Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[Lennys Tap]

Top 170 player in Value Add with almost 8 points per game including defense. I would say he would be a major upgrade over Katin and Haani at the wing.

http://www.valueaddbasketball.com

He was #168 in value added. As a reference point, Luke was our #1 in value added at around #215. Rowsey (#262) was our only other player in the top 300. He would effectively replacing Katin R., who checked in at #807.

So by the numbers this guy would be a huge get.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Personally, I'd rather have Al Freeman from Baylor. We could use a pure defensive stopper. The offense was fun this year, but I want someone who can shut guys down.

True. But imagine this.  Egor was three  3PAs from qualifying for the NCAA leaderboard for 3P%. If he had,  he would have been #3 in the country with 71 makes....can you imagine having the #1 and #3 most accurate the point shooters in the country on the same team.....not to mention adding Rowsey  and Hauser. Torrid would be an understatement.

I do like Freeman. His defense is exactly what we were missing this year.  But that game suspension.... At one of the dirtiest programs in the country.... Makes me nervous.

[swoopem]

Thanks all. I'm liking what I'm reading about Egor. I really hope he's the second guy that Big Daddy referenced.

[Tha Hound]

Personally, I'd rather have Al Freeman from Baylor. We could use a pure defensive stopper. The offense was fun this year, but I want someone who can shut guys down.

Al and Egor would make next years team look very, very good. Markus/Rowsey at the 1, Al at 2, Egor at 3, Sam at 4, Froling/John at 5. Height, shooting, and big time added D. Would be a dream come true

[Galway Eagle]

Al and Egor would make next years team look very, very good. Markus/Rowsey at the 1, Al at 2, Egor at 3, Sam at 4, Froling/John at 5. Height, shooting, and big time added D. Would be a dream come true

You think Heldt would be third man at the 5? umm... after the way he ended the year I think most would disagree

[muguru]

Personally, I'd rather have Al Freeman from Baylor. We could use a pure defensive stopper. The offense was fun this year, but I want someone who can shut guys down.

That's the beauty of having 3 open spots...You can take both Freeman ANS Koulechov and Elliott. I want both Freeman and Koulechov.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Give me Koulechov or give me death

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I like our recruiting experts here on Scoop who already have decided that Marquette can do much better than Greg Elliott.

I don't know how good Elliott will be because I don't pretend to be an expert. But I do know that Tom Izzo likes (or at least liked) him enough to make an offer and bring him in recently for an official visit, during which several MSU players let it be known that they really want him to be their teammate.

I'm thinking that if Izzo wants him, I want him, too.

But I do allow that Tom Izzo probably isn't as good a judge of basketball talent as some random, anonymous interwebs yahoos are.

I am nowhere near a recruiting expert, but I have said that I won't be too upset if Elliot goes elsewhere.  Its not that I don't want him, there are just a good bit of a guys that are available that I'd rather have.  If those ships sail, by all means I'd welcome Elliot with open arms (I hate burning scholarships), but he just isn't my #1 choice with one of our 3 openings.  If he commits this week, as I think is basically expected at this point, I will certainly be happy.  It's not like I want nothing to do with the kid, he looks like a very nice prospect. 

However, there are plenty of scenarios I would prefer with our three scholarships including any combination of (sorta kinda quickly thrown together in order of preference):

-Egor Koulechov (grad)
-Al Freeman (grad)
-Jemarl Baker (freshman)
-Ed Morrow (transfer)
-Mike Lewis III (transfer)
-Marques Bolden (transfer)
-Tevin Mack (transfer)
-Noah Dickerson (transfer)
-Sean Obi (grad)
-Isiaha Mike (transfer)
-Cameron Johnson (grad)
-Clifton Moore (freshman)
-Josh Nebo (transfer)
-Steven Enoch (transfer)
-Mike Weathers (transfer)
-Mikey Dixon (transfer)

**Note - I am not saying MU has been tied to all of these players. They are just simply guys that I in my wholly untrained recruiting eye would probably prefer over Elliot. Again, I don't mean this is as a negative towards GE.  I am just explaining why I have said I wouldn't be too torn up if he chose MSU.**

[RubyWiscy]

If those ships sail, by all means I'd welcome Elliot with open arms

LOL - "I'd love to go to the dance with you, but do you mind if I wait and see if any of the pretty girls in class ask me before I say yes?"

