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Johnny B

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 24, 2024, 11:33:20 AM
Wait.  Why would UConn leaving turn the Big East "nationally irrelevant?"  Did I miss something prior to UConn rejoining the league?
Yeah you missed that I also included a non power house nova as well.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: Johnny B on August 24, 2024, 12:01:34 PM
Yeah you missed that I also included a non power house nova as well.

Ok. What about Marquette? Creighton?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Johnny B

Quote from: tower912 on August 24, 2024, 11:36:37 AM
The Big East is still the premier non-football conference.   Not even close.   And that will not change.
Not having football doesn't matter. Any big east team would accept an invite to the big ten or big 12 in 2 seconds if offered

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

DFW HOYA

Quote from: Johnny B on August 24, 2024, 12:04:10 PM
Not having football doesn't matter. Any big east team would accept an invite to the big ten or big 12 in 2 seconds if offered

No they wouldn't.


Johnny B

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 24, 2024, 12:03:16 PM
Ok. What about Marquette? Creighton?
It's not bad it's just kinda meh.. geroregtown coming back to relevance would help a lot.

The Sultan

Quote from: Johnny B on August 24, 2024, 12:09:13 PM
It's not bad it's just kinda meh.. geroregtown coming back to relevance would help a lot.


Jeez. You're fun.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Johnny B


tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

lawdog77

#3386
There's this, I know it's the old bid, but wondering if they just dust it off and resend it.
https://uconn.edu/public-notification/big-12-records/

Herman Cain

Could end up be careful what you wish for with respect to U Conn basketball.

Going from easy top 3 in Big East every season , having steady flow of  top level talent , to battling it out in Big 12 and potentially lower seeds if performance is not the best. Also no real upgrade in talent since they are already recruiting well.

U Conn football big problem is they have a mediocre stadium far from campus and thus no real college football vibe . No appetite any where to change that.

Notwithstanding the above, U Conn is hell bent for leather to be in a P5 (P4) Conference

Waiting for ACC developments is a much better way to go . Would be a more natural fit that would up both their sports

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: Herman Cain on August 24, 2024, 12:39:28 PM
Could end up be careful what you wish for with respect to U Conn basketball.

Going from easy top 3 in Big East every season , having steady flow of  top level talent , to battling it out in Big 12 and potentially lower seeds if performance is not the best. Also no real upgrade in talent since they are already recruiting well.

U Conn football big problem is they have a mediocre stadium far from campus and thus no real college football vibe . No appetite any where to change that.

Notwithstanding the above, U Conn is hell bent for leather to be in a P5 (P4) Conference

Waiting for ACC developments is a much better way to go . Would be a more natural fit that would up both their sports

If UConn wanted to be in the ACC, they'd already be in the ACC.  I'll leave it at that.

wadesworld

Quote from: Herman Cain on August 24, 2024, 12:39:28 PM
Could end up be careful what you wish for with respect to U Conn basketball.

Going from easy top 3 in Big East every season , having steady flow of  top level talent , to battling it out in Big 12 and potentially lower seeds if performance is not the best. Also no real upgrade in talent since they are already recruiting well.

U Conn football big problem is they have a mediocre stadium far from campus and thus no real college football vibe . No appetite any where to change that.

Notwithstanding the above, U Conn is hell bent for leather to be in a P5 (P4) Conference

Waiting for ACC developments is a much better way to go . Would be a more natural fit that would up both their sports

UConn would've been just fine in the Big 12, and will be if they go, as long as Hurley is around.

wadesworld

Quote from: Johnny B on August 24, 2024, 12:04:10 PM
Not having football doesn't matter. Any big east team would accept an invite to the big ten or big 12 in 2 seconds if offered

Of course MU would love to join the Big 12 if they're raiding the BE. But that's not going to me MU's call, so not sure what freaking out on a message board will do.

MU is in great shape with Shaka. The BE will be strong if only UCONN leaves. If more get raided, MU will be one of them, so win win.

TallTitan34

Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 24, 2024, 11:39:41 AM
I'd guess Val has Gonzaga tee'd up if something happens.

Zero interest in Gonzaga.

Only replace if you can get Duke, Wake, Syracuse, etc when the ACC eventually falls apart which it will.

tower912

In that scenario, the sky is not falling and MU is not doomed.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

wadesworld

Quote from: TallTitan34 on August 24, 2024, 01:06:54 PM
Zero interest in Gonzaga.

Only replace if you can get Duke, Wake, Syracuse, etc when the ACC eventually falls apart which it will.

You have zero interest in Gonzaga but want...Wake Forest and Syracuse?

TallTitan34

Quote from: wadesworld on August 24, 2024, 02:16:28 PM
You have zero interest in Gonzaga but want...Wake Forest and Syracuse?

I'd prefer only adding Duke, but I'd take Syracuse, Wake, etc. over Dayton, SLU, etc. if more teams were needed for TV money.

Gonzaga is too far away and Few can't have too many years left. I think it's more likely they become Butler without Few than maintaining their level of success. 

wadesworld

Quote from: TallTitan34 on August 24, 2024, 03:08:48 PM
I'd prefer only adding Duke, but I'd take Syracuse, Wake, etc. over Dayton, SLU, etc. if more teams were needed for TV money.

Gonzaga is too far away and Few can't have too many years left. I think it's more likely they become Butler without Few than maintaining their level of success.

Syracuse has been Butler for the last number of years and is nothing without Boeheim. Wake has made 6 total NCAA Tournaments in the history of the program outside of the Dave Odom/Skip Prosser run.

Distance is a total non issue. UCLA and USC are in the Big 10. Stanford and Cal are in the ACC.

The Sultan

Quote from: wadesworld on August 24, 2024, 03:37:33 PM
Syracuse has been Butler for the last number of years and is nothing without Boeheim. Wake has made 6 total NCAA Tournaments in the history of the program outside of the Dave Odom/Skip Prosser run.

Distance is a total non issue. UCLA and USC are in the Big 10. Stanford and Cal are in the ACC.


Mostly because of football.

Distance is an issue that can be overcome, but it's not "a total non-issue."
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

brewcity77

Selling it to the rest of the league also matters. Far better chance of getting Providence, SHU, etc on board for Syracuse than Gonzaga.

DFW HOYA

Syracuse advanced past the quarterfinals in the Big East Tournament 24 times between 1980 and 2013.

It has not advanced past the quarterfinals in the ACC Tournament play since joining that conference and its cumulative record is 2-10.

The Sultan

Quote from: TallTitan34 on August 24, 2024, 01:06:54 PM
Zero interest in Gonzaga.

Only replace if you can get Duke, Wake, Syracuse, etc when the ACC eventually falls apart which it will.

I agree the ACC will fall apart. But I doubt these schools drop football.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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