Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[Pakuni]

Jamil

Where is the world ending? By no means does a miss mean Wojo cannot have success. Simply, he may decide that recruiting against bluebloods is tough battle and better left undone. Not sure how that makes the world ending.

If Grimes chooses Marquette, it probably means Self and Calipari will stop recruiting against Big East schools.

[esotericmindguy]

If anyone remembers, a similar situation is what finally led to Crean leaving MU...the failure to land Iman Shumpert after recruiting him longer/harder then just about anyone was the straw that broke the camels back for TC...and made him leave for IU.

Then went to Indiana and found out it was the school, it was him.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Then went to Indiana and found out it was the school, it was him.

Chicos' breathless rebuttal in 5...4...3...

[muguru]

Ridiculous.......as usual people are way over the top.on 1 player.

Wojo will continue to recruit the best players that he thinks he can get. Reread  Big Daddys post regarding how the staff handles recruiting.

If losing 1 player alters your strategy you are in the wrong business.

Hopefully we get him......I have my doubts that we will....but you people are setting yourself up for despair if we miss.......it's a ridiculous way to approach recruiting from a fan perspective .For Gods sake chill out. We already got our top target for this class.........if we miss we miss.....still going to,have a talented roster next season and beyond.

Mark, I know you are one that doesn't believe MU can be elite, and are content with whatever results the program has under Wojo. That's your prerogative and no one can/will hold that against you. But I KNOW you were around when Crean lost Shumpert, and what that led him to do/believe. I do BELIEVE MU can become elite again(and I want that more than anything), and landing a 5 star OUT OF STATE recruit can go a long ways towards that. If not during QG's time at MU, but that then likely opens the door to other out of state 5 stars giving MU a long look and committing. It's the residual effects.You beat out UK, KU for a recruit, it sends a message to the rest of CBB, and that is important.

A talented roster?? No doubt about it...National Championship good?? I don't see it.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

While I don't think it's what will happen, I don't think Goose's position is unreasonable. Think about it. Wojo has thrown everything at this kid. What seems like dozens of visits (4 coaches deep), I'm sure maximum texts and calls, promising him the keys from day one, an official visit that supposedly went perfectly with celebrity appearances, by all reports a great relationship with the kid and his parents, 5 star PGs committing to the main competition....if after all of that, Wojo still can't get Grimes to Marquette, it's not unreasonable to think that Wojo might start to look at Marquette and think "does the school offer enough to get elite out of state kids to come play here?".

I don't think this happens because I think Wojo would be the first to tell you that while Marquette offers a lot as it is, we have a ways to go before we reach our full potential. I think Wojo has the patience to stick around and continue to build the program so even if he doesn't get this out of state 5-star, he will be able to get one down the line....and eventually start to get them regularly.

[Galway Eagle]

While I don't think it's what will happen, I don't think Goose's position is unreasonable. Think about it. Wojo has thrown everything at this kid. What seems like dozens of visits (4 coaches deep), I'm sure maximum texts and calls, promising him the keys from day one, an official visit that supposedly went perfectly with celebrity appearances, by all reports a great relationship with the kid and his parents, 5 star PGs committing to the main competition....if after all of that, Wojo still can't get Grimes to Marquette, it's not unreasonable to think that Wojo might start to look at Marquette and think "does the school offer enough to get elite out of state kids to come play here?".

I don't think this happens because I think Wojo would be the first to tell you that while Marquette offers a lot as it is, we have a ways to go before we reach our full potential. I think Wojo has the patience to stick around and continue to build the program so even if he doesn't get this out of state 5-star, he will be able to get one down the line....and eventually start to get them regularly.

I agree 100% had this kids Mom not gone to KU and if Wojo had the prior success that Crean or Buzz had had. I'd still understand all the frustrations but at the end of the day we're talking about a coach with 1 good season to his name against top coaches in CBB.

[Golden Avalanche]

Wojo went after Grimes because he knew the connection. All this hyperbole about it breaking his back is for naught. The deal is done.

[KampusFoods]

Wojo went after Grimes because he knew the connection. All this hyperbole about it breaking his back is for naught. The deal is done.

Says who

[TrevorCandelino]

Wojo went after Grimes because he knew the connection. All this hyperbole about it breaking his back is for naught. The deal is done.

Huh??

[muguru]

This is twice now GA has dropped cryptic messages, yet won't expound on them. Strange.

[RJax55]

While I don't think it's what will happen, I don't think Goose's position is unreasonable. Think about it. Wojo has thrown everything at this kid. What seems like dozens of visits (4 coaches deep), I'm sure maximum texts and calls, promising him the keys from day one, an official visit that supposedly went perfectly with celebrity appearances, by all reports a great relationship with the kid and his parents, 5 star PGs committing to the main competition....if after all of that, Wojo still can't get Grimes to Marquette, it's not unreasonable to think that Wojo might start to look at Marquette and think "does the school offer enough to get elite out of state kids to come play here?".

Well, that's recruiting.