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

LOL - "I'd love to go to the dance with you, but do you mind if I wait and see if any of the pretty girls in class ask me before I say yes?"

Kinda how recruiting works. But, like I said, I am sure that the offer to Elliot is open for him to take until it isn't, so I doubt that is how Wojo & Co. are dealing with it.

[brewcity77]

Could we *take* both Egor and Freeman? Yes. Could we *land* both Egor and Freeman? I highly doubt it.

We are returning Anim, Cheatham, Sam, and adding Cain to the 2/3 positions. We are likely to add Elliott in the coming days. Further, our staff has shown a tendency to play Howard and Rowsey together. Now an incoming grad transfer may look at that and say "whatever, I'm better than those guys" and come anyway, but to land one and then have another say "yeah, I'll beat all them out and the grad senior they just took at my same position" when there are probably dozens of other schools with less competition? That's just silly.

If we land two grad transfers, it would be at clearly different positions. A pure point and a wing, a wing and a big, but not two of the same. Anyone being honest with themselves will know looking at our current roster that simply isn't happening.

With that in mind, I value Freeman and his defense. No, he's not the scorer Koulechov was at Rice, but he did pretty well at Baylor, is good offensively, and can shoot the three. I'd rather a shut-down defender knowing that we won't get both (and anyone that thinks we realistically could is being delusional).

As far as traditional transfers, I wouldn't want any transfer that has to sit out unless he is a point guard. We NEED to have someone who can play the point other than Markus when Rowsey leaves. If it doesn't come with one of these three scholarships this year, we need an opening next year. Rowsey's scholarship is already taken by Bailey, and a grad transfer would (hopefully) be taken by Joey.

If we get Elliott, then one of those remaining two scholarships has to go to a point, either this year or next, which means no one like Bolden, Morrow, Dickerson, or even Cameron Johnson (two year grad). We need a scholarship for Joey and we need a point guard.

And I know that guys transfer and scholarships can become available, but sometimes they also don't become available, and I'm not a fan of running someone off to make room for someone else.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Brew, that is kind of why I feel like Elliot is superfluous.  I'd much rather get Egor or Freeman, Mike Lewis (combo guard that can play the point; there are a few other similar options out there) and Ed Morrow.

Also, without knowing Egor's game all that much, I think we could play him at the 4, and definitely the 3.  Freeman is a 2G. But I agree there is definitely some overlap. 

A guy like Sean Obi (if healthy) and Egor or Freeman would make some sense. Then fill then last spot with BPA, whether that be Elliot, or a PG transfer, or someone else.

[TedBaxter]

As I've said many times, I'll take Greg Elliott as my priority and if a grad transfer fits after that, fine.  I like the potential of the backcourt with Howard & Elliott.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

As I've said many times, I'll take Greg Elliott as my priority and if a grad transfer fits after that, fine.  I like the potential of the backcourt with Howard & Elliott.

From what we know, pretty sure you'll get your wish in the next couple days .

[GGGG]

I view grad transfers as a short-term solution to fill a need for one year.  Two of them is asking for trouble with chemistry and player development.  This isn't a fantasy team we are talking about.

I would much rather be in a place where you don't need to take graduate transfers.

[Nukem2]

I view grad transfers as a short-term solution to fill a need for one year.  Two of them is asking for trouble with chemistry and player development.  This isn't a fantasy team we are talking about.

I would much rather be in a place where you don't need to take graduate transfers.

Yes.

[brewcity77]

I view grad transfers as a short-term solution to fill a need for one year.  Two of them is asking for trouble with chemistry and player development.  This isn't a fantasy team we are talking about.

I would much rather be in a place where you don't need to take graduate transfers.

I look at Louisville and UConn as examples where 2 can work out. But my main point is if you land Elliott, you have to turn one of the remaining two scholarships into a point guard.

[Marcus92]

You think Heldt would be third man at the 5? umm... after the way he ended the year I think most would disagree

Totally depends on what happens between now and October.

At the end of the 2015-16 season, Traci Carter was #1 on the depth chart as our returning point guard. Rowsey and Howard were complete unknowns. They had to beat out Traci (among others) for playing time.

