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MuggsyB

Zelenskyy has denied that the missile was Ukrainian.  Apparently this needs to be investigated further. 

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 16, 2022, 12:12:44 PM
Zelenskyy has denied that the missile was Ukrainian.  Apparently this needs to be investigated further.

Well, it won't be.  Consider the matter settled.

MU82

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 16, 2022, 12:12:44 PM
Zelenskyy has denied that the missile was Ukrainian.  Apparently this needs to be investigated further.

Perhaps a perfect phone call could settle things.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Boozemon Barro

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 16, 2022, 12:12:44 PM
Zelenskyy has denied that the missile was Ukrainian.  Apparently this needs to be investigated further.

LOL

The Sultan

Brittney Griner on her way home.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

lawdog77

Do we at least get a prisoner to be named later in the trade? Vape vs Arms dealer.

JWags85

Great for Griner and her loved ones but a terrible deal.  Releasing a civilian who made a bad choice and became a political pawn...for one of the worst allies of world wide terrorism and destructive arms dealers of the last century.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: JWags85 on December 08, 2022, 07:41:13 AM
Great for Griner and her loved ones but a terrible deal.  Releasing a civilian who made a bad choice and became a political pawn...for one of the worst allies of world wide terrorism and destructive arms dealers of the last century.

Yup.  Didn't even get our spy back.

UWW2MU

I'm very happy for Brittney Griner and her family. 

Also:

I'm so mad that we released a notorious international criminal arms dealer that is/will be responsible for many past and future loss of innocent lives.  The cost may have been too high.

I'm pissed that our government gave up so much.  I'm pissed that Russia gets away with this sort of thing.  I'm pissed at a certain wing of the GOP is so public for either their support of Russia or at least appease them or repeat their propaganda and let them get away with things like this.


If there is any silver lining, the high profile nature of this may help reinforce to people to take the laws of authoritarian ruled countries seriously and hopefully realize that however flawed the United States is, our freedoms and rights should be cherished.

reinko

Online arm chair international hostage experts is refreshing from the standard arm chair pathogen pandemic expert.  Methinks a bit of overlap between these two groups of experts.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: reinko on December 08, 2022, 08:53:52 AM
Online arm chair international hostage experts is refreshing from the standard arm chair pathogen pandemic expert.  Methinks a bit of overlap between these two groups of experts.

You should know by now we are all experts on everything.  When there is trouble in the world, you need only ask us at scoop for the answer.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"


UWW2MU

Quote from: reinko on December 08, 2022, 08:53:52 AM
Online arm chair international hostage experts is refreshing from the standard arm chair pathogen pandemic expert.  Methinks a bit of overlap between these two groups of experts.

I don't know about the others, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. 

ZiggysFryBoy

Is she gonna sing the Star Spangled Banner at the super bowl?

The Sultan

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on December 08, 2022, 09:26:48 AM
Is she gonna sing the Star Spangled Banner at the super bowl?


She might if she's asked. Or she might burn the flag when her plane touches down, which is fully within her rights as a citizen.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MUBurrow

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 08, 2022, 08:27:35 AM
Yup.  Didn't even get our spy back.

OR MAYBE WE DID, HMMMMM!?!?!?

MuggsyB

Quote from: UWW2MU on December 08, 2022, 08:48:08 AM
I'm very happy for Brittney Griner and her family. 

Also:

I'm so mad that we released a notorious international criminal arms dealer that is/will be responsible for many past and future loss of innocent lives.  The cost may have been too high.

I'm pissed that our government gave up so much.  I'm pissed that Russia gets away with this sort of thing.  I'm pissed at a certain wing of the GOP is so public for either their support of Russia or at least appease them or repeat their propaganda and let them get away with things like this.


If there is any silver lining, the high profile nature of this may help reinforce to people to take the laws of authoritarian ruled countries seriously and hopefully realize that however flawed the United States is, our freedoms and rights should be cherished.

Well said.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: JWags85 on December 08, 2022, 07:41:13 AM
Great for Griner and her loved ones but a terrible deal.  Releasing a civilian who made a bad choice and became a political pawn...for one of the worst allies of world wide terrorism and destructive arms dealers of the last century.
I thought Russia was sending us a point guard to balance out the deal?

Seriously, the US and our State Department needs to bury this story as fast as possible. For Griner's benefit if nothing else.

Jockey

I'm just happy that George Soros was willing to borrow Hunter Biden's laptop and fly to Benghazi to make this deal over TikTok.

MU82

Glad for Griner, her wife and their loved ones. That must have been beyond awful for both of them.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 08, 2022, 09:01:33 AM
Didant miss her, hey?
Most of us were rooting for the state department to exchange you for her.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: tower912 on December 08, 2022, 11:19:57 AM
Most of us were rooting for the state department to exchange you for her.
Russia wanted something of value
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: TSmith34 on December 08, 2022, 11:43:23 AM
Russia wanted something of value


Should have traded a few dentists instead, I guess?

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