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Author Topic: 2022 MLB Thread  (Read 120993 times)

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« Reply #1875 on: December 04, 2022, 07:48:53 AM »
I thought he was going to get between $45 - $50 per. I certainly won’t argue against his health concerns, I just don’t think this is as bad as I thought it was going to be.
Why would you pay 1/5 to 1/6 of the salary cap figure for a guy who you cannot count on to be healthy, especially when healthy probably means only 175 innings or so (30 starts at a little less than 6 IP/per).

I think the biggest gambles this offseason are deGrom and Judge.
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« Reply #1876 on: December 04, 2022, 12:33:05 PM »
Why would you pay 1/5 to 1/6 of the salary cap figure for a guy who you cannot count on to be healthy, especially when healthy probably means only 175 innings or so (30 starts at a little less than 6 IP/per).

I think the biggest gambles this offseason are deGrom and Judge.

I agree that they are the biggest gambles becuase they'll have the biggest x longest contracts, but the cap isn't the cap for Texas, LAD, NYY, NYM, and Bos.  They'll dip in and out of the tax to reset the repeater penalties, but pay the tax more often than not. 

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« Reply #1877 on: December 04, 2022, 08:56:45 PM »
Fred McGriff was the only candidate chosen for induction by the contemporary HoF voting committee.

Bonds and Clemens weren’t close.
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« Reply #1878 on: December 04, 2022, 09:07:11 PM »
Fred McGriff was the only candidate chosen for induction by the contemporary HoF voting committee.

Bonds and Clemens weren’t close.

He's a guy you don't think of as a HoF'er, but he had a very nice run of about 15 years or so.

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« Reply #1879 on: December 05, 2022, 06:52:21 AM »
Fred McGriff was the only candidate chosen for induction by the contemporary HoF voting committee.

Bonds and Clemens weren’t close.
This is what I thought would happen, though I didn't have a good feel for what would happen with Schilling.  It will be nice someday for HOF voting/discussions get back to what happened on the field, rather than steroids or personality issues.  McGriff is a borderline candidate, but he was better than a lot of guys already enshrined and I am glad he is in.

If Schilling just kept his mouth shut, I think he probably would have sneaked in on his last year on the writer's ballot. 
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« Reply #1880 on: December 05, 2022, 08:54:33 AM »
Fred McGriff was the only candidate chosen for induction by the contemporary HoF voting committee.

Bonds and Clemens weren’t close.

Tom Emanaki is more proud of this than his back to back to back AAU championships.

(Fŭck that garbage can drill, Tom, that's how I wrecked my rotator cuff, you prick.)

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« Reply #1882 on: December 05, 2022, 12:28:40 PM »
Huge upgrade for Mets signing Verlander over deGrom.

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« Reply #1883 on: December 05, 2022, 12:52:53 PM »
Huge upgrade for Mets signing Verlander over deGrom.

Both are outstanding when healthy, and I wouldn't dispute those who say deGrom at his best is the #1 starting pitcher in baseball.

But the Mets got to make a much shorter-term commitment to Verlander at far less total money. And if I had to bet on one being able to make more starts, including postseason, I'd bet on Verlander.
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« Reply #1884 on: December 05, 2022, 01:19:13 PM »
Both are outstanding when healthy, and I wouldn't dispute those who say deGrom at his best is the #1 starting pitcher in baseball.

But the Mets got to make a much shorter-term commitment to Verlander at far less total money. And if I had to bet on one being able to make more starts, including postseason, I'd bet on Verlander.

Health is the reason it is such a big upgrade.

Cy Young winner vs. oft injured great pitcher who starts 12-14 games a year.

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« Reply #1885 on: December 05, 2022, 01:40:31 PM »
Trea Turner to the Fightin' Phils.

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« Reply #1886 on: December 05, 2022, 06:38:48 PM »
This is what I thought would happen, though I didn't have a good feel for what would happen with Schilling.  It will be nice someday for HOF voting/discussions get back to what happened on the field, rather than steroids or personality issues.  McGriff is a borderline candidate, but he was better than a lot of guys already enshrined and I am glad he is in.

If Schilling just kept his mouth shut, I think he probably would have sneaked in on his last year on the writer's ballot.

100% agree on both McGriff and Schilling.

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« Reply #1888 on: December 06, 2022, 06:28:19 AM »
Yikes. His third.

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« Reply #1889 on: December 06, 2022, 06:31:39 AM »
Tom Emanaki is more proud of this than his back to back to back AAU championships.

(Fŭck that garbage can drill, Tom, that's how I wrecked my rotator cuff, you prick.)

Have we been told if McGriff’s HOF bust will have his hat perched bizarrely high on his head?

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« Reply #1890 on: December 06, 2022, 08:54:14 AM »
Yikes. His third.

He’s dedicated! You don’t half-ass things in St. Louis.
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« Reply #1891 on: December 06, 2022, 08:59:32 AM »
Yikes. His third.

Three strikes. Yer out.

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« Reply #1893 on: December 06, 2022, 09:28:34 AM »
Yikes. His third.

Act like you've been there before, hey?

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« Reply #1894 on: December 06, 2022, 09:40:02 AM »
Have some empathy, the guy has to spend 70% of his year in St. Louis.

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« Reply #1895 on: December 06, 2022, 10:52:51 AM »
Act like you've been there before, hey?

OK, this made me laugh.
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« Reply #1896 on: December 06, 2022, 03:23:05 PM »
The real winner here is Josh Bell, he’s probably now looking at a 3 year $55M deal from someone (Cleveland?).

Yup.

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« Reply #1897 on: December 06, 2022, 04:26:37 PM »
The real, real winner is Andrew Heaney. He will probably make more $$$ per start than Verlander.

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« Reply #1898 on: December 06, 2022, 04:33:30 PM »
Arson Jusge to the Giants is the flaming hot rumor.

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« Reply #1899 on: December 06, 2022, 05:32:51 PM »
Why do the Cubs want Bellinger? Jason Heyward is a better hitter and is cheaper.

 

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