If we bring in 2 better inside players, or if Froling outplays Matt, or if Theo turns out to be the perfect fit for a 4-out-1-in scheme, or if Ike surprises everyone, it's entirely possibly that Matt could slide down the bench.

[shoothoops]

https://www.prephoops.com/2017/04/torrence-watson-video-3/

2018 target Torrence Watson talks recruiting, includes Marquette.

In video he says he would like to visit Marquette this Spring for the first time. He mentions Wojo and Chris (both being from St. Louis) recruiting him from Marquette. He wants to take visits in August, and make a decision prior to his Senior season.

He had a breakout Junior season, state runner up small schools in MO. Plays with Ramey Jets United AAU.

His list includes Marquette, Vandy, SLU, Mizzou, Butler, Creighton, Iowa St., West Virginia.

[Loose Cannon]

As I've said many times, I'll take Greg Elliott as my priority and if a grad transfer fits after that, fine.  I like the potential of the backcourt with Howard & Elliott.

Yeah I'm in this camp.  I trust Wojo in judging talent and if he was on him early, then I think he's the Guy.

[MUWarrior4Life]

Yeah I'm in this camp.  I trust Wojo in judging talent and if he was on him early, then I think he's the Guy.

Ditto

[GoldenDieners32]

https://www.prephoops.com/2017/04/torrence-watson-video-3/

2018 target Torrence Watson talks recruiting, includes Marquette.

In video he says he would like to visit Marquette this Spring for the first time. He mentions Wojo and Chris (both being from St. Louis) recruiting him from Marquette. He wants to take visits in August, and make a decision prior to his Senior season.

He had a breakout Junior season, state runner up small schools in MO. Plays with Ramey Jets United AAU.

His list includes Marquette, Vandy, SLU, Mizzou, Butler, Creighton, Iowa St., West Virginia.

He would be a great get. Kid is a stud

[MuMark]

He would be a great get. Kid is a stud

Big neck?

[Herman Cain]

I am nowhere near a recruiting expert, but I have said that I won't be too upset if Elliot goes elsewhere.  Its not that I don't want him, there are just a good bit of a guys that are available that I'd rather have.  If those ships sail, by all means I'd welcome Elliot with open arms (I hate burning scholarships), but he just isn't my #1 choice with one of our 3 openings.  If he commits this week, as I think is basically expected at this point, I will certainly be happy.  It's not like I want nothing to do with the kid, he looks like a very nice prospect. 

However, there are plenty of scenarios I would prefer with our three scholarships including any combination of (sorta kinda quickly thrown together in order of preference):

-Egor Koulechov (grad)
-Al Freeman (grad)
-Jemarl Baker (freshman)
-Ed Morrow (transfer)
-Mike Lewis III (transfer)
-Marques Bolden (transfer)
-Tevin Mack (transfer)
-Noah Dickerson (transfer)
-Sean Obi (grad)
-Isiaha Mike (transfer)
-Cameron Johnson (grad)
-Clifton Moore (freshman)
-Josh Nebo (transfer)
-Steven Enoch (transfer)
-Mike Weathers (transfer)
-Mikey Dixon (transfer)

**Note - I am not saying MU has been tied to all of these players. They are just simply guys that I in my wholly untrained recruiting eye would probably prefer over Elliot. Again, I don't mean this is as a negative towards GE.  I am just explaining why I have said I wouldn't be too torn up if he chose MSU.**

The other players you listed are all very good. However, the case for Elliot is the strongest in my view.  He will be coming in with two Detroit guys who he is very close to, and overall we will have a very strong and balanced class of freshman. In addition he gives us speed , quickness and a defensive type  presence we are lacking. The three Detroit guys would be able to give a very long and quick look to balance with our great shooters. I think Elliot has very big upside potential. Cooley sees him as another Kris Dunn which is why he is keen on him as well.

[KampusFoods]

The other players you listed are all very good. However, the case for Elliot is the strongest in my view.  He will be coming in with two Detroit guys who he is very close to, and overall we will have a very strong and balanced class of freshman. In addition he gives us speed , quickness and a defensive type  presence we are lacking. The three Detroit guys would be able to give a very long and quick look to balance with our great shooters. I think Elliot has very big upside potential. Cooley sees him as another Kris Dunn which is why he is keen on him as well.

You can just say "upside" or "potential."