Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[Heisenberg]

Could you link some of your posts on these events?
And yeah, no one has talked about Ukraine at all. No one cares.

No, we seem to be pro 500k deaths as we are all for the continuation of the Russia/Ukrainian war.

https://www.usip.org/publications/2020/08/current-situation-syria
Now in its 10th year, the Syrian conflict has led to more than 500,000 deaths and displaced an estimated 13 million—over half of Syria's pre-war population. Over 6.2 million Syrians are internally displaced, and 5.6 million are refugees, predominantly in Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey.


Yemen war will have killed over three hundred thousand by year's end, UN says
https://www.newarab.com/news/yemen-war-will-have-killed-over-300000-years-end-un

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Again, as long as Jews don't kill them ...butcher them away, and no one cares.

But when the Jews want to go into the basement of a hospital after they spent a week clearing off civilians and patients (which no one else does), worldwide protests demanding a ceasefire and accusations of war crimes.

Again, why are the Jews held to a different standard, a standard that the US military is not held to? Is it because they are Jewish?

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If these questions make you uncomfortable, you can go back to randomly typing the words "Jewish Space Lasers," "Musk" and "Tucker" to virtue signal your moral superiority.

[MUBurrow]

If these questions make you uncomfortable, you can go back to randomly typing the words "Jewish Space Lasers," "Musk" and "Tucker" to virtue signal your moral superiority.

Heisey, since you posted the previous Sam Harris episode, I wanted to see if you've had a chance to listen to the Harari interview and what your thoughts were on that? 

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Trying to say "oh if you care about this cause, why haven't you said anything about all these causes too" is disingenuous at best.

Those who say that don't care about those additional causes either. Otherwise they'd have easily findable receipts of their advocacy.

Recency bias, our relationship with our close ally Israel, and our country directly funneling more and more money into this conflict makes this a lot more relevant for a lot of people.

[Heisenberg]

Heisey, since you posted the previous Sam Harris episode, I wanted to see if you've had a chance to listen to the Harari interview and what your thoughts were on that?

Yes, it was very good.

Not a subscriber so I did not get the second half.  Did you?

[Uncle Rico]

I'm confident in my moral superiority

[SoCalEagle]

Powerful message.

Powerful message, indeed.  Now we should all act on it, right? Where do you stand?

[MU82]

New York Times columnist David French, an evangelical Christian, former National Review Institute fellow and a Republican until Trumpism led him to quit the party, had this take on growing antisemitism on the "New Right."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/19/opinion/right-wing-antisemitism-populism.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20231120&instance_id=108181&nl=the-morning&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=150529&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

A dam burst last week on the right, and a wave of grotesque antisemitism poured out all over the internet.

In August, I wrote about the "lost boys" of the American right, many of them young and relatively unknown, who were outed for having secret or anonymous online profiles and using those profiles to spread raw bigotry, including antisemitism. Some of these people worked for the right wing's biggest names, including Tucker Carlson, Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump.

What started in the shadows is now right in the open. It's being advanced by some of the most powerful and influential people in America, and there is nothing subtle about it. The latest eruption started with a fight between the Daily Wire co-founder Ben Shapiro and his Daily Wire colleague Candace Owens. ...

Then Owens went on Carlson's show on X, where he ranted against the "biggest donors at, say, Harvard," asking where they were when members of the Harvard community "were calling for white genocide."

"White genocide" is a term of art on the racist right and is linked to the so-called great replacement theory, the notion that leftists (including Jewish progressives) are trying to import people of color to replace America's white majority. This is the theory that motivated the shooter in the Tree of Life synagogue massacre in Pittsburgh. It is false, evil and very dangerous.

The same day, an obscure far-right personality posted the same conspiracy theory on X: "Jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them." ...

The post wouldn't be notable, except as yet another example of the bigoted filth that dominates discourse on X, but Elon Musk — the world's richest man and the owner of X — responded with an endorsement. "You have said the actual truth," he replied.

[Heisenberg]

I'm confident in my moral superiority

9.5/10

[Pakuni]

No, we seem to be pro 500k deaths as we are all for the continuation of the Russia/Ukrainian war.

Or maybe, and hear me out, some of us believe Ukraine has the right to defend itself against an unprovoked invasion; that Russia should not be rewarded for its aggression; and that preventing Russian expansion and the realization of Putin's dream of a new USSR is a good thing, not only for the interests of the U.S. and its allies, but the world.


