2022 MLB Thread

[muwarrior69]

Reports confirmed that the A’s and Cardinals almost made a deal for Murphy, the Cards first choice at catcher. Oakland asked for prospect Gordon Graceffo and either Lars Nootbaar or Brendan Donovan. Cards said no. Cards countered with any 2 of Carlson, Gorman, Yepez, Burelson. Oakland said no. So Cards signed Contreras.

Oakland wanted to take advantage of their catcher situation. They apparently really like Ruiz as a long term centerfielder.

Braves strongly preferred a defensive catcher and made the deal for Murphy.

Are the A's moving to Vegas?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Are the A's moving to Vegas?

Most likely, but nothing set in stone yet.

[shoothoops]

Are the A's moving to Vegas?

Perpetually limbo. Best thing for them would be for Fisher to sell the team which is not on the horizon.

They recently missed a deadline for a waterfront project agreement. So, now the kick the can time table is…..by end of year, etc…lease is up in 2024.

Las Vegas possible locations have been Tropicana and Circus Circus. However, unlike the $750 million (sheesh) in public money the Raiders received, they would have to mostly privately fund it as the NHL team did there. They are seeking TIF money etc…

Perhaps Sternberg can sell in Tampa too.

If one is unable or unwilling to privately finance a stadium/facilities, then perhaps one doesn’t need to own a team.

And of course a few other cities/metros wait in the wings.

[MU82]

If one is unable or unwilling to privately finance a stadium/facilities, then perhaps one doesn’t need to own a team.

Well sure ... but over the years many municipalities have been willing to put taxpayers on the hook for facilities. So why should any of these rich people think their cases will be different?

One of the richest men in the world owns the Carolina Panthers. In a few years, he will demand a new stadium -- and will demand significant taxpayer help paying for it. He might even threaten to move the team. And he almost surely will get what he's asking for. I don't love it, but that's just the way it is if a city wants to keep or attract a team.

Every once in awhile, a stadium is funded privately. That's a great thing, and I wish it happened more often, but those are outliers.

[shoothoops]

Well sure ... but over the years many municipalities have been willing to put taxpayers on the hook for facilities. So why should any of these rich people think their cases will be different?

One of the richest men in the world owns the Carolina Panthers. In a few years, he will demand a new stadium -- and will demand significant taxpayer help paying for it. He might even threaten to move the team. And he almost surely will get what he's asking for. I don't love it, but that's just the way it is if a city wants to keep or attract a team.

Every once in awhile, a stadium is funded privately. That's a great thing, and I wish it happened more often, but those are outliers.

1) The question was Las Vegas MLB.
2) This is the baseball thread.
3) Man/most examples of public money are football stadiums. Las Vegas for example doesn’t currently have a big public money appetite after the recent public money football stadium. Hence the term limbo, and the examples of things dragging on and on with Oakland, Tampa etc….

As for football, there will always be billionaires seeking public money for their projects. And, some will get that. That doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.

As for Charlotte, Tepper has a net worth approaching $20 billion. The soccer team plays in an NFL stadium. And we’ll see how financing goes with a possible future MLB team facilities if and when that happens.

https://www.wcnc.com/amp/article/sports/nfl/panthers/david-tepper-gt-real-estate-city-of-rock-hill-20-million-settlement-panthers-rock-hill-training-facility-headquarters/275-990b16bb-6df9-463b-8f2b-c189e670c58e

As for baseball, here’s how that TIF money is going in Atlanta:

https://www.thecentersquare.com/georgia/report-braves-stadium-costing-cobb-county-taxpayers-15m-annually/article_db606e60-9e5e-11ec-97b6-a37e2dd445ca.html

[MU82]

Numerous MLB teams play in ballparks financed in great part by taxpayer money -- including the one a large percentage of Scoopers root for, and including the one you root for ($45 million long-term loan under favorable terms).

I hope Vegas can do it privately if it happens. That's what everyone except for the billionaires would prefer.

[shoothoops]

Numerous MLB teams play in ballparks financed in great part by taxpayer money -- including the one a large percentage of Scoopers root for, and including the one you root for ($45 million long-term loan under favorable terms).

I hope Vegas can do it privately if it happens. That's what everyone except for the billionaires would prefer.

