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Author Topic: Israel is at War  (Read 49307 times)

Lennys Tap

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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3525 on: December 04, 2023, 06:19:57 PM »
I've never voted for a member of the Squad

You’ve never had the chance because none have run in your district. I’m sure you’d prefer them to “Extreme Maga” Republicans and support them given the opportunity.

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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3526 on: December 04, 2023, 07:12:37 PM »
I give Hilary Clinton credit for stating the obvious and torching the progressive left in her party.  Not a good look rom Primila on CNN. 

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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3527 on: December 04, 2023, 07:53:25 PM »
What has come out (from Hamas videos) regarding the level of violence and gang raping of women and children is enough to make me rethink the magnitude of hard power I would use against Hamas terrorists and all Iranian proxies.  Their laughing during these disgusting acts would turn to expressions of excruciating pain and horror in seconds, and unlike anything they can possibly imagine.  It would make scenes from Goodfellas, Taken, The Equalizer, etc, seem like a trip to a botanical garden.  These people are the utter the filth  of the earth and deserve unconscionable pain before darkness.

I look forward to your commentary of the sexual assault and rape of Palestinian women by the IDF over the years. Documented by human rights groups, of course.

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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3528 on: December 04, 2023, 07:55:48 PM »
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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3529 on: December 04, 2023, 07:57:45 PM »
I look forward to your commentary of the sexual assault and rape of Palestinian women by the IDF over the years. Documented by human rights groups, of course.

Really?  It will be a boldfaced lie if that's reported. 

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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3530 on: December 04, 2023, 09:27:11 PM »
Really?  It will be a boldfaced lie if that's reported.

You do know that atrocities can be committed by more than one side in a conf… you know what nevermind.

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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3531 on: December 04, 2023, 09:44:16 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/04/business/some-traders-appear-to-have-anticipated-october-7-hamas-attack-research-finds/index.html

This is despicable if true. Apparently some traders were aware of an impending massive attack on Israel, and instead of warning anyone, took an opportunity to profit.

They need to investigate who these entities are.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2023, 10:46:58 PM by forgetful »

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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3532 on: December 04, 2023, 11:16:19 PM »
You’ve never had the chance because none have run in your district. I’m sure you’d prefer them to “Extreme Maga” Republicans and support them given the opportunity.

I appreciate you making your first point twice for some reason, and then adding a falsehood for a second sentence.

I have voted for numerous Republicans, including Reagan, Bush Sr., both Republicans who ran against Blagojevich, former NC governor Pat McCrory, and literally dozens of GOP candidates for local offices. I would have voted for Kasich in 2016 had the GOP not lost its collective mind, and he would have been a very good president. And when I haven't been able to stand either candidate in a race, I've voted third party.

So don't be "sure" when you don't really know about something, Tony. You're not a Scoop dentist; you're better than that.

I wouldn't have voted for Tlaib - period. If I was in her district and she ran against an "Extreme Maga" Republican, I'd have voted third party or not selected a candidate at all. Unlike the dentists and perhaps some others hypocrites here, I don't vote for antisemites or those who publicly solicit support from antisemites.

Our Mequon dentist friend calls fellow Scoopers he doesn't know antisemites even as he supports a politician who dines with white supremacists - people who would be happy to see Jews cease to exist. That's something we're both "sure" of, so I suggest you lecture him.
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Not A Serious Person

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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3533 on: Today at 01:11:56 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/04/business/some-traders-appear-to-have-anticipated-october-7-hamas-attack-research-finds/index.html

This is despicable if true. Apparently some traders were aware of an impending massive attack on Israel, and instead of warning anyone, took an opportunity to profit.

They need to investigate who these entities are.

Or it was Hamas, or the Iranians, or some other entity that was planning the attack that did the shorting. Why do you assume it was Israelis who allowed this to happen for profit?

There is precedence for this idea.

On the Chicago Board Options Exchange during the week before September 11th, put options were purchased on American and United Airlines, the two airlines involved in the attacks. The investors who placed these orders were gambling that in the short term the stock prices of both Airlines would plummet.
https://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/hearings/hearing1/witness_kleinberg.htm

And the speculation was ...
Did Bin Laden Short The Market?
https://www.forbes.com/2001/09/18/0918terrorists.html?sh=222c651f1f8b

They were never able to pin down who did these trades. So, this lives on as one of the Great Conspiracy theories of all time. And it was part of Showtimes's "Billions," where they hinted the lead character, hedge fund billionaire Bobby Axelrod, made his fortune shorting the airlines before 9/11, and someone "who knew" told him about it.
(By the way, the hedge fund character in this show was heavily influenced by Bill Ackman, among others)
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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3534 on: Today at 03:35:54 AM »
I appreciate you making your first point twice for some reason, and then adding a falsehood for a second sentence.

I have voted for numerous Republicans, including Reagan, Bush Sr., both Republicans who ran against Blagojevich, former NC governor Pat McCrory, and literally dozens of GOP candidates for local offices. I would have voted for Kasich in 2016 had the GOP not lost its collective mind, and he would have been a very good president. And when I haven't been able to stand either candidate in a race, I've voted third party.