Also, the death toll from the Russian/Ukrainian War isn't even half what you claim it is. Once again, you prove yourself utterly incapable of getting even the most basic of facts correct.


And yet still I await your history of posts expressing outrage over the deaths in Yemen, Syria, Darfur, etc. Until then, we can only assume you're a morally inferior hypocrite who's using those tragedies as talking points, and really couldn't care less.

[lawdog77]

Or maybe, and hear me out, some of us believe Ukraine has the right to defend itself against an unprovoked invasion; that Russia should not be rewarded for its aggression; and that preventing Russian expansion and the realization of Putin's dream of a new USSR is a good thing, not only for the interests of the U.S. and its allies, but the world.


Also, the death toll from the Russian/Ukrainian War isn't even half what you claim it is. Once again, you prove yourself utterly incapable of getting even the most basic of facts correct.


And yet still I await your history of posts expressing outrage over the deaths in Yemen, Syria, Darfur, etc. Until then, we can only assume you're a morally inferior hypocrite who's using those tragedies as talking points, and really couldn't care less.

NY Times reporting it is
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/18/us/politics/ukraine-russia-war-casualties.html

Granted Russia is reporting less, based on their death benefits report. But that is Russia. So Douchey isn't making numbers up.

[MUBurrow]

Yes, it was very good.

Not a subscriber so I did not get the second half.  Did you?

I did - I'll try to figure out if I can post the full episode link without doxxing myself. 

[lawdog77]

I did - I'll try to figure out if I can post the full episode link without doxxing myself.

We already know who you are.Joe Burrow, injured QB.

[MUBurrow]

We already know who you are.Joe Burrow, injured QB.

MUBrowning's posts are about to SKYROCKET.

[Pakuni]

NY Times reporting it is
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/18/us/politics/ukraine-russia-war-casualties.html

Granted Russia is reporting less, based on their death benefits report. But that is Russia. So Douchey isn't making numbers up.

The headline reads "Troop Death and Injuries in Ukraine War Near 500,000 ..."

Per this Guardian story based on the same report, the death toll at the time was about 190,000.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/18/ukraine-russia-war-battlefield-deaths-rise

[lawdog77]

The headline reads "Troop Death and Injuries in Ukraine War Near 500,000 ..."

Per this Guardian story based on the same report, the death toll at the time was about 190,000.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/18/ukraine-russia-war-battlefield-deaths-rise

mea culpa. I always thought casualties meant deaths.

[Skatastrophy]

mea culpa. I always thought casualties meant deaths.

Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.

[Heisenberg]

Or maybe, and hear me out, some of us believe Ukraine has the right to defend itself against an unprovoked invasion; that Russia should not be rewarded for its aggression; and that preventing Russian expansion and the realization of Putin's dream of a new USSR is a good thing, not only for the interests of the U.S. and its allies, but the world.


Also, the death toll from the Russian/Ukrainian War isn't even half what you claim it is. Once again, you prove yourself utterly incapable of getting even the most basic of facts correct.


And yet still I await your history of posts expressing outrage over the deaths in Yemen, Syria, Darfur, etc. Until then, we can only assume you're a morally inferior hypocrite who's using those tragedies as talking points, and really couldn't care less.

FIFY

Or maybe, and hear me out, some of us believe Israel has the right to defend itself against an unprovoked invasion; that Hamas should not be rewarded for its aggression; and that preventing Hamas expansion and the realization of one-state and the destruction of Isreal is a good thing, not only for the interests of the U.S. and its allies, but the world.

Same thing ... but you will not admit it.

[Heisenberg]

Former Chicago mayor's home vandalized with 'Nazi' graffiti
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-774282

The Michigan home of Rahm Emanuel, former Chicago Mayor and current US ambassador to Japan, was defaced with the word "Nazis" spray-painted on its fence. The Chicago Sun Times reported that Emanuel, a prominent Jewish political figure in the United States, was not present at his Gordon Beach cottage during the incident.

Expressing his gratitude towards the community's support, Emanuel told the Sun Times, "Our family is very proud of how our friends, neighbors and the community have rallied to our support and in a singular voice in condemning hatred and bigotry."

Emanuel also commended the local law enforcement for their prompt response to the hate crime.

