Limbaugh dead

[Uncle Rico]

Don't forget the National Enquirer while you're at it.

The National Enquirer spiked a lot of Trump stories to protect him.

Sad!  Fake news!

[tower912]

You would be a more well rounded person if you subscribed to the NY Post. Check out Page 6, and you will be able to keep up with all the gossip.

Any time I see a story originated in the post, I get skeptical.   

[Jockey]

That's why I put her and Keith in a different paragraph. I don't think Maddow pushes hate, but I do think her firm ideological push tends to be more insulatory for the left and doesn't encourage discussion because instead of debate, it's more just pointing at all the reasons the Right is wrong.

With leftist ideals myself, I usually agree with her, but her arguments aren't the kind I can use to have discussions with those across the aisle unless I just want the rhetorical fight.

I agree with all this. And I have the same issue with Rschel (who I often watch) as you do.

Bill Mahre brought up a good point last week talking to Steve Schmidt last week. Schmidt was a lifelong republican who ran McCain's campaign. Because of Trump, he is now a registered Dem. But, speaking of Steve's views, Bill said he thinks Steve is only on MSNBC to talk about certain things that fit in with what they want to get across. They never have him on to talk about tax policy, regulation, immigration, etc. I thought that was a valid point.

We run the gamut from far left to very centrist. It's important to get all those views.

[Billy Hoyle]

I agree with all this. And I have the same issue with Rschel (who I often watch) as you do.

Bill Mahre brought up a good point last week talking to Steve Schmidt last week. Schmidt was a lifelong republican who ran McCain's campaign. Because of Trump, he is now a registered Dem. But, speaking of Steve's views, Bill said he thinks Steve is only on MSNBC to talk about certain things that fit in with what they want to get across. They never have him on to talk about tax policy, regulation, immigration, etc. I thought that was a valid point.

We run the gamut from far left to very centrist. It's important to get all those views.

Conservatives hate Maher, Progressives hate Maher. He’s doing something right.

[Jockey]

My main problem with Maddow is that I don't like being lectured. Although I found her to be very intelligent, I stopped watching her many years ago because sometimes it felt like an hour of tsk-tsking and finger-wagging. Same was true of Chris Hayes.

Horse beaten ... and then beaten again ... and again ... and again.

I agree with you, to a point. A daily diet of MSNBC (or Fox) isn't conducive to well-rounded knowledge. While Maddow and Hayes are very good at what they do, they are there to push a certain narrative. They are not newspeople and should never be considered that. There are times when I will turn one of them on and will stop watching within a minute or two. Other times, they show why they are good at what they do.

The good thing (?) is that you know what you are getting. They never openly lie like Fox. They don't change their opinion on a subject depending on who they are quoting. They don't change the very things they have said that they stand for depending on who is elected. The same cannot be said for most right wing media.

[Jockey]

Conservatives hate Maher, Progressives hate Maher. He’s doing something right.

I watch almost every week - and he is slowly turning into that "get off my lawn" guy.

[Pakuni]

Conservatives hate Maher, Progressives hate Maher. He’s doing something right.

Meh. Maher is just a provocateur who is contrarian to whatever the prevailing wisdom of the moment may be. Not that a little provocation and contrarianism isn't good now and again, but he adds little else other than hot takes against whatever truism is being espoused.
Terrorists who attack civilian targets are cowardly? No, they're quite brave, says Bill.
We should be sensitive to others' cultures? F--- 'em, says Bill.

[Uncle Rico]

Conservatives hate Maher, Progressives hate Maher. He’s doing something right.

He makes everyone uncomfortable.  I don’t watch him much but I see a lot of complaining about him from both sides

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

I agree with you, to a point. A daily diet of MSNBC (or Fox) isn't conducive to well-rounded knowledge. While Maddow and Hayes are very good at what they do, they are there to push a certain narrative. They are not newspeople and should never be considered that. There are times when I will turn one of them on and will stop watching within a minute or two. Other times, they show why they are good at what they do.

The good thing (?) is that you know what you are getting. They never openly lie like Fox. They don't change their opinion on a subject depending on who they are quoting. They don't change the very things they have said that they stand for depending on who is elected. The same cannot be said for most right wing media.

Which is why Fox should never be compared to MSNBC.  25-30% on Fox is utter made up or extremely misleading and the same does not apply to MSNBC.

[MuggsyB]

I didn't celebrate his death. I just said the world is a brighter place now.

I didn't hope for Jeffrey Dahmer to get murdered in prison, but I didn't care that it happened. That made the world a brighter place as well. The deaths of Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. also made the world a brighter place. When bad people leave this earth, life is better for everyone.

Sadly, when these people die, the cockroaches crawl out to the light to fill the void.

Right.....Limbaugh was exactly like Mao, Pol-Pot, Stalin, Hitler , and Assad.

I assume then that you feel the exact same way about Biden who had said more asinine and belittling comments regarding race than anyone known to man?  Not to mention read a Eulogy to a former KKK liaison?  And let's not forget about the 1994 crime bill.   Take 5 secs and ask yourself what the media would do to a Republican candidate with Biden's track record and idiotic statements and actions the past 45+ years. 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Right.....Limbaugh was exactly like Mao, Pol-Pot, Stalin, Hitler , and Assad.

