Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Is IU's kok still in chicos mouth with Crean gone?

[dw3dw3dw3]

Really think you need to look to urban dictionary for this one.  Top answer for "goon" there is:

goon:
a real man or nigga
originated in flordia
"told her i was a goon and she went for it" -plies(shawty)

I feel like the old lady on Airplane! who spoke jive.

Probably just referring to Stan's work, but I have heard of schools employing non-basketball people to recruit an area.  Much like someone would come to your high school from BigU admissions to give you the recruiting pitch on a school. Except these admissions people are knowledgeable in a particular sport and tend to focus on schools where highly coveted recruits go. Slippery slope, but sort of like claiming a business lunch, as long as you justify it nobody would challenge you to the legitimacy of your conversation. Not saying that's going on here, but wouldn't surprise me if MU was using every legal loophole to it's advantage.

[Lennys Tap]

You gotta wonder if he does that on purpose, because he is a freakin' hilarious guy.  The jokes he told at the last MU basketball banquet he attended had people laughing so hard, they were wiping tears from their eyes.

+1 I think the dour, down in the dumps "look" is part of his comic persona. The guy is hilarious.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/goon
2 a :a man hired to terrorize or eliminate opponents
b :enforcer 2b

[DCHoopster]

That is a great memory pic, that guy was a "goon"!

[muguru]

I find the things that have happened since Grimes's visit to be fascinating. I mean I'm sure there have been plenty of instances through the years of an entire Coaching staff going to see a recruit after returning from his final visit, but THE day after is what I find curious. Even more curious is the fact that the very day after the Coaching staff visited him at his school, they went and saw Herro who is almost exactly the same size, and plays the same position as Grimes. Do you do that if you are sure you have QG's commitment??

Then, you have Kentucky and Texas Coaching staffs coming in this week as well. Yet, conspicuous by their absence is the MU Coaching staff..Now granted, they may well go visit next week, or heck even this weekend, but as of yet they haven't. It's like the other three staffs suddenly caught wind of something, and immediately flew out to Texas shortly after. I find that peculiar.

I get one final pitch before signing day..but the timing of it, where the other 3 staffs were in the VERY same week..seems odd to me. There's a couple weeks to go before signing day, so did it HAVE to be this week they visited?? Seems rushed for some reason if you ask me.

I think we will be able to tell a lot of the MU staffs activity in the upcoming week..if they go see QG, obviously they could be meaningless as all the other staffs did the same, however if they DON'T go see him, that could be VERY telling. It will be interesting to watch.

[Dawson Rental]

Has not having NBA players in the same city hurt KU, UK, UNC, Duke, Gonzaga, Michigan State, Wisconsin, and most of the top 25 because they can't scrimmage with a NBA player?  Instead, they tend to do it with their future NBA teammates.

That not a con argument about being in a city with an NBA team (you said being in an NBA city could be arged either as a pro or a con) that's just noting that most schools that are lucky enough to be located in an NBA city have not been smart enough to utilize it as they could have. 

[Dawson Rental]

This is interesting

https://twitter.com/bigsloan32/status/922946523813396480

The Goonies 'r' Good Enough

[We R Final Four]

Yes when he knocks us out of the running . 

Jeenathan may not decide until the late period and our circumstance may change as well.

In the meantime enjoy:

https://twitter.com/NewRecruitMedia/status/893589460650270720

https://twitter.com/jeenathanw11?lang=en

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I find the things that have happened since Grimes's visit to be fascinating. I mean I'm sure there have been plenty of instances through the years of an entire Coaching staff going to see a recruit after returning from his final visit, but THE day after is what I find curious. Even more curious is the fact that the very day after the Coaching staff visited him at his school, they went and saw Herro who is almost exactly the same size, and plays the same position as Grimes. Do you do that if you are sure you have QG's commitment??

Then, you have Kentucky and Texas Coaching staffs coming in this week as well. Yet, conspicuous by their absence is the MU Coaching staff..Now granted, they may well go visit next week, or heck even this weekend, but as of yet they haven't. It's like the other three staffs suddenly caught wind of something, and immediately flew out to Texas shortly after. I find that peculiar.

I get one final pitch before signing day..but the timing of it, where the other 3 staffs were in the VERY same week..seems odd to me. There's a couple weeks to go before signing day, so did it HAVE to be this week they visited?? Seems rushed for some reason if you ask me.

I think we will be able to tell a lot of the MU staffs activity in the upcoming week..if they go see QG, obviously they could be meaningless as all the other staffs did the same, however if they DON'T go see him, that could be VERY telling. It will be interesting to watch.

Your wasting WAY TOO MUCH energy trying to read into this.

[wadesworld]

Your wasting WAY TOO MUCH energy trying to read into this.

