Recruiting as of 4/15/25

[willie warrior]

The place is a dump. Indiana hasn't won the NCAAs in over three decades. The B1G hasn't won the NCAA this century. They may be selling that but it is pretty flimsy.

Archie, the new facilities, his buddies, basketball culture in Indiana, negative recruiting will be bigger factors. More so, Badger fans are less delusional about their program's place in history. What recruit in 2019, especially one from MN, makes his decision based on clown pants and the Mop Lady?

Well......MU hasnt won an NCAA in over 4 decades, so guess which school is more current in that department?

[muguru]

Just a reminder to everyone...so far it's been okay, but over the next couple of weeks, let's all be VERY careful with what we say in regards to the Garcia family etc. You never know who reads these boards, and with this being a potential program turning recruit..let's just err on the side of caution.

[brewcity77]

Where did you get this notion that MU would have the chance for the best dorms in the country...let alone paid for?  When I took my daughter to visit UCSB with the dorm having an outside swimming pool, hearing the ocean waves, etc....I just cannot quite buy into the claim.

It was in the Pilarz days. The same times that Larry Williams was waxing poetic about how in his Notre Dame days, the players dormed with G-pop, so let's have the basketball team stay at Carpenter with broken AC.

I am not sure why a player would turn own an official visit. The only reason for a recruit to rush a commitment is when the school is down to its last scholarship with more than one option to fill it.

I don't think it was turning the visit down, but rather hoping for a commitment to Marquette and taking the visit later in the year, say during Villanova or Seton Hall weekend.

[JakeBarnes]

It's Nov 8th-10th. The Bucks are on the road then.

Actually, this is pretty brilliant. Dead period is the 11th. Wojo and staff will literally get the last say before signing period.

As I have stated many times before: really want Wojo to close. Dawson would do amazingly in our system.

[The Sultan]

Assembly Hall is old, but it is unique.  Great atmosphere for basketball.  Archie can spin that just as Wojo can spin Fiserv.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Dies anyone under the age of 60 play pickle ball?
The Dawsons Garcias were also wildly impressed by the weekly square dances and pinochle club.

I had to look up what pickle ball is.  The research and pictures all confirm that the answer to your question is "no".

[Galway Eagle]

Just a reminder to everyone...so far it's been okay, but over the next couple of weeks, let's all be VERY careful with what we say in regards to the Garcia family etc. You never know who reads these boards, and with this being a potential program turning recruit..let's just err on the side of caution.

Do you think you'll be able to stop yourself from disparaging anyone under 40 for two weeks? Because you know even recruits fall into that category

[MU82]

Thrilled that the next Warrior has made our alma mater the last stop on his tour. He will look awesome in blue and gold!

I'm thinking so many positive thoughts that I will take the big step of not changing my Scoop handle.

Welcome, Dawson. We are Marquette!

[Spotcheck Billy]

I had to look up what pickle ball is.  The research and pictures all confirm that the answer to your question is "no".

don't tell JB that

[muguru]

Do you think you'll be able to stop yourself from disparaging anyone under 40 for two weeks? Because you know even recruits fall into that category

I dont ever criticize players or recruits

[Cheeks]

It was in the Pilarz days. The same times that Larry Williams was waxing poetic about how in his Notre Dame days, the players dormed with G-pop, so let's have the basketball team stay at Carpenter with broken AC.

That's a far cry from someone saying we could have had the best dorms in the country.  If I recall, part of what you are describing was a punishment...same reason IU didn't get to stay in their new digs for a period of time because their players were in trouble.  For the better half of the last 20 years or so the team has stayed at Humphrey Hall with a nice setup.

[Cheeks]

The place is a dump. Indiana hasn't won the NCAAs in over three decades. The B1G hasn't won the NCAA this century. They may be selling that but it is pretty flimsy.

Archie, the new facilities, his buddies, basketball culture in Indiana, negative recruiting will be bigger factors. More so, Badger fans are less delusional about their program's place in history. What recruit in 2019, especially one from MN, makes his decision based on clown pants and the Mop Lady?

When is the last time you were there?  It was definitely a dump, but they poured $45M into it in 2016 to give it a nice facelift.

[Dr. Blackheart]

When is the last time you were there?  It was definitely a dump, but they poured $45M into it in 2016 to give it a nice facelift.

Okay...it's a slightly nicer dump, wooden bleachers and all. Of all the arenas in the B1G, where do you rate it?  Maybe 10th-12th? The Kohl Hole may be the best in the B1G.

