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jesmu84

Quote from: Big Daddy Young Frankenstein on April 04, 2017, 10:46:24 AM
No more freshman..4 is enough.   One grad transfer and one true transfer would be perfect. Two grad transfers would be ok.

One done for this week, 30/70 on double scoop this week.  30 yes 70 no.

Frankenstein... Egor....?

MomofMUltiples

Quote from: MUMountin on April 04, 2017, 10:46:14 AM
He changed it to Big Daddy Young Frankenstein.  So, I'm hoping for Egor soon.

I mean, OK, maybe he's secretly a serial killer who's pulled the wool over our eyes with his good deeds and smooth jumper - Pakuni (on Markus Howard)

Tha Hound

Quote from: Marcus92 on April 04, 2017, 11:22:52 AM
I would love to see Egor in a Marquette uniform. He looks to be every bit as good of a shooter as Katin, and a better rebounder to boot. But I strongly suspect he's going pro.

Koulechov has earned his undergrad degree and turns 23 this November. So the decision likely comes down to: Which will be more beneficial in terms of exposure, opportunities and development — another year playing Division I college ball, or playing somewhere overseas (and getting paid to do it)? I just don't see MU as the answer.

Well as was said earlier, he is about the same age as Katin was and Katin's been in Egors ear about how great his experience at Marquette was.

warriorchick

Quote from: MomofMUltiples on April 04, 2017, 11:33:15 AM


Dang, it, Mom, you beat me to it!

BTW, do not do a Google Image Search of "eye-gore" unless you have a strong stomach.
Have some patience, FFS.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on April 04, 2017, 11:09:22 AM
I wouldn't mind keeping a scholarship open if no impact transfers are available.  Keeping some flexibility for mid-year is helpful.

There are literally tons of impact transfers.  Go get one.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: jesmu84 on April 04, 2017, 11:32:46 AM
Frankenstein... Egor....?

I didn't get the reference either, but I IMDB'd Young Frankenstein and one of the main character's name is Igor, so...
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

GGGG

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 04, 2017, 11:57:21 AM
There are literally tons of impact transfers.  Go get one.


Right.  But I like the idea of keeping one open for the likes of Harry Frolling as well.

Marcus92

Quote from: Tha Hound on April 04, 2017, 11:33:55 AM
Well as was said earlier, he is about the same age as Katin was and Katin's been in Egors ear about how great his experience at Marquette was.

Absolutely true, and as a fan I like this line of thinking. But it also seems fairly apparent that Egor is a better, more complete player than Katin at this point. If that's true, he has more options — whether it's interested universities, or overseas professional leagues.
"Let's get a green drink!" Famous last words

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on April 04, 2017, 12:00:10 PM

Right.  But I like the idea of keeping one open for the likes of Harry Frolling as well.

It worked out this year.  Generally it doesn't.  Plus mid year transfers aren't great situations.  Much better to have a guy RS all next season and be available for all of 18-19.  You don't save a scholarship to find a mid year transfer.  If you have one available because your options didn't pan out, fine, by all means go after a mid year guy, but you don't hold one for that situation.  At least that my opinion.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

shoothoops

Quote from: shoothoops on April 04, 2017, 11:22:30 AM
Correct, poorly phrased perhaps, but yes, fairly obvious that both Watson and Carrawell are from St. Louis.  Speaking of St. Louis, Mike Lewis II, the guard from Duquesne is announcing today if he is staying or transferring. Many expect him to stay at Duquesne.

As expected, Mike Lewis II has announced today he will stay at Duquesne.

buckchuckler

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 04, 2017, 11:58:34 AM
I didn't get the reference either, but I IMDB'd Young Frankenstein and one of the main character's name is Igor, so...

Wow.

Jay Bee

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 04, 2017, 11:58:34 AM
I didn't get the reference either, but I IMDB'd Young Frankenstein and one of the main character's name is Igor, so...

Woah. Now it's to the point where being familiar with Frankenstein makes you old, or JjJjJ just missed out... hmmm

Freshman year English class, our teacher told us Frankenstein was gay. To get an A in the class, I once said in class that the lightning represented sp3rm
The portal is NOT closed.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: GB Warrior on April 04, 2017, 10:41:12 AM
I think we should petition that Howard's freshman year NLI was not enforceable as he was only 17 when he committed, therefore he should still be a freshman. It worked in Liar Liar



He was only 17?  Strange that was never mentioned on a Marquette broadcast this past season.....

