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MU82

Quote from: muguru on September 17, 2019, 11:46:23 AM
Semantics...if you aren't in his final 7, you obviously have ZERO chance of getting him. And the ONLY reason they wouldn't be in his final 7 would be the Osa commit..That would absolutely infuriate me..

That's kinda silly, guru.

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 17, 2019, 11:50:34 AM

I get all of that.  You are saying that MU shouldn't have taken / pushed off the Osa commit because they potentially could have had a 1/7 shot at Garcia? 

This.

Quote from: JakeBarnes on September 17, 2019, 11:58:48 AM
If Marquette lost Garcia due to the Osa commit, it signals Garcia thinks he can't beat out Osa. That either says a lot about Osa or a lot about Garcia.

That said, I think Marquette at least makes the seven.

And this.

Quote from: MuMark on September 17, 2019, 12:02:25 PM
Happy to have Osa.......Garcia is good enough that it shouldn't factor in .....if it does best of luck to him at North Carolina or Indiana where I'm sure there will be no other quality players that he will have to compete with..... ::)

Some people worry to much about this crap.........

It's just entertainment........hope we are in his final 7 but if we aren't then we aren't.


He's had months to move this process along.........you can't wait forever when quality players want to verbal and you have 5 or 6 spots to fill.

And definitely this.

You don't put off a potentially outstanding recruit on the off chance that you might land somebody who might be better.

I mean, guru, what would you have said if Wojo told Osa to sit tight, Garcia didn't choose us 1 or 4 or 7 months from now, and Osa got tired of waiting and signed elsewhere?

"Wojo couldn't even get a guy in the second half of the top-100! Mediocre!"

And now, what would you be saying 2-3 years from now if Osa turned out to be a stud playing for somebody else?

"Fire Wojo! He had Osa but blew it!"
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Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on September 17, 2019, 12:19:54 PM
This is the backup name for this place should we ever lose the MUScoop naming rights.

I just trademarked "Inside the Blather" and "Hanging with the Insane" in anticipation of the rebranding.

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Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 17, 2019, 12:57:07 PM
I just trademarked "Inside the Blather" and "Hanging with the Insane" in anticipation of the rebranding.

😂

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Duke or Kentucky can tell a player like Osa to sit tight while they wait for Garcia. We can't. If it costs us Garcia (very doubtful, IMO), so be it.

MuMark

#20379
Unreal......Osa didn't keep,us out of the top 7........hard to believe......

https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1174037582209961984?s=21

Pakuni


MuMark

So Texas got an official but didn't make his top 7..........#Shaka

JakeBarnes

Quote from: MuMark on September 17, 2019, 02:10:47 PM
Unreal......Osa didn't keep,us out of the top 7........hard to believe......

https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1174037582209961984?s=21

Wojo only gets the easy top 7s.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: MuMark on September 17, 2019, 02:10:47 PM
Unreal......Osa didn't keep,us out of the top 7........hard to believe......

https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1174037582209961984?s=21
Not to worry, guru will find something else to be prematurely furious about.
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cheebs09

Quote from: MuMark on September 17, 2019, 02:10:47 PM
Unreal......Osa didn't keep,us out of the top 7........hard to believe......

https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1174037582209961984?s=21

That parrot and the slight lean towards it makes me think he's a Kansas lean at the moment.

shoothoops

Quote from: MuMark on September 17, 2019, 02:16:32 PM
So Texas got an official but didn't make his top 7..........#Shaka

Texas was his first offer of all of those in the mix. Memphis was his most recent offer as they have been trying to make a big push late. KU has been after Garcia, Brown-Ferguson, Kalkbrenner, etc...

muguru

Yes, MU is in his final 7...great, now land him, that's what matters. Anyway, no one here understands recruiting?? We just saw it with Hawkins...Now, I'd have rather had Osa then him, but kids don't like being "recruited over" like that. They want to be your priority. Multiple players at one position does scare off recruits. It happens all the time. And it's not because they don't think they can't beat that other player out, it's because they feel jilted.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

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I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

wadesworld

Those are some heavy hitters.  Would love to land him.

Pakuni

Quote from: muguru on September 17, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
Yes, MU is in his final 7...great, now land him, that's what matters. Anyway, no one here understands recruiting?? We just saw it with Hawkins...Now, I'd have rather had Osa then him, but kids don't like being "recruited over" like that. They want to be your priority. Multiple players at one position does scare off recruits. It happens all the time. And it's not because they don't think they can't beat that other player out, it's because they feel jilted.

As if on cue ...

wadesworld

#20389
Quote from: muguru on September 17, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
Yes, MU is in his final 7...great, now land him, that's what matters. Anyway, no one here understands recruiting?? We just saw it with Hawkins...Now, I'd have rather had Osa then him, but kids don't like being "recruited over" like that. They want to be your priority. Multiple players at one position does scare off recruits. It happens all the time. And it's not because they don't think they can't beat that other player out, it's because they feel jilted.

