Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[muguru]

He us talking draft guarantee but not to be stuck in G. Unless there was a change he had no interest in G League

Right, but if someone makes him a guarantee they will take him in the 2nd round(which by his own words likely makes him stay in), that team is likely to bring him to camp, release him, then send him to the G league. He has to realize that would be a distinct possibility if he gets a 2nd round promise.

[Viper]

You guys are ridiculous.  If Wojo doesn't recruit top prospects, you bitch that we can't win with a bunch of 3-stars.  If he tries to recruit top guys, and loses them, then he wasted his valuable time.  Please stop bitching about everything.  You can't have it both ways. 

So it sounds like you're happy with a team full of 3-stars.  Great, let's go back to the days of Mike Deane.   That's how he rolled.

Word, brother, word

[Viper]

Someone should let AE know about this Carton kid.

word. AE is an e-rag.

[The Sultan]

Someone like DJ Carton?

Sure. If you want to shift goalposts to include transfers.

[Nukem2]

Sure. If you want to shift goalposts to include transfers.

How is that any different Mr. Sultan?

[The Sultan]

How is that any different Mr. Sultan?

Already explained.

[Nukem2]

Already explained.

Nah.  Recruits are recruits, whatever form or fashion.

[Its DJOver]

There should be no blanket statements regarding the amount of time and the quality of the recruit.  All situation should be evaluated individually. 

There were a couple of people here upset that we didn't invest more time and resources into Herro.  Personally, I think Wojo handled that one okay.  Offer, recruit, have on campus, but when it became clear that he wanted to go to a one-and-done factory, cut your losses.

How much did we invest in Jalen Johnson?  Sure the offer was there, and he'd been on campus, but considering how small our chances were with him to begin with, having the "backup plan" of Lewis and Osa seems fairly solid to me. 

Of course learning when to cut your losses is important, but by all accounts, we were there up until the final day for Grimes, Nico, Davis etc.  If the staff feels that they have a legit chance to land someone, the resources are well used.  If Wojo were spending every other day with Baldwin Jr., I'd say that it might be a waste of time.

[wadesworld]

Yeah I think he's been pretty good at knowing when to move on and when to put the full court press on. His problem has been keeping guys who can contribute from leaving the program.

[bilsu]

Of course learning when to cut your losses is important, but by all accounts, we were there up until the final day for Grimes, Nico, Davis etc.  If the staff feels that they have a legit chance to land someone, the resources are well used. 

Except Grimes and Manion went where they were expected to go in the first place. A lot of work was put in to try and steal these players away. Great effort to finish 2nd, but 2nd is the same as last in recruiting.

[MU82]

If you're a team with a late 2nd round pick why wouldn't you take a chance on Mane and stash him in the G League??

Because maybe there are prospects available that you like at least as much?

There should be no blanket statements regarding the amount of time and the quality of the recruit.  All situation should be evaluated individually. 

There were a couple of people here upset that we didn't invest more time and resources into Herro.  Personally, I think Wojo handled that one okay.  Offer, recruit, have on campus, but when it became clear that he wanted to go to a one-and-done factory, cut your losses.

How much did we invest in Jalen Johnson?  Sure the offer was there, and he'd been on campus, but considering how small our chances were with him to begin with, having the "backup plan" of Lewis and Osa seems fairly solid to me. 

Of course learning when to cut your losses is important, but by all accounts, we were there up until the final day for Grimes, Nico, Davis etc.  If the staff feels that they have a legit chance to land someone, the resources are well used.  If Wojo were spending every other day with Baldwin Jr., I'd say that it might be a waste of time.

Totally agree with this.

Wojo apparently spent so much time chasing "unattainable" players that we only ended up with Garcia, Lewis, Oso and Carton. For shame!

[Johnny B]

Jay bee drinks mad dog 2020

[Ben Golds Five]

Kiwi-strawberry?

[1SE]

Mane would be great. But recruiting isn't the problem - even without Mane a Carton-eligible roster is one that a good coach should be able to do something with.

Will Wojo be able to do something with it? I guess we'll see.

[Viper]

Except Grimes and Manion went where they were expected to go in the first place. A lot of work was put in to try and steal these players away. Great effort to finish 2nd, but 2nd is the same as last in recruiting.

conjecture. Do you really know? Unless you are on the 'inside' what's the point?

[brewcity77]

Sure. If you want to shift goalposts to include transfers.

Okay, strictly sticking to guards, we have...

2015: Traci Carter, Haanif Cheatham, Andrew Rowsey
2016: Markus Howard
2017: Greg Elliott
2018: Joseph Chartouny, Koby McEwen
2019: Symir Torrence, Dexter Akanno
2020: DJ Carton

Yes, he missed on some guys, but he's generally brought guards in every year. Where he hasn't, he's filled spots with transfers. Some have been great, like Howard and Torrence. Some have washed out, like Carter and Cheatham. Some have been somewhere in the middle, like Elliott, McEwen, and (so far) Torrence. Only one has been truly terrible, in Chartouny.

