Recruiting as of 5/15/24

[buckchuckler]

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[Golden Avalanche]

At least this old timer was around MU's golden age of basketball when men could slug it out in the locker room or even with the coach without quitting the team or disciplined. I was around when players or coach's could express their opinions or wear t-shirts without fear of getting fired; or Editors losing their job because the news reporters at their newspaper did not like the opinion of an editorial.  Its the times we live in and Scoop is just a microcosm. At least here we can express unpopular opinions, and I hope Scoop sticks around because I would miss it.

Omitting 99% of what happened in those instances is not a good look for the foundation of your opinion.

To stay on thread, recruiting is an exercise in habit these days. Everything is at a standstill.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

And Gundy wasn't in trouble simply because he wore an OAN shirt.  That became obvious from all the Tweets from alums of the program that followed.  Same with Iowa.

If anything, this movement is allowing people who have had bad experiences to be empowered to speak out.  And that's good!  Coaches who have built a comfortable little empire aren't untouchable.  And they should run their programs ethically.

This isn't a widespread movement against college football coaches.  I'm sure there are plenty of coaches that have a zero tolerance for racial statements, etc.  (Sad sentence to have to type.)  In fact the number of coaches that AREN'T being called out is much greater than those who are.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Since there's been flurry of activity in the past few days, here's a list of all the recent contacts (credit to mostly muguru for posting them here as they come in):

2021:
Lucas Taylor: SG from NC, ranked #132 by Rivals.
Kameron Jones: PG from TN, unranked by 247. Only high major offers are MU and Florida

2022:
Gradey Dick: SF from KS, ranked #34 by 247
Kamari Lands SF from IN, ranked #37 by 247
Camden Heide: SF from MN, ranked #39 by 247
Roddy Gayle: SG from NY, ranked #43 by 247
Justin Taylor SF from VA, ranked #48 by 247
Noah Batchelor: SF from MD, ranked #52 by 247
Rodney Rice: CG from MD, ranked #54 by 247
Prince Aligbe: SF from MN, ranked #58 by 247
Judah Mintz: PG from DC, ranked #61 by 247
Zocko Littleton: PG from GA, ranked #64 by 247.
Ty Rodgers: SF from MI, ranked # 65 by 247
Jameel Brown CG from PA, ranekd #71 by 247
Willie Lightfoot: PG from KS, ranked #84 by 247
Mason Manning: PG from MS, ranked #87 by 247
JJ Starling: PG from NY, ranked #91 by Rivals
Tamin Lipsey: PG from IA, ranked #93 by 247
Kendall Blue: SG from MN, ranked #93 on Rivals
Alex Karaban: SF from NH, ranked #99 by Rivals
Jasen Green: SF from NE, ranked #116 by Rivals
Jaquan Harris: PG from NJ, ranked #125 by Rivals
Perry Smith Jr SF from SC, ranked #145 by Rivals
Jaden Schutt: SG from IL, ranked #146 by Rivals
Fletcher Loyer: SG from MI, unranked by 247. High major offers from Michigan, Nebraska, and Purdue
Kyle Filipowski: C from MA, unranked by 247. High major offers from UCLA, UConn, Maryland, Providence, and Xavier
JaVaughn Hannah: SG from MI, ranked by 247. High major offers from MU, TAMU, Arizona State, Ole Miss, DePaul, and Washington State
Elvis Nnaji: PF rom MN, unranked by 247. High major offers from MU and Minnesota
Trey Pettigrew: CG from IL, unranked by 247. High major offers from Illinois and Penn State
Danilo Jovanovich SF from WI, unranked by 247. No high major offers
Leon Bond: SF from WI, unranked by 247. No high major offers
Jeffrey Brazziel: SF from WI, unranked by 247. No high major offers
Nik Graves: PG from NC, unranked by 247. No high major offers
Jack Rose: SG from WI, unranked by 247. No high major offers
Cade Tyson: SF from NC, unranked by 247. No high major offers
Danny Wolf PF from IL, unranked by 247. No high major offers

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Nice
Thx TAMU

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I have a few first thoughts as I look at that list all together.

1. Either Wojo is very confident about landing a big man in 2021, or he is fully embracing the small ball strategy. Only 1 C and 2 PFs on that entire list, and all 3 of those are currently unranked by both 247 and Rivals
2. Those who had concerns that Wojo isn't checking in on local talent can rest easy. Staying in contact with a bunch of recruits from the area who aren't at high major level yet but may develop there
3. I think Wojo has offered Kendall Brown's entire team at Sunrise Academy. Didn't work with Jalen Johnson, maybe it will work here.
4. This one comes with a huge grain of salt because I think the pandemic will have a huge impact on the accuracy of recruiting services, but it seems Wojo may be settling into the same recruiting sweet spot that Crean and Buzz did. 3 and 4 star recruits, topping out at #30 and ranging down to the 300s. In past years, Wojo spent a lot of time on home runs that never panned out (Grimes, Mannion, Suggs, etc). Maybe he's embraced focusing on the top talent in the next layer and developing it. This list is hardly definitive proof, just musing out loud

[Its DJOver]

I have a few first thoughts as I look at that list all together.

