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Skatastrophy

Quote from: pbiflyer on February 02, 2022, 07:05:18 AM
Teachers Are Quitting, and Companies Are Hot to Hire Them
Businesses eager to fill jobs are offering former educators better pay and more autonomy
https://www.wsj.com/articles/teachers-are-quitting-and-companies-are-hot-to-hire-them-11643634181


Burned out teachers are leaving the classroom for jobs in the private sector, where talent-hungry companies are hiring them—and often boosting their pay—to work in sales, software, healthcare and training, among other fields.

Teachers are great at Customer Support and Customer Success without much training. Wonderful communicators, for the most part, and pretty high EQ.

JWags85

Quote from: Skatastrophy on February 02, 2022, 09:24:09 AM
Teachers are great at Customer Support and Customer Success without much training. Wonderful communicators, for the most part, and pretty high EQ.

Similarly, I know multiple teachers in Chicago and Columbus that left teaching and got very well compensated personal assistant roles for executives and bigger companies.  Good communicators, organized, flexible, and high EQ fit that role well.

ZiggysFryBoy

Customer service and executive assistants.  Way to aim high.

I know former teachers in a lot of higher level roles.  Insurance, corporate comms,  corporate training, real estate all come to mind in about 8 seconds of thinking.

The biggest problem, at least in Illinois where my brother and SiL teach, is that they are so bound to their pension, that it's hard to leave.  I didn't fully understand it, but I believe their social security is contributed to the pension, so they get nothing if they leave before being fully vested.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 02, 2022, 10:22:32 AM
Customer service and executive assistants.  Way to aim high.

I know former teachers in a lot of higher level roles.  Insurance, corporate comms,  corporate training, real estate all come to mind in about 8 seconds of thinking.

The biggest problem, at least in Illinois where my brother and SiL teach, is that they are so bound to their pension, that it's hard to leave.  I didn't fully understand it, but I believe their social security is contributed to the pension, so they get nothing if they leave before being fully vested.

At my fiancés district she's not even eligible to start paying into the pension program till year 5. It's a decent way to weed out young teachers who don't want to do it forever.
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JWags85

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 02, 2022, 10:22:32 AM
Customer service and executive assistants.  Way to aim high.

I know former teachers in a lot of higher level roles.  Insurance, corporate comms,  corporate training, real estate all come to mind in about 8 seconds of thinking.

The biggest problem, at least in Illinois where my brother and SiL teach, is that they are so bound to their pension, that it's hard to leave.  I didn't fully understand it, but I believe their social security is contributed to the pension, so they get nothing if they leave before being fully vested.

Personal assistants, not executive assistants aka secretaries.  Not a single one of those teachers is still a PA.  The role is essentially chief of staff for for the C level executive they are working with.  And then they get excellent experience and continue onward within the company.

tower912

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 02, 2022, 10:22:32 AM
Customer service and executive assistants.  Way to aim high.

I know former teachers in a lot of higher level roles.  Insurance, corporate comms,  corporate training, real estate all come to mind in about 8 seconds of thinking.

The biggest problem, at least in Illinois where my brother and SiL teach, is that they are so bound to their pension, that it's hard to leave.  I didn't fully understand it, but I believe their social security is contributed to the pension, so they get nothing if they leave before being fully vested.
The pay and benefits are better.   No longer a political scapegoat.   Not a lot of downside.
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pbiflyer

Quote from: JWags85 on February 02, 2022, 10:43:24 AM
Personal assistants, not executive assistants aka secretaries.  Not a single one of those teachers is still a PA.  The role is essentially chief of staff for for the C level executive they are working with.  And then they get excellent experience and continue onward within the company.
Yeah, we had a PA to the CEO that basically ran the operations of the company and was compensated very well. Easily 6 figures. Not a lot of teachers pulling down that kind of coin.

MU Fan in Connecticut

My wife is becoming her high school's tennis coach.  She has played tennis for fun in the past, but never anything organized.  Apparently, the district didn't even receive one application for the position and it's been open for quote some time.  Also, tennis "pros" don't apply because they consider these positions below them (???).  The school athletic director told her the tennis team basically needs a warm body as all the kids take private lessons, so they know what they are doing regardless of who the coach is.  She figured the extra money is worth it with our two kids in college.

MU82

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 22, 2022, 09:20:22 AM
My wife is becoming her high school's tennis coach.  She has played tennis for fun in the past, but never anything organized.  Apparently, the district didn't even receive one application for the position and it's been open for quote some time.  Also, tennis "pros" don't apply because they consider these positions below them (???).  The school athletic director told her the tennis team basically needs a warm body as all the kids take private lessons, so they know what they are doing regardless of who the coach is.  She figured the extra money is worth it with our two kids in college.

I hope she really has fun with it. I have found coaching to be very rewarding, even through the occasional headaches.
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MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: MU82 on March 22, 2022, 09:40:14 AM
I hope she really has fun with it. I have found coaching to be very rewarding, even through the occasional headaches.

She has had several of the kids as students previously and she said they're "all good kids".
Plus they have two matches/tournaments a week so they kids will spend more of their time playing other high schools rather than practicing.

