Recruiting as of 3/15/24

[panda]

This made me laugh.  Out loud.  Such a perfect analogy on many levels.

Free beer at the Purdue game to whomever posts this on his website first!

[UNC Eagle]

Yeah, they get recruited over, but year in and year out, they keep getting high ranked recruits. We should be in the same boat, with our budget, history, resources, etc. But alas, we are not.

Marquette signs top level players when there is absolute path to playing time and they identify a player early enough to build relationship. I would say that most of the other non blue blood programs of similar stature have the same recruiting record with regard to the cant miss prospects. Overall, I would say Marquette does a very good job  compared to its peers , which is why the program is a consistent winner.

Blue Bloods by their nature, can select the players they want every year, the only real competition they have is the other Blue Bloods and the home state school of the player. 

If you read the comments of non blue blood  recruits over the years , they cite how the team they signed with had made a huge commitment of time and resources showing up 4 deep etc

Carolina or Duke can get by  sending  Hubert Davis or Jon Scheyer to keep the fires warm with a recruit and their family until Roy or K decides it is worth their time to put the hard sell on any individual recruit.  The Marquette's of the college basketball world are pinned down, not because of lack of resources or tradition, but rather they have to put every last ounce of what they have to sign their recruits. 

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

This made me laugh.  Out loud.  Such a perfect analogy on many levels.

Tyty

I will be here all week

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Marquette signs top level players when there is absolute path to playing time and they identify a player early enough to build relationship. I would say that most of the other non blue blood programs of similar stature have the same recruiting record with regard to the cant miss prospects. Overall, I would say Marquette does a very good job  compared to its peers , which is why the program is a consistent winner.

Blue Bloods by their nature, can select the players they want every year, the only real competition they have is the other Blue Bloods and the home state school of the player. 

If you read the comments of non blue blood  recruits over the years , they cite how the team they signed with had made a huge commitment of time and resources showing up 4 deep etc

Carolina or Duke can get by  sending  Hubert Davis or Jon Scheyer to keep the fires warm with a recruit and their family until Roy or K decides it is worth their time to put the hard sell on any individual recruit.  The Marquette's of the college basketball world are pinned down, not because of lack of resources or tradition, but rather they have to put every last ounce of what they have to sign their recruits.

Spot on.  This can be over come tho.  See Villanova, MU in the 70’s. 
Another reason MU’s meltdown was so painful last year.  A Big East championship n a W or two in the NCAA makes recruiting significantly easier.  But some wish the Hauser’s well, i scratch my head on that one.

[JakeBarnes]

Marquette signs top level players when there is absolute path to playing time and they identify a player early enough to build relationship. I would say that most of the other non blue blood programs of similar stature have the same recruiting record with regard to the cant miss prospects. Overall, I would say Marquette does a very good job  compared to its peers , which is why the program is a consistent winner.

Blue Bloods by their nature, can select the players they want every year, the only real competition they have is the other Blue Bloods and the home state school of the player. 

If you read the comments of non blue blood  recruits over the years , they cite how the team they signed with had made a huge commitment of time and resources showing up 4 deep etc

Carolina or Duke can get by  sending  Hubert Davis or Jon Scheyer to keep the fires warm with a recruit and their family until Roy or K decides it is worth their time to put the hard sell on any individual recruit.  The Marquette's of the college basketball world are pinned down, not because of lack of resources or tradition, but rather they have to put every last ounce of what they have to sign their recruits.

Disclosure: I still think we are very much in the running for RJ. The UNC visit is a big body blow as they can really put on a show, but definitely feel we are in good standing and the train hasn't left the station.

That said, I agree with a lot of the above. Wojo and his staff have done an amazing job of finding unique talents far before they are the "talent du jour" when all the blue bloods get in. Lots of recruits that weren't on the radar that end up becoming top 100 kids (or play like them, such as a Sacar Anim). No team hits on 100% of their recruits, but blue bloods do have a slightly easier path due to the nature of a long established history that involves a ton of Final Fours, a few Nattys and a stable of NBA players.

This isn't something that happens overnight. Hell, it's something that doesn't always happen in a decade. That said, the ability to find that sort of talent early and hit on it on a reasonably frequent basis can go a long way to building that. This class has 2 very, very solid players so far. Justin Lewis was getting good reviews at USA Basketball and Oso is a great late riser.

Still have irons in the fire for Karim Mane (who I personally think is going to be a better prospect than RJ), Dawson Garcia (who from all accounts likes us a lot), Javonte Brown-Ferguson (another guy we got in on early once reclass info came out), and RJ. We have a top level 2020 PG already on the roster from a reclassification to 2019. All is not lost when we don't get one kid (just like all wasn't lost when we didn't get Nico Mannion or Quentin Grimes).

