Recruiting as of 4/15/25

[rocky_warrior]

O-Max, Oso & Tyler are all Covid Sophs this season, and are all eligible to play in 24-25 if they choose. 
This messes with your Scholarship Table, but it is a true story.

They are Juniors this year,  and Marquette agrees:
https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster

But yes, they have the option of a extra year due to covid.  We'll deal with that if any decide to become a super-senior (I kinda' doubt it).

edit:  Also, we'd be -2 for 2024 if you assume they're all staying...and Damarius probably wouldn't have committed.

[Jay Bee]

They are Juniors this year,  and Marquette agrees:
https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster

But yes, they have the option of a extra year due to covid.  We'll deal with that if any decide to become a super-senior (I kinda' doubt it).

Their athletic year NCAA classification is SOPHOMORE. The extra covid year isn't an exercisable option, it's already been given.

[MuMark]

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2023/02/15/marquette-basketball-coach-shaka-smart-land-2024-wing-damarius-owens/69902989007/

[rocky_warrior]

Their athletic year NCAA classification is SOPHOMORE. The extra covid year isn't an exercisable option, it's already been given.

It is an option...by both an agreement for Marquette to give them an extra scholarship year, and them agreeing to stay on scholarship at Marquette.

And I won't argue with you about "NCAA classification", but Marquette lists them as Juniors, with Sophomore eligibility.  So there.

[94Warrior]

Their athletic year NCAA classification is SOPHOMORE. The extra covid year isn't an exercisable option, it's already been given.

Yep. 

As it stands, we are -1 for 23-24 and -2 for 24-25. 

Take it for what it's worth.  I would say there is a far better chance of Kolek playing in 24-25 than say 2 guys currently on scholarship, who aren't in the rotation.  Both of whom committed to Shaka at Texas, and things haven't exactly worked out for different reasons.

[BM1090]

Kolek will be here in 24-25. Oso and OMax won't.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Yep. 

As it stands, we are -1 for 23-24 and -2 for 24-25. 

Take it for what it's worth.  I would say there is a far better chance of Kolek playing in 24-25 than say 2 guys currently on scholarship, who aren't in the rotation.  Both of whom committed to Shaka at Texas, and things haven't exactly worked out for different reasons.

MU is actually -2 for 23-24 as it now stands.

[CountryRoads]

Kolek will be here in 24-25. Oso and OMax won't.

Though all 3 have eligibility to be here if they choose, no?

[Jay Bee]

It is an option...by both an agreement for Marquette to give them an extra scholarship year, and them agreeing to stay on scholarship at Marquette.

And I won't argue with you about "NCAA classification", but Marquette lists them as Juniors, with Sophomore eligibility.  So there.

Their NCAA classification is the topic - they are sophomores. MU welcoming them another year and them agreeing isn't relevant.

But, if you believe that, then why not call them a senior? Is Chase a senior? Smh

[MuMark]

MU is actually -2 for 23-24 as it now stands.

You must be counting Wrightsil.......don't see him here next season......unless something goofy happens.

[MU90620]

I find it interesting that so many people have such a strong opinion, one way or the other, on how the players with an extra year of eligibility due to Covid are classified. I can't think of anything that matters less. All that matters is how many years of eligibility they have left. Call them whatever you feel like.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Welcome Damarius

[Uncle Rico]

I find it interesting that so many people have such a strong opinion, one way or the other, on how the players with an extra year of eligibility due to Covid are classified. I can't think of anything that matters less. All that matters is how many years of eligibility they have left. Call them whatever you feel like.

Some people think kids commit to the school and not the staff

[StillAWarrior]

I'll preface this by saying I really like Stevie Mitchell -- he might be my favorite player on the team (neck and neck with TK). I think his contributions to the team are huge and we'd struggle on defense without him. But, I'll admit that I was a little surprised just now when looking at 247's all-time MU recruits list and seeing that Mitchell is the highest rated on the current team. Truly, I mean this as no disrespect to Stevie; I just didn't realize. As things stand now, Tre Norman will be the highest rated next season.

