same 'hateful narrative' level as Carlsen/Hannity/Shapiro/etc. Olbermann? I get that 100% but I don't get putting Maddow in this club. Ardently liberal? Yep, but I've not seen her push hate.
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I agree with everything in your post BUT......I read this as putting Maddow on the same 'hateful narrative' level as Carlsen/Hannity/Shapiro/etc. Olbermann? I get that 100% but I don't get putting Maddow in this club. Ardently liberal? Yep, but I've not seen her push hate.
so pushing a false narrative for 3 years is love?
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so pushing a false narrative for 3 years is love?
by now you've got to know you need to be more specific, right? like specific examples with details, non 80's drug references, etc.
And please tell me you are not going to say the words "russian hoax"
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I agree with everything in your post BUT......I read this as putting Maddow on the same 'hateful narrative' level as Carlsen/Hannity/Shapiro/etc. Olbermann? I get that 100% but I don't get putting Maddow in this club. Ardently liberal? Yep, but I've not seen her push hate.
That's why I put her and Keith in a different paragraph. I don't think Maddow pushes hate, but I do think her firm ideological push tends to be more insulatory for the left and doesn't encourage discussion because instead of debate, it's more just pointing at all the reasons the Right is wrong.
With leftist ideals myself, I usually agree with her, but her arguments aren't the kind I can use to have discussions with those across the aisle unless I just want the rhetorical fight.
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That's why I put her and Keith in a different paragraph. I don't think Maddow pushes hate, but I do think her firm ideological push tends to be more insulatory for the left and doesn't encourage discussion because instead of debate, it's more just pointing at all the reasons the Right is wrong.
With leftist ideals myself, I usually agree with her, but her arguments aren't the kind I can use to have discussions with those across the aisle unless I just want the rhetorical fight.
That makes complete sense.
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by now you've got to know you need to be more specific, right? like specific examples with details, non 80's drug references, etc.
And please tell me you are not going to say the words "russian hoax"
great! that's like saying i slept with nin agdal with our clothes on.
ok, she pounded the FISA abuses aren't abuses and carried water for the schiff show and eric( she probably did) swallow. they had mounds of concrete evidence of russian disinformation we never saw. not even the golden shower parties. talk about getting all geeked up then...
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rocket, is it really a mystery to you why no one takes you seriously?
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great! that's like saying i slept with nin agdal with our clothes on.
ok, she pounded the FISA abuses aren't abuses and carried water for the schiff show and eric( she probably did) swallow. they had mounds of concrete evidence of russian disinformation we never saw. not even the golden shower parties. talk about getting all geeked up then...
Solid drop, Monte. That Marquette education paid off
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rocket, is it really a mystery to you why no one takes you seriously?
people who do take you seriously sully, scare the F**k out of me.
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people who do take you seriously sully, scare the F**k out of me.
That tracks, since you're scared of everything you don't understand, and you don't care to educate yourself outside of echo chamber.
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That tracks, since you're scared of everything you don't understand, and you don't care to educate yourself outside of echo chamber.
Yeah, you got me down hardy...my path has taken me thru 3rd shift pipe manufacturer, bartender, bar manager, apartment complex manager, bio major to dds 36 years, married 38 years, 2 grown successful boys...I’ve lived a lot more than you need to know and past the point of dumbing myself down I believe my path has taken me a little further than an Uber driver
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That's why I put her and Keith in a different paragraph. I don't think Maddow pushes hate, but I do think her firm ideological push tends to be more insulatory for the left and doesn't encourage discussion because instead of debate, it's more just pointing at all the reasons the Right is wrong.
With leftist ideals myself, I usually agree with her, but her arguments aren't the kind I can use to have discussions with those across the aisle unless I just want the rhetorical fight.
My main problem with Maddow is that I don't like being lectured. Although I found her to be very intelligent, I stopped watching her many years ago because sometimes it felt like an hour of tsk-tsking and finger-wagging. Same was true of Chris Hayes.
Horse beaten ... and then beaten again ... and again ... and again.
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I go through phases of watching cable news. Right now, I am in a 8 month phase of not watching.
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people who do take you seriously sully, scare the F**k out of me.
Good.
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Yeah, you got me down hardy...my path has taken me thru 3rd shift pipe manufacturer, bartender, bar manager, apartment complex manager, bio major to dds 36 years, married 38 years, 2 grown successful boys...I’ve lived a lot more than you need to know and past the point of dumbing myself down I believe my path has taken me a little further than an Uber driver
Thanks for the CV that no one asked for. You must be so very proud of your accomplishments!
And for the record, you're easier to read than The Cat in the Hat.
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My main problem with Maddow is that I don't like being lectured. Although I found her to be very intelligent, I stopped watching her many years ago because sometimes it felt like an hour of tsk-tsking and finger-wagging. Same was true of Chris Hayes.
Horse beaten ... and then beaten again ... and again ... and again.
Because it's TV that is designed for people who want their beliefs affirmed on a daily basis. It's a really weird drug that humans become addicted to all to easily.
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Because it's TV that is designed for people who want their beliefs affirmed on a daily basis. It's a really weird drug that humans become addicted to all to easily.
I'm a hopeless newspaper addict, so that's where I get the vast majority of my news. Subscribe to NYT, WSJ, WaPo, Charlotte Observer and The Athletic. I do go to YouTube occasionally and check out clips of the news shows if something looks interesting, so I do sometimes see clips from MSNBC, Fox News and CNN, as well as major press conferences. I like a little humor with my news, too, so I watch Bill Maher and John Oliver when they're on.
But yeah, I don't get folks who just sit there and let themselves be hypnotized by MSNBC or Fox News. I guess it's exactly what you say about affirming their beliefs.
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I'm a hopeless newspaper addict, so that's where I get the vast majority of my news. Subscribe to NYT, WSJ, WaPo, Charlotte Observer and The Athletic. I do go to YouTube occasionally and check out clips of the news shows if something looks interesting, so I do sometimes see clips from MSNBC, Fox News and CNN, as well as major press conferences. I like a little humor with my news, too, so I watch Bill Maher and John Oliver when they're on.
But yeah, I don't get folks who just sit there and let themselves be hypnotized by MSNBC or Fox News. I guess it's exactly what you say about affirming their beliefs.
You would be a more well rounded person if you subscribed to the NY Post. Check out Page 6, and you will be able to keep up with all the gossip.
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You would be a more well rounded person if you subscribed to the NY Post. Check out Page 6, and you will be able to keep up with all the gossip.
Don't forget the National Enquirer while you're at it.
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Don't forget the National Enquirer while you're at it.
The National Enquirer spiked a lot of Trump stories to protect him.
Sad! Fake news!
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You would be a more well rounded person if you subscribed to the NY Post. Check out Page 6, and you will be able to keep up with all the gossip.
Any time I see a story originated in the post, I get skeptical.
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That's why I put her and Keith in a different paragraph. I don't think Maddow pushes hate, but I do think her firm ideological push tends to be more insulatory for the left and doesn't encourage discussion because instead of debate, it's more just pointing at all the reasons the Right is wrong.
With leftist ideals myself, I usually agree with her, but her arguments aren't the kind I can use to have discussions with those across the aisle unless I just want the rhetorical fight.