JWags85

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 22, 2022, 09:20:22 AM
My wife is becoming her high school's tennis coach.  She has played tennis for fun in the past, but never anything organized.  Apparently, the district didn't even receive one application for the position and it's been open for quote some time.  Also, tennis "pros" don't apply because they consider these positions below them (???).  The school athletic director told her the tennis team basically needs a warm body as all the kids take private lessons, so they know what they are doing regardless of who the coach is.  She figured the extra money is worth it with our two kids in college.

I don't know what your district is like, but growing up in a suburb that had a very good tennis team, that tracks.  Pros at the clubs nearby would sometimes help out or assistant coach, but there wasn't really teaching or "coaching" done.  The Tennis coach basically worked with the AD on scheduling, managed intra team "rankings" to determine who was playing #1 singles, etc...

The pro at the club I played at growing up said he taught/coached more actual tennis on the summer league intra-club tourney circuit than he did when he coached HS tennis for a few years.

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on March 22, 2022, 12:34:50 PM
I don't know what your district is like, but growing up in a suburb that had a very good tennis team, that tracks.  Pros at the clubs nearby would sometimes help out or assistant coach, but there wasn't really teaching or "coaching" done.  The Tennis coach basically worked with the AD on scheduling, managed intra team "rankings" to determine who was playing #1 singles, etc...

The pro at the club I played at growing up said he taught/coached more actual tennis on the summer league intra-club tourney circuit than he did when he coached HS tennis for a few years.


And probably made more money doing it. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

At least in Wisconsin, on top of the other issues identified, it limited their ability to work with players outside the school season. It was probably more hassle than it was worth.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 22, 2022, 01:26:45 PM
At least in Wisconsin, on top of the other issues identified, it limited their ability to work with players outside the school season. It was probably more hassle than it was worth.

Our HS baseball coach told me that he gets about 10 days with his players before their first game.  The WIAA allows 5 additional days for pitchers and catchers (like 1 hour per day, every other day.)

HS sports is rapidly becoming nothing more than a hiccup in the club season. 

Also, the NFHS doesn't follow standard rules or link with other associations, so there is no carry over of times, etc.

2 examples.   The NFHS has their own rulebook for soccer different than the worldwide rulebook.  2nd, the NFHS swim times don't carry over to USA swimming. So the winter boys season ends a few weeks before state & up for USA swimming.

Just 2 examples that I know of.

pacearrow02

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1519021429110489089

Despite the masks, plexiglass, lunch outside, virtual learning, social distancing, vaccine mandates, etc etc

3 in 4 kids still got Covid.  For mitigation measures that we were told work so well, it's shocking that despite these incredibly effective measures that 75% of kids still got Covid and the cherry on top is we are now facing a mental health crisis like never seen before in school aged kids.  Great job guys.

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: pacearrow02 on April 26, 2022, 02:08:59 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1519021429110489089

Despite the masks, plexiglass, lunch outside, virtual learning, social distancing, vaccine mandates, etc etc

3 in 4 kids still got Covid.  For mitigation measures that we were told work so well, it's shocking that despite these incredibly effective measures that 75% of kids still got Covid and the cherry on top is we are now facing a mental health crisis like never seen before in school aged kids.  Great job guys.

If I am interpreting that article correctly, in a single month of testing (February 2022) 3 in 4 had antibodies.
QuoteThe most striking increase was in children. The percentage of those 17 and under with antibodies rose from about 45% in December to about 75% in February.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on April 26, 2022, 02:28:37 PM
If I am interpreting that article correctly, in a single month of testing (February 2022) 3 in 4 had antibodies.

Pace is a known idiot
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BrewCity83

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 26, 2022, 03:21:44 PM
Pace is a known idiot

You can call him names all day, but that doesn't diminish the fact that he has a good point.
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

The Sultan

Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 26, 2022, 04:37:51 PM
You can call him names all day, but that doesn't diminish the fact that he has a good point.

I can make a bunch of great points if I make up data too!
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

BrewCity83

Quote from: Clarissa on April 26, 2022, 04:42:22 PM
I can make a bunch of great points if I make up data too!

Are you saying that the CDC made this up?  The CDC is the source.

For the record, I don't believe anything that comes out of the CDC, but I may be in the minority on that.
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

The Sultan

Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 26, 2022, 04:54:29 PM
Are you saying that the CDC made this up?  The CDC is the source.

He said "3 of 4 kids still got Covid."  That is not what the article said, not what the data says and not what the CDC said.


Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 26, 2022, 04:54:29 PM
For the record, I don't believe anything that comes out of the CDC, but I may be in the minority on that.

Shocking.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

pacearrow02

Quote from: Clarissa on April 26, 2022, 04:59:12 PM
He said "3 of 4 kids still got Covid."  That is not what the article said, not what the data says and not what the CDC said.


Shocking.

Enlighten us Fluffy on what it said then.

jesmu84

Implication by OP is kids caught it at school.

Source?

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 26, 2022, 04:54:29 PM
For the record, I don't believe anything that comes out of the CDC, but I may be in the minority on that.
Smart move, stick with the Epoch Times for all your information.
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If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

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