Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[brewcity77]

If Mane goes, we can add this to the list of highly ranked prospects that Wojo has spent a lot of time and energy chasing.  And not landing. 

You have to know when you get to the point to cut bait.  And I'm not sure he has a good understanding of when that point is.

I wholeheartedly disagree with this take. Don't recruit a kid that might go to the NBA? Even though Michigan State was still fully in on him? Should Izzo have cut bait too?

This same logic says we shouldn't have pursued Grimes or Mannion because they went to Kansas and Arizona. Never mind that we pursued and landed Ellenson & Garcia, both of whom had multiple blue blood offers and still picked Marquette. And that both kept us on their final lists (with Mannion having multiple ties to MU & a similar pedigree to Markus).

Should we have similarly given up on Greg Elliott because he had a MSU offer? Or Symir Torrence because of Syracuse? Or Oso Ighodaro because Arizona offered him?

You go for the best players you can and realize that you will lose most recruiting battles. That's just the reality of the business.

[The Sultan]

Anonymous Eagle
@AnonymousEagle
when multiple years of attempting to recruit tippety-top guard prospects leaves us with a season where MU is woefully undermanned in the backcourt, and the staff attempts to fix this by spending all of this time chasing a guy that was almost always going to enter the draft.....

[BrewCity83]

You guys are ridiculous.  If Wojo doesn't recruit top prospects, you bitch that we can't win with a bunch of 3-stars.  If he tries to recruit top guys, and loses them, then he wasted his valuable time.  Please stop bitching about everything.  You can't have it both ways. 

So it sounds like you're happy with a team full of 3-stars.  Great, let's go back to the days of Mike Deane.   That's how he rolled.

[The Sultan]

I wholeheartedly disagree with this take. Don't recruit a kid that might go to the NBA? Even though Michigan State was still fully in on him? Should Izzo have cut bait too?

This same logic says we shouldn't have pursued Grimes or Mannion because they went to Kansas and Arizona. Never mind that we pursued and landed Ellenson & Garcia, both of whom had multiple blue blood offers and still picked Marquette. And that both kept us on their final lists (with Mannion having multiple ties to MU & a similar pedigree to Markus).

Should we have similarly given up on Greg Elliott because he had a MSU offer? Or Symir Torrence because of Syracuse? Or Oso Ighodaro because Arizona offered him?

You go for the best players you can and realize that you will lose most recruiting battles. That's just the reality of the business.

I'm not saying we don't go after them.  Where did I say that?

But have a better back up plan.  At least in the case of Mannion we ended up with Symir after a reclass so I will give him that..  But with Grimes we ended up needing to grad transfer Joe Chartouney. 

[lawdog77]

Anonymous Eagle
@AnonymousEagle
when multiple years of attempting to recruit tippety-top guard prospects leaves us with a season where MU is woefully undermanned in the backcourt, and the staff attempts to fix this by spending all of this time chasing a guy that was almost always going to enter the draft.....

Completely horrible take. It's not like Mane was our exclusive taget. We signed Carton during this whole process. We are/were on a F$%kton of other guards.

[The Sultan]

You guys are ridiculous.  If Wojo doesn't recruit top prospects, you bitch that we can't win with a bunch of 3-stars.  If he tries to recruit top guys, and loses them, then he wasted his valuable time.  Please stop bitching about everything.  You can't have it both ways. 

So it sounds like you're happy with a team full of 3-stars.  Great, let's go back to the days of Mike Deane.   That's how he rolled.

Yet again, something that's presented as a binary choice that isn't a binary choice.

[lawdog77]

I'm not saying we don't go after them.  Where did I say that?

But have a better back up plan.  At least in the case of Mannion we ended up with Symir after a reclass so I will give him that..  But with Grimes we ended up needing to grad transfer Joe Chartouney.

You said he needs to know when to cut bait. That means stop recruiting in my lingo.

[muguru]

The day MU STOPS recruiting the best of the best, is the day i give up my MU fandom for good. Nothing screams "we're small time" more than that. If you miss you miss...you can always find a transfer or something to fill a spot. Besides, you don't need 13 scholarship players, no one plays that many guys anyway

[The Sultan]

The day MU STOPS recruiting the best of the best, is the day i give up my MU fandom for good. Nothing screams "we're small time" more than that.

No.

One.

Is.

Saying.

This.

[muguru]

 If you're a team with a late 2nd round pick why wouldn't you take a chance on Mane and stash him in the G League??

