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MuggsyB

Expect a massive response. 

rocket surgeon

no excuse!  unprovoked!  disgusting! 

i just hope we have something left to help out israel with.  between Ukraine and the illegal invasions, terrorists and the cartels here, the admin is very poorly prepared for anymore conflict. 


felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 07, 2023, 09:13:56 AM
no excuse!  unprovoked!  disgusting! 

i just hope we have something left to help out israel with.  between Ukraine and the illegal invasions, terrorists and the cartels here, the admin is very poorly prepared for anymore conflict.
America is truly a terrifying place.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 07, 2023, 08:44:38 AM
Expect a massive response.

I think so too and good. And US and all our allies should stand solidly behind Israel on that response.  This was a brazen attack by Hamas where civilians were targeted. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 07, 2023, 09:13:56 AM
no excuse!  unprovoked!  disgusting! 

i just hope we have something left to help out israel with.  between Ukraine and the illegal invasions, terrorists and the cartels here, the admin is very poorly prepared for anymore conflict.

1 out of 10
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on October 07, 2023, 09:17:23 AM
America is truly a terrifying place.

And broke.  We gave all our money to Ukraine.  People forget Russia was our ally in WWII. 
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

jesmu84

This was gonna happen eventually.

Israel's actions have clearly pushed Palestinians to the brink.

Very sad.

The US needs to walk away, at least militarily/financial backing, from the entire Middle East

Uncle Rico

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 07, 2023, 09:40:35 AM
This was gonna happen eventually.

Israel's actions have clearly pushed Palestinians to the brink.

Very sad.

Colossal failure by Netanyahu. 
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

MuggsyB

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on October 07, 2023, 09:18:04 AM
I think so too and good. And US and all our allies should stand solidly behind Israel on that response.  This was a brazen attack by Hamas where civilians were targeted.

Hutch,

Do not be surprised if Israel is also attacked by Hezbollah to the North.  The Western and World response to this will be really interesting because I could see Israel completely taking over Gaza and then obliterating Iranian nuclear sites.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MuggsyB

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 07, 2023, 09:40:35 AM
This was gonna happen eventually.

Israel's actions have clearly pushed Palestinians to the brink.

Very sad.

The US needs to walk away, at least militarily/financial backing, from the entire Middle East

Uh......wrong.  Unless you're content with Iran getting a nuclear weapon and wiping Israel off the map. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 07, 2023, 09:47:15 AM
Uh......wrong.  Unless you're content with Iran getting a nuclear weapon and wiping Israel off the map.

America's diplomatic history in the Middle East has been one failure after another through all administrations. 

Abandoning the Middle East is impossible but the idea America can solve the issues in the Middle East is folly.  Religion is an unbeatable force when it comes to human suffering
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

jesmu84

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 07, 2023, 09:47:15 AM
Uh......wrong.  Unless you're content with Iran getting a nuclear weapon and wiping Israel off the map.

Well, time to dust off that Iran nuclear agreement then eh?

Do you expect the US to be the world's police forever?

Pakuni

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Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 07, 2023, 09:13:56 AM
no excuse!  unprovoked!  disgusting! 

i just hope we have something left to help out israel with.  between Ukraine and the illegal invasions, terrorists and the cartels here, the admin is very poorly prepared for anymore conflict.

We've given Israel only about $20 billion the past 5 years.
Hopefully they can squeak by.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 07, 2023, 09:55:18 AM
America's diplomatic history in the Middle East has been one failure after another through all administrations. 

Abandoning the Middle East is impossible but the idea America can solve the issues in the Middle East is folly.  Religion is an unbeatable force when it comes to human suffering

The was a coordinated attack essentially from Iran designed to bring the Middle East into total chaos, and it was absolutely gruesome in nature.  Iran 2nd biggest enemy is the United States.  If you think this has no impact on us you're sorely mistaken nor is it really a "religious war". 

MuggsyB

Quote from: Pakuni on October 07, 2023, 10:01:25 AM
We've given Israel only about $20 billion thr past 5 years.
Hopefully they can squeak by.

And we gave Iran 6B a few weeks ago. 

rocky_warrior

This will be over quickly.  But it did disturb Muggsy's morning coffee.

Pakuni

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 07, 2023, 10:02:52 AM
And we gave Iran 6B a few weeks ago.


No, we didn't.
#lies #fakenews

MuggsyB

Quote from: rocky_warrior on October 07, 2023, 10:04:21 AM
This will be over quickly.  But it did disturb Muggsy's morning coffee.

What will be over quickly?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 07, 2023, 10:02:14 AM
The was a coordinated attack essentially from Iran designed to bring the Middle East into total chaos, and it was absolutely gruesome in nature.  Iran 2nd biggest enemy is the United States.  If you think this has no impact on us you're sorely mistaken nor is it really a "religious war".

Where did I say it didn't have an impact on us?  I said our diplomatic activities have been mostly wrong through all administrations.

And again, it's all based in religion, the world's greatest killer.  Fighting over holy sites and land.  For centuries. 
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 07, 2023, 10:05:58 AM
What will be over quickly?

There's never "peace" in the middle east.  Only different levels of tension.  Israel will squash this quickly, back to the normal levels of tension.  Gaza will always be in dispute.  The fact that many there have bomb shelters is really all you need to know.

Jockey

Should we cut off aid to Israel? Democracy-even Israeli democracy - is so passé.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jockey on October 07, 2023, 10:11:26 AM
Should we cut off aid to Israel? Democracy-even Israeli democracy - is so passé.

Nah.  Each political party needs to appeal to that voting bloc. 
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

MuggsyB

Quote from: rocky_warrior on October 07, 2023, 10:10:30 AM
There's never "peace" in the middle east.  Only different levels of tension.  Israel will squash this quickly, back to the normal levels of tension.  Gaza will always be in dispute.  The fact that many there have bomb shelters is really all you need to know.

Rocky,

I think this could take some time and that this is a much different military operation than we've seen from Israel in the past.  Unless they use hard power but since the world is vehemently antisemitic the optics would be really bad.  All you need to know is Qatar condemned Israel.  This is a s-show.  And if we think losing Israel as our only democratic partner in the region is a prudent decision we better think again. 

rocky_warrior

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 07, 2023, 10:18:59 AM
I think this could take some time and that this is a much different military operation than we've seen from Israel in the past.  Unless they use hard power but since the world is vehemently antisemitic the optics would be really bad.  All you need to know is Qatar condemned Israel.  This is a s-show.  And if we think losing Israel as our only democratic partner in the region is a prudent decision we better think again.

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