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Jockey

Quote from: NCMUFan on December 18, 2023, 04:27:07 PM
We all have our share of bias.
The question before this nation is: If wrongdoing is suspected by the royal family of the USA, should it be investigated and reported to the citizens of the USA or just ignored?  So you can see how important it is for the news media to be objective.  Or is it just a propaganda tool for whatever side your bias happens to be?

There is no wrongdoing by Biden - just an attempt to get even over trump. Numerous Rs in both the House and Senate have said so. The R line is he did something wrong. We can't tell you what it is so you just have to trust us.

We KNOW Jared cashed in for $2 BILLION. That is fact and both you and the Rs are fine with it. And apparently you are fine with a coup attempt too.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Pakuni on December 18, 2023, 04:02:09 PM
The funny thing about these polls is that people generally think their preferred news sources are fair and objective, and it's the other media that is biased.

It's worse than that. Some people are so biased that they'll dismiss a legitimate poll from a legitimate pollster if it's published in a source not to their liking.

Pakuni

Quote from: NCMUFan on December 18, 2023, 04:27:07 PM
We all have our share of bias.
The question before this nation is: If wrongdoing is suspected by the royal family of the USA, should it be investigated and reported to the citizens of the USA or just ignored?  So you can see how important it is for the news media to be objective.  Or is it just a propaganda tool for whatever side your bias happens to be?

Agree. The $2 billion bribe to Jared Kushner should have been better reported.


Pakuni

I look forward to Bill Ackman (and by extension Heisey and 4ever) condemning Regent University, where Bachmann is dean of the school of government.

Former Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) said in no uncertain terms that the 2.3 million inhabitants of Gaza should be forced off the land so that it can "be turned into a national park."
Speaking at AmericaFest hosted by TurningPoint USA, Bachmann told Charlie Kirk that Gazans – roughly half of whom are children – should be uprooted from the region and deported to Iran.


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/michele-bachmann-calls-for-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza-they-need-to-be-removed-from-that-land/


tower912

I appreciate that media outlets are being held accountable for violating the commandment about bearing false witness to the tune of $2 billion combined.  It is a start.  St. Peter at the pearly gates awaits them, too, if you believe in that metaphor.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

NCMUFan

Quote from: Jockey on December 18, 2023, 04:39:05 PM
There is no wrongdoing by Biden - just an attempt to get even over trump. Numerous Rs in both the House and Senate have said so. The R line is he did something wrong. We can't tell you what it is so you just have to trust us.

We KNOW Jared cashed in for $2 BILLION. That is fact and both you and the Rs are fine with it. And apparently you are fine with a coup attempt too.
Sounds like your head is in the sand.  They have been telling you, but hard to hear with sand all around your ears.  Why isn't someone doing something about Jared you are so passionate about?  You make blank statements I am somehow supposed to make a defense about?  You are just showing your bias.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Jockey on December 18, 2023, 04:39:05 PM
There is no wrongdoing by Biden - just an attempt to get even over trump. Numerous Rs in both the House and Senate have said so. The R line is he did something wrong. We can't tell you what it is so you just have to trust us.

We KNOW Jared cashed in for $2 BILLION. That is fact and both you and the Rs are fine with it. And apparently you are fine with a coup attempt too.

The R leading the investigation (Comer) of the Biden family would agree with part of your opinion - he's on record as saying Kushner crossed an ethical line soliciting and accepting a 2 billion dollar investment in his hedge fund.

There are a few differences, though.
1. Trump was not in office at the time, so access to/influence of an official wasn't in play.
2. Kushner had an actual business for the Saudis to invest in, Hunter had only access/influence to sell.
3. Kushner acknowledged investors in his hedge fund and paid taxes on whatever income came to him because of those investments. Hunter, not so much.

Hunter acknowledges that he was a totally out of control drug addict when he was traveling the world on Air Force II with his Father. We've all seen the horrifyingly sad pictures of him in action. He claims he was so messed up he didn't remember to pay his taxes. What kind of expertise does a guy in that condition have to sell to foreign countries and businesses doing business there that's worth millions?

You want to believe Joe was totally in the dark about what his son was up to on those Air Force II junkets? That he wasn't the "big guy" referred to in the emails?

OK, but it was happening right under his nose. If he didn't know/couldn't guess what was going on that might be worse than being just another pol with his hand in the cookie jar.






Uncle Rico

Kam and the Warriors blowing it just like at Dayton. Bet your heads out of your asses.

The Sultan

Quote from: NCMUFan on December 18, 2023, 04:27:07 PM
We all have our share of bias.
The question before this nation is: If wrongdoing is suspected by the royal family of the USA, should it be investigated and reported to the citizens of the USA or just ignored?  So you can see how important it is for the news media to be objective.  Or is it just a propaganda tool for whatever side your bias happens to be?


