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mu_hilltopper

After MN beat Buffalo, my Minnesotan sisters were talking about booking flights and tickets to the Superbowl.

It's like they haven't seen the movie before.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on November 20, 2022, 12:19:39 PM
Back in the day, they didn't have the option to defer.  The rule only changed in 2008.  So you would always elect to take the ball because the team that lost the toss selects to start the second half.

Yes, they did. Marty Mornhinweg took the wind in 2002. It just made zero sense to defer.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2002-11-25-0211250170-story.html
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

tower912

Marty, being a Lion coach, made that choice for overtime.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jockey

Quote from: tower912 on November 20, 2022, 08:37:17 PM
Marty, being a Lion coach, made that choice for overtime.

Really hard to tell what has been worse for the last few decades - the coaches or the players.

Two of my good buddies here in Wisconsin are Lions fans, so I always have a soft spot in my heart for them - unless they are playing GB. But this year, I am rooting for the Lions to beat the Packers so Gutey can screw up another high pick.

withoutbias

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 20, 2022, 07:02:08 PM
Coming into today, they were #1 in the league in penalty differential, 17th in DVOA, a negative offense success rate relative to their defense success rate, recovery on an absurd 67% of fumbles, and out gained by their opponents on a per play basis.

That was all BEFORE today's blasting.

Frauds.

Not being penalized is an important thing.

That's the same system that ranks the Packers as a top 10 offense (and not even 10th).

Frauds in the sense of not as good as a team on pace to go 15-2? Sure. They're a good football team though.

MU82

Entertaining game between Chargers and Chiefs. Mahomes gets the last word. We'll see what happens!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

Mahomes to Kelce. What a combo. Two guys headed for the Hall of Fame.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dish

Lions +650 right this second to make playoffs. The rest of their schedule is EASY too. Huge finish coming up here.

Dish

That Lions clock management on the tying FG drive was something.

MUBurrow

I think the lions offense is even better than it looks, because Goff is worse than it makes him look.

Jockey

Ghost of Matt Mullen on the sidelines?

forgetful

#1561
Quote from: MUBurrow on November 24, 2022, 02:43:57 PM
I think the lions offense is even better than it looks, because Goff is worse than it makes him look.

They are also an example of how you can't blame the Packers woes on a lack of talent on offense. The lions don't really have talent at the skill positions, but seem to have an offense that looks more efficient.

If Goff threw that last pass on target it was a TD.

MUBurrow

Quote from: forgetful on November 24, 2022, 02:49:50 PM
If Goff through that last pass on target it was a TD.

Yup and there's no way that the WR pulling up on that route was even an option given the coverage.

He also missed on an easy throw to Swift in the flat on the last drive that would have been good for 7 and out of bounds, to force a 3rd down. He's the definition of just a guy.

tower912

Most quarterbacks right now are just a guy.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

One of the most intriguing story lines developing over the coming months: What if Jimmy Garoppolo leads the 49ers to the championship? With that defense, with an excellent offensive coach, and with all the weapons surrounding Garoppolo, it definitely could happen. I mean, he was in the SB just 3 years ago with a less-talented group around him.

Do you just let that championship-winning QB walk (he'll be an unrestricted free agent) and then hand everything over to Trey Lance, who has proven about as much as a high-level QB as the average Scooper has? Do you re-sign the championship-winning QB? Do you let him walk and bring in an old man who has expressed interest in playing in the area (Rodgers, Brady)? If you don't turn the team over to Lance, what do you do with Lance -- how much trade value would he have?

With the Panthers out of it, one team I'm rooting for the rest of this season will be the Niners -- partly because I like McCaffrey but mostly because I really want to see how the above scenario plays out.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: MU82 on November 27, 2022, 09:57:13 AM
One of the most intriguing story lines developing over the coming months: What if Jimmy Garoppolo leads the 49ers to the championship? With that defense, with an excellent offensive coach, and with all the weapons surrounding Garoppolo, it definitely could happen. I mean, he was in the SB just 3 years ago with a less-talented group around him.

Do you just let that championship-winning QB walk (he'll be an unrestricted free agent) and then hand everything over to Trey Lance, who has proven about as much as a high-level QB as the average Scooper has? Do you re-sign the championship-winning QB? Do you let him walk and bring in an old man who has expressed interest in playing in the area (Rodgers, Brady)? If you don't turn the team over to Lance, what do you do with Lance -- how much trade value would he have?

With the Panthers out of it, one team I'm rooting for the rest of this season will be the Niners -- partly because I like McCaffrey but mostly because I really want to see how the above scenario plays out.

The niners way is to dump the QB that got you there.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Dish

I don't have the slightest idea what the Dolphins are doing. This is brutal decision having your backup QB come in, chuck unnecessary bombs, run no clock at all. Makes zero sense.

Dish

Panthers win currently puts the Bears at #2 in the draft.

The Sultan

Trevor Lawrence coming out party today.  Imagine wasting a year of this guy with Urban Meyer.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocket surgeon

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 27, 2022, 12:19:33 PM
The niners way is to dump the QB that got you there.

they're waiting for arod to become available to atone for their mistake 17 years ago
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Uncle Rico

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 27, 2022, 03:16:54 PM
Panthers win currently puts the Bears at #2 in the draft.

Come on down, Will Anderson
Guster is for Lovers

Dish

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 27, 2022, 04:22:44 PM
Come on down, Will Anderson

If I'm Houston, I'd take Anderson at 1, and then take a QB with the Browns pick (currently #9). They could package that pick to move back up too.

PS - I want the Bears to draft Anderson.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 27, 2022, 04:36:52 PM
If I'm Houston, I'd take Anderson at 1, and then take a QB with the Browns pick (currently #9). They could package that pick to move back up too.

PS - I want the Bears to draft Anderson.

Yeah, none of the QBs seem like certain franchise QBs.  Lot can change between now and then.  Either way, Bears will have a lot of great options to make a pick or trade for extra picks
Guster is for Lovers

Herman Cain

Terrible clock management down the stretch lost the game for The Bucs today
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jesmu84

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 27, 2022, 04:54:06 PM
Yeah, none of the QBs seem like certain franchise QBs.  Lot can change between now and then.  Either way, Bears will have a lot of great options to make a pick or trade for extra picks

If the bears end up a top 3 pick and don't trade down, I think I'll be disappointed

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