Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[MuMark]

Ok back to recruiting

https://twitter.com/coachmantegna/status/1030424082691620865?s=21

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Ok back to recruiting

https://twitter.com/coachmantegna/status/1030424082691620865?s=21

So 3 out of our Final 5 have scheduled an official with us. Just waiting on Rocket and Mr. Lundy.

[Loose Cannon]

Ok back to recruiting

https://twitter.com/coachmantegna/status/1030424082691620865?s=21

This sounds exciting to me.

[NorthernDancerColt]

Ok back to recruiting

https://twitter.com/coachmantegna/status/1030424082691620865?s=21

Is there any Body of Evidence for this.....or is it just a House of Games?

[TedBaxter]

Is there any Body of Evidence for this.....or is it just a House of Games?

Is this a legitimate question?

Joe Mantagna at Blair Academy has averaged about 1 high major recruit a year since he's been at Blair the last 18-19 years, so he's not going to post something like this if it isn't true.

[Herman Cain]

Is this a legitimate question?

Joe Mantagna at Blair Academy has averaged about 1 high major recruit a year since he's been at Blair the last 18-19 years, so he's not going to post something like this if it isn't true.

Will be interesting to see if Buzz offers Dexter.

[nyg]

Will be interesting to see if Buzz offers Dexter.

https://www.anonymouseagle.com/2018/8/3/17639312/marquette-golden-eagles-basketball-recruiting-akanno-terry-cottrell-steward-strawther

Almost a month ago........

[Herman Cain]

https://www.anonymouseagle.com/2018/8/3/17639312/marquette-golden-eagles-basketball-recruiting-akanno-terry-cottrell-steward-strawther

Almost a month ago........

https://twitter.com/roberticart/status/1030897395528228864

[TedBaxter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8f5yZyQITw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFRtNheNlS8

[Floorslapper]

Yes.  Anytime you classify people by race, versus their individual ability, it is an example of racism.

There is racism and there is realism.  74.4 percent of players in the NBA are Black.  70% in the NFL.  100% of Olympic 100M sprinters are Black.

There are exceptions to everything.  Yet, it is not silly, stupid, nor racist to hedge your bets in your are an NBA or NFL GM, and if its a close call on a player - you probably go with the odds.

I'm sure some of the easily aggrieved and offended here will be outraged with such a post, but it shouldn't be deemed "racist" to talk in real terms.

[Herman Cain]

If anyone out there would like an example of a good neck, Dexter is exhibit 1.  Dexter uses that neck strength  and is a  solid defender. 
https://www.prephoops.com/2018/04/recruiting-report-dexter-akanno/

Dexter  is right up there with Jeenathan in terms of neck strength. Jeenethen is projected by some to be Mr. Lockdown of the freshman elite. So maybe MU gets a second bite at that apple via Dexter.

https://247sports.com/Article/College-basketball-recruiting-rankings-Superlatives-for-Zion-Williamson-Bol-Bol-Romeo-Langford-117476661/

[wadesworld]

There is racism and there is realism.  74.4 percent of players in the NBA are Black.  70% in the NFL.  100% of Olympic 100M sprinters are Black.

There are exceptions to everything.  Yet, it is not silly, stupid, nor racist to hedge your bets in your are an NBA or NFL GM, and if its a close call on a player - you probably go with the odds.

I'm sure some of the easily aggrieved and offended here will be outraged with such a post, but it shouldn't be deemed "racist" to talk in real terms.

To ask if people saw the color of his skin and say that if he looked like Zion Williamson maybe he would be starting at Duke or Nova but because he doesn't he'll be a nice bench player at any of the 4 schools he decides on and can't be a one and done because there haven't been a lot of white people who have gone one and done is racist.

It's not racist to say "there are more African Americans in the NBA." Nobody said it was.

It is racist to say, "This kid can't be good enough to start at Marquette as a freshman because he's white" is racist.

And it's even more stupid than it is racist.

[MU82]

Two stupid things:

++ An NBA team drafting a player because he is white to placate a racist fan base.

++ An NBA team "hedging its bets" by passing on a white player just because "odds" say the black guy would be better.

I'll bet a lot of NBA teams are happy they hedged their bets and went with the odds to pass on Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki!

[Floorslapper]

To ask if people saw the color of his skin and say that if he looked like Zion Williamson maybe he would be starting at Duke or Nova but because he doesn't he'll be a nice bench player at any of the 4 schools he decides on and can't be a one and done because there haven't been a lot of white people who have gone one and done is racist.

It's not racist to say "there are more African Americans in the NBA." Nobody said it was.

It is racist to say, "This kid can't be good enough to start at Marquette as a freshman because he's white" is racist.

And it's even more stupid than it is racist.

All true.  I wasn't commenting back to the original post that sparked the outrage, but instead Sultan's take - which on the surface is largely true, yet there are also components that need to be acknowledged on how some personnel decisions may be made - whether that be in sports or elsewhere.