And, while I think Wojo has the program on an upward trajectory, his head-coaching resume is extremely light (massive understatement) compared to the competition here for Grimes. I mean, seriously, Wojo has one NCAA tournament appearance as a HC.

Perhaps because of other coaches leaving, I think MU fans have this complex of wondering is this job good enough. And, while at times I think it is a fair question to ask, I don't think this situation is one. To me, Wojo lacks the resume and success yet to be wondering whether the MU brand/program is holding him back. Maybe he will at one point, but that's not today.

[forgetful]

Crean left, because he didn't think it was worth the effort to fight hard for a player and lose the recruiting battle.  He preferred to go somewhere you could put minimal effort into recruiting and still have success. 

I'd prefer the coach that always wants to fight the hard fight, build success and becomes the program where it is easier to recruit to.

Coach K did that at Duke, and I think Wojo is the same type of person.  It'll suck, but he is not going to back down because of one player going elsewhere.

Remember, Kansas has invested a ton in this recruitment also, does Self say it isn't worth it, if he loses to Wojo?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

This is twice now GA has dropped cryptic messages, yet won't expound on them. Strange.

If I didn't know better, I think he was saying QG to MU #donedeal

[Pakuni]

Crean left, because he didn't think it was worth the effort to fight hard for a player and lose the recruiting battle.  He preferred to go somewhere you could put minimal effort into recruiting and still have success. 

I'd prefer the coach that always wants to fight the hard fight, build success and becomes the program where it is easier to recruit to.

Coach K did that at Duke, and I think Wojo is the same type of person.  It'll suck, but he is not going to back down because of one player going elsewhere.

Remember, Kansas has invested a ton in this recruitment also, does Self say it isn't worth it, if he loses to Wojo?

Crean left because Indiana is a historically better program, with more prestige, deeper pockets, a bigger contract to offer, and a more settled conference situation.
It wasn't because he wanted to put in minimal effort. It wasn't because of Iman Shumphert or Bobby Fraser or any other recruit.
It was because he viewed Indiana as a better job.

[JakeBarnes]

Wojo went after Grimes because he knew the connection. All this hyperbole about it breaking his back is for naught. The deal is done.

#Iamthesource

[GooooMarquette]

Crean left because Indiana is a historically better program, with more prestige, deeper pockets, a bigger contract to offer, and a more settled conference situation.
It wasn't because he wanted to put in minimal effort. It wasn't because of Iman Shumphert or Bobby Fraser or any other recruit.
It was because he viewed Indiana as a better job.

Yep.  And if Wojo ever got an offer from Duke, UNC, UK, KU, UCLA, IU, UL or a couple of other schools, I could understand him leaving too.  He'd likely need to get us to at least one Final Four for that to happen. 

Crean was many things, but lazy was not one of them....

[Galway Eagle]

Yep.  And if Wojo ever got an offer from Duke, UNC, UK, KU, UCLA, IU, UL or a couple of other schools, I could understand him leaving too.  He'd likely need to get us to at least one Final Four for that to happen. 

Crean was many things, but lazy was not one of them....

Wojo would really have to hate us to leave for UNC...

[avid1010]

Crean left, because he didn't think it was worth the effort to fight hard for a player and lose the recruiting battle.  He preferred to go somewhere you could put minimal effort into recruiting and still have success. 

I'd prefer the coach that always wants to fight the hard fight, build success and becomes the program where it is easier to recruit to.

Coach K did that at Duke, and I think Wojo is the same type of person.  It'll suck, but he is not going to back down because of one player going elsewhere.

Remember, Kansas has invested a ton in this recruitment also, does Self say it isn't worth it, if he loses to Wojo?

TC had interest in leaving long before IU...

[Windyplayer]

Perhaps because of other coaches leaving, I think MU fans have this complex of wondering is this job good enough. And, while at times I think it is a fair question to ask, I don't think this situation is one. To me, Wojo lacks the resume and success yet to be wondering whether the MU brand/program is holding him back. Maybe he will at one point, but that's not today.

Usually it's the coach that creates the environment to pull in Mickey D's AA over time, not the school. The school is the chassis, the coach makes the program go vroom.

[TedBaxter]

If being a top 15-20 program with an occasional run to the Elite 8 and even a Final 4 is elite, I'll subscribe. 

[Loose Cannon]

If being a top 15-20 program with an occasional run to the Elite 8 and even a Final 4 is elite, I'll subscribe.

Sounds Good to me.

[muguru]

If being a top 15-20 program with an occasional run to the Elite 8 and even a Final 4 is elite, I'll subscribe.

C'mon Ted..thats not setting the bar very high, and to me at least..that isnt elite.

[TedBaxter]

So you want what Al did from 1969-77?

[Goose]

Ted

Lofty, but realistic, expectations. I would be quite happy with that type of program.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Wojo went after Grimes because he knew the connection. All this hyperbole about it breaking his back is for naught. The deal is done.

2nd time you've said this. Hope you're right.