I agree with all this. And I have the same issue with Rschel (who I often watch) as you do.
Bill Mahre brought up a good point last week talking to Steve Schmidt last week. Schmidt was a lifelong republican who ran McCain's campaign. Because of Trump, he is now a registered Dem. But, speaking of Steve's views, Bill said he thinks Steve is only on MSNBC to talk about certain things that fit in with what they want to get across. They never have him on to talk about tax policy, regulation, immigration, etc. I thought that was a valid point.
We run the gamut from far left to very centrist. It's important to get all those views.
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I agree with all this. And I have the same issue with Rschel (who I often watch) as you do.
Bill Mahre brought up a good point last week talking to Steve Schmidt last week. Schmidt was a lifelong republican who ran McCain's campaign. Because of Trump, he is now a registered Dem. But, speaking of Steve's views, Bill said he thinks Steve is only on MSNBC to talk about certain things that fit in with what they want to get across. They never have him on to talk about tax policy, regulation, immigration, etc. I thought that was a valid point.
We run the gamut from far left to very centrist. It's important to get all those views.
Conservatives hate Maher, Progressives hate Maher. He’s doing something right.
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My main problem with Maddow is that I don't like being lectured. Although I found her to be very intelligent, I stopped watching her many years ago because sometimes it felt like an hour of tsk-tsking and finger-wagging. Same was true of Chris Hayes.
Horse beaten ... and then beaten again ... and again ... and again.
I agree with you, to a point. A daily diet of MSNBC (or Fox) isn't conducive to well-rounded knowledge. While Maddow and Hayes are very good at what they do, they are there to push a certain narrative. They are not newspeople and should never be considered that. There are times when I will turn one of them on and will stop watching within a minute or two. Other times, they show why they are good at what they do.
The good thing (?) is that you know what you are getting. They never openly lie like Fox. They don't change their opinion on a subject depending on who they are quoting. They don't change the very things they have said that they stand for depending on who is elected. The same cannot be said for most right wing media.
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Conservatives hate Maher, Progressives hate Maher. He’s doing something right.
I watch almost every week - and he is slowly turning into that "get off my lawn" guy.
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Conservatives hate Maher, Progressives hate Maher. He’s doing something right.
Meh. Maher is just a provocateur who is contrarian to whatever the prevailing wisdom of the moment may be. Not that a little provocation and contrarianism isn't good now and again, but he adds little else other than hot takes against whatever truism is being espoused.
Terrorists who attack civilian targets are cowardly? No, they're quite brave, says Bill.
We should be sensitive to others' cultures? F--- 'em, says Bill.
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Conservatives hate Maher, Progressives hate Maher. He’s doing something right.
He makes everyone uncomfortable. I don’t watch him much but I see a lot of complaining about him from both sides
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I agree with you, to a point. A daily diet of MSNBC (or Fox) isn't conducive to well-rounded knowledge. While Maddow and Hayes are very good at what they do, they are there to push a certain narrative. They are not newspeople and should never be considered that. There are times when I will turn one of them on and will stop watching within a minute or two. Other times, they show why they are good at what they do.
The good thing (?) is that you know what you are getting. They never openly lie like Fox. They don't change their opinion on a subject depending on who they are quoting. They don't change the very things they have said that they stand for depending on who is elected. The same cannot be said for most right wing media.
Which is why Fox should never be compared to MSNBC. 25-30% on Fox is utter made up or extremely misleading and the same does not apply to MSNBC.
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I didn't celebrate his death. I just said the world is a brighter place now.
I didn't hope for Jeffrey Dahmer to get murdered in prison, but I didn't care that it happened. That made the world a brighter place as well. The deaths of Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. also made the world a brighter place. When bad people leave this earth, life is better for everyone.
Sadly, when these people die, the cockroaches crawl out to the light to fill the void.
Right.....Limbaugh was exactly like Mao, Pol-Pot, Stalin, Hitler , and Assad.
I assume then that you feel the exact same way about Biden who had said more asinine and belittling comments regarding race than anyone known to man? Not to mention read a Eulogy to a former KKK liaison? And let's not forget about the 1994 crime bill. Take 5 secs and ask yourself what the media would do to a Republican candidate with Biden's track record and idiotic statements and actions the past 45+ years.
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Right.....Limbaugh was exactly like Mao, Pol-Pot, Stalin, Hitler , and Assad.
I assume then that you feel the exact same way about Biden who had said more asinine and belittling comments regarding race than anyone known to man? Not to mention read a Eulogy to a former KKK liaison? And let's not forget about the 1994 crime bill. Take 5 secs and ask yourself what the media would do to a Republican candidate with Biden's track record and idiotic statements and actions the past 45+ years.
He never said what you claimed he said in the first paragraph.
And your attempt at whataboutism in the second is hilarious.
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He never said what you claimed he said in the first paragraph.
And your attempt at whataboutism in the second is hilarious.
And your whataboutism is parroting what left leaning media does when they have absolutely no retort or won't deal with hypocrisy or basic facts. I'm not defending Rush's comments but just admit Biden has said asinine racist things for YEARS.
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Meh. Maher is just a provocateur who is contrarian to whatever the prevailing wisdom of the moment may be. Not that a little provocation and contrarianism isn't good now and again, but he adds little else other than hot takes against whatever truism is being espoused.
Terrorists who attack civilian targets are cowardly? No, they're quite brave, says Bill.
We should be sensitive to others' cultures? F--- 'em, says Bill.
Hey, you beat me to it. The reason I don't like him is that often times his guest is making a decent point, and then Bill just interrupts them with a glib joke, and then moves on to the whooping noises of the crowd.
I know his show is meant to be political entertainment, but I just think he is a doucher of the highest degree.
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Right.....Limbaugh was exactly like Mao, Pol-Pot, Stalin, Hitler , and Assad.
I assume then that you feel the exact same way about Biden who had said more asinine and belittling comments regarding race than anyone known to man? Not to mention read a Eulogy to a former KKK liaison? And let's not forget about the 1994 crime bill. Take 5 secs and ask yourself what the media would do to a Republican candidate with Biden's track record and idiotic statements and actions the past 45+ years.
They'd help him get elected to be 45th president of the United States and then rope people into watching outrage porn for four years. Make no mistake, the media LOVED Donald Trump. He made them a ghastly amount of money.
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Which is why Fox should never be compared to MSNBC. 25-30% on Fox is utter made up or extremely misleading and the same does not apply to MSNBC.
I’d argue that not covering stories that negatively reflect on the left is lying to the public and extremely misleading. And that does apply to MSNBC and CNN.
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The decline of the newspaper is ultimately responsible for the decline of American politics, possibly eventually society.
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And your whataboutism is parroting what left leaning media does when they have absolutely no retort or won't deal with hypocrisy or basic facts. I'm not defending Rush's comments but just admit Biden has said asinine racist things for YEARS.
Biden won the black vote by how much?
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Which is why Fox should never be compared to MSNBC. 25-30% on Fox is utter made up or extremely misleading and the same does not apply to MSNBC.
Source?
I love how the msdnc watchers are complete selfawarewolves.
