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Mr. Sand-Knit

Agreed tho we need a backup 5 and someone to provide relief at the 1.  My guess is the coaches realize that something has to be done at the 1.  Move Koby to the 3 and play his as a seldom used back up PG and possibly add depth at the PG.  if koby doesnt want to play off the ball he has the grad transfer option and can go back to his mid major comfort level. 
Its amazing the ascension of Providence after they finally settled in with a capable PG.  MU is a top 10 team with a PG on this team that isnt as terrible as Koby.  Simply the worst in the BE.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

mileskishnish72

Quote from: The Lens on March 03, 2020, 01:29:54 PM
If we're in the tourney next year, then I'm team Wojo moving forward.  It's not an impossible task but it's gonna take some coaching up.

Who's been coached up lately? Sacar, perhaps. I'm having trouble coming up with other candidates.

wadesworld

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on March 03, 2020, 02:28:44 PM
Who's been coached up lately? Sacar, perhaps. I'm having trouble coming up with other candidates.

I mean, if Sacar is only a "perhaps," then nobody.  If you haven't seen improvement in Sacar you won't find it in anyone Wojo has coached (or really many players in the entire country).

willie warrior

Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 03, 2020, 01:12:56 PM
I think we all need to prepare for a .500 season next year.
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But wait....thought the overwhelming narrative here is that Wojo has us trending upward.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

BCHoopster

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 03, 2020, 02:12:34 PM
Whos better logterman, jackson or mcewen?

The real question is, here are 3 point guards, do you want any of them starting?

wadesworld

Quote from: willie warrior on March 03, 2020, 02:39:36 PM
But wait....thought the overwhelming narrative here is that Wojo has us trending upward.

He does.

But cancel next season.  Trend is downward.  .500 team.  No need to play the season.  On March 3, 2020, we know what our team is for the 2020-2021 season, and it's not good.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: manesworld on March 03, 2020, 02:41:18 PM
On March 3, 2020, we know what our team is for the 2020-2021 season, and it's not good.
The PG position (as of today) looks very bad especially for a team with young talent that will need solid leadership on the court. I've not seen any Wojo players take big leaps in ability over the years so to expect significant improvements is wishful thinking. I don't look forward to a .500 season, but I feel a fair expectation of Wojo and the team is .500.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 03, 2020, 03:36:00 PM
The PG position (as of today) looks very bad especially for a team with young talent that will need solid leadership on the court. I've not seen any Wojo players take big leaps in ability over the years so to expect significant improvements is wishful thinking. I don't look forward to a .500 season, but I feel a fair expectation of Wojo and the team is .500.

This sesason isn't done. Recruiting isn't done. Grad transfers haven't happened. This is like saying you think you'll shoot -18 in golf after making a birdie on the first hole. Take a deep breath.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

wadesworld

I'll just say right now, anybody who doesn't think Sacar made SIGNIFICANT strides while at Marquette isn't even worth engaging in a discussion with.  That is the definition of "ignorance is bliss."

You can argue there aren't enough Sacar's for Wojo to point to, but to say "perhaps" Sacar developed as a player or to say "nobody" has made strides in their time under Wojo is just flat wrong, as Sacar is far more of a player than I think anybody would've reasonably imagined he would be by his senior year at Marquette.

Goose

manes

I agree. Sacar is one of the best improvement stories at MU in quite some time. I never would have believed he would play this well.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 03, 2020, 03:40:58 PM
This sesason isn't done. Recruiting isn't done. Grad transfers haven't happened. This is like saying you think you'll shoot -18 in golf after making a birdie on the first hole. Take a deep breath.
Fair enough, but I'd say we're at the turn or on the back 9 and not on the 2nd hole when it comes to building next year's team.(2 out of 13 spots available?).

Markusquette

Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 03, 2020, 03:36:00 PM
The PG position (as of today) looks very bad especially for a team with young talent that will need solid leadership on the court. I've not seen any Wojo players take big leaps in ability over the years so to expect significant improvements is wishful thinking. I don't look forward to a .500 season, but I feel a fair expectation of Wojo and the team is .500.

I think we will have to get a lot of big-time contribution from the newcomers next year. Unless Wojo secures a grad transfer to help lead I don't see the upperclassmen leading the team next year. So I do agree. Or else Torrence will have to take a big step forward too.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: manesworld on March 03, 2020, 03:49:53 PM
I'll just say right now, anybody who doesn't think Sacar made SIGNIFICANT strides while at Marquette isn't even worth engaging in a discussion with.  That is the definition of "ignorance is bliss."

