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« Reply #500 on: March 19, 2020, 10:11:33 PM »
Always wondered why people devoted their lives to “public service”.

  Cough, ahemmm hack hack

I’m sure this goes on more often than is reported, but wtf??

  I don’t care who or what party.  There should be severe penalties

Agree wholeheartedly. And I believe the Stock Act (2012) makes insider trading (use of material nonpublic information for financial gain) by members of Congress subject to the penalties  of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. If an individual is found guilty of insider trading, the maximum penalty is 20 years in prison and $5,000,000.

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« Reply #501 on: March 19, 2020, 10:17:03 PM »
Lol of course you don’t. You’re about the only person I’ve read with that opinion. But fits everything else you’ve provided in this thread.

Who else is calling Bill Ackman a douchebag? Please point them out.
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Re: Investing Thread
« Reply #502 on: March 19, 2020, 10:28:26 PM »
Goldman predicting 2.25MM jobless claims this week. 10x increase WOW.

https://twitter.com/biancoresearch/status/1240841141739827201
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« Reply #503 on: March 19, 2020, 11:21:57 PM »
Agree wholeheartedly. And I believe the Stock Act (2012) makes insider trading (use of material nonpublic information for financial gain) by members of Congress subject to the penalties  of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. If an individual is found guilty of insider trading, the maximum penalty is 20 years in prison and $5,000,000.

DiFi, RonJon, georgia senator among those implicated.

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Re: Investing Thread
« Reply #504 on: March 20, 2020, 03:17:34 AM »
Futures turned around early this morning, pointing to opening gain.
Dow +592.00  S&P +71.00  NASDAQ +284.50

Today is Quadruple Witching Watch, expect increase in volatility.


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Re: Investing Thread
« Reply #505 on: March 20, 2020, 05:58:46 AM »
Agree wholeheartedly. And I believe the Stock Act (2012) makes insider trading (use of material nonpublic information for financial gain) by members of Congress subject to the penalties  of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. If an individual is found guilty of insider trading, the maximum penalty is 20 years in prison and $5,000,000.

HA, but what is the minimum?

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Re: Investing Thread
« Reply #506 on: March 20, 2020, 08:23:23 AM »
I liked it at $200 but love it at $100. I actually don’t hold a position in BA but am going to add some when more dry powder arrives Friday.

BA will be fine long term. Don’t feel bad. Everyone has gotten battered the last month.
I have mentioned a few times in this thread that I am not a fan of BA.  It may be tempting at $100, but a production stop and potential dividend cut will inflict more damage.  To me, they seem more like GE than a company that is going to make a V-shaped recovery.  Yes, eventually they will be alright, but personally I would wait to invest until they actually show signs of business recovery.

Just my opinion, but bottom fishing on this one feels like you might stay at the bottom for a long time.  I'd rather focus in stocks that have been pummeled senseless but still have strong business models. 
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

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« Reply #507 on: March 20, 2020, 08:23:55 AM »
Futures turned around early this morning, pointing to opening gain.
Dow +592.00  S&P +71.00  NASDAQ +284.50

Today is Quadruple Witching Watch, expect increase in volatility.

Same pattern as last week - let's hope for good news over the weekend

Anyone looking at BP?  $17/share looks tempting...

« Last Edit: March 20, 2020, 08:35:34 AM by Marquette Gyros »

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« Reply #508 on: March 20, 2020, 08:24:18 AM »
I have mentioned a few times in this thread that I am not a fan of BA.  It may be tempting at $100, but a production stop and potential dividend cut will inflict more damage.  To me, they seem more like GE than a company that is going to make a V-shaped recovery.  Yes, eventually they will be alright, but personally I would wait to invest until they actually show signs of business recovery.

Just my opinion, but bottom fishing on this one feels like you might stay at the bottom for a long time.  I'd rather focus in stocks that have been pummeled senseless but still have strong business models.

+1

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« Reply #509 on: March 20, 2020, 09:14:56 AM »
Starting to see reports about Senators dumping stock in late January and early February after receiving classified briefings about possible effects of Coronavirus on the country.

So they protected their OWN money while not warning Americans what was coming.

With the Senators running wild for profits after that briefing just imagine what the executive branch has been doing for the last 38 months.

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« Reply #510 on: March 20, 2020, 09:34:19 AM »
With the Senators running wild for profits after that briefing just imagine what the executive branch has been doing for the last 38 months.

If you look at these trades it really is not a big deal. Some of these senators husbands / wives are worth 100's of Millions of Dollars. The Fact they sold 1 or 2 million worth of stock is so insignificant. I haven't dug any deeper but i would suspect they have trades similar to this throughout the year. Now am i naive to think they don't use insider trading? Nope. But I'm sure they still show current losses in their portfolio.

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« Reply #511 on: March 20, 2020, 09:35:47 AM »
If you look at these trades it really is not a big deal. Some of these senators husbands / wives are worth 100's of Millions of Dollars. The Fact they sold 1 or 2 million worth of stock is so insignificant. I haven't dug any deeper but i would suspect they have trades similar to this throughout the year. Now am i naive to think they don't use insider trading? Nope. But I'm sure they still show current losses in their portfolio.


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Re: Investing Thread
« Reply #512 on: March 20, 2020, 09:41:47 AM »
With the Senators running wild for profits after that briefing just imagine what the executive branch has been doing for the last 38 months.

Imagine all the undetected kickbacks that could easily be hidden.  And that could be anyone from congress.  Send a message to your donors as soon as you're out of the meeting.  They buy or sell and look like geniuses.

Oh wait, that sort of thing has been going on for decades.  Proving it is another story.

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« Reply #513 on: March 20, 2020, 09:42:23 AM »
Same pattern as last week - let's hope for good news over the weekend

Anyone looking at BP?  $17/share looks tempting...

