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Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 19, 2023, 11:20:55 AM

Sure is and how many Israelis died on Oct. 7 as a result of Hamas' attack? Keep your hand raised, hey?


#fromtherivertothesea

#neveragain

Whatabouting to something we've discussed at length and condemned hundreds of times when the mention of death of young girl who had already lost everything is about as pathetic as it gets. Again, just say you don't like Muslims and be done with it.
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

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Skatastrophy

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on December 19, 2023, 11:50:54 AM
Whatabouting to something we've discussed at length and condemned hundreds of times when the mention of death of young girl who had already lost everything is about as pathetic as it gets. Again, just say you don't like Muslims and be done with it.

If Hamas didn't want innocents to die then they shouldn't have started a war. Will we be sad over innocent Russian civilian deaths like we are over the Palestinian deaths? Yes of course cause we're not heartless. But also, crap happens it's a war and Israel didn't start it.

reinko

Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 19, 2023, 12:42:13 PM
If Hamas didn't want innocents to die then they shouldn't have started a war. Will we be sad over innocent Russian civilian deaths like we are over the Palestinian deaths? Yes of course cause we're not heartless. But also, crap happens it's a war and Israel didn't start it.

Not to get all geopolitical, but are Russian civilians actually in any danger?  Haven't read much about that.  But your overall point is well taken.


Skatastrophy

Quote from: reinko on December 19, 2023, 12:49:33 PM
Not to get all geopolitical, but are Russian civilians actually in any danger?  Haven't read much about that.  But your overall point is well taken.

Not at all but hopefully they will be? lol

jesmu84

IDF killed 3 Israeli hostages?

Unarmed, shirtless men waving a white flag.

forgetful

Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 19, 2023, 12:42:13 PM
If Hamas didn't want innocents to die then they shouldn't have started a war. Will we be sad over innocent Russian civilian deaths like we are over the Palestinian deaths? Yes of course cause we're not heartless. But also, crap happens it's a war and Israel didn't start it.

Everyone agrees that Hamas committed a horrific terrorist attack, and it is largely semantics, but how do you exactly define "starting a war" over there.

In numerous military excursions, and bombing campaigns in the West Bank, 234 Palestinians were killed by the IDF prior to October 7th. Nine additional civilians were murdered by Settlers. Do those count as part of a "war."

I think it is more accurate to say that the war started in ~1947 and is still ongoing.

But, the bottom line is Hamas is terrible, and committed a horrible terrorist attack.

It is also true that Israel's response is increasingly becoming more ugly as more information comes out, and in my opinion, no circumstances can justify the numbers of women and children that have died, especially those dying unnecessarily in hospitals.

Babies were left to die and rot in one of the hospitals attacked by the IDF, and that doesn't include the neonatal babies that died at Al Shifa. The entire US was up in arms and supported an invasion of Iraq, because of similar manufactured claims...but so many people look the other way when it is actually occurring to Palestinians.

The war is war excuse, is simply a way for people to justify horrific actions by people they support.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 19, 2023, 12:42:13 PM
If Hamas didn't want innocents to die then they shouldn't have started a war. Will we be sad over innocent Russian civilian deaths like we are over the Palestinian deaths? Yes of course cause we're not heartless. But also, crap happens it's a war and Israel didn't start it.

Saying crap happens over and over doesn't make it acceptable. Sniping healthcare workers and civilians because you're scared of anything that moves isn't ok. Attacking civilians whether in a Catholic Church, a mosque, a hospital, or a music festival isn't ok.

Saying "crap happens" is a nice way to dehumanize collateral damage though
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: forgetful on December 19, 2023, 01:59:23 PM
Everyone agrees that Hamas committed a horrific terrorist attack, and it is largely semantics, but how do you exactly define "starting a war" over there.

In numerous military excursions, and bombing campaigns in the West Bank, 234 Palestinians were killed by the IDF prior to October 7th. Nine additional civilians were murdered by Settlers. Do those count as part of a "war."

I think it is more accurate to say that the war started in ~1947 and is still ongoing.

But, the bottom line is Hamas is terrible, and committed a horrible terrorist attack.

It is also true that Israel's response is increasingly becoming more ugly as more information comes out, and in my opinion, no circumstances can justify the numbers of women and children that have died, especially those dying unnecessarily in hospitals.

Babies were left to die and rot in one of the hospitals attacked by the IDF, and that doesn't include the neonatal babies that died at Al Shifa. The entire US was up in arms and supported an invasion of Iraq, because of similar manufactured claims...but so many people look the other way when it is actually occurring to Palestinians.

The war is war excuse, is simply a way for people to justify horrific actions by people they support.