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The decline of the newspaper is ultimately responsible for the decline of American politics, possibly eventually society.
I see no lies.
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Biden won the black vote by how much?
Right: Because if they didn't vote for him "they ain't black." Again, the amount of racist and vile things this guy has said over his career should cause as much vitriol as Limbaugh and Trump. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to the 7-Eleven to learn about Indian and Hindu culture by talking to the clerk there.
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The decline of the newspaper is ultimately responsible for the decline of American politics, possibly eventually society.
Agree 100%.
Thank goodness for the hard-working reporters and editors at the NYT, WSJ and WaPo these last 4 years.
But it's a sad state of affairs for a business who for centuries kept politicians in line. The absence of that oversight is especially glaring in small and mid-sized communities, as local journalism is practically dead.
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Right: Because if they didn't vote for him "they ain't black." Again, the amount of racist and vile things this guy has said over his career should cause as much vitriol as Limbaugh and Trump. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to the 7-Eleven to learn about Indian and Hindu culture by talking to the clerk there.
Uh no. You don't get it. If Biden indeed did all these racist and vile things, why are Black people voting for him? Either they have forgiven him OR you're exaggerating.
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You would be a more well rounded person if you subscribed to the NY Post.
In modern-day journalism circles, this is considered the greatest headline ever written.
(https://compote.slate.com/images/fcd32c3a-80cd-45c3-a736-6c50cfa167a2.jpg?width=840)
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Uh no. You don't get it. If Biden indeed did all these racist and vile things, why are Black people voting for him? Either they have forgiven him OR you're exaggerating.
So he's never said racist things or had anything to do with the 1994 crime bill? Got it. Maybe insinuating that black voters are monolithic, or should be, isn't the greatest way to elucidate whatever point you are trying to make. Yes or no? Has Biden repeatedly said idiotic and racist things? Your argument is literally analogous to saying: why did suburban women vote for Trump over Hilary if he was not in fact a woman?
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Biden has been around so long and taken so many votes and sponsored so much legislation that he has participated at some time in something that offended everybody.
Biden was dead in the water. The African American voters of South Carolina saved him and catapulted his campaign to front runner status. Thanks to them, he ran the table and here we are.
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So he's never said racist things or had anything to do with the 1994 crime bill? Got it. Maybe insinuating that black voters are monolithic, or should be, isn't the greatest way to elucidate whatever point you are trying to make. Yes or no? Has Biden repeatedly said idiotic and racist things? Your argument is literally analogous to saying: why did suburban women vote for Trump over Hilary if he was not in fact a woman?
Muggs, if he's only watching MSNBC or CNN he's never seen the things you're talking about. That's why I said not covering stories that are damaging to the left is lying to the public and misleading.
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So he's never said racist things or had anything to do with the 1994 crime bill? Got it. Maybe insinuating that black voters are monolithic, or should be, isn't the greatest way to elucidate whatever point you are trying to make. Yes or no? Has Biden repeatedly said idiotic and racist things? Your argument is literally analogous to saying: why did suburban women vote for Trump over Hilary if he was not in fact a woman?
Dude you are comparing Biden, a guy who clearly has said and done things he has stated he regrets, to Rush, an unrepentant piece of sh*t til the end.
If that makes you rationalize why you liked the guy, and you need that to feel good about yourself, that’s fine. But when I see the two, I see one person who grew and evolved, and another who did not.
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Dude you are comparing Biden, a guy who clearly has said and done things he has stated he regrets, to Rush, an unrepentant piece of sh*t til the end.
If that makes you rationalize why you liked the guy, and you need that to feel good about yourself, that’s fine. But when I see the two, I see one person who grew and evolved, and another who did not.
Assuming you mean that Biden is the one "who grew and evolved", then why does he continue saying racist things, including over the last year and a half?
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Scoop: Rush worked with a black man! He’s not racist!
Also Scoop: Biden is so racist!
Did Biden ever work with a black man? Maybe a black woman? Can’t recall...
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Muggs, if he's only watching MSNBC or CNN he's never seen the things you're talking about. That's why I said not covering stories that are damaging to the left is lying to the public and misleading.
Anyone only getting their news via one of the cable news channels is missing a lot.
I’m not surprised people don’t understand before TV, newspapers were left or right as well. If you didn’t read both, you didn’t get “the whole story”.
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Assuming you mean that Biden is the one "who grew and evolved", then why does he continue saying racist things, including over the last year and a half?
No. I'm making the point of hypocrisy. And you're right there is no comparison because Limbaugh was an entertainer and Biden is President and has been in public office for like 50 yrs. My point is to be philosophically consistent and rip on their words with the same venom.
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Biden is such a racist that the only Black president in history chose him as VP, that a Black congressman from South Carolina enthusiastically endorsed him (thereby saving Biden's presidential campaign), that he selected a Black woman as his running mate, that he won the presidency because Black voters overwhelmingly supported him, and that he has appointed a record number of people of color for his administration.
What a racist! If only he could be more like the noble, color-blind, open-minded Rush Limbaugh.
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Biden is such a racist that the only Black president in history chose him as VP, that a Black congressman from South Carolina enthusiastically endorsed him (thereby saving Biden's presidential campaign), that he selected a Black woman as his running mate, that he won the presidency because Black voters overwhelmingly supported him, and that he has appointed a record number of people of color for his administration.
What a racist! If only he could be more like the noble, color-blind, open-minded Rush Limbaugh.
Right. He's never said idiotic or racist things or did a Eulogy and was friends with a former KKK liaison. I stand corrected.
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Just in the last year and a half:
September 2020: "They're saying, 'Jeez, the reason I was able to stay sequestered in my home is because some Black woman was able to stack the grocery shelf,'"
May 2020: “I tell you if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black”
August 2019: “poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids.”
June 2019: "We've got to recognize that the kid wearing a hoodie may very well be the next poet laureate and not a gangbanger"
Not to mention from earlier in his career:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETn2rpuGMt8&feature=youtu.be
But move along. Nothing to see here.
Like Muggsy said, just admit the hypocrisy.
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Such a racist. Those dopey statements "prove" it. So if Black folks voted for Biden by the tens of millions, how much of a racist must his opponent have been? Or are y'all saying that Black people are too stoopid to know who the real racists are?
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No. I'm making the point of hypocrisy. And you're right there is no comparison because Limbaugh was an entertainer and Biden is President and has been in public office for like 50 yrs. My point is to be philosophically consistent and rip on their words with the same venom.
The things Biden said are terrible.
But the key difference here is that Biden has admitted the things he said are terrible, apologized and has worked to rectify it.
El Rushbo not only never apologized, but defended the awful things he said to his dying day.
Since you brought up the '94 crime bill as evidence Biden is racist, you must also believe the other 94 senators who voted for it are racist as well. That list includes Bob Dole, Trent Lott, Orrin Hatch, John McCain, Mitch McConnell, Dan Coats, John Danforth, Alan Simpson and most racist of them all, Carol Moseley-Braun.
Or maybe they're not racist at all, and just overreacted to a surge in crime with a crappy piece of legislation.
As for the eulogy ... Robert Byrd disavowed the KKK decades before his death and championed more progressive polices later in life. But if Biden is racist for speaking at his funeral, then so is Barack Obama and Mitch McConnell.