So don't be "sure" when you don't really know about something, Tony. You're not a Scoop dentist; you're better than that.

I wouldn't have voted for Tlaib - period. If I was in her district and she ran against an "Extreme Maga" Republican, I'd have voted third party or not selected a candidate at all. Unlike the dentists and perhaps some others hypocrites here, I don't vote for antisemites or those who publicly solicit support from antisemites.

Our Mequon dentist friend calls fellow Scoopers he doesn't know antisemites even as he supports a politician who dines with white supremacists - people who would be happy to see Jews cease to exist. That's something we're both "sure" of, so I suggest you lecture him.


Thanks for including me in your rant. But, no one needs to "lecture" me with their spin doctor jargon. I can cut through the bullchit myself as my Marquette education serves me well. Apparently, not everyone here can.
As for your votin' record, I assume you checked da box for da Buffoon...'nough said, aina?
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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3535 on: Today at 06:16:03 AM »

Thanks for including me in your rant. But, no one needs to "lecture" me with their spin doctor jargon. I can cut through the bullchit myself as my Marquette education serves me well. Apparently, not everyone here can.
As for your votin' record, I assume you checked da box for da Buffoon...'nough said, aina?

  buffoon??  how about the "big guy" not paying his "fair share" for the millions he and his syndicate bribed from foreign sources? 
don't...don't don't don't don't

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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3536 on: Today at 06:40:34 AM »
  buffoon??  how about the "big guy" not paying his "fair share" for the millions he and his syndicate bribed from foreign sources?

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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3537 on: Today at 07:29:53 AM »
4.5 out of 10

He kind of mailed that in.

Anyway if Scoop has taught me anything it’s that the quality of our Dental School is pretty poor.
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« Reply #3538 on: Today at 07:33:46 AM »
Next time you have a toothache, call a plumber, hey?
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« Reply #3539 on: Today at 08:55:31 AM »

Thanks for including me in your rant. But, no one needs to "lecture" me with their spin doctor jargon. I can cut through the bullchit myself as my Marquette education serves me well. Apparently, not everyone here can.
As for your votin' record, I assume you checked da box for da Buffoon...'nough said, aina?

So, you will keep ardently supporting those who give aid to and accept aid from antisemites. You are comfortable being Scoop's single biggest hypocrite on this issue.

'Nough said.
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« Reply #3540 on: Today at 08:56:36 AM »
Next time you have a toothache, call a plumber, hey?


My dentist is Canadian, so I’ve got it covered.
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Re: Israel is at War
« Reply #3541 on: Today at 09:03:21 AM »

My dentist is Canadian, so I’ve got it covered.

JWags85

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« Reply #3542 on: Today at 09:21:56 AM »
And it was part of Showtimes's "Billions," where they hinted the lead character, hedge fund billionaire Bobby Axelrod, made his fortune shorting the airlines before 9/11, and someone "who knew" told him about it.
(By the way, the hedge fund character in this show was heavily influenced by Bill Ackman, among others)

Heavily influenced and based off of Steve Cohen, according to show creators.  The Ackman was just internet nerds speculating based on his initials and Axelrod/Ackman

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« Reply #3543 on: Today at 09:35:51 AM »
I uncovered that monstrosity of a post trying to find the link, so I could read what Ackerman said.

Funny thing is, Ackerman claims to be a free speech absolutist. He criticizes Harvard for two cases, both of which, Harvard made zero actions to fire or sanction the professors. Instead, they received vocal criticism from people that disagreed with them. That is part of what free speech is. You are not protected from people vehemently disagreeing and criticizing your statement.

The reason I find it funny/hypocritical. Is according to his own essay, what Ackerman wants, is to BAN people from saying things he disagrees with on campus, and CANCEL them if they say things that he disagrees with. But wants there to be no criticisms or canceling of people he does AGREE with. In other words, he wants to abolish free speech at Harvard.

Typical hypocrite, who will possibly stop sending money to Harvard, but will suck up to Musk (clearly believes in anti-semitic tropes) because he wants to make money off Twitter.

Sad.

Yep. Ackman's not unique, he's just loud. Yet another person who thinks free speech means that he and those he agrees with can say whatever they want without criticism but those they disagree with should be silenced with threats of expulsion, suspension, arrest, and canceling.

Criticize protestors all you want. Many of them have said things that are despicable, hateful, and antisemitic over the past two months. Hell, form counterprotests to counter the protesters. But Ackman and his disciples attacking universities for following the constitution is just a convenient opportunity to wage a culture war.
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« Reply #3544 on: Today at 12:46:33 PM »

My dentist is Canadian, so I’ve got it covered.



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« Reply #3545 on: Today at 01:14:38 PM »
Lloyd Austin recent comments:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/civilians-are-center-gravity-gaza-war-us-defense-secretary-2023-12-02/

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"So I have repeatedly made clear to Israel's leaders that protecting Palestinian civilians in Gaza is both a moral responsibility and strategic imperative."