[Pakuni]

FIFY

Or maybe, and hear me out, some of us believe Israel has the right to defend itself against an unprovoked invasion; that Hamas should not be rewarded for its aggression; and that preventing Hamas expansion and the realization of one-state and the destruction of Isreal is a good thing, not only for the interests of the U.S. and its allies, but the world.

Same thing ... but you will not admit it.

Please point out where I've ever said anything different.
And if not, please come back and admit I've never said anything different.

[jesmu84]

https://youtu.be/pJ9PKQbkJv8?si=l_av7Y5FSwUcBCdk

Finally got around to watching Jon Oliver's segment on the Israel Hamas conflict

[Heisenberg]

Please point out where I've ever said anything different.
And if not, please come back and admit I've never said anything different.

I asked why the world, not anyone personally, does not get worked up about the deaths and genocides happening all over the world. But when Israel moves to defend itself after a terrible attack, the world goes nuts protesting, demanding ceasefires, chanting "from the river ..." and accusing Israel of war crimes.

You took it upon yourself to single out Ukraine, even starting with "or maybe, and hear me out," implying that Ukraine is different and justifiable, whereas Israel is wrong. Go ahead and say you did not say that. It is what you suggested with your tone and wording.

This is your problem; I live rent-free in your head because you cannot stand me. So you see my name attack and scream everything is wrong to the point you argue in circles, like here, to disagree with me.

Go re-read all your posts here. Have you been able to add anything to this conversation? All you do is condescend, ridicule, scream wrong, and occasionally win minor points.

So, you're correct; Ukraine had 500,000 casualties, not 500,00 deaths. You attacked me with pretty harsh language over this difference. What did you win by getting me to concede the difference between casualties and deaths? Are you suggesting 190,000 deaths is acceptable, but 500,000 is not? 

Seriously, why don't you mute me and this thread and move on with your life?

[Pakuni]

I asked why the world, not anyone personally, does not get worked up about the deaths and genocides happening all over the world. But when Israel moves to defend itself after a terrible attack, the world goes nuts protesting, demanding ceasefires, chanting "from the river ..." and accusing Israel of war crimes.

You took it upon yourself to single out Ukraine, even starting with "or maybe, and hear me out," implying that Ukraine is different and justifiable, whereas Israel is wrong. Go ahead and say you did not say that. It is what you suggested with your tone and wording.

So typical. You can't muster a credible argument against what is actually said, so you need to make sh*t up. And when called on it, you double down instead of admitting your mistake.
It's your M.O. and I'm obviously an idiot for engaging with you.
But no, I won't mute you. It's too much fun pointing out your false statements, intellectual dishonesty and bad faith arguments.
Hate you? My dude, you don't even rate.

[MU82]

Why does it have to be Ukraine OR Israel? The United States should be fully supporting both nations. They are allies that got invaded by terrorists.

Funding bills being proposed by Congress that are willing to assist Israel but not Ukraine - or vice versa - are garbage. I will not vote for any politician for any office, whether Democrat or Republican, who portrays it as an either/or proposition.

[Skatastrophy]

Why does it have to be Ukraine OR Israel? The United States should be fully supporting both nations. They are allies that got invaded by terrorists.

Funding bills being proposed by Congress that are willing to assist Israel but not Ukraine - or vice versa - are garbage. I will not vote for any politician for any office, whether Democrat or Republican, who portrays it as an either/or proposition.

Yeah, the trouble in Israel is Iran trying to help out Russia. It's like they drank a little too much of their own kool-aid and believe that two proxy wars will stretch the USA too thin.

The far right eats up that propaganda as you see in some other posters, talking about america being perceived as weak. Pretty funny, imo.

[4everwarriors]

Why does it have to be Ukraine OR Israel? The United States should be fully supporting both nations. They are allies that got invaded by terrorists.

Funding bills being proposed by Congress that are willing to assist Israel but not Ukraine - or vice versa - are garbage. I will not vote for any politician for any office, whether Democrat or Republican, who portrays it as an either/or proposition.

How 'bout a lifelong politician who claims to be an ally of Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East, but openly supports the Palestinians and decries they should govern Gaza and essentially funds terrorism with $16 bbbbillion and countin'. All the while refusin' to choke off Iranian oil exports, hey?

#fromtherivertothesea

#neveragain