Or again, maybe you're offering a really stupid way of measuring whether someone is racist.
It seems odd you're unwilling to allow redemption for those who apologize, make amends and seek forgiveness, but defend the record of someone who does none of the above.
I wonder why.
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Just in the last year and a half:
September 2020: "They're saying, 'Jeez, the reason I was able to stay sequestered in my home is because some Black woman was able to stack the grocery shelf,'"
May 2020: “I tell you if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black”
August 2019: “poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids.”
June 2019: "We've got to recognize that the kid wearing a hoodie may very well be the next poet laureate and not a gangbanger"
Not to mention from earlier in his career:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETn2rpuGMt8&feature=youtu.be
But move along. Nothing to see here.
Like Muggsy said, just admit the hypocrisy.
Not racist.
Not racist.
Partial quote (why didn't you include the full quote?)
Not racist.
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Such a racist. Those dopey statements "prove" it. So if Black folks voted for Biden by the tens of millions, how much of a racist must his opponent have been? Or are y'all saying that Black people are too stoopid to know who the real racists are?
I respect your views MU82, but I don't think your looking at this comprehensively. First of all, WTH does Obama being black have anything to do with Biden"s comments over the years? Additionally, why are you making the assumption that specific groups think or vote solely as a monolith? And in Biden's case it's sone sort of proof that he has not said racist things? Did every homosexual vote for Buttigeg in the Dem primary? Or Jew vote for Bernie?
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The things Biden said are terrible.
But the key difference here is that Biden has admitted the things he said are terrible, apologized and has worked to rectify it.
El Rushbo not only never apologized, but defended the awful things he said to his dying day.
Since you brought up the '94 crime bill as evidence Biden is racist, you must also believe the other 94 senators who voted for it are racist as well. That list includes Bob Dole, Trent Lott, Orrin Hatch, John McCain, Mitch McConnell, Dan Coats, John Danforth, Alan Simpson and most racist of them all, Carol Moseley-Braun.
Or maybe they're not racist at all, and just overreacted to a surge in crime with a crappy piece of legislation.
As for the eulogy ... Robert Byrd disavowed the KKK decades before his death and championed more progressive polices later in life. But if Biden is racist for speaking at his funeral, then so is Barack Obama and Mitch McConnell.
Or again, maybe you're offering a really stupid way of measuring whether someone is racist.
It seems odd you're unwilling to allow redemption for those who apologize, make amends and seek forgiveness, but defend the record of someone who does none of the above.
I wonder why.
Right, because if a Republican apologized for all the stupid things Biden has said, or was a friend of a former KKK chapter leader the media would be totally cool with it. Let me be clear I'm not saying Biden is a racist , but he has uttered a myriad of statements that are dumb and prejudicial.
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Assuming you mean that Biden is the one "who grew and evolved", then why does he continue saying racist things, including over the last year and a half?
Sigh...sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Right, because if a Republican apologized for all the stupid things Biden has said, or was a friend of a former KKK chapter leader the media would be totally cool with it. Let me be clear I'm not saying Biden is a racist , but he has uttered a myriad of statements that are dumb and prejudicial.
If Biden has "said more asinine and belittling comments regarding race than anyone known to man" (your words...and absolutely absurd words at that) then how is he not a racist? Are you of the opinion that no man has ever been a racist in the history of mankind?
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I respect your views MU82, but I don't think your looking at this comprehensively. First of all, WTH does Obama being black have anything to do with Biden"s comments over the years? Additionally, why are you making the assumption that specific groups think or vote solely as a monolith? And in Biden's case it's sone sort of proof that he has not said racist things? Did every homosexual vote for Buttigeg in the Dem primary? Or Jew vote for Bernie?
Limbaugh fans, rather than admitting their guy was a horrible, racist human being, knew they couldn’t really defend the indefensible. So some tried a heaping helping of false equivalence and whataboutism.
“Biden’s a racist too!”
Well, IMHO, unlike Limbaugh’s body of work, Biden’s body of work suggests otherwise.
No, Blacks are not a “monolith” - but they did for all intents and purposes vote as a monolith in 2020. And we know who they voted for - the non-racist.
I like you Muggs, and I’m glad you’re a Scooper, but there is nothing hypocritical about calling out Limbaugh’s racism.
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Scoop: Rush worked with a black man! He’s not racist!
Also Scoop: Biden is so racist!
Did Biden ever work with a black man? Maybe a black woman? Can’t recall...
Perhaps if you had opened your mind to hear and understanding others, you would have tuned into Bo Snerdley's beautiful, heartfelt comments about Rush today on Fox News. Doubt he would have come forward had Rush been the earth's scum as you and others here want everyone to believe. Rush was brilliant, hey?
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Perhaps if you had opened your mind to hear and understanding others, you would have tuned into Bo Snerdley's beautiful, heartfelt comments about Rush today on Fox News. Doubt he would have come forward had Rush been the earth's scum as you and others here want everyone to believe. Rush was brilliant, hey?
I’ll take Rush for what he let the whole world know he was. And that certainly isn’t a great human.
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Biden has said problematic things.
Limbaugh has said problematic things.
Limbaugh's things were a lot more problematic than Bidens things.
All these statements are true.
Also, this is an impressive level of whataboutism, even for scoop
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Also, Al McGuire would have voted for Biden.... after punching Limbaugh in the face.
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Perhaps if you had opened your mind to hear and understanding others, you would have tuned into Bo Snerdley's beautiful, heartfelt comments about Rush today on Fox News. Doubt he would have come forward had Rush been the earth's scum as you and others here want everyone to believe. Rush was brilliant, hey?
No, he was a garbage human being. He said terrible things to attract an audience of dopes. He was good at it because he knew America was full of people with real hate in their hearts. He was brilliant. He was brilliant at attracting awful people. He didn’t believe in conservatism and admitted as much during the Trump era. At this point, it’s obvious the people still defending him can’t admit what an awful platform he promoted because they know how embarrassing it is.
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Also, Al McGuire would have voted for Biden.... after punching Limbaugh in the face.
Yup. Disagree about the punching Limbaugh part. He wouldn’t have wasted his time with him.
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Right. He's never said idiotic or racist things or did a Eulogy and was friends with a former KKK liaison. I stand corrected.
You are seriously trying to compare Biden speaking at Bryd's funeral, a guy that had long ago left the Klan, disavowed, and apologized for his errors, to Limbaugh's decades of unrepentant hate? Incredible false equivalency, Chicos level even.
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You are seriously trying to compare Biden speaking at Bryd's funeral, a guy that had long ago left the Klan, disavowed, and apologized for his errors, to Limbaugh's decades of unrepentant hate? Incredible false equivalency, Chicos level even.
I'm using the example to illustrate a point. I'm not grading one's racist comments vs the other. The fact is we are living in a world where Lincoln, Jefferson, and Washington's past are being scrutinized, and their statues toppled. A guy was fired for as the Sacramento Kings broadcaster after 25 yrs for saying "All Lives Matter."