It's a bit remarkable how consistent the current roster and Shaka's recruits are on that list:

Norman (19/4*/0.9674)
Mitchell (21/4*/0.9638)
Ellis (27/4*/0.9453)
Joplin (28/4*/0.9387)
Ighodaro (29/4*/0.9366)
Amadou (30/3*/0.9340)
Lowery (32/3*/0.9313)
Owens (33/3*/0.9277)
S. Jones (36/3*/0.9216)
K. Jones (40/3*/0.9066)
Ross (41/3*/0.9028)
Itejere (44/3*/0.8896)

That's 12 guys all within 26 spots of each other on MU's rankings (and six of them within seven spots). It appears that maybe Shaka has a "type". Keep brining these guys in Shaka. And keep winning.

[94Warrior]

I find it interesting that so many people have such a strong opinion, one way or the other, on how the players with an extra year of eligibility due to Covid are classified. I can't think of anything that matters less. All that matters is how many years of eligibility they have left. Call them whatever you feel like.

That's exactly the point.  The scholarship table is designed to show how many years of eligibility remains, not to speculate when we might think someone is moving on, or what to call them.

I don't really care, because it it all straight in my head, but for others who look at the table for accurate info might care.

MU roster shows academic classification.  Scholarship table SHOULD show eligibility.  Rant over.

[rocky_warrior]

Their NCAA classification is the topic - they are sophomores. MU welcoming them another year and them agreeing isn't relevant.

But, if you believe that, then why not call them a senior? Is Chase a senior? Smh

Best I can tell, you semantically disagree with my calling them Juniors (which Marquette does), or possibly using the color "Red" for them next year.  I guess you'd prefer they all get to double up on one color just because the NCAA randomly decided not to count a year when they were actually on scholarship and attending school?  Anyhow, the table accurately reflects the number of years they have had a NCAA Div-I scholarship, and they'll get an extra "Red" year with an asterisk if any actually stay an extra year.

Sorry if you don't like it.  Damarius - hopefully you're not reconsidering your decision now!

[Jay Bee]

Some people think kids commit to the school and not the staff

It's not a "think" or opinion area. It's factual.

Those who sign an NLI absolutely do. They sign a binding contractual agreement that states this.

The official NLI site makes this clear, including their FAQ:

"Yes. The NLI you signed with an institution remains binding if the coach who recruited you leaves the institution with which you signed. When you sign an NLI, you sign with an institution and not with a coach or a specific team."

[Jay Bee]

They are Juniors this year,  and Marquette agrees:
https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster

A roster posting on gomarquette.com doesn't mean MU agrees on their NCAA eligibility classification. Last year they called this year's "juniors" "freshmen":

https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/2021-22?path=mbball

[rocky_warrior]

A roster posting on gomarquette.com doesn't mean MU agrees on their NCAA eligibility classification. Last year they called this year's "juniors" "freshmen":

https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/2021-22?path=mbball

I already mentioned, if you go to this years roster on MU's site, and select table view, it lists both "Year" (Junior) and "Eligibility" (Sophomore). 

edit: Oh look, NCAA stats list them as Juniors too! hah. 
https://stats.ncaa.org/team/387/roster/16060

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

At least we're finally breaking some of the NCAA rules--maybe thats why we are good again?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

https://twitter.com/coachcodyhatt/status/1625918821692325888?s=61&t=NKWtuB0tsMpgV7ajccRAXA

The last time the coaches tweeted something like this, they were comparing Kolek to Diener. I really really really hope that this is what Coach Hatt is doing and that he's not overselling

[SaveOD238]

Just so I understand correctly...

I only see 12 scholarship players on the roster this season.  Is Lucas on schollie right now, because that would make 13?  But he will lose it next year to one of the incoming freshmen?

[Uncle Rico]

It's not a "think" or opinion area. It's factual.

Those who sign an NLI absolutely do. They sign a binding contractual agreement that states this.

The official NLI site makes this clear, including their FAQ:

"Yes. The NLI you signed with an institution remains binding if the coach who recruited you leaves the institution with which you signed. When you sign an NLI, you sign with an institution and not with a coach or a specific team."

😂

[rocky_warrior]

I only see 12 scholarship players on the roster this season.  Is Lucas on schollie right now, because that would make 13?  But he will lose it next year to one of the incoming freshmen?

I don't *think* we ever got an announcement that he was awarded the extra scholarship.  Would make sense that he's got one this year, or maybe Marquette got cheap :p

[MuMark]

The last time the coaches tweeted something like this, they were comparing Kolek to Diener. I really really really hope that this is what Coach Hatt is doing and that he's not overselling

I think coach Hatt is just having some fun.......he's happy they got a commitment from a guy they wanted........I wouldn't read anything more then that into it.