X 100000000000. Have some fucking empathy people, you went to a Jesuit school
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Pakuni

Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 19, 2023, 12:42:13 PM
If Hamas didn't want innocents to die then they shouldn't have started a war. Will we be sad over innocent Russian civilian deaths like we are over the Palestinian deaths? Yes of course cause we're not heartless. But also, crap happens it's a war and Israel didn't start it.

"We're not heartless" and "crap happens" are statements that seem at odds.

4everwarriors

Empathy, when the goal is to complete what Hitler started? This is where your Jesuit education led you? C'mon man, if you understood what's at stake here, and were a student of 20th Century history, I would hope your moral compass would steer you in the right direction, hey?

#fromtherivertothesea

#neveragain
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Jockey

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 19, 2023, 02:24:59 PM
Empathy, when the goal is to complete what Hitler started? This is where your Jesuit education led you? C'mon man, if you understood what's at stake here, and were a student of 20th Century history, I would hope your moral compass would steer you in the right direction, hey?

#fromtherivertothesea

#neveragain


Does yours steer you to the anti-semites that you fully and gleefully support?

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 19, 2023, 02:24:59 PM
Empathy, when the goal is to complete what Hitler started? This is where your Jesuit education led you? C'mon man, if you understood what's at stake here, and were a student of 20th Century history, I would hope your moral compass would steer you in the right direction, hey?

#fromtherivertothesea

#neveragain

Yep. Those dead babies definitely were plotting to finish what Hitler started.
Maroon.

Speaking of Hitler, blood poisoning got you anxious these days?

forgetful

Quote from: Jockey on December 19, 2023, 02:31:50 PM

Does yours steer you to the anti-semites that you fully and gleefully support?

Including one, that apparently kept a book of Hitler speeches on his nightstand next to him while he slept.

4everwarriors

Quote from: Pakuni on December 19, 2023, 02:33:28 PM
Yep. Those dead babies definitely were plotting to finish what Hitler started.
Maroon.

Speaking of Hitler, blood poisoning got you anxious these days?




Don't try to twit me, cretin, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

NCMUFan

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on December 19, 2023, 02:04:37 PM
X 100000000000. Have some unnatural carnal knowledgeing empathy people, you went to a Jesuit school
Is this supposed to get a chuckle?
Pay the tuition and you are there.
Garbage in, garbage out.

jesmu84

Y'all believe that non-hamas Palestinians are getting what they deserve, eh?

Jockey

Quote from: jesmu84 on December 19, 2023, 03:37:18 PM
Y'all believe that non-hamas Palestinians are getting what they deserve, eh?

Y'all?

No, there were only a couple heartless souls who seem to believe that.

4everwarriors

Quote from: jesmu84 on December 19, 2023, 03:37:18 PM
Y'all believe that non-hamas Palestinians are getting what they deserve, eh?



Pretty sure Palestinians voted Hamas to govern Gaza. Ya get what ya vote for. Kinda like how it works here, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

NCMUFan

For the theological majors.
Could some of the Palestinians be decedents of Israel, i.e., one of the lost tribes of the Northern Kingdom of Israel?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 19, 2023, 04:08:34 PM


Pretty sure Palestinians voted Hamas to govern Gaza. Ya get what ya vote for. Kinda like how it works here, hey?

Yeah, look at Mississippi.
Guster is for Lovers

Skatastrophy

Quote from: Pakuni on December 19, 2023, 02:24:00 PM
"We're not heartless" and "crap happens" are statements that seem at odds.

Maybe

"We're not heartless" On one hand it's admirable to bang together pots and pans when civilians get killed.

"crap happens" On the other hand it's not like any military is composed of the best and the brightest of the given country. It's a bunch of overtired, overcaffinated (or worse) teenagers armed to the tits. If we don't want regular people to get killed then we should avoid war because there is absolutely no way to keep armed teenagers from shooting people.

jesmu84

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 19, 2023, 04:08:34 PM


Pretty sure Palestinians voted Hamas to govern Gaza. Ya get what ya vote for. Kinda like how it works here, hey?

On one hand, I commend you for making your viewpoint crystal clear for all to see

On the other, I personally find it strange to abide by the same philosophy as Osama Bin Laden

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: NCMUFan on December 19, 2023, 03:23:52 PM
Is this supposed to get a chuckle?
Pay the tuition and you are there.
Garbage in, garbage out.

Is this? Perhaps attending higher education should involve retaining some of the content and values. I suppose no one forces you to do that though, as you seem to demonstrate. But it is your right to insult the institution this board is built around. Garbage in garbage out as you say.
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 19, 2023, 04:08:34 PM


Pretty sure Palestinians voted Hamas to govern Gaza. Ya get what ya vote for. Kinda like how it works here, hey?

"I hate Muslims"
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

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