You can argue there aren't enough Sacar's for Wojo to point to, but to say "perhaps" Sacar developed as a player or to say "nobody" has made strides in their time under Wojo is just flat wrong, as Sacar is far more of a player than I think anybody would've reasonably imagined he would be by his senior year at Marquette.
I agree. My comments earlier about significant improvements in players was referring to year-to-year as I was speaking about next year's team. I think many players have improved over the years with Wojo but it has been a slow, steady growth.

BCHoopster

Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 03, 2020, 04:20:02 PM
Fair enough, but I'd say we're at the turn or on the back 9 and not on the 2nd hole when it comes to building next year's team.(2 out of 13 spots available?).

Wojo good or bad has been able to get a grad transfer or transfer every year, this year will probably be no different.  That will be know in 2 months much like Mane.


Also, I would say every player improves somewhat from year to year.  Markus could not play any D as a freshman.  He has improved that part of the game, for sure.
The other kids have improved, they just have not made the big jump like Sacar has.  Not many kids have been at MU for 5 years either.  I expect a big jump from Syr
next year, biggest improvement usually comes after there freshman year.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Retire0 on March 02, 2020, 11:04:41 PM
DM is a great time. Very underrated.

some of the best brisket I've ever had. A place called Flying Mango. The best part is we got our food and started eating. The brisket was tasty. Then the waitress came back with full plates with meat that had just been finished, she figured this would be better, but we could keep what we already had.  The new stuff was right up there with anything I'd had in Texas.
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WhiteTrash

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 03, 2020, 04:29:17 PM
Wojo good or bad has been able to get a grad transfer or transfer every year, this year will probably be no different.  That will be know in 2 months much like Mane.


Also, I would say every player improves somewhat from year to year.  Markus could not play any D as a freshman.  He has improved that part of the game, for sure.
The other kids have improved, they just have not made the big jump like Sacar has.  Not many kids have been at MU for 5 years either.  I expect a big jump from Syr
next year, biggest improvement usually comes after there freshman year.
I agree, there is the potential to land a quality PG for next year which will help immensely. But as it looks today, this is a .500 in the Big East with MH, SA and JJ, I think we'll be well below .500 in the Big East next year without them. IMO, expectations of post-season basketball next year is unfair to Wojo and the team.

Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: Markusquette on March 03, 2020, 04:23:30 PM
I think we will have to get a lot of big-time contribution from the newcomers next year. Unless Wojo secures a grad transfer to help lead I don't see the upperclassmen leading the team next year. So I do agree. Or else Torrence will have to take a big step forward too.

Disagree. We have an outstanding recruiting class coming in that will make an immediate impact.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 03, 2020, 02:00:18 PM
The year I'd be more concerned about is two years from now. Next year we still have a very experienced team with at least 1 ready contributor. The year after we could potentially lose 4 graduates, and potentially Dawson if he's as good as it seems most McDonald's all Americans seem to be now days.

Not a huge fan of the leftovers unless Bailey comes out looking like his dad next year.

Really?

Don't get me wrong there are some ? marks. But that would be Lewis and Oso as sophmores, Torrence as a upper classman guard and Bailey as a senior. We would definitely need Garcia back but thats a solid foundation before factoring any additional pieces. Greg would also be a senior contributor.

Next year we will lose Theo(will miss the D but the O is clearly replaceable), Koby(lol), Cain(I've always been more pro Cain but hes still just role guy)
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Mr. Sand-Knit

Sacar has gotten exponentially better, problem is he still isnt very good.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

BCHoopster

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 03, 2020, 08:00:27 PM
Sacar has gotten exponentially better, problem is he still isnt very good.

Best line of the night, not playing like a 5th year senior!

Mr. Sand-Knit

Literally every loose ball!!
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 03, 2020, 08:06:28 PM
Best line of the night, not playing like a 5th year senior!
What about recruiting?

Aircraftcarrier

Desert Vista up 12 at half in State Championship game.Osa with 19

muguru

Quote from: manesworld on March 03, 2020, 02:41:18 PM
He does.

But cancel next season.  Trend is downward.  .500 team.  No need to play the season.  On March 3, 2020, we know what our team is for the 2020-2021 season, and it's not good.

Really?? You're coming here tonight, and doing this?? Really?? You owe this board an explanation on how you can keep defending this crap show. I'm serious..how??
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Aircraftcarrier

Would really be a shame if we lose Garcia and Ighodaro.Ighodaro dominating the State Final on both ends of the court.

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