Again, my whole point is about the vitriol towards Limbaugh vs others who have also said dumb and incendiary things. There a lot of scumbags out there, that's the bottom line. If people had this reaction to Clinton or Biden's death they would be banned from social media platforms and canceled completely if possible.
Limbaugh said some horrible things as did Biden, fine. But why is it when Biden or Bill Clinton kick the bucket I expect most of you and the media not to say one word about their moral behavior not to mention tweet about their douchebaggery every 5 secs?
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I'm using the example to illustrate a point. I'm not grading one's racist comments vs the other. The fact is we are living in a world where Lincoln, Jefferson, and Washington's past are being scrutinized, and their statues toppled. A guy was fired for as the Sacramento Kings broadcaster after 25 yrs for saying "All Lives Matter."
Again, my whole point is about the vitriol towards Limbaugh vs others who have also said dumb and incendiary things. There a lot of scumbags out there, that's the bottom line. If people had this reaction to Clinton or Biden's death they would be banned from social media platforms and canceled completely if possible.
Limbaugh said some horrible things as did Biden, fine. But why is it when Biden or Bill Clinton kick the bucket I expect most of you and the media not to say one word about their moral behavior not to mention tweet about their douchebaggery every 5 secs?
Bill Clinton was a bad husband and a liar. His treatment of women is and has been deplorable. There is no excuse for married men to treat their wives like Bill Clinton did.
Whataboutism isn’t the defense people think it is.
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I'm using the example to illustrate a point. I'm not grading one's racist comments vs the other. The fact is we are living in a world where Lincoln, Jefferson, and Washington's past are being scrutinized, and their statues toppled. A guy was fired for as the Sacramento Kings broadcaster after 25 yrs for saying "All Lives Matter."
Again, my whole point is about the vitriol towards Limbaugh vs others who have also said dumb and incendiary things. There a lot of scumbags out there, that's the bottom line. If people had this reaction to Clinton or Biden's death they would be banned from social media platforms and canceled completely if possible.
Limbaugh said some horrible things as did Biden, fine. But why is it when Biden or Bill Clinton kick the bucket I expect most of you and the media not to say one word about their moral behavior not to mention tweet about their douchebaggery every 5 secs?
Please find me one example of someone who has been banned from social media for saying a certain democrat was a bad human being.
For a bunch of people who like to throw terms like “snowflake” around, conservatives sure do love playing the victim card.
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Please find me one example of someone who has been banned from social media for saying a certain democrat was a bad human being.
For a bunch of people who like to throw terms like “snowflake” around, conservatives sure do love playing the victim card.
I think it goes well beyond saying he was a bad human being but I don't understand the obsession with this at all. When Clinton and Biden die I have no interest going on social media and exclaming how morally horrible they were.
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I'm using the example to illustrate a point. I'm not grading one's racist comments vs the other. The fact is we are living in a world where Lincoln, Jefferson, and Washington's past are being scrutinized, and their statues toppled. A guy was fired for as the Sacramento Kings broadcaster after 25 yrs for saying "All Lives Matter."
Again, my whole point is about the vitriol towards Limbaugh vs others who have also said dumb and incendiary things. There a lot of scumbags out there, that's the bottom line. If people had this reaction to Clinton or Biden's death they would be banned from social media platforms and canceled completely if possible.
Limbaugh said some horrible things as did Biden, fine. But why is it when Biden or Bill Clinton kick the bucket I expect most of you and the media not to say one word about their moral behavior not to mention tweet about their douchebaggery every 5 secs?
If you’re going to bring this intellectual lightweight bullsh*t here (duh mediah iz BIASED and social media CANCELS conservatives!!!) go back to Dodds’s board and hang with dimwits over there.
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If you’re going to bring this intellectual lightweight bullsh*t here (duh mediah iz BIASED and social media CANCELS conservatives!!!) go back to Dodds’s board and hang with dimwits over there.
Stick with Scoop Muggsy. Many of us like your opinions.
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Why don't you just admit there is hypocrisy with regards to this subject? Will you have the passion over how much over of a fkbag Bill Clinton was when he dies like you do Rush Limbaugh? Your're more upset with me pointing out the hypocrisy than you are with scumbags like Epstein. Don't you think Clinton and Trump should be investigated in the Epstein matter?
If you’re going to bring this intellectual lightweight bullsh*t here (duh mediah iz BIASED and social media CANCELS conservatives!!!) go back to Dodds’s board and hang with dimwits over there.
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Why don't you just admit there is hypocrisy with regards to this subject? Will you have the passion over how much over of a fkbag Bill Clinton was when he dies like you do Rush Limbaugh? Your more upset with me pointing out the hypocrisy than you are with scumbags like Epstein. Don't you think Clinton and Trump should be investigated in the Epstein matter?
I’m not upset with you Muggs. Because I know the supposed “hypocrisy” exists only in your mind. The truth is pretty obvious, and you are making false equivalencies to make yourself feel better.
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Why don't you just admit there is hypocrisy with regards to this subject? Will you have the passion over how much over of a fkbag Bill Clinton was when he dies like you do Rush Limbaugh? Your're more upset with me pointing out the hypocrisy than you are with scumbags like Epstein. Don't you think Clinton and Trump should be investigated in the Epstein matter?
That’s some good whataboutism to deflect from the fact Rush Limbaugh was a trash human being who did far more harm than good. If it makes you feel good, go for it. As they say, facts don’t care about your feelings
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That’s some good whataboutism to deflect from the fact Rush Limbaugh was a trash human being who did far more harm than good. If it makes you feel good, go for it. As they say, facts don’t care about your feelings
Yep yep. Pretty soon he’ll be bring up something Adlai Stevenson said in high school or something.
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Stick with Scoop Muggsy. Many of us like your opinions.
Yep.
Maybe we should have a push up contest.
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I’m not upset with you Muggs. Because I know the supposed “hypocrisy” exists only in your mind. The truth is pretty obvious, and you are making false equivalencies to make yourself feel better.
There's total hypocrisy on both sides. Maybe this is a better example FBM:
The Dem media basically labeled Trump as a murderer for his COVID-19 polices.
Right leaning media almost never criticized him about anything COVID related.
Now that this Cuomo nursing home story is coming out Fox and the right have called him a murderer while at the same time Left leaning media has done everything possible not to report the story..
There is constant hypocrisy on both sides on subject, after subject, after subject. There is no analysis, on any event or subject, other than doing everything humanly possible to support your political agenda and ideology.
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There's total hypocrisy on both sides. Maybe this is a better example FBM:
The Dem media basically labeled Trump as a murderer for his COVID-19 polices.
Right leaning media almost never criticized him about anything COVID related.
Now that this Cuomo nursing home story is coming out Fox and the right have called him a murderer while at the same time Left leaning media has done everything possible not to report the story..
There is constant hypocrisy on both sides on subject, after subject, after subject. There is no analysis, on any event or subject, other than doing everything humanly possible to support your political agenda and ideology.
None of that changes the fact Rush Limbaugh was a bad person
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Like the King of Pop. ;)
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I'm not grading one's racist comments vs the other.
I think this is where you are running into trouble Mugsy. Grade of racism matters. Limbaugh's comments were far worse than any of the comparisons you have tried to make. This makes him more worthy of vitriol. Not only that but that the racism is THE thing Limbaugh was known for. Washington, Lincoln, Biden, were known for a lot of other accomplishments besides racism.