1. Either Wojo is very confident about landing a big man in 2021, or he is fully embracing the small ball strategy. Only 1 C and 2 PFs on that entire list, and all 3 of those are currently unranked by both 247 and Rivals
2. Those who had concerns that Wojo isn't checking in on local talent can rest easy. Staying in contact with a bunch of recruits from the area who aren't at high major level yet but may develop there
3. I think Wojo has offered Kendall Brown's entire team at Sunrise Academy. Didn't work with Jalen Johnson, maybe it will work here.
4. This one comes with a huge grain of salt because I think the pandemic will have a huge impact on the accuracy of recruiting services, but it seems Wojo may be settling into the same recruiting sweet spot that Crean and Buzz did. 3 and 4 star recruits, topping out at #30 and ranging down to the 300s. In past years, Wojo spent a lot of time on home runs that never panned out (Grimes, Mannion, Suggs, etc). Maybe he's embraced focusing on the top talent in the next layer and developing it. This list is hardly definitive proof, just musing out loud

Was just going to comment on this.  Maybe all those posts about how bridges have been burned regarding in-state recruiting have been overblown hey?

[4everwarriors]

I wonder how self aware you are.  You post nothing but 'witty' commentary.

I'm not excusing their behavior, but come on man.

As far as I know there is no Scoop rule prohibiting "witty" comments. As for political comments, that's a horse of a different feather, aina?

[IrwinFletcher]

2022:

Noah Batchelor: SF from MD, ranked #52 by 247

Prince Aligbe: SF from MN, ranked #58 by 247


Really hope we get these two guys!

[tower912]

As far as I know there is no Scoop rule prohibiting "witty" comments. As for political comments, that's a horse of a different feather, aina?

If there is no prohibition, what has been stopping you from making a comment approaching witty?

[MU82]

As far as I know there is no Scoop rule prohibiting "witty" comments. As for political comments, that's a horse of a different feather, aina?

eye dohnt unnerstand wat ewe r sayin heer, hey-ho?

[mug644]

I have a few first thoughts as I look at that list all together.

1. Either Wojo is very confident about landing a big man in 2021, or he is fully embracing the small ball strategy. Only 1 C and 2 PFs on that entire list, and all 3 of those are currently unranked by both 247 and Rivals
2. Those who had concerns that Wojo isn't checking in on local talent can rest easy. Staying in contact with a bunch of recruits from the area who aren't at high major level yet but may develop there
3. I think Wojo has offered Kendall Brown’s entire team at Sunrise Academy. Didn't work with Jalen Johnson, maybe it will work here.
4. This one comes with a huge grain of salt because I think the pandemic will have a huge impact on the accuracy of recruiting services, but it seems Wojo may be settling into the same recruiting sweet spot that Crean and Buzz did. 3 and 4 star recruits, topping out at #30 and ranging down to the 300s. In past years, Wojo spent a lot of time on home runs that never panned out (Grimes, Mannion, Suggs, etc). Maybe he's embraced focusing on the top talent in the next layer and developing it. This list is hardly definitive proof, just musing out loud

Great list and supplemental info. I don’t see a Kendall Brown on your list, though. I see Jameel Brown and Kendall Blue. Are you referring to one of them in your observations?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Great list and supplemental info. I don’t see a Kendall Brown on your list, though. I see Jameel Brown and Kendall Blue. Are you referring to one of them in your observations?

Kendall Brown is a 5-star 2021 recruit that has been MU's top target in that class for awhile. He's not on the list I posted because he wasn't one of the new contacts in the past week.

[muguru]

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The most recent programs to contact 2022 Jason Drake of Orchard Lake St Mary’s (MI) since the direct contact period commenced:

Michigan State
Marquette
Cincinnati
Ohio U.
Western Michigan
VCU

[muguru]

Since there's been flurry of activity in the past few days, here's a list of all the recent contacts (credit to mostly muguru for posting them here as they come in):

2021:
Lucas Taylor: SG from NC, ranked #132 by Rivals.
Kameron Jones: PG from TN, unranked by 247. Only high major offers are MU and Florida

