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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18550 on: June 27, 2019, 11:01:26 AM »
Quote from: Cheeks on June 26, 2019, 10:17:29 PM
Meaningless like most recruiting rankings and preseason team rankings.  Unless a kid is top 25ish and a “can’t” miss, mostly meaningless.

Meaningless. So a roster of guys who have an average RSCI of say 30 (all between 26-35) is essentially equal to a roster of guys with an average RSCI 0f 190 (all between 180-200).

LOL.

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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18551 on: June 27, 2019, 02:12:25 PM »
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18552 on: June 27, 2019, 02:56:50 PM »
An appropriately timed tweet from Goodman today.

Jeff Goodman @GoodmanHoops

Sure, let’s assess a team on “star ratings.” How many stars did Ja Morant get out of high school? How about Jaxson Hayes? How many schools offered Brandon Clarke out of high school? Go take your “star rankings” somewhere else.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18553 on: June 27, 2019, 03:09:17 PM »
Off topic but can anyone quote bo ellis’s comment after the 1974 loss to nc state about “not the right place ir time but we will be back...”
TIA
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18554 on: June 27, 2019, 03:30:04 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 27, 2019, 03:09:17 PM
Off topic but can anyone quote bo ellis’s comment after the 1974 loss to nc state about “not the right place ir time but we will be back...”
TIA

Lol that should be the new name of this thread
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18555 on: June 27, 2019, 03:43:37 PM »
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18556 on: June 27, 2019, 03:51:48 PM »
Hope so Stan hasnt done crap in a few years, meanwhile Duane has been killings it!
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18557 on: June 27, 2019, 03:53:06 PM »
Anyone on the bo ellis quote??
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18558 on: June 27, 2019, 03:53:16 PM »
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 27, 2019, 03:43:37 PM
Top 50 sophomore out of Arizona. Assume Stan is trying to work some magic.

Parents are graduates of Kansas.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18559 on: June 27, 2019, 03:56:28 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 27, 2019, 03:53:06 PM
Anyone on the bo ellis quote??

You could start a thread to specifically answer this question, rather than posting randomly on unrelated threads.

And no, I don't know the quote you're referring to.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18560 on: June 27, 2019, 04:03:14 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 27, 2019, 03:53:06 PM
Anyone on the bo ellis quote??

Hold the presses, I found it!!! Under the championship history of the 1974 runner-up team in the Marquette media guide (page 152):

"We'll be back. Not here, but somewhere else in a championship game. This was the wrong place and the wrong time, but we'll be back." Bo Ellis

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/marq/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/mbb_05_141-190.pdf
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18561 on: June 27, 2019, 04:05:00 PM »
Excellent thank you
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18562 on: June 27, 2019, 04:22:11 PM »
Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 27, 2019, 11:01:26 AM
Meaningless. So a roster of guys who have an average RSCI of say 30 (all between 26-35) is essentially equal to a roster of guys with an average RSCI 0f 190 (all between 180-200).

LOL.

What you posted was meaningless.  You gave a 247 ranking as a junior, once you get beyond a certain “sure fire” number it becomes meaningless.  How many guys in the 40 to 100 range end up pedestrian....way to many.  Plus there are more than a number of guys 101 to 200 that end up being very good players.  In my opinion.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18563 on: June 27, 2019, 04:30:56 PM »
Quote from: Cheeks on June 27, 2019, 04:22:11 PM
What you posted was meaningless.  You gave a 247 ranking as a junior, once you get beyond a certain “sure fire” number it becomes meaningless.  How many guys in the 40 to 100 range end up pedestrian....way to many.  Plus there are more than a number of guys 101 to 200 that end up being very good players.  In my opinion.

So no more postings of ranking or stars in the recruiting thread unless the guys are 5 star, top 25, "can't miss" guys because they're meaningless. And to think I was excited about Symir Torrence - thanks for setting me straight.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18564 on: June 27, 2019, 05:00:19 PM »
Quote from: Cheeks on June 27, 2019, 04:22:11 PM
What you posted was meaningless.  You gave a 247 ranking as a junior, once you get beyond a certain “sure fire” number it becomes meaningless.  How many guys in the 40 to 100 range end up pedestrian....way to many.  Plus there are more than a number of guys 101 to 200 that end up being very good players.  In my opinion.