This is all a long game and we're all staring at short term gains. Let it breathe a bit before jumping to conclusions.

[MomofMUltiples]

If RJ Davis wants to have a "real college experience" he may want to consider Markus Howard's college experience over what Cole Anthony's is likely to be.

[Marcus92]

Recruiting the best prospects means going up against the best programs. We're not going to win every one. But Wojo has landed his share -- including beating out Arizona for Markus, Brendan and Oso. We're still in a good position for RJ and Dawson. Let's see what happens. No need for angst before they've announced anything.

[4everwarriors]

Dodd's believes osa can play the 5

Hoo da hell is Dodds, hey?

[willie warrior]

Disclosure: I still think we are very much in the running for RJ. The UNC visit is a big body blow as they can really put on a show, but definitely feel we are in good standing and the train hasn't left the station.

That said, I agree with a lot of the above. Wojo and his staff have done an amazing job of finding unique talents far before they are the "talent du jour" when all the blue bloods get in. Lots of recruits that weren't on the radar that end up becoming top 100 kids (or play like them, such as a Sacar Anim). No team hits on 100% of their recruits, but blue bloods do have a slightly easier path due to the nature of a long established history that involves a ton of Final Fours, a few Nattys and a stable of NBA players.

This isn't something that happens overnight. Hell, it's something that doesn't always happen in a decade. That said, the ability to find that sort of talent early and hit on it on a reasonably frequent basis can go a long way to building that. This class has 2 very, very solid players so far. Justin Lewis was getting good reviews at USA Basketball and Oso is a great late riser.

Still have irons in the fire for Karim Mane (who I personally think is going to be a better prospect than RJ), Dawson Garcia (who from all accounts likes us a lot), Javonte Brown-Ferguson (another guy we got in on early once reclass info came out), and RJ. We have a top level 2020 PG already on the roster from a reclassification to 2019. All is not lost when we don't get one kid (just like all wasn't lost when we didn't get Nico Mannion or Quentin Grimes).

This is all a long game and we're all staring at short term gains. Let it breathe a bit before jumping to conclusions.

A "long game"? Wojo is in his 6th year!!!! Guess he needs another 15 for his "long game" to come to fruition. After all, Coach K needed several decades to get the long game going.

[Silkk the Shaka]

A "long game"? Wojo is in his 6th year!!!! Guess he needs another 15 for his "long game" to come to fruition. After all, Coach K needed several decades to get the long game going.

I actually do think if he's still here in his 15th year we'll start to rack up consistent deep runs and "selecting" when it comes to recruiting (I would say the same for almost any coach that was with us for 15 years)

[Loose Cannon]

Geez, now you're PRE-complaining?  Before anything has even happened?

I'd say you are a glass half empty guy, but I don't think you see any water at all.

Nah, just looking for the Rainy days.

[JakeBarnes]

A "long game"? Wojo is in his 6th year!!!! Guess he needs another 15 for his "long game" to come to fruition. After all, Coach K needed several decades to get the long game going.

Not just talking about Wojo. A decade of sustained success makes recruiting easier, regardless of coach. We don't have that right now. Comparing us to UNC is comparing apples to oranges at this moment.

[Nukem2]

Not just talking about Wojo. A decade of sustained success makes recruiting easier, regardless of coach. We don't have that right now. Comparing us to UNC is comparing apples to oranges at this moment.

Not addressing Wojo here, but how many high major head coaches have been at their current schools more than a decade outside of the blueboods?

[onepost]

Carolina or Duke can get by  sending  Hubert Davis or Jon Scheyer to keep the fires warm with a recruit and their family until Roy or K decides it is worth their time to put the hard sell on any individual recruit.  The Marquette's of the college basketball world are pinned down, not because of lack of resources or tradition, but rather they have to put every last ounce of what they have to sign their recruits.

Thanks for your valid condescension.

[JakeBarnes]

Nah, just looking for the Rainy days.

I much preferred Wainy Days.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Not addressing Wojo here, but how many high major head coaches have been at their current schools more than a decade outside of the blueboods?