Wojo's plan A seems to be the high level guards. He goes after guys like Howard, Grimes, Mannion, Torrence, and Davis. But he supplants those with three stars like Elliott and Akanno where he can and fills in with transfers like Chartouny and McEwen where he can't.

I have a ton of issues with Wojo's tenure, but I feel that his recruiting has been fine and honestly improved as he went along. Instead of small guards like Carter, Rowsey, and Howard, he's generally looking to bigger guards with frames better suited for the Big East, guys that look like the guards Chris Mack was getting to Xavier. The results aren't there, but the recruiting strategy is okay.

[IrwinFletcher]

Okay, strictly sticking to guards, we have...

2015: Traci Carter, Haanif Cheatham, Andrew Rowsey
2016: Markus Howard
2017: Greg Elliott
2018: Joseph Chartouny, Koby McEwen
2019: Symir Torrence, Dexter Akanno
2020: DJ Carton

Yes, he missed on some guys, but he's generally brought guards in every year. Where he hasn't, he's filled spots with transfers. Some have been great, like Howard and Torrence. Some have washed out, like Carter and Cheatham. Some have been somewhere in the middle, like Elliott, McEwen, and (so far) Torrence. Only one has been truly terrible, in Chartouny.

Wojo's plan A seems to be the high level guards. He goes after guys like Howard, Grimes, Mannion, Torrence, and Davis. But he supplants those with three stars like Elliott and Akanno where he can and fills in with transfers like Chartouny and McEwen where he can't.

I have a ton of issues with Wojo's tenure, but I feel that his recruiting has been fine and honestly improved as he went along. Instead of small guards like Carter, Rowsey, and Howard, he's generally looking to bigger guards with frames better suited for the Big East, guys that look like the guards Chris Mack was getting to Xavier. The results aren't there, but the recruiting strategy is okay.

With the amount of end of year transfers we see these days, I think it makes it that much more acceptable to chase the Elite recruits.  Chase them and if you get them, great.  If not, there will be talented guys In March and April to fill in the roster, sometimes many of them are very talented.

[WarriorInNYC]

And maybe that will be Mane eventually.

But shouldn't we have already cut bait a while ago?

[The Sultan]

I shouldn't have said "cut bait."  That wasn't the right term and implies we should never go after these guys, which is of course wrong.

I should have said "a better back up plan." 

[MU82]

Okay, strictly sticking to guards, we have...

2015: Traci Carter, Haanif Cheatham, Andrew Rowsey
2016: Markus Howard
2017: Greg Elliott
2018: Joseph Chartouny, Koby McEwen
2019: Symir Torrence, Dexter Akanno
2020: DJ Carton

Yes, he missed on some guys, but he's generally brought guards in every year. Where he hasn't, he's filled spots with transfers. Some have been great, like Howard and Torrence. Some have washed out, like Carter and Cheatham. Some have been somewhere in the middle, like Elliott, McEwen, and (so far) Torrence. Only one has been truly terrible, in Chartouny.

Wojo's plan A seems to be the high level guards. He goes after guys like Howard, Grimes, Mannion, Torrence, and Davis. But he supplants those with three stars like Elliott and Akanno where he can and fills in with transfers like Chartouny and McEwen where he can't.

I have a ton of issues with Wojo's tenure, but I feel that his recruiting has been fine and honestly improved as he went along. Instead of small guards like Carter, Rowsey, and Howard, he's generally looking to bigger guards with frames better suited for the Big East, guys that look like the guards Chris Mack was getting to Xavier. The results aren't there, but the recruiting strategy is okay.

Excellent post, as was this:

With the amount of end of year transfers we see these days, I think it makes it that much more acceptable to chase the Elite recruits.  Chase them and if you get them, great.  If not, there will be talented guys In March and April to fill in the roster, sometimes many of them are very talented.

[muguru]

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Just talked with 2022 4
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Noah Batchelor, he told me Marquette, Maryland, Memphis, and Georgetown are all "heavily" recruiting him.

[franklinjerry]

If there are now several hundred in the transfer portal and relaxed transfer restrictions on the horizon perhaps bumping the portal near 1000, does high school recruiting take a back seat to recruiting the transfer portal?
Simply wait to see what you need one season to the next and get after the portal?

[Dawson Rental]

You guys are ridiculous.  If Wojo doesn't recruit top prospects, you bitch that we can't win with a bunch of 3-stars.  If he tries to recruit top guys, and loses them, then he wasted his valuable time.  Please stop bitching about everything.  You can't have it both ways. 

So it sounds like you're happy with a team full of 3-stars.  Great, let's go back to the days of Mike Deane.   That's how he rolled.

Deane got very few 3 star recruits. He actually got very few recruits, at all. Having 2 star Krunti Hester the only recruit showing any interest with many schollies available in his last recruiting class sealed his fate. A great game coach who couldn't recruit because it cut into his drinking time.

[Dawson Rental]

Jay bee drinks mad dog 2020

My God, do they still make that?  I haven't seen it in 30 years.

[Uncle Rico]

My God, do they still make that?  I haven't seen it in 30 years.

They do and it still sells quite well