What isn't being "investigated and reported?" I've seen plenty of reports about Hunter Biden from all types of media. There just isn't a lot there.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

jesmu84

We, as a society, have decided "soft" corruption is perfectly fine.

Nothing to really see here regarding the Bidens or the Trumps. Or 99% of federal elected/appointed officials

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: NCMUFan on December 18, 2023, 04:27:07 PM
We all have our share of bias.
The question before this nation is: If wrongdoing is suspected by the royal family of the USA, should it be investigated and reported to the citizens of the USA or just ignored?  So you can see how important it is for the news media to be objective.  Or is it just a propaganda tool for whatever side your bias happens to be?
Royal family of the USA? We have one?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Shaka Shart

" You seem to be arguing that 82's anus is still intact." - Not A Serious Person

Re: What's Wrong With Apple (stock)?

January 3, 2019, 05:33:00 PM

MU82

During the first round of congressional hearings, the R's put two star witnesses on the stand they were convinced would put Biden in hot water.]]

Both said there was no evidence of wrongdoing by Biden.

It was like when cultists from Wisconsin and Arizona pushed through "audits" of the 2020 election and, in the end, both found that Biden actually had won by even more votes than first recorded.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

forgetful

Not to detract from the which politician is worse discussion, but Netanyahu has come clean and admitted he was lying to the world, and was actively against a 2-state solution. He's proud that he blocked a 2-state solution for 16-years.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-778417


Jockey

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on December 18, 2023, 07:53:36 PM
The Clinton crime family

I thought it was the Biden crime family. Can't keep all these crooks straight.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on December 18, 2023, 07:53:36 PM
The Clinton crime family
Ahhhh...that explains how Hillary ascended to the throne, followed by Chelsea.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Shaka Shart

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on December 18, 2023, 08:57:28 PM
Ahhhh...that explains how Hillary ascended to the throne, followed by Chelsea.

Our national anthem was almost changed to "Fight Song" and you think this is a joke?!
" You seem to be arguing that 82's anus is still intact." - Not A Serious Person

Re: What's Wrong With Apple (stock)?

January 3, 2019, 05:33:00 PM

NCMUFan

Quote from: jesmu84 on December 18, 2023, 05:44:20 PM
We, as a society, have decided "soft" corruption is perfectly fine.

Nothing to really see here regarding the Bidens or the Trumps. Or 99% of federal elected/appointed officials
Define soft corruption?  When did society decide it was fine?
So, in the future "hard" corruption may be perfectly acceptable?
Yipes!

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: NCMUFan on December 18, 2023, 09:57:03 PM
Define soft corruption?  When did society decide it was fine?
So, in the future "hard" corruption may be perfectly acceptable?
Yipes!
I'm seriously curious...who is the Royal Family of the USA?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Not A Serious Person

Quote from: forgetful on December 18, 2023, 08:44:50 PM
Not to detract from the which politician is worse discussion, but Netanyahu has come clean and admitted he was lying to the world, and was actively against a 2-state solution. He's proud that he blocked a 2-state solution for 16-years.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-778417

No, Martin Indyk, the former US Ambassador to Israel under Bill Clinton, made this charge on X on Sunday.

https://x.com/Martin_Indyk/status/1736354448442581286?s=20



Western Progressives have one worldview, the correct one.

Shaka Shart

" You seem to be arguing that 82's anus is still intact." - Not A Serious Person

Re: What's Wrong With Apple (stock)?

January 3, 2019, 05:33:00 PM

Pakuni

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on December 18, 2023, 11:14:52 PM
No, Martin Indyk, the former US Ambassador to Israel under Bill Clinton, made this charge on X on Sunday.

https://x.com/Martin_Indyk/status/1736354448442581286?s=20

No, Benjamin Netanyahu, the current prime minister of Israel, said it at a press conference over the weekend.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Saturday night that he was "proud" he prevented the establishment of a Palestinian state and took credit for "putting the brakes" on the Oslo peace process, during a press conference at the Defense Ministry headquarters in Tel Aviv.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pointing-to-hamass-little-state-netanyahu-touts-role-blocking-2-state-solution/

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on December 18, 2023, 11:14:52 PM
No, Martin Indyk, the former US Ambassador to Israel under Bill Clinton, made this charge on X on Sunday.

https://x.com/Martin_Indyk/status/1736354448442581286?s=20

Indyk means turkey (the bird) in Polish.

4everwarriors

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on December 19, 2023, 08:37:24 AM
https://x.com/dcipalestine/status/1736764560776867896?s=46&t=G2FhP_F2kWewaBOpvRv5lg

Awful way for a young life to end


Sure is and how many Israelis died on Oct. 7 as a result of Hamas' attack? Keep your hand raised, hey?


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