Jay Bee

Egor visiting the Sooners this wknd, per Evan Daniels. If that holds, would seem to at least push out the timing
The portal is NOT closed.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Jay Bee on April 04, 2017, 12:35:04 PM
Woah. Now it's to the point where being familiar with Frankenstein makes you old, or JjJjJ just missed out... hmmm

Freshman year English class, our teacher told us Frankenstein was gay. To get an A in the class, I once said in class that the lightning represented sp3rm

Well I'm 25, and not really into those types of movies, so yah. Never seen it. Never will see it.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: shoothoops on April 04, 2017, 12:20:51 PM
As expected, Mike Lewis II has announced today he will stay at Duquesne.

Damn. Really wanted him.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Marcus92

#6666
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 04, 2017, 12:48:48 PMWell I'm 25, and not really into those types of movies, so yah. Never seen it. Never will see it.

This is America. If you don't want to watch a movie, you don't have to. But Frankenstein is a touchstone of American cinema and popular culture.

The film was released more than 40 years before I was born. But I've seen it more than once — along with other pre-WWII classics such as Citizen Kane, The Maltese Falcon, Gone With The Wind and The Wizard Of Oz.

The influence of Frankenstein during the past 80+ years is stunning — including more than 50 film adaptations, music (from "Monster Mash" to Metallica), comics (superheroes like Wolverine wouldn't exist without the story of Dr. Frankenstein's monster), video games, even Disney characters (Stitch) and breakfast cereal (Frankenberry).

While Igor isn't part of Mary Shelley's source novel, the hunchbacked assistant character from the first Frankenstein film became so prevalent in horror movies that it's parodied in Young Frankenstein (another all-time classic and inspiration for horror comedies such as Evil Dead II or Zombieland).

The roots of the Frankenstein myth reach deep into human history, from the Greek Prometheus (the Titan who created mankind) to the Bible's Adam (created by God from the dust of the earth).

If you grew up in the U.S. and been paying any attention for the past 15-20 years, making the link from Young Frankenstein to Egor shouldn't be too hard.
"Let's get a green drink!" Famous last words

brewcity77

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 04, 2017, 12:09:17 PMIt worked out this year.  Generally it doesn't.  Plus mid year transfers aren't great situations.  Much better to have a guy RS all next season and be available for all of 18-19.

I'm going to differ with you here. Mid-year transfers are worse for the players because they effectively lose a year of eligibility, but are much better for the team. Here's why:

  • Play sooner: A mid-year transfer will be eligible to play for you 11 months (roughly) after arrival, a traditional transfer will have to wait 19 months (April-November plus a year).
  • Needs known: When you get a mid-year guy, you already know your needs for next year. In our case, we knew we lost out on Tillman so Froling made sense. The roster is more set when you take a mid-year guy and there's less chance they won't fit your needs.
  • Grad Transfer: Traditional transfers are often guys that end up becoming grad transfers later, so you lose out on your investment. Mid-year transfers don't have that option so you get back what you put into them.
  • Total play time: The one advantage for traditional transfers is you get complete seasons. Two in the case of a sophomore like Rowsey, or three in the case of a freshman like Froling. But look at Luke. Mid-year transfer that missed 8 games, so he played 2.75 seasons, as opposed to if he waited he would've played 3. The extra 8 games is negligible when you factor in the risk of grad transfer, the ability to get the player eligible for you sooner, and the fact that most of those missed games will be against cupcakes when you likely need the impact player less.
If I'm a player, I wouldn't want to do the mid-year transfer. It absolutely hurts the player by reducing his playing time as well as his options later. But if I'm a school, there's no doubt I want those mid-year kids when I can get them. Much better value for the school to take a kid in January than there is in April.

MomofMUltiples

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 04, 2017, 12:48:48 PM
Well I'm 25, and not really into those types of movies, so yah. Never seen it. Never will see it.

You're opposed to comedies?

Waiting for Big Daddy to change his name to "Big Daddy Little Brother" or "Big Daddy Kangaroo Baby"
I mean, OK, maybe he's secretly a serial killer who's pulled the wool over our eyes with his good deeds and smooth jumper - Pakuni (on Markus Howard)

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Marcus92 on April 04, 2017, 01:36:06 PM
This is America. If you don't want to watch a movie, you don't have to. But Frankenstein is a touchstone of American cinema and popular culture.

The film was released more than 40 years before I was born. But I've seen it more than once — along with other pre-WWII classics such as Citizen Kane, The Maltese Falcon, Gone With The Wind and The Wizard Of Oz.

The influence of Frankenstein during the past 80+ years is stunning — including more than 50 film adaptations, music (from "Monster Mash" to Metallica), comics (superheroes like Wolverine wouldn't exist without the story of Dr. Frankenstein's monster), video games, even Disney characters (Stitch) and breakfast cereal (Frankenberry).