My point is IU fans treat it like it's the magical Castle of Oz.  It hasn't been for decades.  It's like pouring money into the Mecca and saying it's has one of the richest traditions in basketball. The FF is one of the, if not the, best college basketball facilities in the country. Not even close to AH.

[Boozemon Barro]

Getting the last visit makes him a MU lock IMO.

[4everwarriors]

This is likely a decision between playing for Woj vs Miller and who Dawson thinks gives him the best shot at the Association. Da rest don't matta, hey?

[shoothoops]

Mods,

Would it be possible to have two separate recruiting threads? One can be labeled MU recruiting news. One can be labeled recruiting discussion. This is a sincere request, thanks.

[Pakuni]

This is likely a decision between playing for Woj vs Miller and who Dawson thinks gives him the best shot at the Association. Da rest don't matta, hey?

More likely the decision between playing for Marquette or Indiana, and which program gives him the best shot at the Association. a lot more goes into that than just the head coach (i.e. playing time, how a player would be used in the team's system, strength and training program, etc.).

[MuMark]

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/three-point-play-jj-traynor-dawson-garcia-juco-matchup

[Galway Eagle]

I dont ever criticize players or recruits

Only his entire generation. I'm sure he reads the fine print when you're hating on all youths that you're not talking about potential MU recruits

[wadesworld]

I'm thinking it comes down to how comfortable he is with the players in the Marquette program.  He's built his relationship with the coaching staffs of each program, he's seen both programs' facilities, and he's heard the recruiting pitches.  If he was so blown away by IU's facilities that he can't pass them up unless Marquette can match them, well, he wouldn't bother visiting because he's already seen everything Marquette has to offer on his first official visit.  He knows the recruiting pitch for both programs.  My guess is that he's more comfortable with the IU team since he played with some of those guys previously, so he wants to see how he fits in at Marquette.  My hope is the MN connection with Theo and Sacar helps and then he gets along with the underclassmen he'll be here with.  Would be great if they could get Lewis on campus the same weekend as they've built a relationship through USA Basketball as well.

[Galway Eagle]

I'm thinking it comes down to how comfortable he is with the players in the Marquette program.  He's built his relationship with the coaching staffs of each program, he's seen both programs' facilities, and he's heard the recruiting pitches.  If he was so blown away by IU's facilities that he can't pass them up unless Marquette can match them, well, he wouldn't bother visiting because he's already seen everything Marquette has to offer on his first official visit.  He knows the recruiting pitch for both programs.  My guess is that he's more comfortable with the IU team since he played with some of those guys previously, so he wants to see how he fits in at Marquette.  My hope is the MN connection with Theo and Sacar helps and then he gets along with the underclassmen he'll be here with.  Would be great if they could get Lewis on campus the same weekend as they've built a relationship through USA Basketball as well.

I think the Lewis thing is big because it helps us counter that point about him having played with some of those IU guys before. I doubt he has had much interaction with Sacar or Theo as it's a big age difference but still always nice to have some hometown guys.

I think it's probably much more in the air than either side wants to admit right now.

[Herman Cain]

This is likely a decision between playing for Woj vs Miller and who Dawson thinks gives him the best shot at the Association. Da rest don't matta, hey?

I agree with this analysis.

[MU82]

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/three-point-play-jj-traynor-dawson-garcia-juco-matchup

They've got four-star forwards Justin Lewis and Osasare Ighodaro committed so adding Garcia would be a luxury.

Interesting take. I disagree, but whatevs.

[brewcity77]

That's a far cry from someone saying we could have had the best dorms in the country.  If I recall, part of what you are describing was a punishment...same reason IU didn't get to stay in their new digs for a period of time because their players were in trouble.  For the better half of the last 20 years or so the team has stayed at Humphrey Hall with a nice setup.

Not really. It was an offer to provide land and pay for a Coal Lodge style dorm that would have been at least among the best basketball dorms in the country.

And turning down a gift worth, conservatively, tens of millions of dollars, would be a really dumb punishment. Just one more reason the Pilarz/Williams tenure was an unmitigated disaster for Marquette basketball.

[LAZER]

More likely the decision between playing for Marquette or Indiana, and which program gives him the best shot at the Association. a lot more goes into that than just the head coach (i.e. playing time, how a player would be used in the team's system, strength and training program, etc.).

Agreed. If it was just simply about a coach getting him to the NBA, he probably wouldn't be deciding between MU & IU.