If looking at BP, look at OXY. Overpaid for Anadarko but stock has taken a major hit.

I am watching Casinos right now. Macau is back up and running with a few US Casino seeing 60%-80% of their revenue generated by the Chinese. LVS - 67% Wynn - 74%. Most likely a riskier play but once the lights turn back on in Las Vegas, people will return.

Gaming   52 Wk High   52 Wk Low   1-Jan   2-Mar   18-Mar   20-Mar
Wynn   153.41           47.77           143.6   102.12   48.43   50.71
MGM          34.64                 8.81                   33.66   25.05   8.85           8.9
PlayAGS   26.12        1.72                    12.12   9.32             1.75   1.48
LVS           74.29   33.3                             70.8   57.78   35.96   44.29

Safer plays I like: AMD, BILL, COLD
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« Reply #514 on: March 20, 2020, 09:51:06 AM »
If you look at these trades it really is not a big deal. Some of these senators husbands / wives are worth 100's of Millions of Dollars. The Fact they sold 1 or 2 million worth of stock is so insignificant. I haven't dug any deeper but i would suspect they have trades similar to this throughout the year. Now am i naive to think they don't use insider trading? Nope. But I'm sure they still show current losses in their portfolio.
Illegally trading on inside information is perfectly fine if it is a relatively small part of your portfolio?  Got it.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

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« Reply #515 on: March 20, 2020, 09:54:33 AM »
Illegally trading on inside information is perfectly fine if it is a relatively small part of your portfolio?  Got it.

interesting how you come to that conclusion from my post. Not sure where i say it is "perfectly fine". I will let the experts and legal hawks tell me if it is legal or illegal. I wont let Fox News, CBS, or CNN tell me.

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« Reply #516 on: March 20, 2020, 10:01:44 AM »
Imagine all the undetected kickbacks that could easily be hidden.  And that could be anyone from congress.  Send a message to your donors as soon as you're out of the meeting.  They buy or sell and look like geniuses.

Oh wait, that sort of thing has been going on for decades.  Proving it is another story.

I didn't post about Congress. I posted about the executive branch.

Name all of the previous executive branches in our history where the senior level positions didn't divest their financial holdings upon entering their administrations.

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« Reply #517 on: March 20, 2020, 10:07:42 AM »
interesting how you come to that conclusion from my post. Not sure where i say it is "perfectly fine". I will let the experts and legal hawks tell me if it is legal or illegal. I wont let Fox News, CBS, or CNN tell me.

How do you live in this world and not know that insider trading is illegal?

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« Reply #518 on: March 20, 2020, 10:09:23 AM »
I didn't post about Congress. I posted about the executive branch.

Name all of the previous executive branches in our history where the senior level positions didn't divest their financial holdings upon entering their administrations.

Oh I know.  I'm aware, but are we going to pretend like this practice isn't wide spread across government?  Knowledge is power.

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« Reply #519 on: March 20, 2020, 10:11:11 AM »
interesting how you come to that conclusion from my post. Not sure where i say it is "perfectly fine". I will let the experts and legal hawks tell me if it is legal or illegal. I wont let Fox News, CBS, or CNN tell me.
No, you said, "If you look at these trades it really is not a big deal."  So, yeah.
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« Reply #520 on: March 20, 2020, 10:19:49 AM »
If you look at these trades it really is not a big deal. Some of these senators husbands / wives are worth 100's of Millions of Dollars. The Fact they sold 1 or 2 million worth of stock is so insignificant. I haven't dug any deeper but i would suspect they have trades similar to this throughout the year. Now am i naive to think they don't use insider trading? Nope. But I'm sure they still show current losses in their portfolio.
Who's worth 100's of millions?

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« Reply #521 on: March 20, 2020, 10:24:45 AM »
If you look at these trades it really is not a big deal. Some of these senators husbands / wives are worth 100's of Millions of Dollars. The Fact they sold 1 or 2 million worth of stock is so insignificant. I haven't dug any deeper but i would suspect they have trades similar to this throughout the year. Now am i naive to think they don't use insider trading? Nope. But I'm sure they still show current losses in their portfolio.

Per Roll Call, Burr's net worth is about $1.7 million.
The amount of stock he sold is incredibly significant.  And he almost certainly doesn't routinely make stock transactions of this amount 


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« Reply #522 on: March 20, 2020, 10:29:13 AM »
Who's worth 100's of millions?

Looks like Richard Burr sold most of his net worth if his est net worth is $1-$2 Mil.  https://www.propublica.org/article/senator-dumped-up-to-1-6-million-of-stock-after-reassuring-public-about-coronavirus-preparedness

Loeffler - Estimated combined net worth $500 (most the net worth comes from Jeffrey Sprecher, husband & Chr NYSE)
DiFi - various ranges but est around $90 million

100's of millions would be incorrect. 10's of millions may be more appropriate.

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« Reply #523 on: March 20, 2020, 10:32:14 AM »
I invested in BA just over 100 ago... I've regretted it ever since...

BA will be fine, don’t worry.  I bought at $153.  Just ride the coaster, don’t jump off

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« Reply #524 on: March 20, 2020, 10:34:44 AM »
Looks like Richard Burr sold most of his net worth if his est net worth is $1-$2 Mil.  https://www.propublica.org/article/senator-dumped-up-to-1-6-million-of-stock-after-reassuring-public-about-coronavirus-preparedness

Loeffler - Estimated combined net worth $500 (most the net worth comes from Jeffrey Sprecher, husband & Chr NYSE)
DiFi - various ranges but est around $90 million

100's of millions would be incorrect. 10's of millions may be more appropriate.

Also inaccurately being reported Ron Johnson had a "stock dump" when it is being reported he sold his portion of ownership in a family company Pacur.

 

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