2022 MLB Thread

[CTWarrior]

Bogaerts to Padres, $280/11.

No idea where the Padres keep finding cash at, but I'd like to get in on that.

As a Red Sox fan, I really hate to lose Bogaerts, but I don't get this at all from the Padres perspective.  They already have 3 guys who are as good or better than Bogaerts at defending SS, and he's going to hit .270s with 10-15 HR in SD.  And he's 31.  Why do they need him? Why for 11 years?  The Sox could likely have locked him up in the spring for the 6/160 they ended up offering him.  At that price he would be great.

[Lennys Tap]

Bogaerts to Padres, $280/11.

No idea where the Padres keep finding cash at, but I'd like to get in on that.

He'll be the third best SS on San Diego. Why would anybody commit to that kind of contract for an above average 31 year old 2nd baseman? Crazy.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

He'll be the third best SS on San Diego. Why would anybody commit to that kind of contract for an above average 31 year old 2nd baseman? Crazy.

Padres ownership's coke binge must be a hell of a good time.

[Jockey]

He'll be the third best SS on San Diego. Why would anybody commit to that kind of contract for an above average 31 year old 2nd baseman? Crazy.

Because all owners are flush with cash.

[tower912]

Convince them you are a left handed reliever and you, too, can get paid.

[Lennys Tap]

Because all owners are flush with cash.

Bogaerts is a good to very good player, but he's not a star - especially as a 2nd baseman. Turner is a much better player who will play a much more important position. If B is worth 11/280, T is worth 11/360. Either the Padres overpaid for B or the Phillies stole T.

IMO it's the former.

[tower912]

Bogaerts is a good to very good player, but he's not a star - especially as a 2nd baseman. Turner is a much better player who will play a much more important position. If B is worth 11/280, T is worth 11/360. Either the Padres overpaid for B or the Phillies stole T.

IMO it's the former.

You referenced earlier that the numbers are so high they are imaginary.  It feels that way.   What it reminds me of are the Yankees at the dawning of the free agent era.   Like king George then, it feels like San Diego is just buying a pennant without really figuring out how they are going to fit together.   
The pieces still have to fit.

[JWags85]

You referenced earlier that the numbers are so high they are imaginary.  It feels that way.   What it reminds me of are the Yankees at the dawning of the free agent era.   Like king George then, it feels like San Diego is just buying a pennant without really figuring out how they are going to fit together.   
The pieces still have to fit.

While the cost is insanely high, they have insane flexibility in the infield.  Machado can play SS/3B, Tatis SS/LF/RF, Bogaerts SS/3B/2B?....then Jake Cronenworth, who everyone forgets about, B2B All Star who can play 1B/2B/SS.  And still have Kim at 2B/SS.  Its a terrifying wealth of riches.  Not even considering Soto in RF.

[Jockey]

While the cost is insanely high, they have insane flexibility in the infield.  Machado can play SS/3B, Tatis SS/LF/RF, Bogaerts SS/3B/2B?....then Jake Cronenworth, who everyone forgets about, B2B All Star who can play 1B/2B/SS.  And still have Kim at 2B/SS.  Its a terrifying wealth of riches.  Not even considering Soto in RF.

People forget that Soto will be a FA and Machado will have an opt out. These huge salaries aren't all locked in for 10 years.

[Dish]

With the Cohen tax added in, the Mets payroll will be north of $420 million in 2023.

[Dish]

This Brewers/A's/Braves catcher swap is interesting. Not sure yet all the moving parts here, but I like Contreras going to Milwaukee. I have no idea yet what the Brewers traded away, so my opinion could change.

[wadesworld]

Adames also going out.  Not great.  Not sure what the Brewers are doing with their infield.

[cheebs09]

Adames also going out.  Not great.  Not sure what the Brewers are doing with their infield.

Is that confirmed? I haven't seen that anywhere. Although, just Ruiz would be robbery.

[wadesworld]

Is that confirmed? I haven't seen that anywhere. Although, just Ruiz would be robbery.

Yeah, in looking more some people think Willy is in, others think he is not, and others think that's the hold up in the trade being finalized.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Crew is trading Ruiz.  Willy not part of trade.

[wadesworld]

Crew is trading Ruiz.  Willy not part of trade.

Wow.  The Hader trade might end up being okay after all.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Wow.  The Hader trade might end up being okay after all.

There was rumors of a 2nd deadline deal that fell through.  Wonder if this is related to that trade?

[wadesworld]

There was rumors of a 2nd deadline deal that fell through.  Wonder if this is related to that trade?

I had heard the Brewers thought they had Josh Bell at the deadline.

[PGsHeroes32]

Health is the reason it is such a big upgrade.

Cy Young winner vs. oft injured great pitcher who starts 12-14 games a year.

He threw 200 innings each of 17-19.

2020 was a covid year.

He had one lengthy injury that he has since returned from. Pitchers miss a year all the time for an injury, see JV.

There can be concerns at his age on the injury recurring. But "oft" injured is a false narrative.

[GB Warrior]

Good get for the Brewers. Ruiz could be good, but they have several guys who they probably think profile just as good or better in CF.

I have to say - I don't fully get the move for the Braves. They get one of the better all around Cs with multiple years of control, but they had a good one (albeit lacking in defense) and a good defensive backup. Seems like a lot to give up to make that happen.

[Jockey]

Good get for the Brewers. Ruiz could be good, but they have several guys who they probably think profile just as good or better in CF.

I have to say - I don't fully get the move for the Braves. They get one of the better all around Cs with multiple years of control, but they had a good one (albeit lacking in defense) and a good defensive backup. Seems like a lot to give up to make that happen.

Baseball America had 4 outfielders in the Brewers system rated higher than Ruiz.

[MU82]

FWIW, The Athletic said the Brewers "won" the trade.

[shoothoops]

Reports confirmed that the A's and Cardinals almost made a deal for Murphy, the Cards first choice at catcher. Oakland asked for prospect Gordon Graceffo and either Lars Nootbaar or Brendan Donovan. Cards said no. Cards countered with any 2 of Carlson, Gorman, Yepez, Burelson. Oakland said no. So Cards signed Contreras.

Oakland wanted to take advantage of their catcher situation. They apparently really like Ruiz as a long term centerfielder.

Braves strongly preferred a defensive catcher and made the deal for Murphy.

[Dish]

Correa to Giants, AAV isn't terrible either ($350/13, I mean eventually it will be, but I thought he'd get $30 per).

[Dr. Blackheart]

Correa to Giants, AAV isn't terrible either ($350/13, I mean eventually it will be, but I thought he'd get $30 per).

Jed is a total whiff at this point. Can't carry Theo's jock strap.