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brewcity77

Quote from: Sir Lawrence on May 22, 2019, 07:30:19 PM
I'm curious:  in several threads on this topic there have been references to the number of players in the "portal."  When does the portal typically clear out?  Is there a time frame for when most season end transfers are set?

It's definitely an inexact science. I think most guys have their destinations set by early June so they can get on campus if they are taking any summer classes. Guys that aren't taking summer classes can stretch that decision into July or August, but that's far less common. And as some players transfer and never find a landing spot (whether due to giving up the sport, pursuing professional playing options, or just joining the workforce) the portal never really clears out.

Sorry for what, looking at it, feels like a pretty crap answer. That said, I do think we are getting pretty late into the transfer process.

NickelDimer

No Finish Line

GOO

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 23, 2019, 07:15:36 AM
It's definitely an inexact science. I think most guys have their destinations set by early June so they can get on campus if they are taking any summer classes. Guys that aren't taking summer classes can stretch that decision into July or August, but that's far less common. And as some players transfer and never find a landing spot (whether due to giving up the sport, pursuing professional playing options, or just joining the workforce) the portal never really clears out.

Sorry for what, looking at it, feels like a pretty crap answer. That said, I do think we are getting pretty late into the transfer process.

If I remember correctly, Crean had a player from Minnesota that was injured, rehabbed on MU's dime, took summer classes at MU, and then a day or two before the fall semester started, transferred to a another school (Miami?). 

MU82

Quote from: Research Report on May 22, 2019, 10:08:40 PM
I was comparing Ed Morrow's situation to Traci's, since you brought up Morrow and Nebraska fans.  Morrow didn't grow up in Nebraska, wasn't a highly rated recruit, played a couple solid if unremarkable seasons for the Huskers, and transferred.  Much like Traci did for us.

There's obviously a lot more emotion involved with the Hausers since they were big name players (relatively speaking) who grew up in state.  Sam in particular was an indispensable player his whole time on campus and was trending toward that Lazar/Novak/Diener/JFB level.  Not an all-time great but second or third tier, for sure.

Short story long, I don't think Koby's and Ed's former fanbases really care anymore that they transferred.  Would we boo Haanif if he came back to play against us?

First, I sincerely apologize for mis-stating the intention of your post. For some reason I thought you were talking about the Hausers, so I apologize, as I never want to misrepresent what anybody else says.

And I agree with your thesis.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

cheebs09

Quote from: GOO on May 23, 2019, 09:14:44 AM
If I remember correctly, Crean had a player from Minnesota that was injured, rehabbed on MU's dime, took summer classes at MU, and then a day or two before the fall semester started, transferred to a another school (Miami?).

That was Mbakwe. He left right before the school year of Buzz's first year, but was recruited by Crean and planned to redshirt due to injury, but played later in the year.

MU82

Quote from: avid1010 on May 23, 2019, 05:51:14 AM
I wasn't asking your permission for anything.  Just pointing out a serious concern that while Wojo repeatedly discussed the need for Markus to better distribute the ball...Markus never did so.  When you use the word "bail"...and you've said much worse about the Hauser's...you have to wonder who is really at fault.

I had a guy working for me that was extremely dedicated to the profession and great at his job...couldn't get along with others because it had to be about him.  I lost a solid employee because he was sick of the guy...and it was plain to see as a team they weren't functioning at their full potential and others were going to leave as well.  He was shown the door and the collective output increased.  Wished I could have gotten the guy to see past himself...would have been better for his pocket book and everyone else's.

We will all be rooting for MU.  Should I say God bless America after every post as well?

Glad you will be rooting for MU. No need to invoke a religious song after your posts unless you want to.

As for who is "at fault," unlike some I truly believe there is plenty of blame to go around.

The story line that the angelic, totally unselfish Hausers came to dislike and distrust Wojo while actually remaining friendly with Markus but were willing to stay and play for the coach they disliked and distrusted as long as their friend left ... sorry, but that tale has more plot holes than GoT Season 8.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

GOO

Quote from: cheebs09 on May 23, 2019, 09:24:08 AM
That was Mbakwe. He left right before the school year of Buzz's first year, but was recruited by Crean and planned to redshirt due to injury, but played later in the year.

Thanks, that is him, of course.  Wasn't it literally like a day or two before the fall semester was going to begin and he just blindsided everyone with the transfer.  That was a bit of a blow for a team that was already undersized.

Silent Verbal

Quote from: MU82 on May 23, 2019, 09:16:27 AM
First, I sincerely apologize for mis-stating the intention of your post. For some reason I thought you were talking about the Hausers, so I apologize, as I never want to misrepresent what anybody else says.

And I agree with your thesis.

No worries!  There's been so much gobbledygook posted in different threads about mostly the same stuff (some of it by me) that it gets tough to keep track of who's talking about what.