Cheeks, everything you post is meaningless.   How?   How do you watch pac 12 games?   I don’t get it.  Please, tell me.  Cmon guy.  Let’s just be honest.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18565 on: June 27, 2019, 06:17:06 PM »
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18566 on: June 27, 2019, 06:20:13 PM »
Quote from: jonny09 on June 27, 2019, 05:00:19 PM

Cheeks, everything you post is meaningless.   How?   How do you watch pac 12 games?   I don’t get it.  Please, tell me.  Cmon guy.  Let’s just be honest.

I don’t watch PAC 12 games unless they are on ESPN or Fox, or if I go in person to UCLA or USC games...occasionally ASU or UA games live.

Now you have been told, as you asked and I provided. 
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18567 on: June 27, 2019, 06:34:13 PM »
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marquette, pitt, minnesota, virginia tech, ucla, miami and Arkansas have reached out on Delaware transfer Ithiel Horton

6'3" freshman SG will sit one, play 3. Averaged 13.2 ppg/3.1 rpg while shooting 41.1% from three.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18568 on: June 27, 2019, 08:33:10 PM »
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18569 on: June 27, 2019, 09:07:01 PM »
A few years back I ran the percentage of recruits (based on their final rscii rankings) that were drafted by the NBA.
Plus how many actually hung around the league for a few seasons

RSCII CLASSES 1999-2012
through NBA draft of 2016
rank    drafted   200+games
 1-10     87%        65%
11-20    61%        29%
21-30    40%        17%
31-40    24%        12%
41-50    19%        10%
51-60    18%        13%
61-70    14%         6%
71-80    13%         5%
81-90    10%         3%
91-100   15%         7%

summary
 1-10     87%        65%
11-40    42%        19%
41-100   15%         7%

as others have said, it really takes a dip once you get past top 30.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18570 on: June 27, 2019, 09:10:22 PM »
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on June 27, 2019, 09:07:01 PM
A few years back I ran the percentage of recruits (based on their final rscii rankings) that were drafted by the NBA.

RSCII CLASSES 1999-2012
through NBA draft of 2016
rank  %drafted
 1-10    87%
11-20    61%
21-30    40%
31-40    24%
41-50    19%
51-60    18%
61-70    14%
71-80    13%
81-90    10%
91-100   15%

summary
 1-10     87%
11-40    42%
41-100   15%

as others have said, it really takes a dip once you get past top 30.

45% > 27% one could argue the real dip is after top 10
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18571 on: June 27, 2019, 09:19:27 PM »
Quote from: Cheeks on June 27, 2019, 06:20:13 PM
I don’t watch PAC 12 games unless they are on ESPN or Fox, or if I go in person to UCLA or USC games...occasionally ASU or UA games live.

Now you have been told, as you asked and I provided.

You don't watch Pac 12 games ... except for the ones you watch?

Either you just punked jonny (if so, bravo) or your answer is just plain weird.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18572 on: June 27, 2019, 09:20:18 PM »
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on June 27, 2019, 09:07:01 PM
A few years back I ran the percentage of recruits (based on their final rscii rankings) that were drafted by the NBA.
Plus how many actually hung around the league for a few seasons

RSCII CLASSES 1999-2012
through NBA draft of 2016
rank    drafted   200+games
 1-10     87%        65%
11-20    61%        29%
21-30    40%        17%
31-40    24%        12%
41-50    19%        10%
51-60    18%        13%
61-70    14%         6%
71-80    13%         5%
81-90    10%         3%
91-100   15%         7%

summary
 1-10     87%        65%
11-40    42%        19%
41-100   15%         7%

as others have said, it really takes a dip once you get past top 30.
That is a tremendous analysis. It further supports the notion that for schools like MU , the need to identify diamonds in the rough and polish them is so critical .
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/19
« Reply #18573 on: June 27, 2019, 10:08:06 PM »
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« Reply #18574 on: June 27, 2019, 10:26:01 PM »
Deontay Long commits to the Grambling State Tigers , one of our non con foes .

Wishing  Deontay all the best in his second chance in life.

https://mobile.twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/1144383616522313729
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