In 2003. $45 million of the poject was a county loan with favorable terms to be repaid with interest of a $400 plus million project. And, a football stadium wasn't recently built nearby. Years later after getting fleeced in public money to build a football stadium, public money was voted against for an MLS stadium. A new ownership group emerged to largely privately finance the new $500 million soccer stadium which opened this year. (The owners were given $5.7 million in state tax credits.)

Las Vegas recently spent $750 million towards its new football stadium. By many accounts, they don't seem eager to spend a lot for a new baseball stadium.

[Pakuni]

White Sox sign Benintendi for 5 years/$75 million.
The Chris Sale trade is now complete.

[DegenerateDish]

Benintendi finally becomes a White Sox outfielder (the team was set to draft him in 2015 before Boston selected him one pick ahead of Chicago).

This deal is fine, not awful, not a home run signing.

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

Benintendi finally becomes a White Sox outfielder (the team was set to draft him in 2015 before Boston selected him one pick ahead of Chicago).

This deal is fine, not awful, not a home run signing.

This means moving eloy to full time dh right?

[Lennys Tap]

This means moving eloy to full time dh right?

Discounting the remote possibility that he gets traded I’d say yes.

[DegenerateDish]

It’ll be funny next offseason when the Mets give Ohtani 10 years/$1 billion.

[tower912]

Correa, Giants, Mets, oy.

[MU82]

It’ll be funny next offseason when the Mets give Ohtani 10 years/$1 billion.

Shohei the money!

[MUBurrow]

Correa, Giants, Mets, oy.

Considering he hurriedly took a Mets deal that was 1 year and $35MM less than the Giants, those Giants doctors probably deserve a nice Christmas bonus.  Not easy to poop in the punchbowl on a huge FA signing like that.

[JWags85]

Dansby got people getting teary eyed at the intro presser.  He's not Correa or Trea Turner but he's gonna be an easy guy to root for.

[DegenerateDish]

So is Correa going to play for the Kane County Cougars next year? At this rate, he’s not going to be insurable by an MLB team.

[HouWarrior]

So is Correa going to play for the Kane County Cougars next year? At this rate, he’s not going to be insurable by an MLB team.

Before he left here to go to the Twins, the Astros offered 5 years $160 million, and Correa turned it down. As Astros knew every injury from day one this was as far as they'd go. This is also because.... Except for his free agency lead up year of 2021, Carlos never played a full Astros season...he was oft injured. I still think it was reasonable, and seeing the issues others have, Astros offer was close to right on.

But the ship sailed before that year even began. Prior to 2021, Correa got so excited when his buddy Lindor signed his huge Mets FA deal, it became obvious to us here he expected that longer term around $300 million mega deal. Its been a rocky road ever since to reach that plateau and Correa may not ever get it.

Its worked out Ok here ...Jeremy Pena has Astros covered at SS for at least 5 years super cheap and no Correa freed up money for others, like Kyle Tucker and Framber Valdez, both of whom likely will be locked in for a longer stay, during this year. Heck Astros may even try to lock up Pena or Christian Javier... as they also saved a bunch on Verlander going to Mets.

I would expect Astros to still grab a backup catcher in a trade
and they'd like another utility...esp good fit is Yuli Gurriel on a 1 year deal

[DegenerateDish]

Liam Hendriks diagnosed with non Hodgkins Lymphoma.

Prayers up for a good dude.

[wadesworld]

Big news for PGsHeros

[PGsHeroes32]

Such a Twins way to end up with a big contract.

I like the deal though. Im not worried about 6 years of Correa.

Of course, this is all assuming we abandon the Twins way and view this as an actual window to go for broke and get other players. Cause we still kinda need some pitching......like always.

[GB Warrior]

Just sell the team, Mark https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1614138927257976832?t=pJfjZXmT-Fqv8xiQzBBHJA&s=19

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Just sell the team, Mark https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1614138927257976832?t=pJfjZXmT-Fqv8xiQzBBHJA&s=19

I mean…who cares? He’s going to be gone when he hits free agency in a couple of years. 

[Hards Alumni]

I mean…who cares? He’s going to be gone when he hits free agency in a couple of years.

The man is a former Cy Young winner.  He's one of the best pitchers in the game.  $10.75m is still a steal.

Couple of years?

Good lord.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

The man is a former Cy Young winner.  He's one of the best pitchers in the game.  $10.75m is still a steal.

Couple of years?

Good lord.

Yes. They have his rights for 23 and 24. Why pay more than they have to?