I assume then that you feel the exact same way about Biden who had said more asinine and belittling comments regarding race than anyone known to man?  Not to mention read a Eulogy to a former KKK liaison?  And let's not forget about the 1994 crime bill.   Take 5 secs and ask yourself what the media would do to a Republican candidate with Biden's track record and idiotic statements and actions the past 45+ years. 

He never said what you claimed he said in the first paragraph.

And your attempt at whataboutism in the second is hilarious.

[MuggsyB]

He never said what you claimed he said in the first paragraph.

And your attempt at whataboutism in the second is hilarious.

And your whataboutism is parroting what left leaning media does when they have absolutely no retort or won't deal with hypocrisy or basic facts.  I'm not defending Rush's comments but just admit Biden has said asinine racist things for YEARS.

[Hards Alumni]

Meh. Maher is just a provocateur who is contrarian to whatever the prevailing wisdom of the moment may be. Not that a little provocation and contrarianism isn't good now and again, but he adds little else other than hot takes against whatever truism is being espoused.
Terrorists who attack civilian targets are cowardly? No, they're quite brave, says Bill.
We should be sensitive to others' cultures? F--- 'em, says Bill.

Hey, you beat me to it.  The reason I don't like him is that often times his guest is making a decent point, and then Bill just interrupts them with a glib joke, and then moves on to the whooping noises of the crowd.

I know his show is meant to be political entertainment, but I just think he is a doucher of the highest degree.

[Hards Alumni]

Right.....Limbaugh was exactly like Mao, Pol-Pot, Stalin, Hitler , and Assad.

I assume then that you feel the exact same way about Biden who had said more asinine and belittling comments regarding race than anyone known to man?  Not to mention read a Eulogy to a former KKK liaison?  And let's not forget about the 1994 crime bill.   Take 5 secs and ask yourself what the media would do to a Republican candidate with Biden's track record and idiotic statements and actions the past 45+ years.

They'd help him get elected to be 45th president of the United States and then rope people into watching outrage porn for four years.  Make no mistake, the media LOVED Donald Trump.  He made them a ghastly amount of money.

[Lighthouse 84]

Which is why Fox should never be compared to MSNBC.  25-30% on Fox is utter made up or extremely misleading and the same does not apply to MSNBC.

I’d argue that not covering stories that negatively reflect on the left is lying to the public and extremely misleading.  And that does apply to MSNBC and CNN.

[🏀]

The decline of the newspaper is ultimately responsible for the decline of American politics, possibly eventually society.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

And your whataboutism is parroting what left leaning media does when they have absolutely no retort or won't deal with hypocrisy or basic facts.  I'm not defending Rush's comments but just admit Biden has said asinine racist things for YEARS.

Biden won the black vote by how much?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Which is why Fox should never be compared to MSNBC.  25-30% on Fox is utter made up or extremely misleading and the same does not apply to MSNBC.

Source?

I love how the msdnc watchers are complete selfawarewolves.

[Pakuni]

The decline of the newspaper is ultimately responsible for the decline of American politics, possibly eventually society.

I see no lies.

[MuggsyB]

Biden won the black vote by how much?

Right:  Because  if they didn't vote for him "they ain't black."  Again, the amount of racist and vile things this guy has said over his career should cause as much vitriol as Limbaugh and Trump.  Now, if you'll excuse me,  I'm off to the 7-Eleven to learn about Indian and Hindu culture by talking to the clerk there.

[MU82]

The decline of the newspaper is ultimately responsible for the decline of American politics, possibly eventually society.

Agree 100%.

Thank goodness for the hard-working reporters and editors at the NYT, WSJ and WaPo these last 4 years.

But it's a sad state of affairs for a business who for centuries kept politicians in line. The absence of that oversight is especially glaring in small and mid-sized communities, as local journalism is practically dead.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Right:  Because  if they didn't vote for him "they ain't black."  Again, the amount of racist and vile things this guy has said over his career should cause as much vitriol as Limbaugh and Trump.  Now, if you'll excuse me,  I'm off to the 7-Eleven to learn about Indian and Hindu culture by talking to the clerk there.

Uh no.  You don't get it.  If Biden indeed did all these racist and vile things, why are Black people voting for him?  Either they have forgiven him OR you're exaggerating. 

[MU82]

You would be a more well rounded person if you subscribed to the NY Post.

In modern-day journalism circles, this is considered the greatest headline ever written.

[MuggsyB]

Uh no.  You don't get it.  If Biden indeed did all these racist and vile things, why are Black people voting for him?  Either they have forgiven him OR you're exaggerating.

So he's never said racist things or had anything to do with the 1994 crime bill?  Got it.  Maybe insinuating that black voters are monolithic, or should be,  isn't the greatest way to elucidate whatever point you are trying to make.  Yes or no?   Has Biden repeatedly said idiotic and racist things?   Your argument is literally analogous to saying:  why did suburban women vote for Trump over Hilary if he was not in fact a woman?

[tower912]

Biden has been around so long and taken so many votes and sponsored so much legislation that he has participated at some time in something that offended everybody.

Biden was dead in the water.   The African American voters of South Carolina saved him and catapulted his campaign to front runner status.   Thanks to them, he ran the table and here we are.