Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[jesmu84]

I could see how that conversation would go:

SIL: MU82 its good to hear your voice. We're not sure how long we are going to have phone service, as we have Hezbollah on one side ready to attack, and Hamas sending rockets our way
Mu82: I have been meaning to ask you. Why don't you think Israel is an apartheid state?
SIL: Why the F$%# would you ask me that right now? Are you seriously blaming us for the terrorist attack? Did I ask you about US policies over here, right after 9-11?
MU82: Well this internet guy said I should ask you
Line goes dead

After 9/11, we absolutely should have re-evaluted US policy. Maybe we could have avoided the deaths of many US soldiers and innocent civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan

[rocket surgeon]

I could see how that conversation would go:

SIL: MU82 its good to hear your voice. We're not sure how long we are going to have phone service, as we have Hezbollah on one side ready to attack, and Hamas sending rockets our way
Mu82: I have been meaning to ask you. Why don't you think Israel is an apartheid state?
SIL: Why the F$%# would you ask me that right now? Are you seriously blaming us for the terrorist attack? Did I ask you about US policies over here, right after 9-11?
MU82: Well this internet guy said I should ask you
Line goes dead

  this was perfect dog!  nicely done!

there is no equivalency here-maybe i missed the time israel mowed down a bunch of innocent palestinians and then took a few hundred hostages.  i googled this and i'm still searching.  so according to hardy, he thinks both sides should just get together again, smoke a bowl and shake hands

israel has had it and they are going to take out the garbage once and for all.  i just hope this also ends any more thoughts of allowing iran to continue to develop nukes even though it's probably too late now

[Uncle Rico]

  this was perfect dog!  nicely done!

there is no equivalency here-maybe i missed the time israel mowed down a bunch of innocent palestinians and then took a few hundred hostages.  i googled this and i'm still searching.  so according to hardy, he thinks both sides should just get together again, smoke a bowl and shake hands

israel has had it and they are going to take out the garbage once and for all.  i just hope this also ends any more thoughts of allowing iran to continue to develop nukes even though it's probably too late now

4 out of 10

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

  this was perfect dog!  nicely done!

there is no equivalency here-maybe i missed the time israel mowed down a bunch of innocent palestinians and then took a few hundred hostages.  i googled this and i'm still searching.  so according to hardy, he thinks both sides should just get together again, smoke a bowl and shake hands

israel has had it and they are going to take out the garbage once and for all.  i just hope this also ends any more thoughts of allowing iran to continue to develop nukes even though it's probably too late now

"maybe i missed the time israel mowed down a bunch of innocent Palestinians" means you either have your head so far up your ass that you can't smell your own S*** anymore or you consider no Palestinian, children and babies, innocent. Or more likely you see them as subhuman.

[Uncle Rico]

"maybe i missed the time israel mowed down a bunch of innocent Palestinians" means you either have your head so far up your ass that you can't smell your own S*** anymore or you consider no Palestinian, children and babies, innocent. Or more likely you see them as subhuman.

That is his second mention of smoking a bowl today.  I appreciate his incredible fear of weed but fervent belief in horse paste

[Hards Alumni]

  this was perfect dog!  nicely done!

there is no equivalency here-maybe i missed the time israel mowed down a bunch of innocent palestinians and then took a few hundred hostages.  i googled this and i'm still searching.  so according to hardy, he thinks both sides should just get together again, smoke a bowl and shake hands

israel has had it and they are going to take out the garbage once and for all.  i just hope this also ends any more thoughts of allowing iran to continue to develop nukes even though it's probably too late now

https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

Since you're interested in keeping score (kinda gross) I'll help you.  From 2008 through August 2023 The number of Palestinian children killed was 1162.  That same period of time the number of Israeli children killed was 25.  My data doesn't include hostages taken, so let's assume they didn't.  For every one Israeli child killed, more than 57 Palestinian children were killed.  Are you happy that you know the score now?  Have I educated you adequately?

[Lennys Tap]

I never said that. Talk about lack of reading comprehension.

Pakuni is a master at twisting what other people say and at complaining that others do it to him. It's his shtick.

[forgetful]

https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

Since you're interested in keeping score (kinda gross) I'll help you.  From 2008 through August 2023 The number of Palestinian children killed was 1162.  That same period of time the number of Israeli children killed was 25.  My data doesn't include hostages taken, so let's assume they didn't.  For every one Israeli child killed, more than 57 Palestinian children were killed.  Are you happy that you know the score now?  Have I educated you adequately?

For this element, it is important to determine what one considers a hostage. Does Israeli illegal detainment of women and children, where they are continued to be held despite not being accused of any crimes, or any criminal proceedings moving forwards count as hostages?

