2022-2023 NFL Season

[MU82]

Whenever I watch Josh Allen I think "that's Brett Favre."  Huge arm, very talented, a gunslinger, and a decent scrambler.  They just call more pure running plays for Allen because that's what people do now.  Mike Holmgren would never have done that for Favre.

I'm pretty sure Allen is faster than Favre was, bigger than Favre, and just a better runner, but I get the comparison.

What I've said is Allen is a more accurate version of Cam Newton. Both were large men, surprisingly fast, could run over you or around you. Both have/had big arms. Allen's a better passer, Cam at his best was more of a runner. But pretty similar all-around.

[JWags85]

Whenever I watch Josh Allen I think "that's Brett Favre."  Huge arm, very talented, a gunslinger, and a decent scrambler.  They just call more pure running plays for Allen because that's what people do now.  Mike Holmgren would never have done that for Favre.

Thats kind of my point that I made about Steve Young.  The notion of a "running QB" has changed because the game has changed and those strengths can be leveraged better and its not some slight on the QB's deficiencies as a passer

[wadesworld]

Vick was the future of the NFL.  In his first 4 seasons, he only played in 5 games due to injury his 3rd season and only played in 8 games his rookie year due to being a rookie.  His 2nd and 4th seasons he finished top 4 in MVP voting.  He just happened to run a dog fighting ring that changed the course of his career.

[JWags85]

Vick was the future of the NFL.  In his first 4 seasons, he only played in 5 games due to injury his 3rd season and only played in 8 games his rookie year due to being a rookie.  His 2nd and 4th seasons he finished top 4 in MVP voting.  He just happened to run a dog fighting ring that changed the course of his career.

And then came back after 2 years away, not just away but in prison, and a year later was second in the Offensive Player of the Year voting.  Just an absolute phenom.

[MU82]

Vick was the future of the NFL.  In his first 4 seasons, he only played in 5 games due to injury his 3rd season and only played in 8 games his rookie year due to being a rookie.  His 2nd and 4th seasons he finished top 4 in MVP voting.  He just happened to run a dog fighting ring that changed the course of his career.

But his style of play wasn't really the future because so few could play that way.

As for his performance ... while he was still putting up insane running stats, his decline as a passer was evident in the 2 seasons before the dog-fighting suspension. He was no MVP candidate in either 2005 or 2006 when he was completing 54% of his passes, committing 46 turnovers, putting up a 74.4 passer rating and "leading" the Falcons to a 15-17 record.

Vick sure was fun to watch, though. And after being reinstated, he did have a very nice career comeback for a couple years there with the Eagles.

[tower912]

Will be curious to see how the Cleveland/Buffalo game plays out this weekend.  The forecast is ridiculous.

[Jockey]

Long as the snow is under 3 feet, they should be OK.

[Billy Hoyle]

Long as the snow is under 3 feet, they should be OK.

Discussions underway about moving the game to Detroit. It works logistically as Buffalo is scheduled to beat the Lions there on Thanksgiving

https://www.woodwardsports.com/stories/buffalo-bills-game-could-be-played-at-ford-field

EDIT: now official per ESPN. Off to Detroit

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Buncha snowflakes

[tower912]

Nice.

[4everwarriors]

Game moved to DTW, aina?

[Dish]

Rodgers has gone 16 straight games under 300 yards.

Justin Fields has no 300 yard games as a pro, just so were even Steven here.

[Uncle Rico]

Rodgers has gone 16 straight games under 300 yards.

Justin Fields has no 300 yard games as a pro, just so were even Steven here.

Fields has never done a State Farm commercial

[MU82]

I was watching our heroes dispatch the mighty LIU Sharks, so I didn't tune into the latest Packers debacle until late in the third quarter. But Rodgers looked borderline incompetent over the 18 or so minutes of game time that I watched.

If I didn't know it was Aaron Rodgers, I might have thought it was Jordan Love. Or a late-model Cam Newton. Or (insert name of any inaccurate, choking QB). And as Packers fans know, this wasn't the first time that's been the case this season.

Unlike many here, I'm neither a Rodgers fan or hater. I always marveled at his talent. It's pretty incredible to see what he's become.

[4everwarriors]

Shoulda fookin' married Danica, aina?

[tower912]

Shoulda fookin' married Danica, aina?

Think of the money he saved avoiding a divorce settlement.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Rodgers still has $100 million guaranteed from the packers after this season. 

That's a lot of shares to sell.

[Uncle Rico]

Rodgers still has $100 million guaranteed from the packers after this season. 

That's a lot of shares to sell.

Just a terrible contract and totally unnecessary. 

[Lennys Tap]

Unlike many here, I'm neither a Rodgers fan or hater. I always marveled at his talent. It's pretty incredible to see what he's become.

Too many magic mushrooms.

[Jockey]

Rodgers still has $100 million guaranteed from the packers after this season. 

That's a lot of shares to sell.

Professional sports franchises all have money trees they can pick from at any time.

His contract may make it hard to deal with the salary cap, but means little to the team's ability to spend money.

[Uncle Rico]

Professional sports franchises all have money trees they can pick from at any time.

His contract may make it hard to deal with the salary cap, but means little to the team's ability to spend money.

I believe his comment was tongue-in-cheek about the shares because I laughed

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I believe his comment was tongue-in-cheek about the shares because I laughed

The shares part was a funny.

Actually, the $100m albatross contract is funny too, just in a different way.

[cheebs09]

Just a terrible contract and totally unnecessary.

Timing could not have been worse for the Packers. While on the contract that was super team-friendly, he was the MVP. When they gave him a bunch of money to commit to him, he turns back into a pumpkin.

[Jockey]

The shares part was a funny.

I figured it was since money from shares can't be used for player's contracts.

[Dish]

How are the Bills players & staff supposed to get to the airport tomorrow? How did they not leave yesterday?