The fact is we are living in a world where Lincoln, Jefferson, and Washington's past are being scrutinized, and their statues toppled.
Honest question, have any statues of Lincoln, Jefferson, and Washington actually been toppled? I've heard a lot of people worry that they will be toppled but can't think of an example where it actually happened. Jefferson I could theoretically believe (wouldn't agree with) but Washington and Lincoln would be crazy.
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There's total hypocrisy on both sides.
Lol. Ok. So now it’s BOTH SIDES.
So what exactly is the point?
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Lol. Ok. So now it’s BOTH SIDES.
So what exactly is the point?
That the overall venom and hatred towards Limbaugh from the Left is completely hypocritical and has to do with his politics.
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I think it goes well beyond saying he was a bad human being but I don't understand the obsession with this at all. When Clinton and Biden die I have no interest going on social media and exclaming how morally horrible they were.
Your equating Biden's statements with those of Limbaugh is disingenuous at best, and frankly absurd. Here is the difference. Limbaugh was a lifelong racist who peddled in hate. He made his living spreading hate and causing division. As I said, that doesn't change the fact that he has family that is mourning, and I care for them.
Now, let's look at Biden's "questionable" statements. Most are examples of him equating being poor, or being from rough backgrounds as synonymous with being a minority. While prejudicial, on its own it is not hateful.
Now, lets go beyond the initial "prejudicial" statements. They all come in the context of him recognizing historic disadvantages our nation's racist actions have placed upon people of color, and also in the context of him spending a lifetime trying to pass legislation that would help people who were historically ill-treated, and repressed because of the color of their skin.
Even bills like the 1994 crime act, that did hurt minorities in the end, was passed with good intentions. An honest examination of the bill would show anyone who actually cares to think, that it was people downstream who used the language of the bill in ways he/they did not intend. He has even apologized for it. Sometimes bills do not end up doing what was intended.
In the words of Lindsey Graham "Joe Biden is as good a man as god ever created."
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That the overall venom and hatred towards Limbaugh from the Left is completely hypocritical and has to do with his politics.
So no one can have a negative opinion of Rush unless they're on the Right already?
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So no one can have a negative opinion of Rush unless they're on the Right already?
Not at all. I make a distinction between a negative opinion and some of the outrage. But whatever.
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Not at all. I make a distinction between a negative opinion and some of the outrage. But whatever.
But that's not what you just said
And that's also not the position you've been purporting
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But that's not what you just said
And that's also not the position you've been purporting
Everyone is entitled to an opinion I was just pointing out the hypocrisy by citing various examples.
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People like Rush Limbaugh count on The Tribe to make their money, to increase their power, to enable and condone without accountability. All of the vile hateful words and actions don't matter to the tribe. Tribe gonna Tribe:
"Lacking trust in themselves this person deals with the passion of fear and its related anxiety by relying on abstract reason or a specific ideology as an impersonal frame of reference. They find safety by relying on authorities."
"In coping with anxiety, this person consults the guidelines associated with whatever authority they adhere to. They focus on knowing what the benchmark is and on obeying the rules of the game. They feel a need to know all the points of reference-what the party line is, who the good guys are, and who the bad guys are."
"They fear the disapproval of authorities and believe the way to be safe is to do the right thing as determined by an authority. And knowing what the right thing is means having clear rules that tell you how you should think and act. This orientation has the effect of developing the philosophical mind, because when you don't know how you should live-when you don't trust your intuition or your human sense of life to guide you-you have to become very intellectual. But this sense of duty also becomes a way to structure your life: someone gives you the rules, and you follow them."
"They look for a good authority in life as a way of finding security. Total submission and obedience to authority (and the rules associated with authority) helps them feel safe in the world. Choosing the wrong authority can be a problem. Instead of believing in the person who is right, they tend to believe in people who speak as if they were right, and who have the special gift of making themselves believed."
"It is someone who, in defense against the insecurity associated with not being sure, becomes too sure. They can-in the extreme-become "true believers" or fanatics."
"This is a character who holds tight to ideologies and a particular view of things as a way of feeling safe."
"They have an intolerance of ambiguity. They fear ambivalence and have little tolerance of uncertainty, because to them, uncertainty equals anxiety. As a result, they have a love of precision and see things more in terms of black and white than gray."
"They both fear making a mistake and long for certainties: a person with the subtype "wants to be talked to in a certain manner so that he or she may feel that the speaker knows, the speaker is right."
"As a result of being so much in their heads, they don't have very much contact with the instincts or their intuition."
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion I was just pointing out the hypocrisy by citing various examples.
Is there a non-hypocritical negative opinion of Rush by someone? Is that possible?
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Is there a non-hypocritical negative opinion of Rush by someone? Is that possible?
Of course but the negative opinion is a running narrative of his so called moral character. It's not about anything else. I get it, he said a lot of disturbing things and should burn in hell.
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I get it, he said a lot of disturbing things and should burn in hell.
There ya go. That wasn't difficult!
Just havin' some fun, Muggs. Glad you're a Scooper now.
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What is it is it about these right wing icons- they’ve all
been married three or four times and they all came up with weird medical issues ( anal warts, bone spurs) in order to dodge the draft.
Hopefully Rush's condition has now cleared up.
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Yep yep. Pretty soon he’ll be bring up something Adlai Stevenson said in high school or something.
Norman Vincent Peale who used to be the pastor of the church that Trump claims he is a member of, blasted Adlai Stevenson because he was divorced. When asked how he felt about this Adlai said "I find Paul appealing and Peale appalling."
Wiki says there is another version of this story where Stevenson said this in response to Peale's claim that JFK was unfit for the presidency because he was a Catholic.
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Now that this Cuomo nursing home story is coming out Fox and the right have called him a murderer while at the same time Left leaning media has done everything possible not to report the story..
Guess you don't read the Times Muggsy, they can't get enough of Cuomo.
https://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/andrew-cuomo
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Man, making a sweeping generalization about how you think everyone on one side of a political spectrum thinks in order to get mad about the resulting hypocrisy certainly is one way to live life I guess.
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I'm using the example to illustrate a point. I'm not grading one's racist comments vs the other. The fact is we are living in a world where Lincoln, Jefferson, and Washington's past are being scrutinized, and their statues toppled. A guy was fired for as the Sacramento Kings broadcaster after 25 yrs for saying "All Lives Matter."
Again, my whole point is about the vitriol towards Limbaugh vs others who have also said dumb and incendiary things. There a lot of scumbags out there, that's the bottom line. If people had this reaction to Clinton or Biden's death they would be banned from social media platforms and canceled completely if possible.
Limbaugh said some horrible things as did Biden, fine. But why is it when Biden or Bill Clinton kick the bucket I expect most of you and the media not to say one word about their moral behavior not to mention tweet about their douchebaggery every 5 secs?
Sigh. FALSE EQUIVALENCY. Look it up.
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Now that this Cuomo nursing home story is coming out Fox and the right have called him a murderer while at the same time Left leaning media has done everything possible not to report the story..