2022:
Gradey Dick: SF from KS, ranked #34 by 247
Kamari Lands SF from IN, ranked #37 by 247
Camden Heide: SF from MN, ranked #39 by 247
Roddy Gayle: SG from NY, ranked #43 by 247
Justin Taylor SF from VA, ranked #48 by 247
Noah Batchelor: SF from MD, ranked #52 by 247
Rodney Rice: CG from MD, ranked #54 by 247
Prince Aligbe: SF from MN, ranked #58 by 247
Judah Mintz: PG from DC, ranked #61 by 247
Zocko Littleton: PG from GA, ranked #64 by 247.
Ty Rodgers: SF from MI, ranked # 65 by 247
Jameel Brown CG from PA, ranekd #71 by 247
Willie Lightfoot: PG from KS, ranked #84 by 247
Mason Manning: PG from MS, ranked #87 by 247
JJ Starling: PG from NY, ranked #91 by Rivals
Tamin Lipsey: PG from IA, ranked #93 by 247
Kendall Blue: SG from MN, ranked #93 on Rivals
Alex Karaban: SF from NH, ranked #99 by Rivals
Jasen Green: SF from NE, ranked #116 by Rivals
Jaquan Harris: PG from NJ, ranked #125 by Rivals
Perry Smith Jr SF from SC, ranked #145 by Rivals
Jaden Schutt: SG from IL, ranked #146 by Rivals
Fletcher Loyer: SG from MI, unranked by 247. High major offers from Michigan, Nebraska, and Purdue
Kyle Filipowski: C from MA, unranked by 247. High major offers from UCLA, UConn, Maryland, Providence, and Xavier
JaVaughn Hannah: SG from MI, ranked by 247. High major offers from MU, TAMU, Arizona State, Ole Miss, DePaul, and Washington State
Elvis Nnaji: PF rom MN, unranked by 247. High major offers from MU and Minnesota
Trey Pettigrew: CG from IL, unranked by 247. High major offers from Illinois and Penn State
Danilo Jovanovich SF from WI, unranked by 247. No high major offers
Leon Bond: SF from WI, unranked by 247. No high major offers
Jeffrey Brazziel: SF from WI, unranked by 247. No high major offers
Nik Graves: PG from NC, unranked by 247. No high major offers
Jack Rose: SG from WI, unranked by 247. No high major offers
Cade Tyson: SF from NC, unranked by 247. No high major offers
Danny Wolf PF from IL, unranked by 247. No high major offers

Outstanding work TAMU, thanks for doing this...I was going to do it myself, so you just saved me a ton of work. 

[muguru]

https://twitter.com/triplejay0/status/1273404114060431363?s=20

[Afroman]

I don't understand recruiting. I see a dozen tweets from players excitedly announcing their "offer" from Marquette. What would happen if a dozen players all said at the same time, "That's great, Marquette. I accept your offer!"

[Hards Alumni]

I don't understand recruiting. I see a dozen tweets from players excitedly announcing their "offer" from Marquette. What would happen if a dozen players all said at the same time, "That's great, Marquette. I accept your offer!"

All offers are contingent upon other offers.  There is a pecking order.

[lawdog77]

I don't understand recruiting. I see a dozen tweets from players excitedly announcing their "offer" from Marquette. What would happen if a dozen players all said at the same time, "That's great, Marquette. I accept your offer!"

We change our name to Texas Tech.

[Stretchdeltsig]

All offers are contingent upon other offers.  There is a pecking order.

I agree that making "numerous offers" seems to devalue them. Prefer to see offers that mean something and ask for a prompt acceptance or denial. The "too numerous" offer approach is expensive and too time consuming.

[wadesworld]

I agree that making "numerous offers" seems to devalue them. Prefer to see offers that mean something and ask for a prompt acceptance or denial. The "too numerous" offer approach is expensive and too time consuming.

That would be a good way to end up with a roster full of low major talent.

[Stretchdeltsig]

That would be a good way to end up with a roster full of low major talent.

Bucky does okay with that method. They put their energy into molding them into a team and coaching them up. As opposed to a group of more talented players who want to turn pro asap and/or are unhappy with playing time.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Bucky does okay with that method. They put their energy into molding them into a team and coaching them up. As opposed to a group of more talented players who want to turn pro asap and/or are unhappy with playing time.

Bucky doesn't have as many spots to fill.  I think they only have one left for 2021 so they can be selective.

But when they do have a larger number of openings, they pretty much do the same thing.  And the idea that they don't have talent and are simply "coached up" is largely a myth.

[Hards Alumni]

Bucky does okay with that method. They put their energy into molding them into a team and coaching them up. As opposed to a group of more talented players who want to turn pro asap and/or are unhappy with playing time.

Name another that does it well and is a successful high major.

[Galway Eagle]

Bucky doesn't have as many spots to fill.  I think they only have one left for 2021 so they can be selective.

But when they do have a larger number of openings, they pretty much do the same thing.  And the idea that they don't have talent and are simply "coached up" is largely a myth.

While they certainly have talent and get their share of former top 100s I do think they still get more out of player than most schools do.