So what would you suggest Wojo do?  All indications are that Garcia has played everything close to the vest, nobody really knows what he's thinking, and most people think he holds out until the spring to commit somewhere.  Osa, a top 75 player in the country, wants to commit to Marquette.  So you tell him to wait because maybe Dawson might want to come over Arizona, Kansas, UNC, etc.?  That sounds like you really do have a great understanding of how recruiting works.

Why stop there?  Tell Dawson to hold off until Greg Brown commits somewhere.  As far as I know he's never said Marquette is out for him, so we're in until he commits elsewhere, right?

Hell I can't believe Wojo couldn't convince the Bucks brass to keep Thon around and couldn't get Budenholzer to prioritize Thon over Giannis in the offense in order to keep him happy and in Milwaukee so Wojo could get Makur to Marquette for a year before he goes pro.  What a wasted opportunity by Wojo.  The guy clearly doesn't have it.

Jockey

Quote from: muguru on September 17, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
Yes, MU is in his final 7...great, now land him, that's what matters. Anyway, no one here understands recruiting?? We just saw it with Hawkins...Now, I'd have rather had Osa then him, but kids don't like being "recruited over" like that. They want to be your priority. Multiple players at one position does scare off recruits. It happens all the time. And it's not because they don't think they can't beat that other player out, it's because they feel jilted.

That's why Kentucky and Duke struggle so much with recruiting.


Galway Eagle

Quote from: muguru on September 17, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
Yes, MU is in his final 7...great, now land him, that's what matters. Anyway, no one here understands recruiting?? We just saw it with Hawkins...Now, I'd have rather had Osa then him, but kids don't like being "recruited over" like that. They want to be your priority. Multiple players at one position does scare off recruits. It happens all the time. And it's not because they don't think they can't beat that other player out, it's because they feel jilted.

You're right if it comparable players or upper class men expecting to start that see a one and done coming but no chance a likely one and done is upset that a somewhat similar but not really likely four year player committed.
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Quote from: muguru on September 17, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
Yes, MU is in his final 7...great, now land him, that's what matters. Anyway, no one here understands recruiting?? We just saw it with Hawkins...Now, I'd have rather had Osa then him, but kids don't like being "recruited over" like that. They want to be your priority. Multiple players at one position does scare off recruits. It happens all the time. And it's not because they don't think they can't beat that other player out, it's because they feel jilted.
You're unhappy about...what exactly?  It is really unclear.  That MU "recruited over" Hawkins?  So you've managed to be unhappy about the player Marquette didn't get, the better player that MU did get, AND the effect on a still better player they might get.

I guess life isn't complete for you unless you are unhappy about something, or more accurately, everything.
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muguru

Quote from: MU82 on September 17, 2019, 12:25:32 PM
That's kinda silly, guru.

This.

And this.

And definitely this.

You don't put off a potentially outstanding recruit on the off chance that you might land somebody who might be better.

I mean, guru, what would you have said if Wojo told Osa to sit tight, Garcia didn't choose us 1 or 4 or 7 months from now, and Osa got tired of waiting and signed elsewhere?

"Wojo couldn't even get a guy in the second half of the top-100! Mediocre!"

And now, what would you be saying 2-3 years from now if Osa turned out to be a stud playing for somebody else?

"Fire Wojo! He had Osa but blew it!"

I love how you always pretend to know what I would think or say about it. That's hilarious.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Its DJOver

Quote from: wadesworld on September 17, 2019, 02:32:32 PM
Those are some heavy hitters.  Would love to land him.
Yep, can't be the best, unless you beat the best.  Anyone know if he's projected as a one-and-done, or how highly he regards the student aspect of college?  It's really tough to gauge where we stand in relationship to the other 6 when he plays it so close to the vest (not complaining, he can do what he wants, just an observation).  I trust the staff to continue to work hard, and do everything possible to land him.  Would have to think that there won't be a Garcia event that we're not at.
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Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

brewcity77

So can I go back to being happy about Osa, or are we still worried about unintended consequences?

The Sultan

Quote from: brewcity77 on September 17, 2019, 02:55:40 PM
So can I go back to being happy about Osa, or are we still worried about unintended consequences?


Dude, being happy about Osa was so last week.  Now we have to go back to being angst-ridden and angry at vague things we have no control over.
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Dawson Rental

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on September 16, 2019, 09:25:05 PM
Would be nice for the coaches to offer and lock this young man up now!  Early verbal would be awesome, bring him into the family now

Hardly advisable, unless you're hoping to see the visits from RJ Davis and AJ Hoggard in the near future get cancelled.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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