[We R Final Four]

If anyone out there would like an example of a good neck, Dexter is exhibit 1.  Dexter uses that neck strength  and is a  solid defender. 
https://www.prephoops.com/2018/04/recruiting-report-dexter-akanno/

Dexter  is right up there with Jeenathan in terms of neck strength. Jeenethen is projected by some to be Mr. Lockdown of the freshman elite. So maybe MU gets a second bite at that apple via Dexter.

https://247sports.com/Article/College-basketball-recruiting-rankings-Superlatives-for-Zion-Williamson-Bol-Bol-Romeo-Langford-117476661/

Herman........you agreed not to discuss Jeenathen since he is no longer (or ever was) coming here.
I know it is difficult for you, but give it a try.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Dexter and nico would be my class of chioce for '19

[Herman Cain]

Just to give my two cents worth.....

In the days of my youth, I never played with or against a white athlete.  So I had a preconceived notion of what they were all about. When I got to college , it was the first time I experienced playing with, and against, whites. That experience quickly changed my ideas. The hardest hits I ever received , the real bell ringers, were from the  white players that came from that Western Pennsylvania/ Ohio corridor and guys who played for very large high schools in Michigan.
The three best players on my  team who went on to great Sunday success were all whites who fit that mold. Intensity and heart are also intangibles that cannot be ascribed by any race.

The thing I learned way back then was that there are two concepts of athleticism. One is theoretical based on track and field time and other quantifiable measurements . The second is based on the ability to play at a fast speed. Ever since those days, I have valued athletes based on the latter, irrespective of their race. A player who can play fast and make good decisions is worth his weight in gold. Obviously, a player who is quantifiable fast strong etc and can play fast is going to be a star.

I would say this though, we lost a generation and a half of white team sport athletes starting in the late 70s to early 2000s, they opted out of competing and went to other sports. This dynamic has changed  a little bit in recent years, especially in basketball, with the growth in AAU allowing for rural and suburban kids to play with and against urban players, as well as changes in emphasis during the game relative to the 3 pointer.   

[muwarrior69]

Just to give my two cents worth.....

In the days of my youth, I never played with or against a white athlete.  So I had a preconceived notion of what they were all about. When I got to college , it was the first time I experienced playing with, and against, whites. That experience quickly changed my ideas. The hardest hits I ever received , the real bell ringers, were from the  white players that came from that Western Pennsylvania/ Ohio corridor and guys who played for very large high schools in Michigan.
The three best players on my  team who went on to great Sunday success were all whites who fit that mold. Intensity and heart are also intangibles that cannot be ascribed by any race.

The thing I learned way back then was that there are two concepts of athleticism. One is theoretical based on track and field time and other quantifiable measurements . The second is based on the ability to play at a fast speed. Ever since those days, I have valued athletes based on the latter, irrespective of their race. A player who can play fast and make good decisions is worth his weight in gold. Obviously, a player who is quantifiable fast strong etc and can play fast is going to be a star.

I would say this though, we lost a generation and a half of white team sport athletes starting in the late 70s to early 2000s, they opted out of competing and went to other sports. This dynamic has changed  a little bit in recent years, especially in basketball, with the growth in AAU allowing for rural and suburban kids to play with and against urban players, as well as changes in emphasis during the game relative to the 3 pointer.

...and the prominence of the European kids who have caught up to their American counterparts in playing the game.

[Newsdreams]

Two stupid things:

++ An NBA team drafting a player because he is white to placate a racist fan base.

++ An NBA team "hedging its bets" by passing on a white player just because "odds" say the black guy would be better.

I'll bet a lot of NBA teams are happy they hedged their bets and went with the odds to pass on Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki!

Thought it was agreed in scoop to use traditional when referencing a white basketball player. Isn't this the recruiting thread? I'm confused!

[dgies9156]

With all due respect to some Scoopers in here, I stopped worrying about race in basketball right about the time Kareem Abdul-Jabbar demonstrated the ability to be the best basketball player known to mankind comes with an intellectual ability to understand society and to reason effectively.

There were many African Americans before Kareem, but Kareem was my generation. He was of the same mold as Bill Russell and, in football, Jim Brown.

It is disappointing to see this discussion in light of the fact that Al McGuire was a pioneer in integrating college basketball. Don't think for a minute that the feud between Adolph "the Bigot" Rupp and Al was anything but racial. Al was playing tough, African American athletes and more often than not got the best of the bigot and his all-white finness teams with street-ball style.

[Herman Cain]

Excellent Interview with Alex Antetokounmpo at the NBA Basketball without Borders event in Europe. He provides  a good self evaluation including his weaknesses and the things he needs to work on. Hopefully he continues to progress, I think this young man would represent MU well. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEbA0UXy64s

[MU82]

Excellent Interview with Alex Antetokounmpo at the NBA Basketball without Borders event in Europe. He provides  a good self evaluation including his weaknesses and the things he needs to work on. Hopefully he continues to progress, I think this young man would represent MU well. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEbA0UXy64s

He'd be a real prospect if he were white.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

And it's even more stupid than it is racist.

Yeah, the Dumbist element was even greater than the Racist element, somehow.

[tower912]

Time to let it go.

[wildbillsb]

"...with street-ball style."  ???

Rupp????  I don't think so.

McGuire????  I don't think so, either. 

Not the teams I watched for years coached by both men.