These were the ones I could think of. There are at least a few that are at 9 years this season, some which are really surprising given their record like Pat Chambers

Syracuse: Jim Beoheim (41st)
Michigan State: Tom Izzo (25th)
Notre Dame: Mike Brey (20th)
Villanova: Jay Wright (19th)
Florida State: Leonard Hamilton (18th)
Baylor: Scott Drew (16th)
Purdue: Matt Painter (15th)
West Virginia: Bob  Huggins (13th)
Arizona: Sean Miller (11th)
Virginia: Tony Bennett (11th)
Clemson: Brad Brownwell (10th)
Colorado: Tad Boyle (10th)
Creighton: Greg McDermott (10th)
Iowa: Fran McCaffery (10th)
Oregon: Dana Altman (10th)

[Uncle Rico]

These were the ones I could think of. There are at least a few that are at 9 years this season, some which are really surprising given their record like Pat Chambers

Syracuse: Jim Beoheim (41st)
Michigan State: Tom Izzo (25th)
Notre Dame: Mike Brey (20th)
Villanova: Jay Wright (19th)
Florida State: Leonard Hamilton (18th)
Baylor: Scott Drew (16th)
Purdue: Matt Painter (15th)
West Virginia: Bob  Huggins (13th)
Arizona: Sean Miller (11th)
Virginia: Tony Bennett (11th)
Clemson: Brad Brownwell (10th)
Colorado: Tad Boyle (10th)
Creighton: Greg McDermott (10th)
Iowa: Fran McCaffery (10th)
Oregon: Dana Altman (10th)

Notre Dame, Baylor, Arizona, Purdue and Clemson you say...

[MarquetteMike1977]

If RJ Davis wants to have a "real college experience" he may want to consider Markus Howard's college experience over what Cole Anthony's is likely to be.

Agree Fact More Minutes At Marquette. Marquette is a Real College Experience. RJ should use college and not let college use him.

[Loose Cannon]

I much preferred Wainy Days.

You win with that one, thanks

[MuMark]

https://twitter.com/bensteelemjs/status/1184540397676175360?s=21

[wadesworld]

These were the ones I could think of. There are at least a few that are at 9 years this season, some which are really surprising given their record like Pat Chambers

Syracuse: Jim Beoheim (41st)
Michigan State: Tom Izzo (25th)
Notre Dame: Mike Brey (20th)
Villanova: Jay Wright (19th)
Florida State: Leonard Hamilton (18th)
Baylor: Scott Drew (16th)
Purdue: Matt Painter (15th)
West Virginia: Bob  Huggins (13th)
Arizona: Sean Miller (11th)
Virginia: Tony Bennett (11th)
Clemson: Brad Brownwell (10th)
Colorado: Tad Boyle (10th)
Creighton: Greg McDermott (10th)
Iowa: Fran McCaffery (10th)
Oregon: Dana Altman (10th)

Gonzaga isn't in a P6 conference, but I'd say they're a high major program/Few's a high major coach, so he'd be in there.

[MU82]

These were the ones I could think of. There are at least a few that are at 9 years this season, some which are really surprising given their record like Pat Chambers

Syracuse: Jim Beoheim (41st)
Michigan State: Tom Izzo (25th)
Notre Dame: Mike Brey (20th)
Villanova: Jay Wright (19th)
Florida State: Leonard Hamilton (18th)
Baylor: Scott Drew (16th)
Purdue: Matt Painter (15th)
West Virginia: Bob  Huggins (13th)
Arizona: Sean Miller (11th)
Virginia: Tony Bennett (11th)
Clemson: Brad Brownwell (10th)
Colorado: Tad Boyle (10th)
Creighton: Greg McDermott (10th)
Iowa: Fran McCaffery (10th)
Oregon: Dana Altman (10th)

Michigan State for sure, and probably Syracuse, Nova and Arizona are in the "just-below-blueblood" category.

Three other coaches worth mentioning: Mark Few, who as wades noted is at another of those "just-below-blueblood" programs; Gregg Marshall at Wichita State; and Bob McKillop at Davidson. Obviously, Davidson is not "high major." Technically, Gonzaga and Wichita State aren't, either, but they have been outstanding programs for a long time, well capable of beating majors most years.

All three of them have had opportunities to move "up," but all three are content being where they are -- in great situations at fine basketball schools. Each makes plenty of $$ while facing relatively less pressure. Yes, all coaches face pressure, but I think we all can agree there is less at Wichita State, Davidson and even Gonzaga than at a blueblood.

[Goose]

I am not concerned any losing any recruit until Big Daddy sounds the alarm. BD was radio silent for a long time and made a Will Reed like return to Scoop. The fanfare associated with the return got me fired up. So, until the Fat Lady sings or BD tells me otherwise, I am expecting good news.

[JakeBarnes]

Slow recruiting news days are the worst. Nothing really out there on the wire that I've been able to find. No visits. No trickle of news outside of the news of the visit to see JBF yesterday.

[burger]

I told you they were going to "fluff" his arse......

Hopefully playing time is important and not the Carolina B.S. about playing multiple lead guards......

I am sure when multiple forwards are in......They talk about playing some kind of Golden State no position B.S......

After Jordan......name me some Carolina guards......

Wade.....Butler......Rivers.....Markus......We stack up pretty close......