[brewcity77]

I'm not saying we don't go after them.  Where did I say that?

But have a better back up plan.  At least in the case of Mannion we ended up with Symir after a reclass so I will give him that..  But with Grimes we ended up needing to grad transfer Joe Chartouney.

They had multiple guard targets. They missed on Davis, Hoggard, Beekman, and Terry. The backup plan is a grad transfer. Sometimes it's Chartouny, sometimes it's Reinhardt, sometimes it's Carlino.

I know Andy has made this point and I have disagreed with him on it too. Here's my question: who is the backup plan Marquette should've pursued? Desmond Polk? Lynn Greer? Alex Antetokounmpo? Or some other sub-200 recruit? Or is the grad market and hoping for the best an acceptable backup plan?

[The Sultan]

They had multiple guard targets. They missed on Davis, Hoggard, Beekman, and Terry. The backup plan is a grad transfer. Sometimes it's Chartouny, sometimes it's Reinhardt, sometimes it's Carlino.

I know Andy has made this point and I have disagreed with him on it too. Here's my question: who is the backup plan Marquette should've pursued? Desmond Polk? Lynn Greer? Alex Antetokounmpo? Or some other sub-200 recruit? Or is the grad market and hoping for the best an acceptable backup plan?

I don't know.  It's not my job to know.  Someone good who will say yes.  And maybe that will be Mane eventually.

[mileskishnish72]

Mane to draft. Can opt out.

[bilsu]

They had multiple guard targets. They missed on Davis, Hoggard, Beekman, and Terry. The backup plan is a grad transfer. Sometimes it's Chartouny, sometimes it's Reinhardt, sometimes it's Carlino.

I know Andy has made this point and I have disagreed with him on it too. Here's my question: who is the backup plan Marquette should've pursued? Desmond Polk? Lynn Greer? Alex Antetokounmpo? Or some other sub-200 recruit? Or is the grad market and hoping for the best an acceptable backup plan?

My concern is that Wojo is chasing 2021 players all over the country while dropping the ball on the guard from St. Cates.

[SaveOD238]

My concern is that Wojo is chasing 2021 players all over the country while dropping the ball on the guard from St. Cates.

I teach at St. Catherines, and I have never heard anyone call it St. Cates.  Just St. Cats.

But I agree with your point.  I'm a little surprised that Tyrese didn't sign up as soon as he got an offer, but I think Wojo is still in the drivers seat with him.

[brewcity77]

I don't know.  It's not my job to know.  Someone good who will say yes.  And maybe that will be Mane eventually.

Someone like DJ Carton?

[Pakuni]

My concern is that Wojo is chasing 2021 players all over the country while dropping the ball on the guard from St. Cates.

He's had the guard from St. Cates in for multiple visits and extended an offer.
What more should he be doing?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Anonymous Eagle
@AnonymousEagle
when multiple years of attempting to recruit tippety-top guard prospects leaves us with a season where MU is woefully undermanned in the backcourt, and the staff attempts to fix this by spending all of this time chasing a guy that was almost always going to enter the draft.....

Someone should let AE know about this Carton kid.

[JakeBarnes]

Wojo only goes for the half pound roast beef sandwiches.

No time for jr roast beefs.

Arbys.

[Newsdreams]

Mane to draft. Can opt out.

Correct

[Newsdreams]

If you're a team with a late 2nd round pick why wouldn't you take a chance on Mane and stash him in the G League??

Not what he wants.

[muguru]

Not what he wants.

Well his own statement makes it seem like he's saying if someone guarantees him he will be drafted(his own words, no round attached to that), he would likely stay in.

[Newsdreams]

Well his own statement makes it seem like he's saying if someone guarantees him he will be drafted(his own words, no round attached to that), he would likely stay in.

He us talking draft guarantee but not to be stuck in G. Unless there was a change he had no interest in G League

[wadesworld]

Anonymous Eagle
@AnonymousEagle
when multiple years of attempting to recruit tippety-top guard prospects leaves us with a season where MU is woefully undermanned in the backcourt, and the staff attempts to fix this by spending all of this time chasing a guy that was almost always going to enter the draft.....

Well, I mean, he did just land a 5 star transfer at the guard position...

[jesmu84]

Well his own statement makes it seem like he's saying if someone guarantees him he will be drafted(his own words, no round attached to that), he would likely stay in.

Haven't you learned your lesson on public comments?