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ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 06, 2022, 04:33:30 PM
Arson Jusge to the Giants is the flaming hot rumor.
I've not heard of this Arson Jusge guy. Must not be very good.

Jockey

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on December 06, 2022, 05:35:37 PM
I've not heard of this Arson Jusge guy. Must not be very good.

He's all the rage in Uzbekistan.

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 06, 2022, 04:33:30 PM
Arson Jusge to the Giants is the flaming hot rumor.
Nope, Yankees


MU Fan in Connecticut

Aaron Judge staying with the Yankees.
9 years $360mil

MU82

$40M per year.

Reminds me of a few of Dish's best wagering years!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

I know it's funny money when it comes to the Yankees, but the thought of paying a 37 year old Judge $40MM a year...for 3 more seasons, is terrifying.  Unless he's getting the Bonds PED program

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on December 07, 2022, 09:05:26 AM
I know it's funny money when it comes to the Yankees, but the thought of paying a 37 year old Judge $40MM a year...for 3 more seasons, is terrifying.  Unless he's getting the Bonds PED program

If you get 3 great seasons and 3 good seasons out of him, especially if you win a championship or two, then you just look at the last $120M as a loss leader.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 07, 2022, 08:32:33 AM
Aaron Judge staying with the Yankees.
9 years $360mil

The owners all have money trees out back. Good or bad, this contract doesn't hurt the Yankees.

shoothoops

Quote from: JWags85 on December 07, 2022, 09:05:26 AM
I know it's funny money when it comes to the Yankees, but the thought of paying a 37 year old Judge $40MM a year...for 3 more seasons, is terrifying.  Unless he's getting the Bonds PED program

He's the the talent. He's the worker.

Team valuation is $6 Billion. Revenue of $500 million.($700 million pre-pandemic) Player expenses were well less than half of that.

The 10th highest valuation team in MLB had a $104 Million profit in 2021.

Perhaps we can pass the hat for some of these owners and look into the seat cushions for spare change.

Dish

If any team can take on the risk of $40M to a late 30's, physically broken down slugger, it's the Yankees.

I don't necessarily blame them for going 9/360, I don't think they really had much of a choice otherwise. Issue is history is unkind to guys as tall as Judge having sustained health into their mid 30's and beyond. As the years move forward, he'll probably DH almost exclusively.

Give credit to Judge as a great negotiator, his bet on himself, and it paid off (no pun intended).

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quintana to the Mets
2 years $36mil


Dish

Wilson Contreras to St. Louis. I'm here for the replies.

shoothoops

#1914
Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 07, 2022, 10:19:29 AM
Wilson Contreras to St. Louis. I'm here for the replies.

Cardinals prioritized catcher. The Murphy ask was a lot with Oakland. More often lately, the Cardinals have used trades and extensions to add vs bidding wars.

The hold up for WC to Stl has been length of deal, Cards wanted 3-4 years. WC wanted 5 years. They reached agreement about money a little while back. I would expect the deal to possibly be 4 years and meet in the middle.

Cards also looked at Toronto and Houston catchers too.

They expect their own milb catcher IH, to be ready in 2024, but they can push that back if needed.


JWags85

Quote from: shoothoops on December 07, 2022, 09:27:14 AM
He's the the talent. He's the worker.

Team valuation is $6 Billion. Revenue of $500 million.($700 million pre-pandemic) Player expenses were well less than half of that.

The 10th highest valuation team in MLB had a $104 Million profit in 2021.

Perhaps we can pass the hat for some of these owners and look into the seat cushions for spare change.

Ok?  Not really sure what your point is.  Nobody is claiming this will bankrupt the Yankees.  Just, like Dish said, its a huge salary for someone who, based on historical evidence, will not be a healthy everyday player, much less an all star, for the back half of the deal.

If someone worth $50MM pays $5MM for a house, thats probably worth $2MM and in a flood plane, because the market and bidders are crazy, nobody is crying poverty for them, but they can rightly say its an overpay based on value and risk.

Dish

The real problem is the Yankees didn't get better today, they just stayed the same/didn't get worse, and are now tighter in their internal salary cap/budget.

Meanwhile my White Sox are just hoping everyone returning has a career year in '23, which is always a wonderful plan.


LAZER

Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 07, 2022, 10:19:29 AM
Wilson Contreras to St. Louis. I'm here for the replies.
Big shoes for Willson to fill replacing the greatest catcher and one of the greatest MLB players of all time.

muwarrior69

Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 07, 2022, 11:22:40 AM
The real problem is the Yankees didn't get better today, they just stayed the same/didn't get worse, and are now tighter in their internal salary cap/budget.

Meanwhile my White Sox are just hoping everyone returning has a career year in '23, which is always a wonderful plan.

https://nypost.com/2022/12/07/aaron-judge-re-signs-with-yankees-for-360-million/

You're right they just stayed the same. The Yanks need pitching and hitting that does not rely on the home run if they want to win in the post season.

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on December 07, 2022, 09:05:26 AM
I know it's funny money when it comes to the Yankees, but the thought of paying a 37 year old Judge $40MM a year...for 3 more seasons, is terrifying.  Unless he's getting the Bonds PED program

The Padres offered more than NY and Judge turned it down.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on December 06, 2022, 05:35:37 PM
I've not heard of this Arson Jusge guy. Must not be very good.
He'll probably burn the team to the ground
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

MU82

Quote from: TSmith34 on December 07, 2022, 05:42:16 PM
He'll probably burn the team to the ground

Just wait till his bat gets hot.

He'll really fire up the fans.

Before she was his wife, Samantha Bracksieck was his flame.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 07, 2022, 09:56:45 AM
Quintana to the Mets
2 years $36mil

I think it's actually 26 million - but given today's numbers, 10 mil seems almost like a rounding error.

Dish

Bogaerts to Padres, $280/11.

No idea where the Padres keep finding cash at, but I'd like to get in on that.

Jockey

Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 07, 2022, 11:22:21 PM
Bogaerts to Padres, $280/11.

No idea where the Padres keep finding cash at, but I'd like to get in on that.

I was surprised when they offered Judge $400 mil.

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