Actually, I never thanked you for your excellent and detailed breakdown of Koby's games against high majors (or rather his lack thereof) in response to my question about it a few weeks ago.  So, mea culpas all around!

lawdog77

Quote from: GOO on May 23, 2019, 09:30:12 AM
Thanks, that is him, of course.  Wasn't it literally like a day or two before the fall semester was going to begin and he just blindsided everyone with the transfer.  That was a bit of a blow for a team that was already undersized.
Invoking the name of the Great Mbakwe shall cause great harm to us all!

Jay Bee

The portal is NOT closed.

We R Final Four

#510
Not sure where to put this...watching volleyball Final Four UW v Baylor.
Going to commercial break, saw this guy in the crowd. Strange situation cheering for your girlfriend wearing a Bucky shirt...and everyone in the crowd is disappointed in your decision.

4everwarriors

Sum dudes'll due anythin' four a peace of ass, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Herman Cain

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 19, 2019, 08:39:52 PM
Sum dudes'll due anythin' four a peace of ass, hey?
I agree with this analysis.
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Mutaman

Quote from: We R Final Four on December 19, 2019, 08:25:22 PM
Not sure where to put this...watching volleyball Final Four UW v Baylor.
Going to commercial break, saw this guy in the crowd. Strange situation cheering for your girlfriend wearing a Bucky shirt...and everyone in the crowd is disappointed in your decision.

Giannis v LeBron and you're watching a  volleyball game?

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Mutaman on December 19, 2019, 10:11:14 PM
Giannis v LeBron and you're watching a  volleyball game?

Paint drying and you're watching an NBA game?

Mutaman

Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 19, 2019, 10:12:58 PM
Paint drying and you're watching an NBA game?

Supporting Wesley (who was superb tonight).

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: We R Final Four on December 19, 2019, 08:25:22 PM
Not sure where to put this...watching volleyball Final Four UW v Baylor.
Going to commercial break, saw this guy in the crowd. Strange situation cheering for your girlfriend wearing a Bucky shirt...and everyone in the crowd is disappointed in your decision.

Nothing strange about that. His GF is going to the NCAA finals. And who is disappointed that he's cheering for his GF?
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 19, 2019, 10:29:16 PM
Nothing strange about that. His GF is going to the NCAA finals. And who is disappointed that he's cheering for his GF?

ya gotta give SH some credit here-nice girl, very bright, great family, good people.  sam shoulda stayed, let his lil bro air his dirty laundry somewhere else, as he has.  the way UVA's offense(or lack thereof) is set up, sam will be lucky to get 8-10 shots per game.  they are currently averaging 54 points per game as a team.  he may win there, but if he planned on getting more good looks sans a poy candidate, not sure this was the place to go. 
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

MU82

Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 20, 2019, 08:33:38 AM
the way UVA's offense(or lack thereof) is set up, sam will be lucky to get 8-10 shots per game.  they are currently averaging 54 points per game as a team.  he may win there, but if he planned on getting more good looks sans a poy candidate, not sure this was the place to go.

Agree with this comment. Virginia is a strange place to go for a guy looking for more scoring opportunities to impress NBA scouts. He absolutely would have gotten more shots this season with our boyz.

Then again, NBA scouts are impressed by other stuff, too. So if Sam just plays his game he'll be OK. Borderline prospect, anyway, but I do still think he'll get a serious look.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld

Quote from: MU82 on December 20, 2019, 08:54:40 AM
Agree with this comment. Virginia is a strange place to go for a guy looking for more scoring opportunities to impress NBA scouts. He absolutely would have gotten more shots this season with our boyz.

Then again, NBA scouts are impressed by other stuff, too. So if Sam just plays his game he'll be OK. Borderline prospect, anyway, but I do still think he'll get a serious look.

Come on now.  The men who love to eat meat of MUScoop have told us they didn't care about their own shots.  They wanted more equal distribution for the likes of Theo John, Ed Morrow, Jamal Cain, etc.

Having said that, UVA players had no problem getting enough shots to be noticed by NBA scouts last year.  Winning puts you in the spotlight for those scouts to find you.

NCMUFan

Time will tell if the transfers were a good decision for the Hauser boys.

Coleman

Sam's reasons for transferring are known to him, and him alone. No one here can tell him whether or not it was a good decision, because no one here knows his motivations and priorities. I wish Sam, and Joey, the best.

Losing players to transfers sucks, but it is the reality of college basketball. Guys who play four years at one school are becoming the exception, not the rule.

We R Final Four

Quote from: Mutaman on December 19, 2019, 10:11:14 PM
Giannis v LeBron and you're watching a  volleyball game?
Wake me when it's June.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Mutaman on December 19, 2019, 10:11:14 PM
Giannis v LeBron and you're watching a  volleyball game?

high level, every entertaining athletics, a team MU beat, the final four. Heck yes I was.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

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