More conference realignment talk

[tower912]

 You are correct.   It will be a return to what it looked like prior to UConn's return.

[MurphysTillClose]

You are correct.   It will be a return to what it looked like prior to UConn's return.

Which doesn't look great without Nova Jay Wright now does it?

The B12 isn't done either. You're not understanding the BE placement in high level college athletics at the moment.

[tower912]

But it has Shaka.  And Greg.  And Pitino.  Cooley.   The sky is not falling.
   
All along, the Big East has known that UConn would leave if a football conference came calling.    It was discussed here.ad infinitum.   So, if it happens, inconvenient.  But not actually a problem.   The remaining schools will revert to the old format and thank UConn for the tournament shares and departure fees.

I would prefer UCONN stays.

[MurphysTillClose]

But it has Shaka.  And Greg.  And Pitino.  Cooley.   The sky is not falling.
   
All along, the Big East has known that UConn would leave if a football conference came calling.    It was discussed here.ad infinitum.   So, if it happens, inconvenient.  But not actually a problem.   The remaining schools will revert to the old format and thank UConn for the tournament shares and departure fees.

I would prefer UCONN stays.

Again. The B12 isn't done. Yormark has made it clear he wants to build out basketball. BE schools will be poached and leave.

[wadesworld]

Again. The B12 isn't done. Yormark has made it clear he wants to build out basketball. BE schools will be poached and leave.

And you think MU won't be one of those schools, if the B12 is going to take so much that the BE is screwed?

[tower912]

Remind me again how many times that P5 conferences have added basketball only schools?   A few months ago, the random talk was that maybe the Big East could poach Duke and/or Wake when the ACC imploded.

Anything is possible.   But I don't see this as an issue until the new media deal comes to an end.

[MurphysTillClose]

Remind me again how many times that P5 conferences have added basketball only schools?   A few months ago, the random talk was that maybe the Big East could poach Duke and/or Wake when the ACC imploded.

Anything is possible.   But I don't see this as an issue until the new media deal comes to an end.

Another reminder we're in different territory than 2013. You have to stop looking at college athletics like the past. Hoops only deals/contracts will not be surprising at all

[wadesworld]

Another reminder we're in different territory than 2013. You have to stop looking at college athletics like the past. Hoops only deals/contracts will not be surprising at all

Football has always and will always run college athletics.

[GoldenWarrior11]

I predict nothing immediately comes from this.

BY still longs for a NE presence and a separation of FB/BB contracts (spoiler alert: another conference already does this).  Just as with Gonzaga, UConn doesn't have AD or President majority support to vote them in.  It's even being said that they aren't adding money; it's just not lowering it.

Big 12 jumped the gun on adding Cincinnati, UCF and Houston (especially after getting the Corner 4).  Schools like Louisville, Miami and VT may be available if UNC bolts.  Time is on their side.

[Herman Cain]

Big East made a fundamental mistake when they negotiated the return of U Conn. Created a sliding scale downward of exit fees . It is now $15 million , which is very digestible.

Yes , it was nice while it lasted. I guess Big East will have the pick of the remnants of the ACC. Or maybe merge with the remnants.

MU needs to keep making tournaments and continue the solid, relatively mistake free , recruiting of Shaka era.

https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/uconn/article/mens-basketball-womens-basketball-big-12-big-east-19714939.php

[wadesworld]

Big East made a fundamental mistake when they negotiated the return of U Conn. Created a sliding scale downward of exit fees . It is now $15 million , which is very digestible.

Yes , it was nice while it lasted. I guess Big East will have the pick of the remnants of the ACC. Or maybe merge with the remnants.

MU needs to keep making tournaments and continue the solid, relatively mistake free , recruiting of Shaka era.

https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/uconn/article/mens-basketball-womens-basketball-big-12-big-east-19714939.php

Or the BE can stay where they are. Like before UCONN rejoined.

[BM1090]

Yeah, I think the worry is overblown. Specifically if the worry is that the Big 12 is going to raid the BE. MU would be right near the top of their list it if comes to that.

[The Sultan]

How about the Big East go after Kansas?  With the recent losses of major programs from the Big 12, how attractive are they really?  It's not a good football conference anyway.

UCONN belongs in the Big East. 

The B12 is a fine football conference. And there is zero chance Kansas drops football.

[Scoop Snoop]

Yeah, I think the worry is overblown. Specifically if the worry is that the Big 12 is going to raid the BE. MU would be right near the top of their list it if comes to that.

I get the speculation, but posting as if you are stating facts rather than opinions? Even if Murphy is Yormark, you do not know how this will play out.

[MurphysTillClose]

I get the speculation, but posting as if you are stating facts rather than opinions? Even if Murphy is Yormark, you do not know how this will play out.

Not worried about anything. Just don't think BE schools like UCONN, Nova, Creighton, or even MU, will be in the Big East in the future.

[The Sultan]

I don't see the B12 taking multiple basketball schools. I see them taking UConn and that's about it. And he'd have to talk the B12 Presidents into that because football is where the money is made.

[Scoop Snoop]

Not worried about anything. Just don't think BE schools like UCONN, Nova, Creighton, or even MU, will be in the Big East in the future.

I get your "don't think...." and I did not imply you were "worried" about anything. To me, your tone in previous posts here was that what you were stating was almost factual. That was the point I was making.

In addition to the "old" BE crumbling, how many people thought the PAC 10-12 was about to collapse? I think the BE survives and thrives, but keep a wary eye on realignment patterns. 

[lawdog77]

I don't see the B12 taking multiple basketball schools. I see them taking UConn and that's about it. And he'd have to talk the B12 Presidents into that because football is where the money is made.

I believe part of UCONN'S admission would be that they have to invest in making their football program viable

[Scoop Snoop]

I believe part of UCONN'S admission would be that they have to invest in making their football program viable

Instead of free admission, they may have to actually pay people to watch it.

[tower912]

https://www.thehour.com/sports/uconn/article/big-12-expansion-football-basketball-yormack-19719636.php

A few paragraphs in, Val says there are contracts and procedures in place for this eventuality.     

[MU1in77]

My bigger worry is what the football schools do with the NCAA B'ball tournament.  Everyone seems to say that there is no way they would tamper with the thing that keeps the NCAA afloat financially but when did the power conferences ever give a dam about the basketball only or lower football schools.  My brother in law was the AD at an Atlantic 10 school (retired in the last 5 years) and he is very concerned about what the outlook of college sports will be in the next 5-10 years.  Face it, without the chance to play in the tournament there is no future for MU basketball.

[Johnny B]

Or the BE can stay where they are. Like before UCONN rejoined.

Let's just stay in the nationally irrelevant mediocre big east(assuming no blue blood nova or UConn) and not strive to get anything better. you'd think other super fans of this program would want to be in a top tier basketball league playing against the big names. You know getting all the eye balls. Not going to seton hall and butler

[The Sultan]

Let's just stay in the nationally irrelevant mediocre big east(assuming no blue blood nova or UConn) and not strive to get anything better. you'd think other super fans of this program would want to be in a top tier basketball league playing against the big names. You know getting all the eye balls. Not going to seton hall and butler

Wait.  Why would UConn leaving turn the Big East "nationally irrelevant?"  Did I miss something prior to UConn rejoining the league?

[tower912]

The Big East is still the premier non-football conference.   Not even close.   And that will not change.

[WhiteTrash]

I'd guess Val has Gonzaga tee'd up if something happens.