Sorry, this is simply false. Cuomo has been covered quite thoroughly, as is proper, and the so-called "left wing-media" isn't defending him, nor are they failing to cover the story. Your facts, or perception, are simply inaccurate.
Left-wingers tend to quickly assemble the circular firing squad when one on their side transgresses (See Franken, Al) while right-wingers tend to dig and defend the indefensible (See this thread).
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Guess you don't read the Times Muggsy, they can't get enough of Cuomo.
https://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/andrew-cuomo
dude, they could have stated writing this stuf...ohhh, about the time they were giving him his emmy and tripping over each other to get his book written last summer? was that before or after those "hilarious" segments that he and his lil bro were putting on a stupid back and forth about the size of his nose and who was cuter. don't remember the circular firing squad around chris cuomo when he violated his own "quarantine" got into a very public fight with a citizen who called him out. the numerous violations within his own apartment building for mask wearing and on and on.
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Now that this Cuomo nursing home story is coming out Fox and the right have called him a murderer while at the same time Left leaning media has done everything possible not to report the story..
This was either ignorance or a lie. Before you posted this, AOC, the most notable left-wing politician had already called for investigations into Cuomo. It was reported days ago, here's proof from The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/19/aoc-andrew-cuomo-nursing-homes-investigation
In the article, it mentions that this was being reported on CNN. Maybe Tucker is telling you the media isn't reporting it, but that's not true.
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dude, they could have stated writing this stuf...ohhh, about the time they were giving him his emmy and tripping over each other to get his book written last summer? was that before or after those "hilarious" segments that he and his lil bro were putting on a stupid back and forth about the size of his nose and who was cuter. don't remember the circular firing squad around chris cuomo when he violated his own "quarantine" got into a very public fight with a citizen who called him out. the numerous violations within his own apartment building for mask wearing and on and on.
Ah the goalpost shifting....
"The MSM doesn't cover Cuomo!!!"
<provides links that show that indeed the "MSM" covers Cuomo>
"They didn't do it early enough!!!! And....<unintelligible gibberish>"
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Ah the goalpost shifting....
"The MSM doesn't cover Cuomo!!!"
<provides links that show that indeed the "MSM" covers Cuomo>
"They didn't do it early enough!!!! And....<unintelligible gibberish>"
His brain has to rationalize it all somehow. It must be so painful to live like this.
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Of course but the negative opinion is a running narrative of his so called moral character. It's not about anything else. I get it, he said a lot of disturbing things and should burn in hell.
You believe that what someone says isn't an indication of their moral character?
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Now that this Cuomo nursing home story is coming out Fox and the right have called him a murderer while at the same time Left leaning media has done everything possible not to report the story..
There is constant hypocrisy on both sides on subject, after subject, after subject. There is no analysis, on any event or subject, other than doing everything humanly possible to support your political agenda and ideology.
As others have noted Muggsy, there is direct evidence that one side actually tries to police their own. Al Franken kicked out, even the furthest left of congressmen AOC, calling for investigations of Cuomo. I know of Cuomo's misdeeds from what you call "far-left" media, because they cover it, criticize/condemn it.
How often do you hear the right calling for DeSantis' head for lying about COVID deaths, and then arresting the whistleblower, to hide his ineptitude? How often is that case carried on Foxnews, or OAN, or Newsmax. I'm sure McConnell and Jim Jordan are firing up a call for an investigation.
Are they calling for an investigation of DeSantis diverting an entire shipment of vaccines to a development of one of his supporters, and insisting that only residents of two super wealthy zip codes get access to those vaccines, while members of the wider community get nothing?
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I mean we had a member of House minority leadership JUST TODAY refused to admit Biden win in November...
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His brain has to rationalize it all somehow. It must be so painful to live like this.
Brain?
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This guy for WI Senate
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How often do you hear the right calling for DeSantis' head for lying about COVID deaths, and then arresting the whistleblower, to hide his ineptitude? How often is that case carried on Foxnews, or OAN, or Newsmax. I'm sure McConnell and Jim Jordan are firing up a call for an investigation.
Are they calling for an investigation of DeSantis diverting an entire shipment of vaccines to a development of one of his supporters, and insisting that only residents of two super wealthy zip codes get access to those vaccines, while members of the wider community get nothing?
Indeed, they consider DeSantis one of their party's superstars.
And the deposed president of the United States called a racist, conspiracy-spewing QAnon wack-job "a future Republican star."
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And Cuomo is probably going to get primaried from the left. And AOC called for an investigation while raising money for Texans.
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And President Biden isn't threatening to withhold emergency aid to Texas, Oklahoma and other frozen southern states if their governors aren't "nicer" to him.
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There's total hypocrisy on both sides. Maybe this is a better example FBM:
Now that this Cuomo nursing home story is coming out Fox and the right have called him a murderer while at the same time Left leaning media has done everything possible not to report the story..
100% untrue. I learned about the story on MSNBC and have seen numerous reports on it there.
You need to be careful about equating opinions and facts. Both are welcome here on scoop. As are you, even though your politics is different than the majority. You have added to the discussions here on many subjects.
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Sorry, this is simply false. Cuomo has been covered quite thoroughly, as is proper, and the so-called "left wing-media" isn't defending him, nor are they failing to cover the story. Your facts, or perception, are simply inaccurate.
Smitty,
The story about Coumo causing thousands of unnecessary deaths in nursing homes is months and months old. But through much of it he was still viewed as heroic, a great leader to contrast to Trump. Once the mission (defeating Trump) was accomplished the MSM and the Democratic Party became interested in the old story. His own people even started ratting him out. Where were all of them 4,5,6 months ago? Showering him with praise, giving him awards and covering for him. He was useful then. Not any more.
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Smitty,
The story about Coumo causing thousands of unnecessary deaths in nursing homes is months and months old. But through much of it he was still viewed as heroic, a great leader to contrast to Trump. Once the mission (defeating Trump) was accomplished the MSM and the Democratic Party became interested in the old story. His own people even started ratting him out. Where were all of them 4,5,6 months ago? Showering him with praise, giving him awards and covering for him. He was useful then. Not any more.
thank you lenny!! as much as they tell us to view "other sources' than fox, no one else was covering this until AFTER trump was defeated and they had a little extra time on their hands. not until the new york atty gen letitia james(dem) called cuomo out, the MSM was too busy licking his boots. these nursing home deaths were mounting as far back as march-april when he ORDERED patients back to nursing homes, covid or no covid, to free up space for all the other covid patients.
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Smitty,
The story about Coumo causing thousands of unnecessary deaths in nursing homes is months and months old. But through much of it he was still viewed as heroic, a great leader to contrast to Trump. Once the mission (defeating Trump) was accomplished the MSM and the Democratic Party became interested in the old story. His own people even started ratting him out. Where were all of them 4,5,6 months ago? Showering him with praise, giving him awards and covering for him. He was useful then. Not any more.
Careful with your language there. Analyses after the fact have suggested those initial reports were wrong. Several retrospective analyses have indicated that the policies had little if any effect on nursing home deaths. The bigger issue appears to be spread from asymptomatic or weakly symptomatic staff that didn't have access to PPE, and then unknowingly spread it through facilities.