Yup.  The kid has kept everything close to the vest and is nearing a decision.  He's not going to start giving away tell tale signs now.  Each school is pushing hard to get a commitment from him but he'll commit when he's ready to do so, which sounds like it could be in about 2-3 weeks.  Who's coming in and with how many coaches means something, but nobody really knows what it means except for that staff and him and his family.

[cheebs09]

There's a limit on inhome visits and Marquette already used one recently after another visit. Even if MU wanted to visit, I'm not sure they could. Plus, he was just with the coaches for a weekend. I don't know what else they'd say.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I like that we'll probably be last in these "all hands on deck" TX visits too. No doubt in my mind that Wojo & Co. will make another trip to close. Bring those good thoughts he had from the official visit back to the top of mind, and reiterate that everything they've said about his being our top and only priority for '18 while all these other coaches continue to chase PG/2Gs elsewhere.

[Silkk the Shaka]

There's a limit on inhome visits and Marquette already used one recently after another visit. Even if MU wanted to visit, I'm not sure they could. Plus, he was just with the coaches for a weekend. I don't know what else they'd say.

Interesting... I'd like to thing they kept one in the back pocket for post-official.

[muguru]

Your wasting WAY TOO MUCH energy trying to read into this.

I respectfully disagree...I want MU to return to Elite status so damn bad...and this would be a HUGE step in that direction. It's pretty important to ME.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I respectfully disagree...I want MU to return to Elite status so damn bad...and this would be a HUGE step in that direction. It's pretty important to ME.

Same! bring on the over-analysis!

[DCHoopster]

I respectfully disagree...I want MU to return to Elite status so damn bad...and this would be a HUGE step in that direction. It's pretty important to ME.

This is like the moment of turning a program around,  ala George Thompson for Al.  but in this era it is not the same, as if this kid is that good a one and done helps the
program for 2018, thats it.  The timing for Wojo is perfect as the team will have a solid team for him to play with.  MU it seems is not running around the country looking at many players but this one.  He fits in perfectly with Marcus, and the Hausers.  At Kentucky or Kansas, they will be loaded no matter if he comes or not.  Ask Charles
Mathews about that.  They have 8 new recruits at Kentucky, reports state that many are not one and done players.  He will still sign 5 more players, his style.  Kansas
is full just like MU.  I would think the Kansas players are a tad better than we have, just makes sense.  New arena,  NBA city, never know what a kid is thinking but why
not?? 

[tower912]

MU is out on JW.   Once Joey signed the only focus is QG....

Mic drop

[Marcus92]

There are plenty of reasons why Grimes's recruitment has sparked so much attention, analysis and angst on this board:

1) Quentin's Top 10 ranking naturally attracts a brighter spotlight;
2) He could be just the player the MU program needs to take the next step;
3) We're up against the best of the best in programs like Kansas and Kentucky;
4) Unlike Henry Ellenson, there's no local connection.

A lot of these same points applied to Markus Howard's recruitment — except he was ranked outside the Top 50. (At #71 RSCI, the national experts clearly underestimated his talent.)

[Galway Eagle]

There are plenty of reasons why Grimes's recruitment has sparked so much attention, analysis and angst on this board:

1) Quentin's Top 10 ranking naturally attracts a brighter spotlight;
2) He could be just the player the MU program needs to take the next step;
3) We're up against the best of the best in programs like Kansas and Kentucky;
4) Unlike Henry Ellenson, there's no local connection.

A lot of these same points applied to Markus Howard's recruitment — except he was ranked outside the Top 50. (At #71 RSCI, the national experts clearly underestimated his talent.)

What was he ranked for his class? I thought he was a top 50 or better but dropped because of the reclassifying

[Nukem2]

What was he ranked for his class? I thought he was a top 50 or better but dropped because of the reclassifying

Yes, believe he was about upper 30s in his class.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Yes, believe he was about upper 30s in his class.

I think he may have been in the top 30 in ESPN, IIRC.

[Goose]

Signing of Grimes is a game changer if it happens. Wojo & Co have invested all they can/could on landing him and a swing and miss would be tough for him to handle. IMO, this will be watershed moment for Wojo's career at MU. If he lands him, he might be off to building something here. If he misses, it could have the Rick/Joe W affect on him.

[Nukem2]

Signing of Grimes is a game changer if it happens. Wojo & Co have invested all they can/could on landing him and a swing and miss would be tough for him to handle. IMO, this will be watershed moment for Wojo's career at MU. If he lands him, he might be off to building something here. If he misses, it could have the Rick/Joe W affect on him.

Seriously doubt that.  The Majerus / Wolf situation was far more personal over a longer period of time.

[Marcus92]

I think he may have been in the top 30 in ESPN, IIRC.

My point was that there's a big difference between Top 10 and Top 30/Top 50 prospects. The early-season matchup between Henry Ellenson and Ben Simmons got national attention — even though neither MU nor LSU were nationally ranked.