[rocket surgeon]

"maybe i missed the time israel mowed down a bunch of innocent Palestinians" means you either have your head so far up your ass that you can't smell your own S*** anymore or you consider no Palestinian, children and babies, innocent. Or more likely you see them as subhuman.

none of the above there plaque man...go do a bowl and brush your teeth

[Uncle Rico]

none of the above there plaque man...go do a bowl and brush your teeth

7.5 out of 10

[MuggsyB]

Have there been any actual pictures of this Gaza hospital attack?  You would think if 500 people were killed we would have some serious mages regardless of who is responsible. 

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

none of the above there plaque man...go do a bowl and brush your teeth

what if you are the 1 dentist of "9 out of 10 dentists agree" though?

If you don't the implications above, don't be so willfully ignorant of the realities of the actions of our allies. It is ok to acknowledge that sometimes the people you support do bad things. This isn't a zero sum game.

[MuggsyB]

what if you are the 1 dentist of "9 out of 10 dentists agree" though?

If you don't the implications above, don't be so willfully ignorant of the realities of the actions of our allies. It is ok to acknowledge that sometimes the people you support do bad things. This isn't a zero sum game.

Is it okay to acknowledge that there is no moral equivalency whatsoever and that Islamic Terrorism, and asshat regimes like in Iran, pose a serious threat to the world?

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Is it okay to acknowledge that there is no moral equivalency whatsoever and that Islamic Terrorism, and asshat regimes like in Iran, pose a serious threat to the world?

You can say what you want. No one is stopping you.

I did not mention Islamic terrorism in my topic, and if you are insinuating I am downplaying it then feel free to think that way but to be honest, you should not have to offer disclaimers of literally everything and everyone else that is bad when you are talking about something. Your whataboutism is just your means of deflecting some atrocities I suppose. I was only saying that it was pure ignorant bliss to pretend there are not large numbers of innocent civilians caught up in crossfire here, and to deny that would be to deny personhood and innocence to children, which is absolutely what some people here are doing (AKA Islam bad!).

To be honest, your continued fixation on Iran regime change and taking their oil is hysteria. You seem to think that invading the 17th largest country by land mass with 3 times as many people as Iraq is a walk in the park. Likely we would have to see a reinstitution of the draft if there were any hopes of an occupation. No occupation means power vacuum and another way larger radical group out to wipe us from the face of the earth due to our inability to not trip over our own d***s. Hell that actually probably happens anyway with an occupation.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Nice run on sentence ^, Sheesh

[MuggsyB]

You're a good representative of la-la-land Plague.  You "honestly" need to deal with reality. 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Muggsy's reality is that Liam Neeson movies are documentaries

[Skatastrophy]

"The USS Carney, a U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyer in the northern Red Sea, on Thursday shot down multiple missiles and drones launched by Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen that the Pentagon said were potentially headed toward targets in Israel."

Remember about the fog of war and initial reports are usually incorrect. But this is directly from the US navy.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/security-incident-involving-us-navy-destroyer-red-sea/story?id=104147141

I don't love that we're an active participant in this crapshow.

[lawdog77]

The USS Carney, a U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyer in the northern Red Sea, on Thursday shot down multiple missiles and drones launched by Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen that the Pentagon said were potentially headed toward targets in Israel.

Remember about the fog of war and initial reports are usually incorrect. But this is directly from the US navy.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/security-incident-involving-us-navy-destroyer-red-sea/story?id=104147141

I don't love that we're an active participant in this crapshow.

I'm OK with it as long as we are only playing defense. I dont want our boots on the ground, or launching missles at people

[Uncle Rico]

You're a good representative of la-la-land Plague.  You "honestly" need to deal with reality.

No, he's honestly correct and not dishonestly naive about how the world works and what America stands for

[MuggsyB]

No, he's honestly correct and not dishonestly naive about how the world works and what America stands for

Wrong.  I'm not "obsessed" with Iran.  I'm obsessed with innocent civilians being slaughtered because of a whacko ideology.  I'm obsessed with people not understanding who our enemies are.  And I'm obsessed with the United States being the dominant power of the world in lieu of China. 

[Uncle Rico]

Wrong.  I'm not "obsessed" with Iran.  I'm obsessed with innocent civilians being slaughtered because of a whacko ideology.  I'm obsessed with people not understanding who our enemies are.  And I'm obsessed with the United States being the dominant power of the world in lieu of China.

And obsessed with sending thousands of Americans to their death on a whim.

[MuggsyB]

Muggsy's reality is that Liam Neeson movies are documentaries

Let me tell you something TSmith,

There are times you simply have to use hard power.  I will admit I'm a bit more vengeful than some, but I'm looking at this with eagle vision and Blue Whale vs Krill dominance.  If we do not wake up the result will be an irrevocable s-show.   

[MuggsyB]

And obsessed with sending thousands of Americans to their death on a whim.

Uh.....no. 

[Uncle Rico]

Uh.....no.

That's the cost at a minimum getting involved militarily in the Middle East