Even the most aggressive report from a conservative think tank put the additional deaths from the policy in the 100's at most.
Further, the reporting of that policy and all the circumstances surrounding it are poorly, and possibly intentionally misreported. You'll notice no one calls for investigations of that policy decision, the reason is that it would make everyone from the Whitehouse down to Cuomo look bad. Cuomo, may even come out the least scathed in that whole process/investigation. March was a nightmare, I'd love for there to be an investigation of what all went wrong in the early phases and then hold those people accountable, but it isn't going to happen.
Now that is separate from the disgusting, and apparently intentional manipulation of nursing home death reporting, to exclude those who died in hospitals. That story is still being fleshed out and is well covered by all media. Cuomo needs to be held accountable for that and people on the left are calling for investigations and accountability.
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Smitty,
The story about Coumo causing thousands of unnecessary deaths in nursing homes is months and months old. But through much of it he was still viewed as heroic, a great leader to contrast to Trump. Once the mission (defeating Trump) was accomplished the MSM and the Democratic Party became interested in the old story. His own people even started ratting him out. Where were all of them 4,5,6 months ago? Showering him with praise, giving him awards and covering for him. He was useful then. Not any more.
So again, the claim started out as, "The media never covers the things the left does wrong", and when that was proven false it shifted to "the media doesn't cover what the left does wrong quickly enough".
And somehow you are trying to juxtapose that in a favorable way with the way the right-wing media covers the right. Ummmm, OK, sure.
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Smitty,
The story about Coumo causing thousands of unnecessary deaths in nursing homes is months and months old. But through much of it he was still viewed as heroic, a great leader to contrast to Trump. Once the mission (defeating Trump) was accomplished the MSM and the Democratic Party became interested in the old story. His own people even started ratting him out. Where were all of them 4,5,6 months ago? Showering him with praise, giving him awards and covering for him. He was useful then. Not any more.
The tinfoil hat thinking of the right has infected even formerly reasonable people.
What do you think, Lenny, the MSM* holds secret meetings to coordinate their coverage?
By the way, the NY Times was reporting on the nursing homes back in April.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/us/nursing-homes-coronavirus.html?searchResultPosition=28
*Which never seems to include the nation's largest television news network or the nation's largest newspaper or the nation's second largest chain of TV stations, etc.
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Once again, always a conspiracy.
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So again, the claim started out as, "The media never covers the things the left does wrong", and when that was proven false it shifted to "the media doesn't cover what the left does wrong quickly enough".
And somehow you are trying to juxtapose that in a favorable way with the way the right-wing media covers the right. Ummmm, OK, sure.
I never said “The media doesn’t cover anything the left does wrong”. All I did was point out the fact that all the stuff Cuomo did re nursing homes happened almost a year ago. What was public knowledge didn’t interest the MSM until after the election. New information (that was actually old) wasn’t released by his fellow Democrats until after the election. If you think this was a coincidence - well, to quote Fluffy, whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Step out of the echo chamber.
When big tech shuts down and targets those with whom they disagree while vile anti-American rants remain one could argue conspiracy along with many studies showing the overwhelming bias of National press.
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New information (that was actually old) wasn’t released by his fellow Democrats until after the election.
Those clever Democrats- by failing to release this "New information (that was actually old" they insured that Trump did not get enough votes to carry New York.
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don't remember the circular firing squad around chris cuomo when he violated his own "quarantine" got into a very public fight with a citizen who called him out. the numerous violations within his own apartment building for mask wearing and on and on.
Have to give the devil his due- this is a pretty convincing argument,
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Step out of the echo chamber.
When big tech shuts down and targets those with whom they disagree while vile anti-American rants remain one could argue conspiracy along with many studies showing the overwhelming bias of National press.
https://t.co/wMx143iZQj
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This joint is going to be lit when Hannity or Carlson die.
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This joint is going to be lit when Hannity or Carlson die.
More glee than if the warriors won the National Championship.
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thank you lenny!! as much as they tell us to view "other sources' than fox, no one else was covering this until AFTER trump was defeated and they had a little extra time on their hands. not until the new york atty gen letitia james(dem) called cuomo out, the MSM was too busy licking his boots. these nursing home deaths were mounting as far back as march-april when he ORDERED patients back to nursing homes, covid or no covid, to free up space for all the other covid patients.
I thought COVID was a Democratic hoax.
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More glee than if the warriors won the National Championship.
You're thinking of the glee about half of Scoop will feel if our alma mater gets embarrassed Wednesday by UNC.
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thank you lenny!! as much as they tell us to view "other sources' than fox, no one else was covering this until AFTER trump was defeated and they had a little extra time on their hands. not until the new york atty gen letitia james(dem) called cuomo out, the MSM was too busy licking his boots. these nursing home deaths were mounting as far back as march-april when he ORDERED patients back to nursing homes, covid or no covid, to free up space for all the other covid patients.
Would%u2019ve thought the news cycle was just catching up after the republican-fueled Insurrection which killed five people, and then the subsequent second impeachment trial of a very bad person.
Cuomo deserves all the attention and blame coming. However, just because Fox News was desperate to cover anything but the aforementioned American travesties, doesn%u2019t make them any better.
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You're thinking of the glee about half of Scoop will feel if our alma mater gets embarrassed Wednesday by UNC.
Nope. Who here has stated that they’re gleeful when MU loses? That’s you assigning emotions - quite unfairly IMO.
Those here who are gleeful about death are unabashed. They even think their celebrations are proof of their own goodness.
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Nope. Who here has stated that they’re gleeful when MU loses? That’s you assigning emotions - quite unfairly IMO.
Those here who are gleeful about death are unabashed. They even think their celebrations are proof of their own goodness.
You're a smart guy, Tony, you can read a room just as well as I can.
I mean, is somebody simply saying, "The world is a better place without Limbaugh," doing any more celebrating than somebody saying, "Well, that's another green weinie!" every time one of Wojo's recruits signs elsewhere?
And it hasn't been even all that difficult to read between the lines regarding MU winning. Several Scoopers have come right out and said that they hope we lose Wednesday.
"I am all for this game being played. Anything that helps to embarrass Wojo in a more high profile way should be applauded. This will fit that bill." - Cfollow
"The only thing that can bring the program back to relevance is losing to the point where we force the BOT’s hands." - 5DollarPitcher
"Figurin' on an ass kickin', hey?" - Doc Dribble
"Sure has the makings of a butt whipping!" - 79Warrior
5Cent went so far as to mock any Marquette fans who actually want to see our alma mater win.
Back to Limbaugh ...
Not that I had any use for Limbaugh and the hate he spewed daily, but I personally never celebrated his death (in this thread or elsewhere) one iota. His death is immaterial to me, just as his life was.
It is a little bizarre, though, to see so many leap to the defense of a guy who celebrated -- and I mean REALLY celebrated -- the deaths of people who had AIDS. He practically sang and danced on their graves as he sounded bells and horns in celebration.
Or as rocket said (as only he can): "rush was a decent human being with an opinion."
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More glee than if the warriors won the National Championship.
I was actually thinking of the side of the coin where they get painted as serious journalists who contributed greatly to America and not the fear mongering sycophants they are.