Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[Skatastrophy]

President addressing the nation about the US being involved in 2 wars.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/19/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news

[MuggsyB]

That's the cost at a minimum getting involved militarily in the Middle East

We may have no choice Reeko.  But shouldn't need ground troops.   i think appeasement has jumped the shark and is dangerous from a long-term perspective. 

[Uncle Rico]

We may have no choice Reeko.  But shouldn't need ground troops.   i think appeasement has jumped the shark and is dangerous from a long-term perspective.

That's right, I forgot your 5-point plan.  Should I watch Delta Force or Syriana?

[MuggsyB]

That's right, I forgot your 5-point plan.  Should I watch Delta Force or Syriana?

I don't care t to upset some here, ergo I will keep my 5-Point plan to myself. 

[Uncle Rico]

I don't care t to upset some here, ergo I will keep my 5-Point plan to myself.

That's fine.  Just let me know what movie I should watch to at least have an idea how you plan on eliminating the mullahs, taking over the oil fields and peacefully create a new Iranian state and not suffer any consequences from the world at large

[MuggsyB]

That's fine.  Just let me know what movie I should watch to at least have an idea how you plan on eliminating the mullahs, taking over the oil fields and peacefully create a new Iranian state and not suffer any consequences from the world at large

Let me think about that....I'm not sure it's been depicted on the big screen.  I never suggested the creation of a peaceful Iranian state. 

[Uncle Rico]

Let me think about that....I'm not sure it's been depicted on the big screen.  I never suggested the creation of a peaceful Iranian state.

Oh, so we'd be occupiers

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

We may have no choice Reeko.  But shouldn't need ground troops.   i think appeasement has jumped the shark and is dangerous from a long-term perspective.

Do you honestly believe that no boots on the ground would do what it is your suggest is needed to be done there? And you say I am in "La-La Land"?

When you say "deal with reality" you mean what you would prefer to be reality and let's not pretend it is anything otherwise.

Sometime you should take a step back, sip a tall glass of nuance and think "Have we always been/Are we the good guys?". Because the historical answer might really surprise you when you stop clamoring for shock and awe for a hot second.

I myself  am thoroughly on team "no boots on the ground playing defense" like Lawdog77 said. But we are also sending tens of thousands of shells meant for Ukraine (Produced by Pakistan, that'll be an awkward phone call!) with a 50m kill radius. For urban warfare that is absolutely psychopath s***. It is hard for me to grasp endorsing this behavior in such a small dense area unless you believe internally that these people are less than human and the ends justify the means no matter what.

Link here: https://www.axios.com/2023/10/19/us-israel-artillery-shells-ukraine-weapons-gaza

[MuggsyB]

Oh, so we'd be occupiers

Not exactly.  I will keep the details to myself . 

[tower912]

Share them with a decision maker.   

[Uncle Rico]

Not exactly.  I will keep the details to myself .

I hope colonizing and converting them religiously is part of the plan

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Let me tell you something TSmith,

There are times you simply have to use hard power.  I will admit I'm a bit more vengeful than some, but I'm looking at this with eagle vision and Blue Whale vs Krill dominance.  If we do not wake up the result will be an irrevocable s-show.

You're "exhilarated" over a childishly naive fantasy where the U.S. unilaterally invades the Middle East, not to mention Russia, and seizes all their land and resources, in the course of three weeks, killing millions of people in the process. This from the same guy that moments ago said, "I'm obsessed with innocent civilians being slaughtered because of a whacko ideology."

That doesn't make you the good guy, it makes you the purveyor of atrocities.

[tower912]

It worked for Putin.

[Uncle Rico]

You're "exhilarated" over a childishly naive fantasy where the U.S. unilaterally invades the Middle East, not to mention Russia, and seizes all their land and resources, in the course of three weeks, killing millions of people in the process.

That doesn't make you the good guy, it makes you the purveyor of atrocities.

No, his plan only includes killing the bad guys.  It's fool-proof

[lawdog77]

Share them with a decision maker.

muhilltopper?

[tower912]

House of representatives leadership.

[ATL MU Warrior]

I'm just wondering why Muggsy is still living his lavish lifestyle with his expensive coffee and saffron instead of hightailing it over to Israel to help out.

[MuggsyB]

I'm just wondering why Muggsy is still living his lavish lifestyle with his expensive coffee and saffron instead of hightailing it over to Israel to help out.

I don't live lavishly. 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

House of representatives leadership.

Topper would get a lot more done

[tower912]

Agreed.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Scoop Beersheba summit

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Not exactly.  I will keep the details to myself .

Honest question Muggsy. Are you hinting that you would use nuclear weapons on Iran?

[Hards Alumni]

Wrong.  I'm not "obsessed" with Iran.  I'm obsessed with innocent civilians being slaughtered because of a whacko ideology.  I'm obsessed with people not understanding who our enemies are.  And I'm obsessed with the United States being the dominant power of the world in lieu of China.

nm not worth.

[MU82]

With a brother and sister-in-law in Israel, they occupy most of my worries about what's going on over there. And obviously, I am concerned about the lives and safety of all innocent people in harm's way. But also, some of my thoughts are with the courageous journalists who are risking their lives to keep the world informed about this war.

According to the AP: At least 19 journalists have been killed since the start of the war, including 15 in Gaza. More journalists have been killed in Gaza in the past two weeks than the total number who died in the territory since 2001, said Sherif Mansour, Middle East and North Africa coordinator for the Committee to Protect Journalists.

[Hards Alumni]

With a brother and sister-in-law in Israel, they occupy most of my worries about what's going on over there. And obviously, I am concerned about the lives and safety of all innocent people in harm's way. But also, some of my thoughts are with the courageous journalists who are risking their lives to keep the world informed about this war.

According to the AP: At least 19 journalists have been killed since the start of the war, including 15 in Gaza. More journalists have been killed in Gaza in the past two weeks than the total number who died in the territory since 2001, said Sherif Mansour, Middle East and North Africa coordinator for the Committee to Protect Journalists.

Medical staff as well, many have been killed.