While Igor isn't part of Mary Shelley's source novel, the hunchbacked assistant character from the first Frankenstein film became so prevalent in horror movies that it's parodied in Young Frankenstein (another all-time classic and inspiration for horror comedies such as Evil Dead II or Zombieland).

The roots of the Frankenstein myth reach deep into human history, from the Greek Prometheus (the Titan who created mankind) to the Bible's Adam (created by God from the dust of the earth).

If you grew up in the U.S. and been paying any attention for the past 15-20 years, making the link from Young Frankenstein to Egor shouldn't be too hard.

Yah, I'd rather watch a sporting event. Not interested.  I know what Frankenstein is, but no interest in watching the movie.  Sue me.

Now...back to recruiting talk.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 04, 2017, 01:37:30 PM
I'm going to differ with you here. Mid-year transfers are worse for the players because they effectively lose a year of eligibility, but are much better for the team. Here's why:

  • Play sooner: A mid-year transfer will be eligible to play for you 11 months (roughly) after arrival, a traditional transfer will have to wait 19 months (April-November plus a year).
  • Needs known: When you get a mid-year guy, you already know your needs for next year. In our case, we knew we lost out on Tillman so Froling made sense. The roster is more set when you take a mid-year guy and there's less chance they won't fit your needs.
  • Grad Transfer: Traditional transfers are often guys that end up becoming grad transfers later, so you lose out on your investment. Mid-year transfers don't have that option so you get back what you put into them.
  • Total play time: The one advantage for traditional transfers is you get complete seasons. Two in the case of a sophomore like Rowsey, or three in the case of a freshman like Froling. But look at Luke. Mid-year transfer that missed 8 games, so he played 2.75 seasons, as opposed to if he waited he would've played 3. The extra 8 games is negligible when you factor in the risk of grad transfer, the ability to get the player eligible for you sooner, and the fact that most of those missed games will be against cupcakes when you likely need the impact player less.
If I'm a player, I wouldn't want to do the mid-year transfer. It absolutely hurts the player by reducing his playing time as well as his options later. But if I'm a school, there's no doubt I want those mid-year kids when I can get them. Much better value for the school to take a kid in January than there is in April.

I don't agree with a lot of this, but not really worth debating. If we only end up with 1 more scholarship player, it very well may go to a mid year transfer (and it should).  I think we'll get at least 2 transfers (at least 1 of the graduate variety), but we shall see. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

buckchuckler

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Loose Cannon

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 04, 2017, 01:37:30 PM
I'm going to differ with you here. Mid-year transfers are worse for the players because they effectively lose a year of eligibility, but are much better for the team. Here's why:

  • Play sooner: A mid-year transfer will be eligible to play for you 11 months (roughly) after arrival, a traditional transfer will have to wait 19 months (April-November plus a year).
  • Needs known: When you get a mid-year guy, you already know your needs for next year. In our case, we knew we lost out on Tillman so Froling made sense. The roster is more set when you take a mid-year guy and there's less chance they won't fit your needs.
  • Grad Transfer: Traditional transfers are often guys that end up becoming grad transfers later, so you lose out on your investment. Mid-year transfers don't have that option so you get back what you put into them.
  • Total play time: The one advantage for traditional transfers is you get complete seasons. Two in the case of a sophomore like Rowsey, or three in the case of a freshman like Froling. But look at Luke. Mid-year transfer that missed 8 games, so he played 2.75 seasons, as opposed to if he waited he would've played 3. The extra 8 games is negligible when you factor in the risk of grad transfer, the ability to get the player eligible for you sooner, and the fact that most of those missed games will be against cupcakes when you likely need the impact player less.
If I'm a player, I wouldn't want to do the mid-year transfer. It absolutely hurts the player by reducing his playing time as well as his options later. But if I'm a school, there's no doubt I want those mid-year kids when I can get them. Much better value for the school to take a kid in January than there is in April.

Thanks, many good points.
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Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 04, 2017, 01:41:51 PM
Yah, I'd rather watch a sporting event. Not interested.  I know what Frankenstein is, but no interest in watching the movie.  Sue me.

Now...back to recruiting talk.

FYI, Young Frankenstein is a parody of the Frankenstein movie. Are you familiar with Mel Brooks? If not, you're offseason homework is to watch Spaceballs, Blazing Saddles, Robin Hood Men in Tights, History of the World Part 1, The Producers, and Young Frankenstein.

Marcus92

Beyond only having to sit out a handful of games as mid-season transfers, Luke and Harry also didn't miss much playing time —  because neither one saw very many minutes as freshmen.

Luke averaged just 10 mpg in his first season at Indiana, which would have likely decreased once the conference schedule started. Why stick around for a second semester of relatively meaningless playing time? Within a year, he was getting 3x as many minutes at Marquette.
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